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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:18,440 This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find disturbing from the start 2 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Eichmann came once a week. 3 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,680 The family had to withdraw, you know, from the living room, etc, 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,360 because they were going to have this conversation. 5 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,160 We would open the door and we would listen. 6 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,240 DISTANT CONVERSATION 7 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,800 My father recorded all that stuff. 8 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 FLY BUZZES 9 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,440 THEY LAUGH 10 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,000 My sister and I detested the figure. 11 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,840 The persona was so... weird. 12 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Trouble. Always. Darkness. 13 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Something about him that... 14 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,880 The child could detect something very negative, the child in me. 15 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Nazis have always denied their role in the Holocaust. 16 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,080 After the war, many fled Europe, 17 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,560 including the architect of the Final Solution... 18 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,120 ..Adolf Eichmann. 19 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,920 One of the last Nazi fugitives to arrive in Argentina, 20 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,000 Eichmann records a series of interviews 21 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,200 with Nazi journalist Willem Sassen, 22 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,640 admitting to his role in the Holocaust, 23 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:57,560 but after his capture by Israel, 24 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Eichmann denies everything... 25 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,280 ..hoping the tapes will never be heard during his trial in Jerusalem. 26 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,920 After years of mysterious disappearance, 27 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,200 the tapes are rediscovered. 28 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Securing full access to the recordings for the first time, 29 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,080 The Devil's Confession reveals Eichmann detailing his crimes. 30 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,240 NEWS REPORTER: Well, I'm standing in front of the courtroom 31 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,240 where Eichmann is going to face his judges, 32 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,200 and as you see, there are a lot of people already very interested. 33 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,960 People are coming and waiting outside this courtroom. 34 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,800 Eichmann is in one of the rooms on the fourth floor, we think, 35 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,800 and as you see, it's very heavily guarded, the building. 36 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 I don't think there've ever been so many correspondents 37 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,640 and writers and observers on any story since the war, 38 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,760 not even the Nuremberg Trial. 39 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,320 This trial was of critical importance. 40 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,040 It was the beginning of the process of the emergence of the Holocaust 41 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,960 from the shadows of history. 42 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,280 Gideon Hausner was a commercial lawyer. 43 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,240 He was chosen to be Attorney General, 44 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,840 he comes into office, 45 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:47,440 and he is relentless to getting this story out. 46 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,360 Eichmann in many ways was the chief logistical officer 47 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,120 overseeing deportations of Jewish persons, 48 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,400 largely from Western Europe, to killing centres. 49 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,840 He does this with full awareness that the result of deporting 50 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,600 is that they're going to be killed. 51 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,320 Eichmann refused to accept any guilt on himself. 52 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,960 He was a civil servant. 53 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 The laws of Germany are as they are, 54 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,040 and he tried to detach himself completely 55 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,040 from the ideological dimension. 56 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,000 Eichmann continually insisted that he was simply following orders. 57 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Eichmann's appearance in court and the crimes attributed to him 58 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,600 catch the attention of both the public and the press. 59 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 So who is the real Eichmann? 60 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,320 Is he simply a soldier obeying orders, 61 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200 as he presents himself and the Israeli court? 62 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Or is he the fervent Nazi that Hausner depicts? 63 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,720 The missing evidence from four years earlier in Buenos Aires, 64 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,240 as he boasts to his fellow Nazis, reveals the truth. 65 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,400 Mm. 66 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,760 Mm. 67 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Mm. 68 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,320 In the recordings, 69 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,880 Eichmann criticises other Nazis captured by the Allies 70 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,320 who deny responsibility for their actions. 71 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,840 To understand Eichmann's rationale 72 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,000 for participating in these conversations, 73 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,840 it is necessary to examine his character and life after 1945. 74 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Unable to disappear in Germany, 75 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Eichmann secures forged identity papers 76 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,280 with plans to escape the country, but is caught by the Allies. 77 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Eichmann was arrested by the Americans 78 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,520 and he was held in a prisoner of war camp. 79 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,520 The Americans had about three million 80 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Nazis prisoners at that time, 81 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,880 so Eichmann was just one more among those many million. 82 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,360 He managed to forge an ID in the name of Otto Eckmann 83 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,320 while he was being held by the Americans, 84 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,640 so he was fairly safe at that moment. 85 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,640 No-one was looking for him 86 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,880 until his name came up in the Nuremberg trials. 87 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Attention! 88 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,560 NEWSREEL: Judges from Britain, America, Russia 89 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:12,320 and France assemble in Nuremberg's courthouse. 90 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,440 The Nuremberg trial - 91 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,160 that is, the trial of the major Nazi war criminals that took place 92 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,120 between 1945 and 1946 - 93 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,600 this was the first international criminal trial in human history 94 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,680 dealing with spectacular crimes. 95 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,080 In the Nuremberg trials, his name was mentioned. 96 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,240 That appeared in the newspapers the next day. 97 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,480 The next day, he was gone. 98 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,560 He escaped from the American prisoner of war camp. 99 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Being held by the Americans was much better than being held 100 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,920 by the Russians, so it was not difficult to escape 101 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,520 from the American prisoner of war camp. 102 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Many Nazis did. 103 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,800 In Argentina, Eichmann tells Sassen the story of 104 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,000 the strange escape route he used to avoid capture. 105 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Eichmann had thought that if enough time went by, 106 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,520 his name would be forgotten 107 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,480 and he would be able to live a normal life in Germany. 108 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,520 The genocide of the Jewish people continues to preoccupy the world, 109 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,360 even in Germany, 110 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,720 where the public is slowly realising the magnitude of the Nazis' crimes. 111 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,240 WOMAN SOBS 112 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Eichmann looks for a new hiding place 113 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,960 and decides to leave his family behind to take advantage of 114 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,200 the Nazis' well-known escape route to Argentina. 115 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,040 He gets a job as an assistant to an engineering crew in the Andes. 116 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,120 His life appears to be back on track. 117 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,600 But at some point, his luck seems to have taken a turn for the worse, 118 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,600 and he was left without any real job, and he started... 119 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,880 He had a laundry firm, he worked in a rabbit farm, 120 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,080 until, towards the end, he managed to work for a real company again, 121 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,920 which was for Mercedes-Benz. 122 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Eichmann met Sassen at the ABC restaurant. 123 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,760 It was a German community restaurant in downtown Buenos Aires. 124 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,800 The waiters clicked their heels, like in military fashion, 125 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,360 and saluted the Nazis who went for lunch there. 126 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Now, the question is, who is Willem Sassen? 127 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,360 And Willem Sassen, he's an absolutely Hollywood figure, 128 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,680 a Dutch journalist at the time of the war. 129 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,320 Goebbels, the Nazi minister of propaganda, 130 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,920 sent him to the Russian front, 131 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,760 where Willem Sassen sent radio reports. 132 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,040 After the war, Willem Sassen was arrested in Holland, 133 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,480 for treason, of course, because he'd become an SS. 134 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,440 He managed to escape to Buenos Aires on this tiny ship 135 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,360 and set himself up as a journalist and as a publisher in Argentina, 136 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,600 publishing books for other Nazis who lived here. 137 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,120 The men meet occasionally until the mid-1950s, 138 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:14,240 when a series of ground-breaking books are published, 139 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,640 disclosing the original documents, 140 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,440 certificates and minutes that catalogued the Holocaust. 141 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,360 Sassen locates copies of the books and has them sent to Argentina. 142 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,160 Sassen came up with this crazy idea that he would interview 143 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,200 the mastermind of the Holocaust, and in Sassen's mind, 144 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,920 the idea was that Eichmann would prove 145 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,440 that Hitler had nothing to do with the extermination of the Jews. 146 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,840 Unfortunately for Sassen and his friends, 147 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Eichmann insisted that of course Hitler knew! 148 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,320 HE CHUCKLES 149 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:50,640 This was kind of a public event where other Nazis went to - 150 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,440 very high-ranking Nazis. 151 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,560 There's 67 reels of tape. 152 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 A lot of the tapes were taped over. 153 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,240 At the time, when Sassen was conducting these interviews, 154 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,920 these audiotapes were somewhat expensive. 155 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,800 RECORDED SPEECH, TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACK 156 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,200 TYPEWRITER BELL DINGS 157 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,560 TYPING CONTINUES 158 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,720 This was the first time anyone had taken an interest in him, 159 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,600 in Eichmann - "Tell me what you did." 160 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,920 He is very happy anyone even wants to listen, so he blossoms, 161 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,480 he flourishes. He suddenly returns to his good old days, 162 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,280 the most beautiful time in his life, as he himself defined it, 163 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,880 and thereafter, he loses all the restrictions 164 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,200 he imposed on himself, and he went with it. 165 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,000 It is just striking that Sassen, for whatever reason... 166 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,360 ..decided to continue taping Eichmann 167 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:16,440 even once he understood that Eichmann was not about to deny... 168 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,840 ..the nature of the Holocaust and his role in it. 169 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,040 In the recordings, Eichmann describes his work 170 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,040 during the war, freely answering the questions asked by Sassen. 171 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Four years later, in the Israeli court, 172 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,400 he sounds like a different man. 173 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,720 I was aware that he is following the old line 174 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,880 of many other Nazi criminals 175 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,800 who didn't have the courage to stand up in court 176 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,120 and admit their guilt. 177 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:43,800 So in order somehow to minimise the enormousness of their deed, 178 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,760 they were trying by small lies 179 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:54,280 to hide at least part of the most hideous deeds. 180 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,800 You see, actually, I was aware all the time 181 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,120 that there were two trials going on - 182 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:59,920 one in Jerusalem, where we were, trying Eichmann, 183 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,880 and the other in the world's public opinion, 184 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,160 with the proceedings televised throughout the world. 185 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040 I was well aware of this, 186 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,920 that every word I say, every movement I make, 187 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,240 is recorded and commentated upon the next day in very many countries. 188 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,840 In the Eichmann trial, 189 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,760 I was working as assistant to the television director. 190 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560 The trial had to be shown to the world. 191 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,200 The trouble was, there was no television in Israel. 192 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,840 That was the crazy thing. 193 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960 So they had brought over a team from London 194 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,000 and they decided to film the trial with four cameras 195 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000 that then went out all over the world. 196 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,080 Now, remember, we're talking 1961, 197 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,160 and there was very, very little information out at that stage, 198 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,600 so the purpose of the trial was to show the world, 199 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,880 "Look, six million Jews died. This is how it happened." 200 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,360 During the actual filming of the trial... 201 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:08,520 Well, this was the main question - who is the real Adolf Eichmann? 202 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,320 What is he feeling? 203 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Can we see anything in his face? 204 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,800 You know, I keep coming in for a close-up on him 205 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,440 to see what he's feeling. 206 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,120 In practice, he showed nothing. 207 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,280 Showing no feelings at all. 208 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,880 The speculation about Eichmann's character continues to this day. 209 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Is he a committed Nazi or a simple bureaucrat carrying out orders? 210 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Among the many journalists who cover the trial 211 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,080 is the famous writer and Holocaust survivor Hannah Arendt. 212 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,920 Arendt expects to find a killer... 213 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400 ..but sees a man whose appearance does not match 214 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,720 the crimes attributed to him. 215 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,040 She describes the moral gap between his bureaucratic demeanour 216 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:12,240 and the atrocities he committed with the term "the banality of evil". 217 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,920 I suppose there's a very interesting question we can ask, 218 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,440 which is whether Hannah Arendt would have changed her tune 219 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,320 if she had been able to hear those Sassen tapes. 220 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,720 On the tapes, Eichmann confirms his strong belief in the Nazi cause. 221 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920 He admits he was not only a bureaucrat, 222 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 but also an idealist. 223 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,680 This was not done in hiding, in a secret cave 224 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,480 high up in the Andes or hidden away in the Amazonian jungle. 225 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,000 This was done in suburban Buenos Aires, 226 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320 in the full view of all their neighbours. 227 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,040 In the tapes, you can hear Sassen's daughter playing in the background. 228 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,200 YOUNG GIRL SINGS 229 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,080 My sister and I were always singing. You know how that is... 230 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,400 ..with children. 231 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,960 My mother would say, "Stop that singing!" 232 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,280 It was my weapon. 233 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920 I used singing as a weapon, 234 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,480 because he interrupted our fun life, you know, with... 235 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,360 My father was really a lot of fun as a father. 236 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,840 But when the meetings happened, 237 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,360 my father was extracting information. 238 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,560 YOUNG SASKIA SINGS 239 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,880 He was a journalist, and he wanted to get at the story. 240 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,200 INTERVIEWER: How well did you know him? 241 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,440 Who? Eichmann. 242 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,120 I think I knew him completely. 243 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,400 What did you make of him? 244 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Er... A tragical figure. 245 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,000 A tragical figure. Because he was really not... 246 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,600 It was not his business, in reality. 247 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640 He would have liked to be a common soldier on the front. 248 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,520 That was his dream. 249 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,680 As time goes by, Eichmann's confidence increases, 250 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000 and he brings his family to join him in Argentina. 251 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,840 German parents in Argentina came to the embassy 252 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,960 to register their children for their German citizenship, German passport, 253 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,600 and his children were registered under the name "Eichmann". 254 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,600 This myth that grew up that nobody knew he was there... 255 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,560 The German expats who were loyal Nazis knew he was there. 256 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,800 He met with them, he talked to them. 257 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,040 And the Argentine police, they knew he was there. 258 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,400 The thing that was true is that the people who knew he was there 259 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920 did not care enough to go and get him. 260 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,840 NEWSREEL: Fritz Bauer survived Hitler's death camps 261 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,920 and is obsessed... 262 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Even though the Allies stopped searching for Nazi fugitives, 263 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,320 individuals like the German Jewish lawyer Fritz Bauer 264 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,720 continue to try to bring escaped criminals to justice, 265 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,720 using information they receive from around the world. 266 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,960 If not for private individuals, 267 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,160 Adolf Eichmann never would have been captured in Buenos Aires - 268 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800 first and foremost, Lothar Hermann, 269 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,680 a Holocaust survivor who happened to be Adolf Eichmann's neighbour. 270 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Lothar Hermann, who was this survivor who came to Argentina, 271 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,920 had a daughter called Silvia, 272 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,240 and his daughter made friends with one of the Eichmann kids. 273 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,360 It was not unusual for German Jews 274 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,640 to make friends with German Nazi families, 275 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,480 because in the end, they were all Germans in Argentina. 276 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:28,680 Silvia knew that her friend was called Eichmann. 277 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,920 And Lothar Hermann, I can't say he was reading the newspaper, 278 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,720 because he was blind, but I think he was having the newspaper 279 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:39,640 read to him by his daughter, and Eichmann's name appeared, 280 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,680 and of course, Lothar Hermann realised, 281 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,880 "That must be the father of your friend." 282 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440 So Lothar Hermann went and immediately wrote 283 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,760 to Bauer in Germany, saying that it's definitely him. 284 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:56,160 Bauer gave the information to the Israelis and nothing happened. 285 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,440 One has to remember that this is the late '50s, 286 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,880 and Israel is barely a third world country at that time. 287 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,440 I think the feeling was that, 288 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,120 "We have current enemies in the Arab lands, etc. 289 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,120 "Should we fight our current enemies, 290 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640 "who stand possibly to destroy us now, 291 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080 "or should we go to settle scores from before?" 292 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:25,040 Following a threat from Bauer to make his information public, 293 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,200 Ben-Gurion, Israel's first Prime Minister, 294 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,480 agrees to launch a secret mission to grab Eichmann. 295 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,840 He walked on the street, Garibaldi Street, 296 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,080 about 50 metres from his home. 297 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000 And I walked on the other side. 298 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,400 We looked at each other, I saw fear in his eyes, 299 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,560 and I said, "Uno momentito..." I even didn't finish the question 300 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,800 and he retreated. 301 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,680 I jumped on him, fell into a ditch there. 302 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,760 He then started howling and screaming and shouting. 303 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,440 The three of them dragged him, still howling, into the car. 304 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,320 And the race was up. 305 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000 During his interrogation by the Israeli police, 306 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,360 Eichmann claims that he was only following orders. 307 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,120 But in Sassen's living room, 308 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,360 Eichmann is aware that his words could incriminate him, 309 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,600 so he asks that the recordings never be heard during his lifetime. 310 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,440 When Eichmann was kidnapped, suddenly Sassen realised, 311 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,160 "Here I have a chance to make a large amount of money 312 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,640 "by selling this. 313 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,720 "And I'll finally be able to make some money out of this project 314 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:57,160 "that I spent so much time on." 315 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,160 And at the same time, he realised, 316 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480 "If I do that, the other Nazis are going to kill me," 317 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,400 cos he's being the worst traitor of all. 318 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,800 In the end, the opportunist won the battle 319 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,040 over the more cautious person inside him, 320 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,880 and he sold the story to Life Magazine in the United States. 321 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,720 Four months before the trial, 322 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:33,080 Life Magazine publishes sections of the recordings. 323 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,480 The confessions shock the world. 324 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,960 Never before had a Nazi officer admitted publicly 325 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,000 that the Holocaust was meticulously planned and carried out. 326 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,200 The publication of the Life Magazine interview was an astonishing moment 327 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,680 in the international community, to have Eichmann's words suddenly, 328 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,320 you know, splashed in front of Life Magazine, 329 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,680 which at the time was, you know, 330 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,080 one of the crucial magazines in the United States 331 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,760 and obviously also had kind of a world audience as well. 332 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,760 Life meant that this is important to America. 333 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,320 It shocked people. For many Jews, 334 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,480 it meant the world was, for the first time, really, 335 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,400 taking notice of what had happened. 336 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,720 Suddenly, the world was looking at the tragedy that had destroyed 337 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:29,840 one out of every three Jews alive on the face of the earth. 338 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,240 Americans realised that this man who was being tried is really a monster. 339 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,600 The article says there's tapes of this man talking about what he did, 340 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,640 telling the stories of what he did, describing what he did. 341 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,680 Everyone at least who has the least bit of interest in this topic, 342 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,280 "Where are these tapes?" 343 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,040 When Hausner read this interview, he immediately had to think, 344 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,280 "Oh, my God, there's a whole wealth of information out there 345 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,720 "that I don't yet have access to, and how do I get my hands on it?" 346 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,240 Sassen, he bought himself a fantastic car 347 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,840 with the money he made. He bought a Mercedes-Benz. 348 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,120 The Nazis who were still around in Argentina, 349 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,080 they moved against my father - 350 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,800 because my father betrayed, in their eyes. 351 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,880 When the Eichmann story blows into the public, I was 13. 352 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,240 My mother decides to leave. She couldn't take it. 353 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:22,800 And I suddenly was in charge of the household at 13. 354 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,880 And my sister was simply terrified. 355 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,240 Suddenly, there were, like, three or five people in my house 356 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:32,120 with big guns, and I don't know what they were, 357 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,200 Nazi affiliates, and... 358 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,360 SEVERAL MEN SHOUTING AT ONCE 359 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,720 I wasn't afraid, but it was another kind of experience that I had. 360 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:53,160 It was more like...closer to horror than to fear. 361 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,600 Among the intruders are the sons of Adolf Eichmann. 362 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,640 They demand to know why Sassen betrayed their father 363 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,320 and the location of the recordings. 364 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920 Sassen denies knowing their whereabouts. 365 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,040 With so many people seeking the tapes, 366 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,800 Sassen knows he needs a safe hiding place 367 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,880 and gives them to an old ally before fleeing to Paraguay. 368 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,280 There was a former Luftwaffe officer who also escaped to Argentina 369 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,520 after the war, this man called Dieter Menge. 370 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,240 Maybe he made a deal with Sassen 371 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:32,880 to sell the tapes to somebody and they split the money. 372 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,480 You have to bear in mind, these are Nazi adventurers, ex-SS men. 373 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,920 These were people who had no problem with lying 374 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,560 and they had no problem with lying to each other. 375 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,680 Menge takes no risks 376 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,000 and buries the tapes on his property outside Buenos Aires. 377 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,200 Eichmann's taped recollections were self-incriminating, 378 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,920 and if accepted at the trial, 379 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,920 Eichmann admitted the charges against him. 380 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,240 Unable to obtain the damning evidence on the tapes, 381 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,560 Attorney General Hausner has to rely on the excerpts 382 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,600 published in Life Magazine. 383 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,480 You could say it simplifies some of the work of the prosecution, 384 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,680 in that it complicates any kind of defence 385 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,680 that Eichmann is going to mount, 386 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:54,600 because it sounds as if he is now acknowledging his participation 387 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,680 in this genocide, 388 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,960 and doing so without the remotest expression of regret. 389 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,520 Dr Robert Servatius is chosen by the family to defend Eichmann, 390 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,880 and in the interest of holding a fair trial, 391 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,800 the Israeli government agrees to pay his salary. 392 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,200 He's a well-known lawyer in Germany after defending Nazi war criminals 393 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,880 at the Nuremberg trials. 394 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,920 HE SPEAKS IN GERMAN 395 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:56,040 Without the tapes, the court's decision 396 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,480 on whether or not to admit the Life Magazine article 397 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,920 into evidence will be crucial to proving Eichmann's guilt. 398 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:02,600 Sassen was not about to cooperate with the Israelis. 399 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,240 The contract that he signed with Life Magazine 400 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,840 permitted Life to supply some of the materials 401 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,600 to some other media organisations, 402 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,320 but specifically barred Life Magazine 403 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,320 from sharing anything with the Israelis. 404 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,560 So it raises the question of, 405 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,000 "How do you get hold of this material?" 406 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,760 This is a document showing that the assistant editor of Life Magazine 407 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,400 gave the CIA an advance copy of the text of their article on Eichmann. 408 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,520 What interests Americans is the propaganda value 409 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,920 of what Eichmann is saying in Life Magazine. 410 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,520 They were worried about how the East Germans 411 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,080 and the Soviets would use this. 412 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,360 It wasn't simply the trial of the century. 413 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,320 It was the trial of the century at the height of the Cold War. 414 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,480 The East Germans saw this as an opportunity 415 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,400 to remind the world that, "Yeah, there's only one Eichmann, 416 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,200 "but that doesn't mean there's only one bad Nazi left 417 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,760 "who deserves justice," and some of them worked for Konrad Adenauer. 418 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,560 Konrad Adenauer is the first Chancellor of West Germany 419 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,880 after World War II and is charged with leading his country 420 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,240 from the post-war chaos into the modern era. 421 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,160 The person with perhaps the most to lose 422 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,400 if the tapes are heard during Eichmann's trial 423 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,880 is Adenauer's right-hand man Hans Globke, 424 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,440 who oversaw the plan for the enforcement of 425 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,360 the Nuremberg Race Laws, later carried out by Eichmann. 426 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,160 And we know that as a lawyer-bureaucrat 427 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,680 in the Nazi system, he helped draft the Nuremberg Laws, 428 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,240 which established the legal basis 429 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:36,200 for discrimination against German Jews. 430 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,480 Eichmann's connections to Globke and other former Nazi officials 431 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,800 in the new West German government could be exposed 432 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,800 if Sassen's recordings are played in court. 433 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,040 Hausner knows that this is against the interests 434 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,640 of the West German government and his own government. 435 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,600 Despite strong opposition, 436 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,960 protests and riots led by Holocaust survivors, 437 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,280 Prime Minister Ben-Gurion is negotiating with West Germany 438 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,640 to support Israel. 439 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,720 The story of the Eichmann affair from the Israeli perspective 440 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,400 is a nostalgic, heroic, a very romantic story - 441 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,920 how David demanded justice from the already defeated Goliath. 442 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,480 But this is nothing but shadow-boxing, 443 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,400 a smokescreen that concealed the true story, 444 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,280 and the true story is the Israeli-German nuclear project. 445 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,920 Once a decision is made that Israel will launch a nuclear project, 446 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,720 there are things that have to be done. 447 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:53,280 It demands certain technology, certain materials, 448 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,600 and first and foremost, a lot, a lot of money, 449 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,720 money that the newly established state of Israel doesn't have. 450 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,680 Very quickly, David Ben-Gurion and Shimon Peres, 451 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,280 his political partner, 452 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,880 realise that the way to continue with the nuclear project 453 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,920 is by partnering with De Gaulle's France 454 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,480 and Adenauer's Germany. 455 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,280 Adenauer and Strauss, his Defence Minister, 456 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200 put a gun on the table, so to say - 457 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,360 "You want us to continue funding the nuclear project, 458 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,880 "so do not mention the name Hans Globke at the trial." 459 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,240 Ben-Gurion was well aware of Globke's part 460 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:34,880 in phrasing the Nuremberg Laws, 461 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,840 and yet he has to take care of the state he's responsible for, Israel. 462 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,760 Whilst aware of the pressure Ben-Gurion is under, 463 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,160 Hausner continues to assert his independence 464 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,760 but also make some concessions. 465 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,280 A couple of days before the trial, 466 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,920 Hausner gives Ben-Gurion the text of his opening speech. 467 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,920 And Ben-Gurion makes very few comments about it, 468 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,360 but just the only thing he asks is that 469 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:51,200 wherever Hausner refers to Germany, he refer to Nazi Germany. 470 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,080 Ben-Gurion knew Israel needed arms, 471 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,400 Israel needed financial support of Germany. 472 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,160 He may have hated doing it, but he was a practical man. 473 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,080 As the Berlin Wall is being built and sides taken in the Cold War, 474 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,840 fears continue to grow that the vital evidence 475 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,280 in the Eichmann recordings will undermine national interests. 476 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,840 Gideon Hausner, Israel's Attorney General, 477 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,640 focuses on obtaining the transcripts used by the Life Magazine article, 478 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,360 the smoking gun that will prove Eichmann's guilt to the world. 63009

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