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hello and welcome to tech deals computer

gaming has a long and story history

going back well before ibm itself

launched the pc in 1981.

most people today who want to play games

on their pc have a dedicated graphics

card to render the amazing 3d images

that we all take for granted today

most but not all

some people play games on integrated

graphics built into the cpu or even

their motherboard if we're going back a

few years and for some games this works

better than you might think this is

battlefield 5 at 1080p low detail in

multiplayer conquest it's not running at

60 frames per second but it's not that

far off and most importantly it's

running smoothly you can think the 8 zen

3 cores on the cpu for that last part

more on that in a minute

this pc does not have a graphics card it

is running on the vega 8 graphics built

right into the 5700g cpu and i was able

to play a full battle it was totally

controllable and the input lag was

manageable this isn't suitable for super

competitive gamers but for casual fans

who just want to blast things it works

perfectly fine

i start off showing you that because

it's all too easy to dismiss integrated

graphics as useless for real gaming

whatever that is supposed to mean of

course a dedicated graphics card is

going to provide far superior graphical

detail and performance but not everyone

has the luxury of using one

today i've got 35 games to show you

across all levels of playability graphic

settings and even ram speed settings we

have new aaa games old aaa games free to

play games from multiple eras classic

games and more this video is meant to be

a definitive guide of the ryzen 7 5700

g's gaming performance good

bad and everything in between now this

will be a long video so please sit back

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battlefield 5 at the start of the video

let's look at another game that is super

playable call of duty infinite warfare

this is also 1080p low detail just like

battlefield 5 was however we now have an

average frame rate of 80 frames per

second and a one percent low near 60

frames per second this is solid

performance and it still looks decent at

low detail you could crank this up to

medium if you're okay to trade some

performance for visual detail to be fair

infinite warfare came out in 2016 so

that helps a lot when it comes to

performance battlefield 5 came out in

2018 which is the primary reason why it

runs slower

switching back to battlefield 5 one key

point i want you to notice is the cpu

usage it ranges from thirty percent to

fifty percent which is anywhere from

five to eight of the cores on the 5700 g

anything over fifty percent is in the

hyper threading so the game runs

smoothly not because of the eye gpu but

because of the cpu if we slide infinite

warfare onto the right side of the

screen you can easily compare the cpu

usage between these two games 2016 games

only used 2-4 cores while 2018 and

beyond games really did start to use

more than four

keep in mind that if the cores aren't

needed you can get almost the same

performance here out of a ryzen 7 5600g

which has the same basic design with

three key changes the 5600g has six

cores versus the eight cores on the 5700

g it has 200 megahertz lower boost

frequency and it has vega 7 graphics

instead of vega 8 graphics which simply

means it runs games 14 slower all else

being equal

i haven't done a review of the 5600g and

honestly i'm not going to not because

it's terrible but because one of the key

advantages of these cpus is the ability

to buy now use the integrated graphics

and then add a dedicated graphics card

later when the budget allows

six core cpus first launched more than a

decade ago in the consumer space from

intel in the form of the i7 980x and amd

in the form of the phenom 2x6

they entered the mainstream starting

with the i7 5820k in 2014 and a huge way

with the ryzen 5 1600 in 2017

i am firmly of the opinion that for

gaming pcs six core chips are at the end

of their era eight cores minimum is

where you want to be for a brand new

build and if we're being honest that's

the entry level for a premium build 16

cores are where it's at going into 2023.

now i know some of you will disagree

with me here and that is absolutely fine

it's your money spend it however you

like i will just say this

i've been working in the computer field

for 31 years i started my first computer

company 26 years ago i've seen a lot of

changes and trends over that time i'm

giving you my experienced and

professional opinion based upon that

background do with it what you will

before we jump to a lot of benchmarks

including more live gameplay than

typical for a video like this let me run

down the details and features of the

ryzen 7 5700g

if you know this stuff already you can

skip to the xcom2 benchmark in the

timestamp below the ryzen 7 5700g

launched in april of 2021 for oems and

august of 2021 in a retail box for

consumers at an msrp of 359

it can be purchased for about 250 in the

summer of 2022.

it contains eight zen3 cores that are

hyper threaded giving us a total of 16

threads to work with and a max turbo

frequency out of the box of 4.6

gigahertz the cpu is unlocked so if you

have solid cooling you can improve this

however there really aren't a lot of

gains to be had here 4.8 gigahertz is

typically the most you'll get and that's

with more effort than is worthwhile so

run it at stock

the cpu has 24 pci express lanes with 16

going to the first gpu slot which we're

not using here because we're using

integrated graphics but future

upgradability

four going to the first m.2 slot on your

am4 board for an nvme drive and four is

going directly to the chipset now this

is important these are gen three lanes

one step down from the gen four lanes of

non-g ryzen 5000 series cpus so a ryzen

7 5700 x has effectively the same cores

at the same speed with the same number

of pci express lines however those are

gen 4 lanes on the x chip but it lacks

integrated graphics which is what the g

chip offers to be blunt if you cared

you'd be buying a ryzen 9. so don't

worry too much about the pci express

lanes this is for a budget build you're

not putting an rtx 3090 in here or you

shouldn't be

the built-in graphics are referred to as

radeon vega 8 graphics by amd however

these are rather old graphics scores at

this point really not worthy of the zen

3 cpu cores that are themselves awesome

the next gen of cpus referred to as zen4

are coming to the new am5 platform and

they are expected to have rd and a2

based graphics

and probably cost a lot more to boot so

we shall see what the value equation is

there when that launches the integrated

graphics can be overclocked it runs at 2

gigahertz out of the box and many people

like to think that ram speed makes a

huge difference since we don't have

dedicated gddr5 or gddr6 helping with

memory bandwidth more on that in a

minute with some memory benchmarks

the 5700g does come with a cooler in the

box however you'd be well served to buy

something better a 20 deep cool gamex

400 would be a solid improvement over

the cooler in the box for the record we

used a scythemugan 5 cooler for the

testing that we did today which is a

more expensive but it's a nicer cooler

overall highly recommended we have to

talk about motherboard support because

this is one key area that has changed

dramatically since the zen3 cpu's

launched at launch they only officially

supported the 500 series motherboards

the a520 the b550 and the x570 chipsets

since then amd has added official

support for zen 3 cpus at the discretion

of motherboard manufacturers who have to

do the actual bios updates to enable

support on the entire line of

motherboards 300 400 and 500 series

boards by this point in the summer of

2022 most motherboards now support these

cpus however you'll need to do a bios

update and doing so will be different

for every board

some can make a single leap to the

latest bios some need to be stair

stepped up to the newest version one two

or three versions at a time

be aware that you can brick your

motherboard with a bad bios update so

watch our bios upgrade guide if you're

not familiar with how to do this all of

the testing that you will see today was

done on this asus rog strix

x470-f motherboard on our test bench

right back there you can see the

cyclugen5 sticking up over the box

why not test on our x 570 test bench the

msi x570 ace motherboard you can see

that test bench right back over there

that's our zen 3 test bench and

unfortunately this motherboard lacks a

video out to use for integrated graphics

now i assume that msi figured that no

one was going to install a cpu without a

dedicated graphics card on a 400

motherboard yes this was insanely

expensive when it launched and normally

they'd be right unless of course you're

a tech youtuber and you need to

benchmark stuff most of the testing

today was done with 32 gigabytes of ddr4

3600 cl18 that is our current

recommendation for ram in both size and

speed for most people given the market

today

everything was at 1080p resolution with

detail settings and render resolutions

changing to suit the games tested what

follows now is a lot of benchmarks of

live gameplay rather than canned

benchmarks the results for all of which

will be in charts later in the video

however there is great value in seeing

the actual gameplay rather than just a

number so you can judge for yourself how

well everything runs

let's move on to a game that surprised

me and how poorly it ran xcom 2. this

game launched in 2016 and it should be

fairly easy to run right

shockingly not really you're watching

1080p at minimum detail and it's really

not very smooth you could play it

however it has a lag and a stutter to

the gameplay that i really wasn't

expecting

side note i have over 1300 hours of

playtime in xcom 2. so i really love

this game the modding scene for the game

is awesome with hundreds and hundreds of

amazingly detailed mods for this game

moving on to another game that ran way

worse than expected cities skylines now

in fairness the detail settings here are

not at their lowest level and i am using

a large and well built out city for

testing however this is just absolutely

terrible

sure it's functional it's a city builder

you can pause and slow down the game but

what is really needed here is a smaller

city lower detail settings and a

dedicated graphics card so why didn't i

reload it at minimum detail

time is always working against me i

tested 35 games here trying multiple

detail settings turns into a pretty big

time sync

let's move on to something that runs way

better apex legends this isn't a game

that i cover very often but i thought it

might run well on this cpu 1080p low

detail 100 render and yeah this is not

bad it's not ideal for competitive

players but it's absolutely fine for

casual gamers it was smooth responsive

and had no issues with frame times lag

or gameplay other than of course my own

lack of skill in these sorts of games

since i'm no longer 20 and don't have 57

hours a week to get good

defense grid 2 is the tower defense

sequel to the critically acclaimed

defense grid awakening if you've never

played a tower defense game start with

the first one it's probably one of the

best such games in history at least i'd

put it at number one on my list and i've

played more than a few the first game

launched in 2008 the sequel defense grid

2 which you're watching here launched in

2014 not as popular perhaps but still a

lot of fun to play it plays very well

here at 1080p high detail

fortnite is one of the most popular

online games in the world and as you can

see runs very nicely here this is 1080p

a medium detail render was set manually

to a hundred percent as it defaults

lower at medium performance mode was not

turned on however if you're a

competitive player doing so will double

these frame rates at the cost of visual

detail

fortnite is a great example of a game

that will run on almost anything at some

level and it shows why you don't have to

spend all the money in the world just to

have fun while gaming

world of warships is another great

example of a game that you can spend

endless hours playing for free or nearly

for free since a premium account goes a

long way towards advancement

this is 1080p high detail and it runs

great 60 frames per second in most

situations rarely dropping below

smooth and easy to control if you love

world war one and world war ii naval

combat and you want a game that does a

decent job of simulating the ships if

not actual naval combat itself give

world of warships a try star wars the

old republic is one of the last big

budget mmos to launch way back in 2011.

i used to live stream this game on

twitch and i have an absolutely stupid

number hours of playing it it may very

well be my most played game of all time

putting all of that aside you're

watching 1080p high detail which might

seem easy to run for a 2011 game however

it has received several patches and

updates over the years and it isn't the

same game that launched 11 years ago

this is both a good and a bad thing but

this isn't a review of star wars the old

republic so i'll just say that any

reasonably modern machine can run this

as well as it runs without complaint

overwatch was released in 2016 and still

has millions of active players every

month this is exactly the sort of cpu

that should run this game well and you

won't be disappointed you're watching

1080p high detail 100 render resolution

and it is absolutely solid at 60 frames

per second

totally controllable with no lag or

stutter whatsoever you could play all

day long like this and never notice you

didn't have a dedicated video card

soul survivor is another tower defense

game perhaps not as good as defense grid

awakening but well worth playing for

fans of the genre 1080p high detail does

not maintain 60 frames per second

however this is a survival mode that

you're watching that gets very intense

the campaign would run better either way

no issues here

star wars battlefront 2 launched in 2017

and it has a story worth telling in its

own right but you're not here for that

so i'll just say that the game is in a

way better state than it was at launch

and it remains a lot of fun to play

today

1080p low detail 100 render we're

getting about 45 frames per second with

a one percent low in the 30 range it's

playable but not ideal i did play an

entire multiplayer match and found the

input lag to be low the control to be

good enough however this game would

really benefit from a dedicated graphics

card the division 2 launched in 2018 and

it is amazingly well optimized it will

use the resources of a high-end machine

to provide great performance in

multiplayer matches in the dark zone

or it'll run in single player mode on

very modest pcs

this is 1080p low detail and we are

averaging 62 frames per second with a

one percent low not far behind this is

completely controllable without any

issues however keep in mind that this is

single player content here i would not

try this in multiplayer environments on

this hardware so keep that in mind

pinball fx3 might seem an odd choice to

benchmark it's a pinball game after all

how hard can it be to run it turns out

not hard at all but if i don't show it

you may not know that 1080p high detail

and we've got well over 100 frames per

second no issues whatsoever here there

are thousands of games just like this

that really don't care that you're on

integrated graphics and they play

perfectly fine minecraft is insanely

popular and well worth testing on any

low end hardware for the millions and

millions of players out there who don't

all have rtx 3090s in their gaming pcs

it's true that shaders and other mods

will dramatically affect performance

however here we have the vanilla game

playing at 300 frames per second the one

percent low is just over 100 frames per

second we even have fancy graphics

turned on league of legends is another

game that runs very well on integrated

graphics i am showing this and some of

the other games not because i was

worried about it but because i know

there are lots of people out there who

don't know this and seeing is believing

1080p high detail and were over 200

frames per second what else needs to be

said

the mass effect franchise is an amazing

experience and well worth the play

through if you like story-based

role-playing games the recently released

legendary edition upgraded the game's

detail and made it easier to run on

modern systems while fixing a few old

bugs and issues in the game

here we have mass effect 3 at 1080p high

detail and it runs awesome no issues

with performance no input lag in combat

well worth your time to enjoy

assassin's creed syndicate is now four

games old in the assassin's creed

franchise so i honestly expected it to

run better than this you are watching

1080p low detail in a game that launched

in 2015

seven years ago yet performance is

frankly dreadful now i was able to

complete a mission and you could play

the game this way however i wouldn't

advise it we are averaging 30 frames per

second here but what that number doesn't

tell you is the input lag there is a

delay between pressing keys and having

actions happen i started to compensate

for it after a while however it's

noticeable when you've played this on

better hardware without it assassin's

creed origins odyssey and valhalla have

all released since syndicate came out

they of course don't run any better but

shockingly enough they don't really run

any worse either at least the built-in

benchmarks don't i didn't test live

gameplay on odyssey and valhalla so keep

that in mind

this chart shows three of the last four

games tested in the assassin's creed

series the latter two being the built-in

benchmarks as i noted before

none of these belong on integrated

graphics get a dedicated graphics card

if you want to play assassin's creed

cyberpunk 2077 is an interesting game so

much promise so many broken promises but

that's not important right now if ever

there was a game born for the rtx 3090

this is it so why test it here it's this

generation's does it run crisis

you're watching 1080p a low detail at 50

render resolution don't adjust your

monitor yes it really looks this bad i

think sonic adventure on the sega

dreamcast would actually be sharper than

this it's really muddy and it looks like

someone smeared grease all over the

screen on the plus side we're getting 45

frames per second average on the

downside we're getting 25 in the one

percent low and the game looks like it

belongs on the original xbox so the

short version is don't bother

but wait you all say i'm using ddr4 3600

cl 18. if i had tighter timings on the

ram this would run better

oh really you think so

i get this comment a lot so let's take a

look and see just how much difference

ram speed makes

this is three different tests in the

same area of the game doing the same

stuff on the top we have ddr4 3200 cl 14

this is premium samsung bdi memory g

skill flare x to be specific

in the middle we have a high-end g-skill

trident z kit with ddr4 3600 cl 16 and

on the bottom we have our standard 3600

cl 18 ram

note that we actually used three

different ram kits here rated for these

speeds this is not one kit with a few

timings tweaked here's the chart with

the results oh yeah ram really makes a

massive difference i've seen this

comment so often i felt it needed to be

knocked down

because it really really needs to be

debunked yes technically in some

specific benchmarks it'll make a small

difference that makes a pre-line on a

benchmark chart but in the real world

you're looking at a few percentage

points difference at best let's try

another game assassin's creed valhalla

again you've got 3200 cl-14 on the top

3600 cl 16 in the middle and 3600 cl 18

on the bottom is there a difference yes

is there a noticeable difference when

the numbers aren't on the screen no

here is the chart 33 34 and 31 frames

per second those are rounding errors

nothing more nothing less why don't we

try another game surely we'll see a

difference then

shadow of the tomb raider 1080p lowest

detail and the positions are the same

3200 cl14 on the top 3600 cl 16 in the

middle and 3600 cl 18 on the bottom

here is the chart of those results 38 40

and 38. oh yeah that's worth overpaying

for fancy ram i can hear the chuckle

heads in the back already

but tech you didn't test 3600 cl 14 but

you didn't test 3 800 cl 14 with

infinity fabric turned to one-to-one

with custom settings well you're not

wrong

first 3600 cl 14 will add one or two

frames per second to the 3600 cl 16

numbers at the cost of some very

expensive ram how expensive at the time

of filming 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3600 cl

18 was 85 on newegg

32 gigabytes of ddr4 3600 cl 14 was 230

that is almost three times as expensive

or 145 dollars more to gain two to four

frames per second in games that we're

only running at 30 to begin with or 4 to

8 frames per second that we're running

just fine at 60 to 100 frames per second

want to know why that's the dumbest idea

in the history of dumb ideas 150 buys

you a used gtx 1070 on ebay which

absolutely demolishes the performance of

the vega 8 graphics and renders the

entire ram speed conversation a

pointless issue

don't spend a hundred and forty five

dollars to get five percent more

performance spend a hundred and fifty

dollars to get five hundred percent more

performance that concludes the live

gameplay testing part of this video but

hold on we do have more tests done using

other game's built-in benchmarks we

won't show you the footage or this would

be longer than lord of the rings the

special edition

this chart of 15 games tested shows the

games we tested on low detail the

averages are first i'll show you the one

percent lows in just a minute a few

games run really well we've already

covered call of duty infinite warfare

but others such as rainbow six siege no

1800 and world war z will run just fine

here others such as watchdogs legion

horizon zero dawn and dirt 5 will not

those games need a dedicated graphics

card here are the 1 low numbers on the

same 15 games half of these are really

playable some are just okay and some are

terrible moving on to the 12 games that

we tested at high detail most of these

we showed you already but now you can

see the final numbers in chart form i'll

use this moment to remind you all that

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supporting us on patreon for either two

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the one percent low numbers of the 12

games tested at high detail some hold up

pretty well others fall down pretty hard

in fairness star wars the old republic

isn't this cpu's fault and rtx 3090 will

do this at times it's just that game

mass effect dipped mostly from scene

transitions and so on three games were

tested at medium detail you can see them

on their own chart here xcom 2 really

did disappoint a shame because it's such

a fun game the other two ran without

complaint if you take nothing else away

from this video take this one point

whatever your hardware is be it this

5700 g an i5 10 400 with an rx 580 or an

i5 2400 and a gt 1030 game selection is

everything when it comes to your overall

experience

run games your hardware is designed to

run and avoid games that it is not

cyberpunk 2077 may have been a

disappointment overall however it was

good enough to get two full playthroughs

from me with over 300 hours played if

ever there was a game that deserves a 34

inch 1440p ultrawide monitor and an rtx

3090 it's cyberpunk on the other end of

the spectrum older games like call of

duty infinite warfare are both cheap to

buy and very easy to play on the ryzen 7

5700g

or something like an i5 3450 and an r9

370 if you're rocking older hardware the

true benefit to the 5700g is not the

integrated graphics for modern games now

it's the 8 zen 3 cores for when you want

to drop 150

on a gtx 1070 or 400 on an rx 6700 xt

and finally play assassin's creed

valhalla regarding cpu upgrades this

really only makes sense for anyone

currently running a ryzen 3 2200g or

perhaps a ryzen 5 3400g and otherwise

doesn't have a graphics card you move

from zen one or zen plus to zen three

you double your core count and you

double or quadruple your thread count

and for a reasonable price all things

considered

if you are currently running a ryzen 5

1600 or a ryzen 5 2600 and you want an

upgrade to zen 3 and you already have a

dedicated graphics card skip the 5700g

and either get the ryzen 7 5700x or the

ryzen 9 5900x either would be a solid

upgrade to any 1000 or 2000 based ryzen

system

would i build a new system today based

on the 5700g in a word no

two reasons number one zen4 is going to

launch in about eight weeks it'll be a

faster cpu cores it'll have faster

integrated graphics and it will for the

most part render this moot

if zen 4 ends up being hard to find or

really expensive then for a vastly

superior gaming experience i would spend

250 dollars i would buy a ryzen 7

5700x and i would buy a used gtx 1070

for 150

it is

500 faster than the integrated graphics

here and for a relatively small amount

of money it is a huge improvement to the

overall gaming experience

note that i didn't cover non-gaming

results here some people don't need a

graphics card because they just want the

powerful zen 3 cores and are fine with

integrated graphics it's kind of why

intel's put integrated graphics in all

their chips for so many years i'll just

say this the vega 8 graphics is

perfectly fine for anything you

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hello and welcome to tech deals computer

gaming has has a

booyah

when you get first try but when you get

it you get it

i showed you battlefield 5 at the

beginning at the start of the video

and

to be fair infinite warfare came out in

2016 so that helps a lot when it comes

to performance battlefield 5 came out in

2018 which is why the primary the

reasons

is this it's the

new games are harder to run film at 11.

from intel in the form of the i7 980 and

amd in the form of the phenom

x216 that's not what the words say on

the screen

it contains eight zen three cores that

are hyper threaded giving us a total of

16 threads to work with to works with

top

it's the works burger

the 5700g does come with a cooler in the

box however you'd be well served to buy

something better a 20

deep cool

we have to talk about motherboard

support because this is one key area

that has changed dramatically since the

cpu launched at launched the zen 3 chips

only officially supported 500 series

motherboards the a520 the b550 and the

x570 chipsets

since then amd has added official

support for zen 3 to the entire line of

chipsets that they've released going all

the way back to the x370

still ad-libbing and still getting it

wrong

part 38 take five

all of our testing today was done on

this asus rog strix x470-f

motherboard on that test bench right

back there

why not test on our x570 text

text bench

what follows now is a lot of benchmarks

of live gameplay rather than canned

benchmarks the results for all of which

will be charts will be in charts

there will be charts

let there be charts

3600 cl 14 will add one or two frames

per second to the cl 30 to the cl 16.

damn it

good lord

who wrote the script

the script is so long

if anybody is still watching

you're the bonus gold star to you

because that's ridiculous

who wrote a 100 and some mod part script

seven pages over 5000 words

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