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now we're reviewing the really

interesting one the Intel 13600k this is

a new CPU it's about 330 or so and the

price point puts it in direct

competition with amd's R5 7600x which we

already said starts very high for Price

Point especially when considering the

total platform cost with the motherboard

and ddr5 is now being required on am5

whereas Intel tactically you could still

run it with ddr4 if you wanted to so

this one's going to be a really

interesting matchup between AMD and

Intel at the mid-range let's get started

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today is going to be about that platform

cost because CPU to CPU there's only

about 20 or 30 difference between the R5

7600x which weren't particularly fond of

for its price and the 13600k however

there have already been rumors for

probably over a month now that AMD is

thinking about dropping its prices for

the ryzen 7000 series CPUs and if it

decides to do so it's probably in the

face of competition from Intel here so

it's competition sorting itself out once

again although we'll see if it takes

until CES to drop those prices but for

today we're reviewing based on the

prices that exist currently at the time

of filming this one day before launch of

the 13th gen CPUs and we need to give

some specs for a baseline of what this

thing is the 13600k has six performance

cores and eight efficient cores that's

trimmed down from the 13900ks 8 and 16

respectively and remember smt or hyper

threading is not available on the

e-course the last gen 12600k had six P

cores as well but only four e-corps so

that's a bump in the new cpu's favor the

base TDP is 125 watts for this one

that's the same as the rest of the

Raptor like line up so far but Max the

one that actually matters 181 Watts so

that's a lot lower than the 3900 case

253 watt TDP just your regular reminder

here TDP doesn't translate directly to

power consumption it's normally pretty

close but uh pl1 and pl2 were how the

power consumption numbers differed in

the past where you had Tau or a boost in

window measured in less than a minute 52

56 seconds or so somewhere in that range

and that would be where you'd have the

highest power draw and once that died

off boost fell down and the frequency

stabilized then it was down to the lower

number that was commonly in 95 Watts or

125 or whatever it may have been now

though they just boost indefinitely and

hold that higher number and of course

that actual measured power consumption

is influenced by the motherboard by Auto

V core and all that stuff now with

raptor Lake you can still use ddr4

motherboards you can find them online

everywhere and these are cheaper than

ddr5 versions and that means that

there's a second Factor here which is

motherboard cost z790 is part of this

launch there's no real reason why though

you would need to use a z790 board over

z690 or even b660 for basic

functionality and stock performance even

for extreme overclocking we're going to

be working with a z690 board when we

bring it to liquid nitrogen which should

tell you that they're fine so b660 or

z690 they're both still very much alive

and as long as it gets bios update to

support the new CPUs you'll be able to

use it the same goes for the 5800x 3D

where that's a competitive chip it's

somewhere in the 400 range now and you

can use b450 if you want x470 b550

boards without issue and again assuming

the bio supports it b650 just became

available for use with ryzen 7000 it

doesn't work with a 58x3d and while

cheaper than x670 it can't bring the

total cost low enough to match other

budget optimized combinations we did

some really quick work of just putting

together a table with some pricing

information on it for different

combinations of ram motherboard and CPU

so we're calling that total platform

cost this is not the most scientific or

deepest dive pricing table you could

make we didn't use price ripping and

scraping tools we basically went through

and we sorted by Boards we thought were

reasonable matched with ram we thought

was pretty comparable between all the

combinations and opted for the cheapest

reasonable price to get into one of

these platforms so in other words it's

you can probably do it cheaper but this

is what we thought made sense and this

table gives you an idea for it where

with a 13600k b660 16 gig of memory at

ddr4 uh you're at 475 bucks it is slower

memory though and ddr5 is starting to

show benefit but if you really need to

chop costs somewhere and maybe you care

more about GPU performance and want to

spend your money there this is an option

32 gigabytes of course brings it up a

bit a 58x3d is also relatively

competitive with the 13600k with ddr4

option but you look at the 7600x and the

pricing gets blown out of the water and

to be clear that 600 option that we

showed for the 7600x that's with pretty

bad memory like it'll actually hurt the

performance so you're closer to the 650

plus mark for a 7600x platform okay

enough of the basics let's get into some

benchmarking look at Power production

tests gaming all that stuff and keep in

mind that the 13600k is most interesting

for it's actually really close to Max

performance it can get with the much

better power envelope than the 13900k

let's start with power consumption

because this is one of the more

interesting aspects of the 13600k in an

awkward workload and blender we measure

the power at the EPS 12 volt cables this

isolates the results to basically just

the CPU and doesn't include total system

draw Intel's 13600k pulled 161 Watts

which is 40 Watts more than we saw in

the last generation I5 12600k and

functionally the same as the 12 700k and

that one had two more P cores but four

fewer e cores than the 13-6 compared to

the 13 900ks insane 295 Watts the 13600k

looks pretty good but it's a creep

upwards in power consumption for an i5

the new I5 Drew 38 more power than the

six core 7600x and 49 more power than

the 8 core 5800x 3D going with those AMD

CPUs would give you more overall power

budget and your power supply to dedicate

to other parts like gpus or accelerators

this absolute power draw is really only

part of the equation when it comes to

production loads with efficiency being

the other aspect the 13600k pulled 30

watts in our single Core Power testing

tied exactly with the 7600x and the

12600k the I9 class 12900k and 3900k

both pull significantly more power

despite this being a single core

workload and that's due to sustaining

higher boost and TVB frequencies for all

workloads in the I9 and next before we

get to games is power efficiency

calculated as a simple Watt hours

equation we're judging how much energy

it takes to complete an equivalent

amount of work between all these CPUs

our control is the amount of work

produced rendering this Frame and

blender and the variables are time and

power Intel's I5 13600k plotted

centrally here right alongside the i7

12700 KF it's actually a great position

compared to last generation you're next

to an i7 but it's not the chart leader

no one is approaching the 5950x and

efficiency just yet that's still the

true kin here it's certainly far better

though than the 3900k the 3900k is

plotted correctly in this one in our

previous video we had one charting error

out of the whatever 30 or something

charts one mistake where we already

detailed the correction we linked it

below if you're curious what the notes

are for it but in this setup it's all

positioned correctly in the 13600k

proves that Intel is blasting the power

on the 13 9 to really try and max out

the last few percentage points of

performance it's expected for Halo

products but for something like an i5

it's not and it's behaving better here

the 13600k ends up more efficient than

amd's R5 7600x in this one so it is

finally outpacing AMD and power

efficiency and specifically it's doing

it between the two newest gen CPUs from

AMD and from Intel at about the same

price class so in that regard Intel is

in a bit of an advantage to position

here for the I5 versus the R5 in power

efficiency okay get into the game so

most of the games we ran were with the

3090 TI there are a couple where that's

starting to become GPU bound and so for

those we re-ran with the 4090 with just

the four most immediate relevant CPUs

that we sort of pulled out of the CPU

closet and we'll be eventually re uh

running all these tests with the 4090

but this will get us started for now so

let's look at some of the games we'll

start with 39 TI numbers we'll start

with cs go at 1080p we're the 13600k

establishes itself as functionally equal

to the 12 900k and 20 faster than the 12

600k which shows good generational

improvement over Alder lake or the 12th

gen CPUs the closest current gen AMD CPU

is the ryzen 7600x barely outperforming

the 13600k for 30 less and is strictly

the cost of the CPU remember though that

the total platform cost should be taken

into account as well now lows of the

7600x and the 13600k are with an error

of each other CS go has a very wide

range for low results and that's

indicated by the bars on the chart the

13600k also falls short of the 3900k

which beats it by 15 percent that's in

an entirely different price class though

with the 139 at 600 plus dollars put

simply that means the 13600k gets 87 of

the performance of the 139 for 55

percent of the price and another way to

look at this would be that you could get

a 13 600k with 32 gigabytes of ddr4 and

a motherboard for about 95 less than the

price of just the 3900k at 600. we'd

also like to point out the 5800x3d here

it's very popular it's competitive CPU

at 400 right now the 13600k took a

relatively small seven percent lead over

it moving to 1440p and CS go shows that

we're highly CPU bound and scaling is

intact throughout the stack we want that

kind of bind for showing the best

scaling between CPUs As you move up in

resolution or play games that rely more

on the GPU the scaling becomes less

pronounced or it's totally wiped out

like when playing games at 4K for modern

games and you become GPU bound things

are starting to look good though for the

value of the 13600k here but we need to

check out some other games that load the

CPU differently the Final Fantasy 14 end

Walker Benchmark isn't representative of

online performance necessarily but it

shows us the scaling in this game even

if the absolute numbers are a bit higher

the 13600k sits under the top spot on

the charge with an error of the 12900k

and higher than all of the ryzen 7000

CPUs the 13 6 leaves the 7600x by about

12 percent here whereas the Thirteen

nine jumps way ahead showing that we

aren't GPU bound on most or all of this

charge with a 14 lead owners of the

older Zen one Parts like the R7 1700

might want to consider an upgrade the

jump here would be noticeable but that's

not so for 12th gen owners of course gen

over gen the 12600k is getting beaten by

16 percent on the 13600k but that's

obviously not a difference we'd

recommend upgrading over if you're on

Alder Lake i-5s already and Rainbow Six

Siege the 13600k lands in the upper

section of the chart performing

similarly to all of the ryzen 7000 CPUs

and the 58x3d in average FPS with

marginally better one percent lows the

ryzen 7000 parts are hitting a hard wall

at about 607 plus or minus a bit FPS

average and that's either due to memory

behavior on the CPUs or maybe driver

overhead processing the communication

with the GPU we'd have to research it

more but Intel ceiling is split here and

a little bit higher in this one the

3900k holds a slight lead here of about

three percent but since we're talking

about over 600 FPS at this point for

average it really doesn't matter some

people will think it matters

but it doesn't maybe at a pro level but

probably still not really so the

performance difference going from 615 to

635 FPS it feels the same we're somewhat

constrained in Shadow of the Tomb Raider

we're the 13600k ties with the 12 900k

and the 7600x but comes out ahead of the

12 6K by 14 with proportionally better

lows we re-ran this test using a 40 90

as well to lift some of that ceiling and

that constraint and gain a clearer

picture of CPU performance so let's look

at that in the 4090 chart shown here the

scaling has significantly improved

clearly the top CPUs had more room to

breathe than the previous test with the

3090 TI which was a very expensive card

allowed for the 3900k was only four

percent ahead of the 13600k in the last

chart but that has now turned into a 17

Gap with the GPU constraint removed the

13900k gained 45 FPS average moving from

the 3090 TI to the 4090 but the 13600k

only against 9 FPS average likewise the

7950x have performs the 13-6 by 15

percent where the previous test it was

only ahead by about four percent back to

the 3090 TI bench our 1440p results

reinforce how dependence on Graphics

horsepower for some games can erase

differences even between this wide range

of CPUs because everything above an I3

12100f is basically capped by the GPU at

some point in the Benchmark here

switching to the 4090 the hard cap is

gone not quite no cap No Cap okay no

capping but results are significantly

freed up here the scaling at 1440p isn't

quite as strong as it was at 1080p when

using the 4090 the 3900k here is only 11

faster than the 13600k and that's down

from 17 at 1080p amd's 7900x only leads

the I5 by 3 percent and that is down

from an eight percent Advantage at 1080.

if you run Tomb Raider with 1440p for

the resolution or higher on anything

lower end than a 40 90 you will not

notice in difference between the two in

Far Cry 6 the 13600k takes second place

at 184 FPS average trailing the 3900k is

196 half PS average the 13600k has

better lows than the 13-9 on this one

and that's something we explored and

explained in our 3900k review you can

check that one out for more detail

specifically what's going on here but

we'll have another chart that helps too

the 13600k also beats all the ryzen

offerings shown here with the 7600x

getting outdone by about 12 percent here

the 58x3d is close to the 13600k and is

within standard deviation the

generational lead over the 12600k is

pretty good here it's about 20 19

specifically so 13 600k at least

generationally has a large gap but

obviously not worth making a jump from

Alder Lake here's another rerun with the

4090 still at 1080p the 3900k pulls

ahead now to take a nine percent lead

over the 13 600k and a gap between the

I5 and the 7900x and 7950x has shrunken

by a few percentage points the biggest

change we see by testing the 49 in Far

Cry 6 is actually lower and more

consistent frame times eliminating the

poor lows that we saw in the 13-9 and

the 7950x previously as for why that

happens we think this is due to

basically how the CPU is tripping over

the bottleneck previously we've seen

this in games before where as you run up

against that bottleneck or that

limitation by the GPU or whatever else

is limiting the system the frame times

can actually start to drop in their

consistency despite being maxed out for

average our final gaming task is

cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p with the 40 90.

we skipped the 3090 TI for this one the

13600k tested ahead of the 700x by nine

percent again positioning the am5 and a

disadvantaged spot for value comparisons

the 3900k also has limited value in

gaming only tasks like this one where it

only outperforms the 13600k by nine

percent the extra money saved by not

buying a 3900k could go into a better

GPU better case or maybe more storage

but there benefits and production

applications for 39 at least we'll kick

off our production section with blender

where we time the completion of a custom

GM logo render results are in minutes

lower is better here the 13600k

completed the render in 10.7 minutes

which is a 26 less time than the 12 600k

thanks to higher clocks and more e-corps

amd's relevant comparisons get buried

here with the 7600x getting led by 32

percent and the 5800x 3D getting led by

even more we used to commonly recommend

ryzen 8 and 12 core CPUs for users who

specifically mix a little bit of

production with a lot of gaming but the

13600k is stealing that Spotlight by

offering major advantages in production

where i5s previously were weaker the 12

600k for instance required 14.4 minutes

so the 13600k cuts its render Time by 26

percent generationally you'd have to

step up to a 7900x in order to gain a

significant 25 Advantage by but you'd be

paying over two hundred dollars more on

the CPU alone not even counting the

total platform cost we discussed earlier

as for the 3900k the reduction of 38

percent is at the cost of a huge hit to

efficiency as you saw earlier and it's

still not at the level of the 7950x

chromium is up next for compile testing

this provides a look at performance for

programmers or anyone who frequently

compiles code the 13600k lands near the

top of the chart when using Windows as

the Baseline operating system and this

completes the job in 54.5 minutes that's

33 less time than the 7600x and it's

again only topped by more expensive

choices like the 3900k another 34

reduction on top of the previous one

stepping up to that level would make

more sense if you make money doing this

type of thing but if you're more of a

hobbyist or you aren't on an unlimited

budget the 13600k is a more than

adequate Choice versus the 13900k AMD

7900x competes better here than it did

in Blender at least where it does plot

has of the 13600k our next test is 7-zip

file compression measured in millions of

instructions per second or mips the

13600k pose strong leads over both the

12 600k at 38 and the 7600x at 36

percent the 12900k and the 5900x flank

the 13600k on either side but both of

those are higher thread count so the I5

is punching above its weight class

specifically in that regard here moving

to decompression CPUs are generally more

spaced apart but Zen's Advantage here

wipes out some of that in relation to

the Intel parts now we see the 13600k

only 23 over the 7600x whereas just as a

reminder in the last chart it was a 36

lead so that's been reduced here the

7700x is ahead of the 13600k by seven

percent now and general placement within

the stack for the 13-6 is still

respectable it's just it's lost some of

that uh impressive game that it had in

the previous one it might make sense

still to upgrade from something like an

R7 1700 100 if you're unhappy with it

now or an older I5 like a 10 600k where

you're nearly doubling in performance

for Adobe Premier testing we use Puget

bench which creates an aggregate score

built from a set of effects filters

transforms and render playback functions

the 13600k takes the fifth spot in our

list tying with the last generation 12

700 KF the 13600k is outperforming the

7600x by 15 percent and the 5800x3d by

23 this would be a good CPU for someone

who's a game streamer maybe and cuts

down highlight videos on the side it'll

save some time in that process but it's

still mostly sort of a cheaper gaming

focused CPU cheaper obviously be

relative to the rest of the stuff

there's a clear dividing line in the

sand at the 7900x and up where core

count starts to show some advantages our

final production task for this review is

Photoshop also from the Adobe suite

where we use aggregate scoring based on

all kinds of filters and scales and

things like that this is a little more

heavily single threaded than Premiere is

but that Reliance has retained just a

lot over the years has become more

multi-threaded finally the 13600k shows

a strong value here overall placing high

in the chart and Performing identically

to a 12 900k or the 7600x the latter

being more expensive overall than the

13-6 but not keeping up in our previous

production tests wrapping up then we'll

cram as many quick numbers in here as we

can because we know a lot of you jump

forward so overall we think it's good

value for gaming it is very strong value

in production especially because the

efficiency looks good and the 3900k just

sets the the wrong tone really for the

13th gen where because the Intel is

pumping as much power into it as they

can to try and hold that top rank in the

charts desperately against AMD it makes

the whole architecture look like it's

just power hungry and inefficient that's

not actually entirely true because you

look at stuff like this CPU and suddenly

it's a lot more competitive quick

reference numbers for you just recapping

so CS go the 7600x was faster it's about

five percent ahead of the 13600k and and

Rainbow Six we saw those two CPS were

roughly tied and Far Cry 6 we saw that

the 13600k was about tied with a 58x3d

which is very powerful in that game

Final Fantasy 14 the 13600k had a 12

lead over the 7600x and in cyberpunk

2077 the 13600k was five percent faster

than a 7950x and production work the

numbers for blender were good the 13600k

was 32 faster or less time to render

than a 7600x chromium it was about 33

faster than the 76x but then you look at

Adobe Photoshop and they were closer to

tide or just about tied so this is also

the last chance for a new ddr4 build if

you want to get one at the end here or

more likely if you want to carry some

memory over from a previous build and

really cut down your cost to build a new

system uh for install this point they're

now competing in value which is not

something they've historically done so

good job to AMD for kicking and telling

the ass enough over the last last four

years to start competing in value and

not just Market on the Halo products but

AMD now is the one that's kind of out of

value they don't have anything truly low

end at the moment Intel's got the I3

1200f extremely good value for what it

does and any of these just not fighting

there so platform cost is significantly

an Intel's favor just from the quick

numbers we ran earlier and it's looking

like the 13 series it makes a strong

case for a high-end gaming machine on

just the I5 so we're back to that era of

an i5 is enough for gaming and we don't

really have a strong reason to suspect

that unlike the past where you're

talking four core four thread versus

four and eight we don't really suspect

that game engines will change that

significantly that you're going to just

have horrible performance in a couple

years or anything like that this looks

like it'll be a pretty pretty long

standing CPU for gaming performance now

as usual this doesn't make a lot of

sense as a drop-in upgrade for say like

the 12th gen you should just keep

running it the CPUs are really good as

they are you don't need a 13 series

unless it's you really hate the system

you have now in that case it might not

be the right solution anyway so that'll

wrap up this one 13600k is pretty

competitive looks far better in

efficiency than 39 uh amd's still

fighting a strong fight but it probably

does have to drop those prices a little

bit uh or get some better motherboards

out for cheaper but that's not really

fully in amd's control so heating up to

be a really interesting Market in the

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