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So, Grant, you told
me Silviya just
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recently wrote you a letter?
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Right.
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I'm surprised.
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Did Silviya really
reach out to you?
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You know, yes, Silvie
did reach out to me.
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Do you think she's happy?
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Yeah, I think Silvie is
happy with how her life is.
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My life was easy.
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He was obsessed with her.
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It's a heinous crime.
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I didn't do any of this.
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Jurors are hearing
closing arguments,
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and they will soon
have to recommend
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if Grant Amato will
face the death penalty
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or die in prison.
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They've been deliberating
for much of the afternoon
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on into the evening.
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And a judge says
that they will allow
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them to continue to deliberate
for as long as they need to.
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I was expecting the jury
to deliberate a little bit
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longer than they had.
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They broke one afternoon.
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And then that evening they
came back with a verdict.
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I'm told that the jury
has reached a verdict.
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Could you please hand
it to the deputy?
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The courtroom was very
emotional in the moments
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before the verdict was read.
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On one side, you had surviving
members of the Amatos.
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And it really seemed like they
didn't know what could happen.
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The prosecution provided a
decently compelling case.
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But Grant's defense
did a very excellent
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job at defending their client.
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So, at that moment, it was
sort of a mystery of what would
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be read in that courtroom.
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It's a heinous crime.
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But my number-one focus
is always to make sure
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that I save my client's life.
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Mr. Amato, if you
could please stand.
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"We the jury unanimously find
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"that the state has established
beyond a reasonable doubt
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"that the first-degree murder
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"was committed in a
cold, calculated, and
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"premeditated manner.
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"Yes.
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"We the jury unanimously
find that Grant Amato
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"should be sentenced to death.
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No."
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Based upon this case,
2019 CF 337 CFA,
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the State of Florida
versus Grant Amato,
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you've been found guilty
for killing your mother,
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your father, and your brother.
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I would sentence you
to life imprisonment
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without any
possibility of parole.
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And otherwise, sir, just
God have mercy on your soul.
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Nothing further at this point.
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I didn't really see any
emotion on Grant's face
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when that verdict was read.
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From his family, it seemed like
there was a sigh of relief.
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Did you ever entertain
the possibility
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that Grant was innocent?
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Completely innocent?
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Not seriously.
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If not Grant, who?
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I'm at peace with it.
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You know, we did our
best. We saved his life.
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In my heart, I didn't believe
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he was going to
get away with this.
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We had enough circumstantial
evidence placing
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him at the crime scene
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his digital
footprint, his motive.
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It wasn't, like, devastating
when they came back guilty,
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but I will say there are
so many aspects of the case
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that are unexplainable.
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The blow-by-blow
of what occurred,
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that picture has still
never been painted for me.
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And I don't know
that it's knowable.
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And it's fascinating
that it's not knowable.
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Hello, true crimers.
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Hi, guys. How are you today?
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My name is Bailey Sarian.
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And today is Murder,
Mystery, and Makeup Monday.
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You're not going to
believe this shit.
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OK, this one looks good.
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29-year-old Grant
Amato had lost his job,
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gotten kicked out of
school, and was living
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at home with his parents.
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This is precisely how
every bad story starts, OK?
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He was spending all of his time
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on a live streaming porn
site called Cam Girls,
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communicating with a Bulgarian
woman who he would claim
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was his girlfriend.
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You idiot!
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I think he thought he loved her.
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So it turns into sort of a
twisted Shakespeare play.
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And in Grant's mind,
Silviya is still his wife.
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Are you fuckin'
kidding me, dude?
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This is, like, what happens
if Twitch streamers go wrong.
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On January 25, 2019, police
discovered the bodies of Chad,
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Margaret, and Cody Amato.
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Each of them were
shot execution-style
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inside their home.
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What the fuck, dude?
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Sound pretty popular, Grant.
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Yep, that's me.
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I really do hope you get help.
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Seems like you have
serious issues.
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Grant, you need to get
out of your fantasy world.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
to the greatest show on Earth.
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Hello, true crimers.
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This is the case of Grant Amato.
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Grant Amato was
one of three sons
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of Chad and Margaret Amato.
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Chad.
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Everything was in its place,
straight and tucked in.
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I first learned about
Grant from watching a lot
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of true crime YouTube videos.
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Grant Amato loved anime.
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He had this crazy
anime collection.
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And he just had all these boxes.
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According to Grant, he
spent most of his time
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in his room playing video games.
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Since Grant didn't
have a job at the time,
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his parents paid for
all of his expenses.
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He thought he was
in love with her.
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- Obsession.
- So obsessed.
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Silvie doesn't love you.
It's a full-on addiction.
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Grant, wake up.
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It's virtual.
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She's not real. She
doesn't love you.
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You're paying for it. Wake up.
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And you know, Grant,
there's so much
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that is hard to make
sense of in this story,
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but it does seem like Silvie was
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the one person that you felt
comfortable opening up to.
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What do you think we're missing
by not having her voice?
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Without her involvement, nothing
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can really get cleared up.
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This is after everything had
been revealed, after you'd
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been accused of
murdering your family,
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that you had stolen
all this money.
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Did Silvie really reach
out to you after all that?
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You know, not to not directly
answer your question,
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but I feel like...
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Oh, God. So sorry.
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Lost it there.
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I mean, I really wish
that Silvie would be more
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open to contributing to this
project, just talking to you,
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even if it was,
like, off the record.
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You know, as you
know, we're planning
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to go try to find Silvie,
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to speak to her, to get
her end of this story.
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Hopefully we can find
her and convince her
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to sit down and talk with us.
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Hey, Dora, where
are we right now?
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So this is the
Druzba neighborhood.
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It's on the outskirts of Sofia.
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These blocks around here are
quite typical for the older
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neighborhoods of Sofia.
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They were built, like, 50,
60 years ago, let's say,
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and they all look the same.
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And as far as I understand,
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we sort of had an incomplete
address for Silviya.
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Is this right?
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So we have a building but
not an apartment number.
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Is that right?
- That's right.
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So there's no way
to tell exactly
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which apartment she lives in.
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I mean, this is what's so
curious to me is seeing just
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how radically different
this environment is
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from this, like, lush,
green suburbia of Florida,
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where Grant lived.
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These people lived in
such different universes,
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and yet they're joined together
by this camming relationship
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and now this terrible crime.
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I wonder if they really
had any conception of what
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each other's lives were like.
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I would say it's
probably kind of...
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Silvie's day-to-day
life looked quite
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different from what you
were describing over there
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in Florida.
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I keep scanning everyone's face,
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waiting to see her
walking down the street.
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OK, so we have a
building, we have a block,
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but not an address and
certainly not a Silvie.
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So where does this leave us?
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So I've had a few
clues to look through.
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So, basically, what I
realized is that it's almost
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like there is two
different people...
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- Mm.
- That I've been looking for.
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So we have this first
person, Ady Sweet.
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And then there is the other
person that is a lot more
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private, and that's Silviya.
- Mm-hmm.
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Online, there is not
that much about her.
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I couldn't find a
social media profile.
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There is nothing that's
related to the real world,
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if you see what I mean.
- Right.
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But because Silviya
sent post and postcards
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and she sent small
presents to Grant,
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there is the strangest
thing that she
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sent that I was looking at.
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Yeah, what is this? I
don't remember seeing this.
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This looks like a blood test
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that you would go
and do in a lab,
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all sorts of, like, glucose.
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I mean, we have to
assume this is hers.
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I don't know why
else she would...
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- Yeah.
- You know, Grant...
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Grant is a nurse.
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He was almost a certified
nurse anesthetist.
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He would have known
exactly how to read this.
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He would have known exactly
what all of this meant.
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So she must have been sharing
her blood test with him to see
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what he thought, to see if...
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OK, yeah, maybe she
just sent it to consult
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with him about something.
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I mean, I don't know.
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In a way, it's
something that you
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would send to someone you kind
of really trust, which is...
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Someone you really trust.
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But then there was one other
thing I saw in the folder.
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There is a Viber
account with a number.
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What is Viber?
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It's a messaging app
and a free calls app.
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It's like WhatsApp
and Messenger.
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I tried calling.
- Mm-hmm.
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I also send a message, but
I haven't got a response.
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But I can keep trying.
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I mean, this is a
four-year-old number
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at this point.
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I'm sure after the crime,
she disconnected it.
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Yeah, we'll see.
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Maybe we'll keep
trying or something.
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- Yeah, exactly.
- Yeah. Who knows?
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So the investigation continues.
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We're not done yet.
- Yeah.
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So we, I think, told you
that through our reporting,
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we've come up with a
couple of new details.
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We want to play an excerpt
from a conversation
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I had with Grant recently.
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We're going to give you a phone.
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And then you're
going to hit play.
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And we just want to
see your reaction.
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Cameras, let us know
when you're set.
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Are we rolling, everybody?
- Yep.
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OK.
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All right, go
ahead and hit play.
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That's it.
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Well, that solves the mystery.
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- So what do you think?
- Oh, it's fascinating.
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Yeah.
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It leaves me a
little bit of closure
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that I know that he
wasn't wrongly convicted.
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So the fascinating
part to me is, like,
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"I did those murders."
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It's not, like, I shot
and killed my dad.
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I shot and killed my mom.
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And I shot and
killed my brother.
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It's just interesting
the way he says it.
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Are you surprised that
he decided to confess?
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00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:09,986
No, I'm not surprised
he decided to confess.
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I think this may be
his way to finally
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get it out in the open, kind
of a weight off his shoulders.
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So, on one hand,
my reaction to that
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is that he could have
saved his remaining family
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a whole lot of grief by saying
that and pleading guilty.
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And he chose not to do that.
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00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:37,536
And it's the continuation
of the selfishness
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that we've always seen from him.
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Maybe it was gnawing at
him, so he felt like he
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had to get it off his chest.
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00:25:44,804 --> 00:25:48,503
But he didn't show any
remorse for what he did.
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Mr. Turpin, raise
your right hand.
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Be ready to be sworn, please.
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Do you know an individual
named Grant Amato?
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I do.
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00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:16,009
How long have you
known Grant Amato?
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00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:17,976
I've known Grant since
we were in high school,
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00:26:18,054 --> 00:26:19,795
about 15 years.
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All right, the car is
clearly not in the...
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When would that have happened?
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If he shoots them and
kills them with that gun,
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00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,217
he then drives to
Blake Turpin's house
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00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:53,002
and messes around
in his backyard?
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00:26:57,398 --> 00:26:58,854
There was digital
imprints that he was
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00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:00,923
at the Publix at 3 o'clock.
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00:27:01,010 --> 00:27:05,101
By 9:30, he was
under surveillance.
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00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:09,453
So somehow he must have done
it between 3:00 and 5:00 AM.
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00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:13,501
Isn't there going to be some
kind of leftover evidence
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00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:15,329
of some kind of digging?
291
00:27:15,416 --> 00:27:17,655
I mean, it's not exactly, like,
the best way to dump something.
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00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:19,333
But then again, who am I to say?
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00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:20,900
They didn't find it.
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00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:26,340
Six inches, silver.
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00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:28,081
Right. No, over.
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No. No.
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00:27:30,518 --> 00:27:31,954
It's kind of just unimaginable
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00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:34,653
what this man did after
committing these homicides.
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00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,892
And now we have one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven,
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00:27:36,916 --> 00:27:40,180
eight sheriffs back
here on a scavenger hunt
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00:27:40,267 --> 00:27:42,878
that Grant sent us all on.
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00:27:42,965 --> 00:27:44,488
I just don't know.
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00:27:44,575 --> 00:27:45,895
I don't know what's
real anymore.
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00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,579
Is he lying? Are they
just not finding it?
305
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,187
Oh, my God. You
didn't find anything?
306
00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:52,279
No.
307
00:27:52,366 --> 00:27:54,431
They definitely look like
they're losing confidence.
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00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:57,240
Nobody knows what's
real anymore.
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00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:03,507
Grub.
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00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:09,949
- There's no doubt he's a liar.
- Yeah.
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00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,734
He lied to us, lied to his
family, lied to his friends...
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00:28:12,821 --> 00:28:15,041
- Yeah.
- Lied to her.
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00:28:15,128 --> 00:28:16,651
Yeah, it's a very strange case.
314
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:19,393
- It is, a very sad case.
- Yeah.
315
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,438
I know we did everything
we could have done,
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00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:23,397
exhausted everything
we had available to us.
317
00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:25,138
Well, I think you guys...
318
00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:26,724
But the right person is
in jail, in my opinion.
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00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:27,967
Yeah.
320
00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:34,974
Grant, we just went
down to Florida
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00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:39,413
to Blake Turpin's house and
tried to dig up the gun.
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00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,936
- OK.
- We were in touch
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00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:43,156
with the Seminole
County sheriffs.
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00:28:43,243 --> 00:28:45,724
They spent about four
hours digging up his yard,
325
00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:48,944
and they did not find a gun.
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00:28:49,031 --> 00:28:50,293
Crazy.
327
00:28:52,861 --> 00:28:55,516
So what's going on?
328
00:28:55,603 --> 00:28:59,215
I mean, that is very surprising
329
00:28:59,302 --> 00:29:02,741
only because
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00:29:02,828 --> 00:29:05,961
the only thing that
I can think of is,
331
00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:10,096
there's, obviously, been, like,
lawn work done, maybe even
332
00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:13,403
excavation type work to get
rid of the huge tree stumps
333
00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:16,450
and whatnot for the couple of
trees that he had back there.
334
00:29:16,537 --> 00:29:20,149
Because that's very strange that
335
00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:21,672
that it's not there anymore.
336
00:29:29,855 --> 00:29:32,422
Well, Grant, you know, I feel
really conflicted, you know?
337
00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:34,207
I put myself on a limb.
338
00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:37,427
To go out there, I had to
give a sworn statement.
339
00:29:37,514 --> 00:29:39,516
And then the gun wasn't there.
340
00:29:39,603 --> 00:29:41,736
I think you can imagine
how that makes me look,
341
00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:44,043
how that makes my team look.
342
00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:47,568
You know, are you being
truthful with me, Grant?
343
00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:49,135
That is crazy.
344
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:52,312
You know, I know that this
is a professional question,
345
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:56,185
but it's very irritating to
always have to defend myself
346
00:29:56,272 --> 00:29:59,014
when I'm trying to do
something, like, altruistic.
347
00:29:59,101 --> 00:30:00,581
You know, I'm trying
to do something
348
00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:06,413
here where this has absolutely
zero benefit for me.
349
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,546
But
350
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:12,636
yes, once again, I
am being truthful.
351
00:31:50,647 --> 00:31:52,867
Everybody believes
352
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,349
that I murdered my family
353
00:31:56,436 --> 00:31:58,177
for Silvie.
354
00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:01,354
Everybody believes that
the reason why Grant Amato
355
00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:04,400
murdered his family was
because they would not
356
00:32:04,487 --> 00:32:08,187
let him be with this woman.
357
00:32:08,274 --> 00:32:10,711
That is not true.
358
00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:14,410
It wasn't some act of passion
359
00:32:14,497 --> 00:32:16,978
or anything like that.
360
00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:19,894
Well, Grant, what's
the right answer?
361
00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:23,158
What went wrong?
362
00:32:23,245 --> 00:32:26,292
Every single day was
the same exact two-,
363
00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:29,077
three-hour-long conversation
just about the same shit
364
00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:31,297
over and over and over again.
365
00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:34,256
I was completely
disconnected from Cody,
366
00:32:34,343 --> 00:32:37,912
who was my literal
lifeline my whole life.
367
00:32:37,999 --> 00:32:41,350
My mom was isolated
in her own world
368
00:32:41,437 --> 00:32:45,398
and dealing with all of the
ramifications of my dad.
369
00:32:45,485 --> 00:32:48,009
It was just a constant reminder
every day of the failure
370
00:32:48,096 --> 00:32:51,926
that I had become and how much
I just let down everybody.
371
00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:53,319
You know?
372
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,325
And, Grant, did they try
to help you figure out
373
00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:00,979
what you were going through?
374
00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:02,937
You know, you had made mistakes.
375
00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:06,593
Did they try to help
you examine them?
376
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,900
My mother and my father
had actually been
377
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,294
going to a family therapist.
378
00:33:12,381 --> 00:33:14,296
And I went to one.
379
00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:19,084
I went to one
family-therapy session.
380
00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:23,827
And I can't put it
into enough words
381
00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:27,831
how embarrassing it was,
382
00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:31,096
especially when my brother
Cody started talking,
383
00:33:31,183 --> 00:33:36,057
because everything
that he said was right.
384
00:33:36,144 --> 00:33:41,410
And I knew that this
therapist was thinking, wow,
385
00:33:41,497 --> 00:33:43,586
this dude's got it together.
386
00:33:43,673 --> 00:33:45,545
Like, he's so logical.
387
00:33:45,632 --> 00:33:46,850
He's successful.
388
00:33:46,937 --> 00:33:49,331
He's trying to help out.
389
00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:52,465
Look at all the money he
spent for his brother.
390
00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:57,339
And, man, he's like Jesus
Christ reincarnated.
391
00:33:57,426 --> 00:33:59,472
Then it comes to me.
392
00:34:02,127 --> 00:34:03,432
I'm going. I'm going. I'm going.
393
00:34:05,304 --> 00:34:06,957
Nice job, Grant.
394
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,656
And you
395
00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:12,527
are going to be good.
396
00:34:12,614 --> 00:34:15,183
And they're just
asking, you know,
397
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:21,270
why I ventured into this
alternate lifestyle.
398
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:23,800
Thank you, Grant, for
everything tonight,
399
00:34:23,887 --> 00:34:25,759
everything that I'm
wearing tonight.
400
00:34:25,846 --> 00:34:27,239
And I see it as a problem.
401
00:34:27,326 --> 00:34:29,241
Grant, thank you so much.
402
00:34:29,328 --> 00:34:32,547
All that anybody was talking
about was these six months.
403
00:34:32,635 --> 00:34:37,118
And it's like, 27 years
before this didn't exist.
404
00:34:38,598 --> 00:34:40,730
So the end result was that I was
405
00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:45,170
to improve my self-image
406
00:34:45,257 --> 00:34:49,043
because apparently
that's what my issue was.
407
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,525
I perceived myself as less than
408
00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:55,397
less than my father,
409
00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:58,879
less than my brother,
410
00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:01,708
the male figures in my family.
411
00:35:01,795 --> 00:35:04,102
And once again,
you're telling this
412
00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:08,062
to a person who has
a very dominant,
413
00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:11,892
pompous personality.
414
00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,677
And instead of just fucking
giving me a plane ticket
415
00:35:14,764 --> 00:35:17,811
and letting me disappear
into the world on my own,
416
00:35:17,898 --> 00:35:20,248
which is all that I said
that I wanted to do...
417
00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:22,903
I wanted to get
away from everybody.
418
00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:27,299
That's kind of a red flag that
you all are not helping me.
419
00:35:27,386 --> 00:35:32,478
So I was very
unreceptive to therapy
420
00:35:32,565 --> 00:35:36,917
when it, like, wasn't
going in the direction
421
00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:40,921
that I thought that
it should be going.
422
00:35:41,008 --> 00:35:46,970
And the day after we had this
therapy session was when they
423
00:35:47,057 --> 00:35:49,408
tell me, hey, we're
going to be admitting
424
00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:54,413
you to a private rehab facility
because you have a problem.
425
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:58,678
You're not open to any
form of family therapy.
426
00:35:58,765 --> 00:36:03,770
And I was just
completely taken aback.
427
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,512
I just felt so betrayed.
428
00:36:10,603 --> 00:36:12,648
I just did what my normal
defense mechanism was,
429
00:36:12,735 --> 00:36:14,084
and I closed off.
430
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,999
I shut down.
431
00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:18,567
Being told that I'm not
going to be able to have
432
00:36:18,654 --> 00:36:21,353
my cell phone or any
electronic device for 60 days,
433
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,138
being detached from
the online world
434
00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:26,923
was just all the more traumatic.
435
00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:28,229
You know?
436
00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:32,451
My one outlet that
had brought me joy,
437
00:36:32,538 --> 00:36:36,106
this alternate lifestyle
that I had developed,
438
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,760
was gone.
439
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:41,416
So now this life that I was
left with was pointless.
440
00:36:49,381 --> 00:36:53,646
And so that was when I
started thinking about killing
441
00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:55,300
my family members.
442
00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:44,748
It definitely takes
a toll on you,
443
00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:46,176
working these crime scenes.
444
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:49,267
You feel for the families.
445
00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:52,574
I mean, you think
about your own family.
446
00:37:52,661 --> 00:37:57,275
God forbid something
like this could happen.
447
00:37:57,362 --> 00:37:59,581
And this just goes to
show, you can put someone
448
00:37:59,668 --> 00:38:01,627
in a perfect
circumstance and still
449
00:38:01,714 --> 00:38:04,499
have a kid that is a
major, major problem
450
00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:07,285
that you could not solve,
even with your best efforts.
451
00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,287
And this family seemed like they
452
00:38:09,374 --> 00:38:10,734
put in their
absolute best efforts
453
00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:11,985
to try to fix his issues.
454
00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,646
I believe that people perceive
455
00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:25,912
me to be a monstrous,
psychopathic,
456
00:38:25,999 --> 00:38:28,567
simple human being.
457
00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:32,005
You know?
458
00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:35,182
And it's so polar to
who I actually am.
459
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:39,142
You know, I can't think of...
460
00:38:41,971 --> 00:38:43,451
I don't really know.
461
00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:46,324
I can't think of,
like, a better way
462
00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:49,414
to commit those crimes
because nobody saw me.
463
00:38:49,501 --> 00:38:52,068
Nobody knew what
was about to happen.
464
00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:56,595
You know, and I did that on
purpose because I didn't want
465
00:38:56,682 --> 00:39:01,077
that final thought to
be, wow, I can't believe
466
00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,210
you're about to do this to me.
467
00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:04,690
You know?
468
00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:10,777
So the fact that I
had that compassion,
469
00:39:11,392 --> 00:39:14,830
that's the way that
I am, you know.
470
00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:17,877
It's like, even in the process
of doing something terrible,
471
00:39:17,964 --> 00:39:21,707
I'm trying to be as
compassionate as possible.
472
00:39:21,794 --> 00:39:24,623
Grant, you must know
that people are going
473
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:26,451
to have a lot of
difficulty saying
474
00:39:26,538 --> 00:39:28,409
that you committed
these homicides
475
00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,542
in a compassionate way.
476
00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:34,502
You must know how that's
going to sound to people.
477
00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:37,505
I might say that I don't care
about people, that, you know,
478
00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:39,333
I just want to be left alone.
479
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,728
But, honestly,
you know, whatever
480
00:39:42,815 --> 00:39:48,081
capacities I have to help
people, I do, unquestioned.
481
00:42:41,907 --> 00:42:43,778
There are definitely some cases
482
00:42:43,865 --> 00:42:45,693
where you can feel
some sort of sympathy
483
00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:49,001
for Grant, for his struggles,
for what he was going through.
484
00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:52,308
But you put them all
together, you realize that he
485
00:42:52,395 --> 00:42:55,137
came from a loving home.
486
00:42:55,224 --> 00:42:57,052
You realize that he had a mother
487
00:42:57,139 --> 00:43:00,360
who loved him dearly, who would
do anything to protect him.
488
00:43:00,447 --> 00:43:02,623
You realize that he had a
brother who did the same.
489
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:05,017
You realize he had a father
who was kind of a hard-ass
490
00:43:05,104 --> 00:43:10,239
but still made all these
efforts to protect his son.
491
00:43:10,326 --> 00:43:14,679
And he made this
selfish decision
492
00:43:14,766 --> 00:43:17,856
to take their lives.
493
00:43:17,943 --> 00:43:23,775
Grant Amato put himself
in this downward spiral.
494
00:43:23,862 --> 00:43:28,997
Grant Amato refused to
accept the second chances,
495
00:43:29,084 --> 00:43:32,000
refused to accept the
help that he was offered.
496
00:43:32,087 --> 00:43:33,219
Did you leave the house...
497
00:43:33,306 --> 00:43:34,786
Grant Amato...
498
00:43:34,873 --> 00:43:36,614
With your brother Cody
looking like that?
499
00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:38,441
Refused to admit
what everybody pretty
500
00:43:38,528 --> 00:43:40,182
much knew at this point.
501
00:43:40,269 --> 00:43:42,552
- Who did this to your family?
- He killed his entire family.
502
00:43:42,576 --> 00:43:45,884
I didn't do any of this.
503
00:43:45,971 --> 00:43:51,324
Part of me is wondering if
it's this desperate sense
504
00:43:51,411 --> 00:43:53,021
of wanting attention.
505
00:43:53,108 --> 00:43:54,893
No.
506
00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:57,591
He knew that he would get
attention by going on trial.
507
00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:00,289
As to the reasonable-doubt
instruction, objection, state?
508
00:44:00,376 --> 00:44:01,595
No objection.
509
00:44:01,682 --> 00:44:04,076
- Any objection, defense?
- No.
510
00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:06,600
He knew that none of
this would be happening
511
00:44:06,687 --> 00:44:08,471
had he pleaded guilty.
512
00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:19,004
And he still chose to
put his surviving brother
513
00:44:19,091 --> 00:44:22,790
through the hell of
seeing his parents'
514
00:44:22,877 --> 00:44:26,620
and his brother's body
blown up on a courtroom,
515
00:44:26,707 --> 00:44:29,188
the hell of publicizing of this.
516
00:44:29,275 --> 00:44:32,670
This is just a horrific
experience for everybody.
517
00:44:32,757 --> 00:44:34,846
Three dead, two
men and one woman
518
00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:38,850
in her 50s, from
apparent gunshot wounds.
519
00:44:38,937 --> 00:44:43,637
Grant Amato destroyed
so many lives,
520
00:44:43,724 --> 00:44:47,032
people he claimed
that he cared about.
521
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,078
And what I would have
to say to him is,
522
00:44:50,165 --> 00:44:53,778
you know, was it
really worth it?
523
00:44:56,519 --> 00:45:01,655
It's a story of a very
selfish, manipulative man
524
00:45:01,742 --> 00:45:04,527
kind of getting what he
wants in the attention.
525
00:45:13,536 --> 00:45:15,930
You know, Grant,
we're discussing
526
00:45:16,017 --> 00:45:18,324
the homicide of your family,
you killing your family.
527
00:45:18,411 --> 00:45:20,587
You know, sometimes a smile
will come across your face.
528
00:45:20,674 --> 00:45:23,372
And...
- It's just so weird.
529
00:45:23,459 --> 00:45:25,810
I know it's so weird,
Grant, but I have to ask,
530
00:45:25,897 --> 00:45:27,463
are you remorseful?
531
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,291
Are you sorry you did this?
532
00:45:38,387 --> 00:45:41,347
Yes, I am remorseful. I
wish I had never done this.
533
00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:45,434
I wish I could go back in
time and have my family back.
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