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Hap, do you
want some calming music?
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Do you prefer it quiet?
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You prefer the quiet?
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Okay.
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You want the pen?
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No?
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You wanna show me something?
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This is in the way?
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Okay.
Do you want me to move this?
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It's fine here?
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Okay, can I hold your hand
for a minute?
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What?
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Can I hold your hand?
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There we go.
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Hap, I'm sorry it's so difficult
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to communicate right now.
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And I hope
your body's intelligence
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can bring you back.
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And I have no understanding
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of what your body is
going through right now.
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I'm doing my best, okay?
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All right,
so let's take a moment
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to get ourselves centered
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and ready, bringing your
energy across the boundary
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into this time and space.
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You're welcome
to close your eyes
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or let your eyes
fall in front of you.
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And I would just invite you
to check in with yourself
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at the center of your being.
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What are you feeling?
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What is your experience?
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Could be anger, grief,
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distraction.
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And when you're ready, you can
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slowly lift your eyes
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and begin to make eye
contact around the room
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and just let the group
know when you're here.
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Here.
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I'm here.
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I'm here.
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I'm here.
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Okay, so the
table is open if anybody
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wants to share their experience.
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Would you guys
mind if I went first?
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All right.
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So I just had the call
at noon for the family,
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the patient I've been following
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for probably
four or five visits now.
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Patient took a turn
for the worse yesterday
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and now is actively dying.
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So, yeah, that's what I'm
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coming to the group with today.
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So, Michele, take
a moment to really connect
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because you're holding a lot.
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You're holding a lot
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and I want you to be able to
bring in the experience
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that you're having right now.
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So as you close your
eyes, as you look down,
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what are you feeling
inside of yourself?
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I think kind of two
things are coming to me.
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One is sadness and the
other is just feeling
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a little bit of helplessness
at being in a system
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that, pardon my language,
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but creates kind of a really
shitty experience for people
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at the end of life.
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He's just in this nondescript
room on a medicine floor,
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spending the last few hours
of his life.
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Yeah, and I'm wondering
about if helplessness is,
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when you start to elaborate,
I get a sense for your anger.
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Yeah, there's anger underneath.
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Okay, let's see
if you can get a subgroup.
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You can just say anybody else.
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Anybody else?
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That was a lot.
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So the subgroup
is really around the anger,
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the frustration.
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It doesn't have to be
about patient experiences,
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could be about anything.
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I can join you
in your frustration and anger
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because of my experience
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of not being able
to see my mother
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in a hospital when she was dying
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because of COVID restrictions.
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I was very angry,
I was very frustrated.
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I can join you.
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Yeah.
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And what's your
experience right now, Fumiko?
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Let me go, let me go
see my mom, so that's...
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- Okay.
- Let me hold her hand.
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Good, good.
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Anybody else?
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Fumiko, I hear, um...
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loss of agency.
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The feeling of hitting
a wall and trying to like
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just get to the person
you love or...
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to the place
that your heart wants to be.
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I... I can join in...
in feeling, um...
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stunted or blocked
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by something out of my control.
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Yeah, I just wanted
to reflect that back.
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I don't know that
I fully grasped it, but...
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I think that's
what I said, thank you.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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There's an old adage,
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"Don't just stand there,
do something."
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And we flip that.
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We say,
"Don't just do something,
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stand there," or "be there."
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Because there's connection
and healing in that.
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Thank you forcalling Pacific Interpreters.
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This is Katherine. I'll beyour Polish interpreter today.
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This call may be monitoredfor training and quality.
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Are you calling from themain hospital or from FPA?
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From the main hospital.
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May I haveyour employee number please?
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829-8613.
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- Okay?
- Okay, hi.
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Hi, so my name is Margaret,
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I'm a chaplain
here at Mount Sinai.
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I offer spiritual care
and emotional support
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to our patients.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, if I wake up tomorrow.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How are you feeling right now?
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- On 19?
- 18.
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18. Sunita B.
Same step down.
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So the first name
I didn't catch.
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- Sunita.
- No, for eight. Eight.
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So eight is Nagafna.
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How is the 24 now?
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Not ready
yet, that's why I'm asking...
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- Okay, okay.
I'll go later, that's okay.
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And I'm Margaret.
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Oh, hi Margaret.
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Hi, oh, now I get it.
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I thought I saw someone
on the job.
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- Yeah.
- Okay.
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Hi, can I come in?
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Can I close the door?
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What are you
making of your diagnosis?
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How are you relating to it?
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I have a distance from it.
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- Yeah?
- It's like, okay, it's this,
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but I don't know what that
means, on a living level.
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What do you mean?
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So they have this diagnosis of
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adenocarcinoma.
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Which is a fancy
way to say lung cancer?
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A particular kind
of lung cancer.
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- Okay.
- Okay.
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What does that mean?
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I know my life is gonna change,
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but I don't know how and
what, you know, in what ways?
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So I really have...
sort of waiting to see,
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and yeah,
my intention is to live,
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but I also want a certain
quality in my life, so...
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I really do have
to wait and see.
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I have to be in this moment
and go to the next moment,
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the next moment, and I'm
very clear from my past
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that it will be revealed to me.
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It is revealed.
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And then I'll know, do
this, don't do that.
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Do that, don't do this,
you know.
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The mechanics of it
will be taken care of.
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But that's mechanical.
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Yeah.
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What I'm looking for is...
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and there's a question
of blame here and guilt
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'cause I did smoke.
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I was gonna
ask you about that one.
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Twenty-five years, so
on one level it's like
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this is the consequence
of your behavior.
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My mother smoked
for much longer than I.
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She didn't get lung cancer.
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My brother smoked for longer.
He didn't get lung cancer.
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And you quit for...
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And I quit for 30 years
and I get lung cancer.
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That's what's so...
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Yeah.
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So... I am
looking at this whole
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question of unfairness.
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I wanted to ask you,
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and you might wanna take
time to think about this one,
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but a question that's been
percolating for me to ask you
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is what are you most proud of
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in your life?
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Because you've lived
such a thoughtful life.
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I've been true to myself.
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- Your integrity.
- My integrity, yeah.
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Been true to myself.
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Wherever it led I went.
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Crazy as it was,
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you know.
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Okay, no this is not the
way, let's go this way.
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And so maybe this comes back
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to the question before,
that decision making, right,
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because that's where our
integrity might be questioned
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or, you know, shaped further.
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Yeah.
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How do you know when
you're acting with integrity?
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What are you listening to
inside of yourself?
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Oh, inside of myself
I know for sure.
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There's a kind of knowing
in my solar plexus.
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When I'm like, not sure,
it's like:
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so that gives me that clue.
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And the other thing I do,
'cause I have,
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I discovered as an adult,
I have ADHD.
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'Cause I, there's a list
of things and I said,
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Oh, I have all of those.
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And so I've learned with
meditation and stuff,
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slow it down, pay attention.
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Those are things I focus on.
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So when you feel settled.
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- Yeah.
- And steady.
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- Then I can make a decision.
- Yeah.
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Or the decision comes,
it's just like, this is it.
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I heard you say before, like,
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there's like a small voice.
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- Yeah, definitely.
- That told you to get out
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of that relationship.
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Like a small quiet voice.
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The still small voice
does come to me.
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Still small voice, yeah.
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So we're going to be
looking out for that now.
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- Now, right.
- Right?
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That's what I'm looking for,
and I'll know when I hear it.
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Right.
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So no being told to go
faster, quicker than you...
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That's really, I'm usually
pushed along by everybody.
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This is really interesting
for me to see myself go,
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"You're not letting them
push you around."
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You're sticking up for yourself?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So that's kind of exciting.
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I think so.
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So going slow.
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- Yeah, going slow.
- To hear yourself.
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Yeah, yes.
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- And maintain the integrity.
- Yes.
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- Thank you.
- Your own pace.
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I go at my own pace in order
to hear my own small voice.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah I have patients to call,
but I'm not in the mood yet.
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I think I'm like
running on empty.
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It's maybe like one o'clock,
I don't know.
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From your role as my
supervisor and, you know,
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the time that has gone by,
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where would you like to see
me next in terms of growth?
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What talents have come
through or certain skill sets
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either that you would want
to be improved on or like,
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just like, where would you
put me next
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if you had like any say
or choice in that
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from what you've seen of me?
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I'm thinking about your
emotional boundaries.
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A lot gets through and
that can really drain you,
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deplete you, and I think um...
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whatever you can do
to try to close
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those boundaries
a little bit more
262
00:20:56,757 --> 00:20:59,133
so a little bit less
gets through.
263
00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:02,545
So it's not an all or nothing,
it's not open or closed.
264
00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:06,633
It's how open, how closed
are those boundaries.
265
00:21:06,683 --> 00:21:09,268
So you can manage your empathy.
266
00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:13,815
I feel it within me
267
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that I wanna
go deeper or further
268
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or go in this direction and,
269
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:25,035
ah... should I,
or should I not
270
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:27,947
at this point?
271
00:21:27,997 --> 00:21:30,240
And what are the risks
and what are the rewards?
272
00:21:30,290 --> 00:21:32,125
What's the potential fallout?
273
00:21:33,877 --> 00:21:36,078
Because it seems like what's
lurking in the background
274
00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:38,132
is what is the price
that you will pay
275
00:21:39,090 --> 00:21:40,550
in terms of exhaustion?
276
00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:45,422
There's a lot of effort
that goes into holding back,
277
00:21:45,472 --> 00:21:48,800
and there's a lot of effort
that goes into saying it
278
00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:52,137
and then dealing with what
comes after it's said.
279
00:21:52,187 --> 00:21:55,557
So it's not... I say that to
acknowledge the challenge,
280
00:21:55,607 --> 00:21:57,858
the difficulty
of either direction.
281
00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:02,813
And that's gonna live
on beyond the residency,
282
00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:04,942
I think, and that's
not a failure
283
00:22:04,992 --> 00:22:06,150
of yours or the residency.
284
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,735
I think it's just one of those
285
00:22:07,785 --> 00:22:10,905
larger issues that we all,
if we're lucky,
286
00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:13,117
we identify them
at some point and we say,
287
00:22:13,167 --> 00:22:15,243
Oh, okay, this is one
of those long-term things
288
00:22:15,293 --> 00:22:19,080
that I'm just gonna have
to continue to grapple with
289
00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:21,467
and develop over the long haul.
290
00:22:23,093 --> 00:22:25,837
Would it be possible
for me to ask you to
291
00:22:25,887 --> 00:22:28,423
keep an eye
on that learning goal,
292
00:22:28,473 --> 00:22:32,218
and kind of
be more forward with me
293
00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:35,888
where you see me doing that well
294
00:22:35,938 --> 00:22:39,042
or like where I could
have been tighter.
295
00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:40,128
I hear that.
296
00:22:40,153 --> 00:22:41,728
And the feedback could be harsh.
297
00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:46,650
Don't be, like,
soft on me there, okay?
298
00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:49,987
Okay, yeah, yeah,
well, yeah, I mean,
299
00:22:50,037 --> 00:22:53,448
I don't know that I...
It's hard for me to get harsh,
300
00:22:53,498 --> 00:22:56,325
so I don't think you have
to worry about harsh.
301
00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:59,620
I think what I'm hearing
you say is
302
00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:03,333
Step it up on the feedback
in this specific area.
303
00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:05,385
- Yeah.
- Give me more.
304
00:23:14,352 --> 00:23:15,970
I'm so terrible at this.
305
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,513
Run in circles.
306
00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:19,775
- I love it.
- Or I'm the best!
307
00:23:23,278 --> 00:23:25,397
There you go.
308
00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:27,323
How many of these do we have?
309
00:23:29,827 --> 00:23:31,745
That's pinball.
310
00:23:34,205 --> 00:23:36,165
Watch that second bounce.
311
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,495
How's the morning been going?
312
00:23:40,545 --> 00:23:43,707
Anything from the weekend,
313
00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:46,167
anything of note
for the week ahead?
314
00:23:46,217 --> 00:23:47,677
Mati, you want to start us off?
315
00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:51,005
I mean, Thursday night...
316
00:23:51,055 --> 00:23:54,717
You had a big case in the PICU
317
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:59,638
and I read there was...
That was huge, yeah.
318
00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:03,435
So an 11-month-old
came in for surgery
319
00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:05,645
and unexpectedly died
320
00:24:05,695 --> 00:24:07,280
in the operating room.
321
00:24:08,157 --> 00:24:10,108
Yeah,
the parents were 17 years old.
322
00:24:10,158 --> 00:24:11,242
Oh my gosh.
323
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,250
It was heavy.
324
00:24:20,647 --> 00:24:22,795
So yeah,
that was part of my weekend.
325
00:24:23,838 --> 00:24:24,998
Yeah.
326
00:24:25,048 --> 00:24:27,583
Thank you for going
and being there
327
00:24:27,633 --> 00:24:28,710
and just so you know,
328
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,672
there was so many emails that
night and the next morning.
329
00:24:32,722 --> 00:24:34,507
I appreciated getting
to read your chart note
330
00:24:34,557 --> 00:24:37,010
and having all the
information at my fingertips.
331
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:38,520
So thank you so much.
332
00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:07,215
- Hey, all right.
- All right.
333
00:25:08,717 --> 00:25:10,510
- Okay.
- Okay, all right.
334
00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:14,890
I'd like to look at the
calendar and see if we can get
335
00:25:15,765 --> 00:25:20,553
more frequent consultations
scheduled.
336
00:25:20,603 --> 00:25:23,390
We're, you know, we're
meeting pretty infrequently
337
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,900
and I'd like to meet more,
if possible.
338
00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:28,193
That would be great.
339
00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:30,905
Okay. Cool.
340
00:25:31,823 --> 00:25:32,733
So why don't we take a moment
341
00:25:32,783 --> 00:25:33,968
and get ourselves centered then.
342
00:25:33,992 --> 00:25:35,577
Okay, sounds good.
343
00:25:37,162 --> 00:25:39,915
Yeah, just take
a couple breaths.
344
00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:45,253
Feet on the floor.
345
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:47,705
And gathering up your energy
346
00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:49,925
and bringing it to this context.
347
00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:57,382
So are you here?
348
00:25:57,432 --> 00:25:58,467
I'm here.
349
00:25:58,517 --> 00:26:00,010
- Great.
- Yeah.
350
00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,020
- Me too.
- Good, good.
351
00:26:03,187 --> 00:26:04,187
Okay.
352
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:08,017
One of my primary
goals for all of this work
353
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:12,355
is to... just really,
sit a little more easily
354
00:26:12,405 --> 00:26:15,033
in the...
in the role of authority.
355
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:16,908
Okay.
356
00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:19,578
Yeah.
357
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,080
You know, I don't know,
358
00:26:21,122 --> 00:26:22,683
I'm just gonna associate
here for a moment,
359
00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:26,243
but what comes to mind
is my first supervisor...
360
00:26:26,293 --> 00:26:28,755
I was telling somebody
the other day...
361
00:26:29,713 --> 00:26:31,207
who I, you know, I still love
362
00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:33,427
to this day and respect greatly.
363
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,222
Some of the approaches
were really threatening.
364
00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:43,770
You know, it was like I
saw him walk out angrily.
365
00:26:44,895 --> 00:26:45,895
Hmm.
366
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,308
- I s...
- So that kind of provocative...
367
00:26:48,358 --> 00:26:50,852
- Okay.
- Yeah, yeah, I saw,
368
00:26:50,902 --> 00:26:52,921
I don't know if it was him
or one of the other educators,
369
00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:55,857
but ripping up a verbatim
at some point.
370
00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:59,152
Just kind of tossing it back
to the student, This is crap.
371
00:26:59,202 --> 00:27:00,278
Whoa, whoa.
372
00:27:00,328 --> 00:27:02,280
You know, that kind of thing.
373
00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:04,950
And then with my
first presentation,
374
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,153
I was very nervous and guarded
and my supervisor said,
375
00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:11,231
"You're really
guarded right now.
376
00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:13,333
I don't know if I should
tear down your guard
377
00:27:13,383 --> 00:27:14,633
or let you take it down."
378
00:27:15,718 --> 00:27:16,904
And in that moment I was like,
379
00:27:16,928 --> 00:27:18,196
Oh, well, I don't want
him to tear it down,
380
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:20,283
I'll do it myself. So I said,
"I'll just do it myself."
381
00:27:20,307 --> 00:27:22,800
And I, you know,
proceeded and tried to,
382
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:24,310
you know, be more vulnerable.
383
00:27:24,768 --> 00:27:26,038
But looking back on that,
I mean that,
384
00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:29,273
that was, it was
a threatening intervention.
385
00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:34,353
Certain actions
were modeled for me
386
00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:37,982
and that's sort of
the range of options,
387
00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:40,402
you know,
yelling and walking out.
388
00:27:40,452 --> 00:27:41,820
Yelling and walking out.
389
00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:44,947
And that being, like,
what is the point of that?
390
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:47,783
The point is, I think,
391
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:51,170
to be one up
rather than one down.
392
00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:54,548
That's not how I wanna be
in this role.
393
00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:59,587
Yeah, I had a student
once who said...
394
00:27:59,637 --> 00:28:01,547
This was pretty cool.
She said,
395
00:28:01,597 --> 00:28:05,052
she wanted to see me
like the black belt
396
00:28:05,102 --> 00:28:08,938
and she knew she could throw
punches and it wouldn't hurt.
397
00:28:10,815 --> 00:28:13,602
I thought it was
a really great image of...
398
00:28:13,652 --> 00:28:14,935
Yeah.
399
00:28:14,985 --> 00:28:19,648
You know, like a child in
a karate class, you know,
400
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,527
and the sensei like really,
401
00:28:22,577 --> 00:28:25,405
you know, firm and comfortable.
402
00:28:25,455 --> 00:28:28,408
Muscles in their belly,
you can kick...
403
00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:32,287
Yeah, relaxed and know that
it's aiding the development
404
00:28:32,337 --> 00:28:35,457
of the student, to do this
sparring and whatnot.
405
00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:36,750
Exactly right.
406
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,377
So really I do hear
the next step, David,
407
00:28:39,427 --> 00:28:41,128
is to be able to do the work
408
00:28:41,178 --> 00:28:44,215
to be in your authority, right?
409
00:28:44,265 --> 00:28:45,925
Yeah. Yeah.
410
00:28:45,975 --> 00:28:48,302
Fully. You can have
your full experience
411
00:28:48,352 --> 00:28:51,355
and you're not gonna be
destroyed by the student.
412
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,348
Right.
413
00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:54,892
And you're not gonna be a bully
414
00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:56,652
that you have to
destroy her either.
415
00:28:57,487 --> 00:28:59,105
Yep, that's it.
416
00:28:59,155 --> 00:29:02,483
It's really, yeah, staying
away from those extremes,
417
00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:04,577
trying to be
more measured, in the middle,
418
00:29:05,662 --> 00:29:08,072
which to me is more courage.
419
00:29:08,122 --> 00:29:12,785
It's like the courage to
stay with the discomfort,
420
00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:17,165
the anxiety, and work
through it,
421
00:29:17,215 --> 00:29:19,292
you know, in a present
kind of way.
422
00:29:19,342 --> 00:29:20,361
That's what I really want.
423
00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:22,170
And you not feel threatened.
424
00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:24,213
But to be able to hold
that structure for them.
425
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,548
Right, right.
426
00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:26,723
Yeah.
427
00:29:52,042 --> 00:29:54,410
"The eternal
providence has appointed me
428
00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:57,588
to watch over the life and
health of thy creatures.
429
00:29:58,548 --> 00:30:01,968
May the love for my art
actuate me at all times.
430
00:30:03,553 --> 00:30:05,755
May I never see
in the patient anything
431
00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:08,182
but a fellow creature in pain.
432
00:30:09,558 --> 00:30:13,262
Grant me the strength,
time, and opportunity
433
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:15,815
always to correct
what I have acquired,
434
00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:18,777
always to extend its domain.
435
00:30:21,112 --> 00:30:24,273
Oh God, thou has appointed
me to watch over
436
00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:26,700
the life and death
of thy creatures.
437
00:30:28,202 --> 00:30:30,572
Here am I ready for my vocation
438
00:30:30,622 --> 00:30:32,832
and now I turn
unto my calling."
439
00:30:37,753 --> 00:30:40,038
Even though the
person who wrote this prayer
440
00:30:40,088 --> 00:30:44,710
is a physician,
he's identifying, like,
441
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,553
I'm called to this work.
442
00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:53,060
Acknowledging, like,
he can't do this alone.
443
00:30:54,728 --> 00:30:57,940
For me, I'm the same way.
444
00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:00,435
And I've had conversations.
445
00:31:00,485 --> 00:31:02,004
I don't know if you and
I have had it, David,
446
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:05,440
but I've had it
with other persons.
447
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:08,192
Like, I can't do this
work if I don't pray.
448
00:31:08,242 --> 00:31:11,612
Like, for me, I think,
449
00:31:11,662 --> 00:31:13,998
just for me in my practice,
it's impossible.
450
00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:17,493
How is that for you?
451
00:31:17,543 --> 00:31:20,297
Like if this is something
that you wanna flesh out.
452
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,092
I have no idea
where my prayers are going.
453
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:31,265
My inheritance and
life experience is like...
454
00:31:32,058 --> 00:31:33,058
if...
455
00:31:33,392 --> 00:31:36,178
There's... there's like
a sense of malnourishment
456
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:39,732
or like lacking of, like,
an immanent god.
457
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:43,937
Like, I'm, yeah...
458
00:31:43,987 --> 00:31:47,357
My grandfather had a wife
and three kids
459
00:31:47,407 --> 00:31:48,950
murdered by the Nazis.
460
00:31:50,868 --> 00:31:54,780
My grandmother was in
Auschwitz for a year,
461
00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:56,615
and just like a starving woman,
462
00:31:56,665 --> 00:31:59,710
like in the cold,
walking among the dead,
463
00:32:00,545 --> 00:32:03,380
and survived
the gas chambers twice.
464
00:32:06,175 --> 00:32:07,627
And yes, the question is,
465
00:32:07,677 --> 00:32:09,087
where...
where the hell are you?
466
00:32:09,137 --> 00:32:12,465
And, like, how much of
a beating should we be taking?
467
00:32:12,515 --> 00:32:17,678
And how obligated am I to you
468
00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:19,805
if I don't feel you,
I don't see you
469
00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:22,900
and like, you've...
you weren't protective.
470
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:31,233
That trauma is so profound
and so deep
471
00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:35,070
that it almost like
exists for me on that, like,
472
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,865
transcendent level of
just, like, I do not get,
473
00:32:37,915 --> 00:32:40,250
like, what do you make of this?
474
00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:47,050
I don't... I don't...
It's heavy.
475
00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:56,008
But that's like
my child self saying that.
476
00:32:56,058 --> 00:32:58,343
So there's still like a...
477
00:32:58,393 --> 00:33:01,263
How can I conceptualize
this differently or like
478
00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:03,482
what does it mean to
have like a more adult
479
00:33:04,942 --> 00:33:06,860
relationship with the divine?
480
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:11,190
I'm like grasping
for like a different,
481
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,033
a different kind of knowing.
482
00:33:17,455 --> 00:33:19,332
Thank you for sharing that.
483
00:33:33,595 --> 00:33:35,632
When you make space like this,
484
00:33:35,682 --> 00:33:40,227
it doesn't surprise me when
significant things emerge.
485
00:33:42,188 --> 00:33:44,807
So who knew with this oath
and prayer of Maimonides
486
00:33:44,857 --> 00:33:49,145
that we would wind our way
through your family history
487
00:33:49,195 --> 00:33:52,523
and where you wanna be
and who you wanna be
488
00:33:52,573 --> 00:33:53,950
in the midst of all of that.
489
00:33:55,910 --> 00:33:58,403
I didn't say much because
mostly 'cause I'm really fatigued.
490
00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:01,032
I was up 'till two this morning.
491
00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:02,833
It just it hit me in this hour.
492
00:34:10,883 --> 00:34:15,838
I have been thinking, I wonder
what would it be like to,
493
00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:18,892
I don't know, go to the park,
end early?
494
00:34:20,435 --> 00:34:23,095
I feel like we're all exhausted.
495
00:34:23,145 --> 00:34:25,105
I do have that impulse as well.
496
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,268
You're welcome to go
do whatever you'd like.
497
00:34:29,318 --> 00:34:30,520
Go home.
498
00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:32,855
I'm gonna go get a snack
and take a nap or something.
499
00:34:32,905 --> 00:34:33,907
I'm exhausted.
500
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:50,247
You could look at religion as,
501
00:34:50,297 --> 00:34:51,957
like, a psychological crutch
502
00:34:52,007 --> 00:34:55,260
because it's way easier
than confronting reality.
503
00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:59,521
But then at the same time,
504
00:34:59,546 --> 00:35:03,593
I can't throw all of this out
because there's too much here
505
00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:05,688
that is nourishing.
506
00:35:13,237 --> 00:35:17,617
Iced tea,
KIND bars, essential oil.
507
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,277
Okay, essential oil.
508
00:35:20,327 --> 00:35:22,113
- Essential oil?
- Yeah.
509
00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,909
Whatever, tea, I don't
know, what's that one?
510
00:35:24,934 --> 00:35:25,968
That's an iced tea.
511
00:35:26,043 --> 00:35:28,828
- Okay.
- So let's start with that.
512
00:35:28,878 --> 00:35:30,580
I don't think I've met you yet.
513
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:32,165
- No, Jermaine.
- Margaret.
514
00:35:32,215 --> 00:35:33,833
Nice to meet you, Miss Margaret.
515
00:35:33,883 --> 00:35:35,585
Nice to meet you.
516
00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:38,087
I'm running low on ice, but
you have ice on this unit
517
00:35:38,137 --> 00:35:40,138
so you could get more
if you want, yeah?
518
00:35:41,738 --> 00:35:43,608
Okay.
519
00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:44,893
Do you take sugar?
520
00:35:46,687 --> 00:35:50,140
I'll try it plain, I'll try
to do it bland. Let's see.
521
00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:53,102
Okay, you know. You know.
522
00:35:53,152 --> 00:35:55,145
Okay, so essential oil.
523
00:35:55,195 --> 00:35:56,856
How you feeling?
What do you need?
524
00:35:56,906 --> 00:35:58,648
Oh man. I feel sluggish...
525
00:35:58,698 --> 00:36:01,493
You need, sluggish, so
do you want some citrus?
526
00:36:02,745 --> 00:36:03,745
Okay.
527
00:36:05,707 --> 00:36:06,707
Ooh.
528
00:36:07,406 --> 00:36:08,733
This is just what I need, yes.
529
00:36:09,002 --> 00:36:10,662
- Yeah?
- Yes.
530
00:36:10,712 --> 00:36:12,872
Yeah, to help to
clear out my airway.
531
00:36:12,922 --> 00:36:14,623
- Good.
- Like, be able to breathe.
532
00:36:14,673 --> 00:36:18,210
- Breathe. It's important.
- That smells good.
533
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:20,253
Yeah, that one gives you a kick.
534
00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:21,303
Like it.
535
00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,425
And then you
can put it over here.
536
00:36:24,475 --> 00:36:26,593
Yeah, you want iced tea?
537
00:36:26,643 --> 00:36:27,678
Yes, please.
538
00:36:27,728 --> 00:36:28,888
You could keep sniffing.
539
00:36:28,938 --> 00:36:30,890
Yeah. This is actually good.
540
00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:32,725
This is like literally
what I need right now.
541
00:36:32,775 --> 00:36:34,102
How much time do you guys take
542
00:36:34,152 --> 00:36:36,645
to check in with your
own body when you're here?
543
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,688
Oh man, never.
544
00:36:38,738 --> 00:36:40,825
- Okay, there we go.
- Okay.
545
00:36:42,577 --> 00:36:44,612
- There we go.
- Right.
546
00:36:44,662 --> 00:36:45,913
- You want sugar?
- Yes.
547
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,457
Okay.
548
00:36:50,627 --> 00:36:51,627
Last one.
549
00:36:53,253 --> 00:36:55,965
- Okay. There we go.
- All right.
550
00:37:31,002 --> 00:37:32,076
Hello.
551
00:37:32,126 --> 00:37:33,785
Hi, Elana?
552
00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,120
Hi.
553
00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:39,208
Hi, it's Chaplain Margaret
calling. Is now a good time?
554
00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:42,210
Yeah, I remember. I have your number saved.
555
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:47,957
Yeah. I am so sorry
for your loss.
556
00:37:48,558 --> 00:37:53,097
I am so sorry.
557
00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,273
Thank you.
558
00:37:59,153 --> 00:38:03,273
I know he passed away like30 minutes after I left.
559
00:38:03,323 --> 00:38:04,323
Yeah.
560
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:16,545
And he also seemed very,
very calm and not in pain.
561
00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:19,463
Yeah.
562
00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:23,302
Not that that lifts
anything, but...
563
00:38:25,184 --> 00:38:27,262
Yeah, at leasthe wasn't hurting though.
564
00:38:27,287 --> 00:38:28,947
Yeah.
565
00:38:28,972 --> 00:38:30,014
Yeah.
566
00:38:31,283 --> 00:38:33,693
Oy, I am so sorry.
567
00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:36,182
Thank you,I appreciate you calling.
568
00:38:36,232 --> 00:38:39,426
Of course, and how
is Alla doing?
569
00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:42,229
I was just on the phone with herwhen you called.
570
00:38:42,279 --> 00:38:44,323
She is devastated.
571
00:38:48,993 --> 00:38:50,662
Yesterday was the funeral
572
00:38:53,207 --> 00:38:54,625
and, ah...
573
00:38:56,793 --> 00:38:59,797
she's like, just really,really worried about me
574
00:39:01,507 --> 00:39:04,168
'cause like I got really,really, really, really,
575
00:39:04,218 --> 00:39:06,595
excuse my language,fucked up yesterday
576
00:39:08,888 --> 00:39:12,142
and she's just scared thatI'm gonna like spiral.
577
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:18,148
Do you share
the same concerns as her?
578
00:39:20,275 --> 00:39:22,903
I don't reallycare about myself right now.
579
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:25,363
What do you care about?
580
00:39:29,202 --> 00:39:30,945
I don't know.
581
00:39:30,995 --> 00:39:31,995
Mmm...
582
00:39:32,788 --> 00:39:33,788
Okay.
583
00:39:37,585 --> 00:39:41,372
Is this your first
experience with a major loss?
584
00:39:41,422 --> 00:39:42,632
- Yes.
- Okay.
585
00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:52,933
So... I just wanna
give you permission
586
00:39:53,475 --> 00:39:58,555
for being in the unknown
and having no expectations
587
00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:00,307
for how you should feel
588
00:40:00,357 --> 00:40:03,193
or what you should be
going through, or
589
00:40:04,528 --> 00:40:08,032
whatever is, is okay and enough.
590
00:40:11,327 --> 00:40:12,862
Thank you.
591
00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:13,912
Okay?
592
00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:22,455
What do you believe,like, happens after death?
593
00:40:22,505 --> 00:40:25,298
I'm not too familiar with,like...
594
00:40:26,633 --> 00:40:28,385
Uh, Judaism.
595
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,097
Yeah. Um...
596
00:40:36,518 --> 00:40:40,638
Well, I could speak
from my own perspective
597
00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:42,692
and then I could speak somewhat
598
00:40:44,025 --> 00:40:46,437
from like a Jewish
theological perspective,
599
00:40:46,487 --> 00:40:49,648
but I'm gonna differentiate
those two, okay?
600
00:40:49,698 --> 00:40:53,577
Okay, I'd like tohear yours first. Definitely.
601
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,745
I don't always choose to
share private information
602
00:41:02,795 --> 00:41:07,667
or personal information
with my patients or family,
603
00:41:07,717 --> 00:41:10,510
but in this moment it feels,
um...
604
00:41:11,887 --> 00:41:13,797
it feels appropriate.
605
00:41:13,847 --> 00:41:14,847
Thank you.
606
00:41:14,890 --> 00:41:18,802
I lost my father pretty suddenly
607
00:41:18,852 --> 00:41:21,388
and I would also say tragically.
608
00:41:21,438 --> 00:41:24,057
- I'm so sorry.
- In 2016.
609
00:41:24,107 --> 00:41:29,103
So I have my own
experience and relationship
610
00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:31,740
with profound grief
611
00:41:32,575 --> 00:41:35,577
when it's unexpected
and quite complex.
612
00:41:37,037 --> 00:41:38,113
Yeah.
613
00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:43,168
I will say that it has
turned my life upside down
614
00:41:43,502 --> 00:41:46,955
in ways that, while I
was going through it,
615
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:51,543
it felt like hell,
but now that I am somewhat
616
00:41:51,593 --> 00:41:56,382
on the other side of it,
I realize was a gift.
617
00:41:56,432 --> 00:41:57,432
Um...
618
00:41:58,892 --> 00:42:02,303
I... I have come to
619
00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:07,225
kind of like a place
of comfort in feeling,
620
00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:09,895
and this is more of an intuition
621
00:42:09,945 --> 00:42:12,063
or I guess a personal belief.
622
00:42:12,113 --> 00:42:13,982
I can't
back it up with any data,
623
00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:16,410
but it's a personal
belief and perspective,
624
00:42:17,327 --> 00:42:19,905
um, given my line of work,
625
00:42:19,955 --> 00:42:24,793
that when a soul is
finished with its work
626
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:26,877
and its...
627
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:32,793
its reason for being
alive in its body,
628
00:42:32,843 --> 00:42:34,970
in its current body,
is complete,
629
00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:38,432
death is okay.
630
00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:47,015
What you said earlier
631
00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:49,602
about the reincarnation,
632
00:42:49,652 --> 00:42:52,813
like if the soul's workisn't done,
633
00:42:52,863 --> 00:42:55,857
then they come backin another body or form.
634
00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,575
Ben was so scared of that.
635
00:42:58,535 --> 00:42:59,535
Hm.
636
00:43:00,328 --> 00:43:03,040
Like he just,he told me that um...
637
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:09,253
he was scared that likehe would just keep coming back
638
00:43:11,923 --> 00:43:15,468
and living the same life.
639
00:43:18,513 --> 00:43:20,098
Yeah, I mean,
640
00:43:22,433 --> 00:43:23,643
death is scary,
641
00:43:24,728 --> 00:43:29,057
because it's unknown
territory, right?
642
00:43:29,107 --> 00:43:30,142
Yeah.
643
00:43:30,192 --> 00:43:32,518
If anybody tells you they
know an answer of where we go
644
00:43:32,568 --> 00:43:36,198
or what happens, I would
say don't believe them.
645
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:40,318
- We don't know.
- No one knows.
646
00:43:40,368 --> 00:43:44,498
We have ideas, intuitions,
maybe like traditions,
647
00:43:46,583 --> 00:43:50,828
but what I can say is
that when I was with him
648
00:43:50,878 --> 00:43:54,298
before he went to the ICU,
649
00:43:55,425 --> 00:43:59,430
he was at peace, he was calm
650
00:44:01,473 --> 00:44:03,808
and he was well-supported.
651
00:44:06,312 --> 00:44:07,353
And um...
652
00:44:09,565 --> 00:44:10,565
I guess...
653
00:44:12,067 --> 00:44:13,560
just let the tears come.
654
00:44:13,610 --> 00:44:15,362
It's love. Right?
655
00:44:16,026 --> 00:44:17,064
Yeah.
656
00:44:17,114 --> 00:44:21,118
It's love and things
will change and shift
657
00:44:22,452 --> 00:44:26,498
and just allow, allow, allow
whatever comes.
658
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:32,203
There's no right way to grieve.
659
00:44:32,253 --> 00:44:35,923
There's no specific way
to grieve.
660
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:38,718
It will come, it will go,
661
00:44:41,347 --> 00:44:43,973
and there are ways to honor
him while you're here.
662
00:44:47,102 --> 00:44:48,353
Yeah.
663
00:45:45,452 --> 00:45:48,163
Good morning.
664
00:46:31,122 --> 00:46:32,122
Okay.
665
00:46:35,085 --> 00:46:36,495
Um, I'm just gonna lift
666
00:46:36,545 --> 00:46:38,705
that I still have a headache
667
00:46:38,755 --> 00:46:41,917
and I'm gonna go slow,
and as usual,
668
00:46:41,967 --> 00:46:43,593
there's always a lot of content.
669
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,338
So I'm gonna pace myself, okay?
670
00:46:47,388 --> 00:46:49,925
"So I knew
that the primary medical team
671
00:46:49,975 --> 00:46:52,052
had been experiencing
great difficulty
672
00:46:52,102 --> 00:46:55,647
with the patient's family
and their communication style.
673
00:46:57,724 --> 00:47:00,427
This was evident to all
given that the patient's wife
674
00:47:00,485 --> 00:47:04,147
was often hysterically crying
very loudly on the unit,
675
00:47:04,197 --> 00:47:06,492
both at bedside
and in the hallways.
676
00:47:07,492 --> 00:47:09,903
She would move around
her husband's bed,
677
00:47:09,953 --> 00:47:13,573
placing aloe vera leaves
all over his skin."
678
00:47:13,623 --> 00:47:14,623
I wrote patshing.
679
00:47:14,667 --> 00:47:18,037
It's kind of like a Yiddish
way of saying hitting,
680
00:47:18,087 --> 00:47:20,538
but that's what it felt...
that's what it seemed like.
681
00:47:20,588 --> 00:47:25,593
She like hitting her husband
like that to make him wake up,
682
00:47:26,845 --> 00:47:29,097
which was kind of disturbing.
683
00:47:32,475 --> 00:47:34,595
So transference,
countertransference.
684
00:47:34,645 --> 00:47:37,063
"The patient's wife
reminded me of myself.
685
00:47:38,148 --> 00:47:43,062
It reminded me of my
three-year-long acute grief
686
00:47:43,112 --> 00:47:45,272
after my father's death
and my inability
687
00:47:45,322 --> 00:47:47,065
to live without my heart
feeling like
688
00:47:47,115 --> 00:47:48,950
it was falling out of my chest.
689
00:47:50,327 --> 00:47:51,778
I would often come home
from classes
690
00:47:51,828 --> 00:47:53,405
and all I could do
was get in the bath,
691
00:47:53,455 --> 00:47:55,615
the closest feeling
to being held in warm
692
00:47:55,665 --> 00:47:58,910
and compassionate hands
when far from home
693
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,628
and community of origin.
694
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,498
The wife's hysteria
reminded me of my mother
695
00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:07,210
when she first left the
ultra-Orthodox community
696
00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:09,253
and did not have access
to certain cultural
697
00:48:09,303 --> 00:48:12,507
and educational resources
and literacies,
698
00:48:12,557 --> 00:48:14,383
and often found herself
struggling to protect
699
00:48:14,433 --> 00:48:16,470
her voice against
institutional systems
700
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,472
that were
more powerful than her.
701
00:48:18,522 --> 00:48:20,640
She would use her
hysteria to move mountains
702
00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:22,267
when all else failed.
703
00:48:22,317 --> 00:48:25,145
Lack of desire to live
any longer due to acute
704
00:48:25,195 --> 00:48:26,813
spiritual and
emotional distress."
705
00:48:26,863 --> 00:48:27,990
That's my dad.
706
00:48:28,615 --> 00:48:31,577
That's something that was
triggered here as well.
707
00:48:32,868 --> 00:48:35,538
So the whole thing
felt very frightening.
708
00:48:38,333 --> 00:48:39,710
Very disturbing.
709
00:48:42,295 --> 00:48:46,467
Complicated. So what do
you need from this verbatim?
710
00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:52,172
This is one of these cases
where I wanna be able to like
711
00:48:52,222 --> 00:48:54,967
make like a protection
around myself.
712
00:48:55,017 --> 00:48:57,718
Like these are cases
that like I hand off
713
00:48:57,768 --> 00:49:02,482
because it's too close to
home, it's too triggering,
714
00:49:03,317 --> 00:49:06,395
and this person is
weighing on me because like
715
00:49:06,445 --> 00:49:09,230
I actually believe her
when she says,
716
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,317
I will go and kill myself.
717
00:49:11,367 --> 00:49:16,330
And I cannot just like put
up a boundary and be like,
718
00:49:16,622 --> 00:49:20,658
Well, my working hours
are from Monday to Friday
719
00:49:20,708 --> 00:49:23,912
and I'm on PTO on this day,
and so therefore, like, no.
720
00:49:23,962 --> 00:49:25,705
- This is one of those...
- Why not?
721
00:49:25,755 --> 00:49:27,665
Life and death, no.
722
00:49:27,715 --> 00:49:30,543
It's against my personal
moral code of ethics.
723
00:49:30,593 --> 00:49:32,753
If somebody's in a life
and death situation
724
00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:35,265
where they might take their
life, I will answer the phone.
725
00:49:36,517 --> 00:49:37,717
So how do you...
726
00:49:37,767 --> 00:49:40,853
You chose to answer the phone,
but you can't know
727
00:49:42,147 --> 00:49:44,265
what's gonna be conveyed to you
728
00:49:44,315 --> 00:49:46,226
- when you answer the phone.
- No.
729
00:49:46,276 --> 00:49:48,562
So why did you answer
your phone on your day off?
730
00:49:48,612 --> 00:49:50,506
Because I won't know what's
gonna be conveyed to me
731
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:55,535
if I answer the phone and that
person might hurt themselves.
732
00:49:56,243 --> 00:49:57,778
You're very insistent right now
733
00:49:57,828 --> 00:49:59,998
on not setting
certain boundaries
734
00:50:01,248 --> 00:50:02,658
and I think that merits
735
00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:04,535
serious consideration
on your part
736
00:50:04,585 --> 00:50:08,082
because it's connected to
the other serious concern
737
00:50:08,132 --> 00:50:10,883
that you've been raising,
which is your depletion.
738
00:50:12,843 --> 00:50:14,428
And I don't think
you can have both.
739
00:50:15,555 --> 00:50:17,590
It felt like there was nobody.
740
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,467
The social worker was like,
741
00:50:19,517 --> 00:50:21,637
Discharge, discharge,
discharge, I don't care.
742
00:50:21,687 --> 00:50:23,055
Like, the wife is not suicidal.
743
00:50:23,105 --> 00:50:24,456
It doesn't matter
that she had a plan.
744
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,058
It doesn't matter that
she said all those things.
745
00:50:27,108 --> 00:50:29,068
We're not even
gonna chart it as that.
746
00:50:31,655 --> 00:50:34,365
But that doesn't address
the boundary-setting issue.
747
00:50:39,495 --> 00:50:41,163
It does for me, it does.
748
00:50:42,123 --> 00:50:45,493
Because it would harm me to know
749
00:50:45,543 --> 00:50:48,538
that somebody took
their life because nobody else
750
00:50:48,588 --> 00:50:50,248
was available
to pick up the phone
751
00:50:50,298 --> 00:50:52,133
and I was technically on PTO.
752
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:56,220
Right, but that assumes
that you're the only person,
753
00:50:58,223 --> 00:50:59,223
and you're not.
754
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,475
So I'm looking for structural
ways for you to set boundaries
755
00:51:08,525 --> 00:51:12,603
so that you can preserve
yourself and not hit the point
756
00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:17,233
of fatigue and depletion
that you've been expressing
757
00:51:17,283 --> 00:51:18,868
over the last several weeks.
758
00:51:22,538 --> 00:51:23,766
So that's where I'm coming from.
759
00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:26,827
I also wanna challenge
what might be some sort
760
00:51:26,877 --> 00:51:29,120
of unconscious
mental model of yours
761
00:51:29,170 --> 00:51:32,832
that sort of presents itself as,
762
00:51:32,882 --> 00:51:36,210
I'm the only one
who can fix this problem.
763
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:38,255
And I don't think
that's the case.
764
00:51:38,305 --> 00:51:40,598
So that's a part that I
want you to reflect on...
765
00:51:43,852 --> 00:51:48,273
and we can take it up more in
individual supervision on Thursday.
766
00:52:47,082 --> 00:52:48,575
Can I ask you a question?
767
00:52:48,625 --> 00:52:49,625
Mm-hmm.
768
00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:54,005
I'm curious if you, from
your perspective, feel like
769
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:01,963
this residency has been
successful both for me
770
00:53:02,013 --> 00:53:04,057
and for my placement
in the cohort.
771
00:53:06,308 --> 00:53:08,353
Successful, hm.
772
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,791
Well, that's
an interesting question.
773
00:53:12,815 --> 00:53:17,237
I was kind of... it's a
surprising question to me.
774
00:53:19,238 --> 00:53:22,775
I don't know if I would
evaluate it in those terms,
775
00:53:22,825 --> 00:53:25,370
success or not successful.
776
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:32,577
I'm wondering if we have
mutually agreed upon goals.
777
00:53:32,627 --> 00:53:33,995
- Yeah, me too.
- For you, okay.
778
00:53:34,045 --> 00:53:35,663
Yeah, I am
wondering about that too.
779
00:53:35,713 --> 00:53:38,333
Yeah, and I can tell you
what my goal is
780
00:53:38,383 --> 00:53:41,385
and then we can see
if it's similar to your goal.
781
00:53:42,637 --> 00:53:44,255
The fact that the issues
have surfaced,
782
00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:46,557
I think are a mark of success.
783
00:53:47,642 --> 00:53:49,468
Now we have a couple of months.
784
00:53:49,518 --> 00:53:51,137
What can we do?
785
00:53:51,187 --> 00:53:52,680
What I want you to do,
786
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:55,775
what I wanna do with you
is I want you to explore
787
00:53:57,110 --> 00:54:00,063
rather than explain, because
I know you can explain,
788
00:54:00,113 --> 00:54:01,607
I know you have hypotheses,
789
00:54:01,657 --> 00:54:04,150
I know you have a mental
model and I think sometimes
790
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,652
those get in your way
791
00:54:05,702 --> 00:54:07,995
of exploring
the experience right now
792
00:54:09,038 --> 00:54:10,415
and learning something new.
793
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:17,538
Okay, I can join you
in the assessment
794
00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:21,217
that I'm quite good at
explaining and need more
795
00:54:22,135 --> 00:54:25,555
experience and spaciousness
for exploring.
796
00:54:27,348 --> 00:54:30,477
That pivot feels very accurate.
797
00:54:31,687 --> 00:54:36,692
Keeping my thoughts and
my statements open-ended,
798
00:54:37,067 --> 00:54:38,935
question mark at the end.
799
00:54:38,985 --> 00:54:42,605
I need more information. Yes.
800
00:54:42,655 --> 00:54:45,900
Okay, curiosity, good.
801
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:47,827
It's a join
and a difference here.
802
00:54:48,662 --> 00:54:52,448
You know, Tuesday was a
really meaningful day for me
803
00:54:52,498 --> 00:54:56,410
in many ways and very
frustrating because I did feel
804
00:54:56,460 --> 00:55:01,123
your care for me or space
for, like, maybe holding
805
00:55:01,173 --> 00:55:04,093
my intensity, like, was waning.
806
00:55:06,262 --> 00:55:09,132
It did feel like
there was a fissure
807
00:55:09,182 --> 00:55:12,018
or like a breaking of trust.
808
00:55:12,643 --> 00:55:16,982
- Mm-hmm.
So my communication...
809
00:55:19,942 --> 00:55:24,688
sounds like really
closed your boundaries
810
00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:27,325
and caused you
to start questioning.
811
00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:33,782
I'm not sure exactly what
our relationship, my...
812
00:55:33,832 --> 00:55:35,354
- I would say your empathy.
- Hearing.
813
00:55:35,379 --> 00:55:36,434
Okay.
814
00:55:36,459 --> 00:55:40,003
It felt like the rules went
up, the empathy went down.
815
00:55:40,838 --> 00:55:42,832
That's what I experienced.
816
00:55:42,882 --> 00:55:44,008
Mm-hmm.
817
00:55:45,135 --> 00:55:46,712
And sometimes that happens
818
00:55:46,762 --> 00:55:48,472
when there's
stress in the system.
819
00:55:48,972 --> 00:55:51,382
Yeah, for sure.
820
00:55:51,432 --> 00:55:52,467
That is true.
821
00:55:52,517 --> 00:55:55,720
Yeah, but receiving
that was very difficult
822
00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:59,890
because it felt like I
didn't feel cared about
823
00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:02,685
and I didn't feel invested in,
824
00:56:02,735 --> 00:56:07,315
and I feel like I'm
being blamed or shamed
825
00:56:07,365 --> 00:56:10,735
for ringing the bell when I say,
826
00:56:10,785 --> 00:56:12,745
this feels too much for my body.
827
00:56:14,580 --> 00:56:18,158
Or the ride is going too fast,
828
00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:20,662
it needs to
slow down a little bit.
829
00:56:20,712 --> 00:56:23,288
Or something's not right.
830
00:56:23,338 --> 00:56:25,750
And it could be that
there's learning goals here
831
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,712
that relate to like, you
know, the core issue.
832
00:56:28,762 --> 00:56:31,923
It could very well be,
and I'm receptive to that.
833
00:56:31,973 --> 00:56:37,586
But it felt like the care,
the empathy, and the curiosity
834
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:40,482
was replaced with rules
835
00:56:42,108 --> 00:56:44,402
and, Sit down
and eat your broccoli.
836
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:47,813
And make sure
that you clean it up
837
00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:50,283
and put it in the dishwasher
and chart it.
838
00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:57,032
Mm-hmm.
839
00:56:57,082 --> 00:56:58,198
You know what I mean?
840
00:56:58,248 --> 00:57:00,293
I do, I do, I do know
what you mean.
841
00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:02,703
I'm not laughing at you.
842
00:57:02,753 --> 00:57:05,423
I'm laughing in recognition
of what you're describing.
843
00:57:06,757 --> 00:57:07,758
It really resonates.
844
00:57:12,763 --> 00:57:16,217
Yes. So you're reminding me
845
00:57:16,267 --> 00:57:18,227
of my stepdaughter's feedback
846
00:57:18,853 --> 00:57:22,140
and, ah, that's just
an acknowledgement.
847
00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:26,485
Sometimes I do get rigid and
it comes across as uncaring,
848
00:57:27,903 --> 00:57:30,482
different from the
relationship that we've built,
849
00:57:30,532 --> 00:57:35,328
so I'm saying that to
validate what you're saying.
850
00:57:37,247 --> 00:57:39,665
I hear you and it
resonates with me and...
851
00:57:42,460 --> 00:57:43,460
I got tense
852
00:57:44,545 --> 00:57:48,382
and I'm sorry that it
had that impact on you.
853
00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:29,840
First floor.
854
00:58:30,959 --> 00:58:34,438
Are there specific words
that you say during a baptism?
855
00:58:34,477 --> 00:58:35,673
Yeah.
856
00:58:35,723 --> 00:58:37,590
Do you know them by heart?
857
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,177
Do we have like
a card or something?
858
00:58:40,227 --> 00:58:41,468
We have a book.
859
00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:43,805
- We have a book?
- Yeah.
860
00:58:43,855 --> 00:58:45,223
Okay, it's an emergency
861
00:58:45,273 --> 00:58:48,652
so I'm gonna grab the holy
water while that gets located.
862
00:58:49,735 --> 00:58:50,735
Is it there?
863
00:58:52,030 --> 00:58:54,190
Well, yeah, but
I mean it's 15 pages long.
864
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,634
Well, I'm just
gonna take a bit of it
865
00:58:55,658 --> 00:58:57,152
and I'll improvise.
866
00:58:57,202 --> 00:58:58,528
Yeah, I mean you'll figure out
867
00:58:58,578 --> 00:59:00,238
what to skip
and what to include.
868
00:59:00,288 --> 00:59:01,788
I do the same thing.
869
00:59:02,365 --> 00:59:03,859
Okay.
870
00:59:04,167 --> 00:59:05,668
- Yeah.
- Awesome.
871
00:59:06,173 --> 00:59:07,828
- 127.
- Oh my,
872
00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:11,207
I was just about to
like, my heart dropped.
873
00:59:11,257 --> 00:59:14,493
If you can't tell, I'm nervous.
874
00:59:15,303 --> 00:59:16,345
Can you tell?
875
00:59:18,263 --> 00:59:19,382
I get really nervous
876
00:59:19,432 --> 00:59:22,010
every time I do a baptism.
877
00:59:22,060 --> 00:59:23,477
Very nerve-racking.
878
00:59:27,023 --> 00:59:28,023
Okay.
879
00:59:29,525 --> 00:59:30,777
Let's go.
880
00:59:32,820 --> 00:59:34,697
Adding this to the fanny pack.
881
00:59:36,198 --> 00:59:37,617
And this.
882
00:59:42,372 --> 00:59:44,490
See ya in a bit, thank you,
thank you.
883
00:59:44,540 --> 00:59:46,750
- Oh, okay, good luck.
- Thanks.
884
00:59:51,758 --> 00:59:53,552
Okay, the chaplain
is here at the front desk.
885
00:59:55,718 --> 00:59:56,752
Where should I meet her?
886
00:59:56,802 --> 00:59:58,178
Where should she meet you?
887
01:00:01,682 --> 01:00:05,262
It was, uh, twins
and one passed away.
888
01:00:05,312 --> 01:00:08,180
Okay, so one made it
and one's passed.
889
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:10,140
Do we have baby names?
890
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:13,937
Yeah, one is Isabella
and one is Aurora, I believe.
891
01:00:13,987 --> 01:00:17,065
The one that's with us now
that passed, what's her name?
892
01:00:17,115 --> 01:00:19,650
So the one that passed
Aurora, I believe.
893
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:20,735
Can we confirm that?
894
01:00:20,785 --> 01:00:22,070
Yeah, I can confirm.
895
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,447
- And mom's name is Layla Sue?
- Yeah.
896
01:00:24,497 --> 01:00:26,032
- I think it's Leila.
- Leila?
897
01:00:26,082 --> 01:00:27,533
That's the way
she pronounces it.
898
01:00:27,583 --> 01:00:29,585
That's very helpful, thank you.
899
01:00:41,513 --> 01:00:43,348
Mom, do you wanna hold Aurora?
900
01:00:44,267 --> 01:00:45,267
Is it okay?
901
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,520
Okay.
902
01:00:52,317 --> 01:00:53,317
Okay.
903
01:01:03,327 --> 01:01:08,073
Okay, so I'm gonna baptize her.
904
01:01:08,123 --> 01:01:09,417
Okay?
905
01:01:16,007 --> 01:01:18,885
Let's just take a couple deep
breaths together and center.
906
01:01:48,915 --> 01:01:50,533
Beautiful, okay.
907
01:01:50,583 --> 01:01:52,452
Okay, we got this.
908
01:01:52,502 --> 01:01:53,502
We got this.
909
01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:54,578
It's okay if I begin?
910
01:01:54,628 --> 01:01:55,838
- Of course.
- Okay.
911
01:01:57,715 --> 01:01:59,542
"The sacrament of baptism
912
01:01:59,592 --> 01:02:01,710
is an outward and visible sign
913
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,545
of the grace of God
914
01:02:03,595 --> 01:02:06,423
and as much as
the promise of the Gospel
915
01:02:06,473 --> 01:02:09,635
is not only to us,
but to our children.
916
01:02:09,685 --> 01:02:11,178
Baptism with water
917
01:02:11,228 --> 01:02:13,438
and the Holy Spirit is the mark.
918
01:02:14,398 --> 01:02:17,768
Baptism is a sacrament
through which we are united
919
01:02:17,818 --> 01:02:20,312
to Jesus Christ and given part
920
01:02:20,362 --> 01:02:22,990
in Christ's ministry
of reconciliation.
921
01:02:23,908 --> 01:02:27,662
Baptism is a visible sign
of an invisible event
922
01:02:28,495 --> 01:02:31,082
as though thou art alive."
923
01:02:40,382 --> 01:02:44,303
In the name of
the Father, the Son,
924
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:48,090
and the Holy Spirit.
925
01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:50,768
I bless you, Amen.
926
01:02:52,603 --> 01:02:56,440
And Dad, I would like you to
do the same if you can. Okay?
927
01:02:59,152 --> 01:03:03,563
In the name of
the Father, the Son,
928
01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:05,157
and the Holy Spirit.
929
01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:08,778
- Amen.
- Amen.
930
01:03:08,828 --> 01:03:09,828
Beautiful.
931
01:03:10,788 --> 01:03:11,788
Okay.
932
01:03:21,298 --> 01:03:24,710
She had life in your body.
Right?
933
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Yeah.
934
01:03:25,970 --> 01:03:29,382
- She had life.
- Yes, very lively.
935
01:03:29,432 --> 01:03:31,925
And she had purpose
in your body.
936
01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:34,395
And we don't have access
to what that was about.
937
01:03:35,437 --> 01:03:38,473
But we did our part
and you did your part.
938
01:03:38,523 --> 01:03:39,525
You delivered her.
939
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:44,905
And she's beautiful.
940
01:03:46,438 --> 01:03:47,443
Yes.
941
01:03:47,493 --> 01:03:48,575
She's beautiful.
942
01:03:52,288 --> 01:03:53,915
- Thank you.
- You got it.
943
01:03:58,252 --> 01:03:59,979
Is there anything else
I can do for both of you?
944
01:04:00,003 --> 01:04:01,955
You don't have a Bible, do you?
945
01:04:02,005 --> 01:04:04,750
I do, I do, do you want...
946
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,252
Jeremiah 29.
947
01:04:06,302 --> 01:04:08,972
You wanna, yeah,
go for it, go for it.
948
01:04:17,730 --> 01:04:19,473
"'For I know the plans
I have for you, '"
949
01:04:19,523 --> 01:04:21,308
declares the Lord,
'Plans to prosper you
950
01:04:21,358 --> 01:04:22,685
and not to harm you.
951
01:04:22,735 --> 01:04:24,987
Plans to give you
hope and a future.'"
952
01:04:25,905 --> 01:04:26,905
Mm.
953
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:33,412
Yeah. You know, I think
that's, you know, for all of us.
954
01:04:37,417 --> 01:04:38,910
We have hope in the future
955
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,913
and I know she does in a more...
956
01:04:42,963 --> 01:04:45,457
celestial plane, let's say,
957
01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:48,085
and you know,
we're excited about her sister
958
01:04:48,135 --> 01:04:52,548
and her big brother and everyone
959
01:04:52,598 --> 01:04:55,183
in the family, feels blessed.
960
01:04:58,728 --> 01:05:01,348
At the same time, we feel
extremely heartbroken
961
01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:04,268
that she couldn't make
it out with her sister.
962
01:05:04,318 --> 01:05:05,318
Yeah.
963
01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:13,493
Lord, our God, Eternal One,
964
01:05:15,162 --> 01:05:17,740
please bless this family.
965
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:20,827
Bless this family
to know and to hold
966
01:05:20,877 --> 01:05:22,745
the complexity of life
967
01:05:22,795 --> 01:05:26,123
in their bodies
as they have known
968
01:05:26,173 --> 01:05:28,467
for these last several months.
969
01:05:30,302 --> 01:05:31,795
To be able to grieve,
970
01:05:31,845 --> 01:05:35,382
to be able to celebrate,
simultaneously,
971
01:05:35,432 --> 01:05:38,218
is one of the hardest
tasks you have given us
972
01:05:38,268 --> 01:05:39,603
and we take it on.
973
01:05:42,147 --> 01:05:45,727
We ask you, God, to bless
Aurora.
974
01:05:45,777 --> 01:05:49,480
Bless her life, bless her heart,
975
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:52,275
bless her to know
she always has a sister,
976
01:05:52,325 --> 01:05:56,162
always has a companion that
she shared the womb with.
977
01:05:57,497 --> 01:06:00,908
Bless her to know that her
parents are only stronger
978
01:06:00,958 --> 01:06:03,618
and more fortified
by this experience
979
01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:06,672
and that Aurora will
remain an eternal teacher
980
01:06:07,965 --> 01:06:10,500
and have a place
in our home to reside
981
01:06:10,550 --> 01:06:13,220
whenever her spirit
wants to visit.
982
01:06:14,638 --> 01:06:17,467
We thank you, Eternal
One, for the complexity
983
01:06:17,517 --> 01:06:20,093
of this experience and
the ways that Aurora
984
01:06:20,143 --> 01:06:22,605
has taught us and will
continue to teach us
985
01:06:23,605 --> 01:06:27,443
how to be great parents,
community members, mother.
986
01:06:31,905 --> 01:06:35,275
We thank you and we will
grieve and we will celebrate
987
01:06:35,325 --> 01:06:39,488
simultaneously, at once,
as we are obligated.
988
01:06:39,538 --> 01:06:41,615
We thank you God, amen.
989
01:06:41,665 --> 01:06:44,035
- Amen.
- Amen.
990
01:06:44,085 --> 01:06:45,712
Amen.
991
01:06:51,758 --> 01:06:52,758
Okay.
992
01:06:54,506 --> 01:06:56,000
- Mom, you good?
- Yeah, thank you.
993
01:06:56,097 --> 01:06:58,265
- Yeah, thank you.
- Okay.
994
01:08:15,633 --> 01:08:18,045
- All right.
- Okay.
995
01:08:18,095 --> 01:08:20,097
- Okay.
- Technical stuff, all right.
996
01:08:20,973 --> 01:08:24,927
All right, now are ya here?
997
01:08:24,977 --> 01:08:28,055
I'm here, yeah,
yeah, I do feel here.
998
01:08:28,105 --> 01:08:30,107
All right, good, okay.
999
01:08:31,192 --> 01:08:34,145
So David, what method would
you like to use today?
1000
01:08:34,195 --> 01:08:36,863
You wanna use "My
problem is I" or another?
1001
01:08:37,865 --> 01:08:39,023
Hmm.
1002
01:08:39,073 --> 01:08:41,068
Exploring.
1003
01:08:41,118 --> 01:08:43,578
I think I wanna use,
ah, a different one.
1004
01:08:44,997 --> 01:08:47,617
That one's always tough,
although I see the merit.
1005
01:08:47,667 --> 01:08:49,752
- And it can be, yeah.
- Yeah.
1006
01:08:52,797 --> 01:08:55,415
Well, let's, before we
begin then, how are you?
1007
01:08:55,465 --> 01:08:56,542
Let me say hello.
1008
01:08:56,592 --> 01:08:57,592
Yeah, thank you.
1009
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,673
Well, that's where I wanted
to begin anyway, is uh...
1010
01:09:02,723 --> 01:09:07,803
is that I've got a mishmash
1011
01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:10,438
of things that I think
we can probably...
1012
01:09:11,398 --> 01:09:14,025
they're probably related, but
we can probably tease them out.
1013
01:09:15,527 --> 01:09:16,770
Okay.
1014
01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:20,690
My, whatever you call
it, my filter is down,
1015
01:09:20,740 --> 01:09:22,860
my bandwidth is stretched.
1016
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:27,915
I don't have the room
inwardly to metabolize
1017
01:09:28,165 --> 01:09:32,002
the harder stuff that
comes at me right now.
1018
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,920
Okay.
1019
01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:37,290
I'm telling myself right now,
1020
01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:39,302
I don't wanna
do supervision anymore.
1021
01:09:43,847 --> 01:09:48,018
And I don't think that's
exactly the truth.
1022
01:09:50,103 --> 01:09:51,930
Okay, but right at the moment,
1023
01:09:51,980 --> 01:09:53,682
you don't wanna do supervision.
1024
01:09:53,732 --> 01:09:54,767
I don't wanna do it.
1025
01:09:54,817 --> 01:09:56,685
Okay, anymore.
You don't know the future.
1026
01:09:56,735 --> 01:09:59,103
- Yep.
- At the moment,
1027
01:09:59,153 --> 01:10:01,740
you don't wanna do supervision.
1028
01:10:02,617 --> 01:10:05,277
- Yeah, I don't wanna do it.
I dread it.
1029
01:10:05,327 --> 01:10:07,697
If I can cancel it, I cancel it.
1030
01:10:07,747 --> 01:10:09,030
I would've
canceled it yesterday,
1031
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,158
but we haven't met
in several weeks
1032
01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:14,745
and then it's like,
there's only five...
1033
01:10:14,795 --> 01:10:16,705
after this week
there are only four more weeks
1034
01:10:16,755 --> 01:10:18,957
and it's like,
you gotta supervise.
1035
01:10:19,007 --> 01:10:21,585
You have to.
You have to do this.
1036
01:10:21,635 --> 01:10:23,295
It's... first of all,
it's your job.
1037
01:10:23,345 --> 01:10:25,097
It's... they need it.
1038
01:10:26,015 --> 01:10:28,558
Like, you can't stop doing this.
1039
01:10:29,810 --> 01:10:31,887
But I wanna stop.
1040
01:10:31,937 --> 01:10:33,222
Okay.
1041
01:10:33,272 --> 01:10:36,058
All right, so let's pay
attention to, you know,
1042
01:10:36,108 --> 01:10:40,562
this piece of you that
wants to stop and you know
1043
01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:44,400
what's going inside you,
David, right now
1044
01:10:44,450 --> 01:10:45,575
that you wanna stop?
1045
01:10:47,118 --> 01:10:48,528
Like, what about the supervision
1046
01:10:48,578 --> 01:10:49,997
do you wanna be done with?
1047
01:10:54,167 --> 01:10:55,460
Well, it hurts.
1048
01:10:57,045 --> 01:10:59,290
It hurts, okay.
1049
01:10:59,340 --> 01:11:01,133
And I wanna stop hurting.
1050
01:11:02,258 --> 01:11:04,428
Wanna stop hurting, of course.
1051
01:11:08,098 --> 01:11:11,727
That's the motivation
is it hurts and,
1052
01:11:12,853 --> 01:11:17,273
man, my shame triggers
are so triggered right now,
1053
01:11:21,403 --> 01:11:23,155
but I don't have the um...
1054
01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:28,243
I don't have the fortitude
at the moment
1055
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,583
to really, um...
1056
01:11:36,502 --> 01:11:39,170
provide the supervision
I wanna provide.
1057
01:11:42,548 --> 01:11:45,793
That's why I'm, you know,
I'm thinking,
1058
01:11:45,843 --> 01:11:48,888
Okay, you need a break.
1059
01:11:52,642 --> 01:11:54,428
Well, what I'm really
hearing, David,
1060
01:11:54,478 --> 01:11:57,597
when you say it hurts,
right, and you know,
1061
01:11:57,647 --> 01:12:01,435
this work does hurt if
we don't have the fortitude,
1062
01:12:01,485 --> 01:12:02,903
which we don't always have.
1063
01:12:03,737 --> 01:12:05,105
Yeah.
1064
01:12:05,155 --> 01:12:06,273
Yeah.
1065
01:12:06,323 --> 01:12:08,950
And you don't wanna hurt,
of course.
1066
01:12:10,618 --> 01:12:11,737
No.
1067
01:12:11,787 --> 01:12:13,663
Who wants to do
something that hurts?
1068
01:12:15,415 --> 01:12:16,415
Yeah.
1069
01:12:18,002 --> 01:12:19,462
It's hard to know.
1070
01:12:21,588 --> 01:12:26,218
I can see what I need to do.
1071
01:12:26,914 --> 01:12:28,004
Okay.
1072
01:12:28,054 --> 01:12:32,598
And I can't find
the strength to do it.
1073
01:12:34,518 --> 01:12:35,843
Okay.
1074
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:41,100
I see it, I know what
needs to happen, but I just,
1075
01:12:41,150 --> 01:12:45,112
I don't have
the gas in the tank.
1076
01:12:47,405 --> 01:12:48,607
It's like...
1077
01:12:48,657 --> 01:12:51,027
Okay, so I think that
this is so important, right?
1078
01:12:51,077 --> 01:12:55,322
You see it, you know it,
here, what needs to be done
1079
01:12:55,372 --> 01:12:57,448
and you don't have
the gas in the tank.
1080
01:12:57,498 --> 01:12:58,658
Okay.
1081
01:12:58,708 --> 01:13:00,618
My guess is that you are
1082
01:13:00,668 --> 01:13:03,047
absolutely a voice
for the group.
1083
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:07,717
No one in this group has the
gas in the tank right now.
1084
01:13:34,285 --> 01:13:36,455
Lord, our God, Eternal One,
1085
01:13:38,207 --> 01:13:40,292
we come before you today,
1086
01:13:42,460 --> 01:13:45,372
to celebrate the devotion
1087
01:13:45,422 --> 01:13:48,925
and the love between
a daughter and her mother.
1088
01:13:50,177 --> 01:13:54,297
We do not want to miss
this opportunity to love
1089
01:13:54,347 --> 01:13:57,802
because we are
stuck in the past.
1090
01:13:57,852 --> 01:14:01,263
Lord our God,
we ask that you guide us
1091
01:14:01,313 --> 01:14:05,442
in this very challenging
and dark moment,
1092
01:14:06,568 --> 01:14:08,445
and let us remember...
1093
01:14:12,115 --> 01:14:14,535
that when we think we're
at the end of the rope,
1094
01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:18,363
there's always something
that appears
1095
01:14:18,413 --> 01:14:23,418
that keeps us
desiring life, desiring you,
1096
01:14:23,752 --> 01:14:26,037
and desiring to serve, amen.
1097
01:14:26,087 --> 01:14:27,088
Amen.
1098
01:14:28,132 --> 01:14:30,376
- We can't redo the past...
- Yes I know
1099
01:14:30,426 --> 01:14:32,962
We can't redo the
past, but you know what?
1100
01:14:33,012 --> 01:14:36,132
I'm more afraid that you're
gonna miss the present
1101
01:14:36,182 --> 01:14:38,808
because you wanna
replay the past.
1102
01:14:40,685 --> 01:14:44,305
We cannot save our parents.
1103
01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:47,392
We cannot save our parents,
okay?
1104
01:14:47,442 --> 01:14:48,860
These things happen.
1105
01:14:49,778 --> 01:14:51,112
It's natural.
1106
01:14:53,365 --> 01:14:57,693
And we're also in COVID, so
you're, everyone's foggy.
1107
01:14:57,743 --> 01:14:59,278
Nobody's thinking straight.
1108
01:14:59,328 --> 01:15:01,907
Everyone's in a stress response.
1109
01:15:01,957 --> 01:15:05,452
I don't want you to be
shouldering this guilt
1110
01:15:05,502 --> 01:15:09,915
because it's not
your responsibility
1111
01:15:09,965 --> 01:15:11,250
to fully shoulder that.
1112
01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:13,335
Whatever people are
saying about negligence,
1113
01:15:13,385 --> 01:15:15,087
you don't let that in.
1114
01:15:15,137 --> 01:15:17,297
You love your mother
and you continue to love her
1115
01:15:17,347 --> 01:15:19,132
while she's here now.
1116
01:15:19,182 --> 01:15:21,843
But I tell you this as
somebody who lost somebody
1117
01:15:21,893 --> 01:15:24,437
with no warning at all, none.
1118
01:15:27,273 --> 01:15:29,108
You do not know
what's gonna happen.
1119
01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:32,103
You do not know
1120
01:15:32,153 --> 01:15:34,355
and I could tell you that
now from the other side,
1121
01:15:34,405 --> 01:15:37,233
being somebody stubborn who
thinks she knows everything
1122
01:15:37,283 --> 01:15:39,485
what's gonna happen
all the time.
1123
01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:44,708
So let me be that stranger
that tells you it's dark,
1124
01:15:46,793 --> 01:15:48,878
but you have no idea
what's gonna happen.
1125
01:15:50,005 --> 01:15:51,005
Okay?
1126
01:15:54,677 --> 01:15:57,337
You will have time
to decide how to make meaning
1127
01:15:57,387 --> 01:16:01,007
of the past, but I don't
want you to lose the present.
1128
01:16:01,057 --> 01:16:02,350
Your mom is still here.
1129
01:16:05,103 --> 01:16:07,940
You're not dumb.
You're not negligent.
1130
01:16:09,775 --> 01:16:11,810
You just can't
control everything
1131
01:16:11,860 --> 01:16:13,603
and this is shocking
1132
01:16:13,653 --> 01:16:15,905
and COVID is very,
very stressful.
1133
01:16:25,165 --> 01:16:27,033
I have a little bit of
a cold, but don't worry,
1134
01:16:27,083 --> 01:16:28,835
it's nothing serious.
1135
01:17:26,477 --> 01:17:31,222
For today,
Karen is on call? Yes.
1136
01:17:31,272 --> 01:17:37,445
And, um, Jason, Sophia,
and Fumiko are off today...
1137
01:17:39,197 --> 01:17:42,942
and I'm...
I don't see Mati on this call,
1138
01:17:42,992 --> 01:17:45,237
so my last email...
1139
01:17:45,287 --> 01:17:46,822
I'm gonna check in with her
1140
01:17:46,872 --> 01:17:49,615
on whether she's
in or not today,
1141
01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:53,328
but I'll confirm that for now
1142
01:17:53,378 --> 01:17:56,957
I will list Johnny for her,
Mati's units,
1143
01:17:57,007 --> 01:17:58,693
and if that changes,
I'll let you know, Johnny.
1144
01:17:58,717 --> 01:18:03,463
I also have Johnny
listed for the SICU/TICU.
1145
01:18:03,513 --> 01:18:07,008
Good morning, Mati.
1146
01:18:07,058 --> 01:18:09,887
Wanted to follow up.
1147
01:18:09,937 --> 01:18:12,355
Thought you'd be here,
that you'd...
1148
01:18:24,075 --> 01:18:27,320
- Hey, Mati.
- Hi, both of you.
1149
01:18:27,370 --> 01:18:29,705
- Hi
- How are you?
1150
01:18:32,625 --> 01:18:36,788
I guess I've just
been feeling like resistant
1151
01:18:36,838 --> 01:18:39,967
because, like, my body
doesn't feel okay.
1152
01:18:42,010 --> 01:18:44,337
When I woke up,
I was just like, I can't.
1153
01:18:44,387 --> 01:18:48,217
I can't imagine doing this
five days a week in a row.
1154
01:18:48,267 --> 01:18:50,768
I don't have a marathon
in me right now.
1155
01:18:51,853 --> 01:18:54,848
And maybe, maybe others do...
personally, I don't.
1156
01:18:54,898 --> 01:18:57,058
- No, I don't.
- Like, legit.
1157
01:18:57,108 --> 01:19:00,278
Like, pal care
took a lot out of me
1158
01:19:01,237 --> 01:19:03,815
and my body was breaking
down during pal care
1159
01:19:03,865 --> 01:19:06,033
and I was like,
You can't get sick right now.
1160
01:19:07,035 --> 01:19:08,035
Yeah.
1161
01:19:09,872 --> 01:19:12,373
I feel kind of angry
1162
01:19:13,333 --> 01:19:16,662
that my body's being
asked to produce
1163
01:19:16,712 --> 01:19:19,832
at a certain level
or standard that I am...
1164
01:19:19,882 --> 01:19:22,258
- That's true.
- ...not willing to do.
1165
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,762
And I can't do it.
1166
01:19:27,888 --> 01:19:29,015
I don't wanna do it.
1167
01:19:42,153 --> 01:19:46,032
So you really escalated
this situation unnecessarily
1168
01:19:46,992 --> 01:19:48,985
by asking about HR.
1169
01:19:49,035 --> 01:19:51,078
You always have a privilege
to go to HR.
1170
01:19:52,330 --> 01:19:53,948
I took the privilege
today as well.
1171
01:19:53,998 --> 01:19:55,783
I talked to labor relations
1172
01:19:55,833 --> 01:19:57,952
and you are not
being mistreated.
1173
01:19:58,002 --> 01:20:01,380
That is a gross exaggeration
of the situation.
1174
01:20:02,882 --> 01:20:04,835
You have two options.
1175
01:20:04,885 --> 01:20:07,295
When you say you're gonna
be here from 12 to eight,
1176
01:20:07,345 --> 01:20:09,255
you come in from 12 to eight
1177
01:20:09,305 --> 01:20:11,800
or you notify me and Amy
in advance.
1178
01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:14,635
I took grand rounds,
but I was on the phone,
1179
01:20:14,685 --> 01:20:19,690
I was listening. I was
present, my name was on there.
1180
01:20:21,527 --> 01:20:24,270
I made sure that it was present
1181
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,773
and then I came here as soon
as I could after I finished
1182
01:20:27,823 --> 01:20:30,360
doing some of the work at
home which I had to do.
1183
01:20:30,410 --> 01:20:32,738
Are you hearing what I'm saying?
The two options.
1184
01:20:32,788 --> 01:20:35,282
You brought
this to labor relations
1185
01:20:35,332 --> 01:20:39,118
and now I have to figure out
what to do with that, yeah.
1186
01:20:39,168 --> 01:20:40,479
No, you're hearing
the wrong thing.
1187
01:20:40,503 --> 01:20:43,957
I've said I need to know
in advance.
1188
01:20:44,007 --> 01:20:45,333
What does advance look like?
1189
01:20:45,383 --> 01:20:46,793
Before twelve o'clock.
1190
01:20:46,843 --> 01:20:47,960
Your shift is 12 to eight,
1191
01:20:48,010 --> 01:20:51,013
you notify me at 1:08 that
you're gonna be in at two...
1192
01:20:56,268 --> 01:20:59,722
I went to labor relations
to make sure
1193
01:20:59,772 --> 01:21:02,808
that you're not being
mistreated and you are not.
1194
01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:04,794
That's how you made
sure I'm not being mistreated?
1195
01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:06,437
That is a gross exaggeration.
1196
01:21:06,487 --> 01:21:07,714
By taking it to labor relations.
1197
01:21:07,738 --> 01:21:09,648
Unnecessarily escalating
the situation.
1198
01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:11,743
That's how you made
sure I'm not being mistreated.
1199
01:21:12,618 --> 01:21:13,653
Listen, I said...
1200
01:21:13,703 --> 01:21:15,197
I don't feel
safe with you in a room.
1201
01:21:15,247 --> 01:21:17,907
- Fine, good.
- I've said what I'm gonna say.
1202
01:21:17,957 --> 01:21:20,243
I'm gonna send you
an email to put it in writing
1203
01:21:20,293 --> 01:21:21,293
and that's that.
1204
01:22:45,837 --> 01:22:48,332
This truly is
a bittersweet week.
1205
01:22:48,382 --> 01:22:51,375
You know, bitter in the sense
that I always feel some grief
1206
01:22:51,425 --> 01:22:55,630
about saying goodbye to the
residents as they're leaving
1207
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,467
and really sweet because
it's such a celebratory time
1208
01:22:59,517 --> 01:23:01,510
because you've accomplished
1209
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,688
and achieved something
so hard. So hard.
1210
01:23:05,565 --> 01:23:09,935
As we all know, it really
takes a lot to be open-hearted
1211
01:23:09,985 --> 01:23:12,772
and to keep going back
again and again in this work
1212
01:23:12,822 --> 01:23:15,483
and to build those
muscles and that capacity
1213
01:23:15,533 --> 01:23:19,195
and wanna thank each
of you for your tears,
1214
01:23:19,245 --> 01:23:21,613
for your laughter.
1215
01:23:21,663 --> 01:23:23,575
Jessica, that you've
been able to join us
1216
01:23:23,625 --> 01:23:25,410
as a staff chaplain.
1217
01:23:25,460 --> 01:23:30,040
Michele, that you'll
be able to join us soon.
1218
01:23:30,090 --> 01:23:32,000
Fumiko, that you're leaving now,
1219
01:23:32,050 --> 01:23:34,010
but we hope to welcome you back.
1220
01:23:36,178 --> 01:23:39,632
Mati, who had to leave early
but really gave so much
1221
01:23:39,682 --> 01:23:42,143
of herself through the
course of this year.
1222
01:24:06,500 --> 01:24:09,295
I think I'm trying
to hold my own integrity with,
1223
01:24:10,297 --> 01:24:13,290
you know, not feeling closure
in certain goodbyes
1224
01:24:13,340 --> 01:24:16,427
and not pretending either.
1225
01:24:23,977 --> 01:24:27,563
But also leaving an
opening for until soon.
1226
01:25:14,527 --> 01:25:16,195
I recall you saying,
I cannot believe
1227
01:25:16,653 --> 01:25:20,275
I cannot believe
what my body can endure
1228
01:25:20,325 --> 01:25:23,235
and I just needed
to share that with somebody.
1229
01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:24,903
To let them know.
1230
01:25:24,953 --> 01:25:26,948
And what I felt in that moment,
1231
01:25:26,998 --> 01:25:29,500
through the tears, was awe.
1232
01:25:32,170 --> 01:25:34,422
It was this quiet strength.
1233
01:25:38,635 --> 01:25:40,170
I checked in for one thing,
1234
01:25:40,220 --> 01:25:43,632
I got four other things
happened since I've been here.
1235
01:25:43,682 --> 01:25:48,687
You got pancreatic cancer,
COVID, then liver failure,
1236
01:25:48,853 --> 01:25:53,265
aneurysm, bacteria
in the stomach?
1237
01:25:53,315 --> 01:25:54,725
Did I get that somewhat right?
1238
01:25:54,775 --> 01:25:55,775
Yeah.
1239
01:25:59,655 --> 01:26:00,948
Girl, your body...
1240
01:26:03,492 --> 01:26:04,818
it's been through a lot.
1241
01:26:04,868 --> 01:26:05,912
Yeah.
1242
01:26:16,213 --> 01:26:18,132
God, you are a waymaker.
1243
01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:22,595
You are such an awesome God
1244
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:26,048
that makes ways out of no ways
1245
01:26:26,098 --> 01:26:28,225
and we thank you for that, Lord.
1246
01:26:29,268 --> 01:26:34,273
God, I also thank you
for the power of yes.
1247
01:26:35,775 --> 01:26:40,313
I thank you for allowing
me to wake up every day,
1248
01:26:40,363 --> 01:26:44,275
allowing us to do
what you call us to do,
1249
01:26:44,325 --> 01:26:46,360
knowing that yesterday,
1250
01:26:46,410 --> 01:26:48,572
there's nothing
that we can do about it,
1251
01:26:48,622 --> 01:26:50,332
but learn for today.
1252
01:26:51,415 --> 01:26:54,452
God, we thank you
for your great expectations
1253
01:26:54,502 --> 01:26:55,545
over our lives.
1254
01:26:59,007 --> 01:27:03,085
We thank you for giving us
a window into the complexity
1255
01:27:03,135 --> 01:27:05,305
and intelligence
of the human body.
1256
01:27:11,477 --> 01:27:14,438
We know that better than many
1257
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:18,943
because we have
been through so much.
1258
01:27:20,570 --> 01:27:25,148
Lord our God, we ask
that you make it clear
1259
01:27:25,198 --> 01:27:29,287
what is the teaching you
wish for us to receive
1260
01:27:30,955 --> 01:27:32,123
in our suffering.
1261
01:27:35,125 --> 01:27:36,585
What is the teaching?
1262
01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:41,165
How might we receive it
1263
01:27:41,215 --> 01:27:44,093
and give it as a blessing
to others,
1264
01:27:45,595 --> 01:27:49,557
holding and standing our
ground with full integrity,
1265
01:27:50,767 --> 01:27:55,522
as a way of service to you,
as a way of service to spirit,
1266
01:27:56,688 --> 01:28:01,777
and a way to keep our temple
alive, breathing and well.
1267
01:28:06,198 --> 01:28:09,202
Once again, you came
on time, Margaret.
1268
01:28:10,370 --> 01:28:11,947
- Thank you.
- I was having a hard time
1269
01:28:11,997 --> 01:28:15,575
today, this morning,
to be honest with you.
1270
01:28:15,625 --> 01:28:18,620
And I was like, God, why?
1271
01:28:18,670 --> 01:28:19,912
Like, what's good?
1272
01:28:19,962 --> 01:28:21,247
Like, what's really good?
1273
01:28:21,297 --> 01:28:22,957
That's how I talk to him.
1274
01:28:23,007 --> 01:28:24,125
What's really good?
1275
01:28:24,175 --> 01:28:25,835
Like, what's going on?
1276
01:28:25,885 --> 01:28:29,972
Because I know you say you,
1277
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:32,342
you won't overbear us,
1278
01:28:32,392 --> 01:28:37,397
but did you really mean that I
could go through all of this?
1279
01:28:42,068 --> 01:28:45,447
He does amazing things,
that's why I can't be angry.
1280
01:28:48,573 --> 01:28:50,402
Because if I think about
all the things
1281
01:28:50,452 --> 01:28:52,153
that I've been through,
1282
01:28:52,203 --> 01:28:54,572
I lived through
every single one,
1283
01:28:54,622 --> 01:28:56,248
so it's not my time.
1284
01:29:00,014 --> 01:29:02,759
You know,
it's not your time, girl.
1285
01:29:03,005 --> 01:29:05,333
Now be quiet, get some rest
1286
01:29:05,383 --> 01:29:06,651
'cause you gonna have work to do
1287
01:29:06,675 --> 01:29:07,885
when you get outta here.
1288
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,513
And that's how I look at it
and I found my joy.
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