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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:38,867 --> 00:00:43,066 After I went public, the fear was unlike anything 2 00:00:43,133 --> 00:00:45,834 I had ever experienced in my life. 3 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:50,567 At first, the response actually was filled 4 00:00:50,634 --> 00:00:53,066 with the majority of people being very kind. 5 00:00:55,767 --> 00:01:00,934 But soon after, the media and the fans got a hold of it online, 6 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:03,366 everything changed. 7 00:01:03,367 --> 00:01:06,133 There's people trying to make me the villain. 8 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:10,467 Here's Melissa Schuman. Me too. 9 00:01:10,533 --> 00:01:12,967 Me too. Me too. 10 00:01:13,033 --> 00:01:15,934 All day long, I am their biggest nightmare. 11 00:01:29,266 --> 00:01:30,409 A developing story. 12 00:01:30,433 --> 00:01:32,667 Nick Carter of the Backstreet Boys 13 00:01:32,734 --> 00:01:35,533 is facing allegations of sexual assault tonight. 14 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,265 His accuser is a former pop singer. 15 00:01:38,266 --> 00:01:40,866 She shared the allegations on her personal blog, 16 00:01:40,867 --> 00:01:43,065 saying that it happened while she and Carter 17 00:01:43,066 --> 00:01:45,066 were working on a TV movie together. 18 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:47,766 Carter tells TMZ 19 00:01:47,767 --> 00:01:50,033 the allegations are categorically false. 20 00:01:51,467 --> 00:01:53,547 Nick denied the allegations. He said he didn't do it. 21 00:01:54,567 --> 00:01:56,466 And then this is Nick's statement. 22 00:01:56,467 --> 00:02:00,767 It says, "I am shocked and saddened by Miss Schuman's accusations." 23 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:17,734 He acted like the fact that I went in and I sang the duet, 24 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:22,333 that is evidence that I was not raped. 25 00:02:23,467 --> 00:02:27,533 I was actually anticipating for him to say it never happened. 26 00:02:28,467 --> 00:02:30,766 But Nick proudly told the world 27 00:02:30,767 --> 00:02:34,967 that he had sex with me and said it was consensual. 28 00:02:35,033 --> 00:02:39,166 And if Nick thinks that that's consent, we have a problem. 29 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:43,066 That was just the start. 30 00:02:43,567 --> 00:02:44,667 I think it's all bogus. 31 00:02:44,734 --> 00:02:47,166 And, uh, I support my brother. 32 00:02:48,166 --> 00:02:49,265 The Backstreet Boys 33 00:02:49,266 --> 00:02:52,066 were doing exclusives with TMZ 34 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:54,667 and calling the allegations bogus. 35 00:02:54,734 --> 00:02:57,467 Unfortunately, there are fame seekers that are out there. 36 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,433 I am not a fame seeker. 37 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:06,266 My claims are not bogus. 38 00:03:06,333 --> 00:03:09,934 But you could just see it like, it's resonating with the public. 39 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:18,066 The Backstreet Boys have a really activated fan base. 40 00:03:18,133 --> 00:03:21,867 And the allegations against Nick did not dull their enthusiasm. 41 00:03:21,934 --> 00:03:26,366 Fans still showed up when they were on Good Morning America in 2018. 42 00:03:26,367 --> 00:03:30,066 The music that you fall in love with when you're 13 years old, 43 00:03:30,133 --> 00:03:31,566 you are always in love with. 44 00:03:31,567 --> 00:03:34,766 Now you can go see 'em in Las Vegas. 45 00:03:34,767 --> 00:03:36,567 You can get that VIP meet and greet. 46 00:03:36,634 --> 00:03:39,366 You know you can get that pinot grigio and scream your heart out. 47 00:03:39,367 --> 00:03:40,466 That's a beautiful thing. 48 00:03:40,467 --> 00:03:42,066 Backstreet is back. 49 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:48,467 And we aren't going anywhere! 50 00:03:51,867 --> 00:03:54,466 I don't believe the allegations against Nick Carter. 51 00:03:54,467 --> 00:03:55,999 I really don't. 52 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,866 I love you guys. Thank you very much. 53 00:03:57,867 --> 00:04:02,766 He doesn't have it in him to do that. 54 00:04:02,767 --> 00:04:05,634 Nick is not the person they're trying to make him out to be. 55 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,834 The whole Nick Army is behind him. 56 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,766 There were a lot of accounts 57 00:04:20,767 --> 00:04:23,166 that were tweeting out this message 58 00:04:23,233 --> 00:04:25,033 that I wasn't sexually assaulted. 59 00:04:28,567 --> 00:04:31,166 The stuff that they would say online would go beyond 60 00:04:31,233 --> 00:04:33,066 just I don't believe you. 61 00:04:33,133 --> 00:04:35,433 It would be like, "Please go kill yourself." 62 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,867 My dad was the one who started to really notice there's something going on. 63 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:46,066 I've been a technologist my entire career, 64 00:04:46,133 --> 00:04:49,667 so I wanted an understanding of how it was being spread. 65 00:04:51,367 --> 00:04:53,333 It was on this fan blog. 66 00:04:54,567 --> 00:04:56,566 A girl wrote a counter narrative 67 00:04:56,567 --> 00:04:59,834 to poke holes in Melissa's blog post. 68 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:05,667 She tried to point out evidence that I'm a liar. 69 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:10,567 And then Nick Carter's Dancing with the Stars partner 70 00:05:10,967 --> 00:05:14,066 promoted this blog. 71 00:05:14,133 --> 00:05:19,333 And as a result, this blog started to be reported everywhere in the news. 72 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,866 And Nick Carter, the last thing... 73 00:05:24,867 --> 00:05:28,265 Another one of the key individuals that escalated this 74 00:05:28,266 --> 00:05:31,566 was a youtuber by the name of Molly Golightly, 75 00:05:31,567 --> 00:05:34,366 Why are people being so mean to me? 76 00:05:34,367 --> 00:05:35,466 I'm the victim. 77 00:05:35,467 --> 00:05:39,066 I was raped by Nick Carter. Ah. 78 00:05:39,967 --> 00:05:42,366 Over the course of number of years 79 00:05:42,367 --> 00:05:44,033 and hundreds of videos, 80 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:47,166 she literally defended Nick Carter 81 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:49,233 and demeaned my daughter at every turn. 82 00:05:49,767 --> 00:05:51,366 Melissa wanted this. 83 00:05:51,367 --> 00:05:54,999 Melissa wanted the attention, and now she's got it. 84 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,766 In the beginning, she claimed, I'm not a Backstreet Boys fan. 85 00:05:57,767 --> 00:05:59,866 I never have been a Backstreet Boys fan. 86 00:05:59,867 --> 00:06:05,433 I am not working for Nick Carter or the Backstreet Boys. 87 00:06:06,367 --> 00:06:08,367 My opinions are my own. 88 00:06:08,967 --> 00:06:10,366 On her YouTube videos, 89 00:06:10,367 --> 00:06:14,966 she slowly leaked the fact that she had inside information. 90 00:06:14,967 --> 00:06:18,333 Over time, more and more evidence was showing up 91 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:21,367 freely given by Molly Golightly 92 00:06:21,433 --> 00:06:26,866 that she was deeply entrenched, in fact, with Backstreet Boys, 93 00:06:26,867 --> 00:06:29,166 Nick Carter, and/or his camp. 94 00:06:29,767 --> 00:06:31,266 Marissa... 95 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:34,566 or Molly Golightly has stated publicly in an interview 96 00:06:34,567 --> 00:06:38,734 that she had multiple sexual encounters with Nick Carter. 97 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,567 I have definitely spent a lot more time 98 00:06:44,634 --> 00:06:46,734 with Nick Carter than you have. 99 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:53,866 She had close to 90,000 subscribers. 100 00:06:53,867 --> 00:06:59,433 Retweet this stuff to every talk show host, every freaking newspaper. 101 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,533 This is not normal. 102 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,566 People just not believing a survivor. 103 00:07:05,567 --> 00:07:07,533 You're going to get that in any situation. 104 00:07:08,166 --> 00:07:10,366 It was strategic. 105 00:07:10,367 --> 00:07:12,367 It was purposeful. 106 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:14,533 It was targeted. 107 00:07:16,967 --> 00:07:19,934 Her videos were deliberate efforts 108 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:25,265 to expose Melissa and the BSB army, 109 00:07:25,266 --> 00:07:27,967 they literally consider themselves investigative. 110 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,333 The CIA for Backstreet. 111 00:07:33,467 --> 00:07:35,367 It's damn near impossible to fight. 112 00:07:43,467 --> 00:07:47,566 It really started to get scary when my phone number was released online 113 00:07:47,567 --> 00:07:50,165 and then my address was released. 114 00:07:50,166 --> 00:07:52,065 How about that house? 115 00:07:52,066 --> 00:07:54,766 It felt like I was being spied on. 116 00:07:54,767 --> 00:07:56,766 She said, on her YouTube channel, 117 00:07:56,767 --> 00:07:59,766 there was someone stalking and driving by my house. 118 00:07:59,767 --> 00:08:03,767 I'm not going to your house, but it just gets back to us. 119 00:08:03,834 --> 00:08:06,366 It's hard for me to say who's behind that. 120 00:08:06,367 --> 00:08:09,066 But some people published the photo of the house 121 00:08:09,133 --> 00:08:10,867 that Melissa was living in at the time. 122 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,967 They started having people surveil that house, drive-bys. 123 00:08:17,033 --> 00:08:20,366 That... as they monitored what Melissa was doing. 124 00:08:20,367 --> 00:08:23,466 I don't know if visitors are coming by still, 125 00:08:23,467 --> 00:08:28,333 watching you walk your little dog and leave with your little son. 126 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,766 It's an example of the power dynamic 127 00:08:31,767 --> 00:08:37,065 when the abuser has a fandom 128 00:08:37,066 --> 00:08:40,265 willing to defend them. 129 00:08:40,266 --> 00:08:43,999 These little fandoms, they go to all-out war. 130 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,867 The harassment was so intense that it was bad for me and my family. 131 00:08:51,166 --> 00:08:53,467 I mean, I called a suicide hotline. 132 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:58,367 And I felt so overwhelmed and I felt so alone. 133 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:09,834 I saw Melissa's statement and I wanted to talk to her. 134 00:09:13,266 --> 00:09:15,265 My name is Kaya Jones. 135 00:09:15,266 --> 00:09:18,233 Nick Carter was my boyfriend when I was with the Pussycat Dolls. 136 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:24,634 And I saw the very detailed allegations about Nick 137 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,467 and the response, it bothered me. 138 00:09:30,867 --> 00:09:32,467 It bothered me. 139 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:34,967 Because it was discrediting this girl. 140 00:09:36,166 --> 00:09:39,333 So I wanted to hear what Melissa had to say. 141 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:44,066 I reached out to her via Twitter, 142 00:09:44,133 --> 00:09:46,165 I said, "I'd like to speak with you. Here's my number 143 00:09:46,166 --> 00:09:47,333 if you could call me." 144 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:51,433 Kaya was so kind to me. 145 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,866 And I think we must have spoken for hours. 146 00:09:57,867 --> 00:10:01,433 I needed someone to tell me that my life wasn't over. 147 00:10:02,867 --> 00:10:05,567 I saw a young woman trying to speak 148 00:10:05,634 --> 00:10:08,265 and someone who thought he had more power 149 00:10:08,266 --> 00:10:10,433 and authority try to shut her up. 150 00:10:12,266 --> 00:10:13,533 I tweeted that. 151 00:10:15,367 --> 00:10:18,066 It was my way of saying, "Don't push it." 152 00:10:20,066 --> 00:10:21,567 Because he knows what I know. 153 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:24,566 He knows why I left him. 154 00:10:24,567 --> 00:10:29,133 And so, do I believe that something horrific happened to that girl? 155 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,834 Yes. Yes, I do. 156 00:10:45,567 --> 00:10:47,767 This is the Pussycat Dolls performing 157 00:10:47,834 --> 00:10:52,667 at Radio City Music Hall in New York City for VH1 Fashion Rocks. 158 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,667 I'm about to enter this stage from the back. 159 00:11:00,066 --> 00:11:01,467 It looks like I had it all. 160 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,666 I got to be a part of one of the biggest 161 00:11:04,667 --> 00:11:07,934 girl groups of all time, and I was dating Nick Carter. 162 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:21,333 I met Nick Carter at CenterStaging 163 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,333 in Burbank. 164 00:11:24,066 --> 00:11:26,466 The Pussycat Dolls were rehearsing 165 00:11:26,467 --> 00:11:29,466 beside the Backstreet Boys. 166 00:11:29,467 --> 00:11:32,866 I was around 20 and he was four years older than me. 167 00:11:32,867 --> 00:11:37,767 And Nick walked over and he asked me for my phone number. 168 00:11:38,867 --> 00:11:40,834 He was charming. He was funny. 169 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:43,266 A super big personality. 170 00:11:43,333 --> 00:11:45,966 And then within four days, we had moved in together, 171 00:11:45,967 --> 00:11:48,333 so it was a very fast relationship. 172 00:11:51,367 --> 00:11:54,433 I became very close with Nick's friends, Nick's family. 173 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,767 I thought I was gonna marry him. 174 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,966 But I was damaged. 175 00:12:02,967 --> 00:12:06,066 I was walking through a personal tragedy. 176 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,766 I have publicly shared what I went through 177 00:12:10,767 --> 00:12:12,467 when I was in the Pussycat Dolls. 178 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:16,265 Nick knew I was healing. 179 00:12:16,266 --> 00:12:18,667 And I remember he just like, "Well, I'll just hold you." 180 00:12:19,266 --> 00:12:20,566 So he was really sweet. 181 00:12:20,567 --> 00:12:23,233 So how could a girl not fall in love with that? 182 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,233 But this industry is very toxic. 183 00:12:30,066 --> 00:12:31,666 Nick! This way, guys. 184 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:33,509 The Backstreet Boys, they were really never told no. 185 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:35,099 They could do whatever they wanted. 186 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:38,133 Extreme entitlement, extreme privilege. 187 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:40,466 What's up, fellas? 188 00:12:40,467 --> 00:12:43,566 And I can do whatever I want, and people are gonna protect me. 189 00:12:43,567 --> 00:12:45,266 Fabulous! Straight ahead. 190 00:12:45,333 --> 00:12:47,734 But it's not normal, you know? 191 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,066 When I started dating Nick, Paris Hilton and him had just split up, 192 00:12:55,133 --> 00:12:58,934 so there was a lot of rumors in the press. 193 00:13:00,066 --> 00:13:01,999 Nick was never physically violent with me, 194 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,266 but he would punch walls if he got really angry. 195 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:09,500 Nick was very good at getting into your head and messing with your head. 196 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:13,634 He liked to control everything. 197 00:13:14,867 --> 00:13:17,466 So if anyone called my phone, he'd get really jealous. 198 00:13:17,467 --> 00:13:18,967 I mean, he broke my phone once, 199 00:13:19,033 --> 00:13:21,566 like a temper tantrum, like a child. 200 00:13:21,567 --> 00:13:23,834 He wanted to have his way, and that's it. 201 00:13:24,767 --> 00:13:27,066 I just couldn't believe how far he went. 202 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:36,166 One day I was coming home from Toronto, 203 00:13:37,166 --> 00:13:38,767 I had been recording up there. 204 00:13:40,967 --> 00:13:45,166 He had his laptop on the bed, he was watching pornography. 205 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,366 And he's showing me this porn. 206 00:13:47,367 --> 00:13:48,967 I said, "Turn that off." 207 00:13:49,033 --> 00:13:53,466 He just kept playing different versions of the same thing. 208 00:13:53,467 --> 00:13:56,667 And it was just like, "Oh, my God, I don't want to see that." 209 00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:02,133 And he said, "I need you to do this for me." 210 00:14:03,367 --> 00:14:04,734 And I loved him so much. 211 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:07,367 And I couldn't do it. 212 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,000 And I told him that, I said I couldn't... 213 00:14:11,567 --> 00:14:12,634 I couldn't do it. 214 00:14:12,867 --> 00:14:14,066 I'm sorry. 215 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,266 I've never repeated it in my life. 216 00:14:25,333 --> 00:14:29,433 What he asked of me was crossing the line too far for me. 217 00:14:30,867 --> 00:14:34,066 He became very nasty, very nasty, very quickly. 218 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:39,433 So that for me was like, I can't be with this person. 219 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,333 My heart was broken. 220 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,265 I remember when I left him, he said, 221 00:14:47,266 --> 00:14:50,133 "You want to hurt me, I'll effin' hurt you." 222 00:14:52,467 --> 00:14:54,266 Just like anyone in any relationship, 223 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:56,866 there's things that you know about your partner 224 00:14:56,867 --> 00:14:59,667 that could burn their house down. 225 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,734 I saw Melissa's blog. 226 00:15:17,567 --> 00:15:19,467 It sent shivers down my spine 227 00:15:19,533 --> 00:15:24,233 because It just gave me that déjà vu feeling. 228 00:15:25,266 --> 00:15:28,166 In my heart, I knew that I couldn't be the only one. 229 00:15:30,266 --> 00:15:32,033 And I was right. 230 00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:35,165 My name is Ashley. 231 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:40,266 I am here to discuss something very traumatic 232 00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:43,166 that happened to me when I was 15 years old. 233 00:16:01,767 --> 00:16:06,734 I was quiet in high school, and extremely shy. 234 00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:14,767 And so at that age, music was major for me. 235 00:16:18,567 --> 00:16:21,166 And it was all about the boy bands. 236 00:16:27,367 --> 00:16:30,866 My friend knew the Carter family, 237 00:16:30,867 --> 00:16:34,999 so I was able to go backstage with her. 238 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,466 And then I met Angel Carter, the youngest in the family, 239 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:42,433 and we became really, really good friends. 240 00:16:43,867 --> 00:16:46,066 It was a pretty normal friendship. 241 00:16:46,133 --> 00:16:47,567 We were the same age. 242 00:16:48,266 --> 00:16:51,366 She was fun. We had a lot in common. 243 00:16:51,367 --> 00:16:54,634 Aside from the fact that she had two brothers who were insanely famous. 244 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:00,065 Twenty-five years ago, Nick Carter's fame 245 00:17:00,066 --> 00:17:02,634 kind of extended to the rest of his family. 246 00:17:03,867 --> 00:17:08,766 And the most prominent of them was Aaron Carter. 247 00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:11,834 Hey, what's up? This is Aaron Carter, and you're watching VJTV. 248 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:17,433 Aaron Carter was kind of like a carbon copy of Nick Carter, 249 00:17:18,867 --> 00:17:20,767 but he was like eight years younger. 250 00:17:22,367 --> 00:17:27,634 I met Aaron at some of his shows with Angel. 251 00:17:28,867 --> 00:17:34,533 At that time, Nick and Aaron were absolutely massive. 252 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,866 Angel was Aaron's twin sister, 253 00:17:38,867 --> 00:17:41,866 and you could tell she felt like 254 00:17:41,867 --> 00:17:45,367 she was in the shadow of her brothers a lot. 255 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,766 There were five Carter kids. So, Nick was the eldest. 256 00:17:50,767 --> 00:17:53,266 Then there was BJ, then there's Leslie. 257 00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:56,433 And then finally, there was Angel and then Aaron. 258 00:17:58,667 --> 00:18:02,466 Girls in that family were working on their own things. 259 00:18:02,467 --> 00:18:05,967 But there were favorites, you know. It was the two boys. 260 00:18:06,033 --> 00:18:09,165 There was something unique about these two boys 261 00:18:09,166 --> 00:18:11,566 tethered in the same industry. 262 00:18:11,567 --> 00:18:15,966 And you could kind of pick, like if you were like a Nick Carter girl, 263 00:18:15,967 --> 00:18:21,333 you were a little older, you liked a clean-cut boy, 264 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,165 and then Aaron is for younger kids. 265 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:31,099 Aaron's party was about like having a rager in his house 266 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,634 while his parents were out of town. 267 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,233 I was an Aaron Carter girl, obviously. 268 00:18:37,867 --> 00:18:40,467 The reality is, we give all that power 269 00:18:40,533 --> 00:18:44,367 and all that attention to teenage boys 270 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:47,333 and made them the most famous people in the world. 271 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:59,066 In the late summer of 2003... 272 00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:09,265 Angel invited me to stay with her in the Florida Keys. 273 00:19:09,266 --> 00:19:13,433 She said she was lonely and we were best friends. 274 00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:16,066 I was excited. 275 00:19:16,133 --> 00:19:19,834 But Florida was a long ways away from my home. 276 00:19:24,066 --> 00:19:25,666 When Ashley talked to me about it, 277 00:19:25,667 --> 00:19:27,667 I was very apprehensive 278 00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:31,734 because at that point, Ashley was only 15 years old. 279 00:19:33,367 --> 00:19:34,834 You know, she was my everything. 280 00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:36,634 And she was a good girl. 281 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,866 She never really even had a boyfriend. 282 00:19:40,867 --> 00:19:46,867 And I said, "First I have to speak with Angel's father, Bob Carter." 283 00:19:51,767 --> 00:19:54,166 And he assured me 284 00:19:54,233 --> 00:19:58,634 that she would be chaperoned and that he would be there at all times. 285 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,433 That was really the worst lie 286 00:20:04,667 --> 00:20:07,166 that anyone has ever, ever told me. 287 00:20:17,567 --> 00:20:21,667 In the Keys, it's beautiful, it's stunning. 288 00:20:21,734 --> 00:20:24,967 But it didn't feel like real life down there. 289 00:20:25,867 --> 00:20:27,567 I don't know what I was expecting, 290 00:20:27,634 --> 00:20:31,065 but it's kind of like the Wild West. 291 00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:35,834 And the Carter family compound was massive. 292 00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:40,165 Hey, what's up, everybody? 293 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:42,265 I'm Aaron Carter, and, uh, this is my crib. 294 00:20:42,266 --> 00:20:43,567 Come check it out. 295 00:20:43,634 --> 00:20:46,866 When the compound in Marathon was on Cribs, 296 00:20:46,867 --> 00:20:51,366 you saw that every kid had their own house. 297 00:20:51,367 --> 00:20:53,834 There are separate houses on the property. 298 00:20:54,567 --> 00:20:56,566 You could see on Cribs 299 00:20:56,567 --> 00:21:00,867 the Carter kids would take these big boats out 300 00:21:00,934 --> 00:21:03,099 and have yacht parties. 301 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,265 This is my brother and I's boat. 302 00:21:05,266 --> 00:21:06,766 Now, we do a lot of fishing on this boat. 303 00:21:06,767 --> 00:21:08,687 You know, we've had it for about three years now. 304 00:21:10,767 --> 00:21:16,165 I wasn't used to having that type of independence, 305 00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:20,265 and I just remember thinking to myself like, "Holy crap. 306 00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:23,333 We can literally do whatever we want to do." 307 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,467 Even when Bob Carter did make appearances, 308 00:21:29,533 --> 00:21:31,867 he was drinking right along with everyone else. 309 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:40,433 The first time I saw Nick after he was famous, 310 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:45,934 I was 16. Uncle Bob picked us up in his very fancy car. 311 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:49,666 We were driving 140 miles an hour on the freeway 312 00:21:49,667 --> 00:21:51,766 with open containers in the car. 313 00:21:51,767 --> 00:21:54,166 I was... I wasn't prepared for that. 314 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,766 I expected a nice big house. 315 00:21:56,767 --> 00:21:58,566 Fancy cars, stuff like that. 316 00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:04,567 But not the, I guess the best word to describe it would be lawlessness. 317 00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:07,967 Uh, just free rein to do whatever you wanted. 318 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,367 The use of alcohol was very excessive. 319 00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:17,967 My dad and my aunt and uncle were all drinking pretty heavily 320 00:22:18,033 --> 00:22:19,866 the entire time we were there. 321 00:22:19,867 --> 00:22:22,766 But the kids kind of went off and did their own thing. 322 00:22:22,767 --> 00:22:26,367 There were no limits on what they had and what they had available to them. 323 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,960 First day down there, 324 00:22:39,166 --> 00:22:44,734 Nick came with a bottle of 151, and started pouring shots. 325 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,967 Nick was 23 at the time, 326 00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:52,634 but Angel and I were 15. 327 00:22:53,467 --> 00:22:57,467 And I had never been drunk before. 328 00:22:57,533 --> 00:23:01,567 It was like your typical peer pressure situation, 329 00:23:01,634 --> 00:23:04,333 but like multiply it because of who you're with. 330 00:23:10,066 --> 00:23:12,065 Angel had planned to go out 331 00:23:12,066 --> 00:23:14,967 and have a party on Nick's boat. 332 00:23:20,767 --> 00:23:23,333 After we got out into the open water, 333 00:23:25,667 --> 00:23:28,166 everyone was jumping off the side of the boat. 334 00:23:29,667 --> 00:23:31,533 Nick jumped in immediately 335 00:23:32,467 --> 00:23:33,533 after me. 336 00:23:34,767 --> 00:23:38,934 He had pulled me around the back of the boat 337 00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:41,967 and started kissing me 338 00:23:43,867 --> 00:23:45,066 and touching me. 339 00:23:46,567 --> 00:23:49,767 I had no clue what I was doing. 340 00:23:49,834 --> 00:23:51,867 I had never even kissed a guy. 341 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:00,800 I didn't know how to accept attention like that, much less, you know, 342 00:24:01,967 --> 00:24:03,233 by Nick Carter. 343 00:24:05,367 --> 00:24:10,834 Nick and I ultimately ended up inside the boat cabin. 344 00:24:13,567 --> 00:24:18,333 I felt so drunk and, like, out of my mind. 345 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:23,567 He was really sloppily drunk, too. 346 00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:30,265 I just remember feeling like this intense pressure 347 00:24:30,266 --> 00:24:33,766 due to the fact that he was someone that was well-known, 348 00:24:33,767 --> 00:24:39,066 an older guy, you know, who clearly had far more experience... 349 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,233 Then we... we ended up having sex. 350 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,533 I was just so uncomfortable 351 00:24:56,367 --> 00:25:01,066 and I just remember thinking that it hurt. 352 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,667 I was just like, "Wow, I feel really, really, really stupid." 353 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,466 When we had gotten back, 354 00:25:12,467 --> 00:25:15,166 Angel immediately gave me an attitude 355 00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:17,166 and said, "I want you to stay away from him." 356 00:25:20,767 --> 00:25:24,133 At that point, I, you know, I had a few more days in my trip. 357 00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:30,766 The night before I left to come home, he wanted to speak to me. 358 00:25:30,767 --> 00:25:34,265 I wasn't really sure like if he was gonna apologize. 359 00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:37,734 I ultimately, um, went. 360 00:25:41,467 --> 00:25:44,165 He had poured us a drink. 361 00:25:44,166 --> 00:25:46,934 There was like a never-ending supply of alcohol. 362 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:54,734 Then he asked me to perform oral sex on him. 363 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,265 Which I declined, multiple times. 364 00:26:02,266 --> 00:26:05,734 Just, he kept at me and kept at me and kept at me. 365 00:26:06,166 --> 00:26:08,934 I eventually gave in 366 00:26:10,166 --> 00:26:15,934 and we proceeded to have sex again. 367 00:26:19,867 --> 00:26:23,734 Both drunk, he never used protection. 368 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,666 And it was very abrupt. 369 00:26:28,667 --> 00:26:31,533 He basically like said, "Okay, bye." 370 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,667 Then I left first thing the next morning to come home. 371 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:50,467 When I came home, it still hadn't registered to me, 372 00:26:50,533 --> 00:26:54,767 how horrifically inappropriate, you know, 373 00:26:54,834 --> 00:26:56,734 everything that happened was. 374 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:01,333 Angel immediately wanted me to come back down there. 375 00:27:02,867 --> 00:27:07,166 She was lonely because of her parents separating 376 00:27:07,233 --> 00:27:10,834 and really just needed a friend. 377 00:27:12,767 --> 00:27:18,767 I hadn't disclosed anything that had happened to my family. 378 00:27:20,867 --> 00:27:22,667 When Ashley talked to me about it, 379 00:27:22,734 --> 00:27:26,265 she explained that she really wanted to be there for her. 380 00:27:26,266 --> 00:27:28,566 She was focused on that. 381 00:27:28,567 --> 00:27:30,165 It was against my better judgment, 382 00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:32,333 but I said okay. 383 00:27:33,567 --> 00:27:35,066 I would give anything, 384 00:27:36,166 --> 00:27:40,866 I'd give my own life just to be able to know back then 385 00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:42,233 what I know now. 386 00:27:44,567 --> 00:27:46,233 I would have never let her go. 387 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,367 She was changed then, forever. 388 00:28:05,867 --> 00:28:09,233 I went back down weeks after the first time. 389 00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:12,834 Nick wasn't there. 390 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:18,265 At that time, the parents were putting the kids 391 00:28:18,266 --> 00:28:22,966 in the middle in the divorce, and it just affected them. 392 00:28:22,967 --> 00:28:27,866 You know, as many people as there were around their compound, 393 00:28:27,867 --> 00:28:30,934 the Carter kids still seemed to feel very lonely. 394 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:39,767 I met the Carter family back in 2000. 395 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,099 When I met Nick, it was, you know, 396 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:45,433 right on the heels of the "I Want It That Way" success. 397 00:28:47,266 --> 00:28:49,467 We developed a really strong friendship, 398 00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:54,366 and I've been a part of the family for many, many years. 399 00:28:54,367 --> 00:28:59,099 What I saw mainly between Nick and his parents was business. 400 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:00,333 It was about money. 401 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,467 Bob and Jane, when they split, 402 00:29:05,533 --> 00:29:11,366 the impact that it had on the family was... it was just disastrous. 403 00:29:11,367 --> 00:29:14,999 As dysfunctional as it was, it was still your little nucleus. 404 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,766 Now everyone's, "Okay, Mom's over here. Dad's over there. 405 00:29:18,767 --> 00:29:20,767 You guys need to pick who you're going to go with." 406 00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:25,866 At that point, Aaron had moved down onto the compound 407 00:29:25,867 --> 00:29:26,934 with their dad. 408 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,966 Aaron and I were the same age. 409 00:29:31,967 --> 00:29:35,065 You know, he knew about the incidents with Nick, 410 00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:38,533 and he was always just really sweet. 411 00:29:40,467 --> 00:29:43,166 And we did end up having that sort of 412 00:29:43,233 --> 00:29:45,766 romantic relationship between us. 413 00:29:45,767 --> 00:29:49,767 But ultimately, we decided it was better if we were just good friends. 414 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:59,099 And then eventually there was a court date 415 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,367 between their parents, and Nick came home. 416 00:30:04,066 --> 00:30:09,966 It was such a surreal situation. 417 00:30:09,967 --> 00:30:14,265 I just tried to convince my 15-year-old brain 418 00:30:14,266 --> 00:30:15,767 everything was fine. 419 00:30:25,667 --> 00:30:29,066 Whenever older kids and Nick were around, 420 00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:30,867 there was just tons of alcohol. 421 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,567 We went out on the boats, 422 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,033 you know, everyone was partying. 423 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:40,533 As it got towards night, 424 00:30:41,667 --> 00:30:43,166 I had realized, 425 00:30:43,233 --> 00:30:48,734 aside from Nick and three other guys, like, everyone had left. 426 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,667 And Nick just picked me up 427 00:30:54,734 --> 00:30:57,867 and threw me in the boat cabin and shut the door. 428 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,966 I was... I was so drunk 429 00:31:03,967 --> 00:31:07,066 that I had, like, no control over my body. 430 00:31:08,767 --> 00:31:11,667 He just didn't... didn't seem to care. 431 00:31:18,166 --> 00:31:20,767 And we ended up having sex. 432 00:31:23,166 --> 00:31:29,033 I was adamantly vocally against... 433 00:31:33,166 --> 00:31:39,166 I distinctly remember laying on the floor of the boat cabin 434 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,066 and I was kind of starting to feel sick. 435 00:31:46,467 --> 00:31:50,866 Shortly after, I sort of saw people snickering. 436 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:56,867 And I found out at that moment that the skylight hatch 437 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,934 that was above the boat cabin 438 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:07,433 was open and that he allowed them to watch as he assaulted me. 439 00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:11,333 I was too drunk to notice. 440 00:32:15,967 --> 00:32:17,533 I was too drunk to notice. 441 00:32:24,867 --> 00:32:29,466 I just remember feeling like this big 442 00:32:29,467 --> 00:32:32,533 at that moment, and I was just so embarrassed. 443 00:32:33,367 --> 00:32:36,233 Like knowing something so intimate, 444 00:32:37,367 --> 00:32:40,066 something that made me feel extremely vulnerable, 445 00:32:40,133 --> 00:32:44,433 was basically like a side show for his friends that were on the boat. 446 00:32:46,867 --> 00:32:50,767 Angel... She confronted me 447 00:32:50,834 --> 00:32:55,567 and accused me of... of using her to get to her brother. 448 00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:58,265 That is how she was. 449 00:32:58,266 --> 00:33:00,533 And I'm just thinking, "Wow." Like... 450 00:33:01,567 --> 00:33:04,233 Holy. She did not care. 451 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,867 Aaron could tell that something was wrong with me, 452 00:33:11,367 --> 00:33:12,967 that I was upset. 453 00:33:14,066 --> 00:33:19,467 And we had gone somewhere to privately talk about it. 454 00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:23,566 Aaron was very kind to me. 455 00:33:23,567 --> 00:33:27,766 He did not have a great relationship with his brother at that time 456 00:33:27,767 --> 00:33:33,133 because of what he said were other similar events 457 00:33:34,266 --> 00:33:37,734 with his brother and younger girls. 458 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,265 At that point, I said I'm done. 459 00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:44,834 I called home and then left the next day. 460 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,566 When Ashley came back from Florida, 461 00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:54,567 she wasn't the same person that went down there. 462 00:33:54,634 --> 00:33:57,934 I remember seeing her when she got off the plane 463 00:33:59,367 --> 00:34:02,834 and her smile wasn't there. 464 00:34:07,467 --> 00:34:11,967 Just looking at her, I could tell, something happened. 465 00:34:14,066 --> 00:34:16,233 I've never seen her like that before in my life. 466 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,934 She said it was Nick. 467 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,233 The stars think that the world is their stage 468 00:34:32,066 --> 00:34:34,033 and they can do whatever they want to do 469 00:34:35,467 --> 00:34:38,433 to whoever they want to do it, and no one ever stops them. 470 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,634 What right does anyone have to do that? 471 00:34:43,567 --> 00:34:44,934 What's up, MTV? 472 00:34:45,467 --> 00:34:46,533 Whoo! 473 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,033 When I came home the final time, 474 00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:02,767 everything started to, you know, sink in. 475 00:35:04,467 --> 00:35:07,734 My mom was the first person that I told. 476 00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,867 She's 15 years old 477 00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:16,166 and I knew he was a lot older than her. 478 00:35:18,967 --> 00:35:23,166 I had to at least have it on record. 479 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,666 We went to the police, 480 00:35:30,667 --> 00:35:34,066 I would say three to four weeks after I got back. 481 00:35:39,667 --> 00:35:43,233 So in December 2003, Ashley filed a police report. 482 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:45,566 As a part of that investigation, 483 00:35:45,567 --> 00:35:47,834 she was interviewed by detectives in Florida. 484 00:35:49,166 --> 00:35:51,166 It felt very awkward. 485 00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:56,165 It's not an easy topic to talk about, period, 486 00:35:56,166 --> 00:36:00,767 much less when it has to do with that caliber of celebrity. 487 00:36:02,467 --> 00:36:05,934 I wanted to hit the bullet points 488 00:36:06,467 --> 00:36:08,233 and be done with it. 489 00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:13,767 The tricky part with her report is that she's admitting 490 00:36:13,834 --> 00:36:18,734 that she had told Nick that she was 18 when she was only 15. 491 00:36:19,667 --> 00:36:22,333 And so that will always be a knock against her. 492 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,966 I was 15 and I was embarrassed. 493 00:36:38,967 --> 00:36:42,266 I didn't understand the gravity and the magnitude. 494 00:36:44,266 --> 00:36:47,867 The Monroe County Sheriff's Office conducted a months-long investigation. 495 00:36:48,467 --> 00:36:49,967 Nick maintained his innocence. 496 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,967 And ultimately, Florida authorities 497 00:36:53,033 --> 00:36:55,233 decided against prosecuting the case. 498 00:37:01,767 --> 00:37:05,466 We wanted him to be held responsible, 499 00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:08,467 and it just didn't look like it was happening. 500 00:37:09,467 --> 00:37:13,433 She found the courage to file a report. 501 00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:19,734 But nothing was gonna happen because no one was gonna believe her. 502 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,533 I was just left with like this 503 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,567 gaping hole. 504 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:28,634 I never went to prom. 505 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,366 I didn't walk across the stage to graduation. 506 00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:36,233 You know, all of these were like domino effects. 507 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,467 She didn't wanna go to college anymore. 508 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,066 She started doing drugs. 509 00:37:47,266 --> 00:37:48,533 And the alcohol. 510 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,767 That just became her way of life, 511 00:37:50,834 --> 00:37:52,867 and I think it helped her cope with things. 512 00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,934 She just wanted it to all go away. 513 00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:59,834 She needed it to be over. 514 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,066 I was very scared for a lot of years to be the whistleblower. 515 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,065 I felt that I wasn't being believed, 516 00:38:12,066 --> 00:38:16,934 and I wanted to try to move on with my life. 517 00:38:24,767 --> 00:38:28,333 Men in the music industry have always had all the power. 518 00:38:30,166 --> 00:38:34,667 Nick Carter is in a place of privilege, 519 00:38:34,734 --> 00:38:39,133 fame and the ability of influencing people across the globe. 520 00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:42,834 And it's really scary. 521 00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:48,233 Because, I mean, it's a 24/7 machine 522 00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:51,866 of lies and all sorts of things. 523 00:38:51,867 --> 00:38:54,033 It's like a wildfire you can't put out. 524 00:38:55,767 --> 00:39:01,767 It got to a point where I started to believe that I should have stayed quiet. 525 00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:05,133 But then Aaron stepped up. 526 00:39:16,767 --> 00:39:18,367 He wanted to talk to me, 527 00:39:19,367 --> 00:39:22,433 and I didn't want to be anywhere near Nick's orbit. 528 00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:26,165 But I felt I needed to speak with Aaron. 529 00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:29,634 I needed to hear what he wanted to tell me. 530 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,166 Aaron said, "You just watch." 531 00:39:41,233 --> 00:39:43,567 And my brother raped you and I know it. 532 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,265 Being a part of a famous family, 533 00:39:52,266 --> 00:39:54,066 it's hard to get to the truth. 534 00:39:54,133 --> 00:39:56,967 Their life played out like a soap opera for everybody. 535 00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,567 Aaron made everything public. 536 00:39:59,634 --> 00:40:01,467 I'm not your little brother anymore. 537 00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:03,866 You're gonna start it, I'm gonna finish it. 538 00:40:03,867 --> 00:40:06,266 Nick went from being a loving brother 539 00:40:06,333 --> 00:40:08,667 to someone who has to protect themselves. 540 00:40:09,367 --> 00:40:10,367 I warned Aaron. 541 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,834 They're going to come after you. 542 00:40:13,967 --> 00:40:16,165 Aaron, does this hurt your feelings 543 00:40:16,166 --> 00:40:19,967 when you hear this? Like, do you shake when you hear this? 544 00:40:20,033 --> 00:40:23,265 It was beyond the point of just hate online. 545 00:40:23,266 --> 00:40:26,567 It was threats to his well being and his family. 546 00:40:26,634 --> 00:40:27,634 Da-da. 547 00:40:32,467 --> 00:40:34,867 Aaron said he was silenced. 548 00:40:34,934 --> 00:40:38,666 I'm being silenced because my brother is a rapist. 549 00:40:38,667 --> 00:40:42,467 Nobody wants to believe when you look perfect 550 00:40:42,533 --> 00:40:45,466 and you seem perfect, that you're broken. 551 00:40:45,467 --> 00:40:50,165 Singer Nick Carter facing more allegations of sexual assault. 552 00:40:50,166 --> 00:40:52,934 The allegations about him are in the press. 553 00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:54,734 Now it's public knowledge. 554 00:40:55,266 --> 00:40:57,367 And the world's listening. 555 00:40:57,433 --> 00:41:01,800 So if you genuinely are telling the truth, it's all going to come out. 46216

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