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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,833 --> 00:00:05,083 NARRATOR: It is the world's most elite team of UFO hunters. 2 00:00:06,250 --> 00:00:10,333 NICK POPE: It's this huge network of investigators 3 00:00:10,458 --> 00:00:13,000 who are not just interested in UFOs, 4 00:00:13,167 --> 00:00:15,125 but want to do something about it. 5 00:00:15,208 --> 00:00:18,708 NARRATOR: For five decades, the Mutual UFO Network 6 00:00:18,875 --> 00:00:21,000 has gathered detailed evidence 7 00:00:21,167 --> 00:00:23,208 of unexplained aerial phenomena, 8 00:00:23,375 --> 00:00:27,375 strange encounters, and alleged alien abductions. 9 00:00:27,542 --> 00:00:29,417 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Out of all the cases that you've looked at, 10 00:00:29,542 --> 00:00:31,125 have you seen anything like this? 11 00:00:31,208 --> 00:00:33,125 Not like this, and I've done over a thousand. 12 00:00:35,917 --> 00:00:38,333 NARRATOR: And now, they're collaborating 13 00:00:38,417 --> 00:00:40,500 with the United States government. 14 00:00:40,667 --> 00:00:43,417 JESSICA TOCCO: MUFON has been very well received in Congress. 15 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:46,208 Whether they believe it's a UAP from another world 16 00:00:46,333 --> 00:00:48,792 or from one our adversaries, 17 00:00:48,917 --> 00:00:50,458 they want to know what's happening. 18 00:00:50,542 --> 00:00:54,167 NARRATOR: Could MUFON have within its vast files 19 00:00:54,292 --> 00:00:57,833 definitive proof of alien visitation? 20 00:00:57,917 --> 00:01:00,208 GIORGIO TSOUKALOS: Here we have an outfit that has decades worth 21 00:01:00,375 --> 00:01:03,583 of investigation, and some of their cases 22 00:01:03,708 --> 00:01:06,542 are, in my opinion, extraterrestrial encounters. 23 00:01:09,458 --> 00:01:11,333 NARRATOR: There is a doorway 24 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:14,125 in the universe. 25 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:18,208 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 26 00:01:18,375 --> 00:01:20,917 It demands we question everything 27 00:01:21,042 --> 00:01:23,667 we have ever been taught. 28 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,875 The evidence is all around us. 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,833 The future is right before our eyes. 30 00:01:30,917 --> 00:01:33,792 We are not alone. 31 00:01:33,917 --> 00:01:37,042 We have never been alone. 32 00:01:51,958 --> 00:01:54,667 NARRATOR: Thousands descend on the Mile High City 33 00:01:54,750 --> 00:01:58,500 to attend the 53rd International Symposium on UFOs. 34 00:01:58,583 --> 00:02:03,083 We had a similar case out of South Carolina last year. 35 00:02:03,208 --> 00:02:04,542 NARRATOR: At this annual conference, 36 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:06,708 researchers from around the world 37 00:02:06,833 --> 00:02:09,000 gather to share and examine 38 00:02:09,125 --> 00:02:11,958 the latest developments in the study of UFOs. 39 00:02:12,042 --> 00:02:16,042 One resident claimed to have compiled a list of 110 persons 40 00:02:16,167 --> 00:02:18,167 who had witnessed flying objects 41 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:20,792 out of the small town of only 2,000. 42 00:02:20,875 --> 00:02:23,167 NARRATOR: And it is hosted by an organization 43 00:02:23,292 --> 00:02:26,917 with the most highly trained UFO investigators in the world, 44 00:02:27,042 --> 00:02:30,083 MUFON. 45 00:02:30,208 --> 00:02:34,542 MUFON is the acronym for the Mutual UFO Network. 46 00:02:34,667 --> 00:02:37,958 It's the largest UFO investigation organization 47 00:02:38,083 --> 00:02:39,417 in the world, 48 00:02:39,542 --> 00:02:42,875 and its mission statement is the scientific study 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,125 of UFOs for the benefit of mankind. 50 00:02:47,208 --> 00:02:50,333 RON JAMES: MUFON is a all-volunteer organization 51 00:02:50,417 --> 00:02:53,250 that's grown to well over 4,000 members worldwide 52 00:02:53,375 --> 00:02:55,333 of field investigators and 53 00:02:55,458 --> 00:02:58,500 people that want to participate in the quest for the truth. 54 00:02:59,375 --> 00:03:02,458 At the core of MUFON is an investigative body 55 00:03:02,542 --> 00:03:05,500 that exists to go out and investigate sightings 56 00:03:05,625 --> 00:03:09,542 that are worthy of investigation and compile our database. 57 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:12,875 But over the years, MUFON has grown into so much more. 58 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,917 We offer kind of a community 59 00:03:15,042 --> 00:03:16,333 for people that care about the topic. 60 00:03:16,458 --> 00:03:20,083 POPE: MUFON is the coming together 61 00:03:20,208 --> 00:03:23,792 of people who are not just interested in UFOs, 62 00:03:23,917 --> 00:03:26,917 but want to do something about it. 63 00:03:27,042 --> 00:03:30,000 They want to investigate the cases. 64 00:03:30,083 --> 00:03:34,917 So, it's like this huge, uh, network 65 00:03:35,042 --> 00:03:38,875 of like-minded people all around the United States 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,833 and indeed the world 67 00:03:40,917 --> 00:03:44,958 brought together by their shared passion for the subject 68 00:03:45,083 --> 00:03:47,333 and their shared interest in it. 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,875 HURD: I became involved after having been present 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,083 for the Phoenix Lights incident 71 00:03:54,208 --> 00:03:56,917 here in Phoenix, Arizona in 1997. 72 00:03:57,042 --> 00:04:00,208 My interest was captured. 73 00:04:01,708 --> 00:04:05,333 I first joined up with MUFON after a trip to Roswell 74 00:04:05,458 --> 00:04:07,417 with the family in 2019, 75 00:04:07,542 --> 00:04:09,833 and it got me interested in it. 76 00:04:09,958 --> 00:04:12,375 I had heard of MUFON before, but I didn't think, 77 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,167 being a nurse, if I would be useful. 78 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:17,458 But I called the headquarters to see about 79 00:04:17,542 --> 00:04:20,417 just attending meetings, and 80 00:04:20,542 --> 00:04:24,375 I became an investigator, and I've loved it ever since. 81 00:04:25,625 --> 00:04:28,917 RODERICK MARTIN: I was 12 years old when I saw my first UFO. 82 00:04:29,042 --> 00:04:32,500 Uh, was outside, and then I lived in Dallas, Texas. 83 00:04:33,292 --> 00:04:36,292 I saw this little white disk, 84 00:04:36,417 --> 00:04:38,833 uh, kind of just zig-zagging. 85 00:04:38,958 --> 00:04:42,417 So, imagine that seared into you as a young kid. 86 00:04:42,542 --> 00:04:44,333 As the years roll by, 87 00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:46,833 I noticed that there was an organization called MUFON, 88 00:04:46,917 --> 00:04:49,000 Mutual UFO Network. 89 00:04:49,125 --> 00:04:50,708 Then I found their website. 90 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:53,875 Wait a minute, you can get behind the scenes. 91 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,417 You can become an investigator. 92 00:04:55,542 --> 00:04:57,292 And so I said, "You know what? 93 00:04:57,417 --> 00:04:59,208 This is what I'm going to do." 94 00:04:59,375 --> 00:05:02,333 NARRATOR: Having now existed as an organization 95 00:05:02,458 --> 00:05:04,542 for more than five decades, 96 00:05:04,667 --> 00:05:08,125 MUFON's mission is to objectively investigate 97 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:10,542 the hundreds of eyewitness accounts of UFOs 98 00:05:10,708 --> 00:05:12,792 and other aerial phenomena 99 00:05:12,917 --> 00:05:16,375 that are reported every year across the globe. 100 00:05:17,375 --> 00:05:19,667 RALPH BLUMENTHAL: MUFON started in the '60s 101 00:05:19,792 --> 00:05:23,042 as an association of private citizens 102 00:05:23,167 --> 00:05:27,333 who trained themselves to ask questions, to go to scenes 103 00:05:27,458 --> 00:05:29,833 where people had reported UFOs 104 00:05:29,958 --> 00:05:31,958 to question people. 105 00:05:32,083 --> 00:05:34,083 They developed a whole protocol. 106 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:36,583 They had a very sophisticated methodology 107 00:05:36,708 --> 00:05:39,833 that they used to document these things, 108 00:05:39,958 --> 00:05:41,667 and they kept records. 109 00:05:42,667 --> 00:05:45,000 NARRATOR: Started in Quincy, Illinois, 110 00:05:45,083 --> 00:05:49,458 MUFON originally stood for "The Midwest UFO Network"... 111 00:05:50,417 --> 00:05:52,667 ...but by 1973, 112 00:05:52,792 --> 00:05:56,417 the organization had so many members across the country, 113 00:05:56,542 --> 00:05:59,542 its name was changed to "The Mutual UFO Network." 114 00:05:59,708 --> 00:06:03,667 The group remained relatively obscure, however, 115 00:06:03,792 --> 00:06:05,167 until 1980, 116 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:07,167 when it played a key role 117 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:10,000 in a sensational UFO case called 118 00:06:10,083 --> 00:06:12,833 the Cash-Landrum Incident. 119 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:16,500 JAMES: Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum 120 00:06:16,625 --> 00:06:19,542 are driving through Texas when they encounter this giant 121 00:06:19,667 --> 00:06:21,458 diamond-shaped object... 122 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:26,583 ...hovering and spewing out blue flame from the bottom. 123 00:06:26,708 --> 00:06:29,083 They stopped the car to investigate. 124 00:06:29,208 --> 00:06:30,667 The local environment 125 00:06:30,792 --> 00:06:32,917 is actually being heated by this object 126 00:06:33,042 --> 00:06:35,167 to the point where they try to touch their car 127 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:36,583 and it's hot to the touch. 128 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:39,667 And then what happens is they notice 129 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:42,333 that there's an army of helicopters, 130 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:44,208 Chinook helicopters, 131 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:46,750 seeming to escort this object. 132 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:52,750 VICKIE LANDRUM: This is Vickie Landrum from Dayton, Texas. 133 00:07:09,625 --> 00:07:11,792 Now, what makes this unique is that, 134 00:07:11,875 --> 00:07:14,625 when they get home, after a couple of days, 135 00:07:14,708 --> 00:07:16,500 they start to show symptoms of being exposed 136 00:07:16,625 --> 00:07:18,417 to ionized radiation. 137 00:07:19,708 --> 00:07:23,167 DAVID CHILDRESS: The women all had their hair fall out, 138 00:07:23,292 --> 00:07:26,167 they develop cancer, and they blamed 139 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:27,917 the U.S. government for this. 140 00:07:28,042 --> 00:07:32,000 And this then became a very well-known court case, 141 00:07:32,125 --> 00:07:35,875 where they were suing the U.S. government, essentially. 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,208 This was reported in major newspapers 143 00:07:39,333 --> 00:07:40,667 all over the United States. 144 00:07:40,792 --> 00:07:43,542 They couldn't ignore this story. 145 00:07:43,667 --> 00:07:45,375 POPE: MUFON investigators 146 00:07:45,542 --> 00:07:49,625 got the witness statements, gathered the evidence, 147 00:07:49,708 --> 00:07:52,333 including things like medical records, 148 00:07:52,417 --> 00:07:54,792 which were central to the legal case. 149 00:07:54,917 --> 00:07:58,667 And, although, the witnesses didn't win their case, 150 00:07:58,750 --> 00:08:02,125 what's important was that that gets it on the record. 151 00:08:03,875 --> 00:08:05,500 Without MUFON, 152 00:08:05,625 --> 00:08:08,708 it's unlikely that it would have gone to court. 153 00:08:09,875 --> 00:08:12,375 JAMES: It helped MUFON come to the forefront. 154 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:15,083 It gave us credibility as a group. 155 00:08:15,208 --> 00:08:17,958 And it was a really establishing moment for MUFON. 156 00:08:23,708 --> 00:08:26,000 You can click on this, and you can click on your state 157 00:08:26,083 --> 00:08:28,583 and see if your case is coming up due soon. 158 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:30,917 NARRATOR: 40 UFO researchers 159 00:08:31,042 --> 00:08:33,333 have arrived in this small desert community 160 00:08:33,458 --> 00:08:36,667 for the annual MUFON Investigator Boot Camp. 161 00:08:36,792 --> 00:08:39,542 This intense, three-day conference 162 00:08:39,667 --> 00:08:41,750 offers hands on training 163 00:08:41,875 --> 00:08:44,542 in techniques used to investigate cases 164 00:08:44,708 --> 00:08:48,333 of reported extraterrestrial visitations. 165 00:08:48,458 --> 00:08:49,542 Stay with your group. 166 00:08:49,667 --> 00:08:51,917 We have five sites. 167 00:08:52,042 --> 00:08:53,500 You guys are gonna go to the sites, 168 00:08:53,625 --> 00:08:55,667 and you're going to find stuff, 169 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:59,458 tag it, bag it, and you're gonna submit it. 170 00:08:59,542 --> 00:09:03,333 MUFON strives to train up their field investigators 171 00:09:03,417 --> 00:09:06,875 to know photo and video analysis. 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,167 We're expected to know how to read astronomical charts. 173 00:09:11,292 --> 00:09:15,417 We're expected to know how to look at flight radar returns. 174 00:09:15,542 --> 00:09:17,792 And that's just the tip of the iceberg. 175 00:09:18,792 --> 00:09:21,667 POPE: One of the strengths of MUFON, 176 00:09:21,792 --> 00:09:23,792 is that it brings together people 177 00:09:23,917 --> 00:09:25,875 with different skill sets. 178 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,958 So, for example, some of them will be, uh, retired cops. 179 00:09:30,042 --> 00:09:34,625 Also, people who specialize in imagery analysis. 180 00:09:34,750 --> 00:09:38,333 There are other people who know all about computers. 181 00:09:38,417 --> 00:09:40,875 So, all the different things 182 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,542 that an organization investigating UFOs might need, 183 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:46,292 someone's gonna have that skill set. 184 00:09:46,375 --> 00:09:51,083 TSOUKALOS: MUFON has many members from the military, 185 00:09:51,208 --> 00:09:53,000 from the police force, 186 00:09:53,167 --> 00:09:56,667 lawyers, PhDs, doctors. 187 00:09:56,792 --> 00:10:01,500 Those are highly, highly educated people. 188 00:10:01,625 --> 00:10:03,833 So, it's serious work 189 00:10:03,917 --> 00:10:07,083 that these investigators are doing. 190 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:12,417 POPE: MUFON is not an organization 191 00:10:12,542 --> 00:10:15,292 of wide-eyed believers. 192 00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:18,833 These are not people who think everything's an alien spaceship. 193 00:10:18,958 --> 00:10:24,333 MUFON get thousands of cases, 194 00:10:24,458 --> 00:10:27,708 and they investigate, they analyze, 195 00:10:27,833 --> 00:10:29,667 and they conclude. 196 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:33,042 And MUFON pride themselves on trying to adhere 197 00:10:33,208 --> 00:10:35,667 to the scientific method. 198 00:10:35,792 --> 00:10:37,583 TSOUKALOS: The UFO phenomenon 199 00:10:37,708 --> 00:10:41,292 goes back, in my opinion, thousands of years. 200 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:45,667 The day when it becomes accepted knowledge globally 201 00:10:45,792 --> 00:10:47,583 that we are not alone 202 00:10:47,708 --> 00:10:50,708 and never have been alone on Earth, 203 00:10:50,875 --> 00:10:56,292 I think that MUFON will be part of this paradigm shift. 204 00:10:58,542 --> 00:11:00,000 NARRATOR: For MUFON investigators, 205 00:11:00,125 --> 00:11:02,583 determining the source of an encounter 206 00:11:02,708 --> 00:11:05,750 is key to identifying what is truly unexplained. 207 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:09,500 And often, the most compelling cases 208 00:11:09,625 --> 00:11:13,167 are those in which eyewitness accounts can be corroborated 209 00:11:13,333 --> 00:11:23,292 by physical evidence. 210 00:11:25,292 --> 00:11:28,833 NARRATOR: Former British Ministry of Defence UFO investigator 211 00:11:28,958 --> 00:11:31,875 Nick Pope and Dr. Travis Taylor, 212 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,583 who was the chief scientist 213 00:11:33,708 --> 00:11:36,292 for the U.S. government's UAP Task Force, 214 00:11:36,375 --> 00:11:40,833 have arranged to meet with two seasoned MUFON researchers, 215 00:11:40,917 --> 00:11:44,333 who investigated a possible UFO landing here 216 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:47,542 in the summer of 2022. 217 00:11:47,667 --> 00:11:52,167 I'm really fascinated to see how MUFON do their investigations. 218 00:11:52,292 --> 00:11:55,250 What resources and capabilities they can bring 219 00:11:55,375 --> 00:11:57,333 to bear on these investigations. 220 00:11:57,458 --> 00:12:00,792 I find it really intriguing that at least they've taken on 221 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:02,667 that role because, in the United States, 222 00:12:02,792 --> 00:12:05,167 there is no government office 223 00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:07,500 that's set up to take UFO reports. 224 00:12:07,625 --> 00:12:09,833 With the UAP Task Force, 225 00:12:09,917 --> 00:12:13,500 we only looked at military, uh, scenarios. 226 00:12:13,625 --> 00:12:17,833 We never looked into civilian events in detail because 227 00:12:17,958 --> 00:12:21,000 we had no authority to go and investigate inside 228 00:12:21,083 --> 00:12:23,625 -the walls of the United States, right? -Right. 229 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:25,958 I'm gonna be interested to look at this case 230 00:12:26,042 --> 00:12:29,000 through the lens of the way 231 00:12:29,167 --> 00:12:31,500 we did things at the U.K. Ministry of Defence. 232 00:12:31,625 --> 00:12:34,833 We took a very methodological approach 233 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,250 to these sorts of things. 234 00:12:39,167 --> 00:12:42,375 NARRATOR: Before proceeding to the site of the alleged landing... 235 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:46,167 -Travis Taylor. -NARRATOR: Travis and Nick meet up with Robert Spearing 236 00:12:46,250 --> 00:12:49,792 and Jason Albertson, the MUFON investigators 237 00:12:49,875 --> 00:12:53,625 who conducted the original enquiry in July 2022. 238 00:12:53,708 --> 00:12:57,583 I'm MUFON's, uh, International Director of Investigations. 239 00:12:57,708 --> 00:12:59,417 Uh, I have a forensic background. 240 00:12:59,542 --> 00:13:01,250 And this is Jay Albertson. 241 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:03,500 He's a field investigator from Pennsylvania. 242 00:13:03,625 --> 00:13:05,042 I'm also retired military. 243 00:13:05,167 --> 00:13:08,208 I'm a chemical biological radiological specialist. 244 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:10,792 So, I guess one of the biggest questions to me 245 00:13:10,875 --> 00:13:13,083 is, uh, MUFON's become so huge. 246 00:13:13,208 --> 00:13:15,500 How's it funded? Or is it all volunteer? 247 00:13:15,583 --> 00:13:17,333 Are you guys getting paid to do this? 248 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:18,917 -No, everything's volunteer. -ALBERTSON: No. 249 00:13:19,042 --> 00:13:21,000 That's what I thought. That's amazing. 250 00:13:21,083 --> 00:13:23,792 MUFON is mostly funded by its membership, 251 00:13:23,875 --> 00:13:26,417 and we have about 500 field investigators right now 252 00:13:26,542 --> 00:13:28,167 from all walks of life. 253 00:13:28,292 --> 00:13:31,000 Geologists, biologists, rocket scientists, you name it. 254 00:13:31,125 --> 00:13:34,750 So, what's your process when someone makes a report to MUFON? 255 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:36,375 What happens? 256 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:38,042 When a witness submits a report, 257 00:13:38,167 --> 00:13:40,917 it goes to, uh, one of five administrators, 258 00:13:41,042 --> 00:13:42,792 and the state director will then assign it 259 00:13:42,917 --> 00:13:45,042 to a person in that area. 260 00:13:45,167 --> 00:13:46,667 Jay lived in the general area where 261 00:13:46,792 --> 00:13:49,417 the incident occurred, and 262 00:13:49,542 --> 00:13:52,417 we immediately realized that this was a case of interest. 263 00:13:52,542 --> 00:13:54,500 So, what happened? 264 00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:56,875 A woman, about 2:30 in the morning, 265 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,167 -(barking) -heard her dogs barking. 266 00:14:00,292 --> 00:14:03,042 She saw a white light coming down 267 00:14:03,167 --> 00:14:05,625 in the field behind her house. 268 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:10,167 The crickets and the cicadas had stopped making noise, 269 00:14:10,292 --> 00:14:13,917 which is unusual in the summertime in Pennsylvania. 270 00:14:14,042 --> 00:14:16,167 ALBERTSON: The woman was scared because the dogs 271 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:17,917 was going crazy, running back and forth. 272 00:14:18,042 --> 00:14:21,000 And the next morning, her husband went out 273 00:14:21,083 --> 00:14:23,667 and discovered what we call a saucer circle 274 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:26,208 about two yards in diameter. 275 00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:29,500 ALBERTSON: The pond is to your right, 276 00:14:29,625 --> 00:14:31,625 the impression is straight ahead. 277 00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:36,000 There's three circles that are burned in the center. 278 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:38,917 You have a 14-inch circle, 279 00:14:39,042 --> 00:14:41,000 perfect in the center, and you have 280 00:14:41,083 --> 00:14:43,375 two 12-inch circles on the left and right. 281 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,458 And they connect with the outside impression 282 00:14:46,542 --> 00:14:48,208 that comes down. 283 00:14:48,375 --> 00:14:50,125 TAYLOR: Circle here, and here's the big circle. 284 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:51,917 ALBERTSON: Yeah, there's another one right here it looks like. 285 00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:53,500 -TAYLOR: Yeah. -SPEARING: Could that be landing gear? 286 00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:57,917 Did the ring look dug into the ground 287 00:14:58,042 --> 00:14:59,958 or pushed into the ground? 288 00:15:00,042 --> 00:15:02,625 The outer ring, that was pushed down about a half an inch. 289 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:04,250 They hadn't mowed 290 00:15:04,375 --> 00:15:07,000 before you got there, or had they mowed over this? 291 00:15:07,125 --> 00:15:08,458 No, they hadn't mowed at all. 292 00:15:08,542 --> 00:15:09,667 ALBERTSON: Okay, got it. 293 00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:11,417 All right. 294 00:15:11,542 --> 00:15:13,500 You know, if I were going to sit here and play the role 295 00:15:13,667 --> 00:15:16,167 of a debunker, right? I'd look at things trying to 296 00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:17,750 figure this out and say, "Oh, well, 297 00:15:17,875 --> 00:15:20,167 "I've seen when I've bent my lawn mower blade, 298 00:15:20,292 --> 00:15:22,333 it cuts perfect circles like that." 299 00:15:22,458 --> 00:15:25,542 But you couldn't cut a perfect circle around it 300 00:15:25,667 --> 00:15:26,708 -where you did that. -No. 301 00:15:26,875 --> 00:15:28,042 I don't know how in the world, 302 00:15:28,167 --> 00:15:30,292 even with a zero-turn radius mower, 303 00:15:30,375 --> 00:15:32,083 -you couldn't do that. -ALBERTSON: No. 304 00:15:32,208 --> 00:15:33,500 TAYLOR: And then if it's actually depressed, 305 00:15:33,583 --> 00:15:34,667 that means that there's something that was heavy 306 00:15:34,792 --> 00:15:36,042 -sitting there. -Yes. 307 00:15:36,167 --> 00:15:37,875 Uh, so I find this really interesting. 308 00:15:39,042 --> 00:15:42,000 So, when you get to the location, 309 00:15:42,125 --> 00:15:46,042 is the first thing you do to go to these circles 310 00:15:46,167 --> 00:15:48,042 because that's what's been brought to your attention? 311 00:15:48,167 --> 00:15:49,792 And what do you find? 312 00:15:50,958 --> 00:15:54,167 ALBERTSON: The first thing I did was, I went to the circle. 313 00:15:54,250 --> 00:15:56,667 I was taking photographs and getting all my measurements 314 00:15:56,750 --> 00:15:58,417 first, and then, 315 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:00,417 when I initially was down on the ground taking samples, 316 00:16:00,542 --> 00:16:03,792 I felt a burning sensation 317 00:16:03,875 --> 00:16:06,667 on the insides of my arms on certain parts 318 00:16:06,750 --> 00:16:08,000 that I-I just couldn't understand. 319 00:16:08,125 --> 00:16:12,833 Pain, nausea, headaches, 320 00:16:12,958 --> 00:16:14,500 and me being in the military, I knew 321 00:16:14,625 --> 00:16:16,042 exactly what that could've been. 322 00:16:16,167 --> 00:16:18,417 And are you worried? Are you scared? Are you...? 323 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:22,208 At that point I was 'cause then I knew exactly... 324 00:16:22,333 --> 00:16:24,042 -TAYLOR: Could be radiation or... -I knew it was a flash burn. 325 00:16:24,167 --> 00:16:25,833 It had to have been a flash burn. 326 00:16:25,958 --> 00:16:28,375 So, do you seek medical help for that? 327 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:30,333 Yes. Yes. I went directly to the hospital. 328 00:16:31,583 --> 00:16:35,792 Yeah, they were initially just burns, and then they circled. 329 00:16:35,875 --> 00:16:39,000 They initially looked at it, and they said, "Is this a bug bite?" 330 00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:40,417 And I said, "No." 331 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:42,750 Right, because, you know, you've-- 332 00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:45,208 -Everyone's been bitten by bugs before, right? -Exactly. 333 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:46,958 You know what that feels like. 334 00:16:47,042 --> 00:16:49,667 And-and you are saying that was not what happened. 335 00:16:49,792 --> 00:16:51,167 -This is something else. -Exactly. Yes. 336 00:16:51,333 --> 00:16:53,958 ALBERTSON: After I talked to the doctor, 337 00:16:54,042 --> 00:16:59,333 he determined that it was unexplained skin eruption. 338 00:16:59,458 --> 00:17:01,333 What other data did you collect with this? 339 00:17:01,417 --> 00:17:05,083 When we got the lab results back from the MUFON lab in Missouri, 340 00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,542 the technician there told us that there were 341 00:17:07,667 --> 00:17:10,667 some heavy elements within the soil itself. 342 00:17:10,792 --> 00:17:13,167 ALBERTSON: Yeah, if you look on the back of the test here, 343 00:17:13,250 --> 00:17:16,500 it states that where it was coal mining, 344 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:17,958 toxic metals were present. 345 00:17:18,042 --> 00:17:20,792 Mercury, lead, arsenic, uh, 346 00:17:20,917 --> 00:17:24,167 cadmium, aluminum, nickel, uranium. 347 00:17:24,292 --> 00:17:25,458 This was all found in the samples. 348 00:17:25,583 --> 00:17:27,667 The technician there told us that, 349 00:17:27,792 --> 00:17:29,458 when heavy elements interact 350 00:17:29,542 --> 00:17:31,667 with the residual EMF field left over 351 00:17:31,792 --> 00:17:36,417 by whatever left the EMF field, it can become toxic for them. 352 00:17:36,542 --> 00:17:39,333 And we believe that's what started the blistering 353 00:17:39,458 --> 00:17:40,917 on-on Jay's body. 354 00:17:41,042 --> 00:17:43,833 The other thing the lab found was that 355 00:17:43,958 --> 00:17:46,542 some of the, uh, vegetation 356 00:17:46,708 --> 00:17:50,292 within the circle had been burnt from the inside out. 357 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:54,083 So, I believe, when you add in that the plant matter 358 00:17:54,208 --> 00:17:56,792 was burned from within, you have more and more evidence 359 00:17:56,875 --> 00:18:00,458 suggesting that there was a strong residual EMF field. 360 00:18:00,542 --> 00:18:03,000 TAYLOR: So, out of all the cases that you've looked at, 361 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,375 have you seen anything like this? 362 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:05,917 Not like this. 363 00:18:06,042 --> 00:18:07,208 I'd say this is one of the top three cases 364 00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:09,500 I've done, and I've done over a thousand. 365 00:18:09,667 --> 00:18:11,333 Well, I'll tell you what I would like to do. 366 00:18:11,458 --> 00:18:14,292 Uh, you guys still have your investigation kit with you? 367 00:18:14,417 --> 00:18:16,667 -Yes. -I would like to go back up there, 368 00:18:16,792 --> 00:18:19,500 and you guys go back through all the measurements you made, 369 00:18:19,583 --> 00:18:21,458 and we'll get to watch and see how you did that. 370 00:18:21,542 --> 00:18:23,750 But, at the same time, we're taking another measurement 371 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:27,083 that happened a given amount of time after the event. 372 00:18:27,208 --> 00:18:28,750 And if there are changes, 373 00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:30,750 that'll be very interesting data that we'll need to know. 374 00:18:30,875 --> 00:18:34,083 -Okay. Let's go. -Let's do it. Let's go. -Great. 375 00:18:40,125 --> 00:18:43,250 NARRATOR: November 7, 2022. 376 00:18:43,375 --> 00:18:48,500 Dr. Travis Taylor and Nick Pope are in Wapwallopen, Pennsylvania 377 00:18:48,583 --> 00:18:53,333 to see how MUFON investigates UFO sightings firsthand. 378 00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:55,333 -TAYLOR: Greetings. -NARRATOR: They arrive at the home 379 00:18:55,458 --> 00:18:57,667 of Robert and Melissa Skirchak. 380 00:18:57,792 --> 00:19:00,667 The Skirchaks are looking for answers 381 00:19:00,792 --> 00:19:04,000 as to what occurred on their property several months earlier. 382 00:19:04,083 --> 00:19:06,167 So, where abouts did this take place? 383 00:19:06,250 --> 00:19:07,708 ROBERT: Right behind you in the grass area. 384 00:19:07,833 --> 00:19:08,958 MELISSA: Right behind you in the grass area. 385 00:19:09,042 --> 00:19:10,458 Well, lead the way. Show us. 386 00:19:12,958 --> 00:19:14,542 -So, it was this close to the house? -ROBERT: Yes. 387 00:19:14,667 --> 00:19:16,292 Wow. 388 00:19:16,375 --> 00:19:17,958 -Yeah, in this area right here. -MELISSA: Over here. 389 00:19:18,083 --> 00:19:20,375 I say we-we go back and get the equipment 390 00:19:20,542 --> 00:19:22,875 out of the vehicle and then we'll let the MUFON guys 391 00:19:23,042 --> 00:19:24,500 come do their thing again. 392 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:27,125 NARRATOR: Nick and Travis are joined 393 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:29,125 by MUFON field investigators 394 00:19:29,250 --> 00:19:32,000 Jason Albertson and Robert Spearing. 395 00:19:32,125 --> 00:19:35,167 Jason and Robert will retest the area 396 00:19:35,292 --> 00:19:38,167 for radioactivity and collect more soil samples 397 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:40,375 on the Skirchak property. 398 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:43,292 The goal is to see if any lingering effects 399 00:19:43,417 --> 00:19:45,250 from the initial incident remain. 400 00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:48,167 Jay's gonna check for residual radiation, 401 00:19:48,292 --> 00:19:50,750 uh, an EMF field, residual EMF field, 402 00:19:50,875 --> 00:19:52,833 and we're gonna see if there's anything sub-ground, 403 00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:54,458 metallic underneath. 404 00:19:54,542 --> 00:19:56,208 When we do that, if it's safe to go back in, 405 00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:57,667 we're gonna do some soil samples. 406 00:19:57,792 --> 00:19:59,458 -Sure. All right. -So, let's-let's do it. 407 00:19:59,583 --> 00:20:01,083 Okay. 408 00:20:01,208 --> 00:20:02,875 TAYLOR: Jason actually has a pretty good background 409 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 for this type of, uh, investigation. 410 00:20:05,083 --> 00:20:07,917 He's from a military background doing chemical weapons disposal. 411 00:20:08,042 --> 00:20:10,042 So, he's familiar with radiation, 412 00:20:10,208 --> 00:20:11,417 electromagnetic fields, 413 00:20:11,542 --> 00:20:13,875 and that type of scientific measurement... 414 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,500 Now, you remember where it was? 415 00:20:15,625 --> 00:20:17,083 TAYLOR: ...and understanding those phenomena. 416 00:20:17,208 --> 00:20:19,125 SPEARING: Just about here. 417 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:21,708 Now, normal radiation levels in this area 418 00:20:21,833 --> 00:20:24,375 of Pennsylvania, about 50 to 68 clicks per minute? 419 00:20:24,542 --> 00:20:26,000 Yeah, that sounds about right. 420 00:20:26,125 --> 00:20:28,500 It's pretty much 65 right now, 421 00:20:28,625 --> 00:20:31,667 so I don't see any sort of dangerous radiation. 422 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:34,333 Did you find anything with the metal detector 423 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:35,708 on your initial search? 424 00:20:35,875 --> 00:20:38,042 Initially, no. Nope. 425 00:20:38,208 --> 00:20:40,458 TAYLOR: So, uh, Jason, 426 00:20:40,542 --> 00:20:42,458 you said you took samples outside of the spot? 427 00:20:42,542 --> 00:20:44,375 -Yes. -So, you took, uh, 428 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:46,875 -soil samples from the pond, grass samples... -Yes. 429 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,708 -...water samples. -Yes. 430 00:20:48,833 --> 00:20:51,917 Soil samples here and the, uh, the soil samples near the pond 431 00:20:52,042 --> 00:20:54,208 were not the same or they were the same as they were here? 432 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:55,417 -They were different. -TAYLOR: Okay. 433 00:20:55,542 --> 00:20:57,208 The interesting thing, though, is 434 00:20:57,333 --> 00:21:01,375 that right here, just ten, 20 feet away... 435 00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:03,125 -It's different. -...you have different 436 00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:04,833 minerals in the soil than you do there, 437 00:21:04,917 --> 00:21:07,458 and you would expect the runoff, since that's downhill, 438 00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:09,042 it all ought to be the same, 439 00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:10,792 which is odd. 440 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:14,583 NARRATOR: Jason and Robert are going to take fresh samples 441 00:21:14,708 --> 00:21:17,208 of the soil to test it again. 442 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,083 POPE: Jason, this is where 443 00:21:19,208 --> 00:21:21,667 -you kind of got sick yourself, right? -ALBERTSON: Yes. 444 00:21:21,792 --> 00:21:23,708 As soon as I got down to the ground, 445 00:21:23,833 --> 00:21:26,958 that's when I felt different spots in my arms 446 00:21:27,042 --> 00:21:28,792 and the insides of my arms. 447 00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:31,417 Yeah, we'll get some grass in here, too, from this. 448 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:34,250 All right, and then we'll get a control sample. 449 00:21:35,542 --> 00:21:38,000 (overlapping chatter) 450 00:21:38,167 --> 00:21:39,958 SPEARING: Yeah, I'm gonna hold on to this till it's labeled. 451 00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:41,875 Yeah. All right. 452 00:21:43,375 --> 00:21:46,833 So, we'll take the control sample. 453 00:21:46,917 --> 00:21:49,333 Yeah. There we go. 454 00:21:49,458 --> 00:21:52,583 So, this then gets labeled, 455 00:21:52,708 --> 00:21:54,833 gets sent back to the lab, 456 00:21:54,958 --> 00:21:57,417 and you maintain the chain of custody. 457 00:21:57,542 --> 00:21:58,708 TAYLOR: You've got some initial data. 458 00:21:58,833 --> 00:22:00,542 If it was just simply something on 459 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,333 the surface, it's been enough time now, 460 00:22:02,417 --> 00:22:04,333 a lot of that should've washed away. 461 00:22:04,417 --> 00:22:08,000 So, it might be that you'll find a different sample 462 00:22:08,083 --> 00:22:09,208 than what you found before. 463 00:22:09,375 --> 00:22:11,333 ALBERTSON: That's it. We're good. 464 00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:13,542 TAYLOR: I can't wait to see the results. 465 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:17,375 NARRATOR: For Travis and Nick, the Skirchak case 466 00:22:17,542 --> 00:22:20,667 has shown them the methodical nature of MUFON investigations. 467 00:22:20,750 --> 00:22:23,667 POPE: I think MUFON did a great job here. 468 00:22:23,792 --> 00:22:27,750 I was very impressed with both the investigators. 469 00:22:27,875 --> 00:22:32,458 Everything I witnessed them talk about and actually do, 470 00:22:32,542 --> 00:22:36,292 uh, resonated with me in terms of the sort of thing 471 00:22:36,417 --> 00:22:38,667 that we did in the government. 472 00:22:38,833 --> 00:22:40,833 TAYLOR: The case here at the Skirchak residence 473 00:22:40,958 --> 00:22:44,000 is a really interesting one because there's actually some, 474 00:22:44,083 --> 00:22:46,500 uh, physical evidence left behind that can be investigated. 475 00:22:46,625 --> 00:22:49,542 And the MUFON guys did a good job 476 00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:52,958 taking soil samples, electromagnetic measurements, 477 00:22:53,083 --> 00:22:55,000 gamma ray measurements, and things of that nature. 478 00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:58,083 This is the type of process that we're gonna have to 479 00:22:58,208 --> 00:23:00,167 standardize more if we're ever going to 480 00:23:00,292 --> 00:23:01,750 get to the bottom of this phenomena. 481 00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:04,833 NARRATOR: The Skirchak sighting is one 482 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,708 of MUFON's most intriguing cases of 2022. 483 00:23:08,833 --> 00:23:13,208 But deep in MUFON's files are a host of other sightings, 484 00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:15,458 many with video evidence... 485 00:23:16,958 --> 00:23:19,042 NARRATOR: ...that cannot be explained. 486 00:23:21,042 --> 00:23:23,125 Gosport, England. 487 00:23:23,208 --> 00:23:27,125 January 9, 2017. 488 00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:30,667 Just before 11:00 p.m., 489 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:33,125 residents of this city see something unusual 490 00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:35,667 in the night sky. 491 00:23:35,833 --> 00:23:37,625 NARRATOR: Dramatic video is captured 492 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:41,042 of three lights converging, separating... 493 00:23:43,292 --> 00:23:45,958 NARRATOR: ...and then reconverging. 494 00:23:46,042 --> 00:23:47,667 For MUFON investigators, 495 00:23:47,792 --> 00:23:50,958 this footage was particularly exciting. 496 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:54,917 JAMES: What makes this video especially compelling 497 00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:59,167 is that you have the visual evidence, multiple witnesses, 498 00:23:59,250 --> 00:24:02,667 and it still stands out as something we can't explain. 499 00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:04,792 That's what we call the "category three case." 500 00:24:04,875 --> 00:24:07,708 It's the one with the most potential to be unexplained. 501 00:24:09,042 --> 00:24:12,500 NARRATOR: On December 31, 2021, 502 00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:15,958 an even stranger video of an alleged UFO 503 00:24:16,083 --> 00:24:21,000 was sent to MUFON by soldiers at Tooele Army Depot in Utah. 504 00:24:21,083 --> 00:24:23,750 The soldiers filmed a strange light 505 00:24:23,875 --> 00:24:28,042 hovering in the sky for five consecutive nights. 506 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:31,333 SKYE LaFEVER: If it were some kind of a military plane, 507 00:24:31,417 --> 00:24:33,083 we would be able to detect it. 508 00:24:33,208 --> 00:24:35,542 We have our ways of finding out that this is a military craft. 509 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:37,583 We can check all the information in the area. 510 00:24:37,708 --> 00:24:39,708 There was no craft at that time. 511 00:24:39,833 --> 00:24:42,708 What makes this case so interesting to us 512 00:24:42,833 --> 00:24:45,625 is that, after this happened, 513 00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:50,417 all military personnel were released from the base. 514 00:24:50,542 --> 00:24:51,792 CHILDRESS: After the fifth night, 515 00:24:51,875 --> 00:24:54,542 military executives suddenly showed up. 516 00:24:55,542 --> 00:24:57,750 They interviewed people. 517 00:24:57,875 --> 00:25:00,333 They told everyone on the base who had seen 518 00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:03,458 these UFOs that they were dismissed. 519 00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:06,667 They told them also their clothes and things 520 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:09,750 had been contaminated by this UFO. 521 00:25:12,042 --> 00:25:14,542 NARRATOR: Are the mysterious lights in these videos 522 00:25:14,708 --> 00:25:17,792 and accounts by witnesses like the Skirchaks 523 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:22,625 evidence that extraterrestrials are visiting our planet? 524 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:26,042 For now, the answer remains a mystery. 525 00:25:26,167 --> 00:25:28,458 But each MUFON investigation 526 00:25:28,583 --> 00:25:31,250 is added to their ever-growing database 527 00:25:31,375 --> 00:25:36,625 in the hope that, one day, they will provide vital clues. 528 00:25:37,542 --> 00:25:39,500 POPE: Every time you investigate, 529 00:25:39,583 --> 00:25:42,333 you're adding to the database of knowledge, 530 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:44,417 and then you look for trends. 531 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:46,542 It's those sorts of little details 532 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:50,667 that you just store away until they come up again. 533 00:25:50,792 --> 00:25:52,167 And then maybe it tells you something 534 00:25:52,292 --> 00:25:53,292 interesting and important. 535 00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:57,667 NARRATOR: While MUFON has amassed a large inventory 536 00:25:57,833 --> 00:26:00,208 of reports they cannot explain, 537 00:26:00,375 --> 00:26:04,292 there are a few that stand out as truly astonishing. 538 00:26:05,333 --> 00:26:06,708 One of the most compelling of all 539 00:26:06,833 --> 00:26:09,458 involved multiple witnesses 540 00:26:09,542 --> 00:26:13,375 who saw not only a craft, 541 00:26:13,542 --> 00:26:17,167 but also alien visitors. 542 00:26:26,292 --> 00:26:29,333 NARRATOR: A man named Randy Young has come forward to report 543 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:33,375 a UFO encounter that happened almost 50 years earlier, 544 00:26:33,542 --> 00:26:35,583 in 1975. 545 00:26:35,708 --> 00:26:39,000 The story begins when he was ten years old 546 00:26:39,083 --> 00:26:41,125 at the Miracle Mountains Boarding School 547 00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:43,000 in Hartshorne, Oklahoma. 548 00:26:44,542 --> 00:26:48,250 YOUNG: Miracle Mountain was kind of out in the boonies of Oklahoma. 549 00:26:48,375 --> 00:26:52,417 That day, my brother and I were out in the sandbox, 550 00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:55,375 and we saw this circular, uh, shining light that was 551 00:26:55,542 --> 00:26:58,125 probably 2,000 or so feet up in the air. 552 00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:02,292 It didn't have the movements of an airplane. 553 00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:03,833 It was just hovering. 554 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,542 And, as it got darker, this craft got closer. 555 00:27:07,708 --> 00:27:10,250 It had lights that went through the midsection 556 00:27:10,375 --> 00:27:11,667 all the way around, 557 00:27:11,792 --> 00:27:15,042 and it had this classic, saucer-type shape. 558 00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:19,708 NARRATOR: For decades, Randy and his brother 559 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:22,667 kept their extraordinary encounter to themselves 560 00:27:22,792 --> 00:27:25,167 for fear of how it would be received. 561 00:27:25,292 --> 00:27:27,375 You didn't want people thinking that you're crazy, 562 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,458 you didn't want to ruin your reputation. 563 00:27:29,583 --> 00:27:32,500 But, in the back of my mind, that story was always there, 564 00:27:32,625 --> 00:27:35,958 and with all that has been going on with, um, the government, 565 00:27:36,083 --> 00:27:37,667 the military, jets that are, 566 00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:39,083 you know, tracking these things, 567 00:27:39,208 --> 00:27:42,000 and there's been a lot more talk about it recently. 568 00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:44,792 I'm like, okay, if they're talking 569 00:27:44,917 --> 00:27:47,333 this big at this level, they got to hear this story. 570 00:27:47,417 --> 00:27:49,583 They need to know about what had happened in Hartshorne 571 00:27:49,708 --> 00:27:52,333 in 1975, and so, I contacted MUFON. 572 00:27:53,375 --> 00:27:56,458 NARRATOR: The report reached the desk of Mindy Tautfest, 573 00:27:56,583 --> 00:27:59,125 the Oklahoma state MUFON director. 574 00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:02,667 TAUTFEST: Randy filed an official report through mufon.com, 575 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:05,208 and I immediately knew, after reading it, 576 00:28:05,375 --> 00:28:08,583 that this case could be a very, very important case 577 00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:11,125 to all of UFO history. 578 00:28:11,208 --> 00:28:14,667 I first reached out to Randy and interviewed him. 579 00:28:14,792 --> 00:28:18,542 The next person I spoke to was Philip Buchanan. 580 00:28:18,667 --> 00:28:20,583 Philip was one of the older children 581 00:28:20,708 --> 00:28:22,333 at the school at the time. 582 00:28:22,458 --> 00:28:25,208 And so, he has one of the more complete memories 583 00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:26,750 of what transpired there 584 00:28:26,875 --> 00:28:29,958 and the operations of the school itself. 585 00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:33,958 And then, I spoke with the teacher via email. 586 00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:38,667 And the teacher described that some of the kids were hiding 587 00:28:38,792 --> 00:28:41,292 under the beds because they were very terrified, 588 00:28:41,375 --> 00:28:45,500 and some of the kids were looking out the window. 589 00:28:45,667 --> 00:28:48,667 They reported to see shapeshifting 590 00:28:48,792 --> 00:28:50,042 entities out there. 591 00:28:50,208 --> 00:28:53,875 They just said, "It keeps changing." 592 00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:59,250 JAMES: What Mindy found out after doing all that work 593 00:28:59,375 --> 00:29:02,333 is that these kids were recalling the exact same thing. 594 00:29:03,583 --> 00:29:06,708 As these witnesses were telling their stories years later, 595 00:29:06,833 --> 00:29:08,833 one of the things Mindy asked them to do 596 00:29:08,917 --> 00:29:11,875 was to actually draw the UFO that they'd seen. 597 00:29:12,042 --> 00:29:14,875 And the consistency is amazing. 598 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,167 And not only are they telling the same story, 599 00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:20,000 but they're describing the same craft. 600 00:29:20,083 --> 00:29:22,750 It shows us that these old historic cases 601 00:29:22,875 --> 00:29:24,667 still have something to offer. 602 00:29:24,833 --> 00:29:28,833 YOUNG: I think that, um, we need an organization like MUFON. 603 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,333 I think we need to have a database for all these 604 00:29:31,417 --> 00:29:33,042 different incidents, and I think that 605 00:29:33,208 --> 00:29:36,000 we need to have, um, as many eyes 606 00:29:36,083 --> 00:29:38,167 and as many investigators on this as possible. 607 00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:40,292 We need to figure out what's going on. 608 00:29:41,583 --> 00:29:44,583 TAUTFEST: There's been a lot of excitement around this story 609 00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:46,500 because there were a lot of things 610 00:29:46,583 --> 00:29:49,083 that corroborated each other. 611 00:29:49,208 --> 00:29:52,500 We find value in all UFO reports, 612 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:54,083 and some of the older ones 613 00:29:54,208 --> 00:29:56,417 serve to validate some other sightings 614 00:29:56,542 --> 00:29:58,000 that may be in our database. 615 00:29:58,167 --> 00:30:02,500 And so, the older historic cases really have a lot of value 616 00:30:02,625 --> 00:30:04,875 whenever it comes to ufology. 617 00:30:06,292 --> 00:30:10,500 TSOUKALOS: This cold case is one of the most fascinating cases 618 00:30:10,625 --> 00:30:13,542 that MUFON's ever investigated 619 00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:16,000 because students, 620 00:30:16,125 --> 00:30:19,167 they had not spoken to each other since 1975, 621 00:30:19,292 --> 00:30:24,000 and they all replied with the same answers, 622 00:30:24,167 --> 00:30:26,875 which indicates that something happened, 623 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,542 and everybody saw the same thing. 624 00:30:30,667 --> 00:30:32,833 In the ancient astronaut opinion, 625 00:30:32,958 --> 00:30:35,375 those stories of UFOs today 626 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:39,000 are the same stories that our ancestors 627 00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:42,042 in the remote past also explored. 628 00:30:42,167 --> 00:30:44,458 Their cell phone cameras 629 00:30:44,542 --> 00:30:46,375 were the walls of caves 630 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,167 and reliefs and carvings 631 00:30:49,292 --> 00:30:52,167 in which they commemorated those 632 00:30:52,292 --> 00:30:54,833 incredibly significant events 633 00:30:54,958 --> 00:30:58,375 that they were eyewitnesses to. 634 00:30:59,708 --> 00:31:03,208 NARRATOR: Is MUFON's growing database further evidence 635 00:31:03,375 --> 00:31:05,917 that extraterrestrial beings have been visiting 636 00:31:06,042 --> 00:31:08,333 our planet for thousands of years, 637 00:31:08,458 --> 00:31:11,000 as ancient astronaut theorists suggest? 638 00:31:11,083 --> 00:31:14,833 And if so, what do they want? 639 00:31:14,958 --> 00:31:18,458 Perhaps clues can be found in MUFON reports 640 00:31:18,542 --> 00:31:21,083 that go beyond UFO sightings 641 00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:24,542 and describe terrifying encounters. 642 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:32,042 NARRATOR: Each year, the Mutual UFO Network 643 00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:34,667 receives approximately 10,000 reports 644 00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:36,500 of UFO phenomena. 645 00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:41,125 While most involve sightings of strange objects in the sky, 646 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:44,083 in some cases, the witness claims 647 00:31:44,208 --> 00:31:48,000 to have come face-to-face with an alien entity. 648 00:31:48,125 --> 00:31:51,125 A lot of people that approach MUFON 649 00:31:51,250 --> 00:31:54,000 have these stories of having these personal encounters 650 00:31:54,125 --> 00:31:56,000 with entities that they can't explain. 651 00:31:56,125 --> 00:31:59,292 But we found over the years is that there 652 00:31:59,375 --> 00:32:02,458 is serious validity to this phenomenon. 653 00:32:02,583 --> 00:32:07,500 KATHLEEN MARDEN: I believe that worldwide there are millions of people 654 00:32:07,625 --> 00:32:09,375 who have had these encounters, 655 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,875 but it is very, very difficult for a lot of people 656 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,708 to come forward. 657 00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:18,167 Maybe they told their family, maybe they told a good friend, 658 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:19,917 and they were laughed at. 659 00:32:20,042 --> 00:32:22,292 They feel that they really need 660 00:32:22,417 --> 00:32:25,625 to talk to someone, but they can't. 661 00:32:26,917 --> 00:32:31,417 NARRATOR: In 2011, MUFON formed the Experiencer Resource Team, 662 00:32:31,542 --> 00:32:35,250 a program dedicated to assisting those who claim 663 00:32:35,375 --> 00:32:39,750 to have been traumatized by extraterrestrial encounters. 664 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:44,667 MARDEN: We receive up to 150 reports per month from the people 665 00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:48,167 who believe that they have had a missing time event, 666 00:32:48,292 --> 00:32:50,958 they've had a close encounter with a craft, 667 00:32:51,083 --> 00:32:54,167 sometimes observed nonhuman entities, 668 00:32:54,333 --> 00:32:57,292 and we've worked with members of the military, 669 00:32:57,417 --> 00:33:00,000 we've worked with medical doctors, 670 00:33:00,083 --> 00:33:01,417 we've worked with business owners, 671 00:33:01,542 --> 00:33:04,750 credible people who have a lot to lose. 672 00:33:04,875 --> 00:33:07,542 Oftentimes, they're frightened. 673 00:33:07,708 --> 00:33:10,833 So, they are seeking assistance 674 00:33:10,958 --> 00:33:13,417 in overcoming the fear 675 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,958 and in gaining a better understanding 676 00:33:16,042 --> 00:33:17,708 of what is occurring. 677 00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:21,000 NARRATOR: One such encounter reported to MUFON 678 00:33:21,125 --> 00:33:26,375 was made by trauma nurse Earl Gray Anderson in 2016, 679 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:31,083 just weeks after he had joined MUFON as a field investigator. 680 00:33:32,208 --> 00:33:35,958 Earl was at his home in Los Angeles when his room was 681 00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:39,542 suddenly illuminated by a mysterious light. 682 00:33:40,458 --> 00:33:43,458 Our room started filling with light, 683 00:33:43,583 --> 00:33:46,167 and it was a light with no source. 684 00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:50,167 It wasn't coming from an object or a lamp or outside. 685 00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:53,875 And the wall opened up. 686 00:33:54,042 --> 00:33:57,042 I couldn't move. I was paralyzed. 687 00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:59,875 And that was when I first started feeling afraid. 688 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,333 I saw these little diminutive creatures. 689 00:34:04,458 --> 00:34:06,833 You would call them the Small Grays. 690 00:34:07,875 --> 00:34:10,958 It was almost like watching a surgical team work. 691 00:34:11,042 --> 00:34:13,333 There were these tubes that they attached 692 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,250 to the top of my chest, and I felt like they were 693 00:34:16,375 --> 00:34:20,000 draining blood or-or energy, life force from me. 694 00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:21,833 I was yelling in my mind, 695 00:34:21,958 --> 00:34:24,042 and I was crying out for them to stop. 696 00:34:24,167 --> 00:34:28,083 But they were not listening to me. 697 00:34:28,208 --> 00:34:31,792 They pulled backwards, out the same way they came in. 698 00:34:31,917 --> 00:34:33,917 The wall, like, seemed to swirl, 699 00:34:34,042 --> 00:34:36,583 almost like a little galaxy in the room. 700 00:34:38,208 --> 00:34:40,375 And it was back to normal, 701 00:34:40,542 --> 00:34:42,833 except there was still light in our room. 702 00:34:42,958 --> 00:34:48,042 The light didn't fade for a good five minutes with no source. 703 00:34:48,208 --> 00:34:50,375 After the experience, 704 00:34:50,542 --> 00:34:54,458 I didn't tell friends and-and family. 705 00:34:54,583 --> 00:34:57,333 I mean, you're gonna feel skepticism if somebody says 706 00:34:57,417 --> 00:35:00,500 that, you know, you've just became a field investigator, 707 00:35:00,583 --> 00:35:04,125 and I'm suddenly saying that I was visited by ETs. 708 00:35:04,208 --> 00:35:06,292 But it scared the hell out of me. 709 00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:08,833 It was very, very serious. 710 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,333 NARRATOR: Earl eventually reached out 711 00:35:11,458 --> 00:35:14,333 to MUFON's Experiencer Resource Team, 712 00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:16,375 and after sharing his encounter, 713 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:21,042 he decided to become a member of the ERT himself. 714 00:35:21,167 --> 00:35:25,125 ANDERSON: It was very, very helpful to have someone to listen. 715 00:35:25,208 --> 00:35:27,917 And-and that's what I find in my own dealings 716 00:35:28,042 --> 00:35:29,708 with experiencers now. 717 00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:32,542 The ERT is MUFON's... 718 00:35:32,708 --> 00:35:36,000 it's-it's like the compassionate wing of MUFON. 719 00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:39,167 Like social workers for experiencers. 720 00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:41,875 NARRATOR: By working closely with individuals 721 00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:44,000 who claim to have been abducted, 722 00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:47,125 MUFON has compiled a wide range of data 723 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:50,458 on the experiencer phenomenon. 724 00:35:51,417 --> 00:35:54,833 TAUTFEST: The data that we collect is pretty interesting. 725 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,500 And we try to find patterns. 726 00:35:57,583 --> 00:36:00,333 It's really kind of astounding, whenever you break it down 727 00:36:00,417 --> 00:36:03,708 and look at the different commonalities 728 00:36:03,875 --> 00:36:07,500 between these different sightings or abductions. 729 00:36:08,708 --> 00:36:13,500 MARDEN: Most experiencers have conscious continuous recall 730 00:36:13,625 --> 00:36:15,708 of being awake. 731 00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:18,208 They become paralyzed. 732 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:21,750 They have a sense of an electrical tingling 733 00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:23,917 sensation through their bodies. 734 00:36:24,042 --> 00:36:28,667 They might hear high-pitched buzzing tones in their heads. 735 00:36:28,792 --> 00:36:32,750 We used to think that abduction occurred only once, 736 00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:36,333 but after years of research, we've realized that 737 00:36:36,417 --> 00:36:41,500 individuals are taken multiple times over a lifetime. 738 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:43,750 We are gaining a better understanding 739 00:36:43,875 --> 00:36:45,333 of what is occurring. 740 00:36:45,417 --> 00:36:49,000 NARRATOR: With the volume of empirical data 741 00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,500 that has been collected over the years 742 00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:55,375 related to mysterious sightings and reported encounters, 743 00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:58,208 is it possible that the organization 744 00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:01,083 could be on the verge of a major breakthrough 745 00:37:01,208 --> 00:37:03,333 in the UFO phenomenon? 746 00:37:04,583 --> 00:37:06,833 For ancient astronaut theorists, 747 00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:09,542 the answer is a resounding yes. 748 00:37:09,708 --> 00:37:13,417 And they believe it will come thanks to emerging 749 00:37:13,542 --> 00:37:16,292 cooperative efforts between MUFON 750 00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:19,375 and the United States government. 751 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:32,750 NARRATOR: UFO enthusiasts across the nation 752 00:37:32,875 --> 00:37:37,167 tune in to watch as a Congressional subcommittee holds 753 00:37:37,292 --> 00:37:40,333 a hearing on UFOs for the first time 754 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,292 in more than 50 years. 755 00:37:42,417 --> 00:37:46,000 Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential 756 00:37:46,167 --> 00:37:47,667 national security threat, 757 00:37:47,792 --> 00:37:49,250 and they need to be treated that way. 758 00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:53,417 NARRATOR: The last hearing, held in 1968, 759 00:37:53,542 --> 00:37:56,000 was called to discuss Project Blue Book, 760 00:37:56,125 --> 00:38:01,250 the U.S. government's first official UFO investigations. 761 00:38:01,375 --> 00:38:03,875 POPE: By the late '60s, 762 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,250 Project Blue Book had been going for many years, and 763 00:38:07,375 --> 00:38:09,542 whatever the U.S. government knew 764 00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:13,750 about UFOs behind the scenes, this public program 765 00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:17,167 was just considered by senior military officers 766 00:38:17,292 --> 00:38:18,708 a waste of time and money. 767 00:38:18,833 --> 00:38:21,500 So, they wanted to get out of the game. 768 00:38:21,583 --> 00:38:24,333 And they got the answer they wanted. 769 00:38:24,458 --> 00:38:28,542 A recommendation that the Air Force disengaged from this. 770 00:38:28,708 --> 00:38:33,333 So, we've had decades of playing the whole thing down, 771 00:38:33,458 --> 00:38:35,250 and now, it's as if they're putting it out there 772 00:38:35,375 --> 00:38:37,167 in front of us all. 773 00:38:37,292 --> 00:38:41,292 We know that our service members have encountered 774 00:38:41,417 --> 00:38:43,500 unidentified aerial phenomena. 775 00:38:43,625 --> 00:38:49,000 POPE: Some absolutely fascinating information was disclosed. 776 00:38:49,125 --> 00:38:52,833 The briefers presented evidence, 777 00:38:52,917 --> 00:38:56,333 talked about how there had been near misses 778 00:38:56,417 --> 00:39:00,875 between UAP and military jets. 779 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,667 There was discussion about how these-these objects 780 00:39:04,792 --> 00:39:08,167 moved with no visible propulsion. 781 00:39:08,292 --> 00:39:10,500 It looks, uh, reflective in this video, 782 00:39:10,583 --> 00:39:13,083 somewhat reflective, uh, and it quickly passes 783 00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:16,750 by cockpit of the, uh, of the aircraft. 784 00:39:16,875 --> 00:39:21,042 So, this was absolutely groundbreaking. 785 00:39:21,167 --> 00:39:24,292 NARRATOR: A major contributor to the hearing 786 00:39:24,375 --> 00:39:25,917 was Jessica Tocco, 787 00:39:26,042 --> 00:39:28,833 a lobbyist who briefed committee members 788 00:39:28,917 --> 00:39:33,833 about civilian UFO encounters on behalf of MUFON. 789 00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:37,667 The Mutual UFO Network was founded around the time 790 00:39:37,792 --> 00:39:39,458 that Project Blue Book was disbanded. 791 00:39:39,583 --> 00:39:42,917 So, to work with the government on this issue, 792 00:39:43,042 --> 00:39:44,375 and that there were elected officials 793 00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:45,833 who were very interested, 794 00:39:45,958 --> 00:39:48,000 that was groundbreaking and historic. 795 00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:52,125 NARRATOR: Many hailed the hearing as a historic breakthrough, 796 00:39:52,208 --> 00:39:56,167 one that could potentially usher in a new era of government 797 00:39:56,333 --> 00:39:59,833 cooperation with civilian UFO research. 798 00:39:59,958 --> 00:40:03,583 When that day comes, MUFON investigators believe 799 00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:05,500 their large database 800 00:40:05,625 --> 00:40:09,167 will prove vital to future investigations. 801 00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,542 TAUTFEST: MUFON stands ready to assist 802 00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:15,125 the government in any way that we can. 803 00:40:15,250 --> 00:40:18,083 We are really at the forefront 804 00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:19,708 of UFO investigation. 805 00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:22,833 JAMES: We have the world's largest database 806 00:40:22,917 --> 00:40:25,542 of UFO sightings and investigations. 807 00:40:25,667 --> 00:40:26,875 Here's the thing, though, we'll never say, 808 00:40:27,042 --> 00:40:29,708 "Oh, it was definitely extraterrestrial." 809 00:40:29,833 --> 00:40:31,958 We can't scientifically prove that. 810 00:40:32,042 --> 00:40:34,500 Now, we can say that it's unexplained, 811 00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:36,000 and that we don't know what it was. 812 00:40:36,083 --> 00:40:37,542 We're going after the truth. 813 00:40:38,875 --> 00:40:43,417 TSOUKALOS: MUFON has amassed this treasure chest 814 00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:46,500 of investigative reports of cases 815 00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:48,542 that are very similar 816 00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:52,500 to stories of our ancestors that say 817 00:40:52,625 --> 00:40:57,875 that they have witnessed strange events up in the sky. 818 00:40:58,042 --> 00:41:01,167 There is a connection between the two, 819 00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:04,667 and, usually, the simplest solution is the correct one. 820 00:41:04,833 --> 00:41:09,417 In my opinion, the suggestion of extraterrestrials 821 00:41:09,542 --> 00:41:11,667 is the simplest solution 822 00:41:11,792 --> 00:41:16,208 to explain this phenomenon, this aerial thing that goes on 823 00:41:16,375 --> 00:41:19,042 up in the sky for thousands of years. 824 00:41:19,167 --> 00:41:23,250 NARRATOR: From ancient depictions of disc-shaped objects 825 00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:25,333 and strange figures, 826 00:41:25,458 --> 00:41:28,583 to modern-day video footage of UFOs 827 00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:32,667 and accounts of alien abductions, 828 00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:36,833 does evidence exist that, for thousands of years, 829 00:41:36,958 --> 00:41:40,292 Earth has been visited by extraterrestrials? 830 00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:43,625 And as the public becomes more open 831 00:41:43,708 --> 00:41:47,208 to discussing this incredible possibility, 832 00:41:47,333 --> 00:41:49,375 and sharing personal experiences, 833 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:52,958 will we arrive at a definitive answer? 834 00:41:53,042 --> 00:41:56,583 Perhaps as the evidence continues to mount, 835 00:41:56,708 --> 00:41:58,667 and more witnesses come forward, 836 00:41:58,792 --> 00:42:03,208 we will finally arrive at the undeniable truth 837 00:42:03,375 --> 00:42:04,875 that we are not alone. 838 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,042 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 67253

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