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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,005 --> 00:00:03,422 NARRATOR: Crashed UFOs. 2 00:00:03,588 --> 00:00:05,338 DANNY SHEEHAN: David Grusch said that 3 00:00:05,547 --> 00:00:07,130 they were in possession 4 00:00:07,213 --> 00:00:11,005 of an intact extraterrestrial spacecraft. 5 00:00:11,172 --> 00:00:14,297 NARRATOR: Recovered alien entities. 6 00:00:15,047 --> 00:00:17,213 GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: Jesse Marcel knew not only that there was 7 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:19,505 a crashed craft but also bodies. 8 00:00:19,672 --> 00:00:24,005 NARRATOR: Secret programs to study otherworldly technology. 9 00:00:24,213 --> 00:00:28,213 JEREMY CORBELL: Bob Lazar said not only are we reverse engineering UFOs, 10 00:00:28,380 --> 00:00:30,380 but that he worked on one. 11 00:00:30,547 --> 00:00:32,672 NARRATOR: For more than six decades, 12 00:00:32,838 --> 00:00:34,505 incredible claims have been made 13 00:00:34,672 --> 00:00:38,088 about an extraterrestrial presence on Earth, 14 00:00:38,255 --> 00:00:41,547 and the government has gone to great lengths 15 00:00:41,713 --> 00:00:43,463 to discredit them. 16 00:00:43,630 --> 00:00:46,797 Are we nearing the day when whistleblowers 17 00:00:47,005 --> 00:00:49,297 will finally be taken seriously 18 00:00:49,463 --> 00:00:52,797 and their accounts proven true? 19 00:00:52,922 --> 00:00:56,297 ANNA LUNA: There's absolutely fear of being treated like you're crazy, 20 00:00:56,463 --> 00:00:59,797 but we have evidence this is not crazy. 21 00:00:59,963 --> 00:01:01,672 It's not made up. It's-it's real. 22 00:01:04,755 --> 00:01:06,422 NARRATOR: There is a doorway 23 00:01:06,588 --> 00:01:09,047 in the universe. 24 00:01:09,213 --> 00:01:13,255 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 25 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:16,088 It demands we question everything 26 00:01:16,213 --> 00:01:18,588 we have ever been taught. 27 00:01:18,755 --> 00:01:22,005 The evidence is all around us. 28 00:01:22,172 --> 00:01:25,963 The future is right before our eyes. 29 00:01:26,130 --> 00:01:28,922 We are not alone. 30 00:01:29,088 --> 00:01:32,172 We have never been alone. 31 00:01:45,213 --> 00:01:46,505 The subcommittee hearing 32 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:49,088 on unidentified anomalous phenomena, 33 00:01:49,255 --> 00:01:51,338 or UAPs, will come to order. 34 00:01:51,505 --> 00:01:55,005 NARRATOR: On Capitol Hill, the House Oversight Committee 35 00:01:55,213 --> 00:01:57,963 assembles for a landmark congressional hearing 36 00:01:58,088 --> 00:02:01,838 to record firsthand accounts of UAP activity. 37 00:02:02,047 --> 00:02:04,922 As we convene here, UAP are in our airspace, 38 00:02:05,130 --> 00:02:06,838 but they are grossly underreported. 39 00:02:07,005 --> 00:02:09,672 These sightings are not rare or isolated, they are routine. 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,422 NARRATOR: During the proceedings, lawmakers listen to testimony 41 00:02:13,588 --> 00:02:16,088 from three notable whistleblowers: 42 00:02:16,213 --> 00:02:19,463 Retired Navy pilots Ryan Graves 43 00:02:19,588 --> 00:02:21,338 and David Fravor, 44 00:02:21,547 --> 00:02:24,130 and former Air Force intelligence officer 45 00:02:24,255 --> 00:02:25,547 David Grusch, 46 00:02:25,713 --> 00:02:29,172 who also served on the UAP Task Force. 47 00:02:29,338 --> 00:02:32,297 The military veterans have come forward 48 00:02:32,463 --> 00:02:36,338 to testify under oath about UAPs that they claim 49 00:02:36,505 --> 00:02:38,713 the government has been covering up. 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,213 Parts of our government are aware 51 00:02:40,380 --> 00:02:42,255 of more about UAP than they let on, 52 00:02:42,422 --> 00:02:44,088 but excessive classification practices 53 00:02:44,255 --> 00:02:46,047 keep crucial information hidden. 54 00:02:46,213 --> 00:02:47,672 Millions of people are watching it, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,505 and they're hearing this beyond dramatic testimony 56 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:53,672 that, for the first time, we're told 57 00:02:53,838 --> 00:02:55,130 what everybody knows to be true. 58 00:02:55,213 --> 00:02:57,422 The U.S. government has been hiding secrets 59 00:02:57,630 --> 00:03:00,088 about UFOs for over 70 years. 60 00:03:01,213 --> 00:03:05,130 NARRATOR: Whistleblower David Grusch even suggests that the government 61 00:03:05,255 --> 00:03:08,505 may be in possession of alien technology. 62 00:03:08,672 --> 00:03:11,713 I was informed in the course of my official duties 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,422 of a multi-decade, uh, UAP crash retrieval 64 00:03:15,588 --> 00:03:17,463 and reverse engineering program. 65 00:03:17,588 --> 00:03:21,463 NARRATOR: For UFO researchers and lawmakers alike, 66 00:03:21,588 --> 00:03:23,880 the hearing marks a watershed moment, 67 00:03:24,088 --> 00:03:26,547 as many believe the Pentagon 68 00:03:26,713 --> 00:03:31,463 has been overly secretive about unidentified aerial phenomena. 69 00:03:31,630 --> 00:03:34,297 NANCY MACE: To have a UAP hearing on the House Oversight Committee 70 00:03:34,463 --> 00:03:36,380 was a first for the history books. 71 00:03:36,547 --> 00:03:38,172 There was a lot of information 72 00:03:38,297 --> 00:03:40,130 that was shared and alleged in that hearing, 73 00:03:40,213 --> 00:03:42,255 which made it one of the most, I think, 74 00:03:42,422 --> 00:03:44,713 uh, important hearings in the Oversight Committee's history. 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,880 NARRATOR: The hearing's explosive testimony 76 00:03:48,047 --> 00:03:51,005 made headlines across the world. 77 00:03:51,172 --> 00:03:53,255 And like many government whistleblowers, 78 00:03:53,463 --> 00:03:56,088 the individuals who sat before the committee 79 00:03:56,255 --> 00:03:59,505 came forward at great personal risk. 80 00:03:59,672 --> 00:04:02,630 SHEEHAN: From a layperson's perspective of what a whistleblower is, 81 00:04:02,755 --> 00:04:06,422 it is a person who has got inside information 82 00:04:06,547 --> 00:04:09,713 about wrongdoing who comes forward 83 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,630 and at their own peril 84 00:04:11,797 --> 00:04:14,713 reveals this to investigative reporters 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,755 or to government officials. 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,588 I had asked about 12 people to testify, 87 00:04:20,797 --> 00:04:24,255 and we got down to those three because the others had... 88 00:04:24,422 --> 00:04:28,005 I think they'd been threatened or warned not to come on. 89 00:04:28,172 --> 00:04:31,213 And some of them told us that, in effect. 90 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:33,297 GEORGE KNAPP: If you're gonna be a whistleblower, 91 00:04:33,422 --> 00:04:36,172 you got to know that whatever deep dark secret 92 00:04:36,338 --> 00:04:38,588 exists in your life, it's gonna come out. 93 00:04:38,755 --> 00:04:41,047 These guys know that, when they come forward 94 00:04:41,255 --> 00:04:42,713 with something as sensitive as this, 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,005 they're gonna pay a price. 96 00:04:46,172 --> 00:04:47,672 NARRATOR: Is the government 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,880 actively discouraging people from speaking out about UFOs? 98 00:04:53,047 --> 00:04:55,172 According to military insiders, 99 00:04:55,338 --> 00:04:58,713 the answer is a resounding yes. 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,297 But the willingness of whistleblowers to come forward, 101 00:05:02,422 --> 00:05:03,422 despite the risk, 102 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:06,130 has led to more open discussion 103 00:05:06,213 --> 00:05:09,547 about the UFO phenomenon than ever before. 104 00:05:09,713 --> 00:05:13,755 And the man who is most credited with sparking interest 105 00:05:13,922 --> 00:05:19,172 among lawmakers on Capitol Hill is whistleblower Luis Elizondo. 106 00:05:19,297 --> 00:05:23,838 Luis Elizondo, uh, was a full-time, uh, 107 00:05:24,005 --> 00:05:27,380 military, uh, career guy, United States Army, 108 00:05:27,547 --> 00:05:31,213 and a very high-ranking counterintelligence officer. 109 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:36,088 He was retained in 2007 110 00:05:36,213 --> 00:05:38,838 to a top-secret program, 111 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:42,088 which is the advanced weapons special access program, 112 00:05:42,255 --> 00:05:45,963 to investigate the UFO phenomenon. 113 00:05:46,130 --> 00:05:47,880 He became involved in setting up 114 00:05:48,047 --> 00:05:51,005 some other special, kind of less formal program 115 00:05:51,172 --> 00:05:53,255 inside the Pentagon that was called 116 00:05:53,422 --> 00:05:56,588 the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 117 00:05:56,755 --> 00:05:59,172 NARRATOR: For almost a decade, 118 00:05:59,380 --> 00:06:01,463 Elizondo studied UFOs 119 00:06:01,630 --> 00:06:03,880 and interviewed eyewitnesses for the Army. 120 00:06:04,047 --> 00:06:07,505 But according to Elizondo, the more he uncovered, 121 00:06:07,713 --> 00:06:11,255 the more his investigation was suppressed. 122 00:06:11,422 --> 00:06:12,422 KNAPP: They were making some progress 123 00:06:12,547 --> 00:06:13,922 in the military, in the Pentagon, 124 00:06:14,088 --> 00:06:18,172 but he's trying to get the attention of his higher-ups. 125 00:06:18,338 --> 00:06:19,880 "Hey, look, these cases are really important. 126 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:23,505 "These encounters are dramatic and unexplained. 127 00:06:23,672 --> 00:06:25,672 We need to put some resources into studying this." 128 00:06:25,838 --> 00:06:27,838 And he got nowhere. He kept getting blocked. 129 00:06:28,005 --> 00:06:32,088 So, he took a-a pretty courageous stance and resigned. 130 00:06:33,922 --> 00:06:36,630 NARRATOR: In October 2017, 131 00:06:36,797 --> 00:06:39,547 Lue Elizondo resigned from AATIP 132 00:06:39,713 --> 00:06:42,672 after Pentagon officials refused to present 133 00:06:42,755 --> 00:06:46,713 his findings to Defense Secretary James Mattis. 134 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,588 ELIZANDO: I-I've seen too much. 135 00:06:48,755 --> 00:06:50,005 I've talked to too many people. 136 00:06:50,213 --> 00:06:51,338 I have too many reports. 137 00:06:51,505 --> 00:06:52,547 I-I know it's real. 138 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:54,172 I-I can't in good conscience 139 00:06:54,338 --> 00:06:56,088 just keep my head buried in the sand. 140 00:06:56,213 --> 00:06:59,172 I had to leave the very job that I love 141 00:06:59,380 --> 00:07:00,755 to get my point across. 142 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:03,297 HENRY: He gets frustrated, 143 00:07:03,380 --> 00:07:04,505 and he decides to do something about it. 144 00:07:04,713 --> 00:07:06,255 He becomes a whistleblower, 145 00:07:06,422 --> 00:07:07,922 not just a whistleblower, 146 00:07:08,047 --> 00:07:10,838 but perhaps the whistleblower of all time. 147 00:07:11,005 --> 00:07:13,797 NARRATOR: Just days after resigning, 148 00:07:13,922 --> 00:07:16,505 Elizondo shared his story with reporters 149 00:07:16,672 --> 00:07:18,130 from The New York Times. 150 00:07:19,338 --> 00:07:21,797 And on December 16, the paper published 151 00:07:21,922 --> 00:07:24,130 a front-page article that revealed 152 00:07:24,338 --> 00:07:27,172 the classified UFO program. 153 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:30,463 In many ways, that New York Times story 154 00:07:30,547 --> 00:07:33,922 really changed ufology 155 00:07:34,047 --> 00:07:35,547 around the world, 156 00:07:35,713 --> 00:07:37,838 because when The New York Times got on board 157 00:07:38,047 --> 00:07:42,047 and is saying, "Yeah, there are UFOs out there," 158 00:07:42,213 --> 00:07:44,505 that opened a lot of people's eyes. 159 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:48,338 NARRATOR: Along with the article, The New York Times released 160 00:07:48,547 --> 00:07:51,672 three UFO videos taken by Navy pilots, 161 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,547 including the now famous Tic Tac encounter. 162 00:07:55,755 --> 00:07:59,005 HENRY: These videos captured the world's attention. 163 00:07:59,172 --> 00:08:02,588 And suddenly, it's like we're in a new world. 164 00:08:02,713 --> 00:08:07,088 We have these incredible videos shot by Navy pilots 165 00:08:07,297 --> 00:08:10,505 giving irrefutable evidence that there is a technology 166 00:08:10,672 --> 00:08:14,297 out there that is beyond anything our near peers have. 167 00:08:14,463 --> 00:08:16,088 CHAD UNDERWOOD: Look at it fly! 168 00:08:16,213 --> 00:08:17,755 Lue Elizondo was the core. 169 00:08:17,922 --> 00:08:20,047 I mean, without him as the whistleblower, 170 00:08:20,213 --> 00:08:23,255 as the main impetus for it, that story would never have happened. 171 00:08:23,422 --> 00:08:27,047 The videos, though, is what galvanized public attention. 172 00:08:28,213 --> 00:08:31,672 NARRATOR: Almost immediately after Elizondo went public, 173 00:08:31,838 --> 00:08:33,588 elements within the government 174 00:08:33,755 --> 00:08:36,338 actively sought to discredit him. 175 00:08:36,547 --> 00:08:39,255 RICHARD DOLAN: Lue Elizondo went through a tremendous amount 176 00:08:39,422 --> 00:08:42,922 of harassment from senior Pentagon officials, 177 00:08:43,088 --> 00:08:46,088 former supervisors of his and the like. 178 00:08:46,255 --> 00:08:47,797 Um, you had a-a statement 179 00:08:47,963 --> 00:08:50,713 in 2019 that came from the Pentagon spokesperson, 180 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,380 who stated that Luis Elizondo 181 00:08:53,547 --> 00:08:56,338 had no official office with this office at AATIP, 182 00:08:56,463 --> 00:08:59,380 in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 183 00:08:59,547 --> 00:09:01,713 KNAPP: Lue Elizondo knew he'd pay a price, 184 00:09:01,922 --> 00:09:03,547 but it was almost immediate. 185 00:09:03,713 --> 00:09:06,380 The Pentagon undercut his credibility. 186 00:09:06,547 --> 00:09:08,255 But he's a courageous individual, 187 00:09:08,422 --> 00:09:11,130 and he stuck to his guns, and he changed the world. 188 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,463 NARRATOR: From Lue Elizondo's 2017 AATIP revelations 189 00:09:17,672 --> 00:09:21,588 to the 2023 Congressional UAP hearing, 190 00:09:21,755 --> 00:09:24,630 whistleblowers today are making their voices heard 191 00:09:24,797 --> 00:09:27,005 like never before. 192 00:09:27,130 --> 00:09:31,172 But they are just the latest in a long line of whistleblowers 193 00:09:31,338 --> 00:09:35,630 who've been coming forward to tell their stories for decades. 194 00:09:35,755 --> 00:09:38,338 And the most controversial of their claims-- 195 00:09:38,463 --> 00:09:42,463 that the U.S. military is in possession of alien technology-- 196 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:45,505 can be traced all the way back to 1947 197 00:09:45,672 --> 00:09:48,547 and an Army Air Force Major 198 00:09:48,713 --> 00:09:52,922 who was at the heart of the Roswell incident. 199 00:09:57,963 --> 00:09:59,297 NARRATOR: Roswell, New Mexico. 200 00:09:59,463 --> 00:10:03,047 July 1947. 201 00:10:03,213 --> 00:10:07,005 An unidentified object is witnessed streaking 202 00:10:07,213 --> 00:10:09,505 across the night sky, 203 00:10:09,672 --> 00:10:12,588 then crashes in the desert north of town 204 00:10:12,755 --> 00:10:15,255 near the Roswell Army Air Field. 205 00:10:16,588 --> 00:10:18,922 Rancher Mac Brazel hears the impact 206 00:10:19,130 --> 00:10:22,338 and investigates the next morning. 207 00:10:23,297 --> 00:10:27,005 Mac Brazel is the first to find the debris field, 208 00:10:27,130 --> 00:10:29,463 and it's an impressive debris field. 209 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:32,547 Pieces, objects and things everywhere. 210 00:10:32,713 --> 00:10:35,713 And Brazel reports it to the local Roswell sheriff, 211 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,797 a man named George Wilcox. 212 00:10:38,963 --> 00:10:42,588 And Wilcox, uh, sends some deputies out there, 213 00:10:42,797 --> 00:10:45,338 and, uh, the case just gets crazier from there. 214 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:51,922 Roswell Army Air Field sends people out to investigate it. 215 00:10:52,963 --> 00:10:55,630 The next thing you know, the press release goes out. 216 00:10:55,797 --> 00:10:58,630 "Army captures flying disc." 217 00:10:59,797 --> 00:11:02,172 Shortly after the U.S. Air Force said, 218 00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:05,130 "We've recovered a flying disc," they reversed their position 219 00:11:05,297 --> 00:11:07,172 and said it was just a weather balloon. 220 00:11:07,297 --> 00:11:10,255 NARRATOR: The Roswell incident has become 221 00:11:10,422 --> 00:11:12,130 the most notorious alleged cover-up 222 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:16,255 of a UFO crash and retrieval in U.S. history. 223 00:11:17,713 --> 00:11:20,838 And at the center of it all... 224 00:11:21,005 --> 00:11:24,130 is whistleblower Jesse Marcel. 225 00:11:24,297 --> 00:11:27,172 My grandfather, Major Jesse Marcel, 226 00:11:27,338 --> 00:11:31,005 back in July of 1947, 227 00:11:31,213 --> 00:11:34,713 was the head of intelligence for the 509th bombing group. 228 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,630 That was heavily involved in our atomic program 229 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:39,338 to end the second World War 230 00:11:39,463 --> 00:11:41,005 and pretty well versed 231 00:11:41,213 --> 00:11:43,088 in the latest technologies, aircraft, 232 00:11:43,297 --> 00:11:44,797 what have you at the time. 233 00:11:44,922 --> 00:11:49,088 Major Jesse Marcel was really the lead investigator 234 00:11:49,213 --> 00:11:51,755 into what has become known as the "Roswell incident." 235 00:11:53,047 --> 00:11:56,880 NARRATOR: On July 7, Major Marcel was dispatched 236 00:11:57,047 --> 00:12:01,672 from Roswell Army Air Field to examine the mysterious debris. 237 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:04,922 According to his grandson, 238 00:12:05,047 --> 00:12:07,547 Marcel was so astounded by what he saw 239 00:12:07,755 --> 00:12:09,838 that he took the debris home with him. 240 00:12:10,005 --> 00:12:11,797 JESSE MARCEL III: He... 241 00:12:11,963 --> 00:12:13,838 went and woke up his son, my father, 242 00:12:13,963 --> 00:12:15,297 who was about 12 years old at the time, 243 00:12:15,463 --> 00:12:17,838 and his wife Viaud, and said, 244 00:12:17,963 --> 00:12:19,380 "You guys got to come take a look at this." 245 00:12:20,380 --> 00:12:22,588 He couldn't make heads or tails or any sense 246 00:12:22,755 --> 00:12:24,338 out of what he was looking at. 247 00:12:24,505 --> 00:12:26,463 NARRATOR: Even stranger, 248 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:28,172 while examining the wreckage, 249 00:12:28,297 --> 00:12:32,297 Marcel's family discovered several mysterious markings. 250 00:12:32,380 --> 00:12:33,922 JESSE MARCEL III: One thing they noticed was 251 00:12:34,088 --> 00:12:35,797 it almost had no weight to it. 252 00:12:36,005 --> 00:12:38,963 And my father picked up what was a beam 253 00:12:39,130 --> 00:12:40,755 about 11, 12 inches long. 254 00:12:40,963 --> 00:12:42,922 And all of a sudden, these symbols appeared. 255 00:12:43,088 --> 00:12:45,338 And he really came to the idea 256 00:12:45,547 --> 00:12:49,213 that, whatever this was, it was not made by human hands. 257 00:12:50,213 --> 00:12:53,047 NARRATOR: The next morning, Major Marcel was summoned 258 00:12:53,213 --> 00:12:56,672 to the Fort Worth Army Air Field in Texas. 259 00:12:56,838 --> 00:12:59,338 There, he was given strict orders 260 00:12:59,547 --> 00:13:03,005 not to reveal the truth about the Roswell crash, 261 00:13:03,213 --> 00:13:06,505 and for three decades, he didn't. 262 00:13:06,672 --> 00:13:10,422 But in February of 1978, 263 00:13:10,547 --> 00:13:13,338 Marcel finally broke his silence. 264 00:13:13,463 --> 00:13:16,172 JESSE MARCEL III: My grandfather was a ham radio operator, 265 00:13:16,338 --> 00:13:17,588 loved to talk. 266 00:13:17,713 --> 00:13:19,505 He was talking on ham radio, 267 00:13:19,713 --> 00:13:22,172 and somebody recognized his name as being part of the air base. 268 00:13:22,380 --> 00:13:25,338 And he talked a little bit about Roswell. 269 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:27,713 And soon enough, 270 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,047 a gentleman by the name of Stanton Friedman heard of it, 271 00:13:30,213 --> 00:13:32,797 and interviewed my grandfather about it. 272 00:13:32,963 --> 00:13:34,505 And that was really when it broke out. 273 00:13:34,713 --> 00:13:36,838 NARRATOR: Stanton Friedman was 274 00:13:36,963 --> 00:13:39,172 an American-Canadian nuclear physicist 275 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:42,088 who began scientifically investigating UFOs 276 00:13:42,297 --> 00:13:44,755 in the 1960s, due to his curiosity 277 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,838 about what happened at Roswell. 278 00:13:48,005 --> 00:13:51,338 When he learned that Jesse Marcel was ready 279 00:13:51,505 --> 00:13:53,922 to reveal the truth, he went to visit him 280 00:13:54,130 --> 00:13:57,005 at his home in Southern Louisiana. 281 00:13:58,047 --> 00:14:01,505 Major Marcel told me-- I was the first to talk to him-- 282 00:14:01,713 --> 00:14:03,088 that what they were trying 283 00:14:03,255 --> 00:14:05,797 to keep under wraps was actual wreckage 284 00:14:05,963 --> 00:14:07,963 of a flying saucer. 285 00:14:09,005 --> 00:14:11,088 General Roger Ramey, head of the Eighth Air Force, 286 00:14:11,255 --> 00:14:13,380 covered it up very straightforwardly. 287 00:14:13,588 --> 00:14:16,963 BILL BIRNES: Roger Ramey came to Roswell and said, 288 00:14:17,047 --> 00:14:20,963 "Bring all the UFO material to Fort Worth, 289 00:14:21,088 --> 00:14:24,172 Eighth Air Force headquarters, and we'll disclose the truth." 290 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:28,547 But Major Jesse Marcel goes to Fort Worth, 291 00:14:28,713 --> 00:14:30,547 and they bring out a weather balloon. 292 00:14:30,713 --> 00:14:33,380 And they make Jesse Marcel, 293 00:14:33,505 --> 00:14:37,672 a radar-trained intelligence officer, 294 00:14:37,797 --> 00:14:40,755 stand in front of a weather balloon 295 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:43,172 and admit that he was confused. 296 00:14:46,172 --> 00:14:48,672 FRIEDMAN: Everybody was familiar with weather balloons. 297 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,838 The notion that Jesse Marcel, 298 00:14:50,963 --> 00:14:53,672 the intelligence officer for the 509th, 299 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,005 couldn't recognize a weather balloon is ridiculous. 300 00:14:59,047 --> 00:15:00,880 NARRATOR: According to Friedman, 301 00:15:01,047 --> 00:15:03,005 in order to ensure that the truth 302 00:15:03,172 --> 00:15:05,963 about Roswell remained hidden from the public, 303 00:15:06,130 --> 00:15:08,755 the military not only had 304 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,255 to stage the famous weather balloon photo, 305 00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:14,880 but also make sure that Marcel and others 306 00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:18,005 who knew the real story toed the line. 307 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,630 You agree that you will not reveal anything 308 00:15:23,797 --> 00:15:26,130 you've learned that was classified 309 00:15:26,213 --> 00:15:28,255 to anybody without a need-to-know 310 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:30,088 and an appropriate security clearance. 311 00:15:30,255 --> 00:15:32,588 There are darn few people who, 312 00:15:32,755 --> 00:15:36,255 after the war, incidentally, broke their security oaths. 313 00:15:36,422 --> 00:15:39,005 JESSE MARCEL III: My grandfather broke his bond of secrecy. 314 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:42,505 I think that, in some small part, 315 00:15:42,672 --> 00:15:45,047 he was looking for a little bit of, you know, like, 316 00:15:45,213 --> 00:15:47,297 "Hey, you guys, you know, there is something to this." 317 00:15:48,922 --> 00:15:51,047 NARRATOR: Despite his excitement 318 00:15:51,255 --> 00:15:53,963 over what he had found in the debris field, 319 00:15:54,172 --> 00:15:56,672 Marcel maintained his silence 320 00:15:56,797 --> 00:15:59,047 until he was 70 years old. 321 00:15:59,213 --> 00:16:02,088 POPE: People who are involved in keeping secrets, 322 00:16:02,255 --> 00:16:05,880 it poisons you, and you feel this great release 323 00:16:06,047 --> 00:16:09,005 when you finally get it out 324 00:16:09,213 --> 00:16:10,922 and say, "Yeah, you know, it's all true." 325 00:16:11,047 --> 00:16:13,172 I've spoken to military witnesses 326 00:16:13,380 --> 00:16:15,963 who sat on stories for 50 years 327 00:16:16,088 --> 00:16:20,505 out of loyalty, out of a belief that... 328 00:16:20,713 --> 00:16:23,130 that the law constrained them. 329 00:16:23,255 --> 00:16:26,380 But Marcel, 30 years on, he was like, 330 00:16:26,547 --> 00:16:29,005 "Okay, that's enough of the cover story. 331 00:16:29,172 --> 00:16:31,505 Here's what really happened." 332 00:16:33,422 --> 00:16:37,338 NARRATOR: After Marcel broke his silence in 1978, 333 00:16:37,547 --> 00:16:39,380 it caused a sensation, 334 00:16:39,547 --> 00:16:42,755 and Friedman began referring to the Roswell coverup 335 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,172 as a "cosmic Watergate." 336 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:49,588 Before 1978, the Roswell crash 337 00:16:49,755 --> 00:16:51,463 was pretty much unheard of. 338 00:16:51,630 --> 00:16:53,255 Only in the hardcore groups 339 00:16:53,422 --> 00:16:56,505 of UFO people would you know about Roswell. 340 00:16:56,672 --> 00:16:59,338 Jesse Marcel blew open the door 341 00:16:59,547 --> 00:17:02,838 to the most famous UFO crash story 342 00:17:03,005 --> 00:17:04,838 that you can think of today. 343 00:17:04,963 --> 00:17:08,713 NARRATOR: Could it be that Jesse Marcel is just one 344 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,088 of dozens, or perhaps even hundreds 345 00:17:12,255 --> 00:17:15,838 of military personnel who have witnessed unexplainable events 346 00:17:16,047 --> 00:17:18,672 that they are forbidden to reveal? 347 00:17:19,797 --> 00:17:21,838 UFO researchers suggest 348 00:17:22,005 --> 00:17:24,255 the Roswell incident was the beginning 349 00:17:24,422 --> 00:17:27,088 of a decades-long government coverup. 350 00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:31,172 One that involved an elaborate disinformation campaign 351 00:17:31,338 --> 00:17:34,838 disguised as an official UFO investigation 352 00:17:34,963 --> 00:17:37,630 called "Project Blue Book." 353 00:17:43,047 --> 00:17:44,255 NARRATOR: The famous Roswell incident 354 00:17:44,380 --> 00:17:47,672 was just one of many high-profile encounters 355 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,088 with unidentified flying objects 356 00:17:50,255 --> 00:17:53,588 that occurred during the late 1940s. 357 00:17:54,713 --> 00:17:56,672 In June 1947, 358 00:17:56,838 --> 00:17:58,505 pilot Kenneth Arnold 359 00:17:58,672 --> 00:18:01,755 reported seeing nine silver disc-shaped objects 360 00:18:01,922 --> 00:18:03,588 flying near Mount Rainier. 361 00:18:04,713 --> 00:18:07,005 Less than one month later, 362 00:18:07,172 --> 00:18:09,588 sailor Harold Dahl reported 363 00:18:09,713 --> 00:18:11,630 that a flying disc dropped molten slag 364 00:18:11,797 --> 00:18:15,672 onto his boat near Maury Island, Washington. 365 00:18:15,838 --> 00:18:18,755 And in January 1948, 366 00:18:18,922 --> 00:18:23,797 Army Captain Thomas Mantell tragically died in a plane crash 367 00:18:23,963 --> 00:18:27,172 while chasing a UFO over Western Ohio. 368 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:32,005 These and other similar events prompted the government 369 00:18:32,213 --> 00:18:36,422 to launch Project Blue Book in 1952. 370 00:18:36,547 --> 00:18:38,963 POPE: Project Blue Book was 371 00:18:39,130 --> 00:18:40,505 the U.S. Air Force 372 00:18:40,672 --> 00:18:43,963 research and investigation program into UFOs. 373 00:18:44,088 --> 00:18:46,963 This was a project that took some years, 374 00:18:47,172 --> 00:18:51,130 but by the mid-60s, there's 20,000 cases there. 375 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:55,005 So, this was one of the most significant investigations 376 00:18:55,172 --> 00:18:57,505 of UFOs of its time. 377 00:18:58,713 --> 00:19:01,422 NARRATOR: Project Blue Book would last 18 years, 378 00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:04,297 and involve dozens of investigators. 379 00:19:04,463 --> 00:19:09,088 Chief among them were Air Force Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, 380 00:19:09,255 --> 00:19:12,880 astronomer Jacques Vallรฉe, 381 00:19:13,047 --> 00:19:14,880 and Project Blue Book's scientific advisor, 382 00:19:15,047 --> 00:19:17,880 Dr. J. Allen Hynek. 383 00:19:18,047 --> 00:19:20,838 According to Dr. Hynek's son Paul, 384 00:19:21,047 --> 00:19:25,213 the Air Force made its agenda clear right from the start. 385 00:19:26,505 --> 00:19:28,297 The Air Force came calling to my father 386 00:19:28,463 --> 00:19:31,880 in the late '40s, asking him 387 00:19:32,088 --> 00:19:34,172 to tamp down reports 388 00:19:34,297 --> 00:19:35,505 of flying saucers. 389 00:19:35,713 --> 00:19:38,838 My father was very useful to Project Blue Book 390 00:19:39,047 --> 00:19:41,713 because he had the academic credibility 391 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,755 to get people to believe what he's saying. 392 00:19:45,797 --> 00:19:48,922 POPE: J. Allen Hynek was an astronomy professor, 393 00:19:49,088 --> 00:19:51,838 brought on by the U.S. Air Force. 394 00:19:52,005 --> 00:19:53,213 And to start off with, 395 00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:55,588 he-he absolutely took the party line. 396 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:58,963 NARRATOR: But while the purpose of Project Blue Book 397 00:19:59,130 --> 00:20:01,297 was to discredit UFOs, 398 00:20:01,463 --> 00:20:03,422 over the course of his tenure, 399 00:20:03,547 --> 00:20:06,630 Hynek grew to question the project's mission. 400 00:20:06,713 --> 00:20:10,963 PAUL: My father was muzzled by the Air Force 401 00:20:11,172 --> 00:20:14,547 in terms of what they would investigate, 402 00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:16,588 how serious they would investigate it, 403 00:20:16,755 --> 00:20:18,797 and what he was allowed to disclose. 404 00:20:19,005 --> 00:20:21,172 He had a front row center seat 405 00:20:21,297 --> 00:20:23,505 to the most confidential aspects 406 00:20:23,713 --> 00:20:26,088 of the early days of the UFO phenomena. 407 00:20:26,255 --> 00:20:29,088 And my father went from a diehard skeptic 408 00:20:29,213 --> 00:20:30,880 to an acceptor 409 00:20:31,047 --> 00:20:33,338 of the accumulated weight of the data. 410 00:20:36,172 --> 00:20:39,838 NARRATOR: Hynek's findings were dismissed by his superiors, 411 00:20:40,047 --> 00:20:44,213 who demanded that he continue to debunk UFO reports. 412 00:20:45,213 --> 00:20:48,630 And when Project Blue Book ended in 1969, 413 00:20:48,797 --> 00:20:50,755 Hynek went public. 414 00:20:51,713 --> 00:20:53,963 PAUL: He was really the main person 415 00:20:54,172 --> 00:20:55,672 to draw attention to the fact 416 00:20:55,838 --> 00:21:00,422 that Project Blue Book was not set out to find the truth 417 00:21:00,588 --> 00:21:02,630 but to control the narrative. 418 00:21:03,672 --> 00:21:07,505 NARRATOR: J. Allen Hynek was one of the most outspoken voices 419 00:21:07,713 --> 00:21:11,755 about the government efforts to suppress evidence of UFOs. 420 00:21:12,755 --> 00:21:16,838 And some researchers believe he would have spoken out sooner, 421 00:21:16,963 --> 00:21:18,588 if it wasn't for a tragic event 422 00:21:18,755 --> 00:21:21,005 that happened to one of his colleagues-- 423 00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:24,172 Air Force Captain Edward Ruppelt. 424 00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:28,588 HANKS: Edward Ruppelt was the first director of Project Blue Book. 425 00:21:28,755 --> 00:21:29,797 During his tenure, 426 00:21:29,963 --> 00:21:31,672 which lasted close to two years, 427 00:21:31,797 --> 00:21:35,297 Ruppelt was in charge of all of the best information 428 00:21:35,463 --> 00:21:37,422 that the United States Air Force was acquiring 429 00:21:37,547 --> 00:21:40,422 at that time about-- as he began calling them-- UFOs. 430 00:21:40,588 --> 00:21:42,297 And Ruppelt actually gave us that term, 431 00:21:42,463 --> 00:21:44,047 "unidentified flying object." 432 00:21:44,213 --> 00:21:48,672 CHILDRESS: Project Blue Book was ostensibly a military project 433 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,380 to debunk UFOs, 434 00:21:50,547 --> 00:21:53,505 but Ruppelt wasn't going along with that. 435 00:21:53,713 --> 00:21:56,463 Ruppelt was saying, "Oh, no, there's something going on here. 436 00:21:56,588 --> 00:21:58,422 We need to look at this." 437 00:21:59,797 --> 00:22:02,880 NARRATOR: Captain Ruppelt frequently found himself at odds 438 00:22:03,047 --> 00:22:04,505 with his superiors. 439 00:22:04,672 --> 00:22:08,088 Like when he tried to investigate a major UFO incident 440 00:22:08,255 --> 00:22:11,380 that occurred right over the nation's capital. 441 00:22:12,380 --> 00:22:16,588 On Saturday, July 19, 1952, 442 00:22:16,713 --> 00:22:18,547 at 11:40 p.m., 443 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:22,213 air traffic controllers at Washington National Airport 444 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:23,588 and Andrews Air Force Base 445 00:22:23,797 --> 00:22:27,213 detected seven unidentified flying objects 446 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:29,213 on their radar screens. 447 00:22:29,338 --> 00:22:32,213 The UFO sightings caused a sensation, 448 00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:34,422 and, incredibly, 449 00:22:34,588 --> 00:22:37,172 more unidentified objects were detected again 450 00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:39,338 the following weekend. 451 00:22:39,547 --> 00:22:41,713 HENRY: For two weeks, Washington, D.C., 452 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,755 is buzzed by a fleet of seven UFOs. 453 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,963 They literally fly over the White House, 454 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:49,755 over the Capitol, Washington National Airport. 455 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,547 Ruppelt was in Washington while this is happening, 456 00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:54,213 and he wanted to investigate. 457 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:56,255 And his frustration begins, 458 00:22:56,422 --> 00:22:58,380 because he's told he can't have a staff car 459 00:22:58,547 --> 00:22:59,505 because he's not a general. 460 00:22:59,588 --> 00:23:00,713 If he wants to investigate it, 461 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,463 go get himself a taxi. 462 00:23:03,505 --> 00:23:05,255 NARRATOR: Frustrated by what he saw 463 00:23:05,422 --> 00:23:08,880 as a government effort to debunk all UFOs, 464 00:23:09,047 --> 00:23:14,047 in 1953, Ruppelt resigned from Project Blue Book. 465 00:23:14,213 --> 00:23:18,172 And a few years later, he made his findings public. 466 00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:21,838 HANKS: In 1956, Ruppelt publishes a book 467 00:23:22,005 --> 00:23:24,338 about his experience as the director of Project Blue Book, 468 00:23:24,547 --> 00:23:26,797 The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects. 469 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,838 This book is incredibly important, 470 00:23:29,005 --> 00:23:32,547 because this is the first time that the public gets a glimpse 471 00:23:32,713 --> 00:23:35,047 of the inner workings of the government's investigations 472 00:23:35,255 --> 00:23:37,505 into UFOs from an insider. 473 00:23:37,588 --> 00:23:39,505 DOLAN: One of the things 474 00:23:39,672 --> 00:23:42,713 Ruppelt pointed out in his book that was really interesting 475 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,588 and important was to show that, within the military, 476 00:23:45,713 --> 00:23:47,422 particularly the Air Force, 477 00:23:47,547 --> 00:23:50,630 many of them took UFOs quite seriously and believed 478 00:23:50,838 --> 00:23:52,588 that this was interplanetary. 479 00:23:52,797 --> 00:23:54,755 That was the word they were using back then. 480 00:23:55,797 --> 00:23:59,463 NARRATOR: Ruppelt's book captivated readers across the country. 481 00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:03,005 Its popularity led to an updated version being published 482 00:24:03,172 --> 00:24:04,338 four years later. 483 00:24:04,547 --> 00:24:07,713 But, curiously, in the new printing, 484 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,338 Ruppelt completely reversed his position on the UFO phenomenon. 485 00:24:12,505 --> 00:24:14,422 CHILDRESS: In 1960, 486 00:24:14,588 --> 00:24:18,588 Ruppelt had a second edition of his book, 487 00:24:18,755 --> 00:24:21,047 and he said that UFOs were a hoax, 488 00:24:21,213 --> 00:24:23,130 that they did not exist. 489 00:24:24,172 --> 00:24:26,338 HENRY: The strange thing is, is that he dies 490 00:24:26,547 --> 00:24:27,880 within months of the release of the book. 491 00:24:28,047 --> 00:24:30,797 He's a 37-year-old man who dies of a heart attack. 492 00:24:31,005 --> 00:24:32,505 And now, on top of this, 493 00:24:32,713 --> 00:24:35,172 the UFO community is wondering what happened to him. 494 00:24:35,297 --> 00:24:37,547 Is there a conspiracy here? 495 00:24:37,755 --> 00:24:40,713 It is still one of the most enduring mysteries 496 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,547 of when a UFO investigator essentially left us 497 00:24:45,713 --> 00:24:46,963 before their time. 498 00:24:48,005 --> 00:24:50,797 NARRATOR: Is it possible that Captain Edward Ruppelt 499 00:24:50,963 --> 00:24:54,797 paid the ultimate price for exposing a government cover-up 500 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,672 regarding UFOs? 501 00:24:56,797 --> 00:24:59,380 Perhaps further clues can be found 502 00:24:59,547 --> 00:25:01,338 in the statements of another whistleblower 503 00:25:01,505 --> 00:25:04,297 who claimed to have reverse engineered 504 00:25:04,463 --> 00:25:06,880 an alien spacecraft. 505 00:25:13,047 --> 00:25:16,838 NARRATOR: Throughout the 1950s, '60s and '70s, 506 00:25:17,047 --> 00:25:20,880 dozens of whistleblowers came forward with incredible claims 507 00:25:21,047 --> 00:25:25,130 about the government's knowledge of extraterrestrial visitation. 508 00:25:26,297 --> 00:25:28,672 But for many UFO researchers, 509 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,547 the most important revelations of all 510 00:25:30,713 --> 00:25:33,255 came in the late 1980s, 511 00:25:33,463 --> 00:25:37,713 from a physicist named Bob Lazar. 512 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,005 The first person Lazar told his story to was his close friend, 513 00:25:42,172 --> 00:25:45,588 retired CIA pilot John Lear. 514 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,797 Bob Lazar used to work at Los Alamos. 515 00:25:49,797 --> 00:25:52,505 Had the highest clearance that you can get there. 516 00:25:52,672 --> 00:25:55,630 And he worked for 517 00:25:55,755 --> 00:25:58,797 three or four months up there at Area 51. 518 00:25:59,547 --> 00:26:02,213 NARRATOR: While working at the top-secret Air Force facility 519 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:05,338 known as Area 51, 520 00:26:05,463 --> 00:26:07,422 Lazar revealed to his friend 521 00:26:07,630 --> 00:26:09,922 that a remarkable object was hidden deep 522 00:26:10,088 --> 00:26:13,213 within the secret military compound. 523 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:16,672 LEAR: Was December 6 of '88. 524 00:26:16,797 --> 00:26:19,463 He comes in, he sits down there at, uh, my desk 525 00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:22,005 and he said, "I saw a disc today." 526 00:26:22,172 --> 00:26:23,505 And I said, "What?" 527 00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:25,088 He said, "I saw a disc." 528 00:26:26,088 --> 00:26:28,130 And I said, "You saw a flying saucer?" 529 00:26:28,297 --> 00:26:30,130 He said, "Yeah. Sure did. 530 00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:31,505 "I saw 'em. I touched 'em. 531 00:26:31,672 --> 00:26:33,463 They are real." 532 00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:34,713 And I said, "Well, there's no reason 533 00:26:34,922 --> 00:26:36,588 "you should be here right now, 534 00:26:36,755 --> 00:26:39,130 "because they're going to have followed you. 535 00:26:39,213 --> 00:26:41,172 They know exactly what you're doing." 536 00:26:42,338 --> 00:26:43,713 NARRATOR: Four months later, 537 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,005 Lear learned that his concerns about Lazar 538 00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:49,797 being watched by the military were well-founded. 539 00:26:49,922 --> 00:26:52,422 Lazar revealed that Air Force officers 540 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:54,505 at Area 51 had approached him 541 00:26:54,672 --> 00:26:57,130 to let him know that they had been keeping track 542 00:26:57,297 --> 00:27:00,838 -of not only him but also his wife. -(shutter clicking) 543 00:27:01,047 --> 00:27:02,463 LEAR: They had some private information 544 00:27:02,588 --> 00:27:04,713 that his wife was having an affair. 545 00:27:05,713 --> 00:27:07,755 Said, "We can't have anybody working with us 546 00:27:07,922 --> 00:27:09,838 "who has, uh, family problems like that. 547 00:27:10,047 --> 00:27:12,505 "So we need to suspend your work up there 548 00:27:12,713 --> 00:27:15,713 until, uh, you get things sorted out." 549 00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:21,088 And that was April 7 of '89. 550 00:27:21,213 --> 00:27:24,255 And, uh, that's when he decided to go public. 551 00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:26,088 NARRATOR: With Bob's permission, 552 00:27:26,255 --> 00:27:28,672 Lear shared his story with a reporter he knew 553 00:27:28,838 --> 00:27:31,172 at the local KLAS-TV station, 554 00:27:31,338 --> 00:27:32,797 George Knapp. 555 00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:36,255 On May 15, Knapp sat down with Lazar 556 00:27:36,463 --> 00:27:38,922 for a live interview. 557 00:27:39,088 --> 00:27:41,755 KNAPP: We had a five-minute live interview segment every night. 558 00:27:41,922 --> 00:27:43,672 And I don't remember who it was that day, 559 00:27:43,838 --> 00:27:45,672 but they canceled late in the day. 560 00:27:45,838 --> 00:27:47,213 And I didn't know what we were gonna do. 561 00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:49,547 And I thought, "I wonder if Lear's UFO buddy 562 00:27:49,672 --> 00:27:50,630 might be available." 563 00:27:50,755 --> 00:27:52,672 I had no idea who Bob Lazar was. 564 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,922 And so we sent a live unit up to Lear's home. 565 00:27:56,088 --> 00:27:58,838 This skinny, bespectacled guy comes out. 566 00:27:59,005 --> 00:28:01,338 We had to hide his identity. Silhouette. 567 00:28:01,505 --> 00:28:04,880 We used a pseudonym and we started interviewing 568 00:28:05,047 --> 00:28:06,797 and out spills this story 569 00:28:06,963 --> 00:28:11,922 of a secret facility built up in the Area 51 complex. 570 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,672 Exactly what's going on up there? 571 00:28:14,838 --> 00:28:17,005 LAZAR: Well, there's several, uh... 572 00:28:17,172 --> 00:28:21,213 actually, nine, uh, flying saucers, flying discs, 573 00:28:21,422 --> 00:28:24,755 uh, that are out there of extraterrestrial origin. 574 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,338 And they're being test-flown 575 00:28:26,547 --> 00:28:29,338 and, uh, basically just analyzed. 576 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,172 It is the highest-rated locally produced series 577 00:28:34,297 --> 00:28:35,755 ever airing in Las Vegas. 578 00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:38,297 And it changed the course of my life. 579 00:28:39,297 --> 00:28:41,922 NARRATOR: After Lazar's sensational claim, 580 00:28:42,088 --> 00:28:46,213 Area 51 became the center of public interest. 581 00:28:46,338 --> 00:28:48,380 And UFO enthusiasts 582 00:28:48,547 --> 00:28:50,963 began to comb the Nevada desert 583 00:28:51,047 --> 00:28:54,797 in search of the secret military installation. 584 00:28:55,797 --> 00:28:58,838 Bob Lazar ultimately revealed his identity. 585 00:28:58,922 --> 00:29:03,213 And once he did, his life would never be the same. 586 00:29:03,422 --> 00:29:04,755 TSOUKALOS: Bob Lazar, 587 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,880 he was ripped apart for this information. 588 00:29:09,047 --> 00:29:11,255 In fact, it got so bad 589 00:29:11,422 --> 00:29:13,380 where his house was broken in, 590 00:29:13,547 --> 00:29:14,588 he was harassed, 591 00:29:14,755 --> 00:29:16,630 his family was threatened. 592 00:29:16,797 --> 00:29:19,213 KNAPP: Lazar thought he was gonna be killed. 593 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:20,672 We were being followed. 594 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,130 We were being tracked. 595 00:29:22,297 --> 00:29:23,255 Our phones were tapped. 596 00:29:23,380 --> 00:29:24,838 We were being watched. 597 00:29:25,047 --> 00:29:27,755 I mean, I made an open appeal to our audience. 598 00:29:27,922 --> 00:29:29,547 I said, "Look, I know there are people 599 00:29:29,713 --> 00:29:31,130 "who are watching this program now 600 00:29:31,255 --> 00:29:33,047 "who know about the reverse engineering. 601 00:29:33,213 --> 00:29:34,838 And I want you to reach out to me." 602 00:29:34,963 --> 00:29:36,838 And six times in a row, 603 00:29:36,963 --> 00:29:38,838 people who contacted me, 604 00:29:39,005 --> 00:29:40,797 offered to meet with me and go on camera, 605 00:29:40,922 --> 00:29:42,922 were visited the very next day 606 00:29:43,088 --> 00:29:45,297 by people purporting to be government agents 607 00:29:45,463 --> 00:29:47,630 who told them to shut the hell up or else. 608 00:29:47,713 --> 00:29:50,505 And in a couple of those cases, they were threatened with death. 609 00:29:52,755 --> 00:29:54,755 NARRATOR: Faced with constant harassment, 610 00:29:54,922 --> 00:29:57,422 Lazar retreated from public view. 611 00:29:57,588 --> 00:30:01,005 Then, in 2013, 612 00:30:01,172 --> 00:30:05,505 24 years after Bob Lazar's explosive interview, 613 00:30:05,713 --> 00:30:07,838 a Freedom of Information Act request 614 00:30:08,047 --> 00:30:13,422 forced the government to finally reveal the existence of Area 51. 615 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:17,005 While Air Force officials still denied 616 00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:19,047 that the facility had anything to do 617 00:30:19,213 --> 00:30:21,755 with extraterrestrial craft or beings, 618 00:30:21,922 --> 00:30:25,630 Lazar felt a sense of vindication. 619 00:30:25,797 --> 00:30:29,213 In 2018, he decided 620 00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:33,713 to share his story in filmmaker Jeremy Corbell's documentary 621 00:30:33,838 --> 00:30:38,463 titled Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers. 622 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,463 LAZAR: In the late 1980s, 623 00:30:42,588 --> 00:30:47,255 the U.S. government had recovered alien spacecraft, 624 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:48,672 several of them, 625 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,588 and the technology in the Nevada desert 626 00:30:51,755 --> 00:30:54,213 that they were keeping quiet and analyzing. 627 00:30:55,297 --> 00:30:56,505 That's a fact. 628 00:30:56,713 --> 00:31:00,588 I think after he saw some time passing 629 00:31:00,755 --> 00:31:04,505 and saw how people were saying things that he never said, 630 00:31:04,672 --> 00:31:06,755 it just finally got to him. 631 00:31:06,922 --> 00:31:08,463 And he's a fighter. So I think he just got 632 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:10,338 to a point where he was saying, "Okay, enough is enough. 633 00:31:10,505 --> 00:31:12,255 Here we go. What do you want to know?" 634 00:31:12,422 --> 00:31:14,963 I don't like being in the public eye. 635 00:31:15,130 --> 00:31:16,755 I don't have money for doing this. 636 00:31:16,922 --> 00:31:18,672 And, quite frankly, I could make up a better lie. 637 00:31:18,672 --> 00:31:19,547 And, quite frankly, I could make up a better lie. 638 00:31:19,672 --> 00:31:22,505 But I have no motivation to lie. 639 00:31:24,047 --> 00:31:27,130 KNAPP: Jeremy's film was an atomic bomb all over again. 640 00:31:27,297 --> 00:31:31,005 A whole new generation of people got to learn about Bob Lazar. 641 00:31:32,005 --> 00:31:33,838 And I think it inspired some of the people 642 00:31:34,047 --> 00:31:36,838 who are now coming forward as-as whistleblowers 643 00:31:37,005 --> 00:31:39,213 to go ahead and have the courage to speak up. 644 00:31:40,338 --> 00:31:42,338 NARRATOR: Could it be that Bob Lazar 645 00:31:42,547 --> 00:31:45,588 was targeted by a campaign to suppress the truth 646 00:31:45,713 --> 00:31:49,338 about alien technology at Area 51? 647 00:31:49,547 --> 00:31:53,422 Many believe Lazar's willingness to come forward 648 00:31:53,588 --> 00:31:56,255 opened the door for another whistleblower, 649 00:31:56,422 --> 00:32:00,172 one who exposed a conspiracy so vast it would take him 650 00:32:00,297 --> 00:32:04,297 into the halls of the United States Congress. 651 00:32:13,130 --> 00:32:15,672 NARRATOR: The Debrief, a science news website, 652 00:32:15,838 --> 00:32:18,088 publishes a sensational interview 653 00:32:18,213 --> 00:32:22,547 with military intelligence officer David Grusch. 654 00:32:22,755 --> 00:32:24,130 POPE: David Grusch, 655 00:32:24,297 --> 00:32:27,963 he's a former intelligence community officer, 656 00:32:28,088 --> 00:32:31,880 he served on the UAP Task Force 657 00:32:32,047 --> 00:32:34,838 under the directorship of Jay Stratton, 658 00:32:34,963 --> 00:32:36,963 and he was a representative 659 00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:41,922 of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. 660 00:32:42,088 --> 00:32:44,088 While I was on the UAP Task Force, 661 00:32:44,255 --> 00:32:47,005 Dave Grusch was given the job 662 00:32:47,213 --> 00:32:50,838 to go and start interviewing people 663 00:32:51,047 --> 00:32:53,172 who worked on a previous UFO program, 664 00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:55,172 see what they were willing to tell us. 665 00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:57,255 And he found a lot of things. 666 00:32:57,422 --> 00:33:00,463 NARRATOR: In the Debrief article, Grusch revealed 667 00:33:00,672 --> 00:33:03,588 that as part of his official duties at the Pentagon, 668 00:33:03,797 --> 00:33:06,297 he was informed of a decades-long, 669 00:33:06,422 --> 00:33:10,838 top secret military program to recover and reverse engineer 670 00:33:11,005 --> 00:33:13,838 crashed craft of nonhuman origin. 671 00:33:13,963 --> 00:33:16,838 POPE: It was his job to go and interview 672 00:33:16,922 --> 00:33:19,130 some of the people in the system 673 00:33:19,338 --> 00:33:23,630 who are actively responsible for keeping it secret. 674 00:33:23,713 --> 00:33:25,338 And he says it's all real. 675 00:33:25,547 --> 00:33:27,338 Everything you've heard, everything you've been told, 676 00:33:27,463 --> 00:33:30,255 all the rumors about crashed UFOs, 677 00:33:30,422 --> 00:33:32,630 dead bodies, it's all true. 678 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,838 DOLAN: Grusch interviewed, he said, 679 00:33:35,005 --> 00:33:36,463 about 40 witnesses 680 00:33:36,588 --> 00:33:39,005 within the national security establishment. 681 00:33:39,172 --> 00:33:42,172 He stated that there are 682 00:33:42,338 --> 00:33:45,297 multiple alien craft, 683 00:33:45,463 --> 00:33:47,713 uh, that the United States government 684 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,505 or its licensed private contractors have possession of. 685 00:33:51,713 --> 00:33:55,088 And he stated that there were what he called "biologics" 686 00:33:55,255 --> 00:33:56,380 that were recovered. 687 00:33:56,547 --> 00:33:58,713 That's his word for alien bodies. 688 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,672 TAYLOR: I've been in a secure environment with Dave 689 00:34:02,838 --> 00:34:06,005 and have had been briefed on everything that he's uncovered, 690 00:34:06,172 --> 00:34:09,922 and, uh, everything that he's saying in public 691 00:34:10,088 --> 00:34:14,130 has been approved by, uh, the-the Defense Department 692 00:34:14,297 --> 00:34:16,338 and, also, by the Inspector General. 693 00:34:16,505 --> 00:34:19,838 There's a-a "there" there, as-as the saying goes, 694 00:34:20,005 --> 00:34:24,047 and, uh, we would all be wise to listen to the stories. 695 00:34:24,213 --> 00:34:27,838 NARRATOR: Astonished by the scope of the project, 696 00:34:28,005 --> 00:34:30,672 Grusch came forward as a whistleblower. 697 00:34:30,838 --> 00:34:33,630 DOLAN: He decided that the Pentagon was withholding critical information 698 00:34:33,797 --> 00:34:37,213 on this subject from Congress, which he argued was illegal. 699 00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:40,422 And he, uh, ended up issuing a complaint about this 700 00:34:40,588 --> 00:34:42,005 to the Inspector General's office 701 00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:43,338 of the intelligence community. 702 00:34:43,547 --> 00:34:47,713 NARRATOR: On July 26, 2023, 703 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,088 just seven weeks after going public, 704 00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:54,088 David Grusch and two other whistleblowers 705 00:34:54,255 --> 00:34:57,922 testified before a Congressional hearing. 706 00:34:58,047 --> 00:35:01,088 I have taken every step I can to corroborate this evidence 707 00:35:01,255 --> 00:35:03,130 over a period of four years 708 00:35:03,297 --> 00:35:05,338 while I was with the UAP Task Force, 709 00:35:05,505 --> 00:35:08,130 and do my due diligence on the individuals sharing it. 710 00:35:08,255 --> 00:35:10,880 Uh, this is-- Because of these steps, 711 00:35:11,047 --> 00:35:13,838 I believe strongly, uh, in the importance 712 00:35:14,047 --> 00:35:15,963 of bringing this information before you. 713 00:35:16,088 --> 00:35:17,630 NARRATOR: During his testimony, 714 00:35:17,797 --> 00:35:22,255 Grusch revealed specific details of military UAP encounters. 715 00:35:22,422 --> 00:35:25,255 He also stated that despite having nothing to gain 716 00:35:25,422 --> 00:35:28,422 by disclosing this information, 717 00:35:28,547 --> 00:35:33,547 his testimony made him a target for significant repercussions. 718 00:35:33,713 --> 00:35:35,047 BURCHETT: Mr. Grusch, 719 00:35:35,213 --> 00:35:37,338 have you faced any retaliation or reprisals 720 00:35:37,547 --> 00:35:39,713 for any of your testimony or anything? 721 00:35:39,922 --> 00:35:43,630 Yeah, uh, I have to be careful what I say in detail 722 00:35:43,797 --> 00:35:45,338 because there is an open, uh, 723 00:35:45,505 --> 00:35:48,422 whistleblower reprisal investigation on my behalf, 724 00:35:48,588 --> 00:35:50,172 and I don't want to compromise that investigation. 725 00:35:50,338 --> 00:35:54,130 But it was very brutal and, uh, very unfortunate, 726 00:35:54,297 --> 00:35:56,672 some of the tactics they used to, 727 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,255 um, hurt me both professionally 728 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:00,755 and-and personally, to be quite frank. 729 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,672 LUNA: We were told that individuals had been killed 730 00:36:04,797 --> 00:36:06,422 protecting this information. 731 00:36:06,547 --> 00:36:11,005 He's in fear of his life as well as the, uh, safety of his wife. 732 00:36:11,172 --> 00:36:13,838 There is something more nefarious at play here. 733 00:36:14,047 --> 00:36:17,588 NARRATOR: Almost immediately following his dramatic testimony, 734 00:36:17,755 --> 00:36:21,172 articles in the press attempted to discredit Grusch, 735 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,630 making a string of accusations aimed at questioning 736 00:36:24,797 --> 00:36:26,505 his mental state. 737 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:30,880 LUNA: They tried to say that because he had deployed 738 00:36:31,047 --> 00:36:32,838 and some of his friends have died, 739 00:36:32,963 --> 00:36:34,672 he might have PTSD. 740 00:36:34,797 --> 00:36:37,255 They tried to discredit him, which is just 741 00:36:37,422 --> 00:36:39,338 the most egregious smear that they could ever run 742 00:36:39,547 --> 00:36:41,880 on a military service member. 743 00:36:42,047 --> 00:36:45,797 SHEEHAN: The article sensationalized his mental difficulties. 744 00:36:45,922 --> 00:36:47,338 And it turns out that, uh, 745 00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:49,880 the author of it actually acknowledged, 746 00:36:50,047 --> 00:36:53,255 publicly, that he had been contacted by, uh, sources 747 00:36:53,422 --> 00:36:57,172 inside the Defense Department and directed to do this. 748 00:36:58,547 --> 00:37:00,672 MACE: We have a generations-long history 749 00:37:00,838 --> 00:37:04,547 of the federal government trying to discredit witnesses, 750 00:37:04,713 --> 00:37:06,922 and I believe we saw that with David Grusch. 751 00:37:07,088 --> 00:37:09,338 NARRATOR: The U.S. military denies 752 00:37:09,505 --> 00:37:12,880 David Grusch's sensational allegations. 753 00:37:13,047 --> 00:37:15,630 But if what he says isn't true, 754 00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,088 then why did members of the Defense Department 755 00:37:18,213 --> 00:37:21,338 actively try to discredit his testimony? 756 00:37:21,547 --> 00:37:24,047 The claims made by David Grusch, 757 00:37:24,213 --> 00:37:26,380 and other whistleblowers like him, 758 00:37:26,547 --> 00:37:28,880 have brought more attention to the UFO phenomenon 759 00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:31,380 than ever before. 760 00:37:31,547 --> 00:37:35,505 And ancient astronaut theorists believe that the truth 761 00:37:35,672 --> 00:37:38,338 about an extraterrestrial presence on Earth 762 00:37:38,463 --> 00:37:41,338 may finally be revealed. 763 00:37:50,172 --> 00:37:51,672 NARRATOR: After more than 70 years 764 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,422 of whistleblower testimony 765 00:37:53,588 --> 00:37:55,172 claiming that the U.S. government 766 00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:58,422 is covering up the truth about UFOs, 767 00:37:58,588 --> 00:38:02,588 members of Congress finally decide to take action. 768 00:38:02,755 --> 00:38:05,255 I'm pleased the NDAA will include my amendment 769 00:38:05,422 --> 00:38:07,672 on increasing transparency on UAPs, 770 00:38:07,838 --> 00:38:10,672 or unidentified anomalous phenomena. 771 00:38:10,838 --> 00:38:13,838 NARRATOR: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer sponsors 772 00:38:14,047 --> 00:38:17,505 the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act. 773 00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:19,672 The bill would require the release 774 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,672 of all government knowledge of UAPs. 775 00:38:22,838 --> 00:38:26,255 But UFO researchers are left frustrated 776 00:38:26,422 --> 00:38:30,463 when it is finally signed into law five months later. 777 00:38:30,588 --> 00:38:34,922 Some really robust and new whistleblower provisions 778 00:38:35,088 --> 00:38:36,088 were drafted, 779 00:38:36,213 --> 00:38:38,338 but not a lot of that 780 00:38:38,505 --> 00:38:41,172 actually made it into the final bill. 781 00:38:41,297 --> 00:38:43,755 In fact, a lot of the really interesting 782 00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:46,880 UAP-related provisions were negotiated out. 783 00:38:47,005 --> 00:38:51,963 No independent review board, no eminent domain provision. 784 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,880 No extra whistleblower protections. 785 00:38:55,047 --> 00:38:57,838 NARRATOR: Were these changes to the legislation 786 00:38:58,005 --> 00:39:01,713 simply part of a routine political process? 787 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,005 Or might it be the latest attempt by the government 788 00:39:05,213 --> 00:39:08,338 to suppress information about UFOs? 789 00:39:08,463 --> 00:39:12,588 Either way, many UFO researchers remain optimistic 790 00:39:12,755 --> 00:39:15,505 that we have entered an age in which more whistleblowers 791 00:39:15,713 --> 00:39:18,838 will come forward than ever before. 792 00:39:19,005 --> 00:39:21,838 The fact that Congress gutted this legislation, 793 00:39:22,005 --> 00:39:25,005 uh, a lot of people in UFO world see that as the end. 794 00:39:25,172 --> 00:39:27,088 It's just the beginning. 795 00:39:27,255 --> 00:39:28,255 And I think that what's gonna happen 796 00:39:28,422 --> 00:39:30,213 over the next months and years 797 00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:31,672 is that additional whistleblowers 798 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,797 are gonna go public, 799 00:39:32,963 --> 00:39:34,505 and they're gonna release documents 800 00:39:34,672 --> 00:39:36,130 and they're gonna release videos 801 00:39:36,297 --> 00:39:38,088 that are gonna be very compelling. 802 00:39:38,297 --> 00:39:42,338 CHILDRESS: Much of the information that we've gotten about UFOs 803 00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:44,255 has been from whistleblowers. 804 00:39:44,422 --> 00:39:47,422 People who, uh, are insiders, 805 00:39:47,547 --> 00:39:49,255 they're in the military, 806 00:39:49,422 --> 00:39:53,172 and they think that people should know these things. 807 00:39:53,338 --> 00:39:56,005 And so, they risk themselves 808 00:39:56,172 --> 00:39:58,297 by becoming whistleblowers. 809 00:39:58,422 --> 00:40:00,088 HENRY: For the past eight decades, 810 00:40:00,213 --> 00:40:04,005 the heroes of this movement have always been the whistleblowers, 811 00:40:04,130 --> 00:40:07,963 the insiders who decide that the powers that be 812 00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:10,380 can't withhold this information from the American people-- 813 00:40:10,588 --> 00:40:12,630 and, indeed, the human race-- any longer. 814 00:40:12,797 --> 00:40:14,255 They're dedicated, ultimately, 815 00:40:14,422 --> 00:40:16,505 to what all of us are seeking: the truth. 816 00:40:16,713 --> 00:40:19,005 TSOUKALOS: It is the whistleblowers 817 00:40:19,172 --> 00:40:21,422 who will move us one step closer 818 00:40:21,588 --> 00:40:24,505 to answering the extraterrestrial question. 819 00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:27,338 It's about time that we're being told the truth 820 00:40:27,505 --> 00:40:29,505 because we can handle the truth. 821 00:40:29,588 --> 00:40:31,547 We're told we can't, but we can. 822 00:40:31,713 --> 00:40:33,505 And so, I think we now live 823 00:40:33,713 --> 00:40:35,630 in one of the most exciting times 824 00:40:35,797 --> 00:40:38,547 in the entire history of our planet. 825 00:40:38,713 --> 00:40:41,338 NARRATOR: In the wake of the whistleblower hearing before Congress, 826 00:40:41,547 --> 00:40:45,547 could even more incredible secrets soon be revealed? 827 00:40:45,755 --> 00:40:48,797 Secrets involving knowledge of a real 828 00:40:48,963 --> 00:40:52,005 extraterrestrial presence on Earth? 829 00:40:52,172 --> 00:40:54,338 For now, the fact that UFOs 830 00:40:54,505 --> 00:40:57,338 are being discussed in the mainstream press, 831 00:40:57,547 --> 00:41:00,630 and Congress, represents monumental progress. 832 00:41:00,797 --> 00:41:03,630 POPE: If we ever learn the full truth about UFOs, 833 00:41:03,755 --> 00:41:06,547 whistleblowers will undoubtedly have played 834 00:41:06,713 --> 00:41:09,797 a key role in getting that truth out. 835 00:41:09,963 --> 00:41:12,505 We'll look back at the history of some of these people, 836 00:41:12,713 --> 00:41:14,838 and we'll name the names and say, 837 00:41:15,047 --> 00:41:19,588 "These are the people who enabled this to be done." 838 00:41:19,755 --> 00:41:22,547 I see it as the Mount Rushmore of ufology, 839 00:41:22,713 --> 00:41:25,172 that one day, we'll have those faces 840 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:27,380 carved in stone somewhere. 841 00:41:27,547 --> 00:41:30,047 Hynek, Ruppelt, 842 00:41:30,213 --> 00:41:33,380 Elizondo, Grusch and many others. 843 00:41:33,588 --> 00:41:35,797 They're all heroes. 844 00:41:35,963 --> 00:41:39,172 NARRATOR: What if the incredible claims of UFO whistleblowers 845 00:41:39,338 --> 00:41:41,588 are all true? 846 00:41:41,713 --> 00:41:45,547 Could it be that first contact with extraterrestrials 847 00:41:45,713 --> 00:41:49,797 does not lie in the near future but has already happened? 848 00:41:49,963 --> 00:41:53,922 Perhaps, as more whistleblowers continue to come forward,, 849 00:41:54,088 --> 00:41:57,922 the full truth will finally be revealed... 850 00:41:58,088 --> 00:42:03,172 and we will discover that we are not alone, 851 00:42:03,297 --> 00:42:06,255 even on our own planet. 852 00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:08,172 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 64327

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