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Police search for mass murderer
suspected of killing 21 prostitutes.

Police are looking for a man
nicknamed the Green River Killer.

We knew we had
to a serial killer.

At the end of the 80s,
There was a new class of serial killers.

It was in March that the researchers
they began to link the cases...

"HAPPY FACE" MURDERS?

…of the killer with the happy face.

These were more sophisticated killers.

They contacted the media.

The man who is made
call the BTK killer.

The letters where authorship is claimed
they were sent by a man

who referred to himself as BTK.

We studied men, women and children
who could have been killed.

They don't kill for the same reasons

that the first serial killers
what studied.

Behavioral science.

It was known that we made profiles.

They filled us with cases.

They are coming
about 300 profiling requests a year.

They arrive faster
than we can handle.

We were limited
We didn't have many profilers.

I think the numbers are out of control.

We reject many.

Disappearances, rapes and murders.

A serial strangler of children.

They murdered three other young women.

The cases were not investigated.
They just filed them.

It's very dangerous.
These are people who are killing.

We should do a better job.

SCIENCE DEPARTMENT
OF CONDUCT

At the end of the 80s,

the team noticed

that, to a certain extent,
They had created profiles for themselves.

Dr. Burgess wanted to move forward
in profiling

so that it was
an applicable tool for the police.

Co-author, A Killer By Design

European attendees ask for information.

We wanted to train the police
to use this tool.

We had to publish it.

With input from Ann,
I see there is a post

that would be used within the police circle.

FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AGENCY

"Masked rapist"

I hoped it would make a difference.

Obsessions, fantasies.

I wouldn't let myself fall
in a possible trap.

Longing for something more difficult.

Organized and disorganized.

Two types of personalities.

Someone loves someone so much.
It is almost impossible to prevent it.

Birth order

Substance Use

Social Competence

We try to break down the whole process
studying those people.

The classification according to what they did,

they are likely to live alone,
near the scene.

You deal with a guy
who is not the introverted loner.

Many of them are
in a brilliant and very superior group.

Sexual Homicide
PATTERNS AND MOTIFS

The material was published in a book
academic called Sexual Homicide.

For me and the team,
It was something huge. A breakthrough.

We gave courses all over the country,
information that emerged

of our work so far.

The program began to expand.

There are now 29 known victims
of the Green River Killer.

The local police asked him for help
to a special unit of the FBI.

The FBI was notorious for being one-sided.
We don't give anything.

Louisiana Detective, Retired

The Behavioral Sciences Unit arrived
and suddenly,

Not only did they gather information,

but they came back
to help solve problems.

We use the Unit
of Behavioral Sciences

that the FBI established
in Quantico, Virginia.

It's a team effort, but profiling
It is key for the police.

Somonauk Sheriff, Retired

The information helped the police
to investigate these crimes

and catch the murderers.

Authorities arrested Dennis Rader,
of 59, for the BTK murders.

The arrest of one of the murderers
most prolific in the country.

Keith Jesperson wants to do
a full confession of his crimes

like the Happy Face Killer.

The Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway,
He confessed that he killed 48 women.

I think there is no doubt
that there would have been more.

McDuff arrested in Missouri

Good job everyone.

arrested

For the first time, we had a profiler
working in almost all states.

And we solved more cases than ever.

With the help of Ann Burgess,

we could play chess a little better,

and maybe we catch the murderer
a couple of victims before

than we would have done
in the past.

Robert Ressler has made his career
tracking and apprehending

to serial killers
most violent in the country.

He was an advisor on the book

used for the movie
The silence of the inocents.

I wanted to ask you about the movie.

Did you like it?

I thought it was an incredible movie...

In the movie,
Douglas was played by Scott Glenn.

- Good day.
- Hello, Mr. Crawford.

JOHN DOUGLAS AND MARK OLSHAKER
OBSESSION

Douglas and Ressler wrote books,

they were advisors for TV shows

and shared their story
as possible.

To get the job done effectively…

The inspired program
in Journey into Darkness.

It was interesting talking to Ann.
of why her story remained hidden.

She did not want to adopt the cultural mystique
like many other agents.

It was kept hidden...

Clinical and Forensic Psychologist

…partly because of his style
of not promoting yourself.

Dr. Burgess has been
in this work with the UCC.

And she begins to rethink

How can she best continue her efforts?
to be at the service of the victims.

Most agents
Those I worked with retired.

I wanted to move forward. I was ready.

It seemed like the right thing to do.

The turkeys arrived.

They must eat.

I felt it was time,

but I didn't know what I was going to do next.

I had my own career in nursing,
so all of that was active.

As an academic,

I had to be in new areas, write
requests for funds, be published.

She expressed what she felt:

"I want to step back, breathe,
Examine my surroundings and see…

Homicide Investigator

…how else
I can use this job."

One day, a defense attorney called me
And i ask myself

if you had heard of this case
outside of Los Angeles, and it wasn't like that.

So he told me to go
to a local store

for a copy of People magazine.

And I said, "Will this be
my reading material for the cases?"

MURDER
IN BEVERLY HILLS

Lyle and Erik Menendez
accused of killing their parents

August 21, 1989

I heard of few murders...

Beverly Hills Police Chief

…wilder than this.

There are no signs of break-in or robbery.

Only the executive bodies

Jose Menendez and his wife Kitty,
in the family TV room.

Jose Menendez was shot five times.

A fatal brain injury
from behind the head.

His wife, Kitty, was unrecognizable.

Four shots to the head and face,
six in arms, chest, hips, legs.

His sons Erik and Lyle
they said they found the bodies,

but new evidence,
from the records of the family psychologist

even a script about a rich kid
who kills her parents,

they indicate that it was the brothers.

They killed their wealthy parents.

Yesterday they were read the charges
to Lyle and Erik Menendez.

They murdered their parents
to inherit 14 million.

A Lost Paradise
in Beverly Hills

It was a high profile case
and had never had a defense case.

It made no sense for the prosecution to say
that it was for money.

his children did it for the money

There had to be something more,

so I agreed to go,
at least to meet them.

THE
ANGELS

My meeting with Erik was my first time
in a room with a murderer.

He saw someone who killed his parents.

He was nice.

We could talk about sports,
tennis and everything,

except from crime.

I needed to know exactly what happened.
and also understand why they did it.

He asked me
How could I talk about that?

And that's when I decided to use the drawings

because that would give him something concrete
What to focus on.

You wouldn't have to look directly at me
to talk about the situation.

We spent a whole day making the drawings.

This is the first
Which gave me an idea of why.

The father looks very big
compared to this little Erik.

Erik wanted to go to college.

And the father said, "No. You will come home."

I LOVE YOU
AT HOME

"I want you to sleep at home
during the week".

He gave me an idea
of how controlling the father was.

That was the beginning of the week
that got worse.

Something happened that set everything in motion

and they had no choice
than shoot their parents.

DAD

Based on the father,
a very dominant person,

I felt there was an abuse problem.

It could have been psychological.
It could have been physical.

There are many drawings

with father and son
in Erik's room.

It seemed like a very unusual place to me.

I used it as a way of saying:

"What other things could you tell me
What happened in the room?"

You could tell how difficult it was for him.
say it.

DAD

Then I knew there was sexual abuse,
which in itself is very complicated,

but it was also incest.

He was kind of stoic about it. Happened.

The two brothers were very close,
They took great care of each other.

Erik told his older brother
about sexual assault.

IT STILL HAPPENS. Sexual Things

He told me that he first abused Lyle,

but that his father preferred
to small children.

That's why Erik became
on the next victim.

HOW DID YOU KNOW?

The mother did not protect her children.

ALWAYS
I knew it.

I HATE YOU

The abuse had been exposed.

I WON'T LET YOU TOUCH AGAIN
to my brother

Lyle confronted his father.

The father was an executive
of the music industry.

An incest secret that came to light
It would have ruined Jose. Definitely.

DAD

I WARNED YOU NOT TO TELL LYLE

The father was threatening them.

NOW HE'S GOING TO TELL YOU
TO ALL

AND I CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN

WILL NOT TELL YOU
to nobody.

I SWEAR TO YOU
that he won't TELL anyone

YOU THREATENED DAD!

You could see them talking about fear
what they felt...

HE GOES

TO KILL US.

...and they felt that their parents
They were going to kill them.

IT'S OVER.

WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING.

PLEASE, LYLE,
TELL ME WHAT TO DO. I'M AFRAID.

I DON'T WANT TO DIE.
I'M TIRED. I CAN NOT GO

They were desperate,
They felt it was imminent,

that something was going to happen to them.

They were to perform on Sunday night.

SUNDAY
7:45 P.M.

DAD

MOM

They killed their parents.

No matter the circumstances,

that is wrong,

but they abused them.

I understand what they had to endure.

So I decided to testify for the defense.

People always wonder

how ann got started
for defense

when he moved on to court cases.

Immediately,
she was challenged by other agents.

Many said:

"Why do you defend the bad guys?"

John Douglas told him:
"You're making the wrong decision."

Agents always testify
for the prosecution.

When she knew that she would be on the defense

and the case she was in,
She would say he wasn't happy.

The Menendez case
It could ruin his reputation.

They could say: "This woman
that she always supported the good

she lost her way."

For me, it was important
bring the truth to light

about trauma and abuse.

A colleague of hers came up and said:
"You can't defend these guys.

If you do, other guys
they could start talking

of his sexual abuse as well.

And she said, “Yeah, that's the point.
This is the right thing to do."

JULY

LOS ANGELES MUNICIPAL COURT
VAN NUYS DIVISION

A murder trial began today
in California.

The accused: two brothers.
The victims: their parents.

Your defense: self-defense.

Legally, neither Lyle nor Erik
they can be declared innocent.

They admit that they were killed.

His motives were questioned at trial.

Juries would decide if they were motivated
out of fear for their lives or greed.

LOS ANGELES

If it is involuntary manslaughter
They could be released after serving their sentence.

If it's first degree murder,
It would mean the death penalty.

At the people's trial
against Erik Menendez,

for the defense to call the witness.

Thank you, your honor.
The defense calls Dr. Burgess.

Do you solemnly swear
that the testimony will be the truth,

all the truth
and nothing but the truth?

- I swear.
- Go up to the stand and…

I knew it would be a difficult battle.

It was not an easy case.

Ann Wolbert Burgess.

Convicts can allege abused wife

There have been defenses based on abuse
and the fear of the victims,

but they had only been used with handcuffs
who killed their husbands.

Defense of battered wife
gains acceptance

It had never been used
in a male victim.

She knew it was unlikely.

After your 50 hours
from interview with Erik Menendez,

did you formulate an opinion
about whether he was sexually abused as a child?

- Yeah.
-And what is his opinion?

And my opinion is yes.

The literature suggests that it is more difficult,

especially for a teenager,
admit same-sex abuse.

Yes, it is much more difficult
for a teenager. Yeah.

It seems to be related to mythology
of male sexuality.

It is believed that men,
no matter the age,

are able to manage,
and maybe even enjoy,

any type of sexual activity
and that they should not complain.

About that week before the shooting,

Did you determine critical factors
that contributed to it happening

the shooting in this case?

Yeah.

Erik's father insisted
for him to continue living at home.

Erik thinks that means
that sexual abuse will continue.

Erik revealed his sexual abuse to Lyle.

Lyle's confrontation with his father,

that prompted the father's threat
to protect the secret at all costs.

The father always said that he could

eliminate the family, get a new one
and start again.

By removing them,
He wasn't talking about killing them, right?

I don't think that was ever made clear.

How the Menendez trial became available
live on Court TV,

millions of Americans watched it.

a live drama
as fascinating as a soap opera.

According to expert witnesses,
the brothers were traumatized

for years of alleged abuse.

That changed the gray matter in their heads.

I don't love going to court

because the only thing they want
is to discredit you.

The cross-examination
can be ruthless.

The prosecutor, Pam Bozanich
she hinted that the theory

of the brain change was so believable

like research
from Dr. Frankenstein.

Dr. Burgess,
Could you tell them what suggestion is?

Suggestion is a concept

which says that very young children,
questioned by therapists,

somehow, they conduct their interviews
to suggest to the child an answer.

Dr. Burgess,
Do you know what "psychological gobbledygook" is?

My reaction to that was, “He doesn’t understand.

"He will never understand."

I really felt like they were dropping bombs,

not only from the prosecutor,
but certainly from the public arena.

That was hard.

"Abuse excuse" is unacceptable

There is no evidence
that supports the excuse of abuse.

They only have doctors
who listen to his story

and they say: "We believe them."

How did they manipulate the jury
in this case?

It is self-defense.

I support the syndrome
of abused women,

in real cases
where there is no way to leave.

But when applied to young men,
wealthy and mobile,

like the Menendez brothers,
poses serious dangers

to the freedom of Americans.

That would destroy me.

My dad had been abusing me.

- Like: "My father raped me."
- I never believed any of the tears.

I think you can see it here
a couple of spoiled brats.

Can you tell the court
who murdered his parents?

LYLE RETRACTS
OF HIS AND ERIK'S CONFESSION

Our other two brothers,
Danny Menendez and Jose Menendez Jr.

THEY WERE ACCUSED
OF THE MURDER OF HIS PARENTS

Lyle and Erik Menéndez told
horrible stories of parental abuse.

That makes them victims
or calculating liars.

The public wanted to see
to the Menendez brothers

like cold-blooded murderers.

Despite media resistance,

Dr. Burgess,
when entering the room and talking about the abuse,

she had opened a door.

It's okay for a man to talk about rape.

And as she did throughout his career,

the trauma narrative
began to change.

More abused men seek help

It is a very interesting trial
and I want them to be absolved.

If they are convicted,

I would like to know
What is your version of the story.

Men are raped too

I had a lot of support from other victims.

People who had never talked about anything.

And he gave this segment
of our population

a voice that I felt good about.

Maybe Erik and Lyle Menendez
They seem manipulative.

They can decide if they are credible
and if his story touches heartstrings.

They can reach their own verdict.

JANUARY 1994

The court received a note
this morning of…

jury.

Says:

"We regret to inform the court
that we did not reach a unanimous decision

on any of the three charges."

Split Jury Decision
Count 1

We had a hung jury.
That pleased me.

At least we generated enough doubt
to the jury.

I think they grew up in an abusive home.

LYLE MENENDEZ JURY

I don't think Jose and Kitty

They planned to kill them that night.

But I do think Lyle and Erik believe that.

And that's the difference.

Lawyer says jury hung
It's better than an unfair verdict

His testimony had a great impact
in the Menendez case.

When analyzing it, the media
They ruled out any possibility

that these brothers would be acquitted.

RICH AND MURDERERS?

But it wasn't over.

To appeal or not to appeal is the question

I did not testify in the second trial

because the judge
did not allow abuse experts.

Well, that surprised me.

It's been hell.
The defense theory...

Defense Attorney

…which was a theory
of imperfect self-defense.

He refused to instruct him.

The jury had not been able to hear
all the truth.

The impact was enormous.

Yesterday, a Los Angeles jury
found the brothers guilty

first degree murder
for killing his parents.

Perpetual without conditional.

LIFE CHAIN WITHOUT PAROLE

I felt bad for them.

And I still feel that it perpetuates
without parole is wrong.

It's not something they would do again.
They were not serial killers.

What we did was horrible.

I wish I could go back.

We will spend our lives in prison.

But if they don't put us in the same prison,

It is very likely that I will not see him again.

AND…

that's me...

There are things you can't stand
and there are others that do.

When they took everything from you,

It would be the last thing you could bear.

I think when you take away from someone
any kind of hope,

I think that is wrong.

We hear the word "Menendez"
more than other cases.

I found it interesting that mom
would work on such a public case.

There was always a part of her that wanted

maintain privacy and be reserved.

But it was a situation in which she saw
things differently

to others.

Dr. Burgess wasn't interested.
Be the spokesperson for your work.

Working in trials changed that.

His conclusion with the Menendez case

was that she could make people
think differently about sexual trauma.

Change the way people
I thought about the victims.

Ann, professor of psychiatric nursing
at the University of Pennsylvania.

She realized that if she really wanted
defend the victims,

she had to come out of the shadows.

In abused women
We note that it depends on the type of violence.

Becoming a public person

and use that as a platform
to take advantage of your work,

his voice and the voices of the victims.

I felt like I had a chance.
to influence the system.

I felt that was very important.

No matter what I had to endure,
it was worth it.

I decided to accept cases in which I felt
that could make a difference.

I flew to Boston to meet
with Dr. Burgess.

I didn't know much about her.

And at that moment, no one was listening.

No one wanted to know
about America's dad.

Survivor and Defender

You couldn't take down Bill Cosby.

Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Cosby.

Dentists tell you
Don't pick your teeth.

Then you sit in his chair.

Jell-O Pudding Pops are a hit
in homemade car racing.

It is?

- Yeah.
- Minor adjustments.

THE BILL COSBY SHOW

Bill Cosby has entertained millions
while he inspired everyone.

Presentation of the Medal of Freedom

I had seen his television shows.

Everyone knew Bill Cosby.

I was nobody and he was someone.

People would believe him.
Not to the victim of sexual assault.

Whether they believe you will really determine

how the survivor will ultimately heal.

I don't know if this is true.
You don't know either.

It is difficult to decide if we give voice
to accusations like this.

Cosby's lawyer said
that the case was "nonsense",

and called her a scammer
to his accuser, Andrea Constand.

The prosecutor decided not to charge
to Mr. Cosby.

he doesn't find enough credible evidence.

Mr. Cosby wants to move on
with his life

Of the victims who testify,
only one or two percent will see justice.

The criminal case was denied.

So a civil case
It was my only chance for justice.

All probabilities
They were against me.

And that's how I met
to Dr. Burgess.

Cases without evidence are very difficult.

He was glad they called me.

We did not have
forensic rape evidence.

In that sense, it was just his word.

There was a lot of skepticism.

It was very important to get the details.

She had a job.

She was trying to get things out of my memory.

Explain in your own words
what happened.

I was the Director of Operations
Basketball at Temple University.

I knew who Bill Cosby was.

I knew it was a man
very important on campus.

I had no reason
to fear Bill Cosby.

After having a friendship with him
for almost 18 months,

he invited me to his house to talk
about a career change.

He told me: "You seem very stressed."

And I said, "Yes, I haven't slept much."

she rose from nothing,
she excused herself to get up from the table,

she went down the stairs

and I had three blue pills
in the hand.

And she said, "Take them. They'll help you calm down."

After half an hour,

I started watching two Bill Cosbys
on the same table.

And he said:
"Maybe you just need to lie down.

You just need to sleep."

Those are the last words I remember.

She didn't remember anything else.

This wasn't going to be easy.

We were missing many pieces.

So I thought:
"Is there anything we can recover?"

That's the kind of questions you ask yourself.

and you try to make him remember what he can.

Even if you don't remember it,
It doesn't mean it doesn't register.

You should move somewhere else.
to understand memory

because it registers, you know?

Register
even if you are unconscious.

The body keeps score.

I remember I fainted, I woke up.

I could feel that I had gotten off
the closure of the pants.

she was totally paralyzed.
I couldn't scream.

It was the most horrible thing in the world.

I had seen this technique used before,
especially in children.

They gave them drugs because they could say:

"Well, you dreamed it. This didn't happen."

I did an analysis to document
the trauma he had.

And back it up with some kind
of scientific evidence.

ENGRAVE

What were you like before it happened?
How often do you think about this?

Do you have anxiety? Are you irritable?

How do you sleep?

He thought, "I'll get over it,"

but then it got worse and worse.

she couldn't stay at work.

She had to return to her parents.

She broke up with her partner.

Chronic Posttraumatic Stress Disorder

By then, she already had chronic PTSD.

By asking me 300 questions
about how I sleep, eat, live, love,

I could understand
what that night had done to me.

The fact that you heard me say
what happened to me

and recognize that I survived a trauma
He was very critical.

She believed me.

IN THE DISTRICT COURT
FROM THE UNITED STATES

FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA

Demanding
against Accused

AND NOW, June 24, 2005…

In 2006, Bill Cosby paid him $3.4 million
to Andrea to reach an agreement.

I don't think there is a financial amount
that a person can receive

to improve everything automatically.

I was happy to move on.
because I really wanted that

and I really wanted to leave it behind.

This case,

For me, it was a way to return
to where we had started.

And we are talking about almost 30 years

since Lynda Holmstrom and I
We started the study on rape.

When she started doing her work,

there was no culture of accountability
to men

for his bad actions against women.

This girl is not the rape victim,
but according to the judge,

her way of dressing illustrates another reason
why boys rape girls.

There were many changes for women.

Rape Crisis Center,
women at work.

women
THEY RECOVER THE NIGHT

There was a cultural change.

But it wasn't enough.

DISARMAMENT
TO THE RAPIST

Sometimes you think you haven't moved forward,

but that's why it's important
keep fighting.

Time is over!

NEWS THIS MORNING

COMPLIMENTS ARE HARASSMENT - DOWN TRUMP
ENOUGH OF INTOLERANCE

Dr. Burgess's work is part
of what led to the Me Too movement.

IT
I WILL COUNT

The story
It doesn't revolve around Dr. Burgess,

but she is a big part of that story.

survivors march

I'm glad you could see
some of the fruits of their labor.

WE ARE THE Uprising
FEMINIST

This is what Dr. Burgess fought for.
all this time.

The culture was ready
to believe in the victims.

- Me too!
- Me too!

- Me too.
- Me too.

Women who had been traumatized
and victimized years ago

They started to talk.

Happened to me too.

Me too.

It happened to me too.

Their stories flooded the networks

and they left an image
how many people suffer sexual abuse

and harassment every day.

- No.
- No.

The Me Too movement gave women
the opportunity to have control,

to say: "We will not tolerate this.

WAR FOR RIGHTS
OF THE WOMAN!

"DOGMA LIVES STRONG
INSIDE YOU".

I was very proud of the women.
for denouncing and demanding justice.

It was incredible.

And then, because of the Me Too movement,

There is one more part of the Cosby case.

A barrage of accusations from women

who they say they were
sexually abused by Cosby.

I couldn't believe it. I had taken drugs.

I woke up in a bed
with Mr. Cosby naked.

Mr. Cosby is accused
of aggravated indecent assault.

When the Me Too thing happened,
that was what it took.

Mr. Cosby, did you drug that woman?

I never thought she would have the chance
to face my abuser in court.

Thirteen years later
of an alleged sexual assault,

Andrea Constand walked into a full room
to tell her story publicly.

she came in and testified wonderfully.

There was a verdict.

The comedian, now 80,
He was found guilty of the charges.

It was a miracle

see the judicial system
working for survivors.

The culture had changed a lot.

In 1970, I doubt we would get
a conviction against Bill Cosby.

Andrea's case was very important

to identify a person
high profile and deliver justice.

There are a handful of people

who played an important role
in my "survival",

and Dr. Burgess is one of them.

CURRENTLY

I try to think how it all started.

I vividly remember that in the studio
of the serial killer that used to be...

What mom has done is so useful
that we would like her work to continue.

I think I would be more than happy
If someone followed in her footsteps.

The first topics are
the most prominent in their manifestos.

I am studying with my granddaughter
the manifestos of the mass shooters.

Machine learning finds relationships
between words, patterns and phrases.

We didn't have enough data.

She said, "Send me data." He likes that.

That could be interesting.

I think there is a parallel universe
in some place

where to Dr. Burgess
She was never invited to speak at the FBI,

and it's a scary world.

Profiling, victimology,
behavioral psychology,

She had a formative role.
in all these areas

and she changed the way the fbi
It functioned as an organization.

While other people saw madness,

she saw from the beginning
that there were patterns.

Once you kill another human being,
you will never be the same again...

I fed on that fear.

It was a source of fuel for me.

I lived like a normal person.

She said: "We have important data."

The caregivers resolved
family disagreements with:

Suddenly that becomes something
to which we can make sense.

"Murderer Profiles"

There was no action plan
and she created it.

We would like to see the cases
that have been profiled to see if…

She had to overcome prejudice
of the male agents.

But she would always have the last word
on criminal conduct

because she knew more than anyone there.

The impact of victimization
in the family and community.

Make things better for victims,

for the survivors
in the legal system.

And he's spent his entire career
breaking down barriers.

Simonis, without hesitation, pleaded guilty
of all charges.

John Joubert was arrested tonight
by the special force.

The FBI charges Brian Dugan, 28,

kidnapping and murder
by Melissa Ackerman.

It's time for people to recognize

that there is no aspect
of modern criminal psychology

that has not really been influenced
for the work of Dr. Burgess.

And it's important for people to know that.

How many cases does she work on?

In many. Don't know.

Five? Ten?

More than a dozen. Yeah.

At 87, Dr. Burgess teaches a course
at Boston University.

She'll give you an idea of what we're trying to do.
on campus from academic nursing.

She directs a study on indigenous women
missing and murdered.

They murdered many native women and…

Many. Yeah.

We have a database
of more than 3000 people.

Investigate unsolved cases
that the authorities forgot.

It's something different
because we listen to a real person

that he lost someone and that...
It is an unsolved case.

And continue to guide the next generation.

And the data?

Because we have to talk about writing

or at least have the schematic
for an article.

There is always work.

There is no time to celebrate.
We have to continue.

Subtitles: Tamara Aranco