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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,827 --> 00:00:12,655 My first memories of sexual abuse are 2 00:00:14,275 --> 00:00:16,000 maybe three or four years old? 3 00:00:20,206 --> 00:00:21,793 It was my brother Jim, 4 00:00:21,793 --> 00:00:24,172 coming in the middle of the night 5 00:00:24,172 --> 00:00:27,000 and putting his hands on me. 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,896 And my curling up in a ball tighter and tighter, trying to get away from it, 7 00:00:30,896 --> 00:00:35,000 and not really understanding what was going on. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,896 You know, I'm a little child and I'm trying to stop 9 00:00:39,896 --> 00:00:41,482 whatever it is that he's doing. 10 00:00:43,206 --> 00:00:47,758 Only because I think I probably knew somehow that it was wrong. 11 00:00:48,379 --> 00:00:50,172 And I didn't like it. 12 00:00:51,827 --> 00:00:54,931 But I also was terrified to try to stop it. 13 00:00:54,931 --> 00:00:57,482 I didn't know what to say. 14 00:00:57,482 --> 00:00:59,620 You just pretend it's not happening. 15 00:01:01,689 --> 00:01:02,896 And you think that, 16 00:01:04,103 --> 00:01:06,000 maybe it's love. 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,241 Maybe this is love. 18 00:01:08,689 --> 00:01:12,034 Him having his hands all over me, is love. 19 00:01:14,068 --> 00:01:16,310 And I think he was very good at making sure 20 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:20,965 it was only one child in that room when it was happening. 21 00:01:22,172 --> 00:01:25,413 Whether it was Margaret or me or Matthew or Peter. 22 00:01:35,379 --> 00:01:40,931 Where schizophrenia is diagnosed between age 17 and 24. 23 00:01:40,931 --> 00:01:42,482 It's a tragic story. 24 00:01:42,482 --> 00:01:45,793 To be part of the Galvin family is to be part of a tragedy. 25 00:01:47,310 --> 00:01:51,068 This mutation was present in every person 26 00:01:51,068 --> 00:01:53,448 in that family who had schizophrenia. 27 00:01:54,931 --> 00:01:57,172 They might hear voices. 28 00:01:57,172 --> 00:01:59,275 They can command them to do things. 29 00:01:59,275 --> 00:02:01,000 Command them to do things. 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,620 Thrown a cat into a bonfire, 31 00:02:02,620 --> 00:02:05,793 dismembered a dog in a bathtub. 32 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:09,655 This family gave us hope that there might be a chance to cure schizophrenia. 33 00:02:11,172 --> 00:02:14,586 He shot her first and then he shot himself. 34 00:02:15,931 --> 00:02:17,517 Well, it started to fall apart. 35 00:02:17,517 --> 00:02:19,586 My brothers were falling ill. 36 00:02:19,586 --> 00:02:20,793 They were losing their minds. 37 00:02:20,793 --> 00:02:22,172 They were losing their minds. 38 00:02:56,931 --> 00:03:01,931 I remember my father coming in and waking us up in the night 39 00:03:01,931 --> 00:03:05,379 to tell us that Brian had had an accident and had been killed. 40 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:13,034 I remember a general silence over the house. 41 00:03:14,586 --> 00:03:18,241 I remember my mother crying a lot in her bedroom 42 00:03:19,896 --> 00:03:20,965 with the door shut. 43 00:03:21,724 --> 00:03:24,137 I remember a lot of tears. 44 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,586 Complete disbelief in the family. 45 00:03:29,586 --> 00:03:32,379 How could such a tragedy happen? 46 00:03:35,103 --> 00:03:38,689 I was devastated. My my parents were totally devastated. 47 00:03:38,689 --> 00:03:40,275 Life is supposed to be 48 00:03:41,896 --> 00:03:44,482 your kids outlive you. 49 00:03:44,482 --> 00:03:47,379 You know, not something that happens before... 50 00:03:47,379 --> 00:03:49,275 You know, to die before you do. 51 00:03:49,275 --> 00:03:51,862 And so, everyone was shocked. 52 00:03:53,896 --> 00:03:56,068 They said that he had committed suicide. 53 00:03:56,793 --> 00:03:59,689 Murder suicide with his girlfriend. 54 00:03:59,689 --> 00:04:03,103 He was the first of my siblings to die. 55 00:04:03,103 --> 00:04:06,689 You don't think that's gonna happen when you're a 14-year-old boy, 56 00:04:06,689 --> 00:04:08,551 that any of your brothers are gonna die. 57 00:04:11,103 --> 00:04:13,482 When Brian committed suicide, 58 00:04:13,482 --> 00:04:15,448 I think things in the families changed. 59 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,689 It was a lot more somber, 60 00:04:17,689 --> 00:04:21,689 I know, especially for my parents, it was dark. 61 00:04:21,689 --> 00:04:25,310 You tend to tiptoe around a lot more. 62 00:04:25,310 --> 00:04:28,103 I knew something was wrong in my house. 63 00:04:28,103 --> 00:04:31,517 My house was burning, as I would say, and I knew it. 64 00:04:31,517 --> 00:04:35,482 And so I started spending a lot more time with my friends. 65 00:04:35,482 --> 00:04:38,862 Going out and being with others outside of the house. 66 00:04:50,482 --> 00:04:53,517 Kathy and Jim became my father and mother figure. 67 00:04:53,517 --> 00:04:57,068 Their child, Jim, was born, and he and I became fast friends 68 00:04:57,068 --> 00:05:01,413 and I think because Kathy had this small child and I was a small child, 69 00:05:01,413 --> 00:05:05,793 I'm wondering if my mother didn't rely on them to babysit. 70 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,275 I loved Kathy. 71 00:05:10,275 --> 00:05:14,000 She was really a mother figure to me. 72 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,793 She had beautiful blond hair that she would let me brush. 73 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:23,206 Jim was probably the most highly functioning of my schizophrenic brothers. 74 00:05:23,206 --> 00:05:27,068 I mean, he held a career as a bartender for a lot of years. 75 00:05:28,586 --> 00:05:33,551 I really didn't know that Jim was schizophrenic while I was growing up. 76 00:05:35,724 --> 00:05:38,793 I mean, we spent a fair amount of time at his home, 77 00:05:38,793 --> 00:05:42,068 even on sleepovers from time to time. 78 00:05:42,068 --> 00:05:45,896 Jim, I think the disease affected him differently than Don. 79 00:05:48,103 --> 00:05:53,551 And, of course, you hear of the sexual abuse of my sisters from my older brother, Jim. 80 00:05:55,586 --> 00:05:57,827 The abuse was chronic. 81 00:05:57,827 --> 00:06:03,000 You know, I'm going from like, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. 82 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 You know, this is continuing on a regular basis. 83 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,620 I don't know how often. 84 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:10,931 I'm thinking it was maybe most weekends. 85 00:06:10,931 --> 00:06:15,862 But it was either be there with that or be at home with Donald, 86 00:06:16,482 --> 00:06:18,068 which was terrifying too. 87 00:06:19,793 --> 00:06:21,724 I mean, 'cause Donald had his outbursts. 88 00:06:21,724 --> 00:06:25,034 He was not without us having to call the police. 89 00:06:26,275 --> 00:06:28,586 And him having to go to the hospital. 90 00:06:28,586 --> 00:06:30,482 Whether it was attempted suicide 91 00:06:30,482 --> 00:06:34,655 or whether he was getting in a fight with my father. 92 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:39,137 I remember dad and Donald getting into fisticuffs. 93 00:06:39,793 --> 00:06:43,310 They had a very big brawl. 94 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:45,586 I mean, there were some moments that I've heard about 95 00:06:45,586 --> 00:06:49,034 with Donald trying to strangle my mother and kill her. 96 00:06:50,517 --> 00:06:51,793 That had to be frightening. 97 00:06:52,793 --> 00:06:57,586 My sister, Mary, she had a very difficult position 98 00:06:57,586 --> 00:06:59,689 in the family, being the youngest. 99 00:06:59,689 --> 00:07:01,413 She saw it all. 100 00:07:01,413 --> 00:07:03,724 Physical violence, uh, in the house. 101 00:07:03,724 --> 00:07:07,482 It was like choosing the lesser of two evils. 102 00:07:08,482 --> 00:07:10,896 It was like you could be at home with Donald, 103 00:07:10,896 --> 00:07:13,241 or you could be at Jim and Kathy's 104 00:07:13,793 --> 00:07:16,965 and endure his sexual abuse. 105 00:07:18,172 --> 00:07:20,379 And you also keep it a secret. 106 00:07:20,379 --> 00:07:22,172 One, no one's gonna believe me. 107 00:07:23,206 --> 00:07:25,172 Like, if I was to go to my mother, 108 00:07:25,172 --> 00:07:30,275 she was emotionally, probably unavailable, at this time. 109 00:07:30,275 --> 00:07:32,965 So I'm not sure I felt safe going to her. 110 00:07:34,586 --> 00:07:37,793 And you want to go to the zoo and go ice skating 111 00:07:37,793 --> 00:07:41,206 so you don't wanna upturn the apple cart. 112 00:07:41,206 --> 00:07:44,586 Because that's the one place you feel like you're getting some normalcy. 113 00:07:45,275 --> 00:07:47,000 Getting to be around what felt like 114 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,620 a more normal environment than schizophrenia. 115 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:51,586 And so it's almost like you were willing to tolerate it. 116 00:07:51,586 --> 00:07:54,206 Sort of like, the price you had to pay. 117 00:07:54,206 --> 00:07:55,793 So I don't know which was worse. 118 00:07:55,793 --> 00:07:59,827 I probably would have been better off at home with Donald, for sure. 119 00:07:59,827 --> 00:08:04,689 I would not have had endured sexual abuse at the hands of Jim. 120 00:08:08,034 --> 00:08:10,379 Of course, athletes are in a competitive situation, 121 00:08:10,379 --> 00:08:12,448 but so are most teenagers these days. 122 00:08:13,551 --> 00:08:16,103 They compete for approval and acceptance 123 00:08:16,103 --> 00:08:18,448 and then they compete pretty well. 124 00:08:18,448 --> 00:08:21,344 My younger brothers were all good athletes, as the older ones were. 125 00:08:21,344 --> 00:08:25,379 But we all played hoops together at the gym, or swan together. 126 00:08:25,379 --> 00:08:27,586 We were all on the swim teams. 127 00:08:27,586 --> 00:08:30,551 I was really the one that was in the forefront of hockey. 128 00:08:31,482 --> 00:08:34,689 My brothers were coming up in the ranks. 129 00:08:34,689 --> 00:08:38,482 Where I was much older, so I was doing my own thing. 130 00:08:38,482 --> 00:08:42,586 Those four, the younger ones, Joseph, Mark, Matthew and Peter, 131 00:08:42,586 --> 00:08:44,655 they were more collectively, a group. 132 00:08:45,034 --> 00:08:46,689 Very competitive. 133 00:08:46,689 --> 00:08:49,275 I was the best. 134 00:08:49,275 --> 00:08:53,275 Each of us, we were all selected to the city All Star teams. 135 00:08:56,344 --> 00:08:59,137 We were very good players, the whole family. 136 00:09:00,068 --> 00:09:01,896 My youngest brother, Peter, 137 00:09:01,896 --> 00:09:06,793 was a silky smooth kind of player. Just glided on the ice. 138 00:09:06,793 --> 00:09:10,000 He was effortless in the way he played the game. 139 00:09:11,448 --> 00:09:14,758 Where Matt was a little, uh, rough and tumble kind of hockey player. 140 00:09:14,758 --> 00:09:18,034 He would go and get in front of the net and dig for the pucks. 141 00:09:20,896 --> 00:09:22,413 Joe's defense. 142 00:09:22,413 --> 00:09:25,241 Don't try to skate around him. He's gonna knock you in the boards. 143 00:09:26,689 --> 00:09:30,103 We did have some goals where Joe scored 144 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:33,965 and both Matthew and I had both the assists on the goal. 145 00:09:33,965 --> 00:09:38,344 They're special moments when all three of you get a point for the goal. 146 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,551 You know, the times of our lives, you know. 147 00:09:42,551 --> 00:09:45,965 You play hockey and you go out for a pizza and a beer afterwards. 148 00:09:48,379 --> 00:09:51,068 A lot of nice, wonderful times growing up 149 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:53,448 until the boys started to lose their minds. 150 00:09:55,758 --> 00:09:59,172 One day somebody had to go to soccer practice. 151 00:09:59,172 --> 00:10:02,034 And I think Joseph was supposed to take Matthew. 152 00:10:02,034 --> 00:10:06,482 And there was some basic disagreement around Joe having to take him 153 00:10:06,482 --> 00:10:08,551 or Joe being in a hurry 154 00:10:08,551 --> 00:10:12,034 or something very, very simple. 155 00:10:14,965 --> 00:10:19,206 And Joe just took Matt and threw him down. 156 00:10:21,379 --> 00:10:23,551 And cracked his skull open. 157 00:10:25,551 --> 00:10:28,034 And ended up having brain surgery. 158 00:10:29,758 --> 00:10:32,482 He had a hemorrhage on the brain that was bleeding 159 00:10:32,482 --> 00:10:35,000 and he was in the hospital for a long time 160 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,103 and came home with his head shaved and a huge scissor scar 161 00:10:40,793 --> 00:10:42,379 over the course of his head. 162 00:10:42,379 --> 00:10:45,275 We thought they were just being mean. 163 00:10:45,275 --> 00:10:48,551 Uh, we thought they were, um, just a little odd, initially, 164 00:10:48,551 --> 00:10:51,137 and then it just progressively got worse over time. 165 00:11:12,896 --> 00:11:16,896 Dad's political prowess in Washington and elsewhere 166 00:11:16,896 --> 00:11:18,793 enabled him to have great contacts 167 00:11:18,793 --> 00:11:21,482 with some of the wealthiest people in the country. 168 00:11:21,482 --> 00:11:23,896 So he wrote to these wealthy people all over the country 169 00:11:23,896 --> 00:11:26,344 for grants to help out and they did. 170 00:11:26,344 --> 00:11:28,379 Like the modern day Robin Hood. 171 00:11:28,379 --> 00:11:31,655 Getting money from the wealthy to give to the poor. 172 00:11:31,655 --> 00:11:34,000 You know, what my mother loved about it was of course, 173 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,689 that it gave us access to the arts. 174 00:11:36,689 --> 00:11:40,448 And the federal funds that were coming to the States for the arts and humanities 175 00:11:40,448 --> 00:11:46,172 to include the Santa Fe Opera and Ballet West and the Symphony 176 00:11:46,172 --> 00:11:49,758 and all these things were suddenly at my mother's fingertips. 177 00:11:51,275 --> 00:11:54,965 They enjoyed the people that were involved in that community. 178 00:11:58,172 --> 00:12:00,689 They had a music festival up in Aspen, Colorado, 179 00:12:00,689 --> 00:12:03,275 and I think one summer they even brought the New York Ballet in 180 00:12:03,275 --> 00:12:06,379 to participate with Ballet West. 181 00:12:06,379 --> 00:12:09,482 My dad was on the cusp of really having a lifelong career 182 00:12:09,482 --> 00:12:13,034 that would have been so lovely for both of them. 183 00:12:13,034 --> 00:12:16,000 And then they've got this suicide murder 184 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,310 and this schizophrenic son at home, Donald. 185 00:12:20,896 --> 00:12:25,000 And then the chaos of the ambulance and the police coming 186 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,379 and them taking him away all the time. 187 00:12:28,379 --> 00:12:30,758 I think the strain was just too great for him. 188 00:12:32,896 --> 00:12:35,000 Because he would get up and take Peter to hockey practice 189 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,586 in the morning on his way to Denver. 190 00:12:37,586 --> 00:12:41,689 So, here he's getting up at whatever godly hour to get Peter to hockey. 191 00:12:41,689 --> 00:12:43,862 I think he just... It was all too much for him. 192 00:12:43,862 --> 00:12:46,827 He had a massive stroke in front of my brother Peter. 193 00:12:48,103 --> 00:12:50,275 The ambulance was called, but he couldn't speak. 194 00:12:50,275 --> 00:12:52,965 He couldn't talk, he couldn't respond to my mother. 195 00:12:55,896 --> 00:12:57,482 And so the ambulance came and took him 196 00:12:57,482 --> 00:12:59,965 and my understanding was that he was in the hospital 197 00:12:59,965 --> 00:13:02,724 for six months after a massive stroke. 198 00:13:05,275 --> 00:13:07,586 And then when he came home, 199 00:13:07,586 --> 00:13:09,172 he was quite diminished. 200 00:13:09,172 --> 00:13:10,551 He wasn't himself. 201 00:13:12,655 --> 00:13:14,448 Because suddenly our income was cut... 202 00:13:15,379 --> 00:13:16,896 enormously. 203 00:13:16,896 --> 00:13:20,000 So suddenly they were having to figure out how to rub nickels together. 204 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,034 And so I think that my parents went under enormous financial duress at that time. 205 00:13:27,793 --> 00:13:30,275 There were no more trips to go to Aspen 206 00:13:30,275 --> 00:13:33,793 or to Salt Lake or Santa Fe for the opera. 207 00:13:33,793 --> 00:13:37,862 The Social Security replaced the income from the foundation. 208 00:13:37,862 --> 00:13:40,275 It took away the sails of the winds of the family, 209 00:13:40,275 --> 00:13:43,689 because dad was the leader, he was leading us into greatness 210 00:13:43,689 --> 00:13:46,758 and riches beyond imagination. 211 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,068 For Peter, having witnessed my father's stroke, 212 00:13:52,068 --> 00:13:55,103 I'm sure that was a pretty big impact. 213 00:13:55,103 --> 00:13:59,172 And they say schizophrenia, while maybe it's genetic, 214 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:02,137 perhaps it's a traumatic event that triggers it. 215 00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:08,862 Peter was a little troublemaker. 216 00:14:08,862 --> 00:14:11,448 Talk about mischievous, I mean, look at that. 217 00:14:11,448 --> 00:14:12,896 That is so Peter. 218 00:14:15,034 --> 00:14:18,655 He was always trying to keep up with his big brothers, you know. 219 00:14:21,241 --> 00:14:22,206 You know, he was the one that would put 220 00:14:22,206 --> 00:14:24,793 the whoopee cushion on someone's seat. 221 00:14:24,793 --> 00:14:27,655 Or he would short sheet a bed. 222 00:14:28,689 --> 00:14:32,241 Or he would put cellophane on the toilet, 223 00:14:32,241 --> 00:14:35,379 so when you peed, it came back on you, you know. 224 00:14:35,379 --> 00:14:36,793 He was sort of the trickster. 225 00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:39,448 He was always the one trying to get you somehow. 226 00:14:41,862 --> 00:14:43,482 And it drove my mom nuts. 227 00:14:43,482 --> 00:14:45,172 She just found it annoying. 228 00:14:45,172 --> 00:14:47,827 You know, he was just annoying to her. 229 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:51,689 Mother and Peter did not get along unfortunately, 230 00:14:51,689 --> 00:14:52,689 for whatever reason. 231 00:14:53,896 --> 00:14:56,689 Those two just butted heads all the time. 232 00:14:56,689 --> 00:15:00,068 But he fell ill early. 233 00:15:00,068 --> 00:15:03,344 I think he was probably stricken with one of the worst cases. 234 00:15:09,689 --> 00:15:13,275 Don, Jim, Brian, now Peter. 235 00:15:14,965 --> 00:15:17,034 He became ill at a much younger age. 236 00:15:17,482 --> 00:15:19,206 You know, 14 years old. 237 00:15:28,034 --> 00:15:32,655 This is September 13th, 1975. 238 00:15:33,448 --> 00:15:36,068 And this is Peter Eugene Galvin. 239 00:15:36,551 --> 00:15:38,068 Age 14. 240 00:15:38,068 --> 00:15:39,793 He was admitted in September 241 00:15:39,793 --> 00:15:43,482 and went home two and a half months later, in November. 242 00:15:43,482 --> 00:15:47,275 That would have been four months after my father had had a massive stroke. 243 00:15:47,275 --> 00:15:50,896 "The behavior increased markedly since the early summer period. 244 00:15:50,896 --> 00:15:53,448 After a brief improvement, the patient went to hockey camp 245 00:15:53,448 --> 00:15:55,689 and again suffered a serious decompensation. 246 00:15:55,689 --> 00:15:58,448 Wetting his bed, spitting on the floor. 247 00:15:58,448 --> 00:16:01,448 And a general increase of aggressive and bizarre behavior." 248 00:16:02,896 --> 00:16:05,241 Peter just was severe right off the bat. 249 00:16:06,689 --> 00:16:09,689 Every time I turned around, it was Peter's doing this, Peter's doing that. 250 00:16:09,689 --> 00:16:14,000 It was always something that Peter did that was not right. 251 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,586 Mother and he got into an argument, 252 00:16:15,586 --> 00:16:18,137 so he I broke out every window in the house. 253 00:16:18,137 --> 00:16:22,724 He just would not abide by what the doctors were asking him to do. 254 00:16:24,344 --> 00:16:26,275 He was in and out of the hospital, 255 00:16:26,275 --> 00:16:29,172 I have no idea how many times. 256 00:16:29,172 --> 00:16:34,172 And this was just this repetitive revolving door with Peter. 257 00:16:34,172 --> 00:16:36,586 In and out and in and out and in and out. 258 00:16:36,586 --> 00:16:38,482 Stopping taking the medications. 259 00:16:38,482 --> 00:16:41,689 And he would run away and get in trouble 260 00:16:41,689 --> 00:16:47,000 and my parents just had such a difficult time managing him and his illness. 261 00:16:48,482 --> 00:16:52,551 My initial interactions with Peter were very frustrating. 262 00:16:53,379 --> 00:16:55,655 He could be a very difficult patient 263 00:16:55,655 --> 00:16:57,482 and he was very unpleasant. 264 00:16:57,482 --> 00:17:00,551 And, uh, not all people had very fond memories of Peter 265 00:17:00,551 --> 00:17:04,068 when you brought him up or you discussed him uh, with other colleagues. 266 00:17:04,068 --> 00:17:05,379 I've seen both sides of Peter. 267 00:17:05,379 --> 00:17:08,655 I've seen the angry, irritable, paranoid, 268 00:17:08,655 --> 00:17:12,586 accusatory side of Peter and, um, he can be violent. 269 00:17:12,586 --> 00:17:16,689 He can be very intimidating and very physically threatening. 270 00:17:16,689 --> 00:17:19,793 Mom and dad would call the police to come get him. 271 00:17:19,793 --> 00:17:21,896 We can't handle him anymore. 272 00:17:21,896 --> 00:17:23,448 And that's with all the boys. 273 00:17:25,482 --> 00:17:27,000 I know Margaret, 274 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,275 she's number 11, I guess you'd call her, 275 00:17:29,275 --> 00:17:30,586 had her life threatened. 276 00:17:30,586 --> 00:17:32,034 She told me that. 277 00:17:32,793 --> 00:17:35,344 But didn't say who threatened her. 278 00:17:36,448 --> 00:17:40,896 And she has probably a very extreme difficult time 279 00:17:40,896 --> 00:17:46,620 to, uh, confront and look people in the eye of her own family members. 280 00:17:48,793 --> 00:17:51,965 I know my sister, Margaret, was afraid of Donald. 281 00:17:51,965 --> 00:17:54,448 Always afraid of him. 282 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:59,241 Margaret and Donald had a pretty serious conflict that I witnessed 283 00:17:59,241 --> 00:18:01,724 where Donald pulled the phone out of the wall. 284 00:18:02,793 --> 00:18:04,793 And I remember it quite clearly. 285 00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:07,793 And it scared her, horribly. 286 00:18:07,793 --> 00:18:10,896 Margaret told me that at one point, and I didn't witness this, 287 00:18:10,896 --> 00:18:13,000 that Donald threatened her life. 288 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,172 And 'cause I think there was maybe more to Margaret 289 00:18:17,172 --> 00:18:19,137 being the choice to go to the Gary's. 290 00:18:22,758 --> 00:18:24,379 Sam and Nancy Gary were good friends 291 00:18:24,379 --> 00:18:28,344 of my parents before the schizophrenia struck. 292 00:18:28,344 --> 00:18:31,689 I've heard stories, I don't know them all, but I've heard a lot of them. 293 00:18:31,689 --> 00:18:35,241 How they forged their relationship because of the arts. 294 00:18:35,241 --> 00:18:38,448 Dad had gone to Sam and asked him for money for Ballet West. 295 00:18:38,448 --> 00:18:40,034 I think it was $10 million. 296 00:18:41,103 --> 00:18:43,172 They did a lot of parties at Sam Gary's home. 297 00:18:43,172 --> 00:18:45,241 They had a beautiful home in Cherry Hills. 298 00:18:45,241 --> 00:18:48,793 We'd go visit. We got to swim in the pool and jump on the trampoline. 299 00:18:48,793 --> 00:18:52,862 And there was a big gymnasium and you know, we loved going there as kids. 300 00:18:59,862 --> 00:19:02,137 After the disease got a hold of my brothers, 301 00:19:02,137 --> 00:19:05,586 the house was not suitable for my sister to live in any more 302 00:19:05,586 --> 00:19:07,965 because of the violence and things that went on. 303 00:19:08,896 --> 00:19:11,275 The Garys stepped in and took Margaret 304 00:19:11,275 --> 00:19:14,103 and, uh, we were all very grateful for that. 305 00:19:14,103 --> 00:19:16,965 The same time that they took Margaret, Mary was devastated. 306 00:19:18,689 --> 00:19:22,758 My mother has described the story as that Nancy just called to check on her 307 00:19:22,758 --> 00:19:24,896 because of Don. 308 00:19:24,896 --> 00:19:29,448 And I think my mom just lost it 'cause somebody asked. 309 00:19:29,448 --> 00:19:32,758 It wasn't like my mother to break down in tears to anybody. 310 00:19:33,896 --> 00:19:35,586 And she did. 311 00:19:35,586 --> 00:19:38,793 And Nancy said, "What can I do to help?" 312 00:19:38,793 --> 00:19:41,344 My mother said, "I have no idea." 313 00:19:42,275 --> 00:19:45,482 And she said, "Well, send me Margaret. 314 00:19:45,482 --> 00:19:47,517 I'll take Margaret off your hands." 315 00:19:49,379 --> 00:19:51,551 And that was that. It was decided. 316 00:19:53,689 --> 00:19:57,482 I saw it as, "Oh, my God. She gets to go live in this gorgeous home 317 00:19:57,482 --> 00:20:00,068 in Denver with all the fancy people." 318 00:20:01,793 --> 00:20:04,655 I didn't understand why Margaret got to be there... 319 00:20:06,137 --> 00:20:08,034 ...and I didn't. 320 00:20:09,379 --> 00:20:10,862 I did not understand that. 321 00:20:22,241 --> 00:20:25,000 Why was I left to live with three schizophrenics? 322 00:20:25,862 --> 00:20:27,034 I was angry. 323 00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:28,551 I was furious. 324 00:20:30,172 --> 00:20:31,241 But I couldn't show it. 325 00:20:35,103 --> 00:20:38,758 Because being angry meant that maybe you were becoming mentally ill. 326 00:20:40,344 --> 00:20:43,103 Raising your voice, yelling and screaming, 327 00:20:44,034 --> 00:20:46,965 or crying was what people with mental illness did. 328 00:20:57,896 --> 00:21:00,551 I was away to college when Matt became ill. 329 00:21:01,275 --> 00:21:03,241 When he was becoming psychotic. 330 00:21:04,275 --> 00:21:07,000 And we were hockey teammates and soccer teammates, uh, 331 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,551 on a regular basis through our young years. 332 00:21:10,586 --> 00:21:12,758 Matthew and Peter, the last two siblings, 333 00:21:13,758 --> 00:21:15,655 when they became mentally ill, 334 00:21:15,655 --> 00:21:19,034 they were different people than I could have imagined. 335 00:21:21,586 --> 00:21:24,793 Matt was definitely my protector. 336 00:21:24,793 --> 00:21:27,655 He hung out with me, he was willing to give me the time of day, 337 00:21:27,655 --> 00:21:29,275 even though he was in high school. 338 00:21:29,275 --> 00:21:31,551 And we drove to soccer practice every day together 339 00:21:31,551 --> 00:21:36,034 and played The Beatles on the cassette and sang songs. 340 00:21:36,034 --> 00:21:39,344 He was somebody else that I could spend time with that was not Jim. 341 00:21:42,103 --> 00:21:44,413 I remember Matt becoming ill. 342 00:21:45,448 --> 00:21:48,379 Peter was pestering me, as Peter liked to do. 343 00:21:48,379 --> 00:21:52,344 I remember saying, "Matt, Peter's teasing me." 344 00:21:53,103 --> 00:21:55,862 And Matt asking him to please stop. 345 00:21:56,793 --> 00:21:58,965 And Matt got on top of Peter 346 00:21:59,448 --> 00:22:00,758 and started choking him. 347 00:22:01,482 --> 00:22:05,068 And I became extremely afraid 348 00:22:06,275 --> 00:22:07,655 of him killing him. 349 00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:12,241 And I ran up to my parent's room and locked the door. 350 00:22:14,275 --> 00:22:17,586 Matt pounded on the door, tried to break it down. I was terrified. 351 00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:20,482 But I remember being alone in my parent's room 352 00:22:20,482 --> 00:22:23,655 having called the police and the police having come and taken Matt. 353 00:22:27,103 --> 00:22:30,620 And then he was hospitalized for 40 years at Pueblo. 354 00:22:37,172 --> 00:22:38,206 Good to see you. 355 00:22:40,689 --> 00:22:42,448 Who are you? What's your name? 356 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:43,793 Paul McCartney, Wings Over America. 357 00:22:43,793 --> 00:22:46,137 I have a record in my record collection that proves this. 358 00:22:47,275 --> 00:22:50,000 It's in a storage unit over on Bethune Academy. 359 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,551 You name is Paul McCartney? 360 00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:54,482 Yeah, Paul McCartney Wings. It's her real name. 361 00:22:54,482 --> 00:22:56,137 Like I said, I got a picture right here. 362 00:22:56,137 --> 00:22:57,827 I got the tapes right here in my pocket. 363 00:23:05,689 --> 00:23:07,344 Let It Be, 1968. 364 00:23:11,241 --> 00:23:12,413 Have you got schizophrenia? 365 00:23:13,896 --> 00:23:16,172 They say that I have schizophrenia. 366 00:23:16,172 --> 00:23:19,344 I'm not schizophrenic, but I have something called schizophrenia, 367 00:23:19,344 --> 00:23:21,655 which is a synapses of the brain functioning 368 00:23:21,655 --> 00:23:24,344 in a proper way because of brain damage. 369 00:23:24,344 --> 00:23:25,689 I might have been a little schizophrenic 370 00:23:25,689 --> 00:23:27,827 because I was with a lot of people who were schizophrenic. 371 00:23:27,827 --> 00:23:29,482 But it doesn't make me a schizophrenic. 372 00:23:29,482 --> 00:23:34,482 How do you feel schizophrenia has a affected your life? 373 00:23:34,482 --> 00:23:40,551 Well, schizophrenia was used by the doctors as an excuse to abuse me. 374 00:23:40,551 --> 00:23:43,172 They would actually drug me with the needle for 20 years. 375 00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:45,896 They put me on Clozaril for 36 years. 376 00:23:45,896 --> 00:23:47,896 And over the years, I was just getting tired of it. 377 00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:49,896 I got tired of the whole scene. 378 00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:51,931 The whole scene was just a nightmare. 379 00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:53,551 Because it really didn't do anything for me. 380 00:23:53,551 --> 00:23:57,000 It just makes me think that psychiatric medication is not needed in my life. 381 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,965 I just want to express myself. 382 00:23:58,965 --> 00:24:01,379 But what do you do when, uh, 383 00:24:01,379 --> 00:24:05,137 when your friend, John Lennon gets shot by Mark Chapman. I'm no Mark Chapman. 384 00:24:18,448 --> 00:24:21,241 "Throughout the family sessions, it became apparent that 385 00:24:21,241 --> 00:24:25,068 the mother was unwilling or unable to hear unpleasant news. 386 00:24:25,068 --> 00:24:27,137 There is a feeling of emotional distancing 387 00:24:27,137 --> 00:24:29,862 exhibited by many siblings in the family. 388 00:24:29,862 --> 00:24:32,275 The family structure appears to be dominated 389 00:24:32,275 --> 00:24:34,551 by a powerful and controlling mother. 390 00:24:34,551 --> 00:24:38,517 The patient's father is undoubtedly handicapped by his recent stroke. 391 00:24:38,517 --> 00:24:43,172 However, it is not quite clear how much more of a force he was before this incident. 392 00:24:43,172 --> 00:24:46,551 The family is extremely religious and rigid in their style. 393 00:24:46,551 --> 00:24:48,172 They are not given permission to disagree 394 00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:50,206 with their parents, especially mother. 395 00:24:50,206 --> 00:24:52,103 Nor are they able to tell her anything 396 00:24:52,103 --> 00:24:53,586 which she would find disapproving." 397 00:24:54,413 --> 00:24:55,827 When these guys were falling, 398 00:24:56,931 --> 00:24:58,206 one at a time, 399 00:24:59,482 --> 00:25:01,310 I felt that John's mother, 400 00:25:02,241 --> 00:25:04,241 she might have had a role in it. 401 00:25:05,517 --> 00:25:08,655 I don't know why I thought that at the time. 402 00:25:08,655 --> 00:25:12,275 But I think that's all the way the research was pointing at the time. 403 00:25:13,172 --> 00:25:15,034 They talked about the schizophrenic mother, 404 00:25:15,034 --> 00:25:16,793 the mother who raises schizophrenics. 405 00:25:16,793 --> 00:25:18,827 And we wondered who was gonna be next. 406 00:25:18,827 --> 00:25:20,517 We never thought Peter would go. 407 00:25:22,827 --> 00:25:25,551 Matthew. - Matthew. No. 408 00:25:25,551 --> 00:25:28,000 Never thought that-- They were normal kids. 409 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,793 They were just normal people, normal kids. 410 00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:35,517 What happens to you early in life, 411 00:25:36,517 --> 00:25:42,000 is a critical imprint on how your behavior goes. 412 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,827 The schizophrenogenic mother was this idea that somehow a mother's behavior 413 00:25:46,827 --> 00:25:49,620 towards the newborn infant and early child 414 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:51,689 was the cause of schizophrenia. 415 00:25:51,689 --> 00:25:53,758 Became a very popular way of thinking. 416 00:25:56,482 --> 00:25:59,034 There's no question that many people 417 00:25:59,034 --> 00:26:02,000 who took their children to caregivers, 418 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,827 whether it be hospital or psychiatrists, 419 00:26:04,068 --> 00:26:05,275 felt blamed. 420 00:26:06,689 --> 00:26:10,931 The fact that psychology at that time and before 421 00:26:11,551 --> 00:26:12,862 blamed a mother, 422 00:26:13,379 --> 00:26:15,724 infuriates me. 423 00:26:15,724 --> 00:26:20,896 And I remember going to the University of Colorado in Denver, 424 00:26:20,896 --> 00:26:22,206 with our entire family. 425 00:26:23,275 --> 00:26:25,034 And we were going for therapy. 426 00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:28,379 And I remember the psychologist in the room 427 00:26:28,379 --> 00:26:32,241 turning the conversation to it being my mother's fault. 428 00:26:32,241 --> 00:26:34,586 And I remember my mother getting up and walking out. 429 00:26:36,068 --> 00:26:38,931 Good for her for saying, "Absolutely not. 430 00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:41,034 I will have nothing to do with this." 431 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:44,103 They're like, "We're not gonna have any of that hocus pocus." 432 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:47,103 They turned their efforts to science and research. 433 00:26:48,241 --> 00:26:49,379 Well, I remember the days we were thinking 434 00:26:49,379 --> 00:26:52,000 it was the iron in the water did it to us all. 435 00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:56,758 And when we originally got into Woodmen Valley, it came out orange. 436 00:26:56,758 --> 00:27:00,448 And mom and dad, they got a big softener machines 437 00:27:00,448 --> 00:27:03,068 and, you know, we were loading salt 438 00:27:03,068 --> 00:27:06,275 to clean the water up that we were bathing in. 439 00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:11,862 And I was a little girl going to get my blood tested for vitamin deficiencies. 440 00:27:11,862 --> 00:27:14,241 So my mom was on to this whole, 441 00:27:14,241 --> 00:27:17,724 "Oh, it must have been not enough B-vitamins in the diet." 442 00:27:17,724 --> 00:27:20,620 That somehow there was something to do with nutrition 443 00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:23,000 and linking nutrition to brain development. 444 00:27:24,172 --> 00:27:26,689 She was searching for answers everywhere 445 00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:29,206 of what could possibly have caused this. 446 00:27:30,379 --> 00:27:32,000 I think all of her close friends knew 447 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,241 it was something that wasn't her fault. 448 00:27:35,241 --> 00:27:37,034 It wasn't dad's fault. It just happened. 449 00:27:38,275 --> 00:27:40,689 They were just trying to keep him home 450 00:27:40,689 --> 00:27:42,793 and take care of him the best they could 451 00:27:42,793 --> 00:27:47,482 and hopefully that that wouldn't disrupt the rest of the family too much. 452 00:27:49,586 --> 00:27:52,827 Can you remember when you were younger and you lived 453 00:27:52,827 --> 00:27:55,172 on Hidden Valley Road with your brothers and sisters? 454 00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:58,517 Yeah, I remember all that, but it's like, I don't want to go back to it 455 00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,241 because it's just a nightmare to remember everything that happened there. 456 00:28:01,241 --> 00:28:03,172 It was so violent of a home. 457 00:28:03,172 --> 00:28:05,758 Donald Kenyon Galvin would smash my teeth in. 458 00:28:05,758 --> 00:28:08,000 Knock my teeth in, I had jaws broken. 459 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,724 My the jawbones were slammed back behind my ears. 460 00:28:11,724 --> 00:28:14,724 I am half deaf in both ears because of this. 461 00:28:14,724 --> 00:28:16,586 He made my life a living nightmare. 462 00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:19,310 You know, being beaten as child, 463 00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:20,758 carrying a cross into a graveyard, 464 00:28:20,758 --> 00:28:22,103 being crucified and resurrected 465 00:28:22,103 --> 00:28:24,241 and I got the scars to prove it. 466 00:28:24,241 --> 00:28:27,068 From a nail, there's holes right in my wrist here. 467 00:28:27,068 --> 00:28:28,620 There's a hole right in that wrist 468 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:31,068 and on both sides of my body. 469 00:28:31,068 --> 00:28:33,172 If it weren't for my mother, these boys would probably 470 00:28:33,172 --> 00:28:36,482 be in mental hospitals, with the key thrown away. 471 00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,655 She saw to it that they got the care 472 00:28:38,655 --> 00:28:40,000 to help make them better. 473 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,965 She always felt there was going to be a cure 474 00:28:41,965 --> 00:28:43,689 and believed me, she knew more about it 475 00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:45,413 by the time it was done than most doctors. 476 00:28:45,413 --> 00:28:47,724 She could speak the same language 477 00:28:47,724 --> 00:28:50,000 as any doctor anywhere in the world. 478 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,310 She was very well-educated on it. 479 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:58,448 Sometimes I wish my mom, she would have put them in the hospital. 480 00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:02,241 I didn't really know what was best for them 481 00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:04,103 and perhaps she knew better than I 482 00:29:05,068 --> 00:29:06,586 what those boys needed. 483 00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:09,758 And so she decided to keep 'em home. 484 00:29:11,551 --> 00:29:14,758 I don't think my sisters would agree with that decision. 485 00:29:23,275 --> 00:29:25,896 So Donald, Matthew and Peter were not well 486 00:29:25,896 --> 00:29:27,896 and were living at home... 487 00:29:27,896 --> 00:29:28,827 with me. 488 00:29:30,517 --> 00:29:31,827 One big, happy family. 489 00:29:33,931 --> 00:29:36,689 But Jimmy and Kathy were still there for me. 490 00:29:36,689 --> 00:29:42,137 And Jim would take Matthew and Peter and me to do things. 491 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:47,793 Jim was working at the Manitou Incline, which at that time, used to be 492 00:29:47,793 --> 00:29:51,000 a little train that goes up this mountainside, straight up. 493 00:29:52,448 --> 00:29:54,172 And it was fun. You know, Jim worked there. 494 00:29:54,172 --> 00:29:56,517 He was the general manager of the Manitou Incline 495 00:29:56,517 --> 00:29:58,068 and there were cabins up at the top 496 00:29:58,068 --> 00:29:59,862 where he stayed when he was working. 497 00:30:00,793 --> 00:30:04,655 Matthew, Jim and myself went and played cards. 498 00:30:04,655 --> 00:30:06,620 You know, I'm 12 or 13 years old 499 00:30:06,620 --> 00:30:08,275 and they're including me in a grown up party. 500 00:30:08,793 --> 00:30:09,793 It was so cool. 501 00:30:10,172 --> 00:30:11,586 I got to play poker. 502 00:30:11,586 --> 00:30:14,137 Do probably a few shots of whiskey 503 00:30:14,137 --> 00:30:16,793 and drink beer and... 504 00:30:16,793 --> 00:30:20,482 I remember it being kind of a gross place. 505 00:30:22,724 --> 00:30:25,586 Like mattresses on the floor and kind of camping out almost. 506 00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:33,344 And I remember Matthew passing out in the other room. 507 00:30:34,275 --> 00:30:37,620 And Jim coming to me and I had my period. 508 00:30:42,241 --> 00:30:43,965 He did the same thing he always did, 509 00:30:43,965 --> 00:30:45,896 forcing himself upon me. 510 00:30:45,896 --> 00:30:50,793 And my being very tiny, you know, all of 90 pounds, maybe 80 pounds. 511 00:30:50,793 --> 00:30:52,724 Tiny. And he was a full grown man. 512 00:30:53,827 --> 00:30:56,172 And he would force me, 513 00:30:56,172 --> 00:30:59,000 my body to open up. 514 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,413 And he was a big guy and he pulled the tampon out of me. 515 00:31:03,827 --> 00:31:06,275 And then penetrated. 516 00:31:07,413 --> 00:31:10,344 And I yelled... 517 00:31:12,068 --> 00:31:13,068 for him to stop. 518 00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:15,103 I yelled. 519 00:31:16,862 --> 00:31:19,137 "Please stop. Please stop." 520 00:31:19,137 --> 00:31:21,517 And you know the biggest reason I yelled? 521 00:31:22,551 --> 00:31:24,172 My fear of getting pregnant. 522 00:31:27,310 --> 00:31:31,275 I was terrified of being impregnated by my brother. 523 00:31:33,068 --> 00:31:34,206 I laid there. 524 00:31:34,206 --> 00:31:37,448 He, you know, went off and went to bed or whatever. 525 00:31:37,448 --> 00:31:40,379 And I laid there in a ball, just sick. 526 00:31:41,862 --> 00:31:46,517 And I remember the next morning wanting to get out of there. 527 00:31:46,517 --> 00:31:47,758 I wanted to go home. 528 00:31:48,862 --> 00:31:51,482 "Take me home. I want to go home." 529 00:31:51,482 --> 00:31:53,344 When I got the courage to tell my mother 530 00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:56,275 that this had happened with Jim, 531 00:31:56,275 --> 00:31:59,896 I just remember saying, "Mom, I need to talk to you about something." 532 00:32:02,241 --> 00:32:03,482 She was very dismissive. 533 00:32:05,034 --> 00:32:06,241 Like it was no big deal. 534 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,103 She wasn't horrified. 535 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,310 Because it had happened to her. 536 00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:18,448 That her stepfather had sexually abused her when she was a child. 537 00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:21,931 It was like, "Yeah. Welcome to being a woman. Welcome to life." 538 00:32:38,758 --> 00:32:40,620 Joseph was a wonderful person. 539 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:43,000 Growing up, we always I played baseball 540 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,344 and we went fishing and hiking and rode bikes together. 541 00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:51,275 When he graduated from high school, 542 00:32:51,275 --> 00:32:55,103 my father really complimented Joseph 543 00:32:55,103 --> 00:32:59,103 on leaving the house and getting a job and working. 544 00:32:59,103 --> 00:33:02,379 He got out and he started working for the airlines. 545 00:33:02,379 --> 00:33:05,034 My dad was really proud of the way he handled himself 546 00:33:05,034 --> 00:33:07,655 and the way he got into life. 547 00:33:07,655 --> 00:33:11,241 And then it just seems like, overnight out of the blue, 548 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,862 all of a sudden he was hearing voices in his head. 549 00:33:15,862 --> 00:33:18,034 Wow. It was just a big surprise. 550 00:33:19,655 --> 00:33:21,827 When Joe became ill, 551 00:33:21,827 --> 00:33:25,000 I think that was really the last straw. 552 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,724 I mean, that was just like, "Oh, you've got to be kidding me." 553 00:33:29,724 --> 00:33:34,034 Joseph knew of the problems Matthew, Peter, Don, Jim were having. 554 00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:36,482 He probably felt it was happening to him. 555 00:33:37,344 --> 00:33:40,206 Maybe depressed, being alone triggered it? 556 00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:44,103 And then he came home and then he followed the suit 557 00:33:44,103 --> 00:33:45,931 of the rest of the boys who were ill. 558 00:33:47,241 --> 00:33:50,275 He always complained about hearing voices in his head... 559 00:33:50,275 --> 00:33:52,482 ...when he came home. 560 00:33:52,482 --> 00:33:56,137 He didn't really say what they were saying, he just said that he had 'em. 561 00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:57,724 And they would never leave him alone. 562 00:33:57,724 --> 00:34:01,034 Like it was something that drove him to distraction. 563 00:34:02,689 --> 00:34:04,103 "God was telling me to do this." 564 00:34:04,103 --> 00:34:05,379 You know, that's what he was saying. 565 00:34:05,379 --> 00:34:07,448 "Can't you hear it? God's telling me to do this. 566 00:34:07,448 --> 00:34:10,310 I'm hearing these voices in my ears 567 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:12,965 telling me to do this and it's bad and it's not good. 568 00:34:12,965 --> 00:34:14,379 I don't want to do this." 569 00:34:14,379 --> 00:34:15,482 So he was always fighting it. 570 00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:17,137 He couldn't handle the, um... 571 00:34:17,137 --> 00:34:20,172 His schizophrenic state of being. 572 00:34:23,379 --> 00:34:24,413 You know, he was able to just say, 573 00:34:24,413 --> 00:34:26,586 "Oh, Mary, I wish they would just stop. 574 00:34:27,206 --> 00:34:28,862 I just want them to stop." 575 00:34:28,862 --> 00:34:31,310 And he would often wear headphones and listen to music 576 00:34:31,827 --> 00:34:33,379 to try to drown them out. 577 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,793 I went out in the car with him to try to understand this disease 578 00:34:37,793 --> 00:34:41,379 and I listened to him go on about the voices in his head 579 00:34:41,379 --> 00:34:43,068 and that he couldn't get rid of 'em. 580 00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:45,241 And, uh, it was just constant. 581 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,586 Joseph was the last of them. 582 00:34:50,862 --> 00:34:56,000 And then it was just managing five boys that were not well. 583 00:35:13,793 --> 00:35:16,034 At 20 years old, I think I was, 584 00:35:16,034 --> 00:35:18,689 I confronted Jim face to face. 585 00:35:19,344 --> 00:35:20,827 And told him what I thought of him. 586 00:35:21,827 --> 00:35:25,482 And he told me I was a liar, that it never happened. 587 00:35:27,827 --> 00:35:33,000 Every time I went home and he was there for a family function, 588 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,275 I avoided him like the plague. 589 00:35:36,103 --> 00:35:37,413 And he knew why. 590 00:35:39,103 --> 00:35:41,413 And then he started to become more and more ill. 591 00:35:41,413 --> 00:35:43,551 Course of time when I was away at college 592 00:35:43,551 --> 00:35:45,344 and every time I would go back, 593 00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:46,896 his schizophrenia was worse. 594 00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:49,275 And it became, he was no longer cool. 595 00:35:49,275 --> 00:35:53,379 He was fat and his wife had left him 596 00:35:53,827 --> 00:35:55,517 and Jimmy had left. 597 00:35:55,517 --> 00:35:58,172 The two of them had both run away to California. 598 00:35:58,655 --> 00:36:00,137 I never saw them again. 599 00:36:01,241 --> 00:36:04,448 Jim's breakdowns came when the divorce was happening. 600 00:36:04,448 --> 00:36:08,793 And so he's becoming very weird and saying weird things 601 00:36:08,793 --> 00:36:12,068 and doing stupid things like running around The Broadmoor naked. 602 00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:22,655 I remember him coming into the house, irritated, 603 00:36:22,655 --> 00:36:24,000 yelling and screaming at mother 604 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,793 for being, you know, in his terms, a bad woman. 605 00:36:28,793 --> 00:36:33,551 And looking at me and says, "Don't you see this hole right here in my chest?" 606 00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:35,206 I said, "No, Jim, I don't. 607 00:36:35,206 --> 00:36:37,862 I don't see any hole in your chest." 608 00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,172 "I've been shot. I've been shot." 609 00:36:39,172 --> 00:36:40,413 I said, "Oh, well. 610 00:36:41,137 --> 00:36:42,655 I don't see it. I'm sorry." 611 00:36:44,275 --> 00:36:51,172 Though I just brushed it off as another illusion of his mental illness. 612 00:36:51,172 --> 00:36:55,206 Call it schizophrenia, call it whatever but he just had illusions. 613 00:36:55,896 --> 00:36:58,586 Then just went about my life. 614 00:36:58,586 --> 00:37:01,793 Next day, he was passed away. He's dead. He had left us. 615 00:37:04,379 --> 00:37:05,310 Do you miss him? 616 00:37:05,931 --> 00:37:07,620 Jim? No. 617 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:10,655 He was nasty, mean. He was a bad influence all my life. 618 00:37:11,448 --> 00:37:13,172 He was totally disruptive. 619 00:37:13,862 --> 00:37:14,931 I-- No. 620 00:37:30,689 --> 00:37:33,896 I remember the night I really felt like I forgave him. 621 00:37:35,137 --> 00:37:37,413 I got a phone call that he had died 622 00:37:39,206 --> 00:37:40,793 from, I think my father. 623 00:37:42,275 --> 00:37:44,000 And I remember, at that moment, 624 00:37:44,551 --> 00:37:47,034 thinking, "That poor soul. 625 00:37:48,241 --> 00:37:50,448 That tortured, tortured soul." 626 00:37:55,724 --> 00:37:58,655 Yeah, I think Jimmy probably was one of the worst. 627 00:37:58,655 --> 00:38:04,551 Peter and Jimmy, I think, were stricken with the worst violent tendencies. 628 00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:07,000 And unruly tendencies. 629 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000 Peter was just tearing up the house. 630 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000 My mother would call me first, for whatever reason. 631 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,862 "Can you please come help me to get rid of Peter or take him to the hospital?" 632 00:38:26,896 --> 00:38:29,551 "This 18-year-old single, Caucasian unemployed male 633 00:38:29,551 --> 00:38:32,275 was admitted on January 25th, 1979. 634 00:38:32,275 --> 00:38:35,758 He had been behaving in a bizarre, hyperactive manner, 635 00:38:35,758 --> 00:38:38,344 which was intolerable to his family. 636 00:38:38,344 --> 00:38:41,275 Upon admission, he was irrational and hyperactive. 637 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,103 His behavior was irritating to others 638 00:38:43,103 --> 00:38:45,344 because of the intrusive, demanding manner. 639 00:38:45,344 --> 00:38:47,965 During formal staffing, he would stand up, walk around the room, 640 00:38:47,965 --> 00:38:50,448 pointing his finger and banging on the table. 641 00:38:50,448 --> 00:38:53,413 He'd also mimic the interviewer and the others in the room 642 00:38:53,413 --> 00:38:56,655 as well as smile and laugh inappropriately." 643 00:38:56,655 --> 00:38:59,448 They would evaluate him and then he would be better 644 00:38:59,448 --> 00:39:01,965 and he would come back, so it became that revolving door. 645 00:39:01,965 --> 00:39:03,896 They would give him some medicines 646 00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,758 and he would get better, come back home. 647 00:39:06,758 --> 00:39:09,000 "Oh, I'm fine. I don't need to take those medicines." 648 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,310 As soon as he'd get off the medicines, he'd get worse. 649 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 March, 1980. 650 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000 "Upon admission, Peter was orientated, 651 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,137 and was able to recall names of nursing staff. 652 00:39:20,137 --> 00:39:22,344 However, he was delusional and grandiose 653 00:39:22,344 --> 00:39:25,344 with a great deal of religiosity and agitation. 654 00:39:25,344 --> 00:39:27,517 It was necessary to seclude and restrain him 655 00:39:27,517 --> 00:39:29,586 soon after admission because of his behavior. 656 00:39:30,172 --> 00:39:32,241 Agitation, a psychotic state. 657 00:39:32,241 --> 00:39:34,965 He was felt to be somewhat homicidal." 658 00:39:36,931 --> 00:39:39,620 Peter at times, was in denial about being ill. 659 00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:43,241 I've heard that he would rather punch out his nurse than take his meds. 660 00:39:44,344 --> 00:39:47,172 November 18th, 1985. 661 00:39:47,172 --> 00:39:52,413 "Peter Eugene Galvin is a 25-year-old white single, unemployed Catholic male, 662 00:39:52,896 --> 00:39:54,206 eighth admission. 663 00:39:54,206 --> 00:39:57,448 Charges of second-degree assault on a police officer. 664 00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:04,862 Mr. Galvin was previously found praying in downtown Colorado Springs 665 00:40:04,862 --> 00:40:07,068 when the police approached him. 666 00:40:07,068 --> 00:40:10,137 He became upset and began to get hostile with a police officer. 667 00:40:10,137 --> 00:40:14,586 Be highly agitated and experiencing paranoid ideation. 668 00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:18,000 He was then sent to Colorado State Hospital for further evaluation." 669 00:40:28,827 --> 00:40:32,931 โ™ช The hills are alive 670 00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:39,000 โ™ช With the sound of music 671 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,413 โ™ช The songs have been sung 672 00:40:43,413 --> 00:40:48,586 โ™ช For a thousand years 673 00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:53,275 โ™ช The hills are alive 674 00:40:53,275 --> 00:40:59,413 โ™ช With the sound of music 675 00:41:01,689 --> 00:41:02,793 What is your name? 676 00:41:03,448 --> 00:41:05,965 Peter Eugene Galvin. 677 00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:09,482 Son of Dr. D. W Galvin. 678 00:41:11,965 --> 00:41:16,137 Do you feel that you've got a mental illness? 679 00:41:16,137 --> 00:41:17,275 No. 680 00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:22,275 I'm all healed up with all the doctors and nurses. 681 00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:25,206 I'm all healed up. 682 00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:32,000 And I'm St. Peter who works at the state hospital. 56017

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