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[birds chirp]
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[David] How good would it be
to hang out with these guys.
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[chuckles]
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These are three of my friends.
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"Hey, hey,
you're not a real bird."
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"I'm a real bird."
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"You're not a real bird!"
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"I'm a real bird."
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"You're a really
weird-looking bird."
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"But at least I'm a real bird.
You're not even a real bird."
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"You're not even
a real... bird."
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"But you're the
weirdest-looking bird"
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"I've ever seen."
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"What do you think?"
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"Oh, if I know one thing,
I'm very handsome."
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That's actually how I think
when I paint! It is!
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Underneath, you know, people
say this really serious shit.
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That's actually what I think.
Yeah.
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I've always thought,
especially when I was younger
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at school and stuff
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and you're being presented with
what the status quo is,
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I've always thought
there's gotta be a better way.
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You know, like,
I'll be talking to someone
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and they'll say,
"What are you?"
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I say, "Artist." And they go...
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"Oh, you guys are weird."
And I go, "Fuck off."
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[rock'n'roll instrumental plays]
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I know nobody like David.
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It's like you can't help
but be drawn to just...
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Just to listen
and experience David.
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All you have to do is ask him
one question and, well,
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you're there for a few hours,
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and you'll go on a ride with
him.
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At the end of the three hours,
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you won't know the answer to the
question
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but, oh, my God, you would've
laughed, you may have cried.
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You might be completely shocked
or overwhelmed
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and you probably learnt
a shit load of stuff
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along the way.
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He's a complete free spirit
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and he'll roll in whatever
direction he wants.
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If it pleases you or it doesn't,
he doesn't really care.
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How David Bromley is not a
member of a rock'n'roll band,
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I think, is one of life's
great mysteries and tragedies
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because he's far more
rock'n'roll
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than most of the people
I know in rock'n'roll bands.
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He's a creative genius.
He's a lunatic.
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He's mad as a cut snake.
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Exterminate!
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He's a Peter Pan
of the art world,
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and still sees the world
like a kid.
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It's pretty hard to categorise
David in a few words
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'cause he's everywhere.
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Whether it's on a cup,
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in a shopping centre or a
beautiful painting
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or a sculpture,
it can only be a Bromley.
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He's one of these people who's
made art accessible to everyone.
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He wants to be like The Beatles.
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He wants everyone to have
one of his greatest hits.
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Everyone wants a Bromley.
Everyone wants a Bromley.
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[music continues]
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There's a word
that I'm so often called,
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you know,
being sort of commercial.
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Like, fuck yeah.
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David Bromley should look out
because being that super popular
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is not great necessarily
for a long-term reputation.
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He produces likeable images.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah,
some more David Bromley.
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The weakness is
there's nothing more to it.
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I think his work is just
purely decorative, it really is.
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I think you go...
And then you walk on.
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A lot of mud
has been thrown at him
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but he's not gonna change,
is he?
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I disagree fundamentally
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with much of what is written
critically about him
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'cause I think that David
has become iconic.
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[laughter]
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[Dialogue unintelligible]
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[distant bird calls]
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This is to make me...
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This is to
make me I wouldn't say normal,
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but this is to
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I have different parts
of my body.
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I just took the one
for my stomach.
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That's the one for my brain,
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and I actually forget what this
one's for.
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-[Yuge] Cholesterol, is it?
-Maybe cholesterol, yeah.
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Is the good stuff.
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Gigi Hadid and Zayn Malik
are expecting a baby.
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How delightful.
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When I met Yuge at first,
once we started to really gel
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and make a commitment
to each other,
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you know, sharing a life
and build a life together,
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my complete anxiety
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and sense of, um, you know,
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the sheer pain that I feel
inside
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or the phobias or the fears
or the anxieties or whatever,
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I know that I would say Yuge's
name over and over in my mind
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as a sort of form of ballast.
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So, it's sort of, like,
I would mention her name
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as a way of
keeping myself sane.
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You know, it's OK,
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the world completely and utterly
blows my mind
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and I have trouble
not skidding off the tracks
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because, you know,
I just find everything so big.
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Alright, now, guys, I might
show you where I'm working.
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Obviously, out there, there,
there, there.
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There, there, there,
there, there.
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Ooh!
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These have worked out well.
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[Yuge] Yeah, they're fun
as can be.
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Fun as can be.
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David doesn't like wasting
a single minute
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of productive time.
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If he's in the studio, he's in
the studio and he's painting.
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That's probably the problem.
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You know, people think that
he's...
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He's just banging things out
but it's not. He just can't...
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Standing still is not an option.
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[rock'n'roll track plays]
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David Bromley just seems
to have over-produced
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and there doesn't seem
to be any editing to it.
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It's not just the art,
I've got the coffee table,
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I've got coasters,
I've got mugs.
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I've got pillows.
I've got throws. I have boxes.
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Commercial pop art.
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That's where he sits
in the art scene,
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as a highly marketable,
highly successful pop artist.
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I mean, he's achieved a sort of
Warhol level of ubiquity
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and that, I think, in many ways,
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has been both his triumph
and his downfall.
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Some critics said as a
derogatory thing, you know,
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"Bromleys are only good for
holiday houses
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and children's bedrooms."
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Oh, two of my favourite places.
The funnest places in the world.
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♪ And it's running
like a freight train ♪♪
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People buy it
to decorate their homes
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because it's very recognisable.
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Their friends will come over,
instantly go,
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"Oh, that's a David Bromley."
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[horn toots]
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The biggest characteristic of
an upper-middle class family
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in Australia
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is not a Range Rover,
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it's not kids
at private schools,
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it's not a beach house,
it is this.
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I swear David Bromley
runs this town.
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♪ Won't sleep tonight ♪
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[David] When I first started
making art, you know,
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decorative, bad word,
nostalgic, bad word,
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happiness, bad word,
craft.
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And I just took those
and built a career.
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[song continues]
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If you're OK with portraits of
women naked from the waist up,
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if you're OK with little kids
'50s style
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or animals or whatever,
the art's for you.
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Some people find it easy
to dismiss his work
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as something pretty simplistic.
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It's figurative but there's
no great depth to it.
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I furiously disagree with that.
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It's extraordinarily
sophisticated like the man is.
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He's multi-layered,
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and beware the silly person who
takes him lightly
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because there's
a formidable intellect
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behind those friendly eyes.
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It just looks like
it's been photographed,
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traced or stencilled.
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There's no poetry to his work.
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We do have people who
seem to leave the house
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with the intention of
coming into the gallery
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to tell us that they fuckin'
hate David Bromley's work.
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They're upset because, like,
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how can he be good,
do what he does,
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seemingly easily,
and be rewarded for that?
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I don't know, ask him.
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Oh, this is so exciting. Oh!
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John! Steamroller!
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Hey, baby,
we're gonna steamroll.
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-Awesome, I'm coming.
-Cool.
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I haven't been waiting days
for this,
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I've been waiting
my whole life for this.
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Fuckin' great.
I love smashed-up shit.
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[laughter, David yells
in wild voice]
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If I was you, I'd ask as well.
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They're on a wooden frame,
of course, stapled on,
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and I put two pack on them.
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That's just smashed all the
frames, buckled all up.
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And just the other day when I
knew this was coming, I thought,
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"Fuck, I'll flatten you out,
you bastard."
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[David chuckles]
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This has done something,
I reckon,
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but it's tearing all the edges
and stuff
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which personally I
think is fucking cool.
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Yuge, just when I think
I couldn't love you more.
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Do a burn-out on it, Yuge.
How cute does she look in that!
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Has that got something
underneath it?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, it's got something
underneath... oh!
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Get with the program, David.
Come on, baby!
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In the first couple of years
of our relationship,
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there was another Yuge.
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I'd reached a real milestone
in my own career as a lawyer,
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and I was doing well
and I really enjoyed it,
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but I wanted to take this
new direction,
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and, even when I started
my clothing label, you know,
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I was so desirous
to be fiercely independent.
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Oh, keep going, baby.
No, keep going.
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Fucking smash the shit
out of it.
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Yeah, keep going.
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In the very early days, I would
feel incredibly self-conscious
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with my place in David's world,
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and then it was like
this light-bulb moment
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maybe a year or so
down the track when I realised
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that I was in such a fortunate
position as a fashion designer
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to have one of the most
iconic artists in Australia
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just open his absolute world
to me.
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OK, bubba.
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And I thought, well,
let's cut the bullshit.
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Any fierce determination to be
independent.
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Why? You're married.
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You know,
you've got kids together.
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I'm so proud to be linked there.
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That's better!
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That sounds a little bit more
like action.
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David and I started opening
more galleries together.
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I felt more confident
in my voice
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and expressing certain ideas.
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And, yeah, we felt like a team.
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Is that the accelerator?
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That's slow throttle,
that's a bit more throttle.
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You're accelerating...
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Slow down, slow down! Pull it
back!
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[Yuge laughs]
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God, it is harder to drive,
isn't it?
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Whoa! Stop!
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Stop!
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Oh, my God!
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Yuge, why did you
let me in there?
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All my premonitions
came to reality.
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No, but I'm just dropping,
get it to be totally fucked up.
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You would be an idiot to think
that David stands alone.
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David only functions because of
the unit that they have.
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Together, that crazy madness
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that is their mental life and
love,
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you feel the bubble of energy
that is the love
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that runs between
David and Yuge.
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[both laugh]
248
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Her influence on him has been,
249
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yeah, I think it's
been profound.
250
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She's this incredible balance
for this man.
251
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She deserves some awards.
252
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I thought I did lots of skulls
253
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'cause I quite like the idea
254
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of a person's head turning into
a skull.
255
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David's brain is so fast and not
necessarily compartmentalised.
256
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Somebody like Yuge,
257
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who's able to make sense of
258
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large bits of very abstract
information,
259
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I mean, she's just invaluable.
260
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Just whack it on this.
261
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Um, shall we set up by the fire?
262
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Sounds perfect and I'll bring
the lighthouse over as well.
263
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Beautiful.
264
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[paint sloshing]
265
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I think I went through
that stage
266
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where I never wanted to paint
267
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another fucking lighthouse
in my life.
268
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But it's amazing how time
goes by and you go,
269
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"Oh, how good is this,
painting a lighthouse."
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They're just such
beautiful things.
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When I was younger,
I saw them as wonderful beacons
272
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to keep you off the rocks.
273
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I think, you know,
274
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I was so desperate to keep
myself off the rocks.
275
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You know, I think I found them
to be wonderfully poignant.
276
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My own adolescence
was quite horrific.
277
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You know, as I was changing
and my voice was breaking,
278
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so was my sanity
and it felt very much like
279
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I was falling through something.
280
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I had some, sort of, um,
schizophrenic happenings
281
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and some major phobias
282
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and stuff starting to develop,
283
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and I was just fuckin' on edge
the whole time.
284
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When I first started
having these problems,
285
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I mean, I just thought
I was fucked.
286
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I mean, I'd be running from,
287
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like, telegraph pole to
telegraph pole
288
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because I couldn't stand,
you know, in one place
289
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because I thought I was gonna
get sucked into the vortex
290
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of the atmosphere.
291
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I just remember my hands
just sweating
292
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'cause I'd look up at the sky
293
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and the infiniteness of it
and stuff,
294
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and it'd just totally
and utterly freak me out.
295
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You know, and I'd have dreams
at night
296
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of being stuck
between two wires,
297
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between two buildings,
298
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and then I'd put myself
into a position
299
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where I'd be walking along the
beach
300
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with a friend
and suddenly realise
301
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that I'm four kilometres away
from the car,
302
00:16:51,816 --> 00:16:54,278
and I'm too embarrassed
to tell my friend.
303
00:16:54,318 --> 00:16:57,488
How do you tell them
in 15 seconds
304
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that you've got this thing
305
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that you don't even know
what it is
306
00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:02,203
but I'd need to go
and jump in the water
307
00:17:02,243 --> 00:17:04,831
because I felt like
I was falling off the earth.
308
00:17:04,871 --> 00:17:08,292
♪ Yeah, I've been waiting
for this day to come ♪
309
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♪ For a long, long time ♪♪
310
00:17:11,335 --> 00:17:13,756
♪ Yeah, I'm gonna
break these chains ♪
311
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♪ And feel the
sweet sunshine ♪♪
312
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And that's why I started
drinking so much
313
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because, you know,
314
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if I had a certain amount
to drink,
315
00:17:21,929 --> 00:17:25,977
it would dispel some of these
problems.
316
00:17:26,017 --> 00:17:27,436
But, I mean, I got to the stage
317
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where I was comfortable
for about a minute
318
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and then I'd be unconscious.
319
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I mean, if I acted like how
I felt inside, you know,
320
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I'd be like, "Yeah, yeah, argh!"
321
00:17:41,824 --> 00:17:46,038
It sheerly terrified me
322
00:17:46,078 --> 00:17:50,334
of how fricking abnormal I felt.
323
00:17:50,374 --> 00:17:55,422
Let alone what that did
to people around me
324
00:17:55,462 --> 00:18:00,176
who considered it
an incredible flaw.
325
00:18:00,635 --> 00:18:03,054
You feel like saying, well
326
00:18:03,888 --> 00:18:05,224
please don't
327
00:18:05,264 --> 00:18:09,436
please, you know,
please hang around...
328
00:18:09,476 --> 00:18:13,983
Please hang around for the
things that I am, you know?
329
00:18:14,023 --> 00:18:16,901
♪ This other mind ♪♪
330
00:18:18,903 --> 00:18:22,324
I fell down a pothole
that I couldn't get out of
331
00:18:22,364 --> 00:18:24,366
for about five years.
332
00:18:24,491 --> 00:18:27,329
I worked out that
I had two things to do.
333
00:18:27,369 --> 00:18:31,250
One was to be active
and to exercise.
334
00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:35,337
And the other one was
to be purposeful, find a career,
335
00:18:35,377 --> 00:18:40,301
totally and utterly commit
to it, be addicted to it.
336
00:18:40,341 --> 00:18:42,178
♪ Yeah, I'm gonna
break these chains ♪♪
337
00:18:42,218 --> 00:18:46,639
♪ And feel the sweet
sunshine ♪♪
338
00:18:46,889 --> 00:18:47,767
I was at a market one day
339
00:18:47,807 --> 00:18:51,478
and there was a woman standing
there with her pottery.
340
00:18:51,518 --> 00:18:55,815
I said to this woman,
"How do you be a potter?"
341
00:18:56,023 --> 00:18:56,734
"Can I do classes?"
342
00:18:56,774 --> 00:18:58,527
And she said, "Well, we're full
and you gotta wait."
343
00:18:58,567 --> 00:19:04,158
It was just like, "No. No.
No, no, no, I'm doin' it now."
344
00:19:04,198 --> 00:19:07,870
I'm committed to something
and this is what it's gonna be
345
00:19:07,910 --> 00:19:10,372
and, you know, I used to
work in there and stuff.
346
00:19:10,412 --> 00:19:15,252
Fuck, man, I felt like...
I felt just incredible.
347
00:19:15,292 --> 00:19:18,756
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪♪
348
00:19:18,796 --> 00:19:19,674
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
349
00:19:19,714 --> 00:19:23,510
I went into a local art show
to show my pottery.
350
00:19:23,550 --> 00:19:25,930
I put some paintings in as well
and, anyway,
351
00:19:25,970 --> 00:19:30,392
I turned up there and they said,
"Oh, we wanted to talk to you."
352
00:19:30,432 --> 00:19:33,310
"We'd like to give you
an exhibition."
353
00:19:33,602 --> 00:19:35,064
I walked over to my pottery
354
00:19:35,104 --> 00:19:37,483
and they said, "Oh, is that your
stuff there?"
355
00:19:37,523 --> 00:19:40,903
And I thought, "Oh, no,
they've got the wrong dude."
356
00:19:40,943 --> 00:19:42,780
And they said,
"What about these paintings?"
357
00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:46,242
And I'm like,
"Oh, yeah, they're mine too."
358
00:19:46,282 --> 00:19:47,994
And they're like,
"So, are you a painter?"
359
00:19:48,034 --> 00:19:50,872
And I'm
like, "Yeah, I'm a painter."
360
00:19:50,912 --> 00:19:53,457
And I just said to myself,
"I'm a fuckin' painter."
361
00:19:53,497 --> 00:19:56,002
"I'm a painter, I'm a painter,
I'm a painter."
362
00:19:56,042 --> 00:19:56,919
Got rid of the kiln
363
00:19:56,959 --> 00:20:01,423
and I just painted, like,
15, 18 hours a day.
364
00:20:01,463 --> 00:20:05,301
[rock'n'roll instrumental plays]
365
00:20:15,937 --> 00:20:17,732
Some of the greatest joys
in my life
366
00:20:17,772 --> 00:20:23,485
were the beginnings of my
art career when I had nothing.
367
00:20:23,610 --> 00:20:27,239
[music continues]
368
00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:30,912
People say, you know,
369
00:20:30,952 --> 00:20:32,747
"Gee, the texture on
your painting's interesting."
370
00:20:32,787 --> 00:20:36,208
Well, I started that off by,
when I finished an exhibition,
371
00:20:36,248 --> 00:20:37,043
I couldn't afford new canvases
372
00:20:37,083 --> 00:20:41,172
so I'd paint over all the
others, sometimes four times.
373
00:20:41,212 --> 00:20:42,714
I didn't have the money.
374
00:20:42,755 --> 00:20:43,674
If I couldn't afford paint,
375
00:20:43,714 --> 00:20:46,885
I'd go down the beach and I'd
find old bits of plastic
376
00:20:46,925 --> 00:20:47,636
and stuff like that,
377
00:20:47,676 --> 00:20:51,390
and I didn't give a shit whether
galleries liked them or not.
378
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:53,100
'Cause they liked them
because they were selling
379
00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:58,604
and, you know, from where I'd
come from, everything was good.
380
00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:05,945
[quiet jazz music playing]
381
00:21:08,114 --> 00:21:12,078
So, can you just explain where
you get your ideas from,
382
00:21:12,118 --> 00:21:13,162
you know, as an artist?
383
00:21:13,202 --> 00:21:17,249
My work has just about always
from the beginning
384
00:21:17,289 --> 00:21:19,210
had figures in it.
385
00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:21,628
I've always been
fairly concerned with
386
00:21:21,668 --> 00:21:23,672
interacting people in my work
387
00:21:23,712 --> 00:21:27,343
'cause, to me, it's the thing
that fascinates me most in life
388
00:21:27,383 --> 00:21:30,679
is how we all get on,
how we all interact.
389
00:21:30,719 --> 00:21:34,141
So, I try and portray a sort of,
like, a journey
390
00:21:34,181 --> 00:21:36,435
and that's where
the lighthouse comes in
391
00:21:36,475 --> 00:21:38,270
and so showing direction,
392
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:40,522
all the children
working together
393
00:21:40,562 --> 00:21:43,067
to try and get
from A to B, and not just,
394
00:21:43,107 --> 00:21:45,527
like, physically from one place
to the other
395
00:21:45,567 --> 00:21:47,696
but I suppose
emotionally as well.
396
00:21:47,736 --> 00:21:48,739
And so I suppose he's,
sort of...
397
00:21:48,779 --> 00:21:51,909
You could say, well, you know,
he wants to get back to shore
398
00:21:51,949 --> 00:21:55,121
or you could say he's also
finding it really hard
399
00:21:55,161 --> 00:21:55,954
at that point in his life
400
00:21:55,994 --> 00:21:58,499
and he's trying to reach out
for understanding.
401
00:21:58,539 --> 00:21:59,750
But, between, you know,
the two of them
402
00:21:59,790 --> 00:22:02,753
they've got this little raft
so maybe that's the vehicle
403
00:22:02,793 --> 00:22:04,881
that gets them to, you know,
404
00:22:04,921 --> 00:22:07,965
like, a bigger life or a better
life.
405
00:22:08,049 --> 00:22:10,011
I think there was a time
about 15 years ago
406
00:22:10,051 --> 00:22:13,264
when he was considered to be an
up and comer, you know, like...
407
00:22:13,304 --> 00:22:14,974
He had a breakthrough, you know,
408
00:22:15,014 --> 00:22:16,975
had a few successful
exhibitions.
409
00:22:17,015 --> 00:22:20,312
The work had an instant
visual appeal.
410
00:22:20,352 --> 00:22:24,901
One of his nudes went for
over $50,000 at an auction.
411
00:22:24,941 --> 00:22:28,112
He said that wasn't
making him happy.
412
00:22:28,152 --> 00:22:29,071
David would say,
413
00:22:29,111 --> 00:22:31,073
"You look back at all of my
414
00:22:31,113 --> 00:22:33,075
emails with my
past art dealers,"
415
00:22:33,115 --> 00:22:36,954
"you will not find
a single creative conversation."
416
00:22:36,994 --> 00:22:38,789
I knew him
when he was represented
417
00:22:38,829 --> 00:22:41,708
by one of the great galleries
in Sydney
418
00:22:41,748 --> 00:22:44,420
and also one of the
great galleries in Melbourne.
419
00:22:44,460 --> 00:22:47,631
He was then, when he had
those representations,
420
00:22:47,671 --> 00:22:50,009
a very respected
and respectable artist,
421
00:22:50,049 --> 00:22:54,680
but he felt constrained
by just having to produce,
422
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,098
say, ten or 12 works a year.
423
00:22:56,138 --> 00:23:03,064
His need to produce more and to
show more of what was inside him
424
00:23:03,104 --> 00:23:04,648
was just too great.
425
00:23:04,688 --> 00:23:06,442
He wanted to make pottery again
426
00:23:06,482 --> 00:23:09,320
and he wanted to create bags or
things,
427
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,656
and it was poo-pooed
by so many of his gallerists.
428
00:23:12,696 --> 00:23:14,825
"Like, no-one's going to take
you seriously"
429
00:23:14,865 --> 00:23:18,079
"because that's just stupid."
430
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,375
He decided that that wasn't
the arena he wanted to be in
431
00:23:23,415 --> 00:23:27,421
and he got badly ousted from it.
432
00:23:27,461 --> 00:23:29,673
The curators never forgive you
433
00:23:29,713 --> 00:23:35,179
for moving outside the area
where they are the gatekeepers.
434
00:23:35,219 --> 00:23:38,056
If the artist
only sells exclusively
435
00:23:38,096 --> 00:23:41,018
via this particular dealer
or gallery,
436
00:23:41,058 --> 00:23:44,646
there is a certain group of
people that benefits from it
437
00:23:44,686 --> 00:23:45,231
like the people...
438
00:23:45,271 --> 00:23:49,360
The big collections and
obviously the dealers as well.
439
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,319
You have a commercial gallery
440
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,656
and they'll take 50%, sometimes
60% of the exhibition.
441
00:23:54,696 --> 00:23:56,158
Then you'll have to pay
tax after that.
442
00:23:56,198 --> 00:23:58,995
You'll have to pay
all your materials, your rent.
443
00:23:59,035 --> 00:24:00,704
Even if you were
very successful,
444
00:24:00,744 --> 00:24:02,331
you're not left with much.
445
00:24:02,371 --> 00:24:04,625
Bromley in some ways is a genius
446
00:24:04,665 --> 00:24:05,834
'cause he sort of looked at it
and go,
447
00:24:05,874 --> 00:24:08,254
"Well, I can go
beyond that relationship
448
00:24:08,294 --> 00:24:10,381
"and sell directly
to the market,"
449
00:24:10,421 --> 00:24:13,467
"just push all of those
guys out of the way."
450
00:24:13,507 --> 00:24:15,886
But, you know,
it comes with a downside.
451
00:24:15,926 --> 00:24:18,639
Financially, people say
that it's not a good thing
452
00:24:18,679 --> 00:24:19,098
to over-produce
453
00:24:19,138 --> 00:24:24,020
because it devalues any of the
individual pieces you've made
454
00:24:24,060 --> 00:24:25,646
because there's so many of them.
455
00:24:25,686 --> 00:24:28,024
But I think where Bromley sits
in all of that
456
00:24:28,064 --> 00:24:30,901
is probably what makes him
so powerful.
457
00:24:30,941 --> 00:24:33,029
I mean, he doesn't seem to be
458
00:24:33,069 --> 00:24:35,906
just making stuff in a
warehouse.
459
00:24:35,946 --> 00:24:38,450
He's kind of in
all of these places.
460
00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:40,076
[tram bell dings]
461
00:24:41,368 --> 00:24:43,372
[David] Mixey, mixey, mixey!
462
00:24:43,412 --> 00:24:49,211
We are creating
a Bromley Sushi Sushi store.
463
00:24:49,251 --> 00:24:54,216
Yeah, that's it, yeah.
What are we doing here?
464
00:24:54,256 --> 00:24:55,301
Where are we?
465
00:24:55,341 --> 00:24:57,678
So, the little characters
we invented
466
00:24:57,718 --> 00:25:03,349
about, I don't know,
three months ago, and, uh
467
00:25:04,225 --> 00:25:05,769
we love them now.
468
00:25:05,809 --> 00:25:08,605
Now they've become
very dear to us.
469
00:25:08,645 --> 00:25:13,777
Now we see them as family,
almost real.
470
00:25:13,817 --> 00:25:16,738
Come on, little man,
out you come.
471
00:25:16,778 --> 00:25:18,324
"No, I want to stay in here!"
472
00:25:18,364 --> 00:25:22,661
Hey, Dibby, do you want Benny to
bash out a cool quote up there?
473
00:25:22,701 --> 00:25:27,583
Be pretty fun to sit
and read something really cool.
474
00:25:27,623 --> 00:25:28,917
Yeah, I just need a word.
475
00:25:28,957 --> 00:25:32,171
-Just go Japanese proverb.
-OK, OK.
476
00:25:32,211 --> 00:25:35,674
It is the man who drinks
the first bottle of sake,
477
00:25:35,714 --> 00:25:37,676
then the second bottle
drinks the first
478
00:25:37,716 --> 00:25:41,222
and finally it is the sake
that drinks the man.
479
00:25:41,262 --> 00:25:45,101
That's how I gave up smoking.
American Indian...
480
00:25:45,141 --> 00:25:47,728
American Indians saying,
481
00:25:47,768 --> 00:25:50,231
first, you will
smoke the cigarette,
482
00:25:50,271 --> 00:25:52,566
then the
cigarette will smoke you.
483
00:25:52,606 --> 00:25:54,901
If the fish
is kind to the water,
484
00:25:54,941 --> 00:25:57,279
the water
will be kind to the fish.
485
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,198
I think, when you're
sitting there eating it,
486
00:25:59,238 --> 00:26:02,743
that's probably, like,
all thrown out the window.
487
00:26:02,783 --> 00:26:04,870
Give a man a fish
and he'll eat for a day.
488
00:26:04,910 --> 00:26:07,164
-Teach a man to fish...
-This is your idea.
489
00:26:07,204 --> 00:26:10,292
-Come on. Give it to me.
-Oh, my gosh, sorry.
490
00:26:10,332 --> 00:26:14,171
-OK, I'm taking over this...
-Quote...
491
00:26:14,211 --> 00:26:15,922
-Quote concept.
-OK, OK.
492
00:26:15,962 --> 00:26:19,260
[laughs] I'm reading
Keith Richards quotes.
493
00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:24,221
The idea of retiring is like
killing yourself. I love that.
494
00:26:24,888 --> 00:26:26,433
Everyone talks about rock
these days.
495
00:26:26,473 --> 00:26:29,643
The problem is
they forget about the roll.
496
00:26:30,018 --> 00:26:31,605
The sushi roll. Right?
497
00:26:31,645 --> 00:26:35,526
What about "Everything you can
imagine is real"?
498
00:26:35,566 --> 00:26:37,861
I love that quote.
Is that Van Gogh?
499
00:26:37,901 --> 00:26:39,988
-Picasso.
-Picasso, yeah.
500
00:26:40,028 --> 00:26:40,989
Beautiful.
501
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:43,950
Everything you can imagine
is real.
502
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:48,914
Maybe butterflies on the right,
then head over there,
503
00:26:48,954 --> 00:26:51,915
and then expand them
the other way.
504
00:26:52,458 --> 00:26:54,378
People say,
"Oh, he's so commercial."
505
00:26:54,418 --> 00:26:56,213
And I just think,
"But what does that mean?"
506
00:26:56,253 --> 00:27:00,384
You know, like, how do you
come to that as a criticism
507
00:27:00,424 --> 00:27:01,259
or a judgement?
508
00:27:01,299 --> 00:27:04,054
Do you have to go out
and buy your paints? Yes.
509
00:27:04,094 --> 00:27:06,473
Do you have to
buy your canvases? Yes.
510
00:27:06,513 --> 00:27:07,183
You need a studio.
511
00:27:07,223 --> 00:27:08,934
You either own it or you rent
it.
512
00:27:08,974 --> 00:27:11,685
It's all a commercial process.
513
00:27:15,439 --> 00:27:18,276
It's often seen as,
if you're too commercial,
514
00:27:18,316 --> 00:27:21,322
if you print your work
on tea towels,
515
00:27:21,362 --> 00:27:23,574
then it's devaluing it
516
00:27:23,614 --> 00:27:28,078
but it's not really
devaluing the work.
517
00:27:28,118 --> 00:27:29,746
It's devaluing pieces
518
00:27:29,786 --> 00:27:33,790
that a bunch of rich collectors
have bought.
519
00:27:33,915 --> 00:27:37,171
One day, I was in the kitchen
and I looked down at my Vegemite
520
00:27:37,211 --> 00:27:39,255
and it had his name on it.
521
00:27:39,713 --> 00:27:41,049
And then I was in the chemist
522
00:27:41,089 --> 00:27:45,135
and I saw that he has an eau de
cologne collection.
523
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,308
[David] The process of
doing something like this
524
00:27:49,348 --> 00:27:49,933
is fantastic.
525
00:27:49,973 --> 00:27:52,143
I usually go back
to my core element
526
00:27:52,184 --> 00:27:54,730
of just a very simple desire
527
00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:59,526
to see my work
in unexpected situations.
528
00:27:59,566 --> 00:28:01,528
Not for a minute do I think
529
00:28:01,568 --> 00:28:05,323
there's a way that you should
find art.
530
00:28:05,363 --> 00:28:08,742
You can find art
where you find art.
531
00:28:13,371 --> 00:28:15,083
He's talking to
a bigger audience
532
00:28:15,123 --> 00:28:17,461
than the art world
could ever communicate with,
533
00:28:17,501 --> 00:28:21,172
and introduced so many
more people to the art world.
534
00:28:21,213 --> 00:28:23,341
Like, I'm paintin'
for everybody.
535
00:28:23,381 --> 00:28:24,885
I want everybody
to access a bit.
536
00:28:24,925 --> 00:28:29,390
I'm makin' stuff for people
to just aesthetically enjoy it.
537
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:33,977
Shouldn't David as an artist
be available to everybody?
538
00:28:34,017 --> 00:28:35,145
That's what he did.
539
00:28:35,185 --> 00:28:38,440
And, in that, he's grown big.
540
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,193
David can be polarising,
and mainly because of
541
00:28:42,234 --> 00:28:45,656
the commercial way
in which his practice
542
00:28:45,696 --> 00:28:47,115
and businesses have evolved.
543
00:28:47,155 --> 00:28:51,662
I don't think that David
really gives a fuck, actually.
544
00:28:51,702 --> 00:28:55,789
David would still make art
if no-one was buying it.
545
00:28:55,997 --> 00:28:58,959
[can whooshing]
546
00:29:02,963 --> 00:29:04,800
I just love, before I start,
547
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,177
getting a background that is
interesting.
548
00:29:14,391 --> 00:29:15,269
[laughing]
549
00:29:15,309 --> 00:29:18,146
I remember when
I first started seeing David,
550
00:29:18,186 --> 00:29:19,898
which was over nine years ago,
551
00:29:19,938 --> 00:29:24,361
and I'd be in the studio
watching him prep his canvases.
552
00:29:24,401 --> 00:29:27,904
[rock'n'roll instrumental plays]
553
00:29:31,408 --> 00:29:33,411
He starts off
with a white canvas,
554
00:29:33,451 --> 00:29:35,080
then he preps it black.
555
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,706
Then, he does, like,
556
00:29:35,746 --> 00:29:37,624
three layers of
different-coloured whites
557
00:29:37,664 --> 00:29:41,503
and then, on top of that,
he starts prepping his colours.
558
00:29:41,543 --> 00:29:42,546
Let's try some silver.
559
00:29:42,586 --> 00:29:48,176
Actually, I think it's fun
using colours that aren't great.
560
00:29:48,216 --> 00:29:53,597
Sometimes, the less control
you have, the better.
561
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600
-If you think, you stink.
-Mm-hm.
562
00:29:57,017 --> 00:29:58,436
[song continues]
563
00:29:58,476 --> 00:30:02,483
♪ In my house
you're on your own ♪
564
00:30:02,523 --> 00:30:05,193
From time to time, I'll have
clients who get an artwork
565
00:30:05,233 --> 00:30:07,571
and say,
"Oh, it's got a big blob on it."
566
00:30:07,611 --> 00:30:09,280
And I'm like, "Are you insane?
567
00:30:09,321 --> 00:30:12,451
The blobs are the best bit,
that's when he's having fun."
568
00:30:12,491 --> 00:30:20,041
There's blobs, cracks in the
paint, weird marks and things,
569
00:30:20,081 --> 00:30:22,210
lots of drips around the side,
570
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:25,088
you know, then he's had, like,
heaps of fun.
571
00:30:25,128 --> 00:30:26,882
I don't think anyone
has seen joy
572
00:30:26,922 --> 00:30:30,886
until you've seen
David puncture a spray can
573
00:30:30,926 --> 00:30:33,511
and just spray it everywhere.
574
00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:42,105
I think some of the best work
of Bromley's
575
00:30:42,145 --> 00:30:45,776
is where there's elements
of abstraction
576
00:30:45,816 --> 00:30:47,193
and wildness and mess.
577
00:30:47,233 --> 00:30:49,446
I think that's
where it's exciting.
578
00:30:49,486 --> 00:30:52,533
He's moved into, like,
using ground spray, spray paint,
579
00:30:52,573 --> 00:30:55,786
and just smashing
huge fields of colours.
580
00:30:55,826 --> 00:30:59,873
You know, butterflies,
you know, perfect.
581
00:30:59,913 --> 00:31:01,458
Bit of
negative space, perfect.
582
00:31:01,498 --> 00:31:05,126
Few drips through a butterfly,
perfect.
583
00:31:06,086 --> 00:31:07,172
Doing layers isn't so profound
584
00:31:07,212 --> 00:31:10,091
but to have the balls to paint
almost illustrative
585
00:31:10,131 --> 00:31:12,886
on top of that is something,
you know,
586
00:31:12,926 --> 00:31:13,554
not a lot of people have.
587
00:31:13,594 --> 00:31:17,766
So, you've already got something
going on that's quite powerful.
588
00:31:17,806 --> 00:31:18,975
Then, you do this other layer
589
00:31:19,015 --> 00:31:22,813
because you can and then,
you know, you've got a Bromley.
590
00:31:22,853 --> 00:31:25,065
You know, like,
the figurative part
591
00:31:25,105 --> 00:31:27,233
is the dance with the abstract.
592
00:31:27,273 --> 00:31:31,237
You know, what amount
of the underneath stays,
593
00:31:31,277 --> 00:31:32,030
I still don't know.
594
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:37,411
Sometimes, you do so little
and it just seems to work.
595
00:31:37,451 --> 00:31:39,955
In practice,
it's working in negatives
596
00:31:39,995 --> 00:31:40,538
so the abstract
597
00:31:40,578 --> 00:31:44,710
and the free, vibrant work
becomes the foreground.
598
00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:47,585
[rock'n'roll track plays]
599
00:31:55,343 --> 00:31:59,766
I mean, I didn't realise
exactly how popular his work was
600
00:31:59,806 --> 00:32:03,437
until I visited some friends
in their house in London,
601
00:32:03,477 --> 00:32:06,314
and there was a Bromley nude
in the lounge room.
602
00:32:06,354 --> 00:32:08,233
I was like, "Whoa."
603
00:32:08,273 --> 00:32:10,193
And they were saying,
"We've got a David Bromley.
604
00:32:10,233 --> 00:32:12,112
Isn't he a really well-known
Australian artist?"
605
00:32:12,152 --> 00:32:15,699
And I was like, "Yeah, I guess
he is but, you know..."
606
00:32:15,739 --> 00:32:19,410
A bit like putting Pro Hart or
Ken Done or someone in there
607
00:32:19,451 --> 00:32:23,206
and saying, "I believe he's your
leading contemporary artist."
608
00:32:23,246 --> 00:32:26,042
If you talk about someone like
Ken Done in the '80s
609
00:32:26,082 --> 00:32:26,710
who was everywhere,
610
00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:28,586
he was known
for particular types of work
611
00:32:28,626 --> 00:32:29,630
and people might have reactions
to that
612
00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:33,884
and say, "It was everywhere
and that makes it bad somehow."
613
00:32:33,924 --> 00:32:35,761
I don't particularly like
pop art.
614
00:32:35,801 --> 00:32:37,511
I think it's, um
615
00:32:38,804 --> 00:32:40,140
it's shallow, really.
616
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,643
Doesn't really leave you
thinking about anything.
617
00:32:42,683 --> 00:32:44,520
It's just...it's there.
618
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,898
With the exception to
Andy Warhol who nailed it.
619
00:32:47,938 --> 00:32:49,607
He did it really well,
didn't he?
620
00:32:49,647 --> 00:32:53,862
There are many parallels
between Bromley and Warhol
621
00:32:53,902 --> 00:32:57,240
because mass production
and commodification
622
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,410
are two key identifiers
of pop art.
623
00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:02,412
Pop art is art for the people.
624
00:33:02,452 --> 00:33:06,082
It's inescapable not to compare
what he's doing
625
00:33:06,122 --> 00:33:06,667
with Andy Warhol.
626
00:33:06,707 --> 00:33:11,672
He's got the same image over
and over the course of years
627
00:33:11,712 --> 00:33:13,381
and so did Andy Warhol.
628
00:33:13,421 --> 00:33:18,428
He returned all the time
to his favourite images.
629
00:33:18,468 --> 00:33:21,264
And that was half the
fascination of that artist
630
00:33:21,304 --> 00:33:24,893
and it's half the fascination
for me of David.
631
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:27,938
Yeah, there haven't been many
artists in Australia
632
00:33:27,978 --> 00:33:30,481
who've managed
to sort of emulate
633
00:33:30,522 --> 00:33:32,984
the kind of
art pop culture crossover
634
00:33:33,024 --> 00:33:38,073
that, historically, people like
Andy Warhol was able to achieve.
635
00:33:38,113 --> 00:33:43,494
And everyone who's come along
and has tried to do that,
636
00:33:43,535 --> 00:33:47,288
in my view, has always ended up
looking a bit cheap.
637
00:33:48,289 --> 00:33:51,837
You know, my idea
of being an artist
638
00:33:51,877 --> 00:33:53,547
is to do what the fuck you want
639
00:33:53,587 --> 00:33:54,923
when the fuck you want to do it,
640
00:33:54,963 --> 00:33:58,927
and, you know,
that includes wanting to do it.
641
00:33:58,967 --> 00:34:01,221
So you need the paint,
you need the materials.
642
00:34:01,261 --> 00:34:01,930
Getting paid for it.
643
00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:03,389
You want the whole
sort of thing.
644
00:34:03,429 --> 00:34:06,267
Do I make commercial decisions?
Fuck yeah.
645
00:34:06,307 --> 00:34:08,729
Some days, do I go in
and paint kids over the fence
646
00:34:08,769 --> 00:34:10,688
and I paint the nudes and stuff.
647
00:34:10,728 --> 00:34:15,110
I mean, doing my greatest hits,
it's still...
648
00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:18,279
Like, it's maybe not always
my favourite thing to do
649
00:34:18,319 --> 00:34:20,323
but it's still one of my
favourite things to do
650
00:34:20,363 --> 00:34:24,244
and, look, I think probably one
of the most important things
651
00:34:24,284 --> 00:34:26,371
is never, ever fuckin' stop.
652
00:34:26,411 --> 00:34:29,207
And that's why I've got
Bon Scott and Malcolm Young.
653
00:34:29,247 --> 00:34:33,962
I love the way Malcolm Young
spent 30-odd years of his life
654
00:34:34,002 --> 00:34:35,921
standing like this.
655
00:34:36,004 --> 00:34:37,215
[grunts]
656
00:34:37,255 --> 00:34:38,967
In one frickin' spot.
657
00:34:39,007 --> 00:34:42,720
A lot of people think that they
want to be an artist,
658
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,389
they'd like to be unknown,
659
00:34:44,429 --> 00:34:47,643
underground,
staunchly individual,
660
00:34:47,683 --> 00:34:53,106
against all types of recognition
but be wealthy and, you know,
661
00:34:53,146 --> 00:34:54,732
how does that work?
662
00:34:54,772 --> 00:34:57,861
What's wrong with working
to make a living?
663
00:34:57,901 --> 00:35:03,700
Like, why are we so different
to everybody else out there?
664
00:35:03,740 --> 00:35:04,367
Well, we're not.
665
00:35:04,407 --> 00:35:09,539
There is a, sort of, shame
around this idea of ambition,
666
00:35:09,579 --> 00:35:12,500
but I've always seen
financial freedom
667
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:16,211
as a way to
have creative freedom.
668
00:35:26,429 --> 00:35:28,765
Taco in hand.
669
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:35,023
I got this amazing glass finish
that you pour on
670
00:35:35,063 --> 00:35:36,024
and, after about two months,
671
00:35:36,064 --> 00:35:42,197
it wouldn't dry so we put them
on the roof for two years.
672
00:35:42,237 --> 00:35:45,659
It was so funny because John's
obviously been up on the roof
673
00:35:45,699 --> 00:35:46,451
and brought them down.
674
00:35:46,491 --> 00:35:49,620
And I've just walked in
and I've just thought,
675
00:35:49,661 --> 00:35:51,789
"Oh, my God, these..."
676
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:55,585
No, I didn't... I'd forgot,
and that was the idea.
677
00:35:55,625 --> 00:35:58,588
Wow, just, man,
I'm so happy with that,
678
00:35:58,628 --> 00:36:01,382
but I just walked in
and I was just sort of like,
679
00:36:01,422 --> 00:36:02,425
"Shit, am I dreaming?"
680
00:36:02,465 --> 00:36:06,803
The perfect painting.
Oh, shit, they're mine!
681
00:36:07,846 --> 00:36:13,436
There is a distinction between
the pieces that David creates
682
00:36:13,476 --> 00:36:15,271
because he knows
that the clients
683
00:36:15,311 --> 00:36:17,607
who are coming to the
gallery will want them,
684
00:36:17,647 --> 00:36:19,817
and then there are the pieces
that he creates
685
00:36:19,857 --> 00:36:23,653
because he's gonna have
heaps of fun doing it.
686
00:36:27,157 --> 00:36:31,621
Oh, now this stuff here,
it was a trucking guy I know
687
00:36:31,661 --> 00:36:35,666
and he used to have
a rodeo circus.
688
00:36:35,707 --> 00:36:36,209
I love circuses.
689
00:36:36,249 --> 00:36:41,504
This stuff here, I'll wrap
around masonite and paint on it.
690
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,220
Pretty good,
even if I do say so myself.
691
00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:50,056
There's a good 70%
of his art practice
692
00:36:50,096 --> 00:36:51,224
that people will never see,
693
00:36:51,264 --> 00:36:55,893
that he works away in the studio
and he experiments on.
694
00:36:57,103 --> 00:37:01,276
It never makes it out into
the market or the real world,
695
00:37:01,316 --> 00:37:05,153
but that's the side that
drives him as an artist.
696
00:37:09,407 --> 00:37:11,034
[paint sloshing]
697
00:37:16,206 --> 00:37:20,211
I have different relationships
with the different figures.
698
00:37:20,251 --> 00:37:24,424
I know the ones that are, like,
are truer to me.
699
00:37:24,464 --> 00:37:29,345
When I do the really idyllic
ones, you know, I feel...
700
00:37:29,385 --> 00:37:32,390
I feel definitely like
it's more of a fairy story
701
00:37:32,430 --> 00:37:34,684
and I'm really happy to do those
702
00:37:34,724 --> 00:37:37,270
because I think it's so nice
703
00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:41,316
to just feel nice sometimes,
you know?
704
00:37:41,356 --> 00:37:44,194
Cosy and the world's
a beautiful place,
705
00:37:44,234 --> 00:37:44,903
a bit like a dream.
706
00:37:44,943 --> 00:37:49,532
But, you know, when I paint
the boys smoking cigarettes
707
00:37:49,572 --> 00:37:50,200
and stuff like that,
708
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,743
I have more of an affinity
for them.
709
00:37:52,784 --> 00:37:56,122
Because that was more me
because I was a bit naughty
710
00:37:56,162 --> 00:38:02,335
and indulged in these things,
I caused myself problems.
711
00:38:02,502 --> 00:38:04,089
If I hadn't caused myself
those problems,
712
00:38:04,129 --> 00:38:06,757
I don't think my life
would be so interesting.
713
00:38:06,798 --> 00:38:11,346
But this guy here,
I don't know, I just...
714
00:38:11,386 --> 00:38:14,515
I like the fact he's in a...
715
00:38:14,555 --> 00:38:18,228
Where is he? He's in a den
of skulls and stuff,
716
00:38:18,268 --> 00:38:19,604
and yet he's comfortable.
717
00:38:19,644 --> 00:38:22,357
He's got his little bottle
which, in his mind,
718
00:38:22,397 --> 00:38:26,486
is going to be able to find,
you know, what is laying ahead.
719
00:38:26,526 --> 00:38:31,697
He's armed, in case any of them
come to life,
720
00:38:32,073 --> 00:38:32,993
and I'm...
721
00:38:33,033 --> 00:38:35,954
I don't know,
I don't think I was that kid.
722
00:38:35,994 --> 00:38:38,914
I don't think I ever felt that,
723
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,626
you know, it was all gonna be
OK,
724
00:38:41,666 --> 00:38:43,003
but I sort of love these guys
725
00:38:43,043 --> 00:38:47,340
because, I don't know, I think
they remind me a lot of my dad,
726
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:50,468
you know, where he believed that
727
00:38:50,508 --> 00:38:54,679
everything was sort of gonna be
OK.
728
00:38:56,848 --> 00:39:00,060
[gentle music plays]
729
00:39:04,564 --> 00:39:07,652
My dad held down a formal job,
730
00:39:07,692 --> 00:39:09,987
never took a day off in his
life,
731
00:39:10,027 --> 00:39:12,573
and worked in an office
to pay the bills
732
00:39:12,613 --> 00:39:15,743
and to look after us
and to bring us up.
733
00:39:15,783 --> 00:39:18,038
He didn't go on
any radical approach.
734
00:39:18,078 --> 00:39:20,290
I think he was quite
conservative in that way.
735
00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:24,334
Philosophically and in his mind
and in his own time...
736
00:39:24,459 --> 00:39:26,379
You know, I said to him,
737
00:39:26,419 --> 00:39:31,217
"I don't think
that work should be unpleasant
738
00:39:31,257 --> 00:39:33,887
and I don't think the people
that work with you,
739
00:39:33,927 --> 00:39:38,474
you know, necessarily
should be not of your kin."
740
00:39:38,514 --> 00:39:40,143
Etc, etc, etc.
741
00:39:40,183 --> 00:39:43,104
And Dad said, which was
scary for me, he said,
742
00:39:43,144 --> 00:39:47,107
"Well, I don't know
how that is achievable."
743
00:39:48,358 --> 00:39:50,570
"But you can give it a go."
744
00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:54,074
Man, that has just helped me
so much.
745
00:39:54,114 --> 00:39:57,077
And quite often in my life...
Like, that was it.
746
00:39:57,117 --> 00:39:59,162
Not, "Well, and you can do this
and you can do that."
747
00:39:59,202 --> 00:40:04,292
He didn't have any answers, but
he said, "Well, give it a go."
748
00:40:04,332 --> 00:40:08,544
But there were certainly plenty
of times in my life where
749
00:40:08,753 --> 00:40:12,926
someone would have a go at me
about my life choices.
750
00:40:12,966 --> 00:40:15,553
And I think,
"Well, my dad loves me."
751
00:40:15,593 --> 00:40:17,012
You know?
752
00:40:20,431 --> 00:40:22,308
That colour...
753
00:40:34,445 --> 00:40:38,533
From a young age,
I've always been a tip rat.
754
00:40:38,824 --> 00:40:39,410
You know, my...
755
00:40:39,450 --> 00:40:45,208
We used to have the
old Thebarton dump near home,
756
00:40:45,248 --> 00:40:49,337
and my brother would go down
there with an old pram
757
00:40:49,377 --> 00:40:50,088
that he found down there.
758
00:40:50,128 --> 00:40:53,216
Mate, we'd pull out old
motorbikes and get them going.
759
00:40:53,256 --> 00:40:56,469
I think probably one of the
funnest times down there
760
00:40:56,509 --> 00:40:59,096
was we pulled this motorbike
out of the tip
761
00:40:59,136 --> 00:41:03,643
and my brother, who could get
anything started, got it started
762
00:41:03,683 --> 00:41:06,604
and we were fangin' around
this paddock,
763
00:41:06,644 --> 00:41:09,815
and at the back of the paddock
764
00:41:09,855 --> 00:41:12,318
were the old corrugated iron
fences.
765
00:41:12,358 --> 00:41:15,112
And you suddenly saw
all these little heads
766
00:41:15,152 --> 00:41:16,322
peeking up over the fences,
767
00:41:16,362 --> 00:41:18,908
just like my kids
over the fence.
768
00:41:18,948 --> 00:41:21,327
And you see 'em
just running over.
769
00:41:21,367 --> 00:41:23,246
"Can I have a go?
Can I have a go?"
770
00:41:23,286 --> 00:41:24,330
So you're like, "Yeah, sure."
771
00:41:24,370 --> 00:41:26,374
And they go - rah!
Everyone's turning around.
772
00:41:26,414 --> 00:41:33,298
But my brother used to fill
the old pram up with metal
773
00:41:33,338 --> 00:41:35,883
and then he'd walk to Sims Metal
774
00:41:35,923 --> 00:41:39,054
and he'd get, like, 12 bucks
and stuff like that.
775
00:41:39,094 --> 00:41:39,595
I just had...
776
00:41:39,635 --> 00:41:43,891
My brain did not work that way
at all,
777
00:41:43,931 --> 00:41:46,102
but it certainly got into my
soul,
778
00:41:46,142 --> 00:41:50,230
you know, running around
and collecting things and stuff.
779
00:41:50,771 --> 00:41:51,482
[spraying paint]
780
00:41:51,522 --> 00:41:56,944
Look, I always wish my brother
was on these adventures with me.
781
00:41:57,028 --> 00:41:57,655
I quite often think,
782
00:41:57,695 --> 00:41:59,824
"God, my brother would've loved
doing this"
783
00:41:59,864 --> 00:42:03,994
or "God, I could really do with
his hand," 'cause he's bloody...
784
00:42:04,035 --> 00:42:08,539
He was a frickin' clever bastard
and funny.
785
00:42:09,206 --> 00:42:16,756
My own brother, who was fearless
about everything but his work,
786
00:42:17,006 --> 00:42:19,802
I just begged him
to give up his job
787
00:42:19,842 --> 00:42:20,553
so he could be home more
788
00:42:20,593 --> 00:42:22,388
'cause he was always travelling
with his work.
789
00:42:22,428 --> 00:42:25,100
And I think I told you, you
know, he was drugged and robbed
790
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:29,562
and he was dead within a week
pursuing the wage.
791
00:42:29,602 --> 00:42:30,187
When he died,
792
00:42:30,227 --> 00:42:34,400
I always was determined to be as
wild as he was
793
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,860
but also to stick with the fact
that, at work,
794
00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:40,030
fuck it, you know,
795
00:42:40,071 --> 00:42:42,283
you've gotta be your own person.
796
00:42:42,323 --> 00:42:45,660
[rock'n'roll track plays]
797
00:42:51,124 --> 00:42:52,250
[chuckles]
798
00:42:54,502 --> 00:42:56,462
He has a lot of fun!
799
00:42:56,587 --> 00:42:57,798
Oh, my God, the joy.
800
00:42:57,838 --> 00:43:01,218
It's like, "Yuge, Yuge,
come here. Ta-da!"
801
00:43:01,258 --> 00:43:04,180
"Hey, kids, kids, come here.
Ta-da!"
802
00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:08,268
It isn't really work, is it?
It's play.
803
00:43:08,308 --> 00:43:09,685
[kid squeals]
804
00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:10,603
You get creative here.
805
00:43:10,643 --> 00:43:13,231
They play music or...
to do something.
806
00:43:13,271 --> 00:43:14,982
I can feel it,
there's an energy here
807
00:43:15,022 --> 00:43:19,362
of wanting to create and make
something.
808
00:43:19,402 --> 00:43:22,782
It's almost like
a teenage sleepover
809
00:43:22,822 --> 00:43:26,367
that's gone on for 50 years.
810
00:43:26,742 --> 00:43:28,911
Yuge, Yuge!
811
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:33,209
It's this crazy house
and dinner parties
812
00:43:33,249 --> 00:43:35,085
and random
people showing up and...
813
00:43:35,126 --> 00:43:38,881
Like, being a child
in that family, like, oh!
814
00:43:38,921 --> 00:43:39,340
Again!
815
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:42,760
This is not somebody who goes to
work and comes back from work.
816
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,848
This is a couple of artists
that work is the veins.
817
00:43:47,888 --> 00:43:48,516
It is the life.
818
00:43:48,556 --> 00:43:50,851
So, how can you separate kids
from that?
819
00:43:50,891 --> 00:43:56,021
So, the kids are covered in
paint and the kids are drawing.
820
00:43:56,147 --> 00:43:56,941
They're just a part of it all
821
00:43:56,981 --> 00:43:59,444
and then they throw dogs in the
mix, as well,
822
00:43:59,484 --> 00:44:01,237
almost a bit too chaotic.
823
00:44:01,277 --> 00:44:01,862
[dog barks]
824
00:44:01,902 --> 00:44:04,073
Like, David having
seven children,
825
00:44:04,113 --> 00:44:04,949
it's so natural for them.
826
00:44:04,989 --> 00:44:06,617
He's got them
all hanging off him, you know,
827
00:44:06,657 --> 00:44:09,912
and he's just, like, trying to,
like, focus and it's just like,
828
00:44:09,952 --> 00:44:12,165
"Yeah, this is easy," you know,
like...
829
00:44:12,205 --> 00:44:16,419
I find it really tricky to paint
with a baby in my hand
830
00:44:16,459 --> 00:44:17,503
but I've done it.
831
00:44:17,543 --> 00:44:19,964
Hanging round with Dad and Yuge
is pretty great.
832
00:44:20,004 --> 00:44:22,217
At least half the time
I'm with him,
833
00:44:22,257 --> 00:44:24,301
he does not have a shirt on.
834
00:44:24,341 --> 00:44:29,432
Probably more. There's not really any
distinction between work life,
835
00:44:29,472 --> 00:44:32,352
family life, real life.
836
00:44:32,392 --> 00:44:34,354
A typical day for us is madness,
837
00:44:34,394 --> 00:44:38,441
and it's something that I find
great comfort
838
00:44:38,481 --> 00:44:41,901
and great ease in doing.
839
00:44:46,864 --> 00:44:51,704
To combine together
to make some wallpaper.
840
00:44:51,744 --> 00:44:56,125
Bei, did you turn that into
giant, big, long slime
841
00:44:56,165 --> 00:44:57,293
and then you were cutting it up?
842
00:44:57,333 --> 00:44:58,628
-Yeah.
-That is so cool.
843
00:44:58,668 --> 00:45:03,216
Hey, Yuge, you know this, like,
really nice European table?
844
00:45:03,256 --> 00:45:05,635
Do you like the fact
that it's got cut marks
845
00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:07,427
all the way through it?
846
00:45:08,678 --> 00:45:09,972
Um...
847
00:45:10,012 --> 00:45:11,514
[Yuge] Yeah.
848
00:45:12,848 --> 00:45:15,518
Ooh, I'll have a look at that.
849
00:45:15,976 --> 00:45:21,108
I've got this collection
of matchbox covers
850
00:45:21,148 --> 00:45:23,319
from eastern Europe somewhere
851
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:26,322
and they're really cool and
they're tiny,
852
00:45:26,362 --> 00:45:31,536
and I've got thousands of them,
and I'm looking through them
853
00:45:31,576 --> 00:45:36,373
for interesting ones to print
and make into big collages.
854
00:45:36,413 --> 00:45:39,959
Anyway, Yuge's going,
"Look how little they are.
855
00:45:40,335 --> 00:45:43,588
How does someone make something
that small?"
856
00:45:43,754 --> 00:45:44,549
And I'm looking at them
857
00:45:44,589 --> 00:45:46,759
and I'd looked at about 500 by
this stage.
858
00:45:46,799 --> 00:45:48,594
I'm starting to spin out
a little bit.
859
00:45:48,634 --> 00:45:51,681
And then Yuge's saying
how small they are and, like,
860
00:45:51,721 --> 00:45:54,725
rather than putting them down
and stopping the anxiety,
861
00:45:54,765 --> 00:45:56,477
I keep thinking of people
862
00:45:56,517 --> 00:45:59,522
working on thousands
of these little things
863
00:45:59,562 --> 00:46:01,148
every day of their life.
864
00:46:01,188 --> 00:46:04,108
And I'm like, "Fuck, it's..."
865
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,531
You know, we were talking
before, Sean, about,
866
00:46:08,571 --> 00:46:09,782
you know, people still not
867
00:46:09,822 --> 00:46:14,662
taking people
with mental illness seriously.
868
00:46:14,702 --> 00:46:18,291
Yeah, well, that's probably
one of the reasons why.
869
00:46:18,331 --> 00:46:20,918
"What are you scared of?"
"Little tiny matchbox covers."
870
00:46:20,958 --> 00:46:25,089
How the fuck are you supposed
to garner sympathy
871
00:46:25,129 --> 00:46:27,467
when that's the case?
872
00:46:27,507 --> 00:46:30,886
They'd be like, "Well, don't get
matchbox labels.
873
00:46:30,926 --> 00:46:35,808
Don't get thousands of them and
look at them for hours on end.
874
00:46:35,848 --> 00:46:37,393
There's your answer."
875
00:46:37,433 --> 00:46:38,643
But...
876
00:46:38,893 --> 00:46:43,023
As I always say to some people,
you know, if you've got...
877
00:46:43,063 --> 00:46:45,150
If you suffer from anxiety
878
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:47,069
and whatever it is that you're,
you know...
879
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:49,196
Say it's open spaces,
which I've got,
880
00:46:49,236 --> 00:46:51,824
and you go out
and you conquer that,
881
00:46:51,864 --> 00:46:53,368
usually, anxiety will just...
882
00:46:53,408 --> 00:46:56,454
So, you'll go, "I've done it,
I'm no longer afraid of it."
883
00:46:56,494 --> 00:46:59,915
And then the next day
your anxiety just latches
884
00:46:59,955 --> 00:47:03,336
onto something else
that you're doing.
885
00:47:03,376 --> 00:47:04,837
You know, I mean, I didn't think
886
00:47:04,877 --> 00:47:06,339
that little, tiny
matchbox things
887
00:47:06,379 --> 00:47:07,632
were gonna kill me or anything
888
00:47:07,672 --> 00:47:10,760
but even just talking
about it now
889
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,386
is making me highly
uncomfortable.
890
00:47:14,512 --> 00:47:15,848
Watch this. Watch this.
891
00:47:15,888 --> 00:47:21,604
Who's the cause of so much of
my anxiety? This one's my mum.
892
00:47:21,644 --> 00:47:25,189
[grunts and warbles]
893
00:47:25,523 --> 00:47:30,277
Sorry, Mum. What do they say,
don't speak ill of the dead?
894
00:47:33,113 --> 00:47:34,740
Oh, my God.
895
00:47:34,865 --> 00:47:37,286
My mum, you go in and,
like, she's dying
896
00:47:37,326 --> 00:47:38,996
and then you walk in and you go,
"Hi, Mum."
897
00:47:39,036 --> 00:47:42,625
And she goes, "You're fat."
Yeah. No. I...
898
00:47:42,665 --> 00:47:47,795
My mum was awesome.
I loved her very, very much.
899
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,051
She could just be
sometimes a bit tough.
900
00:47:52,091 --> 00:47:57,973
Um, so Mum, I think she had one
or two cigarettes in her life
901
00:47:58,013 --> 00:47:58,599
which is not enough.
902
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:04,229
So, I gave her a pipe 'cause she
didn't have enough cigarettes.
903
00:48:04,269 --> 00:48:06,941
He, on the other hand,
had way too many, so...
904
00:48:06,981 --> 00:48:09,526
But my brother was
an amazing builder
905
00:48:09,566 --> 00:48:14,822
and metaphorically
a great builder 'cause he...
906
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,952
Get off my mum, you bug.
907
00:48:17,992 --> 00:48:20,037
Yeah, I loved my brother
so much.
908
00:48:20,077 --> 00:48:23,248
He was a really, really, really
special dude
909
00:48:23,288 --> 00:48:24,917
and, seriously,
could build everything.
910
00:48:24,957 --> 00:48:31,964
My dad was an avid reader
and, when Dad was
911
00:48:32,214 --> 00:48:35,260
close to the end,
I can't think what it was,
912
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:36,846
six months or something like
that,
913
00:48:36,886 --> 00:48:37,638
and none of us knew
914
00:48:37,678 --> 00:48:40,558
but it was obvious that he was
not getting a lot better,
915
00:48:40,598 --> 00:48:44,979
and I said, "What have you
been reading lately, Dad?"
916
00:48:45,019 --> 00:48:47,607
And he said,
"Don't have long left.
917
00:48:47,647 --> 00:48:49,442
"Comedy. Comedy only.
918
00:48:49,482 --> 00:48:52,152
"Funny stuff only,
nothing serious.
919
00:48:52,192 --> 00:48:53,070
"I don't have long enough.
920
00:48:53,110 --> 00:48:55,781
"So, I'll just get straight back
to the funny shit
921
00:48:55,821 --> 00:48:56,573
"and that's all I do.
922
00:48:56,613 --> 00:48:59,201
That's the only thing I'll read
for the rest of my life."
923
00:48:59,241 --> 00:49:00,327
How cool's that.
924
00:49:00,367 --> 00:49:02,162
What a wise decision.
925
00:49:02,202 --> 00:49:05,082
My dad was fucking awesome.
926
00:49:05,122 --> 00:49:06,250
So was my brother.
927
00:49:06,290 --> 00:49:10,713
Mum, she is...
She was awesome, too.
928
00:49:10,753 --> 00:49:12,672
[laughs]
929
00:49:12,797 --> 00:49:15,925
[grunts and warbles]
930
00:49:18,928 --> 00:49:24,601
It's brought numerous problems,
still, my absolute insanity.
931
00:49:24,641 --> 00:49:28,564
I mean, I've been at stages
where, you know,
932
00:49:28,604 --> 00:49:29,815
I'd work 20 hours a day,
933
00:49:29,855 --> 00:49:31,817
you know,
go to sleep for two hours,
934
00:49:31,857 --> 00:49:32,902
get up again and do it
935
00:49:32,942 --> 00:49:35,279
because I actually was addicted
936
00:49:35,319 --> 00:49:38,699
to not having a conversation and
in my own head.
937
00:49:38,739 --> 00:49:41,076
You know, to me it was one of
the most delightful things
938
00:49:41,116 --> 00:49:43,704
that you could ever do
was to be so busy
939
00:49:43,744 --> 00:49:48,042
you were just on the edge of
absolute and utter exhaustion.
940
00:49:48,082 --> 00:49:51,001
[rock'n'roll track plays]
941
00:49:55,172 --> 00:49:57,342
♪ I said hey, look
942
00:49:57,382 --> 00:50:01,430
♪ How did I find you? ♪♪
943
00:50:01,470 --> 00:50:04,308
He's like a really
factory guy, yeah?
944
00:50:04,348 --> 00:50:06,476
Produce, produce,
produce, produce.
945
00:50:06,517 --> 00:50:09,229
Work, commitment, get it done.
946
00:50:09,269 --> 00:50:11,649
♪ Oh when you're down
and beaten... ♪
947
00:50:11,689 --> 00:50:14,318
He'll cancel plans,
he won't go out to dinner,
948
00:50:14,358 --> 00:50:17,947
he'll go home and start working
on a proposal or start drawing,
949
00:50:17,987 --> 00:50:22,950
whatever he needs to do to make
this new, fun thing happen.
950
00:50:23,618 --> 00:50:28,082
♪ Well, there's no use
crying on your own ♪
951
00:50:28,122 --> 00:50:32,086
He is this uncontrollable
creative force
952
00:50:32,126 --> 00:50:35,756
that just keeps coming and
coming and coming and coming.
953
00:50:35,796 --> 00:50:38,884
Some people may say,
"OK, just stop now, slow down,"
954
00:50:38,924 --> 00:50:42,429
and he's like,
"No, no, fuck you, I won't."
955
00:50:42,469 --> 00:50:44,930
♪ I'm gonna keep on... ♪♪
956
00:50:45,305 --> 00:50:46,601
Push and push and push
957
00:50:46,641 --> 00:50:48,685
till he actually falls in a
heap, you know,
958
00:50:48,725 --> 00:50:49,436
head down in a pillow
959
00:50:49,476 --> 00:50:52,688
and he doesn't actually move for
two hours.
960
00:50:53,355 --> 00:50:56,401
And then he'll be up
and he'll be like, "Hey, guys!"
961
00:50:56,441 --> 00:50:58,779
♪ I said, darling ♪♪
962
00:50:58,819 --> 00:51:00,697
♪ What's it all come to? ♪♪
963
00:51:00,737 --> 00:51:03,743
Part of that is that's his
therapy, that's his process
964
00:51:03,783 --> 00:51:07,788
for staying on an even keel
is to just keep on working
965
00:51:07,828 --> 00:51:10,916
and keep on being interested
in new things
966
00:51:10,956 --> 00:51:12,376
and new people
and new ideas.
967
00:51:12,416 --> 00:51:15,295
♪ All I need's to be
working with you ♪♪
968
00:51:15,335 --> 00:51:19,800
It's a scary experience to have
a mind that doesn't stop,
969
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,178
and to experience
waves of anxiety,
970
00:51:23,218 --> 00:51:25,139
panic, fear, depression.
971
00:51:25,179 --> 00:51:28,225
David's talking about it
to help himself.
972
00:51:28,265 --> 00:51:31,520
And the by-product
is that it helps other people,
973
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,187
and he's probably like,
974
00:51:32,227 --> 00:51:33,397
"That's great that
it helps other people"
975
00:51:33,437 --> 00:51:37,734
"but I'd talk about it anyway,"
and it's the same with his art.
976
00:51:37,774 --> 00:51:39,904
"It's great that some people
really like it
977
00:51:39,944 --> 00:51:41,656
"and it makes people feel good.
978
00:51:41,696 --> 00:51:43,780
I'd make it anyway."
979
00:51:44,740 --> 00:51:47,242
[cans whooshing]
980
00:51:49,203 --> 00:51:49,830
He doesn't give a shit
981
00:51:49,870 --> 00:51:53,167
what people think of either him
or his work.
982
00:51:53,207 --> 00:51:53,959
He is what he is,
983
00:51:53,999 --> 00:51:58,547
and the work that he produces is
what he produces.
984
00:51:58,587 --> 00:52:03,844
It's the thing that fires him
and nurtures him and heals him.
985
00:52:03,884 --> 00:52:07,888
♪ Crying on your own ♪
986
00:52:14,854 --> 00:52:19,859
Fuck, it's a beautiful time
of night, isn't it? Man!
987
00:52:19,984 --> 00:52:24,613
Everything looks good
this time of night.
988
00:52:26,991 --> 00:52:29,494
Um, I, um
989
00:52:29,534 --> 00:52:34,166
have a reasonably
colourful history
990
00:52:34,206 --> 00:52:39,962
of going to see people
many years ago for, um...
991
00:52:41,714 --> 00:52:42,591
advice or help
992
00:52:42,631 --> 00:52:49,014
or pleading with them
to try and work out the puzzle
993
00:52:49,054 --> 00:52:51,515
in my head.
994
00:52:52,516 --> 00:52:56,480
I attempted to kill myself
on my 33rd birthday,
995
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,901
and I remember that 'cause
I tried at 23 and I tried at 33.
996
00:53:02,859 --> 00:53:06,031
I tried to hang myself,
and, you know,
997
00:53:06,071 --> 00:53:08,407
I don't know what I did wrong.
998
00:53:09,616 --> 00:53:16,375
To be suicidal is one of the
lowest senses or positions
999
00:53:16,415 --> 00:53:18,794
you can be mentally.
1000
00:53:18,834 --> 00:53:20,963
You want to escape yourself.
1001
00:53:21,003 --> 00:53:23,548
You want to run away
from yourself.
1002
00:53:23,588 --> 00:53:25,968
You spend an immense
amount of time
1003
00:53:26,008 --> 00:53:27,887
not wanting to be
in your own body.
1004
00:53:27,927 --> 00:53:29,889
You're like a cat
on a hot tin roof
1005
00:53:29,929 --> 00:53:31,724
and perhaps you have been
for years.
1006
00:53:31,764 --> 00:53:34,268
It hurts just to put your feet
on the ground
1007
00:53:34,308 --> 00:53:34,894
and, wherever you go,
1008
00:53:34,934 --> 00:53:39,356
yourself follows yourself around
and you just want to edit that.
1009
00:53:39,396 --> 00:53:41,025
Certainly, as a younger man,
1010
00:53:41,065 --> 00:53:45,029
the rest of your life seemed
like the bigger thing,
1011
00:53:45,069 --> 00:53:47,990
and, if you are not having
1012
00:53:48,030 --> 00:53:49,867
anything but a torrid time with
your life
1013
00:53:49,907 --> 00:53:53,328
and you imagine eternity
going through these things.
1014
00:53:53,368 --> 00:53:54,538
I mean, at my age now,
1015
00:53:54,578 --> 00:53:58,125
I don't look at things in life
forward as an eternity,
1016
00:53:58,165 --> 00:54:01,086
so if I have a bad day
or a tough day or something,
1017
00:54:01,126 --> 00:54:02,838
I try and snap out of it
pretty quickly
1018
00:54:02,878 --> 00:54:10,344
because I can see the finite
amount of time that I have left.
1019
00:54:10,469 --> 00:54:14,724
When I made a commitment
to never do that again,
1020
00:54:14,765 --> 00:54:19,021
the trouble sometimes
when you say to yourself,
1021
00:54:19,061 --> 00:54:22,356
"Well, I'm gonna rebuild my
life..."
1022
00:54:22,857 --> 00:54:24,651
The reality is, you know,
1023
00:54:24,691 --> 00:54:29,239
anyone you hurt or the person
that left you,
1024
00:54:29,279 --> 00:54:30,615
they still don't want you.
1025
00:54:30,655 --> 00:54:31,075
You know?
1026
00:54:31,115 --> 00:54:34,703
You haven't gone, "Well, I'm OK,
I'm gonna build a new life
1027
00:54:34,743 --> 00:54:38,248
and everyone's gonna see me
as this new person."
1028
00:54:38,288 --> 00:54:38,748
You know?
1029
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:40,209
The clouds
are still gonna be dark
1030
00:54:40,249 --> 00:54:42,461
or some days
are still gonna be horrible
1031
00:54:42,501 --> 00:54:47,842
and that can seem infinite
in its challenge.
1032
00:54:47,882 --> 00:54:51,428
But then, through being
at the very bottom
1033
00:54:51,468 --> 00:54:53,848
and being in those
particular situations,
1034
00:54:53,888 --> 00:54:56,016
you start to try and articulate
1035
00:54:56,056 --> 00:55:00,938
how you can possibly
utilise things better
1036
00:55:00,978 --> 00:55:03,858
by seeking an avenue
for your brain
1037
00:55:03,898 --> 00:55:07,444
not to be distracted by a
certain nothingness.
1038
00:55:07,484 --> 00:55:08,070
You put it to work
1039
00:55:08,110 --> 00:55:10,739
and so therefore you start to
get fascinated in things,
1040
00:55:10,779 --> 00:55:15,202
and then it becomes natural
and then it becomes interesting
1041
00:55:15,242 --> 00:55:16,786
and then you follow up
more things
1042
00:55:16,827 --> 00:55:22,917
and, as the cycle can spiral
down, the cycle can spiral up.
1043
00:55:23,042 --> 00:55:30,092
I certainly enjoyed the sense,
I suppose, of devil may care.
1044
00:55:30,132 --> 00:55:33,888
Some of my favourite times
because it was just like,
1045
00:55:33,928 --> 00:55:37,099
well, I'm not gonna ever
attempt suicide again
1046
00:55:37,139 --> 00:55:39,351
but I really don't give a shit.
1047
00:55:39,391 --> 00:55:40,978
[laughs]
1048
00:55:41,018 --> 00:55:42,479
And flying in the face of it
1049
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:43,939
and it's probably
some of the most
1050
00:55:43,979 --> 00:55:46,358
emotionally well times I've
been,
1051
00:55:46,398 --> 00:55:47,651
not necessarily happy
1052
00:55:47,691 --> 00:55:51,321
or not necessarily feeling well
inside of myself,
1053
00:55:51,361 --> 00:55:54,824
but so incredible 'cause,
when I met Yuge,
1054
00:55:54,865 --> 00:55:57,411
I developed trust
in another person again
1055
00:55:57,451 --> 00:56:00,956
and a feeling that things
were special
1056
00:56:00,996 --> 00:56:01,790
and they meant something
1057
00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:05,044
and that hard shell
that I had built up
1058
00:56:05,084 --> 00:56:06,170
was starting to soften again
1059
00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:10,007
and I started to, you know, get
my anxiety back and stuff.
1060
00:56:10,047 --> 00:56:14,594
'Cause the devil may care thing
had gone and I cared again.
1061
00:56:14,634 --> 00:56:19,016
Oh, my God, what I went through.
The confusion of...
1062
00:56:19,056 --> 00:56:22,769
Oh, my God, now I've got this
thing that I want.
1063
00:56:22,809 --> 00:56:23,645
And it's funny.
1064
00:56:23,685 --> 00:56:24,563
I think Yuge would say
1065
00:56:24,603 --> 00:56:26,315
that she went through a similar
thing, too,
1066
00:56:26,355 --> 00:56:30,819
this feeling of such love and
support from another person,
1067
00:56:30,859 --> 00:56:34,114
and the crazy just comes back
1068
00:56:34,154 --> 00:56:37,657
'cause this is a really nice
place to live.
1069
00:56:38,951 --> 00:56:40,036
Yeah, I don't want to
fuck it up,
1070
00:56:40,076 --> 00:56:43,582
I don't want to mess
it up. Yeah, here we go...
1071
00:56:43,622 --> 00:56:45,081
[chuckles]
1072
00:56:46,208 --> 00:56:49,461
[gentle music plays]
1073
00:58:08,498 --> 00:58:09,626
He's brilliant.
1074
00:58:09,666 --> 00:58:11,336
I reckon he worked out in utero
1075
00:58:11,376 --> 00:58:14,839
that he better get with the
program or get left behind,
1076
00:58:14,879 --> 00:58:15,715
so he just came out going,
1077
00:58:15,755 --> 00:58:20,887
"Alrighty, I'll just make sure
I'm really, really good for you
1078
00:58:20,927 --> 00:58:24,931
because I know you guys
are gonna be full on."
1079
00:58:29,561 --> 00:58:31,271
Oh, yeah!
1080
00:58:33,107 --> 00:58:35,151
The old Castlemaine Gaol.
1081
00:58:35,191 --> 00:58:39,446
Was built in the
something or other or other.
1082
00:58:39,571 --> 00:58:43,992
Not interested in a jail
at all, like...
1083
00:58:44,576 --> 00:58:46,496
We've gotta keep
running the business.
1084
00:58:46,536 --> 00:58:47,789
How are we gonna buy a jail?
1085
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:51,541
I love it. I love this tree.
1086
00:58:54,253 --> 00:58:57,881
Oh, look at this red colour,
darling.
1087
00:58:59,424 --> 00:59:01,261
Oh, I love that.
1088
00:59:01,301 --> 00:59:02,471
Oh...
1089
00:59:02,511 --> 00:59:04,929
I love it!
1090
00:59:07,141 --> 00:59:10,520
Hey, Yuge, I love this place.
1091
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,816
My head's turning and I'm going,
"What do we do with the jail?"
1092
00:59:14,856 --> 00:59:18,612
And I said to David, "I'll only
consider putting an offer in
1093
00:59:18,652 --> 00:59:20,697
if you hear me out
what I think we should do."
1094
00:59:20,737 --> 00:59:23,199
'Cause I don't want to do
what we've done before.
1095
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:24,576
I don't want to open a gallery,
1096
00:59:24,616 --> 00:59:27,371
but picture it not being a jail,
you know?
1097
00:59:27,411 --> 00:59:29,414
Imagine a museum-type place.
1098
00:59:29,454 --> 00:59:34,503
You walk in and you just see
these huge kids' sculptures,
1099
00:59:34,543 --> 00:59:35,462
you know, something with whimsy
1100
00:59:35,502 --> 00:59:39,258
and that we can shift the axes
of how you look at a jail
1101
00:59:39,298 --> 00:59:45,262
from something so oppressive
to something much more romantic.
1102
00:59:45,387 --> 00:59:46,681
And he's like,
"Yeah, I love it."
1103
00:59:46,721 --> 00:59:48,267
And I bet he was just like,
1104
00:59:48,307 --> 00:59:51,811
"OK, Yuge's on board. I'll love
whatever she says.
1105
00:59:51,851 --> 00:59:54,939
"I don't care.
I've got her attention."
1106
00:59:54,979 --> 00:59:56,316
"I love it, I love it."
1107
00:59:56,356 --> 00:59:58,942
Let's do it.
1108
01:00:03,113 --> 01:00:04,241
Reality sets in
1109
01:00:04,281 --> 01:00:10,038
when you bring half a dozen
major sculptural pieces.
1110
01:00:10,078 --> 01:00:11,415
As we drove home yesterday,
1111
01:00:11,455 --> 01:00:13,667
we said,
"Let's just go bat shit crazy."
1112
01:00:13,707 --> 01:00:15,377
Fuck it, let's just go bat shit
crazy.
1113
01:00:15,417 --> 01:00:17,003
Let's just go mad.
1114
01:00:17,043 --> 01:00:21,423
I think, also, too, we just
want it to be a fun place.
1115
01:00:24,384 --> 01:00:25,885
[chuckles]
1116
01:00:32,058 --> 01:00:35,522
♪ You're a mess,
take a long deep breath ♪
1117
01:00:35,562 --> 01:00:38,692
♪ And get it off your chest ♪♪
1118
01:00:38,732 --> 01:00:39,568
♪ I don't have the answers ♪
1119
01:00:39,608 --> 01:00:43,279
♪ But they're probably
somewhere in the question ♪♪
1120
01:00:43,319 --> 01:00:44,781
♪ They usually are ♪
1121
01:00:44,821 --> 01:00:46,783
♪ Nowhere I'd rather go ♪
1122
01:00:46,823 --> 01:00:50,119
♪ Than with you
on your downward spiral ♪♪
1123
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,789
♪ I'll be your wing
man anytime ♪♪
1124
01:00:54,998 --> 01:00:57,041
♪ Like you are mine
1125
01:00:59,711 --> 01:01:03,508
♪ If there's something
that can't be helped ♪
1126
01:01:03,548 --> 01:01:04,343
♪ Something that... ♪
1127
01:01:04,383 --> 01:01:07,387
-Is that your oven cleaner?
-Yeah.
1128
01:01:07,427 --> 01:01:10,307
Crap your eyes, tongue.
1129
01:01:10,347 --> 01:01:12,141
It tastes like
kissing a battery.
1130
01:01:12,182 --> 01:01:14,186
!♪ 'Cause when I talk you down ♪♪
1131
01:01:14,226 --> 01:01:16,480
♪ I confess I'm an optimist ♪
1132
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,024
♪ And that makes you tired
and restless ♪
1133
01:01:20,064 --> 01:01:21,067
♪ I don't have the answers ♪♪
1134
01:01:21,107 --> 01:01:24,738
♪ But they're probably
somewhere in the question ♪♪
1135
01:01:24,778 --> 01:01:25,905
♪ They usually are ♪
1136
01:01:25,945 --> 01:01:28,658
♪ Still laugh
at the same things ♪♪
1137
01:01:28,698 --> 01:01:31,536
♪ Same jokes,
it's quite concerning ♪♪
1138
01:01:31,576 --> 01:01:34,873
♪ You can be
my wing man anytime ♪♪
1139
01:01:34,913 --> 01:01:38,333
♪ Bullshit, you can be mine ♪
1140
01:01:41,503 --> 01:01:44,673
!♪ I just want to talk you down
1141
01:01:47,467 --> 01:01:48,843
Oh!
1142
01:02:01,648 --> 01:02:05,235
[song ends]
1143
01:02:09,531 --> 01:02:10,575
Oh, the jail,
1144
01:02:10,615 --> 01:02:13,495
which he apparently is gonna
open next year,
1145
01:02:13,535 --> 01:02:15,079
sort of a personal museum.
1146
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:16,956
I mean,
that's another sidebar too,
1147
01:02:16,996 --> 01:02:18,875
open your own museum
to yourself.
1148
01:02:18,915 --> 01:02:21,336
And when you get to that
kind of level,
1149
01:02:21,376 --> 01:02:25,381
the general attitude
is not exactly disdain,
1150
01:02:25,421 --> 01:02:27,467
although that's
probably accurate.
1151
01:02:27,507 --> 01:02:29,844
It's like, "Get away.
1152
01:02:29,884 --> 01:02:33,390
That's a bit too much, thanks."
1153
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:37,101
If we really thought about it
much more,
1154
01:02:37,141 --> 01:02:38,728
we probably would've stopped at
1155
01:02:38,768 --> 01:02:41,690
the considering to buy the jail
part
1156
01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:43,983
and just not gone down
that path.
1157
01:02:44,023 --> 01:02:46,736
We've not made a cent
in five years
1158
01:02:46,776 --> 01:02:48,447
and we've poured
so much into it.
1159
01:02:48,487 --> 01:02:50,615
You know, that side of things,
you just go,
1160
01:02:50,655 --> 01:02:53,660
if you thought about it
too much, you'd give up.
1161
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:58,790
I think maybe David,
with his such active mind,
1162
01:02:58,830 --> 01:03:02,877
seeks out those situations
that feel near impossible
1163
01:03:02,917 --> 01:03:06,756
because then it occupies your
mind through the challenges
1164
01:03:06,796 --> 01:03:07,674
and through the hard work,
1165
01:03:07,714 --> 01:03:11,468
and he just keeps pushing and
pushing and pushing.
1166
01:03:11,635 --> 01:03:13,720
Paint tin lids!
1167
01:03:15,347 --> 01:03:16,931
[lid clattering]
1168
01:03:18,016 --> 01:03:19,393
Rope!
1169
01:03:24,272 --> 01:03:27,527
-Which is low and which is high?
-Right side's lower.
1170
01:03:27,567 --> 01:03:28,820
So it's lower.
1171
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:30,572
So it needs to be about that?
1172
01:03:30,612 --> 01:03:34,368
OK, do you want to see
if there's a bit of sticky tape
1173
01:03:34,408 --> 01:03:34,909
or card or...?
1174
01:03:34,949 --> 01:03:39,706
Nuh, fuck it, let's not mess
around, I just won't use those.
1175
01:03:39,746 --> 01:03:41,790
So annoying.
1176
01:03:44,167 --> 01:03:45,919
Everything's broken.
1177
01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:50,549
[kid singing]
1178
01:03:51,174 --> 01:03:52,842
We better jump in.
1179
01:03:56,513 --> 01:03:59,391
Go! Three, two, one.
1180
01:04:01,393 --> 01:04:03,269
Watch your step.
1181
01:04:04,020 --> 01:04:07,065
[groaning]
1182
01:04:07,441 --> 01:04:09,233
Babe, please.
1183
01:04:11,152 --> 01:04:12,612
Push.
1184
01:04:15,407 --> 01:04:17,033
No, I don't agree.
1185
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,163
-You know what, push back!
-Watch out, bub!
1186
01:04:20,203 --> 01:04:22,040
-You're gonna kill someone.
-No, well...
1187
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,333
You are, you're going to
actually hurt someone.
1188
01:04:24,374 --> 01:04:27,086
Babe, don't give me
a hard time.
1189
01:04:27,126 --> 01:04:28,087
I'm not giving you
a hard time.
1190
01:04:28,127 --> 01:04:29,464
You don't have to
fuck up the day.
1191
01:04:29,504 --> 01:04:34,886
Every single thing that
I ask for hasn't happened.
1192
01:04:34,926 --> 01:04:36,971
There's shit in
all the doorways.
1193
01:04:37,011 --> 01:04:39,891
Everything's broken.
Don't say...
1194
01:04:39,931 --> 01:04:42,561
The stuff that I've asked
everyone to do...
1195
01:04:42,601 --> 01:04:48,022
It's just... It's not fuck... It's not the
Fred Flintstone era.
1196
01:04:48,398 --> 01:04:49,233
And this thing...
1197
01:04:49,273 --> 01:04:53,319
See, it's more expensive
to fix this.
1198
01:04:56,072 --> 01:05:00,744
Sorry, this is all I do all day
is find broken shit everywhere.
1199
01:05:10,754 --> 01:05:14,590
[sombre music plays]
1200
01:05:14,716 --> 01:05:16,801
[ominous crash]
1201
01:05:56,215 --> 01:05:58,094
There's obviously
a few different ways
1202
01:05:58,134 --> 01:06:01,347
of reading
the actual statement
1203
01:06:01,387 --> 01:06:04,142
running from the voices
in my head.
1204
01:06:04,182 --> 01:06:06,520
You know, they will follow you.
1205
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:12,191
You know, you think that you've
set up all of the...you know,
1206
01:06:12,231 --> 01:06:14,027
if you block certain areas
1207
01:06:14,067 --> 01:06:16,320
or you've improved your health
1208
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,534
and then suddenly, fuck, there
it is again.
1209
01:06:20,574 --> 01:06:22,035
And you haven't
even recognised it
1210
01:06:22,075 --> 01:06:26,164
because it's to... you know,
it's wearing, you know,
1211
01:06:26,204 --> 01:06:28,166
totally different clothes.
1212
01:06:28,206 --> 01:06:31,920
Or you're completely different
or, you know,
1213
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:37,133
for instance, you've been
functioning remarkably
1214
01:06:37,173 --> 01:06:41,429
and then suddenly you go
full-blown panic attack
1215
01:06:41,469 --> 01:06:43,306
because you're fucked again,
1216
01:06:43,346 --> 01:06:49,018
and then you go, "Please, don't
let this happen to me now."
1217
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:50,479
"Oh, I'll give up drinking."
1218
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,565
Oh,
I've already given up drinking.
1219
01:06:51,605 --> 01:06:53,692
"Maybe you shouldn't smoke."
I don't smoke.
1220
01:06:53,732 --> 01:06:57,361
"Maybe you should be healthy
and run and swim and surf."
1221
01:06:57,401 --> 01:06:58,029
Well, I do that already.
1222
01:06:58,069 --> 01:07:01,866
"Maybe you should look at work
that will interest you."
1223
01:07:01,906 --> 01:07:03,617
I'm doing that already.
1224
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:08,540
And that's when
I've been
1225
01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:14,503
more highly aware of, you know,
my illness.
1226
01:07:14,544 --> 01:07:18,675
For me, having had this
since I was about 14,
1227
01:07:18,715 --> 01:07:21,845
so what's that, 46 years
or something like that,
1228
01:07:21,885 --> 01:07:25,932
I mean, come on. 46 years of doing the juggle
and still some days
1229
01:07:25,972 --> 01:07:30,562
I get the knock-out punch like
you would not fucking believe.
1230
01:07:30,602 --> 01:07:35,650
Only last week, it took me
four hours of lying in the bed
1231
01:07:35,690 --> 01:07:41,698
and I had to move my position,
I reckon, every three minutes
1232
01:07:41,738 --> 01:07:44,492
just to, sort of,
stretch my body
1233
01:07:44,532 --> 01:07:46,244
or move it in a
different way
1234
01:07:46,284 --> 01:07:47,036
because I was scared
1235
01:07:47,076 --> 01:07:50,707
I was gonna turn into a frozen
piece of steel
1236
01:07:50,747 --> 01:07:54,085
because my anxiety
was so incredibly high.
1237
01:07:54,125 --> 01:07:56,462
It was just fucking ridiculous.
1238
01:07:56,502 --> 01:07:56,963
Tell you what,
1239
01:07:57,003 --> 01:08:00,466
if I had a David
Bromley fucked-in-the-head bomb
1240
01:08:00,506 --> 01:08:02,718
that I could throw at people
and just say,
1241
01:08:02,758 --> 01:08:06,931
"Look, just stand over there,
I'll just throw this at ya.
1242
01:08:06,971 --> 01:08:09,392
Try ten minutes of this."
1243
01:08:09,432 --> 01:08:14,147
I mean, mate, I'd be chucking it
even at my friends
1244
01:08:14,187 --> 01:08:19,901
just so we could become closer
or just for a prank.
1245
01:08:26,074 --> 01:08:29,368
[machinery whirrs]
1246
01:08:34,666 --> 01:08:36,125
Mm.
1247
01:08:39,879 --> 01:08:40,882
Ooh!
1248
01:08:40,922 --> 01:08:43,925
Some very early stuff here.
1249
01:08:44,467 --> 01:08:46,554
These would've been
the sort of things
1250
01:08:46,594 --> 01:08:49,307
that I would've been
painting on my pottery.
1251
01:08:49,347 --> 01:08:51,851
There's me as a scarecrow.
1252
01:08:51,891 --> 01:08:54,688
Whenever I look back at
paintings I've done of myself,
1253
01:08:54,728 --> 01:08:59,483
"it just seems so contrived and
you think, 'You fucking wanker."
1254
01:08:59,523 --> 01:09:03,569
I'll... Yeah, I've stopped
doing that.
1255
01:09:03,819 --> 01:09:04,155
But, you know,
1256
01:09:04,195 --> 01:09:07,742
I quite like the thought of the
guy drilling the hole
1257
01:09:07,782 --> 01:09:11,913
through the bottom of the boat
to sink, you know,
1258
01:09:11,953 --> 01:09:15,164
his ex-girlfriend's boat.
1259
01:09:15,665 --> 01:09:16,250
I may be talking about
1260
01:09:16,290 --> 01:09:21,715
what the person I was with was
trying to do with me there.
1261
01:09:21,755 --> 01:09:24,300
You know, I used to
walk into galleries
1262
01:09:24,340 --> 01:09:25,593
and show them stuff like this
1263
01:09:25,633 --> 01:09:28,722
and, you know,
I sold very, very well.
1264
01:09:28,762 --> 01:09:31,891
You know,
I enjoyed it immensely then.
1265
01:09:31,931 --> 01:09:33,727
It certainly took me
off the street
1266
01:09:33,767 --> 01:09:39,023
and, I must say, if there's
anything I like about them,
1267
01:09:39,063 --> 01:09:46,612
you know, it's...there's a warm
smile that I have at that.
1268
01:09:47,196 --> 01:09:50,366
Yeah, I haven't seen these
for a long time.
1269
01:10:08,802 --> 01:10:10,096
Oh, why so sad
when the sky's so blue?
1270
01:10:10,136 --> 01:10:15,059
That's what I mean, just the
sheer obviousness, I suppose,
1271
01:10:15,099 --> 01:10:17,520
of that's me going through,
1272
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:23,024
like, major, you know,
depression and shit like that.
1273
01:10:24,859 --> 01:10:28,863
Fucking hell, this dude
just keeps falling over.
1274
01:10:29,447 --> 01:10:34,202
This person's laughing
and falling over.
1275
01:10:34,786 --> 01:10:38,416
This is, you know,
a person losing their house.
1276
01:10:38,456 --> 01:10:41,085
I told you I was insecure. Shit.
1277
01:10:41,125 --> 01:10:42,045
About, you know...
1278
01:10:42,085 --> 01:10:46,925
It just shows how much I did
feel like, you know, I just...
1279
01:10:46,965 --> 01:10:50,762
I was clawing to,
you know, survive.
1280
01:10:50,802 --> 01:10:53,139
Some of the most painful things
in my life
1281
01:10:53,179 --> 01:10:54,473
are not career challenges
1282
01:10:54,513 --> 01:10:57,726
but, you know,
partners leaving me and stuff
1283
01:10:57,767 --> 01:11:00,311
because it was just too hard.
1284
01:11:01,062 --> 01:11:03,858
It's like being nail gunned
to a wall,
1285
01:11:03,898 --> 01:11:06,027
you know, or left out
in the middle of a desert.
1286
01:11:06,067 --> 01:11:09,948
I mean, I felt like that
emotionally anyway,
1287
01:11:09,988 --> 01:11:13,034
let alone the reality of,
you know,
1288
01:11:13,074 --> 01:11:14,869
falling out with people
that I love
1289
01:11:14,909 --> 01:11:19,498
because, without it,
it just means fuckin' nothing.
1290
01:11:19,538 --> 01:11:22,751
I was that in need of
companionship and, you know,
1291
01:11:22,792 --> 01:11:27,465
you spend an inordinate amount
of time by yourself
1292
01:11:27,505 --> 01:11:28,716
at the easel.
1293
01:11:28,756 --> 01:11:32,595
Months would go by
without a phone call.
1294
01:11:32,635 --> 01:11:35,932
You know, my first major fears
were of infinity
1295
01:11:35,972 --> 01:11:40,061
and, I mean, loneliness
can be infinite, you know,
1296
01:11:40,101 --> 01:11:42,186
like a fuckin' abyss.
1297
01:11:42,770 --> 01:11:48,277
I yearned for richness and
deepness of narrative and stuff.
1298
01:11:48,317 --> 01:11:53,324
I was desperate for
creative and cultural resonance.
1299
01:11:53,364 --> 01:11:56,077
You know, I'd spent the
last years reading every book
1300
01:11:56,117 --> 01:11:58,912
on every artist
I could possibly find.
1301
01:11:58,995 --> 01:12:01,665
And, like, because I was
trying to heal myself,
1302
01:12:01,705 --> 01:12:04,043
I was hangin' round with dudes
that did yoga.
1303
01:12:04,083 --> 01:12:06,004
And they'd look at some of the
dark shit I'm making
1304
01:12:06,044 --> 01:12:09,423
and sort of go, "Fuck,
no wonder you're depressed."
1305
01:12:09,463 --> 01:12:10,633
And then you go out
into the arts scene
1306
01:12:10,673 --> 01:12:14,886
and you do something light,
and people are sort of, like
1307
01:12:15,303 --> 01:12:17,721
"Where's the tough stuff?"
1308
01:12:19,057 --> 01:12:22,395
I just... I don't have the
constitution for it
1309
01:12:22,435 --> 01:12:24,772
and, you know, so...
1310
01:12:24,812 --> 01:12:26,982
If I would've walked
down that path,
1311
01:12:27,022 --> 01:12:28,734
I mean, I would be dead by now.
1312
01:12:28,774 --> 01:12:33,865
I had to clean up my own act
because my body and mind
1313
01:12:33,905 --> 01:12:37,493
couldn't take the other stuff
and I'm glad.
1314
01:12:37,533 --> 01:12:38,994
I fuckin' like my life.
1315
01:12:39,034 --> 01:12:39,745
I'm not criticising others
1316
01:12:39,785 --> 01:12:43,332
but, if every sort of, like,
critic or something
1317
01:12:43,372 --> 01:12:47,003
seems to think
that you've gotta walk this edge
1318
01:12:47,043 --> 01:12:49,130
or the quality of your work
1319
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:54,468
needs to show such, you know,
like, risk taking constantly...
1320
01:12:54,508 --> 01:12:58,472
And that edge, I'm certainly not
going to that edge
1321
01:12:58,512 --> 01:12:59,974
'cause someone wants me to.
1322
01:13:00,014 --> 01:13:01,809
And how many have we lost?
1323
01:13:01,849 --> 01:13:03,895
How many great people
have we lost
1324
01:13:03,935 --> 01:13:07,022
because other people
were almost encouraging them on?
1325
01:13:07,062 --> 01:13:11,319
And, again,
I'm not against them.
1326
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:13,028
I've had... I've had times
1327
01:13:13,068 --> 01:13:17,072
where I fuckin' have had to go
screaming
1328
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,077
hurting, the sheer fuckin'
pain of living,
1329
01:13:21,702 --> 01:13:23,789
and, if I can find time to,
1330
01:13:23,829 --> 01:13:26,584
like, enjoy what I do on a daily
basis
1331
01:13:26,624 --> 01:13:29,753
through a sense of, sort
of, you know, like, a warmth,
1332
01:13:29,793 --> 01:13:33,882
transcending, you know,
emotional sort of challenge,
1333
01:13:33,923 --> 01:13:36,219
fuckin' putting a painting up
on the wall
1334
01:13:36,259 --> 01:13:37,136
because it looks fuckin' cool...
1335
01:13:37,176 --> 01:13:41,057
But it doesn't... it doesn't not
need that other stuff, as well.
1336
01:13:41,097 --> 01:13:45,519
I mean, fuck, I'm a consumer
of that other stuff.
1337
01:13:45,559 --> 01:13:49,647
I don't know, I just feel like
I've got another job to do.
1338
01:13:50,648 --> 01:13:54,568
[gently lilting
electric guitar music plays]
1339
01:14:07,123 --> 01:14:11,795
He doesn't draw dark.
I see only love in his art.
1340
01:14:11,835 --> 01:14:15,714
It's always - does it
make you happy?
1341
01:14:16,507 --> 01:14:21,762
A lot of David's work, I find,
it gives people hope.
1342
01:14:21,971 --> 01:14:26,475
Bromley's work, really,
is about beauty.
1343
01:14:26,684 --> 01:14:29,981
And joy. Childhood memories.
1344
01:14:30,021 --> 01:14:32,316
He's thinking about
a contemporary child's life
1345
01:14:32,356 --> 01:14:35,653
but also about what it's like
to have been a child yourself
1346
01:14:35,693 --> 01:14:37,071
and to imagine our parents
as children.
1347
01:14:37,111 --> 01:14:40,158
There's something beautiful and
humbling about that continuity,
1348
01:14:40,198 --> 01:14:42,117
that seeing these
God-like figures
1349
01:14:42,157 --> 01:14:46,370
as actually children in their
own right once upon a time.
1350
01:14:47,746 --> 01:14:50,126
[David] I've been called
a lightweight a million times.
1351
01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:53,962
I've been called a flavour
of the month for 30-odd years.
1352
01:14:54,003 --> 01:14:57,591
And, you know, I've had people
come up to me and said,
1353
01:14:57,631 --> 01:14:58,551
"You know, I just don't get it.
1354
01:14:58,591 --> 01:15:01,637
There's nothing of any substance
in it."
1355
01:15:01,677 --> 01:15:05,724
So, there's no substance
in innocence, joy?
1356
01:15:05,764 --> 01:15:06,142
[chuckles]
1357
01:15:06,182 --> 01:15:11,770
You know, I think it is one of
the most important things.
1358
01:15:16,191 --> 01:15:19,572
You know, one of the most
difficult things for any artist
1359
01:15:19,612 --> 01:15:23,159
is to do something
which is yours,
1360
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:25,160
some vision that's yours,
1361
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,747
something fresh and exciting
and new to say
1362
01:15:28,787 --> 01:15:36,129
that truly comes from the soul
and the empathy of that person.
1363
01:15:37,338 --> 01:15:38,882
Everything that comes out
1364
01:15:38,922 --> 01:15:43,221
is driven by this childlike
enthusiasm
1365
01:15:43,261 --> 01:15:45,348
to explore and be adventurous
1366
01:15:45,388 --> 01:15:48,476
and it's so beautiful and so
infectious,
1367
01:15:48,516 --> 01:15:51,770
and, if it ends up just being
a moment that you've experienced
1368
01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:55,399
something special by yourself
or with the people around you,
1369
01:15:55,439 --> 01:16:00,195
then it's done its job
and that's what art's for.
1370
01:16:00,235 --> 01:16:02,155
Look, there I am!
1371
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:05,616
Let me do the thing.
1372
01:16:07,451 --> 01:16:10,413
Ultimately,
we're all seeking joy.
1373
01:16:10,579 --> 01:16:13,208
It's not always
easy to find.
1374
01:16:13,248 --> 01:16:18,254
So, if your legacy
is the creation of joy,
1375
01:16:18,546 --> 01:16:20,881
I think that's immense.
1376
01:16:23,008 --> 01:16:25,969
My first Bromley piece,
I'm so excited.
1377
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:29,850
His art's just fun. You look at it and it makes
you smile, it makes you happy.
1378
01:16:29,890 --> 01:16:34,061
At the end of the day, that's
what art's supposed to do.
1379
01:16:34,478 --> 01:16:35,439
[applause]
1380
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,984
They're gonna be looked at
as this power couple
1381
01:16:39,024 --> 01:16:44,738
who were, like, the greats
in the Australian art world.
1382
01:16:45,364 --> 01:16:48,619
Kids will see this,
they'll see his lifestyle,
1383
01:16:48,659 --> 01:16:52,165
and they'll say, "Wow, that
makes me want to be an artist."
1384
01:16:52,205 --> 01:16:55,751
"I won't have to make coffee
eight hours a day"
1385
01:16:55,791 --> 01:16:56,877
"and paint at night."
1386
01:16:56,917 --> 01:16:58,586
She knows painting!
1387
01:17:00,754 --> 01:17:03,591
He's the genuine artist
of our time.
1388
01:17:04,133 --> 01:17:07,012
A proper evaluation should occur
1389
01:17:07,052 --> 01:17:11,350
to give him his place in the
history of Australian art.
1390
01:17:11,390 --> 01:17:12,893
But it will be a long time.
1391
01:17:12,933 --> 01:17:15,270
It won't be in my lifetime
or his
1392
01:17:15,310 --> 01:17:17,856
when Bromley
will get a retrospective
1393
01:17:17,896 --> 01:17:20,649
at the National Gallery
of Victoria.
1394
01:17:31,619 --> 01:17:34,748
We're calling it The Bromley
Collection Museum
1395
01:17:34,788 --> 01:17:35,958
at the old Castlemaine Gaol.
1396
01:17:35,998 --> 01:17:39,670
More than anything, they're just
artists that we love collecting
1397
01:17:39,710 --> 01:17:43,757
or works that we've had the
great fortune to come across.
1398
01:17:43,797 --> 01:17:48,427
You know, everything has a
very personal connection to us.
1399
01:17:48,802 --> 01:17:52,683
I was asked by a financial paper
1400
01:17:52,723 --> 01:17:55,186
to put down a value of our art,
1401
01:17:55,226 --> 01:17:58,356
and I said, "Well, let me
put it this way."
1402
01:17:58,396 --> 01:18:01,317
"If I didn't have any art around
me, I couldn't breathe."
1403
01:18:01,357 --> 01:18:01,942
You know?
1404
01:18:01,982 --> 01:18:06,071
I look at the value of art by
imagining that it wasn't around.
1405
01:18:06,111 --> 01:18:07,865
There's the value of it.
1406
01:18:07,905 --> 01:18:11,244
It's like water, you know,
air, you know,
1407
01:18:11,284 --> 01:18:12,870
I couldn't breathe without it.
1408
01:18:12,910 --> 01:18:15,748
And they said,
"No, apply an actual figure"
1409
01:18:15,788 --> 01:18:17,082
"or something like that."
1410
01:18:17,122 --> 01:18:19,166
So I said, "I just did."
1411
01:18:25,464 --> 01:18:26,675
David has taken a place
1412
01:18:26,715 --> 01:18:29,637
that really represents the chaos
and the confusion
1413
01:18:29,677 --> 01:18:34,473
of the human mind
and put flowers in there.
1414
01:18:35,766 --> 01:18:36,644
You know, the first thing
you see
1415
01:18:36,684 --> 01:18:41,106
is this, kind of, incredible,
colourful creatures everywhere
1416
01:18:41,146 --> 01:18:45,278
and it was just this...
from the dark to the light
1417
01:18:45,318 --> 01:18:48,196
walking through
those front gates.
1418
01:18:48,237 --> 01:18:49,782
[gentle acoustic guitar
music plays]
1419
01:18:49,822 --> 01:18:54,910
♪ Goodbye my
Santa Monica dream ♪♪
1420
01:18:57,037 --> 01:19:01,376
♪ 15 kids, in the backyard
drinking wine ♪
1421
01:19:01,416 --> 01:19:04,379
In the jail, we're putting
plants in a lot of the cells,
1422
01:19:04,419 --> 01:19:11,009
so just bringing them in here,
getting them used to the lights.
1423
01:19:14,555 --> 01:19:18,517
!♪ And the ones you left behind
1424
01:19:19,059 --> 01:19:23,105
Dad just was the hugest reader.
1425
01:19:26,442 --> 01:19:28,403
That's my beautiful dad.
1426
01:19:28,443 --> 01:19:29,987
[sniffles]
1427
01:19:30,404 --> 01:19:34,410
What do they say, the apple fell
a fair way from the tree?
1428
01:19:34,450 --> 01:19:38,746
Occasionally, people say,
"You look like your dad."
1429
01:19:40,373 --> 01:19:43,125
Me, my brother and my dad.
1430
01:19:47,546 --> 01:19:48,757
That's the last box
1431
01:19:48,797 --> 01:19:52,428
I undid years, years after they
were all dead.
1432
01:19:52,468 --> 01:19:56,431
I stop and say hello to them
nearly every day.
1433
01:19:56,471 --> 01:19:57,806
[sniffles]
1434
01:20:03,020 --> 01:20:05,649
Mum gets a bad rap, you know,
from me
1435
01:20:05,689 --> 01:20:07,860
because Dad was the
apple of my eye.
1436
01:20:07,900 --> 01:20:13,491
But Mum was good when...
when the shit really came down.
1437
01:20:13,531 --> 01:20:18,076
You know, I used to wish
that she was more that person.
1438
01:20:19,036 --> 01:20:21,415
You know, when my brother
was dying,
1439
01:20:21,455 --> 01:20:25,085
and we had to turn off
his life support,
1440
01:20:25,125 --> 01:20:28,797
you know, as anything that was
still keeping him alive
1441
01:20:28,837 --> 01:20:29,882
was still in there,
1442
01:20:29,922 --> 01:20:31,800
my mum just called out
and she said,
1443
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,263
"Look, Paul was so gregarious
and so outgoing,
1444
01:20:36,303 --> 01:20:40,476
"I think the last sound
he should hear is cheering.
1445
01:20:40,516 --> 01:20:41,810
Let's cheer him out."
1446
01:20:41,850 --> 01:20:43,896
And then she just roared
at the top of her voice,
1447
01:20:43,936 --> 01:20:47,482
you know, just saying, you know,
"Here's cheers for Paul."
1448
01:20:47,522 --> 01:20:51,194
And I always think,
"You fucking beautiful woman."
1449
01:20:51,234 --> 01:20:54,948
Like, he would've
gone out to, like,
1450
01:20:54,988 --> 01:20:59,494
"Yeah, Paul, yeah, yay!"
1451
01:20:59,534 --> 01:21:04,582
I believe a nice way to be
going out, you know?
1452
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:08,587
♪ I could call you
on the telephone ♪
1453
01:21:08,627 --> 01:21:10,631
My brother was
a technical genius
1454
01:21:10,671 --> 01:21:11,549
who could build everything,
1455
01:21:11,589 --> 01:21:13,175
but I think I got my dad's...
1456
01:21:13,215 --> 01:21:13,842
Let's put it this way.
1457
01:21:13,882 --> 01:21:16,219
If Dad built a pergola
or something,
1458
01:21:16,259 --> 01:21:20,515
walking under it was probably
not the best idea.
1459
01:21:20,555 --> 01:21:23,727
On the weekend,
he used to collect old tools
1460
01:21:23,767 --> 01:21:28,897
and these are all his
old fold-out rulers.
1461
01:21:31,817 --> 01:21:34,152
Man, I loved my dad.
1462
01:21:35,570 --> 01:21:39,410
♪ I'm somewhere
1463
01:21:39,450 --> 01:21:41,536
♪ You're somewhere
1464
01:21:41,576 --> 01:21:43,706
You know, I always remember him
saying to me,
1465
01:21:43,746 --> 01:21:47,084
you know, he was frail,
doing up this old house
1466
01:21:47,124 --> 01:21:48,126
and he was incapable of it,
1467
01:21:48,166 --> 01:21:50,671
and he just said,
"David, you've gotta understand,
1468
01:21:50,711 --> 01:21:53,882
"what you're looking at
is not me, it's frailty.
1469
01:21:53,922 --> 01:21:54,592
It's not me."
1470
01:21:54,632 --> 01:21:56,552
When did this happen?
It happened so fast?
1471
01:21:56,592 --> 01:21:58,095
He said,
"You've gotta understand"
1472
01:21:58,135 --> 01:22:01,847
"that I'm just still
a little boy."
1473
01:22:01,930 --> 01:22:02,725
And I just think, you know,
1474
01:22:02,765 --> 01:22:06,520
maybe we should listen to that
little boy a little bit more...
1475
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,562
Or that little girl.
1476
01:22:07,602 --> 01:22:09,690
You know, I don't know when
people stopped
1477
01:22:09,730 --> 01:22:11,732
being that in their life.
1478
01:22:15,528 --> 01:22:20,741
♪ 15 kids, in the backyard
drinking wine ♪
1479
01:22:22,993 --> 01:22:29,166
♪ You tell me stories
of this faith ♪
1480
01:22:29,624 --> 01:22:31,960
Whoo!
1481
01:22:32,252 --> 01:22:36,383
♪ And the ones we left behind
1482
01:22:36,423 --> 01:22:38,886
The reason I'm actually gonna
take 15 minutes
1483
01:22:38,926 --> 01:22:42,640
to actually get in
is, in all seriously,
1484
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,726
I am scared I'm gonna die if I
jump straight in
1485
01:22:45,766 --> 01:22:53,148
which would be really frickin'
cool for the documentary, but...
1486
01:22:53,524 --> 01:22:54,276
It ended abruptly!
1487
01:22:54,316 --> 01:22:57,988
Yeah, that's it, exactly, yeah.
How'd he die?
1488
01:22:58,028 --> 01:23:00,949
Oh, just watch the end
of the documentary.
1489
01:23:00,989 --> 01:23:04,119
How did his children handle it
and his wife?
1490
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:06,495
Just watch, they were there.
1491
01:23:07,245 --> 01:23:07,915
Oh!
1492
01:23:07,955 --> 01:23:15,548
Seriously! Just say just go in!
Oh! It's cruel!
1493
01:23:15,588 --> 01:23:19,217
Well, actually, no-one's
asked me but myself to go in,
1494
01:23:19,257 --> 01:23:21,844
and now my back's cramping up.
1495
01:23:23,178 --> 01:23:24,848
Don't, please, don't.
1496
01:23:24,888 --> 01:23:29,643
She's the one to watch out for,
the splasher.
1497
01:23:30,352 --> 01:23:31,229
Fuck!
1498
01:23:31,269 --> 01:23:34,482
Oh! Oh! Oh, I'm co...
1499
01:23:34,523 --> 01:23:36,692
Oh, it's so horrible!
1500
01:23:39,277 --> 01:23:41,865
-Oh!
-Wow.
1501
01:23:41,905 --> 01:23:44,074
Brain freeze!
1502
01:23:44,575 --> 01:23:45,951
Oh!
1503
01:23:46,994 --> 01:23:47,871
[shouts in discomfort]
1504
01:23:47,911 --> 01:23:49,788
What noise was that?
1505
01:23:52,290 --> 01:23:54,501
[kid squeals]
1506
01:23:56,044 --> 01:23:59,506
[gentle acoustic music plays]
1507
01:24:00,423 --> 01:24:02,845
I have never met another person
1508
01:24:02,885 --> 01:24:07,766
who lives with his eyes open
as much as I have with David.
1509
01:24:07,806 --> 01:24:14,106
Whether it's to do with people,
art, ideas, creation,
1510
01:24:14,146 --> 01:24:15,690
it's how he lives.
1511
01:24:15,730 --> 01:24:18,569
He's taught me
to have my mind open
1512
01:24:18,609 --> 01:24:24,783
to go on that journey to broaden
that vision of life is.
1513
01:24:24,823 --> 01:24:28,536
♪ 25 years
and my life is still ♪
1514
01:24:28,577 --> 01:24:34,750
♪ Trying to get up this
great big hill of hope ♪
1515
01:24:35,959 --> 01:24:39,006
♪ For a destination
1516
01:24:39,046 --> 01:24:41,008
He is both
the most giving person
1517
01:24:41,048 --> 01:24:42,509
that I think I've come across,
1518
01:24:42,549 --> 01:24:45,638
and giving not just in
material things,
1519
01:24:45,678 --> 01:24:46,805
but of himself,
1520
01:24:46,845 --> 01:24:48,140
of his
knowledge, of his creativity.
1521
01:24:48,180 --> 01:24:51,767
He's a giver,
an extraordinary giver.
1522
01:24:52,225 --> 01:24:54,479
♪ For whatever that means
1523
01:24:54,519 --> 01:24:56,106
I don't think he finds life easy
1524
01:24:56,146 --> 01:25:00,736
but he's determined not to
succumb to that.
1525
01:25:00,776 --> 01:25:01,987
You know, it's part of
his process
1526
01:25:02,027 --> 01:25:05,741
about rising to the occasion
on a daily basis.
1527
01:25:05,781 --> 01:25:06,241
God!
1528
01:25:06,281 --> 01:25:11,620
♪ I'm feeling
a little peculiar ♪
1529
01:25:14,748 --> 01:25:20,087
I don't know how many layers
are on my shoes but
1530
01:25:21,004 --> 01:25:25,175
I love,
at the end of the day,
1531
01:25:25,801 --> 01:25:27,304
givin' 'em a
1532
01:25:27,344 --> 01:25:29,262
givin' 'em a clean-up.
1533
01:25:30,180 --> 01:25:31,932
My trousers, too.
1534
01:25:32,725 --> 01:25:33,977
A lot of people wouldn't think
1535
01:25:34,017 --> 01:25:37,522
that David is somebody who
struggles,
1536
01:25:37,562 --> 01:25:40,108
especially someone with a laugh
as big as his.
1537
01:25:40,148 --> 01:25:43,361
You know, I think he manages
so beautifully
1538
01:25:43,401 --> 01:25:48,826
and I think he's so much more
aware of how much he has to lose
1539
01:25:48,866 --> 01:25:54,206
now that he's got a real sense
of fight in him
1540
01:25:54,246 --> 01:25:57,459
that I don't think existed
in the same way
1541
01:25:57,499 --> 01:25:58,376
when he was younger.
1542
01:25:58,416 --> 01:26:01,546
And that's due in part to Yuge
and to the kids
1543
01:26:01,586 --> 01:26:07,678
and all of the wonderful things
that he has in his life.
1544
01:26:07,718 --> 01:26:09,678
Hey!
1545
01:26:17,102 --> 01:26:18,105
♪ And I try
1546
01:26:18,145 --> 01:26:20,148
We talk about it all the time,
1547
01:26:20,188 --> 01:26:21,524
that what we are doing
1548
01:26:21,564 --> 01:26:25,487
is essentially in hope that one
of our kids,
1549
01:26:25,527 --> 01:26:28,656
or all of our kids,
would like to take over one day.
1550
01:26:28,697 --> 01:26:31,952
That would be an absolute
dream of ours,
1551
01:26:31,992 --> 01:26:33,828
and, if they want to,
1552
01:26:33,868 --> 01:26:37,165
through being exposed to it from
an early age,
1553
01:26:37,205 --> 01:26:39,459
then that would be magical.
1554
01:26:39,499 --> 01:26:43,296
♪ Every single day ♪♪
1555
01:26:43,336 --> 01:26:46,589
What a nice day to be outside!
1556
01:26:47,382 --> 01:26:48,343
[laughter]
1557
01:26:48,383 --> 01:26:52,723
♪ So I cry sometimes
when I'm lying in bed ♪
1558
01:26:52,763 --> 01:26:56,518
If I could tell you how happy
I am about being alive,
1559
01:26:56,558 --> 01:26:57,936
there's just no vocabulary
1560
01:26:57,976 --> 01:27:02,315
to turn around and say just how
fuckin' much I love life.
1561
01:27:02,355 --> 01:27:05,235
Like, it's embarrassing,
you know?
1562
01:27:05,275 --> 01:27:07,862
I'm wet-my-pants excited
1563
01:27:07,902 --> 01:27:11,033
by virtually every minute of
every day.
1564
01:27:11,073 --> 01:27:13,158
It's fucking glorious.
1565
01:27:13,283 --> 01:27:14,702
I just... I love my life
so much.
1566
01:27:14,743 --> 01:27:17,205
I love my wife so much.
I love my kids so much.
1567
01:27:17,245 --> 01:27:19,207
I love my mates.
I love what I do.
1568
01:27:19,247 --> 01:27:21,876
I love the air.
I love the sky. I'm...
1569
01:27:21,916 --> 01:27:24,922
Like, there is absolutely
no doubt
1570
01:27:24,962 --> 01:27:27,549
that I've got a certain
brain damage,
1571
01:27:27,589 --> 01:27:30,218
something's pressing on
a part of my brain
1572
01:27:30,258 --> 01:27:31,719
where I absolutely love it,
1573
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,515
and I think that's why
I'm so cut when, you know,
1574
01:27:35,555 --> 01:27:37,517
I'm hurting deeply or something,
1575
01:27:37,557 --> 01:27:42,687
but maybe that's also why I
appreciate it so much.
1576
01:27:44,356 --> 01:27:45,941
♪ I said hey
1577
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,695
♪ What's going on?
1578
01:27:48,735 --> 01:27:51,364
They call Matisse
the painter of light.
1579
01:27:51,404 --> 01:27:53,366
But he said
it took a lot of darkness
1580
01:27:53,406 --> 01:27:56,494
for him to be the
painter of light, and I...
1581
01:27:56,534 --> 01:28:00,123
You know, I want to be a bit of
a painter of joy or light,
1582
01:28:00,163 --> 01:28:05,085
but I don't just want it
to come from darkness.
1583
01:28:08,130 --> 01:28:11,718
♪ 25 years
and my life is still ♪
1584
01:28:11,758 --> 01:28:17,972
♪ Trying to get up the
great big hill of hope ♪
1585
01:28:18,973 --> 01:28:22,895
♪ For a destination
1586
01:28:42,455 --> 01:28:48,463
♪ Don't be concerned
about your car not working ♪
1587
01:28:48,503 --> 01:28:50,507
♪ Boy, you're losing it ♪
1588
01:28:50,547 --> 01:28:56,847
!♪ Don't be confused about these
games you're playing ♪
1589
01:28:56,887 --> 01:28:59,182
♪ You are choosing it ♪
1590
01:28:59,222 --> 01:29:04,561
♪ Leave it alone now,
just need time ♪
1591
01:29:04,644 --> 01:29:07,440
♪ Time
1592
01:29:07,480 --> 01:29:12,820
♪ Leave it alone now,
you will find ♪
1593
01:29:12,861 --> 01:29:15,073
♪ Find
1594
01:29:15,113 --> 01:29:20,913
♪ We all have the lightness
to be OK ♪♪
1595
01:29:20,953 --> 01:29:23,665
♪ OK, OK for now ♪
1596
01:29:23,705 --> 01:29:29,379
♪ We all have the lightness
to be OK ♪
1597
01:29:29,419 --> 01:29:33,048
♪ OK, OK for now ♪♪
1598
01:29:34,799 --> 01:29:41,099
♪ Don't be concerned about
your job not working out ♪
1599
01:29:41,139 --> 01:29:42,809
♪ You will figure out ♪
1600
01:29:42,849 --> 01:29:47,021
♪ Every moment will pass
in a moment ♪♪
1601
01:29:47,061 --> 01:29:51,776
♪ Everything that you need
will be open ♪
1602
01:29:51,816 --> 01:29:57,199
♪ Leave it alone now,
you just need time ♪
1603
01:29:57,239 --> 01:30:00,243
♪ Time
1604
01:30:00,283 --> 01:30:05,457
♪ Leave it alone now,
you will find ♪
1605
01:30:05,497 --> 01:30:07,918
♪ Find ♪
1606
01:30:07,958 --> 01:30:13,381
♪ We all have the lightness
to be OK ♪
1607
01:30:13,421 --> 01:30:16,176
♪ OK, OK for now ♪
1608
01:30:16,216 --> 01:30:21,848
♪ We all have the lightness
to be OK ♪
1609
01:30:21,888 --> 01:30:25,600
♪ OK, OK for now ♪
1610
01:30:26,935 --> 01:30:33,108
♪ Love is all we needed
to be here for ♪
1611
01:30:35,235 --> 01:30:41,533
♪ Love is all we needed
to be here for ♪
1612
01:30:43,410 --> 01:30:45,622
So, Sean,
you're doing a documentary.
1613
01:30:45,662 --> 01:30:46,957
What does that entail?
1614
01:30:46,997 --> 01:30:48,083
All of the Bromleys saying,
1615
01:30:48,123 --> 01:30:49,960
"Look at me do this, look at me
do that."
1616
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:50,502
[Yuge laughing]
1617
01:30:50,542 --> 01:30:55,129
"Look at our dog, look at our
dog running through the grass."
1618
01:30:55,505 --> 01:30:57,842
Actually, he is...he's...
1619
01:30:57,882 --> 01:30:59,427
I'm telling you,
he'll just love it.
1620
01:30:59,467 --> 01:31:04,182
['Peer Gynt - Suite No. 1, Op.
46' by Edvarg Grieg plays]
1621
01:31:04,222 --> 01:31:06,058
[laughter]
1622
01:31:06,641 --> 01:31:09,103
Fuck you, guys,
you're always hanging around!
1623
01:31:09,143 --> 01:31:13,316
I don't even know who you are!
Very invasive!
1624
01:31:13,356 --> 01:31:15,442
From the council.
1625
01:31:16,443 --> 01:31:18,987
[mock screams]
1626
01:31:19,153 --> 01:31:23,033
This is me crying.
[mock screams]
1627
01:31:25,827 --> 01:31:27,539
Sean, you know what's happened?
1628
01:31:27,579 --> 01:31:28,206
You know what's happened
1629
01:31:28,246 --> 01:31:29,541
with all the years of hanging
around me?
1630
01:31:29,581 --> 01:31:31,709
-What's that?
-You've become an art critic.
1631
01:31:31,749 --> 01:31:34,586
-Yeah!
-Come here, come here.
1632
01:31:35,378 --> 01:31:38,923
Hello, hello, hello, hello!
[singsong voice]
1633
01:31:41,384 --> 01:31:42,762
-OK.
-Right.
1634
01:31:42,802 --> 01:31:43,388
Where are we going?
1635
01:31:43,428 --> 01:31:47,141
Going to look at the patterns
and hopefully finding the Milo.
1636
01:31:47,181 --> 01:31:49,394
Your Milo. I know where
my Milo is.
1637
01:31:49,434 --> 01:31:50,144
Oh, there's mine!
1638
01:31:50,184 --> 01:31:52,147
No, that's actually mi...
Oh, yeah.
1639
01:31:52,187 --> 01:31:55,523
That's mine. -Mine's on that side.
-That's my Milo!
1640
01:31:58,818 --> 01:32:03,325
Sean! This is what happens
when your film is a flop.
1641
01:32:03,365 --> 01:32:06,493
Off with your head
and in the cabinet!
1642
01:32:08,328 --> 01:32:11,458
[laughter]
You're cute!
1643
01:32:11,498 --> 01:32:14,626
Yes, little red blobby man.
1644
01:32:15,627 --> 01:32:20,050
Oh, you haven't seen Dave's
amazing big artworks up here!
1645
01:32:20,090 --> 01:32:24,054
Come have a look.
Oh, they're so nice.
1646
01:32:24,094 --> 01:32:24,637
What is the crab?
1647
01:32:24,677 --> 01:32:31,018
Oh... It's actually a French
sculptor called... Ooh, shit!
1648
01:32:31,059 --> 01:32:32,602
Are you OK, Sean?
1649
01:32:33,770 --> 01:32:36,356
I was going in for the crab.
1650
01:33:26,614 --> 01:33:30,493
[taps a gentle melody]
1651
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:39,794
[taps melodically]
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