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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:03,166 Bizarre experiences were happening to me 2 00:00:03,166 --> 00:00:04,867 that I couldn't explain. 3 00:00:04,867 --> 00:00:08,166 And it's starting to make me feel like I was crazy. 4 00:00:08,166 --> 00:00:10,600 Flash if you want to connect with us. 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,700 And right when I say that, bang! 6 00:00:14,367 --> 00:00:16,300 Nobody's ever gonna believe this. 7 00:00:17,166 --> 00:00:20,900 They were moving just very slowly across the sky. 8 00:00:20,900 --> 00:00:23,367 I'm seeing it. We're seeing it. 9 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:26,567 Why me? Why am I experiencing these things? 10 00:00:26,567 --> 00:00:29,133 What-- what do I have to offer? 11 00:00:31,266 --> 00:00:33,867 It was an energy and power 12 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:35,867 that I felt and saw 13 00:00:35,867 --> 00:00:39,367 that was different than I've ever seen before. 14 00:00:39,367 --> 00:00:41,667 At the end of the day, I just want to know 15 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:43,667 what I saw, on that day, 16 00:00:43,667 --> 00:00:44,867 on that island. 17 00:00:44,867 --> 00:00:46,300 I just want answers. 18 00:00:47,967 --> 00:00:49,100 I believe... 19 00:00:52,567 --> 00:00:54,300 you witnessed a UFO. 20 00:00:56,767 --> 00:00:57,700 [woman 1] I see it again. 21 00:00:57,700 --> 00:00:59,066 I see it. I see it. 22 00:00:59,066 --> 00:01:02,400 [woman 2] Oh my God. Holy [bleep]. 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,000 [man 1] You've gotta see this. You've gotta see this. 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,100 [narrator] Around the world, 25 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:08,567 people are witnessing and capturing 26 00:01:08,567 --> 00:01:11,100 unexplained phenomena everyday. 27 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:12,667 There's a feeling you get, 28 00:01:12,667 --> 00:01:15,567 the hairs on your arms and your neck kind of stand up. 29 00:01:15,567 --> 00:01:17,767 [man 2] What the [bleep] is that? 30 00:01:17,767 --> 00:01:20,000 There was a lot that pointed me in the direction 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,567 of something non human. 32 00:01:21,567 --> 00:01:23,400 [woman 3] Oh [bleep], there it goes. 33 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,467 [man 3 speaking] 34 00:01:25,467 --> 00:01:28,100 [narrator] And they are looking for answers. 35 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:31,500 It left me with a lot of... questions. 36 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:33,667 The recent release of thousands of pages 37 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:36,467 of declassified US government documents, 38 00:01:36,467 --> 00:01:38,367 whistleblower testimony... 39 00:01:38,367 --> 00:01:40,567 [man 4] These objects had been observed for over two weeks, 40 00:01:40,567 --> 00:01:42,700 coming down from over 80,000 feet. 41 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:46,266 [narrator] ...and shocking new evidence could hold the answer. 42 00:01:46,266 --> 00:01:47,900 Can you confirm that's what it was? 43 00:01:47,900 --> 00:01:49,600 -Yes, that's what it was. -Okay. 44 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,066 Now, two expert investigators will use this new information 45 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:57,133 and their expertise, to unlock the truth. 46 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,800 I'm experiencing chills over here. 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,667 Mitch Horowitz is an author and historian, 48 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:06,667 known for his investigative research 49 00:02:06,667 --> 00:02:08,200 into the unexplained. 50 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,900 You all have had some very mysterious experiences, 51 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:16,166 The video was extremely compelling. 52 00:02:16,166 --> 00:02:18,166 And Chrissy Newton is a journalist 53 00:02:18,166 --> 00:02:21,967 and authority on space, science, and the unknown. 54 00:02:21,967 --> 00:02:24,400 We were told that this was a secret location. 55 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,467 Absolutely. 56 00:02:26,467 --> 00:02:28,800 When I looked up, I saw a UFO in the sky. 57 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,967 Thousands of experiencers came forward and submitted 58 00:02:31,967 --> 00:02:35,166 their personal stories and evidence for examination. 59 00:02:35,166 --> 00:02:38,500 These beings were so gloriously beautiful. 60 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:42,567 Hoping to finally separate fact from fiction. 61 00:02:42,567 --> 00:02:43,867 Based on everything 62 00:02:43,867 --> 00:02:45,600 that you've brought to the table... 63 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:49,033 you witnessed a UFO. 64 00:03:01,066 --> 00:03:04,367 [Mitch] In evaluating a UFO account, 65 00:03:04,367 --> 00:03:07,367 what I personally take into consideration 66 00:03:07,367 --> 00:03:11,467 is the question, "is this a source 67 00:03:11,467 --> 00:03:12,834 that I can trust?" 68 00:03:12,834 --> 00:03:15,200 [Chrissy] First thing I look for is date, time and location. 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,367 Second one is testimony from the person 70 00:03:18,367 --> 00:03:21,967 who had the first account in social media coverage 71 00:03:21,967 --> 00:03:23,567 or any type of local media coverage 72 00:03:23,567 --> 00:03:25,066 on the same day of the sighting. 73 00:03:25,066 --> 00:03:27,767 I'm looking forward to speaking with John. 74 00:03:27,767 --> 00:03:30,100 We're moving up uh, the Atlantic to Maine. 75 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:31,200 Yeah, he's a lobster man. 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,066 Maine is a mysterious state. 77 00:03:33,066 --> 00:03:35,600 Yeah. Oh yeah, it's a super mysterious state. 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,900 -[Mitch] Hey, come in. -[John] How's it going? 79 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:39,367 -I'm Mitch. How you doing? -I'm John. 80 00:03:39,367 --> 00:03:41,400 -Chrissy. Nice to meet you, John. -John, nice to meet you. 81 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,567 [Mitch] Thanks for being here. 82 00:03:42,567 --> 00:03:43,567 Yeah. Thanks for having me. 83 00:03:43,567 --> 00:03:44,767 Absolutely. 84 00:03:44,767 --> 00:03:46,700 Well, let me tell you what we're going to do here today. 85 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:51,700 We have some of the details of your UFO experience. 86 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:54,767 And we want to really hear the story directly 87 00:03:54,767 --> 00:03:57,400 from you to make sure we haven't missed any details 88 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,934 or anything that's personally important. 89 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:03,967 My name is John Leavitt. 90 00:04:03,967 --> 00:04:09,000 Most of the things in my life, I can explain 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,900 This is one of the things that I can't. 92 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:16,000 I live in Portland, Maine. 93 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:18,767 Maine's a pretty quiet place, 94 00:04:18,767 --> 00:04:21,200 and we like to keep it that way. 95 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:25,000 I'm a normal dude. 96 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,667 You know, I like hiking. 97 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:27,867 I like working out. 98 00:04:27,867 --> 00:04:30,000 I like hanging out with my friends. 99 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,767 I love my wife more than anything in the world. 100 00:04:32,767 --> 00:04:36,600 UFOs are not something that I'm into. 101 00:04:37,967 --> 00:04:41,133 It was like October 30th, 2013. 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,367 It was uh, a really 103 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:46,600 unusual October day. 104 00:04:48,467 --> 00:04:50,767 It was a warm day. It was like 80°. 105 00:04:50,767 --> 00:04:54,100 And uh, my friends and I decided to go camping 106 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,166 off the coast of Cape Elizabeth, Maine, 107 00:04:56,166 --> 00:04:59,100 to an island called Richmond Island. 108 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:01,166 It was a great day. We had a lot of fun. 109 00:05:01,166 --> 00:05:04,600 We got food and sandwiches and we went swimming. 110 00:05:05,467 --> 00:05:07,900 We were all having just a great time, 111 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:11,133 and day kind of turned into night. 112 00:05:12,367 --> 00:05:16,233 So a bunch of us all just went for a walk around the island. 113 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:19,000 On that particular island, 114 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,500 during the summer, there is a caretaker house. 115 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:23,567 We just walked up to it to check it out 116 00:05:23,567 --> 00:05:25,166 because no one was there. 117 00:05:25,166 --> 00:05:26,800 We were just kind of hanging out, 118 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,567 kicking it by the porch and talking, 119 00:05:29,567 --> 00:05:31,800 and one of us noticed a light in the sky. 120 00:05:34,066 --> 00:05:35,567 We all just kept talking 121 00:05:35,567 --> 00:05:37,800 and just kind of brushed it off. 122 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,233 But then it kept coming closer to us. 123 00:05:40,867 --> 00:05:43,000 And it kept getting bigger. 124 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,900 And pardon my language, 125 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:47,133 but we were all like, "What the [bleep] is this?" 126 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:51,634 It just kind of hovered above us. 127 00:05:53,266 --> 00:05:56,367 It was probably 15, 20 feet away from us, 128 00:05:56,367 --> 00:05:59,266 and it was like a giant light. 129 00:05:59,266 --> 00:06:03,000 And you couldn't see the shape of it at this point or anything. 130 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,266 It was just a giant light. 131 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:08,200 So we started to walk off and... 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,867 just like that, the light just went away. 133 00:06:10,867 --> 00:06:13,433 It just kind of like, slowly went off. 134 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,900 So we're a little shooken up, 135 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:20,467 but you know, us gentlemen kept talking 136 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:23,266 and our bravado got the best of us. 137 00:06:23,266 --> 00:06:25,867 And we're like, well, yeah, if that craft landed, 138 00:06:25,867 --> 00:06:27,867 we would have, you know, shown them our-- 139 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:29,867 We thought it was over, you know, 140 00:06:29,867 --> 00:06:32,767 and we just thought this was going to be a great story 141 00:06:32,767 --> 00:06:34,767 to tell our grandkids or whatever. 142 00:06:34,767 --> 00:06:36,100 But it wasn't over. 143 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:39,000 And this is the truly terrifying part. 144 00:06:41,667 --> 00:06:42,600 It came back. 145 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,400 And it kind of didn't gradually come back. 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,333 It just came back. And the light was on us. 147 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:54,000 We're all jumping on the ground, terrified. 148 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,166 And I look up 149 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:59,600 and all I see is just this huge light. 150 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,667 I could feel some type of just, energy. 151 00:07:03,667 --> 00:07:06,000 I'm the type of guy that doesn't really back down. 152 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,700 But this presence, it was an energy and power 153 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:12,767 that I felt and saw 154 00:07:12,767 --> 00:07:15,800 that was different than I've ever seen before. 155 00:07:16,567 --> 00:07:18,000 When I looked up at it, 156 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,166 it kind of almost metamorphosized 157 00:07:22,166 --> 00:07:26,867 into like a, a-- almost like a fighter jet 158 00:07:26,867 --> 00:07:30,367 Like a, like a-- an arrow sphere, you know? 159 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:33,400 And then that's when it just took off. 160 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,934 The fastest thing I've ever seen in my life. 161 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:41,900 I mean, it was gone in a second, out of sight. 162 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:43,734 It was definitely terrifying. 163 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,033 I think if I had been alone, 164 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,066 I don't-- I don't know if I would have ever 165 00:07:55,066 --> 00:07:57,000 brought the story up, 166 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,066 but the fact that, like, 167 00:07:59,066 --> 00:08:01,667 my good friends, who I know to be 168 00:08:01,667 --> 00:08:03,100 very credible, 169 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:06,500 very honest and capable human beings, 170 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,567 you know, saw the same thing too. 171 00:08:09,567 --> 00:08:13,433 I think it would be really great to understand what I saw. 172 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:17,934 [Mitch] What can we do for you? 173 00:08:17,934 --> 00:08:20,300 What are you hoping to get out of... 174 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:22,567 this discussion today? 175 00:08:22,567 --> 00:08:25,767 There's a lot of different ways my mind thinks and, 176 00:08:25,767 --> 00:08:29,400 and I wish I could just know what it was, 177 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,200 so I could at least put a little closure on that. 178 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:37,300 -Chrissy has worked with analysts... -Mm-hmm. 179 00:08:37,300 --> 00:08:39,000 ...who have taken a look 180 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,600 at the information that you submitted. 181 00:08:43,767 --> 00:08:47,800 John Leavitt provided the date, time and location. 182 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,233 And a detailed description of his encounter to the research team. 183 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:56,433 But he did not have any photographic or video evidence to submit. 184 00:08:58,166 --> 00:08:59,667 Was there a reason why you weren't able 185 00:08:59,667 --> 00:09:01,767 to take a photo or a video by chance? 186 00:09:01,767 --> 00:09:03,166 It was fear. 187 00:09:03,166 --> 00:09:05,266 And, "what is this? 188 00:09:05,266 --> 00:09:06,700 Let's get to safety," not, 189 00:09:06,700 --> 00:09:08,266 "let's take a picture of it." 190 00:09:08,266 --> 00:09:10,867 That's the level of fear I think I was at. 191 00:09:10,867 --> 00:09:12,400 Fear of the unknown, I guess. 192 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,367 -Hmm. -Yeah. 193 00:09:13,367 --> 00:09:16,166 So we looked at your date, time and location, 194 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:19,533 and we cross checked it with multiple UFO databases. 195 00:09:20,867 --> 00:09:22,867 There was nothing that we've seen in that area 196 00:09:22,867 --> 00:09:24,533 that could relate to be a UFO. 197 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:29,667 We also looked at flight data, satellite, rocket launch data 198 00:09:29,667 --> 00:09:31,634 to see if there's any correlations as well. 199 00:09:33,867 --> 00:09:34,900 At that time, 200 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:37,634 we didn't see any other airplanes or aircraft. 201 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:42,266 That means that there was nothing that we've seen in that area 202 00:09:42,266 --> 00:09:45,667 that could be a plane or a drone or anything else during that time. 203 00:09:45,667 --> 00:09:49,100 There was nothing concrete that explains what you saw. 204 00:09:50,967 --> 00:09:54,600 But I don't have video. I don't have photo. 205 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Unfortunately, 206 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,834 I just don't have enough data to say that it's a UFO. 207 00:10:03,166 --> 00:10:04,600 I have my own outlook. 208 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,367 I strongly disagree with Chrissy's assessment. 209 00:10:07,367 --> 00:10:09,266 [Chrissy] I wish I had more data. 210 00:10:09,266 --> 00:10:11,700 Sometimes you have to throw out the rule book. 211 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:16,100 [woman 3] Me and my kids were driving, and... 212 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:17,967 from the back of the car I can see 213 00:10:17,967 --> 00:10:19,700 this string of lights in the sky. 214 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:21,567 What in the [bleep] is in the sky? 215 00:10:21,567 --> 00:10:22,567 [woman 4] It's moving. 216 00:10:22,567 --> 00:10:23,467 [woman 3] Yeah, it's going. 217 00:10:27,667 --> 00:10:31,567 I don't have video. I don't have photo. 218 00:10:31,567 --> 00:10:36,300 Unfortunately, I just don't have enough data to say that it's a UFO. 219 00:10:37,767 --> 00:10:39,133 I have my own outlook. 220 00:10:40,367 --> 00:10:41,233 First of all, 221 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:44,567 as witnesses, as far as I'm concerned, 222 00:10:44,567 --> 00:10:45,900 you know the outdoors. 223 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:47,400 You know the terrain. 224 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,567 You had friends with you, two of them, 225 00:10:49,567 --> 00:10:52,000 who are trained marine biologists. 226 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:54,100 Furthermore, 227 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 there is a long history 228 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,166 of these sightings in the New England area 229 00:11:01,166 --> 00:11:05,400 that predate the modern UFO era. 230 00:11:06,567 --> 00:11:08,867 There was a book written in 1853 231 00:11:08,867 --> 00:11:11,000 by a New England-based author 232 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,567 named Andrew Jackson Davis. 233 00:11:13,567 --> 00:11:16,100 It was called The Present Age and the Inner Life. 234 00:11:17,467 --> 00:11:21,100 And in that book are three vivid illustrations 235 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:25,133 of brilliant, mysterious, lights in the sky. 236 00:11:27,967 --> 00:11:30,767 Not entirely unrelated 237 00:11:30,767 --> 00:11:33,600 to what you and your colleagues witnessed. 238 00:11:34,467 --> 00:11:37,367 And things that were also witnessed 239 00:11:37,367 --> 00:11:39,467 by large groups 240 00:11:39,467 --> 00:11:43,567 of perfectly responsible people. 241 00:11:43,567 --> 00:11:48,300 Then we've got the 1976 report by local Ken Putnam, 242 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:51,066 who witnessed a 50 foot UFO 243 00:11:51,066 --> 00:11:55,300 fly into an alleged portal on Pine Hill Mountain. 244 00:11:56,166 --> 00:11:59,367 The US Navy sent a P3 Orion, 245 00:11:59,367 --> 00:12:02,033 a surveillance aircraft to the same mountain. 246 00:12:02,567 --> 00:12:04,100 and it ended up crashing. 247 00:12:05,967 --> 00:12:10,433 At the time, it was one of the Navy's most technologically advanced aircraft. 248 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,000 We've also got a 1979 law enforcement incident 249 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,667 where three police officers from two neighboring towns 250 00:12:19,667 --> 00:12:22,400 reported seeing the exact same lights 251 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,233 making their way over the Maine coastline. 252 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 And we've got 3000 pages 253 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,800 of recently declassified CIA documents. 254 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:37,033 This has been going on for generations and generations. 255 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:42,934 Oh wow. 256 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Given your gravity as a witness, 257 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,266 the vividness of your testimony, 258 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:53,300 the testimony of people who were with you... 259 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:57,000 The area has a very, very, 260 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,266 rich history and culture 261 00:12:59,266 --> 00:13:02,800 as much as the town of Roswell itself does. 262 00:13:04,767 --> 00:13:07,433 I feel confident, personally speaking, saying, 263 00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:10,400 you saw a UFO. 264 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,500 [exhales] 265 00:13:16,667 --> 00:13:19,266 I strongly disagree with Chrissy's assessment 266 00:13:19,266 --> 00:13:20,467 that there is no evidence. 267 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:22,400 This is one of those cases 268 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,567 where sometimes you have to throw out 269 00:13:24,567 --> 00:13:27,500 the rule book and go with history. 270 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,700 And the credible account 271 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:32,266 of not one but multiple witnesses. 272 00:13:32,266 --> 00:13:35,100 So for this case, I have to say yes. 273 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:37,266 It was a UFO that John witnessed. 274 00:13:37,266 --> 00:13:40,100 You've added to the annals of the research 275 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,767 of this very, very important topic. 276 00:13:42,767 --> 00:13:44,867 It's definitely one of the most 277 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:47,300 interesting things that's happened in my life. 278 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:49,367 [Chrissy] For sure. [John] You guys are awesome. 279 00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:52,000 The research that you put into it, it's really great. 280 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,400 -[Chrissy] That's awesome. -[Mitch] You're terrific, my man. 281 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,000 -[John] You are too. [chuckles] -[Mitch] This was great. 282 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,800 -[Mitch] Thank you. -[John] Nice to meet you, too. 283 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,367 -[John] Take care. -[Mitch] All right. Thank you, man. 284 00:13:58,367 --> 00:13:59,433 Yep. 285 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,567 For me and the people that were there that night, 286 00:14:05,567 --> 00:14:07,734 It's very real, and it happened. 287 00:14:11,066 --> 00:14:12,533 His story is unbelievable. 288 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,667 It really is unbelievable, 289 00:14:14,667 --> 00:14:16,867 -but I just don't have enough to go on. -Sure. 290 00:14:16,867 --> 00:14:19,000 [John] 3000 declassified documents 291 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,166 from the CIA, 292 00:14:20,166 --> 00:14:21,567 to me supports 293 00:14:21,567 --> 00:14:24,567 a lot of evidence that there was something. 294 00:14:24,567 --> 00:14:27,300 That is a, uh, as far as I'm concerned 295 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:28,767 an impressive witness. 296 00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:31,000 I wish I could say more to him. 297 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,200 -Of course. -You know, I wish I had more data. 298 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:39,000 I think we really made the right choice coming to Roswell. 299 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,567 Small town. 300 00:14:40,567 --> 00:14:41,934 Big stories. 301 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,767 [Mitch] So I have a question for you. 302 00:14:56,767 --> 00:14:58,166 When you encounter a witness 303 00:14:58,166 --> 00:15:02,367 who has had multiple experiences, 304 00:15:02,367 --> 00:15:04,400 does that heighten or detract 305 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,066 from the witness's credibility? 306 00:15:07,066 --> 00:15:10,867 I don't know if it detracts from the credibility, 307 00:15:10,867 --> 00:15:14,200 because we do see there's sections within the brain 308 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,967 that, for some reason, when people have encounters, 309 00:15:16,967 --> 00:15:18,767 those areas are over-enlarged. 310 00:15:18,767 --> 00:15:20,100 And finding out later on 311 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:22,300 that this is potentially hereditary. 312 00:15:26,867 --> 00:15:28,967 -[Mitch] Welcome, y'all. How's it going? -[Chrissy] Hi. 313 00:15:28,967 --> 00:15:31,367 -Chrissy, nice to meet you. -Mitch, how you doing? 314 00:15:31,367 --> 00:15:33,166 [Chrissy] Nice to meet you. 315 00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:35,567 You all, both individually and as a family 316 00:15:35,567 --> 00:15:40,567 have had some very mysterious experiences. 317 00:15:40,567 --> 00:15:42,700 Experiences can be common 318 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:45,266 or can even be hereditary among families. 319 00:15:45,266 --> 00:15:48,367 What we wanted to ask, first and foremost, 320 00:15:48,367 --> 00:15:51,467 in your own words, you briefly tell us 321 00:15:51,467 --> 00:15:53,400 what your experience has been. 322 00:15:54,166 --> 00:15:55,300 Okay, so... 323 00:16:00,667 --> 00:16:03,967 [Ava] Since I was a child I've had weird experiences, 324 00:16:03,967 --> 00:16:08,467 and I don't really talk about them because, you know, I don't want to be ridiculed. 325 00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:10,900 And you know, looked at like I'm crazy. 326 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,133 So I always kept everything to myself. 327 00:16:16,867 --> 00:16:19,500 When I was 12 years old, I looked out the window 328 00:16:20,367 --> 00:16:24,233 and I had seen this really big, saucer-like shape. 329 00:16:25,467 --> 00:16:26,433 And it had, like, 330 00:16:26,433 --> 00:16:28,700 all these different color lights on it. 331 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:32,667 The lights were like green and blue and yellow and red. 332 00:16:32,667 --> 00:16:35,600 And, I started hearing like, these voices. 333 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,033 But I didn't know where the voices were coming from. 334 00:16:39,767 --> 00:16:42,900 And then, I've seen these three beings. 335 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,467 They were putting their fingers on the window. 336 00:16:47,467 --> 00:16:50,266 And I put my three fingers on the window as well. 337 00:16:50,266 --> 00:16:53,000 And now I ran to my mother and I was like, 338 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 "Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, get the camera, get the camera." 339 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,133 And by the time we got back to the window, it was gone. 340 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:00,900 It was completely gone. 341 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:02,900 We were scared. 342 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:04,567 We were nervous. 343 00:17:04,567 --> 00:17:06,166 What if they come for us? 344 00:17:06,166 --> 00:17:07,867 It was never spoken about ever again. 345 00:17:07,867 --> 00:17:09,667 Like I don't know why we never 346 00:17:09,667 --> 00:17:11,634 talked about it, but we just never did. 347 00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:17,367 [Mitch] Let's talk about your most recent experience. 348 00:17:17,367 --> 00:17:20,066 We'd like to hear directly from you all 349 00:17:20,066 --> 00:17:22,900 what it was you encountered in the car one night. 350 00:17:26,467 --> 00:17:28,967 On September 21st 2023, 351 00:17:28,967 --> 00:17:34,266 uh, me and my kids were driving down Route 739. 352 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:37,166 And from the back of the car, I can see 353 00:17:37,166 --> 00:17:39,000 this string of lights in the sky. 354 00:17:41,166 --> 00:17:42,500 They're pointing, they're looking 355 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:44,300 and I'm trying to bend in all kinds of directions. 356 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:45,367 I'm like, what are they seeing? 357 00:17:45,367 --> 00:17:47,266 There was no edges at all, 358 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:49,400 just lights, just a string of lights. 359 00:17:49,967 --> 00:17:52,100 [Ava] It had to be at least... 360 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:54,000 [Marjorie] Yeah, but eight to ten lights. 361 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,066 We are all trying to capture this thing 362 00:17:56,066 --> 00:17:57,567 on the phone. 363 00:17:57,567 --> 00:17:59,700 [Marjorie] I'm seeing it. We're seeing it. 364 00:18:02,467 --> 00:18:04,066 And I was like, "hope somebody's getting this." 365 00:18:04,066 --> 00:18:05,767 Like, I really need this photo. 366 00:18:05,767 --> 00:18:10,000 I really need this video because nobody's ever gonna believe this. 367 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,033 [Shane] We didn't know what it was. 368 00:18:11,033 --> 00:18:13,767 It didn't look like anything we've ever seen. 369 00:18:13,767 --> 00:18:17,100 And I was like, "What the hell is that?" 370 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:19,867 We have pulled over, and I'm sticking my head 371 00:18:19,867 --> 00:18:21,900 right out the window with my phone out. 372 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:25,266 I'm being told, "record, record." I'm like, "I've got it. I'm on it." 373 00:18:25,266 --> 00:18:29,166 They were moving just very slowly across the sky. 374 00:18:29,166 --> 00:18:31,800 [Marjorie] What in the [bleep] is in the sky today? 375 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,400 I'm seeing it. We're seeing it. 376 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,767 There were a lot of lights. No blinking, 377 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,100 um, in a perfect static line, 378 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:41,166 all moving together in unison 379 00:18:41,166 --> 00:18:43,433 very slowly in its diagonal path. 380 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:45,500 [Marjorie] That's not stars. 381 00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:47,900 Cars passing. 382 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:50,934 Like, there's other stars and there's [bleep] and that. 383 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,033 -[Shane] It's moving. -[Marjorie] Yeah, it's going. 384 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,867 [Shane] It's going above us. 385 00:18:55,867 --> 00:18:58,200 And it started to just... fade out. 386 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Just fade away. 387 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,900 [Marjorie] He's disappearing. He went above us and he's [bleep] gone. 388 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:07,166 - [Marjorie] I got good footage of that [bleep] thing though. - [Ava] You got it? 389 00:19:07,166 --> 00:19:08,533 [Marjorie] I got good ass footage. 390 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,800 When we did the video analysis, 391 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,400 I have to say to you... 392 00:19:15,567 --> 00:19:19,667 As I'm videotaping the craft, I audibly ask the craft. 393 00:19:19,667 --> 00:19:21,800 Flash if you want to connect with us. 394 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,333 [Ava] On September 21st 2023, me and my kids were driving 395 00:19:31,266 --> 00:19:34,200 and from the back of the car I can see 396 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,900 this string of lights in the sky. 397 00:19:36,967 --> 00:19:39,133 I'm seeing it. We're seeing it. 398 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:44,166 There were a lot of lights, no blinking, 399 00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:46,500 um, in a perfect static line, 400 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,600 all moving together in unison 401 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,767 very slowly in its diagonal path. 402 00:19:50,767 --> 00:19:53,166 -It's moving. -Yeah, it's going. 403 00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:54,400 It's going above us. 404 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,700 It started to just... fade out. 405 00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:58,600 Just fade away. 406 00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:02,467 [Marjorie] He's disappearing. It ain't above us-- 407 00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:06,567 Why me? Why am I experiencing these things? 408 00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:08,934 What-- what do I have to offer? 409 00:20:12,367 --> 00:20:16,100 So you all have stepped up in a very public way, with your story. 410 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:19,500 What is it that you hope we can provide? 411 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:20,767 What are you looking for? 412 00:20:20,767 --> 00:20:23,166 We've seen these things, like, about so many times, 413 00:20:23,166 --> 00:20:26,066 all different types of saucers, all different types of things. 414 00:20:26,066 --> 00:20:28,767 And we just honestly want confirmation about 415 00:20:28,767 --> 00:20:31,166 whether or not these are UFOs 416 00:20:31,166 --> 00:20:35,166 -or some other, some other type of thing. -Other beings, yeah, right. 417 00:20:35,166 --> 00:20:38,266 Let me give you a sense of what we try to accomplish here. 418 00:20:38,266 --> 00:20:41,900 We have the video evidence that you have shared. 419 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:47,367 Chrissy has analyzed this material with a team of researchers, 420 00:20:47,367 --> 00:20:50,700 and the results will help me come to a decision. 421 00:20:53,166 --> 00:20:56,266 So one of the first things we do is, we look at video and photo. 422 00:20:56,266 --> 00:20:58,100 So we have cell phone video. 423 00:20:58,567 --> 00:20:59,667 Yeah. 424 00:20:59,667 --> 00:21:02,100 -[Marjorie] It's moving. -[Ava] Yeah, it's going. 425 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:03,767 -[Shane] It's going above us. -[Marjorie] Okay. 426 00:21:03,767 --> 00:21:05,600 [Ava] That's not stars. 427 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,567 [narrator] Ava and her family submitted a 45-second clip of their encounter 428 00:21:09,567 --> 00:21:14,700 that occurred on September 21st 2023 in Pennsylvania for review. 429 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:16,667 I love to have it because it gives us an idea. 430 00:21:16,667 --> 00:21:18,266 So you can say, "Hey, this is what I saw." 431 00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:21,700 So other people can relate to see if they've seen the same thing. 432 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:25,066 So when we did the video analysis, 433 00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:26,700 we determined that... 434 00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:31,233 It wasn't faked or it wasn't manipulated in any way. 435 00:21:31,567 --> 00:21:32,800 Uh-hm. 436 00:21:33,367 --> 00:21:35,600 And then we get into date, time and location. 437 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,200 -And we have that, right? -Yeah. 438 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,867 So we do cross analysis of databases, right? 439 00:21:39,867 --> 00:21:43,233 To see if there is any other sightings in that region. 440 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:45,734 And we found out... 441 00:21:46,767 --> 00:21:49,800 that there was multiple sightings 442 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,667 within that region. 443 00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:55,166 [narrator] On the same night that Ava and her family witnessed the lights, 444 00:21:55,166 --> 00:21:57,900 Chrissy's team found 24 similar reports 445 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:01,000 recorded by other witnesses in the area. 446 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,600 -[man 1] Holy cow. -[man 2] What the hell is it? 447 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,367 So let me ask you one question. 448 00:22:06,367 --> 00:22:08,867 Let's go back to what you saw. 449 00:22:08,867 --> 00:22:11,200 How many lights did you see in a row? 450 00:22:11,767 --> 00:22:12,900 [Marjorie] Six to 12. 451 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:14,467 -[Ava] I'd say about 12. - [Chrissy] You said 6. 452 00:22:14,467 --> 00:22:16,166 -I said eight to ten. -Eight to ten? 453 00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:18,100 -Yeah. -Yeah, I'd say 12. It was a lot. 454 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:19,266 Yeah. 455 00:22:19,266 --> 00:22:21,200 So we did a freeze frame of your video. 456 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,834 [mysterious music playing] 457 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:27,700 We saw that it was 22 lights, 458 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:29,000 -Twenty-two? -What? 459 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:32,000 [suspenseful music playing] 460 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,400 When we freeze framed and saw those 22 string of lights, 461 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,367 we looked at NORAD data to see if we could find anything 462 00:22:39,367 --> 00:22:42,867 that might potentially correlate with what you saw. 463 00:22:42,867 --> 00:22:44,634 Hm. Okay. 464 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,700 [suspenseful music playing] 465 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,700 I'm gonna show you a few photos. 466 00:22:56,767 --> 00:22:58,867 Does this look like what you saw? 467 00:22:58,867 --> 00:23:00,700 [suspenseful music playing] 468 00:23:02,767 --> 00:23:05,533 Yeah, it looks very similar to that. 469 00:23:07,367 --> 00:23:08,567 And it was brighter. 470 00:23:08,567 --> 00:23:10,233 But it looks very similar. 471 00:23:12,767 --> 00:23:14,400 [Chrissy] What about this one? 472 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,567 -[Shawn] Yeah, that's-- That's definitely it. -[Ava] That was it. 473 00:23:19,567 --> 00:23:22,000 It looks just like that, exactly like that. 474 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:24,734 So here's the thing. 475 00:23:24,734 --> 00:23:27,533 When we looked at NORAD tracking 476 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,200 on September 19th, 477 00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:34,033 two days before your family sighting, 478 00:23:35,266 --> 00:23:36,600 we did see something. 479 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,634 [intense music playing] 480 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,333 Starlink had a launch. 481 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,166 It's called Group 6-17. 482 00:23:47,166 --> 00:23:49,200 [suspenseful music playing] 483 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,867 [narrator] Starlink is an Internet satellite 484 00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:57,700 developed by Elon Musk's SpaceX. 485 00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:00,367 It orbits the Earth in a synchronized formation. 486 00:24:00,367 --> 00:24:03,600 Often appearing as a linked chain of lights in the sky. 487 00:24:04,967 --> 00:24:09,266 Though the 6-17 launch occurred two days before Ava's sighting, 488 00:24:09,266 --> 00:24:13,066 the satellite string was visible for nearly ten days. 489 00:24:13,066 --> 00:24:15,700 [suspenseful music playing] 490 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:19,133 You're not the only person that noticed this sighting. 491 00:24:20,867 --> 00:24:25,133 As witnesses, as far as I'm concerned, you all are impeccable. 492 00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:28,900 But the data is definitive. 493 00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,634 You did not witness a UFO. 494 00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:38,367 Oh, man. [sighs] 495 00:24:38,367 --> 00:24:40,667 It kind of sucks because I was kind of hoping, you know... 496 00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:43,266 -It sucks, really. -...it was really something, you know? 497 00:24:43,266 --> 00:24:45,266 -[Chrissy] What we call that is an IFO. -[Ava] Yeah. 498 00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:47,166 - [Chrissy] You've identified a flying object. - [Ava] Yeah. 499 00:24:47,166 --> 00:24:49,567 [Chrissy] Sometimes we want an identified flying object 500 00:24:49,567 --> 00:24:52,266 for the fact that knowing that you can identify it 501 00:24:52,266 --> 00:24:53,800 helps us to be able to figure out 502 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,266 -ones that we can't identify. -[Mitch] Exactly. 503 00:24:56,266 --> 00:24:59,266 We can't thank you guys enough for being public, 504 00:24:59,266 --> 00:25:00,800 stepping up with this story. 505 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,900 I know you've gotten some answers today that are mundane. 506 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:08,333 But the point is to keep searching, and build a record. 507 00:25:13,166 --> 00:25:15,100 It's there. It sucks. 508 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,367 It sucks that it wasn't what I wanted it to be. 509 00:25:17,367 --> 00:25:19,500 -Bye, bye. -Safe travels. 510 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:24,100 It clears up one thing, but... 511 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,600 I still have all the rest of the UFOs 512 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200 that I've seen in my life to, you know, 513 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,967 -really try to figure out-- -Right, this one may have been a satellite, 514 00:25:31,967 --> 00:25:34,667 but who's to say what we've seen before was or was not? 515 00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:36,400 They've had other experiences. 516 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,166 And, um, checking one box doesn't mean checking all of them. 517 00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:41,600 We have to remember that. 518 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,233 [calm music playing] 519 00:25:48,467 --> 00:25:50,934 [techno music playing] 520 00:26:04,066 --> 00:26:05,567 Well, hello, my man. 521 00:26:05,567 --> 00:26:06,867 -Have a seat, please. -Yeah. 522 00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:07,867 Thank you for meeting with me. 523 00:26:07,867 --> 00:26:09,700 -Thanks for being here, man. -Yeah, of course. 524 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,000 Uh, Where-- Where is home? Where are you from? 525 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,867 Uh, now, Cottonwood, Arizona, just right outside of Sedona. 526 00:26:15,867 --> 00:26:21,767 Please, tell us the story of your experience in your own terms. 527 00:26:21,767 --> 00:26:23,133 Yeah, absolutely. 528 00:26:23,133 --> 00:26:25,467 Uh, it's good to have someone to talk about it with, to be honest. 529 00:26:25,467 --> 00:26:27,700 -[Mitch] That's what we're here for. -Yeah. 530 00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:30,000 [mysterious music playing] 531 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,867 My name is Juergen Hess. 532 00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:34,400 And I think that aliens saved my life. 533 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,667 [upbeat music playing] 534 00:26:37,667 --> 00:26:40,266 [Juergen] I was giving a friend of mine a ride home one night. 535 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:44,600 And we were going 80 miles an hour in an SUV in the fast lane. 536 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,166 She said something to me and I looked at her, answered her, 537 00:26:49,166 --> 00:26:52,900 and when I looked back, all the cars in front of us had come to a stop. 538 00:26:53,767 --> 00:26:55,166 I shouted at her, 539 00:26:55,166 --> 00:26:56,600 "We're gonna hit." 540 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,367 I hit my foot on the brakes, the tires locked up, 541 00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:03,567 and the last thing I did was crank the steering wheel to the side and ducked. 542 00:27:03,567 --> 00:27:05,300 And there was a flash of light. 543 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,100 I was videotaping one night, 544 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,133 and I audibly asked the craft. 545 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,066 [intense music playing] 546 00:27:17,066 --> 00:27:19,200 It wasn't blinking until I asked the question. 547 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,433 [suspenseful music playing] 548 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,433 I'm not making anything up. 549 00:27:25,867 --> 00:27:27,367 All the cars in front of us had come to a stop. 550 00:27:27,367 --> 00:27:30,266 I shouted at her, "We're gonna hit." 551 00:27:30,266 --> 00:27:33,100 I hit my foot on the brakes, the tires locked up, 552 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,967 and the last thing I did was, 553 00:27:34,967 --> 00:27:37,266 crank the steering wheel to the side and ducked. 554 00:27:37,266 --> 00:27:39,033 And there was a flash of light. 555 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,133 [somber music playing] 556 00:27:45,166 --> 00:27:48,567 And the next thing we know, we're sitting upright, 557 00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:51,066 driving 80 miles an hour still, 558 00:27:51,066 --> 00:27:54,100 now in the carpool lane, with all those cars behind us. 559 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,000 [pensive music playing] 560 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,767 It was impossible. 561 00:27:59,767 --> 00:28:02,400 It was something I couldn't understand. 562 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000 It wasn't weird enough to make me think, "Oh! It's aliens!" 563 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,667 [chuckles] Like, you know? 564 00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:09,667 But the bizarre thing was that, 565 00:28:09,667 --> 00:28:12,834 more things kept happening to me that I couldn't explain. 566 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,967 And then there was this one night. 567 00:28:15,967 --> 00:28:18,000 [suspenseful music playing] 568 00:28:19,567 --> 00:28:22,600 I woke up in an extreme panic. 569 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,667 [gasps] 570 00:28:24,667 --> 00:28:29,100 And the sheet got pulled up over my head 571 00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:31,900 and back tight. 572 00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:34,433 So much so, that it pulled my forehead back. 573 00:28:35,266 --> 00:28:37,400 My instant reaction was my hands reached up, 574 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,600 grabbed it and pulled it down. 575 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,967 And when that happened, I froze. 576 00:28:40,967 --> 00:28:42,900 And I couldn't move any part of my body. 577 00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,767 I couldn't move my eyeballs. Nothing. 578 00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:49,867 And I've heard that expression "frozen with fear" before, 579 00:28:49,867 --> 00:28:52,967 and that's the only way I could describe it at the time. 580 00:28:52,967 --> 00:28:55,133 I was literally frozen in fear. 581 00:28:56,066 --> 00:28:58,000 [eerie music playing] 582 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,100 At that point, I realized there's something more 583 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,233 going on than we understand. 584 00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:07,000 I knew there was something in my room that night. 585 00:29:09,166 --> 00:29:11,567 But I had nothing to go on for myself. 586 00:29:11,567 --> 00:29:15,734 You know, I can't just personally decide whether or not it's aliens. 587 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:21,900 I needed to be able to have an encounter or something to support that. 588 00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:24,700 And you know, that's when I moved to Sedona. 589 00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:31,867 With the UFO phenomena in the Sedona area, 590 00:29:31,867 --> 00:29:35,467 you can see so much activity on a regular basis 591 00:29:35,467 --> 00:29:39,133 that I went there specifically to try to see UFOs, 592 00:29:40,667 --> 00:29:44,900 [narrator] The history of Sedona's association with UFOs dates back decades, 593 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,700 with reports of mysterious lights 594 00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:48,467 and unidentified flying objects 595 00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:50,867 frequently documented in the region. 596 00:29:50,867 --> 00:29:54,767 Sedona's skies continue to fuel fascination and speculation 597 00:29:54,767 --> 00:29:57,700 about the existence of extraterrestrial life. 598 00:30:00,567 --> 00:30:03,033 I packed up everything that I could fit in my car. 599 00:30:03,967 --> 00:30:06,634 And I moved out there from Los Angeles. 600 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,700 That's when it really escalated, was at that point. 601 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,900 When you're there, it feels very different. 602 00:30:22,467 --> 00:30:27,533 I was going out and starting to capture these unidentified craft. 603 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,567 And one of the things I noticed is, 604 00:30:32,567 --> 00:30:34,900 a lot of the craft have the ability... 605 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,767 ...to flash a really bright light. 606 00:30:39,767 --> 00:30:42,634 I mean, to where it's the brightest thing in the sky when it flashes. 607 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,100 'Cause there's no handbook on this kind of research 608 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,767 or these type of encounters. 609 00:30:49,767 --> 00:30:51,500 So it's a lot of hit and miss. 610 00:30:54,066 --> 00:30:56,867 January 2nd 2024. 611 00:30:56,867 --> 00:30:59,800 It was about 6:55 in the winter. 612 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:07,634 It was such an unexplainable experience. 613 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,400 I was videotaping one night. 614 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,900 So I'm taping a really dim craft. 615 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,800 I audibly asked the craft. 616 00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:25,300 [suspenseful music playing] 617 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,900 And sure enough, the craft flashes so bright, 618 00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:33,900 you can-- I mean, it becomes the brightest 619 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,600 spot of light in the sky for a moment. 620 00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:38,734 And you wouldn't think 621 00:31:38,734 --> 00:31:42,066 you could just ask a question and get an answer. 622 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:45,166 [Juergen] Flash if you want to connect with us. 623 00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:48,000 So we need to get over the whole "Is it real or is it not" thing. 624 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:51,767 They're so real that I can take people 625 00:31:51,767 --> 00:31:54,133 and show them to them any night there's not clouds. 626 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,500 This phenomena lets us have evidence. 627 00:32:01,767 --> 00:32:03,767 Obviously, you're very committed to this experience. 628 00:32:03,767 --> 00:32:06,100 -You relocated your home. -Yep. 629 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,667 Uh, to dive deeper into this phenomenon. 630 00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:11,467 And you've also submitted evidence. 631 00:32:11,467 --> 00:32:13,567 -In this case, video evidence. -Yes. 632 00:32:13,567 --> 00:32:16,700 [narrator] Juergen Hess submitted a 14-second long video 633 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:20,200 that he recorded on January 2nd, 2024 634 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,367 that shows a light moving across the sky 635 00:32:23,367 --> 00:32:26,433 that appears to flash in response to his question. 636 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,567 [Mitch] Chrissy and her colleagues have analyzed video evidence. 637 00:32:34,567 --> 00:32:36,500 -Right. -And I want to turn it over to her. 638 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,300 -It'd be great if we could hear-- -I would love to hear that. 639 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,667 So one of the first things we did was look at flight data 640 00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:44,300 for that date, and time, and location. 641 00:32:45,166 --> 00:32:49,166 And it showed there was no air traffic 642 00:32:49,166 --> 00:32:51,600 over the location of where you had your sighting. 643 00:32:53,967 --> 00:32:55,834 And then we looked at satellite data. 644 00:32:58,166 --> 00:32:59,734 The satellite data showed 645 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,433 no visible satellites. 646 00:33:07,467 --> 00:33:10,400 We had two different experts look at this. 647 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,900 And... 648 00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,367 One of our analysts was curious to see 649 00:33:15,367 --> 00:33:18,266 if it potentially would be the International Space Station. 650 00:33:18,266 --> 00:33:20,667 Did you ever think that it possibly could be? 651 00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:23,166 Uh, it's always on my mind. 652 00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:26,600 I have seen the ISS before in person. 653 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,000 Um, it goes in a straight line, moves at the same speed. 654 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,200 It is pretty bright. 655 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,500 Uh, you do notice it. 656 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,400 Um, I've never seen it reply to a question, though. 657 00:33:35,867 --> 00:33:37,233 We did find, though, 658 00:33:38,166 --> 00:33:39,900 the International Space Station 659 00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:43,900 was over Europe at that point in time. 660 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,767 Oh! Okay, good. Yeah. 661 00:33:48,767 --> 00:33:52,400 One of our other analysts did come to us and say that... 662 00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:58,066 They thought that it could be a rocket booster 663 00:33:58,066 --> 00:33:59,934 that was entering the atmosphere. 664 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,767 I'm not-- I mean, it was going upwards. 665 00:34:06,767 --> 00:34:11,100 So I'm not sure how a rocket falling goes up? 666 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,100 [narrator] Rocket boosters help propel rockets into orbit 667 00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,000 and then typically fall back into the Earth's atmosphere, 668 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,900 where they eventually incinerate. 669 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,400 However, as debris such as a rocket booster falls, 670 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,767 it rotates and reflects the sun's light, 671 00:34:25,767 --> 00:34:27,133 creating a blinking pattern. 672 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:30,934 This pattern will continue as the debris moves across the sky. 673 00:34:32,567 --> 00:34:34,867 We noticed, though, with the spinning, 674 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,700 light might catch off it, light might reflect off it. 675 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,500 So that potentially could be something 676 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,967 that we're seeing from that blinking indication. 677 00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:43,500 [somber music playing] 678 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,867 For me, that is an almost incomprehensible 679 00:34:48,867 --> 00:34:51,700 amount of coincidence. 680 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,967 That a piece of debris 681 00:34:54,967 --> 00:34:59,033 could only make flashes that are so bright 682 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,100 when it's being asked questions. 683 00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:03,900 I'd have to have it explained to me in a more-- 684 00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:06,667 In a way that made a little more sense as to how it could do that. 685 00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:09,233 [intense music playing] 686 00:35:13,667 --> 00:35:16,467 When I look at the analysis and the report, 687 00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:18,900 and I look at the evidence and I look at the video, 688 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,133 I have to say that... 689 00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:27,400 [Morse code beeping] 690 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,700 [reporter 1] Headline edition, July 8th 1947. 691 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:33,233 It was nicely hushed up. 692 00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:35,667 [reporter 2] Army Air Force officers reported 693 00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:38,200 that one of the strange disks have been found and inspected 694 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,467 sometime last week. 695 00:35:40,467 --> 00:35:43,233 The disc landed at a ranch in Corona, New Mexico. 696 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,900 That's a goddamn spaceship. 697 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:48,367 You get the hell out of here and you didn't see anything, 698 00:35:48,367 --> 00:35:49,734 and you don't talk to anybody. 699 00:35:49,734 --> 00:35:52,500 [reporter 2] And the rancher turned it over to the Air Force. 700 00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,166 The craft had burst open. 701 00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:57,467 But it looked like unrolled tin foil 702 00:35:57,467 --> 00:35:59,900 that these other three creatures were laying. 703 00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:02,300 [reporter 2] He says that it was "so battered." 704 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:05,567 And he described it as being made of some sort of tin foil. 705 00:36:05,567 --> 00:36:08,066 When we got up to it, 706 00:36:08,066 --> 00:36:11,467 there were four bodies there, not human. 707 00:36:11,467 --> 00:36:13,266 In fact, he said, the skin would look like 708 00:36:13,266 --> 00:36:16,166 they could almost see through it, almost transparent. 709 00:36:16,166 --> 00:36:18,600 [reporter 2] The Army may be getting to the bottom of all this talk 710 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,600 about the so-called flying saucer. 711 00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:28,967 We noticed with the spinning, 712 00:36:28,967 --> 00:36:30,667 light might reflect off it. 713 00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:32,367 So that potentially could be something 714 00:36:32,367 --> 00:36:34,900 that we're seeing from that blinking indication. 715 00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:39,600 That is an almost incomprehensible 716 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,400 amount of coincidence. 717 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,600 That a piece of debris 718 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,800 could only make flashes that are so bright 719 00:36:50,467 --> 00:36:51,934 when it's being asked questions. 720 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,567 I'd have to have it explained to me in a more-- 721 00:36:54,567 --> 00:36:57,367 In a way that made a little more sense as to how it could do that. 722 00:36:57,367 --> 00:36:59,834 [intense music playing] 723 00:37:02,767 --> 00:37:05,467 How long did you see the object blinking for? 724 00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:08,233 Well, it wasn't blinking until I asked the question. 725 00:37:12,467 --> 00:37:16,266 So I was watching the object for about 30 seconds. 726 00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:17,033 Before answering the question, 727 00:37:17,033 --> 00:37:19,033 and it had not made any blinks. 728 00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:25,233 [suspenseful music playing] 729 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,400 Just to confirm that one blink was the only type of flash, 730 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,266 or blink that happened in that one video. 731 00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:36,600 Correct. That's the only flash that craft made. Yep. 732 00:37:41,767 --> 00:37:43,667 [narrator] In the video Juergen submitted, 733 00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:47,000 the object blinks only once before disappearing, 734 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,867 ruling out the space debris theory. 735 00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:51,166 [suspenseful music playing] 736 00:37:51,166 --> 00:37:52,700 Did the object ever change direction, 737 00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,467 or did it stay in a straight line? 738 00:37:54,467 --> 00:37:57,133 Um, that object traveled in a straight line. 739 00:37:59,567 --> 00:38:01,367 -Did it keep going, though? -It did. 740 00:38:01,367 --> 00:38:03,100 [stammers] It kept going. 741 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,767 That one went in a straight line, finally disappeared 742 00:38:05,767 --> 00:38:08,200 -when it got to about the top of the sky. -Okay. 743 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,367 Uh, we wa-- I watched it kind of, 744 00:38:10,367 --> 00:38:12,700 maybe ten degrees off the horizon. 745 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,700 How long did you observe it traveling for? 746 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:23,600 It covered that amount in maybe a minute, that night? 747 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,166 Yeah. I'd say they move at different speeds. 748 00:38:26,166 --> 00:38:27,700 Yeah, they're not all the same. 749 00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:30,100 I've seen some going so slow. 750 00:38:31,066 --> 00:38:33,300 [suspenseful music playing] 751 00:38:36,066 --> 00:38:37,734 I'm not making anything up. 752 00:38:43,467 --> 00:38:46,367 So when I'm looking at this information 753 00:38:46,367 --> 00:38:48,333 and hearing your testimony, 754 00:38:50,367 --> 00:38:52,800 and I look at the evidence and I look at the video. 755 00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,333 I have to say that... 756 00:38:58,967 --> 00:39:01,166 I just don't have enough data to go over here 757 00:39:01,166 --> 00:39:04,300 and to be able to fully give up a proper analysis. 758 00:39:04,767 --> 00:39:06,767 Right. 759 00:39:06,767 --> 00:39:10,266 When I first walked in here, to be 100 percent frank with you, 760 00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:13,867 I thought this is going to be a no for me. 761 00:39:13,867 --> 00:39:18,300 But I think your credibility as a witness ranks very, very high. 762 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,867 Um, Chrissy's analysis 763 00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:26,834 found no other objects at that time. 764 00:39:27,767 --> 00:39:30,800 There was no identifiable air traffic. 765 00:39:32,767 --> 00:39:35,900 We have the space debris thesis, 766 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:39,500 but that's very general and it doesn't really apply 767 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:43,567 because the object didn't blink over and over again, 768 00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:46,800 as one might expect from space debris. 769 00:39:47,767 --> 00:39:48,900 I believe... 770 00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,634 [suspenseful music playing] 771 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,834 You witnessed the UFO. 772 00:39:57,567 --> 00:39:59,000 I believe your account 773 00:39:59,767 --> 00:40:02,000 I definitely appreciate that. Thanks. 774 00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,333 It's really nice to... 775 00:40:05,367 --> 00:40:08,100 have somebody else be able to take a look 776 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,767 at what I've been saying and doing 777 00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:12,166 and actually say he's not lying 778 00:40:12,166 --> 00:40:13,967 because I'm not trying to trick anyone. 779 00:40:13,967 --> 00:40:16,600 It's-- There's so many people interested in this subject, 780 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,066 and so confused about it. 781 00:40:18,066 --> 00:40:21,567 And I feel like if the phenomena is that regular here, 782 00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,266 and I'm able to capture it, 783 00:40:23,266 --> 00:40:24,667 I would like to be able to share it 784 00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:27,400 so people don't get so afraid of it, 785 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,700 and can realize it's there and probably been there 786 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:31,967 a long, long time, you know? 787 00:40:31,967 --> 00:40:32,934 -Thank you so much. -Pleasure. 788 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,567 Before going full on into this investigation, 789 00:40:37,567 --> 00:40:38,967 I had a great job I loved, 790 00:40:38,967 --> 00:40:41,467 but I had to sacrifice everything I knew, 791 00:40:41,467 --> 00:40:44,066 everything I was familiar with and be alone. 792 00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:47,567 I am finally on the right path and doing what I should be doing. 793 00:40:47,567 --> 00:40:49,467 I did see a UFO, 794 00:40:49,467 --> 00:40:52,033 and now I'm going to go out and see some more. 795 00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:55,300 [suspenseful music playing] 796 00:40:57,266 --> 00:41:00,467 [people speaking] 797 00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:02,266 I could see, like, the shape of it. 798 00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:04,400 It was your classic saucer. 799 00:41:06,467 --> 00:41:10,100 The car's surrounded by this white, blue light. 800 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,900 It felt like it was moving through me. 801 00:41:17,166 --> 00:41:19,066 [woman] I was on the train. 802 00:41:19,066 --> 00:41:21,100 Took out my iPhone and I take a shot. 803 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,867 I look at the picture and I realize 804 00:41:22,867 --> 00:41:25,500 that I have that amazing photo. 805 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:28,166 I've never shown it to anyone before. 65642

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