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Morning, Squirtle.
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Good morning, my girlfriend.
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I saved you the Sunday crossword.
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Aww, you're so thoughtful.
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Oatmeal and soy sauce again?
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Mm-hmm. I love it.
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Well, everyone has their thing.
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Oh, could you grab me a pencil?
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I could, and I would,
and I would love to.
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?
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- What the...
- Oh!
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You found my moon landing literature.
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Fascinating, right?
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Melinda, do you think
the moon landing was faked?
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Uh, yeah, don't you?
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Come on, Adam, I thought
you questioned everything.
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I do, but this
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is a straight-up conspiracy theory.
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What's so bad about
conspiracy theories?
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- They can be fun.
- No, conspiracy theories are dangerous,
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and irrational and just plain wrong.
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The moon landing definitely happened.
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Oh yeah? Then prove it.
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I can't believe this,
but I guess I have to.
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Hi, I'm Adam Conover
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and this is "Adam Ruins Everything."
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Corrected & Synced by Bakugan
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Okay, explain it to me one more time.
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Why do you think
the moon landing was faked?
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We're both skeptics, right?
So think about it skeptically.
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There's no way NASA had the technology
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to go to the moon.
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They just filmed it on a sound stage,
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that would've been way easier.
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Yeah, that's what
conspiracy theorists think.
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But the truth is faking
the moon landing in 1969
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actually would have been harder
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than just going to the moon
in the first place.
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Here, I'll show you.
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Fake Moon Landing, take one.
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All right, in this scene
you're on the moon
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and it's real and we're fooling America
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and action!
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See? Stanley Kubrick just shot
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a guy jumping around on set
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and then they played it back on TV.
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Sorry, but given the filmmaking
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and lighting technology at the time,
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that actually wouldn't
have been possible.
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Right, the lighting.
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Look at how bright it is.
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Look at these shadows.
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This was clearly shot in a studio.
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(LIGHTS POWERING ON)
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(MAN) Actually...
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creating that lighting would've been
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essentially impossible in a studio.
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Melinda, meet Mark Schubin.
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He's a forensic motion picture analyst
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and an Emmy-winning light fellow
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of the Society of Motion Picture
and Television Engineers.
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Thanks, Adam. Using image forensics,
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I can tell you that the light source
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we see in the moon footage is actually
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parallel sun rays with no diffusion.
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If you look at the photos
from the Apollo mission,
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you can see that
all the shadows are parallel
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because the light source is
93 million miles away.
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(ADAM) But if you try to
recreate that same photo
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using studio lighting,
the shadows diverge.
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Huh... Back in the '60s,
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the only way to recreate
that effect would be
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to build a wall of millions
of laser lights
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so close together, they'd be like
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pixels on a TV screen.
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No, no, no, no, no!
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This lighting is all wrong!
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I need lasers, Peter! Lasers!
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But lasers back then
were big and costly,
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so rigging together
that many of that size
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would've required an enormous apparatus
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that probably would've cost more
than the entire Apollo project.
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Perfect! This is great!
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Now we just need
millions of these lasers.
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Oh, uh, I don't know
if that's in our budget...
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Or the country's.
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Honestly, Peter...
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you make me furious.
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(MARK) And in those days,
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the only lasers that were
practically available were red.
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Which means that color photos
we have from the moon landing
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would have been impossible.
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I can't shoot in red light!
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It makes this moon
look like a bordello!
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Correction! We need millions
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of ultra rare, multi-colored lasers.
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How do I explain... I mean,
that's not even a remotel...
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(HIGH-PITCHED VOICE) "How do I
explain... Even a remotely..."
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Go back to film school, Peter!
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Now today, we could recreate
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the correct lighting
with computer graphics.
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But in 1969, those didn't exist. Hmm.
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I've asked my colleagues in forensics
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and in movie production and
given the parallel light rays
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and the detailed color photos,
we just cannot think of
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any way they could've faked
the moon landing
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with the technology
they had at the time.
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- Hmm...
- Thanks, Mark.
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Convinced?
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Maybe that's what
they want you to think.
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What if NASA secretly
created computer graphics
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and just kept it from us for 40 years?
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Well, then an astronomical
number of people
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would've had to keep that secret.
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Like over 400,000 NASA employees...
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You want all 400,000 of us
to keep our mouths shut?
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- Yes, please.
- Good luck. We love gossip.
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(ADAM) ...Scientists from
Australia, Spain and England
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who said they independently picked up
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the moon landing
transmission from space...
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And why would we lie for you?
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You're always making fun
of our Vegemite.
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(ADAM) ...And the Russians,
our Space Race rivals
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who had every reason to prove us wrong.
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It's been 50 years, and we haven't even
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claimed that you faked it.
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You beat us fair and square this time.
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But we'll get you back... (SNICKERING)
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in 2016!
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But where's the tangible proof
that we went to the moon, huh?
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- There isn't any.
- Actually, there is.
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While the astronauts were on the moon,
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they laid out a reflective material
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called retro reflectors.
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So today, when an observatory on Earth
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aims a high-powered laser at them,
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it bounces right back.
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Cut! Cut! Shut it down!
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This is impossible!
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Oh, no, no, no! Wait!
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It still could have been faked.
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All you'd have to do is
secretly develop
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computer graphics technology
decades ahead of its time,
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convince multiple governments
to lie on our behalf,
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and then somehow get retro reflectors
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to the moon without
actually going there.
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You could that, right?
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Forget it, lady. It'd be easier to
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put a man on the moon.
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At the end of the day,
the evidence against
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the hoax hypothesis is so overwhelming,
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you just have to accept
the simpler explanation.
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In 1969, humans landed on the moon.
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Nope.
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- What?
- I'm not convinced.
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But I gave you facts, and an expert
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and a comprehensive list of citations.
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I'm sorry, it just feels fishy to me.
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Why are you so upset
I believe this anyway?
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It's not like
conspiracy theories hurt anyone.
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Oh, no, that's not true.
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Conspiracy theories can destroy lives.
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We're not making it to the
farmers market today, are we?
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No, we're not.
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I can't believe you still think
the moon landing was faked.
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Come on, what's the big deal?
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Conspiracy theories are harmless.
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No, they definitely aren't.
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Let me tell you the story
of one conspiracy theory
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that destroyed dozens of lives.
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And to do it, we'll have
to go back to the 1980s.
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?
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Aww, no rad '80s wardrobe?
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Sorry, how about a scrunchie?
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Ooh, thank you!
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Aww, what a cute little daycare center.
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(CHILDREN GIGGLING)
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This daycare center is a conspiracy
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to abduct children and use them
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as blood sacrifices
for Satanic rituals!
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Okay, well that is clearly insane.
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Yep, but at the time most of America
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actually believed it.
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There is no question that something
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is going on out there.
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(REPORTER) Nationwide, we found that
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minor cases of Satanic activity
light up the map.
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These 12-year-old boys
with their parents' consent
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demonstrated how they were taught
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to inflict pain on their enemies.
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(REPORTER #2) Contemporary
Satanism relies heavily
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on bizarre and sometimes
bloody ceremonies.
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The ideal sacrifice, we are told,
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apparently requires babies.
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Oh! Oh yeah! Tuck...
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Sorry, taped over my Jazzercise video.
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It may seem silly today,
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but at the time a survey found
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that 70% of Americans believed
Satanic ritual abuse was real.
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But after investigating
the matter for a decade,
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the FBI reported...
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(CAMERAS CLICKING)
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(SLURPING)
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Baby breeding?
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So were the babies
breeding with each other?
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Or... Wait, no, this is crazy.
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Why did so many people believe this?
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Well, the whole Satan-palooza started
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because one guy lied to get attention.
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Typical.
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(ADAM) In 1972, a man named Mike Warnke
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wrote a memoir called
"The Satan Seller"
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about his supposed past
in an evil Satanic cult.
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- That's gross.
- And a lie.
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In 1992, investigative journalists
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exposed Warnke as a total fraud.
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And now he's a stand-up comedian.
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What is daylight savings time?
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And if we're saving so much of it,
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- who's got it all?
- (CRICKETS CHIRPING)
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Ugh, I think I liked
his old stuff better.
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Well, it was too late.
Warnke's fake memoir
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went viral and inspired copycats.
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"Satanic cults are
kidnapping our children
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for blood sacrifices"?
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And it's happening
in our daycare centers!
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- What?
- (MELINDA) Yeah, about that...
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- Why daycare centers?
- Well, daycares were
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a relatively new industry in the '80s
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and a lot of people weren't
comfortable with the idea.
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So when the Satanic Panic hit,
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they were the perfect scapegoats.
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Why do you wanna take care
of kids so bad, huh?
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So you can fatten 'em up
for Beelzebub's barbeque?
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She's a Satanist.
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No, I'm Episcopalian!
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Conspiracy theorists started
targeting daycare workers
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and unfortunately, so did the police.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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(ADAM) Of course, police couldn't
find any physical evidence
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of Satanic rituals at daycare centers.
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So instead, they relied on
statements made by kids.
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(SNIFFS)
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No goats blood, no baby's bones.
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Guess we're gonna have to...
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interrogate small children.
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(ADAM) Some cops were so
convinced the cults were real,
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they questioned kids over and over
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until they got the answers they wanted.
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I have to go, I have to go!
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Well, you can go "potty"
after you admit
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your teacher's a Satanist, Anne.
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Okay, she worships the devil
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and then I saw her kissing the devil
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and she got meetings with the devil!
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- I knew it, you freak!
- No, no, no!
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Come on, let's go!
Wait, I'm an Episcopalian!
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This practice quickly
spun out of control
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and childcare providers
across the country
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were falsely accused of Satanic abuse.
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In total, more than
70 people were convicted
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for horrific crimes they didn't commit.
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- 70?
- They were later exonerated,
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but not before some had spent
more than 20 years in prison.
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They lost their homes,
their businesses, their freedom,
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all because of one conspiracy theory
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that was never even remotely true.
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- That's terrible.
- Yeah, it is.
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The stark truth is
this old-fashioned witch hunt
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actually happened in America
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just a handful of years ago.
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We'd all love to believe
that conspiracy theories
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are just harmless ideas
held by a few silly kooks.
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But if we're not careful,
they can take over
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the minds of the entire nation
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and lead us to persecute
our own fellow citizens.
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You're right.
Ideas can really hurt people.
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We have to be sure
what we believe is true.
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Good. I'm so glad that y...
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And I'm not sure we landed on the moon.
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Really? Still?
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Adam, let it go.
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I'm just too skeptical
and rational to believe it.
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No, you don't believe it
because you're just the victim
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of the human brain's faulty wiring.
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And that's what makes
everyone susceptible
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to conspiracy theories.
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Even you.
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I'm so sorry.
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Adam, just drop it.
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You're not gonna convince me
the moon landing wasn't faked.
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I've thought it through,
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and it's the most rational conclusion.
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No, I'm afraid it isn't.
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Conspiracy theories feel
like they're rational,
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but that's because our brains
are hardwired in a way
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that causes us to make
cognitive mistakes.
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Humans are generally very good
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at understanding the world around us.
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We look for cause and effect,
we seek out patterns,
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and we ask why events happened
and who caused them.
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But those same impulses are also
subject to cognitive biases that
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can cause us to come up with
incorrect theories about the world.
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For example...
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It makes us uncomfortable
when events are random
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so we tend to look for patterns
where they don't exist.
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Place your bets.
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?
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Huh, it's been red the last ten times.
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We're due for a black!
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Put it all on black, baby!
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- Red.
- Ah, Spritz!
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We're also subject to what's
called intentionality bias.
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That means when something
negative happens to us,
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even when it's an accident,
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we tend to assume that
someone did it intentionally.
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I'm sorry, it got damaged in shipping.
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The postal service
did this on purpose...
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because they want me to pay
extra for mail insurance!
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I'm onto your scheme!
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On top of this, we're also victim
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to proportionality bias.
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Our brains crave a balance
of cause and effect
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so when an event is huge and shocking,
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we need the cause to be
just as huge and shocking.
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Breaking news! A Malaysian plane
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carrying over 200 passengers
has inexplicably
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gone lost at sea!
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What? I can't live in a world
where planes just malfunction
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and disappear for no reason!
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There's gotta be something
bigger behind it!
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When major events are truly
random, it unnerves us.
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And our cognitive biases
start to take over.
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We begin to see patterns,
causes and effects,
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and shadowy actors where none exist.
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Engine failure is too simple.
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Maybe it got sucked into a black hole
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put there by the US government
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working... with Elvis!
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And when we're afraid
the effect intensifies.
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Research suggests that when
people feel threatened
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or out of control,
they become more prone
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to conspiratorial thinking.
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And there's evidence that's why both
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Republicans and Democrats
become more susceptible
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to conspiracy theories
when their party loses power.
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_
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How deep does this thing go?
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And that's why conspiracy theories
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tend to form around
large, terrifying tragedies.
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For example...
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when JFK was assassinated,
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it was such a random
and horrific event,
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people couldn't believe
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it was the work of just one man.
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(GASPS) The president was killed?
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It couldn't have been
just one crazy guy.
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There must be more to it!
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But when Ronald Reagan was shot,
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there were no prominent
conspiracy theories.
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Why?
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Because Reagan didn't die.
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This made the event less shocking,
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which made it easier to accept
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the consensus explanation.
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Proportionality bias in action.
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Huh, the president was mildly injured.
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It sounds like it was
just one crazy guy
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and there's nothing more to it.
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These biases are a natural part
of human cognition,
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which means conspiratorial thinking
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isn't just for a few crazies
in tinfoil hats.
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We're all subject to it.
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51% of Americans still believe
in some JFK conspiracy theory.
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Take position on the grassy knoll.
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And over a fifth of Americans believe
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a UFO crashed at Roswell.
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(BOTH) I knew they were real!
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The fact is, there's a little
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conspiracy theorist in all of us.
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What if Melinda's right?
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Maybe the moon landing was faked
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and my show's just being controlled
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by the Illuminati!
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But we have to resist that voice,
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- because if we don't...
- No!
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I'm the only one that sees
through the looking glass, man!
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Wake up, sheeple!
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The wool is being pulled over your eyes
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and they're knitting
a sweater out your brain.
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Whew, looks like
I'm gonna need some help.
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- Hey, Adam.
- (GASPS) Lizard-person!
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No, Melinda, this is Dr. Dan Jolley.
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He's a lecturer at
Staffordshire University
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in the UK and an expert,
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in the psychology
of conspiracy theories.
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Melinda, it's true.
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We're all prone to
conspiratorial thinking.
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And the danger is that kind
of thinking can erode
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your trust in institutions
and the people around you.
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For example, if you
think the government
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is all plots and schemes,
you'll feel like
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nothing you do will make a difference.
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So you're less likely to vote.
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Elections are all controlled
by the Bilderbergers.
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And exposure to conspiracy theories
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can also make you less likely
to trust basic science.
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- Global warming's a hoax.
- And you'll be less likely
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to rely on proven medical treatments
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in favor of hoax remedies.
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That's a Masonic symbol! I know it is.
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The truth is, conspiratorial thinking
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actually reduces your power
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to change the world for the better.
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You begin to doubt everyone.
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Your friends, your family,
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even trusted sources
like the newspaper.
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And that's the greatest irony of all.
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I wonder if they're coming back.
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Now the truth is there are
real people in power
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who are trying to harm us
for their benefit.
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But they're not some shadowy cabal
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controlling our brains from a pyramid.
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Real conspiracies are things like
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a California labor union
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that secretly misappropriated funds,
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uncovered by Paul Pringle
in the "LA Times."
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Or how regulators in Florida
kept bad insurers open
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so the state wouldn't have to pay,
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as reported on by Paige St. John
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of the "Sarasota Herald-Tribune."
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Or take any of
the marketing conspiracies
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we've talked about on our show
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which were originally uncovered
by scholars and journalists.
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Huh... It is so important
to think critically
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and question common wisdom.
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But if you fall victim to these
insidious thought patterns
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and start distrusting
everyone and everything,
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you could end up disbelieving
the hardworking people
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who expose actual conspiracies.
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And that takes you
further from the truth.
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Not closer to it.
447
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You know what? I never
thought about it like that.
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You're right.
I don't want to live in a world
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where I don't trust anything.
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So, okay. I'm not gonna believe
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in any of those conspiracy theories.
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Oh, Melinda, I'm so happy to hear that.
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Just the moon landing. What?
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But I did the whole episode!
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That's how it's supposed to work!
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Didn't I change the way
you see everything?
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No.
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This has never happened before!
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Is my whole show a lie?
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Am I the one being ruined?
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(WHEEZING) Okay, just calm down
and let's talk this through.
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Oh, boy.
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?
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Hello, everybody,
we are here behind the scenes
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on "Adam Ruins Everything."
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I am with Dr. Dan Jolley because I have
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way more questions for him
about his work.
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Thanks for the invite, it's so exciting
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to be here and talk to you
and your audience.
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Now, I understand
from what you've told me
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and I find this fascinating,
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that people who believe
in conspiracy theories
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can actually believe in two
that contradict each other.
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It may sound really wacky when
you first say it like that,
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but it's all based around your beliefs.
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If your central belief is that maybe
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you distrust the government,
it doesn't necessarily matter
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that the conspiracy theories
are contradictory
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as long as they support
that central belief.
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Earlier on our show, we talk about how,
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well, if NASA faked the moon landing,
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the theory there is that,
oh, they didn't have
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the technology,
they weren't able to do it.
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But then if you require that,
they actually have
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amazing filmmaking faking technology.
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Those two ideas conflict.
Either they...
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Yeah.
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Have a high level
of technology or they don't,
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but if you're distrustful
of the government,
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maybe you'll overlook
that contradiction...
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Absolutely.
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As long as it makes sense
in the middle,
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you can endorse
multiple different things.
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People ask me sometimes,
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I've actually gotten this question,
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my family member or a loved one
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has really gone down the rabbit hole
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of conspiracy theories
and they're saying crazy stuff.
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How do I get through to them?
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How do I talk to that family member?
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I think the first thing
to really appreciate
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is why that person may believe
in that conspiracy theory.
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That person may be just thinking
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about their viewpoint,
and not necessarily
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00:20:52,069 --> 00:20:53,335
thinking about the other facts.
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So you could maybe sort
of ask them questions...
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- Rather than saying,
- Yeah.
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"Hey, this is wrong.
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Don't believe this."
Instead you could say,
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"Hey, have you thought
about looking into
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the author of this piece,
who's running this website?"
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I like that a lot... So that
actually makes sense to me.
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00:21:08,018 --> 00:21:09,885
It's very much a trial
and error at this point.
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It's still kind of... It's a new field,
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understanding how to combat this.
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00:21:13,557 --> 00:21:16,157
Because only a few years ago,
we thought they were harmless.
517
00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:18,493
Now more research
and others are showing
518
00:21:18,495 --> 00:21:19,995
that actually they're quite harmful.
519
00:21:19,997 --> 00:21:21,563
It's thinking of, "What can we do?"
520
00:21:21,565 --> 00:21:23,632
So a bit of research
that I have is that
521
00:21:23,634 --> 00:21:25,934
if you give someone
a counter-argument...
522
00:21:25,936 --> 00:21:27,269
So for example,
523
00:21:27,271 --> 00:21:30,372
the factual information
about vaccines...
524
00:21:30,374 --> 00:21:33,708
First, followed by
the conspiracy account,
525
00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:36,278
this appears to give someone a shield
526
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,712
against the conspiracy theory.
527
00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:40,815
It seems to improve their
intentions to vaccinate.
528
00:21:40,817 --> 00:21:45,153
However, if you give someone
the conspiracy theory first,
529
00:21:45,155 --> 00:21:48,156
followed by that factual information,
530
00:21:48,158 --> 00:21:51,493
it doesn't appear to work.
Huh, so it's... If you...
531
00:21:51,495 --> 00:21:53,628
If someone hears
the conspiracy theory first
532
00:21:53,630 --> 00:21:55,563
and then the correction,
they maybe still have
533
00:21:55,565 --> 00:21:56,865
the conspiracy theory
bouncing around in their heads.
534
00:21:56,867 --> 00:21:59,668
Absolutely. Once it's established,
535
00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:01,536
it takes over our belief system.
536
00:22:01,538 --> 00:22:05,006
And it's potentially quite
resistant to correction.
537
00:22:05,008 --> 00:22:07,742
And research has shown
that even just reading
538
00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:10,645
about conspiracy theories
can change the way you think
539
00:22:10,647 --> 00:22:12,013
without you being aware. Wow.
540
00:22:12,015 --> 00:22:15,317
It's showing the hidden impact
of conspiracy theories.
541
00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:17,118
It often seems like the people who are
542
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,920
promoting the conspiracy theories
543
00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,722
make the movies that are fun to watch
544
00:22:20,724 --> 00:22:22,090
or the YouTube videos
545
00:22:22,092 --> 00:22:23,358
or they give the inflammatory talks.
546
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:24,726
And the people giving
the true information
547
00:22:24,728 --> 00:22:26,995
need to step up
and make our information
548
00:22:26,997 --> 00:22:29,331
more fun to experience. Absolutely.
549
00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:31,599
And that potentially is one way forward
550
00:22:31,601 --> 00:22:33,101
'cause it is difficult, really,
551
00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:35,203
to kind of get that information across
552
00:22:35,205 --> 00:22:38,206
in an accessible, engaging,
but accurate way.
553
00:22:38,208 --> 00:22:39,874
So even your show is a perfect example
554
00:22:39,876 --> 00:22:42,711
- of trying to do that...
- We do our best.
555
00:22:42,713 --> 00:22:45,347
Getting across the psychology
and all the kind of biases
556
00:22:45,349 --> 00:22:47,816
as a way to make it
accessible to the audience.
557
00:22:47,818 --> 00:22:49,951
Well, thank you so much
for coming on the show, Dan.
558
00:22:49,953 --> 00:22:51,720
Well, thank you for inviting
me, it's been great.
559
00:22:51,722 --> 00:22:53,588
And now, more "Adam Ruins Everything."
560
00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:58,693
(HEAVY BREATHING)
561
00:22:58,695 --> 00:23:00,528
Here, breathe into this.
562
00:23:00,530 --> 00:23:02,464
Actually... most studies...
563
00:23:02,466 --> 00:23:03,631
advise against...
564
00:23:03,633 --> 00:23:04,933
using a paper bag...
565
00:23:04,935 --> 00:23:07,435
to treat hyperventilation.
566
00:23:07,437 --> 00:23:10,071
Adam, why do you do this?
567
00:23:10,073 --> 00:23:12,807
Why can't you just let it go one time?
568
00:23:12,809 --> 00:23:14,175
I don't believe in the moon landing.
569
00:23:14,177 --> 00:23:15,443
So what if I'm wrong?
570
00:23:15,445 --> 00:23:18,346
Because then you won't know the truth.
571
00:23:18,348 --> 00:23:19,981
And it's always better to know.
572
00:23:19,983 --> 00:23:23,752
Otherwise you're just going
through life being wrong.
573
00:23:23,754 --> 00:23:27,489
Adam, maybe everything
you said is true.
574
00:23:27,491 --> 00:23:30,358
But I'm not just
some person on your show.
575
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,093
I'm your girlfriend.
576
00:23:32,095 --> 00:23:34,062
Sometimes you're gonna think I'm wrong,
577
00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:36,464
and you're just gonna have
to be okay with that.
578
00:23:36,466 --> 00:23:40,168
But... I've never done that before.
579
00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:42,103
I don't even know if I can.
580
00:23:42,105 --> 00:23:45,273
I mean, you believe
the moon landing was faked!
581
00:23:45,275 --> 00:23:47,442
And you eat oatmeal
with soy sauce on it.
582
00:23:47,444 --> 00:23:49,344
Same thing. I don't think it is.
583
00:23:49,346 --> 00:23:51,513
Adam, I've tried it. It is.
584
00:23:51,515 --> 00:23:56,051
Hey, can you do this?
Can you let it go?
585
00:23:57,721 --> 00:24:02,057
Okay. I'll try. For you.
586
00:24:02,059 --> 00:24:04,993
Great, thank you.
587
00:24:04,995 --> 00:24:06,327
?
588
00:24:06,329 --> 00:24:08,229
Now I gotta check my horoscope.
589
00:24:08,231 --> 00:24:10,231
Mercury's in retrograde!
590
00:24:10,233 --> 00:24:12,500
?
591
00:24:14,871 --> 00:24:16,704
?
592
00:24:16,706 --> 00:24:19,641
Hello? Hello?
593
00:24:19,643 --> 00:24:20,975
Can anyone help me?
594
00:24:20,977 --> 00:24:23,711
I seem to be stuck
in this woman's brain.
595
00:24:23,713 --> 00:24:27,267
Wow, she spends a lot of time
thinking about fountains.
596
00:24:27,317 --> 00:24:31,867
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