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WILLIAM SHATNER:
A great flood
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that wiped out
almost all of humanity.
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that wiped out
almost all of humanity.
Fire and brimstone
that destroyed
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Fire and brimstone
that destroyed
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two ancient cities.
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And deadly plagues
sent by a punishing God.
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Some of the events recorded
in the Bible are so devastating
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and so awe-inspiring
that for the faithful,
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they can only be
described as acts of God.
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But are these tales of
biblical disasters and miracles
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But are these tales of
biblical disasters and miracles
meant to be taken literally?
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meant to be taken literally?
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Or are they simply
dramatic stories
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that were intended
to teach moral lessons?
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Is it possible
that these acts of God
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really happened?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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In eastern Turkey,
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some 200 miles southeast
of the Black Sea,
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there is a dormant volcano
that is known as Mount Ararat.
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At a height
of nearly 17,000 feet,
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Mount Ararat is
the highest point in Turkey.
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For centuries, this peak
has been considered sacred
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For centuries, this peak
has been considered sacred
because according to the Bible,
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because according to the Bible,
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after God sent the Great Flood
to cleanse the Earth,
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Mount Ararat is the location
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where Noah's ark
finally came to rest.
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ROBERT CARGILL:
The story of the Great Flood
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and Noah's ark is one
of the most famous
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stories in the Bible.
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stories in the Bible.
The story goes that God is
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The story goes that God is
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so disappointed
at the sinfulness
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so disappointed
at the sinfulness
of all of humankind,
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of all of humankind,
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that he's going
to flood the Earth.
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He's basically going
to destroy everything.
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And he finds
one righteous human...
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And he finds
one righteous human...
Noah, and what God
wants Noah to do
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Noah, and what God
wants Noah to do
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is build this massive
450-foot-long ark
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with three levels on it,
and fill it with
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all of the animals
of the Earth and his family,
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and those will be the only
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and those will be the only
survivors of the flood.
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survivors of the flood.
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SHATNER:
As the story goes, Noah loaded
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his family and
two of every kind of animal
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onto the ark.
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And then, God made it rain
for 40 days and 40 nights,
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flooding the Earth so that even
the highest mountains
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were covered with water.
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After the waters subsided,
Noah, his sons, and their wives
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left the ark and proceeded
to repopulate the Earth.
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AMIR HUSSAIN:
The Noah's Flood story
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is this really powerful story
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because here's this
transcendent God who loves us,
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who's created human beings,
but also has a way
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who's created human beings,
but also has a way
for us to behave in the world.
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for us to behave in the world.
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And when we don't behave
in the right way,
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this God will punish us.
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That's the power of God.
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Sometimes doing extraordinarily
horrific kinds of things.
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Sometimes doing
wonderful things.
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SHATNER:
Historians have long debated
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whether the story of Noah,
the ark, and the Great Flood
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is only a myth, or if
it was based on real events.
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There are some scholars
who believe it's possible
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that a massive deluge did,
in fact, take place.
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And as evidence,
they point to the fact
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And as evidence,
they point to the fact
that the Bible isn't the only
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that the Bible isn't the only
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ancient text that contains
an account of a great flood.
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ancient text that contains
an account of a great flood.
The flood story in the Bible
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The flood story in the Bible
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The flood story in the Bible
isn't the oldest flood story.
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isn't the oldest flood story.
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The oldest flood story
that we have
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in the western tradition
is in the Gilgamesh story,
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in which there's this old man,
Utnapishtim, who's survived
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a flood where it's rained
for 40 days and 40 nights.
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And this happens also
in the story of Noah.
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So for many of us looking at
these stories across cultures,
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there's this idea that,
yeah, clearly this happened
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there's this idea that,
yeah, clearly this happened
at some point in human history,
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at some point in human history,
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at some point in human history,
this flood that people remember,
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this flood that people remember,
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and they write about
in different ways.
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SHATNER:
In addition to historical
accounts, might there also be
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geological evidence to suggest
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that the Great Flood
actually happened?
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In 1997, geologists
William Ryan and Walter Pittman
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published a study
which concluded
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that the biblical story
may have been describing
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a massive overflowing
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of the Black Sea that took
place in the 6th century BC.
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DAVID MONTGOMERY:
The idea that Noah's Flood
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was triggered when
the Black Sea flooded
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was triggered when
the Black Sea flooded
is rooted in the basic
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is rooted in the basic
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geological observation that at
the end of the last ice age,
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when ice melted off the poles,
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when ice melted off the poles,
it raised sea level.
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it raised sea level.
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it raised sea level.
And what happened
when sea level rose?
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And what happened
when sea level rose?
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The Mediterranean
overtopped the Bosporus
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and spilled into the Black Sea.
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That event raised the level
of the water in what's now
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the Black Sea by about 150 feet
within weeks to months.
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It would have been catastrophic
to the people at that time.
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It would have literally
flooded the world known to them.
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Perhaps it actually seeded
the story of Noah's Flood.
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SHATNER:
Was the biblical flood
based on the actual deluge
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of the Black Sea?
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of the Black Sea?
It's an intriguing notion.
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It's an intriguing notion.
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But if the flood really
took place, then is it possible
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that we might be able
to find Noah's ark?
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Well, some researchers argue
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that the ark may have
actually been discovered
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in a photograph
taken near Mount Ararat
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by the Turkish military in 1959.
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It revealed a boat-shaped
formation embedded
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in the surface of the mountain.
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There are those who believe
that this rocky structure
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was once Noah's ark
and that the wood
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hardened and turned
to stone over time,
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a process that is
known as petrification.
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ANDREW JONES:
It's a streamlined, boat-shaped
object that's sitting there.
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And there's nothing else
in the region that matches that.
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So this is a very
distinct object.
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According to the Bible,
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the ark landed
in the mountains of Ararat.
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the ark landed
in the mountains of Ararat.
And in Genesis chapter 6,
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And in Genesis chapter 6,
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And in Genesis chapter 6,
the ark was 300 cubits long.
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the ark was 300 cubits long.
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Now, if you do the conversion,
300 cubits equals 515 feet
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and that is exactly the length
of this boat formation.
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SHATNER:
Does the remarkable similarity
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between this rocky structure
and what's written in the Bible
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suggest that it is
the remains of Noah's ark?
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Since 2019,
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a group of archaeologists
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leading the Noah's Ark
Scientific Project
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have used new technology
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to learn more about
this mysterious formation.
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JONES:
We hired an American ground
penetrating radar team to create
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3D images of what is
below the ground.
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About 20 feet down,
they found what looked to be
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three different layers.
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three different layers.
In the Bible,
the ark had three decks.
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In the Bible,
the ark had three decks.
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And according to the scans,
you can see the three decks
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that the Bible says
this giant boat had.
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We are hoping
will happen next year,
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is the Turkish government
would then proceed on...
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with a small-scale
excavation of the site
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to show what we're looking at
below the surface.
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This would be a very exciting,
worldwide headline discovery
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if this is proven
to be Noah's ark.
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If you could find
evidence for this story,
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that would actually
prove the biblical account
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and maybe get people
more interested
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in what is written
in these holy books.
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SHATNER:
For the faithful, the search
for definitive evidence
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of either Noah's ark
or the Great Flood
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is not only about archaeology.
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It's also a quest to understand
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how the power of God
works in our world.
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An act of God
is precisely something
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that we cannot explain
in rational, scientific terms.
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HUSSEIN:
The Bible tells us that
Noah's a righteous man,
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it tells us God orders Noah
to build the ark,
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but doesn't tell anyone else.
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It's this miraculous act
of God that, by definition,
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goes beyond
the flooding of the Earth
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where God allows
God's chosen people to live.
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And so there are these
astonishing kinds of things
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where God intervenes
in human history.
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where God intervenes
in human history.
So it's that balance
of the divine favor
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So it's that balance
of the divine favor
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with the divine wrath.
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If the story of the Great Flood
was ever proven to be true,
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it would be
a validation of faith
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for billions of people,
all over the world.
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But what about some of
the other acts of God
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that are recorded in the Bible?
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Is there any evidence
to support those stories, too?
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Well, a group of
archaeologists claim there is,
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and point to the ruins
of an ancient city
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that, according to scripture,
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that, according to scripture,
God destroyed
with fire and brimstone.
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God destroyed
with fire and brimstone.
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SHATNER:
In the lower
Jordan River Valley,
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eight miles north
of the Dead Sea,
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a distinct ridge rises
from the landscape.
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But this is no ordinary ridge...
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...because buried under
layers of dirt and rock
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are the ruins of an ancient city
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that dates back
almost 4,000 years.
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Modern archaeologists
have named the site
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Modern archaeologists
have named the site
Tall el-Hammam.
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Tall el-Hammam.
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When you look at Tall el-Hammam
from satellite imagery,
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it's long and it's narrow.
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It's about a mile
from end to end.
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We believe that as many as
50,000 people occupied the city.
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According to experts,
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Tall el-Hammam
is shrouded in mystery.
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We don't know what it was named
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We don't know what it was named
in ancient times
or who lived there.
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in ancient times
or who lived there.
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in ancient times
or who lived there.
But in recent years,
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But in recent years,
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some archaeologists have
theorized that Tall el-Hammam
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is actually the ruins
of the biblical city of Sodom.
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HUSSAIN:
In Genesis, you have these
cities, Sodom and Gomorrah,
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and there's wickedness,
there's iniquity in the city.
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But then God decides, no.
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This city is doing
horrible kinds of things,
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This city is doing
horrible kinds of things,
so I'm literally
gonna rain fire,
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so I'm literally
gonna rain fire,
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so I'm literally
gonna rain fire,
sulfur down.
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sulfur down.
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I'm gonna destroy this city.
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COLLINS:
God said enough is enough.
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Fire and burning stone came
forth out of the heavens
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from Yahweh
and consumed the city.
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In fact, the Bible
says that every person,
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crop, plant, tree, twig,
anything that was living
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was destroyed.
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HUSSAIN:
The Sodom and Gomorrah
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story's fascinating
in that it's meant to be
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a metaphor, an understanding of,
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oh, when human beings
don't do what they should do,
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here's what God does
to destroy us.
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It's God's power
being manifested.
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It's God's power
being manifested.
It's an act of God.
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It's an act of God.
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SHATNER:
The destruction of
Sodom and Gomorrah
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has long been associated
with the Wrath of God.
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Until recently,
many scholars thought
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Until recently,
many scholars thought
that the story was only a myth.
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that the story was only a myth.
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So why do some experts
now believe that Tall el-Hammam
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could be the remains
of the city of Sodom?
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COLLINS:
There is more
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geographical data
in the biblical text
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geographical data
in the biblical text
for the location of Sodom
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for the location of Sodom
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than there is for any
other biblical site.
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The Bible was very, very clear
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that it was north
and east of the Dead Sea,
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that it was north
and east of the Dead Sea,
and it was very clear
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and it was very clear
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that it was east of Jerusalem.
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And Tall el-Hammam matches
the geographics of the text,
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And Tall el-Hammam matches
the geographics of the text,
it matches the time frame
of the text,
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it matches the time frame
of the text,
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it matches all
the possible descriptions
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as the text describes it.
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SHATNER:
The idea that Tall el-Hammam
matches the location of Sodom
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in the Bible is intriguing.
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And researchers also claim
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And researchers also claim
that there is
physical evidence on site
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that there is
physical evidence on site
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that there is
physical evidence on site
that confirms
the biblical description
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that confirms
the biblical description
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that confirms
the biblical description
of Sodom's destruction.
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of Sodom's destruction.
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The actual destruction
event is recorded
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in just two verses in Genesis
chapter 19, verses 24 and 25...
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...where it talks about
the fact that rock and fire
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came down from the heavens and
destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
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came down from the heavens and
destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
One theory
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One theory
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is that an incoming meteor,
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or meteor fragment,
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exploded over the north end
of the Dead Sea...
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...and destroyed Tall el-Hammam.
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There are numerous proxies that
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give strong indication
that an airburst
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or impact event have occurred.
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The first is the evidence
of thermal damage
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that's represented through
melted building materials
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and partially melted
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and partially melted
pottery fragments.
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pottery fragments.
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The second is the appearance
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The second is the appearance
and occurrence of
microspherules--
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and occurrence of
microspherules--
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and occurrence of
microspherules--
very, very tiny,
spherical-shaped,
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very, very tiny,
spherical-shaped,
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melted pieces of mineral,
grains, and sands.
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And the third is
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And the third is
a high concentration
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a high concentration
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a high concentration
of rare earth elements.
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of rare earth elements.
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Rare earth elements
are very common in asteroids,
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Rare earth elements
are very common in asteroids,
not so common on the Earth.
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not so common on the Earth.
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COLLINS: What's interesting
is that the middle layer
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of Tall el-Hammam
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has a really high
salt concentration.
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It's so salty that, a lot
of times, we excavate pottery
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that's just coated
with thick salt crystals.
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That's pretty unusual.
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That's pretty unusual.
Why is that layer so salty?
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Why is that layer so salty?
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Well, it's the same salt
that's found in the Dead Sea.
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Probably because
this airburst event
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Probably because
this airburst event
pushed a massive
amount of dirt, water,
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pushed a massive
amount of dirt, water,
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and salt over the landscape.
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SHATNER:
A meteor explosion in the sky?
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If Tall el-Hammam
really was Sodom,
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could such an explosion
be the reason why the city
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is now buried in dirt that has
a high concentration of salt?
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Some experts believe
the answer is "yes,"
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and they point
to the biblical story
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for further evidence
of the connection
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between the destruction
of Sodom and salt.
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CARGILL:
The story of Sodom
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essentially picks up
in Genesis 19,
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where you have these
two angels that look like men
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who travel down to visit Lot,
who's living down in Sodom.
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And Lot shows them
tremendous hospitality,
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and you are supposed
to be kind to immigrants.
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You're supposed to be kind
to foreigners, as Lot has done.
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God has decided
to destroy the city
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because of its wickedness.
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So the angels
grab Lot and his family,
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and as they're leaving Sodom,
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the angels give them
the command,
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"Don't even look back."
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And then you have
this fascinating detail,
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And then you have
this fascinating detail,
where it says that Lot's wife
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where it says that Lot's wife
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where it says that Lot's wife
turned and looked back,
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turned and looked back,
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and she turned
into a pillar of salt.
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SHATNER:
What could be the significance
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of Lot's wife turning
into a pillar of salt?
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Does this detail from the story
support the theory that a meteor
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explosion in the sky
buried Sodom in dirt and salt?
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Perhaps.
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But is a meteor explosion
a natural event
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But is a meteor explosion
a natural event
or is it an act of God?
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or is it an act of God?
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There's been a lot of question
about fire and brimstone
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coming down from the heavens.
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Right? This is one of
these unexplained mysteries.
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And there have
been a lot of theories
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and this probably
has something to do
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with wanting evidence
that proves faith.
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A lot of people believe
in these stories,
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and archaeology
can confirm them.
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I think from a point
of view of sciences,
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we look at the biblical text
and we look at the statement of
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this was fire and burning stone
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this was fire and burning stone
from God out of the heavens.
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from God out of the heavens.
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from God out of the heavens.
If such an event
actually occurred,
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If such an event
actually occurred,
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would it have left
some evidences around?
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Well, of course, yes.
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That's all confirmed
by the science.
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Now, science can't tell me
one way or the other
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Now, science can't tell me
one way or the other
whether it's an act of God.
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whether it's an act of God.
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But the event is confirmed.
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For the faithful,
the story of Sodom and Gomorrah
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is a powerful demonstration
of the wrath of God.
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And there's a group
of archaeologists
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who claim to have found evidence
to suggest that another story
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of divine destruction
really happened.
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of divine destruction
really happened.
One that involves a stairway
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One that involves a stairway
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built to reach the heavens.
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SHATNER:
In central Iraq,
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60 miles south of Baghdad,
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lie the ruins of
the ancient city of Babylon,
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which was once the capital
of the Babylonian Empire.
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At its height in 600 BC,
Babylon was estimated
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to have been the largest
city in the world,
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with a population of more
than 200,000 inhabitants.
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Perhaps the most intriguing
ruin that remains in Babylon
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is the foundation of an ancient,
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crumbled brick tower
that was known as
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the Etemenanki Ziggurat.
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And there those who believe
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that the giant ziggurat
may have actually been
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the Tower of Babel.
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IRVING FINKEL:
The real Tower of Babel,
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from which the account
in the Bible derives,
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was built by
King Nebuchadnezzar II
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at the beginning
of the 6th century BC.
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at the beginning
of the 6th century BC.
If you go to Babylon today,
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If you go to Babylon today,
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you can easily see on the ground
where the ziggurat was,
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you can easily see on the ground
where the ziggurat was,
because it is
a rectangular ditch
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because it is
a rectangular ditch
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with a kind of black square
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full of mud and oily water
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which delineates
the entire profile
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of this great tower of which
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nothing else is left.
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The tower was built
and made of mud brick.
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The building was seven stories
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The building was seven stories
with a little temple at the top.
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with a little temple at the top.
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And there was a brick
staircase without banisters
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so that king Nebuchadnezzar II
could mount the staircase
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and go up and up
to the very top.
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So, it was definitely
the national monument
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of the greatest amount of pride.
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SHATNER:
Historians have estimated
that the ziggurat
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SHATNER:
Historians have estimated
that the ziggurat
stood nearly 300 feet high
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stood nearly 300 feet high
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or roughly as tall
as the Statue of Liberty.
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But is it possible that
this Babylonian structure was,
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But is it possible that
this Babylonian structure was,
in fact,
the real tower of Babel?
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in fact,
the real tower of Babel?
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Perhaps the answer
can be found by examining
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the story that is
recorded in the Bible.
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HUSSAIN:
In Genesis chapter 11,
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you have the story
of the Tower of Babel.
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Human beings are united,
they speak the same language,
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they build this tower...
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...to go up into the heavens.
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But then you have God saying,
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"Wait a minute,
what are these people doing?
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They're going to build this
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and they're going to
come up to where I am."
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And so, God basically
confounds these people
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by having them speak
different languages,
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so they're not able
to understand each other.
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CARGILL:
God says, "Let's scramble
their languages,
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"and then they won't be
able to communicate
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with one another."
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This is one of the most
famous stories of the Bible.
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I think that the Tower of Babel
is based on a ziggurat.
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If you're an ancient Hebrew,
an Israelite,
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and you walk up to one of these
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large ziggurats, you're
gonna be overwhelmed. Right?
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You've never seen
anything like this.
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MARK ALTAWEEL:
It's very possible that
the ziggurat of Babylon
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may be associated
with the Tower of Babel.
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There's a lot of parallels.
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There's a lot of parallels.
One is the location.
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One is the location.
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Babel is another name
for Babylon.
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Babel is another name
for Babylon.
That's more of a Semitic name.
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That's more of a Semitic name.
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So the location's certainly
correct and it certainly was
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a very tall tower, as suggested
by biblical sources.
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SHATNER:
Some archaeologists claim
that the most intriguing
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connection between this
structure and the Tower of Babel
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can be found
in the remaining bricks
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from the foundation of
the ziggurat.
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FINKEL:
Some of the bricks that we have
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have on the upper
or lower surface
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have on the upper
or lower surface
a thick black deposit.
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a thick black deposit.
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And this is
the remains of bitumen,
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which, when the original
building was put together,
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functioned as cement.
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And in the account in Genesis,
it is pointed out
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that the Tower of Babel
was built of mud brick
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with bitumen in between.
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So this is a very convincing
piece of evidence
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that the one building
is predicated on the other.
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SHATNER:
But if this ziggurat
was the Tower of Babel,
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then how was it destroyed?
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then how was it destroyed?
According to
an ancient Hebrew text
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According to
an ancient Hebrew text
484
00:21:32,884 --> 00:21:36,793
known as The Book of Jubilees,
God was so angry with humans
485
00:21:36,825 --> 00:21:40,433
for building the Tower of Babel
that he summoned a mighty wind
486
00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,705
to knock over the tower.
487
00:21:42,804 --> 00:21:47,180
Is it possible
it was brought down
488
00:21:47,346 --> 00:21:49,284
by the power of God?
489
00:21:49,417 --> 00:21:50,620
PHILLIPS:
Some experts believe
490
00:21:50,753 --> 00:21:53,693
that the story
of the Tower of Babel
491
00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:58,770
and its destruction by God
is based on an historical event,
492
00:21:58,903 --> 00:22:02,544
an earthquake in ancient times.
493
00:22:03,646 --> 00:22:07,387
In fact, quite a few ancient
towers in the city of Babylon,
494
00:22:07,453 --> 00:22:11,094
in what's now Iraq,
were destroyed by earthquakes.
495
00:22:12,697 --> 00:22:17,273
Archaeologists know that
that area was and still is
496
00:22:17,373 --> 00:22:22,316
prone to earthquakes,
because in the year 2017,
497
00:22:22,416 --> 00:22:25,890
there was the largest
magnitude earthquake
498
00:22:25,890 --> 00:22:25,924
there was the largest
magnitude earthquake
in the world in that year
499
00:22:25,924 --> 00:22:28,395
in the world in that year
500
00:22:28,529 --> 00:22:32,470
and the epicenter
was only 100 miles
501
00:22:32,571 --> 00:22:35,510
from what was
the ancient city of Babylon.
502
00:22:36,679 --> 00:22:39,618
SHATNER:
If an earthquake
did destroy the ziggurat,
503
00:22:39,685 --> 00:22:43,091
that could lend support
to the theory that it was
504
00:22:43,091 --> 00:22:43,158
that could lend support
to the theory that it was
the legendary Tower of Babel.
505
00:22:43,158 --> 00:22:45,763
the legendary Tower of Babel.
506
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,068
But many experts believe
507
00:22:48,168 --> 00:22:50,640
the true power
of the Tower of Babel story
508
00:22:50,707 --> 00:22:54,615
is that thousands
of years later, its warning
509
00:22:54,681 --> 00:22:59,490
about the consequences of
challenging God still endures.
510
00:22:59,558 --> 00:23:02,429
CARGILL:
The story of
the Tower of Babel is
511
00:23:02,564 --> 00:23:04,735
absolutely fascinating because
512
00:23:04,835 --> 00:23:08,342
you have God basically
curse all of humankind
513
00:23:08,441 --> 00:23:10,580
by scrambling
all of the language.
514
00:23:10,713 --> 00:23:12,216
And the moral to the story being
515
00:23:12,483 --> 00:23:14,354
you're not supposed to show
that kind of arrogance.
516
00:23:14,487 --> 00:23:16,725
You shouldn't try
to be like God.
517
00:23:17,727 --> 00:23:21,702
Did an earthquake topple
the Tower of Babel?
518
00:23:21,735 --> 00:23:25,409
And if so, is it possible
that catastrophic disasters
519
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:28,081
can actually be directed
by the hand of God?
520
00:23:29,116 --> 00:23:31,889
Perhaps further clues
can be found by examining
521
00:23:31,889 --> 00:23:31,923
Perhaps further clues
can be found by examining
the Plagues of Egypt,
522
00:23:31,923 --> 00:23:33,693
the Plagues of Egypt,
523
00:23:33,726 --> 00:23:36,130
where God is said to have
harnessed the power of nature
524
00:23:36,130 --> 00:23:36,164
where God is said to have
harnessed the power of nature
not once but ten times.
525
00:23:36,164 --> 00:23:39,538
not once but ten times.
526
00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:46,519
SHATNER:
The Nile River, Egypt.
527
00:23:46,685 --> 00:23:50,359
At a staggering 4,130 miles,
528
00:23:50,526 --> 00:23:51,830
this river that winds
529
00:23:51,929 --> 00:23:53,933
through the deserts
of northern Africa
530
00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:56,872
is considered to be
the longest in the world.
531
00:23:56,972 --> 00:23:59,745
In ancient times,
the Nile was the center
532
00:23:59,878 --> 00:24:01,682
of the Egyptian civilization.
533
00:24:01,749 --> 00:24:04,354
But the Nile is perhaps
most famous for being the site
534
00:24:04,521 --> 00:24:07,561
of the Plagues of Egypt,
535
00:24:07,627 --> 00:24:10,332
a miraculous series of events
that is recorded
536
00:24:10,499 --> 00:24:12,469
in the Book of Exodus.
537
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:15,108
HUSSEIN:
In the Book of Exodus,
538
00:24:15,175 --> 00:24:17,715
the chosen people of God,
the Israelites, are in Egypt
539
00:24:17,814 --> 00:24:20,386
and they've become
enslaved by Pharaoh.
540
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,625
And so here's God,
who sends Moses
541
00:24:22,791 --> 00:24:24,695
to Pharaoh, saying,
542
00:24:24,795 --> 00:24:28,135
"Let my people,
my chosen people, go."
543
00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:32,376
Pharaoh, of course, isn't
going to let his workforce go.
544
00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:35,015
And so God sends
these ten plagues.
545
00:24:36,484 --> 00:24:39,958
SHATNER:
As the story goes, God turned
the water of the Nile River
546
00:24:39,991 --> 00:24:41,929
to blood.
547
00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:44,835
When that didn't
convince the pharaoh,
548
00:24:44,935 --> 00:24:47,907
God rained down
frogs from the sky.
549
00:24:48,943 --> 00:24:52,818
And he sent lice, flies,
pestilence, and boils
550
00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:55,189
to harm the people and animals.
551
00:24:55,222 --> 00:24:59,931
Then God summoned a mighty
thunderstorm of hail and fire,
552
00:25:00,098 --> 00:25:02,604
followed by a swarm of locusts
553
00:25:02,704 --> 00:25:04,206
that covered the land of Egypt.
554
00:25:05,075 --> 00:25:07,480
When Pharaoh
still didn't listen,
555
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,852
God created a darkness
556
00:25:09,885 --> 00:25:13,993
that lasted three days to fill
the people's hearts with dread.
557
00:25:16,698 --> 00:25:19,470
Finally, God sent
the angel of death
558
00:25:19,604 --> 00:25:22,844
to claim Egypt's
firstborn sons,
559
00:25:22,977 --> 00:25:25,215
including
the pharaoh's oldest son.
560
00:25:26,552 --> 00:25:28,455
Only then did the pharaoh
561
00:25:28,589 --> 00:25:31,829
finally set Moses
and his people free.
562
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:36,070
CARGILL:
According to the Bible,
563
00:25:36,137 --> 00:25:39,544
God is clearly responsible
for the plagues.
564
00:25:40,312 --> 00:25:41,949
However,
565
00:25:42,015 --> 00:25:45,823
you might be able
to understand how the pharaoh
566
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:48,262
might see these plagues
567
00:25:48,328 --> 00:25:52,804
as coincidence, as naturally
occurring phenomenon.
568
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,281
But when so many plagues
occur back-to-back,
569
00:25:58,281 --> 00:25:58,315
But when so many plagues
occur back-to-back,
then he's convinced.
570
00:25:58,315 --> 00:26:00,085
then he's convinced.
571
00:26:00,152 --> 00:26:05,295
It's a story about how God
wants people to be free,
572
00:26:05,295 --> 00:26:05,362
It's a story about how God
wants people to be free,
and not oppressed
and not exploited.
573
00:26:05,362 --> 00:26:08,101
and not oppressed
and not exploited.
574
00:26:09,638 --> 00:26:12,644
SHATNER:
Were the ten plagues
really acts of God?
575
00:26:12,744 --> 00:26:15,750
Or can they be
explained by other means?
576
00:26:15,883 --> 00:26:17,788
Many biblical historians agree
577
00:26:17,887 --> 00:26:20,660
that before that question
can even be answered,
578
00:26:20,827 --> 00:26:22,831
it must first be established
579
00:26:22,897 --> 00:26:26,505
whether the ten plagues
actually happened at all.
580
00:26:26,638 --> 00:26:28,374
PHILLIPS:
There exists an ancient
581
00:26:28,374 --> 00:26:28,475
PHILLIPS:
There exists an ancient
Egyptian text called
the Ipuwer manuscript...
582
00:26:28,475 --> 00:26:33,184
Egyptian text called
the Ipuwer manuscript...
583
00:26:35,155 --> 00:26:38,863
...written at the time
that the Exodus is supposed
584
00:26:38,929 --> 00:26:43,138
to have occurred,
that tells us that Egypt was
585
00:26:43,171 --> 00:26:46,745
afflicted by what
the Bible describes as plagues.
586
00:26:47,914 --> 00:26:52,256
It talks about the river
Nile turning blood red.
587
00:26:53,324 --> 00:26:56,397
It talks about plagues
of flies and locusts.
588
00:26:57,332 --> 00:27:00,139
It talks about
boils on people's skins,
589
00:27:00,205 --> 00:27:03,344
and it talks about
cattle dying in the fields.
590
00:27:03,344 --> 00:27:03,445
and it talks about
cattle dying in the fields.
So, according
to the Ipuwer manuscript
591
00:27:03,445 --> 00:27:07,788
So, according
to the Ipuwer manuscript
592
00:27:07,820 --> 00:27:11,127
the plagues of the Exodus
could actually have happened.
593
00:27:12,396 --> 00:27:15,269
SHATNER:
But if the Plagues of Egypt
did in fact take place,
594
00:27:15,368 --> 00:27:19,043
then how did so many
different calamities occur
595
00:27:19,143 --> 00:27:21,982
in such a relatively
short period of time?
596
00:27:23,819 --> 00:27:27,961
Some researchers suggest
that a natural disaster
597
00:27:28,094 --> 00:27:30,967
may have been
the cause of the plagues.
598
00:27:32,236 --> 00:27:34,942
PHILLIPS:
What's fascinating
is that many of the plagues
599
00:27:35,108 --> 00:27:38,014
described in the book of Exodus
600
00:27:38,181 --> 00:27:40,787
bear an uncanny resemblance
601
00:27:40,887 --> 00:27:43,826
to the effects
of a volcanic eruption.
602
00:27:45,262 --> 00:27:47,199
For example,
when volcanoes go off,
603
00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:51,542
you get volcanic ash clouds
that cover the skies,
604
00:27:51,708 --> 00:27:53,812
day turns to night.
605
00:27:54,915 --> 00:27:57,521
And then you get
something called iron oxide,
606
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,923
which is a red substance
607
00:27:59,056 --> 00:28:01,193
that can be thrown
out of volcanoes,
608
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:04,400
and when it goes into the water,
turns the water red.
609
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,500
and when it goes into the water,
turns the water red.
You might think
that frogs and flies
610
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:09,745
You might think
that frogs and flies
611
00:28:09,844 --> 00:28:13,084
are nothing to do
with a volcanic eruption.
612
00:28:13,184 --> 00:28:17,026
But what happens is when
a volcano goes off,
613
00:28:17,159 --> 00:28:19,798
the larger predators are killed
614
00:28:19,931 --> 00:28:23,438
by inhaling the volcanic dust.
615
00:28:24,908 --> 00:28:26,244
And because of this,
616
00:28:26,344 --> 00:28:28,414
smaller animals that would
have been eaten
617
00:28:28,414 --> 00:28:28,481
smaller animals that would
have been eaten
by the larger predators survive.
618
00:28:28,481 --> 00:28:30,753
by the larger predators survive.
619
00:28:30,886 --> 00:28:34,126
So you end up with
millions of frogs,
620
00:28:34,126 --> 00:28:34,127
So you end up with
millions of frogs,
flies, locusts,
621
00:28:34,127 --> 00:28:36,698
flies, locusts,
622
00:28:36,898 --> 00:28:38,102
other insects
623
00:28:38,201 --> 00:28:39,638
that you wouldn't
have had otherwise,
624
00:28:39,771 --> 00:28:42,442
just like the plagues
in the Bible.
625
00:28:44,013 --> 00:28:46,184
MICHIO KAKU: If you have
atmospheric anomalies
626
00:28:46,284 --> 00:28:49,023
created by the eruption
of this volcano,
627
00:28:49,056 --> 00:28:51,662
all of a sudden, everything
you're accustomed to seeing,
628
00:28:51,762 --> 00:28:54,968
night and day
and cycles of temperature,
629
00:28:55,035 --> 00:28:57,774
get thrown out of kilter
because of a major eruption
630
00:28:57,941 --> 00:28:59,176
that has taken place.
631
00:28:59,310 --> 00:29:01,816
That may have caused
the ten plagues
632
00:29:01,915 --> 00:29:05,322
mentioned in the Bible
that afflicted Egypt.
633
00:29:06,925 --> 00:29:09,097
SHATNER:
Is it possible
that the Plagues of Egypt
634
00:29:09,196 --> 00:29:12,403
were caused by fallout
from a volcanic eruption?
635
00:29:12,436 --> 00:29:13,539
Perhaps.
636
00:29:14,874 --> 00:29:17,113
But what could explain
the tenth and final plague:
637
00:29:17,245 --> 00:29:20,185
the death of Egypt's firstborn?
638
00:29:21,855 --> 00:29:23,124
HUSSEIN:
There's no easy explanation
639
00:29:23,224 --> 00:29:25,763
for this angel
of the Lord who slays
640
00:29:25,963 --> 00:29:28,603
the firstborn of Egypt
641
00:29:28,836 --> 00:29:31,374
or why this happens,
other than this is God saying,
642
00:29:31,374 --> 00:29:31,440
or why this happens,
other than this is God saying,
"Okay, here's the last straw."
643
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,313
"Okay, here's the last straw."
644
00:29:36,083 --> 00:29:38,689
But oftentimes,
the point of the story
645
00:29:38,822 --> 00:29:41,161
isn't to talk
about scientific truths.
646
00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:43,565
It's to talk about
human relationships.
647
00:29:44,968 --> 00:29:48,275
It's about what do we do
when we're not living
648
00:29:48,341 --> 00:29:50,412
in right relationship
with God or with each other.
649
00:29:51,380 --> 00:29:53,218
The story of the ten plagues
650
00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:58,929
persists because it's not about
the science of the miracle.
651
00:29:59,898 --> 00:30:01,434
It's about freedom.
652
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:06,779
When God successfully gets
the Hebrews out of Egypt,
653
00:30:06,845 --> 00:30:09,517
that's when they turn
to the heavens and say,
654
00:30:09,517 --> 00:30:09,585
that's when they turn
to the heavens and say,
"God works in mysterious ways."
655
00:30:09,585 --> 00:30:12,089
"God works in mysterious ways."
656
00:30:12,255 --> 00:30:14,294
Were the ten plagues caused
657
00:30:14,393 --> 00:30:16,999
by a naturally occurring
volcanic eruption
658
00:30:17,165 --> 00:30:19,638
or by an act of God?
659
00:30:19,871 --> 00:30:24,112
For many, the answer may simply
come down to a matter of faith.
660
00:30:24,146 --> 00:30:28,021
But perhaps we can learn more
about the power of faith
661
00:30:28,087 --> 00:30:31,460
by examining how the ancient
Hebrews escaped Egypt
662
00:30:31,460 --> 00:30:31,528
by examining how the ancient
Hebrews escaped Egypt
when Moses held out his staff
663
00:30:31,528 --> 00:30:34,033
when Moses held out his staff
664
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:37,406
and God parted the Red Sea.
665
00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:42,082
SHATNER:
In northeastern Egypt,
666
00:30:42,182 --> 00:30:44,922
there's a 120-mile stretch
of the Red Sea
667
00:30:45,021 --> 00:30:48,595
that separates Africa
from the Sinai Peninsula.
668
00:30:48,595 --> 00:30:48,630
that separates Africa
from the Sinai Peninsula.
In addition to being
669
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:50,265
In addition to being
670
00:30:50,331 --> 00:30:52,904
one of the busiest shipping
routes in the world,
671
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:56,144
the Red Sea is also widely
believed to be the site
672
00:30:56,177 --> 00:31:00,653
of a miracle that continues
to capture our imagination.
673
00:31:02,222 --> 00:31:04,795
CARGILL: Following
the story of the Exodus,
674
00:31:04,928 --> 00:31:09,203
Moses successfully
gets the Hebrews
675
00:31:09,303 --> 00:31:11,575
out of Egypt and they take off,
676
00:31:11,575 --> 00:31:11,675
out of Egypt and they take off,
but then the pharaoh,
in his anger
677
00:31:11,675 --> 00:31:13,712
but then the pharaoh,
in his anger
678
00:31:13,979 --> 00:31:16,752
and in the realization
that he's lost his free labor,
679
00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:18,589
says, "I changed my mind,
680
00:31:18,589 --> 00:31:18,623
says, "I changed my mind,
go get those guys."
681
00:31:18,623 --> 00:31:20,425
go get those guys."
682
00:31:21,561 --> 00:31:25,102
And so now the Hebrews
find themselves on the run,
683
00:31:25,201 --> 00:31:28,007
with this massive body of water
ahead of them--
684
00:31:28,141 --> 00:31:31,849
understood to be
"the Red Sea"--
685
00:31:31,948 --> 00:31:34,921
and the Egyptian army
behind them.
686
00:31:36,625 --> 00:31:38,495
SHATNER:
According to the Bible,
687
00:31:38,529 --> 00:31:41,535
as the Egyptian soldiers were
closing in on the Israelites,
688
00:31:41,635 --> 00:31:45,609
Moses held out his staff
across the waters
689
00:31:45,609 --> 00:31:45,676
Moses held out his staff
across the waters
and God parted the Red Sea.
690
00:31:45,676 --> 00:31:48,949
and God parted the Red Sea.
691
00:31:50,653 --> 00:31:52,456
HUSSEIN:
The Israelites are able
692
00:31:52,523 --> 00:31:55,630
to walk across the sea,
and then Pharaoh's army
693
00:31:55,696 --> 00:31:58,501
comes rushing in after them,
and the sea closes in,
694
00:31:58,501 --> 00:31:58,535
comes rushing in after them,
and the sea closes in,
collapses and kills them.
695
00:31:58,535 --> 00:32:01,842
collapses and kills them.
696
00:32:01,975 --> 00:32:03,613
And so the story gets resolved
697
00:32:03,645 --> 00:32:06,184
by Moses and the Israelites
escaping through the miracle
698
00:32:06,283 --> 00:32:07,720
of God with the parting
of the Red Sea.
699
00:32:10,258 --> 00:32:13,397
SHATNER:
Biblical scholars point
to the parting of the Red Sea
700
00:32:13,464 --> 00:32:17,339
as a story that is meant
to show that the power of God
701
00:32:17,405 --> 00:32:21,213
can bring salvation
to those who are downtrodden.
702
00:32:22,382 --> 00:32:24,588
HUSSEIN:
The parting of the Red Sea,
703
00:32:24,654 --> 00:32:27,727
it's this amazing kind of story
because it very much is
704
00:32:27,727 --> 00:32:31,133
this vengeful God
705
00:32:31,267 --> 00:32:34,507
who has this
extraordinary power
706
00:32:34,574 --> 00:32:38,114
saying, "Okay, here's
the reward for the righteous."
707
00:32:38,214 --> 00:32:40,719
Moses and his people
are able to get free.
708
00:32:40,719 --> 00:32:40,820
Moses and his people
are able to get free.
Here's the punishment
for the wicked,
709
00:32:40,820 --> 00:32:42,189
Here's the punishment
for the wicked,
710
00:32:42,322 --> 00:32:43,725
you know, Pharaoh and his army.
711
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:47,466
SHATNER:
On the surface,
712
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:50,371
the parting of the Red Sea
may seem farfetched
713
00:32:50,539 --> 00:32:52,743
compared to other acts of God
714
00:32:52,743 --> 00:32:52,811
compared to other acts of God
that resemble
natural occurrences,
715
00:32:52,811 --> 00:32:55,215
that resemble
natural occurrences,
716
00:32:55,281 --> 00:33:00,491
such as the Great Flood
or the ten plagues.
717
00:33:01,528 --> 00:33:03,632
But there are some
researchers who believe
718
00:33:03,699 --> 00:33:07,306
that there is evidence to
suggest that the literal parting
719
00:33:07,372 --> 00:33:10,746
of an enormous body of water
is actually possible.
720
00:33:12,048 --> 00:33:14,119
And they claim a clue
can be found in the way
721
00:33:14,186 --> 00:33:19,296
the Bible says God used
his power to part the Red Sea.
722
00:33:19,429 --> 00:33:21,267
CARL DREWS:
The biblical account
723
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:24,608
of the parting of the water
is told in Exodus chapter 14.
724
00:33:24,707 --> 00:33:27,479
And there's two key verses.
I will read them.
725
00:33:28,715 --> 00:33:31,655
"Then Moses stretched out
his hand over the sea..."
726
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:46,117
So there's this detail
in the account that says
727
00:33:46,216 --> 00:33:48,188
how the wind blew,
and the water shifted,
728
00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:52,395
and the dry land emerged
from the sea bottom.
729
00:33:53,765 --> 00:33:55,402
SHATNER:
But what was the mysterious wind
730
00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:58,341
that God used
to part the Red Sea?
731
00:33:58,474 --> 00:34:02,717
Well, according
to some scientists,
732
00:34:02,783 --> 00:34:05,756
it could have been
an unusual weather phenomenon
733
00:34:05,756 --> 00:34:05,789
it could have been
an unusual weather phenomenon
that is known as "wind setdown."
734
00:34:05,789 --> 00:34:09,664
that is known as "wind setdown."
735
00:34:12,102 --> 00:34:13,371
DREWS:
When a strong wind blows
736
00:34:13,471 --> 00:34:15,776
on a body of water,
the body of water shifts,
737
00:34:15,776 --> 00:34:15,843
on a body of water,
the body of water shifts,
all the water in one direction.
738
00:34:15,843 --> 00:34:17,847
all the water in one direction.
739
00:34:19,383 --> 00:34:21,722
Now, on one side
it's called "storm surge,"
740
00:34:21,821 --> 00:34:24,260
because the waters
are gonna build up there.
741
00:34:24,393 --> 00:34:26,364
On the other side,
the level drops,
742
00:34:26,497 --> 00:34:28,501
and that's called
"wind setdown."
743
00:34:28,568 --> 00:34:32,610
Then, when the wind stops,
the waters come back again
744
00:34:32,610 --> 00:34:32,643
Then, when the wind stops,
the waters come back again
just like the Bible says.
745
00:34:32,643 --> 00:34:34,647
just like the Bible says.
746
00:34:36,317 --> 00:34:40,392
One theory is that Moses
could have timed it.
747
00:34:40,458 --> 00:34:44,467
He knew when the next
rush of water would come in.
748
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,305
And the Egyptians
would blindly walk
749
00:34:47,439 --> 00:34:49,644
into the trap and get flooded.
750
00:34:50,746 --> 00:34:54,555
DREWS:
This kind of event happens
only by hourly timing,
751
00:34:54,587 --> 00:34:58,562
and the Bible reports that God
told Moses to be at this place
752
00:34:58,628 --> 00:35:02,202
and at this time and be ready
for what's gonna happen.
753
00:35:02,302 --> 00:35:05,843
So, the mystery here
is really in the timing.
754
00:35:07,445 --> 00:35:09,817
Could the parting of
the Red Sea have been the result
755
00:35:09,817 --> 00:35:09,818
Could the parting of
the Red Sea have been the result
of a weather phenomenon?
756
00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:11,487
of a weather phenomenon?
757
00:35:11,554 --> 00:35:14,828
Some scientists believe
that it's plausible,
758
00:35:14,894 --> 00:35:18,101
particularly since there
are multiple historical accounts
759
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,675
of strange wind
activity in this area.
760
00:35:22,643 --> 00:35:24,981
In the year 1798,
761
00:35:25,148 --> 00:35:27,118
Napoleon and his troops
762
00:35:27,218 --> 00:35:30,593
were crossing
over the Red Sea area.
763
00:35:30,726 --> 00:35:34,534
But then, water
suddenly rushes in,
764
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,709
and Napoleon's troops
almost drowned as a consequence.
765
00:35:40,211 --> 00:35:41,481
So, some people think
that what happened
766
00:35:41,648 --> 00:35:43,685
to Napoleon and his troops
767
00:35:43,785 --> 00:35:46,390
might have happened
on a much larger scale
768
00:35:46,591 --> 00:35:48,662
to the Egyptian army.
769
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,340
DREWS:
There is an account from 1882
770
00:35:54,473 --> 00:35:56,945
where a British general,
Major Tulloch,
771
00:35:57,212 --> 00:35:59,817
was surveying along
the shores of the Suez Canal
772
00:35:59,817 --> 00:35:59,851
was surveying along
the shores of the Suez Canal
in the eastern Nile Delta.
773
00:35:59,851 --> 00:36:01,053
in the eastern Nile Delta.
774
00:36:02,389 --> 00:36:07,534
He describes how the wind blew
all night long from the east,
775
00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:09,837
and he had to go into
his tent and hunker down.
776
00:36:09,837 --> 00:36:09,838
and he had to go into
his tent and hunker down.
The next morning,
777
00:36:09,838 --> 00:36:11,708
The next morning,
778
00:36:11,741 --> 00:36:15,616
he reports that the natives were
walking around on dry ground
779
00:36:15,682 --> 00:36:19,122
where the previous day
they had been in their boats.
780
00:36:19,222 --> 00:36:21,393
Immediately,
it flashed to his mind:
781
00:36:21,493 --> 00:36:23,899
this is like Moses
and the Israelites
782
00:36:23,899 --> 00:36:23,966
this is like Moses
and the Israelites
and the parting of the Red Sea.
783
00:36:23,966 --> 00:36:25,468
and the parting of the Red Sea.
784
00:36:26,771 --> 00:36:29,443
ROBERT RUSSELL:
The miracles of the Bible
785
00:36:29,544 --> 00:36:32,349
in some way reflect
our limited knowledge
786
00:36:32,516 --> 00:36:33,685
of the way the world works.
787
00:36:34,654 --> 00:36:36,224
People didn't have the science
788
00:36:36,323 --> 00:36:38,929
to describe the underlying
events in nature.
789
00:36:38,929 --> 00:36:38,996
to describe the underlying
events in nature.
And even now, we don't have
790
00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:41,467
And even now, we don't have
791
00:36:41,534 --> 00:36:44,741
enough knowledge to know
why some events happen.
792
00:36:44,774 --> 00:36:48,582
The point is that scientific
knowledge of natural processes
793
00:36:48,682 --> 00:36:50,986
doesn't exclude God
bringing them about.
794
00:36:52,255 --> 00:36:54,359
God acts through these events.
795
00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:59,169
The debate as to whether
God could be responsible
796
00:36:59,302 --> 00:37:01,841
for inexplicable
natural phenomena
797
00:37:01,941 --> 00:37:04,547
is not limited to
stories from the Bible.
798
00:37:04,647 --> 00:37:07,051
In fact, there are many
who wonder whether
799
00:37:07,285 --> 00:37:10,993
some of the most powerful
disasters in our world today
800
00:37:10,993 --> 00:37:11,027
some of the most powerful
disasters in our world today
could also be signs
801
00:37:11,027 --> 00:37:13,565
could also be signs
802
00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:15,769
of divine intervention.
803
00:37:23,685 --> 00:37:27,960
SHATNER:
A 7.2 magnitude earthquake
levels the country,
804
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,027
SHATNER:
A 7.2 magnitude earthquake
levels the country,
and more than
2,000 people are killed.
805
00:37:28,027 --> 00:37:31,033
and more than
2,000 people are killed.
806
00:37:32,469 --> 00:37:34,073
In the hours following
the initial jolt,
807
00:37:34,306 --> 00:37:38,849
aftershocks collapse hundreds of
thousands of weakened buildings
808
00:37:38,982 --> 00:37:42,489
and torrential rains
flood the streets,
809
00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:45,729
causing billions
of dollars in damages.
810
00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:49,571
HUSSEIN:
Haiti is an example
of good people
811
00:37:49,637 --> 00:37:51,875
who have horrible
things happen to them.
812
00:37:52,943 --> 00:37:55,983
The fact that you have
people who are religious...
813
00:37:58,722 --> 00:38:01,961
...having to do burials
literally in the rubble...
814
00:38:03,798 --> 00:38:07,338
...and as they're doing
the burials, a flood comes.
815
00:38:07,472 --> 00:38:08,975
How do you make sense of this?
816
00:38:11,346 --> 00:38:13,852
Why does this happen
if God is just?
817
00:38:15,021 --> 00:38:16,691
If God is powerful, you know,
818
00:38:16,691 --> 00:38:18,628
are we cursed?
819
00:38:22,536 --> 00:38:26,009
SHATNER:
It can sometimes seem
like our world is being
820
00:38:26,009 --> 00:38:26,076
SHATNER:
It can sometimes seem
like our world is being
constantly rocked by cataclysms.
821
00:38:26,076 --> 00:38:28,548
constantly rocked by cataclysms.
822
00:38:29,617 --> 00:38:31,420
Disasters such as tsunamis,
823
00:38:31,521 --> 00:38:34,895
tornados and hurricanes
often devastate
824
00:38:35,027 --> 00:38:37,466
vulnerable communities,
wreaking havoc
825
00:38:37,633 --> 00:38:39,937
on innocent people's lives.
826
00:38:40,939 --> 00:38:42,844
It's easy to see
how these events
827
00:38:42,877 --> 00:38:46,618
might have been interpreted as
acts of God in biblical times
828
00:38:46,684 --> 00:38:49,724
when our scientific
understanding was more limited.
829
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:53,063
But there's many who believe
that a higher power
830
00:38:53,063 --> 00:38:53,130
But there's many who believe
that a higher power
continues to influence our world
831
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:55,468
continues to influence our world
832
00:38:55,535 --> 00:39:00,044
in mysterious ways that
we don't fully understand.
833
00:39:00,044 --> 00:39:00,111
in mysterious ways that
we don't fully understand.
Our brain cannot stand chaos.
834
00:39:00,111 --> 00:39:02,917
Our brain cannot stand chaos.
835
00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:05,656
We hate it when
natural disasters happen
836
00:39:05,789 --> 00:39:07,626
and there's no meaning at all.
837
00:39:08,929 --> 00:39:12,603
And so we interpret
our religious, our ethical
838
00:39:12,803 --> 00:39:14,975
standards to that event,
839
00:39:15,074 --> 00:39:17,045
and we try to make
a lesson out of it.
840
00:39:17,078 --> 00:39:21,486
It was the will of God himself
that created that disaster,
841
00:39:21,688 --> 00:39:23,759
or that anomaly.
842
00:39:23,858 --> 00:39:25,796
And so, we're hardwired
to do this.
843
00:39:25,796 --> 00:39:27,098
We can't help it.
844
00:39:27,098 --> 00:39:27,165
We can't help it.
Because a feature
of the human brain
845
00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:29,604
Because a feature
of the human brain
846
00:39:29,704 --> 00:39:31,273
is that we try to find meaning.
847
00:39:31,473 --> 00:39:33,545
To this very day,
848
00:39:33,645 --> 00:39:35,315
there are people,
when there's a drought,
849
00:39:35,448 --> 00:39:37,553
who get together
to pray for rain.
850
00:39:38,822 --> 00:39:40,693
When people feel helpless,
851
00:39:40,826 --> 00:39:43,732
when people have
nowhere to turn,
852
00:39:43,832 --> 00:39:46,839
especially during
natural disasters,
853
00:39:46,971 --> 00:39:49,275
that's when they turn
to the heavens.
854
00:39:49,409 --> 00:39:51,948
We still call them
"acts of God."
855
00:39:51,981 --> 00:39:57,125
And it goes back to all of these
ancient stories in the Bible.
856
00:39:58,862 --> 00:40:00,899
SHATNER:
Biblical scholars and historians
857
00:40:00,999 --> 00:40:03,571
suggest that humanity's
search for meaning
858
00:40:03,605 --> 00:40:06,109
is one reason why
the acts of God from the Bible
859
00:40:06,109 --> 00:40:06,177
is one reason why
the acts of God from the Bible
continue to have
relevance today,
860
00:40:06,177 --> 00:40:08,481
continue to have
relevance today,
861
00:40:08,581 --> 00:40:11,020
thousands of years
after they were recorded.
862
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:13,659
COLLINS: Science can tell us
a lot of things
863
00:40:13,858 --> 00:40:15,630
about the ancient world,
864
00:40:15,729 --> 00:40:20,471
but can science say
that the Bible is
865
00:40:20,605 --> 00:40:22,544
factual, historically factual?
866
00:40:22,643 --> 00:40:25,816
That's why archaeologists
continue to dig.
867
00:40:25,916 --> 00:40:28,187
Because if we thought
we were satisfied
868
00:40:28,187 --> 00:40:28,288
Because if we thought
we were satisfied
with what we know
at the present time,
869
00:40:28,288 --> 00:40:30,458
with what we know
at the present time,
870
00:40:30,659 --> 00:40:31,728
we'd stop.
871
00:40:32,796 --> 00:40:34,199
CARGILL:
For the believer,
872
00:40:34,499 --> 00:40:37,439
there's faith-affirming
power in these ancient
873
00:40:37,606 --> 00:40:40,679
stories in the Bible
874
00:40:40,779 --> 00:40:45,722
about a flood,
or a hailstorm, or a plague,
875
00:40:45,822 --> 00:40:50,699
or fire and brimstone
that destroys a city
876
00:40:50,766 --> 00:40:53,706
when there's lots of scientific
evidence that supports it.
877
00:40:53,805 --> 00:40:57,045
Because at the end
of the day, they can say
878
00:40:57,045 --> 00:40:58,381
this is the hand of God.
879
00:40:58,548 --> 00:40:59,984
(man chanting prayer)
880
00:41:00,051 --> 00:41:02,389
HUSSEIN:
We talk about
the mystery of faith
881
00:41:02,523 --> 00:41:03,858
because we're human beings.
882
00:41:04,827 --> 00:41:06,397
What's really key here is that
883
00:41:06,531 --> 00:41:09,336
the hand of God is
at work all around,
884
00:41:09,537 --> 00:41:13,110
whether it's in wonderful,
we would call blessed events,
885
00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:13,177
whether it's in wonderful,
we would call blessed events,
or whether
it's in horrific events.
886
00:41:13,177 --> 00:41:15,816
or whether
it's in horrific events.
887
00:41:15,916 --> 00:41:18,588
Is God there
in the hurricane? Yeah.
888
00:41:18,655 --> 00:41:21,561
Is God there in the birth
of the new child? Yeah.
889
00:41:21,627 --> 00:41:24,700
And both these things
are examples of the hand of God.
890
00:41:25,936 --> 00:41:28,107
The power is God all around us.
891
00:41:30,579 --> 00:41:32,315
So, what do you think?
892
00:41:32,583 --> 00:41:35,087
Were some of the most
famous disasters and miracles
893
00:41:35,187 --> 00:41:39,162
described in the Bible
really acts of God?
894
00:41:39,229 --> 00:41:42,669
Well, at the very least,
there are plenty of reasons
895
00:41:42,736 --> 00:41:45,776
to think that these events
did, in fact, happen.
896
00:41:45,909 --> 00:41:48,080
But as to whether
they were caused
897
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,114
But as to whether
they were caused
by a higher power...
898
00:41:48,114 --> 00:41:49,918
by a higher power...
899
00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:53,223
that, my friends, is a question
that will continue to remain
900
00:41:53,223 --> 00:41:53,224
that, my friends, is a question
that will continue to remain
unexplained.
901
00:41:53,224 --> 00:41:55,028
unexplained.
902
00:41:55,161 --> 00:41:58,735
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