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I FIRST HEARD OF
THABO BESTER...
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IT MUST HAVE BEEN
SOME TIME DURING 2011,
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WHEN INITIALLY HIS SORT OF
CRIMES CAME TO THE FORE.
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SO I WAS ASKED TO COME
DOWN AND INTERVIEW HIM.
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I HAD A PRIVATE CAMERA
THAT I WAS USING.
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HE WAS QUITE HAPPY TO
TALK, AND ENDED UP SPEAKING
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FOR PROBABLY JUST
UNDER TWO HOURS.
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CAN YOU TELL ME THE
DETAILS OF THE CASES,
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THE TWO RAPES, AND
THE RAPE AND MURDER?
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WELL I CAN TELL YOU
WHAT HE TOLD ME, BUT...
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I read the papers,
and I feel like
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they're talking about
somebody else, not me.
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HE WAS REALLY NOT THE
MOST INTERESTING PERSON.
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HE REALLY, FOR ME, ONLY EVEN BECAME
INTERESTING ONCE HE ESCAPED PRISON
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AND WE REALISED ALL THE
SHENANIGANS THAT HE'D BEEN DOING.
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Our very own great Houdini.
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We don't even know what
his real name actually is.
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This could never, ever
have been pulled off
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without the complicity of
others within the system.
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WHEN THE THABO BESTER CASE
BASICALLY EXPLODED IN THE MEDIA,
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ALL THESE DETAILS WERE COMING
OUT, ALMOST BLOW BY BLOW.
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I WAS WATCHING SOCIAL MEDIA,
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I WAS WATCHING NORMAL
PEOPLE'S RESPONSE TO THIS,
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I WAS SEEING HOW PEOPLE KEPT
ON SHARING WHATEVER STORY.
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FOR ME, THE
IMPRESSION THAT I GOT,
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IT WAS AS IF PEOPLE WERE
WATCHING THIS AS ENTERTAINMENT.
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Hello, true crime lovers.
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♪ Happy birthday ♪
♪ Dear Tom ♪
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For a dead guy, he was
sure living his best life.
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Think Tinder Swindler meets
the Dating Game Killer
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meets Bonnie and Clyde.
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Not everyone who has
heard about this case
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thinks that Thabo is a villain.
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Thabo Bester is a genius.
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"OH MY WORD. LOOK AT THIS GUY.
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WE CANNOT BELIEVE THIS
MAN PULLED THIS OFF."
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AND AS A REPORTER ON
GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE,
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I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH,
I'VE INTERVIEWED A LOT OF WOMEN,
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I'VE SEEN GENDER-BASED
VIOLENCE IN MY COMMUNITY.
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I'VE EXPERIENCE IT,
YOU KNOW, MYSELF.
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I DON'T SIMPLY WORK IN
MEDIA AND, YOU KNOW,
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DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT
WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT,
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BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT
ANGLE ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE?
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THE MEDIA DOESN'T
TELL US WHAT TO THINK.
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THE MEDIA TELLS US
WHAT TO THINK ABOUT.
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WHEN I STARTED TO LOOK UP MORE
DETAILS ABOUT THE FACEBOOK RACIST,
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I HAD TO LITERALLY
SEARCH FOR MORE INFO.
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IT WAS LIKE THE RAPES
WERE NOT NEWSWORTHY.
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A MANHUNT IS UNDER WAY
FOR CONVICTED MURDERER
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AND A SO-CALLED FACEBOOK
RAPIST, THABO BESTER.
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BESTER ESCAPED FROM THE...
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AND ALL I COULD THINK
ABOUT WAS THOSE WOMEN,
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HIS VICTIMS, ESPECIALLY THE CASES
THAT HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF...
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I IMAGINED THEM GOING
THROUGH THAT TRAUMA AGAIN,
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BECAUSE HE'S NOW
FRONT AND CENTRE.
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Will the real Thabo
Bester please stand up?
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HIS FACE IS NOW EVERYWHERE.
HOW SCARED MUST THEY HAVE BEEN?
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FOR A LOT OF VICTIMS, IT
GIVES THEM SOME PEACE OF MIND,
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TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, THAT
HE'S GONNA PAY FOR HIS CRIMES,
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THAT HE'S LOCKED UP, AND THEN TO
FIND OUT, IN A WAVE OF MEDIA STORIES,
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THAT NO, THIS PERSON IS
NO LONGER BEHIND BARS.
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I THINK WHAT WE'RE FORGETTING IN ALL
OF THIS IS THAT HE MURDERED SOMEONE.
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IN THIS INVESTIGATION, I
FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT
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TO AT LEAST TRY TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT BESTER WAS THINKING,
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AND THAT MADE ME LOOK A BIT
CLOSER INTO HIS UPBRINGING
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AND IT SORT OF PAINTED A PICTURE
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WHICH MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY HE DECIDED
TO TURN TO A LIFE OF CRIME.
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OBVIOUSLY, IT DOESN'T
EXCUSE WHAT HE DID,
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BUT IT DID HELP GIVE ME
A BIT OF A BETTER IDEA
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OF WHY HE DECIDED
TO TURN TO CRIME.
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HE WAS BORN ON THE
13TH OF JUNE 1985.
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HE WAS NOT BORN IN THE
MOST IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
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THABO BESTER'S EARLY LIFE AND
THE DETAILS SURROUNDING IT
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ARE RELATIVELY UNKNOWN,
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BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK
TO HIS MOTHER, MEISIE MABASO.
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SHE TOLD US THAT SHE WAS RAPED
WHEN SHE WAS ABOUT 16 YEARS OLD,
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AND THAT BESTER WAS A
PRODUCT OF THAT RAPE.
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SO BESTER'S CIRCUMSTANCES FROM THE
GET-GO WAS ALREADY QUITE DIFFICULT.
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ACCORDING TO HIS MOTHER,
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WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO HIM AT
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THE CHRIS HANI
BARAGWANATH HOSPITAL,
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SHE DIDN'T HAVE HER PASS BOOK
WITH HER, AND BECAUSE OF THAT,
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BESTER'S BIRTH WAS
NOT REGISTERED,
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AND HE HAD NOT BEEN
GIVEN AN ID NUMBER.
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MANY PEOPLE THINK
THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE
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ONLY AFFECTING REFUGEES OR MIGRANTS
OR FOREIGNERS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES,
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BUT IN FACT, THERE'S SEVERAL
THOUSANDS OF SOUTH AFRICANS
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WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO EVEN GET BIRTH
CERTIFICATES OR IDENTITY DOCUMENTS.
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YOU CANNOT LIVE A MEANINGFUL LIFE IN
SOUTH AFRICA WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.
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ALMOST EVERY ENCOUNTER THAT YOU HAVE
WITH AN INSTITUTION OR A DEPARTMENT
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REQUIRES YOU TO PRODUCE SOME
FORM OF IDENTITY DOCUMENTS.
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IT CAN FORCE A CHILD
INTO A STATE OF ISOLATION
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WHERE YOU STRUGGLE TO GRAPPLE
WITH YOUR SENSE OF IDENTITY
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AND YOUR SENSE OF BELONGING.
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SO FOR SOMEONE LIKE THABO BESTER,
WHO WAS ESSENTIALLY NO ONE,
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HE'S NOT REGISTERED,
HE COULD BECOME ANYONE.
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Murderer and rapist Thabo Bester
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is still keeping
authorities on their feet.
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Home affairs has said they don't
have any record of his birth.
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During the time
when Thabo was born,
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there were no Home Affairs.
This system was not there.
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WHEN MEISIE GOT A JOB,
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SHE DECIDED TO LEAVE THE
CHILDREN BEHIND WITH HER PARENTS.
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HIS GRANNY DIED, AND
APPARENTLY KIND OF
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REALLY WAS A CAREGIVER FOR HIM.
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HE'S BEEN LOOKED AFTER BY
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HIS GRANDFATHER, WHO,
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ACCORDING TO HIM, WAS
A RAGING ALCOHOLIC
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WHO DIDN'T EVEN
LOOK AFTER HIMSELF,
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LET ALONE, YOU KNOW,
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A LITTLE KID WHO'S
12, 13 YEARS OLD.
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DIDN'T MAKE SURE
HE GOES TO SCHOOL.
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AND ESSENTIALLY, SORT OF,
JUST.. HE DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL.
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AND THEN NEEDED MONEY,
SO HE STARTED TO HUSTLE,
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AND HE SAW THAT IF HE WAS HITCHHIKING
IN HIS SCHOOL UNIFORM, YOU KNOW,
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HE COULD SPIN A STORY
TO WHOEVER STOPPED,
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AND THEY WOULD GIVE HIM R5 OR
WHATEVER MONEY THAT, YOU KNOW...
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AND HE REALISED, "OKAY,
HANG ON A MINUTE.
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I CAN USE THIS AS A WAY
OF GENERATING AN INCOME."
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AND REALLY, THAT.. HIS CONNING
THEREFORE STARTED WHEN HE WAS,
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YOU KNOW, IN HIS EARLY,
EARLY, EARLY TEENS.
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HE WOULD WALK AROUND
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AND HE WOULD ASK THE
RESIDENTS THERE FOR MONEY.
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HE SAID THAT HE, AS A
CHILD, HAD GONE TO SANDTON
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AND HAD BEEN AMAZED AT ALL THESE
FANCY HOUSES AND FANCY CARS,
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AND PEOPLE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT
INDUSTRY LIVING THIS HIGH LIFE,
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AND HE WANTS THAT
FOR HIMSELF ONE DAY.
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AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MEISIE WANTED
HER CHILDREN TO LIVE WITH HER AGAIN,
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BUT BESTER TOLD HER
THAT HE HATED SHACKS,
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AND THAT HE WAS NOT
GOING TO LIVE IN A SHACK.
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IF YOU LOOK AROUND IN
SOUTH AFRICA TODAY,
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IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT THERE
ARE JUST SO MANY BAD APPLES
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WHO ARE OUT THERE FOR
THEIR OWN PERSONAL GAIN.
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AT SOME POINT, IT'S THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR SOCIETY TO SAY,
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"WHY ARE WE PRODUCING SO MANY
OF THESE EXPLOITATIVE FIGURES?"
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IT'S BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY OF
SUCH HARSH CONDITIONS OF DEPRIVATION
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EXISTING AT THE SAME TIME OF
SUCH GRAND CONDITIONS OF WEALTH.
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AND THAT INEQUALITY IS, I THINK,
THE LINK IN THIS CHAIN OF CAUSATION,
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WHERE MANY PEOPLE THEN DECIDE,
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"YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS A GAME
THAT IS STACKED AGAINST ME
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THAT I AM GOING TO LEARN TO
PERFECT AND MASTER FOR MY BENEFIT,
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AND I'll DO WHAT IT
TAKES TO MAKE IT."
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SOME YEARS LATER, MEISIE WENT
BACK TO THEIR HOME IN EIKENHOFF
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TO GO AND FETCH BESTER, ONLY TO
FIND THAT HE WAS NO LONGER THERE,
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AND THERE'S THIS GAP
IN HIS EXISTENCE...
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UP UNTIL 2004 WHEN
MEISIE WAS CALLED
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TO COLLECT BESTER FROM PRISON.
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AND FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, HE
HAD BEEN ARRESTED FOR PETTY CRIMES.
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LOOK AT THABO BESTER'S
PERSONALITY PROFILE,
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AND IN MY CLINICAL
OBSERVATION FROM A DISTANCE,
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IT GIVES ME A
PERSONALITY PROFILE
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OF SOMEONE WITH ANTISOCIAL
PERSONALITY DISORDER.
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A DISORDER OF SOMEONE WHO HAS
NO REGARD FOR WRONGFULNESS,
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NO APPRECIATION FOR
ACCOUNTABILITY, IMPULSIVITY,
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I GET THE SENSE THAT THERE WAS NO
PARENTAL MOTHER-SON RELATIONSHIP
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THAT WAS HEALTHY.
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MEISIE IS DEFINITELY
IN EMOTIONAL AGONY
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FOLLOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAS
HAPPENED WITH THABO BESTER.
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IT'S QUITE EVIDENT THAT HER
SPEECH IS SOMEWHAT SCATTERED
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AND THAT HER THOUGHTS
ARE A BIT DISPLACED.
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ACCORDING TO HER, THAT IS BECAUSE
OF THE STROKE THAT SHE SUFFERED.
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AND SHE RELIES ON A
R350 SOCIAL GRANT.
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MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE ALSO GROWN UP IN
SOME VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES...
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BUT THEY DIDN'T TURN OUT TO
BECOME RAPISTS AND MURDERERS.
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I THINK SOME ARE BORN BAD,
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AND SOME ARE PERHAPS BORN BAD
BUT THEIR GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES
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MIGHT TEMPER THEIR BEHAVIOUR.
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ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW,
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GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES
OR BAD CIRCUMSTANCES
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MIGHT MAKE THEM TO DO
THINGS OUT OF DESPERATION.
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WE'VE SEEN THAT. YOU
KNOW, CORPORATE THIEVES
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WHO GREW UP WITH A SILVER
SPOON IN THEIR MOUTH
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END IP STEALING
MILLIONS AND BILLIONS.
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THABO COMES ACROSS AS
AN AGGRESSIVE PERSON
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WHO FEELS THE NEED THAT THE
WORLD OWES HIM SOMETHING.
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SO THE MINUTE THAT HE DISCOVERED
HIS ABILITY TO FEND FOR SELF,
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IT DIDN'T MATTER, "HOW
AM I GOING TO DO THAT?"
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♪ Happy birthday ♪
♪ Dear Tom ♪
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YOU CAN SEE IT FROM A DISTANCE.
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HE USES THE TOOL TO CHARM
PEOPLE TO GET AWAY WITH THINGS.
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IF I LOOK WHAT'S
HAPPENED IN THE ENTIRETY
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OF HIS BEHAVIOUR, HE JUST
REALLY SEEMS TO BE SOMEONE
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WHO DOESN'T REALLY HAVE
EMPATHY FOR OTHERS,
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DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE
CONSEQUENCES OF HIS BEHAVIOUR,
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CLEARLY DOESN'T LEARN
FROM HIS MISTAKES,
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'CAUSE HE HAD BEEN ARRESTED
A FEW TIMES, YOU KNOW,
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DIVERTED FROM PRISON,
THEN IN PRISON.
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AND NOTHING CHANGED HIS
BEHAVIOUR, IT DIDN'T THWART HIM
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OR PUT HIM ON A BETTER PATH.
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SO THAT KINDA PERSONALITY THAT
HE WILL CONTINUE IN THIS FASHION.
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IN THABO BESTER'S
MODUS OPERANDI,
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WE KNOW HE HAD TO
BE THE MAIN MAN.
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There's a guy
named Thabo Bester.
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He was known as the
Facebook Rapist.
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And I can't tell you how
legit this oke seemed.
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Thabo Bester was a charismatic,
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well-dressed and
well-spoken man,
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who also happened to
be a bombastic scammer.
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He was talking
about big salaries.
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HE USES BIG BRANDS AND BIG
NAMES TO KINDA LURE PEOPLE IN.
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It sounded so exciting.
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I thought something really positive
was about to happen in my life.
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HE NEEDED LAPTOPS,
EQUIPMENT, MODELS.
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My sister, who's the smart
one, she really smelled a rat.
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HE CAME TO ME SAYING
HE'S FROM DSTV.
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DSTV BY THEN, JA.
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JOHNNY AND I WERE THINKING OF
BEING THE BIGGEST PRODUCERS,
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HOLLYWOOD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
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IT WAS AT THAT TIME I GOT
A CALL FROM A GUY SAYING,
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"LISTEN, I FOUND YOUR
COMPANY ON THE INTERNET."
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I'M COMING DOWN TO PRETORIA TO
SHOOT A PROMO FOR DSTV CHANNEL.
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"AND I WANT TO HIRE YOUR COMPANY TO
COME SHOOT THIS ENTIRE PRODUCTION."
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- HM.
- I WAS EXCITED,
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BECAUSE THIS WAS THE
FIRST OPPORTUNITY.
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WE'D JUST REGISTERED
THE COMPANY,
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AND THIS IS THE THING
THAT YOU WANTED TO DO.
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AND I HAD A MEETING
WITH THE GUY.
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AND AFTER OUR MEETING, I
IMMEDIATELY CALLED JOHNNY AND SAID,
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"HEY, JOHNNY, WE HAVE A GIG, AND
THIS GIG NEEDS ABOUT 20 MODELS.
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THESE MODELS NEED TO BRING
THEIR OWN LAPTOPS AS WELL.
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IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN HELP
THIS PRODUCTION HAPPEN?"
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I GET EXCITED.
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THEN THE SHOOT HAPPENED, I
THINK, THE FOLLOWING DAY, RIGHT?
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- MM. MM.
- JA.
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WAS IT ON A WEDNESDAY,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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- JA.
- I MANAGED TO ORGANISE, YOU KNOW,
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THOSE 20 MODELS, AND THEN THEY
SHOULD BRING THEIR LAPTOPS.
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MOST GIRLS, THEY NEVER HAD..
THEY HAD TOP BORROW LAPTOPS.
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I CALLED A FRIEND OF OURS
WHO HAD TO GIVE US A CAMERA.
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WE DIDN'T JUST BOUGHT, WITHIN
A MONTH, LIKE, NEW CAMERA.
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SO THERE WE ARE, WE
MET AT A B&B.
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THEN BEAUTIFUL MODELS CAME THERE,
WE GAVE THEM THE WOW SITUATION.
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I GOT TO MEET THABO THERE.
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WE KNEW HIM AS
THOMAS THABO BESTER.
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LOOK, THIS GUY,
THE WAY HE DRESSES,
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THE WAY HE CARRIES
HIMSELF AND SPEAKS,
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YOU WOULD BELIEVE
ANYTHING THAT HE SAYS.
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JA, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER, HE
WAS WEARING THE WHITE SHIRT
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AND THE WAISTCOAT. JA.
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BUT THABO HAD TOLD ME
THAT IT'S A DSTV GIG,
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AND WHEN I STARTED
ASKING HIM QUESTIONS,
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"OKAY, FINE, DO YOU HAVE A SCRIPT?
I NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SCRIPT.
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"WHAT KIND OF SHOTS DO YOU
WANT?" NOW IT'S A KYKNET GIG.
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HE WAS WORKING PURPOSEFULLY
THAT WE DON'T TALK.
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HE DID IT SO WELL.
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HE WAS GETTING UPSET WITH ME
BECAUSE OF ASKING QUESTIONS.
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SIMPLE QUESTIONS, LIKE YOU WANT
TO MAKE SENSE OF SOMETHING.
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THABO BESTER SAID BEFORE WE SHOOT,
WE NEED TO HAVE LUNCH FIRST.
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AND THEN...
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THEN HE SAYS, "OKAY, EVERYONE,
LEAVE YOUR BELONGINGS IN THE CARS,
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BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COME BACK, BUT WE
HAVE TO GO HAVE LUNCH AND WHATEVER."
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SO JOHNNY SAYS, "MATHABA,
LET'S TAKE THE CAMERA WITH."
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- HE INSISTED.
- I.. YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
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I INSISTED ON THAT,
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AND THEN THABO HIMSELF, HE SAID,
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"I'M NOT INSURING THIS CAMERA...
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IT'S NOT INSURED WHILE YOU'RE TAKING
IT, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU INSIDE."
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. SO I TOOK IT BACK.
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AND THEN WE WENT TO SPUR, AND
THABO BESTER HIT THE TABLE,
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GETTING ALL OUR
ATTENTION, AND SAYS,
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"ORDER AS MUCH AS YOU
WANT. IT'S ON ME."
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SO, I MEAN, PEOPLE
WERE GOING FOR IT.
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HE SPOKE TO THE SHUTTLE GUYS,
HE WANTED THE KEYS FROM THEM.
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AND TIME STARTED TICKING
AND TICKING AND TICKING.
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I WAS ALREADY IN THE
RADIO AND MEDIA INDUSTRY
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FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
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THERE WAS A FULL-ON PRODUCTION
CREW, MAKEUP ARTISTS,
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THERE MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT 30
FINALISTS, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE.
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AND THAT WAS THE FIRST
TIME I SAW THABO BESTER.
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AND WE WERE TOLD IT'S ONE
MALE AND ONE FEMALE PRESENTER
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WHO'S GOING TO GO THROUGH
TO THE FINAL ROUND.
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YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE SIZE
OF THE PRODUCTION CREW,
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THE ADJUDICATION PANEL AND THE
JUDGES, IT ALL WAS VERY LEGITIMATE.
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WE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH
INTERACTION WITH HIM
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ON THE FIRST TWO
DAYS OF AUDITIONS.
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IT WAS ONLY SUBSEQUENT TO
THAT, ON THE THIRD ROUND,
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WHEN THERE WERE JUST
THE FOUR FINALISTS EACH.
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AND THAT IS WHEN WE HAD
ONE-ON-ONE INTERACTION WITH HIM.
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AND HE ASKED TO MEET US AT
ABOUT 20:00 THAT EVENING,
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AND THAT'S WHEN I FELT
A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE.
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I THEN CALLED ONE OF THE OTHER
FINALISTS, ONE OF THE GIRLS,
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AND I ASKED HER IF SHE
WOULD RATHER GO TOGETHER,
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AND WHEN BOTH OF US ARRIVED,
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I THINK HE WAS QUITE TAKEN ABACK
TO SEE THAT I WAS NOT ALONE.
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I THINK HE HAD NO OPTION BUT TO
JUST MEET WITH US IN AN OPEN AREA.
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HE WAS VERY ORDINARY, NO
CLASSIC PRODUCER-TV VIBE,
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BUT HIS INSIGHT AND HIS
KNOWLEDGE OF THE INDUSTRY,
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AND HOW IT OPERATES,
WAS ON POINT.
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I COULD NOT FAULT HIM
FOR RUNNING ANY OF THIS
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IN A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE
RAISED ANY RED FLAGS.
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00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,075
WE KNOW THAT THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF SERIALS
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IN SOUTH AFRICA, RAPISTS,
SERIAL MURDERERS,
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WILL USE SOME KIND OF A CON
STORY TO LURE THEIR VICTIM AWAY,
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AND THAT'S TYPICALLY
AN OFFER OF EMPLOYMENT.
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HE DID THE EXACT
SAME THING HERE,
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HE WAS PERHAPS JUST A
BIT MORE SOPHISTICATED.
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AND ALSO, HIS TARGET
MARKET WAS SMARTER.
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YOU KNOW, HE WAS SORT OF
TARGETING SORT OF THE MODEL GIRLS,
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PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE ON THE
INTERNET, FACEBOOK, SOCIAL MEDIA,
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LOOKING ON SITES FOR JOB
OPPORTUNITIES AS MODELS.
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WHEREAS YOUR AVERAGE
SERIAL RAPIST
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WILL LITERALLY WALK AROUND THE
STREETS, AROUND A TAXI RANK,
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AND WALK UP TO A LADY AND SAY,
"ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A JOB?"
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WE MET AT A CENTRAL
PICKUP POINT.
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IT WAS MYSELF AND TWO OTHER FEMALE
PRESENTERS WHO WERE SELECTED.
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WHAT KIND OF, AT THAT POINT, YOU
KNOW, RANG A RED FLAG IN MY MIND
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WAS WHERE WERE THE
MALE PRESENTERS?
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AND WHEN WE ASKED
HIM THAT, HE SAID,
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OH, NO, HE'S DECIDED TO
DROP THE MALE PRESENTERS
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AND HE'S JUST GOING WITH TWO FEMALE
PRESENTERS THAT HE WOULD CHOOSE.
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THAT JUST MADE US FEEL
A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE,
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AND HE WANTED US TO TRAVEL WITH HIM
WITH THE CAMERA CREW IN THE MINIVAN
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TO THE LOCATION IN RICHARDS BAY.
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YOU KNOW, WHY ONLY WOMEN?
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IF YOUR GOAL IS JUST TO GET
LAPTOPS, IT COULD BE MEN.
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MAYBE HE FELT THAT HE IS ABLE
TO MANIPULATE WOMEN BETTER.
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IF HE WAS MORE COMFORTABLE
MANIPULATING WOMEN,
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USE CERTAIN CHARMS, WHICH, YOU
KNOW, IF IT'S A HETEROSEXUAL MALE,
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THOSE CHARMS MIGHT NOT WORK.
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AND THEN JOHNNY SAYS TO ME,
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"THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
GONE FOR A WHILE NOW."
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THREE HOURS BECAME FOUR HOURS.
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00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,835
THE MANAGER CAME TO US AND
SAID, "HEY, I NEED MY SPACE.
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CAN YOU PAY YOUR
BILL AND GO HOME?"
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00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,355
THABO IS NOWHERE TO BE
FOUND. THE SHUTTLE IS GONE.
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THE CAMERA IS GONE.
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00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,476
THE MANAGER OF SPUR
CALLED THE POLICE.
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BACK THEN, I THINK THE
BILL WAS ABOUT 15,000 PLUS.
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00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:25,315
AND THEN EVERYONE
LOOKED AT ME AND SAID,
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"HEY, SINCE YOU ARE THE
THABO BESTER RIGHT HAND MAN,
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00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:30,555
YOU NEED TO SETTLE THE BILL."
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THABO BECAME A GHOST, I BECAME,
HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING,
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THABO BESTER, BECAUSE NOW I NEED TO
ANSWER FOR THIS MESS THAT IS HERE.
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00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,960
JA. DAMN. THAT'S WHEN
THE FRUSTRATION COMES.
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ONE OF THE LADIES'
FIANCE, WHO WAS WITH US,
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FELT A BIT UNCOMFORTABLE AND
DIDN'T WANT HER TO TRAVEL ALONE,
337
00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:53,160
AND HE SUGGESTED THAT HE
WOULD DRIVE US THERE AND BACK.
338
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,476
WHEN WE SAID TO TOM BESTER
THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW IN CONVOY,
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00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,156
HE SEEMED VERY
IRRITATED AND ANGRY.
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00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,079
AT THAT TIME, WE COULDN'T
UNDERSTAND HIS REACTION.
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00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,396
AS WE WERE DRIVING,
IT WAS JUST INTUITION.
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00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,115
SOMETHING DIDN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME,
AND I DECIDED TO GOOGLE HIS NAME,
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00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,996
AND WHEN I DID
THAT, I WAS SHOCKED,
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00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,755
BECAUSE I FOUND THAT THERE WERE A FEW
CASES OF RAPE AND ABUSE AGAINST HIM.
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00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:26,755
THAT WAS JUST HARROWING,
AND IT SHOCKED ALL OF US.
346
00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:29,636
AND AT THAT POINT, WE
HAD TO MAKE A DECISION.
347
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,436
DO WE JUST TURN AROUND AND
LEAVE, OR DO WE FOLLOW HIM?
348
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,400
I CALLED THE BED AND
BREAKFAST THAT HE WAS AT.
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00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:41,676
THE OWNER SAID TO ME HE
HAD JUST UPPED AND LEFT.
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00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,396
HE WAS LIVING THERE FOR TWO WEEKS
AND HE HADN'T EVEN PAID THEM.
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00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,956
WE THEN FRANTICALLY GOT HOLD OF THE
POLICE, EXPLAINED THE STORY TO THEM,
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00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,956
TRYING TO GET HOLD OF
SOMEONE WHO COULD ASSIST US,
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00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,200
ASKING THEM TO INTERCEPT THE
VEHICLE EN ROUTE TO RICHARDS BAY.
354
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,755
AS WE GOT INTO RICHARDS BAY,
355
00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:03,996
WE COULD SEE THAT THERE WAS
NO SIGN OF ANY POLICE FORCE
356
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,795
THAT WERE THERE TO ASSIST US.
357
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,236
IT WAS A LONG-ASS NIGHT, BECAUSE
THE POLICE ARE ASKING US,
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"WHO CONNECTED WITH THABO BESTER?"
THEN THEY SAID, "IT'S MATHABA."
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00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,515
SO NOW THE POLICE ARE PUTTING
PRESSURE ON ME TO SAY, LIKE,
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00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:23,956
"LOOK, THIS GUY, HE KNOWS. HE'S NOT
TELLING YOU THE TRUTH. HE KNOWS."
361
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,196
AND THE WAY THEY'RE
PUTTING IT, I FIGURE THAT,
362
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,960
"NO, I THINK HE KNOWS."
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00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:33,876
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TOM
BESTER WAS TIPPED OFF,
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00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,595
OR WHETHER HE JUST FELT
THAT SOMETHING WAS STRANGE,
365
00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:39,436
BECAUSE HE SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED.
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00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,676
THE DETECTIVE WHO WAS THERE TOLD ME
SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING, THAT,
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00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,035
"LISTEN, THIS IS A FRAUD
CASE. THE GUY IS A CON ARTIST.
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00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:49,996
HE'S A FRAUDSTER. YOU'LL
NEVER FIND THIS GUY."
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00:22:56,839 --> 00:22:58,476
SO I'VE JUST GOTTEN
OVER THIS EXPERIENCE
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00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,436
OF BEING IN A CAR CHASE WITH
A CRIMINAL, AND A WEEK LATER,
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00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,275
AS I GET TO WORK
AT SABC STUDIOS,
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00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:10,119
I SEE TOM BESTER WALKING
OUT OF THE STUDIO AS WELL.
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00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:16,436
I WAS HORRIFIED, AND I GOT SECURITY
TO MAKE ENQUIRIES AS TO WHERE HE WAS.
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00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,720
HE HAD JUST GOTTEN OFF
AIR FROM UKHOZI FM.
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00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,835
HE DEFINITELY PUSHES
THE BOUNDARIES,
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00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:25,436
AND I THINK THAT'S
WHY HE WAS SUCCESSFUL,
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00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,835
HE HAD THE GUTS TO TELL PEOPLE THAT
HE WORKED FOR MTV OR THIS OR THAT,
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00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,275
THAT HE JUST WILL
TAKE THAT RISK.
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00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:37,476
AND HE WAS ON AIR
PITCHING FOR NEW TALENT.
380
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,436
HE WAS JUST SO BRAZEN,
NOT A CARE IN THIS WORLD,
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00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,676
THAT HE COULD COME OFF SO
CLEARLY JUST A WEEK LATER,
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00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,119
START PLANNING A WHOLE NEW SCAM.
383
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,835
I DID CONTACT THE DURBAN
NORTH POLICE STATION
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AFTER SEEING HIM AT SABC STUDIOS,
AND INFORMED THEM OF HIS WHEREABOUTS,
385
00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,956
THAT HE WAS STILL
IN DURBAN AND KZN,
386
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:04,240
AND THEY SHOULD POSSIBLY LOOK
INTO TRYING TO APPREHEND HIM.
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00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,956
WELL I'M THE CPF CHAIRPERSON,
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00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,436
THE COMMUNITY POLICE
FORUM CHAIRPERSON
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00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,075
FOR DURBAN NORTH AND UMHLANGA.
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00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,275
THE COMMUNITY POLICE FORUM
OBVIOUSLY IS THE LINK
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00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,035
BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY
AND THE POLICE.
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00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:15,595
IT'S ABOUT FORGING RELATIONSHIPS
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00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,436
AND GETTING THE COMMUNITY
TO WORK WITH THE POLICE
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00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,440
AND THE POLICE TO WORK
WITH THE COMMUNITY.
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00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:28,515
WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT A RAPE HAD
OCCURRED. THAT'S A RARE THING.
396
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:31,916
YOU DON'T HAVE THESE TYPES
OF VIOLENT CRIME IN OUR AREA.
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00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,676
IT BECAME A HIGH-PROFILE
CASE FAIRLY QUICKLY,
398
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,515
ESPECIALLY WHEN WERE NOTIFIED
THAT THE PERSON WAS ROBBED
399
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,480
AND THE SUSPECT
WAS ON THE LOOSE.
400
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,555
THE SUNDAY NEWSPAPER HAD
AN ARTICLE OF TOM BESTER,
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00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,716
AND THERE WAS HIS
FACE ON THE NEWSPAPER
402
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,035
SAYING THAT HE HAD RAPED,
STRANGLED, AND STABBED HER.
403
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,236
THANKFULLY, SHE
SURVIVED THE ORDEAL,
404
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,636
BUT HE HAD MADE OFF WITH HER
PERSONAL POSSESSIONS AND HER CAR.
405
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,555
IT ANGERED AND FRUSTRATED ME
406
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:05,436
THAT IF ONLY, AT THE TIME, THE
POLICE HAD TAKEN US MORE SERIOUSLY
407
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,075
WHEN WE REPORTED THIS
INCIDENT IN MARCH OF 2011,
408
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,000
A RAPIST AND MURDERER WOULD
HAVE BEEN APPREHENDED.
409
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,035
AND WE FOUND HIS FACEBOOK
PAGE FAIRLY QUICKLY,
410
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:20,876
AND STARTED TO SEE THE INTERACTIONS
HE WAS HAVING WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
411
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,279
YOU COULD SEE HE WAS
SLICK, SUPER SLICK.
412
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,075
Chad Thomas is joining
us via Zoom. Chad?
413
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:32,436
Look, South Africa
is in the midst
414
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,035
of a horrific
violent crime cycle.
415
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:39,436
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING,
BECAUSE IT WAS THE VERY FIRST
416
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,476
SOCIAL MEDIA CRIME OF
MAGNITUDE THAT WAS REPORTED ON.
417
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,755
EVERYBODY WAS INTRIGUED BY
THE FACEBOOK RAPIST STORY,
418
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:48,876
AND FOLLOWED IT INTENSELY.
419
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,315
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PRIVATE
INVESTIGATOR WORTH THEIR SALT
420
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:54,716
THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW
HIGH-PROFILE CASES.
421
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,075
I THINK EVERYBODY HAD
A FACEBOOK PROFILE,
422
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,716
AND FACEBOOK WAS THE GO-TO
SOCIAL MEDIA IN SOUTH AFRICA.
423
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,075
SO WE ALL CHECKED OUR
FACEBOOK RELIGIOUSLY.
424
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:05,835
IT WAS THE FIRST THING
WE DID IN THE MORNING,
425
00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:08,000
IT WAS THE LAST THING
WE DID AT NIGHT.
426
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,396
BACK IN THOSE DAYS,
WE WERE VERY NAIVE,
427
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,275
WE WERE VERY GREEN WHEN IT CAME
TO THE DANGERS OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
428
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,916
NOWADAYS, IN HINDSIGHT,
YOU THINK TO YOURSELF,
429
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,515
"BUT SO MUCH FRAUD AND CRIME HAS
BEEN PERPETRATED VIA SOCIAL MEDIA."
430
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:24,720
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S
BECOME SECOND NATURE TO US.
431
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,355
MY DAUGHTER PHONED
ME AND TOLD ME
432
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,275
SHE HAD A JOB
INTERVIEW IN DURBAN.
433
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,115
SHE WAS LIVING IN
JOBURG AT THE TIME.
434
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,236
MTV PRESENTER, IF I
REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
435
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,876
FANTASTIC OFFER, ONE OF THOSE
TOO-GOOD-TO-BE-TRUE OFFERS.
436
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,835
SHE WAS MODELLING FOR "FHM", AND
HE HAD CONTACTED HER THROUGH THAT,
437
00:26:55,839 --> 00:27:00,636
AND SHE WENT AND MET HIM
AT THE SABC COFFEE SHOP.
438
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,795
HE HAD ALL THE DOCUMENTATION
TO PROVE WHO HE WAS.
439
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,476
BUSINESS CARDS, EVERYTHING.
440
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,519
AND IT WAS LEGIT. HE WAS
IN THE SABC BUILDING.
441
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:13,716
AT THE TIME, I WAS
LIVING IN DURBAN,
442
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,035
SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY
TO GET TO SEE HER.
443
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:21,916
THEY DROVE DOWN IN HER CAR TO
CITY LODGE, AND THEN SHE ARRIVED,
444
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,555
AND SHE COULDN'T SEE ME
WHEN SHE GOT TO DURBAN,
445
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,355
BECAUSE SHE HAD TO GO AND
HAVE HER HAIR AND MAKEUP
446
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,396
AND ALL THE REST DONE, SO I
SAT WAITING FOR HER TO PHONE
447
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,196
TO GO AND JOIN HER.
448
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,400
I GOT A PHONE CALL AND IT SAID
I NEEDED TO GET THERE URGENTLY.
449
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,319
AND THEY SAID MY
DAUGHTER WAS RAPED.
450
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,755
AT THAT STAGE, I WAS
SITTING IN MY PYJAMAS.
451
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:50,236
I GOT DRESSED QUICKLY,
452
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,515
AND PUT HAZARDS ON AND
DROVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
453
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,599
IT WAS A HUGE SHOCK.
454
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,795
IT WAS THE LAST
THING ON MY MIND,
455
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:01,680
WHAT I WAS GOING
TO BE WALKING INTO.
456
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:08,240
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I EXPECTED,
BUT.. SEEING HER SITTING THERE...
457
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,720
AND THEN I SAW HE
HAD TAKEN HER...
458
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:17,436
HAIR STRAIGHTENER, THE CABLES
FROM THE HAIR STRAIGHTENER,
459
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,319
AND USED THOSE TO TIE HER UP.
460
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,079
THEN THE POLICE ARRIVED.
461
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:28,835
AND FROM DURBAN NORTH POLICE STATION
THEY WENT DOWN TO ADDINGTON HOSPITAL,
462
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:30,716
TO THE DISTRICT SURGEON.
463
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,880
THE DISTRICT SURGEON, HE SAT
THERE WITH HIS BACK TO HER...
464
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,279
WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
465
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:43,716
I KNOW IT'S A JOB FOR HIM,
466
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,555
BUT THE JOB HE'S DOING IS
WITH PEOPLE THAT NEED EMPATHY.
467
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,279
IN SOUTH AFRICA, AS WOMEN,
OUR BODIES ARE CRIME SCENES.
468
00:28:57,079 --> 00:29:02,876
GOING AND REPORTING INCIDENCES,
WHETHER OF ABUSE OR RAPE,
469
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,476
IS ONE OF THE
HARDEST THINGS TO DO.
470
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,396
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROVE
THIS HAPPENED TO YOU.
471
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,676
THE POLICE GOT A IDENTIKIT
FROM MY DAUGHTER,
472
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400
AND THEY STARTED
TRACKING HIM DOWN.
473
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,595
WE HAD BEGIN POLICE INVESTIGATION,
AND TO TRY AN TRACK THE CELLPHONE,
474
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:24,436
TRACK THE TABLET
THAT HE'D STOLEN.
475
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,115
AND HE'D TAKEN HER CAR, AS WELL,
WHICH WAS QUITE QUICKLY RECOVERED.
476
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:30,795
AND OBVIOUSLY FINGERPRINTED
AND PROCESSED.
477
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,436
HE USED HER CREDIT
CARD TO COMMIT FRAUD,
478
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,275
AND WE TRACKED HIM VIA
CCTV FOOTAGE TO GATEWAY,
479
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,275
AND HIT THE MAXIMUM
LIMIT THAT HE COULD.
480
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,476
EVENTUALLY WE LANDED UP WITH
ABOUT 15 DIFFERENT ALIASES.
481
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,761
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DOING
AS MUCH RESEARCH AS WE COULD.
482
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:54,115
CLEARLY, THABO KNEW HOW TO
DISPOSE OF THE CELLPHONES,
483
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:56,355
HE KNEW HOW TO DISPOSE
OF CERTAIN ITEMS.
484
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,035
AND ESSENTIALLY, WE TRACKED
HIM BACK TO DURBAN CENTRAL,
485
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,640
A KNOWN PLACE TO DISPOSE
OF STOLEN ELECTRONIC GOODS.
486
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,476
AND THEN THE TRAIL WENT COLD.
487
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,355
I BELIEVE SHE WASN'T THE FIRST,
SHE DEFINITELY WASN'T THE LAST.
488
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:19,636
SO GETTING HIM OFF THE STREET
WASN'T EVEN A QUESTION,
489
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,279
IT HAD TO HAPPEN,
HE HAD TO BE CAUGHT.
490
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,156
AND FOR MY DAUGHTER, FOR MY
DAUGHTER MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
491
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:33,075
UNFORTUNATELY, IT SOUNDS SELFISH,
BUT FOR WHAT HE DID TO HER.
492
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,480
I COULDN'T STOP UNTIL
HE HAD BEEN CAUGHT.
493
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:40,559
I LOST LOTS OF FRIENDS BECAUSE
OF IT, BECAUSE I WAS SO DRIVEN.
494
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:44,599
YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND,
I GOT ANGRY.
495
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:49,359
PEOPLE SAY, "HOW ARE YOU? ARE
YOU OKAY?" WHAT DO THEY THINK?
496
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,396
NO. YOU'RE NEVER FINE.
497
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,795
I don't know how many times
I gotta talk about this.
498
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:58,916
I don't know how many times
we gotta bring up the list.
499
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,515
Why the hashtag's trend
when another one's dead.
500
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:04,079
When another one's friend
didn't make it to the end.
501
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,555
- Justice!
- When do we want it?
502
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,876
Now!
503
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,755
WE KNOW THAT GENDER-BASED
VIOLENCE DOESN'T ONLY AFFECT
504
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:17,759
THE VICTIM. THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF
THAT FLOWS THROUGH TO THEIR FAMILIES,
505
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,716
IT FLOWS THROUGH THE
SOCIETY, AND THE COMMUNITY
506
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,115
THAT THE VICTIM COMES FROM.
507
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:27,996
SOUTH AFRICAN PATRIARCHY
IS FUNDAMENTALLY CONNECTED
508
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,355
TO SOUTH AFRICAN
POLITICAL ECONOMY.
509
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,355
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THIS IS THAT
THE WAY THAT OUR ECONOMY WAS BUILT,
510
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:38,595
ON THE BACKS OF CHEAP BLACK
LABOUR TOILING IN THE MINES,
511
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:44,236
AND PRODUCING ENORMOUS WEALTH
FOR A WHITE CAPITALIST CLASS.
512
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,196
IF YOU THINK ABOUT
THAT, IT'S A STORY
513
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,396
THAT FUNDAMENTALLY TREATS
THE HUMAN BODY AS SOMETHING
514
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,716
THAT IS A MEANS TO AN
END, THAT IS DISPENSABLE,
515
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,115
THAT IS SOMETHING WITHOUT
INTRINSIC INTEGRITY AND WORTH.
516
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:02,676
AND I THINK IT'S THAT ATTITUDE
THAT GETS TRANSPLANTED
517
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,835
INTO THE SOUTH AFRICAN PSYCHE, IN THE
SENSE THAT WE THINK OF WOMEN'S BODIES
518
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:10,436
AS THESE TOOLS FOR
INDIVIDUAL SATISFACTION,
519
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,876
INDIVIDUAL GAIN, SOMETHING TO
BE EXPLOITED AND DISPENSED WITH.
520
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,755
A LOT OF IT IS UNSETTLING, A
LOT OF IT REQUIRES HOLDING UP
521
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:20,436
A MIRROR TO OURSELVES,
AND THINKING DEEPLY
522
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,795
ABOUT THE SOCIETY
THAT WE LIVE IN.
523
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,315
AND THE WAYS IN WHICH, IN SOME
WAY, ALL OF US ARE COMPLICIT.
524
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,476
WE SET UP A PLAN TO TRAP HIM.
525
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,795
WE DECIDED WE WOULD TRY AND
CATFISH HIM VIA FACEBOOK.
526
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,835
SO WE CAME UP WITH A
WILD PLAN OF SETTING UP
527
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,956
ONE OF OUR FEMALE
DETECTIVES, AND SHE WAS IN.
528
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,075
SHE GAVE US PHOTOGRAPHS
OF HERSELF MODELLING,
529
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,876
AND WE MADE CONTACT WITH
THABO, OR WITH KELLY.
530
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,359
TOOK THE HOOK FOR A WHILE.
531
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,396
AND THEN WE'D SET UP A PLAN TO
MEET HIM IN THE UMHLANGA AREA.
532
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,956
WE HAD A WHOLE PLAN IN PLACE,
533
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,160
UNDERCOVER DETECTIVES,
POLICE OFFICERS.
534
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,636
IT WAS A THING OF
MOVIES, IT REALLY WAS.
535
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,595
UNFORTUNATELY, HE GOT
SPOOKED, AND HE WENT COLD.
536
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:18,035
IT'S ALWAYS CRITICAL TO GET
INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC,
537
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,956
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT
WITHOUT DIVULGING INFORMATION
538
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,996
SURROUNDING THE
CASE. FOR ANY CASE.
539
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,640
WE DID A WANTED POSTER WITH HIS MOST
RECENT CLEAR PHOTOS THAT WE'D HAD.
540
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,115
ONE OF THE THINGS HE HAD WAS,
HE HAD THREE LITTLE LINES CUT
541
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,555
INTO HIS EYEBROW.
THAT BECAME A MARKER,
542
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,759
BECAUSE WE NOTICED THAT HE'D HAD
THAT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WAY ALONG.
543
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,555
THE WANTED INFORMATION WAS CRITICAL,
BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WOULD SAY,
544
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,755
"I DON'T KNOW WHO KELLY YOUNG IS,
BUT I KNOW WHO THABO BESTER IS."
545
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:47,515
OR, "I KNOW WHO
RUFUS MAHOPO IS."
546
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,115
AND THE CALLS STARTED COMING
IN, WITH ALL HIS ALIASES.
547
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,595
QUITE A LOT OF CALLS CAME
IN FROM BED AND BREAKFASTS
548
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:02,515
THAT HAD BEEN SCAMMED. HE JUST
STOLE, HE JUST TOOK A TV AND LEFT.
549
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,355
AND THEN WE WERE TRYING
TO LINK THOSE CASES.
550
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,716
YOU PRODUCE WHAT YOU
CALL A SUPER DOCKET.
551
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,635
SO SOCIAL MEDIA'S
A VALUABLE TOOL
552
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,316
WHEN IT COMES TO
INVESTIGATING CRIMES.
553
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,276
WE STILL USE IT TO THIS DAY.
554
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,235
SO THE FACT THAT IT WAS USED TO
GREAT SUCCESS WAY BACK IN 2011
555
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,715
IS TO US A TESTAMENT OF HOW
IMPORTANT SOCIAL MEDIA IS.
556
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,436
IN FACT, SOCIAL MEDIA, AT TIMES,
557
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,396
IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT
THAN MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
558
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,195
BECAUSE IT REACHES
A LOT OF PEOPLE
559
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,796
WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE
INTERESTED IN WATCHING THE NEWS,
560
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000
LISTENING TO THE NEWS,
OR READING A NEWSPAPER.
561
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,276
I THINK THERE'S A MEME THAT'S
DONE THE ROUND OVER THE YEARS
562
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,035
OF WHAT THERE WAS
PRIOR TO SOCIAL MEDIA,
563
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:45,356
AND IT SHOWS A PICTURE OF A GROUP OF
OLD LADIES ON DIFFERENT BALCONIES,
564
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,276
CHATTING TO ONE ANOTHER, AND
WATCHING THE ROAD BELOW THEM,
565
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,715
AND REPORTING TO ONE
ANOTHER WHAT'S GOING ON.
566
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,360
AND THAT'S WHAT THESE COMMUNITY-BASED
GROUPS ON SOCIAL MEDIA HAVE DONE.
567
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,796
THEY'VE BEEN THE EYES AND
THE EARS ON THE GROUND,
568
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,956
AND THEY'VE HELPED TREMENDOUSLY IN
BRINGING PERPETRATORS TO JUSTICE,
569
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,000
BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WARNING PEOPLE
OF THE DANGERS THAT ARE LURKING.
570
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,035
I REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE CALL
CON ARTISTS "CON ARTISTS"
571
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,155
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE
"CON" STANDS FOR "CONFIDENCE"
572
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,555
AND "CONVINCING". WHEN YOU'RE
DEALING WITH A CON ARTIST,
573
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:22,555
THAT PERSON KNOWS EXACTLY
WHAT TO SAY, WHAT TO DO,
574
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,075
TO KEEP THE SCAM IN MOTION.
AND THEN, OF COURSE,
575
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:30,796
THERE'S THE ADDED COMPLICATION THAT
WHEN YOU ARE IN THAT SITUATION,
576
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,155
APART FROM EMBARRASSED, APART
FROM BEING VICTIM SHAMED,
577
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,515
YOU HAVE A SENSE THAT PERHAPS THE
AUTHORITIES DON'T HAVE CAPACITY
578
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,476
OR RESOURCES TO
INVESTIGATE THAT CRIME.
579
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,675
I DIDN'T MEET THE VICTIM,
MY VICTIM SUPPORT TEAM DID.
580
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,436
OBVIOUSLY THEY'D SPENT SOME
TIME WITH HER CONSOLING HER,
581
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,239
OBVIOUSLY HELPING HER
THROUGH THE RAPE KIT.
582
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,876
HE SORT OF CUTS THE CORD
TO A BLACKBERRY PHONE,
583
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,195
TIES HER UP, AND IN THAT
PROCESS, IT'S SPUR OF THE MOMENT,
584
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:11,235
ACCORDING TO HIM, HE THEN ENDS UP
RAPING HER AND TAKING WHAT HE CAN,
585
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,079
AND LEAVING THE PREMISES.
586
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,876
THE ABILITY TO APPEAR, DISAPPEAR
AND REAPPEAR SO QUICKLY
587
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,356
IS ASTOUNDING. HE WAS ON THE MOVE.
MADE A POST ON FACEBOOK THAT,
588
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,155
"THIS IS NOT ME, THIS IS A DIFFERENT
PERSON DOING THIS. I'M NOT THE ONE.
589
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:26,515
WILL YOU STOP BOTHERING ME?"
590
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,675
OBVIOUSLY HE WAS TRYING
TO CONVINCE EVERYBODY
591
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:31,996
THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH IT. HE ENJOYED THE CHASE.
592
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,356
I THINK HE GOT OFF ON
THAT, VERY MUCH SO.
593
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,960
AND THEN MADE THE
FAMOUS COMMENT...
594
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,276
I THINK THE HEAT WAS ON TOO
MUCH FOR HIM, ALL 'ROUND.
595
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,635
HE WAS STARTING TO FEEL
PRESSURE, HE REALLY WAS.
596
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,555
IT WAS THEN HANDED OVER TO THE HAWKS,
TO THE SERIOUS VIOLENT CRIMES UNIT.
597
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,715
NOMFUNDO'S STORY
DEFINITELY LEAVES A HOLE
598
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,916
IN THE BIG THABO BESTER STORY.
599
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,235
BECAUSE A LOT OF HIS
VICTIMS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
600
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,195
TO GATHER AN EXTENSIVE
BACKGROUND ON WHO THEY ARE
601
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:12,916
AND THEIR RELATION TO BESTER.
602
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,595
AND WE HAVE TRIED TO FIND OUT
A BIT MORE ABOUT NOMFUNDO,
603
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,316
BUT IT'S BEEN QUITE HARD.
604
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,476
WE'VE GONE TO PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY,
605
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,115
WHO SAID THAT THEY KNEW HER,
BUT A LOT OF THOSE LED NOWHERE.
606
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:29,476
THERE'S STILL THIS INCREDIBLY
SAD STORY SURROUNDING NOMFUNDO.
607
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,756
THABO BESTER'S BIGGEST VICTIM
WE KNOW THE LEAST ABOUT,
608
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,756
AND TO ME THAT IS AN INJUSTICE.
609
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,595
ON THE 6TH OF OCTOBER, 2011,
610
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,956
POLICE IN ALBERTON
ARRESTED THABO BESTER.
611
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,035
HE WAS CORNERED BY THE
POLICE ON A FREEWAY, I THINK.
612
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:58,996
TOLL ROAD, OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
613
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,476
LOCAL POLICE, WHERE
HE WAS, CAPTURED HIM
614
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,436
AS JUST A GENERAL CRIMINAL.
ALMOST LIKE HE MADE A BLUNDER.
615
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,635
ONE TOO MANY BLUNDERS.
616
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:10,316
IT'S KIND OF IRONIC THAT
THERE WAS SO MUCH ENERGY
617
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,115
BEING INVESTED INTO THIS,
618
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:16,715
AND THEN HE GETS
ARRESTED BY CHANCE.
619
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,235
BUT YOU OFTEN FIND THAT HAPPENS, YOU
KNOW, WHEN A CRIMINAL GETS CAUGHT
620
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,515
BY, ALMOST, STEPPING
ON THEIR OWN TOES.
621
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,515
I THINK ANYBODY
THAT'S INVOLVED
622
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:30,155
IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SPACE,
BE IT PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR,
623
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,476
IS HAPPY WHEN SOMEBODY'S
BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.
624
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,195
AND I THINK, NOT ONLY AS
SOMEBODY WHO WAS VERY ENGAGED
625
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:40,559
WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, AND AM STILL
VERY ENGAGED WITH SOCIAL MEDIA...
626
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,555
IT WAS A RELIEF TO SEE THAT THERE WAS
SOME WAY TO TRACK DOWN PERPETRATORS
627
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:47,316
OF HEINOUS CRIMES.
628
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,195
SO IT IS SADLY
ALMOST NOT SURPRISING
629
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:54,796
THAT WHEN THABO BESTER WAS
ARRESTED, HE WAS FOUND IN POSSESSION
630
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,155
OF ALL THESE
UN-RICA'D SIM CARDS,
631
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,316
DRIVER'S LICENSES, ID DOCUMENTS.
632
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,115
WHAT IT DOES SHOW, IS THAT THE ONLY
WAY SUCH A PERSON COULD HAVE ACCESS
633
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:09,796
TO A BANK ACCOUNT IS IF THEY HELD
IT UNDER A FRAUDULENT IDENTITY,
634
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,195
OR IF THEY USED THE BANK
ACCOUNT OF ANOTHER PERSON.
635
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,436
SO I INTERVIEWED HIM IN THE
SERIOUS AND VIOLENT CRIME UNIT,
636
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,276
AND IT WAS JUST A
DETECTIVE'S OFFICE.
637
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,235
THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
638
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,996
WHAT THE OFFENDER WAS
THINKING, WHAT'S THEIR MOTIVE.
639
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,356
WHAT MIGHT BE THEIR
TYPE OF PERSONALITY.
640
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,115
BUT YOU DON'T SORT OF.. GO ALL
PSYCHIC, IF I CAN PUT IT THAT WAY.
641
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:35,476
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REALLY
WORKING WITH THE BEHAVIOUR
642
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,476
THE PERSON'S LEFT BEHIND. ON
A MURDER SCENE, OF COURSE,
643
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,276
THE BODY AND THE GENERAL CRIME
SCENE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT
644
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,035
THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YOU KNOW,
AUGMENTED BY THE AUTOPSY REPORT,
645
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,956
AND ANY OTHER FINDINGS
AROUND THE TIME.
646
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,996
IT WAS VERY CLEAR, THOUGH, THAT
HE WAS TRYING TO PRESENT THINGS
647
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,555
IN A WAY THAT HE WANTS SYMPATHY.
648
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:56,195
SO, WITH THE FIRST RAPE THAT WE ARE
AWARE OFF, HE CLAIMS IN A NUTSHELL
649
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:59,956
THAT STARTED OF AS AN ATTEMPT
TO STEAL STUFF FROM THIS LADY.
650
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,836
HE THEN TOOK HER DOWN TO DURBAN
AND HE SAYS THAT IT WAS ONLY IN
651
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,396
THE SORT OF MOMENT AS HE SAW HER TIED
UP, AND HER DRESS SORT OF LIFTED UP
652
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,235
THAT HE COULD SEE HER
UNDERWEAR, THAT HE THEN THOUGHT
653
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,119
ABOUT ACTUALLY RAPING HER.
654
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:19,360
AS A MAN, HE FELT ENTITLED
TO HAVE SEX WITH HER...
655
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,075
"BECAUSE I CAN." AND THAT'S THE
PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY,
656
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:32,079
WHERE.. SOME MEN SEE
WOMEN AS SEXUAL OBJECTS.
657
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,519
A MEANS TO AN END.
SHE CAN FULFIL A NEED.
658
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,876
SO WE JUST GOT THE NEWS THAT
NOMFUNDO'S FAMILY'S DECIDED
659
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,235
- NOT TO SPEAK TO US.
- MM-HM.
660
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,235
HAVE YOU FOUND IN YOUR
WORK ON GBV REPORTING
661
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,400
THAT SOMETIMES FAMILIES
DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT?
662
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,000
THAT IS ACTUALLY THE
HARDEST PART OF THIS JOB.
663
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,595
AS JOURNALISTS, AS
FILMMAKERS, AS STORYTELLERS,
664
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:07,316
WE WANT TO GET AS CLOSE
TO THE STORY AS POSSIBLE.
665
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:13,235
BUT I'VE LEARNED IN MY CAREER, WHEN
YOU DO GET THE FAMILY TO SAY YES,
666
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,115
IT TAKES INCREDIBLE STRENGTH
AND BRAVERY FROM THEIR SIDE.
667
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:22,396
BECAUSE ONCE THEY TAKE THAT HOT
SEAT, YOU ARE TAKING THEM RIGHT BACK
668
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,595
TO THAT MOMENT OF TRAUMA,
669
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:28,635
AND THEY ARE RELIVING EVERYTHING
AS IF IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
670
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:32,075
SO I AM BY NO MEANS SURPRISED
671
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:35,000
THAT THE FAMILY DECLINED
TO BE INTERVIEWED.
672
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,836
BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES
THERE'S NEVER CLOSURE.
673
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,876
THE WAY SHE DIED IS
UNACCEPTABLY BRUTAL.
674
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,075
WHAT HE TOOK FROM THEM, I DON'T THINK
THEY CAN EVEN PUT IT INTO WORDS.
675
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,316
SO, YES, IT IS INCREDIBLY HARD.
676
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,476
IT WOULD'VE BEEN WONDERFUL
TO GET TO KNOW NOMFUNDO
677
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,320
THROUGH THE EYES OF HER FAMILY.
678
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,316
I LOOK AT THAT
SMILING PHOTO OF HERS,
679
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,079
AND FOR SOME REASON I WONDER
WHAT HER LAUGHTER SOUNDED LIKE.
680
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,916
I REALLY WISH WE COULD'VE
HAD HER FAMILY ON CAMERA,
681
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,595
BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHAT I WANT,
THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHAT WE WANT,
682
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,035
IT'S NOT EVEN WHAT YOU
AS THE VIEWER WANT.
683
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:24,519
IT'S ABOUT, REALLY, RESPECTING THE
FAMILIES' DECISION NOT TO PARTAKE.
684
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,639
WHAT WE ARE LEFT WITH
IS THABO BESTER'S STORY.
685
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,756
HE MET NOMFUNDO IN JANUARY 2011,
686
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,476
AT A BMW DEALERSHIP IN SANDTON,
687
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,595
WHERE SHE WORKED
AS A SALESPERSON.
688
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,756
HE TOLD HER HE WAS WORKING FOR
A TELEVISION PRODUCTION COMPANY,
689
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,876
AND THAT SHE LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE
WHO WOULD LOOK GOOD ON TV.
690
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,195
HE STARTS TO, ACCORDING TO HIM,
691
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:55,796
REALISE THAT HE REALLY
LIKES THIS LADY,
692
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,956
AND THAT SHE'S GOT A LOT OF SKILLS,
AND HAS, SORT OF, A LOT OF POTENTIAL,
693
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,155
AND HE CAN USE HER. AND I THINK
HE MEANS THAT IN VARIOUS WAYS.
694
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:06,719
HE THEN SORT OF CONVINCES HER THAT
THEY SHOULD TRAVEL DOWN TO CAPE TOWN.
695
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:10,756
ALSO PROMISING HER
SOMETHING ABOUT
696
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:16,115
A PHOTOSHOOT OPPORTUNITY. AND
THEY CHECKED INTO A LUXURY HOTEL,
697
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:17,956
WHERE THEY STAYED
FOR TWO NIGHTS.
698
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,836
HE AGAIN DOES THIS FALSE
BOOKING WITH A FALSE EFT...
699
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,595
AND WHEN THEY LEFT, THEY
THEN CHECKED INTO A VILLA
700
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,075
IN SUNSET BEACH.
701
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:28,595
THEY'RE SHARING THE SAME ROOM.
702
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:32,396
AND AT ONE POINT, SHE ALLEGEDLY
HAD SEEN MESSAGES ON HIS PHONE,
703
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,996
WHICH SHE'D READ, AND REALISED THAT
HE'S ESSENTIALLY IN A RELATIONSHIP.
704
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,396
AND, ACCORDING TO HIM, SHE CONFRONTS
HIM ABOUT THIS, AND HE'S UPSET.
705
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,035
AND THE ARGUMENT
BECAME QUITE HEATED,
706
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:44,356
BUT IT EVENTUALLY ENDED
WITH THEM SETTLING THINGS,
707
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,796
AND THEN GOING TO BED.
708
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,916
HE WAKES UP A
03:00, REALISING,
709
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,476
"WELL THIS SORT OF GAME IS UP."
710
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,075
SO HE GOES AND GETS A KNIFE FROM
THE GUESTHOUSE, COMES BACK...
711
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,756
NOMFUNDO WOKE UP,
712
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,316
ONLY TO FIND THABO BESTER
STANDING IN FRONT OF HER.
713
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,515
HE DESCRIBES IT THAT THERE
WAS SORT OF A TUSSLE,
714
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,635
AND SHE MUST'VE BEEN
STABBED IN THAT PROCESS,
715
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,476
BUT HE WASN'T TRYING TO STAB HER,
AND HE WASN'T TRYING TO KILL HER.
716
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,515
WHILE SHE WAS BUSY
BLEEDING TO DEATH,
717
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,719
HE ASKED HER FOR THE
PASSWORD TO HER LAPTOP.
718
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,555
AND AT AROUND 07:00,
BESTER LEFT THE VILLA...
719
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,715
AND SORT OF TELLS THE GUEST HOUSE
SHE'S SLEEPING LATE, AND HE'S OFF...
720
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,235
AND THAT SHE SHOULDN'T BE
BOTHERED UNTIL ABOUT 14:00.
721
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,436
AND HE LEAVES.
722
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,595
SO LATER THAT EVENING,
THE OWNERS OF THAT VILLA
723
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:35,436
BECAME SOMEWHAT CONCERNED, GIVEN
THAT THEY HADN'T HEARD FROM NOMFUNDO,
724
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,675
AND WHEN THEY WENT TO THE ROOM,
725
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:41,679
THAT'S WHEN THEY UNCOVERED
HER LIFELESS AND BLOODY BODY.
726
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:49,796
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER RAPES
IS THAT THEY WERE PART OF A SCAM.
727
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,235
BUT WHEN IT COMES
TO NOMFUNDO'S STORY,
728
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,396
THERE'S THE ALLEGED RELATIONSHIP
729
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,195
BETWEEN HIM AND NOMFUNDO.
730
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,559
WHY ARE WE LED TO
BELIEVE THAT VERSION?
731
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,276
SO EVEN IN THABO BESTER'S
OWN VERSION OF EVENTS,
732
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,195
WHICH HE TOLD ME, THERE'S NO
EFFORTS TO SAVE THIS PERSON.
733
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:11,195
HE DESCRIBES IT THAT
THERE WAS SORT OF A TUSSEL
734
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:14,235
AND SHE MUST'VE BEEN STABBED IN
THAT PROCESS BUT HE WASN'T TRYING
735
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,316
TO STABB HER OR HE WASN'T
TRYING TO KILL HER.
736
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,276
BUT HE CAN'T REMEMBER, YOU KNOW,
HOW MANY TIMES SHE WAS STABBED.
737
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,916
AND YOU KNOW, HE SAYS SHE WAS
SCRATCHED AND THEN SHE'S ON THE BED
738
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,595
AND SHE STOPS MOVING, HE'S
NOT SURE IF SHE'S ALIVE
739
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,796
SO HE KIND OF SHAKES
HER AND THEN LEAVES.
740
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,876
UM, SO VERY MUCH PORTRAYED
AS I CAN CONFESS...
741
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,715
AND I THINK HE WAS
LITERALY, AS IF HE WAS
742
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,476
NOW ADMIT TO BEING SORT OF
THE ONE HOLDING THE KNIFE
743
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,155
THAT CAUSED HER DEATH, BUT I
CAN'T ADMIT TO MURDERING HER.
744
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,756
BECAUSE I DIDN'T SORT OF
INTENTIONALLY STABB HER.
745
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,996
NOWHERE IN THAT STORY, EVEN
HIS OWN VERSION OF EVENTS,
746
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,079
IS THERE ANY IOTA OF
CARE FOR THAT VICTIM.
747
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:53,276
THABO BESTER WILL TRY
AND TELL YOU SOMETHING
748
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,635
THAT'S GOING TO WIN YOUR
SYMPATHY, MAKE HIM LOOK BETTER.
749
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:58,476
YOU CANNOT ACCEPT ANYTHING.
750
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,595
IF HE TELLS YOU THE SUN IS
SHINING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY,
751
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:02,396
YOU BETTER GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK.
752
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,715
THERE'S ONE THING THAT
I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT
753
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,276
IS PROBABLY... SOMETHING
THAT'S GENUINE IN WHAT HE SAID.
754
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,356
AND I'll PARAPHRASE IT,
755
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,115
BUT HE REALLY SORT OF SAID IT
ALMOST LIKE OUT OF THE BLUE.
756
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,436
AND HE SAID HE ALWAYS
WONDERED WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE
757
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,800
TO BE THE PERSON WITH THE KNIFE,
TO BE IN COMPLETE CONTROL.
758
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:25,396
THAT IS VERY MUCH THE KIND
OF STUFF WE OFTEN DO HEAR
759
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,396
FROM SERIAL MURDERERS
AND SERIAL RAPISTS.
760
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,756
IT'S ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL,
AND SOMETIMES, IN A WAY,
761
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,920
REPEATING THINGS THAT
HAVE HAPPENED TO YOU.
762
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,916
THAT, IN A WAY, IT'S LIKE YOU
CANCEL IT OUT, IF YOU'RE THE DOER,
763
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,756
AS OPPOSED TO THE PERSON
IT WAS BEING DONE TO.
764
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,675
SO I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY
ONE OF THE FEW LITTLE GLIMMERS
765
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:46,555
WHERE HIS REAL KIND OF THOUGHTS
AND FEELINGS CAME THROUGH,
766
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:47,836
AND FOR THE REST OF THE
INTERVIEW, HE WASN'T TRYING
767
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,396
TO PRESENT HIMSELF
AS AN OFFENDER.
768
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,595
IT WAS ACCIDENTAL, HE
HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.
769
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:54,760
THE KNIFE ACCIDENTALLY
HURT THE MURDER VICTIM.
770
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,035
WE SAY SERIAL OFFENDERS
DON'T USUALLY JUST STOP
771
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,595
THE TYPICAL PATTERNS
THEY WILL CONTINUE.
772
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,195
WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT
ONLY ONE IN 20 RAPE CASES
773
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:05,515
ARE REPORTED TO THE POLICE.
774
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,155
SO IF YOU DO CATCH SOMEONE
WHO'S RAPED 20 PEOPLE,
775
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,876
YOU KNOW, YOU TIMES THAT BY 20,
IS PROBABLY THE ACTUAL NUMBER.
776
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,235
TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TWO RAPES
AND THE MURDER ARE HIS ONLY VIOLENT,
777
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,316
OR SEXUALLY VIOLENT
OFFENCES IS VERY NAIVE.
778
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,280
I KNOW THERE'RE A LOT MORE.
779
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,840
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT MORE
THAT SPOKE TO THE POLICE...
780
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:26,876
THAT ARE TERRIFIED.
781
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,316
SOMETIMES YOU JUST BURY
AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS,
782
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,595
AND YOU WANT TO THINK,
"IT WAS TRAUMATIC FOR ME,
783
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,996
I WANNA FORGET ABOUT IT."
BUT IT STILL HAUNTS YOU.
784
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,956
IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO
ACCEPT, ACKNOWLEDGE, AND DEAL WITH.
785
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,760
IT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT EVER GOES AWAY.
786
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,756
HIS PRESENCE, OR THE VERY THOUGHT
OF HIM, STILL INSTILS FEAR IN ME.
787
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,595
AND THAT WAS WHEN I DECIDED THAT
I THINK MY LIFE IS MORE PRECIOUS,
788
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:04,000
AND MY FAMILY, AND I DECIDED
TO LEAVE THE INDUSTRY.
789
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,436
EMOTIONALLY, HE DID TORTURE US.
790
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,356
IT MIGHT BE A SMALL, LITTLE THING,
BUT EMOTIONALLY WE REALLY FELT IT.
791
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,595
BUT AS FOR MATHABA...
792
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,396
I NEVER LIKED HIM FOR
WHAT HE DID TO ME.
793
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,956
AND HE NEVER COME BACK AS A FRIEND
TO SAY, "BROTHER, I'M SORRY,
794
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,675
LET'S CONTINUE, LET'S
FIGHT THABO TOGETHER."
795
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:25,956
IS THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU
GUYS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IT?
796
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,239
YES, YES, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE
SPEAK ABOUT IT, TO SHARE A SPACE.
797
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,675
IT BROUGHT US BACK TOGETHER
HERE, TO THE SAME SEAT.
798
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:47,956
HE SAT IN COURT,
WITH A SMUG FACE,
799
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,075
SAME SMUG LOOK HE'S GOT ON HIS FACE
NOW. EXACTLY THE SAME SMUG FACE.
800
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:56,635
THERE'S NOTHING HE COULD EVER SAY
THAT WOULD MAKE ME FORGIVE HIM.
801
00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:59,996
BUT IF HE HAD SHOWN
JUST A INCH OF REMORSE,
802
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,396
MAYBE THE HATRED
WOULDN'T BE AS BAD.
803
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,635
BUT HE'S NEVER,
EVER SHOWN REMORSE.
804
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:09,595
NOT THEN, AND NOT NOW.
805
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,836
THE SENTENCE WAS 60 YEARS,
806
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,639
FOR MY DAUGHTER'S
RAPE AND ASSAULT.
807
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:31,796
HE GOT HIS APPEAL. IT GOT CUT DOWN
TO... FROM 60 YEARS TO 30 YEARS.
808
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,555
THE MURDER RAN CONCURRENTLY
WITH THE RAPES.
809
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,679
WHICH IS ALSO
ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH.
810
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,316
'CAUSE HE'S NOT
SITTING TIME FOR IT.
811
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,075
HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE
MURDER BECAUSE IT'S ALL CONCURRENT.
812
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,675
A LIFE SENTENCE IS 25
YEARS. SO IT WAS 25 YEARS,
813
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:51,880
AND THEN YOU'D BE
ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE.
814
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,599
AND THEN HE'S OUT
THERE DOING IT AGAIN.
815
00:49:57,679 --> 00:49:59,555
THE LIFE SENTENCE IS
TILL THE DAY YOU DIE,
816
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:03,515
THE QUESTION IS, WILL YOU BE SERVING
SOME OF IT OUTSIDE WITH RESTRICTIONS,
817
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:07,155
OR IN PRISON? NOW THE POINT WHERE
YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE RELEASED,
818
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,436
USUALLY, ON A LIFE SENTENCE
FOR THE FIRST TIME,
819
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,916
WOULD BE AT A 25-YEAR
POINT INTO YOUR SENTENCE.
820
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,876
YOU'D HAVE YOUR FIRST PAROLE HEARING,
DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GONNA GET PAROLE,
821
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,235
BUT YOU'LL HAVE
YOUR FIRST HEARING.
822
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,356
AND THEN PROBABLY EVERY
TWO YEARS THEREAFTER,
823
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,715
YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING, AND
ANOTHER HEARING, AND ANOTHER HEARING.
824
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,356
SO WHEN HE GOT THAT
LIFE SENTENCE IN 2012,
825
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,796
HIS FIRST POINT AT WHICH HE
WOULD'VE COME UP FOR PAROLE
826
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,276
WOULD'VE BEEN 25 YEARS
FROM THAT, FAST FORWARD,
827
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,195
WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN 2037.
828
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:33,039
WELL HE DIDN'T
WAIT THE FULL TIME.
829
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,679
SO HOW REMORSEFUL IS THAT,
IF YOU PLAN AN ESCAPE?
830
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,276
THAT'S NOT REMORSE.
I'VE WANTED TO TALK UP,
831
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,996
AND I WANTED PEOPLE TO
SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF HIM.
832
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,796
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY HIS
VOICE EVERYBODY'S HEARING.
833
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,436
SO I WANTED THEM TO
SEE WHAT HE'S DONE,
834
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,916
THE LIVES HE AFFECTED.
NOMFUNDO'S PARENTS,
835
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,316
I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO
IMAGINE HOW THEY FEEL.
836
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,440
I, AT LEAST, GET
TO SEE MY DAUGHTER.
837
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:11,079
AND PUT MY ARMS AROUND
HER AND LOVE HER.
838
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,480
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE
TO COME FORWARD.
839
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:40,876
I FOUND A POST FROM 2012,
WHEN HE WAS PUT IN JAIL,
840
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,436
AND RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM,
THERE'S A COMMENT FROM YOU.
841
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,276
JA, I WAS VERY WORRIED
ABOUT NANDIPHA,
842
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,316
THAT THERE'S THIS PERSON
THAT'S WORRYING MY FAMILY,
843
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,996
AND I THINK I KNOW WHO HE IS.
CAN JUST SOMEONE HEAR ME OUT?
844
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,195
AND NO ONE HEARD ME OUT.
845
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,760
I MEAN, THAT WAS STILL WHEN HE
WAS IN JAIL BEFORE THE ESCAPE.
846
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,436
AND I WAS USING
DIFFERENT AVENUES.
847
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,555
AND NOBODY WAS LISTENING?
848
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:08,440
AND NOBODY LISTENED,
NO ONE LISTENED.
849
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,276
IT WASN'T THE STORY
OF THE DAY. YOU KNOW?
850
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,075
ESCAPED FACEBOOK RAPIST
AND MURDERER, THABO BESTER,
851
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:24,756
IS STILL ON THE RUN.
852
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,316
Brace yourself, the
whereabouts of Dr Nandipha...
853
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,155
...Magudumana was a no-show
at her clinic in Sandton.
854
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:32,876
The pair has vanished.
855
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,996
Police are now working with
private security companies
856
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,396
to try and apprehend him.
857
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,155
Agencies like Fidelity, ADT,
have offered R100,000 reward
858
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:44,079
for information
leading to his arrest.
859
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,876
But what has become
very clear here,
860
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,796
is that the investigation
will have to go much deeper,
861
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,876
much higher, and sideways.
862
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,715
We do not have a
correctional service,
863
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,595
that the justice
system is in tatters.
864
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:59,396
Somebody like Thabo Bester,
we can almost assure you
865
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,075
that he has done something in
the time that he has escaped.
866
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:04,595
And he has hurt more women.
867
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,515
I do not feel safe.
So at what point
868
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,075
do we start holding
government accountable?
869
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:12,195
- We found Bester.
- When did you find him?
870
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:14,320
We found him, we sent
to prison for life.
871
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:17,515
- No, but now he's escaped.
- We'll find Bester...
872
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:19,675
We'll find Bester, prison,
873
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,276
for life, and 75 years.
874
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,396
Ja, where's he now?
875
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,155
Bester was.. Jumped out
of correctional service,
876
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:30,756
and we are chasing Bester
for the second time.
877
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,515
We found Bester.
878
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:35,996
- When did you find him?
- We'll find him,
879
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,595
we'll send to prison for life.
880
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:39,276
Prison for life...
881
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,075
...and we are chasing
Bester for the second time.
882
00:53:56,599 --> 00:53:59,115
BUT WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF NANDIPHA?
883
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:02,480
DO YOU THINK THAT SHE'S
AN ACCOMPLICE OR A VICTIM?
884
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,440
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS
BEING DONE TO HER...
885
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,039
THAT WE DON'T KNOW?
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