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this is going to be a long term review

for the ryzen 5700

g

currently the most powerful gpu

coupled with any cpu on the windows

platform

at least

on the desktop

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the cpu came out

nearly eight nine months ago along with

the ryzen 5 5600g and it's about time

that we do this long term review just

look at it and see how it works in in

real life

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oh

now what we'll do is to start off with

the

probably the toughest challenge that

i've placed this this hardware to and

that is the

adobe dimension we're going to be

looking at a lot of adobe software so

dimension premiere pro photoshop

all of that will even be looking at a

couple of games towards the end

so

this one is probably the toughest one

let's see what we can do now i created

this a little bit a little bit of

time ago and

it was designed as a thumbnail youtube

thumbnail doesn't take long to do as

long as you've got very good uh hardware

obviously editing it now just with the

onboard graphics is a different kind of

situation

what we

can do with the onboard graphics is to

basically

do whatever we need to do in terms of

moving items around as long as the

design says a 1080p design maybe a very

simple design which doesn't have too

many elements happening

we can do a very brief kind of a preview

like this without any ray tracing

however if we want to turn on ray

tracing things do change we can do that

by clicking on this button

and as you can see i've chosen full

resolution

and we can say also

reduce noise in preview

and when we turn this on you'll be able

to see the ray tracing

now remember this is going to happen on

the onboard graphics with the onboard

graphics

and the cpu working together

so you can see it does do a job it's

pretty quick and it gives you an idea of

what the

what the full render is going to look

like now i have performed a full render

on this design

and the

high quality render took 11 minutes and

51 seconds

whilst the

low quality render took

just one minute and one second

that low quality render will be good

enough for for for youtube however

trying to work

with the

gpu and the cpu almost running at 100

is pretty difficult we can add more

items and we can

we can do basic editing with this one

but the more items we add

the more

features that we the the more textures

we can add more textures and it won't

delay anything let's just add a texture

to this guy here

now this

this can be rendered but i tell you what

it it does

not feel the it doesn't feel as though

the system is highly responsive and you

might notice actually i do

yeah i do stop talking when the render

is beginning

and that's because the system is

basically not able to respond let's

change the texture and let's see what

that looks like

so you can see you can get stuff done as

long as you've got a design that you're

working on it's 1080p it's not too

complicated you can render stuff inside

of adobe dimension i wouldn't recommend

it i would recommend getting a much more

powerful gpu

a discrete graphics card i would

recommend maybe even getting a more

powerful cpu because uh dimension does

like

a lot of

it lacks a lot of power it likes to have

a lot of computing power but as you can

see we can do basic stuff inside of

dimension

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and moving on to photoshop photoshop is

probably the most popular package

inside the adobe creative suite i'll be

surprised if there's anything more

popular what what i've done is to set up

my computer so that if we go to

preferences performance we've actually

got hardware acceleration turned on so

you can see it here the amd graphics

are acting as hardware acceleration and

photoshop really does

like to have a lot

of computing power on the cpu and it

likes to have a little bit of computing

power on the gpu too now just to clarify

my system is running with 16 gigabytes

of dedicated vram

going to the graphics and that means

we've got all the hardware acceleration

turned on for all the adobe creative

suite

let's

cancel and

try a couple of things inside of

photoshop first thing we're going to do

on this photograph i think we're going

to make this woman a little bit more

beautiful

so we're going to go to the liquify

mode or the liquify filter and this one

does like to use the gpu

and it is very responsive

when using this particular

when using this particular

graphics card or the the onboard

graphics

so we can make our eyes a bit larger

let's see if we can get the on-screen

controls

okay there we are

make our face a little bit wider and

more beautiful

and the mouth as well

and she wants to smile a little bit as

well let's do that

uh that is looking beautiful that is

looking really beautiful so you can see

it's very responsive and there is no

difficulty whatsoever getting things

done okay we've maximized the beauty

let's hit ok there we are

so the onboard graphics can power all

the features inside of photoshop that

require hardware acceleration and it

does a brilliant job

another thing that we could do is to

look maybe at the

another filter that really does like to

have

powerful graphics and that's the

adaptive wide angle

and i'm not sure what i'm going to do

here maybe i'm just going to draw

a line like that and another one

like that this is crazy

you can see it's highly responsive

without the gpu

we would be getting very poor

performance right now if you're

wondering what numbers you're seeing

here they are the numbers just for the

onboard graphics and the cpu

we've also got the system ram as well

but um

yeah it's highly responsive and i have

no delays in doing anything whatsoever

let's see what happens when we go to the

neural filters

and the neural filters sometimes do like

to have a lot

of

power they do like to have the graphics

let's see if we can move this

yeah i can see the graphics uh really

kind of powering up

let's do style transfer

there we are and that one does use the

cpu it does also use the gpu quite a lot

like you can work with photoshop without

hardware acceleration

but it is painful

i find it painful i don't know how

people do it

now i think if i had a more powerful

graphics card

some of these effects might be applied a

little bit more quickly

but as it is it's pretty quick it's

pretty responsive

beautiful now what we can also do let me

just uh get rid of the selection

we can also go ahead and test what it's

like to run a very simple

adjustment so we'll take take the color

balance and

this guy here allows us just to change

the colors a little bit

maybe add a bit of magenta

a bit of blue

and what it's doing it's separating the

image into highlights and shadows

and that's actually kind of a tough

thing for for the for the for the

hardware to do for the software to do

it's gonna identify the highlights and

shadows and it's gonna then identify the

colors and change the colors

accordingly and you can see it's it's a

smooth process with this with this

hardware

it's highly responsive and this is a

fairly large image

i don't know if i should try to

to zoom in but essentially it's about a

third of the resolution

that you're seeing here so i'm working

on a 4k monitor

and

actually using two 4k monitors and the

hardware doesn't seem to have any

problems whatsoever with this it

handles two 4k monitors 60hz refresh

rates no problems 10 bits per channel

no problems whatsoever

another good test

inside of photoshop is to use the brush

tool so we're going to paint over

the mask

and you can see it's nice and smooth

highly responsive

maybe a little bit of lag but

it's still responsive enough that you

don't really notice any problems with

the with the speed and performance now

there are some other filters that we

find inside of camera raw and some of

these do rely quite a lot on the

graphics card uh and also just the

general work and performance of camera

raw like for instance if i want to zoom

in i can do that very smoothly and

that's beautiful

now if i was using

a more powerful graphics card maybe it

might be just a little bit smoother

who knows

but if i did not have a graphics card i

would literally be just zooming in just

a little bit at a time it's it's painful

to work without without a graphics card

the graphics on board graphics are very

stable they

very rarely crash

and there are quite a lot of other

features inside of camera raw that use

the the the graphics maybe we can take a

look at those when we take a look at

lightroom because lightroom and camera

raw have very similar features

so all in all photoshop does work very

well i would say that the 10 bit output

probably i'm not certain that we are

getting 10-bit output from photoshop

using the radion adrenaline drivers

let's move on to the next software we're

going to move to and is a very

good test for the

cpu does not use hardware

acceleration

now that might change

since let's go to focus blur

now we know that nvidia's is coming up

with some open source

open source drivers for for linux and

that might mean some of the open source

software that currently doesn't use

hardware acceleration might change i

don't know i don't have any information

on that but uh

any improvements to the open source

drivers will be a good thing so we can

see with focus blur which is one of the

most demanding filters inside of

that you might want to use on a daily

basis

it's it's not quite as responsive as the

ones we saw inside of photoshop but it

is responsive it

does use up quite a lot of the cpu the

gpu not so much we don't really touch

the gpu inside of

and i don't know if we're benefiting

from the a 10 bit output

that

that the

adrenaline software is capable of but

i'm getting a very responsive edit with

that's what i like now there are

certain other features inside of

that don't work quite as well let's make

a selection

and let me demonstrate one of these

so let's go to filter

artistic and let's use water pixels

let's hope things don't crash

now water pixels just creates this

beautiful kind of watercolor effect it

is a crushingly

uh expensive to render effect inside of

it can take a lot of time you can

crash my my

it didn't do that this time and it's one

of those that works on a single core so

it doesn't do the multi-core is

capable of multi-threaded performance

with quite a lot of its filters but some

of these filters will just go ahead and

work on a single core

water pixels does seem to want to be one

of those single core

single core

filters

there right try to apply apply it

to the entire image it looks nice but

will it take forever

okay

it's completed and the system didn't

crash so that looks good it's a very

fascinating filter and

there isn't a

i don't think there's a faster version

of it inside of but um you can see

it does the job just

does take a bit of time

so this is the 10-bit color depth that

were

that is available inside of

adrenaline 10 bit per channel color and

it is rgb 444 format so that's full rgb

and um

that's

probably very useful in gaming i don't

know if it's useful for software like

but let's now quit

i think is a pretty tough test and

i think it more or less passed the cpu

past

the the test

this one is very very demanding on the

cpu

so this guy here

almost anything that i do inside of

illustrator always seems to happen a

little bit slower than i would like it

to

let's go ahead and change the color of

this bad boy here

okay let's try to apply a pretty tough

filter for

for this guy

so one of the things that we can now do

inside of

inside of illustrator is to do 3d so

we've got fairly sophisticated 3d

features

and these features are reminiscent of

the stuff that we had inside of

photoshop a few years ago when those

features worked really well

there is also an option to render the 3d

filter to render the 3d effect

and we can use ray tracing to to render

it

and we can go for high quality if we

want

so in many ways in many respects this is

very similar to what we have in

dimension

and it it does seem to work well i'm

just going to click away

and we've got a nice 3d effect there i

would say that that having a decent on

having decent on-board graphics is

enough for working with many of the

features inside of and really the 3d

features here are probably the most

demanding features for 3d you do need

three

gigabytes of uh dedicated graphics you

can easily arrange that

and it works reasonably well i would say

the next software is going to be adobe

after effects

and this is a this is a little design

that i worked on a little bit before let

me see if we can

let's see what's happening here

okay so this is a small 4k animation let

me see if i can um

i've cleared all the cache so there's

nothing stored in cache

and you'll be able to see how well this

runs inside of after effects

on the onboard graphics

very easy

it's the kind of thing which this is a

little graphic that i did for the uh for

the overclocking video which is going to

be useful if you want to do overclocking

uh with this hardware

as you can see there it is not difficult

to to do very simple 4k animations

and this one is not that simple it's

actually kind of complicated but

basically when you're doing this kind of

animation it i can show you what what it

looks like maybe

core animation lots and lots of players

going on there

so

yeah it's very it's powerful i can't

really express enough just how powerful

this this is

it gets the job done

when it comes to rendering the graphics

it's i mean you can tell it's not going

to take a lot of time

it literally takes about as much time

to render the final render as it does to

to do the preview inside of well maybe

about twice as long but it is

really really capable and maybe i don't

test it enough i think if you're working

with very complex projects inside of

after effects very complex templates

doing all kinds of crazy stuff all kinds

of filters and effects

uh cinema 4d and all that kind of stuff

you would find it probably a lot a lot

more difficult to use this kind of entry

level

hardware but for

you know basic 4k editing and animation

it is it's all you need um i can't get

across enough just how competent it is

inside of after effects now maybe part

of that is because the the cpu is pretty

powerful in the graphics

maybe they're not that useful inside of

after effects the the gpu acceleration

but

it gets the job done i can't

really say anything more than that in

terms of ram management it is better

than using discrete graphics i don't

know why that is but the ram management

if i was using discrete graphics we will

be up to about 26 gigabytes of

of of ram

usage i don't know why it's better at

handling memory

when you're using the onboard graphics

uh the graphics i use are rtx 3070 for a

discrete

graphics card and that is about eight

gigs of ram maybe that's what makes the

difference maybe giving the on-board

graphics 16 gigs of vram just makes it

more efficient i don't know so

uh a huge thumbs up for his performance

inside of after effects but if you're

doing very complex projects yeah it's

it's it's gonna get tough if you're

using things like cinema 4d

i don't know how much how much love

you're going to get with that

so we're now inside of premiere pro this

is probably

one of the most

demanding pieces of software

uh to to work with

let me see if i can get

the

audio going

it's literally just increasing this

value by about 50

applying it and seeing it seeing if

there are any effects that are negative

in terms of stability

uh you might want to increase the

voltage to see if that will support the

new freq

you don't want to increase the the

voltage too much because that increases

the temperature but

so that's playback of a very complex

project with lots and lots of sequences

uh all kind of this is like i think

sequence number seven which is nested

it's got

i think six nested sequences inside

outside of it it's playing back i don't

think we're getting any drop flame

frames when we were overclocking this is

called under vaulting and if you like

the idea of running a system very quiet

okay maybe we're getting a few few uh

drop

drop frames but um

yeah it's generally speaking fine um

i've not had a huge amount of problems

with the with the onboard graphics once

you've been editing for about an hour

you'll find that you start running out

of uh

it's not running out of ram

um sometimes the projects are

this one is about 45 minutes long

i didn't have many problems editing this

one but in the past with some projects

that have run into an hour

maybe longer than that maybe very large

4k projects it has become slow if you're

the kind of person who works with very

complex projects

4k 8k projects this kind of setup is

going to get

very very tiring very quickly because

you're going to find that the software

is dragging

and coming to a hold

sometimes

it's difficult to use this even with

1080p

if there are a lot of things a lot of

effects that i'm trying to apply so i

would want a more powerful cpu

maybe some of the effects maybe some of

the sound effects would work a little

bit better if i had a more powerful cpu

i'll be more willing to use them maybe

some of the

graphic effects some of the video

effects i'll be definitely more willing

to use those if i had a graphics card

that was more powerful

so yeah definitely if i can get more

powerful graphics for this guy here i

definitely would

i think i would as well

for

dimension dimension is the other one

that really wants a more powerful

all-around uh 4k editing rig so as your

project is simple uh five 10 minute

youtube videos you're not doing this

kind of 45 minute long

edit that i did here

um this will be fine but once you have a

complex project you want to apply

transitions you want to apply things

that blurs and

this is gonna suffer this is not gonna

really be your friend um

i i gotta say i've been impressed with

what it can do

but i would recommend something more

powerful for premiere pro

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let's finish off by talking a little bit

about gaming performance so i have used

this with

premiere pro with the adobe creative

cloud i've also used it with audio

processing software

audacity adobe audition it works fine

with those there really is no difficulty

with audio processing um the cpu is very

powerful when it comes to gaming that's

where the system gets really tested so

with fortnite i was able to get 55

frames per second at 4k

that was using performance mode with

full 3d 100 3d

that was playable and that was enjoyable

with overclocking and i'm using it

overclocked right now with overclocking

i was able to get to 59 frames per

second

inside a fortnight that's 4k

uh i was able to get 149 frames per

second at 1080p

i also tested it with world war z

now world war z suffers with the onboard

graphics but i was able to get

nearly 50 frames per second at 1080p

using medium texture

medium quality and that was using also

fidelity

super resolution

so that's not bad one thing i did find

was that the

frames per second did increase

as you increase the memory speed so

there have been quite a number of tests

done

online which demonstrated that there is

a strong relationship between a gaming

performance and memory speed

and i found exactly the same i found

that you were able to get faster frames

per second as you increase the memory

speed

now would i recommend this for gaming

yes and no for 1080p gaming yes

definitely you can get a lot done at

1080p

there are a lot of games now that use

fidelity super resolution that is

something you could uh predominantly fx

super resolution that's something you

could look into and a lot of games

natively will run at 1080p without any

problems whatsoever using the onboard

graphics

a handful will run at 4k without

not necessarily a handful

not very demanding graphics will work at

4k 60fps uh once you get to the aaa

titles they're going to really struggle

both at uh at 1080p

and at 4k

uh one surprising problem i did also

have was quite a lot of

games that work at 1080p

uh when you're trying to run them at 4k

um some of them just don't want to play

at 4k so that was a that was a bit of a

discovery but basically this is very

good hardware and it's the kind of

hardware that you could

purchase now for about 250 dollars 250

pounds

thereabouts

and it will give you a very decent pc

build if you're doing very good

basic

1080p editing

inside of premiere pro inside of after

effects once you move to 4k that's when

shoe begins to pinch i would say you

want probably to get more powerful

hardware for premiere pro and also for

adobe dimension for gaming it

it it suffices when it suffices um

even a

an entry level discrete graphics card

would give much better gaming experience

um if you're able to overclock it and

get a decent overclock you could

increase gaming performance by about ten

percent but yeah i mean i think

at 250 to 300 dollars very good value uh

if i had to say anything about the 5600g

is that the performance is for the most

part very similar there are situations

for instance if you're using premiere

pro or if you're using dimension where

you will notice the difference between

the performance particularly when it

comes to the cpu but for most tasks the

5600 and the 5700g actually give a very

very similar real-life performance

you