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NARRATOR: Terrifying encounters
at 40,000 feet.
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So I kind of looked
over my left shoulder,
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and there’s this
bright light in our face.
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It’s a pulsating orb.
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Look at that, dude.
Look at that.
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NARRATOR:
Pilot accounts of UFOs
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taking control
of their aircraft.
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BILL BIRNES:
Goes to move the yoke,
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and the yoke is
moving on itself.
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If it climbs any further,
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it will stall out.
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NARRATOR:
And entire jumbo jets
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disappearing into thin air.
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How do you have a commercial
airliner just vanish?
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NARRATOR:
Since the dawn of aviation,
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pilots have experienced
unexplainable events in the sky.
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Is it possible that
what they have witnessed
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are aliens in our airspace?
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GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: When
you have thousands of pilots
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coming forward with encounters
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that they’ve witnessed
up in the sky,
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with so-called UFOs,
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I think we should
pay more attention
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to what these pilots
have been saying.
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NARRATOR:
There is a doorway
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in the universe.
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Beyond it is
the promise of truth.
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It demands
we question everything
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we have ever been taught.
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The evidence is all around us.
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The future is
right before our eyes.
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We are not alone.
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We have never been alone.
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In 2017, The New York
Times broke the story
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of the U.S. government’s
secret investigations
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into unexplained
aerial phenomena.
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And in the years that followed,
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a number of
sensational UFO videos
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have been released,
or leaked, to the public.
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NARRATOR:
Nearly all of the footage
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was recorded by cameras
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mounted on U.S. Navy
fighter jets.
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The videos captured the public’s
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imagination like
no other UFO images
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that had come before them...
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But Navy pilots are not alone
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in witnessing unidentified
flying objects.
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For decades, shocking encounters
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have been reported
by non-military,
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civilian pilots.
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UAP sightings by
commercial airline pilots
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are a lot more commonplace
than what we generally think of.
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We’ve seen a lot of
the footage from the military,
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but we’re actually
getting a lot more reports
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from our civilian pilots.
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There are more civilian
pilots than military pilots.
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And you have
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an exponentially
larger amount of flights
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with commercial airlines
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than you do with
military airplanes.
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NARRATOR:
Japan Airlines Flight 1628
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is carrying cargo
from Paris, France
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to Narita International
Airport near Tokyo.
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The three-person crew
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is led by Captain
Kenju Terauchi,
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an ex-fighter pilot with over
10,000 hours of flight time.
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As the 747 approaches Anchorage,
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Captain Terauchi
notices two strange lights
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out of his cockpit window.
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It’s dark. It’s, uh, very
early morning. Before sunrise.
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These lights are
clearly maneuvering.
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They are, in relationship
to each other,
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one is on top of the other,
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and they move directly
in front of his aircraft.
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Now, he’s flying at
about 500 miles per hour.
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These things are pacing him.
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NARRATOR:
Captain Terauchi
realizes the lights
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are strange oval-shaped
flying objects,
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and they are getting dangerously
close to his aircraft.
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As bright lights
fill the cockpit,
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Captain Terauchi radios
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the Anchorage Air
Traffic Control Center
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and asks if they can identify
the objects near his plane.
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NARRATOR: As Terauchi attempts
a series of evasive maneuvers
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to avoid a potential collision,
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the two UFOs suddenly disappear.
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In their place
is another object.
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One so large, it dwarfs the 747.
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RICHARD DOLAN:
His words for describing it
were, "gigantic spaceship
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the size of maybe
two aircraft carriers."
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Just immense.
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Tarauchi sees this
massive thing in the sky,
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and he’s scared.
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NARRATOR:
Concerned by Captain
Terauchi’s report,
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the air traffic controller
calls NORAD,
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the North American
Aerospace Defense Command,
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based at Elmendorf
Air Force Base in Anchorage.
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Communication specialists
at the airbase
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confirm that there is a very
large unidentified object
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on their radar screens.
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Traffic control told them
that they could actually
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take whatever evasive
actions they needed to,
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to avoid collision,
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and they even dropped
down to 4,000 feet
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above sea level,
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and the thing continued
to follow them.
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RYAN SPRAGUE:
Air traffic control
diverted another
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commercial flight to
come look at this UFO.
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And by the time they got there,
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the UFO was completely gone.
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TSOUKALOS:
One of the reasons
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why the J.A.L. report is
such a big deal is because
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the corroborating
evidence is overwhelming.
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Not only were there
eyewitness reports,
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but there’s the records of
the communication systems
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that Terauchi was in touch with,
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actual dialogue that happened.
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"Hey, we are up here.
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We see this. Are you guys
seeing this on your radar?"
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All this stuff is recorded.
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NARRATOR:
Once safely grounded,
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Captain Terauchi, his copilot
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and flight engineer
were immediately interviewed
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by Alaska Federal Aviation
Administration officials
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and other special agents.
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NICK POPE:
There’s an FAA
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investigation into this.
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There’s lots of documentation.
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There’s no real, hard
and fast conclusion about this.
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And so, the pilot,
perhaps out of frustration,
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talks to the media.
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NARRATOR:
In December 1986,
one month after the encounter,
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Captain Terauchi
contacted Kyodo News
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and said he believed
the mysterious crafts
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were of extraterrestrial origin.
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The unauthorized statements
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prompted Japan
Airlines officials
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to remove Captain Terauchi
from pilot duty,
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and assign him to a desk job.
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Around the same time,
John Callahan,
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the FAA’s division chief
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of the Accidents
and Investigations branch.
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learned of the incident
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and deemed it
worthy of investigation.
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DOLAN:
John Callahan
went to D.C. about this,
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and there was a meeting
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that was chaired by
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one of the top
people of the FAA.
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This meeting was also attended
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by representatives of the FBI,
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representatives of the CIA
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and representatives of
President Reagan’s White House.
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They had audiotapes
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that were played,
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between the pilot
and air traffic control,
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describing everything
that was happening,
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and written reports.
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And at the end of the meeting,
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one of the CIA, uh, agents
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stood up and said,
"This meeting never happened,
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"and we’re confiscating
all of the data
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that has been, uh, shared here."
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Now, Callahan,
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he was a little sly,
but he was within his rights.
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"They never asked me,"
he said, "if I had a copy
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of any of this myself," he said.
"Which I did."
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He had a copy of the audio
recordings, if nothing else.
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And a little over
a decade later,
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shared that with the public.
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MICAH HANKS:
John Callahan came away
with the feeling
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that there was
essentially a kind of coverup.
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The FAA didn’t want the fact
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that this incident
had occurred to get out.
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POPE:
I’ve spoken to pilots
who have seen
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amazing things out there,
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but never report it
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because of the fear
of being disbelieved,
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being ridiculed, and
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perhaps, being grounded.
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You won’t be flying anymore.
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So, what do they say?
Most times, nothing.
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TSOUKALOS:
You have countless commercial
and private airline pilots
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who spend an exorbitant
amount of time up in the sky.
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And, in my opinion,
I think they’re the best people
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to discern what is natural
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and what is not.
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NARRATOR:
As far as ancient
astronaut theorists
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are concerned,
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UFO encounters
reported by civilian pilots
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provide some of the
most compelling evidence
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that there is an
extraterrestrial presence
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in the skies above Earth.
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And, according to some pilots,
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what they’ve witnessed presents
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a serious danger.
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NARRATOR:
For ancient astronaut theorists,
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UFO sightings reported by pilots
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are particularly intriguing,
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because while accounts of
strange phenomena in the sky
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date back millennia,
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it is only in the past century
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that humans have had
an aerial vantage point.
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DAVID CHILDRESS:
For thousands of years,
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we could only observe
things in the sky
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from the ground,
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but in the last hundred
or so years,
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we’ve had the ability to fly.
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And so now we’re up
in the sky ourselves.
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We can discern natural
phenomena from powered craft.
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NARRATOR:
Thousands of pilots
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have reported observing
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phenomena in the sky that do
not resemble any weather anomaly
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or man-made aircraft
they’ve ever encountered.
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Such was the case
with Captain Erik Delgado,
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who served as an Air Force
pilot for ten years
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before being hired
to fly for FedEx in 2001.
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On the evening
of March 20, 2020,
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Captain Delgado
departed from Mexico City
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in a Boeing 767
bound for Memphis, Tennessee.
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One hour into the flight,
Delgado noticed something
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strange in the distance.
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DELGADO:
Usually when we get
to altitude, we’ll relax.
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I was conversing
with my first officer,
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and as I’m looking at him,
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his eyes got really big
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and, uh, his mouth
kind of dropped.
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And I’m like, what
the hell is this guy looking at?
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And he goes, "Look at
the shooting star,"
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and he stops, never-never
finished the word, "Star."
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And so I kind of looked
over my left shoulder,
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and if you can, uh, imagine
a lighthouse in thin fog,
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kind of just
a-a spotlight, sort of,
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that just kind of came
over us, and I thought,
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"Oh, my God,
it’s another airplane,
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"and he’s got
a vector toward us.
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What’s this clown doing?"
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I grabbed the throttles,
gripping it with a death grip.
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I was getting ready to
disconnect the autopilot.
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And I’m looking at the screen,
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realizing there’s
nothing on the screen.
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NARRATOR: Delgado immediately
used his digital camera
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to record the astonishing sight.
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NARRATOR:
Within minutes of the sighting,
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the orb moved towards the plane
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at a high rate of speed,
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then suddenly stopped short.
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DELGADO:
My heart was racing still.
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Speed doesn’t kill, you know?
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Deceleration, stopping,
that’s what kills you.
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And the fact that this
thing stopped like that,
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if there were
somebody inside there,
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you know, um,
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our conventional laws
of physics and stopping,
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they wouldn’t have
survived the g-forces,
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to come to a stop like that.
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NARRATOR:
The UAP flew alongside
Delgado’s aircraft
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at an astonishing
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500 miles per hour,
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and yet there was no sign
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of a propulsion system.
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DELGADO:
This thing was
parked on our wingtip,
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about a thousand, 2,000 feet,
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and it didn’t move.
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With your naked eye, it was just
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bright, dim, bright, dim.
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And it was very cyclic.
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It didn’t waver,
it was the same.
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And you look through the camera,
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and now you could
see features in a shape.
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NARRATOR: The object
continued to track
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Delgado’s aircraft
for nearly 30 miles.
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DELGADO: This thing
started rotating,
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and started changing colors
and it started taking off.
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And so, I’m zooming in
as fast as I could.
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DELGADO:
This thing took off with
pretty good velocity.
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NARRATOR:
After making a safe landing,
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Delgado shared his videos with
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air operations center personnel,
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even though his
copilot was reluctant
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to file an official report.
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DELGADO:
There was still a stigma,
behind the whole thing.
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You know, are they
gonna ground us?
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Are they gonna ask
for our medical, you know?
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Are we gonna
have to go see somebody?
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So, I could understand
where he was coming from.
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HANKS:
In recent years,
we’ve seen military pilots
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being encouraged to come forward
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and talk about
things they’ve seen.
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The same has not necessarily
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always extended
to commercial pilots
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because there isn’t an interest
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in collecting information
from those pilots
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the same as there would be
with military pilots,
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where in the interest
of national security,
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if you see something,
say something.
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But traditionally,
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when commercial pilots
contacted the FAA,
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they have been told,
"Hey, you need to talk
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to civilian UFO researchers,"
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or they don’t actually
have a clear idea
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of where else they can
even log those reports.
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So it’s a very
different situation.
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NARRATOR:
Captain Delgado decided
not to give the video
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to the FAA, and instead,
turned it over to
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the National Aviation Reporting
Center on Anomalous Phenomena,
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or NARCAP,
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a civilian organization
made up of volunteers
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who investigate
unidentified aerial sightings.
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They concluded that
the glowing object
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was consistent with that
of an exotic craft
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with a plasma exterior that
could disrupt radar signals.
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I think I saw some
intelligent anomaly.
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It’s amazing, I-I’d like to know
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more of the science
and the physics
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behind what I was
looking at, maybe.
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But, you know,
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see the footage and-and
form your own opinions.
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TSOUKALOS:
Things need to change,
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because pilots should
be at the forefront
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of being free enough
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to come forward
to report what they saw.
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NARRATOR:
The FAA has never conducted
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an official investigation
into pilot Delgado’s incident.
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But would they take
notice if a UFO sighting
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affected an entire airport?
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A ramp employee for
United Airlines Flight 446
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spots a metallic
saucer-shaped object
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hovering over gate C-17,
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between 1,000 and 1,900
feet in the air.
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Within minutes,
federal authorities
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receive nearly a dozen
panicked phone calls
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from airport personnel.
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SPRAGUE:
Here you have pilots,
here you have
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people working at the airport,
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and civilians going to
get on their flights,
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all witness a UFO hovering
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directly over one of
the gates at the airport.
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This UFO was
cylindrical in shape.
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It was metallic.
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NARRATOR:
Witnesses estimated the object
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to be between 16
and 24 feet in diameter.
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POPE: Suddenly, this thing
just accelerates vertically,
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and punches a hole
through the cloud.
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Everyone’s staggered by this.
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Now, there is
a meteorological phenomenon
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called a "hole punch cloud."
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But that doesn’t really
fit with the idea
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that there was
this metallic craft
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hovering before this happened.
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STEVEN GREENSTREET:
A hole punch cloud
is a real phenomena,
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but the weather
conditions needed
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to produce a hole punch cloud
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weren’t there that day.
(chuckles)
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They weren’t there that day.
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And so that explanation
doesn’t make any sense at all.
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WILLIAM HENRY:
The Chicago Tribune,
they end up filing
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a Freedom of
Information Act request
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with the FAA, and, lo and
behold, they get a recording.
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So we have a United
Airlines supervisor
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on the phone with the FAA
controller using the word "UFO."
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So, once again,
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we have a scenario
where the FAA,
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and we have United
Airlines personnel,
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in this case, saying
there’s nothing to see here,
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but, in fact, there was.
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NARRATOR: Is it possible
the U.S. government
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has been concealing evidence
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about UAP sightings
near our airports?
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According to UFO researchers,
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it would fit
a disturbing pattern
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of ignoring what many
believe are serious threats
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to the millions of people
who travel the skies every day.
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Threats that are
surprisingly well-documented
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and sometimes even
caught on tape.
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NARRATOR: For decades, civilian
pilots have been frustrated
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by the Federal
Aviation Administration’s
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refusal to
investigate encounters
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between commercial airlines
and unidentified flying objects.
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Skeptics argue that these
encounters lack hard data
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like telemetry, radar
and audio recordings
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00:19:18,032 --> 00:19:20,582
that would warrant
an investigation.
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00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:24,912
But there have, in fact,
been numerous incidents
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00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,749
where viable evidence
has been collected,
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including an event
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involving two aircraft
travelling over
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the state of Arizona.
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In 2018, flying over Arizona,
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you’ve got a Learjet, you’ve
got an American Airlines jet,
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and something
zips over the Learjet,
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00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:45,353
right over top.
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And they immediately call ATC.
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GREENSTREET:
Radar tower says,
"We don’t see anything.
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We don’t know
what the heck it is."
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00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,566
And so, the radar tower
calls the American Airlines jet
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00:20:00,658 --> 00:20:02,948
behind that plane, and says
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00:20:03,077 --> 00:20:04,287
"Hey, look out for a second.
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Object should
be coming your way."
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NARRATOR: The pilot of
the American Airlines jet
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initially responds
requesting clarification.
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NARRATOR:
Then, just moments later,
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the American Airlines
pilot radios back
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to air traffic control.
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00:21:13,564 --> 00:21:15,324
This incident is significant
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00:21:15,399 --> 00:21:16,939
because there
are audio recordings
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00:21:17,026 --> 00:21:18,486
of the whole incident,
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00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:21,779
and the pilots actually
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00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:23,824
use the word, "UFO,"
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00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:25,278
when they’re talking
to the control tower.
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NARRATOR:
According to researchers,
the Arizona encounter
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was never openly
investigated by the government,
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00:21:34,376 --> 00:21:38,126
despite the evidence
presented in the recordings
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00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:41,224
between the two pilots
and air traffic control.
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00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:43,642
Neither was another incident,
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00:21:43,719 --> 00:21:47,139
this one so serious,
it required a call
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00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:50,063
to the U.S. Air Force.
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00:21:51,644 --> 00:21:53,194
The Oregon coast.
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October 25, 2017.
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A radar operator
spots a fast-moving
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unidentified object in
a busy commercial flight path.
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DELGADO:
There were no pilots involved
in that initial reporting.
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It was just a tower
controller and a...
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and a radar center operator,
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and they’re going
back and forth.
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NARRATOR: The radar operator
contacts air traffic control
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in Seattle, Washington.
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GREENSTREET:
The object has no call sign.
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It has no transponder.
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00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:42,527
It’s not communicating.
What is this object?
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Pilots in the air start
picking it up visually.
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00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:48,079
Multiple pilots from
multiple airlines
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00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,790
flying both north
and south up the coast.
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00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:54,502
And they see this
huge white object
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moving extremely fast
at 37,000 feet.
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CHILDRESS:
The pilots could
see a white light
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that was coming at them
and moving around,
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00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:10,395
and they reported it
to the control tower
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00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,522
and the pilot said that
it was moving erratically.
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GREENSTREET:
This object was a little bit
too close for comfort.
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00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:26,454
And so they tried
to communicate with it.
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00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:29,952
All the things that this
object should have given off
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if it was an authorized
aircraft, a U.S. aircraft,
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a commercial aircraft,
weren’t there.
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00:23:36,624 --> 00:23:38,754
It was just silent.
444
00:23:38,834 --> 00:23:43,304
And so the military
scrambled two F-15 fighters
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00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:45,970
to go intercept this thing.
446
00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:50,305
POPE:
Now, you don’t do that lightly.
This is a big call.
447
00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:51,639
This is the sort of thing
448
00:23:51,722 --> 00:23:54,182
that you do on
a 9/11 type event.
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00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:56,438
So, what happened?
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Why did they take
this one so seriously
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that a fighter interceptor
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was sent up to try
and take a look?
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00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,573
NARRATOR:
The F-15s race
to intercept the UFO,
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but this proves more
difficult than expected.
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CHILDRESS:
Once the jets were on their way,
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this UFO suddenly shot off
in a different direction,
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00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:20,209
and was very fast,
and was able to make
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00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:23,844
these quick turns,
and at very high speeds.
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GREENSTREET: At one point,
this object changes direction.
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It’s flying southbound,
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00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:33,050
and then turns
and goes northbound.
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00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:35,140
So, the F-15 fighters,
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00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:37,644
they go there
and at the last minute,
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as best anyone can guess,
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turns and zips out
over the Pacific Ocean.
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NARRATOR:
Observers are shocked
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that F-15s, among
the nation’s fastest
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and most sophisticated
fighter jets, are unable
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00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:54,031
to catch up with
the mysterious object.
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GREENSTREET:
What’s great about this
is the audiotapes,
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which were released via
the Freedom of Information Act.
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When you hear
the process happen,
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from initial sighting
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to the scrambling
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00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:23,936
of military jets,
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00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:26,324
it’s fascinating
to hear that happen.
477
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,860
"What should we do?"
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It goes to the Air Force,
it goes to NORAD.
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It’s there and seen by
so many, and then it’s gone.
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NARRATOR:
These two incidents
are considered
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to be among a multitude
of reports where analyzable
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data, including radar,
radio transmissions,
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00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:49,343
telemetry and
eyewitness accounts,
484
00:25:49,423 --> 00:25:51,093
offer compelling evidence
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00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,555
of unidentified
aerial phenomena.
486
00:25:53,635 --> 00:25:56,095
Yet, to the public’s knowledge,
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00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:58,140
these dangerous encounters
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00:25:58,265 --> 00:26:01,265
have never been
investigated by the government.
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00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:04,939
UFO experts believe
the flying public
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00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:06,772
is at significant risk,
491
00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:10,439
and as evidence,
point to a mysterious case
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00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:13,527
where a pilot experienced
his worst nightmare
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10,000 feet in the air.
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NARRATOR:
Zihuatanejo, Mexico.
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May 3, 1975.
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After dropping off passengers
at this seaport town
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on the Pacific Coast,
pilot Carlos de los Santos
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00:26:35,469 --> 00:26:38,559
embarks on a return trip
to Mexico City
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00:26:38,639 --> 00:26:41,849
in his Piper PA-24 Comanche.
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The weather
conditions are clear,
501
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and visibility is good,
as De los Santos
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00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:49,606
cruises at 10,000 feet.
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One hour into the flight,
504
00:26:52,194 --> 00:26:54,364
he witnesses something unusual.
505
00:26:55,906 --> 00:27:00,536
A gray, wingless object off
the left side of his plane.
506
00:27:01,495 --> 00:27:03,545
DOLAN:
As he approaches Mexico City,
507
00:27:03,664 --> 00:27:06,924
he notices, basically,
a small flying saucer
508
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,080
just above his left wing.
509
00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,958
It’s not as large
as his aircraft,
510
00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:12,705
and he’s flying
a fairly small aircraft.
511
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,590
And he’s like, "What is this?"
512
00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:17,475
And then he looks over to his
right and he sees another one.
513
00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:20,104
And then he looks ahead of them,
514
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,270
and there’s one coming at him.
515
00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:23,769
It goes below his aircraft,
516
00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:27,191
and he feels a bump
under his aircraft.
517
00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:30,858
And he’s scared out of his mind.
518
00:27:30,983 --> 00:27:32,403
Anyone would be.
519
00:27:34,194 --> 00:27:36,914
But he then realizes
that he’s not really
520
00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:38,780
in control of his aircraft.
521
00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:42,157
His aircraft is moving in a way
522
00:27:42,244 --> 00:27:44,834
that seems to respond to
these objects, not to him.
523
00:27:47,416 --> 00:27:48,576
He goes to move the yoke,
524
00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:50,879
and the yoke
is moving on itself.
525
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,133
The plane starts climbing
526
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:54,803
to 3,000 meters.
527
00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:57,552
That’s the ceiling of the Piper.
528
00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:01,176
If it climbs any further,
it will stall out.
529
00:28:01,263 --> 00:28:02,933
He will lose control.
530
00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,806
The plane will
fall out of the sky.
531
00:28:06,393 --> 00:28:07,643
DOLAN:
He’s actually becoming afraid
532
00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:09,728
because his cabin’s
not pressurized.
533
00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:12,521
You get to a certain altitude,
534
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,858
he’s gonna have
a hard time breathing.
535
00:28:14,902 --> 00:28:17,402
BIRNES:
The theory is that the UFO
536
00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,357
that came under the plane,
537
00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:22,738
took control of his plane,
538
00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:25,828
and the UFO’s own
magnetic envelope
539
00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:29,833
is lifting the plane higher
and higher and higher.
540
00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:34,547
De los Santos is in a panic.
He’s giving Mayday calls.
541
00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:57,071
DOLAN:
He’s telling them,
"There are these
542
00:28:57,152 --> 00:28:59,452
"unidentified objects
at my wingtips,
543
00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:02,409
and below me, and
I don’t know what to do."
544
00:29:02,491 --> 00:29:07,621
NARRATOR:
As the private plane races
towards a mountainous area,
545
00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:10,746
the three UAPs disengage
from Carlos’s plane
546
00:29:10,832 --> 00:29:13,842
and veer off toward
the Mount Popocatépetl volcano
547
00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:16,341
at lightning speed.
548
00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:19,513
As the objects
disappear from sight,
549
00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:22,433
Carlos regains control
of the plane.
550
00:29:22,511 --> 00:29:26,011
But he quickly realizes
his ordeal isn’t over.
551
00:29:27,015 --> 00:29:29,385
DOLAN:
He can’t initiate
his landing gear
552
00:29:29,476 --> 00:29:31,516
because of the impact
that one of these objects
553
00:29:31,645 --> 00:29:33,485
made on his aircraft.
554
00:29:34,481 --> 00:29:36,231
He has to circle around
555
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,566
the airport about ten times.
556
00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:40,652
And he uses a screwdriver
557
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:43,279
to push the lever
to get his, uh,
558
00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:44,745
landing gear to come down,
559
00:29:44,825 --> 00:29:47,045
and he successfully
lands his aircraft.
560
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000
It’s kind of
an amazing thing there.
561
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:50,869
So, he lands his aircraft.
562
00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:54,214
And the story doesn’t end here.
563
00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:55,964
Now he would’ve
had his whole career,
564
00:29:56,044 --> 00:29:57,924
reputation ruined,
probably, with this,
565
00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:01,265
except for the fact that
566
00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:03,891
Mexican air traffic control
tracked these objects also,
567
00:30:04,011 --> 00:30:06,641
and this came
out to support him.
568
00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:09,972
This story became a huge
news story in Mexico.
569
00:30:10,058 --> 00:30:12,598
Didn’t really make much
impact in the United States,
570
00:30:12,686 --> 00:30:15,096
but it was a very big
story in Mexico.
571
00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:17,689
NARRATOR:
Years later, De los Santos
572
00:30:17,774 --> 00:30:20,444
revealed that in the
aftermath of the event,
573
00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:23,527
he was twice approached
by mysterious figures
574
00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:26,615
warning him not to speak
about his experience.
575
00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,621
The first occasion
was just before
576
00:30:30,704 --> 00:30:32,124
he was scheduled
to be interviewed
577
00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:34,915
by a Mexican television station.
578
00:30:35,042 --> 00:30:39,052
The second happened when
De los Santos was set to meet
579
00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:43,679
with the famous UFO
investigator, J. Allen Hynek.
580
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,009
Hynek was into the case.
581
00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:46,933
A lot of people
were following this case.
582
00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:50,184
And just before he was going to
meet with Hynek at some hotel,
583
00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:52,385
he gets another
encounter from, um,
584
00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:53,937
one of these men in black,
585
00:30:54,061 --> 00:30:56,351
these tall, pasty,
white-skinned guys
586
00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:59,268
who warned him,
don’t talk about this.
587
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:00,939
He was threatened.
588
00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:03,278
And he did actually
stop talking about this
589
00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:04,863
for a little while after that.
590
00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:07,656
But as time went by,
he-he’s talked about it.
591
00:31:07,741 --> 00:31:10,831
It’s just one of
the most incredible
592
00:31:10,911 --> 00:31:13,451
aviation UAP stories
that you’re ever gonna hear,
593
00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,370
and he got out of it alive.
594
00:31:16,416 --> 00:31:18,126
NARRATOR:
Pilot Carlos de los Santos
595
00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:20,461
ultimately emerged
from his harrowing
596
00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,087
midair encounter unscathed,
597
00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:26,135
but similar confrontations
598
00:31:26,259 --> 00:31:27,719
between civilian planes and UFOs
599
00:31:27,803 --> 00:31:30,183
have led to tragic consequences,
600
00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:33,733
including injuries, crashes
601
00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:36,599
and even loss of life.
602
00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:43,147
NARRATOR: The National
UFO Reporting Center,
603
00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:45,446
or NUFORC, has counted
604
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:47,659
at least 100 cases in the U.S.
605
00:31:47,781 --> 00:31:50,331
where flight safety was impaired
606
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,290
because of close calls with
unidentified aerial phenomena.
607
00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:56,543
And in at least one incident,
608
00:31:56,623 --> 00:31:59,293
it appears a collision
with a UFO
609
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:02,126
caused fatal results.
610
00:32:10,053 --> 00:32:14,223
Former NYPD pilot and flight
instructor Thomas Preziose
611
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:17,347
departs from
Mobile Downtown Airport,
612
00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,477
piloting a single-engine Cessna
613
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:24,145
with the call sign
"Night Ship 282."
614
00:32:25,235 --> 00:32:29,825
The story of Night Ship 282
is quite alarming.
615
00:32:29,906 --> 00:32:32,656
A Hollywood script writer
couldn’t come up with this one.
616
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:38,329
We have a NYPD pilot,
a freight hauler,
617
00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:40,497
very experienced
flight instructor...
618
00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:44,672
...hauling documents
from Mobile, Alabama
619
00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:46,546
up north to Montgomery.
620
00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:48,423
Routine flight.
621
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,139
NARRATOR:
Due to poor visibility,
622
00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:53,849
Preziose was flying
by his instruments.
623
00:32:55,015 --> 00:32:56,525
Just one minute into the flight,
624
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,440
he spotted something
in the distance,
625
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,979
and immediately
radioed air traffic control.
626
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:06,899
MIKE RICKSECKER:
He saw what looked like
another plane in the sky,
627
00:33:07,027 --> 00:33:08,357
was just confirming that
628
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,737
that was another plane up there.
629
00:33:10,864 --> 00:33:12,574
And then all of a sudden,
he’s alarmed.
630
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:14,699
He’s panicked.
Something is coming at him.
631
00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:19,411
BIRNES:
This pilot sees
an object in front of him
632
00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:23,039
on a collision course
with his plane.
633
00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:25,545
What does he do?
634
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:29,550
He radios a request
for permission to deviate.
635
00:33:29,633 --> 00:33:31,883
"I must deviate,
I must deviate,"
636
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,930
he says over the radio.
637
00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:35,474
He deviates.
638
00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:38,394
Silence.
639
00:33:38,475 --> 00:33:41,105
The transmission goes dead.
640
00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:45,194
NARRATOR:
Five minutes after takeoff,
641
00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:49,743
Night Ship 282 crashes
into Big Bateau Bay.
642
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:54,661
Tragically, Thomas Preziose
is killed on impact.
643
00:33:55,659 --> 00:33:57,409
When investigators
644
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,906
from The National
Transportation Safety Board,
645
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:03,168
or NTSB, arrive at the scene,
646
00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:05,670
they discover
parts of the Cessna
647
00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:09,262
scattered over an area
of nearly 200 yards.
648
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,089
The plane is not
just demolished,
649
00:34:13,176 --> 00:34:16,596
it’s almost vaporized.
650
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,270
Something obviously
hit the plane.
651
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:22,099
The props are damaged,
the wings are damaged,
652
00:34:22,185 --> 00:34:25,095
the fuselage is damaged.
653
00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:29,108
Wholesale damage inside
the mechanics of the airplane.
654
00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:33,205
HENRY:
It becomes apparent
he has collided
655
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,620
with something in midair.
656
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,039
NARRATOR:
A midair collision
of such extreme force
657
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,960
would naturally send two
wrecks spiraling to the ground.
658
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,630
But an extensive search
of the area
659
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,051
produced only one aircraft.
660
00:34:50,547 --> 00:34:52,627
DOLAN:
No other wreckage
was ever found.
661
00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:55,177
No other craft which would’ve
662
00:34:55,302 --> 00:34:57,642
presumably done this.
663
00:34:57,721 --> 00:35:00,471
The most bizarre thing about
this is that there are these
664
00:35:00,557 --> 00:35:02,347
strange red markings
665
00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:04,725
all over parts of the aircraft.
666
00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:07,685
These red markings have not
667
00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,824
been identified,
as far as I can tell.
668
00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:13,861
And they’re in a variety
of places of the aircraft.
669
00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:16,197
The NTSB suggested
that whatever it hit
670
00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:19,533
was this color red or had
this red coating on it,
671
00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:22,829
and when it hit, it rubbed
off on this guy’s craft.
672
00:35:22,912 --> 00:35:27,002
They also found pieces
of metal in the wings
673
00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:29,543
that didn’t belong to the plane.
674
00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:33,839
Various pieces of metal were
imbedded in the crashed plane
675
00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:36,683
that weren’t part of that plane.
676
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,350
So, something metal,
something red.
677
00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:41,889
But at the end of
the day, a mystery.
678
00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:45,349
GARY HESELTINE:
Clearly, this is one
of the rare occasions
679
00:35:45,435 --> 00:35:48,065
where there was a collision
that obliterated a plane,
680
00:35:48,188 --> 00:35:51,188
killed the pilot, and the FAA,
681
00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:54,736
the aviation authorities and
the investigations that followed
682
00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:56,861
could not explain it,
683
00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,026
and to this day,
cannot explain it.
684
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,370
CHILDRESS:
You have to wonder
if this incident,
685
00:36:02,452 --> 00:36:04,542
which caused the death
of the pilot,
686
00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:08,673
wasn’t also some
extraterrestrial incident
687
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:12,340
where, perhaps, a flying
saucer or other craft
688
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:13,710
hit this plane,
689
00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:15,877
or the plane itself
hit the craft.
690
00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:18,217
NARRATOR:
For UFO researchers,
691
00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:21,051
the tragic case
of Thomas Preziose
692
00:36:21,137 --> 00:36:22,887
raises the question:
693
00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:26,272
Is it possible that there
have been other fatal collisions
694
00:36:26,393 --> 00:36:29,853
with UFOs that have
gone unreported?
695
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,782
Or happened before the pilot
could radio air traffic control?
696
00:36:34,901 --> 00:36:39,241
As far as ancient astronaut
theorists are concerned,
697
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:41,912
it is a question
worth investigating
698
00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:45,203
given the number
of highly unusual encounters
699
00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:48,156
pilots have started
sharing with the public.
700
00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:50,248
And while the FAA
701
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,673
continues to
dismiss such reports,
702
00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:55,092
another government agency,
703
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,673
one focused on outer space,
704
00:36:57,757 --> 00:37:01,757
is taking notice of possible
extraterrestrial activity
705
00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:04,105
on Earth.
706
00:37:08,852 --> 00:37:10,392
NARRATOR: In recent years,
more and more pilots
707
00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:11,598
are coming forward
708
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:14,820
to say that unidentified
aerial phenomena
709
00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:18,191
pose a serious risk
to the flying public.
710
00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:21,318
The Federal Aviation
Administration, however,
711
00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:24,948
continues to
downplay the danger.
712
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:26,794
DOLAN:
The FAA is
713
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:28,620
all about flight safety,
714
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,247
and yet, they don’t accept UFO
or UAP reports from civilians.
715
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:34,092
The FAA is essentially
telling you, civilian,
716
00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:35,629
"I don’t care
what you’ve encountered,
717
00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:37,802
"and we don’t have to
keep statistics on it,
718
00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:39,471
"and we, therefore,
719
00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:42,801
"don’t have to do anything about
this impossible phenomenon,
720
00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:44,506
which we don’t know
what we could do."
721
00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:47,717
The FAA does not want
civilians reporting UFOs
722
00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:51,477
because they don’t want
the public stirring the pot.
723
00:37:51,561 --> 00:37:54,361
This is something
that could, in theory,
724
00:37:54,481 --> 00:37:57,481
become actionable through
FOIA requests, for example.
725
00:37:57,567 --> 00:37:59,487
You can have a civilian
saying, "I’d like to know
726
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:02,489
how many civilians are
reporting UFOs to the FAA."
727
00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:03,784
And then what do they do?
728
00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:06,165
How many thousands of reports
729
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,704
are they going to be releasing?
730
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,327
They don’t want to
get into that at all.
731
00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:12,002
HENRY:
I think it goes to this idea,
732
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:13,503
not of air traffic safety,
733
00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:15,883
but not wanting
to alarm the public.
734
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,711
NARRATOR:
But now that the U.S. government
735
00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:20,668
is paying serious attention
736
00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:24,007
to UAP encounters
reported by military pilots,
737
00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:26,973
at least one agency
is ready to listen
738
00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:29,225
to civilian pilots as well,
739
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:31,679
and to the surprise of many,
740
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:35,190
it is America’s
top space agency:
741
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,403
NASA.
742
00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:41,188
In October 2022,
743
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:43,487
NASA assembled a team
744
00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:46,031
of 16 scientists and experts
745
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:47,867
for a first-of-its-kind
investigation
746
00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:50,662
into unidentified
aerial phenomena.
747
00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:53,035
In order to collect new data,
748
00:38:53,122 --> 00:38:55,672
the space agency also announced
749
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:57,380
it is taking over management
750
00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:00,050
of the Aviation
Safety Reporting System,
751
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:01,801
or ASRS,
752
00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:05,221
a public service website
that encourages pilots
753
00:39:05,301 --> 00:39:07,551
to submit anonymous reports
754
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,009
regarding UAP sightings.
755
00:39:10,974 --> 00:39:13,144
NASA has something now called
756
00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:16,146
the Aviation
Safety Reporting System.
757
00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,899
And this is a mechanism
758
00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:21,822
whereby pilots can report
759
00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:25,611
UFO sightings anonymously,
if they choose.
760
00:39:25,738 --> 00:39:29,198
And it says on the website,
this is non-punitive.
761
00:39:29,284 --> 00:39:30,794
"We will not
come after you for this.
762
00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:33,660
There’s no comeback,
just make your report."
763
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:38,081
HENRY:
It suggests to me that there’s
something else out there.
764
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:39,589
NASA knows about it,
765
00:39:39,669 --> 00:39:41,419
and they want to
know more about it.
766
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:43,764
And so they are, sort of,
surreptitiously saying,
767
00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:47,432
"We’ll listen to your story now.
768
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:48,760
"We’re collecting a database now
769
00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:50,765
of what is happening
in our skies,"
770
00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:53,769
and so that is why I think NASA
771
00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:56,232
is ultimately taking
the lead on this.
772
00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:59,901
POPE:
People are saying, why NASA?
773
00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:02,611
Why not the FAA?
Does it perhaps tie in
774
00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:05,782
with the fact that NASA
is now studying UFOs?
775
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:10,162
Or is it maybe an indication,
an intriguing clue
776
00:40:10,283 --> 00:40:14,083
that a lot of the incidents
of most import
777
00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:17,962
happen in the real
upper atmosphere,
778
00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:20,461
where we are going into space.
I-I don’t know,
779
00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:22,463
but that’s... in a sense,
that’s not the point.
780
00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:26,627
The point is we now have
this receptive environment
781
00:40:26,716 --> 00:40:29,926
into which pilots can finally
782
00:40:30,011 --> 00:40:32,561
speak out about the UFOs
783
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:37,019
that they are seeing
on a very frequent basis.
784
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,439
NARRATOR:
As far as ancient astronaut
theorists are concerned,
785
00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:44,782
encouraging commercial
pilots to come forward
786
00:40:44,859 --> 00:40:48,279
with their stories may
finally provide critical proof
787
00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:50,783
that civilian aircraft
do, in fact,
788
00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:53,825
encounter UAPs in our skies.
789
00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:58,004
HANKS:
There’s a deep history
of UFO sightings.
790
00:40:58,081 --> 00:41:00,001
And the obvious
threat to aviation
791
00:41:00,083 --> 00:41:02,503
is becoming more
and more prevalent.
792
00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:06,797
We have to start
taking these reports
793
00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:08,511
incredibly seriously because
794
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:12,183
pilots, crews and passengers
could be at risk.
795
00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:15,178
DELGADO: I challenge anybody
to take anything you have
796
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:17,676
and put it out there.
Don’t hesitate,
797
00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:19,229
because maybe you’re
gonna open the door
798
00:41:19,352 --> 00:41:22,982
to-to bigger and better
things for mankind.
799
00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,735
NARRATOR: As more civilian
pilots come forward
800
00:41:26,859 --> 00:41:30,359
to report their encounters with
unidentified aerial phenomena,
801
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:33,526
will it be revealed
that such incidents
802
00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:36,908
occur far more often
than we would ever imagine?
803
00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,656
And if so, could bringing
804
00:41:39,747 --> 00:41:42,877
these incidents to light
also bring us one step closer
805
00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:45,791
to learning the truth about just
806
00:41:45,878 --> 00:41:47,208
who, or what,
807
00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:49,586
has been occupying our airspace
808
00:41:49,716 --> 00:41:51,546
for thousands of years?
809
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:55,391
Perhaps one day soon,
810
00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:57,561
the strange craft in our skies
811
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,890
will descend to Earth,
812
00:41:59,976 --> 00:42:03,396
and when they do,
we will know for certain
813
00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:05,689
that we are not alone.
814
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:08,073
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