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last week
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this little ryzen pro apu landed here
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without any warning and we put out this
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build video last week and we asked if
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you guys wanted to see how this little
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thing performed because the response was
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pretty overwhelming i figured that i'd
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test it out in a few ways to see what
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the story was
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with the ryzen 5 pro
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5650g
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[Music]
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i wanted to test the 5650g out in the
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same way that we usually test apus but i
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wanted to add some testing around what
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it would be like if you decided to pair
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the 5650g with the discrete gpu as well
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i also wanted to know how the 5650g
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compares to the 5600g and the 5600x and
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how it compares to the 5600g in relation
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to integrated graphics performance
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without a discrete gpu on top of that i
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wanted to know if there was a
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performance loss with the radeon 6600
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that uses a pcie gen 4x8 interface
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whereas the 5650g uses only pcie 3.0 so
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let's take a really strange trip where
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we take a look at both windows and linux
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performance for everything that i just
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mentioned there's so much data to unpack
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with this video and there's chapters in
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all of our videos like this so if you
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want to jump to a certain section of a
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video use your little pointing device in
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your hand and hover over that progress
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bar or check out the timestamps in the
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description also make sure you watch the
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whole video to get the context of what
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i'm trying to say here because again
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there's so much data to unpack now this
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is all of the out of the box stuff only
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we're not covering overclocking thermals
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or power consumption in this video
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mainly because the 5650g is a locked cpu
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so you can't overclock it even if you
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wanted to also keep in mind that we're
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only showing the results from the
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hardware we either have here right now
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or have previously tested we can't show
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results for things that we physically
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don't have or have never owned so yeah
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that's quite impossible
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we built a single test bench up with the
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asrock x570s riptide it's the same board
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that we tested both the 5600x and 5600g
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on we tested this in both windows and
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linux because that's just something that
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we do around here we also use the same
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ram combo that we used for the 5600g and
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5600x as well and for cooling we went
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with wraith prisms basically because
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they're faster to install and remove
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when we're switching out cpus and
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there'll be no deviation in thermal
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performance because of the cooler we
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also assigned four gigs of ram to both
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aps for testing so strap yourself in
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this is gonna get weird so let's get
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unpacked let's start off with cinebench
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performance we tested with cinebench r23
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only and we used some of the historical
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data that we have with cinebench r23
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that we've collected with testing all of
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our cpus again when r23 came out from
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our testing in cinebench r23 in both
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multi-core and single core performance
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it's pretty clear that both the 5650g
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and the 5600g are definitely not the
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fastest chips on the market but i guess
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you already knew that if you're watching
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this video
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however the 5650g is faster than the
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5600g i'm not quite sure why though
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considering that on paper the 5600g and
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the 5650g are the same but i'm gonna put
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this one down to silicon quality this
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result though is not something that
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we're gonna see consistently with the
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5650g
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how about a test that most people
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overlook when they're testing new cpus a
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timed linux kernel compiled test now
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this test was run with an older linux
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kernel as the majority of the cpus that
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we've already tested have been tested
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with compiling this version of the
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kernel all right on to apu performance
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in our gaming and 3d benchmarks we made
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a few adjustments to our regular testing
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to account for the lower power and for
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the vrm assignment limitations we also
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tested everything again as i already
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mentioned with four gigs of vram just to
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make everything even with both apus we
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ran three different benchmarks that all
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use the gpu and cpu in different ways to
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see what the performance looks like in
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both windows and linux in different
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situations first up is shadow of the
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tomb raider and the 5600g beats the
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5650g out with 50 frames per second
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next up is 720p medium and once again
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we're seeing the 5600g beat out the
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5650g with 41 frames per second
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at 1080p low we're seeing that the 5600g
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in both windows and linux is getting 30
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frames per second this is pretty typical
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with this benchmark next up is unigine
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superposition at 720p low we're seeing
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the 5600g come out on top win windows
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with 61 frames per second if we switch
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over to 720p medium we're seeing that
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the 5600g in windows at 35 frames per
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second is beating out the 5650g
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once again if we take a look at 1080p
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low we're seeing that the 5600g again is
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coming out on top at 41 frames per
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second
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next up is basemark gpu we're seeing the
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5600g in linux is topping out with
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performance here this is very unusual
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for base mark
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if we take a look at 720p medium once
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again the 5600g
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is coming out on top at 299 fps don't be
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fooled by base marks high scores because
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it doesn't necessarily mean it's good
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last up is 720p with everything maxed
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out and the 5600g comes out on top at 51
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frames per second
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okay so we know how the 5650g compares
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to the 5600g in terms of that integrated
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gpu performance but how does it compare
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to the 5600x and the 5600g with a
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discrete gpu in both windows and linux
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let's find out
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first up we've got shadow of the tomb
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raider with the 3080 ti founders and the
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5600x you can see that it comes out on
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top in linux and this is typically what
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we see with this benchmark and linux
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again at 1440p in linux the 5600x takes
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the crown and beats out both the 5600g
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and the 5650g
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last up we're seeing at 4k the 5600x in
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both windows and linux is getting 109
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frames per second only beating out the
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other two cpus by one frame
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next up we've got superposition and this
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is such an odd result and we tested this
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multiple times and we kept seeing the 91
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81 fps across everything next up is
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1440p custom with depth of field motion
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blur disabled and the 5600x in windows
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comes out on top this is pretty typical
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of these tests
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next up 4k optimize and we're seeing the
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5600g and 5600x at 4k with the 3080 ti
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are getting the exact same result last
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up basemark gpu at 1080p high we're
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seeing the 5600x in windows coming out
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right on top this is how a d gpu
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typically performs with base mark then
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we're seeing the 5600g
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beat out the 5600x by two frames this is
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a bit of an anomaly passed up at 4k high
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as expected the 5600x comes out on top
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with 207
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there are a few surprises there but
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there's one question i've been asking
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myself
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is there going to be a performance
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difference with the fact that both the
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5600g
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and the 5650g both support only pcie 3.0
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not only that but our gpus like the 6600
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xt or the 6600 that have a pcie gen 4x8
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interface going to lose performance when
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running at only pcie 3.0 by 8. let's
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take a look first up with shadow of the
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tomb raider at 1080p high with the 6600
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the 5600x
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beats out the 5650g
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next up with 1440p high we're seeing the
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same thing here with that 5600 x beating
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out the 5650g the difference in
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performance with pcie gen 3 and gen 4
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isn't actually as big as i thought it
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would be although with other gpus that
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we've seen we've also seen that the
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performance gap hasn't been that extreme
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we're seeing this again with unigine
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superposition as well with we're
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actually getting the same scores in
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windows with pcie gen3 and pcie gen4 and
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the difference here as well isn't as big
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as i would expect to be at 1440p custom
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given that this is highly cpu bound at
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that resolution with those settings and
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if we go complete gpu bound with 4k in
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superposition you can see both are
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hitting 41 frames per second next up
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with base mark gpu this is to be
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expected the faster cores of the 5600x
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actually
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make the result a bit higher also that's
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to do with pcie gen 4. we're seeing this
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result again with the 5600 x
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this is kind of how vulcan works as well
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with its throughput and lastly no
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surprises here at 4k in base mark we're
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seeing that you know with the 6600 the
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5600 x is out on top
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obviously all this testing isn't telling
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the whole story it's impossible to talk
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about every single thing related to any
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cpu but the information here i think you
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might find useful if you're on the look
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for a cpu that has integrated graphics
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while you either wait for a gpu at a
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decent price or you want something
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that's relatively low power and i
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covered this in the 5600g video as well
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the real difference between these two
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chips is less about the performance
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though because each chip has its
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strengths and weaknesses
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such as enhanced security features
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real-time memory encryption fully
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compliant on-chip tpm just to name a few
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things
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these may or may not be important to you
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but i just thought i'd mention it
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considering it does have those features
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the only main issue i see with the 5650g
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is the off-the-shelf availability
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because i can't find anywhere that
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actually stocks these and that's the
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thing though these ryzen pro cpus are
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fun to play around with and they're fun
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to test but ultimately from what i can
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tell they're made of unobtainium you
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just can't find them anywhere they don't
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exist the conclusions that i had with
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the 5600g that i'll link in the
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description you can watch that video
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whenever you want just watch it after
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this i can also say these things about
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5650g
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if you could actually buy one
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if we actually knew the price which at
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the time of filming this and testing
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this you can't buy it and we don't know
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the actual price
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that's basically all got to say about it
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if you like this video you know what to
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do hit the like button hit the subscribe
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button if you hated the video hit the
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dislike button twice once again thank
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you so very much for watching i'm your
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boy nick with gear seekers you peak we
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seek now this is a a pretty interesting
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apu much like the 5600g i do like that
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these apu's exist
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the major problem i have with the 5650g
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is you just can't buy it it doesn't
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exist thanks for watching
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