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box today we have a very rare thing a

thing that didn't exist until about a

week ago and that thing is an AMD am5

motherboard that doesn't cost more than

most mid-range CPUs as rock recently let

out a quiet squeaker a 125 us b650

motherboard

called the b650m dash hdv M2 pretty

catchy name m.2 sorry a pretty catchy

name that one and unfortunately if

there's anything we know about ASRock

motherboards it's at their hdv series is

complete trash at least that's been the

case for the last few models that we've

checked out

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okay so prior to the release of this

more affordable ASRock b650 motherboard

the cheapest offering from them was the

b650 mpg riptide at 170 us and it's

actually quite a solid board but at 170

it's also very expensive as an entry

point gigabyte did manage to undercut

ASRock with the excellent b650m ds3h 160

and I guess that didn't sit well with

ASRock that said gigabytes also quietly

let out the b650mk and that's also

targeting the 125 us price point and I

have ordered one so you can expect some

coverage in the near future

so with a Target price of 125 U.S the

hdv is as you might have expected very

much a Bare Bones motherboard still

while you might only be getting two dim

slots there's a pcie 5.0 m.2 along with

a second PCI 4.0 m.2 two pcie times 16

slots both of which are PCO 4.0 for a

Time 16 times 4 configuration the i o is

very basic there's four USB 2 ports two

USB 3.25 gigabits per second type A

ports and a single USB 3.2 5 gigabits

per second type c Port there's also a

bios flashback button along with 2.5

gigabit Lan using a real Tech controller

so the Bare Essentials here for sure

there's nothing that fancy and on board

there's a USB 3.2 10 gigabits per second

type c header but that's really as good

as it gets so no 20 gigabits per second

or faster USB here you're also getting

just four SATA ports so that's probably

fine on an m80x motherboard

of course the key concern here is the

vrm as this is traditionally where

asrock's hdv series of motherboards have

failed miserably the good news though

being that ASRock lists an eight plus

two plus one power design for the b650

hdv so it can't be all that bad right or

can it now it's probably fine ASRock is

using the Vishay

sic-654 50 amp power stages they went

with a dozen of these power stages on

the b650m PG Riptide and it performed

quite well so I think they'll get away

with eight here but of course we will be

testing that shortly meanwhile the vrm

heatsinks they're not huge certainly

smaller than what we found on the

riptide so it's going to be really

interesting to see how this board

handles the ryzen 9 7950x and speaking

of which let's get on with that for

testing I am using the gigabyte auris

c500 glass case with the gigabyte UD

1000 GM power supply and for cooling the

gigabyte auris water Force X360

millimeter arrow and thank you to

gigabyte from providing all that

hardware for our testing it made the job

a bit easier then for recording

temperatures I'm using a digital

thermometer with k-type thermocouples

and I'll be reporting the rear Peak PCB

temperature and finally I'm not

reporting delta T over ambient Stone

maintain at room temperature of 21

degrees and to ensure a constant ambient

temperature a thermocouple is positioned

next to the test system as for the

stress test I am using the ryzen 97950x

and for load cinebench which was looped

for an hour at which point I'm reporting

the maximum PCB temperature again

recorded using k-type thermocouples

okay so out of the box the hdv has an 85

degree thermal limit for the CPU which

is essentially a power limit though

oddly this limit has been set 10 degrees

higher than the one found on the riptide

thankfully though in that example the

limit was completely unnecessary as the

Riptides of our impact at just 76

degrees with the thermal limit removed

and for those of you unaware the

standard thermal limit or TJ Maxx which

is set by AMD is 95 degrees for the zen4

processors and this affords the CPU a

bit more Headroom when it comes to power

usage for those of you wanting to change

the configuration for the hdv from 85

degrees to the standard 95 degrees you

merely need to enter the BIOS and change

the TJ Maxx it's very quick and easy to

do so now despite packing four fewer 50

amp power stages and a smaller varum

heatsink than the riptide the hdv ran

just three degrees hotter at 79 degrees

so just scraping it under 80 degrees

there for the peak temperature in our

testing which is certainly an acceptable

result and this means the hdv will be

able to handle the 7950x at full power

and basically any environment humans can

survive without having to strip down to

their underwear so that is very handy

now I should probably expect with the 85

degree thermal limit in place the hdv is

slightly slower than it would be

otherwise in the cinema R23 multi-core

test with the out of the box power limit

removed though the score was boosted by

a mere three percent and now the 7950x

is performing as expected it's really a

trivial difference and I'm not really

sure why ASRock keeps releasing boards

that can run at full power with an

artificial limit that said it's really

not a big deal as I've said given how

close the performance is anyway just a

bit of an odd Choice there

interestingly the thermal limit did

slightly reduce single core performance

though we're only looking at a single

percentage difference for this workload

and this means for lightly threaded

games there shouldn't be any real

difference between the 85 degree thermal

Limit Out of the Box configuration and

the standard 95 degree configuration and

of course we did only see a three

percent margin in the multi-core test so

again overall this really isn't a big

deal

as for gaming the hdv does very well

relative to other ASRock MSI and Asus

boards with the limits removed we went

from 249 fps to 251 FPS which is still

well done on the gigabyte boards due to

gigabytes more aggressive memory tuning

out of the box which results in a five

percent boost here

performance on Watchdogs Legion is much

similar between the various b650 boards

and again the hdv performed very well

allowing for 155 FPS on average with the

power limits removed now this is really

interesting using our ddr5 6000cl30

memory with Expo loaded the hdv took on

average just 16 seconds to load Windows

11. and this is from pushing the power

button to the system booting up and

hitting the Windows desktop just 16

seconds that took interestingly it was a

few seconds slower using the standard

out of the box configuration but overall

either configuration was very fast and I

should note that all of the comparative

data featured in this video from the

previously tested b650 motherboards was

done so in many instances using older

boss revisions that have possibly now

been updated that said not all the

boards have been updated yet and the hdv

is still using ajisa

1.0.0.5 C but MSI for example has now

updated their b650 range and are

claiming improved boot time so that's

something that I'll have to retest when

I get time but even so sub 20 second

load times here for the hdv is

incredible so much so that I ended up

recording a little video on posted it to

Twitter when I first discovered just how

fast this thing could load into Windows

11 from hitting the power button and I

should just note that it might not be

this fast with every memory kit on the

qualified vendor list as it was with RG

skill ddr5 6000 memory but even so this

result is unlike anything we've seen

previously from an am5 motherboard using

this exact memory kit so I do Wonder

just how much the Dual memory dim design

helps with this

so there you have it an ASRock hdv

motherboard that's actually really good

what a time to be alive maybe it's all

our past content that help lead here can

we take full credit for it

I'm going to take full credit for it I

think the only slight bit of

disappointing news here as this board

was suggested to be 125 us motherboard

so that was the I believe the Target

price 125 us but at present it's selling

for more like a hundred and forty

dollars U.S could just be an early

introductory price not sure on that one

but it is still around 20 U.S less than

the gigabyte b650m ds3h

still that's quite an improvement on

price and they are similar equipped

boards the gigabyte b650 mdh3h does

offer greater flexibility when it comes

to memory expansion but with the hdv you

are getting extra stuff like PCA 5.0 to

one of the m.2s a better pcie

configuration so I'd say the 20 discount

does make the ASRock model the more

attractive option having said I love

that though gigabytes b650 MK can be had

for 130 right now which is ten dollars

less than the hdv so I am Keen to check

that one out as for which zen4 processor

makes sense to pair with asrock's new

Ultra affordable hdv well anything will

work just fine as we saw but I imagine

those focusing on productivity and

therefore opting for a 12 or 16 core

ryzen 9 part this board's probably not

going to be all that appealing to you

you'll likely want better pcie m.2 and

USB support meaning 200 plus am5 boards

will be more attractive rather I see the

hdv being a great board for gamers

something to pair with the 230 us ryzen

5 7 600 while also having the option to

upgrade in the future in the comfort of

knowing that the board can handle 170

watt ryzen processors with ease and with

multiple years of support promised you

should have a strong upgrade path ahead

of you it's probably also not a bad

value board for the ryzen 7 at 7 7800x

3D which will be released shortly though

I'd probably suggest going for one of

the am5 boards priced closer to 200 if

you're going to spend 450 us on your CPU

the extra 60 also buys you some nicer

features that should see the platform

age a bit better

whatever the case it's good to see the

ASRock b650m Dash hdv m.2 works well

with no vrm concerns to speak of so big

thank you to our patreon floatplane DOT

m.2 members for enabling us to buy this

Hardware as rock were sending us aboard

initially I did ask them for a ball when

this thing was first announced and they

told us they didn't have samples and

they did nothing to provide a board

which usually means this thing's low end

and not particularly good and therefore

we don't want to promote it which

thankfully wasn't the case this time

anyway to ASRock to their credit they

did get back to me about a week ago and

so we have samples now and we're sending

a board out but that board hasn't

arrived yet so I purchased this one

about a week before they told me they

could get us aboard so we were able to

get this board a bit earlier do the

video and yeah so big thank you to the

people who support the channel because

it meant we were able to get this

content at least out to you a bit sooner

and we were able to review a retail

sample for whatever that's worth but

yeah also thanks to ASRock for for

sending us the boards of it we'll have

two of these now so I guess I can test

the uh review sample as well and see how

it compares to the retail board but

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