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- Erie, pennsylvania,
is a nice place to live.
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A lot of fishing, a lot of boating,
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Swimming on the lake.
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- We have a number of commercial fishermen
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That go out and collect fish
and then sell them locally.
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- We have some of the best
beaches on the great lakes.
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But storms come out of nowhere.
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- We can have waves of up to 6 to 7 feet on the lake.
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During the summertime, we run the highest
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Concentration of search and rescue cases
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In the entire coast guard.
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- The united states coast guard
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Received a 911 phone call.
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A man was reporting that his
wife had fallen overboard.
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- The water is very cold, so we immediately launched
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Resources to try to find her.
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- She was on the water all the time.
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And so how could she just
fall off the back of a boat?
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- Maybe she just left the marriage,
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And he didn't want to tell his
family that she had left him.
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- But then a human leg washes
up on the shore of lake erie.
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I said, what happened to her?
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There's only one person who has the answer,
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And that's you.
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- Lake erie is the fourth largest
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Of north america's great lakes
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And the world's 10th largest
freshwater lake by area.
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Rife with multiple species of fish
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And hundreds of shipwrecks,
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This massive body of water
is a huge draw
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For both fishermen
and scuba divers.
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It's there that one couple lived out their dream
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Of starting their own fishing business.
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But tragically,
on June 11, 2017,
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That dream was shattered.
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- At approximately 1:30 pm,
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The united states coast guard here in erie
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Received a 911 phone call
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From a commercial fishing
vessel, "doris-m."
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That call was from a christopher leclair,
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And he was reporting that his wife,
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Karen, had fallen overboard.
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Chris leclair reported that he was approximately 3 miles
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Off the shores of the peninsula that
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Comes out from erie, pennsylvania.
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I have a lot of experience on boating on lake erie,
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And I know firsthand how easy
it is to fall off of a boat.
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Boating itself is dangerous.
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Due to waves, the boat's moving around.
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And when we're talking about a commercial fishing vessel,
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You're pulling fish out of the water.
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And obviously,
water's coming off that fish,
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Making all your decks slippery.
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Knowing this is early June here in erie, pennsylvania,
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The waters are anywhere
from 50 to 60 degrees.
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Looking at some hypothermia charts,
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We know within one to six hours,
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Hypothermia is gonna set in.
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The survivability after that
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Becomes very slim.
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- Water temperature definitely increased
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The urgency of this case.
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We immediately launched resources
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To go to the last known
position that karen was seen.
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- Because lake erie is located on the international border
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With canada to the north
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And four u.S. States
to the south, east, and west,
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Multiple agencies
have to collaborate
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On this search and rescue mission.
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- The coast guard and our partners launched
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31 search and rescue patterns
for this case.
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At the time karen was reported missing,
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The waves in lake erie were
about 4 to 5 feet high.
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That means that it is much
harder to see someone.
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- We met christopher leclair at his dock slip
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To find out what happened to karen
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And get information to assist our aviation
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And maritime assets,
anything that would help them
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Find where she's at.
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Christopher leclair was a commercial fisherman.
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He told us that before this incident
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That morning that he had fishing nets
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That were in the water
that he needed
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To get the fish out of them.
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- I was with sergeant huffman, and according to
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Christopher leclair, karen was out there because
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He needed her help
in lifting the nets
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And pulling in the fish.
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- Chris and karen leclair arrive to where
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His boat is slipped at about 11:45 in the morning.
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Once they were out there,
the water was pretty rough.
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And his boat has diesel engines.
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And chris says that karen was feeling ill
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Due to diesel fumes,
as well as motion sickness.
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- Chris said he was
in the captain's quarter,
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Which is towards the front,
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And he's steering the boat.
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- Karen goes to the aft portion
of the boat on the port side
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And sticks her head out in the wind
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To kind of get some relief
from those fumes
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And from that seasickness.
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Chris is in an enclosed pilot house,
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So he cannot see the rear of the boat where she's sitting.
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And diesel engines are
so loud on the boat
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That he can't hear anything.
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He would stop about
every 15 minutes to check
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To see how she was doing.
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Chris said that he was passing that buoy
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Off the shores of presque isle state park
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To set more fishing nets.
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And that was the last time
he saw karen leclair.
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He searched the entire vessel, thinking maybe
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She went somewhere else on the boat,
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But he couldn't
find her anywhere.
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He said that he marked on his gps
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Where he thought
she went overboard.
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- During that conversation with the investigators,
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Chris said that karen was an expert scuba diver
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And she was able
to tread water for a long time.
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- That day, I got a call from another family member,
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And he told me that
she was missing.
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And I said, what do you mean,
she's missing?
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She was a very good swimmer.
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We were all just anxiously waiting by our phones,
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Hoping that they would find her perhaps treading water
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And still alive.
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- At this point, karen has not been in the water that long.
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But according to chris leclair,
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They're approximately 3 to 4 miles off of shore.
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So even though she was a certified scuba diver,
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It's a pretty far distance
to be able to make it
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Back to shore in those waters.
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Also, chris told us that
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Karen, she had cancer.
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- Chris said it was ovarian cancer,
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And karen was terminally ill.
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Somebody who may not
have been 100% healthy
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Could be much less likely to survive in the waters
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For a long period of time.
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- Family and friends were
also out searching for karen.
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But you feel helpless that
you can't do anything.
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- It was really hard for me to wait
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While they were
searching for karen,
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Because lake erie's big.
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But I was hoping
they could find her.
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- While the surface area of lake erie is quite large
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At 9,900 square miles,
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It's the shallowest and the warmest
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Of the great lakes,
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With a maximum depth
of 210 feet.
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Both of these factors give hope to the search team
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That they'll be able
to find karen alive
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Before daylight fades
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And the temperature drops
even lower.
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- Someone can rapidly
drift away from the area
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Where they were last seen.
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So we shifted to a broader search over a wide area.
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We are looking at wind, waves, air temperature
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In order to find karen.
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But as night falls in our search,
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It became much more difficult to spot anything in the water.
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- With every ticking minute and hour,
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The chance of survivability for karen leclair
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Becomes less and less.
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[dramatic music]
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- When the news came out,
two individuals came forward.
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- He says the only reason he's seeing her
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Is for sexual relations.
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- When we saw the video surveillance,
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We knew this is a whole
different ballgame.
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- After an exhaustive overnight search
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Spanning over 1,300 square miles,
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Authorities have come up
empty-handed.
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There's no sign
of karen leclair.
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- The longer a search like this goes on,
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The odds of finding her
go down.
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- We're almost 24 hours since
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Karen leclair has
fallen overboard.
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- There was always
that hope that
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She was still alive,
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That maybe she just decided
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To go away for a little while.
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So many things just go through your mind.
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- The coast guard does not take the decision
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To suspend a search lightly.
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But on June 12th, we had reached a point
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Where further searching
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Would not have impacted
the probability
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Of finding karen alive.
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- At this point, it's more of a recovery,
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And we're gonna
have to begin to look
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For the body of karen leclair.
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[somber music]
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- I was sitting at home.
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I got a call from my brother.
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He just said the police thought karen was dead.
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She's a scuba diver.
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She knows how to swim.
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She grew up in the lake.
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I just didn't believe it.
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- Karen was my favorite aunt.
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She was always happy.
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She was always looking to take care of people.
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She would always volunteer
at church.
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- Our family was a blended family.
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Karen and I were
the youngest of the 14 kids.
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Karen and I loved the outdoors.
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We were always
around the water.
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We went swimming all the time.
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She was just so bubbly
and sweet, caring.
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We always talked about the men we were gonna marry,
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What our dreams were.
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She just wanted a nice guy.
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Eventually, she met chris.
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- Chris was very outgoing.
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He was a good-looking guy.
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And he was very nice,
very easy to get along with.
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Karen and chris got very
involved in scuba diving,
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And she got her certification,
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And they would go on trips
all the time and--
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And do scuba diving.
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- Chris was always looking for ways to impress her,
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And he swept karen off of her feet.
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One of the reasons, I think, that karen
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Fell in love with chris
was because he was strong.
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She wanted security.
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And he loved her, and she loved him.
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- Karen and chris dated
through the '80s,
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And in the '90s, they got married.
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They had a bait and tackle store,
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And then they decided to go
into commercial fishing
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Because it seemed like
it was more money.
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- Lake erie's fish populations
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Are the most abundant of the five great lakes,
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Which is why it's home to some
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Of the world's largest
commercial fisheries
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And the perfect place for
the leclairs to set up shop.
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Chris owned and operated the "doris-m,"
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A fishing tug built in erie in 1947.
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The vessel was made to house thousands of fish
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That would be sold commercially.
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- Karen worked at
a car dealership
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In the accountant's office.
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But on Saturday and Sunday,
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She worked with chris on the fishing boat.
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♪ ♪
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Karen enjoyed working with chris.
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♪ ♪
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- I just couldn't understand
what could have happened.
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[dramatic music]
296
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- When we're doing any investigation,
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We like to get background.
298
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And at this point,
we know the last person
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To see karen leclair was chris.
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♪ ♪
301
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- So we contacted the husband, chris leclair,
302
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And we had him come in
for an interview.
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♪ ♪
304
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- We go into the rest of the details
305
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Throughout his entire weekend.
306
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And chris informs me that him and karen went out
307
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On the 10th to clean out these nets.
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The day before,
he said that she fell over
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And karen got sick.
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So they went home
for the evening.
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And that's why they were coming back
312
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On Sunday, June 11th, was to finish that job.
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♪ ♪
314
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We kind of get into some
personal questions with chris
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About his relationship
with karen leclair.
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♪ ♪
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He informs us that they'd been together
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For over 30 years.
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We kind of get into, hey,
how is that marriage going?
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Is there any fighting going on?
321
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- Chris said that they had
a great relationship.
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They never fought,
and they got along really well.
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- But there's some
nonverbal cues
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That chris is giving off
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That chris is not being
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As open and truthful as I would like him to be.
327
00:14:00,306 --> 00:14:02,340
So we asked chris
about any infidelity
328
00:14:02,408 --> 00:14:05,843
In his marriage,
to which he exclaims that
329
00:14:05,912 --> 00:14:08,980
He does have a mistress,
tracy butler.
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♪ ♪
331
00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:13,985
He's been seeing her for about two years.
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♪ ♪
333
00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,088
- This is obviously a red flag.
334
00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:23,461
♪ ♪
335
00:14:23,529 --> 00:14:25,463
- When chris tells us that he has a mistress,
336
00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:28,099
A lot of things go
through your mind.
337
00:14:28,167 --> 00:14:29,934
Chris says the only reason he's seeing her
338
00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:33,737
Is for sexual relations because karen had cancer.
339
00:14:33,807 --> 00:14:37,008
So sexual relations in
their marriage had stopped.
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00:14:37,076 --> 00:14:38,876
♪ ♪
341
00:14:38,944 --> 00:14:41,879
Chris claimed that karen was aware of his affair.
342
00:14:41,947 --> 00:14:44,515
So maybe karen had just left the marriage
343
00:14:44,584 --> 00:14:46,651
And chris didn't want
to tell his family
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That she had left him.
345
00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:52,556
- Maybe christopher cared more for his mistress
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00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:54,392
Than he did with
continuing his marriage,
347
00:14:54,460 --> 00:14:58,296
So he decided to get rid of his wife.
348
00:14:58,364 --> 00:15:00,832
Or is there a possibility that the mistress
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00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:04,802
Wanted more or expected more
from this relationship?
350
00:15:04,871 --> 00:15:07,905
- So it's imperative that we interview tracy butler.
351
00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:09,573
♪ ♪
352
00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:12,176
Chris allows me to copy the cell phone number,
353
00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:14,812
But then I was contacted
354
00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,783
In reference to a body part
that had washed up on shore
355
00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:20,984
In fairview, pennsylvania.
356
00:15:20,986 --> 00:15:22,519
♪ ♪
357
00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:25,055
It was a leg found by someone
that was walking the beach.
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[siren wailing]
359
00:15:26,459 --> 00:15:28,626
We immediately respond
to the scene.
360
00:15:28,695 --> 00:15:29,593
[police radio chatter]
361
00:15:29,662 --> 00:15:31,562
We're thinking this is
a big breakthrough
362
00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:32,964
In the case.
363
00:15:33,032 --> 00:15:35,633
- This leg was taken from the water.
364
00:15:35,701 --> 00:15:37,134
It was then transported
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00:15:37,203 --> 00:15:38,969
To the erie county
coroner's office.
366
00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,272
Right away, our mind goes to,
367
00:15:41,341 --> 00:15:43,975
Is this a remnant
of karen leclair's body?
368
00:15:44,043 --> 00:15:47,111
♪ ♪
369
00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:52,950
[dramatic music]
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- After a human leg
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00:15:54,754 --> 00:15:57,188
Washes up on the shores of lake erie,
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00:15:57,256 --> 00:16:00,191
Investigators wait to learn
if it's indeed
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00:16:00,259 --> 00:16:03,327
The remains of missing boater
karen leclair.
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00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:04,928
♪ ♪
375
00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:06,964
- I received word from the coroner's office
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00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:09,500
That due to the amount
of decomposition that occurred
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00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:11,835
To that leg, it appeared
that it had been in the lake
378
00:16:11,905 --> 00:16:15,907
Much longer than karen had
been in the lake at that point.
379
00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:18,409
- Erie county coroner's office determined
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00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:22,747
That it was the leg
of a victim of a plane crash
381
00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:26,183
That occurred off the shore
in cleveland, ohio.
382
00:16:26,252 --> 00:16:29,387
♪ ♪
383
00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:33,190
- It's a disappointment
because it takes away
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00:16:33,259 --> 00:16:35,025
A lead that maybe
we would have had.
385
00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:37,094
♪ ♪
386
00:16:37,096 --> 00:16:40,298
During that time, we attempt
to contact chris's mistress,
387
00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:42,233
See if maybe she was involved,
388
00:16:42,301 --> 00:16:43,601
Or maybe she has
more information
389
00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:45,269
That will lead us
to karen leclair.
390
00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:46,704
♪ ♪
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00:16:46,773 --> 00:16:48,906
She agrees to come to the state police barracks
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00:16:48,974 --> 00:16:51,475
For an interview.
393
00:16:51,477 --> 00:16:54,878
- Tracy butler, christopher's mistress,
394
00:16:54,948 --> 00:16:58,916
Was a single mom of two
who lived in the city of erie.
395
00:16:58,985 --> 00:17:03,487
- She tells us that this affair has been going on
396
00:17:03,489 --> 00:17:04,722
For approximately five years,
397
00:17:04,791 --> 00:17:06,824
Several times a week.
398
00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:09,360
But chris had told us that he has been seeing her
399
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:11,362
For about two years.
400
00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:14,097
So which one is the truth?
401
00:17:14,099 --> 00:17:17,801
- Tracy says when she would
ask about his wife, karen,
402
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:20,738
He told her that
karen was down in florida.
403
00:17:20,806 --> 00:17:22,406
♪ ♪
404
00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,775
- Chris was telling her that they were separated
405
00:17:24,844 --> 00:17:25,876
And that she had cancer
406
00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:29,012
And that she was going
to die at any moment.
407
00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:32,650
♪ ♪
408
00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:34,785
Another thing the mistress had told us,
409
00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:37,922
She actually saw a newscast
about a missing woman
410
00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:40,057
On lake erie that had
fallen off of a vessel.
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00:17:40,126 --> 00:17:42,426
♪ ♪
412
00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:45,663
On Sunday, June 11, 2017,
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00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:47,831
She called chris on his cell phone.
414
00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:49,200
She asked him, hey,
do you know anything
415
00:17:49,268 --> 00:17:50,267
About the missing woman
out there?
416
00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:52,636
♪ ♪
417
00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:54,672
He claimed he did not know
anything about it.
418
00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:56,640
♪ ♪
419
00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:59,443
Tracy was actually horrified when she found out from us
420
00:17:59,512 --> 00:18:01,812
That it was karen
that was missing.
421
00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:04,382
At that point, she said she had felt that
422
00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:06,884
Chris had been lying to her
for some time.
423
00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:08,686
♪ ♪
424
00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:12,356
Tracy does not appear
to be trying to deceive us.
425
00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:14,091
She's telling us things
that she probably wouldn't
426
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,326
Want to tell other people.
427
00:18:16,328 --> 00:18:18,262
So we didn't believe
that she was involved
428
00:18:18,330 --> 00:18:19,797
In karen's disappearance.
429
00:18:19,865 --> 00:18:22,166
♪ ♪
430
00:18:22,235 --> 00:18:25,969
To hear what she's saying is a total contradiction
431
00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:27,238
Of what chris has just told us
432
00:18:27,306 --> 00:18:29,373
In the hours
before her interview.
433
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:32,309
It just adds doubt to his story.
434
00:18:32,378 --> 00:18:34,545
♪ ♪
435
00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:37,781
- So because of that, the troopers were also
436
00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:40,183
Continuing to get as much information
437
00:18:40,185 --> 00:18:44,354
About christopher and karen
leclair's life as they could.
438
00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,590
- When we interviewed karen's coworkers
439
00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,260
At the auto dealership, they described her
440
00:18:49,328 --> 00:18:52,730
As loyal and dedicated
and said she was
441
00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:55,466
Very personable with the other coworkers.
442
00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:57,568
- But they said
that karen changed
443
00:18:57,637 --> 00:18:59,871
Whenever chris was around.
444
00:18:59,939 --> 00:19:02,273
She was not the happy, bubbly person
445
00:19:02,341 --> 00:19:04,174
That she normally was.
446
00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:06,544
We found out that chris had told her employer
447
00:19:06,612 --> 00:19:08,679
That karen did, in fact,
have cancer
448
00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,114
And it was terminal.
449
00:19:11,116 --> 00:19:15,152
- But her coworkers said they approached her,
450
00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:18,689
And she told them,
I'm not sick.
451
00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,058
And there was no further
discussion about that.
452
00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:23,827
♪ ♪
453
00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:28,299
It was shocking that chris was making up these lies.
454
00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:29,667
♪ ♪
455
00:19:29,735 --> 00:19:31,235
- We don't know the exact reason why
456
00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:32,803
Chris would tell
these people that,
457
00:19:32,872 --> 00:19:34,638
Whether it was
to justify an affair
458
00:19:34,707 --> 00:19:37,207
Or if it was to justify
459
00:19:37,277 --> 00:19:39,577
A disappearance
of karen one day.
460
00:19:39,645 --> 00:19:41,579
- At this point in the investigation,
461
00:19:41,647 --> 00:19:44,815
All we have is a missing person
because we do not have a body.
462
00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:47,885
But based on the inconsistencies
463
00:19:47,954 --> 00:19:51,255
In chris's statements and the fact that
464
00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,691
Chris had a mistress,
465
00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:56,660
We had to begin to look into the possibility
466
00:19:56,662 --> 00:19:59,029
That karen falling overboard
467
00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:01,465
Was not an accident that occurred.
468
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,868
It was a deliberate act
by her husband.
469
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:08,372
♪ ♪
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00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,075
We then contacted the border patrol
471
00:20:12,145 --> 00:20:15,746
To determine the path that christopher leclair's boat
472
00:20:15,814 --> 00:20:18,349
Took on June 10th
and June 11th.
473
00:20:18,417 --> 00:20:20,985
♪ ♪
474
00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:23,354
- Because lake erie is situated
475
00:20:23,422 --> 00:20:24,956
On an international boundary,
476
00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:28,025
The u.S. Border patrol keeps track of all vessels
477
00:20:28,093 --> 00:20:31,328
Via highly accurate
radar technology.
478
00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,897
This radar gives
the precise latitude
479
00:20:33,966 --> 00:20:37,601
And longitude of any vessel's
movement on the water.
480
00:20:37,603 --> 00:20:39,236
♪ ♪
481
00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:41,239
- We were able to determine that there were some areas
482
00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:43,107
That we saw chris's boat
483
00:20:43,175 --> 00:20:45,977
Spend some time at, more than others.
484
00:20:46,045 --> 00:20:49,346
So we wanted to dive
on those locations.
485
00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:50,982
- It's important to find karen's body
486
00:20:51,050 --> 00:20:53,751
To try to determine what
actually happened on the boat,
487
00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:57,688
If it was an accident or if she was killed.
488
00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:00,490
- In a no-body case, filing
criminal homicide charges
489
00:21:00,492 --> 00:21:01,959
Is very difficult.
490
00:21:02,027 --> 00:21:04,728
You have to have a strong
circumstantial evidence case
491
00:21:04,797 --> 00:21:08,265
In order to be able to prove
that that person is deceased.
492
00:21:08,334 --> 00:21:10,067
♪ ♪
493
00:21:10,136 --> 00:21:12,970
The new york state police used side-scan sonar
494
00:21:13,038 --> 00:21:15,973
To look for anomalies
on the bottom of the lake
495
00:21:16,041 --> 00:21:18,141
In those locations.
496
00:21:18,211 --> 00:21:20,711
They searched 12 hours on the lake,
497
00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:23,947
And they dove on many anomalies.
498
00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:29,119
But unfortunately, it was
old fishing traps, old tires,
499
00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:32,055
Just anomalies that
were on the lake floor
500
00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:35,092
That weren't helpful
in our investigation.
501
00:21:35,161 --> 00:21:39,063
♪ ♪
502
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:42,165
- We're now focusing our investigative efforts
503
00:21:42,167 --> 00:21:44,067
Towards finding any video footage
504
00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:46,837
That can either confirm
or deny where actually
505
00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:50,474
Christopher reports them
as being together last.
506
00:21:50,542 --> 00:21:53,577
And that area was the east marina
507
00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,979
Down off of dobbins landing,
508
00:21:56,048 --> 00:22:00,651
Where he docked his boat Sunday, June 11.
509
00:22:00,719 --> 00:22:02,853
There were cameras that covered his slip
510
00:22:02,922 --> 00:22:04,354
Where his boat was docked.
511
00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:05,889
♪ ♪
512
00:22:05,891 --> 00:22:08,459
We then contact the erie port authority.
513
00:22:08,527 --> 00:22:10,194
We go ask them,
could they pull the footage
514
00:22:10,262 --> 00:22:12,930
On that weekend
of June 10th and June 11th?
515
00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:15,466
♪ ♪
516
00:22:15,534 --> 00:22:17,901
- After that, we review
the surveillance footage
517
00:22:17,903 --> 00:22:20,037
Of the erie port authority.
518
00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:23,374
- We want to confirm chris's account of their activities
519
00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:26,944
On the water on that weekend
of June 10th and June 11th.
520
00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:31,048
- June 10, 2017, was the day
before karen went missing.
521
00:22:31,117 --> 00:22:33,550
[tense music]
522
00:22:33,619 --> 00:22:36,219
We see chris and karen leclair arrive.
523
00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:38,055
♪ ♪
524
00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:41,358
We watched them walk down the walkway
525
00:22:41,426 --> 00:22:43,694
Alongside the marina, enter the secured gate,
526
00:22:43,763 --> 00:22:47,464
And walk down to their slip
527
00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,868
And board
the "doris-m" together,
528
00:22:50,936 --> 00:22:55,138
Exactly what chris told us
happened on June 10th.
529
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,376
- The boat leaves the marina
at around 12:30
530
00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:00,110
In the afternoon on that day.
531
00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:03,046
[dramatic music]
532
00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:06,083
♪ ♪
533
00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:08,719
And then at 4:39 pm,
534
00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:13,524
We see the "doris-m" returning into the marina.
535
00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:16,026
- It doesn't go back
to its designated slip,
536
00:23:16,095 --> 00:23:18,061
The one that's assigned
to chris leclair.
537
00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:20,731
It actually parks in a different location,
538
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,399
An unusual parking spot,
539
00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:24,468
As there's no other boats parked over there.
540
00:23:24,537 --> 00:23:26,237
Why park your boat there?
541
00:23:26,305 --> 00:23:28,138
♪ ♪
542
00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:30,774
- Then we see christopher on the pathway walking
543
00:23:30,776 --> 00:23:33,877
On June 10th,
and he's by himself.
544
00:23:33,879 --> 00:23:36,279
Keep in mind that he does not report
545
00:23:36,349 --> 00:23:38,549
Karen missing overboard
546
00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:41,785
Until the following day,
June 11th.
547
00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:45,222
And there were only two people
on that boat, you and her.
548
00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:47,390
She's not here.
549
00:23:47,392 --> 00:23:48,291
Where's your wife,
550
00:23:48,361 --> 00:23:49,627
And what happened to her?
551
00:23:52,096 --> 00:23:57,234
[dramatic music]
552
00:23:57,303 --> 00:24:00,337
♪ ♪
553
00:24:00,406 --> 00:24:03,540
- Police watch security video from June 10th,
554
00:24:03,609 --> 00:24:05,809
The day before chris leclair
555
00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:09,847
Reported his wife, karen,
had fallen overboard.
556
00:24:09,915 --> 00:24:12,449
While the couple did board their boat together
557
00:24:12,517 --> 00:24:14,184
For a day on the water,
558
00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:16,453
When it docked back at the marina,
559
00:24:16,522 --> 00:24:18,521
Chris walked away alone.
560
00:24:18,523 --> 00:24:20,090
♪ ♪
561
00:24:20,092 --> 00:24:21,892
- We continue to watch that footage
562
00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:25,495
Through the entire night
from June 10th into June 11th.
563
00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:28,799
And on June 11, 2017,
564
00:24:28,868 --> 00:24:33,070
We see chris at 12:06 pm
565
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:35,205
Pull up in that same suv,
566
00:24:35,274 --> 00:24:38,041
Park in the same location he did the day before,
567
00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:42,079
And he enters the "doris-m" fishing vessel himself.
568
00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:45,082
He pilots that vessel out of the east basin
569
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,050
And out into presque isle bay before he goes
570
00:24:47,052 --> 00:24:49,220
Out of view from the camera.
571
00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:52,356
I speculate that on June 10th, chris parked his boat
572
00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:55,259
At that different location, thinking no one would see
573
00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:58,361
Who got on and off of that boat
at that location.
574
00:24:58,363 --> 00:25:00,631
♪ ♪
575
00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:04,335
- Now, if he actually killed karen,
576
00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:05,769
That shows premeditation.
577
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:12,309
♪ ♪
578
00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:14,411
- I interviewed a commercial fisherman
579
00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:17,781
Who was out in the waters on June 12th,
580
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:20,117
The day after christopher reported
581
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,920
Karen falling overboard.
582
00:25:22,988 --> 00:25:26,123
And he ran across christopher leclair,
583
00:25:26,191 --> 00:25:28,926
Who asked him if he had gone
and checked the nets
584
00:25:28,994 --> 00:25:32,896
Near a certain area
off the lighthouse.
585
00:25:32,964 --> 00:25:35,198
The fisherman says, why did you ask me that?
586
00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:39,270
And christopher had said something to the effect of,
587
00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:40,904
Well, I had lost something.
588
00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:44,141
The guy asked him,
naturally, what did you lose?
589
00:25:44,209 --> 00:25:48,145
He goes, well, I'm sure you
heard my wife fell off my boat.
590
00:25:48,213 --> 00:25:51,148
And he found it odd that chris referred to
591
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,550
"I lost something" as his wife.
592
00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:55,252
♪ ♪
593
00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:57,454
- After reviewing the surveillance footage
594
00:25:57,522 --> 00:25:59,756
And interviewing other fishermen,
595
00:25:59,825 --> 00:26:03,360
A top priority is
to re-interview the mistress,
596
00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:08,431
Tracy butler, to get a better understanding of a timeline
597
00:26:08,433 --> 00:26:11,635
Of when she spoke to chris
and what he told her
598
00:26:11,703 --> 00:26:13,570
He was doing
during those times.
599
00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:15,405
♪ ♪
600
00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:18,909
So tracy was called back in for an interview.
601
00:26:18,978 --> 00:26:22,179
She tells us that she had plans with chris
602
00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:25,583
On June 10, 2017, at 2:00 pm.
603
00:26:25,651 --> 00:26:28,585
She tried to call him and text him several times
604
00:26:28,653 --> 00:26:31,488
And was not getting a response back from him.
605
00:26:31,557 --> 00:26:33,924
And at 4:00, around that time,
606
00:26:33,992 --> 00:26:35,192
She finally did get a message from chris.
607
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:38,061
It was actually a photograph
of him on his fishing vessel.
608
00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:40,797
And he explained to her through text message
609
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,966
That he was out there cleaning nets.
610
00:26:42,968 --> 00:26:45,368
She said around 7:30 pm that night,
611
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,905
They had dinner together
and that he spent the night
612
00:26:47,973 --> 00:26:50,641
At her house,
which she said was weird,
613
00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:52,809
Because he's never
spent the night before.
614
00:26:52,878 --> 00:26:55,679
[tense music]
615
00:26:55,747 --> 00:26:57,381
♪ ♪
616
00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:59,750
They awake the next morning.
617
00:26:59,818 --> 00:27:04,087
About 10:30, 11:00,
he says that he has to go
618
00:27:04,089 --> 00:27:05,822
To finish cleaning out
his fishing nets.
619
00:27:05,891 --> 00:27:09,259
♪ ♪
620
00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:12,563
This is in direct contradiction
621
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,399
To chris telling us that
he spent the night of the 10th
622
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:18,769
Into the morning of the 11th
at home with karen.
623
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:20,270
♪ ♪
624
00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:23,406
- I was part of this case from the very beginning
625
00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:25,275
Because it just seemed something was up.
626
00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:28,011
And tracy confirming
that chris was
627
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,048
With her on Saturday,
June 10th, all night
628
00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:33,383
Was a huge break in the case.
629
00:27:33,452 --> 00:27:35,519
♪ ♪
630
00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:39,422
- And then tracy told us that on June 9, 2017,
631
00:27:39,491 --> 00:27:42,259
She gave chris the ultimatum that he had until that weekend
632
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:47,063
To decide if he was gonna
choose her or his wife.
633
00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:50,267
- We now believe that between
the hours of 1:00 and 4:00
634
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,470
On June 10th,
karen leclair met her demise
635
00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:55,538
At the hands of christopher leclair
636
00:27:55,608 --> 00:27:57,774
In the waters of lake erie.
637
00:27:57,843 --> 00:28:00,310
- This is no longer a missing person investigation.
638
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,079
♪ ♪
639
00:28:02,147 --> 00:28:03,980
This is a homicide
investigation.
640
00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:06,116
♪ ♪
641
00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:08,986
- With the manipulation
with the coworkers
642
00:28:09,054 --> 00:28:12,055
And the lies that karen had cancer,
643
00:28:12,124 --> 00:28:14,158
The video surveillance in the marina,
644
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:19,596
And now an ultimatum around this time frame,
645
00:28:19,665 --> 00:28:23,000
We felt confident that
we had enough to do the arrest.
646
00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:26,703
[dramatic music]
647
00:28:26,772 --> 00:28:29,106
- At this point, I file
the criminal homicide charges
648
00:28:29,174 --> 00:28:32,008
And get an arrest warrant
for chris leclair,
649
00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:33,910
And I also obtain a search warrant
650
00:28:33,979 --> 00:28:36,580
For his residence
in albion, pennsylvania.
651
00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:39,349
It's important that we find chris right away
652
00:28:39,351 --> 00:28:41,451
Due to the fact that he has all this freedom
653
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,853
To go out and destroy any evidence
654
00:28:42,921 --> 00:28:44,687
While he's not in custody.
655
00:28:44,757 --> 00:28:47,424
♪ ♪
656
00:28:47,493 --> 00:28:50,060
- But we didn't know if
he was in the residence
657
00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:53,330
Or if he wasn't
in the residence.
658
00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:55,265
We always approach the situation
659
00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,467
As if the person may be armed.
660
00:28:57,536 --> 00:29:00,937
So we utilized tactical teams,
and we surrounded the house.
661
00:29:01,006 --> 00:29:03,640
♪ ♪
662
00:29:03,709 --> 00:29:06,276
We approached the house from all directions.
663
00:29:06,345 --> 00:29:08,812
- Chris liked to be in control
of the situation,
664
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,547
But not today.
665
00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:11,949
♪ ♪
666
00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:19,823
[dramatic music]
667
00:29:19,891 --> 00:29:21,658
[police radio chatter]
668
00:29:21,727 --> 00:29:24,627
- Police are surrounding the home of chris leclair,
669
00:29:24,697 --> 00:29:27,765
Where they plan to arrest him
for killing his wife
670
00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:29,566
And search for physical evidence
671
00:29:29,635 --> 00:29:31,668
That may strengthen their case.
672
00:29:31,737 --> 00:29:34,404
♪ ♪
673
00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:36,373
- When we entered,
674
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,609
Christopher leclair was not
in the residence.
675
00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:41,779
♪ ♪
676
00:29:41,847 --> 00:29:44,514
- Some of the things we're
looking for in the residence
677
00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:46,249
Is we're looking for any dna evidence,
678
00:29:46,251 --> 00:29:48,084
Any blood evidence.
679
00:29:48,153 --> 00:29:49,920
♪ ♪
680
00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:52,189
There was a built-in gun cabinet
681
00:29:52,257 --> 00:29:53,623
Into a wall of the living room
682
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,593
With several guns displayed
in the cabinet.
683
00:29:56,595 --> 00:29:58,495
♪ ♪
684
00:29:58,563 --> 00:30:00,197
We couldn't tell if there was any guns missing
685
00:30:00,265 --> 00:30:04,467
At that point, and we didn't
know how karen had died.
686
00:30:04,536 --> 00:30:06,669
We didn't know
if it was a gunshot,
687
00:30:06,739 --> 00:30:08,771
Strangulation, drowning.
688
00:30:08,773 --> 00:30:12,008
♪ ♪
689
00:30:12,077 --> 00:30:13,576
Another thing that
we're looking for
690
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,346
Is items that we can get
karen's dna off of.
691
00:30:16,415 --> 00:30:18,215
♪ ♪
692
00:30:18,283 --> 00:30:21,851
For example, we took hairbrushes, toothbrushes.
693
00:30:21,853 --> 00:30:23,220
In case a body's ever found,
694
00:30:23,288 --> 00:30:25,122
We would be able
to use that dna
695
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:27,390
To identify if that body
is karen or not.
696
00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:28,759
♪ ♪
697
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:31,828
While we're serving the search warrant at chris's residence,
698
00:30:31,897 --> 00:30:33,530
Patrol troopers are
posted out front,
699
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,099
And they actually see
chris drive by in his suv.
700
00:30:36,168 --> 00:30:40,070
♪ ♪
701
00:30:40,138 --> 00:30:43,540
[police radio chatter]
702
00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:45,942
They do a traffic stop.
703
00:30:46,011 --> 00:30:48,178
- I approached christopher leclair
704
00:30:48,246 --> 00:30:50,813
And asked him if
he would present himself
705
00:30:50,815 --> 00:30:54,751
For another interview
regarding his wife's death.
706
00:30:54,819 --> 00:30:57,554
He declined the interview
and had requested counsel.
707
00:30:57,622 --> 00:30:59,055
♪ ♪
708
00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:01,758
- So he's arrested in
front of the residence.
709
00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:05,094
♪ ♪
710
00:31:05,096 --> 00:31:06,563
- Christopher leclair was charged
711
00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:08,465
With one general count of homicide,
712
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:10,600
Because at the time that karen went missing,
713
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:13,003
We did not know
the cause of her death.
714
00:31:13,071 --> 00:31:15,838
♪ ♪
715
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,909
[phone ringing]
716
00:31:19,944 --> 00:31:21,812
- When I heard that chris was arrested,
717
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,013
I couldn't believe it.
718
00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:27,284
♪ ♪
719
00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:30,653
I don't know anybody that
could do something like that,
720
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:33,690
Unless they're evil.
721
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:35,758
♪ ♪
722
00:31:35,828 --> 00:31:39,562
- Seeing chris on the news
after he was arrested,
723
00:31:39,631 --> 00:31:42,432
In his mugshot,
he didn't look like
724
00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:46,603
The same chris that I remember.
725
00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:48,238
He just looked evil.
726
00:31:48,306 --> 00:31:51,341
I never really saw, like, any red flags
727
00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:53,443
That there were
relationship issues.
728
00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:56,446
I just couldn't believe everything that happened.
729
00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:58,481
♪ ♪
730
00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:01,518
- After the arrest and when the news came out,
731
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:03,453
Two individuals come forward
as soon as they hear
732
00:32:03,522 --> 00:32:07,424
That it's karen
is the victim of this incident.
733
00:32:07,492 --> 00:32:10,026
One of the individuals that
called had been at a party
734
00:32:10,095 --> 00:32:11,594
With chris and karen.
735
00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:13,530
She and her husband were just having
736
00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:15,398
A conversation with chris.
737
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,668
Karen was not part
of this conversation at all.
738
00:32:17,736 --> 00:32:20,237
But they were talking about
a joke about
739
00:32:20,305 --> 00:32:23,240
An ex-girlfriend being
buried in raspberry bushes.
740
00:32:23,308 --> 00:32:26,276
And she says, I realize it's kind of dark humor,
741
00:32:26,344 --> 00:32:28,611
But it's been a long-running joke.
742
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:32,148
And chris said, well, that's
not what I'm going to do.
743
00:32:32,217 --> 00:32:34,051
I'm going to put her on a boat.
744
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:36,420
I'm going to drive out into the middle of the lake
745
00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:38,221
To the deepest part of the lake.
746
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:39,756
She's going to fall off the boat,
747
00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:42,392
And no one will ever find her body.
748
00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,994
And she took him rather
seriously at that point.
749
00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:47,597
It was very uncomfortable with
that statement that he made.
750
00:32:47,666 --> 00:32:51,768
This was from 2004 that she
remembered that conversation.
751
00:32:51,836 --> 00:32:54,670
[dramatic music]
752
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:57,940
♪ ♪
753
00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:59,876
There was a second person that came forward,
754
00:32:59,945 --> 00:33:02,579
And he did not really know chris,
755
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:06,048
But he had an interaction
with him down at an auction.
756
00:33:06,050 --> 00:33:08,351
♪ ♪
757
00:33:08,353 --> 00:33:11,187
And they were talking about a news show
758
00:33:11,256 --> 00:33:13,623
That came on
about a wife dying.
759
00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:18,361
And chris made a comment
that he would take his wife
760
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:20,797
On the lake, wrap her up in fishing rope,
761
00:33:20,865 --> 00:33:23,266
And then they would never find her.
762
00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:25,568
This was in 2011, a complete stranger
763
00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:27,337
That he's saying this to.
764
00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:31,641
So for him to come forward
when he heard this happen,
765
00:33:31,643 --> 00:33:35,878
To me, spoke pretty highly
about how much
766
00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:38,981
He was disturbed
by that comment.
767
00:33:38,983 --> 00:33:41,318
♪ ♪
768
00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:42,753
But we don't know.
769
00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:44,887
How did he kill her?
770
00:33:44,889 --> 00:33:46,623
Hearing from these two individuals
771
00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:49,158
Helps us give the jury
as much as we could
772
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,794
To point to the fact that
christopher had killed karen.
773
00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:54,931
But there's always a challenge when you don't have the body.
774
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,002
♪ ♪
775
00:34:00,004 --> 00:34:02,639
- Gases that build up during decomposition
776
00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,408
Can eventually force a body to the surface.
777
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:07,977
How long that takes all depends
778
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:09,813
On the temperature
of the water.
779
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,382
It could be a day or even weeks.
780
00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:15,352
However, if karen's body is weighted down,
781
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:17,754
It might never be found at all.
782
00:34:17,822 --> 00:34:20,991
[dramatic music]
783
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:27,964
♪ ♪
784
00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:32,469
- It was July 4th weekend, so lake erie is very busy.
785
00:34:32,537 --> 00:34:35,772
I myself was out enjoying
the waters on my own boat
786
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,274
That weekend
when I received a call
787
00:34:38,343 --> 00:34:39,442
From chautauqua county sheriff's office.
788
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:42,812
They received a 911 call
from a family out fishing.
789
00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:46,182
- The family saw something floating.
790
00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,551
They initially thought
it was a blow-up doll
791
00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:50,687
Until they got closer,
and then they realized
792
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:52,555
It was the remains
of a human being
793
00:34:52,557 --> 00:34:54,524
4 miles off of dunkirk, new york,
794
00:34:54,593 --> 00:34:57,193
Which is a 45-minute drive.
795
00:34:57,262 --> 00:34:59,562
Not knowing that there were any other bodies in the waters
796
00:34:59,631 --> 00:35:01,498
That we were familiar with,
797
00:35:01,566 --> 00:35:03,800
I had a fairly good idea
it was karen.
798
00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:07,604
♪ ♪
799
00:35:07,672 --> 00:35:09,438
I drove there.
800
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,774
The sheriffs brought the body back
801
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:14,010
From the waters of lake erie.
802
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,380
The body was bloated because of the decomposition.
803
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:21,584
What I observed was
a two-tone blue rope
804
00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:24,921
Tied around the ankles of the body.
805
00:35:24,989 --> 00:35:29,559
- It's not a typical rope you
would see on a fishing vessel.
806
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:31,494
- And then there was what I would refer to
807
00:35:31,496 --> 00:35:34,030
As a typical nautical
type of white rope
808
00:35:34,099 --> 00:35:37,300
Tied around its upper body,
just underneath the armpits,
809
00:35:37,368 --> 00:35:39,769
And that had an anchor attached to it.
810
00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:42,338
♪ ♪
811
00:35:42,407 --> 00:35:43,906
- This body was a female.
812
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:47,677
If this is karen, it's going to answer
813
00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:51,013
So many questions that we've had for the last 25 days.
814
00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:52,182
- We needed the body to know
815
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:54,151
Exactly what
the cause of death was
816
00:35:54,219 --> 00:35:55,751
And to point to the fact
817
00:35:55,821 --> 00:35:57,620
That chris was the cause of her death,
818
00:35:57,622 --> 00:35:59,389
Because we want
to give the jury
819
00:35:59,457 --> 00:36:01,791
An idea of what happened.
820
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:03,960
- The body is transferred to the erie county
821
00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:05,828
Medical examiner's office.
822
00:36:05,897 --> 00:36:07,597
♪ ♪
823
00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:11,133
Our major case team was able to
secure karen's dental records.
824
00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:13,603
♪ ♪
825
00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:15,504
Based off those dental records,
826
00:36:15,506 --> 00:36:17,574
The medical examiner was
able to determine that
827
00:36:17,642 --> 00:36:19,309
This body is karen leclair.
828
00:36:19,377 --> 00:36:22,245
♪ ♪
829
00:36:22,314 --> 00:36:25,915
But the biggest shock
during the autopsy
830
00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:28,785
Was karen's cause
and manner of death.
831
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,955
♪ ♪
832
00:36:35,993 --> 00:36:41,164
[dramatic music]
833
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,867
♪ ♪
834
00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:46,536
- On July 4, 2017,
835
00:36:46,604 --> 00:36:50,006
Three weeks after karen leclair went missing,
836
00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:52,141
Her body is pulled from lake erie,
837
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:55,712
Bound by ropes and weighed down with an anchor.
838
00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:58,047
♪ ♪
839
00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,350
But the autopsy reveals
new evidence
840
00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:02,552
That authorities hope
will ensure
841
00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:05,355
Chris leclair's
murder conviction.
842
00:37:05,423 --> 00:37:07,023
- It was not a drowning.
843
00:37:07,092 --> 00:37:09,359
She died as a result of
a gunshot wound to the head.
844
00:37:09,427 --> 00:37:12,295
[dramatic music]
845
00:37:12,363 --> 00:37:13,996
♪ ♪
846
00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,299
My mind automatically goes back to all those guns
847
00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:18,335
That we saw in chris
and karen's house
848
00:37:18,337 --> 00:37:19,902
That were displayed
in the living room.
849
00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:21,437
♪ ♪
850
00:37:21,506 --> 00:37:23,506
The medical examiner
was able to retrieve
851
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:26,609
Some fragments of the bullet
from karen's head.
852
00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:29,579
But unfortunately, there was not enough
853
00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:32,248
Of the bullet fragments
to be able to match them
854
00:37:32,317 --> 00:37:34,116
To any particular firearm.
855
00:37:34,186 --> 00:37:36,886
[soft music]
856
00:37:36,955 --> 00:37:38,788
♪ ♪
857
00:37:38,857 --> 00:37:42,625
- When I learned that karen
had been shot, I was like, why?
858
00:37:42,694 --> 00:37:45,295
Why didn't you just divorce her
instead of killing her?
859
00:37:45,363 --> 00:37:47,463
♪ ♪
860
00:37:47,532 --> 00:37:49,399
I just can't believe how horrible he was.
861
00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:53,403
But at least finding her
was a relief.
862
00:37:53,471 --> 00:37:58,908
♪ ♪
863
00:37:58,977 --> 00:38:03,946
- On July 5th, a search warrant
is prepared for the boat,
864
00:38:04,015 --> 00:38:06,182
"doris-m."
865
00:38:06,251 --> 00:38:08,118
Now that her body was found,
866
00:38:08,186 --> 00:38:10,186
We need physical evidence
867
00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:14,090
To tie christopher leclair to killing karen leclair.
868
00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:17,493
We were looking for
the ropes and the anchors
869
00:38:17,562 --> 00:38:20,363
Consistent with what
we found on karen's body.
870
00:38:20,431 --> 00:38:22,132
♪ ♪
871
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,966
- We had already searched the entire vessel
872
00:38:24,035 --> 00:38:25,568
After the arrest for the sole purpose
873
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:27,103
Of looking for any crime scene,
874
00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:29,672
And we weren't able to find any blood evidence.
875
00:38:29,674 --> 00:38:31,107
♪ ♪
876
00:38:31,176 --> 00:38:32,942
But then we found something that was
877
00:38:33,011 --> 00:38:35,177
A huge break in the case.
878
00:38:35,247 --> 00:38:36,713
- The two-tone blue rope,
879
00:38:36,781 --> 00:38:39,148
Which was located
around her ankles,
880
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:43,552
Matched a hammock that was located on the boat.
881
00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:46,522
A section had been cut out of that hammock.
882
00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:48,390
♪ ♪
883
00:38:48,392 --> 00:38:51,728
- Also, there's a foot locker, and it has several anchors.
884
00:38:51,796 --> 00:38:54,831
It has a small one,
a medium one, a large one.
885
00:38:54,899 --> 00:38:57,066
And the one that was on karen's body
886
00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:58,468
Is a very large one.
887
00:38:58,536 --> 00:39:00,236
So if you looked at them
in succession,
888
00:39:00,305 --> 00:39:02,472
It would look like there was
four of them originally,
889
00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:05,307
And now one is missing.
890
00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:10,647
♪ ♪
891
00:39:10,715 --> 00:39:15,552
- In preparing for trial,
we had really good evidence
892
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:18,388
To point to not only the fact that
893
00:39:18,456 --> 00:39:20,256
Christopher had killed karen,
894
00:39:20,325 --> 00:39:22,992
But the motive, the preparation,
895
00:39:23,061 --> 00:39:25,227
The specific intent
to kill her.
896
00:39:25,297 --> 00:39:28,030
[dramatic music]
897
00:39:28,099 --> 00:39:35,004
♪ ♪
898
00:39:38,743 --> 00:39:41,143
The defense claimed it was suicide,
899
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:45,115
That karen killed herself because of the affair,
900
00:39:45,183 --> 00:39:47,183
Because chris was leaving her.
901
00:39:47,252 --> 00:39:51,688
♪ ♪
902
00:39:51,756 --> 00:39:54,290
- Chris claimed he heard a loud bang.
903
00:39:54,359 --> 00:39:55,758
[gunshot]
904
00:39:55,826 --> 00:39:56,993
When he stepped out of the pilot house,
905
00:39:57,061 --> 00:39:59,462
He saw her laying
on the deck of the boat
906
00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:02,665
With the revolver
laying by her side.
907
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:05,267
- The defense was, he didn't want anyone
908
00:40:05,337 --> 00:40:06,903
To think poorly of her.
909
00:40:06,971 --> 00:40:10,406
So that's why he tied
an anchor to her
910
00:40:10,474 --> 00:40:12,007
And put her into the lake.
911
00:40:12,077 --> 00:40:13,910
♪ ♪
912
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:16,012
It was just so ridiculous.
913
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,716
♪ ♪
914
00:40:19,784 --> 00:40:22,618
- If I was to describe what occurred,
915
00:40:22,687 --> 00:40:24,821
I would have to say that on June 9th,
916
00:40:24,889 --> 00:40:27,990
Christopher's mistress, tracy,
917
00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:31,127
Had provided christopher
an ultimatum.
918
00:40:31,195 --> 00:40:32,829
So as a result of that,
919
00:40:32,897 --> 00:40:35,031
On the afternoon of June 10th,
920
00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:39,736
Christopher leclair took karen out into the lake.
921
00:40:39,804 --> 00:40:41,938
He shot her one time in the head.
922
00:40:42,006 --> 00:40:45,875
He utilized what he had available on the boat
923
00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:49,178
To tie her up and anchor her down,
924
00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:50,914
Threw her overboard,
925
00:40:50,982 --> 00:40:53,416
And he decided it was in his best interest
926
00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:56,252
To call in a 911 call
on the day after
927
00:40:56,321 --> 00:40:59,055
He actually killed her,
hoping to throw off
928
00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:00,823
Law enforcement by giving him another
929
00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:04,260
24 hours to cover his tracks.
930
00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:06,128
♪ ♪
931
00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:08,965
- The jury took
less than two hours
932
00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:11,200
To come back
with their verdict.
933
00:41:11,202 --> 00:41:16,105
- Chris was ultimately found guilty of first-degree murder
934
00:41:16,174 --> 00:41:17,940
And sentenced to life in prison
935
00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:19,709
Without the possibility
of parole.
936
00:41:19,777 --> 00:41:21,978
♪ ♪
937
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:24,881
- There is a huge sigh of relief in the room.
938
00:41:24,949 --> 00:41:26,782
And I think at that point,
939
00:41:26,851 --> 00:41:29,952
We all just turned around
and hugged each other.
940
00:41:29,954 --> 00:41:32,722
- Chris will never leave that jail cell.
941
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:38,194
And every day,
he has to face what he did.
942
00:41:38,262 --> 00:41:39,596
[somber music]
943
00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:41,064
- After shooting his wife, karen,
944
00:41:41,132 --> 00:41:43,866
And throwing her body
into lake erie,
945
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:46,035
Chris leclair seemed to think
946
00:41:46,104 --> 00:41:49,038
He'd gotten rid of her
for good.
947
00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:50,273
♪ ♪
948
00:41:50,275 --> 00:41:55,377
But savvy investigators saw what chris didn't--
949
00:41:55,379 --> 00:41:57,780
Surveillance cameras at the marina
950
00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:00,116
That caught him in a lie.
951
00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:03,252
Now chris leclair will spend the rest of his life
952
00:42:03,321 --> 00:42:05,988
Behind bars and far from the waters
953
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:09,191
Where he once enjoyed his days as a free man.
954
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:12,528
♪ ♪
955
00:42:12,597 --> 00:42:16,065
- I want people to know that
karen just wanted to be loved
956
00:42:16,134 --> 00:42:18,567
And be in a loving marriage.
957
00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:21,203
She would never hurt anybody.
958
00:42:21,272 --> 00:42:23,205
- Karen was very caring.
959
00:42:23,207 --> 00:42:25,274
She did nothing but adored
and looked out for
960
00:42:25,276 --> 00:42:27,409
The best interest
of everybody she knew.
961
00:42:27,479 --> 00:42:29,445
♪ ♪
962
00:42:29,513 --> 00:42:31,881
- She was such a good person,
963
00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:34,917
Bubbly and always friendly.
964
00:42:34,986 --> 00:42:37,419
Karen and I did a lot
of things together.
965
00:42:37,489 --> 00:42:39,689
I really miss that.
966
00:42:39,757 --> 00:42:45,929
♪ ♪
74566
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