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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,567 --> 00:00:02,667 [Greg] We've been waiting a couple of hours 2 00:00:02,667 --> 00:00:04,033 and we see a light pop up. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,367 Oh, my God. 4 00:00:07,367 --> 00:00:09,467 It wasn't like discovering something 5 00:00:09,467 --> 00:00:12,066 and, like, "Oh, wow, we're getting to see this." 6 00:00:12,066 --> 00:00:15,567 It was like, "Oh, no, what are we seeing?" 7 00:00:15,567 --> 00:00:17,867 [West] I looked off to the southwest 8 00:00:17,867 --> 00:00:21,600 and I could see this bright white light. 9 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:24,900 I was blown away. 10 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:27,233 I wanna get to the bottom of it. 11 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:30,266 When I went outside, I immediately saw 12 00:00:30,266 --> 00:00:32,500 this tubular craft. 13 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:35,266 Whatever it was, it seemed like 14 00:00:35,266 --> 00:00:36,900 it was intelligently controlled, 15 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:40,634 as if it knew it might be watched. 16 00:00:42,367 --> 00:00:43,767 [woman] I see it again. 17 00:00:43,767 --> 00:00:45,066 I see it. I see it. 18 00:00:45,066 --> 00:00:46,233 [Greg] Oh, my God. 19 00:00:46,867 --> 00:00:48,066 Holy [bleep]! 20 00:00:48,066 --> 00:00:50,867 [man 3] You've got to see this. You've got to see this. 21 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:53,166 [narrator] Around the world, people are witnessing 22 00:00:53,166 --> 00:00:57,000 and capturing unexplained phenomena everyday... 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,600 There's a feeling you get, 24 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,467 the hairs on your arms your neck kinda stand up. 25 00:01:01,467 --> 00:01:03,667 [man 4] What the [bleep] is that? 26 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:05,166 There was a lot that pointed me 27 00:01:05,166 --> 00:01:07,567 in the direction of something non-human. 28 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:09,400 [woman 2] Oh [bleep], there it goes. 29 00:01:09,667 --> 00:01:11,467 [man 4 speaking] 30 00:01:11,467 --> 00:01:14,000 [narrator] ...and they are looking for answers. 31 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,567 It left me with a lot of questions. 32 00:01:17,567 --> 00:01:19,600 [narrator] The recent release of thousands of pages 33 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,166 of declassified US Government documents, whistleblower testimony... 34 00:01:24,166 --> 00:01:26,567 [CDR. Fravor Ret.] These objects have been observed for over two weeks, 35 00:01:26,567 --> 00:01:28,700 coming down from over 80,000 feet. 36 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:32,266 [narrator] ...and shocking new evidence could hold the answer. 37 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:33,967 Can you confirm that's what it was? 38 00:01:33,967 --> 00:01:35,400 Yes, that's what it was. 39 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,066 [narrator] Now, two expert investigators will use this new information, 40 00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:43,300 and their expertise to unlock the truth. 41 00:01:44,567 --> 00:01:47,467 I'm experiencing chills over here. 42 00:01:47,467 --> 00:01:50,500 [narrator] Mitch Horowitz is an author and historian, 43 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:54,000 known for his investigative research into the unexplained... 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,800 You all have had some very mysterious experiences. 45 00:01:59,867 --> 00:02:02,000 The video is extremely compelling. 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,100 [narrator] ...and Chrissy Newton is a journalist and authority 47 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:07,967 on space, science, and the unknown. 48 00:02:07,967 --> 00:02:10,166 And we were told that this was a secret location. 49 00:02:10,166 --> 00:02:11,100 Absolutely. 50 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,000 When I looked up, I saw a UFO in the sky. 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,300 [narrator] Thousands of experiencers came forward 52 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:19,266 and submitted their personal stories 53 00:02:19,266 --> 00:02:21,166 and evidence for examination... 54 00:02:21,166 --> 00:02:24,567 These beings were so so gloriously beautiful. 55 00:02:24,567 --> 00:02:28,467 [narrator] ...hoping to finally separate fact from fiction. 56 00:02:28,467 --> 00:02:31,600 [Mitch] Based on everything that you've brought to the table... 57 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:34,934 you witnessed a UFO. 58 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:59,367 I am excited for us to be talking about Area 51 and UFO lore, 59 00:02:59,367 --> 00:03:00,867 that's King Arthur's Court, 60 00:03:00,867 --> 00:03:02,266 and we're about to go way back. 61 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:04,100 Heading down the road of 1992-- 62 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:06,100 -Gregory, how are you? Welcome. Mitch. -Hi. Hi. 63 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:07,467 -[Chrissy] Hi. -Please sit down. 64 00:03:07,467 --> 00:03:08,467 -[Greg] Hi. -Nice to meet you. 65 00:03:08,467 --> 00:03:09,867 Nice to meet you, too. 66 00:03:09,867 --> 00:03:12,000 -Thanks for being here. -Thanks for having me. 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,667 -[Mitch] Absolutely a pleasure. -Absolutely, yeah. 68 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:15,967 You are one of the trailblazers 69 00:03:15,967 --> 00:03:20,500 of what is one of the number one UFO hot spots 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,900 of the 21st century. 71 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:24,767 -Yeah. -[Mitch] That's remarkable. 72 00:03:24,767 --> 00:03:26,667 Well, first and foremost, 73 00:03:26,667 --> 00:03:29,266 we wanna ask you to tell us your story, 74 00:03:29,266 --> 00:03:33,333 where you were, when it was, and what happened. 75 00:03:36,066 --> 00:03:38,133 [Greg] My name is Greg Ayers, 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,634 and I think that I saw a UFO at Area 51. 77 00:03:46,667 --> 00:03:50,934 This was in the late spring of 1992. 78 00:03:52,066 --> 00:03:54,700 I was living in San Francisco at the time, 79 00:03:54,700 --> 00:04:01,400 and my ex was very deep into conspiracy theories. 80 00:04:03,367 --> 00:04:07,300 Area 51 had been getting some unwanted attention. 81 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:10,467 The US Government's infamous Area 51 in the Nevada desert 82 00:04:10,467 --> 00:04:13,100 has been cloaked in conspiracy theories for years, 83 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:16,066 and recently, President Clinton reclassified 84 00:04:16,066 --> 00:04:21,100 the security status for this top secret clandestine compound. 85 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:23,767 [reporter 2] The spokesperson for the US Department of Energy, 86 00:04:23,767 --> 00:04:28,800 who holds jurisdiction over the Nevada test site, had no comment on UFOs. 87 00:04:29,967 --> 00:04:31,400 [reporter 3] Las Vegas Police report 88 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,367 quite a few calls just last night 89 00:04:33,367 --> 00:04:37,066 from people who saw strange lights in the skies northwest of the city. 90 00:04:37,066 --> 00:04:40,800 It's top secret military base called Area 51. 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,400 Witnesses say the object was like a pyramid 92 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,000 or a V-shaped wedge with pulsating yellow lights. 93 00:04:48,066 --> 00:04:52,000 An ex-employee from Area 51, this guy named Bob Lazar, 94 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,300 started giving interviews 95 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:57,400 with a local Las Vegas news station. 96 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,000 He was purporting that he was hired 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,567 to reverse engineer UFO technology 98 00:05:06,567 --> 00:05:08,967 that the US Government had acquired 99 00:05:08,967 --> 00:05:12,300 through actual alien encounters. 100 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:14,400 Real obvious what was in the hangar. 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,600 You could see about three quarters of the edge of the craft. 102 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:19,867 It was a typical flying saucer. 103 00:05:19,867 --> 00:05:22,233 Human hands did not put this together. 104 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:26,967 [reporter 1] Lazar brought a group of friends to the edge of the facility, 105 00:05:26,967 --> 00:05:29,967 where they videotaped the so-called UFO 106 00:05:29,967 --> 00:05:33,166 on what Lazar says was a test flight. 107 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:35,800 [man 1] Man, it is really bright. Look at it. Look at it. 108 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,867 I believe beyond any shadow of a doubt 109 00:05:37,867 --> 00:05:40,700 uh, that, "Yes, these are alien spacecraft." 110 00:05:40,700 --> 00:05:43,066 [Greg] Just the fact that he went on air 111 00:05:43,066 --> 00:05:44,567 and revealed these things 112 00:05:44,567 --> 00:05:46,700 really stirred up a lot of interest. 113 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,867 And so my ex decided 114 00:05:52,867 --> 00:05:57,900 that we were going to make a trip to Area 51. 115 00:06:00,266 --> 00:06:05,033 My ex had some directions that he had gotten 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,667 and we were going to look for this black mailbox 117 00:06:08,667 --> 00:06:10,300 at the end of a entrance way 118 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:13,800 into the military compound of Area 51. 119 00:06:16,567 --> 00:06:21,133 Miraculously, we find this black mailbox at the end of this entryway. 120 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:30,000 We brought our video cameras 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,266 because we were determined 122 00:06:32,266 --> 00:06:35,667 to catch some kind of evidence. 123 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:38,934 We've been waiting a couple of hours and we see a light pop up. 124 00:06:41,166 --> 00:06:42,700 Pops up over the ridge. 125 00:06:47,367 --> 00:06:51,800 It is a yellowish orange glowing light. 126 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:54,400 I was recording, 127 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,000 then the light just sort of hovered there. 128 00:06:57,266 --> 00:06:58,567 [bleep] 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,867 Then that light is joined by some more lights. 130 00:07:03,867 --> 00:07:06,800 Oh, my God. Holy [bleep]! 131 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,100 When I zoom in on my camera, you've got to see it. 132 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:16,166 Then they started tracing the top of the mountain ridge, 133 00:07:16,166 --> 00:07:18,100 but at an incredible speed, 134 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,533 and then disappeared. 135 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:27,867 Definitely way faster than you see an airplane fly, 136 00:07:27,867 --> 00:07:29,100 and it was not a helicopter. 137 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,600 It was something that we couldn't identify. 138 00:07:32,367 --> 00:07:34,667 I'm totally getting footage of this. 139 00:07:34,667 --> 00:07:37,400 The whole thing just seemed kind of creepy. 140 00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:39,300 Oh, my God. 141 00:07:39,867 --> 00:07:42,000 It wasn't like discovering something 142 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,500 and, like, "Oh, wow, we're getting to see this." 143 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:47,400 It was like, "Oh, no, what are we seeing?" 144 00:07:50,667 --> 00:07:54,166 I got scared, emotionally overwhelmed, 145 00:07:54,166 --> 00:07:57,333 and I put the video camera down on the ground. 146 00:07:59,367 --> 00:08:01,300 Then everything just went dark. 147 00:08:06,467 --> 00:08:09,600 The next morning, I was so nervous about it 148 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,100 and it really seemed like we were doing something very dangerous. 149 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:16,900 Felt like we were violating the law. 150 00:08:16,900 --> 00:08:19,700 Well, I know we were... [chuckling] ...violating the law, 151 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:21,867 and so I took the tape 152 00:08:21,867 --> 00:08:23,800 and I brought it back to my house, 153 00:08:24,767 --> 00:08:26,000 where it just sat... 154 00:08:27,467 --> 00:08:29,500 for quite a long time. 155 00:08:34,767 --> 00:08:39,600 You've brought to the table your own experience, account. 156 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,967 You have provided really extraordinary evidence. 157 00:08:44,967 --> 00:08:47,567 One of the things that is so exciting 158 00:08:47,567 --> 00:08:53,767 is that you have extremely rare vintage video evidence 159 00:08:53,767 --> 00:08:59,967 going back to the VHS era of 1992, 160 00:08:59,967 --> 00:09:05,133 pre X-Files, pre 21st century contemporary UFO studies. 161 00:09:06,767 --> 00:09:09,667 -What you captured... -[Greg] Mm-hmm. 162 00:09:09,667 --> 00:09:14,000 ...represents some of the first civilian footage 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,767 that has ever been taken, 164 00:09:15,767 --> 00:09:19,200 ever been made publicly available for the first time, 165 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,000 thanks to your efforts, 166 00:09:21,767 --> 00:09:24,500 and that's profoundly exciting in and of itself. 167 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:31,600 [narrator] Gregory submitted a 47-second-long video 168 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,634 that he recorded in 1992 inside the Area 51 base. 169 00:09:38,767 --> 00:09:40,767 This is the first time he has ever shared 170 00:09:40,767 --> 00:09:42,400 the images from that night. 171 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,166 -My question to you is... -Mm-hmm. 172 00:09:47,166 --> 00:09:50,600 ...why did you keep it private until now? 173 00:09:55,367 --> 00:09:57,100 [Mitch] Based on all of this 174 00:09:57,100 --> 00:10:01,133 and the unanswered questions that exist, 175 00:10:02,266 --> 00:10:03,500 I would have to say... 176 00:10:06,367 --> 00:10:07,467 [West] It was probably up in the sky 177 00:10:07,467 --> 00:10:09,266 for a good two or three seconds 178 00:10:09,266 --> 00:10:11,800 before I got my camera out and started to record. 179 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:15,600 Oh, my God, I'm actually seeing something. 180 00:10:16,266 --> 00:10:17,400 This is happening. 181 00:10:23,367 --> 00:10:26,934 My ex decided that we were going 182 00:10:26,934 --> 00:10:30,200 to make a trip to Area 51. 183 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:32,734 We brought our video cameras 184 00:10:32,734 --> 00:10:35,100 because we were determined 185 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:38,066 to catch some kind of evidence. 186 00:10:38,066 --> 00:10:41,233 We've been waiting a couple of hours and we see a light pop up. 187 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:45,000 Then that light is joined by some more lights. 188 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,133 Oh, my God. 189 00:10:46,767 --> 00:10:47,734 Holy [bleep]! 190 00:10:49,066 --> 00:10:51,800 The whole thing just seemed kind of creepy. 191 00:10:52,266 --> 00:10:53,734 Oh, my God. 192 00:10:56,300 --> 00:11:01,266 You've brought to the table your own experience, account. 193 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:06,500 You have provided really extraordinary evidence 194 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:09,000 going back to an earlier generation. 195 00:11:10,767 --> 00:11:12,400 -My question to you is... -Mm-hmm. 196 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,867 ...why did you keep it private until now? 197 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,266 Back then, 198 00:11:18,266 --> 00:11:19,667 I maybe didn't share it so much 199 00:11:19,667 --> 00:11:22,000 because it sounded crazy... 200 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,767 -Mm-hmm. -...and this just seemed to be 201 00:11:26,767 --> 00:11:30,166 the right time to tell this story. 202 00:11:30,166 --> 00:11:33,000 What do you hope to gain from this exchange? 203 00:11:33,667 --> 00:11:35,500 This happened early in '92. 204 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:37,266 There was no Internet. 205 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:42,266 Doing research was literally us getting in the car and driving there, 206 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:46,200 and it would be amazing to get some insights. 207 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,867 Chrissy has teamed with researchers 208 00:11:50,867 --> 00:11:53,400 to study the video evidence... 209 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,200 -Amazing. -...that you provided, 210 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,934 and she will be stepping up with some insights. 211 00:11:58,934 --> 00:12:02,367 We'll do our very best to provide you with what we can. 212 00:12:02,367 --> 00:12:03,834 Some answers. 213 00:12:03,834 --> 00:12:05,634 -Try to. -[chuckles] 214 00:12:07,767 --> 00:12:10,567 [narrator] Chrissy works with a team of researchers and analysts 215 00:12:10,567 --> 00:12:12,266 who review UFO databases, 216 00:12:12,266 --> 00:12:15,133 air traffic records, and satellite data. 217 00:12:16,567 --> 00:12:20,233 They also conduct state-of-the-art photo and video examination. 218 00:12:22,734 --> 00:12:26,100 The challenge was around date, time and location. 219 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,867 We didn't really have that. We had location. 220 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:30,734 -We have a year. -There's no time stamp on it. 221 00:12:30,734 --> 00:12:33,166 [Chrissy] We don't have a time stamp on it unfortunately. 222 00:12:33,166 --> 00:12:35,200 So, we're not able to crosscheck 223 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,066 the UFO databases or flight patterns. 224 00:12:39,567 --> 00:12:42,767 There's no satellite information. 225 00:12:42,767 --> 00:12:45,667 We just didn't have enough data to go on. 226 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:46,967 Hmm. 227 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,600 [Chrissy] One thing that we thought... 228 00:12:51,767 --> 00:12:53,600 "Could it be a meteorite?" 229 00:12:56,567 --> 00:12:59,066 So, this is stills from the video. 230 00:13:01,166 --> 00:13:02,433 -[Greg] Yeah. -[Chrissy] This is yours. 231 00:13:03,033 --> 00:13:04,166 [Greg] Wow. 232 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,066 [Chrissy] And this is a meteorite, 233 00:13:07,834 --> 00:13:11,000 from 1992 in Peekskill, New York. 234 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:12,133 [Greg] Wow. 235 00:13:13,867 --> 00:13:15,567 [narrator] A still taken from Greg's video, 236 00:13:15,567 --> 00:13:18,200 reveals similarities to an image of a meteor 237 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,667 taken in Peekskill, New York, in October of 1992. 238 00:13:23,667 --> 00:13:27,166 -[Greg] That pattern is incredibly similar. -[Chrissy] Right. 239 00:13:27,166 --> 00:13:29,266 And that's what we thought was really intriguing. 240 00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:30,500 Yeah. 241 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:32,266 We found out in our research, 242 00:13:32,266 --> 00:13:36,100 in '92 within that region, we didn't see any impact 243 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:39,033 that would say that it was a meteorite. 244 00:13:39,033 --> 00:13:43,967 -Okay. -And so then we thought that it could possibly be flares. 245 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:48,100 Because you are within a military area 246 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:49,567 -in a range,... -[Greg] Yeah. 247 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:52,100 ...but it was hard for us to determine 248 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:55,066 time, date, location, exact date. 249 00:13:56,033 --> 00:13:57,667 From the amount of information 250 00:13:57,667 --> 00:13:59,867 that we could get back to that time, 251 00:14:00,567 --> 00:14:01,834 within those regions 252 00:14:03,166 --> 00:14:08,233 there was live artillery, bombing and potentially war games. 253 00:14:13,367 --> 00:14:15,667 I don't have enough data 254 00:14:15,667 --> 00:14:20,133 to be able to make a real concrete conclusion, unfortunately. 255 00:14:21,867 --> 00:14:23,533 So I have to defer to Mitch. 256 00:14:26,467 --> 00:14:28,734 When I'm looking at these cases, 257 00:14:28,734 --> 00:14:32,734 I make a determination from an aggregate of details. 258 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:35,467 I'm going to take in 259 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:37,200 your account, your credibility, 260 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,433 Chrissy's analysis 261 00:14:40,066 --> 00:14:41,700 and come to my conclusion. 262 00:14:43,367 --> 00:14:46,066 First of all, there is your credibility as a witness, 263 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:47,734 which I think is very high. 264 00:14:49,166 --> 00:14:54,100 The video was analyzed to be absolutely unpolluted, uncorrupted. 265 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:57,166 It's almost like you've brought us this wonderful time capsule 266 00:14:57,166 --> 00:15:01,600 from the dawn of this present epic in UFO history. 267 00:15:02,467 --> 00:15:04,200 Based on all of this, 268 00:15:05,033 --> 00:15:09,000 and the unanswered questions that exist, 269 00:15:10,467 --> 00:15:12,500 in the strictest of terms, 270 00:15:13,767 --> 00:15:14,967 I would have to say, 271 00:15:17,166 --> 00:15:20,166 you did witness and capture a UFO. 272 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:25,834 What you captured is unidentified. 273 00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:27,467 It is definitely unidentified. 274 00:15:27,467 --> 00:15:28,367 -[Chrissy] Yeah. -Yeah. 275 00:15:28,367 --> 00:15:30,266 This has been a huge pleasure, Gregory. 276 00:15:30,266 --> 00:15:32,266 A huge pleasure for me, too. 277 00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:34,200 Yeah, great meeting you both. 278 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,233 Um... 279 00:15:35,233 --> 00:15:37,734 -Can I keep these? -Yeah, sure. Yeah. Go for it. 280 00:15:37,734 --> 00:15:38,867 Really appreciate it. 281 00:15:38,867 --> 00:15:39,934 -Thanks. -Back at you. 282 00:15:39,934 --> 00:15:41,200 -All right. All right. -See you later. 283 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Safe travels. Thank you, Greg. 284 00:15:46,166 --> 00:15:48,066 It's not definitely conclusive, 285 00:15:48,066 --> 00:15:50,567 but it was satisfying to hear an opinion 286 00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:53,166 about what these video images might be. 287 00:15:53,166 --> 00:15:56,100 Oh, my God. Holy [bleep]! 288 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,467 I visited Area 51 with my partner, Jacqueline, 289 00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:00,767 about two and a half years ago, 290 00:16:00,767 --> 00:16:02,667 and we went as close as you can get 291 00:16:02,667 --> 00:16:04,467 till you start to see threatening signs and... 292 00:16:04,467 --> 00:16:07,967 -Yeah. -...guys staring back at you from white SUVs 293 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,834 who do not look like they're welcoming visitors. 294 00:16:10,834 --> 00:16:14,934 No, and I would never recommend anyone to pass that line. 295 00:16:14,934 --> 00:16:19,500 I was at Area 51 right when it was coming to people's attention. 296 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:22,400 It's cool to feel like I am a part of history. 297 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:34,567 -[man] Hi. -[Mitch] Hey. 298 00:16:34,567 --> 00:16:36,300 -[Chrissy] Hey. -[Mitch] How's it going, my man? 299 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:39,467 -I couldn't help overhearing all the talk of UFOs. -[Chrissy] Yeah. 300 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:42,367 -[man] Unidentified Flying Objects and... -[Chrissy] Yeah. 301 00:16:42,367 --> 00:16:45,900 -I got a video, you guys might wanna look at. -[Chrissy] Yeah. 302 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,967 [woman] UFOs, man? 303 00:16:47,967 --> 00:16:50,166 -[child] What is that? -[woman] Videotape it. 304 00:16:50,166 --> 00:16:52,300 -Are you videotaping? -Yes, yes. 305 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:54,767 -Where is this? -This is going south on 285, 306 00:16:54,767 --> 00:16:56,000 -outside of-- -In here? 307 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,100 -Yes, in Roswell. -In Roswell? 308 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:58,767 [Mitch] Roswell, New Mexico, 309 00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:01,667 is the world's central gathering spot 310 00:17:01,667 --> 00:17:04,367 for UFO and alien experiencers. 311 00:17:04,367 --> 00:17:06,000 We were constantly seeing them, 312 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,300 and we don't know what they are. 313 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:11,367 [Mitch] The biggest stories and groundbreaking reports 314 00:17:11,367 --> 00:17:15,300 are only possible because of citizen seekers 315 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,567 who step up to provide the evidence, 316 00:17:18,567 --> 00:17:19,867 and blow the whistle. 317 00:17:19,867 --> 00:17:21,367 [Chrissy] It's amazing. Thank you very much. 318 00:17:21,367 --> 00:17:23,066 -[Mitch] We appreciate seeing that, man. -[Chrissy] Yeah. 319 00:17:30,667 --> 00:17:32,200 This video is pretty interesting. 320 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,867 Yeah, from what I've heard, and what I read is that he did his own analysis. 321 00:17:36,867 --> 00:17:38,667 So I'm curious to see what he said. 322 00:17:38,667 --> 00:17:40,734 -I'm curious to see how he did his researching... -Mm-hmm. 323 00:17:40,734 --> 00:17:42,567 -...compared to our research. -For sure. 324 00:17:42,567 --> 00:17:43,567 -[Chrissy] Yeah. -Hear about that. 325 00:17:43,567 --> 00:17:45,867 -Hey, how are you, man? -West. Nice to meet you. 326 00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:47,266 -West. Chrissy. -Chrissy, nice to meet you. 327 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:49,000 -Nice to meet you, too. -[Mitch] Welcome. 328 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,200 -Thank you very much. -Thanks for being here. 329 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,333 I'm excited to be here. 330 00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:53,033 I really appreciate you guys looking into this with me. 331 00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:54,166 -[Mitch] Absolutely. -[Chrissy] For sure. 332 00:17:54,166 --> 00:17:57,000 Please tell us, uh, what transpired. 333 00:18:00,066 --> 00:18:01,300 [West] My name is West Decker. 334 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:03,400 I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, 335 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,500 and I may be a UFO experiencer. 336 00:18:09,867 --> 00:18:14,400 For most of my life, I have always been skeptical, 337 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,300 but I really got interested in the UFO phenomenon 338 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:22,567 when the big articles came out in The New York Times 339 00:18:22,567 --> 00:18:25,400 and we started seeing videos from the Navy. 340 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,300 We know that in some cases, 341 00:18:28,300 --> 00:18:31,166 these phenomena have impacted military training, 342 00:18:31,166 --> 00:18:33,467 have then impacted military readiness. 343 00:18:33,467 --> 00:18:35,767 [reporter] The committee also heard from former pilots, 344 00:18:35,767 --> 00:18:38,200 who had witnessed Unidentified Flying Objects 345 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,000 they claim couldn't be flown by humans. 346 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,266 Could a human survived those G forces 347 00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:45,100 with known technology today? 348 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:46,467 -[Mr. Graves] No. -[CDR. Fravor Ret.] No, 349 00:18:46,467 --> 00:18:47,834 not for the acceleration rates that we observed. 350 00:18:47,834 --> 00:18:51,600 Something clicked with me, and I really got interested 351 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,166 in the whole topic of the UFO phenomenon, 352 00:18:56,667 --> 00:18:58,700 and I did research, read the books 353 00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:00,967 and I became convinced 354 00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:02,567 that there's something going on. 355 00:19:02,567 --> 00:19:03,834 I also became convinced 356 00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:05,100 that I have no idea what it is. 357 00:19:09,867 --> 00:19:14,367 On January 7th, 2024, I had finished dinner, 358 00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:17,567 and at that time my dog always wants to go out, 359 00:19:17,567 --> 00:19:19,333 so I walked out with him. 360 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,066 My kind of habit in the evening, 361 00:19:22,066 --> 00:19:25,000 is to just to scan the sky and just look for movement. 362 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:30,834 So I looked off to the southwest. 363 00:19:30,834 --> 00:19:35,600 It was dusk and I could see this bright white light. 364 00:19:38,033 --> 00:19:39,166 It was probably up in the sky 365 00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:41,000 for a good two or three seconds 366 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,533 before I got my camera out and started to record. 367 00:19:46,834 --> 00:19:48,800 Oh, my God, I'm actually seeing something. 368 00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:50,667 This is happening. 369 00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:55,200 [Chrissy] So, we cross-checked our flight databases. 370 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,033 It showed an aircraft in that area of the time 371 00:19:58,033 --> 00:20:00,700 that was traveling at 20,000 feet, 372 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:03,000 but... 373 00:20:07,166 --> 00:20:08,934 On January 7th, 2024, 374 00:20:08,934 --> 00:20:11,133 I looked off to the southwest. 375 00:20:11,133 --> 00:20:15,900 It was dusk and I could see this bright white light. 376 00:20:18,467 --> 00:20:19,567 It was probably up in the sky 377 00:20:19,567 --> 00:20:21,266 for a good two or three seconds 378 00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:23,867 before I got my camera out and started to record. 379 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:29,000 Oh, my God, I'm actually seeing something. 380 00:20:29,567 --> 00:20:30,700 This is happening. 381 00:20:33,767 --> 00:20:35,400 I was blown away. 382 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,667 I mean, I... I... at that moment in time, 383 00:20:37,667 --> 00:20:40,000 I didn't know what to think. 384 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,767 As it moved, it slowly grew, 385 00:20:43,767 --> 00:20:46,533 and then it expanded out into this ring. 386 00:20:52,867 --> 00:20:57,734 It slowed down and then... faded... 387 00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:01,033 and then it disappeared. 388 00:21:05,667 --> 00:21:08,133 There was this progression of thoughts 389 00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:09,800 and emotions that I went through. 390 00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:12,934 I immediately was in awe. 391 00:21:12,934 --> 00:21:16,000 My next thought was, "What if it wasn't real?" [laughs] 392 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,100 "What if it was just something mundane"? 393 00:21:19,967 --> 00:21:23,734 If I'm gonna try to get to the bottom of the sighting that I had, 394 00:21:23,734 --> 00:21:27,667 I think we should be facts and evidence base. 395 00:21:27,667 --> 00:21:30,767 We've got to be real careful because we could be missing 396 00:21:30,767 --> 00:21:32,867 some important evidence 397 00:21:32,867 --> 00:21:36,500 simply because we're more prone to a convenient answer. 398 00:21:39,467 --> 00:21:41,300 To me, I don't want "probably." 399 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,300 I wanna get to the bottom of it. 400 00:21:48,734 --> 00:21:53,567 West, what are you hoping for from our exchange today first? 401 00:21:53,567 --> 00:21:55,500 I want to know what the truth is, 402 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,934 as best as we can figure it out. 403 00:21:57,934 --> 00:22:00,934 -Well, West, we received your testimony... -Yep. 404 00:22:00,934 --> 00:22:03,266 -...and your video evidence... -Mm-hmm. 405 00:22:03,266 --> 00:22:05,166 ...which Chrissy has reviewed... 406 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:07,033 -Oh, awesome. -...with analysts, 407 00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:09,100 and she's going to have some findings 408 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,600 -to disclose. -Excellent. 409 00:22:12,467 --> 00:22:13,667 [narrator] West submitted 410 00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:16,000 a 67-second-long cell phone video 411 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,300 that he recorded on January 7th, 2024, for analysis. 412 00:22:23,934 --> 00:22:26,734 So we look for a date, time and location, 413 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:28,600 photo and video evidence. 414 00:22:29,467 --> 00:22:32,200 We cross-checked our flight databases. 415 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,400 It showed an aircraft in that area of the time 416 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,100 that was traveling at 20,000 feet, 417 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,600 but what you saw was unlike an aircraft. 418 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:49,367 [West] It wasn't a plane for sure. 419 00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:53,133 It wasn't anything conventional that I'm used to seeing. 420 00:22:53,133 --> 00:22:54,734 We also looked for mass sightings. 421 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,500 And we found a lot of social media coverage. 422 00:23:00,367 --> 00:23:02,700 [woman] What is this in the sky? 423 00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:05,600 [man] Oh, man, that's crazy. 424 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,166 [woman] This is bananas right now. 425 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,667 There was multiple UFO activity 426 00:23:13,667 --> 00:23:15,767 reported in North Texas, 427 00:23:15,767 --> 00:23:18,333 and there was a whole bunch of media coverage. 428 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:25,166 So a lot of people saw that. 429 00:23:25,166 --> 00:23:26,967 Yeah, exactly. 430 00:23:26,967 --> 00:23:29,800 And then we cross-checked rocket launch data. 431 00:23:31,367 --> 00:23:33,467 So what we did notice 432 00:23:33,467 --> 00:23:37,400 is that SpaceX launch occurred on January 7th 433 00:23:37,934 --> 00:23:41,000 at 4:35 Central Standard Time. 434 00:23:42,467 --> 00:23:45,300 [man at Space X] Go, Falcon. Go, go! 435 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:48,066 But it occurred an hour and a half before your sighting. 436 00:23:50,266 --> 00:23:51,600 The time doesn't match up. 437 00:23:52,567 --> 00:23:54,734 Yeah, exactly. That was my confusion, too. 438 00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:58,400 The one thing, though, that was really interesting, 439 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,600 and we were a little bit boggled, 440 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000 was that the aura glow that came off it, 441 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,600 and we're like, "What is that?" 442 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:13,166 From further analysis, 443 00:24:13,867 --> 00:24:15,266 we did conclude 444 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,400 it's a sound barrier compression wave. 445 00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:24,066 [narrator] When an object passes through the air, 446 00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:26,166 it creates a series of pressure waves 447 00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:28,266 similar to the waves created by a boat. 448 00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:31,166 These waves travel at the speed of sound, 449 00:24:31,166 --> 00:24:33,834 and as the speed increases, the waves are compressed, 450 00:24:33,834 --> 00:24:37,634 which appears to be what was captured in West's video. 451 00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:42,500 According to the data, 452 00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:48,133 it's SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket booster 453 00:24:49,166 --> 00:24:50,967 that was entering the atmosphere. 454 00:24:54,667 --> 00:24:59,233 It was a second stage reentry of SpaceX Falcon 9. 455 00:25:02,166 --> 00:25:04,467 This particular piece of evidence 456 00:25:04,467 --> 00:25:06,066 didn't capture a UFO. 457 00:25:12,033 --> 00:25:13,834 And I am completely okay with that. 458 00:25:13,834 --> 00:25:15,300 I'm glad we found the answer. 459 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,767 And West, your credibility and reliability 460 00:25:20,767 --> 00:25:23,400 as a witness is absolutely impeccable. 461 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,266 You've been completely transparent, ethical, 462 00:25:27,266 --> 00:25:29,166 and when I first saw the video, 463 00:25:29,166 --> 00:25:33,400 I was very excited because it's very alluringly shot. 464 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,700 This is a remarkable video. 465 00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:38,000 Thank you. 466 00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:41,066 The fact that it was something mundane 467 00:25:41,066 --> 00:25:44,200 doesn't make it any less, uh, amazing to me. 468 00:25:45,266 --> 00:25:46,533 I'm so grateful that you guys were able 469 00:25:46,533 --> 00:25:49,767 -to get that next level of research, and... -[Chrissy] Yeah. 470 00:25:49,767 --> 00:25:51,667 ...and apply that kind of rigor 471 00:25:51,667 --> 00:25:53,667 because I guessed that that glow 472 00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:55,166 and that diffused ring and stuff 473 00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,000 were maybe a fuel dump, but... 474 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,066 That doesn't take away from any of those other experiences. 475 00:26:00,066 --> 00:26:01,500 Sure, and I appreciate that. 476 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,266 I am extraordinarily grateful 477 00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:08,934 for all the work that you guys put into this, 478 00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:10,600 -tracking the orbits like this... -Yeah. 479 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,033 ...that was one of the things that I was missing in my own research. 480 00:26:14,033 --> 00:26:15,834 That's just something that's outside of my reach, 481 00:26:15,834 --> 00:26:17,834 so I'm really, uh, impressed, 482 00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:22,867 and to me, it was more important to find out what I saw 483 00:26:22,867 --> 00:26:24,967 than it was for me to find what I wanted to see. 484 00:26:24,967 --> 00:26:27,667 -West, you are a true citizen seeker. -[Chrissy] Yeah. 485 00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:29,166 -Thank you. -[Mitch] And this has been a great pleasure. 486 00:26:29,166 --> 00:26:30,867 -[both] Thank you. -It's been my pleasure. 487 00:26:32,667 --> 00:26:34,100 -[Chrissy] Thanks, West. -Thank you. 488 00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:39,200 Well, that is a man who believes in pure questioning. 489 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,133 One of the rarest of all traits. 490 00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:42,867 This was the kind of help I was looking for. 491 00:26:42,867 --> 00:26:44,667 Which was, you know, having people 492 00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:47,400 who could find out the answers that I couldn't. 493 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,266 Mitch and Chrissy are so big in this field 494 00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:54,133 that even though mine didn't turn out to be a UFO, 495 00:26:54,133 --> 00:26:56,500 it was like an amazing experience. 496 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,600 We did a detail analysis on your video. 497 00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:09,333 We know it's not been faked or altered in any way. 498 00:27:10,734 --> 00:27:12,100 One thing, though... 499 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,867 Everything that we do is building a record, 500 00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:35,166 and everybody's got different levels of evidence. 501 00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:36,000 Yeah. 502 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,400 I was like, "Mom," like, "Come here, 503 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,667 you have to see what's outside," 504 00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:43,500 because it was just such a weird, translucent, whitish color. 505 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,066 Eventually, it just disappeared into nothing. 506 00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:49,433 And I mean, I had no idea what it was. 507 00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:51,166 I just don't have any data, 508 00:27:51,166 --> 00:27:53,166 and there's no hard science for me to analyze, 509 00:27:53,166 --> 00:27:56,500 to say that that is 100% real or accurate. 510 00:27:57,767 --> 00:28:00,166 [Mitch] A lot of the experiencers 511 00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:03,100 that comes through the door here at the Variety 512 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,367 are people with firsthand accounts. 513 00:28:06,367 --> 00:28:10,033 They cannot always provide the hard evidence 514 00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:14,133 that Chrissy and her team require for analysis. 515 00:28:15,033 --> 00:28:16,100 Hey, Welcome. 516 00:28:16,567 --> 00:28:17,600 -Hey. -Hey-hey. 517 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,066 -How's it going. Mitch. -Hello. 518 00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:22,467 July of 2022, I was, I think it was like 5:00 a.m. 519 00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:25,100 [Mitch] For me, this doesn't necessarily mean 520 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,600 that their account cannot be taken seriously. 521 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,767 And so we all look up and there's a dot in the sky, 522 00:28:32,767 --> 00:28:35,266 and then instantly there is a craft 523 00:28:35,266 --> 00:28:38,467 in the yard, um, in front of us. 524 00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:40,667 [Mitch] I listen with a critical mind. 525 00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:44,033 I turned around and there was a being at the foot of my bed 526 00:28:44,033 --> 00:28:45,967 who was about three or four feet tall. 527 00:28:45,967 --> 00:28:48,467 It had the big eyes, real spindly. 528 00:28:48,467 --> 00:28:51,000 -Looked like a kid. -Mm-hmm. 529 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,767 Do they truly believe what they saw was real? 530 00:28:54,767 --> 00:29:00,500 Um, but I guess the biggest question is like, "Why me?" 531 00:29:01,734 --> 00:29:04,100 [Mitch] And are they a credible witness 532 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,800 with respect to what they're saying? 533 00:29:06,867 --> 00:29:10,400 You've also, frankly, put your own reputations on the line. 534 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,734 -You're working people. -[Chrissy] Oh, yeah. 535 00:29:11,734 --> 00:29:14,700 You have friends, you have families, you have work relationships. 536 00:29:16,767 --> 00:29:19,567 All of these factors help me determine 537 00:29:19,567 --> 00:29:23,266 where their story falls on the scale of fact. 538 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,033 Even though there's no evidence, I believe in the story 539 00:29:30,033 --> 00:29:31,634 that you are bringing to the table. 540 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,133 [woman] Thank you. 541 00:29:38,867 --> 00:29:40,400 The bar is a great place, 542 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,367 which people crisscross through. 543 00:29:42,367 --> 00:29:43,767 -Yeah. -It's UFO junction. 544 00:29:43,767 --> 00:29:45,400 Oh, yeah, seriously. 545 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,100 -Everyone has a story... -Yep. 546 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,300 ...and this is the town that UFOs built. 547 00:29:55,367 --> 00:29:57,967 What's your understanding of the skinwalker? What is that? 548 00:29:57,967 --> 00:29:59,567 [Chrissy] With a skinwalker, it can 549 00:29:59,567 --> 00:30:01,300 -shape-shift and transform. -Mm-hmm. 550 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,200 One day it might be, some will say that they've seen a wolf 551 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,734 and then it can shape-shift into something else. 552 00:30:05,734 --> 00:30:08,967 -Mm-hmm. -So it's not really, we don't know what it is. 553 00:30:08,967 --> 00:30:10,734 -Interesting. -Yeah. 554 00:30:12,667 --> 00:30:14,266 Hey, man. Good to see you. Ryan. I'm Mitch. 555 00:30:14,266 --> 00:30:15,567 Hi. Chrissy. Nice to meet you. 556 00:30:15,567 --> 00:30:17,867 -Good to meet you both. -[Mitch] Welcome. 557 00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:20,767 First and foremost, we want to hear 558 00:30:20,767 --> 00:30:23,600 your account directly from you 559 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,400 to ensure that we haven't missed anything. 560 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,400 So walk us through the events. 561 00:30:31,467 --> 00:30:33,133 [Ryan] My name is Ryan Burns. 562 00:30:33,834 --> 00:30:38,266 On June 17th, 2012, 12:36, 563 00:30:38,266 --> 00:30:42,500 I saw something that I could not understand, comprehend, 564 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,200 and still wonder to this day what I might have done. 565 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,567 I am a property manager. 566 00:30:51,567 --> 00:30:53,600 One of the properties shares a fence line 567 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,266 with Skinwalker Ranch up in the northeastern part of Utah. 568 00:30:58,934 --> 00:31:00,734 And there's a lot going on there. 569 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,834 That whole area has high strangeness appeal. 570 00:31:06,834 --> 00:31:10,100 That's where I had one of the strangest events. 571 00:31:11,667 --> 00:31:13,934 I was on the property with a friend 572 00:31:13,934 --> 00:31:16,500 and he said, "Hey, you guys, come check this out." 573 00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:19,667 When I went outside, I immediately saw, 574 00:31:19,667 --> 00:31:22,900 for lack of a better word, this tubular craft. 575 00:31:28,567 --> 00:31:30,600 It was directly over our heads, 576 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,367 somewhere along the lines of 2, 300 feet, 577 00:31:33,367 --> 00:31:34,834 so close enough to get a look, 578 00:31:34,834 --> 00:31:37,700 but far enough that we couldn't tell what it was. 579 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,000 I ran back inside, grabbed the camcorder. 580 00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:45,867 When I zoomed in with the camcorder 581 00:31:45,867 --> 00:31:48,066 is when we started to really get an idea of, 582 00:31:48,066 --> 00:31:50,066 like, what this thing might be made of. 583 00:31:52,066 --> 00:31:53,867 It looked like it was something very solid, 584 00:31:53,867 --> 00:31:56,300 cylindrical and slightly moving up. 585 00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:59,000 As I zoomed in with the camcorder, 586 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,166 there was no signs of propulsion. 587 00:32:02,367 --> 00:32:05,367 It seemed to be rolling or undulating, 588 00:32:05,367 --> 00:32:07,066 moving more in ways 589 00:32:07,066 --> 00:32:09,367 that were not congruent with it 590 00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:11,800 being reflective and metallic looking. 591 00:32:12,867 --> 00:32:14,300 Whatever it was, it seemed like 592 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,266 it was intelligently controlled, 593 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,667 almost more biological, 594 00:32:19,667 --> 00:32:24,166 as if it knew it might be watched. 595 00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:26,300 You know, when the three of us were pointing and talking, 596 00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,900 it just rose 597 00:32:28,967 --> 00:32:30,400 until it was out of sight. 598 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,734 After it disappeared, 599 00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:40,166 we checked all kinds of flight logs. 600 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:43,266 There seemed to be nothing that matched this description. 601 00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:45,567 It falls into line with a lot of 602 00:32:45,567 --> 00:32:48,166 strange descriptions in the area. 603 00:32:49,266 --> 00:32:52,400 I honestly don't know what we saw that day, 604 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,667 but there was a lot that kinda pointed me 605 00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:56,000 in the direction of something... 606 00:32:57,567 --> 00:32:59,400 non-human. 607 00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:07,300 What is it you hope to gain from our exchange today? What are you looking for? 608 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,500 Um, any thoughts, uh, theories. 609 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,066 What, you think, you know, 610 00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,600 what... what boxes it checks, and which ones it doesn't. 611 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,500 Where it fits into the whole scheme of things. 612 00:33:18,166 --> 00:33:20,266 I think the, uh, the more experiences 613 00:33:20,266 --> 00:33:22,467 and opportunities we have to see things 614 00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,467 that are somewhat anomalous in nature, 615 00:33:24,467 --> 00:33:28,066 -and I think there's more to be gathered from it all. -[Mitch] Hmm. 616 00:33:28,066 --> 00:33:33,000 We have received your accounts and your evidence. 617 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,166 [narrator] Ryan Burns submitted a 20-second long video 618 00:33:37,166 --> 00:33:39,767 of an object flying over Skinwalker Ranch 619 00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:42,600 in Utah, that he filmed in 2012. 620 00:33:43,967 --> 00:33:47,266 Hopefully, Chrissy can shed some significant light 621 00:33:47,266 --> 00:33:49,967 on these questions of yours. 622 00:33:49,967 --> 00:33:53,367 All right, so let's just go through the collected material. 623 00:33:53,367 --> 00:33:56,433 I have a video along with, then your own testimony. 624 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,066 Some research that we did, is we looked at 625 00:34:00,066 --> 00:34:02,033 the historical analysis of the area 626 00:34:02,033 --> 00:34:03,066 and past sightings, 627 00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:07,834 we know that Skinwalker Ranch in the Uinta Basin 628 00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:12,934 is filled with tons of UFO sightings, 629 00:34:12,934 --> 00:34:14,734 high strangeness. 630 00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:18,967 [narrator] Located in northeastern Utah, 631 00:34:18,967 --> 00:34:20,667 Skinwalker Ranch has been known 632 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:23,600 for its UFO sightings for more than 50 years. 633 00:34:24,734 --> 00:34:28,166 In 2008, the Defense Intelligence Agency created 634 00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:32,867 the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Application Program 635 00:34:32,867 --> 00:34:35,133 and along with ranch owner Robert Bigelow, 636 00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:37,100 they began researching UFOs 637 00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,700 and other strange phenomena reported there. 638 00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:43,433 The program ended in 2012, 639 00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:46,400 and the results of the four-year study 640 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,100 led to the creation of the now declassified 641 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:52,333 Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 642 00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,867 So, we looked into that and we did take it into consideration. 643 00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:03,333 We also did a detailed analysis on your video. 644 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,800 We know it's not been faked or altered in any way. 645 00:35:11,367 --> 00:35:13,867 And then we did check all UFO databases 646 00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:17,800 for aircraft and unknown objects in the sky. 647 00:35:20,066 --> 00:35:21,100 And we saw nothing. 648 00:35:22,266 --> 00:35:23,867 One thing, though... 649 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,066 When I first saw the images and video, 650 00:35:30,066 --> 00:35:31,266 I thought, "Ah, this is gonna be 651 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,266 a weather balloon, solar sail." 652 00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:35,300 You know, something of that nature, 653 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,133 but I'm surprised as hell... 654 00:35:46,467 --> 00:35:51,266 2024 is the year of disclosure. 655 00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:53,467 I'm here in Roswell, New Mexico, 656 00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:57,567 home of the 1947 UFO crash site, 657 00:35:57,567 --> 00:36:00,166 which has become a mecca 658 00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:03,867 for UFO experiencers, and seekers. 659 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:09,300 The key to finding answers lies within the people 660 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:13,667 who have experienced this phenomena firsthand. 661 00:36:13,667 --> 00:36:17,533 I'm hoping to find that one true gem of evidence... 662 00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:28,834 I'm experiencing chills over here. 663 00:36:28,834 --> 00:36:33,900 ...that stands out and rewrites history forever. 664 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:41,467 When I went outside, I immediately saw, 665 00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:42,567 for lack of a better word, 666 00:36:42,567 --> 00:36:45,266 this tubular craft. 667 00:36:45,266 --> 00:36:47,166 It was directly over our heads 668 00:36:47,166 --> 00:36:50,166 somewhere along the lines of 2, 300 feet. 669 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:52,934 I honestly don't know what we saw that day, 670 00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:55,066 but there was a lot that kinda pointed me 671 00:36:55,066 --> 00:36:57,967 in the direction of something non-human. 672 00:37:03,066 --> 00:37:07,133 We did a detailed analysis on your video. 673 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,000 We know it's not been faked or altered in any way. 674 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,834 We did check all UFO databases, 675 00:37:14,834 --> 00:37:17,533 for aircraft, and unknown objects. 676 00:37:20,767 --> 00:37:21,967 And we saw nothing. 677 00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:26,033 There wasn't any other UFO connections 678 00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:29,066 or anything that was reported with any other databases. 679 00:37:30,266 --> 00:37:32,133 Also, the movement was so slow 680 00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:35,500 that it does eliminate any airplanes. 681 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,700 So, finally, we had two analysts look at this. 682 00:37:45,033 --> 00:37:46,700 They thought that it could be... 683 00:37:49,734 --> 00:37:51,033 a solar balloon. 684 00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:55,934 That day, the temperatures were in the mid-'90s, 685 00:37:55,934 --> 00:37:58,066 so it's a great condition for that. 686 00:38:02,033 --> 00:38:04,567 [narrator] Solar balloons are used to study the weather 687 00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:07,900 and for other airborne scientific investigations. 688 00:38:09,233 --> 00:38:12,867 One thing, though, both analysts said 689 00:38:12,867 --> 00:38:16,367 there wasn't any solar balloon launch data at that point in time, 690 00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:20,400 so they couldn't prove that it was a solar balloon. 691 00:38:23,567 --> 00:38:25,367 Definitely baffled. 692 00:38:25,367 --> 00:38:27,967 [Chrissy] The experts said they're perplexed, too. 693 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:31,400 It's unidentified. 694 00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:35,867 Well, um, I'm surprised as hell, 695 00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:38,767 you know, because I have to be perfectly frank. 696 00:38:38,767 --> 00:38:41,233 When I first saw the images and video, 697 00:38:41,233 --> 00:38:42,567 I thought, "Ah, this is gonna be 698 00:38:42,567 --> 00:38:44,600 a weather balloon solar sail." 699 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,567 You know something of that nature 700 00:38:46,567 --> 00:38:49,967 but I'd have to say 701 00:38:49,967 --> 00:38:54,066 based on the material, culture, locality, 702 00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:57,600 your credibility as a witness, 703 00:38:58,567 --> 00:39:00,867 the analysis from the experts, 704 00:39:02,767 --> 00:39:05,000 you saw a UFO. 705 00:39:07,467 --> 00:39:11,300 I mean, UFO in my mind is something unidentified. 706 00:39:11,967 --> 00:39:14,133 It's quite common to talk to people 707 00:39:14,133 --> 00:39:15,567 that experience this sort of thing, 708 00:39:15,567 --> 00:39:19,767 but it's a lot harder to actually have analysts like that 709 00:39:19,767 --> 00:39:22,233 who are experienced, to be able to actually 710 00:39:22,233 --> 00:39:25,133 view video evidence and come away with that, 711 00:39:25,133 --> 00:39:27,367 so I think it's really exciting. 712 00:39:27,367 --> 00:39:28,734 -[Mitch] Thank you, man. -[Chrissy] Thank you. 713 00:39:28,734 --> 00:39:30,133 We appreciate your sharing this 714 00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:31,266 and your stepping forward. 715 00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:32,367 -[Chrissy] Yeah. -Yeah, appreciate you both. Thank you. 716 00:39:32,367 --> 00:39:33,867 -[Mitch] Yeah. -[Chrissy] Nice to meet you. 717 00:39:36,133 --> 00:39:39,500 This is a field that comes with a lot of doubt. 718 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:42,266 Now that the experts have validated this, 719 00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:44,934 it assures me that I'm on the right path. 720 00:39:44,934 --> 00:39:46,567 You know, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. 721 00:39:46,567 --> 00:39:50,233 I'm gonna keep working towards more disclosure. 722 00:39:50,233 --> 00:39:51,500 I was surprised. 723 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,166 I... Well, it was hard decision. 724 00:39:53,166 --> 00:39:54,100 -I know it was. -Yeah. 725 00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,367 I really, really thought you were gonna say, 726 00:39:56,367 --> 00:39:58,600 "Look, this is a weather balloon. This is a sail." 727 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,100 Something else. I really, I was surprised. 728 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,834 You know, and we can't find any other data in that region 729 00:40:04,834 --> 00:40:06,367 that says that there was a plane 730 00:40:06,367 --> 00:40:08,500 or anything else in that... in that area. 731 00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,867 -Then to me, it says UFO. -Yeah. 732 00:40:11,867 --> 00:40:17,367 So I have to go on the fact that it's potentially an Unidentified Flying Object. 733 00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:19,700 -Yeah, it's a UFO. -Bravo. 734 00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,700 Well, another good night at the Variety. 735 00:40:25,767 --> 00:40:27,266 -Yeah. -One more joke for the road. 736 00:40:27,266 --> 00:40:28,066 Oh, man. 737 00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:30,433 What do you find on every alien farm? 738 00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:34,100 -I don't know. -A tractor beam. 739 00:40:39,166 --> 00:40:41,667 I've been chasing a phenomenon all of my life, 740 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:45,500 and we captured something that I've never seen before. 741 00:40:46,867 --> 00:40:49,000 What the is [bleep] that? 742 00:40:50,066 --> 00:40:51,266 Wow. 743 00:40:51,266 --> 00:40:54,000 I... I don't understand what it could have been. 744 00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:55,967 [man 1] We went to an event 745 00:40:55,967 --> 00:40:58,700 which is kind of a meditational focused 746 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,667 intention to make contact with extraterrestrials. 747 00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,467 I was like, "What the F is that?" 748 00:41:04,467 --> 00:41:06,233 [people exclaiming] 749 00:41:07,166 --> 00:41:08,467 Some part of me is just like, 750 00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:11,200 this experience was not of this world. 751 00:41:13,266 --> 00:41:14,967 I saw things I couldn't explain 752 00:41:14,967 --> 00:41:16,533 happening in the sky. 753 00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:19,100 -Holy [bleep]. -[man 2] It is gone. 754 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,500 -[woman exclaims] -[man 4] Oh, my God. 755 00:41:21,867 --> 00:41:22,834 It's gone. 756 00:41:22,834 --> 00:41:26,467 I'm not entirely sure what I saw that night, 757 00:41:26,467 --> 00:41:30,166 but I do know that I witnessed something extraordinary. 62288

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