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-(excited chatter)
-ERIK: You got it?
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MATTY:
Season Five
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of The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch
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continues to reveal
strange happenings,
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-both high...
-TRAVIS: What is it?
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There is absolutely electricity
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-built up on this thing.
-MATTY: ...and low.
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-There shouldn't be any,
should there?
-TRAVIS: No.
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MATTY:
So tonight,
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I'm meeting with principal
investigator Erik Bard
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and astrophysicist
Dr. Travis Taylor...
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...about how they are
applying hard science...
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TRAVIS:
It's a very difficult task.
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We just start trying
everything we can think of.
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MATTY:
...to solve a mystery
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that defies everything
we thought we knew...
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TRAVIS:
UAP right there!
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ERIK:
The very active observation may
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have stimulated
the appearance of these things.
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MATTY:
...about the laws of nature.
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It's completely unknown.
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TRAVIS:
Holy cow! Look at that.
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♪ ♪
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Guys, thank you for meeting me
here at Homestead Two.
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It's great to be back.
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Season Five has been incredible.
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You know, we've seen with
each year of the investigation,
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new manifestations of what we've
been calling the phenomenon,
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which, frankly,
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I'm uncomfortable
referring to it in the singular
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because there are,
in fact, many phenomena
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that play out here
on the property.
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-Travis?
-TRAVIS: We've looked across
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different physics, chemistry,
math, sciences,
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everything you can think of.
Engineering technologies.
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And we seem to find
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some aspect of whatever
this phenomenon
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is or are, across
every measurement we make.
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So that suggests that
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if it's a singular phenomenon,
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then it's
extremely encompassing.
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And if it's multiple phenomena,
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then what in the world
are we dealing with?
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Because there's many of them.
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-Right.
-ERIK: I was initially
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coming into this thinking
that we might be dealing
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with some kind of geophysics
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or atmospheric physics
that might be easily explained.
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But we find
that the deeper we dig,
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or the higher we look,
for that matter,
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the more we find.
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KALEB: Oh, right there.
I see it.
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BRYANT:
Oh, yeah.
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Is that something walking
on the ground?
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What is that thing
that flew into the mesa?
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Wow, it's unbelievable.
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Holy crap. Look at this.
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We've got a signal right now
that's pulsing.
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I think it's two things
talking to each other.
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That is crazy.
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What is that?
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Straight up, it's right there.
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BRYANT: Right here.
It's right above our heads.
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TRAVIS:
Right there!
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Are you both confident
that the scientific method
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could potentially solve
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something that's
so ethereal and strange?
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The scientific method tells us,
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do your homework,
study everything you can
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about whatever it is
you're looking into.
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Then form a hypothesis
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that you can actually
test and falsify,
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or verify
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through a measurement
or an experiment."
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Conduct that experiment,
collect the data,
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then report on the data
after you do some analysis.
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And we're making
measurements and experiments
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-to test that hypothesis.
-Got it.
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Let's talk about the kinds
of things we're measuring here.
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-Please.
-ERIK: We've seen
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microwave radiation,
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-gamma rays, even neutrons.
-Even neutrons.
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ERIK: And, Matty,
we've all been advised
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that we may be
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sitting on top
of something artificial,
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technological.
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In other words, you know,
there is in the narrative
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the idea of something
underground.
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-Yeah.
-Like an alien base
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-or something crazy like that.
-Right.
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-Right.
-ERIK: But the fact is,
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we're dealing with a transient
phenomenon, which means
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something that can be,
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absent most of the time
and present in an instant.
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That is fascinating.
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When we first got out here,
the very first day,
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we measured radiation signals
that were disturbing.
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And so, we had
a sweep done for safety
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to make sure
that there's not a continuous,
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always-on, uh, source
of something dangerous.
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And there was nothing here.
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But then, we were picking up
a-a microwave signal,
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at 1.6 gigahertz.
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And so, to put that
in perspective,
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your microwave oven that you
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pop popcorn with is
at 2.45 gigahertz.
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And so is your Wi-Fi router.
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-All right.
-So we're at about half
that frequency.
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But we can't figure out
where it's coming from.
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I'm not sure when we're holding
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these meters any particular way,
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which direction
the signal's coming from.
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TRAVIS:
So we developed
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a high school science project
level experiment
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where you use coffee cans,
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and you put a detector
inside the can
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so that the only way
that a signal can get
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to the detector is
if it's coming
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from the direction
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of inside
the opening in the can.
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(detector squealing)
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So I get my biggest readings
when I'm like this looking up.
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It's coming from up there.
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Well, the strongest
signal's coming
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from this spot roughly
5,000 feet above the ranch.
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And it turned out to be
right over the triangle
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where this signal
seemed to be coming from.
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And that's when
I talked with Erik and said,
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"Erik, we really need
a way to map this."
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So I took the initiative
to-to create a map,
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not only of the ranch--
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where the radiation is
coming from--
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but in fact,
of the entire Uinta Basin.
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This is a three-dimensional
model of the Uinta Basin.
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We're basically talking
about a very shallow bowl.
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And of interest to us,
of course, is
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what's the origin of that bowl,
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and the kinds of things
we're measuring here?
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Well, one of my PhD
dissertation topics was actually
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on impact crater sites.
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And it got us
to looking at this,
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and I realized the Uinta Basin
looks a lot like it was
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a, uh, impact site
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sometime in the distant past.
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So it's possible that there's
something impacted here in Utah.
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Uh, it could have been
a comet, an asteroid
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or even a crashing
alien spacecraft,
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UAP, who knows?
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We don't know what it was,
but it does look like
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something impacted here,
created this bowl shape
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that is causing
these reflected energy signals
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that we're measuring.
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Incredible. The notion
of a impact site from a UAP.
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And that's exactly
what I want to talk about next--
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aerial phenomena,
and how you might use science
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to track, categorize,
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and maybe even stimulate them.
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And I want to do that next.
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What could possibly explain
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all the incredible
aerial phenomena
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that's being experienced here
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on Skinwalker Ranch?
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Well, here to tell us
once and for all
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exactly what UAPs are,
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are Erik Bard and Travis Taylor.
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-That's a tall order.
-Yeah.
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You're not asking for much.
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I'm kind of kidding, of course.
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But maybe you two are closer
than anyone ever has been
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to using science to explain
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-what it might be.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
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UAP originally coined as, uh,
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"unidentified aerial phenomena,"
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then "aerospace phenomena,"
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and now it's
"anomalous phenomena."
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Indeed, you know, obviously,
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the "U" part of UAP plays
a big role here.
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There's a lot of stuff we see
that we cannot identify.
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Things that appear to be
at very high altitude,
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and in some cases,
only a few hundred feet
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above the earth here.
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In some cases,
actually inside the Earth.
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(exhales)
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ERIK:
Recently, as you've seen,
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something that may, in fact,
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be what we call
a transmedium phenomenon.
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Something passing
through the earth itself
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and emerging here
on the property
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not far from the triangle.
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Watch what happens in the sky
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just above the mesa.
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TRAVIS:
Whoa.
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-Okay, look, look.
-TRAVIS: Look at that.
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ERIK: Right there.
This is the feature of interest.
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BRANDON:
Right. I'm seeing it.
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TRAVIS:
It went behind the mesa.
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BRYANT:
Where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
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Did it go right behind the mesa?
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Yes. And on closer inspection,
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it appears as if there's
a corresponding light
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and illuminated area
on the mesa itself.
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-Right there. Right there.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
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Now, watch what happens
as we play through.
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-TRAVIS: Oh! Right there. Look.
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-Oh, my gosh.
-There it goes. Oh, my gosh.
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We ask ourselves
all the time, why here?
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Why in the middle of Utah?
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Why in the middle of nowhere
are we seeing
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so many of these phenomena
that we can't determine
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what they are
and why they're here?
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ERIK: Matty,
when I came into this work,
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I was searching for what we
would call a prosaic answer,
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-a mundane answer.
-Sure.
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Maybe something
out of nature and ideas
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like ball lightning
or so-called earthquake lights.
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Things that could have
geophysical causes
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were high on the list
of possibilities.
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-Sure.
-ERIK: But as we've continued,
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what I would call
the observational science,
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which includes things like
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surveillance cameras,
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monitoring
and measurement systems,
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we've seen that we've got
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more than just meets the eye
going on here.
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We have things that,
right here where we sit,
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I captured something
that appeared to be
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-undergoing a kind
of searching behavior.
-Yeah.
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Right over this road.
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TRAVIS: We would
call it an orb, probably.
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ERIK: I think,
I think it would've been
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categorized as an orb.
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We've seen all sorts of things
that could range from possibly
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a nuts-and-bolts craft
that we saw last year
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over the east canyon field
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to energy manifestations, like
flying into and out of the mesa.
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It was hard to tell if that had
any physical structure to it.
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And even UAP that seemed to have
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some sort of energy field
or bubble around them.
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Like, I'm thinking of the one,
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unfortunately,
where the cow died.
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In this case, I was studying
what was happening
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with this cow that passed away
there at the fence line...
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The surveillance cameras
captured the ordeal
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that this animal went through
over a period of several hours.
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TOM:
Is that black object the cow?
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ERIK:
Yeah, that's it, Tom.
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The cow is right here.
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What we'll do is
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go forward very slowly
and watch what happens with her.
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Now, you see
the cow starts to get up.
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So here,
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I can't help but also notice
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that there's something
happening here.
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-TRAVIS: Oh, whoa, look at that.
-TOM: Right there.
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TRAVIS:
Look at that.
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The moment that
that object appeared
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above the cow,
the cow was reacting.
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Yes.
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ERIK: At that moment,
as the cow raises her head
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in what were probably
the last moments of her life,
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we see something moving
at very high velocity,
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over that fence line.
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Potentially very fast.
Hypersonic, even.
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-Incredible.
-You know, that particular thing
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we saw there, Erik,
hovering over the cow,
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and then, that darted off,
when we do analysis into it,
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it's not unlike the Gimbal video
that everybody's aware of.
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There seems to be an artifact
around whatever this object is
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that looks like sort of a halo
or a bubble around it.
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Now, it's unclear,
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with the one
that we measured over the cow,
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if it was an artifact
of encoding in the camera
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or if it was real.
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But since it looks
very similar to what we saw,
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we can't say 100% that there
is some kind of halo or bubble
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around what we saw,
but it is possible.
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And if it is,
that could be a telltale sign
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of whatever its propulsion
mechanism could be,
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like the warp bubbles
from science fiction.
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Incredible.
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We've talked about
aerial phenomena
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that you happen to catch,
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but I'd like to talk about
the ones that maybe
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you've perhaps stimulated
using science and experiments.
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And it's that I want
to focus on, coming up.
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Yeah, let's do it.
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captured
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on film unexpectedly,
and they're incredible.
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But there's many times,
following your journey,
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that you have used experiments
to maybe draw these things out.
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Yeah, so that's called
a-a dog whistle.
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You know,
you blow the dog whistle
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and the dogs come running.
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-Right.
-Well, we kind of also
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refer to it in a vernacular
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that my, uh,
grandmother gave us,
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and it was
"poking the hornet's nest."
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-Mm.
-And so, we often
poke the hornet's nest
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to see what flies out.
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I suppose one
scientific question would be,
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are those UAPs always there
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or are your experiments
directly causing them to appear?
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That is really
the question for me.
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You know,
we often say to each other,
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-"correlation is not causation."
-Absolutely.
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-Ah, right. Right.
-ERIK: We don't know
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the answer to your question.
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But there's so many ways
in which we may have stimulated
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the appearance of these things.
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We've seen things
as if stimulated,
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above the ranch when we've
launched swarms of drones.
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-Drones are armed.
-TRAVIS: All right,
drones are going,
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the drones are going.
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Wow, look at that.
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ERIK:
Oh, wow.
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TRAVIS:
You did see something
in the FLIR?
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ERIK:
Yep, moving up here
from the center
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up towards the upper
left-hand corner of the screen.
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Oh, what is that?
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ERIK:
And when we have directed
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very powerful lasers
into the space
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directly above the triangle...
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Travis, you-you got to see this.
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-Okay...
-Well, there's the lasers.
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Yeah, I'm doing
an instant playback.
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-You see this?
-Oh. Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Wow. It's moving
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way too fast
for it to be a satellite.
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ERIK:
This thing's really
clipping along.
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BRANDON:
Oh, my gosh.
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It disappeared. That's insane.
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We've heard people say,
"Oh, when you launch
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the rockets, the UFOs show up."
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Well, we don't know that
for 100% accuracy.
335
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-What we do know...
-Smoke's hot.
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...is that a lot of times,
when we fire rockets,
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that correlates
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with the sighting
of some sort of phenomena.
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-Hey, look! UAP right there!
-KALEB: Yep,
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-I see it.
-BRYANT: Yep, there it is,
you got one.
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Now, we fire the rockets
for scientific purposes.
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They're a-a cheap way
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to put a sensor
1,000 feet in the sky.
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You've seen these things,
you've done the experiments,
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you've seen them appear.
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What does your scientific gut
tell you if that's a thing?
347
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You've both been doing this
a long time.
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I-I think right now,
you could say
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we have so much, uh, data
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that there's certainly something
strange occurring here.
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Right now,
we're trying to overlay,
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does it occur more
when we poke the nest
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-than it does just at random?
-Mm-hmm.
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-Yeah, I'd agree with that.
-You have described
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various types
of aerial phenomena,
356
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but there's also something
in the mesa behind me.
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Can you speak
to that possibility,
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and what science might be
telling you about that?
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-Well, I can begin
to speak to it.
-Okay.
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You see us
drilling into the mesa
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looking for these anomalies
that we see coming out
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in ground-penetrating radar,
or GPR.
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This is something
that is without precedent.
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Here's what we know.
365
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The profile of the drill bit
that went in got pushed down,
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and then came up
on the backside of it...
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Yeah, I'm up against
something pretty hard right now.
368
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TRAVIS:
...making an arc shape
or a dome shape
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or the bottom of a saucer.
370
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What's going on, Thomas?
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The drill has encountered
a hard object
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-that it cannot penetrate.
-Wow.
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TRAVIS: We came back
and drilled higher up,
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and something pushed it up
and then it went over.
375
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What if it does turn out to be
something fantastic and amazing?
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We don't want to destroy it
by just blowing up the mesa.
377
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-Right.
-ERIK: Now famously,
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we've brought these shards
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of material out
that have all kinds
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of interesting layering.
381
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We're talking about
iron and aluminum,
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but also some other
interesting elements like
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vanadium and tellurium.
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TRAVIS:
And when we took that
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to the University of Utah,
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and had the, uh, metallurgy
department look into it there,
387
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they assured us that this
was a manufactured material,
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there is no natural phenomena
that could create it
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and that it is centered
like a ceramic material,
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just like the materials
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that are the reentry tiles
on the Space Shuttle.
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Uh, so, what on earth is that,
and why is it
393
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300 feet inside the mesa
here at Skinwalker Ranch?
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-Awesome.
-ERIK: And when you put that
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in the context of things
we've been told about the mesa
396
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and things flying into it,
397
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I mean, all of that together
tells a fascinating story.
398
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Well, the mesa
continues to astound.
399
00:16:23,792 --> 00:16:26,458
I don't know if you've
mentally allowed yourself
400
00:16:26,625 --> 00:16:30,375
the possibility of pulling
a craft out of the mesa, but...
401
00:16:30,542 --> 00:16:32,042
we can't wait to see
what happens next.
402
00:16:32,208 --> 00:16:34,875
Everything you've done
scientifically might be pointing
403
00:16:35,042 --> 00:16:37,750
to exactly where
this phenomena is coming from,
404
00:16:37,917 --> 00:16:39,667
and I want to talk
about that next.
405
00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:41,125
All right.
406
00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:49,042
Is there an explanation
for all the high strangeness
407
00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:51,417
on Skinwalker Ranch or maybe
408
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a virtual doorway
to the answers?
409
00:16:54,458 --> 00:16:56,917
Erik Bard, Dr. Travis Taylor.
410
00:16:56,917 --> 00:16:59,333
You're talking about
the idea of all of this
411
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originating from an elsewhere
412
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or a point of origin
that is, if you will,
413
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outside of our space.
414
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That may be something's coming
through as we've been told,
415
00:17:07,292 --> 00:17:11,000
through portals, wormholes,
that kind of thing.
416
00:17:11,167 --> 00:17:13,417
Travis and I share a fascination
with the Indigenous record
417
00:17:13,542 --> 00:17:16,292
about things
affecting space and time,
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00:17:16,458 --> 00:17:18,042
potentially in the same ways
that we're observing today
419
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with our exquisitely
sensitive instruments.
420
00:17:20,750 --> 00:17:22,875
In fact, we've found evidence
421
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:25,958
that could possibly
support the idea.
422
00:17:26,167 --> 00:17:28,875
I'm not saying we have
the-the smoking gun yet,
423
00:17:29,083 --> 00:17:32,917
but we actually have
lidar data that vanished.
424
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And the way a lidar works, it's
a laser with a spinning mirror,
425
00:17:35,875 --> 00:17:39,875
so it's sending laser beams out
all over in a hemisphere.
426
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And when the lidar beam
went to a certain spot
427
00:17:43,875 --> 00:17:45,875
here on the ranch
near the triangle,
428
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the data vanished,
429
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like it went somewhere else,
through a doorway
430
00:17:49,542 --> 00:17:52,167
-and it didn't come back.
-Wow.
431
00:17:52,375 --> 00:17:55,417
Uh, so, so, is this just
432
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missing data or are-- do we find
the data somewhere else?
433
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-Where it wouldn't normally be
expected to be found...
-ROYSTON: The only data we see
434
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in this area,
you know, it's pretty dense.
435
00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:09,167
So you go from, like,
really dense scan to nothing.
436
00:18:09,375 --> 00:18:10,042
Wow.
437
00:18:10,208 --> 00:18:12,458
It's like it absorbed
438
00:18:12,583 --> 00:18:13,917
the lidar lasers.
439
00:18:14,083 --> 00:18:15,333
TRAVIS:
Can you zoom way out?
440
00:18:17,375 --> 00:18:18,375
Whoa.
441
00:18:18,542 --> 00:18:19,917
-ERIK: Look at that.
-That's interesting.
442
00:18:20,083 --> 00:18:21,042
ERIK:
Yeah.
443
00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:24,167
What is that red circle?
444
00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:27,083
It's a, it's a shadow
of something.
445
00:18:27,250 --> 00:18:28,833
What did--
what are we looking at?
446
00:18:29,042 --> 00:18:30,833
-THOMAS: Black hole? (chuckles)
-Could be--
447
00:18:31,042 --> 00:18:32,167
-well, that could be...
-I mean...
448
00:18:32,375 --> 00:18:34,375
...a shadow of a wormhole.
449
00:18:37,458 --> 00:18:41,208
We have that data
repeated now multiple times.
450
00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:43,458
And we have even more
significant data
451
00:18:43,583 --> 00:18:46,375
that we found
this summer that...
452
00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:49,167
w-we can't explain,
'cause here's the problem.
453
00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:51,250
Our current understanding
of physics
454
00:18:51,375 --> 00:18:54,250
is that if there were
a traversable wormhole,
455
00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:57,167
some sort of portal or doorway,
456
00:18:57,375 --> 00:18:59,667
it would've ripped us apart,
being that close to it.
457
00:18:59,875 --> 00:19:02,250
It would've destroyed
a big chunk of the planet,
458
00:19:02,375 --> 00:19:03,958
-if not the whole planet.
-Right.
459
00:19:04,083 --> 00:19:07,250
So, we need to understand
physics better.
460
00:19:07,417 --> 00:19:10,417
If this truly is some sort of
magic portal or doorway,
461
00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,292
it's gonna be within
the laws of physics.
462
00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:16,000
Mm. How about when GPS data,
for example,
463
00:19:16,167 --> 00:19:18,833
goes wonky
when it shows you being...
464
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underground, wildly off
what you think it would be?
465
00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:24,417
What-- could that fit
into this theory?
466
00:19:24,583 --> 00:19:26,292
-Absolutely.
-Absolutely does.
467
00:19:26,458 --> 00:19:28,917
You know, GPS is
really quite straightforward.
468
00:19:29,083 --> 00:19:31,125
We've got these constellations
469
00:19:31,292 --> 00:19:32,750
of satellites
in middle Earth orbit
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broadcasting signals
down to receivers at our level.
471
00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:37,583
-Right.
-And if we plant receivers
472
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at fixed locations
473
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on the property
and we see them undergoing
474
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some kind of phantom movement,
475
00:19:42,792 --> 00:19:44,792
it invites speculation
as to what could be
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in that space between
the satellites and the ground
477
00:19:48,167 --> 00:19:51,333
that is warping space and time.
478
00:19:51,542 --> 00:19:53,333
Well, the one thing
I would add to it
479
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is that we continue
to make measurements
480
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that suggest
there's something real
481
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to these ancient legends
and myths.
482
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And we are going to continue
to make measurements,
483
00:20:04,625 --> 00:20:07,667
and we don't know right now
if this is a portal,
484
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is it going to somewhere else
or some when else?
485
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:14,792
Mm. (chuckles)
486
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,375
Wow. Amazing.
487
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,792
I just want to thank you guys,
and thank you on behalf of fans,
488
00:20:20,958 --> 00:20:22,417
'cause I hear from people
that say, "I've learned so much
489
00:20:22,583 --> 00:20:24,167
about science,"
which is very exciting.
490
00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:26,000
And I think you two
491
00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:27,792
are a credit
to the scientific community
492
00:20:27,958 --> 00:20:30,167
because of your open-mindedness
to this topic.
493
00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:31,917
-Thank you.
-Thank you.
494
00:20:32,083 --> 00:20:34,583
-Keep going.
-We will.
495
00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:39,833
So, are we getting closer to
the answers on Skinwalker Ranch?
496
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,375
Only time will tell.
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Stay tuned
as this team continues
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to poke that hornet's nest
with incredible operations.
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Thank you so much for watching,
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and as always,
have a great night.
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