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(audience applauding)
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Steve Martin:
And the Oscar goes to...
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Dustin Lance Black for "Milk."
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(audience cheering)
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I wanna, I wanna thank my mom,
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uh, who has always loved me
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for who I am even when
there was pressure not to.
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But most of all,
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if Harvey had not been taken
from us 30 years ago,
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I think he'd want me to say
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to all of the gay and lesbian
kids out there tonight
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who have been told
that they are less than
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by their churches,
or by the government,
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or by their families
that you are beautiful,
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wonderful creatures of value.
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And that, no matter
what anyone tells you,
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God does love you
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and that very soon,
I promise you,
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you will have equal rights,
federally,
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across this great
nation of ours.
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(applause, cheering)
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Thank you. Thank you.
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And thank you, God,
for giving us Harvey Milk.
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The day after the Oscars,
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I was sitting with my mom
in our living room
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and I remember
she just started to ask
what's gonna happen now.
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And I, I said,
"Well, you know, I'm not sure."
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And she said, "Mm... really?
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"Because you made
a pretty big promise
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up on that Academy Awards
stage last night."
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I said, "That's true. I did."
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And my mom said,
"I raised you to know
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"that a promise
is a sacred thing.
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So, what are you gonna do?"
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(light music playing)
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โช โช
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My mom was born
on February 28, 1948.
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And she was the seventh
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of what would eventually
be nine children to Cokie.
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And then, Cokie,
my grandmother,
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she came from very
difficult circumstances.
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She became an orphan
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and ended up having
to go work for a relative
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and that relative treated her
more like a servant.
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And she met a young man
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who was in his teens
named Victor.
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They got married
and they start having children.
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They start building a family,
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living in, like,
Providence, Louisiana,
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which then,
and still even today,
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is considered the poorest city
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in the United States of America
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with the added honor of having
the largest income disparity
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because it was deeply racist.
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Deborah Westfall:
Lake Providence was
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my main introduction
to segregation.
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I remember, you know,
"whites only" signs.
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And there was a separate
entrance to the movie theater.
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Everything was
very, very segregated.
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But yet, my family
worked on a farm
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and they worked alongside
Black and white.
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Dustin Lance Black:
And Cokie and Victor,
because they were so young,
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and uneducated, and broke,
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they lived in what was called
a paper brick home.
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I mean, it was a shack.
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And that's what
my mom was born into.
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Nannette Radovich:
We lived in a small house
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with a porch and maybe,
I don't know, two bedrooms?
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It was very, very poor.
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Lynn Mosley:
The more children you had,
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the more money you could make
hoein' and pickin' cotton.
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They'd tell me stories about
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when she was ready
to have a baby,
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they took all the kids out to
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a little farm shack
and, you know,
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they wasn't allowed
to come in the house
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till after the baby was born.
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Dustin:
Her full name on her
birth certificate was Roseanna
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and this name would undergo
so many transitions
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throughout my mom's life.
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It would eventually become,
to some, Rose,
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which my mom didn't like.
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As she grew older,
it would become Anna.
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And it would eventually,
when she became an adult,
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she said, "I'm Anne
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and you'll have
to deal with me."
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Reporter:
This is 1949's war
against infantile paralysis
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as seen
in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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This year,
the enemy, poliomyelitis
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struck with such
impact and fury
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that it shook
the entire nation.
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There has been
no escape, no immunity.
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Dustin:
Polio was this new epidemic
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starting in the early
20th century
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and it would come in waves.
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And these waves
would create terror
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because it really
lived in water,
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pools of water, dark water.
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And who plays in that water,
who drinks that water?
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The children.
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It was hitting children
incredibly hard.
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You would get a certain
percentage of people
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who would get quite ill
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and then you
would get that 1%
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who it would start to eat away
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at their neuromuscular system
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to the point that they
would lose the ability
to move their limbs
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and eventually,
to even breathe.
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And there was
no treatment, no cure.
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And my mother
was one of the first signs
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that there was another wave
of this epidemic
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that was going
to attack the South.
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Don Whitehead:
The only thing that
I really remember
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about the day
that Anne got polio,
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she was lying on the couch
that evening
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and I was sitting
on one end of the couch.
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And then she started
complaining about my movement
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causin' her some discomfort.
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And I thought that she
was just bein' ornery.
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But my mom made me
get off the couch.
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And that was it.
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Next day, she was just gone
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and I did not know
where she had gone.
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Dustin:
When Don was sent to bed,
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Anne kept complaining
about the pain
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and the discomfort
and eventually,
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she was starting to lose
the ability to move her toes.
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Cokie grabbed her up
and found a neighbor
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who actually had a vehicle
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and they had to drive
as fast as they could
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to the nearest hospital
and that was
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in Vicksburg, Mississippi.
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And when they went
into that hospital,
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those nurses and doctors
immediately saw what this was.
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Reporter:
To what figure, this,
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the worst polio
epidemic in history
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will take us, we do not know.
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Dustin:
My mom was in that hospital
in Vicksburg for years
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because it's not like
all the symptoms
just came on at once.
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You would degrade
and you would continue
to degrade.
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And the doctors would
do what they could,
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which was very little,
to try and stop it
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from getting worse.
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And then something
miraculous happened.
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Reporter:
Once the public health service
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authorizes its release,
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the polio vaccine can begin
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to protect American youngsters.
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Dale Morgan:
As soon as we was old enough,
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we had our polio vaccinations.
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At the time,
that was one of the big things.
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It was almost
like the coronavirus.
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Dustin:
My mom always joked
that Jonas Salk,
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if he had just worked
a little harder
and a little quicker,
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that vaccine would've been
available for her,
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but that vaccine came a couple
of years too late for my mom.
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It was on the horizon,
but it wasn't there yet.
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By the time the disease
had stopped eating away
at her body,
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my mom would be
immobilized,
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permanently,
from the chest down.
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But, as she grew older,
she realized,
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"Oh, I've got this
beautiful golden hair
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and these blue eyes."
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She had been
a March of Dimes girl
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on the posters and all that.
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And so, she really started
to learn how to flirt.
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She used her eyes
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and she did this her whole life.
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And she would just draw you in.
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And so, she became
the star of the ward.
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A lot of the other kids
were happy just to be able
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to get in a wheelchair again
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and my mom was like,
"Oh, no, no, no, no.
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I wanna be upright."
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So she started
practicing on crutches.
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And my mother,
we had one thing in common,
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we had a scar that ran
across our chin.
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And I have it here
from a bike wreck.
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My mom had it
from constantly falling.
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Falling, falling, falling
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and they'd stitch it
back together,
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say, "Come on,
just get in a wheelchair."
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And my mom said,
"I don't need a wheelchair,
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thank you very much."
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Which was my mom's way
of saying, "Fuck you."
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Nannette:
She was home some.
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I mean, mostly at holidays
she was home.
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So, I remember sitting
on the sofa with her.
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I remember my mother
massaging her
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because they would put her
on the dining room table
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and massage her legs
because they thought
that might help.
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But it didn't really help.
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She always seemed like
she was very strong
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and she would want
to do anything
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that she could do herself.
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Dale:
The things I always
remember about Roseann
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was when we would
go there to visit
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and her comin' out there
on them crutches
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with her polio.
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And I would
just feel sorry for her.
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But she always had
a smile on her face.
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She did not let
her handicap stop her.
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Dustin:
And in a way, she had
started to defy the odds.
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She was getting stronger.
She was falling less.
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And I think she was starting
to feel a sense of hope.
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But one of the things
that had begun
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happening to my mom
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was her spine had started
to bend and twist.
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It was starting to look
like a very severe S
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and she needed surgery
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where they inserted steel
rods along your spine.
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And I remember her saying how
she didn't know it was coming
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and she was wheeled
into that surgery room.
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And they put in these
metal rods into her back.
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And she just started
to bleed out.
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They were able
to sew her back up
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but she wasn't waking up.
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My mom went into a coma.
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She said there was a nurse
on that ward named Willie
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and Willie was
a older Black gentleman
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who had a bird that he took
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into the children's
ward with him.
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The bird swore in Creole.
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And when Willie saw her
lying there in the hospital
in a coma,
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it broke his heart.
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So he sat with her
and all she remembered
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was hearing the voice
of that bird cursing.
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And she woke up.
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At this point, it was clear
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the time had come for her
to be able to go home.
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From 2 years old
to 15 years old,
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after all of those years
in children's hospitals,
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now she was going
home for good.
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In a attempt to set
the expectations,
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a nurse sat down with my mom.
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She said, "These are the things
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"you will be able to do
and won't be able to do.
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"You don't need an education.
You don't need a husband.
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"And you cannot have children.
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"That is incredibly dangerous.
You will die.
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"Forget that stuff.
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"What's gonna work for you
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"is that the government
will help support you.
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"Go home.
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"Collect the check.
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And learn to accept this."
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But I imagine she just looked
her right in the eye and said,
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"Thank you very much."
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So, my mom,
with this checklist in mind,
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starts to try and prove
that nurse wrong.
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I mean, one of the most
striking moments
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is when she sewed
her own prom dress.
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She was determined to go
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and didn't care
that no one had asked her.
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Sewed a beautiful
light blue dress,
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tightened the corset,
expanded the bottom
of the dress
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so that she looked
just like everybody else.
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She also, in school,
started to excel
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academically, very quickly.
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And in fact, there's a letter
I find really moving
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that she wrote to her father,
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who she was
completely estranged from,
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saying, "Dad, guess what?
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"I got into college
with a scholarship.
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Not because of my disability,
because of my grades."
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And she went
to university in Louisiana
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and she started
to study medicine.
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My mom wanted to be a doctor.
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(cheery music playing)
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(indistinct chatter)
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When she was in college,
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she would flirt
with boys in person,
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but one of the things
she figured out was
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Vietnam was goin' on.
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And so, she would
do her hair perfectly,
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she would get
the little picture and
she would write notes
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to the soldiers in Vietnam,
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put her picture in.
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And she would get letters back.
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Deborah: In college,
she had been serious
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about a man
whose first name was Don.
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And his picture was
on the head of the bed
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and she was writing him letters
and puttin' perfume on 'em.
286
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She had
the big rollers in her hair
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and she had makeup
and I just,
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I just idolized her.
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Dustin:
When he came back from Vietnam,
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Don met my mom
291
00:13:44,865 --> 00:13:49,036
and he loved her
and accepted her.
292
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But Don's mom pulled
her son aside and said,
293
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"This young woman,
as dazzling as she may be,
294
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"will never be able
to give you the family
295
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that you've
always wanted."
296
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And Don ended it.
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His mother
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had convinced him that she
could not give him children
299
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because of her polio.
300
00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,226
And she was
absolutely heartbroken.
301
00:14:12,309 --> 00:14:14,436
Dustin:
And I can almost
tell you the day
302
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,398
because my mom's grades
go from A's and B's
303
00:14:17,481 --> 00:14:21,068
to some C's and D's and F's.
304
00:14:21,151 --> 00:14:23,737
For my mom, being able
to get married and have kids
305
00:14:23,821 --> 00:14:26,407
was the most impossible dream.
306
00:14:26,490 --> 00:14:29,952
And then... knock on the door
307
00:14:30,035 --> 00:14:32,746
and two of the most
gloriously put-together boys
308
00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:34,123
you've ever seen in your life,
309
00:14:34,206 --> 00:14:35,416
"Hello, ma'am, we are here
310
00:14:35,499 --> 00:14:37,710
from the Church
of Latter-day Saints."
311
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Two Mormon missionaries
and they preached to my mom,
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"Ma'am, we'd like to tell you
that one of the promises
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"that our heavenly father
has made is that when you
go to heaven,
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"your body will be
made perfect again.
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00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:54,852
And family is
forever and eternal."
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00:14:54,935 --> 00:14:59,273
This was the ultimate
dream for my mom.
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And they brought her to church
318
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and they introduced her
to another missionary.
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And his name was Raul Garrison.
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Deborah:
I remember her
bringing Raul here
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00:15:08,532 --> 00:15:12,328
to introduce him to my parents,
Josie and James Mosley
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00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:14,330
because my mother
was worried about it
323
00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:16,123
'cause this was
her baby sister.
324
00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:19,627
And my dad
immediately hated him.
325
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Hated him.
Because he saw through it.
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The Vietnam War was going on.
327
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And Raul had been
on his mission
328
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for the Mormon church
for two years
329
00:15:31,263 --> 00:15:35,142
and when that ended,
he was going to be drafted.
330
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Oh, but if he married
a handicapped woman,
331
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he could avoid the war.
332
00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:42,316
And my dad saw that
333
00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:46,654
and just immediately thought
he was taking advantage of her.
334
00:15:46,737 --> 00:15:49,782
Because here was someone
who was determined,
335
00:15:49,865 --> 00:15:52,534
since she was a little girl,
to be a doctor
336
00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:55,245
because of everything
she'd been through with polio.
337
00:15:55,329 --> 00:15:59,083
And then, all of a sudden,
everything is about Raul.
338
00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:02,461
She's dropped outta college
after three years.
339
00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:07,257
She just gave up her career
of being a doctor to be married
340
00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:08,634
and to have children.
341
00:16:08,717 --> 00:16:11,387
My mom heard all
of her siblings' concerns,
342
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:13,138
but my mom wanted love.
343
00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:14,473
My mom wanted children.
344
00:16:14,556 --> 00:16:17,059
My mom wanted this
promise of Mormonism,
345
00:16:17,142 --> 00:16:18,936
this brand-new shiny religion.
346
00:16:19,019 --> 00:16:23,440
And so, when she married
Raul in Garrison,
347
00:16:23,524 --> 00:16:25,943
most of the siblings
didn't come.
348
00:16:26,985 --> 00:16:29,697
But my mom still plowed ahead.
349
00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:32,700
And the next day, they packed up
and they left the South
350
00:16:32,783 --> 00:16:37,371
and ventured out to California,
an entire new world,
351
00:16:37,454 --> 00:16:38,914
with a man who she loved,
352
00:16:38,997 --> 00:16:42,626
but most of her family
did not trust.
353
00:16:44,962 --> 00:16:47,089
(light music playing)
354
00:16:58,434 --> 00:16:59,935
Now they're in Sacramento,
355
00:17:00,018 --> 00:17:02,438
Raul was struggling
to pay the bills.
356
00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:05,858
Holding onto a job
or getting a good-paying job
was tough.
357
00:17:05,941 --> 00:17:07,568
But that wasn't my mom's focus.
358
00:17:07,651 --> 00:17:10,738
She gave up getting a doctorate
to have this family.
359
00:17:10,821 --> 00:17:12,239
She wanted children badly.
360
00:17:12,322 --> 00:17:14,783
That was one of the things she
was told she would never have.
361
00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:16,076
She was suddenly Mormon.
362
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,579
The expectation is
you have lots of children.
363
00:17:18,662 --> 00:17:21,373
She was supposed
to have none, medically.
364
00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:22,791
And she gets pregnant.
365
00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:25,461
And on April 2, 1970,
366
00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:30,674
my mother gave birth
to Marcus Raul Garrison.
367
00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:32,384
And I can just see
in all the pictures
368
00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:35,804
how incredibly happy she was.
369
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,473
Because she now had a child
370
00:17:37,556 --> 00:17:39,266
and survived
the cesarean section
371
00:17:39,349 --> 00:17:41,018
'cause God knows
she couldn't push.
372
00:17:41,101 --> 00:17:44,313
But I think, with my mom,
it was never quite enough.
She wanted more.
373
00:17:44,396 --> 00:17:45,939
I think she wanted
more for herself.
374
00:17:46,023 --> 00:17:47,733
She wanted more
because she was a Mormon now
375
00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:49,067
and you were supposed to.
376
00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:50,652
So she tries again.
377
00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:54,156
But she had a cold
when she went into the hospital
378
00:17:54,239 --> 00:17:57,910
for the planned
cesarean section
in June of 1974.
379
00:17:57,993 --> 00:18:01,955
And they put her under
and her respiration stopped.
380
00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:05,250
Her heartbeat became irregular.
She was dying.
381
00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:06,794
The miracle of that
382
00:18:06,877 --> 00:18:10,964
would end up being that they
would be able to revive her
383
00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:13,592
and deliver this.
384
00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:17,012
And she says,
"You just opened your eyes
385
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,890
"and you made eye contact
with me immediately.
386
00:18:19,973 --> 00:18:21,767
"And I just knew
387
00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:26,522
you were gonna teach me
so many things."
388
00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:29,191
My mom always wanted
to call me Lance,
389
00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:32,152
but Raul wanted
to call me Dustin.
390
00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:36,281
And so, because in Mormonism,
patriarchy rules,
391
00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:39,326
my mom knew she had
to call me Dustin.
392
00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:42,538
So, Dustin Lance Garrison.
393
00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:44,039
But when he would
leave for work,
394
00:18:44,122 --> 00:18:47,000
or on these work trips
'cause he was always away,
395
00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:49,211
she would call me her lancer.
396
00:18:49,294 --> 00:18:51,797
So, at home, I was always Lance
397
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,466
and at school,
and out in the world,
I was Dustin.
398
00:18:54,550 --> 00:18:58,220
And so, I've had that split
identity my entire life.
399
00:18:58,303 --> 00:19:02,182
But the truth was, I was
so incredibly shy as a child,
400
00:19:02,266 --> 00:19:04,768
that meant I didn't
make any friends.
401
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:09,022
So my mom was
my best and only friend.
402
00:19:09,106 --> 00:19:11,066
She was my lifeline.
403
00:19:11,149 --> 00:19:12,359
And of course,
she doesn't give up.
404
00:19:12,442 --> 00:19:14,528
She's going to build
this big family
405
00:19:14,611 --> 00:19:16,655
and so, she gets
pregnant a third time.
406
00:19:16,738 --> 00:19:19,157
And this time, in 1978,
407
00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:22,870
she gives birth
to Todd Garrison.
408
00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:26,039
Todd Black:
I was born in Sacramento,
March 4, 1978.
409
00:19:26,123 --> 00:19:29,001
From a very early start,
my mom, she was a force.
410
00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:31,503
I just always remember
she was...
411
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:33,755
(sighs)
412
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,633
ah... she was
a very powerful woman,
413
00:19:36,717 --> 00:19:38,093
but she was very loving
414
00:19:38,176 --> 00:19:41,513
and I never really noticed
she wasn't the same.
415
00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:44,933
But there were moments
where people would stare
at her.
416
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:49,771
And I think we all had
the same reaction of like,
"What are you looking at?"
417
00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,232
She was just proud all the time
and proud of us.
418
00:19:52,316 --> 00:19:56,486
And I think that gave us
a lot of force for any time
we were knocked down
419
00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:58,822
to be like,
"That's no big deal."
420
00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:01,742
Lynn:
I remember Roseann comin'
when she had the babies
421
00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:04,286
each time,
you know, they'd come.
422
00:20:04,369 --> 00:20:06,538
We'd have a good
family together here
423
00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:08,957
in Texarkana
on the Texas side.
424
00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:10,918
You know, me and Marcus
played together
425
00:20:11,001 --> 00:20:12,419
and Lance played,
426
00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:14,463
and Todd was
just little-bitty Todd.
427
00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:17,257
And I even remember her
just sittin' over there.
428
00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:20,802
She had this beautiful smile,
this beautiful laugh.
429
00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:25,766
I mean, you would have
no idea she had polio.
430
00:20:25,849 --> 00:20:28,393
Donna Whitehead:
I just remember
offering to help her
431
00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:30,395
and she said,
"No, no. I'm, I'm fine."
432
00:20:30,479 --> 00:20:32,731
She was very, uh, clear
433
00:20:32,814 --> 00:20:34,483
that she could
take care of things
434
00:20:34,566 --> 00:20:37,486
and she just impressed me
as a very independent woman
435
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,738
that was very strong.
436
00:20:43,992 --> 00:20:45,953
Dustin:
So now my mom has
these three little boys
437
00:20:46,036 --> 00:20:48,956
and I think she's
incredibly happy about that.
438
00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:50,958
But I don't think Raul was.
439
00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:52,793
I think it was
too much for him.
440
00:20:52,876 --> 00:20:54,711
And he was also
struggling to keep a job.
441
00:20:54,795 --> 00:20:58,507
And so, now he's getting
either fired or laid off.
442
00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,175
And Raul gets a new job.
443
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:03,345
We end up having to pack up
and move out of California
444
00:21:03,428 --> 00:21:04,429
and says, "Let's go, let's go.
445
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:06,765
This is about survival.
We're movin'."
446
00:21:06,848 --> 00:21:09,017
And we moved here...
447
00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:11,269
to San Antonio, Texas.
448
00:21:12,562 --> 00:21:14,064
And I think
for one brief moment
449
00:21:14,147 --> 00:21:15,983
we felt like
a, a safe little family,
450
00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:18,860
but... that wouldn't last.
451
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,323
One of the things that happened
was that my big brother
452
00:21:23,407 --> 00:21:25,367
had this friend
who lived three doors up.
453
00:21:25,450 --> 00:21:28,662
And he would come over
and, like, usually,
he was beatin' me up.
454
00:21:28,745 --> 00:21:31,039
But I sorta didn't mind
and I didn't know
what that meant.
455
00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:32,624
I sorta looked forward to it.
456
00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:34,876
And then, there was
that moment where I realize,
457
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,754
"Oh, that's 'cause I love him."
458
00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:40,632
And it was very clear,
at six years old,
459
00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:42,217
this wasn't the love
you have for a friend.
460
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:44,219
This was a whole nother
level of something
461
00:21:44,302 --> 00:21:46,722
and I thought he
was so beautiful.
462
00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:48,640
And I think...
463
00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:51,852
those butterflies... ah!
464
00:21:51,935 --> 00:21:55,022
Lasted, like, five seconds.
465
00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:59,026
Because if you're Mormon,
you know you're going to hell.
466
00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:01,903
And at this time
in Texas, for sure,
467
00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:06,867
you were a criminal,
mentally ill, pariah.
468
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:10,162
And all the little
butterflies died.
469
00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:18,211
I was six years old, here.
470
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:19,546
And they would,
on special Sundays,
471
00:22:19,629 --> 00:22:21,923
beam in the prophet
of the Mormon church.
472
00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,759
It was Spencer W. Kimball.
473
00:22:23,842 --> 00:22:27,596
Like all the disease
doctrines of the devil,
474
00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:31,099
whether it is an increase
in homosexuality,
475
00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:34,227
corruption, drugs, or abortion,
476
00:22:34,311 --> 00:22:37,481
misery achieves
a ghastly monument.
477
00:22:37,564 --> 00:22:39,733
Dustin: And on this
one special Sunday,
478
00:22:39,816 --> 00:22:42,903
he compared the sin of murder...
479
00:22:42,986 --> 00:22:45,238
to the sin of homosexuality.
480
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:48,700
So I knew I had
to keep it a secret.
481
00:22:48,784 --> 00:22:50,952
I already knew I was,
you know, against the law.
482
00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:54,414
I already knew what kids
called people like me.
483
00:22:54,498 --> 00:22:56,041
And now,
484
00:22:56,124 --> 00:23:00,253
according to a man I really
respected and admired,
485
00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:04,466
I would be sent
into eternal nothingness.
486
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:07,636
I was so confused because--
487
00:23:07,719 --> 00:23:09,221
I mean, listen,
they call it sexuality,
488
00:23:09,304 --> 00:23:11,515
but sex had nothing
to do with it at the time.
489
00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,642
I had a crush.
490
00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:16,436
And I thought, "Man, this love,
491
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,522
"that feeling that doesn't
seem like it hurts anyone,
492
00:23:18,605 --> 00:23:23,318
that's gonna, that's gonna
be my ultimate demise?"
493
00:23:23,401 --> 00:23:25,946
They were teaching me
about a god
494
00:23:26,029 --> 00:23:29,574
who said loud and clear,
"Your heart has no value.
495
00:23:29,658 --> 00:23:30,867
Your love has no value."
496
00:23:30,951 --> 00:23:33,120
I just think it's worth
asking the question,
497
00:23:33,203 --> 00:23:35,288
"If you rob children
of their heart
498
00:23:35,372 --> 00:23:36,832
"and of their ability to love
499
00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:39,459
"and you threaten that they're
gonna lose their family,
500
00:23:39,543 --> 00:23:40,794
"are you surprised
501
00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:44,256
"that queer kids
kill themselves...
502
00:23:44,339 --> 00:23:48,468
at four times the rate
of their own straight
brothers and sisters?"
503
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:52,889
I'm not surprised
'cause I felt it.
504
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:59,396
โช โช
505
00:24:02,065 --> 00:24:03,817
Raul was gone all the time.
506
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:06,570
He was on the road,
traveling salesman.
507
00:24:06,653 --> 00:24:10,198
I mean, my mom has
her theories of what he
was doing on the road.
508
00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:11,658
And it was a bit more
509
00:24:11,741 --> 00:24:13,493
extracurricular, shall we say.
510
00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:16,830
And at one point,
he says to us,
511
00:24:16,913 --> 00:24:18,665
"A visitor from my family
is coming."
512
00:24:18,748 --> 00:24:21,960
And that was really rare.
And her name was Louise.
513
00:24:22,043 --> 00:24:24,963
Aunt Louise
is what he called her.
514
00:24:25,046 --> 00:24:29,176
Aunt Louise was
my father's first cousin.
515
00:24:29,259 --> 00:24:31,344
And they were having an affair.
516
00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:35,056
She caught Raul
and his first cousin
517
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:38,226
on the couch havin' sex
and his response was,
518
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:41,354
"Join in. We're gettin'
into the polygamy thing."
519
00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:44,691
Well, that's not what she bought
out of the Mormon religion.
520
00:24:44,774 --> 00:24:47,110
Dustin:
And he would run off
with her and disappear
521
00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:48,695
because in most places
522
00:24:48,778 --> 00:24:51,198
it was not legal to marry
your first cousin,
523
00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:52,699
but he found a state
where he could.
524
00:24:52,782 --> 00:24:56,369
And he knew he had
disavowed himself
525
00:24:56,453 --> 00:24:57,871
from the mainstream
Mormon church.
526
00:24:57,954 --> 00:24:59,414
He would be excommunicated.
527
00:24:59,497 --> 00:25:02,334
And I just remember
going up to my mom
528
00:25:02,417 --> 00:25:04,336
and she said,
529
00:25:04,419 --> 00:25:07,547
"Your, your dad is gone."
530
00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:08,840
And I was like, "Well, where?"
531
00:25:08,924 --> 00:25:11,885
And, you know, "He'll come back.
He always comes back."
532
00:25:11,968 --> 00:25:16,431
"No... Your dad's
not coming back."
533
00:25:16,514 --> 00:25:20,060
He abandoned a paralyzed woman
with three small children.
534
00:25:20,143 --> 00:25:21,853
She'd never had a job.
535
00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:23,480
She'd never driven a car.
536
00:25:23,563 --> 00:25:27,150
And we never, ever
heard from him again.
537
00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:30,278
Deborah:
He never had anything to do
with any of the boys.
538
00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,197
He never paid
any child support.
539
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,242
I mean, they couldn't even
find him to get a divorce.
540
00:25:35,325 --> 00:25:38,411
They had to put ads
in the paper and everything.
541
00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:40,205
He never looked back.
542
00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:42,415
Todd:
I never really asked
about our real dad.
543
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:45,710
And so, he left when I was
so young, he wasn't a factor.
544
00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:49,339
It sounds horrible,
but I never cared.
545
00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:53,843
Just me, and my mom,
and my two older brothers,
and then...
546
00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:58,682
the first stepdad. (inhales)
And that's a whole thing.
547
00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:04,521
Dustin:
My mom was struggling
to make ends meet.
548
00:26:04,604 --> 00:26:06,106
We were in a terrible
financial state
549
00:26:06,189 --> 00:26:07,399
'cause she didn't have a job,
550
00:26:07,482 --> 00:26:09,693
but we never had to collect
551
00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:11,444
any government assistance
552
00:26:11,528 --> 00:26:13,113
because the Mormon church
553
00:26:13,196 --> 00:26:16,783
started slipping envelopes
with money into our mailbox.
554
00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:18,910
We knew where it
was coming from,
555
00:26:18,994 --> 00:26:21,329
but they never expected
acknowledgment.
556
00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:24,457
And that community,
familial kindness,
557
00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:27,127
I have to praise
the Mormon church for.
558
00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,337
And we were
seven-day-a-week Mormons,
559
00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:30,672
six days a week at church,
560
00:26:30,755 --> 00:26:32,632
one day at home
for family home evening
561
00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:34,676
on Monday nights
for those lessons.
562
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,678
The church was our everything.
563
00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:39,055
Deborah:
The church helped her
a lot, financially,
564
00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:41,266
before she got
a job or anything.
565
00:26:41,349 --> 00:26:42,767
They do take care of people.
566
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,686
That's what churches
are supposed to do.
567
00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:47,439
My mom had to learn
how to drive,
568
00:26:47,522 --> 00:26:49,524
which thank God
for cousin Debbie
569
00:26:49,607 --> 00:26:51,818
comin' down and helpin' her
install hand controls
570
00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:53,403
on that massive Malibu Classic
571
00:26:53,486 --> 00:26:55,989
and scaring the living crap
out of us trying to learn.
572
00:26:56,072 --> 00:26:58,408
Deborah:
Here I am workin'
to get her a job,
573
00:26:58,491 --> 00:26:59,784
to get her some wheels.
574
00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:01,328
You know, we're gonna
get independent.
575
00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:05,582
So, we typed up her SF 171
and she was hired
576
00:27:05,665 --> 00:27:08,501
as a entry-level
GS five lab tech
577
00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,211
at Fort Sam Houston.
578
00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:14,382
But the good Mormon church,
as part of their policy,
579
00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:17,385
she was a woman
and she had to be taken care of.
580
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:20,138
Dustin:
My mom had been abandoned
by a Mormon husband,
581
00:27:20,221 --> 00:27:23,224
so the church has gotta
fix her up with somebody.
582
00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:25,226
Who's gonna marry this woman?
583
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,896
Oh, I know, the Boy Scout master
584
00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:31,107
of Troop 624
of the Windsor Ward.
585
00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:33,693
He was an Air Force
and Staff Sergeant.
586
00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:37,322
His name was Merrill D. Black.
587
00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:40,075
And I have this picture
of getting on top
of his shoulders
588
00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:42,619
and he helped us put
the star on top of the tree.
589
00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:44,412
And I thought, "Okay,
590
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,581
we'll take all the help
we can get."
591
00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,250
Deborah: She didn't really,
like, meet Merrill
592
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,086
and fall in love.
593
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:53,296
It was set up by the church.
594
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,757
He's divorced.
He had some kids.
595
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,134
She's divorced.
She had some kids.
596
00:27:58,218 --> 00:27:59,803
He's going to support her.
597
00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:02,972
Like my mom,
he also had been divorced.
598
00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,557
He had two children of his own,
599
00:28:04,641 --> 00:28:07,394
but we never really heard
from them, never saw them.
600
00:28:07,477 --> 00:28:09,562
So, something was weird.
601
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:11,439
And they go and get married.
602
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:16,111
And I immediately
say to my mom,
603
00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:17,946
"I want his last name.
604
00:28:18,029 --> 00:28:19,989
I do not
want to be a Garrison."
605
00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:22,742
And so, the paperwork came
in the mail and it says,
606
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:25,829
"Dustin Lance Garrison
is now officially adopted
607
00:28:25,912 --> 00:28:27,789
"by Merrill Durant Black.
608
00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:32,710
His name is now
Dustin Lance Black."
609
00:28:32,794 --> 00:28:34,796
I was so happy.
610
00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:38,550
What I didn't know yet was
that would be the best thing
611
00:28:38,633 --> 00:28:40,218
this man ever provided.
612
00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:41,719
What I would
find out really soon
613
00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:45,014
is that he had a real problem
with his temper.
614
00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:47,559
It was like, "Oh my gosh,
you know, we have this--
615
00:28:47,642 --> 00:28:49,477
When they got married,
we have this father."
616
00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:51,312
And then it just... (snaps)
617
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:54,774
I just remember
the, the switch flipping
pretty quickly to him being,
618
00:28:54,858 --> 00:28:56,943
"We have a father
and he's a monster."
619
00:28:57,026 --> 00:28:59,362
Dustin:
One day my room
just wasn't clean enough
620
00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:01,114
for an Air Force
Staff Sergeant.
621
00:29:01,197 --> 00:29:02,949
And with his full might,
622
00:29:03,032 --> 00:29:05,660
he punches me
square in the face.
623
00:29:05,743 --> 00:29:07,287
And I landed
on my back on the floor.
624
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:11,791
My nose is bleeding
and it's all so blurry.
625
00:29:11,875 --> 00:29:14,586
I just remember my mom
charging in the door
626
00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:16,337
on braces and crutches
and she comes up
627
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,006
to this six-foot-four man,
and says,
628
00:29:18,089 --> 00:29:22,719
"You will not lay a hand
on my son again
or I will kill you."
629
00:29:22,802 --> 00:29:27,390
And he... cowered,
and shook and cried.
630
00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:29,017
Promised to get help.
631
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,728
But that was not
the last time he hit me.
632
00:29:31,811 --> 00:29:34,230
Because I was told,
"We can't go to the police.
633
00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:36,524
We have to go
to the Mormon church."
634
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,984
They didn't want
you calling the police.
635
00:29:38,067 --> 00:29:40,820
They wanted you
to call the bishop.
636
00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:42,155
And I would find out later
637
00:29:42,238 --> 00:29:44,908
how many times
he hit my mother.
638
00:29:44,991 --> 00:29:47,744
And the Mormon church,
the entire time is saying,
639
00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:51,456
"The responsibility of the wife
is to create an atmosphere
640
00:29:51,539 --> 00:29:52,790
that suits
your priesthood holder,"
641
00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,376
which is the name
for the father in that house.
642
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:58,338
"And if, if he's having
to resort to this sort
of violence,
643
00:29:58,421 --> 00:30:01,549
there's something
in the home that's not right
for your priesthood holder."
644
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:05,136
They put the responsibility
on my mom.
645
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:08,014
And the problem was,
there was nothing
my mom could do
646
00:30:08,097 --> 00:30:12,352
to make that home suitable
for a man like that.
647
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:15,021
It just kept going.
648
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:20,652
Well... knowin' Roseann,
she hid it very well.
649
00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:23,112
She might've told my mother.
I don't know.
650
00:30:23,196 --> 00:30:25,782
For sure my daddy
didn't know, uh.
651
00:30:25,865 --> 00:30:28,785
If Daddy would've known,
he'd have done the same thing
I'd have done.
652
00:30:28,868 --> 00:30:31,371
We'd have... we'd have
been in trouble 'cause,
653
00:30:31,454 --> 00:30:33,248
personally, I'd have beat
the hell out of him.
654
00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:35,708
I mean, it wouldn't stop him
'cause that's,
655
00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:37,919
you know, probably what
he's gonna do anyway.
656
00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:40,755
But it's, it's just not right.
657
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,967
(ambient nature sounds)
658
00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:49,264
Todd:
You know I think
about this park a lot.
659
00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:50,598
-Dustin: Do you?
-Todd: A lot.
660
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,433
Dustin: What does it mean to yo?
661
00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,645
Todd: It was, like, us time.
662
00:30:56,813 --> 00:30:59,148
We'd get away from...
663
00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:02,026
all of that
that was going on.
664
00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:04,195
It felt like an adventure
coming out here.
665
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,030
-Dustin: I know.
-Right?
666
00:31:08,992 --> 00:31:11,578
This was the area.
This is where we would come.
667
00:31:11,661 --> 00:31:13,746
-Yeah.
-And it was, like,
668
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,665
in the spring...
669
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:19,127
it was just jam-full
of tadpoles.
670
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:21,879
You remember? And those
tiny, little minnowy things.
671
00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:23,756
But, like,
I guess it was free fun.
672
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,091
-It was.
-Like, other kids
got Disneyland,
673
00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:27,343
we got a bucket
full of tadpoles.
674
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:30,847
And it was like,
sort of like heaven.
675
00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:32,807
Marcus would go
to the drainage ditches
676
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:34,058
and sit under the underpasses
677
00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,311
-and smoke whatever.
-Mm-hm.
678
00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:37,562
And I would take you down here
679
00:31:37,645 --> 00:31:39,397
'cause you were
my responsibility.
680
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,233
And this was, like,
the best place to keep
you away from home.
681
00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:44,360
I loved it out here.
682
00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:47,447
And then that one day,
when we got home--
683
00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:48,948
I don't know if you
even remember it.
684
00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:50,241
We've never really
talked about it.
685
00:31:50,325 --> 00:31:51,659
-But that day, we got home.
-Never.
686
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,286
I put the bucket down.
687
00:31:53,369 --> 00:31:56,664
That was the day I went inside
and saw Merrill try to kill Mom.
688
00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:58,041
(screaming)
689
00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:01,169
I hear the screaming coming
from where the kitchen is
690
00:32:01,252 --> 00:32:04,672
and then I see my mom running
691
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:06,841
as only you can
on braces and crutches,
692
00:32:06,924 --> 00:32:09,510
like a pendulum
moving as fast as she can
693
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:13,264
screaming... for help.
694
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:20,063
And then... after her is
Merrill Black holding a knife,
695
00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:21,856
a kitchen knife.
696
00:32:23,441 --> 00:32:25,443
Going after her
with that silent,
697
00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:27,987
terrifying look in his eye.
698
00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:31,366
I took in the image
and I froze.
699
00:32:31,449 --> 00:32:34,869
And the back
sliding glass door
flies open...
700
00:32:34,952 --> 00:32:38,206
and Marcus, my big brother,
comes charging in
701
00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:40,083
with an aluminum baseball bat,
702
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:41,668
goes straight after Merrill
703
00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:45,046
and all I hear is
bing, bing, bing.
704
00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:48,383
But Merrill ducked
into the bathroom
to escape the blows
705
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:51,260
and locked himself inside.
706
00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:53,763
Marcus hadn't been
around a whole lot,
707
00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:56,557
but he showed up
at the most important moment.
708
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:58,393
My mom would've died that day.
709
00:32:58,476 --> 00:33:00,937
I'm sure I would've been next.
710
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:04,941
My big brother saved my life.
711
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:08,361
What we would
eventually find out
712
00:33:08,444 --> 00:33:10,071
that the Mormon church
failed to tell my mom,
713
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:11,531
and of course,
he wasn't gonna divulge,
714
00:33:11,614 --> 00:33:15,201
is that Merrill tried
to kill his first wife
715
00:33:15,284 --> 00:33:16,703
and I guess the Mormon church
716
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:19,580
didn't feel like it was
a woman's business to know that.
717
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:21,874
And so, Marcus and I,
718
00:33:21,958 --> 00:33:24,043
we took matters
into our own hands.
719
00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:25,920
He said, "I got a plan.
720
00:33:26,003 --> 00:33:27,547
"When everybody's asleep,
721
00:33:27,630 --> 00:33:30,466
you're coming with me
into the garage."
722
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:34,429
And Merrill drove this
horrible avocado green Gremlin,
723
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:37,140
which was, like,
a car at the time.
724
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:39,809
And the, the Gremlin
was right here.
725
00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:41,978
So, Marcus came out here
and he had, like, a toolbox,
726
00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:43,229
so it was, like,
right along here
727
00:33:43,312 --> 00:33:45,398
and he just grabbed
wire snippers
728
00:33:45,481 --> 00:33:49,944
and he crawled under here
and all I heard was, "dink."
729
00:33:50,027 --> 00:33:53,614
And he, and he crawled out
and in that Marcus way,
730
00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:56,284
"Dude, it's done, all right?
Just go. Sneak back in.
731
00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:57,702
Don't get caught.
Dude, let's go."
732
00:33:57,785 --> 00:34:00,538
He had just cut the brake line.
733
00:34:00,621 --> 00:34:04,333
The next day,
Merrill goes off to work...
734
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:07,462
but then he comes home.
735
00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:09,005
Gremlin's fine.
736
00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:11,883
We, I think, cut
the windshield wiper fluid,
not the brake fluid.
737
00:34:11,966 --> 00:34:15,178
And Marcus and I
are sitting there like,
"We're dead."
738
00:34:15,261 --> 00:34:16,804
Because Merrill
had this look in his eye.
739
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,848
He was so upset,
so clearly, he knew.
740
00:34:18,931 --> 00:34:21,642
He was just waiting
for the moment to kill us.
741
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,144
But it turns out
he had had a meeting
742
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:24,729
with his supervisor that day
743
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:27,398
who instead of giving him
the raise he had hoped for
744
00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:31,194
was sending him
to South Korea for six months.
745
00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:33,029
Oh, it was the best.
He's leaving.
746
00:34:33,112 --> 00:34:35,156
He's leaving.
The monster is leaving.
747
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,658
(laughs)
748
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:40,369
And I don't think
we had been more happy
749
00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:42,246
then at any time
that he had been there.
750
00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:44,624
Deborah:
When Merrill was sent to Korea,
751
00:34:44,707 --> 00:34:49,086
she confided in me then
about what was goin' on.
752
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:52,632
We didn't know,
until after it had happened,
753
00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:55,510
how violent this man was.
754
00:34:55,593 --> 00:35:00,014
And she took steps
to actually divorce him
while he was gone
755
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:02,183
and get him out of her life.
756
00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:04,352
I also remember bein' down there
757
00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:08,815
when she told me about this
handsome guy in the Army
758
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:13,236
who was gonna take her
on a motorcycle ride.
759
00:35:13,319 --> 00:35:17,281
Jeff Bisch:
I met Roseanna
in January of 1986.
760
00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:19,283
I had just been reassigned
761
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:21,828
to Brooke Army Medical Center
at Fort Sam.
762
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:24,789
I was involved
in special forces training.
763
00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:26,541
I had a parachuting accident,
764
00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:30,545
so they reassigned me back
to hospital division.
765
00:35:30,628 --> 00:35:32,839
And that's what brought
me to San Antonio.
766
00:35:32,922 --> 00:35:38,261
And I oddly enough,
first noticed Anne as I was
walking into the building.
767
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:40,972
I saw this woman
pull up in a car.
768
00:35:41,055 --> 00:35:43,057
Blonde hair, lookin' beautiful.
769
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:44,600
And I just went
about my business.
770
00:35:44,684 --> 00:35:47,520
I went in and met
with the, uh, senior NCOs.
771
00:35:47,603 --> 00:35:48,729
Had an interview.
772
00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:50,273
They said,
"Okay, we're gon' put you
773
00:35:50,356 --> 00:35:51,858
in a microbiology section."
774
00:35:51,941 --> 00:35:54,026
And as they were introducing
me to the staff,
775
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:55,486
I come around the corner
776
00:35:55,570 --> 00:35:58,781
and who's there
but the beautiful woman
in the car.
777
00:35:58,865 --> 00:36:03,744
She was assigned as my mentor
when I started working there.
778
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:07,331
We just seemed to hit it off
and just kind of get along
779
00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:09,709
and I don't think
either one of us
780
00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:11,752
was looking for a relationship.
781
00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:14,964
It's somethin'
that just gradually happened.
782
00:36:15,047 --> 00:36:16,591
Yes, there was
an age difference.
783
00:36:16,674 --> 00:36:19,093
There was (chuckles) 16 years.
784
00:36:19,176 --> 00:36:23,139
But for us, it never
was an issue at all.
785
00:36:23,222 --> 00:36:25,558
We had similar
interests in music,
786
00:36:25,641 --> 00:36:27,435
a similar interest in movies.
787
00:36:27,518 --> 00:36:30,897
And we both loved
the beach, ocean, um.
788
00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:35,735
We just seemed to gel
so well together.
789
00:36:35,818 --> 00:36:37,820
Deborah:
Jeff Bisch came and got her
790
00:36:37,904 --> 00:36:40,156
and took her
on a motorcycle ride.
791
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,076
That's the Roseann I know,
the daredevil.
792
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,453
Roseanna was back...
793
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:48,581
and she was in love.
794
00:36:48,664 --> 00:36:51,959
Jeff:
We did keep our affair quiet
from the people at work.
795
00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:55,129
And initially, she wanted
to keep this from her children
796
00:36:55,212 --> 00:36:58,674
until she felt like
now is a good time.
797
00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:02,720
And she asked me to come over
to the house and meet the boys.
798
00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:04,764
Todd:
The first time Jeff
walked in the house,
799
00:37:04,847 --> 00:37:06,974
there was a light in her eyes
and we were like,
800
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,226
"It's gonna be okay, isn't it?
801
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:11,395
Everything's gonna be okay."
802
00:37:13,022 --> 00:37:15,942
(cries) He saved us.
He literally saved us.
803
00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:18,527
And I had no clue at the time,
804
00:37:18,611 --> 00:37:22,490
(laughs, sniffles)
like, how bad we needed it.
805
00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:26,285
Dustin:
My mom had to call Merrill
overseas and say,
806
00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:28,037
"Listen, I, I want a divorce."
807
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,373
And I guess he
could've made it messy,
808
00:37:30,456 --> 00:37:31,582
but she was well-armed.
809
00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:33,793
I mean, at this point,
my mom was becoming
810
00:37:33,876 --> 00:37:35,419
disenchanted
with the Mormon church.
811
00:37:35,503 --> 00:37:37,296
We'd stopped going
when she met Jeff
812
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,465
'cause now,
she met a real man
813
00:37:39,548 --> 00:37:41,509
who, yeah,
was macho and tough,
814
00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:44,679
but he was gentle and loving.
815
00:37:44,762 --> 00:37:46,389
Jeff:
Soon after she got divorced,
816
00:37:46,472 --> 00:37:50,142
the Army transferred me out
to Fort Ord, California.
817
00:37:50,226 --> 00:37:52,603
That was a very hard thing
for me to ask.
818
00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:55,940
"Roseanna, are you sure you
want to go across the country,
819
00:37:56,023 --> 00:38:00,194
taking the boys out of school,
away from their friends?"
820
00:38:00,277 --> 00:38:03,197
And surprisingly enough...
821
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,867
the boys all viewed this
as a chance to start over.
822
00:38:06,951 --> 00:38:10,997
Todd:
The divorce with Merrill
and leaving San Antonio,
823
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,456
it was a clean slate
824
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:13,833
and we're moving forward
825
00:38:13,916 --> 00:38:16,043
and it was always
about moving forward
826
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,545
and looking at the future.
827
00:38:19,422 --> 00:38:21,674
Jeff: We got married
in the basement of City Hall
828
00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:24,176
in San Antonio
by the justice of the peace.
829
00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:28,556
It was just Roseanna, myself,
and her best friend.
830
00:38:29,598 --> 00:38:31,726
I was a little bit
afraid for her
831
00:38:31,809 --> 00:38:35,646
because she met this guy
that was quite a bit younger
832
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:40,484
and I was afraid
because of the past
two relationships.
833
00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:44,488
But she was
determined to do this.
834
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,616
Dustin:
Jeff packed up and moved
835
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,036
to Salinas, California,
before we left
836
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:53,372
so that he could try
and find a place to live
and get situated.
837
00:38:53,456 --> 00:38:55,416
So, we were
behind him by a week.
838
00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:59,754
And we drove
in the Malibu Classic
from San Antonio
839
00:38:59,837 --> 00:39:01,839
through New Mexico into Arizona
840
00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:05,509
and in Los Angeles,
you gotta kinda take a turn
north to get to Salinas
841
00:39:05,593 --> 00:39:07,595
and, and we screwed it up.
842
00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,764
We got lost in Los Angeles.
843
00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:12,308
My mom is up front
workin' the hand controls
844
00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:14,810
and my big brother, Marcus,
has a map spread out
845
00:39:14,894 --> 00:39:18,272
and he's trying to help us
find our way out of LA.
846
00:39:18,355 --> 00:39:20,316
I was curious about this place
847
00:39:20,399 --> 00:39:23,069
'cause I knew
they made movies here.
848
00:39:23,152 --> 00:39:26,572
But my mom said,
"This is the land of sinners."
849
00:39:26,655 --> 00:39:29,450
Though my mom had stopped
going to Mormon church
when she met Jeff,
850
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:33,621
she did not ever stop being
faithful or conservative.
851
00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:37,416
And so, she couldn't get
out of LA fast enough.
852
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,294
And as we're going up
out of Southern California,
853
00:39:40,377 --> 00:39:42,755
I just remember thinking,
"Oh, boy.
854
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,091
I wanna take one last look."
855
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:48,302
And I, I just, I felt the call.
856
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:54,475
(ambient nature sounds)
857
00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:04,944
Jeff:
When Roseanna came
to work at Fort Ord,
858
00:40:05,027 --> 00:40:08,614
she initially was given
the only open slot there was
859
00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:10,449
which was
that of a shipping clerk.
860
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:13,786
So, it was...
not the role she wanted.
861
00:40:13,869 --> 00:40:15,663
And then,
a position became open
862
00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:17,873
for a medical technologist
on the staff
863
00:40:17,957 --> 00:40:19,625
and she took it
and ran with it.
864
00:40:19,708 --> 00:40:21,794
She always got
through every inspection
865
00:40:21,877 --> 00:40:24,338
with no deficiencies
and no findings.
866
00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:27,383
And that made her so proud.
867
00:40:27,466 --> 00:40:29,009
And it drove her
868
00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:32,429
to be the best technologist
that she could be.
869
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:38,310
Todd:
Salinas, as a city,
wasn't the best place.
870
00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:40,855
Salinas was a big
farming community.
871
00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:44,316
Lots of gangs, lots of crime.
872
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,028
But it was a short drive
to Monterey and the coast.
873
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:49,196
It's beautiful.
874
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,948
Jeff and I
would take bike rides
875
00:40:51,031 --> 00:40:52,449
out along the beach,
876
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,493
go kayaking in the bay.
877
00:40:54,577 --> 00:40:57,329
And Salinas was just,
that's just where we lived.
878
00:40:57,413 --> 00:41:00,666
Dustin:
Salinas was just another
game of survival for me
879
00:41:00,749 --> 00:41:02,209
for a really long time.
880
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,712
I felt at home,
but we were in a slightly more
881
00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:07,339
dangerous school
in terms of violence.
882
00:41:07,423 --> 00:41:10,551
There was a teacher shot
by a student while I was there.
883
00:41:10,634 --> 00:41:13,262
And it was the first time
walking into school one day
884
00:41:13,345 --> 00:41:16,140
I was wearing
a black turtleneck
and I'd permed my hair
885
00:41:16,223 --> 00:41:18,517
to look more like
a New Kid on the Block
886
00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:20,227
and I walked
into school thinking,
887
00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:22,188
"Maybe I look good now."
888
00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:25,274
Uh, and instead,
a guy said, "Hey, faggot."
889
00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:27,902
And I just kept walking.
I didn't turn, nothing.
890
00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:32,364
I just was like, "Oh, my God,
he couldn't have been saying
that to me, right?"
891
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:35,159
Thankfully,
I found the theater.
892
00:41:35,242 --> 00:41:36,911
Followed my brother
into it, really.
893
00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:38,704
Marcus went into theater
894
00:41:38,787 --> 00:41:40,456
and I desperately
wanted his approval.
895
00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:42,541
I wanted to impress him.
And so, I said,
896
00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:44,501
"Well, I wanna do that, too."
Even though I was shy,
897
00:41:44,585 --> 00:41:46,629
I was like, "This will be
a great way to confront that."
898
00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:48,672
But my brother would never
last in these things.
899
00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:52,718
And he was slipping
further and further into drugs
900
00:41:52,801 --> 00:41:57,348
and this very punk rock,
heavy metal culture.
901
00:41:57,431 --> 00:41:59,600
Rebecca Clark Mane:
I met Marcus in 1989
902
00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:02,353
in the more dangerous
parts of Salinas.
903
00:42:02,436 --> 00:42:04,438
And Salinas was by a prison.
904
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,899
So, there's this nice
kind of middle-class area
905
00:42:06,982 --> 00:42:09,568
and then I would say
70% of it is hardcore.
906
00:42:09,652 --> 00:42:13,239
And the group of people that
Marcus and I hung out with,
907
00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:14,740
I guess you'd call us rockers.
908
00:42:14,823 --> 00:42:16,492
We listened to heavy metal.
909
00:42:16,575 --> 00:42:20,746
We did drugs, drank,
all of those things,
910
00:42:20,829 --> 00:42:22,748
We were a bunch of broken kids.
911
00:42:22,831 --> 00:42:25,584
All of us were traumatized
in some way.
912
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:28,504
We didn't know
what had happened to Marcus.
913
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,047
He never told any of us.
914
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:31,507
But we knew he was damaged
915
00:42:31,590 --> 00:42:33,842
'cause he was there
night after night with us.
916
00:42:33,926 --> 00:42:35,511
Dustin:
Marcus was so tough.
917
00:42:35,594 --> 00:42:38,055
He was an auto mechanic.
He was smoking cigarettes.
918
00:42:38,138 --> 00:42:39,890
He was doing
all kinds of drugs.
919
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:42,851
He was just
a self-defined redneck.
920
00:42:42,935 --> 00:42:45,688
And I was quiet
and shy and sensitive.
921
00:42:45,771 --> 00:42:50,484
And it seemed
that we were just growing
further and further apart.
922
00:42:50,567 --> 00:42:51,944
But he was my hero, man.
923
00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:53,612
So, I thought,
"Okay, I'm gonna do theater."
924
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:56,615
And I learned
that I loved telling stories.
925
00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:59,576
And so, at high school,
I was putting on a play
926
00:42:59,660 --> 00:43:01,578
and I needed
some hands and help
927
00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:03,831
and I just went into the hallway
'cause I was desperate
928
00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:07,668
and there was this guy
with a big mustache,
929
00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:10,504
kind of thinning hair
on top, husky,
930
00:43:10,587 --> 00:43:13,674
and his name was Ryan Elizalde.
931
00:43:13,757 --> 00:43:17,803
And he looked at me,
up and down, sized me up,
932
00:43:17,886 --> 00:43:20,347
and said, "Spread your legs."
933
00:43:20,431 --> 00:43:23,309
Ryan Elizalde:
Back then, I, I liked to play
a lot of jokes on people,
934
00:43:23,392 --> 00:43:26,186
so I had
this poster in my hand,
it was rolled up,
935
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,731
and I took that poster
and kinda whacked him
between the legs.
936
00:43:28,814 --> 00:43:31,150
He kinda collapsed on the floor
and everybody laughed
937
00:43:31,233 --> 00:43:32,484
and I thought
that was kinda funny.
938
00:43:32,568 --> 00:43:35,946
I've apologized
for that several times.
(laughs)
939
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:39,408
He wanted to put me in my place,
show me who was in charge.
940
00:43:39,491 --> 00:43:41,827
And because I didn't just whine
and cry and freak out
941
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:44,330
'cause I'd... bolstered myself,
942
00:43:44,413 --> 00:43:46,457
I got an invitation
to go to Denny's.
943
00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:48,208
And in Salinas, California,
944
00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:49,877
to go to Denny's was
945
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,880
an invitation
to the cool kid's table.
946
00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:55,049
Ryan:
After everyone was done eating,
I took a spoon
947
00:43:55,132 --> 00:43:57,634
and passed it to my right
and everybody sort of put
948
00:43:57,718 --> 00:43:59,636
a little piece of something
on the spoon,
949
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,889
leftover food, sugar, ketchup,
950
00:44:01,972 --> 00:44:03,766
whatever they could
find off their plates
951
00:44:03,849 --> 00:44:05,726
and it came all the way
back around to Lance
952
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:07,519
and then Lance puts
something on it
953
00:44:07,603 --> 00:44:10,689
and he's-- was
handing it back to me
and I just went, "No."
954
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:13,192
I'm like,
"If you wanna be here,
you have to eat that."
955
00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:16,403
So, I ate that motherfucking
spoonful of hell
956
00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:19,365
and it changed
the course of our lives.
957
00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:21,033
I wasn't ready to put words
958
00:44:21,116 --> 00:44:23,494
to the connection
I knew I had with Ryan,
959
00:44:23,577 --> 00:44:26,163
but my mom could see it
and it terrified her
960
00:44:26,246 --> 00:44:28,374
'cause she knew
my friendship with Ryan
961
00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:31,752
meant that our relationship
would change.
962
00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:36,632
(film projector WHIRRING)
963
00:44:36,715 --> 00:44:38,258
Wanting to be
a filmmaker, for me,
964
00:44:38,342 --> 00:44:40,803
goes all the way back
to renting a film
965
00:44:40,886 --> 00:44:43,055
when I was a teenager
in Texas called
966
00:44:43,138 --> 00:44:44,556
"The 400 Blows,"
967
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,309
Francois Truffaut's
French New Wave masterpiece.
968
00:44:47,393 --> 00:44:50,604
And it's about a young boy
in a really troubled family
969
00:44:50,687 --> 00:44:54,191
and those were
the stories I wanted to tell
970
00:44:54,274 --> 00:44:55,818
that felt more like my life,
971
00:44:55,901 --> 00:44:58,529
that moved people,
that changed people.
972
00:44:58,612 --> 00:45:00,489
So, when I graduated
from high school,
973
00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:02,408
I just said,
"I wanna go somewhere
974
00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:04,535
where I can learn
how to make movies."
975
00:45:04,618 --> 00:45:06,370
So I should be
where they make movies.
976
00:45:06,453 --> 00:45:09,373
So I convinced Ryan
to move with me
977
00:45:09,456 --> 00:45:11,250
and, uh, he had
to ponder it for a while.
978
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,376
He had a good job,
979
00:45:12,459 --> 00:45:14,795
all his friends,
his family in Salinas.
980
00:45:14,878 --> 00:45:18,465
Ryan:
It was shortly after Lance
graduated high school
981
00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:19,967
we started having
the conversation
982
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:22,302
about moving to Los Angeles.
983
00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:24,138
What are we gonna do?
How are we gonna survive?
984
00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:27,808
It was a scary move.
I mean, when you think
about what we did.
985
00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:32,062
Dustin:
We had no plan,
no real place to go.
986
00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:35,023
And my mom was
just so heartbroken.
987
00:45:35,107 --> 00:45:38,360
She just said, "My Lancer,
you can always come back."
988
00:45:38,444 --> 00:45:41,029
She was terrified.
989
00:45:41,113 --> 00:45:43,740
Ryan:
I think I had $400 in my pocket
990
00:45:43,824 --> 00:45:47,619
and I had a car
that was 20 years old.
991
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:51,331
We just showed up in Pasadena.
We got a hotel.
992
00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:53,709
And from there we decided,
"Okay, I gotta find a job."
993
00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:57,629
We gotta get things goin'
because we don't even know
where we're gonna live.
994
00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:02,259
And so, we ended up
finding an apartment,
but it was so tiny.
995
00:46:02,342 --> 00:46:04,678
It must've been
300 square feet.
996
00:46:04,761 --> 00:46:07,723
And I took a job right away.
He got a job right away.
997
00:46:07,806 --> 00:46:11,852
So we were able to make
that rent and survive.
998
00:46:11,935 --> 00:46:14,855
Dustin:
In those first couple of years
in the community college
999
00:46:14,938 --> 00:46:18,108
out in Pasadena
where we were hearing
gunfire at night
1000
00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:20,235
because we weren't
in the good part of Pasadena.
1001
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:23,030
We were in the rough spot
'cause that's what we
could afford.
1002
00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:26,325
And then I applied here
to UCLA's film school
1003
00:46:26,408 --> 00:46:29,161
knowing they only took
15 students a year
1004
00:46:29,244 --> 00:46:30,829
from outside the university.
1005
00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:33,874
And I remember my mom said,
"You gotta have a backup plan."
1006
00:46:33,957 --> 00:46:35,584
And in my mom's style, I said,
1007
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:39,797
"No, I don't. I'm gonna get in.
I'm gonna be one of 'em."
1008
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,049
I mean, this was
my dream school.
1009
00:46:42,132 --> 00:46:44,510
I had worked years
at multiple jobs,
1010
00:46:44,593 --> 00:46:47,971
hungry at night,
trying to get all A's
in community college,
1011
00:46:48,055 --> 00:46:49,139
studying film,
1012
00:46:49,223 --> 00:46:51,183
then working
on that application
1013
00:46:51,266 --> 00:46:54,269
and those essays for weeks.
1014
00:46:54,353 --> 00:46:56,396
And guess what?
1015
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,066
I was one of those 15.
1016
00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:04,571
Speaker:
Today's ceremony marks
the official closure
1017
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:06,949
of Ford Ord
as an Army installation
1018
00:47:07,032 --> 00:47:11,870
and brings to an end
a period of 77 years
of cooperation
1019
00:47:11,954 --> 00:47:15,123
between the military personnel
assigned to Ford Ord
1020
00:47:15,207 --> 00:47:18,835
and the people
of the Monterey Peninsula.
1021
00:47:18,919 --> 00:47:22,005
Jeff:
When they started to close
down the military bases,
1022
00:47:22,089 --> 00:47:24,550
Fort Ord was selected
for one of those.
1023
00:47:24,633 --> 00:47:27,261
And that forced us
to look for a job elsewhere.
1024
00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:28,720
We happen to have friends
1025
00:47:28,804 --> 00:47:31,056
at Walter Reed
in Washington, D.C.
1026
00:47:31,139 --> 00:47:34,101
And they said, "Hey, we think
we can get you on staff here."
1027
00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:36,436
And I said, "Well,
we're moving to Virginia.
1028
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,313
We're starting over again."
1029
00:47:38,397 --> 00:47:39,898
And Roseanna
1030
00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:43,235
also applied
for a position there
and was accepted.
1031
00:47:43,318 --> 00:47:46,405
Again, it wasn't in her
favorite area of microbiology.
1032
00:47:46,488 --> 00:47:48,740
It was in another section
called immunology.
1033
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:50,158
In this section,
1034
00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:53,412
Roseanna dealt with samples
from AIDS patients.
1035
00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:55,080
One day while she was working,
1036
00:47:55,163 --> 00:47:57,749
she inadvertently stabbed
herself with a needle
1037
00:47:57,833 --> 00:48:00,460
while extracting some blood
from one of the tubes.
1038
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:02,546
And, of course, she was worried,
1039
00:48:02,629 --> 00:48:05,340
you know, that, that she
might contract the virus,
1040
00:48:05,424 --> 00:48:06,383
but she didn't.
1041
00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:08,010
We now have, uh, every day,
1042
00:48:08,093 --> 00:48:12,306
1,900 people in hospital beds
with HIV illness.
1043
00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:15,100
Uh, by 1993, we are gonna need
1044
00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:17,769
4,000 to 5,000
hospital beds a day.
1045
00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:19,605
Dustin:
Gay people were fighting
for their lives .
1046
00:48:19,688 --> 00:48:21,690
I mean, this is in the middle
of the AIDS epidemic
1047
00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:23,275
and there was no treatment.
1048
00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:24,860
This isn't the time
where you came out
1049
00:48:24,943 --> 00:48:27,529
and it was just
a Pride parade and a party.
1050
00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:28,739
It was complicated.
1051
00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:32,159
Ryan:
When we moved to Los Angeles,
1052
00:48:32,242 --> 00:48:34,911
I thought that I would
have a new opportunity
1053
00:48:34,995 --> 00:48:36,496
to rediscover myself.
1054
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:39,625
And I didn't feel
comfortable even then.
1055
00:48:39,708 --> 00:48:41,126
I didn't have
a whole lot of friends.
1056
00:48:41,209 --> 00:48:42,419
I didn't really
have any friends.
1057
00:48:42,502 --> 00:48:44,212
The first two years
we were in LA,
1058
00:48:44,296 --> 00:48:46,381
all I had was Lance and
I didn't really go anywhere.
1059
00:48:46,465 --> 00:48:50,177
And I was even more terrified
of the possibility of even
1060
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:51,511
telling anyone that I was gay.
1061
00:48:51,595 --> 00:48:53,221
And at that point,
I think I was heading
1062
00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:55,223
for a heart attack,
just gaining a lot of weight
1063
00:48:55,307 --> 00:48:58,477
and being really, really sad.
1064
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,230
Dustin:
I had suspected and kind of
known Ryan was gay
1065
00:49:02,314 --> 00:49:06,360
and I started pushing him to do
what I knew I couldn't do,
1066
00:49:06,443 --> 00:49:09,029
that I was too afraid to do.
It's, like, I wanted to see it.
1067
00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:11,114
What does it look like
for someone to come out?
1068
00:49:11,198 --> 00:49:12,699
And I wanted to hear it.
1069
00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:15,202
And I wanted to know
if he survived it.
1070
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:17,537
I mean, it's rather cruel.
1071
00:49:17,621 --> 00:49:21,041
Ryan:
Lance had finished
at Pasadena City College.
1072
00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:23,001
There was
a, a summer break there
1073
00:49:23,085 --> 00:49:26,588
where we were gonna be apart
from each other for the summer.
1074
00:49:26,672 --> 00:49:29,299
And so, we had stayed up
all night talking
1075
00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:32,594
and Lance just kept hammering
me about, you know,
1076
00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:35,263
"Why haven't you brought
any girls over to the house?"
1077
00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:38,058
By the end of the night,
I would just, you know--
I'll tell you.
1078
00:49:38,141 --> 00:49:40,435
Like, it's, it's
what you think it is.
1079
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:42,062
He said it.
1080
00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:43,897
Eventually, he came out to me.
1081
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:45,857
And I said,
"Well, okay, you know,
1082
00:49:45,941 --> 00:49:48,193
I understand. I hear you."
1083
00:49:48,276 --> 00:49:52,155
Um, "I don't know
if we can still be friends.
I don't know."
1084
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,827
Ryan:
It was scary because he
said things such as like,
1085
00:49:56,910 --> 00:49:58,495
"I don't know if we
can be friends anymore,
1086
00:49:58,578 --> 00:50:01,623
if our friendship
is gonna be the same
because of this."
1087
00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:04,084
And so, I thought I lost him.
1088
00:50:04,167 --> 00:50:06,044
Dustin:
I mean, I was saying
all the things I thought
1089
00:50:06,128 --> 00:50:07,379
a genuinely straight person
1090
00:50:07,462 --> 00:50:09,297
was supposed to say
to a person who came out.
1091
00:50:09,381 --> 00:50:11,758
I was playing a part.
I was playing a role.
1092
00:50:11,842 --> 00:50:13,844
And it really hurt him.
1093
00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:16,096
I was treating people
really poorly.
1094
00:50:16,179 --> 00:50:18,765
You wanna know the recipe
for treating people like shit?
1095
00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:20,559
Hate yourself.
1096
00:50:20,642 --> 00:50:22,519
You turn into a monster.
1097
00:50:22,602 --> 00:50:24,479
And we didn't
talk much that summer.
1098
00:50:24,563 --> 00:50:27,315
And that summer, I was
in Virginia with my family
1099
00:50:27,399 --> 00:50:29,735
and had a girlfriend
for the first time.
1100
00:50:29,818 --> 00:50:32,070
I mean...
1101
00:50:32,154 --> 00:50:34,114
I just didn't want to be gay.
1102
00:50:34,197 --> 00:50:35,699
Ryan: There was one
phone call that we had
1103
00:50:35,782 --> 00:50:37,784
towards the end of the summer
where I told him, you know,
1104
00:50:37,868 --> 00:50:39,244
"Are we gonna still
be roommates?"
1105
00:50:39,327 --> 00:50:40,746
Like, "What's gonna happen?"
1106
00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:42,330
And then I told him,
"You know, I really,
1107
00:50:42,414 --> 00:50:43,749
really miss you."
1108
00:50:43,832 --> 00:50:45,834
He's like,
"Look out the window.
Do you see the moon?"
1109
00:50:45,917 --> 00:50:47,335
And I'm like,
"Yeah, I can see the moon."
1110
00:50:47,419 --> 00:50:48,879
He's like,
"I'm lookin' at the moon, too."
1111
00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:50,589
We're like,
"We're lookin' at the same
thing right now."
1112
00:50:50,672 --> 00:50:52,257
It's like,
"We're gonna be friends."
1113
00:50:52,340 --> 00:50:54,760
Ryan and I realized
just how much we
missed each other
1114
00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:56,678
and he agreed to two more years
1115
00:50:56,762 --> 00:50:59,431
to see me through UCLA.
1116
00:50:59,514 --> 00:51:01,975
And so, I flew back
to Los Angeles
1117
00:51:02,058 --> 00:51:04,644
and I met Ryan here.
1118
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:07,397
But the man who walked
into the room
1119
00:51:07,481 --> 00:51:10,734
was not the Ryan I had left.
1120
00:51:10,817 --> 00:51:13,612
Mustache, gone.
Head, shaved.
1121
00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:16,782
Body, lean and tan
and tattooed.
1122
00:51:16,865 --> 00:51:19,409
I had left him in wreckage
1123
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:21,745
and he'd risen like a phoenix.
1124
00:51:21,828 --> 00:51:25,165
While I'm here at UCLA,
he starts bringing home
all of these new friends
1125
00:51:25,248 --> 00:51:27,083
from a place called
West Hollywood.
1126
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:29,336
And this is a time
when young queer kids
1127
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,338
were attacked and killed,
1128
00:51:31,421 --> 00:51:33,131
even in West Hollywood.
1129
00:51:33,215 --> 00:51:36,259
And Ryan was
a genuine protector,
1130
00:51:36,343 --> 00:51:39,346
which meant my house
was filled with the cutest boys
1131
00:51:39,429 --> 00:51:41,807
who were out and gay
and had gaydar
1132
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:44,476
and I could see them
seeing me.
1133
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,436
And the clock was ticking.
1134
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,522
I mean, it was either...
1135
00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:53,318
run away, jump off a bridge ,
or come out.
1136
00:51:53,401 --> 00:51:55,737
And I, over the course
of the next few days,
1137
00:51:55,821 --> 00:51:57,739
wrote this manifesto.
1138
00:51:57,823 --> 00:51:59,950
Ryan:
He came to my room
and he said,
1139
00:52:00,033 --> 00:52:02,369
"What would you think
if I told you I was gay?"
1140
00:52:02,452 --> 00:52:04,788
And I said,
"I would probably hate you."
1141
00:52:04,871 --> 00:52:08,792
And the reason I said that
is because he put me through
so much when I came out.
1142
00:52:08,875 --> 00:52:11,294
After that morning
when he told me that,
1143
00:52:11,378 --> 00:52:14,673
I got up late for work
and he had already gone
to school.
1144
00:52:14,756 --> 00:52:17,676
And on the mirror
of our bathroom,
he wrote in soap,
1145
00:52:17,759 --> 00:52:19,553
"Read this page for page,
word for word,
1146
00:52:19,636 --> 00:52:22,430
and whatever you decide
to do is fine with me."
1147
00:52:22,514 --> 00:52:24,641
And on the counter,
it was a big arrow pointing down
1148
00:52:24,724 --> 00:52:26,977
to this manifesto
that he had written.
1149
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:28,645
So, I start reading
the first few pages
1150
00:52:28,728 --> 00:52:30,605
and I start thinking
to myself, "Oh, my God.
1151
00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:32,774
Like, what's going on?
Is he gonna hurt himself?"
1152
00:52:32,858 --> 00:52:35,360
And I, I was panicking
looking at this.
1153
00:52:35,443 --> 00:52:37,028
And at the very last page,
1154
00:52:37,112 --> 00:52:39,197
there was these
two dime roles on it
1155
00:52:39,281 --> 00:52:41,116
and it just says,
"I, Dustin Lance Black,"
1156
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:44,202
and you flip it over,
"am gay."
1157
00:52:44,286 --> 00:52:45,829
And I was like, "Oh, my God."
1158
00:52:45,912 --> 00:52:48,123
And so, I, I immediately
ran out of the house
1159
00:52:48,206 --> 00:52:50,000
because I didn't know
what he was going to do.
1160
00:52:50,083 --> 00:52:53,420
And I saw him walking up
and he stopped.
1161
00:52:53,503 --> 00:52:56,256
The thing that's most memorable
from that moment
1162
00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,592
is he looked at me
and said, "Happy birthday."
1163
00:52:58,675 --> 00:53:01,761
He said,
"Well, this is the first day
1164
00:53:01,845 --> 00:53:05,765
of the rest of your life,
the first day of the real you."
1165
00:53:07,017 --> 00:53:11,104
But I had a lot to lose,
including my own family.
1166
00:53:11,187 --> 00:53:14,024
And I knew that that day
would eventually come.
1167
00:53:14,107 --> 00:53:17,319
Where if she found out,
I would lose my mom.
1168
00:53:20,655 --> 00:53:22,574
We never missed a Christmas.
1169
00:53:22,657 --> 00:53:25,160
My mom always wanted
to make sure that
1170
00:53:25,243 --> 00:53:27,579
every Christmas
was better than the last.
1171
00:53:27,662 --> 00:53:31,124
But the year I came out
in Los Angeles,
1172
00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:33,960
I remember saying,
"Oh, I can only come home
for a couple days."
1173
00:53:34,044 --> 00:53:37,589
Thinking that if I was
just home for less time,
1174
00:53:37,672 --> 00:53:39,257
she wouldn't figure it out.
1175
00:53:39,341 --> 00:53:42,260
And so, I always had an excuse
for going to my room,
1176
00:53:42,344 --> 00:53:44,429
going to bed,
being away from everyone,
1177
00:53:44,512 --> 00:53:45,931
not sharing stories.
1178
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:47,682
And my mom really felt it.
1179
00:53:47,766 --> 00:53:50,560
So, I just remember
being in the bedroom
1180
00:53:50,644 --> 00:53:53,313
and I hear this sound
coming down the hall,
1181
00:53:53,396 --> 00:53:56,566
this click clack, click clack,
click clack, click clack.
1182
00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:58,151
It's the sound I've heard
my whole life,
1183
00:53:58,234 --> 00:54:01,279
braces and crutches
coming down the hall
to the room.
1184
00:54:01,363 --> 00:54:03,114
And she comes in
and she sits down on the bed
1185
00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:05,450
and she puts
her crutches down beside her
1186
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:06,701
how she always would.
1187
00:54:06,785 --> 00:54:07,786
I wasn't gonna talk,
1188
00:54:07,869 --> 00:54:09,162
so she starts
with the news of the day.
1189
00:54:09,245 --> 00:54:10,830
And the news of the day
at the time was a thing called
1190
00:54:10,914 --> 00:54:13,333
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
1191
00:54:13,416 --> 00:54:17,671
Which meant that as long as
gay people didn't shout out
1192
00:54:17,754 --> 00:54:19,589
that they were gay and didn't
come out in the military,
1193
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,092
they could participate
and no one would ask
that question.
1194
00:54:22,175 --> 00:54:25,011
It is right because it
provides greater protection
1195
00:54:25,095 --> 00:54:26,680
to those who happen
to be homosexual
1196
00:54:26,763 --> 00:54:29,808
and want to serve their country
honorably in uniform,
1197
00:54:29,891 --> 00:54:32,310
obeying all
the military's rules
1198
00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:34,020
against sexual misconduct.
1199
00:54:34,104 --> 00:54:36,815
Dustin:
But it was seen as a terrible
betrayal by gay people
1200
00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:39,484
because it shut
the closet door on them.
1201
00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:40,735
But to others, like my mom,
1202
00:54:40,819 --> 00:54:43,029
it was actually seen
as too accommodating.
1203
00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:46,324
And so, she just starts
going off about how could
1204
00:54:46,408 --> 00:54:48,827
Bill Clinton sign this law
1205
00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:51,830
that lets these deviants,
these perverts, these sinners
1206
00:54:51,913 --> 00:54:53,873
into her good military.
1207
00:54:53,957 --> 00:54:55,834
And I closed my eyes
1208
00:54:55,917 --> 00:55:01,172
and I felt that tear
blaze down my cheek.
1209
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:04,175
And she knew.
1210
00:55:06,636 --> 00:55:08,596
And it was not good news.
1211
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,100
And I just remember
her finally speaking...
1212
00:55:13,226 --> 00:55:15,353
and she just said, "Why?
1213
00:55:17,897 --> 00:55:21,651
Why, why would you choose this?"
1214
00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:29,492
But I looked at her legs
inside those braces
1215
00:55:29,576 --> 00:55:31,995
and I looked at those
crutches behind her...
1216
00:55:33,204 --> 00:55:36,166
and I said,
"Why did you choose those?"
1217
00:55:36,249 --> 00:55:38,418
And it was just silent.
1218
00:55:40,837 --> 00:55:43,965
The closest person in my life,
my hero,
1219
00:55:44,049 --> 00:55:46,426
was disappointed in me.
1220
00:55:46,509 --> 00:55:48,553
I went back to California
1221
00:55:48,636 --> 00:55:51,056
knowing that my mom
didn't accept me
1222
00:55:51,139 --> 00:55:53,183
and we started
to drift apart...
1223
00:55:53,266 --> 00:55:55,435
in her America,
1224
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:58,646
the faithful, southern,
1225
00:55:58,730 --> 00:56:00,440
red,
1226
00:56:00,523 --> 00:56:03,109
and me in California,
1227
00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:04,486
blue...
1228
00:56:05,236 --> 00:56:06,988
progressive...
1229
00:56:08,406 --> 00:56:09,699
and queer.
1230
00:56:13,661 --> 00:56:16,247
The next six months or so
just raced by.
1231
00:56:16,331 --> 00:56:19,459
And now,
what's coming is graduation.
1232
00:56:19,542 --> 00:56:22,462
And I'm now living with Ryan
and one other roommate
1233
00:56:22,545 --> 00:56:24,798
and we decide we're
gonna throw this party.
1234
00:56:24,881 --> 00:56:26,257
And we're in this
little apartment
1235
00:56:26,341 --> 00:56:29,803
filled with friends,
many of whom are LGBTQ,
1236
00:56:29,886 --> 00:56:32,639
and I hear that familiar
sound again,
1237
00:56:32,722 --> 00:56:35,183
click clack, click clack,
click clack coming.
1238
00:56:35,266 --> 00:56:38,144
I hear the knock on the door
and I open it up
1239
00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:40,772
and there she was,
my little southern mom
1240
00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:44,317
in her braces and crutches,
had come for my graduation.
1241
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,945
And I had not told her
1242
00:56:47,028 --> 00:56:49,614
that so many
of my friends were queer.
1243
00:56:49,697 --> 00:56:53,451
I also hadn't told my friends
that my mom hadn't accepted me.
1244
00:56:53,535 --> 00:56:57,080
And at this time,
there aren't a whole lot
of accepting parents.
1245
00:56:57,163 --> 00:57:01,084
So, they thought,
"Oh, my gosh, she's the mother
who loves her queer son."
1246
00:57:01,167 --> 00:57:03,670
I mean, this was
remarkable to them.
1247
00:57:03,753 --> 00:57:05,839
Ryan:
I didn't know that it had
been taken so negatively.
1248
00:57:05,922 --> 00:57:09,050
So I thought we were good,
you know, with Anne coming out.
1249
00:57:09,134 --> 00:57:11,803
And I thought that this was
going to be just a fun event.
1250
00:57:11,886 --> 00:57:13,721
She gets to meet
some of Lance's friends.
1251
00:57:13,805 --> 00:57:16,850
Dustin:
And they start sharing
their queer stories,
1252
00:57:16,933 --> 00:57:18,518
their very personal
stories to her
1253
00:57:18,601 --> 00:57:21,980
and talking about gay sex
and how lesbians do it.
1254
00:57:22,063 --> 00:57:24,023
And it just kept getting
deeper and deeper and deeper
1255
00:57:24,107 --> 00:57:26,651
and I think Ryan thought it
was probably hilarious.
1256
00:57:26,734 --> 00:57:31,322
I'm absolutely terrified
because I didn't expect that.
1257
00:57:31,406 --> 00:57:34,826
And so now, I start seeing
all of my friends leaving
1258
00:57:34,909 --> 00:57:41,332
and my mom just pats the, uh,
the, the cushion of the futon.
1259
00:57:41,416 --> 00:57:45,253
And, uh, that means,
"Come on, it's time.
Come sit next to Mom."
1260
00:57:45,336 --> 00:57:49,591
Now, one of these friends
at the party, Jason--
1261
00:57:49,674 --> 00:57:52,552
Ooh, I just was so
incredibly in love with Jason.
1262
00:57:52,635 --> 00:57:55,388
Jason didn't really give me
the time of day.
1263
00:57:55,471 --> 00:57:57,432
And my mom lead with that.
1264
00:57:57,515 --> 00:57:59,851
She said, "Well, I had
a long conversation with him.
1265
00:57:59,934 --> 00:58:02,353
"And, you know, I told him
that I think he ought
1266
00:58:02,437 --> 00:58:04,355
"to start treating
my son better.
1267
00:58:04,439 --> 00:58:08,776
"And that maybe
he, um, ought to take
my son out to dinner.
1268
00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:11,905
And because he's a bit older,
he should pay."
1269
00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,243
(chuckles, cries)
1270
00:58:19,287 --> 00:58:21,706
She just wrapped
her arms around me
1271
00:58:21,789 --> 00:58:24,209
and held me so incredibly tight.
1272
00:58:25,501 --> 00:58:30,632
It was the first time
my mom had ever held me
1273
00:58:30,715 --> 00:58:36,512
and loved me for me...
every bit of me.
1274
00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:38,765
Ryan:
For Anne to absorb
all that in one night,
1275
00:58:38,848 --> 00:58:42,060
just having
that emotional connection
with so many people,
1276
00:58:42,143 --> 00:58:45,230
it's, it's mind-blowing
to think that, in one night,
1277
00:58:45,313 --> 00:58:48,399
like, her opinion was switched.
1278
00:58:48,483 --> 00:58:51,527
Dustin:
It happened because my mother
was courageous enough
1279
00:58:51,611 --> 00:58:57,033
to share a space...
with my friends and listen.
1280
00:58:57,116 --> 00:58:59,744
That's how powerful
1281
00:58:59,827 --> 00:59:03,915
story in a shared space is.
1282
00:59:03,998 --> 00:59:08,086
You might still disagree,
but you start to change.
1283
00:59:08,169 --> 00:59:10,588
A bridge is built.
1284
00:59:10,672 --> 00:59:13,299
So, after graduation,
I waited tables
1285
00:59:13,383 --> 00:59:16,177
and I grabbed any and every
opportunity I could
1286
00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:19,973
to tell gay stories,
documentaries, short films,
1287
00:59:20,056 --> 00:59:22,141
gay episodes
of BBC's "Faking It,"
1288
00:59:22,225 --> 00:59:24,143
and then a big break.
1289
00:59:24,227 --> 00:59:27,146
Director Paris Barclay
read a script of mine
1290
00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:29,691
and asked if I would
write the screenplay
1291
00:59:29,774 --> 00:59:34,612
about the gay HIV activist
Pedro Zamora.
1292
00:59:34,696 --> 00:59:36,572
Paris Barclay:
Well, there's two things
I discovered about Lance
1293
00:59:36,656 --> 00:59:38,116
when we worked
together on "Pedro,"
1294
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:40,285
which is this unique
sense of humor
1295
00:59:40,368 --> 00:59:43,579
and this ability to structure
things in very unusual ways.
1296
00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:45,790
And if you're dealing
with a real person,
1297
00:59:45,873 --> 00:59:47,417
in the case of Pedro Zamora,
1298
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:50,253
he's completely committed
to that real person's life
1299
00:59:50,336 --> 00:59:53,339
being presented in the most
correct way possible.
1300
00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:55,341
He really wanted
to get at the truth.
1301
00:59:55,425 --> 00:59:57,427
And then, Lance writes "Milk,"
1302
00:59:57,510 --> 01:00:00,763
which had an urgency about it
and a potency,
1303
01:00:00,847 --> 01:00:03,057
and that story would
help impassion people
1304
01:00:03,141 --> 01:00:05,810
and, I thought, find a place
to put that passion.
1305
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:08,896
Reporter:
As political parades go,
1306
01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:10,440
it was a little unusual.
1307
01:00:10,523 --> 01:00:12,900
Harvey Milk on his way
to City Hall to be sworn in
1308
01:00:12,984 --> 01:00:15,069
as a supervisor
in San Francisco.
1309
01:00:15,153 --> 01:00:17,488
I will fight to represent
my constituents.
1310
01:00:17,572 --> 01:00:20,950
I will fight to represent
the city and county
of San Francisco.
1311
01:00:21,034 --> 01:00:22,994
I will fight to give
those people
1312
01:00:23,077 --> 01:00:25,371
who had once
walked away, hope,
1313
01:00:25,455 --> 01:00:27,957
so that those people
will walk back in.
1314
01:00:28,041 --> 01:00:31,044
-Thank you very much.
-(applause)
1315
01:00:31,127 --> 01:00:34,005
Anne Kronenberg:
I worked for Harvey Milk
when I was a young woman.
1316
01:00:34,088 --> 01:00:39,385
And what Harvey Milk
tried to do in the 1970s
1317
01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:43,222
was to create
an environment of equality
1318
01:00:43,306 --> 01:00:48,019
regardless
of sexual orientation
or color of your skin.
1319
01:00:48,102 --> 01:00:51,939
Harvey Milk:
If I'm fighting for the rights
of gay people, and I am,
1320
01:00:52,023 --> 01:00:54,609
then I must fight
for the rights of all people,
1321
01:00:54,692 --> 01:00:56,527
you know, all the minorities,
the senior citizens,
1322
01:00:56,611 --> 01:00:58,696
the handicapped,
the disenfranchised people,
1323
01:00:58,780 --> 01:00:59,739
or I'm a hypocrite.
1324
01:00:59,822 --> 01:01:01,115
Anne:
Harvey was able to pass
1325
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:03,117
a gay rights ordinance
in San Francisco,
1326
01:01:03,201 --> 01:01:06,913
so that people could not
be discriminated against
if they were gay.
1327
01:01:06,996 --> 01:01:12,043
But on November 27, 1978,
Harvey was assassinated.
1328
01:01:12,126 --> 01:01:14,337
Dianne Feinstein:
Both Mayor Moscone
1329
01:01:14,420 --> 01:01:16,923
and supervisor Harvey Milk
1330
01:01:17,006 --> 01:01:19,092
have been shot and killed.
1331
01:01:19,175 --> 01:01:21,260
-(crowd groans, exclaims)
-Person: Jesus Christ!
1332
01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:26,015
The suspect
is supervisor Dan White.
1333
01:01:26,099 --> 01:01:27,934
Dustin:
I first heard the story
of Harvey Milk
1334
01:01:28,017 --> 01:01:29,852
when I was a closeted teenager.
1335
01:01:29,936 --> 01:01:32,355
I mean,
I learned that there was such
a thing as an out gay person.
1336
01:01:32,438 --> 01:01:33,773
I didn't know that that existed.
1337
01:01:33,856 --> 01:01:36,359
And I heard the story
of a man who believed
1338
01:01:36,442 --> 01:01:38,486
that minorities
and disenfranchised folks,
1339
01:01:38,569 --> 01:01:40,822
including gay people
and disabled people,
1340
01:01:40,905 --> 01:01:44,283
could come together
to win more acceptance,
to have better lives.
1341
01:01:44,367 --> 01:01:46,452
And that message gave me hope.
1342
01:01:46,536 --> 01:01:48,704
But that life-saving message,
by the 2000s,
1343
01:01:48,788 --> 01:01:51,958
was mostly lost to history,
forgotten.
1344
01:01:52,041 --> 01:01:53,835
Anne:
After Harvey Milk's
assassination,
1345
01:01:53,918 --> 01:01:57,463
there were many attempts
at trying to make a movie
about his life.
1346
01:01:57,547 --> 01:02:00,967
And I spoke to numerous
people over the years
1347
01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:04,470
and the screenplays
or the scripts were horrible.
1348
01:02:04,554 --> 01:02:07,473
And so, I had come
to believe that
1349
01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:10,309
I would never see anything
made about Harvey.
1350
01:02:10,393 --> 01:02:13,855
And out of the blue
one day in 2007,
1351
01:02:13,938 --> 01:02:17,108
Lance came to my office
and he was so intense
1352
01:02:17,191 --> 01:02:20,611
and he was so passionate
about the project.
1353
01:02:20,695 --> 01:02:24,031
And he let me read the script
and I knew from that moment
1354
01:02:24,115 --> 01:02:25,783
that everything
was gonna work out.
1355
01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:28,244
-(crowd cheering)
-My name is Harvey Milk
1356
01:02:28,327 --> 01:02:30,288
and I'm here to recruit you.
1357
01:02:30,371 --> 01:02:31,914
Dustin: Getting "Milk" made
1358
01:02:31,998 --> 01:02:35,334
was a huge challenge.
1359
01:02:35,418 --> 01:02:36,794
It was a spec script.
1360
01:02:36,878 --> 01:02:38,337
It didn't have a studio at first
1361
01:02:38,421 --> 01:02:42,592
because I was working on a show
called "Big Love" at HBO,
1362
01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:44,969
but I wasn't
a big-time writer yet.
1363
01:02:45,052 --> 01:02:48,431
And so, it was
a bit of a coup that
1364
01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:52,101
I had gone head-to-head
with a competing project
at Warner Bros.
1365
01:02:52,185 --> 01:02:55,354
and here we were,
in San Francisco,
1366
01:02:55,438 --> 01:02:58,733
with Gus Van Sant directing,
Sean Penn starring,
1367
01:02:58,816 --> 01:03:02,820
and we're making this film
about my great hero,
1368
01:03:02,904 --> 01:03:04,697
a film a lot of people
in Hollywood
1369
01:03:04,780 --> 01:03:07,366
were probably
hoping would fall apart.
1370
01:03:07,450 --> 01:03:09,660
And so, I just was
dedicated to gettin' it right.
1371
01:03:09,744 --> 01:03:13,956
Jeff:
When Lance was
writing the script,
1372
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,543
he would send drafts
of the "Milk" script
1373
01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:21,297
to her to review
and to ask her opinion.
1374
01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:23,216
And she thrived
on that with him.
1375
01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:28,721
We will no longer
sit quietly in the closet.
1376
01:03:28,804 --> 01:03:30,598
We must fight.
1377
01:03:30,681 --> 01:03:34,310
Lance felt that Harvey's story
needed to be told
1378
01:03:34,393 --> 01:03:35,895
to a wider group of people
1379
01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:38,231
because Harvey
had given him hope
1380
01:03:38,314 --> 01:03:41,192
and I think he wanted
to be able to pass that on
1381
01:03:41,275 --> 01:03:42,944
to the next generation.
1382
01:03:43,027 --> 01:03:44,737
Dustin:
I was so focused on "Milk,"
1383
01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:47,949
I was ignoring
incoming messages and calls.
1384
01:03:48,032 --> 01:03:50,910
And the one that I was
receiving most frequently
1385
01:03:50,993 --> 01:03:53,496
was from Marcus,
from my big brother,
1386
01:03:53,579 --> 01:03:56,707
'cause he was in Virginia at
this point living with my mom.
1387
01:03:56,791 --> 01:03:59,085
And it would be a few weeks
into the shoot of "Milk"
1388
01:03:59,168 --> 01:04:02,421
before I finally picked up
the phone on a Sunday
1389
01:04:02,505 --> 01:04:06,592
and I said, "Hey, bro.
Hey, Marcus, what's up?"
1390
01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:09,095
"I really need to talk to you."
1391
01:04:09,178 --> 01:04:12,098
You know, and I went,
"Oh, God," you know,
1392
01:04:12,181 --> 01:04:14,016
"Did you get someone pregnant?"
1393
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,979
You know,
"Is-- What do you need?
Like, what happened?"
1394
01:04:18,062 --> 01:04:21,399
And he said,
"No, no, no, no.
You know Larry?"
1395
01:04:21,482 --> 01:04:24,277
I said, "Yeah," you know,
"I know your friend Larry."
1396
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,112
"Well, um...
1397
01:04:27,738 --> 01:04:30,575
Larry broke up with me."
1398
01:04:30,658 --> 01:04:32,827
And I just was like, I-- That--
1399
01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:35,413
I'm sorry,
this does not compute.
1400
01:04:35,496 --> 01:04:38,165
And he said, "Larry's afraid
if anybody finds out
1401
01:04:38,249 --> 01:04:40,543
"what'll happen to us.
1402
01:04:40,626 --> 01:04:45,131
And I love him...
but he's afraid."
1403
01:04:45,214 --> 01:04:47,466
My brother is coming out to me.
1404
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:48,843
I'm shocked.
1405
01:04:48,926 --> 01:04:50,511
I'm confused,
but I'm gonna get it right.
1406
01:04:50,595 --> 01:04:52,972
And I, I said, "Well, you came
to the right guy, right?
1407
01:04:53,055 --> 01:04:54,348
"I've got every hope speech
1408
01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:56,058
"in the world
memorized right now.
1409
01:04:56,142 --> 01:04:58,477
I can tell you how
it's going to get better."
1410
01:04:58,561 --> 01:05:03,858
And truly, nothing I said
made a difference.
1411
01:05:03,941 --> 01:05:07,945
He just was like,
"Yeah, okay, all right.
1412
01:05:08,029 --> 01:05:09,697
I'll talk to you later, bro."
1413
01:05:09,780 --> 01:05:14,493
He hung up,
as despondent and broken
as when the call began.
1414
01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:16,287
And it hit me
1415
01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:20,583
that he was coming out
in rural Virginia
1416
01:05:20,666 --> 01:05:23,002
where there were
no protections at the time,
1417
01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:25,796
no protections for housing,
for employment.
1418
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,009
So, Larry and Marcus literally
had every reason to be afraid.
1419
01:05:30,092 --> 01:05:32,428
And I thought,
it was one of those
first moments
1420
01:05:32,511 --> 01:05:36,682
where I went, "My God,
we live in, at least,
two Americas."
1421
01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:38,601
I mean, how can we live
in the same country
1422
01:05:38,684 --> 01:05:41,896
and he's afraid for his job,
and his home, and his life
1423
01:05:41,979 --> 01:05:43,898
and I can be in California
1424
01:05:43,981 --> 01:05:46,150
where I can be relatively
stable and safe?
1425
01:05:46,233 --> 01:05:48,736
And here I am making
this civil rights movie
1426
01:05:48,819 --> 01:05:50,321
that's supposed
to be very hopeful
1427
01:05:50,404 --> 01:05:52,948
and I feel like
I've somehow left my brother
1428
01:05:53,032 --> 01:05:55,576
out of all of that.
1429
01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:57,370
The first solution
we came up with
1430
01:05:57,453 --> 01:06:00,790
was for my brother to move
from Virginia to California.
1431
01:06:00,873 --> 01:06:02,249
And he moved in with me.
1432
01:06:02,333 --> 01:06:06,087
And he tried and really failed
with any kind of dating.
1433
01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:08,381
I remember coming home one day
1434
01:06:08,464 --> 01:06:12,718
and he started to cry
and he just said...
1435
01:06:12,802 --> 01:06:16,222
"Are, are there
any gays like me?"
1436
01:06:16,305 --> 01:06:18,057
Rebecca:
Marcus was a man's man.
1437
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:22,019
Marcus could talk to other men
about cars for hours
1438
01:06:22,103 --> 01:06:25,523
and that wasn't a kind of gay
you could be back then.
1439
01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:27,525
And I think that's
one of the things
1440
01:06:27,608 --> 01:06:30,194
that probably kept him
in the closet for so long
1441
01:06:30,277 --> 01:06:33,072
is that there was
one way to be gay
1442
01:06:33,155 --> 01:06:35,574
and that was the way
Lance is gay.
1443
01:06:35,658 --> 01:06:36,867
'Cause I was the same way.
1444
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:39,870
When I went to college,
I came out as a lesbian.
1445
01:06:39,954 --> 01:06:42,832
And I went to Lilith Fair
and I was a heavy metal chick.
1446
01:06:42,915 --> 01:06:45,418
And I was like, "This music
fuckin' sucks," you know?
1447
01:06:45,501 --> 01:06:47,128
I was like,
maybe I'm not a lesbian
1448
01:06:47,211 --> 01:06:48,754
'cause I don't wanna
wear Birkenstocks.
1449
01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:52,049
I don't wanna go to these
stupid folk festivals.
1450
01:06:52,133 --> 01:06:53,926
So, maybe,
I don't know what I am.
1451
01:06:54,009 --> 01:06:57,430
And I feel like that is
what happened for Marcus, too.
1452
01:06:57,513 --> 01:07:00,599
Dustin: Eventually,
he started going online,
1453
01:07:00,683 --> 01:07:02,560
trying his best to meet anybody
1454
01:07:02,643 --> 01:07:05,688
who he thought he had
something in common with.
1455
01:07:05,771 --> 01:07:07,732
And one day,
he up and moved,
1456
01:07:07,815 --> 01:07:10,025
this time, into another
corner of America,
1457
01:07:10,109 --> 01:07:13,070
a conservative town
in Western Michigan
1458
01:07:13,154 --> 01:07:16,115
and kind of disappeared
into a relationship there.
1459
01:07:16,198 --> 01:07:18,617
And I would talk
to him intermittently,
1460
01:07:18,701 --> 01:07:20,953
uh, but not a whole lot.
1461
01:07:21,036 --> 01:07:23,664
And I didn't quite know
what was going on with him.
1462
01:07:24,623 --> 01:07:26,751
(light music playing)
1463
01:07:29,587 --> 01:07:31,797
Jeff:
Roseanna had just retired
1464
01:07:31,881 --> 01:07:35,634
after 27 years of working
for the Department of Defense.
1465
01:07:35,718 --> 01:07:40,222
She was given commendations
by President and Mrs. Bush
1466
01:07:40,306 --> 01:07:43,058
thanking her for her service
to her country.
1467
01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:48,022
There are letters
from the mayor of D.C.
at the time.
1468
01:07:48,105 --> 01:07:50,274
There are letters
from congressmen
1469
01:07:50,357 --> 01:07:52,735
and a Virginia state senator
1470
01:07:52,818 --> 01:07:54,945
for her outstanding work.
1471
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:58,574
Then, something
horrible happened.
1472
01:07:58,657 --> 01:08:00,618
Dustin:
When we were doing
the score for "Milk,"
1473
01:08:00,701 --> 01:08:04,288
we were in London
and I got a phone call
from my mom.
1474
01:08:04,371 --> 01:08:06,123
And she said, you know,
"Can you come home?"
1475
01:08:06,207 --> 01:08:07,583
I'm like,
"Well, I'm in the middle
of this thing.
1476
01:08:07,666 --> 01:08:10,669
Can you please tell me why?"
And she finally confessed
1477
01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:13,464
that she had been diagnosed
with breast cancer.
1478
01:08:13,547 --> 01:08:16,425
Deborah:
It was devastating
to the whole family.
1479
01:08:16,509 --> 01:08:19,845
She had been through so much
and now to go through this.
1480
01:08:19,929 --> 01:08:22,431
But what was Anne
if nothing else?
1481
01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:24,850
She was a fighter.
So, she fought it
1482
01:08:24,934 --> 01:08:26,685
just as hard as she could.
1483
01:08:26,769 --> 01:08:30,648
Nannette:
She had surgery
and radiation,
1484
01:08:30,731 --> 01:08:32,441
but she was struggling,
1485
01:08:32,525 --> 01:08:34,485
not acting like
she was struggling,
1486
01:08:34,568 --> 01:08:36,987
but she was struggling.
1487
01:08:37,071 --> 01:08:38,781
Jeff:
A hard part with her
1488
01:08:38,864 --> 01:08:41,492
getting into the chemo
was she was getting weak.
1489
01:08:41,575 --> 01:08:44,995
She had to get used
to being in a wheelchair,
1490
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:47,164
which she did not like.
1491
01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:50,459
But she just didn't have
the physical strength
1492
01:08:50,543 --> 01:08:53,546
to continue to walk on crutches.
1493
01:08:53,629 --> 01:08:57,383
But when we went
to the "Milk" premiere...
1494
01:08:57,466 --> 01:09:00,135
she got out of the wheelchair.
1495
01:09:00,219 --> 01:09:06,934
She walked down that red carpet
and into the movie theater.
1496
01:09:07,017 --> 01:09:09,478
Dustin:
And then I got nominated
for an Academy award.
1497
01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:12,106
Almost everyone
on the film got nominated.
1498
01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:14,859
It was this
incredibly exciting day.
1499
01:09:14,942 --> 01:09:16,902
And my mom calls me up
immediately and goes,
1500
01:09:16,986 --> 01:09:19,196
"Oh, my Lancer,
I can't believe it!"
1501
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,366
I said to her,
"Mom, would you come with me?"
1502
01:09:22,449 --> 01:09:24,451
And she was like,
"Oh, my goodness.
1503
01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:26,704
Like, I don't
even know if I can."
1504
01:09:26,787 --> 01:09:29,623
Like, a little girl from
Lake Providence, Louisiana,
1505
01:09:29,707 --> 01:09:31,667
is gonna go to the Oscars.
1506
01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:34,086
And I said,
"Yes, let's do it."
1507
01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:36,755
And at this point,
she has a wig on,
1508
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:38,757
uh, because she's been
going through chemotherapy.
1509
01:09:38,841 --> 01:09:41,927
And I'll never forget
my mom in her black dress
1510
01:09:42,011 --> 01:09:44,930
just starts pinning something
to her dress.
1511
01:09:45,014 --> 01:09:46,515
And when it's
all straightened up,
1512
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:48,559
it's a little white ribbon
with a knot in the middle,
1513
01:09:48,642 --> 01:09:50,644
which at the time,
had become the symbol
1514
01:09:50,728 --> 01:09:52,897
of support
for marriage equality.
1515
01:09:52,980 --> 01:09:55,774
And I thought, "Oh, I never
thought I would see that day
1516
01:09:55,858 --> 01:09:57,651
when I came out to her."
1517
01:09:57,735 --> 01:10:01,280
-(audience applauding)
-Steve Martin:
And the Oscar goes to
1518
01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:04,992
Dustin Lance Black
for "Milk."
1519
01:10:05,075 --> 01:10:07,494
To all of the gay and lesbian
kids out there tonight
1520
01:10:07,578 --> 01:10:10,497
who have been told
that they are less than
by their churches,
1521
01:10:10,581 --> 01:10:12,750
or by the government,
or by their families,
1522
01:10:12,833 --> 01:10:17,212
that you are beautiful,
wonderful creatures of value.
1523
01:10:17,296 --> 01:10:21,091
And that, no matter
what anyone tells you,
God does love you
1524
01:10:21,175 --> 01:10:22,968
and that very soon,
I promise you,
1525
01:10:23,052 --> 01:10:25,387
you will have equal rights,
federally,
1526
01:10:25,471 --> 01:10:27,514
across this great
nation of ours.
1527
01:10:27,598 --> 01:10:30,559
(applause, cheering)
1528
01:10:30,643 --> 01:10:32,311
Thank you. Thank you.
1529
01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:35,606
And thank you, God,
for giving us Harvey Milk.
1530
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:38,108
Lance took that spotlight
and he just targeted
1531
01:10:38,192 --> 01:10:40,277
what he wanted to say
to young gays and lesbians
1532
01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:41,779
and it will never be forgotten.
1533
01:10:41,862 --> 01:10:45,115
Millions and millions
of gay kids who were
like Lance,
1534
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,077
just a few years
out of elementary school,
1535
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,620
who saw that and felt seen,
1536
01:10:49,703 --> 01:10:51,956
and felt heard,
and felt comforted.
1537
01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:53,958
Chad Griffin:
The timing of Lance's
Academy speech
1538
01:10:54,041 --> 01:10:57,169
was critically important
'cause it came only months
1539
01:10:57,252 --> 01:11:00,756
after Proposition 8, uh,
had passed in California.
1540
01:11:00,839 --> 01:11:03,842
A ballot measure took away
the fundamental right
1541
01:11:03,926 --> 01:11:05,886
for LGBTQ people to marry.
1542
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:08,764
And sent a terrible
and dangerous message
1543
01:11:08,847 --> 01:11:11,850
to young people all around,
not just the state
of California,
1544
01:11:11,934 --> 01:11:14,395
but all around the country
and the globe.
1545
01:11:14,478 --> 01:11:18,315
The battle tonight
has been won.
1546
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:19,358
(crowd cheering)
1547
01:11:19,441 --> 01:11:21,151
Reporter:
Supporters of Proposition 8,
1548
01:11:21,235 --> 01:11:23,654
which bans same-sex marriage,
claim victory.
1549
01:11:23,737 --> 01:11:25,823
It'd already been
a bruising campaign.
1550
01:11:25,906 --> 01:11:29,660
Together, both sides
raised more than $70 million
1551
01:11:29,743 --> 01:11:32,788
making Prop 8 more expensive
than any contest
1552
01:11:32,871 --> 01:11:34,581
other than
the presidential race.
1553
01:11:34,665 --> 01:11:36,625
Dustin:
And shortly after Prop 8
was passed ,
1554
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:38,877
I'd gotten up
and made a promise.
1555
01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:40,546
And my mother had reminded me,
1556
01:11:40,629 --> 01:11:42,172
in her conservative
Christian way,
1557
01:11:42,256 --> 01:11:43,966
that a promise
is a sacred thing
1558
01:11:44,049 --> 01:11:47,511
and I had a responsibility
to fulfill it.
1559
01:11:47,594 --> 01:11:50,264
And for the next
five, six years,
1560
01:11:50,347 --> 01:11:52,433
I stopped focusing
on making movies.
1561
01:11:52,516 --> 01:11:54,893
All of my attention went into
1562
01:11:54,977 --> 01:11:58,981
how do we reverse
Proposition 8 in California
1563
01:11:59,064 --> 01:12:02,943
and to do it in a way
where there's hope
1564
01:12:03,027 --> 01:12:06,905
that that decision
might apply to all 50 states.
1565
01:12:06,989 --> 01:12:08,949
'Cause if we won
at the federal level,
1566
01:12:09,033 --> 01:12:12,036
I get to celebrate
and so does my brother.
1567
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:14,496
Chad:
Lance and I began
plotting the path.
1568
01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:16,582
How do we deliver
on that promise
1569
01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:19,251
that Lance made
on the global stage?
1570
01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:22,921
We ultimately decided
that a legal case
1571
01:12:23,005 --> 01:12:25,215
suing the state of California,
1572
01:12:25,299 --> 01:12:29,136
putting together
two of the best attorneys
in the country,
1573
01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:32,473
a conservative Republican
and a progressive Democrat.
1574
01:12:32,556 --> 01:12:33,807
And throughout that time,
1575
01:12:33,891 --> 01:12:36,560
while the lawyers
were working in the courtroom,
1576
01:12:36,643 --> 01:12:38,854
Lance was working
day in and day out
1577
01:12:38,937 --> 01:12:41,857
in the public square
to change hearts and minds
1578
01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:43,859
as that case rose all the way
1579
01:12:43,942 --> 01:12:46,028
to the United States
Supreme Court.
1580
01:12:46,111 --> 01:12:49,239
We pledge our allegiance
to one America,
1581
01:12:49,323 --> 01:12:51,950
not a red America
or a blue America,
1582
01:12:52,034 --> 01:12:54,578
a northern America
or a southern America.
1583
01:12:54,661 --> 01:12:57,956
We pledge our allegiance
to one America under God
1584
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,293
indivisible with liberty
and justice for all.
1585
01:13:01,376 --> 01:13:03,462
'Cause we, as a people...
1586
01:13:03,545 --> 01:13:07,508
we do not leave
a single one of our brothers
or our sisters behind,
1587
01:13:07,591 --> 01:13:10,344
no matter who they love
or where they live.
1588
01:13:10,427 --> 01:13:12,012
Troy Williams:
We thought, if California,
1589
01:13:12,096 --> 01:13:15,849
the most progressive state
in the country
1590
01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:18,310
bans gay marriage,
1591
01:13:18,393 --> 01:13:21,355
there's no hope
for the rest of us.
1592
01:13:21,438 --> 01:13:24,608
And we discovered
that so much of the money
1593
01:13:24,691 --> 01:13:27,903
and the organizing
to pass Proposition 8
1594
01:13:27,986 --> 01:13:30,114
came from Utah directed by
1595
01:13:30,197 --> 01:13:32,616
The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints.
1596
01:13:32,699 --> 01:13:38,997
And this culture war
was ripping families apart.
1597
01:13:39,081 --> 01:13:40,082
Protestors: (chanting)
Equal rights!
1598
01:13:40,165 --> 01:13:41,875
Reporter:
From a PR perspective,
1599
01:13:41,959 --> 01:13:43,502
it's been a tough
couple of years
1600
01:13:43,585 --> 01:13:45,671
for The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints.
1601
01:13:45,754 --> 01:13:49,049
Recently, there have been
angry protests outside
Mormon temples
1602
01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:51,468
over the church's support
of Proposition 8.
1603
01:13:51,552 --> 01:13:54,179
Dustin:
Proposition 8 had passed
because of Mormon money.
1604
01:13:54,263 --> 01:13:58,725
And I was now engaged
in a fight to overturn that.
1605
01:13:58,809 --> 01:14:01,019
What we have to do,
what we must do,
1606
01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:04,314
is hold the leaders
of these religions responsible
1607
01:14:04,398 --> 01:14:06,900
for the lies, and the myths,
and the distortions
1608
01:14:06,984 --> 01:14:08,485
they've been telling
for generations now
1609
01:14:08,569 --> 01:14:11,989
that have plagued our people,
and made us feel second-class,
1610
01:14:12,072 --> 01:14:14,825
and had robbed us
of our rights in this state.
1611
01:14:14,908 --> 01:14:16,201
And around this time,
1612
01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:18,954
I started to think perhaps
the way to crack things open
1613
01:14:19,037 --> 01:14:20,664
is to follow my mom's example.
1614
01:14:20,747 --> 01:14:23,167
My mom showed the courage
and the curiosity to meet
1615
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:24,668
with my friends in California,
1616
01:14:24,751 --> 01:14:26,545
people who she thought
and had been taught
1617
01:14:26,628 --> 01:14:28,338
were just too different
than her.
1618
01:14:28,422 --> 01:14:31,383
Now, wasn't it my obligation
to follow her example
1619
01:14:31,466 --> 01:14:34,011
and to travel back to my roots
to red America
1620
01:14:34,094 --> 01:14:37,681
and to sit down with the people
who I once called home?
1621
01:14:37,764 --> 01:14:40,893
And I got on a plane
and flew here to Salt Lake City
1622
01:14:40,976 --> 01:14:44,188
to meet with some leaders
from the Mormon church,
1623
01:14:44,271 --> 01:14:46,148
even when my queer
activist friends
1624
01:14:46,231 --> 01:14:49,359
began calling me foolish
for doing so.
1625
01:14:49,443 --> 01:14:52,321
And I went
into the Joseph Smith
Memorial Building
1626
01:14:52,404 --> 01:14:55,490
and, and sat around a table
with a lot of white-haired men
1627
01:14:55,574 --> 01:15:00,370
in a very pastel room
and we shared stories.
1628
01:15:00,454 --> 01:15:01,830
I followed my mother's example
1629
01:15:01,914 --> 01:15:03,832
and I asked 'em
about themselves.
1630
01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:05,292
I asked about their families.
1631
01:15:05,375 --> 01:15:06,919
I asked about their kids
and their grandkids.
1632
01:15:07,002 --> 01:15:08,837
And they were really happy
to share all that.
1633
01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:11,882
And because of that,
they asked about me.
1634
01:15:11,965 --> 01:15:15,761
And they even invited me
to the Mormon Tabernacle
Christmas Spectacular,
1635
01:15:15,844 --> 01:15:17,429
which is a hard ticket to get.
1636
01:15:17,512 --> 01:15:20,015
And I went with Troy
and some other queer people
1637
01:15:20,098 --> 01:15:21,975
right here
in Salt Lake City, Utah.
1638
01:15:22,059 --> 01:15:24,937
Reporter:
Black told ABC4
that it was an honor
1639
01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:30,150
to see the concert
and an extraordinary
act of goodwill.
1640
01:15:30,234 --> 01:15:33,570
He also told us
a conversation
has been started
1641
01:15:33,654 --> 01:15:36,323
between the gay community
and the church
1642
01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:37,699
and that, quote,
1643
01:15:37,783 --> 01:15:40,786
"Both sides are trying
to find common ground."
1644
01:15:40,869 --> 01:15:43,205
This is the power
my mom taught me.
1645
01:15:44,081 --> 01:15:45,874
Share space.
1646
01:15:45,958 --> 01:15:48,460
It does take courage.
1647
01:15:48,543 --> 01:15:51,505
And it can create change.
1648
01:15:51,588 --> 01:15:54,466
Troy:
It's really hard
to do this work.
1649
01:15:54,549 --> 01:15:56,301
It's not for everyone.
1650
01:15:56,385 --> 01:15:58,470
And when you make the choice
1651
01:15:58,554 --> 01:16:00,973
that you're gonna be
a bridge builder
1652
01:16:01,056 --> 01:16:03,308
from one tribe to another,
1653
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:05,269
it's not without consequences.
1654
01:16:05,352 --> 01:16:07,646
It takes tremendous courage
1655
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:10,941
to step out and reach out
to the other.
1656
01:16:11,024 --> 01:16:14,236
Dustin:
Within a year or two
after that first
1657
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,405
breaking of the ice
with the Mormon church,
1658
01:16:16,488 --> 01:16:17,781
to start that conversation,
1659
01:16:17,864 --> 01:16:19,992
Troy Williams called me up
and said, "Would you come
1660
01:16:20,075 --> 01:16:23,203
and be the Grand Marshal
of Salt Lake City Pride?"
1661
01:16:23,287 --> 01:16:24,955
First of all, I couldn't believe
there was such a thing
1662
01:16:25,038 --> 01:16:27,874
as Salt Lake City Pride.
That blew my mind.
1663
01:16:27,958 --> 01:16:30,168
And so, I agreed to be
the Grand Marshal at the parade
1664
01:16:30,252 --> 01:16:34,006
as long as it was
a bridge-building opportunity.
1665
01:16:34,089 --> 01:16:37,175
Troy:
In 2012, something
significant happened.
1666
01:16:37,259 --> 01:16:39,011
A group of Latter-day Saints
1667
01:16:39,094 --> 01:16:41,972
callin' themselves
Mormons Building Bridges,
they called me up.
1668
01:16:42,055 --> 01:16:45,100
They said,
"We're gonna come march
in the Pride parade
1669
01:16:45,183 --> 01:16:47,060
"and we're gonna wear
our Sunday clothes
1670
01:16:47,144 --> 01:16:48,895
"and were gonna sing hymns
1671
01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:51,940
all the way down
the parade route."
1672
01:16:52,024 --> 01:16:56,570
And I was like,
"Have any of you ever been
to a Gay Pride parade before?"
1673
01:16:56,653 --> 01:16:58,780
Dustin:
And then it's, like,
hard to beli--
1674
01:16:58,864 --> 01:17:01,408
If there weren't
pictures of it,
I couldn't believe it.
1675
01:17:01,491 --> 01:17:06,496
Dozens upon dozens upon dozens
of active LDS folks
1676
01:17:06,580 --> 01:17:08,957
started to show up
1677
01:17:09,041 --> 01:17:10,459
enjoying the parade,
1678
01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:14,588
marching in solidarity
with queer people here in Utah.
1679
01:17:14,671 --> 01:17:17,382
And when they brought
their banner out
1680
01:17:17,466 --> 01:17:21,136
and it said,
"Mormons Building Bridges,"
1681
01:17:21,219 --> 01:17:23,680
I felt my mother's spirit.
1682
01:17:23,764 --> 01:17:26,350
Troy:
Three hundred active members
1683
01:17:26,433 --> 01:17:29,853
of the church showed up
with their signs.
1684
01:17:29,936 --> 01:17:32,522
"LDS hearts LGBT."
1685
01:17:32,606 --> 01:17:34,983
One sign said,
"Sorry, I'm late."
1686
01:17:35,067 --> 01:17:38,320
And that moment
changed everything for me
1687
01:17:38,403 --> 01:17:40,739
because I realized
the way forward,
1688
01:17:40,822 --> 01:17:42,866
the way we create change,
1689
01:17:42,949 --> 01:17:44,659
is through love.
1690
01:17:44,743 --> 01:17:48,538
Dustin: That image ended up
on newspapers around the world.
1691
01:17:48,622 --> 01:17:51,249
It shattered something.
It shattered an idea
1692
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:55,462
that we could not
come together.
1693
01:17:55,545 --> 01:17:57,798
You know,
and of course, this wasn't
Mormon leadership yet.
1694
01:17:57,881 --> 01:18:01,843
These are rank-and-file Mormons
and, honestly, they have power.
1695
01:18:01,927 --> 01:18:04,054
And a lot of these
Mormon mothers
1696
01:18:04,137 --> 01:18:05,639
started sharing
their own stories.
1697
01:18:05,722 --> 01:18:08,433
And because they could now
communicate with one another,
1698
01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:10,143
they saw they weren't alone.
1699
01:18:10,227 --> 01:18:12,312
They were able
to start to organize.
1700
01:18:12,396 --> 01:18:15,732
And they called themselves
the "Mama Dragons."
1701
01:18:15,816 --> 01:18:20,904
Active LDS mothers who will
protect their queer children
1702
01:18:20,987 --> 01:18:22,864
with the fierceness of a dragon.
1703
01:18:22,948 --> 01:18:27,452
I feel certain that we can win
our full equality in Utah.
1704
01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:31,039
And I know that if we
redouble our efforts here
1705
01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:33,166
and we give 110%,
1706
01:18:33,250 --> 01:18:34,459
I know in my heart,
1707
01:18:34,543 --> 01:18:37,504
in our lifetime,
we will win full equality
1708
01:18:37,587 --> 01:18:39,631
in all matters
governed by civil law
1709
01:18:39,714 --> 01:18:42,509
in all 50 states
of this great nation.
1710
01:18:42,592 --> 01:18:44,636
And we will be free.
1711
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:47,013
Troy:
Lance was one
of the major forces
1712
01:18:47,097 --> 01:18:49,975
that helped overturn
Proposition 8 in California.
1713
01:18:50,058 --> 01:18:52,728
And his style
of bridge-building activism
1714
01:18:52,811 --> 01:18:55,355
energized us
in the final years
1715
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,817
leading up to marriage equality
becoming the law of the land.
1716
01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:00,902
The Supreme Court
of the United States
1717
01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:03,113
found gay
and lesbian Americans
1718
01:19:03,196 --> 01:19:06,241
have a constitutional right
to marry.
1719
01:19:06,324 --> 01:19:08,910
Cheers shook
the courthouse steps.
1720
01:19:08,994 --> 01:19:11,580
Licenses were issued
and weddings performed
1721
01:19:11,663 --> 01:19:14,958
in states where such
marriages were outlawed.
1722
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:18,462
Dustin: I'll never forget
sitting in the United States
Supreme Court
1723
01:19:18,545 --> 01:19:22,007
and it wasn't the decision
that would come months later
1724
01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:24,593
that told me we'd won.
It was a question.
1725
01:19:24,676 --> 01:19:28,180
The swing vote
on the Supreme Court
was Justice Kennedy.
1726
01:19:28,263 --> 01:19:31,349
And Justice Kennedy,
at one point, leaned in
1727
01:19:31,433 --> 01:19:33,894
and said, "The opposition
to LGBT equality
1728
01:19:33,977 --> 01:19:37,022
"likes to talk a lot
about how this hurts children,
1729
01:19:37,105 --> 01:19:41,151
"but there are
thousands of children
1730
01:19:41,234 --> 01:19:44,112
"of gay and lesbian
parents out there
1731
01:19:44,196 --> 01:19:46,490
"who would like to know
that their parents'
relationships
1732
01:19:46,573 --> 01:19:48,658
"are equally honored
and protected.
1733
01:19:48,742 --> 01:19:52,496
"Why would we not
protect those children
1734
01:19:52,579 --> 01:19:55,373
by granting them what
we grant heterosexuals?"
1735
01:19:55,457 --> 01:19:59,711
He understood
that by discriminating
against queer people,
1736
01:19:59,795 --> 01:20:02,047
that's what actually
hurts children.
1737
01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:04,966
And all I wanted
was to reach into my pocket
1738
01:20:05,050 --> 01:20:07,886
and pull out my cell phone
and to call my big brother,
1739
01:20:07,969 --> 01:20:10,889
to call Marcus and say,
"Listen, bro, we did it.
1740
01:20:10,972 --> 01:20:14,059
It took all of these years,
but we made it there."
1741
01:20:14,142 --> 01:20:17,062
I know there's a lot
of other issues for LGBTQ folks,
1742
01:20:17,145 --> 01:20:21,191
but for the first time,
we are going to have a decision
1743
01:20:21,274 --> 01:20:23,235
that applies,
not only to California,
1744
01:20:23,318 --> 01:20:26,988
but to Virginia and Texas
and Michigan and the states
1745
01:20:27,072 --> 01:20:29,866
that he loved
and wanted to call home.
1746
01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:31,993
But I couldn't make that call
1747
01:20:32,077 --> 01:20:34,496
'cause my brother was gone.
1748
01:20:39,125 --> 01:20:43,922
-Dustin: Hi, Mother.
-Uh, oh no. No. I'm a wreck.
1749
01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:45,757
Dustin: Too late, it's video.
1750
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,509
And, Jeff, what is your job?
1751
01:20:47,592 --> 01:20:48,718
-Bumble.
-Dustin: Yeah.
1752
01:20:48,802 --> 01:20:50,971
Grinch, whatever.
1753
01:20:51,054 --> 01:20:53,557
I don't have a job.
I'm unemployed.
1754
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,309
-Dustin: What are the rules?
-No rules.
1755
01:20:56,393 --> 01:20:59,187
Dustin:
No! Only when the camera's on.
1756
01:20:59,271 --> 01:21:01,648
We don't, we don't, we don't
believe that for a moment.
1757
01:21:01,731 --> 01:21:06,570
Dustin: Hi! This morning,
look how pretty Allie's hair is.
1758
01:21:06,653 --> 01:21:09,155
She looks perfect, doesn't she?
1759
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:11,658
Allison Black:
The first Christmas
that I spent with them
1760
01:21:11,741 --> 01:21:13,660
was so special.
1761
01:21:13,743 --> 01:21:15,287
And I got to see
1762
01:21:15,370 --> 01:21:18,248
their traditions
at its most finest.
1763
01:21:18,331 --> 01:21:22,669
That family was
always thriving to have
the best Christmas ever.
1764
01:21:22,752 --> 01:21:25,630
Lance was the older brother
for me that makes fun of me
1765
01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:28,717
and that knows
how to push my buttons.
1766
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,720
And Marcus was always
the one that had my back.
1767
01:21:31,803 --> 01:21:33,763
He was that protective
older brother.
1768
01:21:33,847 --> 01:21:37,517
And I got very close
to Anne very quickly.
1769
01:21:37,601 --> 01:21:39,978
She was always
so accepting and loving
1770
01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:41,938
and I wish I knew then
that that was gonna be
1771
01:21:42,022 --> 01:21:44,608
the last Christmas
that was normal
1772
01:21:44,691 --> 01:21:47,068
because exactly a year later
1773
01:21:47,152 --> 01:21:49,321
was when Marcus was really sick.
1774
01:21:49,404 --> 01:21:52,240
-Fuck 2011.
-(Allison laughs)
1775
01:21:52,324 --> 01:21:55,160
Allison:
Say your lovely name for me.
1776
01:21:55,243 --> 01:21:56,745
(Allison laughing)
1777
01:21:56,828 --> 01:22:01,333
-Mr. Marcus Black
says, "Fuck 2011."
-Allison: Woo.
1778
01:22:01,416 --> 01:22:04,794
Dustin:
He started to have a burning
sensation when he urinated
1779
01:22:04,878 --> 01:22:08,590
and then instead of
just going to the doctor
and dealing with it,
1780
01:22:08,673 --> 01:22:09,841
you know, out of shame
1781
01:22:09,924 --> 01:22:12,510
and the fact
that he was broke,
1782
01:22:12,594 --> 01:22:14,554
he just kept putting it off.
1783
01:22:14,638 --> 01:22:16,181
And so, when the doctors
finally saw him,
1784
01:22:16,264 --> 01:22:19,309
when he finally got up
the courage to go in,
they did a scan
1785
01:22:19,392 --> 01:22:22,187
and saw that there was
a growth in his bladder.
1786
01:22:22,270 --> 01:22:23,521
They did a proper analysis
1787
01:22:23,605 --> 01:22:25,857
and said,
"Yeah, you have cancer.
1788
01:22:25,940 --> 01:22:28,818
And it's bad
and it's aggressive."
1789
01:22:28,902 --> 01:22:32,030
And then he said,
"Oh, my back is really hurting."
1790
01:22:32,113 --> 01:22:35,617
And, um... within days,
1791
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,079
he found out that it
had spread to his bone.
1792
01:22:39,162 --> 01:22:42,457
And I got to Michigan
to find my brother
1793
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,210
in an incredibly
desperate state.
1794
01:22:45,293 --> 01:22:48,963
His partner, at the time,
was not taking care of him.
1795
01:22:49,047 --> 01:22:51,174
The house
was a disastrous mess
1796
01:22:51,257 --> 01:22:54,719
and he had degraded
so much in those weeks,
1797
01:22:54,803 --> 01:22:57,597
he was almost unrecognizable.
1798
01:22:57,681 --> 01:22:59,849
My brother is
a hippie right now.
1799
01:22:59,933 --> 01:23:02,394
And I'm gonna use
kitchen shears to cut
the hippie's hair.
1800
01:23:02,477 --> 01:23:04,104
In fact, I'd cut his hair.
1801
01:23:04,187 --> 01:23:05,730
I'd never really cut
anyone's hair
1802
01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:09,651
but I did my very best
to get him looking good.
1803
01:23:11,778 --> 01:23:13,780
Christmas was
right around the corner
1804
01:23:13,863 --> 01:23:18,118
and I thought, we gotta
get him home to Virginia
in the dead of winter.
1805
01:23:18,201 --> 01:23:19,577
And I get ahold of Steve,
1806
01:23:19,661 --> 01:23:21,079
one of my big
brother's friends,
1807
01:23:21,162 --> 01:23:24,874
and I start packing stuff up
into my brother's truck.
1808
01:23:24,958 --> 01:23:26,543
What's that truck behind you?
1809
01:23:26,626 --> 01:23:29,129
-It's my moving truck.
-Dustin: Yeah.
1810
01:23:29,212 --> 01:23:30,880
-Where you goin'?
-To Virginia.
1811
01:23:30,964 --> 01:23:33,842
Dustin: We did that drive
over the course of a night,
1812
01:23:33,925 --> 01:23:35,301
a very, very long night.
1813
01:23:35,385 --> 01:23:37,011
Ah!
1814
01:23:37,095 --> 01:23:39,806
Dustin:
And we arrived in Virginia
1815
01:23:39,889 --> 01:23:42,434
at my mom's house
in the morning.
1816
01:23:42,517 --> 01:23:44,561
(indistinct chatter)
1817
01:23:44,644 --> 01:23:46,688
And that Christmas, we all
got together around the tree
1818
01:23:46,771 --> 01:23:48,148
and we opened presents.
1819
01:23:48,231 --> 01:23:51,067
Todd:
That's to barbecue in, right?
1820
01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:56,072
Dustin:
And my mom that year had
a fully restored 1967 Camaro
1821
01:23:56,156 --> 01:23:58,575
sitting in the garage
collecting dust
1822
01:23:58,658 --> 01:24:00,410
and she put the keys in a box
1823
01:24:00,493 --> 01:24:01,828
and she gave that
1824
01:24:01,911 --> 01:24:04,748
Camaro to my brother
as a Christmas present.
1825
01:24:04,831 --> 01:24:08,084
Let's see, Marcus. Hold it up.
1826
01:24:08,168 --> 01:24:11,337
The car he always
dreamed of was now his.
1827
01:24:11,421 --> 01:24:14,174
That's pretty cool, huh?
1828
01:24:14,257 --> 01:24:17,635
Jeff: For that one day,
having our family together,
1829
01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:20,430
it was like nobody was sick.
1830
01:24:20,513 --> 01:24:23,266
Everybody was fine.
1831
01:24:23,349 --> 01:24:25,018
And then, soon after that,
1832
01:24:25,101 --> 01:24:27,562
Marcus took a turn for the worse
1833
01:24:27,645 --> 01:24:31,816
and it was pretty clear
it wasn't gonna get any better.
1834
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:35,987
Dustin:
To see him in that condition
in our home was really tough.
1835
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:38,072
Before we knew it,
we're feeding him water
1836
01:24:38,156 --> 01:24:41,326
on, like, a little lollipop
with a sponge at the top
1837
01:24:41,409 --> 01:24:42,702
that you would dip in water
1838
01:24:42,786 --> 01:24:44,537
into his mouth
and he would suck the water
1839
01:24:44,621 --> 01:24:46,206
and that's really all
he could do,
1840
01:24:46,289 --> 01:24:48,583
and he couldn't
talk much anymore.
1841
01:24:48,666 --> 01:24:51,252
And Todd and I
were sitting there with him,
1842
01:24:51,336 --> 01:24:53,296
my mom and Jeff had gone to bed,
1843
01:24:53,379 --> 01:24:57,759
and we just were like,
"This isn't right.
This isn't Marcus."
1844
01:24:57,842 --> 01:25:01,095
And we had a tiny bottle
of Crown Royal... (sniffles)
1845
01:25:01,179 --> 01:25:02,931
and I was like,
"Hey, Marcus, you want
some Crown?"
1846
01:25:03,014 --> 01:25:04,682
And he was like...
1847
01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:06,893
That's about all he could do.
1848
01:25:06,976 --> 01:25:07,936
So, we dipped
that thing in there.
1849
01:25:08,019 --> 01:25:09,562
I'm like, "Here.
Giving you Crown."
1850
01:25:09,646 --> 01:25:10,897
And he's just like, "Yeah."
1851
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:14,067
And I was like,
I know what he wants
to listen to.
1852
01:25:14,150 --> 01:25:17,153
So I put on "Bitchin' Camaro"
from The Dead Milkmen.
1853
01:25:17,237 --> 01:25:18,822
And he started jamming out.
1854
01:25:18,905 --> 01:25:22,158
And I just grabbed his hand.
(sniffles)
1855
01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:25,370
(crying)
1856
01:25:27,789 --> 01:25:31,543
And just watched him go.
1857
01:25:31,626 --> 01:25:35,171
Dustin:
This kid had been beaten
to shit and back,
1858
01:25:35,255 --> 01:25:37,632
emotionally and physically.
1859
01:25:38,591 --> 01:25:40,927
And he had just figured it out.
1860
01:25:42,011 --> 01:25:44,138
He had just come out.
1861
01:25:44,222 --> 01:25:46,224
And by coming out,
he dropped the drugs,
1862
01:25:46,307 --> 01:25:49,394
he had gotten into school,
he was just living his life.
1863
01:25:49,477 --> 01:25:53,606
And he had said to me,
"I'm just gettin' started, bro."
1864
01:25:53,690 --> 01:25:55,692
Nannette:
Losing Marcus, I think,
1865
01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:58,486
was just so painful for Anne.
1866
01:25:58,570 --> 01:26:01,698
You don't ever
expect to lose...
1867
01:26:01,781 --> 01:26:04,242
a child first.
1868
01:26:04,325 --> 01:26:07,203
You don't expect
that to happen.
1869
01:26:07,287 --> 01:26:10,081
Jeff:
For a mother to lose her son,
1870
01:26:10,164 --> 01:26:15,170
a son that she fought so hard
to bring into the world.
1871
01:26:15,253 --> 01:26:18,089
She's like,
"Bring him back.
Bring him back."
1872
01:26:18,172 --> 01:26:21,467
It's like, "Well, we can't."
She was devastated.
1873
01:26:21,551 --> 01:26:23,887
(mournful music playing)
1874
01:26:29,893 --> 01:26:31,811
Dustin:
In the midst
of all of this grief,
1875
01:26:31,895 --> 01:26:37,066
I met this miraculous,
sparkling warrior of a man
1876
01:26:37,150 --> 01:26:39,152
and he was an Olympian.
1877
01:26:39,235 --> 01:26:40,737
He was a diver.
1878
01:26:40,820 --> 01:26:44,324
He just won his first
Olympic medal.
1879
01:26:44,407 --> 01:26:46,075
I had won an Oscar.
1880
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:49,996
He had just lost his father
and I had lost my brother.
1881
01:26:50,079 --> 01:26:53,416
Lance and I connected
on a much deeper level
1882
01:26:53,499 --> 01:26:56,127
than I ever have with anyone
in my life before.
1883
01:26:56,210 --> 01:27:00,131
There's not many people my age
that have experienced success
1884
01:27:00,214 --> 01:27:04,010
and then the crushing low
that comes with it afterwards.
1885
01:27:04,093 --> 01:27:06,054
People that have
experienced loss
1886
01:27:06,137 --> 01:27:07,931
in the way that myself
and Lance had.
1887
01:27:08,014 --> 01:27:11,684
I had lost my dad two years
prior to meeting Lance.
1888
01:27:11,768 --> 01:27:13,937
Lance had lost
his brother to cancer.
1889
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:16,314
So, we were able to connect
on such a deeper level
1890
01:27:16,397 --> 01:27:19,067
and be able to understand
each other way more than,
1891
01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:21,361
I think, we've been able
to understand anyone.
1892
01:27:21,444 --> 01:27:23,112
I'll forever be thankful
1893
01:27:23,196 --> 01:27:25,782
that he wanted to come
meet my family
1894
01:27:25,865 --> 01:27:28,534
and he came to Christmas.
1895
01:27:28,618 --> 01:27:31,287
Tom Daley:
I first met Lance's
mum in person
1896
01:27:31,371 --> 01:27:34,332
with Todd and Allie and Jeff
1897
01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:38,628
and we all had this
really beautiful time together.
1898
01:27:38,711 --> 01:27:42,674
And I can really see how Lance
became the way he is today.
1899
01:27:42,757 --> 01:27:45,927
Being able to spend that time
with her really gave me that,
1900
01:27:46,010 --> 01:27:49,681
wow, like, I understand Lance
in a whole different light now.
1901
01:27:49,764 --> 01:27:53,685
Dustin: At the time,
I didn't know what was to come.
1902
01:27:53,768 --> 01:27:56,479
But certainly, that Christmas,
1903
01:27:56,562 --> 01:27:58,314
knowing that my mom met
1904
01:27:58,398 --> 01:27:59,857
the man who would
become my husband
1905
01:27:59,941 --> 01:28:01,901
and the father of my children.
1906
01:28:01,985 --> 01:28:05,405
It's gotta rank as one
of the best Christmases ever.
1907
01:28:09,701 --> 01:28:11,828
(light music playing)
1908
01:28:29,971 --> 01:28:32,765
Looking at this picture,
this must be almost exactly
1909
01:28:32,849 --> 01:28:34,892
40 years ago.
1910
01:28:34,976 --> 01:28:38,563
My big brother
and my aunt Josie are gone.
1911
01:28:38,646 --> 01:28:42,025
But Todd and I are still here.
1912
01:28:42,108 --> 01:28:45,403
When I came out,
there would be
a really long time
1913
01:28:45,486 --> 01:28:47,488
that I thought
I wouldn't be accepted here
1914
01:28:47,572 --> 01:28:49,449
by the family in Texarkana,
1915
01:28:49,532 --> 01:28:53,161
in a corner of Texas
that's quite conservative.
1916
01:28:53,244 --> 01:28:55,705
Was it true that people
in different corners of America
1917
01:28:55,788 --> 01:28:58,499
are just too different
from one another?
1918
01:28:58,583 --> 01:29:01,544
And so, I did
what people do these days.
1919
01:29:01,627 --> 01:29:03,212
I just cut it off.
1920
01:29:03,296 --> 01:29:05,590
I'm gonna stick
with my people in California.
1921
01:29:05,673 --> 01:29:07,717
I don't have to deal
with the possibility
1922
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:12,388
of rejection by Josie
and this family who I loved.
1923
01:29:12,472 --> 01:29:13,723
I don't want them to reject me,
1924
01:29:13,806 --> 01:29:16,684
so it's better just to stay
quiet, stay away. And I did.
1925
01:29:16,768 --> 01:29:20,438
It would take that phone call
from my mom saying,
1926
01:29:20,521 --> 01:29:24,233
"Honey, your aunt Josie
passed away last night."
1927
01:29:24,317 --> 01:29:26,235
And, at this point,
my mom is so sick,
1928
01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:27,612
she can't get out of bed.
1929
01:29:27,695 --> 01:29:30,156
And Josie was like
my mom's second mom.
1930
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:33,034
She said,
"You gotta go there, Lancer.
1931
01:29:33,117 --> 01:29:35,078
You gotta be there for me."
1932
01:29:35,161 --> 01:29:38,414
And I was terrified
to come back here.
1933
01:29:38,498 --> 01:29:40,124
Perhaps the family member
I was most worried
1934
01:29:40,208 --> 01:29:42,043
about meeting
was my cousin Lynn.
1935
01:29:42,126 --> 01:29:45,546
Partly 'cause
I had admired him
so much as a little kid.
1936
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:47,882
But he was Baptist
and he was conservative.
1937
01:29:47,965 --> 01:29:49,133
He's from the South.
1938
01:29:49,217 --> 01:29:51,010
We were just so
incredibly different
1939
01:29:51,094 --> 01:29:53,513
and I didn't want him
to reject me.
1940
01:29:53,596 --> 01:29:55,223
And I called
my little brother Todd up
1941
01:29:55,306 --> 01:29:56,849
and I said,
"Would you come with me?"
1942
01:29:56,933 --> 01:29:59,102
Thank God he said yes.
1943
01:30:02,688 --> 01:30:07,110
And I'll never forget walking
back in through that door
1944
01:30:07,193 --> 01:30:09,445
30-plus years later.
1945
01:30:09,529 --> 01:30:11,572
It was like I'd never left.
1946
01:30:11,656 --> 01:30:15,993
-Lynn: Oh, look who showed up.
-Deborah: Oh. Hi! Finally!
1947
01:30:16,077 --> 01:30:18,079
Hey, hey!
(laughing)
1948
01:30:18,162 --> 01:30:19,789
I haven't seen you
in a while.
1949
01:30:19,872 --> 01:30:22,917
Lynn:
Yeah, I had not seen Lance
since he was a little kid,
1950
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,169
but we knew he was,
1951
01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:27,130
you know, a famous screenwriter.
1952
01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:28,840
We knew he had won a Oscar.
1953
01:30:28,923 --> 01:30:31,217
We knew he was
a gay rights activist.
1954
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:34,387
And he came in
for my mom's funeral.
1955
01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:38,224
And him and Todd showed up
out of respect for my mom.
1956
01:30:38,307 --> 01:30:41,018
But, yeah, I was
surprised to see him.
1957
01:30:41,102 --> 01:30:42,311
Dustin:
It's hard to think of now
1958
01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:43,855
'cause now we talk on Facebook
and whatever,
1959
01:30:43,938 --> 01:30:45,481
-make jokes,
but, like, at the time...
-Oh, yeah, yeah.
1960
01:30:45,565 --> 01:30:47,817
...I was terrified of you.
I was here for your mom
1961
01:30:47,900 --> 01:30:49,819
and I was terrified
of everything else.
1962
01:30:49,902 --> 01:30:50,987
And in the end,
1963
01:30:51,070 --> 01:30:53,281
I loved to be here for your mom,
1964
01:30:53,364 --> 01:30:55,616
really for my mom
who wanted me here.
1965
01:30:55,700 --> 01:30:58,578
But I just thought
that this part of my history
was history, right?
1966
01:30:58,661 --> 01:31:00,204
I just thought--
'Cause, you know, you--
1967
01:31:00,288 --> 01:31:02,456
I, I, I had to go somewhere
where I didn't feel like
1968
01:31:02,540 --> 01:31:04,500
I was gonna get killed
or have to kill myself.
1969
01:31:04,584 --> 01:31:08,462
Lynn: Yeah, I think
my opinions and my views
had changed dramatically
1970
01:31:08,546 --> 01:31:10,548
-from what you knew of me.
-Yeah.
1971
01:31:10,631 --> 01:31:12,466
'Cause before, you know,
1972
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:15,136
when I was a kid,
I had different attitude.
1973
01:31:15,219 --> 01:31:16,721
-Right.
-And...
1974
01:31:16,804 --> 01:31:18,723
maybe then I wouldn't
have accepted you.
1975
01:31:18,806 --> 01:31:21,559
But I'd already accepted you
before you got here.
1976
01:31:21,642 --> 01:31:23,478
-You just didn't know.
-Right.
1977
01:31:23,561 --> 01:31:26,647
Well, one day,
I might accept you, too.
One day. (laughs)
1978
01:31:26,731 --> 01:31:28,983
Lynn:
Growin' up, I had
a different attitude
1979
01:31:29,066 --> 01:31:31,444
about gay people.
I really did.
1980
01:31:31,527 --> 01:31:33,863
I mean, when I was younger,
I was just a wild redneck.
1981
01:31:33,946 --> 01:31:36,490
If you was gay
I, I didn't want nothin'
to do with you.
1982
01:31:36,574 --> 01:31:40,161
But Lance helped me
with that a lot,
him being gay.
1983
01:31:40,244 --> 01:31:43,331
Then I met other people
that were gay, and, you know,
1984
01:31:43,414 --> 01:31:45,249
they were good friends,
they were normal people.
1985
01:31:45,333 --> 01:31:46,542
It wasn't like
1986
01:31:46,626 --> 01:31:49,545
what I had in my brain
or as I was raised.
1987
01:31:49,629 --> 01:31:51,756
Like I said,
I was raised Southern Baptist,
1988
01:31:51,839 --> 01:31:54,717
but now I'm more spiritual
and I believe
1989
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,511
it's, it's all
between you and God.
1990
01:31:57,595 --> 01:31:59,597
Dustin:
You know, that was the thing
my mom was getting
1991
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,933
really worried about years ago,
1992
01:32:02,016 --> 01:32:03,559
was it's getting
harder and harder
1993
01:32:03,643 --> 01:32:05,811
to get in the same room
with people you once loved
1994
01:32:05,895 --> 01:32:07,813
but now disagree with.
And people just are like,
1995
01:32:07,897 --> 01:32:10,107
"You know what,
I just don't want--
I won't even go in the room."
1996
01:32:10,191 --> 01:32:12,985
Like, "I'll just avoid the room
'cause it's uncomfortable."
1997
01:32:13,069 --> 01:32:14,320
I didn't care who you voted for.
1998
01:32:14,403 --> 01:32:17,240
I just knew, you know,
I had a really hot cousin.
1999
01:32:17,323 --> 01:32:18,824
(laughing)
2000
01:32:18,908 --> 01:32:20,993
Yeah, we live
in different places
2001
01:32:21,077 --> 01:32:22,912
and we believe
in different things
2002
01:32:22,995 --> 01:32:25,289
and we vote in different ways.
2003
01:32:25,373 --> 01:32:27,124
But blood's thicker.
2004
01:32:27,208 --> 01:32:28,334
I was family.
2005
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:31,128
Politics is important.
2006
01:32:31,212 --> 01:32:33,631
It builds the systems
we live within.
2007
01:32:33,714 --> 01:32:36,300
But how can politics
ever be good
2008
01:32:36,384 --> 01:32:41,681
and serve our families
if we don't put family first?
2009
01:32:42,807 --> 01:32:45,059
Donna:
I had a phone call with Anne,
2010
01:32:45,142 --> 01:32:46,519
as I look back on it,
2011
01:32:46,602 --> 01:32:50,064
and I remember sensing
that she was saying goodbye.
2012
01:32:50,147 --> 01:32:52,024
We didn't say
officially goodbye,
2013
01:32:52,108 --> 01:32:55,403
but it was as if I was saying
a blessing over her life
2014
01:32:55,486 --> 01:32:57,738
and she was expressing
love to me.
2015
01:32:57,822 --> 01:32:59,448
Dustin:
My mom had beaten cancer,
2016
01:32:59,532 --> 01:33:02,535
but she was having
every other reaction there is.
2017
01:33:02,618 --> 01:33:04,954
And so, I said,
"Well, I'm gonna celebrate
2018
01:33:05,037 --> 01:33:07,957
turning 40 with my mom
in gratitude."
2019
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,792
Really flew in, taking a stop--
2020
01:33:09,875 --> 01:33:11,836
I'm n-- I was supposed
to be going to London,
2021
01:33:11,919 --> 01:33:13,504
but I was like,
"No, no, no, wait.
2022
01:33:13,587 --> 01:33:15,548
I'm stopping in
to see my mom first."
2023
01:33:15,631 --> 01:33:18,175
And so, I went
to the house in Virginia
2024
01:33:18,259 --> 01:33:19,927
and we exchanged gifts
and we have cake
2025
01:33:20,011 --> 01:33:21,929
and my mom
just wasn't feeling well.
2026
01:33:22,013 --> 01:33:24,098
I said, "Mom, you gotta go,
just go to the doctor.
2027
01:33:24,181 --> 01:33:25,266
Just go get checked up."
2028
01:33:25,349 --> 01:33:28,352
And she said,
"All right, Lancer," um...
2029
01:33:28,436 --> 01:33:30,021
"help me get dressed."
2030
01:33:30,104 --> 01:33:32,481
And I remember as I was...
2031
01:33:32,565 --> 01:33:34,859
putting one of the, the socks
onto her feet
2032
01:33:34,942 --> 01:33:36,569
and she looked me
right in the eye
2033
01:33:36,652 --> 01:33:39,905
and she said,
"Fight for my life."
2034
01:33:39,989 --> 01:33:43,284
And I tried to laugh.
Like, "Okay."
2035
01:33:43,367 --> 01:33:47,288
And she said, "No, I need
you to fight for my life.
2036
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,583
Promise me."
2037
01:33:50,666 --> 01:33:52,209
And so, I said,
"I promise you, Mom.
2038
01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:55,421
"I, I promise I'll fight
for your life, of course.
2039
01:33:55,504 --> 01:33:57,882
"If you need me to turn around
on the way, just call me.
2040
01:33:57,965 --> 01:33:59,759
I'll come right back.
It's fine."
2041
01:33:59,842 --> 01:34:02,428
I remember it so clearly
2042
01:34:02,511 --> 01:34:04,847
because Lance and I
hadn't seen each other
2043
01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:06,557
for about three or four weeks.
2044
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:12,730
And it was a day that he was
coming back to see me in London.
2045
01:34:12,813 --> 01:34:16,359
We wish Lance farewell
and he takes off in the taxi.
2046
01:34:16,442 --> 01:34:20,613
Uh, carrying Anne downstairs
and get her into the car
2047
01:34:20,696 --> 01:34:24,033
and her last words were
to me, "Please hurry."
2048
01:34:24,116 --> 01:34:28,245
So, I turn around... to go back
to the house to close the door
2049
01:34:28,329 --> 01:34:31,374
and when I turn around,
she was slumped over in the car.
2050
01:34:31,457 --> 01:34:33,542
I got her out of the car.
She's not breathing.
2051
01:34:33,626 --> 01:34:36,128
There's no heartbeat.
I called 911.
2052
01:34:36,212 --> 01:34:37,963
I was doing CPR.
2053
01:34:38,047 --> 01:34:41,509
After the paramedics got there,
I called Lance and I said,
2054
01:34:41,592 --> 01:34:45,096
"I need you to come back.
Something horrible's happened."
2055
01:34:45,179 --> 01:34:47,890
When he was
on the way to the airport,
2056
01:34:47,973 --> 01:34:51,102
he texts me sayin',
"I have to go back.
My mom's collapsed."
2057
01:34:51,185 --> 01:34:52,812
I looked up
into the rearview mirror
2058
01:34:52,895 --> 01:34:55,231
and I just told that cab driver
he had to turn the car around.
2059
01:34:55,314 --> 01:34:59,527
And we got to the hospital
and I rush into the room.
2060
01:34:59,610 --> 01:35:01,278
And there she is
and she's conscious
2061
01:35:01,362 --> 01:35:04,407
and her eyes are
wide open staring at me.
2062
01:35:04,490 --> 01:35:08,077
And I'm thinking in my head
what she's tasked me with,
2063
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,537
to fight for her life.
2064
01:35:10,955 --> 01:35:12,540
Todd: (crying)
You see a woman that's
2065
01:35:12,623 --> 01:35:15,209
you've known nothing
but can fight...
2066
01:35:15,292 --> 01:35:18,129
fight, fight her whole life.
2067
01:35:18,212 --> 01:35:21,173
And to see her energy
getting sucked out...
2068
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:26,053
She fought harder
than anything to deserve this.
2069
01:35:28,889 --> 01:35:30,599
(sniffles)
2070
01:35:30,683 --> 01:35:33,686
It was the hardest thing.
2071
01:35:33,769 --> 01:35:38,315
My brother was holding her hand
and Jeff was touching her hair.
2072
01:35:38,399 --> 01:35:40,276
And I leaned into her ear.
2073
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:42,403
I said to her...
2074
01:35:42,486 --> 01:35:46,323
"We're gonna be okay.
I'm gonna be okay.
2075
01:35:47,658 --> 01:35:52,496
"Fly. You can fly now...
You can walk.
2076
01:35:53,789 --> 01:35:56,333
"You've built us strong.
2077
01:35:56,417 --> 01:35:59,670
We'll survive
and we'll be okay."
2078
01:36:01,255 --> 01:36:03,340
She flew away.
2079
01:36:05,342 --> 01:36:09,430
The person
with the strongest heart
I'd ever known
2080
01:36:09,513 --> 01:36:12,725
had asked me
to fight for her life.
2081
01:36:13,934 --> 01:36:15,936
And I had failed her.
2082
01:36:16,020 --> 01:36:18,063
โช โช
2083
01:36:23,777 --> 01:36:26,155
Ryan:
At this point, I was
already living in Seattle
2084
01:36:26,238 --> 01:36:29,241
and, uh... I got a call
from a friend of mine
2085
01:36:29,325 --> 01:36:31,660
and he's like, you know,
"Lance is not doing well."
2086
01:36:31,744 --> 01:36:33,496
And so, I called him
and Lance didn't respond,
2087
01:36:33,579 --> 01:36:35,581
so I immediately got on a plane
2088
01:36:35,664 --> 01:36:39,210
and, yeah, he was
in a really dark place
2089
01:36:39,293 --> 01:36:40,628
after she'd passed away.
2090
01:36:40,711 --> 01:36:42,046
And to the point where
2091
01:36:42,129 --> 01:36:45,090
he didn't know
what made sense to him,
2092
01:36:45,174 --> 01:36:47,718
why it happened.
2093
01:36:47,801 --> 01:36:50,012
You know, he felt very lost.
2094
01:36:50,095 --> 01:36:52,223
(ambient nature sounds)
2095
01:37:00,606 --> 01:37:02,691
(birds chirping)
2096
01:37:11,158 --> 01:37:15,454
Dustin:
In all of my guilt and shame,
I just got busy.
2097
01:37:17,039 --> 01:37:18,457
She wanted to be buried,
2098
01:37:18,541 --> 01:37:22,545
so I needed to get
her next to her eldest son.
2099
01:37:22,628 --> 01:37:24,922
We buried Marcus in California
'cause that was the plan.
2100
01:37:25,005 --> 01:37:29,385
We were all moving back
to California to be close
to each other one day.
2101
01:37:30,469 --> 01:37:32,012
But there was
one other thing
2102
01:37:32,096 --> 01:37:33,597
that was incredibly
complicated for me,
2103
01:37:33,681 --> 01:37:35,307
which is my mom was not
2104
01:37:35,391 --> 01:37:36,767
a member of any faith anymore,
2105
01:37:36,850 --> 01:37:39,937
but she was still
incredibly faithful.
2106
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:42,565
So, who do you have
run that ceremony?
2107
01:37:42,648 --> 01:37:45,526
And I call up
Bishop Gene Robinson
2108
01:37:45,609 --> 01:37:49,071
who had been
integral in our fight
against Proposition 8
2109
01:37:49,154 --> 01:37:51,615
and he was the first
openly gay bishop
2110
01:37:51,699 --> 01:37:53,450
ordained
in the Episcopal Church.
2111
01:37:53,534 --> 01:37:56,203
And that night--
And he could clearly tell
that there was something
2112
01:37:56,287 --> 01:37:57,913
really weighing on me
that went beyond
2113
01:37:57,997 --> 01:37:59,456
just the loss of my mother.
2114
01:37:59,540 --> 01:38:02,418
And it was the first time
I admitted that
2115
01:38:02,501 --> 01:38:05,629
my mother had made me promise
to fight for her life
2116
01:38:05,713 --> 01:38:07,298
and I'd failed.
2117
01:38:07,381 --> 01:38:10,301
He said, "Tell me what
your mother's life was."
2118
01:38:10,384 --> 01:38:13,429
And I said,
"Well, you know, my mom was
2119
01:38:13,512 --> 01:38:15,514
"this incredibly strong kid
2120
01:38:15,598 --> 01:38:18,684
"who... when she was told
what was impossible
2121
01:38:18,767 --> 01:38:21,061
she just didn't accept it."
She just decided,
2122
01:38:21,145 --> 01:38:23,314
"Well, this is what I want,
so I wanna have a family,
2123
01:38:23,397 --> 01:38:25,024
and I wanna have kids,
and a good job,"
2124
01:38:25,107 --> 01:38:27,401
and all the things that she'd
been told she couldn't have.
2125
01:38:27,484 --> 01:38:31,614
And she showed the curiosity
to listen more than she spoke.
2126
01:38:31,697 --> 01:38:34,617
My mom believed it was
incredibly important
2127
01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:36,493
to keep
relationships together,
2128
01:38:36,577 --> 01:38:37,661
to keep friendships together,
2129
01:38:37,745 --> 01:38:40,539
communities
and country together.
2130
01:38:40,623 --> 01:38:46,503
Courage... curiosity...
bridge-building,
2131
01:38:46,587 --> 01:38:48,839
that was my mom.
2132
01:38:48,922 --> 01:38:52,384
He said, "Your mom knew
what was happening to her.
2133
01:38:52,468 --> 01:38:56,347
"But she gave you a mission
and you promised to keep it
2134
01:38:56,430 --> 01:38:58,849
"and it was
to fight for her life.
2135
01:38:58,932 --> 01:39:00,351
"And you just said her life
2136
01:39:00,434 --> 01:39:02,478
"is about having the courage
2137
01:39:02,561 --> 01:39:07,191
"to not accept no,
to fight for the yeses,
2138
01:39:07,274 --> 01:39:09,151
"to fight for the possibility
to fall in love,
2139
01:39:09,234 --> 01:39:11,904
"and to have a family,
if that's what you want.
2140
01:39:13,572 --> 01:39:16,825
"And to not accept the lie
that our corners of the country
2141
01:39:16,909 --> 01:39:18,994
"are just too different
from one another,
2142
01:39:19,078 --> 01:39:20,621
"to show the courage to show up
2143
01:39:20,704 --> 01:39:21,997
"and meet people
who are different,
2144
01:39:22,081 --> 01:39:25,626
"to have the curiosity
to listen more than you speak,
2145
01:39:25,709 --> 01:39:27,419
"even when it's difficult.
2146
01:39:27,503 --> 01:39:29,505
"To do the hard work
to build bridges
2147
01:39:29,588 --> 01:39:35,219
"that keep family and community
and country together.
2148
01:39:35,302 --> 01:39:39,932
"Your mom gave you a mission
to fight for her life.
2149
01:39:40,015 --> 01:39:42,434
"And if you say a promise is
a sacred thing in your family,
2150
01:39:42,518 --> 01:39:44,478
"I have to believe that.
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So, what are you gonna do?"
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I'm gonna fight for her life.
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And I hope...
I hope I'm not alone.
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