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On the 14th of January 2008,
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Jonny Benjamin
came to Waterloo Bridge
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with the intention
of throwing himself off.
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A stranger stepped out
of the rush hour crowd
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and talked him out of it.
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His words stopped Jonny
from taking his life.
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What happened next
is an uplifting story
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that Hollywood is now interested
in turning into a movie.
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But this is the actual story
filmed as it unfolded.
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A story that shows
that life is worth living.
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Wonder if you could help at all?
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Looking for a man
that changed my life.
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Thanks.
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Tomorrow we launch the campaign
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and...I'm doing my live interviews,
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which I'm...terrified...
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I'm terrified about.
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I'm just...
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..just scared that something's
going to come out wrong
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or I'm going to make
a fool of myself
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or...people won't like me.
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Find Mike, the name of the
campaign launched today...
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A man is searching
for the kind stranger
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who persuaded him not to jump off
a bridge exactly six years ago.
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Jonny Benjamin joins us to talk
about his mission to find Mike.
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He was determined
not to let me jump.
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So he was just an ordinary bloke
walking across Waterloo Bridge?
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I just am so grateful to him
for stopping and talking
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and, um...giving me
a different outlook that day,
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cos it really was the moment
that my recovery started.
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Is it just a case of
just wanting to thank him?
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I just want to give him a hug.
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I just want to give him a hug
and say how grateful I am.
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What we know about this man
is he was on Waterloo Bridge
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in London on the 14th of January.
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We're thinking back now to 2008.
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You're going to give
these flyers out later on?
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I'm going to Waterloo Bridge
around sort of 10am this morning.
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Cheers.
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Thanks.
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Can you help me find this man?
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I'm trying to find this man
that changed my life.
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Six years ago today, yeah.
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You too. Thank you.
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Yeah, well, I can't
actually remember his name.
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You know, it was pretty distressing.
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All I know, I was 20 at the time,
he was a few years older than me.
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He was on his way to work.
Good luck. Cheers.
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Oh, did you?
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I know, it is!
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Do you mind spreading this around?
Thank you very much.
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I hope so.
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No, fair enough.
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Ah, thank you so much. Thank you.
Cheers.
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Hi.
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That's right.
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Oh, cheers.
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How you doing now?
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That's amazing!
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Well, that's great.
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Thank you. I really appreciate that
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and you being so honest
and open with me.
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Thank you so much.
You take care of yourself.
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What's your name?
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Not yet, not yet.
Fingers crossed, fingers crossed,
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hopefully, hopefully!
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I don't know. Thank you!
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I'll take that as a compliment!
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Please share this round the office
if you can. Thanks.
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Please spread this message.
Thank you.
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Thank you. Thanks.
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Well, I just want to thank him,
you know?
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Do you know what, I can't remember.
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I was really distressed
at the time.
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All I know he was sort of
in his mid-20s, late 20s.
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He was on his way to work.
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That's it, that's it.
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No, that's great.
You don't realise the difference
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you could make to someone.
You never know.
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Cheers, mate.
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It is. It is.
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Absolutely. We're all human.
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Cheers, mate. It was really good
to meet you.
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See you soon. Cheers. Thank you.
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We don't know his name.
We don't know what he looks like.
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He just happened to be walking past.
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We don't know if that was the
regular thing that he does
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or whether he just happened
to be in London
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at that precise moment in time.
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Not only was the hashtag Find Mike
trending,
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but it touched the
hearts of thousands of people.
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I just can't believe the response.
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I've had messages
from all over the world.
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It is just phenomenal.
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So I've just been on breakfast TV
for the second day in a row.
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They actually asked me back because
it got such a massive response
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after my first appearance.
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It's 8:53 and our guest this morning
has a remarkable tale to tell
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and he wants your help.
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Jonny Benjamin is looking for
the complete stranger
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who talked him out of
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throwing himself off
Waterloo Bridge in London.
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My memory from that day is so hazy.
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Hearing from someone who was saying,
you know, "It does get better,"
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was the turning point - no-one
had ever said that to me before.
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If you were either that man,
that hero,
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or you've heard that story and you
think you know who that person is,
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you can call us on 0207 224 2000
or go to Jonny's website.
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This is a trends map of where the
hashtag Find Mike is being used.
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As you can see, it's spread to
Australia already, South Africa.
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The calls were just
coming in all the time.
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Good afternoon to you, Jonny.
Hiya, Larry.
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What a story - just extraordinary.
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Was he an older guy, younger guy,
same sort of age?
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No, he was a young guy.
You know, I was 20 at the time.
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He was around my age,
just a few years older than me.
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He just reminded me of myself,
really, and what I could be.
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The search for the stranger who
saved the life of this man...
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He hopes his appeal will help jog
someone's memory.
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And if you think you can help
Jonny Benjamin with his appeal,
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you can find more details
on the BBC London website.
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I'm just overwhelmed
by...the response.
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I mean, I can't really...
I can't really fathom it.
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I don't really know
where this campaign is going.
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But it's...it's going.
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Within a few hours, someone comes
forward saying that they are Mike.
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They remember talking Jonny down
off Waterloo Bridge.
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Then a few hours later,
another person comes forward
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saying THEY are Mike.
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And then another.
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And another.
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Within a few days,
Jonny has 38 possible Mikes.
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I expected maybe the one person
to come forward
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and say, "This was me,"
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but I actually had quite a number
of people come forward.
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You have to be really careful
with Jonny meeting those people
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and have quite a high suspicion
that they are Mike.
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So we'd hope that you'd have lots of
Mikes who had helped someone
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through a similar situation,
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but it might be you've got people
that have their own agenda
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or are just sort of rolling along
with the sort of media interest.
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While some of the people
claiming to be Mike
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turn out to not be
quite as they seem,
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the majority are ordinary people
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who have helped someone else
in distress.
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After some investigation,
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Jonny asks five of the most likely
candidates to send in their photo.
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I can't believe how
nerve-wracking this is.
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It's just, you know...
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It's just the man that
you thought about for so long
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and the man who's like sort of...
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had such a profound impact on you
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and you could suddenly be about to
recognise that person is...
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..scary.
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Sorry.
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Sorry. Shall we go for a break?
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No, it's cool.
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I'm going back to a place that...
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It was the worst point of my life
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and I've got to go back there
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and...it's not easy.
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I can see myself on the train.
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I can see myself on the train,
and I was...
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You know, on the way up to do it,
and I can see myself on the train,
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and I'm already going back
to that state of mind
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where I was out of control.
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Not out of control, cos... No.
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I just need
to get it over and done with.
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So...that's definitely not Mike.
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OK, c'mon, c'mon.
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No, I don't think that's him.
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No.
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No.
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My God, it's not him.
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Shit, I don't know.
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Oh, no, I don't know.
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Oh... Oh.
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I don't know. I thought I'd know
as soon as I saw that picture.
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I thought...
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Oh, I don't know.
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I know this one's definitely not
him, cos he is too old and I know,
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I know he wasn't that old.
I know he wasn't that old.
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God it makes you sort of go,
like, you know,
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cos sometimes in some interviews
this week, people have said,
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"Is it all in your head?"
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And no, he wasn't. I know it wasn't.
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It's silly to think that I'm just
gonna immediately recognise Mike,
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maybe, because...
because I was in that...
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..that, that, that...
place of despair
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that I've completely blocked
everything for six years.
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You know, maybe it's going to
take a lot more
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to remember him
than just the photos.
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Before I started this campaign,
I never anticipated that
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so many people would come forward
and say,
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"I've actually stopped
someone from taking their life."
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I just thought that Mike
would come along and would say,
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"Here I am." But no.
I've got so many leads
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and it's quite remarkable,
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because it goes to show
that there's many Mikes out there.
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Jonny is not sure
if any of the Mikes he's heard from
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are the man he's looking for
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and turns to the police for help
with the identification.
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Oh, hi there. I'm trying to
track down the police report
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that might have been made after an
incident that I was involved in.
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The thing is, I don't know the
officers that were involved in it.
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This was an incident six years ago.
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I just wanted to find out
if it was any way possible
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to get the details
from the police report.
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So the report might not
even exist at all?
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Yeah, but you've definitely got
their name,
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haven't you, in the report?
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Just the number,
not the actual name?
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I didn't realise you didn't have
his name, just his number,
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and that doesn't even work, so...
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But there'd be no way I could see
that log because of data protection?
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Sure, sure.
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Cool, OK. Appreciate your time.
Cheers, thanks. Bye.
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If we think about everything
that's going on for Jonny,
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it's really not surprising
that his emotional memory,
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his procedural memory,
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also isn't really recording things
for him accurately.
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So I really don't think
it's surprising
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that he doesn't recall the events and
it's probably a protective mechanism.
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Out of all the messages
Jonny receives,
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there's one that really stands out.
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"Hi, Jonny. I might be wrong,
but a guy at medical school
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"around that time talked someone down
off Waterloo Bridge.
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"His name was Michael Samy -
Mike Sammington.
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"It may not be your guy,
but either way, I'm glad you're OK
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"and I hope you find
your guardian angel."
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Hi, nice to meet you. Ruth.
Come through. Thanks. Cheers.
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How you doing? Not bad, thank you.
Grab a seat.
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Cool. Just here? Yeah.
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Sorry to take up your day.
No problem.
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So what do you actually remember
your colleague
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saying to you about that day?
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Um...so our medical school
had a mixed hockey club.
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Now, on the particular day in 2008,
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we were talking about
one of our colleagues, Mike.
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The week before, he'd actually talked
someone down off Waterloo Bridge.
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And this led to him being
nicknamed "Good Sam"
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or "The Good Samaritan",
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which is a name that went
on the back of his shirt
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and kind of stuck with him
through medical school.
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How old was he at the time?
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I'm not sure exactly, but he will
have been kind of early 20s.
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A tall, thin, sort of fairly fit
and athletic chap,
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had kind of curly, wavy hair.
Dark hair, dark eyes.
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Oh, right, OK. Cos I've got such
a poor recollection of...
250
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I've got no recollection.
251
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I imagine it was the last thing
on your mind at the time. Yeah.
252
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Ruth's story matches up
to what Jonny can remember,
253
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and he asks to see the photos
of Dr Mike.
254
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So that's the chap.
255
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I don't know whether
this is ringing any bells.
256
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It's probably difficult for you
to know. Yeah, I just don't...
257
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I mean, it would be interesting
to speak to Mike
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and see whether he recognises you,
as that's probably more likely...
259
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Yeah, that's true.
..that he'd recognise you.
260
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A bit more digging reveals that
Dr Mike lives in Wolverhampton.
261
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Jonny sends him a message
and he agrees to meet him in person.
262
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This guy could be my Mike.
263
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His name is actually Mike
264
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and there's a few details
in our stories that match up.
265
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Um...
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He was on Waterloo Bridge
beginning of January 2008
267
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and he was on his way
to medical school
268
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and stopped someone from taking
their life on Waterloo Bridge.
269
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It could be me.
270
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So, yep, I'd like to find out.
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Hi. How are you doing?
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You OK? I'm Jonny. I'm Michael.
Nice to meet you.
273
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Lovely to meet you. Come in.
You too. Cheers, thank you.
274
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Shall I just put my bag down or...?
275
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Yeah, go for it.
Bring it in if you want.
276
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Cool, cool, cheers. Thanks.
How you doing?
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Yeah, not too bad, thanks.
278
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It's strange trying to think back
279
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and I was looking through...
Quite frantically reading through
280
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your Twitter page and looking at the
various news articles and things.
281
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And it kind of struck me quite...
as very, very familiar, really.
282
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I remember I actually froze still
for a moment
283
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,400
with quite a bit of fear surrounding
what I was about to see happen
284
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in front of me.
285
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,960
And I thought, OK, wait a minute.
We're all just staring.
286
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Are we just going to watch this
person kill himself in front of us
287
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and take his own life?
288
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I think I said something like,
"Sir, you don't want to do this."
289
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In response to that,
he didn't say anything.
290
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He looked me in the eyes
291
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,880
with an extremely...upset,
kind of solemn face
292
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and just looked at me for a moment,
held a gaze.
293
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And I remember really feeling upset
by what I actually saw,
294
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and him letting go with one hand
295
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and swinging round
so he was facing the water.
296
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And at that moment,
realising he's going to do this -
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he's going to jump off.
298
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,640
I remember feeling,
I have to stop this.
299
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I jumped in and grabbed him.
300
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,120
He lost his grip
and then I dragged him over
301
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:28,360
and he was trembling on the ground
when I actually pulled him over.
302
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,480
I just remember him
being extremely shocked
303
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,080
and just distraught on the floor,
really.
304
00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:50,080
Now, I don't know how much of that
is something you can relate to or...?
305
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:54,320
Can I say it's such
an amazing thing you did -
306
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to do that and to have the courage
to do that is incredible.
307
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,000
I think there's some details
that are different
308
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,760
between yours and mine.
309
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,600
Yeah, and reading up on you,
on some of the deeper things...
310
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,400
I did juggle...
Could it be me he's looking for?
311
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:23,280
I did see quite a few discrepancies
between the details you gave.
312
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I just wondered how much of that
was recalled by us,
313
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:36,240
and how much of that was...
what actually happened.
314
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,040
I just think that even if
I don't get a chance to find
315
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,040
the person that I'm looking for
and thank him personally,
316
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,120
at least I've thanked you.
317
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,040
I'm overjoyed at the response
this whole campaign has got
318
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,840
in terms of people coming together
and, um...supporting,
319
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,840
supporting this. It's just...
320
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680
I can't get my head around it.
321
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480
His words actually
prompted my recovery.
322
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Now I need your help to find him.
323
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,800
He could have just kept on
walking by, but his actions,
324
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,320
they changed my life.
325
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,360
Find Mike tops the trends
in 25 different countries
326
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,640
and the hashtag becomes more
popular than Beyonce and Obama.
327
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,880
But despite the interest in his
story, the trail has gone cold.
328
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,120
I think it could be very difficult
for Jonny
329
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,880
if he's not able to find Mike,
330
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320
because I think he's pinned a lot
on finding Mike.
331
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:05,280
You can imagine that it might
leave him vulnerable,
332
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,800
it might leave him feeling
like he can't move forward.
333
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,720
I was so sure
when I launched the campaign
334
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,960
just that one person would come
forward and say,
335
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
"Yeah, it was me."
336
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,320
I get delusions and...
337
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,520
You know...
338
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,280
I think I can...
339
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,400
I think I can change the world,
in my head.
340
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,560
Something tells me, you know...
341
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:40,440
"You're some kind of superhuman."
342
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,480
And of course, in reality, I'm not.
343
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,960
Mike, he could have, as I say,
could have walked by.
344
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,880
Hundreds of people
probably did walk by,
345
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,120
but he stopped
and took that moment
346
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,800
and because of the decision that
he made at that time on that day,
347
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,840
that location,
life for Jonny, for us,
348
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,480
for all the people that are affected
by what Jonny does
349
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,920
and, you know, his family,
his friends, his colleagues,
350
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,520
his followers,
and all of that sort of thing
351
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320
were affected by that one decision.
352
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,560
While the leads have dried up,
the messages continue to pile in
353
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,200
from people coming forward
for other reasons.
354
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,640
"Hi, Jonny. Just wanted to wish you
luck in finding Mike.
355
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480
"You have obviously come a long way
in the past six years
356
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240
"and I admire what you are doing
357
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040
"to educate the world
about mental health.
358
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,480
"Our son Richard took his own life
on the 14th of February 2008
359
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,240
"at the age of 21.
360
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,120
"If only someone had found
the right words."
361
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,200
"Since seeing your Facebook message,
362
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040
"you have been on my mind
all day.
363
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,160
"My husband took his own life
the 24th January 2012.
364
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,920
"He had lost hope
and could not see any other way.
365
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,200
"I had no idea that I was going
to walk into that
366
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,000
"on a Tuesday night,
to find my husband.
367
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,480
"I believe to this day
that I am still in shock.
368
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080
"He left behind myself and an
18-month-old daughter, Olivia,
369
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,400
"and our worlds came crashing down.
370
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,520
"It was too late to save my husband,
371
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,720
"but thank God
that man helped you that day.
372
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,040
"I hope that life has been kind
to you since that day
373
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280
"and you have reflected on life
and the impact that way out
374
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760
"would have had on others. I hope
you find the man you're looking for
375
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,800
"and I just wanted to also send you
a huge hug through an email."
376
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,600
There's one particular message
that Jonny can't ignore.
377
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,480
"Hi, Jonny. Just a little note to say
I've seen your quest to find the man
378
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,200
"who saved your life and it really
struck a chord in me.
379
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,120
"Back in 2008, my twin brother Steven
jumped off Tower Bridge
380
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,560
"on our 27th birthday in April.
381
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,000
"I've often wondered if anyone could
have saved him or talked him down,
382
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,520
"but after years of research, I know
that trying to find that answer
383
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600
"is an impossible task."
384
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,680
It just feels...
385
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,400
Yeah, it feels more than just about
finding this stranger for me.
386
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,520
It's...
387
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:05,720
..it's about...connecting
with other people.
388
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,920
Compelled by her story,
Jonny decides to visit her.
389
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,480
I carry a lot of guilt as someone
who was left behind from suicide.
390
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,240
You carry a lot of guilt from that.
391
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,040
It hurts, because there's a lot of
people left with questions, you see.
392
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,760
But I guess that at the time
you were standing there,
393
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840
you weren't thinking about that,
were you?
394
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,120
No, no, no, no.
Your head's just in...
395
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,280
such a confusing place.
396
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,560
The pain is so kind of intense
397
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:51,040
that nothing else can come into that
kind of wall that's surrounding you.
398
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,720
You can't see anything...
399
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,440
No matter who it is, you just can't
see over that wall.
400
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,440
Do you feel like you couldn't have
gone to anyone
401
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,800
leading up to you standing there?
402
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,400
The thing was, I didn't want to
disappoint people.
403
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,720
That's the thing.
It sounds strange, doesn't it?
404
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,680
I didn't want to disappoint
the people around me
405
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,360
and say how I was really feeling.
406
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480
And I thought...
407
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Um... Oh, yeah.
408
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,560
I didn't want to see their faces
and see their reactions to that,
409
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240
knowing that I didn't
want to be here any more.
410
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,760
It sounds like absolutely
what Steven would say,
411
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,720
because he was so far out of
my reach, I couldn't get to him.
412
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,440
He just closed up.
413
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,720
And now...
I mean, everyone is different,
414
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,880
but through talking to you, you both
went through the same things.
415
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,440
It's just so sad that, you know,
people can just isolate themselves
416
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,560
and turn their back on people
that want to help,
417
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560
not through any kind of spite,
418
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
but because you're embarrassed
or you're afraid.
419
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,720
I get angry, because I wish
he'd given me the chance, you know?
420
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Sure. And I wish he'd just
said something,
421
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,960
instead of going into his shell.
422
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,120
I know that he did it around
our birthday, which hurts me.
423
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Because for ever,
for ever and ever and ever,
424
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,200
my birthday will be
tainted by the death of a twin
425
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,600
and it's like losing an arm.
426
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,400
Can I say something? Yeah.
427
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,680
Hope you don't mind. No, do.
428
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,000
It's...
429
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,360
It's just the one thing I remember
in going to the bridge
430
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,040
is that I kept saying to myself
more than anything else...
431
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,960
..more than anything else, I
don't want my family to feel guilty.
432
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160
That was the one thing that...
433
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520
..I was so desperately
clinging on to.
434
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:11,000
I just don't want them to feel
at all responsible or guilty.
435
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320
That was the thing...
436
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240
The whole way,
that journey was like...
437
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,720
I hope this is all right
to say this?
438
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480
I think it's making me feel
a lot better.
439
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,480
I always wondered why
he didn't leave me a note.
440
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,720
You know? And so many people said he
wasn't in that headspace right then
441
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,360
to even leave a note.
442
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Did you plan...?
443
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480
Today I'm gonna die -
is that what you thought?
444
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,840
I did, yeah.
445
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440
I did the night before.
446
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,200
Yeah. I did the night before.
447
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520
I planned it all out.
448
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800
I just got to the stage where...
449
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,320
I saw the only way that I
could achieve peace was...
450
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,040
Because you're so desperate
to find peace, you know.
451
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160
How can you hide that?
452
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120
This is what... I'm amazed.
How can you hide that?
453
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200
How can you just hide that
from anyone?
454
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,120
I just... I was scared,
so I didn't tell them,
455
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960
and, yeah, there were so many
opportunities that evening
456
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
and that next morning
to tell people,
457
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,520
but as I was saying,
I had that in my head.
458
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,120
I saw that
as the only way out of it.
459
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,920
I just couldn't see past
that moment on the bridge.
460
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,800
It was...
461
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,640
I was sort of drawn towards it.
462
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880
No-one's ever spoken to me
like this.
463
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240
You're giving me an insight
that I haven't seen.
464
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,840
As long as it's all right?
465
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Yeah, of course. I just don't want
you to get upset. No, no, not at all.
466
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,000
It's good for me
to talk about it as well.
467
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Are you ever scared
that it will come back,
468
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320
or is that something that's...?
469
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Do you know what, I've been suicidal
again since that day,
470
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000
but now I say...
471
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Sorry. I say,
"This is how I'm feeling."
472
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,360
Because I know that I've
done it before and can do it again.
473
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
But you know to ask for help now?
474
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,440
I know that...
475
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,480
I can say the words, "I'm feeling
suicidal at the moment" and...
476
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320
and that's the difference.
That's what I couldn't say before.
477
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,800
Having all but given up hope
of finding Mike,
478
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Jonny checks a message in his inbox.
479
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Although his name's not Mike,
everything else finally fits.
480
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,480
For six years, Jonny has been
dreaming of the moment
481
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,000
when he might meet the man
who helped turn his life around.
482
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,000
Since launching his search,
483
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,920
his story has been followed by
319 million people around the world.
484
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,200
It has produced leads
from far and wide
485
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,960
that he's pursued
and ultimately discarded.
486
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,120
Now he's about to meet the man
he thinks could be his Mike.
487
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,400
This guy is probably
the strongest lead
488
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,720
and is potentially the man
that I'm looking for,
489
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,360
so there's a lot riding on today.
490
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,480
It's just a very surreal
sort of feeling
491
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,960
and, um...
492
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,680
I'm petrified, to be honest.
I'm petrified.
493
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,440
No. Not really.
494
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280
No, I am ready. Sorry.
495
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Not really. No.
496
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920
You can never be ready for a
moment like this, to be honest.
497
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
I'd like to give him a hug.
498
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Although I don't know
if that's too awkward.
499
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,880
I'd like to, but I don't know.
500
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,520
I'll just kind of see how it goes.
501
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,040
I mean, I'm not especially
a touchy-feely persee... Persee?!
502
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Sorry.
503
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560
When I greet him, I would
like to give him a hug,
504
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,360
but just have to see how it goes.
505
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,120
He might not want to have a hug,
which is fair enough.
506
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Might not want me jumping on him,
507
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,440
which is completely understandable.
508
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,840
It'd be nice to maybe
give him a hug.
509
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,440
Definitely a handshake,
but a hug would be nice.
510
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,720
Hiya. How you doing? Good.
511
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680
How are you? I'm all right.
512
00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:59,600
Good.
513
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920
It all makes sense.
514
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,080
Fucking hell, yeah. Sorry, didn't
mean to swear. No, that's fine.
515
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,160
How you doing? I'm fine, I'm fine.
516
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,720
It's fantastic to see you.
Fantastic to see you.
517
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Really good, really good.
I feel nervous.
518
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,160
I saw you on the TV.
I saw you speaking on the TV.
519
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,280
Don't be nervous, honestly. It was
really nice things you said.
520
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,120
And you know...
521
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,120
It's so strange to see you again,
522
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,800
but it seems like only good things
have happened for you.
523
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640
Yeah, well. Do you want to
take a seat? Absolutely.
524
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Wow. How are you doing?
I'm fine, I'm fine.
525
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Yeah? Absolutely.
Thanks so much for...
526
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,920
God. It's all coming back.
527
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Yeah? Mmm.
528
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,200
Yeah. Wow.
529
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,480
I can't imagine how it must feel,
you know, to be reliving it,
530
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080
you know. Sorry. No...
531
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,280
It's just unbelievable.
Oh, my God!
532
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,800
Do you remember me? Yeah. Now I've
seen you, it's all coming back.
533
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,440
You standing at the side of me.
534
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Cos before
it was such a hazy memory,
535
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,360
and now it's all coming back
536
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,680
and I can see you there
on the side of the bridge.
537
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680
Wow! It's amazing.
538
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,160
I completely had a blank
of what you look like.
539
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,520
It was really cold that day, mate.
I don't know if you remember.
540
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920
Do you remember
how cold it was? Yeah, I remember.
541
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,200
I saw you sitting there
on the bridge and, you know,
542
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,160
I knew straight away.
Like, it came into my vision,
543
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,600
and I knew
what was happening straight away.
544
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,480
And I didn't think I'd get to you
545
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,560
because there was
quite a distance between us.
546
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,520
And I kept walking and walking
and walking
547
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,400
and there were people
walking past you all the time.
548
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,440
And then I got up to you and...
549
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,400
I don't know if you want me
to tell you what happened.
550
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Yeah, no, no...
551
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:18,440
I sort of have a memory of me going
to, like, the middle of the bridge
552
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600
and stepping over the barrier
and standing on the edge
553
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,400
and my hands were behind.
554
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,600
I don't know if that's...
555
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,920
Like this. Like, I mean...
556
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,480
I walked up to you and I said,
"Why are you sitting on the bridge?"
557
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,840
You know? And you told me straight
away you were going to jump.
558
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,280
And I just thought,
559
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,280
"There's no way I'm gonna
let this guy jump off today.
560
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,680
"There's no way,
not if I'm standing here."
561
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,760
You know... And then you started to
tell me about yourself.
562
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Did I? What did I say?
563
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Yeah, cos I asked you.
You told me you'd run away.
564
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Did I say where I'd run away from?
565
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120
You said you'd run away
from a hospital.
566
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,160
I'd just been diagnosed
with schizophrenia a month before
567
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,200
I ran away to the bridge,
568
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,240
and...I was put into hospital and...
569
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,240
It was such a scary time.
570
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,400
I didn't know that I was ill.
I had no idea that I was ill.
571
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,160
I was hearing a voice in my head.
572
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,240
I was having delusions
and I thought I was...
573
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,080
Do you know The Truman Show? Yeah.
574
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,880
I thought I was in own version
of The Truman Show.
575
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,560
This had been going on for 10 years.
576
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,280
It got to the point where I couldn't
cope and couldn't look after myself.
577
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,760
I didn't realise I was so ill.
And, um...
578
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Basically, I had a psychosis
579
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,360
and thought I was being possessed
by the devil.
580
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,160
And I...didn't tell family
and friends.
581
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,880
I just thought that the voice
I was hearing was real.
582
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,360
So did you think,
"This is not right,"
583
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,680
or were you like, "This is fine,
because this is the way it is?"
584
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,400
You didn't know any better?
I didn't know any better.
585
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,120
I thought that everyone heard
a voice in their heads,
586
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,080
so when the psychiatrist said to me,
587
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,160
"It's all in your head.
It's not real,"
588
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920
it was such a massive shock.
589
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,480
I was like, "Yeah,
but we all hear a voice, don't we?"
590
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,200
It's just that I'd been
maybe granted a...
591
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,000
I thought I was hearing the devil,
592
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200
so I just thought
I'd been granted a bad voice.
593
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,640
But he was like,
"No, it's all in your head."
594
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,480
I couldn't take it in.
595
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,920
I felt like my life had been a lie
and I didn't know who I was.
596
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,040
It was just such a difficult time.
I was petrified.
597
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,760
But...yeah...
598
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,360
..it was you saying to me,
"You can get through it."
599
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,560
Suddenly, like, my whole
perspective changed
600
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,000
and I was like...
601
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,160
This stranger that I'd never met and
who doesn't know anything about me
602
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,280
is telling me I'll be OK
and I can get through it
603
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,040
and just stopping,
just talking to me,
604
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,240
just giving me that time of day
and saying to me,
605
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,000
"There's another way,
and it can get better."
606
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,920
Honestly, from that day...
607
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,640
It restored my faith in humanity
and I wouldn't be here
608
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,600
if you didn't stop.
609
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,760
I think that's
the most incredible thing,
610
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
which I'm trying to
get my head around.
611
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560
You know...
612
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640
It's nice to know that somehow
I've made a difference.
613
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,960
You have. You've made
an incredible difference.
614
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,600
It must have been awful
for you, mate. You know?
615
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,360
Sounds like you...
616
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,400
And now, you know,
you're, you're dealing with it.
617
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,160
You know, it's testament.
618
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,720
You know? Yeah.
619
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,960
I'm really proud of you.
620
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Ah. Thank you.
621
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:28,720
It's so strange, cos
it feels kind of like we're friends
622
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,840
and yet...it's only the second time
I've met you.
623
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Well, I have a feeling
we will be now. Definitely.
624
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,800
Found him.
625
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,560
Found him.
626
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,480
I found Mike.
627
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,600
Everyone... Well, most people
probably want to meet their heroes.
628
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,800
I have met mine.
629
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,560
I have met mine today.
630
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,080
That's amazing.
631
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,040
I just feel...
632
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,760
on top of the world.
633
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,240
The campaign has been so huge
634
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,360
and feels like the start
of something, maybe?
635
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,000
"Dear Jonny, Thank you for reminding
all of us how life-changing
636
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,480
"a random act of kindness can be."
637
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640
"I would like to take the time
to share with you
638
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,400
"just how much his story
touched me over here in Canada.
639
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,480
"The day I had decided
to take my life
640
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,800
"was the sombre day
of Sept 12th 2002,
641
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520
"in order to relieve the pain
I was going through
642
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,640
"due to the voices inside my head.
643
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,280
"Living with a mental illness
is rough at times,
644
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,880
"but you determine your life's path,
not your illness."
645
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,920
"Jonny, man, I just want to say
646
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,040
"thanks for being there when I was
going through my difficult times.
647
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,760
"I can't even describe how helpful
it's been to get to know,
648
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,720
"meet and connect with someone like
you who understands so much
649
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,400
"about what I've been going through
these past few years."
650
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,720
"Thanks for showing there's help for
people with severe mental illnesses.
651
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,520
"Good luck and God bless."
652
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,720
"Hi, Jonny. I just wanted
to drop you a quick line
653
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,400
"to thank you
for the various steps you've taken
654
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,480
"over the past few weeks to
highlight mental health issues.
655
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,400
"I'm currently going through the
early part of recovery stages
656
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,280
"from depression, where I too
was ready to take my own life.
657
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,320
"I've seen a doctor, and now they
are referring me to counselling,
658
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,440
"which I believe is
the right thing for me.
659
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,120
"Well, I think so anyhow.
660
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,120
"Watching your story unfold stopped
me from talking my own life,
661
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,560
"so a massive thank you."
662
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:04,480
It feels like that chapter
is almost closed now.
663
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Those six years ago.
Everything that I went through.
664
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,680
It's a complete contrast
to the feelings
665
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,600
that I had that day
when I first met Neil.
666
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,880
Complete contrast.
667
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,080
I was completely at rock bottom.
668
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,120
And now, I'm so happy.
669
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,800
I feel like I've gone full circle.
670
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,800
It's just amazing to be able
to say that, I think.
671
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,840
When you've gone through something
that's such a bad period
672
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,400
and you can look back and realise...
673
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,440
I realise how sort of...how far
I've come, I guess.
674
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Every day, more than
a quarter of a million people
675
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,600
pass through Waterloo.
676
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,560
Sometimes when we are
part of a crowd
677
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,400
and we see someone in trouble,
it's easier to walk on by.
678
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,720
But we actually all have a choice.
679
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,640
The truth is,
any of us could be a Mike.
680
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400
Though there are times
I still struggle,
681
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160
I know that I can
overcome any adversity in life.
682
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440
This is all thanks to one man who
showed me that life does get better.
683
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,880
Now I want to offer that same
message to others who need it.
684
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,400
That in spite of the hard times,
life really is worth living.
685
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,080
# Someway, baby, it's part of me
Apart from me
686
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,840
# You're laying waste to Halloween
687
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,600
# You fucked it, friend
It's on it's head
688
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,120
# It struck the street
689
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,280
# You're in Milwaukee
Off your feet
690
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
# And at once I knew
691
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,000
# I was not magnificent... #
692
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,120
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