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[Greg] We've been waitinga couple of hours
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and we see a light pop up.
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Oh, my God.
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It wasn't likediscovering something
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and, like, "Oh, wow,
we're getting to see this."
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It was like,
"Oh, no, what are we seeing?"
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[West] I looked offto the southwest
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and I could see
this bright white light.
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I was blown away.
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I wanna get
to the bottom of it.
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When I went outside,
I immediately saw
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this tubular craft.
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Whatever it was,it seemed like
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it wasintelligently controlled,
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as if it knew
it might be watched.
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[woman] I see it again.
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I see it. I see it.
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[Greg] Oh, my God.
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Holy [bleep]!
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[man 3]
You've got to see this.
You've got to see this.
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[narrator] Around the world,people are witnessing
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and capturingunexplained phenomenaeveryday...
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There's a feeling you get,
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the hairs on your arms
your neck kinda stand up.
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[man 4]
What the [bleep] is that?
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There was a lot
that pointed me
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in the direction
of something non-human.
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[woman 2]
Oh [bleep], there it goes.
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[man 4 speaking]
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[narrator] ...and they arelooking for answers.
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It left me
with a lot of questions.
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[narrator] The recent releaseof thousands of pages
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of declassifiedUS Government documents,whistleblower testimony...
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[CDR. Fravor Ret.]
These objects have beenobserved for over two weeks,
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coming down from
over 80,000 feet.
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[narrator]
...and shocking new evidencecould hold the answer.
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Can you confirm
that's what it was?
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Yes, that's what it was.
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[narrator] Now,two expert investigatorswill use this new information,
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and their expertiseto unlock the truth.
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I'm experiencing
chills over here.
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[narrator] Mitch Horowitzis an author and historian,
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known for hisinvestigative researchinto the unexplained...
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You all have had some
very mysterious experiences.
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The video
is extremely compelling.
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[narrator]
...and Chrissy Newtonis a journalist and authority
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on space, science,and the unknown.
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And we were told that
this was a secret location.
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Absolutely.
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When I looked up,
I saw a UFO in the sky.
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[narrator] Thousandsof experiencers came forward
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and submittedtheir personal stories
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and evidencefor examination...
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These beings were so
so gloriously beautiful.
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[narrator] ...hopingto finally separatefact from fiction.
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[Mitch] Based on everything
that you've brought
to the table...
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you witnessed a UFO.
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I am excited
for us to be talking
about Area 51 and UFO lore,
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that's King Arthur's Court,
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and we're about to
go way back.
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Heading down
the road of 1992--
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-Gregory, how are you?
Welcome. Mitch.
-Hi. Hi.
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-[Chrissy] Hi.
-Please sit down.
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-[Greg] Hi.
-Nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you, too.
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-Thanks for being here.
-Thanks for having me.
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-[Mitch] Absolutely
a pleasure.
-Absolutely, yeah.
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You are
one of the trailblazers
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of what is one of
the number one UFO hot spots
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of the 21st century.
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-Yeah.
-[Mitch] That's remarkable.
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Well, first and foremost,
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we wanna ask you
to tell us your story,
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where you were, when it was,
and what happened.
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[Greg] My name is Greg Ayers,
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and I think that I saw
a UFO at Area 51.
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This wasin the late spring of 1992.
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I was livingin San Francisco at the time,
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and my ex was very deep
into conspiracy theories.
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Area 51 had been getting
some unwanted attention.
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The US Government's
infamous Area 51
in the Nevada desert
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has been cloaked inconspiracy theories for years,
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and recently,President Clinton reclassified
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the security statusfor this top secretclandestine compound.
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[reporter 2]
The spokesperson forthe US Department of Energy,
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who holds jurisdictionover the Nevada test site,had no comment on UFOs.
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[reporter 3]
Las Vegas Police report
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quite a few callsjust last night
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from people who sawstrange lights in the skiesnorthwest of the city.
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It's top secret military basecalled Area 51.
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Witnesses say the objectwas like a pyramid
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or a V-shaped wedgewith pulsating yellow lights.
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An ex-employee from Area 51,
this guy named Bob Lazar,
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started giving interviews
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with a local Las Vegasnews station.
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He was purportingthat he was hired
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to reverse engineerUFO technology
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that the US Governmenthad acquired
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through
actual alien encounters.
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Real obvious
what was in the hangar.
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You could seeabout three quartersof the edge of the craft.
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It wasa typical flying saucer.
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Human hands
did not put this together.
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[reporter 1] Lazarbrought a group of friendsto the edge of the facility,
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where they videotapedthe so-called UFO
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on what Lazar sayswas a test flight.
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[man 1] Man,
it is really bright.
Look at it. Look at it.
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I believe
beyond any shadow of a doubt
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uh, that, "Yes,
these are alien spacecraft."
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[Greg] Just the factthat he went on air
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and revealed these things
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really stirred up
a lot of interest.
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And so my ex decided
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that we were going
to make a trip to Area 51.
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My ex had some directionsthat he had gotten
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and we were going to lookfor this black mailbox
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at the end of a entrance way
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into the military compound
of Area 51.
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Miraculously,we find this black mailboxat the end of this entryway.
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We brought our video cameras
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because we were determined
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to catch
some kind of evidence.
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We've beenwaiting a couple of hoursand we see a light pop up.
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Pops up over the ridge.
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It is a yellowish orange
glowing light.
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I was recording,
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then the light
just sort of hovered there.
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[bleep]
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Then that light is joinedby some more lights.
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Oh, my God. Holy [bleep]!
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When I zoom in on my camera,
you've got to see it.
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Then they started tracing
the top of the mountain ridge,
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but at an incredible speed,
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and then disappeared.
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Definitely way faster
than you see an airplane fly,
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and it was not a helicopter.
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It was somethingthat we couldn't identify.
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I'm totally getting
footage of this.
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The whole thingjust seemed kind of creepy.
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Oh, my God.
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It wasn't like
discovering something
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and, like, "Oh, wow,
we're getting to see this."
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It was like,
"Oh, no, what are we seeing?"
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I got scared,
emotionally overwhelmed,
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and I put the video camera
down on the ground.
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Then everything
just went dark.
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The next morning,
I was so nervous about it
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and it really seemed
like we were doing
something very dangerous.
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Felt likewe were violating the law.
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Well, I know we were...
[chuckling]
...violating the law,
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and so I took the tape
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and I brought it
back to my house,
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where it just sat...
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for quite a long time.
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You've brought to the table
your own experience, account.
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You have provided really
extraordinary evidence.
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One of the things
that is so exciting
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is that you have extremely
rare vintage video evidence
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going back
to the VHS era of 1992,
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pre X-Files,
pre 21st century
contemporary UFO studies.
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-What you captured...
-[Greg] Mm-hmm.
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...represents some of
the first civilian footage
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that has ever been taken,
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ever been made
publicly available
for the first time,
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thanks to your efforts,
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and that's profoundly exciting
in and of itself.
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[narrator] Gregory submitteda 47-second-long video
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that he recorded in 1992inside the Area 51 base.
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This is the first timehe has ever shared
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the images from that night.
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-My question to you is...
-Mm-hmm.
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...why did you
keep it private until now?
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[Mitch] Based on all of this
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and the unanswered
questions that exist,
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I would have to say...
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[West] It was probablyup in the sky
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for a goodtwo or three seconds
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before I got my camera out
and started to record.
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Oh, my God,
I'm actually seeing something.
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This is happening.
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My ex decided
that we were going
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to make a trip to Area 51.
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We brought our video cameras
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because we were determined
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to catch
some kind of evidence.
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We've been waiting
a couple of hours
and we see a light pop up.
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Then that light is joinedby some more lights.
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Oh, my God.
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Holy [bleep]!
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The whole thing
just seemed kind of creepy.
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Oh, my God.
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You've brought to the table
your own experience, account.
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You have provided really
extraordinary evidence
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going back
to an earlier generation.
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-My question to you is...
-Mm-hmm.
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...why did you
keep it private until now?
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Back then,
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I maybe
didn't share it so much
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because it sounded crazy...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...and this just seemed to be
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the right time
to tell this story.
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What do you hope to gain
from this exchange?
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This happened early in '92.
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There was no Internet.
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Doing research
was literally us getting
in the car and driving there,
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and it would be amazing
to get some insights.
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Chrissy has teamed
with researchers
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to study the video evidence...
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-Amazing.
-...that you provided,
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and she will be stepping up
with some insights.
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We'll do our very best
to provide you
with what we can.
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Some answers.
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-Try to.
-[chuckles]
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[narrator]
Chrissy works with a teamof researchers and analysts
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who review UFO databases,
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air traffic records,and satellite data.
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They also conductstate-of-the-art photoand video examination.
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The challenge was around
date, time and location.
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We didn't really have that.
We had location.
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-We have a year.
-There's no time stamp on it.
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[Chrissy] We don't
have a time stamp
on it unfortunately.
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So, we're not
able to crosscheck
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the UFO databases
or flight patterns.
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There's no
satellite information.
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We just didn't have
enough data to go on.
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Hmm.
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[Chrissy] One thing
that we thought...
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"Could it be a meteorite?"
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So, this is stills
from the video.
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-[Greg] Yeah.
-[Chrissy] This is yours.
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[Greg] Wow.
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[Chrissy]
And this is a meteorite,
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from 1992
in Peekskill, New York.
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[Greg] Wow.
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[narrator] A stilltaken from Greg's video,
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reveals similaritiesto an image of a meteor
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taken in Peekskill, New York,in October of 1992.
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-[Greg] That pattern
is incredibly similar.
-[Chrissy] Right.
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And that's what we thought
was really intriguing.
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Yeah.
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We found out in our research,
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in '92 within that region,
we didn't see any impact
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that would say
that it was a meteorite.
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-Okay.
-And so then we thought that
it could possibly be flares.
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Because you are
within a military area
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-in a range,...
-[Greg] Yeah.
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...but it was hard
for us to determine
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time, date,
location, exact date.
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From the amount of information
250
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that we could get
back to that time,
251
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within those regions
252
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there was
live artillery, bombing
and potentially war games.
253
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I don't have enough data
254
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to be able to make
a real concrete conclusion,
unfortunately.
255
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So I have to defer to Mitch.
256
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When I'm looking
at these cases,
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I make a determination
from an aggregate of details.
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I'm going to take in
259
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your account,
your credibility,
260
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Chrissy's analysis
261
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and come to my conclusion.
262
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First of all, there is
your credibility as a witness,
263
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which I think is very high.
264
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The video was analyzed
to be absolutely
unpolluted, uncorrupted.
265
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It's almost likeyou've brought usthis wonderful time capsule
266
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from the dawnof this present epicin UFO history.
267
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Based on all of this,
268
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and the unanswered
questions that exist,
269
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in the strictest of terms,
270
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I would have to say,
271
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you did witness
and capture a UFO.
272
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What you captured
is unidentified.
273
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It is definitely unidentified.
274
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-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-Yeah.
275
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This has been
a huge pleasure, Gregory.
276
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A huge pleasure for me, too.
277
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Yeah, great meeting you both.
278
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Um...
279
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-Can I keep these?
-Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Go for it.
280
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Really appreciate it.
281
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-Thanks.
-Back at you.
282
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-All right. All right.
-See you later.
283
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Safe travels.
Thank you, Greg.
284
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It's not
definitely conclusive,
285
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but it was satisfying
to hear an opinion
286
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about what thesevideo images might be.
287
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Oh, my God. Holy [bleep]!
288
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I visited Area 51
with my partner, Jacqueline,
289
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about
two and a half years ago,
290
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and we went as close
as you can get
291
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till you start to see
threatening signs and...
292
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-Yeah.
-...guys staring back
at you from white SUVs
293
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who do not look like
they're welcoming visitors.
294
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No, and I would
never recommend
anyone to pass that line.
295
00:16:14,934 --> 00:16:19,500
I was at Area 51
right when it was coming
to people's attention.
296
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It's cool to feel like
I am a part of history.
297
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-[man] Hi.
-[Mitch] Hey.
298
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-[Chrissy] Hey.
-[Mitch] How's it going,
my man?
299
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-I couldn't help overhearing
all the talk of UFOs.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
300
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-[man] Unidentified
Flying Objects and...
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
301
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-I got a video, you guys
might wanna look at.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
302
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[woman] UFOs, man?
303
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-[child] What is that?
-[woman] Videotape it.
304
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-Are you videotaping?
-Yes, yes.
305
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-Where is this?
-This is going south on 285,
306
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-outside of--
-In here?
307
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-Yes, in Roswell.
-In Roswell?
308
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[Mitch] Roswell,New Mexico,
309
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is the world'scentral gathering spot
310
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for UFO
and alien experiencers.
311
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We were
constantly seeing them,
312
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and we don't know
what they are.
313
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[Mitch] The biggest storiesand groundbreaking reports
314
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are only possible
because of citizen seekers
315
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who step upto provide the evidence,
316
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and blow the whistle.
317
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[Chrissy] It's amazing.
Thank you very much.
318
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-[Mitch] We appreciate
seeing that, man.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
319
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This video
is pretty interesting.
320
00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,867
Yeah, from what I've heard,
and what I read is that
he did his own analysis.
321
00:17:36,867 --> 00:17:38,667
So I'm curious
to see what he said.
322
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-I'm curious to see
how he did his researching...
-Mm-hmm.
323
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-...compared to our research.
-For sure.
324
00:17:42,567 --> 00:17:43,567
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-Hear about that.
325
00:17:43,567 --> 00:17:45,867
-Hey, how are you, man?
-West. Nice to meet you.
326
00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:47,266
-West. Chrissy.
-Chrissy, nice to meet you.
327
00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:49,000
-Nice to meet you, too.
-[Mitch] Welcome.
328
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,200
-Thank you very much.
-Thanks for being here.
329
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,333
I'm excited to be here.
330
00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:53,033
I really appreciate you guys
looking into this with me.
331
00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:54,166
-[Mitch] Absolutely.
-[Chrissy] For sure.
332
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Please tell us, uh,
what transpired.
333
00:18:00,066 --> 00:18:01,300
[West] My name is West Decker.
334
00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:03,400
I'm from Fort Worth, Texas,
335
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,500
and I may be
a UFO experiencer.
336
00:18:09,867 --> 00:18:14,400
For most of my life,I have always been skeptical,
337
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,300
but I really got interested
in the UFO phenomenon
338
00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:22,567
when the big articles came outin The New York Times
339
00:18:22,567 --> 00:18:25,400
and we started seeing videos
from the Navy.
340
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We know that in some cases,
341
00:18:28,300 --> 00:18:31,166
these phenomena have
impacted military training,
342
00:18:31,166 --> 00:18:33,467
have then impacted
military readiness.
343
00:18:33,467 --> 00:18:35,767
[reporter] The committeealso heard from former pilots,
344
00:18:35,767 --> 00:18:38,200
who had witnessedUnidentified Flying Objects
345
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,000
they claimcouldn't be flown by humans.
346
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,266
Could a human survived
those G forces
347
00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:45,100
with known technology today?
348
00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:46,467
-[Mr. Graves] No.
-[CDR. Fravor Ret.] No,
349
00:18:46,467 --> 00:18:47,834
not for the acceleration rates
that we observed.
350
00:18:47,834 --> 00:18:51,600
Something clicked with me,
and I really got interested
351
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,166
in the whole topic
of the UFO phenomenon,
352
00:18:56,667 --> 00:18:58,700
and I did research,read the books
353
00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:00,967
and I became convinced
354
00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:02,567
that there's
something going on.
355
00:19:02,567 --> 00:19:03,834
I also became convinced
356
00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:05,100
that I have no idea
what it is.
357
00:19:09,867 --> 00:19:14,367
On January 7th, 2024,I had finished dinner,
358
00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:17,567
and at that time my dog
always wants to go out,
359
00:19:17,567 --> 00:19:19,333
so I walked out with him.
360
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,066
My kind of habitin the evening,
361
00:19:22,066 --> 00:19:25,000
is to just to scan the sky
and just look for movement.
362
00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:30,834
So I looked off
to the southwest.
363
00:19:30,834 --> 00:19:35,600
It was dusk and I could see
this bright white light.
364
00:19:38,033 --> 00:19:39,166
It was probably up in the sky
365
00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:41,000
for a goodtwo or three seconds
366
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,533
before I got my camera out
and started to record.
367
00:19:46,834 --> 00:19:48,800
Oh, my God,
I'm actually seeing something.
368
00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:50,667
This is happening.
369
00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:55,200
[Chrissy] So,
we cross-checked
our flight databases.
370
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,033
It showed an aircraft
in that area of the time
371
00:19:58,033 --> 00:20:00,700
that was traveling
at 20,000 feet,
372
00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:03,000
but...
373
00:20:07,166 --> 00:20:08,934
On January 7th, 2024,
374
00:20:08,934 --> 00:20:11,133
I looked off to the southwest.
375
00:20:11,133 --> 00:20:15,900
It was dusk and I could see
this bright white light.
376
00:20:18,467 --> 00:20:19,567
It was probably up in the sky
377
00:20:19,567 --> 00:20:21,266
for a goodtwo or three seconds
378
00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:23,867
before I got my camera out
and started to record.
379
00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:29,000
Oh, my God,
I'm actually seeing something.
380
00:20:29,567 --> 00:20:30,700
This is happening.
381
00:20:33,767 --> 00:20:35,400
I was blown away.
382
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,667
I mean, I... I...
at that moment in time,
383
00:20:37,667 --> 00:20:40,000
I didn't know what to think.
384
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,767
As it moved, it slowly grew,
385
00:20:43,767 --> 00:20:46,533
and then it
expanded out into this ring.
386
00:20:52,867 --> 00:20:57,734
It slowed down
and then... faded...
387
00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:01,033
and then it disappeared.
388
00:21:05,667 --> 00:21:08,133
There was thisprogression of thoughts
389
00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:09,800
and emotionsthat I went through.
390
00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:12,934
I immediately was in awe.
391
00:21:12,934 --> 00:21:16,000
My next thought was,
"What if it wasn't real?"
[laughs]
392
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,100
"What if it was
just something mundane"?
393
00:21:19,967 --> 00:21:23,734
If I'm gonnatry to get to the bottomof the sighting that I had,
394
00:21:23,734 --> 00:21:27,667
I think we should be
facts and evidence base.
395
00:21:27,667 --> 00:21:30,767
We've got to be real carefulbecause we could be missing
396
00:21:30,767 --> 00:21:32,867
some important evidence
397
00:21:32,867 --> 00:21:36,500
simply because
we're more prone
to a convenient answer.
398
00:21:39,467 --> 00:21:41,300
To me,I don't want "probably."
399
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,300
I wanna get
to the bottom of it.
400
00:21:48,734 --> 00:21:53,567
West, what are you hoping for
from our exchange today first?
401
00:21:53,567 --> 00:21:55,500
I want to know
what the truth is,
402
00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,934
as best as
we can figure it out.
403
00:21:57,934 --> 00:22:00,934
-Well, West,
we received your testimony...
-Yep.
404
00:22:00,934 --> 00:22:03,266
-...and your video evidence...
-Mm-hmm.
405
00:22:03,266 --> 00:22:05,166
...which Chrissy
has reviewed...
406
00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:07,033
-Oh, awesome.
-...with analysts,
407
00:22:07,033 --> 00:22:09,100
and she's going
to have some findings
408
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,600
-to disclose.
-Excellent.
409
00:22:12,467 --> 00:22:13,667
[narrator] West submitted
410
00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:16,000
a 67-second-longcell phone video
411
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,300
that he recorded onJanuary 7th, 2024,for analysis.
412
00:22:23,934 --> 00:22:26,734
So we look for a date,
time and location,
413
00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:28,600
photo and video evidence.
414
00:22:29,467 --> 00:22:32,200
We cross-checked
our flight databases.
415
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,400
It showed an aircraft
in that area of the time
416
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,100
that was traveling
at 20,000 feet,
417
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,600
but what you saw
was unlike an aircraft.
418
00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:49,367
[West] It wasn'ta plane for sure.
419
00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:53,133
It wasn't
anything conventional
that I'm used to seeing.
420
00:22:53,133 --> 00:22:54,734
We also looked
for mass sightings.
421
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,500
And we found a lot of
social media coverage.
422
00:23:00,367 --> 00:23:02,700
[woman]
What is this in the sky?
423
00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:05,600
[man] Oh, man, that's crazy.
424
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,166
[woman]
This is bananas right now.
425
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,667
There was multiple
UFO activity
426
00:23:13,667 --> 00:23:15,767
reported in North Texas,
427
00:23:15,767 --> 00:23:18,333
and there was a whole
bunch of media coverage.
428
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:25,166
So a lot of people saw that.
429
00:23:25,166 --> 00:23:26,967
Yeah, exactly.
430
00:23:26,967 --> 00:23:29,800
And then we cross-checked
rocket launch data.
431
00:23:31,367 --> 00:23:33,467
So what we did notice
432
00:23:33,467 --> 00:23:37,400
is that SpaceX launch occurred
on January 7th
433
00:23:37,934 --> 00:23:41,000
at 4:35Central Standard Time.
434
00:23:42,467 --> 00:23:45,300
[man at Space X]
Go, Falcon. Go, go!
435
00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:48,066
But it occurred
an hour and a half
before your sighting.
436
00:23:50,266 --> 00:23:51,600
The time doesn't match up.
437
00:23:52,567 --> 00:23:54,734
Yeah, exactly.
That was my confusion, too.
438
00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:58,400
The one thing, though,
that was really interesting,
439
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,600
and we were
a little bit boggled,
440
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000
was that the aura glow
that came off it,
441
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,600
and we're like,
"What is that?"
442
00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:13,166
From further analysis,
443
00:24:13,867 --> 00:24:15,266
we did conclude
444
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,400
it's a sound barrier
compression wave.
445
00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:24,066
[narrator] When an objectpasses through the air,
446
00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:26,166
it createsa series of pressure waves
447
00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:28,266
similar to the wavescreated by a boat.
448
00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:31,166
These waves travelat the speed of sound,
449
00:24:31,166 --> 00:24:33,834
and as the speed increases,the waves are compressed,
450
00:24:33,834 --> 00:24:37,634
which appears to bewhat was capturedin West's video.
451
00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:42,500
According to the data,
452
00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:48,133
it's SpaceX Falcon 9
rocket booster
453
00:24:49,166 --> 00:24:50,967
that was enteringthe atmosphere.
454
00:24:54,667 --> 00:24:59,233
It was a second stage
reentry of SpaceX Falcon 9.
455
00:25:02,166 --> 00:25:04,467
This particular
piece of evidence
456
00:25:04,467 --> 00:25:06,066
didn't capture a UFO.
457
00:25:12,033 --> 00:25:13,834
And I am
completely okay with that.
458
00:25:13,834 --> 00:25:15,300
I'm glad we found the answer.
459
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,767
And West,
your credibility
and reliability
460
00:25:20,767 --> 00:25:23,400
as a witness
is absolutely impeccable.
461
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,266
You've been completely
transparent, ethical,
462
00:25:27,266 --> 00:25:29,166
and when I first
saw the video,
463
00:25:29,166 --> 00:25:33,400
I was very excited because
it's very alluringly shot.
464
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,700
This is a remarkable video.
465
00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:38,000
Thank you.
466
00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:41,066
The fact that
it was something mundane
467
00:25:41,066 --> 00:25:44,200
doesn't make it
any less, uh, amazing to me.
468
00:25:45,266 --> 00:25:46,533
I'm so grateful
that you guys were able
469
00:25:46,533 --> 00:25:49,767
-to get that next level
of research, and...
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
470
00:25:49,767 --> 00:25:51,667
...and apply
that kind of rigor
471
00:25:51,667 --> 00:25:53,667
because I guessed that
that glow
472
00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:55,166
and that
diffused ring and stuff
473
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,000
were maybe a fuel dump, but...
474
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,066
That doesn't take away
from any of those
other experiences.
475
00:26:00,066 --> 00:26:01,500
Sure, and I appreciate that.
476
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,266
I am extraordinarily grateful
477
00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:08,934
for all the work
that you guys put into this,
478
00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:10,600
-tracking
the orbits like this...
-Yeah.
479
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,033
...that was one of the things
that I was missing
in my own research.
480
00:26:14,033 --> 00:26:15,834
That's just something
that's outside of my reach,
481
00:26:15,834 --> 00:26:17,834
so I'm really, uh, impressed,
482
00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:22,867
and to me,
it was more important
to find out what I saw
483
00:26:22,867 --> 00:26:24,967
than it was for me
to find what I wanted to see.
484
00:26:24,967 --> 00:26:27,667
-West, you are
a true citizen seeker.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
485
00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:29,166
-Thank you.
-[Mitch] And this has been
a great pleasure.
486
00:26:29,166 --> 00:26:30,867
-[both] Thank you.
-It's been my pleasure.
487
00:26:32,667 --> 00:26:34,100
-[Chrissy] Thanks, West.
-Thank you.
488
00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:39,200
Well, that is a man
who believes in
pure questioning.
489
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,133
One of the rarest
of all traits.
490
00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:42,867
This was the kind of help
I was looking for.
491
00:26:42,867 --> 00:26:44,667
Which was, you know,
having people
492
00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:47,400
who could find out
the answers that I couldn't.
493
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,266
Mitch and Chrissy
are so big in this field
494
00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:54,133
that even though mine
didn't turn out to be a UFO,
495
00:26:54,133 --> 00:26:56,500
it was like
an amazing experience.
496
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,600
We did a detail analysis
on your video.
497
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:09,333
We know it's not been fakedor altered in any way.
498
00:27:10,734 --> 00:27:12,100
One thing, though...
499
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,867
Everything that we do
is building a record,
500
00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:35,166
and everybody's got
different levels of evidence.
501
00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:36,000
Yeah.
502
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,400
I was like, "Mom,"
like, "Come here,
503
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,667
you have to see
what's outside,"
504
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:43,500
because it was
just such a weird,
translucent, whitish color.
505
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,066
Eventually, it just
disappeared into nothing.
506
00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:49,433
And I mean,
I had no idea what it was.
507
00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:51,166
I just don't have any data,
508
00:27:51,166 --> 00:27:53,166
and there's no hard science
for me to analyze,
509
00:27:53,166 --> 00:27:56,500
to say that
that is 100% real or accurate.
510
00:27:57,767 --> 00:28:00,166
[Mitch]
A lot of the experiencers
511
00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:03,100
that comes through the doorhere at the Variety
512
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,367
are peoplewith firsthand accounts.
513
00:28:06,367 --> 00:28:10,033
They cannot always providethe hard evidence
514
00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:14,133
that Chrissy and her teamrequire for analysis.
515
00:28:15,033 --> 00:28:16,100
Hey, Welcome.
516
00:28:16,567 --> 00:28:17,600
-Hey.
-Hey-hey.
517
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,066
-How's it going. Mitch.
-Hello.
518
00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:22,467
July of 2022, I was,
I think it was like 5:00 a.m.
519
00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:25,100
[Mitch] For me,this doesn't necessarily mean
520
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,600
that their accountcannot be taken seriously.
521
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,767
And so we all look up
and there's a dot in the sky,
522
00:28:32,767 --> 00:28:35,266
and then instantly
there is a craft
523
00:28:35,266 --> 00:28:38,467
in the yard, um,
in front of us.
524
00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:40,667
[Mitch] I listenwith a critical mind.
525
00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:44,033
I turned around and there was
a being at the foot of my bed
526
00:28:44,033 --> 00:28:45,967
who was about
three or four feet tall.
527
00:28:45,967 --> 00:28:48,467
It had the big eyes,
real spindly.
528
00:28:48,467 --> 00:28:51,000
-Looked like a kid.
-Mm-hmm.
529
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,767
Do they truly believewhat they saw was real?
530
00:28:54,767 --> 00:29:00,500
Um, but I guess
the biggest question
is like, "Why me?"
531
00:29:01,734 --> 00:29:04,100
[Mitch] And are theya credible witness
532
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,800
with respectto what they're saying?
533
00:29:06,867 --> 00:29:10,400
You've also, frankly,
put your own reputations
on the line.
534
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,734
-You're working people.
-[Chrissy] Oh, yeah.
535
00:29:11,734 --> 00:29:14,700
You have friends,
you have families,
you have work relationships.
536
00:29:16,767 --> 00:29:19,567
All of these factorshelp me determine
537
00:29:19,567 --> 00:29:23,266
where their story fallson the scale of fact.
538
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,033
Even though
there's no evidence,
I believe in the story
539
00:29:30,033 --> 00:29:31,634
that you are bringing
to the table.
540
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,133
[woman] Thank you.
541
00:29:38,867 --> 00:29:40,400
The bar is a great place,
542
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,367
which people
crisscross through.
543
00:29:42,367 --> 00:29:43,767
-Yeah.
-It's UFO junction.
544
00:29:43,767 --> 00:29:45,400
Oh, yeah, seriously.
545
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,100
-Everyone has a story...
-Yep.
546
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,300
...and this is the town
that UFOs built.
547
00:29:55,367 --> 00:29:57,967
What's your understanding of
the skinwalker? What is that?
548
00:29:57,967 --> 00:29:59,567
[Chrissy] With a skinwalker,
it can
549
00:29:59,567 --> 00:30:01,300
-shape-shift and transform.
-Mm-hmm.
550
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,200
One day it might be,
some will say that
they've seen a wolf
551
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,734
and then it can shape-shift
into something else.
552
00:30:05,734 --> 00:30:08,967
-Mm-hmm.
-So it's not really,
we don't know what it is.
553
00:30:08,967 --> 00:30:10,734
-Interesting.
-Yeah.
554
00:30:12,667 --> 00:30:14,266
Hey, man.
Good to see you. Ryan.
I'm Mitch.
555
00:30:14,266 --> 00:30:15,567
Hi. Chrissy. Nice to meet you.
556
00:30:15,567 --> 00:30:17,867
-Good to meet you both.
-[Mitch] Welcome.
557
00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:20,767
First and foremost,
we want to hear
558
00:30:20,767 --> 00:30:23,600
your account directly from you
559
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,400
to ensure that
we haven't missed anything.
560
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,400
So walk us through the events.
561
00:30:31,467 --> 00:30:33,133
[Ryan] My name is Ryan Burns.
562
00:30:33,834 --> 00:30:38,266
On June 17th, 2012, 12:36,
563
00:30:38,266 --> 00:30:42,500
I saw something that I could
not understand, comprehend,
564
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,200
and still wonder to this day
what I might have done.
565
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,567
I am a property manager.
566
00:30:51,567 --> 00:30:53,600
One of the propertiesshares a fence line
567
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,266
with Skinwalker Ranch upin the northeastern partof Utah.
568
00:30:58,934 --> 00:31:00,734
And there's
a lot going on there.
569
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,834
That whole area
has high strangeness appeal.
570
00:31:06,834 --> 00:31:10,100
That's where I had
one of the strangest events.
571
00:31:11,667 --> 00:31:13,934
I was on the propertywith a friend
572
00:31:13,934 --> 00:31:16,500
and he said, "Hey, you guys,
come check this out."
573
00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:19,667
When I went outside,
I immediately saw,
574
00:31:19,667 --> 00:31:22,900
for lack of a better word,
this tubular craft.
575
00:31:28,567 --> 00:31:30,600
It was directlyover our heads,
576
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,367
somewhere along the lines
of 2, 300 feet,
577
00:31:33,367 --> 00:31:34,834
so close enough to get a look,
578
00:31:34,834 --> 00:31:37,700
but far enough that
we couldn't tell what it was.
579
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,000
I ran back inside,grabbed the camcorder.
580
00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:45,867
When I zoomed inwith the camcorder
581
00:31:45,867 --> 00:31:48,066
is when we started
to really get an idea of,
582
00:31:48,066 --> 00:31:50,066
like, what this thing
might be made of.
583
00:31:52,066 --> 00:31:53,867
It looked likeit was something very solid,
584
00:31:53,867 --> 00:31:56,300
cylindricaland slightly moving up.
585
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:59,000
As I zoomed in
with the camcorder,
586
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,166
there was no signsof propulsion.
587
00:32:02,367 --> 00:32:05,367
It seemed to be rolling
or undulating,
588
00:32:05,367 --> 00:32:07,066
moving more in ways
589
00:32:07,066 --> 00:32:09,367
that were not
congruent with it
590
00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:11,800
being reflectiveand metallic looking.
591
00:32:12,867 --> 00:32:14,300
Whatever it was,it seemed like
592
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,266
it wasintelligently controlled,
593
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,667
almost more biological,
594
00:32:19,667 --> 00:32:24,166
as if it knew
it might be watched.
595
00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:26,300
You know, when the three of uswere pointing and talking,
596
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,900
it just rose
597
00:32:28,967 --> 00:32:30,400
until it was out of sight.
598
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,734
After it disappeared,
599
00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:40,166
we checkedall kinds of flight logs.
600
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:43,266
There seemed to be nothing
that matched this description.
601
00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:45,567
It falls into line
with a lot of
602
00:32:45,567 --> 00:32:48,166
strange descriptionsin the area.
603
00:32:49,266 --> 00:32:52,400
I honestly don't know
what we saw that day,
604
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,667
but there was a lotthat kinda pointed me
605
00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:56,000
in the directionof something...
606
00:32:57,567 --> 00:32:59,400
non-human.
607
00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:07,300
What is it you hope to gain
from our exchange today?
What are you looking for?
608
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,500
Um, any thoughts,
uh, theories.
609
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,066
What, you think, you know,
610
00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,600
what... what boxes it checks,
and which ones it doesn't.
611
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,500
Where it fits into
the whole scheme of things.
612
00:33:18,166 --> 00:33:20,266
I think the, uh,
the more experiences
613
00:33:20,266 --> 00:33:22,467
and opportunities
we have to see things
614
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,467
that are somewhat
anomalous in nature,
615
00:33:24,467 --> 00:33:28,066
-and I think there's more
to be gathered from it all.
-[Mitch] Hmm.
616
00:33:28,066 --> 00:33:33,000
We have received your accounts
and your evidence.
617
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,166
[narrator]
Ryan Burns submitteda 20-second long video
618
00:33:37,166 --> 00:33:39,767
of an objectflying over Skinwalker Ranch
619
00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:42,600
in Utah,that he filmed in 2012.
620
00:33:43,967 --> 00:33:47,266
Hopefully, Chrissy can shed
some significant light
621
00:33:47,266 --> 00:33:49,967
on these questions of yours.
622
00:33:49,967 --> 00:33:53,367
All right,
so let's just go through
the collected material.
623
00:33:53,367 --> 00:33:56,433
I have a video along with,
then your own testimony.
624
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,066
Some research that we did,
is we looked at
625
00:34:00,066 --> 00:34:02,033
the historical analysis
of the area
626
00:34:02,033 --> 00:34:03,066
and past sightings,
627
00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:07,834
we know that Skinwalker Ranch
in the Uinta Basin
628
00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:12,934
is filled with
tons of UFO sightings,
629
00:34:12,934 --> 00:34:14,734
high strangeness.
630
00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:18,967
[narrator] Locatedin northeastern Utah,
631
00:34:18,967 --> 00:34:20,667
Skinwalker Ranchhas been known
632
00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:23,600
for its UFO sightingsfor more than 50 years.
633
00:34:24,734 --> 00:34:28,166
In 2008, the DefenseIntelligence Agency created
634
00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:32,867
the Advanced Aerospace WeaponSystem Application Program
635
00:34:32,867 --> 00:34:35,133
and along withranch owner Robert Bigelow,
636
00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:37,100
they began researching UFOs
637
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,700
and other strange phenomenareported there.
638
00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:43,433
The program ended in 2012,
639
00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:46,400
and the resultsof the four-year study
640
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,100
led to the creationof the now declassified
641
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:52,333
Advanced AerospaceThreat Identification Program.
642
00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,867
So, we looked into that
and we did take it
into consideration.
643
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:03,333
We also did
a detailed analysis
on your video.
644
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,800
We know it's not been fakedor altered in any way.
645
00:35:11,367 --> 00:35:13,867
And then we did check
all UFO databases
646
00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:17,800
for aircraft
and unknown objects
in the sky.
647
00:35:20,066 --> 00:35:21,100
And we saw nothing.
648
00:35:22,266 --> 00:35:23,867
One thing, though...
649
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,066
When I first
saw the images and video,
650
00:35:30,066 --> 00:35:31,266
I thought,
"Ah, this is gonna be
651
00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,266
a weather balloon,
solar sail."
652
00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:35,300
You know,
something of that nature,
653
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,133
but I'm surprised as hell...
654
00:35:46,467 --> 00:35:51,266
2024 is the year
of disclosure.
655
00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:53,467
I'm here inRoswell, New Mexico,
656
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:57,567
home of the 1947UFO crash site,
657
00:35:57,567 --> 00:36:00,166
which has become a mecca
658
00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:03,867
for UFO
experiencers, and seekers.
659
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:09,300
The key to finding answers
lies within the people
660
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:13,667
who have experiencedthis phenomena firsthand.
661
00:36:13,667 --> 00:36:17,533
I'm hoping to find that
one true gem of evidence...
662
00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:28,834
I'm experiencing
chills over here.
663
00:36:28,834 --> 00:36:33,900
...that stands out
and rewrites history forever.
664
00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:41,467
When I went outside,
I immediately saw,
665
00:36:41,467 --> 00:36:42,567
for lack of a better word,
666
00:36:42,567 --> 00:36:45,266
this tubular craft.
667
00:36:45,266 --> 00:36:47,166
It was directly over our heads
668
00:36:47,166 --> 00:36:50,166
somewhere along the linesof 2, 300 feet.
669
00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:52,934
I honestly don't know
what we saw that day,
670
00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:55,066
but there was a lotthat kinda pointed me
671
00:36:55,066 --> 00:36:57,967
in the direction
of something non-human.
672
00:37:03,066 --> 00:37:07,133
We did a detailed analysis
on your video.
673
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,000
We know it's not been fakedor altered in any way.
674
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,834
We did check
all UFO databases,
675
00:37:14,834 --> 00:37:17,533
for aircraft,
and unknown objects.
676
00:37:20,767 --> 00:37:21,967
And we saw nothing.
677
00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:26,033
There wasn't any other
UFO connections
678
00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:29,066
or anything that was reported
with any other databases.
679
00:37:30,266 --> 00:37:32,133
Also, the movement was so slow
680
00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:35,500
that it does eliminate
any airplanes.
681
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,700
So, finally,
we had two analysts
look at this.
682
00:37:45,033 --> 00:37:46,700
They thought
that it could be...
683
00:37:49,734 --> 00:37:51,033
a solar balloon.
684
00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:55,934
That day, the temperatures
were in the mid-'90s,
685
00:37:55,934 --> 00:37:58,066
so it's a great condition
for that.
686
00:38:02,033 --> 00:38:04,567
[narrator] Solar balloonsare used to study the weather
687
00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:07,900
and for other airbornescientific investigations.
688
00:38:09,233 --> 00:38:12,867
One thing, though,
both analysts said
689
00:38:12,867 --> 00:38:16,367
there wasn't any
solar balloon launch data
at that point in time,
690
00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:20,400
so they couldn't prove
that it was a solar balloon.
691
00:38:23,567 --> 00:38:25,367
Definitely baffled.
692
00:38:25,367 --> 00:38:27,967
[Chrissy] The experts said
they're perplexed, too.
693
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:31,400
It's unidentified.
694
00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:35,867
Well, um,
I'm surprised as hell,
695
00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:38,767
you know, because
I have to be perfectly frank.
696
00:38:38,767 --> 00:38:41,233
When I first saw
the images and video,
697
00:38:41,233 --> 00:38:42,567
I thought,
"Ah, this is gonna be
698
00:38:42,567 --> 00:38:44,600
a weather balloon
solar sail."
699
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,567
You know
something of that nature
700
00:38:46,567 --> 00:38:49,967
but I'd have to say
701
00:38:49,967 --> 00:38:54,066
based on the material,
culture, locality,
702
00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:57,600
your credibility as a witness,
703
00:38:58,567 --> 00:39:00,867
the analysis from the experts,
704
00:39:02,767 --> 00:39:05,000
you saw a UFO.
705
00:39:07,467 --> 00:39:11,300
I mean, UFO in my mind
is something unidentified.
706
00:39:11,967 --> 00:39:14,133
It's quite common
to talk to people
707
00:39:14,133 --> 00:39:15,567
that experience
this sort of thing,
708
00:39:15,567 --> 00:39:19,767
but it's a lot harder
to actually have
analysts like that
709
00:39:19,767 --> 00:39:22,233
who are experienced,
to be able to actually
710
00:39:22,233 --> 00:39:25,133
view video evidence
and come away with that,
711
00:39:25,133 --> 00:39:27,367
so I think
it's really exciting.
712
00:39:27,367 --> 00:39:28,734
-[Mitch] Thank you, man.
-[Chrissy] Thank you.
713
00:39:28,734 --> 00:39:30,133
We appreciate
your sharing this
714
00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:31,266
and your stepping forward.
715
00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:32,367
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-Yeah, appreciate you both.
Thank you.
716
00:39:32,367 --> 00:39:33,867
-[Mitch] Yeah.
-[Chrissy] Nice to meet you.
717
00:39:36,133 --> 00:39:39,500
This is a field that comes
with a lot of doubt.
718
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:42,266
Now that the experts
have validated this,
719
00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:44,934
it assures methat I'm on the right path.
720
00:39:44,934 --> 00:39:46,567
You know, I'm gonna
keep doing what I'm doing.
721
00:39:46,567 --> 00:39:50,233
I'm gonna keep working
towards more disclosure.
722
00:39:50,233 --> 00:39:51,500
I was surprised.
723
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,166
I... Well,
it was hard decision.
724
00:39:53,166 --> 00:39:54,100
-I know it was.
-Yeah.
725
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,367
I really, really thought
you were gonna say,
726
00:39:56,367 --> 00:39:58,600
"Look,
this is a weather balloon.
This is a sail."
727
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,100
Something else.
I really, I was surprised.
728
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,834
You know, and we can't find
any other data in that region
729
00:40:04,834 --> 00:40:06,367
that says that
there was a plane
730
00:40:06,367 --> 00:40:08,500
or anything else
in that... in that area.
731
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,867
-Then to me, it says UFO.
-Yeah.
732
00:40:11,867 --> 00:40:17,367
So I have to go on the fact
that it's potentially
an Unidentified Flying Object.
733
00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:19,700
-Yeah, it's a UFO.
-Bravo.
734
00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,700
Well, another good night
at the Variety.
735
00:40:25,767 --> 00:40:27,266
-Yeah.
-One more joke for the road.
736
00:40:27,266 --> 00:40:28,066
Oh, man.
737
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:30,433
What do you find
on every alien farm?
738
00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:34,100
-I don't know.
-A tractor beam.
739
00:40:39,166 --> 00:40:41,667
I've been chasing a phenomenon
all of my life,
740
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:45,500
and we captured something
that I've never seen before.
741
00:40:46,867 --> 00:40:49,000
What the is [bleep] that?
742
00:40:50,066 --> 00:40:51,266
Wow.
743
00:40:51,266 --> 00:40:54,000
I... I don't understand
what it could have been.
744
00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:55,967
[man 1] We went to an event
745
00:40:55,967 --> 00:40:58,700
which is kind of
a meditational focused
746
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,667
intention to make contact
with extraterrestrials.
747
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,467
I was like,
"What the F is that?"
748
00:41:04,467 --> 00:41:06,233
[people exclaiming]
749
00:41:07,166 --> 00:41:08,467
Some part of me is just like,
750
00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:11,200
this experience
was not of this world.
751
00:41:13,266 --> 00:41:14,967
I saw things
I couldn't explain
752
00:41:14,967 --> 00:41:16,533
happening in the sky.
753
00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:19,100
-Holy [bleep].
-[man 2] It is gone.
754
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,500
-[woman exclaims]
-[man 4] Oh, my God.
755
00:41:21,867 --> 00:41:22,834
It's gone.
756
00:41:22,834 --> 00:41:26,467
I'm not entirely sure
what I saw that night,
757
00:41:26,467 --> 00:41:30,166
but I do know that I witnessed
something extraordinary.
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