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My first memories
of sexual abuse are
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maybe three or four years old?
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It was my brother Jim,
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coming in the middle
of the night
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and putting his hands on me.
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And my curling up in a ball
tighter and tighter,
trying to get away from it,
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and not really understanding
what was going on.
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You know, I'm a little child
and I'm trying to stop
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whatever it is
that he's doing.
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Only because I think
I probably knew somehow
that it was wrong.
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And I didn't like it.
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But I also was terrified
to try to stop it.
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I didn't know what to say.
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You just pretend
it's not happening.
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And you think that,
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maybe it's love.
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Maybe this is love.
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Him having his hands
all over me, is love.
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And I think he was very good
at making sure
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it was only one child
in that room
when it was happening.
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Whether it was Margaret or me
or Matthew or Peter.
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Where schizophrenia
is diagnosed
between age 17 and 24.
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It's a tragic story.
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To be part
of the Galvin family
is to be part of a tragedy.
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This mutation
was present in every person
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in that family
who had schizophrenia.
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They might hear voices.
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They can command them
to do things.
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Command them
to do things.
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Thrown a cat
into a bonfire,
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dismembered a dog
in a bathtub.
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This family gave us hope
that there might be a chance
to cure schizophrenia.
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He shot her first
and then he shot himself.
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Well, it started
to fall apart.
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My brothers were falling ill.
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They were losing their minds.
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They were
losing their minds.
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I remember my father coming in
and waking us up in the night
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to tell us that Brian
had had an accident
and had been killed.
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I remember a general silence
over the house.
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I remember my mother
crying a lot in her bedroom
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with the door shut.
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I remember a lot of tears.
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Complete disbelief
in the family.
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How could such
a tragedy happen?
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I was devastated.
My my parents
were totally devastated.
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Life is supposed to be
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your kids outlive you.
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You know, not something
that happens before...
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You know,
to die before you do.
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And so, everyone was shocked.
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They said that he
had committed suicide.
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Murder suicide
with his girlfriend.
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He was the first
of my siblings to die.
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You don't think
that's gonna happen
when you're a 14-year-old boy,
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that any of your brothers
are gonna die.
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When Brian
committed suicide,
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I think things
in the families changed.
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It was a lot more somber,
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I know,
especially for my parents,
it was dark.
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You tend to tiptoe around
a lot more.
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I knew something was wrong
in my house.
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My house was burning,
as I would say, and I knew it.
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And so I started spending
a lot more time
with my friends.
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Going out
and being with others
outside of the house.
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Kathy and Jim
became my father
and mother figure.
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Their child, Jim, was born,
and he and I
became fast friends
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and I think because
Kathy had this small child
and I was a small child,
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I'm wondering if my mother
didn't rely on them
to babysit.
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I loved Kathy.
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She was really
a mother figure to me.
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She had beautiful blond hair
that she would let me brush.
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Jim was probably
the most highly functioning
of my schizophrenic brothers.
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I mean, he held a career
as a bartender
for a lot of years.
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I really didn't know
that Jim was schizophrenic
while I was growing up.
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I mean, we spent a fair amount
of time at his home,
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even on sleepovers
from time to time.
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Jim, I think
the disease affected him
differently than Don.
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And, of course, you hear of
the sexual abuse of my sisters
from my older brother, Jim.
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The abuse was chronic.
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You know, I'm going from like,
three, four, five, six, seven,
eight, nine, ten.
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You know, this is continuing
on a regular basis.
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I don't know how often.
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I'm thinking it was
maybe most weekends.
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But it was either
be there with that
or be at home with Donald,
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which was terrifying too.
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I mean, 'cause Donald
had his outbursts.
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He was not without
us having to call the police.
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And him having
to go to the hospital.
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Whether it was
attempted suicide
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or whether he was getting
in a fight with my father.
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I remember
dad and Donald
getting into fisticuffs.
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They had a very big brawl.
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I mean, there were
some moments that
I've heard about
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with Donald trying to strangle
my mother and kill her.
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That had to be frightening.
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My sister, Mary, she had
a very difficult position
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in the family,
being the youngest.
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She saw it all.
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Physical violence, uh,
in the house.
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It was like choosing
the lesser of two evils.
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It was like you could be
at home with Donald,
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or you could be
at Jim and Kathy's
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and endure his sexual abuse.
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And you also keep it a secret.
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One, no one's
gonna believe me.
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Like, if I was
to go to my mother,
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she was emotionally,
probably unavailable,
at this time.
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So I'm not sure
I felt safe going to her.
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And you want to go to the zoo
and go ice skating
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so you don't wanna
upturn the apple cart.
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Because that's the one place
you feel like
you're getting some normalcy.
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Getting to be around
what felt like
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a more normal environment
than schizophrenia.
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And so it's almost like
you were willing
to tolerate it.
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Sort of like,
the price you had to pay.
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So I don't know
which was worse.
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I probably would have been
better off at home
with Donald, for sure.
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I would not have
had endured sexual abuse
at the hands of Jim.
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Of course,
athletes are in
a competitive situation,
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but so are
most teenagers these days.
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They compete for approval
and acceptance
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and then they compete
pretty well.
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My younger brothers
were all good athletes,
as the older ones were.
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But we all played hoops
together at the gym,
or swan together.
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We were all on the swim teams.
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I was really the one that was
in the forefront of hockey.
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My brothers were
coming up in the ranks.
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Where I was much older,
so I was doing my own thing.
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Those four, the younger ones,
Joseph, Mark,
Matthew and Peter,
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they were more collectively,
a group.
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Very competitive.
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I was the best.
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Each of us,
we were all selected
to the city All Star teams.
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We were very good players,
the whole family.
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My youngest brother, Peter,
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was a silky smooth
kind of player.
Just glided on the ice.
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He was effortless
in the way he played the game.
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Where Matt was a little, uh,
rough and tumble
kind of hockey player.
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He would go and get
in front of the net
and dig for the pucks.
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Joe's defense.
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Don't try to skate around him.
He's gonna knock you
in the boards.
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We did have some goals
where Joe scored
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and both Matthew and I
had both the assists
on the goal.
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They're special moments
when all three of you
get a point for the goal.
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You know,
the times of our lives,
you know.
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You play hockey
and you go out for a pizza
and a beer afterwards.
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A lot of nice,
wonderful times growing up
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until the boys started
to lose their minds.
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One day somebody
had to go to soccer practice.
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And I think Joseph
was supposed to take Matthew.
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And there was some
basic disagreement around
Joe having to take him
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or Joe being in a hurry
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or something very,
very simple.
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And Joe just took Matt
and threw him down.
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And cracked his skull open.
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And ended up
having brain surgery.
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He had a hemorrhage
on the brain that was bleeding
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and he was in the hospital
for a long time
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and came home
with his head shaved
and a huge scissor scar
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over the course of his head.
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We thought they were
just being mean.
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Uh, we thought they were, um,
just a little odd, initially,
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and then it just progressively
got worse over time.
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Dad's political
prowess in Washington
and elsewhere
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enabled him
to have great contacts
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with some of the wealthiest
people in the country.
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So he wrote to these
wealthy people
all over the country
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for grants to help out
and they did.
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Like the modern day
Robin Hood.
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Getting money from the wealthy
to give to the poor.
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You know,
what my mother loved about it
was of course,
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that it gave us access
to the arts.
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And the federal funds
that were coming to the States
for the arts and humanities
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to include the Santa Fe Opera
and Ballet West
and the Symphony
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and all these things
were suddenly
at my mother's fingertips.
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They enjoyed the people
that were involved
in that community.
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They had
a music festival
up in Aspen, Colorado,
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and I think one summer
they even brought
the New York Ballet in
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to participate
with Ballet West.
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My dad was on the cusp
of really having
a lifelong career
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that would have been so lovely
for both of them.
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And then they've got
this suicide murder
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and this schizophrenic son
at home, Donald.
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And then the chaos
of the ambulance
and the police coming
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and them taking him away
all the time.
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I think the strain
was just too great for him.
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Because he would get up
and take Peter
to hockey practice
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in the morning
on his way to Denver.
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So, here he's getting up
at whatever godly hour
to get Peter to hockey.
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I think he just...
It was all too much for him.
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He had a massive stroke
in front of my brother Peter.
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The ambulance was called,
but he couldn't speak.
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He couldn't talk,
he couldn't respond
to my mother.
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And so the ambulance came
and took him
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and my understanding was
that he was in the hospital
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for six months
after a massive stroke.
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And then when he came home,
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he was quite diminished.
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He wasn't himself.
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Because suddenly
our income was cut...
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enormously.
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So suddenly they were
having to figure out
how to rub nickels together.
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And so I think that my parents
went under enormous
financial duress at that time.
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There were no more
trips to go to Aspen
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or to Salt Lake
or Santa Fe for the opera.
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The Social Security
replaced the income
from the foundation.
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It took away the sails
of the winds of the family,
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because dad was the leader,
he was leading us
into greatness
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and riches beyond imagination.
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For Peter, having witnessed
my father's stroke,
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I'm sure that was
a pretty big impact.
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And they say schizophrenia,
while maybe it's genetic,
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perhaps it's a traumatic event
that triggers it.
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Peter was
a little troublemaker.
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Talk about mischievous,
I mean, look at that.
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That is so Peter.
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He was always
trying to keep up with
his big brothers, you know.
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You know, he was the one
that would put
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the whoopee cushion
on someone's seat.
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Or he would short sheet a bed.
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Or he would put cellophane
on the toilet,
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so when you peed,
it came back on you, you know.
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He was sort of the trickster.
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He was always the one
trying to get you somehow.
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And it drove my mom nuts.
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She just found it annoying.
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You know,
he was just annoying to her.
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Mother and Peter
did not get
along unfortunately,
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for whatever reason.
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Those two just
butted heads all the time.
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But he fell ill early.
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I think he was probably
stricken with one
of the worst cases.
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Don, Jim, Brian,
now Peter.
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He became ill
at a much younger age.
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You know, 14 years old.
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This is September 13th, 1975.
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And this is
Peter Eugene Galvin.
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Age 14.
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He was admitted in September
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and went home
two and a half months later,
in November.
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That would have been
four months after my father
had had a massive stroke.
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"The behavior increased
markedly since
the early summer period.
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After a brief improvement,
the patient went
to hockey camp
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and again suffered
a serious decompensation.
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Wetting his bed,
spitting on the floor.
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And a general increase
of aggressive
and bizarre behavior."
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Peter just was
severe right off the bat.
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Every time I turned around,
it was Peter's doing this,
Peter's doing that.
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It was always something
that Peter did
that was not right.
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Mother and he
got into an argument,
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so he I broke out
every window in the house.
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He just would not abide
by what the doctors
were asking him to do.
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He was in and out
of the hospital,
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I have no idea how many times.
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And this was just
this repetitive
revolving door with Peter.
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In and out and in and out
and in and out.
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Stopping taking
the medications.
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And he would run away
and get in trouble
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and my parents just had
such a difficult time
managing him and his illness.
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My initial
interactions with Peter
were very frustrating.
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He could be
a very difficult patient
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and he was very unpleasant.
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And, uh, not all people had
very fond memories of Peter
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when you brought him up
or you discussed him
uh, with other colleagues.
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I've seen both sides of Peter.
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I've seen the angry,
irritable, paranoid,
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accusatory side of Peter
and, um, he can be violent.
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He can be very intimidating
and very
physically threatening.
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Mom and dad
would call the police
to come get him.
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We can't handle him anymore.
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And that's with all the boys.
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I know Margaret,
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she's number 11,
I guess you'd call her,
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had her life threatened.
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She told me that.
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But didn't say
who threatened her.
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And she has probably
a very extreme difficult time
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to, uh, confront
and look people in the eye
of her own family members.
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I know
my sister, Margaret,
was afraid of Donald.
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Always afraid of him.
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Margaret and Donald
had a pretty serious conflict
that I witnessed
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where Donald pulled the phone
out of the wall.
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And I remember it
quite clearly.
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And it scared her, horribly.
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Margaret told me
that at one point,
and I didn't witness this,
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that Donald
threatened her life.
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And 'cause I think there was
maybe more to Margaret
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being the choice
to go to the Gary's.
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Sam and Nancy Gary
were good friends
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of my parents before
the schizophrenia struck.
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I've heard stories,
I don't know them all,
but I've heard a lot of them.
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How they forged
their relationship
because of the arts.
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Dad had gone to Sam
and asked him for money
for Ballet West.
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I think it was $10 million.
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They did a lot of parties
at Sam Gary's home.
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They had a beautiful home
in Cherry Hills.
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We'd go visit.
We got to swim in the pool
and jump on the trampoline.
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And there was a big gymnasium
and you know,
we loved going there as kids.
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After the disease
got a hold of my brothers,
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the house was not suitable
for my sister
to live in any more
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because of the violence
and things that went on.
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The Garys stepped in
and took Margaret
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and, uh, we were all
very grateful for that.
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The same time
that they took Margaret,
Mary was devastated.
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My mother has described
the story as that Nancy
just called to check on her
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because of Don.
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And I think my mom
just lost it
'cause somebody asked.
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It wasn't like my mother
to break down in tears
to anybody.
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And she did.
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And Nancy said,
"What can I do to help?"
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My mother said,
"I have no idea."
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And she said,
"Well, send me Margaret.
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I'll take Margaret
off your hands."
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And that was that.
It was decided.
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I saw it as, "Oh, my God.
She gets to go live
in this gorgeous home
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in Denver
with all the fancy people."
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I didn't understand
why Margaret got to
be there...
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...and I didn't.
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I did not understand that.
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Why was I left to live
with three schizophrenics?
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I was angry.
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I was furious.
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But I couldn't show it.
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Because being angry meant
that maybe you were
becoming mentally ill.
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Raising your voice,
yelling and screaming,
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or crying was what people
with mental illness did.
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I was away to college
when Matt became ill.
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When he was
becoming psychotic.
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And we were hockey teammates
and soccer teammates, uh,
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on a regular basis
through our young years.
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Matthew and Peter,
the last two siblings,
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when they became mentally ill,
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they were different people
than I could have imagined.
335
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Matt was definitely
my protector.
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He hung out with me,
he was willing to give me
the time of day,
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even though
he was in high school.
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And we drove
to soccer practice
every day together
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and played The Beatles
on the cassette
and sang songs.
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He was somebody else
that I could spend time with
that was not Jim.
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I remember Matt becoming ill.
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Peter was pestering me,
as Peter liked to do.
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I remember saying,
"Matt, Peter's teasing me."
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And Matt asking him
to please stop.
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And Matt got on top of Peter
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and started choking him.
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And I became extremely afraid
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of him killing him.
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And I ran up
to my parent's room
and locked the door.
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Matt pounded on the door,
tried to break it down.
I was terrified.
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But I remember being alone
in my parent's room
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having called the police
and the police having come
and taken Matt.
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And then he was hospitalized
for 40 years at Pueblo.
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Good to see you.
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Who are you? What's your name?
356
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Paul McCartney,
Wings Over America.
357
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I have a record
in my record collection
that proves this.
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It's in a storage unit
over on Bethune Academy.
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You name
is Paul McCartney?
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00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:54,482
Yeah, Paul McCartney Wings.
It's her real name.
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Like I said,
I got a picture right here.
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00:22:56,137 --> 00:22:57,827
I got the tapes
right here in my pocket.
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Let It Be, 1968.
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Have you
got schizophrenia?
365
00:23:13,896 --> 00:23:16,172
They say that
I have schizophrenia.
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I'm not schizophrenic,
but I have something
called schizophrenia,
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which is a synapses
of the brain functioning
368
00:23:21,655 --> 00:23:24,344
in a proper way
because of brain damage.
369
00:23:24,344 --> 00:23:25,689
I might have been
a little schizophrenic
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because I was with
a lot of people
who were schizophrenic.
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00:23:27,827 --> 00:23:29,482
But it doesn't make me
a schizophrenic.
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How do
you feel schizophrenia
has a affected your life?
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Well, schizophrenia was used
by the doctors
as an excuse to abuse me.
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They would actually drug me
with the needle for 20 years.
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00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:45,896
They put me on Clozaril
for 36 years.
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00:23:45,896 --> 00:23:47,896
And over the years,
I was just
getting tired of it.
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00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:49,896
I got tired
of the whole scene.
378
00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:51,931
The whole scene
was just a nightmare.
379
00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:53,551
Because it really didn't
do anything for me.
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00:23:53,551 --> 00:23:57,000
It just makes me think
that psychiatric medication
is not needed in my life.
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I just want to express myself.
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00:23:58,965 --> 00:24:01,379
But what do you do when, uh,
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when your friend, John Lennon
gets shot by Mark Chapman.
I'm no Mark Chapman.
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00:24:18,448 --> 00:24:21,241
"Throughout
the family sessions,
it became apparent that
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00:24:21,241 --> 00:24:25,068
the mother was unwilling
or unable to hear
unpleasant news.
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00:24:25,068 --> 00:24:27,137
There is a feeling
of emotional distancing
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00:24:27,137 --> 00:24:29,862
exhibited by many siblings
in the family.
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00:24:29,862 --> 00:24:32,275
The family structure
appears to be dominated
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00:24:32,275 --> 00:24:34,551
by a powerful
and controlling mother.
390
00:24:34,551 --> 00:24:38,517
The patient's father
is undoubtedly handicapped
by his recent stroke.
391
00:24:38,517 --> 00:24:43,172
However, it is not quite clear
how much more of a force
he was before this incident.
392
00:24:43,172 --> 00:24:46,551
The family is
extremely religious
and rigid in their style.
393
00:24:46,551 --> 00:24:48,172
They are not given
permission to disagree
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00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:50,206
with their parents,
especially mother.
395
00:24:50,206 --> 00:24:52,103
Nor are they able
to tell her anything
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which she would
find disapproving."
397
00:24:54,413 --> 00:24:55,827
When these guys
were falling,
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00:24:56,931 --> 00:24:58,206
one at a time,
399
00:24:59,482 --> 00:25:01,310
I felt that John's mother,
400
00:25:02,241 --> 00:25:04,241
she might have
had a role in it.
401
00:25:05,517 --> 00:25:08,655
I don't know why
I thought that at the time.
402
00:25:08,655 --> 00:25:12,275
But I think that's
all the way the research
was pointing at the time.
403
00:25:13,172 --> 00:25:15,034
They talked about
the schizophrenic mother,
404
00:25:15,034 --> 00:25:16,793
the mother
who raises schizophrenics.
405
00:25:16,793 --> 00:25:18,827
And we wondered
who was gonna be next.
406
00:25:18,827 --> 00:25:20,517
We never thought
Peter would go.
407
00:25:22,827 --> 00:25:25,551
Matthew.
- Matthew. No.
408
00:25:25,551 --> 00:25:28,000
Never thought that--
They were normal kids.
409
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,793
They were just normal people,
normal kids.
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00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:35,517
What happens
to you early in life,
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00:25:36,517 --> 00:25:42,000
is a critical imprint
on how your behavior goes.
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00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,827
The schizophrenogenic mother
was this idea that somehow
a mother's behavior
413
00:25:46,827 --> 00:25:49,620
towards the newborn infant
and early child
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00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:51,689
was the cause
of schizophrenia.
415
00:25:51,689 --> 00:25:53,758
Became a very popular
way of thinking.
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00:25:56,482 --> 00:25:59,034
There's no question
that many people
417
00:25:59,034 --> 00:26:02,000
who took their children
to caregivers,
418
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,827
whether it be hospital
or psychiatrists,
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00:26:04,068 --> 00:26:05,275
felt blamed.
420
00:26:06,689 --> 00:26:10,931
The fact
that psychology
at that time and before
421
00:26:11,551 --> 00:26:12,862
blamed a mother,
422
00:26:13,379 --> 00:26:15,724
infuriates me.
423
00:26:15,724 --> 00:26:20,896
And I remember going
to the University of Colorado
in Denver,
424
00:26:20,896 --> 00:26:22,206
with our entire family.
425
00:26:23,275 --> 00:26:25,034
And we were going for therapy.
426
00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:28,379
And I remember
the psychologist in the room
427
00:26:28,379 --> 00:26:32,241
turning the conversation
to it being my mother's fault.
428
00:26:32,241 --> 00:26:34,586
And I remember my mother
getting up and walking out.
429
00:26:36,068 --> 00:26:38,931
Good for her for saying,
"Absolutely not.
430
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:41,034
I will have nothing
to do with this."
431
00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:44,103
They're like,
"We're not gonna have
any of that hocus pocus."
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00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:47,103
They turned their efforts
to science and research.
433
00:26:48,241 --> 00:26:49,379
Well, I remember the days
we were thinking
434
00:26:49,379 --> 00:26:52,000
it was the iron in the water
did it to us all.
435
00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:56,758
And when we originally
got into Woodmen Valley,
it came out orange.
436
00:26:56,758 --> 00:27:00,448
And mom and dad,
they got a big
softener machines
437
00:27:00,448 --> 00:27:03,068
and, you know,
we were loading salt
438
00:27:03,068 --> 00:27:06,275
to clean the water up
that we were bathing in.
439
00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:11,862
And I was a little girl
going to get my blood tested
for vitamin deficiencies.
440
00:27:11,862 --> 00:27:14,241
So my mom
was on to this whole,
441
00:27:14,241 --> 00:27:17,724
"Oh, it must have been
not enough B-vitamins
in the diet."
442
00:27:17,724 --> 00:27:20,620
That somehow there was
something to do with nutrition
443
00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:23,000
and linking nutrition
to brain development.
444
00:27:24,172 --> 00:27:26,689
She was searching
for answers everywhere
445
00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:29,206
of what could possibly
have caused this.
446
00:27:30,379 --> 00:27:32,000
I think all
of her close friends knew
447
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,241
it was something
that wasn't her fault.
448
00:27:35,241 --> 00:27:37,034
It wasn't dad's fault.
It just happened.
449
00:27:38,275 --> 00:27:40,689
They were just trying
to keep him home
450
00:27:40,689 --> 00:27:42,793
and take care of him
the best they could
451
00:27:42,793 --> 00:27:47,482
and hopefully that that
wouldn't disrupt the rest
of the family too much.
452
00:27:49,586 --> 00:27:52,827
Can you remember
when you were younger
and you lived
453
00:27:52,827 --> 00:27:55,172
on Hidden Valley Road
with your brothers
and sisters?
454
00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:58,517
Yeah, I remember all that,
but it's like,
I don't want to go back to it
455
00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,241
because it's just a nightmare
to remember everything
that happened there.
456
00:28:01,241 --> 00:28:03,172
It was so violent of a home.
457
00:28:03,172 --> 00:28:05,758
Donald Kenyon Galvin
would smash my teeth in.
458
00:28:05,758 --> 00:28:08,000
Knock my teeth in,
I had jaws broken.
459
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,724
My the jawbones were slammed
back behind my ears.
460
00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:14,724
I am half deaf in both ears
because of this.
461
00:28:14,724 --> 00:28:16,586
He made my life
a living nightmare.
462
00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:19,310
You know,
being beaten as child,
463
00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:20,758
carrying a cross
into a graveyard,
464
00:28:20,758 --> 00:28:22,103
being crucified
and resurrected
465
00:28:22,103 --> 00:28:24,241
and I got the scars
to prove it.
466
00:28:24,241 --> 00:28:27,068
From a nail, there's holes
right in my wrist here.
467
00:28:27,068 --> 00:28:28,620
There's a hole
right in that wrist
468
00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:31,068
and on both sides of my body.
469
00:28:31,068 --> 00:28:33,172
If it weren't
for my mother,
these boys would probably
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00:28:33,172 --> 00:28:36,482
be in mental hospitals,
with the key thrown away.
471
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,655
She saw to it
that they got the care
472
00:28:38,655 --> 00:28:40,000
to help make them better.
473
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,965
She always felt
there was going to be a cure
474
00:28:41,965 --> 00:28:43,689
and believed me,
she knew more about it
475
00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:45,413
by the time it was done
than most doctors.
476
00:28:45,413 --> 00:28:47,724
She could speak
the same language
477
00:28:47,724 --> 00:28:50,000
as any doctor
anywhere in the world.
478
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,310
She was very
well-educated on it.
479
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:58,448
Sometimes I wish
my mom, she would have
put them in the hospital.
480
00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:02,241
I didn't really know
what was best for them
481
00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:04,103
and perhaps she knew
better than I
482
00:29:05,068 --> 00:29:06,586
what those boys needed.
483
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:09,758
And so she decided
to keep 'em home.
484
00:29:11,551 --> 00:29:14,758
I don't think my sisters
would agree
with that decision.
485
00:29:23,275 --> 00:29:25,896
So Donald, Matthew
and Peter were not well
486
00:29:25,896 --> 00:29:27,896
and were living at home...
487
00:29:27,896 --> 00:29:28,827
with me.
488
00:29:30,517 --> 00:29:31,827
One big, happy family.
489
00:29:33,931 --> 00:29:36,689
But Jimmy and Kathy
were still there for me.
490
00:29:36,689 --> 00:29:42,137
And Jim would take Matthew
and Peter and me to do things.
491
00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:47,793
Jim was working
at the Manitou Incline,
which at that time, used to be
492
00:29:47,793 --> 00:29:51,000
a little train that goes up
this mountainside,
straight up.
493
00:29:52,448 --> 00:29:54,172
And it was fun.
You know, Jim worked there.
494
00:29:54,172 --> 00:29:56,517
He was the general manager
of the Manitou Incline
495
00:29:56,517 --> 00:29:58,068
and there were cabins
up at the top
496
00:29:58,068 --> 00:29:59,862
where he stayed
when he was working.
497
00:30:00,793 --> 00:30:04,655
Matthew, Jim and myself
went and played cards.
498
00:30:04,655 --> 00:30:06,620
You know,
I'm 12 or 13 years old
499
00:30:06,620 --> 00:30:08,275
and they're including me
in a grown up party.
500
00:30:08,793 --> 00:30:09,793
It was so cool.
501
00:30:10,172 --> 00:30:11,586
I got to play poker.
502
00:30:11,586 --> 00:30:14,137
Do probably
a few shots of whiskey
503
00:30:14,137 --> 00:30:16,793
and drink beer and...
504
00:30:16,793 --> 00:30:20,482
I remember it being
kind of a gross place.
505
00:30:22,724 --> 00:30:25,586
Like mattresses on the floor
and kind of
camping out almost.
506
00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:33,344
And I remember Matthew
passing out in the other room.
507
00:30:34,275 --> 00:30:37,620
And Jim coming to me
and I had my period.
508
00:30:42,241 --> 00:30:43,965
He did the same thing
he always did,
509
00:30:43,965 --> 00:30:45,896
forcing himself upon me.
510
00:30:45,896 --> 00:30:50,793
And my being very tiny,
you know, all of 90 pounds,
maybe 80 pounds.
511
00:30:50,793 --> 00:30:52,724
Tiny. And he was
a full grown man.
512
00:30:53,827 --> 00:30:56,172
And he would force me,
513
00:30:56,172 --> 00:30:59,000
my body to open up.
514
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,413
And he was a big guy
and he pulled
the tampon out of me.
515
00:31:03,827 --> 00:31:06,275
And then penetrated.
516
00:31:07,413 --> 00:31:10,344
And I yelled...
517
00:31:12,068 --> 00:31:13,068
for him to stop.
518
00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:15,103
I yelled.
519
00:31:16,862 --> 00:31:19,137
"Please stop. Please stop."
520
00:31:19,137 --> 00:31:21,517
And you know
the biggest reason I yelled?
521
00:31:22,551 --> 00:31:24,172
My fear of getting pregnant.
522
00:31:27,310 --> 00:31:31,275
I was terrified
of being impregnated
by my brother.
523
00:31:33,068 --> 00:31:34,206
I laid there.
524
00:31:34,206 --> 00:31:37,448
He, you know, went off
and went to bed or whatever.
525
00:31:37,448 --> 00:31:40,379
And I laid there in a ball,
just sick.
526
00:31:41,862 --> 00:31:46,517
And I remember
the next morning
wanting to get out of there.
527
00:31:46,517 --> 00:31:47,758
I wanted to go home.
528
00:31:48,862 --> 00:31:51,482
"Take me home.
I want to go home."
529
00:31:51,482 --> 00:31:53,344
When I got the courage
to tell my mother
530
00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:56,275
that this had
happened with Jim,
531
00:31:56,275 --> 00:31:59,896
I just remember saying,
"Mom, I need to talk
to you about something."
532
00:32:02,241 --> 00:32:03,482
She was very dismissive.
533
00:32:05,034 --> 00:32:06,241
Like it was no big deal.
534
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,103
She wasn't horrified.
535
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,310
Because it had
happened to her.
536
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:18,448
That her stepfather
had sexually abused her
when she was a child.
537
00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:21,931
It was like, "Yeah.
Welcome to being a woman.
Welcome to life."
538
00:32:38,758 --> 00:32:40,620
Joseph was
a wonderful person.
539
00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:43,000
Growing up,
we always I played baseball
540
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,344
and we went fishing and hiking
and rode bikes together.
541
00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:51,275
When he graduated
from high school,
542
00:32:51,275 --> 00:32:55,103
my father really
complimented Joseph
543
00:32:55,103 --> 00:32:59,103
on leaving the house
and getting a job and working.
544
00:32:59,103 --> 00:33:02,379
He got out and he started
working for the airlines.
545
00:33:02,379 --> 00:33:05,034
My dad was really proud
of the way he handled himself
546
00:33:05,034 --> 00:33:07,655
and the way he got into life.
547
00:33:07,655 --> 00:33:11,241
And then it just seems like,
overnight out of the blue,
548
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,862
all of a sudden he was
hearing voices in his head.
549
00:33:15,862 --> 00:33:18,034
Wow. It was just
a big surprise.
550
00:33:19,655 --> 00:33:21,827
When Joe became ill,
551
00:33:21,827 --> 00:33:25,000
I think that was really
the last straw.
552
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,724
I mean, that was just like,
"Oh, you've got
to be kidding me."
553
00:33:29,724 --> 00:33:34,034
Joseph knew
of the problems Matthew,
Peter, Don, Jim were having.
554
00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:36,482
He probably felt
it was happening to him.
555
00:33:37,344 --> 00:33:40,206
Maybe depressed,
being alone triggered it?
556
00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:44,103
And then he came home
and then he followed the suit
557
00:33:44,103 --> 00:33:45,931
of the rest of the boys
who were ill.
558
00:33:47,241 --> 00:33:50,275
He always complained
about hearing voices
in his head...
559
00:33:50,275 --> 00:33:52,482
...when he came home.
560
00:33:52,482 --> 00:33:56,137
He didn't really say
what they were saying,
he just said that he had 'em.
561
00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:57,724
And they would
never leave him alone.
562
00:33:57,724 --> 00:34:01,034
Like it was something
that drove him to distraction.
563
00:34:02,689 --> 00:34:04,103
"God was
telling me to do this."
564
00:34:04,103 --> 00:34:05,379
You know, that's what
he was saying.
565
00:34:05,379 --> 00:34:07,448
"Can't you hear it?
God's telling me to do this.
566
00:34:07,448 --> 00:34:10,310
I'm hearing these voices
in my ears
567
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:12,965
telling me to do this
and it's bad
and it's not good.
568
00:34:12,965 --> 00:34:14,379
I don't want to do this."
569
00:34:14,379 --> 00:34:15,482
So he was always fighting it.
570
00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:17,137
He couldn't handle the, um...
571
00:34:17,137 --> 00:34:20,172
His schizophrenic
state of being.
572
00:34:23,379 --> 00:34:24,413
You know,
he was able to just say,
573
00:34:24,413 --> 00:34:26,586
"Oh, Mary,
I wish they would just stop.
574
00:34:27,206 --> 00:34:28,862
I just want them to stop."
575
00:34:28,862 --> 00:34:31,310
And he would
often wear headphones
and listen to music
576
00:34:31,827 --> 00:34:33,379
to try to drown them out.
577
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,793
I went out in the car
with him to try to understand
this disease
578
00:34:37,793 --> 00:34:41,379
and I listened to him go on
about the voices in his head
579
00:34:41,379 --> 00:34:43,068
and that he couldn't
get rid of 'em.
580
00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:45,241
And, uh, it was just constant.
581
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,586
Joseph was
the last of them.
582
00:34:50,862 --> 00:34:56,000
And then it was just managing
five boys that were not well.
583
00:35:13,793 --> 00:35:16,034
At 20 years old,
I think I was,
584
00:35:16,034 --> 00:35:18,689
I confronted Jim face to face.
585
00:35:19,344 --> 00:35:20,827
And told him
what I thought of him.
586
00:35:21,827 --> 00:35:25,482
And he told me I was a liar,
that it never happened.
587
00:35:27,827 --> 00:35:33,000
Every time I went home
and he was there
for a family function,
588
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,275
I avoided him like the plague.
589
00:35:36,103 --> 00:35:37,413
And he knew why.
590
00:35:39,103 --> 00:35:41,413
And then he started
to become more and more ill.
591
00:35:41,413 --> 00:35:43,551
Course of time
when I was away at college
592
00:35:43,551 --> 00:35:45,344
and every time
I would go back,
593
00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:46,896
his schizophrenia was worse.
594
00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:49,275
And it became,
he was no longer cool.
595
00:35:49,275 --> 00:35:53,379
He was fat
and his wife had left him
596
00:35:53,827 --> 00:35:55,517
and Jimmy had left.
597
00:35:55,517 --> 00:35:58,172
The two of them had both
run away to California.
598
00:35:58,655 --> 00:36:00,137
I never saw them again.
599
00:36:01,241 --> 00:36:04,448
Jim's breakdowns
came when the divorce
was happening.
600
00:36:04,448 --> 00:36:08,793
And so he's becoming
very weird
and saying weird things
601
00:36:08,793 --> 00:36:12,068
and doing stupid things like
running around
The Broadmoor naked.
602
00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:22,655
I remember him
coming into the house,
irritated,
603
00:36:22,655 --> 00:36:24,000
yelling and screaming
at mother
604
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,793
for being, you know,
in his terms, a bad woman.
605
00:36:28,793 --> 00:36:33,551
And looking at me and says,
"Don't you see this hole
right here in my chest?"
606
00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:35,206
I said, "No, Jim, I don't.
607
00:36:35,206 --> 00:36:37,862
I don't see any hole
in your chest."
608
00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,172
"I've been shot.
I've been shot."
609
00:36:39,172 --> 00:36:40,413
I said, "Oh, well.
610
00:36:41,137 --> 00:36:42,655
I don't see it. I'm sorry."
611
00:36:44,275 --> 00:36:51,172
Though I just brushed it off
as another illusion
of his mental illness.
612
00:36:51,172 --> 00:36:55,206
Call it schizophrenia,
call it whatever
but he just had illusions.
613
00:36:55,896 --> 00:36:58,586
Then just went about my life.
614
00:36:58,586 --> 00:37:01,793
Next day, he was passed away.
He's dead. He had left us.
615
00:37:04,379 --> 00:37:05,310
Do you miss him?
616
00:37:05,931 --> 00:37:07,620
Jim? No.
617
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:10,655
He was nasty, mean.
He was a bad influence
all my life.
618
00:37:11,448 --> 00:37:13,172
He was totally disruptive.
619
00:37:13,862 --> 00:37:14,931
I-- No.
620
00:37:30,689 --> 00:37:33,896
I remember the night
I really felt like
I forgave him.
621
00:37:35,137 --> 00:37:37,413
I got a phone call
that he had died
622
00:37:39,206 --> 00:37:40,793
from, I think my father.
623
00:37:42,275 --> 00:37:44,000
And I remember,
at that moment,
624
00:37:44,551 --> 00:37:47,034
thinking, "That poor soul.
625
00:37:48,241 --> 00:37:50,448
That tortured,
tortured soul."
626
00:37:55,724 --> 00:37:58,655
Yeah, I think Jimmy probably
was one of the worst.
627
00:37:58,655 --> 00:38:04,551
Peter and Jimmy, I think,
were stricken with the worst
violent tendencies.
628
00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:07,000
And unruly tendencies.
629
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Peter was just
tearing up the house.
630
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
My mother would call me first,
for whatever reason.
631
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,862
"Can you please come help me
to get rid of Peter
or take him to the hospital?"
632
00:38:26,896 --> 00:38:29,551
"This 18-year-old single,
Caucasian unemployed male
633
00:38:29,551 --> 00:38:32,275
was admitted
on January 25th, 1979.
634
00:38:32,275 --> 00:38:35,758
He had been behaving
in a bizarre,
hyperactive manner,
635
00:38:35,758 --> 00:38:38,344
which was intolerable
to his family.
636
00:38:38,344 --> 00:38:41,275
Upon admission,
he was irrational
and hyperactive.
637
00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,103
His behavior
was irritating to others
638
00:38:43,103 --> 00:38:45,344
because of the intrusive,
demanding manner.
639
00:38:45,344 --> 00:38:47,965
During formal staffing,
he would stand up,
walk around the room,
640
00:38:47,965 --> 00:38:50,448
pointing his finger
and banging on the table.
641
00:38:50,448 --> 00:38:53,413
He'd also mimic
the interviewer
and the others in the room
642
00:38:53,413 --> 00:38:56,655
as well as smile
and laugh inappropriately."
643
00:38:56,655 --> 00:38:59,448
They would
evaluate him
and then he would be better
644
00:38:59,448 --> 00:39:01,965
and he would come back,
so it became
that revolving door.
645
00:39:01,965 --> 00:39:03,896
They would give him
some medicines
646
00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,758
and he would get better,
come back home.
647
00:39:06,758 --> 00:39:09,000
"Oh, I'm fine. I don't need
to take those medicines."
648
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,310
As soon as he'd
get off the medicines,
he'd get worse.
649
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000
March, 1980.
650
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
"Upon admission,
Peter was orientated,
651
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,137
and was able to recall
names of nursing staff.
652
00:39:20,137 --> 00:39:22,344
However, he was delusional
and grandiose
653
00:39:22,344 --> 00:39:25,344
with a great deal
of religiosity and agitation.
654
00:39:25,344 --> 00:39:27,517
It was necessary to seclude
and restrain him
655
00:39:27,517 --> 00:39:29,586
soon after admission
because of his behavior.
656
00:39:30,172 --> 00:39:32,241
Agitation, a psychotic state.
657
00:39:32,241 --> 00:39:34,965
He was felt to be
somewhat homicidal."
658
00:39:36,931 --> 00:39:39,620
Peter at times,
was in denial about being ill.
659
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:43,241
I've heard that he would
rather punch out his nurse
than take his meds.
660
00:39:44,344 --> 00:39:47,172
November 18th, 1985.
661
00:39:47,172 --> 00:39:52,413
"Peter Eugene Galvin
is a 25-year-old white single,
unemployed Catholic male,
662
00:39:52,896 --> 00:39:54,206
eighth admission.
663
00:39:54,206 --> 00:39:57,448
Charges of second-degree
assault on a police officer.
664
00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:04,862
Mr. Galvin was previously
found praying in downtown
Colorado Springs
665
00:40:04,862 --> 00:40:07,068
when the police
approached him.
666
00:40:07,068 --> 00:40:10,137
He became upset
and began to get hostile
with a police officer.
667
00:40:10,137 --> 00:40:14,586
Be highly agitated
and experiencing
paranoid ideation.
668
00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:18,000
He was then sent
to Colorado State Hospital
for further evaluation."
669
00:40:28,827 --> 00:40:32,931
โช The hills are alive
670
00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:39,000
โช With the sound of music
671
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,413
โช The songs have been sung
672
00:40:43,413 --> 00:40:48,586
โช For a thousand years
673
00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:53,275
โช The hills are alive
674
00:40:53,275 --> 00:40:59,413
โช With the sound of music
675
00:41:01,689 --> 00:41:02,793
What is your name?
676
00:41:03,448 --> 00:41:05,965
Peter Eugene Galvin.
677
00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:09,482
Son of Dr. D. W Galvin.
678
00:41:11,965 --> 00:41:16,137
Do you feel
that you've got
a mental illness?
679
00:41:16,137 --> 00:41:17,275
No.
680
00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:22,275
I'm all healed up
with all the doctors
and nurses.
681
00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:25,206
I'm all healed up.
682
00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:32,000
And I'm St. Peter who works
at the state hospital.
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