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Yeah, I'm up against
something pretty hard right now.
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What is that?
It definitely looks metallic.
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MATTY:
Of all the hot spots
for high strangeness
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on Skinwalker Ranch...
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ERIK:
This is not something
I would've expected
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to encounter
hundreds of feet into the mesa.
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Wow, look at all the metal.
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MATTY:
...there is one,
that by its very nature...
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What is that thing
that flew into the mesa? Wow!
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MATTY:
...is the hardest
for the team to investigate.
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ERIK:
What the hell
are we looking at here?
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TRAVIS:
Whatever this is
is as tall as the mesa.
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MATTY:
So, tonight,
I'm meeting with them
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to get a deep, insider's take...
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Now we realize we've really
got something special here.
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MATTY:
...on just what...
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What we found
was absolutely amazing.
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MATTY:
...lies buried
in the rocky mesa.
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It could be something incredibly
important to mankind.
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That's unbelievably fascinating.
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MATTY: It's great to be
back on Skinwalker Ranch,
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in the command center, no less.
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We all watch you
do so much here.
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This is where
we bring it all together,
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put it on the table,
or on the screen,
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and try to make sense out of
what is going on here.
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-Right.
-Yeah, it's-it's incredible
to watch you guys work here.
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And if you could come up
with one word
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to define what you have
discovered in season five,
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what would that word be?
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Validating.
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Mmm! Excellent.
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-Astounding.
-(chuckles)
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-I would say groundbreaking.
-MATTY: Wow.
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Look at that scapula!
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That is a tooth
that bit all the way through.
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It would have to be
larger than a wolf.
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That is a dire wolf,
which is an extinct species.
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Watch what happens here.
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-TRAVIS: Wow.
-ERIK: We have several objects
moving in unison.
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TRAVIS:
Look how fast they're moving.
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That's not natural.
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They got them coming
down right on top of the tents.
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-Yeah, they're coming
at the tents.
-(drone crashes)
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(bleep)
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THOMAS:
Heads up, they're coming down!
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PRESTON:
Everybody stay back!
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Well, all those words
sum up what you have found
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and I'm here tonight to
really drill down on the mesa.
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I'd like to go back if we could,
and talk about its genesis
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in your investigation
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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Well, you know, we inherited
a-a legend
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or a narrative of there
being underground bases
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or a vast tunnel system
being under the ranch.
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I have to say,
from my very first experience
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of coming out here
on the property,
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the first indication of anything
strange that I observed
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was on top of that mesa.
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We saw regions of the mesa
possibly illuminating.
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And in the context
of something technological,
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potentially under the ranch,
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this all starts to become
very interesting.
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We had a guard
from the Bigelow era
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that had indicated
he'd found a spot
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that could have been
a caved-in entrance to a cave.
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-You mean the visit
by Chris Bartel?
-Yes.
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Hey, I found what looks like
to be a cavern.
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CHRIS: Let me take a look.
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Oh, yeah.
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I'm pretty sure this is it.
Or it looks like it.
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THOMAS:
You can tell that at one time
it was a lot larger.
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And it's collapsed
down in on itself.
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CHRIS:
You can tell
that this whole area--
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it looks like a sunken-in area.
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-THOMAS: Like it was
all caved in. Yeah.
-CHRIS: Yeah.
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So strange.
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After Chris Bartel
showed us the spot,
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we started to explore
the area around it
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to see if we could
find any clues
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that might lead to more answers.
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And we did find
some pretty deep holes
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that we couldn't see
the bottom to.
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And we determined
that we'd take some smoke bombs
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and drop 'em down these holes
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and see if we could see smoke
coming up anywhere else.
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Maybe clues
into where these holes
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are going into the mesa.
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Thomas and I have found
a couple of holes up here.
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I think we're gonna throw our,
uh, smoke grenades in there.
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So, keep an eye out,
see if you see it
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coming out
anywhere on the mesa.
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Copy that. Thanks.
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Right here.
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TRAVIS:
It goes as far
as you can see down.
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Let it get smoking good.
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Oh, that's good.
Orange smoke, orange smoke!
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Oh, I'm gonna step back.
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Yeah, definitely we got smoke.
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PETE:
A little bit. Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
There should be a lot
more smoke coming out.
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THOMAS:
Actually, look, look,
it's getting sucked in.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, the smoke's going down!
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THOMAS:
Look, it's completely gone.
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We should be seeing smoke
everywhere, there's no smoke.
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(laughing):
There's nothing here.
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-Yeah.
-No smoke?
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BRYANT:
I don't see anything.
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TRAVIS:
Where did it go?
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There's a opening
underneath the mesa out there.
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The interesting thing is
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when I dropped
the smoke bomb in,
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the smoke started to come out
and then almost instantly,
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as if someone
turned on a vacuum,
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it sucked all the way down,
and-and disappeared.
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And we repeated that
multiple times.
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-Sure did.
-Yeah.
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Yep. And then that led
to the exercise of,
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okay, well if there's
truly a void in there,
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-can we get
a camera down there?
-Right.
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-The hole's right here.
-Okay.
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So we got one of these
snake cameras, actually...
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I think we're live.
I'm gonna hit record.
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...and we did get some
really interesting footage.
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A good 30 feet
down in the mesa...
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What the hell is that?
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BRYANT: ...we saw some metallic
object down in there
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that absolutely
shouldn't be there.
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-Nope.
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The rocky mesa
on Skinwalker Ranch
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has been shrouded in mystery
and rumor for years,
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but when this team
literally looked into it,
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what they found
in this imposing feature
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might just be out of this world.
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Gentlemen, let's go back
to the very first
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drill operation you did
at the mesa and how it went.
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Our idea was to bring
in this horizontal drill
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and actually drill into the mesa
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where we approximated
this cave to be.
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Right.
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THOMAS: We brought out a driller
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who is probably one of the top
drillers of the United States.
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So, he's had a lot of experience
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drilling through landscapes that
are almost identical to this.
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And he gets into the mesa
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and immediately encounters
something that will not let
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his directional drill bit
start to turn upwards.
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I'm up against something
pretty hard right now.
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So, we're coming up about
11 inches every ten feet.
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It was-it was
directing you downward
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and now you're still on it,
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but it's allowing
you to go upwards?
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-Right.
-ERIK: So, that-that
tells us something
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about whatever
this impenetrable thing is.
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So, it sounds like
you're describing kind of a V.
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May not even be a V,
it could even be...
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maybe a dome.
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-We're looking for a void.
-Right.
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We weren't looking
for anything else.
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And he hit something hard,
shaped like a dome,
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-that would not allow
his drill to turn up.
-That's incredible.
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And of course, we hit
the-the metallic material
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-that appears in flakes.
-Yeah.
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Those drilling spoils...
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THOMAS: Okay.
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-What is that?
-what are you seeing?
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Oh, my.
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-THOMAS: It's brittle.
-ERIK: This is really thin.
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I wondered if it was, like,
metal flakes or something.
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That's exactly
the same impression I got.
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So, was it a fact
of that drill bit knocking
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pieces off of whatever
this object is?
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We don't know,
but it does correlate
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in the timing as to when
the driller hit something
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that was hard enough
that it drove his drill bit down
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and he could not
turn it to go up.
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THOMAS:
180 feet in is where
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we first started
bringing those spoils up.
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How'd they get there?
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-That's the question.
-ERIK: Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, Matty. We took those
spoils to the University of Utah
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to have analysis done on them.
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And what we found
was absolutely amazing.
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Okay.
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Mm-hmm.
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The way I understand it, there
was also trace elements of, uh,
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europium and tellurium
in the sample?
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Okay.
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This material was manufactured,
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as opposed to
a natural occurrence?
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Yeah.
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ERIK: Well, That's interesting.
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That's actually
very interesting.
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When you get
scientific corroboration
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like that from a lab,
that it is something strange...
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Historically, do we know
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of any space shuttles
parked in the mesa? Anyone?
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Uh... not that I know of.
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-No.
-TRAVIS: How did it
get in there?
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That's the big thing.
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How did that material
get into the mesa
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and to what purpose?
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And that set you up
for a second drill attempt.
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Literally and figuratively,
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you guys were looking
for a breakthrough.
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First, we're looking
for a tunnel.
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The second time, we were looking
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for a metal object
inside that mesa.
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And so we actually
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did the GPR on top of the mesa
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and discovered that, in fact,
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there was some type of anomaly.
So, whatever it was
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that we were getting
pushed down by, maybe we could
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-come in and catch it above.
-Right.
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And this second one, the goal
was to go into the mesa
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and as soon as he got
into the mesa,
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his instructions were
to turn that bit and go up.
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TRAVIS:
We set up our spectrum analyzers
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and we're watching the frequency
that they were using
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on their drill bit beacon.
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And when they hit whatever
they hit inside there-- wow.
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It changed the signal
and rebroadcast it.
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What's going on, Thomas?
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The drill has encountered
a hard object
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that it cannot penetrate.
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Wow.
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Whoa, what is that?
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Hey, Thomas.
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Tell Erik that
when the drill bit hit
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whatever you guys hit
up at the top,
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that the 33 megahertz signal
coming from the drill bit
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amplified and spread out
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all around it like something
was rebroadcasting it.
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So, let me just
put this another way.
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It sounds to me
like you're saying that
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y-your drill hit the object
and every time
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you hit the object, it...
it was responding.
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That's one interpretation.
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That is one way
to look at it, sure.
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And that drill bit
was not damaged.
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And you're sitting
there grinding that bit
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against some
immovable something.
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Right.
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-It's-it's weird.
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Does the mesa
on Skinwalker Ranch
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contain the ultimate answers
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to the bizarre phenomena
that happens on the property?
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Thus far, your efforts in
the mesa have been incredible.
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Talk to me about
your approach this season.
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This time we got much more
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of that ground-penetrating
radar data that
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gives us a partial
three-dimensional image
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of something quite large.
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Something that runs quite deep.
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TRAVIS: You've probably seen
this before, where they take
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-the ballistic jelly.
-Yes.
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And they'll fire a bullet at it.
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And it shatters and creates
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-a shrapnel field
inside the jelly.
-MATTY: Yes.
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TRAVIS: That's exactly what
this three-dimensional,
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ground-penetrating radar image
looks like in the mesa.
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It's almost
as if something had come...
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down really fast
and hits the mesa,
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goes into it,
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gets stuck in there and creates
a debris field on the inside.
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Something that happens
to be saucer-shaped.
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Something that happens to be
saucer-shaped.
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MATTY:
I know with your science minds
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and everyone here
is very rational,
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this could be natural.
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We're not gonna throw
that possible solution out.
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But the ground-penetrating
radar expert told us
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that this is not a naturally
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occurring fissure
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or object
that he's ever seen before.
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And you can't get away
from the fact
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that we pulled metal
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-out of the mesa.
-That's a great point.
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So, Matty,
the emphasis has shifted.
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You know, whereas before we were
trying to drill into something.
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-Right.
-Now we realize we've really
got something special.
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-Yeah, yeah.
-ERIK: Clearly, this is
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something not to be destroyed
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if we can avoid it,
but to be studied.
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So to study whatever this is
in the mesa,
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we drill boreholes that
go right up beside it--
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not into it, but beside it--
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so that we can
insert instruments
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that are side-looking
that may give us
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a more complete picture
of what it is
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we're dealing with in the mesa.
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And almost right off the bat,
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when you guys
begin this operation,
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things get weird again.
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Absolutely.
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TRAVIS: What's going on?
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So we keep losing communication
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with our transmitter.
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-TRAVIS: Wow!
-THOMAS: We start having
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equipment failures.
And by that, the beacon
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that should be transmitting
the drill bit location,
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that's how we steer
this thing around.
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JARED:
When you start drilling,
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I lose all communication
with him,
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and he loses
communication, also.
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-Yeah.
-THOMAS: Quits transponding
to the receiver.
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And so that caused us to have
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to stop work and try to figure
out what's going wrong.
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And they were attributing it
to a dead battery,
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but we pulled the battery out.
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And what did you guys find?
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I put a volt meter to it,
and it was
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completely full
as if it were new.
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There was something else
that was causing them
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to lose signal between
that beacon and that receiver.
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And things got
even more shocking.
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I mean,
what happened with the cow?
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We were, uh, looking
at the spectrum analyzer.
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What?
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What is that signal?
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There's a signal at 919...
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megahertz that's going
nonstop on every antenna.
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What?!
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And while we're watching it,
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we saw a strange signal
just appear, and that's
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when we all turned around
and we saw the calf.
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(cows mooing)
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KALEB:
Hey, guys, you see that?
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TRAVIS:
Look at this cow, guys.
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Hey, guys, look at this cow!
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ERIK:
What's going on?
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BRYANT:
It's spinning in circles.
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What the hell's wrong
with that cow?
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Literally 45 minutes or less
before that,
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these calves were coming
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toward the operation
we were doing.
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So I went over to shoo them
back to their mothers.
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I specifically looked
at this cow.
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It looked perfectly normal.
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And then, within 45 minutes,
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we see this calf just
absolutely spinning circles,
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like as if it doesn't know
where it is.
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And then, Thomas, you tell 'em
what else you witnessed.
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This calf's eyes were white,
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like almost solid white.
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As if there was
a lens or a cover over 'em.
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TRAVIS:
That's a telltale sign
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of being exposed
to microwave radiation.
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Where the calf was
running around in circles,
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all of our compasses were off.
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-North was moved off
by about 20 degrees.
-MATTY: Wow.
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That's weird.
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THOMAS:
Hey, Travis, you seeing any
elevated readings over there?
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I've got a, uh, an old-school
compass standing right here
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where that cow was
running around in circles.
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North is about, oh, I'm gonna
say 20 degrees to the east.
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THOMAS:
That's interesting.
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TRAVIS:
It was weird.
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ERIK:
And all of this is happening
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just feet away
from where we were stationed
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-during our drilling activity.
-Yes.
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But it does correlate
in the timing
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as to when the driller
hit something.
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Yeah.
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Do we have an update
on the calf?
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Yeah, we immediately removed
the calf and its mother
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from the property as soon
as the vet got done doing
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an examination, and...
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it's doing much better.
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Great.
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Could the legends
of a secret base
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or otherworldly object
buried deep in the mesa
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on Skinwalker Ranch
actually be true?
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Guys, I put the question to you.
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It sounds unbelievable,
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but given everything
we've talked about,
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but given everything
we've talked about,
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everything we've seen
in season five,
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it might not be that crazy.
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You know, we're taking the data,
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we're being led by those data.
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And the further
we progress in this work,
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the more we find seems
to align with the idea
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of something technological.
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00:17:02,042 --> 00:17:05,000
You know,
for every underground base,
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there has to be
an entryway somewhere.
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00:17:06,958 --> 00:17:08,250
-Right. Oh, right.
-Right?
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BRYANT:
Could that possibly be
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what we're tapping into
in the mesa? We don't know.
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If that's where
a base might lie,
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is this dome structure, um,
391
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what other plans for that?
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00:17:18,875 --> 00:17:21,417
Will that be in play
moving forward?
393
00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:25,333
You know, we've described, uh,
a strategy for studying that.
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00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:27,708
Uh, you know, we want to get in
as close as we can
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to whatever that structure is so
that we can insert instruments
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into the mesa
and build a more complete map
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to characterize
whatever that artifact,
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perhaps, whatever
that structure turns out to be.
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This is essentially,
like, uh, what you do
400
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when you're trying
to gather information on, say,
401
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if you're in the military
and you're trying to get
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more information, you do recon.
403
00:17:49,667 --> 00:17:51,958
-Right.
-And we're trying to get
as much information
404
00:17:52,125 --> 00:17:54,417
as we can before we make
a really big decision
405
00:17:54,542 --> 00:17:56,542
about what we're gonna do
with that object
406
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inside the mesa.
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00:17:57,708 --> 00:17:59,292
TRAVIS:
Right now,
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we really only have
a few data points here.
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00:18:02,542 --> 00:18:04,208
We have the data points
of a drill going
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under the bottom profile
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00:18:06,208 --> 00:18:08,417
of whatever this is and...
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-a drill profile going
over the top...
-Right.
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...of at least something.
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We don't know that they're
even connected because they're
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80, 90 feet apart
from each other.
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But we also have
the ground-penetrating radar
417
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that suggests
that the top profile
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looks like something
and it's so wide.
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00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:30,083
But it's hard to say from that
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if it's a solid object that goes
all the way to the bottom.
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And until we can look
through this, this pathway,
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now that
we're drilling alongside,
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and-and put instruments
side-looking,
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as Erik's talked about,
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only then will we be
able to really start
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looking at what this thing
might actually be.
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00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:49,375
BRYANT:
And I really appreciate
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00:18:49,542 --> 00:18:52,500
the approach that
Erik and Travis and the team
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00:18:52,667 --> 00:18:54,708
has taken of...
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00:18:54,917 --> 00:18:57,833
really doing it very carefully
431
00:18:58,042 --> 00:19:00,125
with the biopsy type
of approach.
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00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:02,167
You know, we've heard
so many people just say,
433
00:19:02,292 --> 00:19:04,083
"Well, why don't you
just blow the mesa up,
434
00:19:04,208 --> 00:19:06,167
or just go in there
and demolish it?"
435
00:19:06,333 --> 00:19:08,458
Well, first off,
we don't know what's in there.
436
00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:10,333
-Right.
-It could be something
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incredibly valuable or
incredibly important to mankind.
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00:19:13,583 --> 00:19:16,583
And by demolishing it,
you could ruin whatever's there.
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00:19:16,708 --> 00:19:19,708
I'll tell you,
our intent obviously is
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to find out as much as we can.
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00:19:21,625 --> 00:19:25,750
But whether the ranch lets us
or not is another question.
442
00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:29,750
Our drilling exercises
have proven over and over
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00:19:29,917 --> 00:19:32,583
unforeseen obstacles
that keep us
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00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:34,333
from achieving what it is
that we're wanting to do.
445
00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:37,333
It's amazing how many
roadblocks are
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00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,500
constantly being
thrown in our way
447
00:19:39,708 --> 00:19:41,917
in our efforts
to find more information.
448
00:19:42,042 --> 00:19:43,500
But I can tell you, Matty,
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00:19:43,708 --> 00:19:45,958
there's a lot in store,
and I can't wait for you
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00:19:46,125 --> 00:19:47,917
to see what else we find
451
00:19:48,083 --> 00:19:49,708
-as we're moving forward
on this.
-ERIK: Yeah.
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00:19:49,875 --> 00:19:53,583
Well, we can't wait to see
what you guys discover.
453
00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:56,000
Thank you so much for letting
us in the command center.
454
00:19:56,208 --> 00:19:57,500
It's been very exciting.
455
00:19:57,708 --> 00:19:59,750
-Thank you, man.
-Thanks for joining us.
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00:19:59,917 --> 00:20:02,292
Is the mesa simply testing
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00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:04,000
our understanding of nature,
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00:20:04,167 --> 00:20:06,125
or will it ultimately change
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00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:08,833
our understanding
of the nature of our world?
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00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,500
Maybe the next episode
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00:20:10,667 --> 00:20:12,625
of The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch
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will reveal that and more.
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00:20:14,667 --> 00:20:16,958
Thank you so much for watching
and have a great night.
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