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last week

this little ryzen pro apu landed here

without any warning and we put out this

build video last week and we asked if

you guys wanted to see how this little

thing performed because the response was

pretty overwhelming i figured that i'd

test it out in a few ways to see what

the story was

with the ryzen 5 pro

5650g

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i wanted to test the 5650g out in the

same way that we usually test apus but i

wanted to add some testing around what

it would be like if you decided to pair

the 5650g with the discrete gpu as well

i also wanted to know how the 5650g

compares to the 5600g and the 5600x and

how it compares to the 5600g in relation

to integrated graphics performance

without a discrete gpu on top of that i

wanted to know if there was a

performance loss with the radeon 6600

that uses a pcie gen 4x8 interface

whereas the 5650g uses only pcie 3.0 so

let's take a really strange trip where

we take a look at both windows and linux

performance for everything that i just

mentioned there's so much data to unpack

with this video and there's chapters in

all of our videos like this so if you

want to jump to a certain section of a

video use your little pointing device in

your hand and hover over that progress

bar or check out the timestamps in the

description also make sure you watch the

whole video to get the context of what

i'm trying to say here because again

there's so much data to unpack now this

is all of the out of the box stuff only

we're not covering overclocking thermals

or power consumption in this video

mainly because the 5650g is a locked cpu

so you can't overclock it even if you

wanted to also keep in mind that we're

only showing the results from the

hardware we either have here right now

or have previously tested we can't show

results for things that we physically

don't have or have never owned so yeah

that's quite impossible

we built a single test bench up with the

asrock x570s riptide it's the same board

that we tested both the 5600x and 5600g

on we tested this in both windows and

linux because that's just something that

we do around here we also use the same

ram combo that we used for the 5600g and

5600x as well and for cooling we went

with wraith prisms basically because

they're faster to install and remove

when we're switching out cpus and

there'll be no deviation in thermal

performance because of the cooler we

also assigned four gigs of ram to both

aps for testing so strap yourself in

this is gonna get weird so let's get

unpacked let's start off with cinebench

performance we tested with cinebench r23

only and we used some of the historical

data that we have with cinebench r23

that we've collected with testing all of

our cpus again when r23 came out from

our testing in cinebench r23 in both

multi-core and single core performance

it's pretty clear that both the 5650g

and the 5600g are definitely not the

fastest chips on the market but i guess

you already knew that if you're watching

this video

however the 5650g is faster than the

5600g i'm not quite sure why though

considering that on paper the 5600g and

the 5650g are the same but i'm gonna put

this one down to silicon quality this

result though is not something that

we're gonna see consistently with the

5650g

how about a test that most people

overlook when they're testing new cpus a

timed linux kernel compiled test now

this test was run with an older linux

kernel as the majority of the cpus that

we've already tested have been tested

with compiling this version of the

kernel all right on to apu performance

in our gaming and 3d benchmarks we made

a few adjustments to our regular testing

to account for the lower power and for

the vrm assignment limitations we also

tested everything again as i already

mentioned with four gigs of vram just to

make everything even with both apus we

ran three different benchmarks that all

use the gpu and cpu in different ways to

see what the performance looks like in

both windows and linux in different

situations first up is shadow of the

tomb raider and the 5600g beats the

5650g out with 50 frames per second

next up is 720p medium and once again

we're seeing the 5600g beat out the

5650g with 41 frames per second

at 1080p low we're seeing that the 5600g

in both windows and linux is getting 30

frames per second this is pretty typical

with this benchmark next up is unigine

superposition at 720p low we're seeing

the 5600g come out on top win windows

with 61 frames per second if we switch

over to 720p medium we're seeing that

the 5600g in windows at 35 frames per

second is beating out the 5650g

once again if we take a look at 1080p

low we're seeing that the 5600g again is

coming out on top at 41 frames per

second

next up is basemark gpu we're seeing the

5600g in linux is topping out with

performance here this is very unusual

for base mark

if we take a look at 720p medium once

again the 5600g

is coming out on top at 299 fps don't be

fooled by base marks high scores because

it doesn't necessarily mean it's good

last up is 720p with everything maxed

out and the 5600g comes out on top at 51

frames per second

okay so we know how the 5650g compares

to the 5600g in terms of that integrated

gpu performance but how does it compare

to the 5600x and the 5600g with a

discrete gpu in both windows and linux

let's find out

first up we've got shadow of the tomb

raider with the 3080 ti founders and the

5600x you can see that it comes out on

top in linux and this is typically what

we see with this benchmark and linux

again at 1440p in linux the 5600x takes

the crown and beats out both the 5600g

and the 5650g

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last up we're seeing at 4k the 5600x in

both windows and linux is getting 109

frames per second only beating out the

other two cpus by one frame

next up we've got superposition and this

is such an odd result and we tested this

multiple times and we kept seeing the 91

81 fps across everything next up is

1440p custom with depth of field motion

blur disabled and the 5600x in windows

comes out on top this is pretty typical

of these tests

next up 4k optimize and we're seeing the

5600g and 5600x at 4k with the 3080 ti

are getting the exact same result last

up basemark gpu at 1080p high we're

seeing the 5600x in windows coming out

right on top this is how a d gpu

typically performs with base mark then

we're seeing the 5600g

beat out the 5600x by two frames this is

a bit of an anomaly passed up at 4k high

as expected the 5600x comes out on top

with 207

fps

there are a few surprises there but

there's one question i've been asking

myself

is there going to be a performance

difference with the fact that both the

5600g

and the 5650g both support only pcie 3.0

not only that but our gpus like the 6600

xt or the 6600 that have a pcie gen 4x8

interface going to lose performance when

running at only pcie 3.0 by 8. let's

take a look first up with shadow of the

tomb raider at 1080p high with the 6600

the 5600x

beats out the 5650g

next up with 1440p high we're seeing the

same thing here with that 5600 x beating

out the 5650g the difference in

performance with pcie gen 3 and gen 4

isn't actually as big as i thought it

would be although with other gpus that

we've seen we've also seen that the

performance gap hasn't been that extreme

we're seeing this again with unigine

superposition as well with we're

actually getting the same scores in

windows with pcie gen3 and pcie gen4 and

the difference here as well isn't as big

as i would expect to be at 1440p custom

given that this is highly cpu bound at

that resolution with those settings and

if we go complete gpu bound with 4k in

superposition you can see both are

hitting 41 frames per second next up

with base mark gpu this is to be

expected the faster cores of the 5600x

actually

make the result a bit higher also that's

to do with pcie gen 4. we're seeing this

result again with the 5600 x

this is kind of how vulcan works as well

with its throughput and lastly no

surprises here at 4k in base mark we're

seeing that you know with the 6600 the

5600 x is out on top

obviously all this testing isn't telling

the whole story it's impossible to talk

about every single thing related to any

cpu but the information here i think you

might find useful if you're on the look

for a cpu that has integrated graphics

while you either wait for a gpu at a

decent price or you want something

that's relatively low power and i

covered this in the 5600g video as well

the real difference between these two

chips is less about the performance

though because each chip has its

strengths and weaknesses

such as enhanced security features

real-time memory encryption fully

compliant on-chip tpm just to name a few

things

these may or may not be important to you

but i just thought i'd mention it

considering it does have those features

the only main issue i see with the 5650g

is the off-the-shelf availability

because i can't find anywhere that

actually stocks these and that's the

thing though these ryzen pro cpus are

fun to play around with and they're fun

to test but ultimately from what i can

tell they're made of unobtainium you

just can't find them anywhere they don't

exist the conclusions that i had with

the 5600g that i'll link in the

description you can watch that video

whenever you want just watch it after

this i can also say these things about

5650g

if you could actually buy one

if we actually knew the price which at

the time of filming this and testing

this you can't buy it and we don't know

the actual price

that's basically all got to say about it

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you so very much for watching i'm your

boy nick with gear seekers you peak we

seek now this is a a pretty interesting

apu much like the 5600g i do like that

these apu's exist

the major problem i have with the 5650g

is you just can't buy it it doesn't

exist thanks for watching

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