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just recently announced its non-x CPUs

including the 7600 seventy seven hundred

and seventy nine hundred in this video

we're reviewing and benchmarking the

7600 non-x we have reviews of the 77 and

79 coming up next and for these what

we're looking at is how is the value

proposition versus the generally too

expensive x-class 7000 series CPUs that

was everyone's main problem with the

7000 series was compared to Intel the

value was getting a little rough for AMD

it was a different scenario than the

last couple of years so now amd's

dropping the prices but the non-x CPUs

although technically they run slower

they are fully unlocked so you can run

them with PBO or overclock them and get

most the way to an x-cpu that's one of

the things we're gonna be looking at

today in the review let's get started

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background to get everyone up to speed

so the 7600 is a 6 core 12 thread part

it's lower TDP at 65 Watts but TDP is

not equal to power we'll talk about that

more later the 7700 non-x is eight cores

12 threads and the 79 is 12 cores 24

threads now all of these are reduced TDP

they all launch tomorrow at the time

this video goes up so that'll be January

10 2023 and here's a quick table showing

the basic spec on paper these are

basically just power limited versions of

the existing 7000 series CPUs all three

are limited to 65 watt TDP and you can't

compare this number to previous

generations so keep that in mind they

changed some of the numbers around other

than that the maximum boost clocks are

100 to 200 megahertz lower than the

x-class CPUs and the base clocks are

considerably lower 900 megahertz lower

in the case of the 7600 versus the 7600x

that will come into play in the

benchmarks they also come with coolers

though the 7900 and 7700 get The Wraith

prism and the 7600 we're reviewing also

gets a wraith cooler but it's the

stealth the stealth is the smallest of

all of amd's stock coolers we're not

entirely sure what happened to the

middle and race Spire but it didn't make

an appearance here now the biggest thing

to keep in mind here is that Andy's

original list prices for the x-class

CPUs were far higher than they have been

recently at what we call the street

price or what it's actually available

for from retailers so originally this

price Gap would have been about 70 bucks

230 for the nonx 300 for the X pretty

big difference very easy to start making

a strong value comparison to the non-x

however at the time we're filming this

the and the prices have been climbing

again but the x is available for around

250 bucks it has gone up a little bit it

was 240 a couple weeks or a month ago

um so the prices are fluctuating and

we'll have to come to conclusions at the

end we'll give you a couple options

based on what we think the prices will

most likely level out at but they've

been cheaper lately which does make it a

little weird for AMD with the non-x CPUs

and we think based on what we've heard

from talking to people within the

industry that the non-x CPUs will likely

also drop depending on what Intel pushes

at the low end over the next couple

months so prices are going to move

around a lot which is great that means

there's good competition motherboard is

still far too expensive in general for

am5 but that's a different different

topic okay we're gonna get into the

gaming benchmarks first then we'll go

through Power efficiency power testing

we'll also be talking about production

capabilities and we'll come to a value

judgment at the end we'll start off our

gaming Suite of bench parks with Far Cry

6 at 1080p where we have good scaling

throughout the stack with the 3090 TI

and we have some 40 90 tests coming up

in the 7700 review as well if you want

to see those the ryzen 5 7600 placed at

155 FPS average on the chart only 3 FPS

average behind the original 7600x and

without meaningful change in the one

percent loads this means that the X and

non-x are functionally tied here and you

won't notice any difference in the

experience next we applied PBR Precision

boost overdrive and the results were

basically indistinguishable from stock

since the change versus the 7600x is so

small the non-x still has a healthy lead

over the previous generation 5600x that

said the 5800 x3d with its larger cache

is still firmly the leading AMD CPU for

Far Cry with 181 FPS average the 12600k

is tied exactly with the 7600 and can be

bought for about the same money for the

KF version one potential Advan advantage

to the 12 600k is a lower overall

platform cost when using ddr4 as we move

through the other charts we'll see if

the performance of these two parts

diverges up from that is the 13600k

which holds a comfortable 19 lead over

the 7600 But really is in the next price

class up at about 320 dollars next is CS

go at 1080p the 7600 Falls right in

behind the 7600x at 387 FPS average

firmly within variants of each other

there's no performance difference

between them along with the 7600 PBO

results as well that's two games so far

with the non-x holds up just like the X

and here's why that is so even though

the TDP is constrained in the non-x

parts in gaming it is extremely uncommon

for the CPU to pull all of the power

that it would in an all-core production

workload like say blender or compiling

code so when you're playing games the

load tends to bounce between the CPU and

the GPU and other component Islands in a

way where it's not typically going to

run up against TDP or the PPT limits

that are configured for the CPU and

that's why a 7600x with a more unlocked

configuration compared to a 7600 with a

locked config basically look the same

it's because they're not bouncing off of

the power limit anyway so back to the

Chart the 7600 outperforms the similarly

priced 12 600k by 27 percent and even

the more expensive 13 600k by six

percent Zen 4 is showing up strong for

CS go making the 7600 look like a good

choice at 230 dollars this game is also

an example of a situation where the

58x3d's cache doesn't provide much

benefit at least as compared to Far Cry

giving a lead of 13 to the 7600 if

you've been hanging on to an early rise

in CPU like a 2600 and aren't compelled

to do an in socket upgrade this might be

your moment the 7600 more than doubles

the average frame rate for that CPU and

a rains way better frame time

consistency along with it moving to

Final Fantasy 14 and the end Walker

Benchmark we see all the ryzen 7000 CPUs

are tightly packed relative to the 7600

Final Fantasy seems to utilize CPUs and

the zenfor architecture similarly with

Intel 13th gen CPUs performing higher

and older ryzen CPU is performing worse

as compared to the previous generations

the 5800x3d is functionally tied with

the 7600 as well the extra cash makes up

for the missing core performance we can

see the other side of that when looking

at the 5600x which is outperformed by

the 7600 by 19 as for Intel comparisons

the 12600k is also tied with the 7600

But the 13600k comes out ahead by 17

percent for 90 dollars more in Rainbow

Six Siege at 1080p the 7600 falls into a

range of very similarly performing CPUs

just over 600 FPS average we know it's

not purely a GPU limitation due to the

fact that the 13700k and 3900k are out

ahead so we can chalk this up to other

behaviors like game engine or driver

overhead so in light of that the 7600

performs identically to itself under PBO

the 7600x is the same 13600k is about

the same and more the 5600x is

predictably slower as is the 12 600k

which allows an 11 lead to the 7600.

there's not much else to say here so

we'll move on now this next one is a GPU

bound scenario so this is total war

Warhammer 3. it's at 1080P and

technically speaking it's useless as a

CPU review comparison but it's useful

for illustrating what happens when your

GPU bound which is a big surprise

they're all the same so the only reason

we include this chart is to help people

who are partic in particular who are new

to the space new to building PCS

understand that in CP reviews and GPU

reviews you intentionally construct a

scenario to show a difference with the

part you're reviewing but in reality

sometimes it's bound by something else

so anyway let's get to the chart art so

in total Warhammer 3 It suffers from

poor scaling due to being generally held

back by the graphics load and the memory

load it's a good demonstration for what

a limitation looks like but it's not

useful for a CPU review the only thing

you really see scaling from is something

like a 2600. our final game Benchmark is

shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p the

7600 ran at 253 FPS average and again

tied with the 7600x so for all our game

tests there's not really a reason to

spend more on the X versus the non-x the

7600 is also the better pick over the

12600k as it outperformed the last ni5

by 14 this is also one of the rarer

situations where the 13600k shows no

benefit over the 7600 and as always this

is why it's important to test different

apis different games because not always

the case that say Intel's direct

competitors better or amds is better

they'll trade depending on what the

scenario is now as stated we have some

40 90 tests as well but we're going to

debut those with the 7700 and 7900

because we've started to need the higher

end GPU capability so we'll be looking

at that soon so for TDP AMD tried to

make some kind of Claim about gaming at

ultra low power consumption and one of

its presentation slides for the 7600 it

compared to the 7600 at 65 watts versus

the 13600k at 125 watts and AMD claimed

the following quote the ryzen 5 7 600

runs at a low air cool friendly 65 watt

TDP while the core i5 13600k consumes a

much higher 125 watt TDP first of all

CPUs don't consume TDP

AMD they consume electricity power uh

this quote is phenomenally stupid in a

lot of ways AMD has been playing screwy

games with TDP for a very long time we

published a deep dive on it years ago

they haven't changed and these

formulation for TDP is such that you

cannot even compare the 5000 series to

the 7000 series so this is silly it's

not possible nor is it I mean it's it's

just strictly disingenuous to compare

CPU power consumption cross brand by

using TDP which for AMD is not derived

from power watts does not appear in the

TDP formula except at the end of it when

they just slap a w on to the number that

calculates out from TK's T ambient which

is temperature for both of those and for

the thermal resistance of the cooler

strapped to the CPU so AMD let's just

stop with the slimy bullsh Petty

marketing and use real numbers 88 Watts

for yours and then we'll show enthals in

our power testing those are the numbers

you can use

come on let's not do the Radeon group

thing and start playing thumb games when

you don't have to you can't see but you

can feel it to prove the point about

Watts not equal in Watts we'll start the

tests off with all core power

consumption this is measured at the 12

volt cables to isolate down to just the

cpu's power draw not the full system the

ryzen 5 7600 at stock pulled an average

of 88 Watts the particularly astute to

Manu May notice that 88 is higher than

65. AMD has another number called PPT or

package of power tracking this acts as a

limit for how much actual power in

actual watts the CPU consumes the pvt

for the 7600 is 88 Watts so the limit

works as intended here if we could just

get AMD marketing to report the PBT

instead of or alongside TDP that'd be

great but back to the Chart the 88 watt

number is less than the original 7600x

which measured at 116 Watts that's the

32 percent higher than the non-x new

part kind of impressive considering

they're basically the same part with

different Power limits even when we

applied PBO to the 7600 it still used

less power than the X and despite lower

non-x power draw the previous generation

5600x is lower still pulling only 67

Watts overall the 7600 is relatively

well behaved out of the box and won't

put a preachable strain on any halfway

decent vrm or cooler when compared to

Intel's 12th and 13th gen i5s the 12600k

uses 35 more power than the 7600 and the

13600k at 161 Watts uses nearly double

the power the 13600k is going to be

faster in basically any scenario but it

does so at the cost of power consumption

our next test measures CPU efficiency by

doing a simple calculation between the

energy consumed versus the amount of

work completed and time is a variable

here so we allow them to run until they

finish the workload and then we look at

how much power did it consume during

that work how long did it take to

complete the work what is the result in

efficiency in Watt hours so if you use

eco mode the efficiency has been there

but if you don't use eco mode with the

excuse It's very inefficient by

comparison these are basically eco mode

xq CPUs without the X so let's take a

look at the numbers the 7600 calculated

to 24.4 Watt hours making it 20 percent

more efficient than the original 7600x

and place it at just above the 5600x

this along with the 7950x's Eco Mode

results really shows how much being

efficient comes down to just the tuning

of the part losing efficiency could be

okay if you make up for it with raw

performance in this case that'd be the

time to complete the render so let's get

into that next our first production

Benchmark is blender where we measure

the completion time of a custom GM logo

render designed to provide good scaling

across various textures since we're

measuring time in this charge lower is

better the ryzen 5 7600 completed the

render in 16.7 minutes establishing

itself in the middle of our charge and

just ahead of the 5800x3d the extra cash

doesn't help here the 7600x is five

percent faster than the new 7600 non-x

showing the relatively minor uplifts

afforded by the extra power budget with

PBO applied to the 7600 the gap between

it and the 7600x Narrows to a

functionally meaningless level there's

still a technical advantage to the 7600x

but it's not enough for anyone to

actually notice the new 7600 is better

value than the original X whether or not

you apply PBO and looking generationally

the 7600 is at 26 faster than the 5600x

which launched at a price of three

hundred dollars motherboard costs remain

high but at least it's moving in the

right direction down for price that is

Intel's previous generation I5 12 600 K

finished the render 14 faster than the

7600 the 12600k is selling for about 250

right now making it a better deal for

this kind of workload the newer 13600k

which won our best overall CPU of 2022

tested at 36 percent faster than the

7600. it's a major uplift but the 90

difference between the 76 and the 136k

renders the comparison a little less

impactful if your budget is strict next

up is our code compile Benchmark where

we measure the time it takes to fully

compile chromium from a source lower is

again better overall the lineup is

mostly the same as in blender as it's

also a highly threaded task that said a

few Intel CPUs have traded places with

their nearest AMD neighbors the R5 7600

completed the task in 86.8 minutes tying

with the eight core 5800x six Zen four

cores can generally do the job of eight

Zen three cores in most but not all

situations and that remains true here

apply and PBO doesn't get as much out of

the 7600 as it did in blender it's

barely moving the needle the 7600x is

about five percent ahead of the non-x

here as well scaling versus the unlocked

i-5s is nearly identical the 12 600k

completed 14 faster than the 7600 and

the 136k was 37 faster you're making

Intel a better value at this price class

file compression is next we test using

7-Zip and the scores are in millions of

instructions per second or mips and the

higher is better the R5 7600 is

functionally tied with several other

CPUs including the 58x3d and the 12 6K

PBO doesn't change anything the 7600x

scrapes out a three percent lead over

the non-x for a tactical lead but not

one that matters the 12700 KF and the

7700x are faster but if you're stepping

up your budget into the low 300s you

might as well go for the 13600k as it

boasts a large 40 lead over the 7600.

decompression has better scaling between

CPUs and the stack the R5 7600 lands

predictably between in the 3700x and the

7600x on our chart and the 7600 holds a

16 lead over the 5600x showing decent

generational Improvement the non-x R5

also manages to beat the 12 600k for the

first time in our suite posting a six

percent advantage over the I5 due to

Zen's inherent gains in decompression

one interesting observation is that

compared to the compression test the

last gen 5800x with its eight cores

LeapFrogs the 7600 by 17 percent here

the 5800x can be had for around 240

bucks an hour and so on the less

expensive but dead on platform it's

worth considering still the 13600k as a

last Point runs 29 better than the 7600

But it's also a higher price tier our

last set of tests is in the Adobe suite

starting with Premiere the score is an

aggregate built from a standardized set

of filters transforms live playback and

scrubbing and more the 7600 lands near

the middle of our charge just be behind

the 5800x applying PBO gives it a tiny

bump but not one equal to a 7600x which

performed seven percent higher than the

non-x this gives the new R5 a better

value proposition bearing in mind the

pricing caveats mentioned earlier

despite the stronger overall value we

can't recommend the 7600 for Premiere as

a primary work function it's not as bad

as an entry point to am5 but you'd be

better served by Intel's I5 options the

12600k posts a 9 lead over the 7600 and

the 13600k is closer to a 20 lead as

Premier users ourselves we just think

it's worth going for the 136k instead

our final production test is Photoshop

which benefits from a mix of thread

count and single thread performance the

7600 performs respectively here beating

the 12 600k by seven percent the 7600x

shows a token two percent gain over the

7600 and PBO again it gets you barely

anything over stock you need to step up

to a 7700x or 13 about her k for

meaningfully better performance though

you'd have to spend well over 100 bucks

more to get either one we'd recommend

waiting to see our other ryzen 7000

non-x reviews first before making a

final decision and those will be up

within the next 12 to 24 hours or so the

R5 7600 is a meaningful entry point to

the am5 platform that doesn't give up a

whole lot versus the X alternative

except you do still have to put it into

an am5 motherboard which the prices on

those haven't really changed too much

they're supposed to come down and the

made a note of it in its CES keynote as

of right now when we're filming they're

not down maybe by the time the video

comes up they will be but the

motherboards need to move in price to

really make this valuable anyway the

retail price landscape is different from

what AMD is putting on paper and that's

where it gets a little different so we

prepared this chart to help illustrate

some of the differences if by the time

this review goes live the 7600x is back

to its original launch price of 300 that

makes the 7600 look really good you're

getting within about five percent of the

performance for seventy dollars less

it's even tighter in games however if

the 7600x is still available at around

240 bucks like it was for several weeks

at the end of 22 then it Paints the

non-x as hard to distinguish and lacking

purpose a 10 Gap isn't much to talk

about and we'd probably just pay that

for the marginal uplift out of the box

or even potentially better resale value

down the road that's something to

consider too if you tend to sell your

stuff when you're done with it having

the X at the end who knows obviously but

it might help a little bit with

negotiating for getting that extra 10

bucks back later when you go yeah but

it's the X version that's better and

then they go I don't know what any of

that means here's money gaming computer

man now in the next tier up once we

start considering Intel things get a

little more interesting for Andy so the

13600k maintains significant value at

this point it is more expensive but it's

better in several situations if you can

buy up and afford it keep in mind the

motherboards maybe you have some better

options there too to help level out the

price a little bit the 7700x on the AMD

side though is 350 to 400 we think it's

too expensive to be relevant in most

workloads uh it's probably the roughest

one that AMD has right now compared to

its own other parts and the Intel's

Parts but we'll talk about that more on

the 7700 review for a quick recap of

some of the numbers from earlier in the

video in blender we saw the 7600 was 26

faster than the 5600x the 7600 with PBO

was four percent faster on average than

the 7600 still in blender 7600x was five

percent faster 12 600k was 14 faster

which is still a good consideration and

the 136k was 36 percent faster big

difference in things like chromium code

compile we saw the 7600 was 25 faster

than the 56x and the rest of the results

were basically the same as in blender

with PBO we were down to only a two

percent Advantage though with the 7600

to the PBO version then in things like

Adobe Premiere we once again saw PBO

doing almost nothing and the 7600x was

seven percent better than the non-x as

for gaming the differences are even less

so here's a look at some of those charts

we saw earlier in general the 7600 it's

really similar to the 7600x there is not

much appreciable difference in most

instances PBO doesn't help as much as it

probably will on the 7900 we'll look at

that in the next couple reviews but

overall basically what it comes down to

is if there is a significant price cut

like more than twenty dollars the 7600

non-x starts to make a lot of sense if

it's like the same or 10 bucks maybe

just get the X and maybe it's slightly

better silicon quality if you're

interested in overclocking no guarantee

but any more than that it starts to make

sense just buy the non-x and then PBO or

overclock it if you really want the last

like percentage point or two so there

are some advantages in certain

situations to having a lower power CPU

out of the box most of them are its

lower power out of the box you plug it

in and you go and then if you're more

enthusiasting client you can tune it if

you want to you could also put the 7600x

into eco mode and basically got the same

power efficiency that you're seeing on

this CPU a lot of people like to say but

what about the cooler and the answer is

it's just not that good it's fine for 65

watt TDP 88 Watts actual out of the box

it'll work okay especially if your case

has actual airflow in it and it's got a

perforated front panel or better yet

holes in the top because it'll pull air

from the top if it's not exhaust then

the that cooler is fine but if you're

doing anything more with your system

like you're overclocking at PBO uh you

have more constrained case than a 20

cooler is a far better way to go but it

adds the cost of the product obviously

it's still cheaper than the xq because

you have to buy cooler for that one

anyway so that's it for this review this

is one of those where it's like uh yeah

it's it's better value we think and for

most enthusiasts we think you should

probably just save the money buy the

non-x if you really care then tune it

overclock it do PBO whatever and go for

those last few percentage points but at

least you save the money as long as

you're willing to put in maybe an hour

or so of tuning if you've done it before

probably a couple hours if you've never

done it before so that's it for this one

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