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-I've been feeling guilty
for the last 20 years.
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But I had to protect my family.
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This is why I never came forward.
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That night it was dark,
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driving up the mountain road.
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But I had full beam on
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and it lit up the whole lane.
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And when I come 'round that corner,
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he was in the middle of the road.
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I slammed on the brakes.
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The person I saw was by here.
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He ran cross here like this
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and he looked directly at me
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and I had perfect view of that person.
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Perfect view.
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And I know for a fact it was that person.
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The man in question.
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I've lived with this for so many years.
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I just want justice for that family.
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This was and still is
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the biggest murder inquiry
ever seen in South Wales.
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After months often frustrating work,
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police have now arrested a 38 year old man
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on suspicion of murder.
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-For four days and they released the bastard!
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There's been no let-up
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in the intense police activity at the house
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in Trethwyn Road, a few miles
up the valley from Clydach.
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Neighbors were awoken
just after seven o'clock
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and saw David Morris
being led away by the police.
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-There's a lot of police here, I know.
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I woke up this morning,
just all I could see is
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police everywhere and sergeants
and you know what I mean,
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it was, uh...
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It was loads everywhere like.
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This new arrest is the latest development
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in the biggest murder inquiry ever mounted
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by South Wales Police.
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It's nearly two years
since the battered bodies
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of three generations of the same family
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were found in their burned-out
home in Kelvin Road.
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Teams of officers also
search land adjoining a stream
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near the suspect's house
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as word of the arrest reached Clydach.
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-People have been coming in and
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that's all they're talking about is that, er,
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the new developments and the fact that
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the police are looking to resolve the case.
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David Morris is now being held
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at an unnamed police station,
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where he's being questioned
by senior detectives.
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This interview is being tape recorded
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and video recorded.
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When the light is eliminated,
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the interview is being monitored.
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Okay, David, you understand that?
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Yeah.
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The reason for this interview is because
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you've been arrested on
suspicion of being involved
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in the murders of Doris
Violet Dawson, 80 years,
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Amanda Jane Power, 34 years,
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Katie Jane Power, 10 years,
and Emily Jane Power, 8 years.
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This is my opportunity to question you
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regarding this murder.
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It is also your opportunity
to explain your involvement...
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After an 11 week trial,
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this was the moment the family of the victims
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had waited for for so long.
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Justice at last for their loved ones.
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-It has been three long and difficult years
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sinc Mum, Mandy, Katie, and Emily were
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so cruelly taken from us.
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And today we know that
evil person responsible for this
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will spend the rest of his life behind bars.
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David Morris's family, though,
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are looking to lawyers to launch an appeal.
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-We are devastated by the verdict.
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We're all with you, darlings!
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Thank you.
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-But we are unable to understand the evidence
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that was presented to the court.
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We are told by David's lawyers
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that there are good grounds
for an appeal, which will be...
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commenced straight away.
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We are confident that justice will prevail.
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If I thought for one minute my brother was
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the Clydach murderer, he would be dead to me.
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How can you be so sure?
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-That's a question I've been asked before and
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that's the other thing that people have said,
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"Are you sticking by
him through blind faith?"
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and "You're ignoring things."
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I'm not ignoring anything.
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I know my brother.
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I know my brother a hundred
percent like he knows me.
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Inside out.
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He had so much patience with his children.
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He always did.
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Yes, he used to get into trouble.
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We've never tried to paint a
perfect picture of my brother.
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But he's not the monster
that they made him out to be.
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You went to Mandy's that night.
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Something happened in that house
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and you committed the murders.
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-You know it wasn't me.
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Are you sure?
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-I'm positive.
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I've got no,
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I had no reason to hurt
Mandy or her children.
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I got no possible reason whatsoever.
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You know, why the bloody hell would I do it?
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Okay.
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Before we, I mean saying what you did there,
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did you go there, David?
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-No.
-We knew he didn't do it.
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So we honestly thought, no,
he's not gonna get charged.
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They're gonna question him, he'll be home.
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And then I thought, well,
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knowing South Wales Police
reputation, then we were scared.
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Then we were really scared because we knew
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pretty much what they're capable of.
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-Innocent!
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-Fucking innocent, man.
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Fucking set up!
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One police force in Britain
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has a disturbing record of
locking up the wrong people
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in murder cases.
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-This is what they do!
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-This is what they do to us!
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-What they tried to do to us!
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Wayne and Paul Darvell,
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free men after seven long years in custody
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for a murder they didn't commit.
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-Have you got anything to say about
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the police officers who
actually stitched you up?
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-No comment, no.
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No comment.
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-I'm delighted to be freed
by the Court of Appeal.
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I'm delighted to have been cleared.
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It's taken an awful long time.
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-I want to be with my kids and my husband.
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With my family.
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They got too much previous
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for getting things wrong,
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But not just getting things wrong,
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getting things deliberately wrong, you know?
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Okay, thanks.
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How confident are you
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that Dave Morris is the Clydach murderer?
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-Hundred percent.
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I have no doubt at all
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that David Morris is the killer.
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No doubt at all.
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A forensic review is to be carried out
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on the evidence which helped convict
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a Swansea Valley man for the murders
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of three generations of the same family.
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In October, "BBC Wales
Investigates" raised new questions
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about the guilt of David Morris,
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who was jailed in 2006.
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We can't deny that there is a huge movement
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in support of Dai Morris.
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There's politicians coming forward
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saying this case needs to be looked at.
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Why do you think that he has this support?
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-This case has been looked at
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and looked at and looked at and explored.
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I'm puzzled as to why people can't see Morris
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for what he is.
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We're putting to you, David,
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what witness statements are saying.
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David, it's not as though
it's going out from here.
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-No, I...
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Those statements have come back...
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-I understand that, but I
can't understand why you,
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I can't understand,
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I honestly can't understand
why this is happening.
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I...
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I can't.
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I honestly can't understand
why it's happening.
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-Can you imagine anybody ever saying,
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"I'm the monster that's done this?"
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That's never gonna happen.
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What does this say about them as a person,
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if they make these admissions?
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That concludes this interview.
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Is there anything you wish to add
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or anything you would like to say?
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This is the last time we
will be speaking to you.
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-Er, yeah, I...
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I haven't done anything.
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I admit I lied,
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but I am not responsible for any murders.
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Okay.
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The time is now 5:39 p.m. and
we're stopping the recording.
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-This case will never go away.
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Certainly not in Clydach.
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There's lots of rumors and innuendos.
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Everybody wants to be an armchair detective,
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but they don't know the facts.
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It's something which is almost beyond belief,
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the actual true story of this case.
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Wales have opened
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the New Millennium Stadium in Cardiff
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with an historic win over the
world champion, South Africa.
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Their 29-19 victory overshadowed
problems at the turnstiles,
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which caused an 18 minute delay to the start.
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This crucial second try
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from Gareth Thomas.
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Sensing that rugby history was being made,
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the bulldozer tackling and...
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I was up late that night, sewing.
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It was a very close night, very, very warm.
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Shall I put your tea away, then, Rosemary?
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With pleasure.
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Thank you.
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When you look across the road, Rosemary,
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when you see the awful site of that house.
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-Doesn't worry me.
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It does not worry me at all.
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What worries me is what
happened inside the house.
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Do you think you'll all be able to...
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-No.
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No.
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Get on about...
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-You can say your
prayers as much as you like,
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but it isn't, er, it just won't go away.
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It's not going to go away.
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So, what happened next, then?
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-I went to bed at quarter to one.
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And I noticed across the
road, there was no light
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in Mandy's house and very, very dark.
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Very, very dark.
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I woke when I heard a
vehicle coming across the road
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and it sounded like diesel.
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And it stopped outside and I thought,
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"Who on earth is that?"
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And I thought, "Oh,
somebody's going into Mandy's."
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And with that, the door opened.
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I know it was pitch dark,
but I could slightly hear it.
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And with that, the light came on.
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At that point, I thought it was Mandy.
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But knowing now it wasn't,
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because she got home at
ten to 12 with the children.
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Who do you think that person was?
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-I really don't know.
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But whoever came back that time,
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must have come back
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to set the house on fire.
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Hello?
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Oh, hello.
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We've got a call now to a house fire
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at Kelvin Road, Clydach.
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What have we got?
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It's a possible persons reported.
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I don't know how many
casualties are involved,
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but it sounds a serious situation.
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As we pulled into the street,
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neighbors confirmed
there was a family in there.
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We entered the ground floor.
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We had a substantial fire in the kitchen.
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-They went in to sort the fire out.
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That's when I went upstairs to do a search.
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We were hoping there'd
have been a rescue, but, er,
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things didn't work out
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as they were supposed to.
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About halfway up the stairs,
268
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the visibility was hardly anything.
269
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Just black.
270
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You could not see nothing.
271
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It's just all by feel.
272
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My knees were on the top last step
273
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before going onto the landing.
274
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My face was down low.
275
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I'd done a sweep with my hands.
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I found one of the children.
277
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Done another sweep again.
278
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Found the other child.
279
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I put my knees just onto the landing.
280
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I done another sweep.
281
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And that's where I found Mandy.
282
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-We tried our best to bring anyone back,
283
00:17:06,517 --> 00:17:09,027
but they were all gone before we got there.
284
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I believe it was the youngest child, Emily,
285
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that was handed to me.
286
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The back of her head was badly damaged.
287
00:17:23,758 --> 00:17:24,968
Erm, yeah, so...
288
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There was no doubt in my mind that erm,
289
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she'd not died in that fire
290
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and been the victim of something.
291
00:17:37,689 --> 00:17:40,789
-By this time now the
smoke is starting to clear.
292
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And then we found Doris in bed,
293
00:17:50,068 --> 00:17:51,968
laying there with
294
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a big cut down her face.
295
00:18:03,931 --> 00:18:05,831
Something very evil happened in there.
296
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The injuries they'd done to those two kids,
297
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Mandy, and Doris,
298
00:18:14,724 --> 00:18:17,378
I wouldn't call him a person myself.
299
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An animal.
300
00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:23,384
It's ridiculous.
301
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Absolutely ridiculous.
302
00:18:53,517 --> 00:18:56,102
A crowd had gathered outside the property.
303
00:18:56,103 --> 00:18:59,136
A lot of neighbors were out on the street.
304
00:18:59,137 --> 00:19:03,654
We're now turning in to Kelvin Road.
305
00:19:03,655 --> 00:19:05,305
There's very few police there.
306
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In back of Kelvin Road.
307
00:19:10,724 --> 00:19:12,904
And at the time did that strike you as odd?
308
00:19:12,905 --> 00:19:14,757
-Yeah, certainly, I mean,
309
00:19:14,758 --> 00:19:16,585
you know, I'd expect to see, you know,
310
00:19:16,586 --> 00:19:17,930
we have a car fire, we normally have
311
00:19:17,931 --> 00:19:19,451
three police cars turn up
312
00:19:19,452 --> 00:19:21,858
so I was surprised it wasn't more.
313
00:19:27,275 --> 00:19:29,515
There was one senior officer there.
314
00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:34,723
My commanding officer
went up to that police officer
315
00:19:34,724 --> 00:19:37,102
and made the statement that this was not
316
00:19:37,103 --> 00:19:38,933
a normal, standard house fire.
317
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And there was a likelihood of foul play.
318
00:20:08,068 --> 00:20:11,240
-The message that I got,
it was a fatal house fire
319
00:20:11,241 --> 00:20:12,964
involving four people
320
00:20:12,965 --> 00:20:15,755
and they thought it might
have been an electrical fault.
321
00:20:24,931 --> 00:20:26,380
When I got to the scene,
322
00:20:26,381 --> 00:20:28,859
three of the bodies had
been taken out of the house
323
00:20:30,965 --> 00:20:32,654
and it was quite clear when looking at them,
324
00:20:32,655 --> 00:20:35,375
they'd all suffered a dreadful death.
325
00:20:41,758 --> 00:20:44,861
This clearly wasn't a fatal house fire.
326
00:20:44,862 --> 00:20:47,832
It was a homicide where
four people been murdered
327
00:20:50,931 --> 00:20:54,211
and the killer had tried
to cover their tracks
328
00:20:55,862 --> 00:20:57,552
by setting fire to the house.
329
00:21:02,413 --> 00:21:03,693
-The house, which was once
330
00:21:03,694 --> 00:21:05,585
the center of a happy family life
331
00:21:05,586 --> 00:21:07,274
is now the scene of one of the biggest
332
00:21:07,275 --> 00:21:10,095
murder investigations ever launched in Wales.
333
00:21:11,241 --> 00:21:13,621
80 year old Doris Dawson had been living here
334
00:21:13,622 --> 00:21:15,240
for the past 18 months
335
00:21:15,241 --> 00:21:18,688
with her 34 year old divorced
daughter, Mandy Power,
336
00:21:18,689 --> 00:21:22,343
who is said to be a devoted
mother to her two daughters,
337
00:21:22,344 --> 00:21:25,074
Katie, who was 10 and 8 year old Emily.
338
00:21:28,137 --> 00:21:30,826
As detectives continue
their painstaking search
339
00:21:30,827 --> 00:21:32,309
of the crime scene,
340
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:34,481
prayers are being said for
the children, their mother,
341
00:21:34,482 --> 00:21:36,550
and grandmother within the community
342
00:21:36,551 --> 00:21:38,451
of which they were so much a part.
343
00:21:39,827 --> 00:21:41,097
-Beyond belief, isn't it?
344
00:21:42,413 --> 00:21:45,343
I attend church every Sunday and
345
00:21:45,344 --> 00:21:47,274
it certainly knocks your
faith, really, doesn't it,
346
00:21:47,275 --> 00:21:48,925
when something like this happens.
347
00:21:50,655 --> 00:21:51,895
-They were wonderful.
348
00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:53,930
Mandy, she was such a dedicated mum.
349
00:21:53,931 --> 00:21:54,901
And the girls...
350
00:21:54,902 --> 00:21:56,757
They were beautiful.
351
00:21:56,758 --> 00:21:58,792
And they were really starting to grow up.
352
00:21:58,793 --> 00:22:00,313
It's an awful thing to happen.
353
00:22:06,793 --> 00:22:09,205
The person had come to the house,
354
00:22:09,206 --> 00:22:10,996
wasn't prepared to kill the family.
355
00:22:14,068 --> 00:22:16,585
This is the front entrance door
356
00:22:16,586 --> 00:22:18,896
on number 9, Kelvin Road, Clydach.
357
00:22:23,448 --> 00:22:26,308
There was no sign of
forced entry to the house.
358
00:22:30,827 --> 00:22:33,547
We're now entering the
hallway of the premises.
359
00:22:38,206 --> 00:22:39,654
The killer didn't bring a murder weapon
360
00:22:39,655 --> 00:22:40,515
to the scene.
361
00:22:43,172 --> 00:22:45,654
We are now viewing the stairs of premises,
362
00:22:45,655 --> 00:22:48,585
which is to the right of the entrance door.
363
00:22:55,448 --> 00:22:57,238
-But lying on top of the landing
364
00:22:58,896 --> 00:23:00,336
was a fiberglass pole,
365
00:23:02,620 --> 00:23:05,964
which was about a meter and a half in length,
366
00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:08,205
2.2 kilos in weight.
367
00:23:10,275 --> 00:23:12,964
It had been left in the
house by the former occupier
368
00:23:12,965 --> 00:23:14,855
and the children used to play with it.
369
00:23:18,724 --> 00:23:23,724
The killer had used a sock
on their hands as a glove.
370
00:23:29,793 --> 00:23:33,793
Then the killer used this
fiberglass pole to attack Mandy.
371
00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,930
Now as a result of killing Mandy,
372
00:23:39,931 --> 00:23:41,341
all four had to be murdered.
373
00:23:44,724 --> 00:23:48,964
We are now viewing into the front bedroom,
374
00:23:48,965 --> 00:23:50,855
which is a children's bedroom.
375
00:23:53,965 --> 00:23:55,855
-They'd been hit multiple times.
376
00:23:57,344 --> 00:24:00,723
A defenseless eight year
old girl, a 10 year old girl,
377
00:24:00,724 --> 00:24:03,930
a 34 year old mother
and an 80 year old woman,
378
00:24:03,931 --> 00:24:05,378
who was dying.
379
00:24:05,379 --> 00:24:08,139
Doris only had months to
live, she was extremely ill.
380
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:11,237
So who could commit this
dreadful crime to these people?
381
00:24:13,241 --> 00:24:15,931
We're now moving into the mother's bedroom.
382
00:24:19,448 --> 00:24:21,548
-Emily would've screamed that house down.
383
00:24:24,586 --> 00:24:27,066
That's why I can't
understand how nobody heard.
384
00:24:30,793 --> 00:24:32,593
Mandy, all the kids.
385
00:24:37,827 --> 00:24:39,377
It had to be someone they knew.
386
00:24:49,448 --> 00:24:53,999
Okay, this is a taped
interview with Louise Pugh.
387
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,619
I'm Detective Constable 3199, Simon Evans.
388
00:24:57,620 --> 00:24:58,861
Louise is here.
389
00:24:58,862 --> 00:25:00,412
Louise, can you just identify for the tape?
390
00:25:00,413 --> 00:25:03,033
Louise Anne Pugh, date of birth 03/05/83.
391
00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:05,136
And her mother is also with us.
392
00:25:05,137 --> 00:25:06,826
I'm Christina Pugh.
393
00:25:06,827 --> 00:25:07,657
Thanks.
394
00:25:12,965 --> 00:25:16,136
-My mother rented the
house next door to Mandy's
395
00:25:16,137 --> 00:25:17,067
on Kelvin Road.
396
00:25:28,034 --> 00:25:30,999
I thought of them as family, not just,
397
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,210
"Well, they're my next
door neighbors," you know?
398
00:25:42,344 --> 00:25:44,136
I always used to run to her house
399
00:25:44,137 --> 00:25:45,688
whenever my mother shouted at me.
400
00:25:45,689 --> 00:25:48,274
This was after my dad left.
401
00:25:48,275 --> 00:25:49,095
Erm...
402
00:25:50,724 --> 00:25:53,067
I used to go upstairs, go in my drawers,
403
00:25:53,068 --> 00:25:55,826
get my knickers and vests,
put them under my arm,
404
00:25:55,827 --> 00:25:58,997
and I'd walk down the
road to Mandy's and Doris's.
405
00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:04,000
They just were a lovely
little family, you know?
406
00:26:13,241 --> 00:26:16,341
When the police showed up to speak to me,
407
00:26:17,482 --> 00:26:19,832
they wanted me to go into detail about Mandy.
408
00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:22,654
How would you describe Mandy
409
00:26:22,655 --> 00:26:24,861
to someone who's never known her before?
410
00:26:24,862 --> 00:26:26,688
Off her head.
411
00:26:26,689 --> 00:26:28,516
Very impulsive, as well, but, no,
412
00:26:28,517 --> 00:26:30,307
she's a lovely person, you know.
413
00:26:34,172 --> 00:26:35,792
She always had time for people.
414
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,690
She'd be the life and
soul of the party, like.
415
00:26:48,931 --> 00:26:50,999
She was, she was just...
416
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,690
She was up to this mood, she was.
417
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,760
She was very family orientated.
418
00:27:01,379 --> 00:27:02,549
And she loved her kids.
419
00:27:12,896 --> 00:27:15,476
When Mandy's marriage broke down,
420
00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:19,074
there was a time where she was low.
421
00:27:21,275 --> 00:27:23,995
After she sort of came
out of her down period then,
422
00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:26,453
she seemed to want
423
00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:29,720
more enjoyment out of life.
424
00:27:34,413 --> 00:27:36,413
She did attract a lot of attention.
425
00:27:42,586 --> 00:27:45,236
-I felt that the main victim was Mandy.
426
00:27:46,793 --> 00:27:49,033
That the answer lay somewhere with Mandy.
427
00:27:55,034 --> 00:27:59,004
After the murders, the
killer strips her naked,
428
00:28:00,931 --> 00:28:02,551
then puts a vibrator inside her.
429
00:28:04,586 --> 00:28:08,406
And, lying on the carpet was a gold chain,
430
00:28:11,689 --> 00:28:14,309
soaked in blood where she'd been murdered.
431
00:28:20,517 --> 00:28:22,723
There were no financial worries.
432
00:28:22,724 --> 00:28:24,930
She was not involved in drugs.
433
00:28:24,931 --> 00:28:27,412
She was not involved in any criminality.
434
00:28:27,413 --> 00:28:31,213
In in fact, she was a very happy, friendly,
435
00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:33,864
likable individual.
436
00:28:36,344 --> 00:28:38,314
Why would somebody want to kill Mandy?
437
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,309
-Mandy didn't use men.
438
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:44,620
She just wanted to feel that love back.
439
00:28:47,206 --> 00:28:48,096
But she was
440
00:28:50,448 --> 00:28:52,478
looking for love in the wrong places.
441
00:28:55,413 --> 00:28:58,171
I think Mandy played around
442
00:28:58,172 --> 00:28:59,902
with two different lives.
443
00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:04,166
And then one caught up with her.
444
00:29:17,413 --> 00:29:18,932
-The Swansea Valley community,
445
00:29:18,933 --> 00:29:21,171
where three generations of the same family
446
00:29:21,172 --> 00:29:23,205
were brutally murdered at the weekend
447
00:29:23,206 --> 00:29:25,378
is trying to come to
terms with the full horror
448
00:29:25,379 --> 00:29:26,861
of their deaths.
449
00:29:26,862 --> 00:29:28,830
Two children, their mother,
and disabled grandmother
450
00:29:28,831 --> 00:29:30,619
were attacked at their home in Clydach,
451
00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:33,757
before the killer started
fires to conceal the crime.
452
00:29:33,758 --> 00:29:36,240
Here's our chief reporter, Penny Roberts.
453
00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:39,001
-Jamie, well, the investigation
has been intensified,
454
00:29:39,002 --> 00:29:40,550
as you might expect.
455
00:29:40,551 --> 00:29:44,067
Very little to report on the
details of that investigation.
456
00:29:44,068 --> 00:29:46,723
I'll certainly know more
in half an hour's time.
457
00:29:46,724 --> 00:29:47,794
I'll be attending a news conference at
458
00:29:47,795 --> 00:29:49,274
Cockett police station,
459
00:29:49,275 --> 00:29:51,619
which has been called by
the man leading the hunt.
460
00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:54,619
What I can tell you is that
the forensic effort here...
461
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:56,136
I think on the Sunday,
462
00:29:56,137 --> 00:29:59,587
when we discovered that
there'd been a fire in Kelvin Road,
463
00:30:01,275 --> 00:30:05,067
I think I felt it was very tragic,
464
00:30:05,068 --> 00:30:08,447
but a routine job, if I
can describe it as that.
465
00:30:08,448 --> 00:30:09,723
By the Monday morning,
466
00:30:09,724 --> 00:30:12,378
I realized that I was dealing with something
467
00:30:12,379 --> 00:30:14,067
very, very different.
468
00:30:14,068 --> 00:30:17,723
And as time went on, er, you know, it was,
469
00:30:17,724 --> 00:30:20,688
it was clear that it was a story that
470
00:30:20,689 --> 00:30:23,069
I have never dealt with the like of before
471
00:30:24,655 --> 00:30:27,135
and hopefully would never
have to deal with again.
472
00:30:39,448 --> 00:30:42,308
That first press conference
was extraordinary.
473
00:30:50,551 --> 00:30:52,971
I remember Martyn Lloyd-Evans walking in and
474
00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:57,240
he looked as if he had
the weight of the world
475
00:30:57,241 --> 00:30:58,516
on his shoulders.
476
00:30:58,517 --> 00:30:59,792
I mean, he had to find the killer.
477
00:30:59,793 --> 00:31:02,693
And I think the pressure was on.
478
00:31:04,655 --> 00:31:09,655
-It's quite clear from the
injuries sustained by Mandy,
479
00:31:11,068 --> 00:31:15,068
that she's been subject
to a very physical assault.
480
00:31:19,931 --> 00:31:22,691
There's also signs that
she's been sexually assaulted.
481
00:31:25,034 --> 00:31:29,484
-And it became clear during
that press conference that
482
00:31:31,482 --> 00:31:33,932
Mandy's life wasn't
particularly straightforward.
483
00:31:35,344 --> 00:31:38,004
-We know Mandy, that was
a, was a devoted mother,
484
00:31:38,005 --> 00:31:41,619
had two children, committed to her family,
485
00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:46,030
was a lively, bubbly
individual, and so full of life.
486
00:31:47,275 --> 00:31:49,999
Since separating from her husband,
487
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,970
we know that she has had both
male and female relationships.
488
00:32:07,482 --> 00:32:09,274
-Later on that day,
489
00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:11,715
there was quite a crowd outside the house.
490
00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:18,034
And the gossip at this point
was about Mandy's private life.
491
00:32:22,206 --> 00:32:25,619
I remember one woman, who I later found out
492
00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:28,830
was in a gay relationship.
493
00:32:30,275 --> 00:32:33,688
Her partner was with her
and they were talking to me.
494
00:32:33,689 --> 00:32:36,447
-The last few months in her life, she said
495
00:32:36,448 --> 00:32:38,102
she's never been so happy.
496
00:32:38,103 --> 00:32:41,274
So I can't understand
what has happened to her.
497
00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:43,895
I know she'd had a
friend and as I said, it's...
498
00:32:43,896 --> 00:32:45,826
-They were local taxi drivers
499
00:32:47,344 --> 00:32:49,764
and they said, erm,
500
00:32:50,931 --> 00:32:52,901
"Ask the police about Alison Lewis."
501
00:32:57,517 --> 00:33:02,167
I found out that Mandy
had been having an affair.
502
00:33:04,068 --> 00:33:09,068
A sexual relationship with Alison Lewis.
503
00:33:13,379 --> 00:33:14,339
-Come on, girls.
504
00:33:22,137 --> 00:33:23,407
Let's have a run, let's have a go!
505
00:33:25,931 --> 00:33:28,171
She was very strong
506
00:33:28,172 --> 00:33:30,999
and she was good at
sports, very good at sports.
507
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,827
Well played!
508
00:33:31,828 --> 00:33:33,205
Go for it, Al!
509
00:33:33,206 --> 00:33:34,999
Well done, Alison!
510
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,100
Go for it!
511
00:33:38,655 --> 00:33:39,930
-Just take that last ball.
512
00:33:39,931 --> 00:33:41,521
Sheryl's probably the best passer here.
513
00:33:41,522 --> 00:33:43,267
Crash ball number one.
514
00:33:45,379 --> 00:33:47,550
She was a capped rugby player.
515
00:33:47,551 --> 00:33:49,071
She played for Wales.
516
00:33:54,931 --> 00:33:56,311
Good fall, fullback!
517
00:33:58,241 --> 00:34:01,481
-And then we found out that
518
00:34:01,482 --> 00:34:03,482
Alison used to be a police officer.
519
00:34:11,344 --> 00:34:14,694
I realized then that
520
00:34:16,137 --> 00:34:18,447
nothing was going to be very
straightforward in Clydach.
521
00:34:39,379 --> 00:34:42,029
Just taking you back to the morning after.
522
00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:48,619
Do you remember seeing Alison that morning?
523
00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:51,310
Did you notice her on Kelvin Road?
524
00:34:55,586 --> 00:34:58,476
-I remember making tea for the fire brigade.
525
00:35:01,482 --> 00:35:02,452
I took it out on a tray.
526
00:35:05,413 --> 00:35:08,999
Then I went over to see to another neighbor,
527
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,481
living two doors away.
528
00:35:11,482 --> 00:35:14,792
And we were always very,
very friendly with Mandy.
529
00:35:14,793 --> 00:35:18,102
And with this, Alison Lewis came from
530
00:35:18,103 --> 00:35:22,033
the left-hand side of the road,
which means the garden side.
531
00:35:23,793 --> 00:35:28,793
And she had wet hair,
rosy cheeks, and she had,
532
00:35:30,206 --> 00:35:34,033
if I'm right, she had green
shorts and a green top on.
533
00:35:34,034 --> 00:35:35,343
And so when you saw Alison...
534
00:35:35,344 --> 00:35:36,274
-Yes.
535
00:35:36,275 --> 00:35:37,235
She was freshly showered.
536
00:35:47,344 --> 00:35:49,074
Very briefly, someone somewhere must know
537
00:35:49,075 --> 00:35:50,550
something about this.
538
00:35:50,551 --> 00:35:52,519
-I'm quite sure that
someone knows about this.
539
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,343
There's no doubt that the attacker is,
540
00:35:54,344 --> 00:35:55,723
was heavily blood stained,
541
00:35:55,724 --> 00:35:57,447
has fled this scene sometime
542
00:35:57,448 --> 00:35:59,343
in the early hours of the morning.
543
00:35:59,344 --> 00:36:00,524
And I'm appealing for people, please,
544
00:36:00,525 --> 00:36:02,337
if you do know something, come forward.
545
00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:11,274
Right, you were at the house this morning
546
00:36:11,275 --> 00:36:14,585
and I know David was
talking to you about, erm,
547
00:36:14,586 --> 00:36:15,688
the pole, you know?
548
00:36:15,689 --> 00:36:16,517
Yeah.
549
00:36:16,518 --> 00:36:17,757
That, erm,
550
00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:18,930
has been mentioned as
being the murder weapon.
551
00:36:18,931 --> 00:36:19,757
Okay?
552
00:36:19,758 --> 00:36:20,585
Yeah.
553
00:36:20,586 --> 00:36:21,412
At the house.
554
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:22,241
Okay?
555
00:36:22,242 --> 00:36:23,342
You gave a statement.
556
00:36:25,275 --> 00:36:28,925
-The police asked me,
obviously, about the pole.
557
00:36:31,931 --> 00:36:34,101
I think it was just an off-cut of something.
558
00:36:35,655 --> 00:36:39,516
'Cause it wasn't, you know,
used for anything in the house.
559
00:36:39,517 --> 00:36:43,205
But Emily liked to, you know, twirl it
560
00:36:43,206 --> 00:36:46,136
and spin it on the floor and you know, just
561
00:36:47,793 --> 00:36:48,903
being a kid, really.
562
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,309
You tell me what you
remember about the pole and
563
00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:54,723
the day that you described when
564
00:36:54,724 --> 00:36:56,554
it was being swung around the house.
565
00:36:57,965 --> 00:36:59,826
It was all right outside.
566
00:36:59,827 --> 00:37:02,516
It wasn't raining, it
wasn't sunny, it was just...
567
00:37:02,517 --> 00:37:05,792
You know, blue skies sort of thing.
568
00:37:05,793 --> 00:37:06,964
And, erm...
569
00:37:06,965 --> 00:37:09,205
I think it was a couple of weeks before
570
00:37:09,206 --> 00:37:11,619
and she was spinning it on the floor
571
00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:14,720
and it knocked Katie's ankle.
572
00:37:15,862 --> 00:37:17,242
And then she obviously had to say sorry,
573
00:37:17,243 --> 00:37:19,585
but Mandy got flustered and she said, just,
574
00:37:19,586 --> 00:37:20,930
she said, "Louise, just do me a favor."
575
00:37:20,931 --> 00:37:22,591
"Get it out of the bloody house."
576
00:37:26,137 --> 00:37:29,412
I went out the back, walked up the steps,
577
00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:30,553
turned to the shed,
578
00:37:31,931 --> 00:37:34,551
and there was a gap
between the shed and the wall.
579
00:37:35,724 --> 00:37:38,904
So I slid the pole down the side of the shed.
580
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:44,999
Was there anyone who saw you
581
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,170
put the pole in that place?
582
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,310
I put it down the side of the shed.
583
00:37:58,827 --> 00:38:01,857
But I put it down there 'cause
they didn't like long grass.
584
00:38:05,793 --> 00:38:07,213
When I turned 'round,
585
00:38:12,931 --> 00:38:14,521
Alison was standing in the door.
586
00:38:19,344 --> 00:38:20,524
And was anybody else watching you
587
00:38:20,525 --> 00:38:22,550
at that point?
588
00:38:22,551 --> 00:38:23,381
-No.
589
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,790
That was the last time I saw her.
590
00:38:49,517 --> 00:38:50,723
In the town of Clydach today,
591
00:38:50,724 --> 00:38:52,831
there's considerable anger about revelations
592
00:38:52,832 --> 00:38:55,688
in the tabloid press about
Mandy Power's private life
593
00:38:55,689 --> 00:38:57,619
and relationships.
594
00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:00,171
-I just think that all this
is absolutely awful, really.
595
00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:01,895
I don't think there's any need of it at all.
596
00:39:01,896 --> 00:39:03,550
-Well, that's what the
tabloids do, don't they?
597
00:39:03,551 --> 00:39:04,691
They destroy people.
598
00:39:05,965 --> 00:39:07,136
If they can't do it when they're alive,
599
00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:08,068
they can do it when they're dead.
600
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:09,654
There's no one to protect them.
601
00:39:09,655 --> 00:39:12,516
34 Year old Mandy Power
was sexually assaulted
602
00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:13,757
then bludgeoned to death...
603
00:39:13,758 --> 00:39:15,033
-There was a bit of a feeding frenzy
604
00:39:15,034 --> 00:39:17,974
as far as the tabloid press was concerned.
605
00:39:19,068 --> 00:39:22,102
We're talking about more than 20 years ago.
606
00:39:22,103 --> 00:39:25,243
And I think more than 20 years ago, erm,
607
00:39:26,413 --> 00:39:28,930
there was a different atmosphere as far as
608
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:31,136
gay relationships went.
609
00:39:31,137 --> 00:39:34,343
It was still very noteworthy
610
00:39:34,344 --> 00:39:38,171
that a young, attractive divorcee
611
00:39:38,172 --> 00:39:41,895
who had two children was having an affair,
612
00:39:41,896 --> 00:39:46,102
a lesbian affair with a former policewoman.
613
00:39:46,103 --> 00:39:47,003
And, erm...
614
00:39:48,344 --> 00:39:50,826
A lot of people, including the journalists
615
00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:55,067
that were covering the case,
were focused on Alison Lewis.
616
00:40:01,413 --> 00:40:03,516
She was hounded out.
617
00:40:03,517 --> 00:40:05,723
Everybody was pointing the finger at her.
618
00:40:05,724 --> 00:40:07,524
She was labeled a murderer.
619
00:40:09,103 --> 00:40:13,343
And I think she wanted
to stand up for herself.
620
00:40:18,379 --> 00:40:19,861
How difficult is it to have people
621
00:40:19,862 --> 00:40:21,654
whispering behind your back all the time?
622
00:40:21,655 --> 00:40:23,447
-Terrible.
623
00:40:23,448 --> 00:40:24,278
Dreadful.
624
00:40:28,241 --> 00:40:30,661
It's almost unbearable at times.
625
00:40:32,379 --> 00:40:35,516
'Cause we're not talking
about any crimes here.
626
00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:39,654
We're talking about horrendous violent crimes
627
00:40:39,655 --> 00:40:41,615
against four defenseless people.
628
00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:44,587
And anybody looking at this case
629
00:40:44,588 --> 00:40:47,447
who didn't know the people who died,
630
00:40:47,448 --> 00:40:48,998
you know, would be shocked
631
00:40:50,724 --> 00:40:52,723
by what they went through.
632
00:40:52,724 --> 00:40:56,861
And how can anybody say
that they can live with the fact
633
00:40:56,862 --> 00:40:59,136
that somebody may look at you
634
00:40:59,137 --> 00:41:00,930
and think, "Well, did she do it?"
635
00:41:00,931 --> 00:41:01,862
"Did she?"
636
00:41:01,863 --> 00:41:03,103
"Was she capable of doing that?"
637
00:41:04,275 --> 00:41:07,205
It's, on times it's almost unbearable.
638
00:41:08,379 --> 00:41:09,999
But the one thing that keeps me going
639
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,930
is that I know I didn't do it.
640
00:41:11,931 --> 00:41:14,205
I know that I would've done anything
641
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:16,826
to have protected them that night.
642
00:41:16,827 --> 00:41:19,587
-I found her credible.
643
00:41:22,034 --> 00:41:23,999
She was crying.
644
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,516
Erm...
645
00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:27,307
I thought she was either
646
00:41:28,344 --> 00:41:31,033
an Oscar winning actress
647
00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:34,482
or she was telling the truth.
648
00:41:34,483 --> 00:41:35,903
-There is no evidence to say
649
00:41:35,904 --> 00:41:37,856
that I am responsible for this.
650
00:41:39,068 --> 00:41:41,028
I would never have hurt any of them.
651
00:41:43,103 --> 00:41:45,003
My only guilt is that I didn't know
652
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:49,480
they were fighting for
their lives in Kelvin Road
653
00:41:50,896 --> 00:41:53,378
and I was at home in bed in Pontardawe.
654
00:41:53,379 --> 00:41:55,585
And that's my guilt.
655
00:41:55,586 --> 00:41:57,066
And that's what I live with.
656
00:42:16,862 --> 00:42:18,999
Can you remember when you first learned
657
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,620
about Mandy's relationship with Alison?
658
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,139
-Well, Mandy started going to watch the rugby
659
00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:28,517
down at Vardre Rugby Club.
660
00:42:43,068 --> 00:42:45,338
She'd come back and
they'd been on a night out
661
00:42:47,413 --> 00:42:48,793
and she's going, "Right",
662
00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:51,760
"I'm a lesbian."
663
00:42:54,068 --> 00:42:55,034
Say what?
664
00:42:55,035 --> 00:42:56,136
She said, "I'm a lesbian."
665
00:42:56,137 --> 00:42:57,277
I went, "No, you're not."
666
00:43:00,586 --> 00:43:02,033
So Katie went upstairs,
667
00:43:02,034 --> 00:43:04,999
this was before Mandy'd
gone up there to tell Doris.
668
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,136
And then all you could hear
was Doris shouting down.
669
00:43:08,137 --> 00:43:09,412
"Do you wanna come up here"
670
00:43:09,413 --> 00:43:11,033
"and tell me what you've gotta say?"
671
00:43:11,034 --> 00:43:13,723
Katie'd been up and told her already.
672
00:43:13,724 --> 00:43:14,864
That was funny, though.
673
00:43:17,034 --> 00:43:19,454
Doris said to her then,
"As long as you're happy,"
674
00:43:19,455 --> 00:43:21,654
"that's all I want you is to be happy."
675
00:43:21,655 --> 00:43:23,102
Which was true.
676
00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:25,003
That's all she wanted
for any of 'em, you know?
677
00:43:27,931 --> 00:43:29,551
Things took a change, then.
678
00:43:40,931 --> 00:43:43,861
The sort of rugby crowd
would start coming to the house
679
00:43:43,862 --> 00:43:44,902
then and whatever.
680
00:43:47,931 --> 00:43:50,550
Alison would come down.
681
00:43:50,551 --> 00:43:53,071
She'd bring her children.
682
00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:15,689
Mandy was very much bubbly, outgoing.
683
00:44:19,310 --> 00:44:23,550
But even though Alison was, you know,
684
00:44:24,758 --> 00:44:28,378
a solid woman then, and she was well trained,
685
00:44:33,931 --> 00:44:36,071
she was much more reserved than Mandy.
686
00:44:43,758 --> 00:44:48,518
There was, like, obviously
trust and jealousy issues,
687
00:44:49,724 --> 00:44:51,624
because obviously Mandy was very flirty.
688
00:44:53,206 --> 00:44:54,026
And, er...
689
00:44:55,517 --> 00:44:57,102
You know, especially if they'd go out
690
00:44:57,103 --> 00:44:58,693
in the Clydach village.
691
00:45:00,758 --> 00:45:04,518
Quite often, Mandy and
Alison would come back and
692
00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:07,520
they'd argue.
693
00:45:11,241 --> 00:45:13,861
There was once, and there was an ornament
694
00:45:15,655 --> 00:45:18,826
and it got thrown and it, it hit the wall
695
00:45:18,827 --> 00:45:21,237
just by Mandy's head, so.
696
00:45:27,793 --> 00:45:30,213
I think she did care about Mandy, but
697
00:45:32,103 --> 00:45:33,483
she was just fragile.
698
00:45:34,655 --> 00:45:35,995
She had too much going on.
699
00:45:40,758 --> 00:45:44,098
I think it would've been
okay if Alison wasn't married.
700
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Who was she married to?
701
00:45:52,828 --> 00:45:54,448
Stephen Lewis.
702
00:45:55,551 --> 00:45:56,761
He was a police officer.
703
00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:02,720
Did Stephen know about Alison's relationship
704
00:46:04,517 --> 00:46:05,407
with Mandy?
705
00:46:05,408 --> 00:46:07,408
- - - o O o - - -
706
00:46:07,409 --> 00:46:09,409
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