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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 last week 1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,920 this little ryzen pro apu landed here 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,520 without any warning and we put out this 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,760 build video last week and we asked if 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,920 you guys wanted to see how this little 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,080 thing performed because the response was 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,599 pretty overwhelming i figured that i'd 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,800 test it out in a few ways to see what 8 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,359 the story was 9 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,790 with the ryzen 5 pro 10 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:28,640 5650g 11 00:00:21,790 --> 00:00:30,800 [Music] 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,200 i wanted to test the 5650g out in the 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,800 same way that we usually test apus but i 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,399 wanted to add some testing around what 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,200 it would be like if you decided to pair 16 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:41,360 the 5650g with the discrete gpu as well 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,879 i also wanted to know how the 5650g 18 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,280 compares to the 5600g and the 5600x and 19 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:48,640 how it compares to the 5600g in relation 20 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,039 to integrated graphics performance 21 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,000 without a discrete gpu on top of that i 22 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:54,000 wanted to know if there was a 23 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,879 performance loss with the radeon 6600 24 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,879 that uses a pcie gen 4x8 interface 25 00:00:56,879 --> 00:01:02,399 whereas the 5650g uses only pcie 3.0 so 26 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:04,640 let's take a really strange trip where 27 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:06,799 we take a look at both windows and linux 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,520 performance for everything that i just 29 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:11,439 mentioned there's so much data to unpack 30 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,960 with this video and there's chapters in 31 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:14,240 all of our videos like this so if you 32 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,799 want to jump to a certain section of a 33 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,400 video use your little pointing device in 34 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:20,159 your hand and hover over that progress 35 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,560 bar or check out the timestamps in the 36 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:24,479 description also make sure you watch the 37 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,880 whole video to get the context of what 38 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:30,159 i'm trying to say here because again 39 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,720 there's so much data to unpack now this 40 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:34,560 is all of the out of the box stuff only 41 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,759 we're not covering overclocking thermals 42 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,680 or power consumption in this video 43 00:01:35,759 --> 00:01:41,200 mainly because the 5650g is a locked cpu 44 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,360 so you can't overclock it even if you 45 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,560 wanted to also keep in mind that we're 46 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,640 only showing the results from the 47 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,119 hardware we either have here right now 48 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,799 or have previously tested we can't show 49 00:01:49,119 --> 00:01:53,759 results for things that we physically 50 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:55,439 don't have or have never owned so yeah 51 00:01:53,759 --> 00:01:57,600 that's quite impossible 52 00:01:55,439 --> 00:02:01,040 we built a single test bench up with the 53 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:04,960 asrock x570s riptide it's the same board 54 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,119 that we tested both the 5600x and 5600g 55 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,039 on we tested this in both windows and 56 00:02:07,119 --> 00:02:11,840 linux because that's just something that 57 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:15,239 we do around here we also use the same 58 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:18,160 ram combo that we used for the 5600g and 59 00:02:15,239 --> 00:02:20,400 5600x as well and for cooling we went 60 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,239 with wraith prisms basically because 61 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,000 they're faster to install and remove 62 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:26,160 when we're switching out cpus and 63 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,879 there'll be no deviation in thermal 64 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,959 performance because of the cooler we 65 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:34,160 also assigned four gigs of ram to both 66 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:36,239 aps for testing so strap yourself in 67 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,560 this is gonna get weird so let's get 68 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:40,800 unpacked let's start off with cinebench 69 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,640 performance we tested with cinebench r23 70 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,800 only and we used some of the historical 71 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:46,800 data that we have with cinebench r23 72 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,840 that we've collected with testing all of 73 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,160 our cpus again when r23 came out from 74 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,400 our testing in cinebench r23 in both 75 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,440 multi-core and single core performance 76 00:02:54,400 --> 00:03:00,480 it's pretty clear that both the 5650g 77 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,080 and the 5600g are definitely not the 78 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,599 fastest chips on the market but i guess 79 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,480 you already knew that if you're watching 80 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:08,000 this video 81 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,879 however the 5650g is faster than the 82 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:14,239 5600g i'm not quite sure why though 83 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:17,599 considering that on paper the 5600g and 84 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:20,080 the 5650g are the same but i'm gonna put 85 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:21,840 this one down to silicon quality this 86 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,840 result though is not something that 87 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,840 we're gonna see consistently with the 88 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,680 5650g 89 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,080 how about a test that most people 90 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,799 overlook when they're testing new cpus a 91 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,280 timed linux kernel compiled test now 92 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:37,440 this test was run with an older linux 93 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,519 kernel as the majority of the cpus that 94 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,440 we've already tested have been tested 95 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:44,000 with compiling this version of the 96 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,560 kernel all right on to apu performance 97 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,319 in our gaming and 3d benchmarks we made 98 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,400 a few adjustments to our regular testing 99 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:53,040 to account for the lower power and for 100 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,879 the vrm assignment limitations we also 101 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,120 tested everything again as i already 102 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:59,599 mentioned with four gigs of vram just to 103 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,360 make everything even with both apus we 104 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:04,080 ran three different benchmarks that all 105 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,519 use the gpu and cpu in different ways to 106 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,200 see what the performance looks like in 107 00:04:05,519 --> 00:04:09,599 both windows and linux in different 108 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,120 situations first up is shadow of the 109 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:16,320 tomb raider and the 5600g beats the 110 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:20,320 5650g out with 50 frames per second 111 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,639 next up is 720p medium and once again 112 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:27,440 we're seeing the 5600g beat out the 113 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:30,960 5650g with 41 frames per second 114 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:33,919 at 1080p low we're seeing that the 5600g 115 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,800 in both windows and linux is getting 30 116 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:40,080 frames per second this is pretty typical 117 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,240 with this benchmark next up is unigine 118 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,360 superposition at 720p low we're seeing 119 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:48,400 the 5600g come out on top win windows 120 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,960 with 61 frames per second if we switch 121 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,080 over to 720p medium we're seeing that 122 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,720 the 5600g in windows at 35 frames per 123 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,919 second is beating out the 5650g 124 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:03,280 once again if we take a look at 1080p 125 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:05,440 low we're seeing that the 5600g again is 126 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,720 coming out on top at 41 frames per 127 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,759 second 128 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:13,360 next up is basemark gpu we're seeing the 129 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:16,320 5600g in linux is topping out with 130 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,840 performance here this is very unusual 131 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,560 for base mark 132 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:22,800 if we take a look at 720p medium once 133 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,320 again the 5600g 134 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,560 is coming out on top at 299 fps don't be 135 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,560 fooled by base marks high scores because 136 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,880 it doesn't necessarily mean it's good 137 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:36,560 last up is 720p with everything maxed 138 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:39,840 out and the 5600g comes out on top at 51 139 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,840 frames per second 140 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,919 okay so we know how the 5650g compares 141 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:48,560 to the 5600g in terms of that integrated 142 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:51,600 gpu performance but how does it compare 143 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,080 to the 5600x and the 5600g with a 144 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,360 discrete gpu in both windows and linux 145 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,280 let's find out 146 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,960 first up we've got shadow of the tomb 147 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:02,639 raider with the 3080 ti founders and the 148 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:04,400 5600x you can see that it comes out on 149 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:07,120 top in linux and this is typically what 150 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:11,120 we see with this benchmark and linux 151 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:13,919 again at 1440p in linux the 5600x takes 152 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,640 the crown and beats out both the 5600g 153 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:16,880 and the 5650g 154 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,960 [Music] 155 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,800 last up we're seeing at 4k the 5600x in 156 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,720 both windows and linux is getting 109 157 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,120 frames per second only beating out the 158 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,919 other two cpus by one frame 159 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,479 next up we've got superposition and this 160 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:34,880 is such an odd result and we tested this 161 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:38,319 multiple times and we kept seeing the 91 162 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:40,720 81 fps across everything next up is 163 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:44,080 1440p custom with depth of field motion 164 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:47,039 blur disabled and the 5600x in windows 165 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,560 comes out on top this is pretty typical 166 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:51,280 of these tests 167 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:55,919 next up 4k optimize and we're seeing the 168 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:58,639 5600g and 5600x at 4k with the 3080 ti 169 00:06:55,919 --> 00:07:01,120 are getting the exact same result last 170 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:04,240 up basemark gpu at 1080p high we're 171 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:07,759 seeing the 5600x in windows coming out 172 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,400 right on top this is how a d gpu 173 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:12,800 typically performs with base mark then 174 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:16,400 we're seeing the 5600g 175 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:19,199 beat out the 5600x by two frames this is 176 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:22,160 a bit of an anomaly passed up at 4k high 177 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:24,000 as expected the 5600x comes out on top 178 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,720 with 207 179 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,720 fps 180 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,280 there are a few surprises there but 181 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,319 there's one question i've been asking 182 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,520 myself 183 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:35,680 is there going to be a performance 184 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,360 difference with the fact that both the 185 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:42,080 5600g 186 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:45,360 and the 5650g both support only pcie 3.0 187 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:49,599 not only that but our gpus like the 6600 188 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:51,919 xt or the 6600 that have a pcie gen 4x8 189 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:55,599 interface going to lose performance when 190 00:07:51,919 --> 00:07:57,440 running at only pcie 3.0 by 8. let's 191 00:07:55,599 --> 00:08:00,560 take a look first up with shadow of the 192 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,639 tomb raider at 1080p high with the 6600 193 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:06,319 the 5600x 194 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:09,360 beats out the 5650g 195 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:12,879 next up with 1440p high we're seeing the 196 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,360 same thing here with that 5600 x beating 197 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:19,199 out the 5650g the difference in 198 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:21,360 performance with pcie gen 3 and gen 4 199 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:23,759 isn't actually as big as i thought it 200 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,599 would be although with other gpus that 201 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:29,120 we've seen we've also seen that the 202 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:30,720 performance gap hasn't been that extreme 203 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,120 we're seeing this again with unigine 204 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,719 superposition as well with we're 205 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,719 actually getting the same scores in 206 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:41,200 windows with pcie gen3 and pcie gen4 and 207 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:44,000 the difference here as well isn't as big 208 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:47,040 as i would expect to be at 1440p custom 209 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,519 given that this is highly cpu bound at 210 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,560 that resolution with those settings and 211 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:54,880 if we go complete gpu bound with 4k in 212 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:58,480 superposition you can see both are 213 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:01,279 hitting 41 frames per second next up 214 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:04,880 with base mark gpu this is to be 215 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,920 expected the faster cores of the 5600x 216 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,839 actually 217 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,480 make the result a bit higher also that's 218 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:14,320 to do with pcie gen 4. we're seeing this 219 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:16,880 result again with the 5600 x 220 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,519 this is kind of how vulcan works as well 221 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,480 with its throughput and lastly no 222 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:25,040 surprises here at 4k in base mark we're 223 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,320 seeing that you know with the 6600 the 224 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,080 5600 x is out on top 225 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,160 obviously all this testing isn't telling 226 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,240 the whole story it's impossible to talk 227 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,320 about every single thing related to any 228 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,320 cpu but the information here i think you 229 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,640 might find useful if you're on the look 230 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,959 for a cpu that has integrated graphics 231 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,120 while you either wait for a gpu at a 232 00:09:42,959 --> 00:09:46,720 decent price or you want something 233 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,320 that's relatively low power and i 234 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,760 covered this in the 5600g video as well 235 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,839 the real difference between these two 236 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,000 chips is less about the performance 237 00:09:53,839 --> 00:09:57,760 though because each chip has its 238 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,920 strengths and weaknesses 239 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,680 such as enhanced security features 240 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:04,000 real-time memory encryption fully 241 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,800 compliant on-chip tpm just to name a few 242 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,279 things 243 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,560 these may or may not be important to you 244 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:11,360 but i just thought i'd mention it 245 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:13,839 considering it does have those features 246 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,839 the only main issue i see with the 5650g 247 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:17,440 is the off-the-shelf availability 248 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:19,279 because i can't find anywhere that 249 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,680 actually stocks these and that's the 250 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:23,200 thing though these ryzen pro cpus are 251 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,040 fun to play around with and they're fun 252 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,680 to test but ultimately from what i can 253 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,160 tell they're made of unobtainium you 254 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:32,240 just can't find them anywhere they don't 255 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,920 exist the conclusions that i had with 256 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,040 the 5600g that i'll link in the 257 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,399 description you can watch that video 258 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,880 whenever you want just watch it after 259 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:40,480 this i can also say these things about 260 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,480 5650g 261 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,399 if you could actually buy one 262 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,839 if we actually knew the price which at 263 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:48,160 the time of filming this and testing 264 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:49,600 this you can't buy it and we don't know 265 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,279 the actual price 266 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,480 that's basically all got to say about it 267 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:54,880 if you like this video you know what to 268 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,000 do hit the like button hit the subscribe 269 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,760 button if you hated the video hit the 270 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,880 dislike button twice once again thank 271 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,279 you so very much for watching i'm your 272 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,600 boy nick with gear seekers you peak we 273 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:06,959 seek now this is a a pretty interesting 274 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,720 apu much like the 5600g i do like that 275 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:11,600 these apu's exist 276 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,839 the major problem i have with the 5650g 277 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:18,200 is you just can't buy it it doesn't 278 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:18,200 exist thanks for watching 279 00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:43,920 [Music] 280 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:43,920 you 20794

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