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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,000 On the 14th of January 2008, 2 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:12,600 Jonny Benjamin came to Waterloo Bridge 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 with the intention of throwing himself off. 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,720 A stranger stepped out of the rush hour crowd 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 and talked him out of it. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,640 His words stopped Jonny from taking his life. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,920 What happened next is an uplifting story 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,960 that Hollywood is now interested in turning into a movie. 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,960 But this is the actual story filmed as it unfolded. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,440 A story that shows that life is worth living. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Wonder if you could help at all? 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,680 Looking for a man that changed my life. 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,280 Thanks. 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Tomorrow we launch the campaign 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,560 and...I'm doing my live interviews, 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,480 which I'm...terrified... 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,880 I'm terrified about. 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,040 I'm just... 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,400 ..just scared that something's going to come out wrong 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,640 or I'm going to make a fool of myself 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,480 or...people won't like me. 22 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Find Mike, the name of the campaign launched today... 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,480 A man is searching for the kind stranger 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,040 who persuaded him not to jump off a bridge exactly six years ago. 25 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Jonny Benjamin joins us to talk about his mission to find Mike. 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,240 He was determined not to let me jump. 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,520 So he was just an ordinary bloke walking across Waterloo Bridge? 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,360 I just am so grateful to him for stopping and talking 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,320 and, um...giving me a different outlook that day, 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,680 cos it really was the moment that my recovery started. 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Is it just a case of just wanting to thank him? 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,600 I just want to give him a hug. 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,600 I just want to give him a hug and say how grateful I am. 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,240 What we know about this man is he was on Waterloo Bridge 35 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,000 in London on the 14th of January. 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,840 We're thinking back now to 2008. 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,000 You're going to give these flyers out later on? 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,720 I'm going to Waterloo Bridge around sort of 10am this morning. 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,400 Cheers. 40 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Thanks. 41 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,200 Can you help me find this man? 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 I'm trying to find this man that changed my life. 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Six years ago today, yeah. 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,360 You too. Thank you. 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,960 Yeah, well, I can't actually remember his name. 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,880 You know, it was pretty distressing. 47 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:57,960 All I know, I was 20 at the time, he was a few years older than me. 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,800 He was on his way to work. Good luck. Cheers. 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Oh, did you? 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,480 I know, it is! 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,640 Do you mind spreading this around? Thank you very much. 52 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,640 I hope so. 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,640 No, fair enough. 54 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Ah, thank you so much. Thank you. Cheers. 55 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Hi. 56 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,240 That's right. 57 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Oh, cheers. 58 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,640 How you doing now? 59 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,200 That's amazing! 60 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Well, that's great. 61 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Thank you. I really appreciate that 62 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,680 and you being so honest and open with me. 63 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Thank you so much. You take care of yourself. 64 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,800 What's your name? 65 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:24,440 Not yet, not yet. Fingers crossed, fingers crossed, 66 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,160 hopefully, hopefully! 67 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,240 I don't know. Thank you! 68 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 I'll take that as a compliment! 69 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,640 Please share this round the office if you can. Thanks. 70 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,080 Please spread this message. Thank you. 71 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Thank you. Thanks. 72 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Well, I just want to thank him, you know? 73 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:04,880 Do you know what, I can't remember. 74 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,640 I was really distressed at the time. 75 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 All I know he was sort of in his mid-20s, late 20s. 76 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,200 He was on his way to work. 77 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,720 That's it, that's it. 78 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,040 No, that's great. You don't realise the difference 79 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,160 you could make to someone. You never know. 80 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,000 Cheers, mate. 81 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,440 It is. It is. 82 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Absolutely. We're all human. 83 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Cheers, mate. It was really good to meet you. 84 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,200 See you soon. Cheers. Thank you. 85 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,360 We don't know his name. We don't know what he looks like. 86 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,120 He just happened to be walking past. 87 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,600 We don't know if that was the regular thing that he does 88 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,400 or whether he just happened to be in London 89 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,280 at that precise moment in time. 90 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Not only was the hashtag Find Mike trending, 91 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:15,480 but it touched the hearts of thousands of people. 92 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,080 I just can't believe the response. 93 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,040 I've had messages from all over the world. 94 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,440 It is just phenomenal. 95 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,640 So I've just been on breakfast TV for the second day in a row. 96 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,720 They actually asked me back because it got such a massive response 97 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,520 after my first appearance. 98 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,480 It's 8:53 and our guest this morning has a remarkable tale to tell 99 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,720 and he wants your help. 100 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,160 Jonny Benjamin is looking for the complete stranger 101 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,760 who talked him out of 102 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,080 throwing himself off Waterloo Bridge in London. 103 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,480 My memory from that day is so hazy. 104 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,720 Hearing from someone who was saying, you know, "It does get better," 105 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,040 was the turning point - no-one had ever said that to me before. 106 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,200 If you were either that man, that hero, 107 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,560 or you've heard that story and you think you know who that person is, 108 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,760 you can call us on 0207 224 2000 or go to Jonny's website. 109 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,840 This is a trends map of where the hashtag Find Mike is being used. 110 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,160 As you can see, it's spread to Australia already, South Africa. 111 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,640 The calls were just coming in all the time. 112 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Good afternoon to you, Jonny. Hiya, Larry. 113 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,600 What a story - just extraordinary. 114 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Was he an older guy, younger guy, same sort of age? 115 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,840 No, he was a young guy. You know, I was 20 at the time. 116 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,400 He was around my age, just a few years older than me. 117 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,160 He just reminded me of myself, really, and what I could be. 118 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,040 The search for the stranger who saved the life of this man... 119 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,080 He hopes his appeal will help jog someone's memory. 120 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,240 And if you think you can help Jonny Benjamin with his appeal, 121 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,440 you can find more details on the BBC London website. 122 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,040 I'm just overwhelmed by...the response. 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,480 I mean, I can't really... I can't really fathom it. 124 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,400 I don't really know where this campaign is going. 125 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,240 But it's...it's going. 126 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Within a few hours, someone comes forward saying that they are Mike. 127 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,320 They remember talking Jonny down off Waterloo Bridge. 128 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Then a few hours later, another person comes forward 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,240 saying THEY are Mike. 130 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,040 And then another. 131 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,040 And another. 132 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,640 Within a few days, Jonny has 38 possible Mikes. 133 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,360 I expected maybe the one person to come forward 134 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,040 and say, "This was me," 135 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,640 but I actually had quite a number of people come forward. 136 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,640 You have to be really careful with Jonny meeting those people 137 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:48,440 and have quite a high suspicion that they are Mike. 138 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,320 So we'd hope that you'd have lots of Mikes who had helped someone 139 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,160 through a similar situation, 140 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,840 but it might be you've got people that have their own agenda 141 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,440 or are just sort of rolling along with the sort of media interest. 142 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,080 While some of the people claiming to be Mike 143 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,960 turn out to not be quite as they seem, 144 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,240 the majority are ordinary people 145 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,040 who have helped someone else in distress. 146 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,520 After some investigation, 147 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:24,360 Jonny asks five of the most likely candidates to send in their photo. 148 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,840 I can't believe how nerve-wracking this is. 149 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,400 It's just, you know... 150 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,160 It's just the man that you thought about for so long 151 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 and the man who's like sort of... 152 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,600 had such a profound impact on you 153 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:47,600 and you could suddenly be about to recognise that person is... 154 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,080 ..scary. 155 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,560 Sorry. 156 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,880 Sorry. Shall we go for a break? 157 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,640 No, it's cool. 158 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,440 I'm going back to a place that... 159 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,520 It was the worst point of my life 160 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:13,240 and I've got to go back there 161 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,200 and...it's not easy. 162 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,720 I can see myself on the train. 163 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,640 I can see myself on the train, and I was... 164 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,600 You know, on the way up to do it, and I can see myself on the train, 165 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,320 and I'm already going back to that state of mind 166 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,160 where I was out of control. 167 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Not out of control, cos... No. 168 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,360 I just need to get it over and done with. 169 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,640 So...that's definitely not Mike. 170 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,120 OK, c'mon, c'mon. 171 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,680 No, I don't think that's him. 172 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,480 No. 173 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,600 No. 174 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,600 My God, it's not him. 175 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,640 Shit, I don't know. 176 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Oh, no, I don't know. 177 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Oh... Oh. 178 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,960 I don't know. I thought I'd know as soon as I saw that picture. 179 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,560 I thought... 180 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Oh, I don't know. 181 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:45,120 I know this one's definitely not him, cos he is too old and I know, 182 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,880 I know he wasn't that old. I know he wasn't that old. 183 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,440 God it makes you sort of go, like, you know, 184 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,680 cos sometimes in some interviews this week, people have said, 185 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,480 "Is it all in your head?" 186 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,240 And no, he wasn't. I know it wasn't. 187 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:05,720 It's silly to think that I'm just gonna immediately recognise Mike, 188 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,720 maybe, because... because I was in that... 189 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,200 ..that, that, that... place of despair 190 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,640 that I've completely blocked everything for six years. 191 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:22,240 You know, maybe it's going to take a lot more 192 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,720 to remember him than just the photos. 193 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Before I started this campaign, I never anticipated that 194 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,920 so many people would come forward and say, 195 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,560 "I've actually stopped someone from taking their life." 196 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,240 I just thought that Mike would come along and would say, 197 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,760 "Here I am." But no. I've got so many leads 198 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,400 and it's quite remarkable, 199 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,640 because it goes to show that there's many Mikes out there. 200 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,440 Jonny is not sure if any of the Mikes he's heard from 201 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,040 are the man he's looking for 202 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,160 and turns to the police for help with the identification. 203 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Oh, hi there. I'm trying to track down the police report 204 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,040 that might have been made after an incident that I was involved in. 205 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,040 The thing is, I don't know the officers that were involved in it. 206 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,880 This was an incident six years ago. 207 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,280 I just wanted to find out if it was any way possible 208 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,360 to get the details from the police report. 209 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,360 So the report might not even exist at all? 210 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,120 Yeah, but you've definitely got their name, 211 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,920 haven't you, in the report? 212 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,480 Just the number, not the actual name? 213 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,640 I didn't realise you didn't have his name, just his number, 214 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:50,440 and that doesn't even work, so... 215 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,440 But there'd be no way I could see that log because of data protection? 216 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,200 Sure, sure. 217 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,240 Cool, OK. Appreciate your time. Cheers, thanks. Bye. 218 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,920 If we think about everything that's going on for Jonny, 219 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,680 it's really not surprising that his emotional memory, 220 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,280 his procedural memory, 221 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,200 also isn't really recording things for him accurately. 222 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,840 So I really don't think it's surprising 223 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,120 that he doesn't recall the events and it's probably a protective mechanism. 224 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,320 Out of all the messages Jonny receives, 225 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,920 there's one that really stands out. 226 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,360 "Hi, Jonny. I might be wrong, but a guy at medical school 227 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,840 "around that time talked someone down off Waterloo Bridge. 228 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,480 "His name was Michael Samy - Mike Sammington. 229 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 "It may not be your guy, but either way, I'm glad you're OK 230 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,960 "and I hope you find your guardian angel." 231 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Hi, nice to meet you. Ruth. Come through. Thanks. Cheers. 232 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,240 How you doing? Not bad, thank you. Grab a seat. 233 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,720 Cool. Just here? Yeah. 234 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Sorry to take up your day. No problem. 235 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,200 So what do you actually remember your colleague 236 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,520 saying to you about that day? 237 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Um...so our medical school had a mixed hockey club. 238 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,560 Now, on the particular day in 2008, 239 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,560 we were talking about one of our colleagues, Mike. 240 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:50,600 The week before, he'd actually talked someone down off Waterloo Bridge. 241 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,600 And this led to him being nicknamed "Good Sam" 242 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,480 or "The Good Samaritan", 243 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,800 which is a name that went on the back of his shirt 244 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,160 and kind of stuck with him through medical school. 245 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,880 How old was he at the time? 246 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,040 I'm not sure exactly, but he will have been kind of early 20s. 247 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,200 A tall, thin, sort of fairly fit and athletic chap, 248 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,000 had kind of curly, wavy hair. Dark hair, dark eyes. 249 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,200 Oh, right, OK. Cos I've got such a poor recollection of... 250 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,080 I've got no recollection. 251 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,960 I imagine it was the last thing on your mind at the time. Yeah. 252 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Ruth's story matches up to what Jonny can remember, 253 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,760 and he asks to see the photos of Dr Mike. 254 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,520 So that's the chap. 255 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,000 I don't know whether this is ringing any bells. 256 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,360 It's probably difficult for you to know. Yeah, I just don't... 257 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,600 I mean, it would be interesting to speak to Mike 258 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,880 and see whether he recognises you, as that's probably more likely... 259 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Yeah, that's true. ..that he'd recognise you. 260 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,360 A bit more digging reveals that Dr Mike lives in Wolverhampton. 261 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Jonny sends him a message and he agrees to meet him in person. 262 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,080 This guy could be my Mike. 263 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,160 His name is actually Mike 264 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,080 and there's a few details in our stories that match up. 265 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:10,360 Um... 266 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,840 He was on Waterloo Bridge beginning of January 2008 267 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,080 and he was on his way to medical school 268 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,240 and stopped someone from taking their life on Waterloo Bridge. 269 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,760 It could be me. 270 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,840 So, yep, I'd like to find out. 271 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,400 Hi. How are you doing? 272 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,320 You OK? I'm Jonny. I'm Michael. Nice to meet you. 273 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:33,160 Lovely to meet you. Come in. You too. Cheers, thank you. 274 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Shall I just put my bag down or...? 275 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Yeah, go for it. Bring it in if you want. 276 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Cool, cool, cheers. Thanks. How you doing? 277 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,760 Yeah, not too bad, thanks. 278 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,960 It's strange trying to think back 279 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,680 and I was looking through... Quite frantically reading through 280 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:56,960 your Twitter page and looking at the various news articles and things. 281 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:05,560 And it kind of struck me quite... as very, very familiar, really. 282 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,720 I remember I actually froze still for a moment 283 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,400 with quite a bit of fear surrounding what I was about to see happen 284 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,560 in front of me. 285 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,960 And I thought, OK, wait a minute. We're all just staring. 286 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,080 Are we just going to watch this person kill himself in front of us 287 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:24,800 and take his own life? 288 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:31,360 I think I said something like, "Sir, you don't want to do this." 289 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,240 In response to that, he didn't say anything. 290 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,880 He looked me in the eyes 291 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,880 with an extremely...upset, kind of solemn face 292 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:52,240 and just looked at me for a moment, held a gaze. 293 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,320 And I remember really feeling upset by what I actually saw, 294 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:02,000 and him letting go with one hand 295 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,480 and swinging round so he was facing the water. 296 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:11,520 And at that moment, realising he's going to do this - 297 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,440 he's going to jump off. 298 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,640 I remember feeling, I have to stop this. 299 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,520 I jumped in and grabbed him. 300 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,120 He lost his grip and then I dragged him over 301 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:28,360 and he was trembling on the ground when I actually pulled him over. 302 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,480 I just remember him being extremely shocked 303 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,080 and just distraught on the floor, really. 304 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:50,080 Now, I don't know how much of that is something you can relate to or...? 305 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:54,320 Can I say it's such an amazing thing you did - 306 00:19:54,360 --> 00:20:00,680 to do that and to have the courage to do that is incredible. 307 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,000 I think there's some details that are different 308 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,760 between yours and mine. 309 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,600 Yeah, and reading up on you, on some of the deeper things... 310 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,400 I did juggle... Could it be me he's looking for? 311 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:23,280 I did see quite a few discrepancies between the details you gave. 312 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,680 I just wondered how much of that was recalled by us, 313 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:36,240 and how much of that was... what actually happened. 314 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,040 I just think that even if I don't get a chance to find 315 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,040 the person that I'm looking for and thank him personally, 316 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,120 at least I've thanked you. 317 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,040 I'm overjoyed at the response this whole campaign has got 318 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,840 in terms of people coming together and, um...supporting, 319 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,840 supporting this. It's just... 320 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680 I can't get my head around it. 321 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480 His words actually prompted my recovery. 322 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Now I need your help to find him. 323 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,800 He could have just kept on walking by, but his actions, 324 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,320 they changed my life. 325 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,360 Find Mike tops the trends in 25 different countries 326 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,640 and the hashtag becomes more popular than Beyonce and Obama. 327 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,880 But despite the interest in his story, the trail has gone cold. 328 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,120 I think it could be very difficult for Jonny 329 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,880 if he's not able to find Mike, 330 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320 because I think he's pinned a lot on finding Mike. 331 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:05,280 You can imagine that it might leave him vulnerable, 332 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,800 it might leave him feeling like he can't move forward. 333 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,720 I was so sure when I launched the campaign 334 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,960 just that one person would come forward and say, 335 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 "Yeah, it was me." 336 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,320 I get delusions and... 337 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,520 You know... 338 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,280 I think I can... 339 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,400 I think I can change the world, in my head. 340 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Something tells me, you know... 341 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:40,440 "You're some kind of superhuman." 342 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,480 And of course, in reality, I'm not. 343 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,960 Mike, he could have, as I say, could have walked by. 344 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,880 Hundreds of people probably did walk by, 345 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,120 but he stopped and took that moment 346 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,800 and because of the decision that he made at that time on that day, 347 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,840 that location, life for Jonny, for us, 348 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,480 for all the people that are affected by what Jonny does 349 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,920 and, you know, his family, his friends, his colleagues, 350 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,520 his followers, and all of that sort of thing 351 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 were affected by that one decision. 352 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,560 While the leads have dried up, the messages continue to pile in 353 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,200 from people coming forward for other reasons. 354 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,640 "Hi, Jonny. Just wanted to wish you luck in finding Mike. 355 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480 "You have obviously come a long way in the past six years 356 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240 "and I admire what you are doing 357 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040 "to educate the world about mental health. 358 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,480 "Our son Richard took his own life on the 14th of February 2008 359 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,240 "at the age of 21. 360 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,120 "If only someone had found the right words." 361 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,200 "Since seeing your Facebook message, 362 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040 "you have been on my mind all day. 363 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,160 "My husband took his own life the 24th January 2012. 364 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,920 "He had lost hope and could not see any other way. 365 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,200 "I had no idea that I was going to walk into that 366 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,000 "on a Tuesday night, to find my husband. 367 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,480 "I believe to this day that I am still in shock. 368 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080 "He left behind myself and an 18-month-old daughter, Olivia, 369 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,400 "and our worlds came crashing down. 370 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,520 "It was too late to save my husband, 371 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,720 "but thank God that man helped you that day. 372 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,040 "I hope that life has been kind to you since that day 373 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280 "and you have reflected on life and the impact that way out 374 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760 "would have had on others. I hope you find the man you're looking for 375 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,800 "and I just wanted to also send you a huge hug through an email." 376 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,600 There's one particular message that Jonny can't ignore. 377 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,480 "Hi, Jonny. Just a little note to say I've seen your quest to find the man 378 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,200 "who saved your life and it really struck a chord in me. 379 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,120 "Back in 2008, my twin brother Steven jumped off Tower Bridge 380 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,560 "on our 27th birthday in April. 381 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,000 "I've often wondered if anyone could have saved him or talked him down, 382 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,520 "but after years of research, I know that trying to find that answer 383 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600 "is an impossible task." 384 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,680 It just feels... 385 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,400 Yeah, it feels more than just about finding this stranger for me. 386 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,520 It's... 387 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:05,720 ..it's about...connecting with other people. 388 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,920 Compelled by her story, Jonny decides to visit her. 389 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,480 I carry a lot of guilt as someone who was left behind from suicide. 390 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,240 You carry a lot of guilt from that. 391 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,040 It hurts, because there's a lot of people left with questions, you see. 392 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,760 But I guess that at the time you were standing there, 393 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 you weren't thinking about that, were you? 394 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,120 No, no, no, no. Your head's just in... 395 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,280 such a confusing place. 396 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,560 The pain is so kind of intense 397 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:51,040 that nothing else can come into that kind of wall that's surrounding you. 398 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,720 You can't see anything... 399 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,440 No matter who it is, you just can't see over that wall. 400 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Do you feel like you couldn't have gone to anyone 401 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,800 leading up to you standing there? 402 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,400 The thing was, I didn't want to disappoint people. 403 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,720 That's the thing. It sounds strange, doesn't it? 404 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,680 I didn't want to disappoint the people around me 405 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,360 and say how I was really feeling. 406 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480 And I thought... 407 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,920 Um... Oh, yeah. 408 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,560 I didn't want to see their faces and see their reactions to that, 409 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240 knowing that I didn't want to be here any more. 410 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,760 It sounds like absolutely what Steven would say, 411 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,720 because he was so far out of my reach, I couldn't get to him. 412 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,440 He just closed up. 413 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,720 And now... I mean, everyone is different, 414 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,880 but through talking to you, you both went through the same things. 415 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,440 It's just so sad that, you know, people can just isolate themselves 416 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560 and turn their back on people that want to help, 417 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560 not through any kind of spite, 418 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560 but because you're embarrassed or you're afraid. 419 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,720 I get angry, because I wish he'd given me the chance, you know? 420 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Sure. And I wish he'd just said something, 421 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,960 instead of going into his shell. 422 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,120 I know that he did it around our birthday, which hurts me. 423 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,520 Because for ever, for ever and ever and ever, 424 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,200 my birthday will be tainted by the death of a twin 425 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,600 and it's like losing an arm. 426 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,400 Can I say something? Yeah. 427 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Hope you don't mind. No, do. 428 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,000 It's... 429 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,360 It's just the one thing I remember in going to the bridge 430 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,040 is that I kept saying to myself more than anything else... 431 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,960 ..more than anything else, I don't want my family to feel guilty. 432 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 That was the one thing that... 433 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520 ..I was so desperately clinging on to. 434 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:11,000 I just don't want them to feel at all responsible or guilty. 435 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320 That was the thing... 436 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240 The whole way, that journey was like... 437 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,720 I hope this is all right to say this? 438 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480 I think it's making me feel a lot better. 439 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,480 I always wondered why he didn't leave me a note. 440 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,720 You know? And so many people said he wasn't in that headspace right then 441 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,360 to even leave a note. 442 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480 Did you plan...? 443 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480 Today I'm gonna die - is that what you thought? 444 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,840 I did, yeah. 445 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440 I did the night before. 446 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Yeah. I did the night before. 447 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520 I planned it all out. 448 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800 I just got to the stage where... 449 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,320 I saw the only way that I could achieve peace was... 450 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,040 Because you're so desperate to find peace, you know. 451 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160 How can you hide that? 452 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120 This is what... I'm amazed. How can you hide that? 453 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200 How can you just hide that from anyone? 454 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,120 I just... I was scared, so I didn't tell them, 455 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960 and, yeah, there were so many opportunities that evening 456 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 and that next morning to tell people, 457 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,520 but as I was saying, I had that in my head. 458 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,120 I saw that as the only way out of it. 459 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,920 I just couldn't see past that moment on the bridge. 460 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,800 It was... 461 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,640 I was sort of drawn towards it. 462 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880 No-one's ever spoken to me like this. 463 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240 You're giving me an insight that I haven't seen. 464 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,840 As long as it's all right? 465 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Yeah, of course. I just don't want you to get upset. No, no, not at all. 466 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,000 It's good for me to talk about it as well. 467 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Are you ever scared that it will come back, 468 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320 or is that something that's...? 469 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000 Do you know what, I've been suicidal again since that day, 470 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000 but now I say... 471 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640 Sorry. I say, "This is how I'm feeling." 472 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,360 Because I know that I've done it before and can do it again. 473 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200 But you know to ask for help now? 474 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,440 I know that... 475 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,480 I can say the words, "I'm feeling suicidal at the moment" and... 476 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320 and that's the difference. That's what I couldn't say before. 477 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Having all but given up hope of finding Mike, 478 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Jonny checks a message in his inbox. 479 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,880 Although his name's not Mike, everything else finally fits. 480 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,480 For six years, Jonny has been dreaming of the moment 481 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,000 when he might meet the man who helped turn his life around. 482 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Since launching his search, 483 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,920 his story has been followed by 319 million people around the world. 484 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,200 It has produced leads from far and wide 485 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,960 that he's pursued and ultimately discarded. 486 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Now he's about to meet the man he thinks could be his Mike. 487 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,400 This guy is probably the strongest lead 488 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,720 and is potentially the man that I'm looking for, 489 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,360 so there's a lot riding on today. 490 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,480 It's just a very surreal sort of feeling 491 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,960 and, um... 492 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,680 I'm petrified, to be honest. I'm petrified. 493 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,440 No. Not really. 494 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280 No, I am ready. Sorry. 495 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Not really. No. 496 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920 You can never be ready for a moment like this, to be honest. 497 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400 I'd like to give him a hug. 498 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,400 Although I don't know if that's too awkward. 499 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,880 I'd like to, but I don't know. 500 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,520 I'll just kind of see how it goes. 501 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,040 I mean, I'm not especially a touchy-feely persee... Persee?! 502 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Sorry. 503 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560 When I greet him, I would like to give him a hug, 504 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,360 but just have to see how it goes. 505 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,120 He might not want to have a hug, which is fair enough. 506 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960 Might not want me jumping on him, 507 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,440 which is completely understandable. 508 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,840 It'd be nice to maybe give him a hug. 509 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,440 Definitely a handshake, but a hug would be nice. 510 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,720 Hiya. How you doing? Good. 511 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680 How are you? I'm all right. 512 00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:59,600 Good. 513 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920 It all makes sense. 514 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,080 Fucking hell, yeah. Sorry, didn't mean to swear. No, that's fine. 515 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,160 How you doing? I'm fine, I'm fine. 516 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,720 It's fantastic to see you. Fantastic to see you. 517 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200 Really good, really good. I feel nervous. 518 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,160 I saw you on the TV. I saw you speaking on the TV. 519 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,280 Don't be nervous, honestly. It was really nice things you said. 520 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,120 And you know... 521 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,120 It's so strange to see you again, 522 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,800 but it seems like only good things have happened for you. 523 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Yeah, well. Do you want to take a seat? Absolutely. 524 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,160 Wow. How are you doing? I'm fine, I'm fine. 525 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,800 Yeah? Absolutely. Thanks so much for... 526 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,920 God. It's all coming back. 527 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,360 Yeah? Mmm. 528 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,200 Yeah. Wow. 529 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,480 I can't imagine how it must feel, you know, to be reliving it, 530 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080 you know. Sorry. No... 531 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,280 It's just unbelievable. Oh, my God! 532 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,800 Do you remember me? Yeah. Now I've seen you, it's all coming back. 533 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,440 You standing at the side of me. 534 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Cos before it was such a hazy memory, 535 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,360 and now it's all coming back 536 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,680 and I can see you there on the side of the bridge. 537 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680 Wow! It's amazing. 538 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,160 I completely had a blank of what you look like. 539 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,520 It was really cold that day, mate. I don't know if you remember. 540 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Do you remember how cold it was? Yeah, I remember. 541 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,200 I saw you sitting there on the bridge and, you know, 542 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,160 I knew straight away. Like, it came into my vision, 543 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,600 and I knew what was happening straight away. 544 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,480 And I didn't think I'd get to you 545 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,560 because there was quite a distance between us. 546 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,520 And I kept walking and walking and walking 547 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,400 and there were people walking past you all the time. 548 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,440 And then I got up to you and... 549 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,400 I don't know if you want me to tell you what happened. 550 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480 Yeah, no, no... 551 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:18,440 I sort of have a memory of me going to, like, the middle of the bridge 552 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600 and stepping over the barrier and standing on the edge 553 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,400 and my hands were behind. 554 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,600 I don't know if that's... 555 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,920 Like this. Like, I mean... 556 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,480 I walked up to you and I said, "Why are you sitting on the bridge?" 557 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,840 You know? And you told me straight away you were going to jump. 558 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,280 And I just thought, 559 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,280 "There's no way I'm gonna let this guy jump off today. 560 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,680 "There's no way, not if I'm standing here." 561 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,760 You know... And then you started to tell me about yourself. 562 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,640 Did I? What did I say? 563 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,120 Yeah, cos I asked you. You told me you'd run away. 564 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520 Did I say where I'd run away from? 565 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120 You said you'd run away from a hospital. 566 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,160 I'd just been diagnosed with schizophrenia a month before 567 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,200 I ran away to the bridge, 568 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,240 and...I was put into hospital and... 569 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,240 It was such a scary time. 570 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,400 I didn't know that I was ill. I had no idea that I was ill. 571 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,160 I was hearing a voice in my head. 572 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,240 I was having delusions and I thought I was... 573 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Do you know The Truman Show? Yeah. 574 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,880 I thought I was in own version of The Truman Show. 575 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,560 This had been going on for 10 years. 576 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,280 It got to the point where I couldn't cope and couldn't look after myself. 577 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,760 I didn't realise I was so ill. And, um... 578 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520 Basically, I had a psychosis 579 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,360 and thought I was being possessed by the devil. 580 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,160 And I...didn't tell family and friends. 581 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,880 I just thought that the voice I was hearing was real. 582 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,360 So did you think, "This is not right," 583 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,680 or were you like, "This is fine, because this is the way it is?" 584 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,400 You didn't know any better? I didn't know any better. 585 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,120 I thought that everyone heard a voice in their heads, 586 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,080 so when the psychiatrist said to me, 587 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,160 "It's all in your head. It's not real," 588 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920 it was such a massive shock. 589 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,480 I was like, "Yeah, but we all hear a voice, don't we?" 590 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,200 It's just that I'd been maybe granted a... 591 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,000 I thought I was hearing the devil, 592 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200 so I just thought I'd been granted a bad voice. 593 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,640 But he was like, "No, it's all in your head." 594 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,480 I couldn't take it in. 595 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,920 I felt like my life had been a lie and I didn't know who I was. 596 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,040 It was just such a difficult time. I was petrified. 597 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,760 But...yeah... 598 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,360 ..it was you saying to me, "You can get through it." 599 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,560 Suddenly, like, my whole perspective changed 600 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,000 and I was like... 601 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,160 This stranger that I'd never met and who doesn't know anything about me 602 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,280 is telling me I'll be OK and I can get through it 603 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,040 and just stopping, just talking to me, 604 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,240 just giving me that time of day and saying to me, 605 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,000 "There's another way, and it can get better." 606 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,920 Honestly, from that day... 607 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,640 It restored my faith in humanity and I wouldn't be here 608 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,600 if you didn't stop. 609 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,760 I think that's the most incredible thing, 610 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560 which I'm trying to get my head around. 611 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560 You know... 612 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640 It's nice to know that somehow I've made a difference. 613 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,960 You have. You've made an incredible difference. 614 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,600 It must have been awful for you, mate. You know? 615 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,360 Sounds like you... 616 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,400 And now, you know, you're, you're dealing with it. 617 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,160 You know, it's testament. 618 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,720 You know? Yeah. 619 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,960 I'm really proud of you. 620 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,440 Ah. Thank you. 621 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:28,720 It's so strange, cos it feels kind of like we're friends 622 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,840 and yet...it's only the second time I've met you. 623 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,920 Well, I have a feeling we will be now. Definitely. 624 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,800 Found him. 625 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,560 Found him. 626 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,480 I found Mike. 627 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,600 Everyone... Well, most people probably want to meet their heroes. 628 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,800 I have met mine. 629 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,560 I have met mine today. 630 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,080 That's amazing. 631 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,040 I just feel... 632 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,760 on top of the world. 633 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,240 The campaign has been so huge 634 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,360 and feels like the start of something, maybe? 635 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,000 "Dear Jonny, Thank you for reminding all of us how life-changing 636 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,480 "a random act of kindness can be." 637 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640 "I would like to take the time to share with you 638 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,400 "just how much his story touched me over here in Canada. 639 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,480 "The day I had decided to take my life 640 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,800 "was the sombre day of Sept 12th 2002, 641 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520 "in order to relieve the pain I was going through 642 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,640 "due to the voices inside my head. 643 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,280 "Living with a mental illness is rough at times, 644 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,880 "but you determine your life's path, not your illness." 645 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,920 "Jonny, man, I just want to say 646 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,040 "thanks for being there when I was going through my difficult times. 647 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,760 "I can't even describe how helpful it's been to get to know, 648 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,720 "meet and connect with someone like you who understands so much 649 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,400 "about what I've been going through these past few years." 650 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,720 "Thanks for showing there's help for people with severe mental illnesses. 651 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,520 "Good luck and God bless." 652 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,720 "Hi, Jonny. I just wanted to drop you a quick line 653 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,400 "to thank you for the various steps you've taken 654 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,480 "over the past few weeks to highlight mental health issues. 655 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,400 "I'm currently going through the early part of recovery stages 656 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,280 "from depression, where I too was ready to take my own life. 657 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,320 "I've seen a doctor, and now they are referring me to counselling, 658 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,440 "which I believe is the right thing for me. 659 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,120 "Well, I think so anyhow. 660 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,120 "Watching your story unfold stopped me from talking my own life, 661 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,560 "so a massive thank you." 662 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:04,480 It feels like that chapter is almost closed now. 663 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,600 Those six years ago. Everything that I went through. 664 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,680 It's a complete contrast to the feelings 665 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,600 that I had that day when I first met Neil. 666 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,880 Complete contrast. 667 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,080 I was completely at rock bottom. 668 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,120 And now, I'm so happy. 669 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,800 I feel like I've gone full circle. 670 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,800 It's just amazing to be able to say that, I think. 671 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,840 When you've gone through something that's such a bad period 672 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,400 and you can look back and realise... 673 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,440 I realise how sort of...how far I've come, I guess. 674 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,600 Every day, more than a quarter of a million people 675 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,600 pass through Waterloo. 676 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,560 Sometimes when we are part of a crowd 677 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,400 and we see someone in trouble, it's easier to walk on by. 678 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,720 But we actually all have a choice. 679 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,640 The truth is, any of us could be a Mike. 680 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400 Though there are times I still struggle, 681 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160 I know that I can overcome any adversity in life. 682 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440 This is all thanks to one man who showed me that life does get better. 683 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,880 Now I want to offer that same message to others who need it. 684 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,400 That in spite of the hard times, life really is worth living. 685 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,080 # Someway, baby, it's part of me Apart from me 686 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,840 # You're laying waste to Halloween 687 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,600 # You fucked it, friend It's on it's head 688 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,120 # It struck the street 689 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,280 # You're in Milwaukee Off your feet 690 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080 # And at once I knew 691 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,000 # I was not magnificent... # 692 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,120 Subtitles by Ericsson 53986

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