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Bizarre experiences
were happening to me
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that I couldn't explain.
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And it's starting to make me
feel like I was crazy.
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Flash if you wantto connect with us.
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And right when
I say that, bang!
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Nobody's ever
gonna believe this.
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They were moving
just very slowly
across the sky.
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I'm seeing it.We're seeing it.
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Why me?
Why am I experiencing
these things?
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What-- what do I
have to offer?
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It was an energy and power
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that I felt and saw
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that was different
than I've ever seen before.
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At the end of the day,
I just want to know
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what I saw, on that day,
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on that island.
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I just want answers.
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I believe...
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you witnessed a UFO.
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[woman 1] I see it again.
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I see it. I see it.
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[woman 2] Oh my God.Holy [bleep].
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[man 1] You've gotta see this.You've gotta see this.
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[narrator] Around the world,
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people are witnessingand capturing
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unexplained phenomenaeveryday.
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There's a feeling you get,
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the hairs on your arms
and your neck
kind of stand up.
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[man 2] What the [bleep]
is that?
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There was a lot that
pointed me in the direction
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of something non human.
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[woman 3] Oh [bleep],
there it goes.
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[man 3 speaking]
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[narrator] And theyare looking for answers.
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It left me
with a lot of... questions.
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The recent releaseof thousands of pages
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of declassifiedUS government documents,
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whistleblower testimony...
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[man 4] These objectshad been observedfor over two weeks,
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coming down
from over 80,000 feet.
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[narrator] ...and shockingnew evidencecould hold the answer.
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Can you confirm
that's what it was?
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-Yes, that's what it was.
-Okay.
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Now, two expert investigatorswill use this new information
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and their expertise,to unlock the truth.
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I'm experiencing chills
over here.
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Mitch Horowitzis an author and historian,
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known for hisinvestigative research
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into the unexplained.
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You all have had some
very mysterious experiences,
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The video was
extremely compelling.
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And Chrissy Newtonis a journalist
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and authority on space,science, and the unknown.
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We were told that this
was a secret location.
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Absolutely.
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When I looked up,
I saw a UFO in the sky.
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Thousands of experiencerscame forward and submitted
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their personal storiesand evidence for examination.
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These beings were
so gloriously beautiful.
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Hoping to finallyseparate fact from fiction.
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Based on everything
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that you've brought
to the table...
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you witnessed a UFO.
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[Mitch] In evaluatinga UFO account,
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what I personally
take into consideration
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is the question,
"is this a source
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that I can trust?"
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[Chrissy] First thingI look for is date,time and location.
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Second one is testimony
from the person
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who had the first accountin social media coverage
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or any type
of local media coverage
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on the same day
of the sighting.
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I'm looking forward
to speaking with John.
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We're moving up uh,
the Atlantic to Maine.
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Yeah, he's a lobster man.
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Maine is a mysterious state.
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Yeah. Oh yeah,
it's a super mysterious state.
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-[Mitch] Hey, come in.
-[John] How's it going?
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-I'm Mitch. How you doing?
-I'm John.
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-Chrissy.
Nice to meet you, John.
-John, nice to meet you.
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[Mitch] Thanks for being here.
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Yeah. Thanks for having me.
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Absolutely.
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Well, let me tell you
what we're going
to do here today.
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We have some of the details
of your UFO experience.
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And we want to really hear
the story directly
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from you to make sure
we haven't missed any details
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or anything
that's personally important.
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My name is John Leavitt.
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Most of the things in my life,
I can explain
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This is one of the things
that I can't.
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I live in Portland, Maine.
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Maine's a pretty quiet place,
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and we like
to keep it that way.
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I'm a normal dude.
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You know, I like hiking.
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I like working out.
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I like hanging outwith my friends.
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I love my wifemore than anythingin the world.
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UFOs are not something
that I'm into.
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It was likeOctober 30th, 2013.
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It was uh, a really
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unusual October day.
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It was a warm day.It was like 80°.
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And uh, my friends and I
decided to go camping
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off the coast
of Cape Elizabeth, Maine,
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to an island
called Richmond Island.
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It was a great day.We had a lot of fun.
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We got food and sandwiches
and we went swimming.
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We were all havingjust a great time,
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and day kind of
turned into night.
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So a bunch of us
all just went for a walk
around the island.
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On that particular island,
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during the summer,
there is a caretaker house.
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We just walked upto it to check it out
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because no one was there.
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We were just
kind of hanging out,
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kicking it by the porch
and talking,
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and one of us noticeda light in the sky.
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We all just kept talking
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and just kind of
brushed it off.
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But then it kept
coming closer to us.
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And it kept getting bigger.
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And pardon my language,
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but we were all like,
"What the [bleep] is this?"
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It just kind of
hovered above us.
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It was probably
15, 20 feet away from us,
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and it was like a giant light.
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And you couldn't seethe shape of itat this point or anything.
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It was just a giant light.
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So we startedto walk off and...
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just like that,the light just went away.
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It just kind of like,
slowly went off.
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So we're a little shooken up,
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but you know,
us gentlemen kept talking
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and our bravado
got the best of us.
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And we're like, well, yeah,
if that craft landed,
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we would have, you know,
shown them our--
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We thought it was over,you know,
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and we just thought thiswas going to be a great story
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to tell our grandkids
or whatever.
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But it wasn't over.
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And this is the truly
terrifying part.
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It came back.
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And it kind of
didn't gradually come back.
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It just came back.
And the light was on us.
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We're all jumping
on the ground, terrified.
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And I look up
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and all I see
is just this huge light.
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I could feelsome type of just, energy.
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I'm the type of guy
that doesn't really back down.
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But this presence,
it was an energy and power
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that I felt and saw
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that was different
than I've ever seen before.
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When I looked up at it,
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it kind of almost
metamorphosized
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into like a, a--
almost like a fighter jet
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Like a, like a--
an arrow sphere,
you know?
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And then that's when
it just took off.
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The fastest thing
I've ever seen in my life.
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I mean, it was gone
in a second, out of sight.
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It was definitely terrifying.
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I think if I had been alone,
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I don't-- I don't know
if I would have ever
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brought the story up,
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but the fact that, like,
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my good friends,
who I know to be
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very credible,
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very honest
and capable human beings,
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you know,
saw the same thing too.
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I think it would
be really great
to understand what I saw.
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[Mitch] What can wedo for you?
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What are you hoping
to get out of...
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this discussion today?
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There's a lot
of different ways
my mind thinks and,
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and I wish I could
just know what it was,
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so I could at least put
a little closure on that.
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-Chrissy has worked
with analysts...
-Mm-hmm.
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...who have taken a look
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at the information
that you submitted.
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John Leavitt providedthe date, time and location.
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And a detailed descriptionof his encounterto the research team.
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But he did not haveany photographicor video evidence to submit.
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Was there a reason why
you weren't able
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to take a photo or a video
by chance?
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It was fear.
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And, "what is this?
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Let's get to safety," not,
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"let's take a picture of it."
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That's the level of fear
I think I was at.
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Fear of the unknown, I guess.
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-Hmm.
-Yeah.
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So we looked at
your date, time and location,
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and we cross checked it
with multiple UFO databases.
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There was nothing
that we've seen in that area
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that could relate to be a UFO.
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We also looked at flight data,
satellite, rocket launch data
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to see if there's any
correlations as well.
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At that time,
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we didn't see
any other airplanes
or aircraft.
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That means that
there was nothing
that we've seen in that area
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that could be a plane
or a drone or anything else
during that time.
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There was nothing concrete
that explains what you saw.
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But I don't have video.
I don't have photo.
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Unfortunately,
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I just don't have enough data
to say that it's a UFO.
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I have my own outlook.
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I strongly disagree
with Chrissy's assessment.
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[Chrissy] I wish
I had more data.
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Sometimes you have
to throw out the rule book.
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[woman 3] Me and my kidswere driving, and...
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from the back of the car
I can see
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this string of lights
in the sky.
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What in the [bleep]
is in the sky?
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[woman 4] It's moving.
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[woman 3] Yeah, it's going.
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I don't have video.
I don't have photo.
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Unfortunately, I just
don't have enough data
to say that it's a UFO.
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I have my own outlook.
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First of all,
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as witnesses,
as far as I'm concerned,
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you know the outdoors.
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You know the terrain.
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You had friends with you,
two of them,
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who are trained
marine biologists.
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Furthermore,
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there is a long history
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of these sightings
in the New England area
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that predate
the modern UFO era.
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There was a book
written in 1853
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by a New England-based author
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named Andrew Jackson Davis.
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It was called
The Present Ageand the Inner Life.
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And in that bookare three vivid illustrations
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of brilliant, mysterious,
lights in the sky.
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Not entirely unrelated
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to what you
and your colleagues witnessed.
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And things
that were also witnessed
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by large groups
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of perfectly
responsible people.
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Then we've got the 1976 report
by local Ken Putnam,
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who witnessed a 50 foot UFO
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fly into an alleged portalon Pine Hill Mountain.
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The US Navy sent a P3 Orion,
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a surveillance aircraft
to the same mountain.
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and it ended up crashing.
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At the time, it was one of the
Navy's most technologically
advanced aircraft.
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We've also got a 1979
law enforcement incident
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where three police officers
from two neighboring towns
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reported seeing
the exact same lights
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making their way
over the Maine coastline.
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And we've got 3000 pages
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of recently declassified
CIA documents.
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This has been going on
for generations
and generations.
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Oh wow.
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Given your gravity
as a witness,
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the vividness
of your testimony,
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the testimony of people
who were with you...
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The area has a very, very,
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rich history and culture
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as much as the town
of Roswell itself does.
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I feel confident,
personally speaking, saying,
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you saw a UFO.
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[exhales]
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I strongly disagree
with Chrissy's assessment
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that there is no evidence.
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This is one of those cases
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where sometimes
you have to throw out
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the rule book
and go with history.
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And the credible account
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of not one
but multiple witnesses.
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So for this case,
I have to say yes.
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It was a UFO
that John witnessed.
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You've added to the annals
of the research
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of this very, very
important topic.
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It's definitely
one of the most
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interesting things
that's happened in my life.
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[Chrissy] For sure.
[John] You guys are awesome.
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The research
that you put into it,
it's really great.
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-[Chrissy] That's awesome.
-[Mitch] You're terrific,
my man.
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-[John] You are too.
[chuckles]
-[Mitch] This was great.
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-[Mitch] Thank you.
-[John] Nice to
meet you, too.
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-[John] Take care.
-[Mitch] All right.
Thank you, man.
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Yep.
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For me and the people
that were there that night,
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It's very real,
and it happened.
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His story is unbelievable.
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It really is unbelievable,
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-but I just don't
have enough to go on.
-Sure.
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[John] 3000declassified documents
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from the CIA,
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to me supports
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a lot of evidence
that there was something.
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That is a, uh,
as far as I'm concerned
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an impressive witness.
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I wish I could say
more to him.
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-Of course.
-You know, I wish
I had more data.
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I think we really made
the right choice
coming to Roswell.
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Small town.
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Big stories.
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[Mitch] So I havea question for you.
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When you encounter a witness
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who has had
multiple experiences,
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does that heighten or detract
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from the
witness's credibility?
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I don't know if it detracts
from the credibility,
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because we do see
there's sections
within the brain
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that, for some reason,
when people have encounters,
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those areas are over-enlarged.
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And finding out later on
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that this
is potentially hereditary.
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-[Mitch] Welcome, y'all.
How's it going?
-[Chrissy] Hi.
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-Chrissy, nice to meet you.
-Mitch, how you doing?
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[Chrissy] Nice to meet you.
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You all, both individually
and as a family
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have had some very
mysterious experiences.
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Experiences can be common
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or can even be hereditary
among families.
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What we wanted to ask,
first and foremost,
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in your own words,
you briefly tell us
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what your experience has been.
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Okay, so...
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[Ava] Since I was a child
I've had weird experiences,
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and I don't really talk about
them because, you know,
I don't want to be ridiculed.
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And you know,
looked at like I'm crazy.
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So I always kept
everything to myself.
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When I was 12 years old,I looked out the window
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and I had seenthis really big,saucer-like shape.
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And it had, like,
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all these differentcolor lights on it.
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The lights were likegreen and blueand yellow and red.
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And, I started hearing
like, these voices.
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But I didn't know wherethe voices were coming from.
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And then, I've seenthese three beings.
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They were puttingtheir fingers on the window.
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And I put my three fingerson the window as well.
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And now I ran to my mother
and I was like,
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"Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,
get the camera,
get the camera."
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And by the time we got backto the window, it was gone.
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It was completely gone.
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We were scared.
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We were nervous.
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What if they come for us?
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It was never spoken about
ever again.
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Like I don't know why we never
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talked about it,
but we just never did.
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[Mitch] Let's talk about
your most recent experience.
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We'd like to hear
directly from you all
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what it was you encountered
in the car one night.
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On September 21st 2023,
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uh, me and my kidswere driving down Route 739.
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And from the back of the car,
I can see
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this string of lightsin the sky.
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They're pointing,
they're looking
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and I'm trying to bend
in all kinds of directions.
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I'm like,
what are they seeing?
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There was no edges at all,
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just lights,
just a string of lights.
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[Ava] It had to be at least...
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[Marjorie] Yeah,but eight to ten lights.
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We are all trying
to capture this thing
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on the phone.
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[Marjorie] I'm seeing it.We're seeing it.
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And I was like,
"hope somebody's
getting this."
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Like, I really need
this photo.
366
00:18:05,767 --> 00:18:10,000
I really need this video
because nobody's ever
gonna believe this.
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[Shane] We didn't knowwhat it was.
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It didn't look likeanything we've ever seen.
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And I was like,
"What the hell is that?"
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We have pulled over,
and I'm sticking my head
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right out the window
with my phone out.
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I'm being told,
"record, record." I'm like,
"I've got it. I'm on it."
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They were moving just
very slowly across the sky.
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[Marjorie] What in
the [bleep]
is in the sky today?
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I'm seeing it.We're seeing it.
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There were a lot of lights.No blinking,
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um, in a perfect static line,
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all moving together in unison
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very slowly
in its diagonal path.
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[Marjorie] That's not stars.
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Cars passing.
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Like, there's other starsand there's [bleep] and that.
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-[Shane] It's moving.
-[Marjorie] Yeah, it's going.
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[Shane] It's going above us.
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And it started to just...
fade out.
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Just fade away.
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[Marjorie] He's disappearing.He went above usand he's [bleep] gone.
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- [Marjorie] I got good footageof that [bleep] thing though.- [Ava] You got it?
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[Marjorie] I gotgood ass footage.
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When we did
the video analysis,
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I have to say to you...
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As I'm videotaping the craft,
I audibly ask the craft.
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Flash if you wantto connect with us.
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[Ava] On September 21st 2023,me and my kids were driving
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and from the back of the car
I can see
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this string of lightsin the sky.
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I'm seeing it.We're seeing it.
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There were a lot of lights,no blinking,
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um, in a perfect static line,
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all moving together in unison
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very slowly
in its diagonal path.
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-It's moving.-Yeah, it's going.
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It's going above us.
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It started to just...
fade out.
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Just fade away.
406
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[Marjorie] He's disappearing.It ain't above us--
407
00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:06,567
Why me?
Why am I experiencing
these things?
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00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:08,934
What-- what do I
have to offer?
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00:20:12,367 --> 00:20:16,100
So you all have stepped up
in a very public way,
with your story.
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What is it
that you hope we can provide?
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What are you looking for?
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00:20:20,767 --> 00:20:23,166
We've seen these things,
like, about so many times,
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all different types
of saucers,
all different types of things.
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And we just honestly
want confirmation about
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whether or not these are UFOs
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-or some other,
some other type of thing.
-Other beings, yeah, right.
417
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Let me give you a sense
of what we try
to accomplish here.
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We have the video evidence
that you have shared.
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Chrissy has analyzed
this material with a team
of researchers,
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and the results will help me
come to a decision.
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So one of the first things
we do is, we look
at video and photo.
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So we have cell phone video.
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Yeah.
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-[Marjorie] It's moving.
-[Ava] Yeah, it's going.
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-[Shane] It's going above us.
-[Marjorie] Okay.
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[Ava] That's not stars.
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[narrator] Ava and her familysubmitted a 45-second clipof their encounter
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that occurredon September 21st 2023in Pennsylvania for review.
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I love to have it
because it gives us an idea.
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So you can say,
"Hey, this is what I saw."
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So other people can relate
to see if they've seen
the same thing.
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So when we did
the video analysis,
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we determined that...
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It wasn't faked or it wasn't
manipulated in any way.
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Uh-hm.
436
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And then we get into date,
time and location.
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-And we have that, right?
-Yeah.
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So we do cross analysis
of databases, right?
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To see if there is any other
sightings in that region.
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And we found out...
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that there was
multiple sightings
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within that region.
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[narrator] On the same nightthat Ava and her familywitnessed the lights,
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Chrissy's teamfound 24 similar reports
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recorded by other witnessesin the area.
446
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-[man 1] Holy cow.
-[man 2] What the hell is it?
447
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,367
So let me ask you
one question.
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Let's go back to what you saw.
449
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How many lights
did you see in a row?
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[Marjorie] Six to 12.
451
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-[Ava] I'd say about 12.- [Chrissy] You said 6.
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-I said eight to ten.
-Eight to ten?
453
00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:18,100
-Yeah.
-Yeah, I'd say 12.
It was a lot.
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Yeah.
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So we did a freeze frame
of your video.
456
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[mysterious music playing]
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We saw that it was 22 lights,
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-Twenty-two?
-What?
459
00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:32,000
[suspenseful music playing]
460
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,400
When we freeze framed
and saw those
22 string of lights,
461
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we looked at NORAD data
to see if we could
find anything
462
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that might
potentially correlate
with what you saw.
463
00:22:42,867 --> 00:22:44,634
Hm. Okay.
464
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,700
[suspenseful music playing]
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I'm gonna show you
a few photos.
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Does this look like
what you saw?
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00:22:58,867 --> 00:23:00,700
[suspenseful music playing]
468
00:23:02,767 --> 00:23:05,533
Yeah, it looks
very similar to that.
469
00:23:07,367 --> 00:23:08,567
And it was brighter.
470
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But it looks very similar.
471
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[Chrissy] What about this one?
472
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-[Shawn] Yeah, that's--
That's definitely it.
-[Ava] That was it.
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It looks just like that,
exactly like that.
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So here's the thing.
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When we looked
at NORAD tracking
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on September 19th,
477
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two days
before your family sighting,
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we did see something.
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[intense music playing]
480
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Starlink had a launch.
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It's called Group 6-17.
482
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[suspenseful music playing]
483
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[narrator] Starlinkis an Internet satellite
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developed by Elon Musk'sSpaceX.
485
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It orbits the Earthin a synchronized formation.
486
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Often appearingas a linked chainof lights in the sky.
487
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Though the 6-17 launchoccurred two daysbefore Ava's sighting,
488
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the satellite stringwas visiblefor nearly ten days.
489
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[suspenseful music playing]
490
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:19,133
You're not the only person
that noticed this sighting.
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As witnesses,
as far as I'm concerned,
you all are impeccable.
492
00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:28,900
But the data is definitive.
493
00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,634
You did not witness a UFO.
494
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:38,367
Oh, man. [sighs]
495
00:24:38,367 --> 00:24:40,667
It kind of sucks because I was
kind of hoping, you know...
496
00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:43,266
-It sucks, really.
-...it was really something,
you know?
497
00:24:43,266 --> 00:24:45,266
-[Chrissy] What we call thatis an IFO.
-[Ava] Yeah.
498
00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:47,166
- [Chrissy] You've identifieda flying object.- [Ava] Yeah.
499
00:24:47,166 --> 00:24:49,567
[Chrissy] Sometimes we want
an identified flying object
500
00:24:49,567 --> 00:24:52,266
for the fact that knowing
that you can identify it
501
00:24:52,266 --> 00:24:53,800
helps us
to be able to figure out
502
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,266
-ones that we can't identify.
-[Mitch] Exactly.
503
00:24:56,266 --> 00:24:59,266
We can't thank you guys enough
for being public,
504
00:24:59,266 --> 00:25:00,800
stepping up with this story.
505
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,900
I know you've gotten
some answers today
that are mundane.
506
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:08,333
But the point is
to keep searching,
and build a record.
507
00:25:13,166 --> 00:25:15,100
It's there. It sucks.
508
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,367
It sucks that it wasn't
what I wanted it to be.
509
00:25:17,367 --> 00:25:19,500
-Bye, bye.
-Safe travels.
510
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:24,100
It clears up one thing, but...
511
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,600
I still have
all the rest of the UFOs
512
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200
that I've seen in my life
to, you know,
513
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,967
-really try to figure out--
-Right, this one may have been
a satellite,
514
00:25:31,967 --> 00:25:34,667
but who's to say
what we've seen
before was or was not?
515
00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:36,400
They've had other experiences.
516
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,166
And, um, checking one box
doesn't mean
checking all of them.
517
00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:41,600
We have to remember that.
518
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,233
[calm music playing]
519
00:25:48,467 --> 00:25:50,934
[techno music playing]
520
00:26:04,066 --> 00:26:05,567
Well, hello, my man.
521
00:26:05,567 --> 00:26:06,867
-Have a seat, please.
-Yeah.
522
00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:07,867
Thank you for meeting with me.
523
00:26:07,867 --> 00:26:09,700
-Thanks for being here, man.
-Yeah, of course.
524
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,000
Uh, Where-- Where is home?
Where are you from?
525
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,867
Uh, now, Cottonwood, Arizona,
just right outside of Sedona.
526
00:26:15,867 --> 00:26:21,767
Please, tell us the story
of your experience
in your own terms.
527
00:26:21,767 --> 00:26:23,133
Yeah, absolutely.
528
00:26:23,133 --> 00:26:25,467
Uh, it's good to have
someone to talk about it with,
to be honest.
529
00:26:25,467 --> 00:26:27,700
-[Mitch] That's what
we're here for.
-Yeah.
530
00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:30,000
[mysterious music playing]
531
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,867
My name is Juergen Hess.
532
00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:34,400
And I thinkthat aliens saved my life.
533
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,667
[upbeat music playing]
534
00:26:37,667 --> 00:26:40,266
[Juergen] I was givinga friend of minea ride home one night.
535
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:44,600
And we were going
80 miles an hour
in an SUV in the fast lane.
536
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,166
She said something to me
and I looked at her,
answered her,
537
00:26:49,166 --> 00:26:52,900
and when I looked back,
all the cars in front of us
had come to a stop.
538
00:26:53,767 --> 00:26:55,166
I shouted at her,
539
00:26:55,166 --> 00:26:56,600
"We're gonna hit."
540
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,367
I hit my foot on the brakes,
the tires locked up,
541
00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:03,567
and the last thing I did was
crank the steering wheel
to the side and ducked.
542
00:27:03,567 --> 00:27:05,300
And there was
a flash of light.
543
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,100
I was videotaping one night,
544
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,133
and I audibly asked the craft.
545
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,066
[intense music playing]
546
00:27:17,066 --> 00:27:19,200
It wasn't blinking
until I asked the question.
547
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,433
[suspenseful music playing]
548
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,433
I'm not making anything up.
549
00:27:25,867 --> 00:27:27,367
All the cars in front of us
had come to a stop.
550
00:27:27,367 --> 00:27:30,266
I shouted at her,
"We're gonna hit."
551
00:27:30,266 --> 00:27:33,100
I hit my foot on the brakes,
the tires locked up,
552
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,967
and the last thing I did was,
553
00:27:34,967 --> 00:27:37,266
crank the steering wheel
to the side and ducked.
554
00:27:37,266 --> 00:27:39,033
And there was
a flash of light.
555
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,133
[somber music playing]
556
00:27:45,166 --> 00:27:48,567
And the next thing we know,
we're sitting upright,
557
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:51,066
driving 80 miles
an hour still,
558
00:27:51,066 --> 00:27:54,100
now in the carpool lane,
with all those cars behind us.
559
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,000
[pensive music playing]
560
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,767
It was impossible.
561
00:27:59,767 --> 00:28:02,400
It was something
I couldn't understand.
562
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000
It wasn't weird enough
to make me think,
"Oh! It's aliens!"
563
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,667
[chuckles] Like, you know?
564
00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:09,667
But the bizarre thingwas that,
565
00:28:09,667 --> 00:28:12,834
more things
kept happening to me
that I couldn't explain.
566
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,967
And then there was
this one night.
567
00:28:15,967 --> 00:28:18,000
[suspenseful music playing]
568
00:28:19,567 --> 00:28:22,600
I woke up in an extreme panic.
569
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,667
[gasps]
570
00:28:24,667 --> 00:28:29,100
And the sheet got pulled up
over my head
571
00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:31,900
and back tight.
572
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:34,433
So much so, that it pulled
my forehead back.
573
00:28:35,266 --> 00:28:37,400
My instant reaction
was my hands reached up,
574
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,600
grabbed it and pulled it down.
575
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,967
And when that happened,
I froze.
576
00:28:40,967 --> 00:28:42,900
And I couldn't move
any part of my body.
577
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,767
I couldn't move my eyeballs.
Nothing.
578
00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:49,867
And I've heard that expression
"frozen with fear" before,
579
00:28:49,867 --> 00:28:52,967
and that's the only way
I could describe it
at the time.
580
00:28:52,967 --> 00:28:55,133
I was literally
frozen in fear.
581
00:28:56,066 --> 00:28:58,000
[eerie music playing]
582
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,100
At that point, I realized
there's something more
583
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,233
going on than we understand.
584
00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:07,000
I knew there was somethingin my room that night.
585
00:29:09,166 --> 00:29:11,567
But I had nothing
to go on for myself.
586
00:29:11,567 --> 00:29:15,734
You know, I can't just
personally decide
whether or not it's aliens.
587
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:21,900
I needed to be able
to have an encounter
or something to support that.
588
00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:24,700
And you know,
that's when I moved to Sedona.
589
00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:31,867
With the UFO phenomenain the Sedona area,
590
00:29:31,867 --> 00:29:35,467
you can see so much activity
on a regular basis
591
00:29:35,467 --> 00:29:39,133
that I went there specifically
to try to see UFOs,
592
00:29:40,667 --> 00:29:44,900
[narrator] The historyof Sedona's associationwith UFOs dates back decades,
593
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,700
with reportsof mysterious lights
594
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:48,467
and unidentifiedflying objects
595
00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:50,867
frequently documentedin the region.
596
00:29:50,867 --> 00:29:54,767
Sedona's skiescontinue to fuelfascination and speculation
597
00:29:54,767 --> 00:29:57,700
about the existenceof extraterrestrial life.
598
00:30:00,567 --> 00:30:03,033
I packed up everything
that I could fit in my car.
599
00:30:03,967 --> 00:30:06,634
And I moved out there
from Los Angeles.
600
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,700
That's when
it really escalated,
was at that point.
601
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,900
When you're there,
it feels very different.
602
00:30:22,467 --> 00:30:27,533
I was going out
and starting to capture
these unidentified craft.
603
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,567
And one of the things
I noticed is,
604
00:30:32,567 --> 00:30:34,900
a lot of the craft
have the ability...
605
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,767
...to flash
a really bright light.
606
00:30:39,767 --> 00:30:42,634
I mean, to where
it's the brightest thing
in the sky when it flashes.
607
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,100
'Cause there's no handbookon this kind of research
608
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,767
or these type of encounters.
609
00:30:49,767 --> 00:30:51,500
So it's a lot
of hit and miss.
610
00:30:54,066 --> 00:30:56,867
January 2nd 2024.
611
00:30:56,867 --> 00:30:59,800
It was about 6:55
in the winter.
612
00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:07,634
It was such
an unexplainable experience.
613
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,400
I was videotaping one night.
614
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,900
So I'm tapinga really dim craft.
615
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,800
I audibly asked the craft.
616
00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:25,300
[suspenseful music playing]
617
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,900
And sure enough,
the craft flashes so bright,
618
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:33,900
you can-- I mean,
it becomes the brightest
619
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,600
spot of light in the sky
for a moment.
620
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:38,734
And you wouldn't think
621
00:31:38,734 --> 00:31:42,066
you could just ask
a question and get an answer.
622
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:45,166
[Juergen] Flash if you want
to connect with us.
623
00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:48,000
So we need to get overthe whole "Is it realor is it not" thing.
624
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:51,767
They're so real
that I can take people
625
00:31:51,767 --> 00:31:54,133
and show them
to them any night
there's not clouds.
626
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,500
This phenomena
lets us have evidence.
627
00:32:01,767 --> 00:32:03,767
Obviously,
you're very committed
to this experience.
628
00:32:03,767 --> 00:32:06,100
-You relocated your home.
-Yep.
629
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,667
Uh, to dive deeper
into this phenomenon.
630
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:11,467
And you've also
submitted evidence.
631
00:32:11,467 --> 00:32:13,567
-In this case, video evidence.
-Yes.
632
00:32:13,567 --> 00:32:16,700
[narrator]
Juergen Hess submitteda 14-second long video
633
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:20,200
that he recordedon January 2nd, 2024
634
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,367
that shows a lightmoving across the sky
635
00:32:23,367 --> 00:32:26,433
that appears to flashin response to his question.
636
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,567
[Mitch]
Chrissy and her colleagues
have analyzed video evidence.
637
00:32:34,567 --> 00:32:36,500
-Right.
-And I want to turn it
over to her.
638
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,300
-It'd be great
if we could hear--
-I would love to hear that.
639
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,667
So one of the first things
we did was look at flight data
640
00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:44,300
for that date,
and time, and location.
641
00:32:45,166 --> 00:32:49,166
And it showed
there was no air traffic
642
00:32:49,166 --> 00:32:51,600
over the location of where
you had your sighting.
643
00:32:53,967 --> 00:32:55,834
And then we looked
at satellite data.
644
00:32:58,166 --> 00:32:59,734
The satellite data showed
645
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,433
no visible satellites.
646
00:33:07,467 --> 00:33:10,400
We had two different experts
look at this.
647
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,900
And...
648
00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,367
One of our analysts
was curious to see
649
00:33:15,367 --> 00:33:18,266
if it potentially would be
the International
Space Station.
650
00:33:18,266 --> 00:33:20,667
Did you ever think
that it possibly could be?
651
00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:23,166
Uh, it's always on my mind.
652
00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:26,600
I have seen
the ISS before in person.
653
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,000
Um, it goes
in a straight line,
moves at the same speed.
654
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,200
It is pretty bright.
655
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,500
Uh, you do notice it.
656
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,400
Um, I've never seen it
reply to a question, though.
657
00:33:35,867 --> 00:33:37,233
We did find, though,
658
00:33:38,166 --> 00:33:39,900
the International
Space Station
659
00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:43,900
was over Europe
at that point in time.
660
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,767
Oh! Okay, good. Yeah.
661
00:33:48,767 --> 00:33:52,400
One of our other analysts
did come to us and say that...
662
00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:58,066
They thought that it could be
a rocket booster
663
00:33:58,066 --> 00:33:59,934
that was entering
the atmosphere.
664
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,767
I'm not-- I mean,
it was going upwards.
665
00:34:06,767 --> 00:34:11,100
So I'm not sure
how a rocket falling goes up?
666
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,100
[narrator]
Rocket boosters helppropel rockets into orbit
667
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,000
and then typically fall backinto the Earth's atmosphere,
668
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,900
where they eventuallyincinerate.
669
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,400
However, as debris such asa rocket booster falls,
670
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,767
it rotates and reflectsthe sun's light,
671
00:34:25,767 --> 00:34:27,133
creating a blinking pattern.
672
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:30,934
This pattern will continueas the debrismoves across the sky.
673
00:34:32,567 --> 00:34:34,867
We noticed, though,
with the spinning,
674
00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,700
light might catch off it,
light might reflect off it.
675
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,500
So that potentially
could be something
676
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,967
that we're seeing
from that blinking indication.
677
00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:43,500
[somber music playing]
678
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,867
For me, that is
an almost incomprehensible
679
00:34:48,867 --> 00:34:51,700
amount of coincidence.
680
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,967
That a piece of debris
681
00:34:54,967 --> 00:34:59,033
could only make flashes
that are so bright
682
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,100
when it's being
asked questions.
683
00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:03,900
I'd have to have it
explained to me in a more--
684
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:06,667
In a way that made
a little more sense
as to how it could do that.
685
00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:09,233
[intense music playing]
686
00:35:13,667 --> 00:35:16,467
When I look at the analysis
and the report,
687
00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:18,900
and I look at the evidence
and I look at the video,
688
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,133
I have to say that...
689
00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:27,400
[Morse code beeping]
690
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,700
[reporter 1] Headline edition,July 8th 1947.
691
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:33,233
It was nicely hushed up.
692
00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:35,667
[reporter 2] Army Air Forceofficers reported
693
00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:38,200
that one of the strange diskshave been found and inspected
694
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,467
sometime last week.
695
00:35:40,467 --> 00:35:43,233
The disc landed at a ranchin Corona, New Mexico.
696
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,900
That's a goddamn spaceship.
697
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:48,367
You get the hell out of here
and you didn't see anything,
698
00:35:48,367 --> 00:35:49,734
and you don't talk to anybody.
699
00:35:49,734 --> 00:35:52,500
[reporter 2] And the rancherturned it overto the Air Force.
700
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,166
The craft had burst open.
701
00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:57,467
But it looked like
unrolled tin foil
702
00:35:57,467 --> 00:35:59,900
that these other
three creatures were laying.
703
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:02,300
[reporter 2] He saysthat it was "so battered."
704
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:05,567
And he described itas being madeof some sort of tin foil.
705
00:36:05,567 --> 00:36:08,066
When we got up to it,
706
00:36:08,066 --> 00:36:11,467
there were four bodies there,
not human.
707
00:36:11,467 --> 00:36:13,266
In fact, he said,
the skin would look like
708
00:36:13,266 --> 00:36:16,166
they could almost
see through it,
almost transparent.
709
00:36:16,166 --> 00:36:18,600
[reporter 2] The Armymay be getting
to the bottom of all this talk
710
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,600
about the so-calledflying saucer.
711
00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:28,967
We noticed with the spinning,
712
00:36:28,967 --> 00:36:30,667
light might reflect off it.
713
00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:32,367
So that potentially
could be something
714
00:36:32,367 --> 00:36:34,900
that we're seeing
from that blinking indication.
715
00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:39,600
That is an almost
incomprehensible
716
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,400
amount of coincidence.
717
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,600
That a piece of debris
718
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,800
could only make flashes
that are so bright
719
00:36:50,467 --> 00:36:51,934
when it's being
asked questions.
720
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,567
I'd have to have it
explained to me in a more--
721
00:36:54,567 --> 00:36:57,367
In a way that made
a little more sense
as to how it could do that.
722
00:36:57,367 --> 00:36:59,834
[intense music playing]
723
00:37:02,767 --> 00:37:05,467
How long did you see
the object blinking for?
724
00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:08,233
Well, it wasn't blinking
until I asked the question.
725
00:37:12,467 --> 00:37:16,266
So I was watching the object
for about 30 seconds.
726
00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:17,033
Before answering the question,
727
00:37:17,033 --> 00:37:19,033
and it had not made
any blinks.
728
00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:25,233
[suspenseful music playing]
729
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,400
Just to confirm that one blink
was the only type of flash,
730
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,266
or blink that happened
in that one video.
731
00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:36,600
Correct. That's the only flash
that craft made. Yep.
732
00:37:41,767 --> 00:37:43,667
[narrator] In the videoJuergen submitted,
733
00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:47,000
the object blinks only oncebefore disappearing,
734
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,867
ruling outthe space debris theory.
735
00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:51,166
[suspenseful music playing]
736
00:37:51,166 --> 00:37:52,700
Did the object
ever change direction,
737
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,467
or did it stay
in a straight line?
738
00:37:54,467 --> 00:37:57,133
Um, that object
traveled in a straight line.
739
00:37:59,567 --> 00:38:01,367
-Did it keep going, though?
-It did.
740
00:38:01,367 --> 00:38:03,100
[stammers] It kept going.
741
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,767
That one went
in a straight line,
finally disappeared
742
00:38:05,767 --> 00:38:08,200
-when it got to about
the top of the sky.
-Okay.
743
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,367
Uh, we wa--
I watched it kind of,
744
00:38:10,367 --> 00:38:12,700
maybe ten degrees
off the horizon.
745
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,700
How long did you observe it
traveling for?
746
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:23,600
It covered that amount
in maybe a minute, that night?
747
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,166
Yeah. I'd say they move
at different speeds.
748
00:38:26,166 --> 00:38:27,700
Yeah, they're not
all the same.
749
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:30,100
I've seen some going so slow.
750
00:38:31,066 --> 00:38:33,300
[suspenseful music playing]
751
00:38:36,066 --> 00:38:37,734
I'm not making anything up.
752
00:38:43,467 --> 00:38:46,367
So when I'm looking
at this information
753
00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:48,333
and hearing your testimony,
754
00:38:50,367 --> 00:38:52,800
and I look at the evidence
and I look at the video.
755
00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,333
I have to say that...
756
00:38:58,967 --> 00:39:01,166
I just don't have
enough data to go over here
757
00:39:01,166 --> 00:39:04,300
and to be able to fully
give up a proper analysis.
758
00:39:04,767 --> 00:39:06,767
Right.
759
00:39:06,767 --> 00:39:10,266
When I first walked in here,
to be 100 percent
frank with you,
760
00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:13,867
I thought this is
going to be a no for me.
761
00:39:13,867 --> 00:39:18,300
But I think your credibility
as a witness
ranks very, very high.
762
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,867
Um, Chrissy's analysis
763
00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:26,834
found no other objects
at that time.
764
00:39:27,767 --> 00:39:30,800
There was no
identifiable air traffic.
765
00:39:32,767 --> 00:39:35,900
We have
the space debris thesis,
766
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:39,500
but that's very general
and it doesn't really apply
767
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:43,567
because the object
didn't blink
over and over again,
768
00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:46,800
as one might expect
from space debris.
769
00:39:47,767 --> 00:39:48,900
I believe...
770
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,634
[suspenseful music playing]
771
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,834
You witnessed the UFO.
772
00:39:57,567 --> 00:39:59,000
I believe your account
773
00:39:59,767 --> 00:40:02,000
I definitely appreciate that.
Thanks.
774
00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,333
It's really nice to...
775
00:40:05,367 --> 00:40:08,100
have somebody else
be able to take a look
776
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,767
at what I've been
saying and doing
777
00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:12,166
and actually say
he's not lying
778
00:40:12,166 --> 00:40:13,967
because I'm not
trying to trick anyone.
779
00:40:13,967 --> 00:40:16,600
It's-- There's so many people
interested in this subject,
780
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,066
and so confused about it.
781
00:40:18,066 --> 00:40:21,567
And I feel like
if the phenomena
is that regular here,
782
00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,266
and I'm able to capture it,
783
00:40:23,266 --> 00:40:24,667
I would like
to be able to share it
784
00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:27,400
so people
don't get so afraid of it,
785
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,700
and can realize it's there
and probably been there
786
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:31,967
a long, long time, you know?
787
00:40:31,967 --> 00:40:32,934
-Thank you so much.
-Pleasure.
788
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,567
Before going full on
into this investigation,
789
00:40:37,567 --> 00:40:38,967
I had a great job I loved,
790
00:40:38,967 --> 00:40:41,467
but I had to sacrifice
everything I knew,
791
00:40:41,467 --> 00:40:44,066
everything I was familiar with
and be alone.
792
00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:47,567
I am finally
on the right path and doing
what I should be doing.
793
00:40:47,567 --> 00:40:49,467
I did see a UFO,
794
00:40:49,467 --> 00:40:52,033
and now I'm going to go out
and see some more.
795
00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:55,300
[suspenseful music playing]
796
00:40:57,266 --> 00:41:00,467
[people speaking]
797
00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:02,266
I could see, like,
the shape of it.
798
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:04,400
It was your classic saucer.
799
00:41:06,467 --> 00:41:10,100
The car's surrounded
by this white, blue light.
800
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,900
It felt like it was
moving through me.
801
00:41:17,166 --> 00:41:19,066
[woman] I was on the train.
802
00:41:19,066 --> 00:41:21,100
Took out my iPhoneand I take a shot.
803
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,867
I look at the picture
and I realize
804
00:41:22,867 --> 00:41:25,500
that I have
that amazing photo.
805
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:28,166
I've never shown it
to anyone before.
65642
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