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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Ditching the processed food is a good idea but there’s so much food available, it’s hard to know what’s healthy and what isn’t. 2 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Is dieting the answer? 3 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 17.21 4 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 NM: Going on a diet will make you gradually lose weight but at some point your survival mechanism in your brain is gonna kick in and it’s gonna think we’re now starving and if there’s any food about we’d better eat it pronto because we’re going to starve to death. 5 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 That’s the inbuilt subconscious mechanism that’s going on and what tends to happen with dieters and we know the term yo yo dieting – when they go back on eating or splurging out on foods and eating the way their brain is telling them to eat, they’re going to put on weight very quickly. 6 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 17.56 7 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: There are other factors that cause dieting to fail like stress. 8 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 18.01 9 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SJG: Some people when they’re stressed will overeat. 10 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Other people will actually eat less when they’re stressed but one interesting thing is that almost everyone will change the types of foods that they select when they’re stressed. 11 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Almost everyone will go and shift toward more calorie dense, so called comfort foods, when they’re stressed and those tend to be fattening, unhealthy foods. 12 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 18.23 13 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 LF: A lot of people eat use eating as a stress reduction technique so if you can’t learn a different and more effective or hopefully more better mechanism for dealing with stress then you’re gonna have a very hard time following any diet for any period of time. 14 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 18.44 15 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: But if you’re overweight and want a lifestyle change which of the diets out there is the best one to take up? 16 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 18.51 17 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 RM: One of the most interesting studies on this was the Mediterranean diet in a predimed study where about 400 people were randomised to the usual American guideline diet versus a olive oil supplemented group or a nut supplemented group which were both called the Mediterranean diet. 18 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 What the study showed that people in those nut supplemented group and the olive oil group actually got diabetes at half the rate at what the people on the traditional American recommendation diet got. 19 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 So it suggests to me that a Mediterranean diet may have particular benefits for promoting less fat spilling over into the pancreas and the liver and protecting against type 2 diabetes. 20 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 19.40 21 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Our modern western diet is also out of touch with out gut bacteria. 22 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 19.45 23 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 JS: If you look at these hunter gatherer populations that have no western disease, no obesity and you look at what they eat, its primarily plants in large quantities. 24 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 They eat 150 grams of dietary fibre per day, we eat 15 grams of dietary fibre per day – a 10 fold decrease in the food that feeds our gut microbiota. 25 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We’re actually starving our microbial selves to some degree because we’re not eating the dietary fibre that the microbes in our gut rely upon. 26 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 20.18 27 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: So a healthy diet starts with plenty of plant foods which have less calories, are filling and have added benefits. 28 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 20.26 29 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 FJ: Plant foods are high in fibre, they’re high in antioxidants and vitamins and minerals so this is your vegetables of all different colours. 30 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 It’s your legumes so your chickpeas and your lentils and your beans and your nuts and your seeds, your whole grains, quinoa – those sorts of foods. 31 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 The foods that we know are good for us. 32 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 20.51 33 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: We also need protein which is missing in starchy, processed food and is helpful as it reduces hunger. 34 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 20.58 35 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SJG: Protein, as you’re losing weight, can make your brain think that you’re not starving. 36 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Normally your brain would think you’re starving as you’re losing weight – you’d get hungry, the way your body burns calories would start to diminish but if you eat a high protein diet it can attenuate those things so you feel more comfortable, you’re maintaining more lean mass and you’re maintaining your calorie expenditure as you’re losing weight. 37 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 21.27 38 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: I’ve been watching what I eat and exercising but what makes the biggest difference? 39 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 21.25 40 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 NH: Last one. 41 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 21.31 42 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: It’s hard, there’s a bit of weight to lift up. 43 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 21.34 44 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 NH: Nutrition is the most fundamental thing but I don’t see it as a pie graph where you’ve got one percentage on one side and one percentage on the other. 45 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 I see it as what you’d call a Venn diagram where they very much overlap and are complementary so if you’re exercising in the right way and you’ve got your nutrition pretty well sorted, those 2 things together are incredibly powerful and a lot more powerful than simply doing one or the other. 46 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 21.58 47 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 GS: This only happens once a week but the everyday reality for people is that they’re bombarded with unhealthy options. 48 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.05 49 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: But we live in a world where we’re constantly presented with tempting, sugary, processed food. 50 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.13 51 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 NM: There are a few things we could be doing, a number of them our Government authorities are trying to do already to various extents. 52 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We’re trying to educate people, that’s the first thing. 53 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Educate people what are the right foods to eat and what aren’t. 54 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.26 55 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: What have you guys got? 56 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.29 57 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Child: We’ve got a snowman and Coke. 58 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.32 59 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: And Coke. 60 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.33 61 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Child: Yeah. 62 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.34 63 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Education is one way forward but not everyone agrees it will work. 64 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.35 65 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Sugar’s bad. 66 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.39 67 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Child: Sugar’s good. 68 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 22.40 69 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 WW: If you educate people mostly the message only goes to the people that are already fairly healthy so we find it just increases the gap so that the people who are already healthy, they get healthier because they want to be healthy and they’re interested in their education. 70 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Then the people who are not so interested, they are not yet changing their behaviour because of the education. 71 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 23.02 72 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Dr Wilma Waterlander wanted to test the effect of price on people’s food buying decisions. 73 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 She set up an experiment in a computerised virtual supermarket and sent people grocery shopping. 74 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 23.15 75 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 WW: The virtual supermarket really looks like a real supermarket so it’s three dimensional and people can shop with their trolley, they go around the shelves and click products with their mouse. 76 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We ask people to do a shop as they would do normally for their households but what we can do in the backend is that we change things without telling people. 77 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Say 100 people go in, they have normal prices, 100 other people go in they get a fat tax and then we can see how that influences their purchases. 78 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 23.46 79 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Wilma manipulated the price of products to see if it would encourage people to make healthier food choices. 80 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 23.52 81 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 WW: We have done about four different experiments in the virtual supermarket – subsidy on fruits and vegetables, we’ve done one where we did taxes on unhealthy food and subsidies on healthy food. 82 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 One where we changed the prices and changed the labels and one where we did a soft drink tax. 83 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We found that in all experiments that changing the price is very effective in changing consumption so if you introduce a subsidy people buy more healthy food and if you introduce a tax on unhealthy food people buy less of the unhealthy food. 84 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 24.27 85 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: [indistinct 24.27]. 86 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 No sugar, right? 87 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 24.31 88 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Man: Yeah. 89 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 24. 90 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Should our government be subsidising healthy food and taxing things like sugar? 91 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 24.37 92 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 ST: Yeah, I think we’ve got to go down the same track as tobacco with sugary products. 93 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 They’re causing us all kinds of harm, most of us are having a truck load of sugar without even thinking about it. 94 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 It’s laced in the manufactured foods that we eat. 95 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 24.56 96 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 GS: A tax on sugary drinks has been shown to be effective in Mexico quite recently. 97 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 They bought it in in 2014 and it showed that with a 10% tax consumption reduced by 12%. 98 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 The reduction in consumption was greater for people of lower socioeconomic status, they reduced their intake of sugary drinks by about 17%. 99 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 25.21 100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Lovely work, guys. 101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 25.23 102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 WW: It’s not just about introducing taxes or subsidies but also thinking about how can it be that unhealthy food is so cheap? Why does a Big Mac only cost $2.00 or $3.00 and how can it be that we have all these shelves of all these unhealthy foods? Thinking one step further into what are we doing at the moment? How do international agricultural subsidies and policies and commercial pressure influence the food system and how can we change that? 103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 25.51 104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 WC: I think we all need to make more active decisions about our lives, we are all quite passive. 105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 It’s easy to be passive and become obese – you actually have to become much more active to prevent becoming obese. 106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 26.07 107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: An “active” role is just what one south Auckland school has taken and they’ve seen huge changes for the better in their students. 108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 26.16 109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Dilworth Rural Campus has a real different way of feeding the kids. 110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 26.22 111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 JR: It started off we were really interested in getting kids fit when they came out here because they do a lot of outdoors and we do daily fitness, that’s an important part of what we do. 112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 What we noticed was that in our first couple of years, really, that even though we did a lot of outdoor stuff and daily fitness that we had a lot of big boys who, I guess, had gained more muscle but they actually weren’t dropping a lot of weight and I was thinking, why is that because they’re eating pretty well. 113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Then I had conversation with my chef and said, “I think we need to maybe start to look at our diet.” 114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 26.53 115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: John asked AUT dietician Dr Caryn Zinn for advice. 116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 She suggested cutting back on the carbs and removing sugar from the boys’ diet. 117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 But when head chef Craig heard about the idea, however, he was sceptical. 118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.09 119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 CJ: I thought this is just bonkers so I thought, oh well, I’ve gotta do this myself before I take it to the kids and stand in front of 100 kid’s parents. 120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.18 121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: You don’t look like you need to lose weight, mate! 122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.21 123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 CJ: This is 27 kilos later and a year and a half. 124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.26 125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Twenty seven kilos? 126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.26 127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Craig’s massive weight loss is an inspirational story in itself but he still had to convince everyone else that this was going to work. 128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.35 129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 CJ: First year talking to the parents, talking to the boys getting them to understand. 130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We started doing the pulled pork and the cereals went and the butter chicken, the boys like those sort of dishes. 131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.45 132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Sounds pretty tasty. 133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 What did you used to eat before you came here for breakfast? What would you have at home? 134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.48 135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Boy: KFC, McDonald’s and all sorts of fast foods at restaurants and sugary foods. 136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.55 137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Are you serious? 138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.56 139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Boy: Yes. 140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.57 141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Really? 142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.58 143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Boy: Yeah. 144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 27.59 145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: What do you think about what you’re now eating when you’re at school compared to at home? 146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.04 147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Boy: It’s a lot better, it’s a lot more filling and nutritional and it helps us get through the day and you have no sugar highs and sugar lows and all those sorts of things. 148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.13 149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: The boys are rostered on to help make the evening meal. 150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Tonight’s dinner is lamb curry with fresh green beans and cauliflower rice – high in protein and vegetables and low in carbs. 151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.24 152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 CJ: We’ve got our nice grated cauliflower and again we’re gonna put that into our woks, little bit of oil, we’ll flavour that up, stir fry that up and we’ll put a cup of that with our lamb korma tonight. 153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.36 154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: I’m working with a spoon. 155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.37 156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 CJ: You’re not bad, get in there, go. 157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We’ll keep building the flavours in it anyway but that’s a start, we’re gonna put more spice, put more seasoning. 158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.48 159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Delicious. 160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 28.49 161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 CJ: If we can keep these boys happy, keep them learning and teach them some good, healthy, nutritious meals, give them good, healthy, nutritious meals on the way it puts them in good stead, eh? 162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.01 163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Come dinner time, the students can’t seem to get enough of this wholesome food. 164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.06 165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: How’s dinner? 166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.07 167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Boy: Yum. 168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.08 169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Yeah? 170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.09 171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Both students and teachers eat from the same menu and everyone is enjoying the benefits of this nutritious, tasty meal. 172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.16 173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 JR: The main thing we’ve got rid of is a tonne of sugar. 174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.20 175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: Literally a tonne? 176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.21 177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 JR: Yeah, it’s actually over. 178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Craig estimates it’s over a tonne of sugar out of the diet. 179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.27 180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 SG: That’s a lot of sugar. 181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 29.28 182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 JR: That’s a lot of sugar. 183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Last year we did the whole year on this new diet and we noticed a significant difference in our bigger kids, particularly in the waist measurements coming down to the point those boys were different body shapes altogether by the time they got to the end of last year. 184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 We figured this is it – it’s not just exercise, diet was really the key thing that made the difference. 185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 30.34 186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: I’ve been working hard for three months now and finally I’ve got enough confidence to go to the gym rather than just working out at home. 187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Luke: Keep the core tight, good. 188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 [indistinct 30.47] good, jump back. 189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 There it is, jump up. 190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Perfect. 191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Keep the weight over the hands, that’s good. 192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 30.54 193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 VO SG: Well, this is it, I’m ready to redo all the tests I did three months ago and it’s time to see if all the expert nutritional and fitness advice has paid off. 194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 I’ve been working out three days a week. 195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 I haven’t necessarily loved it but I’m pretty sure Luke has got me to the stage where I’ll be fit enough to show a marked improvement. 196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 31.18 197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Avon: It looks like you missed your appointment with the beautician again so we have to … 198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 31.22 20183

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