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[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
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MAN 1: You gotta understand
that this was 1976.
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James Brown, Stravinsky,
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Jimi Hendrix, Elvis Presley,
Frank Sinatra,
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all of these people were making
music at the same time.
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Everybody wore it as a badge,
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it was a war crime to be different,
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musicians owned the music business,
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MAN 2: This guy approaches me.
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Then he said, "By the way,
I want to introduce myself."
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"My name is
John Francis Pastorius III.
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I'm the greatest bass player
in the world."
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And I said,
"Get the fuck out of here."
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MAN 3: I'm saying to myself,
"Well, I'm might be selling
this little white kid.
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I'm gonna have to show him
what to play and everything.
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I have to tell him that,
you know.
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I... The only thing I wanted
to say was, "Slow down, man."
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[LAUGHS]
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MAN 4: He could play Fields.
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Blues Fields, that people
hadn't played in 30 years.
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MAN 5: Good Lord, no one was
fucking with John Francis Pastorius III.
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You kidding me?
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You know, many come and few
are chosen. He just had that.
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WOMAN: He had a mystical face.
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You know, contact with the great mind,
the divine mind,
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that permeates us all.
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MAN 6: We were all like,
"Man, Jaco!"
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And you know, it was like
going to a game
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and you're rootin' for,
you know, Michael Jordan.
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MAN 7: There were people who broke
the bones in their thumbs
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so that they could bend their
thumbs back like Jaco could.
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MAN 1: Oh, it's just
the sound of it.
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MAN 2: The sound? I said,
"What the fuck is that?"
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MAN 8: That's a bass player
doing that.
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MAN 5: And not in your lifetime are
you gonna find another one like that.
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[JAZZ MUSIC CONTINUES]
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MAN 3: Good evening.
Welcome to Oakland Park,
Florida, where I grew up.
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I had the fortunate experience
of growing up with everybody
that played music.
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I know where I stole every note.
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And I was raised by the best
musicians in the world.
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Thank you, Jesus and God.
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[WHISTLE BLOWS]
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MAN: Had to be '83 or '84...
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How do you feel today, Jaco?
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- Okay, Jerry.
- All right.
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You know, a lot has
been said about you.
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But the main thing is that people
recognise the fact
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that you're able to play
with real sincerity,
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every style of music.
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Not only every style, but you can
play all parts of a given piece
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at the same time, on this one
instrument, the bass.
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Now, because of this, a lot of
people have gone crazy
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trying to duplicate what you do.
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People who have become great fans
of the bass
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and given it quite a bit of attention.
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How do you, uh, feel about that?
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- Give me a gig, you know.
- [BOTH LAUGH]
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[PLAYS A CHORD]
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He said, "Well, heck,
you know, give me a gig."
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And ironically,
at that particular point,
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he couldn't get...
He couldn't get a gig.
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What drove you to this point?
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It was all over him.
You could see it,
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that he was a man who had trouble.
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But getting it out
was, was very important.
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Even, you know,
in the shape that he was in.
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[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
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It wasn't just notes.
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It had feeling,
it had meaning to it,
it had character.
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You can't really teach that,
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This is stuff that he learned to
play when he was in his heart.
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[THUNDER RUMBLING]
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[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
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[CROWD CHEERING
AND APPLAUDING]
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ROBERT: Jaco, four letters.
Who is this guy?
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And once you actually
heard him play,
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you know, it was like
getting slapped in the face,
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you know, just bam!
Wow!
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FLEA: Everything changed
when he started playing,
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it was never the same again,
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he shredded everything
that came before him
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and it will never be done again.
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He just changed the rules
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of what's possible on the bass
and what can be done.
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That, that dude was the greatest,
you know.
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I mean, we all say
that he's our Hendrix.
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[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
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[CONTINUE CHEERING]
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[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]
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JERRY: Remarkable talent.
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The delivery system was that,
yeah, the chops were there,
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but the support he needed
was pulled away.
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For whatever reason.
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He was already an artist,
you see,
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and being an artist,
it's hard to, you know,
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it's hard to go back.
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[ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYING]
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JACO: I grew up in Florida, where
there was no real musical prejudice.
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There was all sorts of music.
Everything from Cuban music
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to symphonic music, everything.
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Like, everything
you wanted to hear, you could hear it.
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And everything was here.
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I really wasn't influenced
that much by bass players.
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To tell you the truth,
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I didn't even know who the bass
players were most of the time.
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The main thing was just the music itself.
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Whatever was like hip then,
that's what I was checking out.
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Mostly, like, all 45s.
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[PLEASE DON'T LOVE ME PLAYING]
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* Please don't love me
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* And please don't step on toes
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* It's not too smart
To walk on hearts
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* So, baby, please go slow...
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We moved to Florida
in around '58, '59.
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There was never a bad record
in our house.
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Nat King Cole, Tony Bennett,
all the big bands.
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That was all I would listen to.
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* But, baby, please go slow
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* And don't be so dark
I'm serious
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* You could learn to fly...
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Jaco used to come up and watch us.
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Believe it or not, we're working
in Charlie Johnson's Crab House
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and his mother brought him
in for dinner.
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And I got Jaco up on the bandstand
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sat him on the piano.
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He sang the whole
Come Fly With Me album.
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Sinatra album.
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That is the first time
that I ever thought,
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"Man, like, this guy
is gonna be something else."
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He just sat there like nothing
and sang the whole album.
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- [BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
- [APPLAUSE]
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Jaco used to go to bed at night
with little transistor radios.
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He would listen to Cuba.
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He would get Cuba on that radio.
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- [CUBAN MUSIC PLAYING]
- [PEOPLE CHATTERING]
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He was obsessed
with good music.
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He served papers.
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He had 250 papers a day.
In the off season.
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He was a worker.
He was a worker.
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So one day he went out
and bought a full set of drums.
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All the money he saved.
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[CUBAN MUSIC CONTINUES]
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Jaco was born
John Francis Pastorius III,
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but my mom didn't
want to call him John
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'cause that was,
you know, my grandfather.
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And it wasn't
going to be Jack.
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And she says she came up
with Jaco.
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My mom had a really
horrific childhood.
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Her mother took everything that was
wrong in her life, out on my mom.
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She was the middle
of nine children.
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My mom wanted to be
the homemaker, you know,
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She wanted to take care
of somebody.
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My dad did not want
to be taken care of.
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They would go out to dinner
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and everybody wanted
to buy Jack a drink.
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He was an entertainer.
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And so, it became pretty evident
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when we moved to South Florida
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that we were gonna live with my mom
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and my dad was gonna float around.
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[ENGINE REVVING]
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My dad, you know, sent money.
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A couple of times where it lapsed.
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Clothes got passed down
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and you know, I can remember, you
know, pancakes and Kool-Aid for dinner.
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You know, it was life with mom.
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[DRUMSTICKS CLACKING]
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[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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Las Olas Brass was based on,
you know, the Tijuana Brass,
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Herb Alpert's thing.
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Soul tunes and anything Motown.
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But back then, Florida was,
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South Florida was
a cracker town, man.
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You got the nice white side
over here, on the east,
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and to the west was
what you now call the hood.
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We would go ride our bicycles
over into, you know, the hood.
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And I remember,
we used to sit on sacks.
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[MUSIC CONTINUES]
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[DOG BARKING]
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BOB: In the neighborhood there was
this club... There it is.
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You know, it was like, two houses
put together. And a fence around it.
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And everyone's howling in the street.
[HOWLS]
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You know, they got
a couple of neon signs.
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It's like a makeshift night club
in the middle of this neighborhood.
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It was wild, you know.
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And I'm thinkin', "Okay,
you know, I don't wanna"
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act like I'm frightened
or concerned about this."
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We're kids, you know.
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But he says, "Park there."
He directs me to park
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over weeds, in this field.
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And he goes, "Listen, man, I'm gonna
get ready to play and be cool."
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[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
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This place was wild.
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It's a total black club, of course,
and he's already got this like,
jive thing,
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"Hey, baby, what's happening?"
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And you know, it's, "Oh, hey, Jaco."
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It's like he practiced with the band,
you know.
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I mean, he knew the tunes.
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Jaco was looking for
the best musicians,
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searching out the hottest cats.
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He loved guys like Little Beaver,
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Frank Williams and The Rocketeers.
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These guys aren't on records
on the stores,
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they're been played
on black stations only.
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Like on WRBD Radio,
it was a black station.
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By the way, Jaco got
three dollars that night.
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Three dollars.
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[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]
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JACO: That was it.
I just started that simple.
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I just went and bought a bass
and I was working at night,
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just making like
I could play it, you know.
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R&B or maybe some rock 'n' roll
or whatever.
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Just to get some work,
you know.
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Have some fun.
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And I had no ambition
whatsoever in life, at all,
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except for just, um, play tonight.
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That's it. I'm gonna go play tonight
over at this club, you know.
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[ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC PLAYING]
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[ENGINE REVVING]
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* Can't Turn You Loose...
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I love, rot gut, stomp, kick,
blues, rhythmic blues.
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Over the years, I was know as
the king of Blue Eyed Soul.
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See, up to then people toured,
that's what you did,
you toured year round.
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I toured 48 to 50 weeks
a year for 25 years.
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And if you walk off with any energy
left then you didn't give your all.
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I mean, you had to be the best
amongst the most exciting,
the baddest that ever lived.
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It was hell on any musician.
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They just didn't believe when you
come into band that you could cut it.
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Because they believed they were
the baddest kickers in the world.
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They could chew
a little kid like Jaco up.
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And he comes in
to audition, of course,
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the band put charts in front of him
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from what I gather,
he didn't read much at all.
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All that mattered to me
was can he play a field.
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I just give him a chord and say
"I'm gonna count to four,
we're gonna play a blues."
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Play some lead blues right now.
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* 'Cause the old folks
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* The old folks
Keep on dying, yeah... *
240
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He was straight,
he could play fields, blues fields,
241
00:16:08,543 --> 00:16:11,012
that people hadn't played
in thirty years.
242
00:16:11,046 --> 00:16:13,414
If he heard it one time,
he could play it authentically,
243
00:16:13,448 --> 00:16:16,351
but not only where the notes right,
the field was right.
244
00:16:16,384 --> 00:16:18,353
And that was the one thing
that impressed me.
245
00:16:18,386 --> 00:16:20,521
I knew it, I knew somebody in
the band gonna teach him to read.
246
00:16:23,324 --> 00:16:27,262
RANDY: Jaco had two pairs of
corduroy jeans and three t-shirts
247
00:16:27,295 --> 00:16:31,166
and everything he owned fit
in his Fender bass case.
248
00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:36,537
The tux was way to big for Jaco
so he left all his clothes on
249
00:16:36,571 --> 00:16:38,773
and put the tux on over it so he's got
250
00:16:38,806 --> 00:16:41,342
two layers of clothes
to make his tux fit
251
00:16:41,376 --> 00:16:43,078
[LAUGHING]
252
00:16:43,111 --> 00:16:46,147
He kept all his money
and cash and put it in his sock
253
00:16:46,181 --> 00:16:48,149
and he put it in his
Fender bass case.
254
00:16:48,483 --> 00:16:51,186
And uh,
255
00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:53,788
he spent very little money.
256
00:16:53,821 --> 00:16:56,657
If we ate in a restaurant,
he ordered the cheapest thing
on the menu.
257
00:16:56,691 --> 00:17:00,195
Usually a hot dog.
That's what he ate.
258
00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:03,698
Put the rest of the money in his
sock, kept it, and sent it home.
259
00:17:03,731 --> 00:17:06,734
He was, he was a great road father.
260
00:17:08,236 --> 00:17:09,737
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
261
00:17:13,441 --> 00:17:15,410
[MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING]
262
00:17:35,596 --> 00:17:38,466
I was instantly
comfortable with him.
263
00:17:40,735 --> 00:17:43,304
You know, he had
that kinda power over people.
264
00:17:43,338 --> 00:17:44,305
Instant charm.
265
00:17:47,908 --> 00:17:50,245
He was a junior,
I was a sophomore.
266
00:17:50,278 --> 00:17:52,380
And he and I just sat
on a beach bench
267
00:17:52,413 --> 00:17:54,449
and just talked
for a couple of hours.
268
00:17:57,852 --> 00:18:01,889
Both our fathers were Jazz musicians,
269
00:18:01,922 --> 00:18:05,860
both our families had broken up,
the fathers drank to much,
270
00:18:05,893 --> 00:18:08,496
you know, I, I didn't have
to put on any errors.
271
00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:19,440
He had it figured out mathematically.
272
00:18:19,474 --> 00:18:22,177
That when I was a senior
in high school,
273
00:18:22,210 --> 00:18:24,779
"You know what, I think it's time
for us to have a baby."
274
00:18:29,817 --> 00:18:31,852
He had places to go.
275
00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:47,402
GREGORY: When Mary was born.
276
00:18:47,435 --> 00:18:50,871
The day she was born,
Joc and I went to the hospital
277
00:18:50,905 --> 00:18:53,241
and where looking at her
through the glass.
278
00:18:53,274 --> 00:18:55,476
She's in there in a bassinet.
279
00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:58,313
Jaco looks at me and goes, "Gregory",
280
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I got to do something on that electric
bass that's never been done before."
281
00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:04,852
And he pointed at Mary.
282
00:19:04,885 --> 00:19:07,888
I was like, "Well, okay I get it."
283
00:19:07,922 --> 00:19:11,459
You know, he's got
to support this kid and...
284
00:19:11,492 --> 00:19:13,928
I mean, you know,
he was a working musician.
285
00:19:13,961 --> 00:19:18,833
But, working musician around town,
that's, that's tough.
286
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,302
And so, it just, the way he said it,
287
00:19:21,336 --> 00:19:23,471
I got to do something
that's never been done before.
288
00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:26,741
Well, he did.
289
00:19:28,309 --> 00:19:30,378
[PLAYING BASS GUITAR]
290
00:20:15,323 --> 00:20:16,324
That voice,
291
00:20:19,026 --> 00:20:21,896
was the voice of music, it was
the singer and the horn.
292
00:20:21,929 --> 00:20:26,033
It's not the rhythm section.
The rhythm section is there
doing the work to support it.
293
00:20:26,066 --> 00:20:28,303
We're the, we're the
setting of that ring.
294
00:20:28,336 --> 00:20:30,438
We made that diamond
shine brilliantly.
295
00:20:32,006 --> 00:20:33,574
In the right setting
the gem is beautiful,
296
00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:36,811
in the wrong setting, you can't see
the brilliance of it.
297
00:20:38,813 --> 00:20:42,283
So, our job is primarily
to support that stone,
298
00:20:42,317 --> 00:20:44,785
but he was able
to become the stone also.
299
00:20:52,660 --> 00:20:55,663
First thing, was to learn
to melody to every tune.
300
00:20:55,696 --> 00:20:59,434
- Um-hmm.
- Which I feel is like ultra important.
301
00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:01,702
- Uh-huh.
- The melody is always designated
302
00:21:01,736 --> 00:21:04,805
let's say to a horn player
the piano or the guitar.
303
00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:07,007
- Um-hm.
- But it's nice to play
it on the bass, too.
304
00:21:07,041 --> 00:21:09,410
Certainly. And a fretless bass.
305
00:21:09,444 --> 00:21:12,780
The fretless, I, I took
the frets out of my bass
306
00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:16,016
after I was, you know,
getting into jazz a lot
and to have that,
307
00:21:16,050 --> 00:21:19,053
that upright sound, you know,
so I had an upright.
308
00:21:19,086 --> 00:21:22,089
Took me years and years
to get enough bread to get it.
309
00:21:22,122 --> 00:21:24,525
One morning when I woke up,
310
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,394
in the corner the base
is in, like, a hundred pieces,
311
00:21:26,427 --> 00:21:29,597
you know, 'cause the humidity is so
bad, I mean, the upright just blew up.
312
00:21:29,630 --> 00:21:32,633
I said, "Forget it, I can't afford
this any more, so I went out",
313
00:21:33,634 --> 00:21:35,570
got a knife,
314
00:21:35,603 --> 00:21:38,973
and took all of, you know, frets
out of my Fender. That was it.
315
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,341
And the rest is history.
316
00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:41,376
[BOTH CHUCKLE]
317
00:21:46,046 --> 00:21:47,915
Careful, don't cut yourself.
318
00:21:47,948 --> 00:21:48,983
Don't cut me.
319
00:21:50,418 --> 00:21:52,420
Yeah.
320
00:21:52,453 --> 00:21:55,756
It's closer to the the, the sound of
a voice, the flexibility of a voice.
321
00:21:55,790 --> 00:21:59,427
The inflections. This, this adds to,
to sort of a
322
00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:01,962
metallic tone to the,
to the quality to the sound.
323
00:22:01,996 --> 00:22:03,831
That's right, it's less metallic.
324
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:04,899
[LAUGHING]
325
00:22:04,932 --> 00:22:06,434
Using a fretless bass
326
00:22:07,468 --> 00:22:10,004
gave the instrument
a resonance
327
00:22:10,037 --> 00:22:13,441
not to similar to a cello.
328
00:22:13,474 --> 00:22:18,613
That resonant rich warm tone
that sounds like a cello.
329
00:22:18,646 --> 00:22:20,915
I think, every bass player
in the world having heard that
330
00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:23,384
was... their world
was suddenly re-calibrated.
331
00:22:24,084 --> 00:22:25,586
What about harmonics?
332
00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:28,556
That's something that you,
like you pioneered.
333
00:22:28,589 --> 00:22:31,358
I mean, this must have had harmonics
on them forever, but you have like,
334
00:22:32,192 --> 00:22:34,094
almost like you went to a mine
335
00:22:34,128 --> 00:22:36,664
and you know, gotten gold out of
something that wasn't there before.
336
00:22:36,697 --> 00:22:38,733
Well, when I was first playing
337
00:22:38,766 --> 00:22:40,635
a friend of mine
338
00:22:40,668 --> 00:22:43,738
I saw him just tuning his guitar with
harmonics which everybody does and uh,
339
00:22:43,771 --> 00:22:45,540
so I was just doing this,
340
00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:48,543
it sounded like music to me so I
just kept, kept exploring it.
341
00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:50,578
That's all there was to it.
342
00:22:50,611 --> 00:22:56,016
He explored the harmonic range of,
of the instrument by,
by playing harmonics
343
00:22:56,050 --> 00:23:00,187
that uh, gave the bass
suddenly a symphonic range.
344
00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:02,457
Which again was ming blowing.
345
00:23:02,490 --> 00:23:03,724
[PLAYING BASS GUITAR]
346
00:23:43,531 --> 00:23:46,967
I think they gave me
a cassette of Jaco playing.
347
00:23:47,001 --> 00:23:51,772
And I'm listening to this wondering
who in the heck is this?
348
00:23:51,806 --> 00:23:53,474
Nobody plays like this.
349
00:23:55,009 --> 00:23:56,176
I was hard to describe.
350
00:23:58,713 --> 00:24:02,617
Jaco, married to Tracy with his
two kids John and Mary.
351
00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:06,721
Definitely a family man, almost
like uh, like uh like a farmer.
352
00:24:09,757 --> 00:24:14,495
His own personality
is so in much what he does.
353
00:24:14,529 --> 00:24:16,764
You're not even aware
of the influences.
354
00:24:16,797 --> 00:24:18,232
You're hearing something new.
355
00:24:20,568 --> 00:24:23,671
What I heard was him.
356
00:24:23,704 --> 00:24:27,942
And that's one of the most important
elements that a musician must have.
357
00:24:32,913 --> 00:24:37,017
Jaco had developed his own sound.
358
00:24:51,832 --> 00:24:53,267
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
359
00:25:07,682 --> 00:25:09,550
[MAN VOCALIZING]
360
00:25:09,584 --> 00:25:14,288
* There's days in my life
When I drift through my mind
361
00:25:14,321 --> 00:25:18,693
* Thinking about the good times
The kind I left behind
362
00:25:18,726 --> 00:25:20,961
* Next, I'm aware...
363
00:25:20,995 --> 00:25:23,731
This was I think, 1974.
364
00:25:23,764 --> 00:25:25,265
My band was Blood, Sweat and Tears.
365
00:25:25,299 --> 00:25:27,201
He was doing a residency down there,
366
00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:29,937
a Bachelors III in Fort Lauderdale.
367
00:25:29,970 --> 00:25:32,239
[CHATTERING]
368
00:25:32,272 --> 00:25:36,644
The softball team for Bachelors III
asked me to play
369
00:25:36,677 --> 00:25:41,081
and center field was a blond woman and
she had her mid on and her hands on her knees.
370
00:25:41,115 --> 00:25:43,183
She went, "Badder, badder,
hey, badder, badder!"
371
00:25:43,217 --> 00:25:45,953
I just said, "Who are you?"
And she said, "Oh, I'm Tracy."
372
00:25:45,986 --> 00:25:48,355
I said, "Well, how are you
affiliated with this group?"
373
00:25:48,388 --> 00:25:50,991
She said, "Well, I work at the club."
I said, "I never saw you at the club."
374
00:25:51,025 --> 00:25:53,327
She said, "I don't hang out
much, I just kinda go home."
375
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,664
And she was really cute,
really, really sweet girl.
376
00:25:56,697 --> 00:25:59,600
I said, "Are you married?"
And she said, "Yes."
377
00:25:59,634 --> 00:26:04,104
Uh... Pause.
"To the greatest bass
player in the world!"
378
00:26:04,138 --> 00:26:08,308
This fellow shows up, thin guy
with kind of plastic glasses.
379
00:26:08,342 --> 00:26:11,378
And he said, "I'm
Tracy's husband, Jaco."
380
00:26:11,411 --> 00:26:14,281
I said, "Oh. I understand you're the
greatest bass player in the world."
381
00:26:14,314 --> 00:26:17,652
He said, "I am."
And I went, "Okay."
382
00:26:17,685 --> 00:26:20,287
And then of course, the arrogant
New York side of me came out.
383
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,024
And I said, "Well, why don't you get
your bass and just play a little bit?"
384
00:26:24,058 --> 00:26:25,926
Just play."
385
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,765
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
386
00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:34,869
He played Donna Lee, that's a
Charlie Parker song with a solo.
387
00:26:34,902 --> 00:26:40,708
[PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE]
388
00:26:40,741 --> 00:26:43,610
[PLAYING THE DRUMS]
389
00:26:44,411 --> 00:26:49,383
[PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE]
390
00:26:51,351 --> 00:26:55,322
He played it with the facility
and the phrasing
391
00:26:55,355 --> 00:26:59,059
and nuance as a saxophone player.
392
00:26:59,093 --> 00:27:01,729
He wouldn't go...
[VOCALIZING]
393
00:27:01,762 --> 00:27:03,664
He'd go...
[VOCALIZING]
394
00:27:03,698 --> 00:27:06,901
Which I had never heard
before in that instrument.
395
00:27:06,934 --> 00:27:10,771
And I said, "You know, look, I'm
gonna try and get you a record deal."
396
00:27:11,706 --> 00:27:17,077
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
397
00:27:18,813 --> 00:27:20,915
I brought Jaco to New York
398
00:27:20,948 --> 00:27:24,151
and he lived there with me while
we were doing this album.
399
00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:27,421
Luckily the head of A&R
was a bass player.
400
00:27:27,454 --> 00:27:31,992
And I thought, you know, there is
no one that's gonna hear this who plays
401
00:27:32,026 --> 00:27:34,128
a stringed instrument
that isn't gonna go,
402
00:27:34,161 --> 00:27:37,998
"All right. Let's just start all
over and figure out what's going on."
403
00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:40,901
And Jaco had a tremendous
sense of loyalty.
404
00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:43,270
His friends in Florida
meant a lot to him.
405
00:27:43,303 --> 00:27:47,041
And he wanted to keep them
involved as much as possible.
406
00:27:47,074 --> 00:27:51,746
He comes to my house
and he says, "We got signed!"
407
00:27:51,779 --> 00:27:56,851
As soon as he said "we" like we was
like Simon and Garfunkel or something.
408
00:27:56,884 --> 00:27:59,219
He said, "Come on, you gotta
fly up here to New York."
409
00:27:59,253 --> 00:28:03,090
And he says, "Do not come
up if you're not gonna deliver."
410
00:28:03,123 --> 00:28:07,127
He didn't tell me a lot of
what we were walking into.
411
00:28:07,161 --> 00:28:11,031
My first day there, I walk
into Columbia Studios,
412
00:28:11,065 --> 00:28:13,200
Hubert Laws is the first one I see
413
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:16,170
and then I turn and there's Lenny White
sitting by the drums,
414
00:28:16,203 --> 00:28:20,040
and Jaco's eyes have lit up
'cause he knows he's found home.
415
00:28:20,074 --> 00:28:22,743
This is the level that he belongs on.
416
00:28:22,777 --> 00:28:27,748
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
417
00:28:27,782 --> 00:28:31,752
Word got out really fast
around the New York scene.
418
00:28:31,786 --> 00:28:37,157
Jaco was able to handpick
whoever he wanted.
419
00:28:37,191 --> 00:28:40,895
If you look at the pictures,
from that recording,
420
00:28:40,928 --> 00:28:45,199
my hair was all over my head
and you know, it was wild.
421
00:28:45,232 --> 00:28:50,270
And basically, what would happen is,
we would go play, take a take,
422
00:28:50,304 --> 00:28:52,406
and go outside and play basketball.
423
00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:54,441
I mean, we could have
done this on bicycles
424
00:28:54,474 --> 00:28:56,977
with microphones and he
would have played it perfectly.
425
00:28:57,011 --> 00:29:00,848
I don't think there were
a lot of takes on anything.
And there were no expectations.
426
00:29:00,881 --> 00:29:05,252
This wasn't a hit record,
pop radio, sort of thing.
427
00:29:05,285 --> 00:29:11,792
My goal was to bring Jaco to as
many people as humanely possible.
428
00:29:11,826 --> 00:29:17,164
To just have them listen
and recognize this genius.
429
00:29:17,197 --> 00:29:21,568
And then from there, whatever happens, happens
but that's the goal of a first record.
430
00:29:21,601 --> 00:29:23,570
And that's what I wanted to happen
431
00:29:23,603 --> 00:29:26,473
and I'm absolutely confident
that's exactly what happened.
432
00:29:28,108 --> 00:29:34,781
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
433
00:29:36,183 --> 00:29:39,019
Everybody was interested
in working for Jaco.
434
00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:41,055
I went over there with Ronson.
435
00:29:41,088 --> 00:29:42,923
"We've got to see this guy, you know."
436
00:29:42,957 --> 00:29:47,127
And Jaco just sat us up there
in Bobby's house playing...
437
00:29:47,161 --> 00:29:51,598
Kind of like a performing
seal or something.
438
00:29:51,631 --> 00:29:54,801
Enormous ego, but innocent.
439
00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:58,405
He was 21 years old at that point.
440
00:29:58,438 --> 00:30:01,909
He knew about dope,
he knew about all that stuff.
He was too clever for that.
441
00:30:01,942 --> 00:30:04,378
He would sit on top
of a hill and meditate.
442
00:30:04,411 --> 00:30:08,448
He had it all down, you know.
443
00:30:08,482 --> 00:30:12,552
I'm just about to do
All American Alien Boy
so he said, "I'll do that."
444
00:30:12,586 --> 00:30:16,156
He was totally immersed
in whatever he did.
445
00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:17,958
In my case, it was the record
I was doing.
446
00:30:17,992 --> 00:30:22,029
But like three months later, he was
totally immersed in something else.
447
00:30:22,062 --> 00:30:24,932
* Well I was born
On the line
448
00:30:24,965 --> 00:30:27,367
* And I was raised
On the line
449
00:30:27,401 --> 00:30:30,037
* Oh, I was schooled
On the line
450
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:32,372
* And I was fazed
On the line
451
00:30:32,406 --> 00:30:34,909
* And I was used
On the line
452
00:30:34,942 --> 00:30:37,211
* And I was dazed
On the line
453
00:30:37,244 --> 00:30:39,980
* Just had to split
Off the line
454
00:30:40,014 --> 00:30:42,516
* 'Cause I was crazed
Off the line
455
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:45,319
* But I remember
All the good times
456
00:30:45,352 --> 00:30:47,988
* Me 'n Miller enjoyed
457
00:30:48,022 --> 00:30:52,392
* Up and down the M1
In some luminous yo-yo toy
458
00:30:52,426 --> 00:30:55,062
* But the future has to change
459
00:30:55,095 --> 00:30:57,364
* And to change
I've got to destroy
460
00:30:57,397 --> 00:31:00,067
* Oh look out Lennon
Here I come
461
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,036
* Land ahoy-hoy-hoy
462
00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:06,606
* All American Alien Boy
All American Alien Boy
463
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,445
* All American Alien Boy
All American Alien Boy
464
00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:16,483
* All American Alien Boy
All American Alien Boy *
465
00:31:26,726 --> 00:31:31,498
Hello. Tonight's South Bank Shows are
filled with American jazz band,
Weather Report.
466
00:31:31,531 --> 00:31:38,105
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
467
00:31:38,138 --> 00:31:40,975
NARRATOR: Josef Zawinul
was born in 1932.
468
00:31:41,008 --> 00:31:43,343
And he grew up
in a village in Vienna woods.
469
00:31:43,377 --> 00:31:46,413
His music still draws on
his memories in Austria.
470
00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:49,984
There was a guy,
he played the piano and
he played something, uh...
471
00:31:50,017 --> 00:31:53,153
I never heard even
the name... Jazz.
472
00:31:53,187 --> 00:31:55,289
But there was something
about the name jazz...
473
00:31:55,322 --> 00:31:57,424
And I was kind of ego
tripping on this.
474
00:31:57,457 --> 00:32:00,260
You know, I said, J-A-Z-Z,
475
00:32:00,294 --> 00:32:05,032
somehow I saw,
I saw my name in there.
476
00:32:05,065 --> 00:32:07,134
NARRATOR: Zawinul began
with Wayne Shorter
477
00:32:07,167 --> 00:32:09,703
in Miles Davis' great
band of 1969.
478
00:32:09,736 --> 00:32:12,139
At that time, Davis was
gathering a number
479
00:32:12,172 --> 00:32:13,974
of the most talented
young musicians around him.
480
00:32:14,008 --> 00:32:18,545
Men like John McLaughlin,
Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams
and Chick Corea.
481
00:32:18,578 --> 00:32:22,682
Together, they were forging
a completely new kind
of electronic jazz.
482
00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:28,155
In getting into the 1970s,
483
00:32:28,188 --> 00:32:32,292
and we knew there was
a hell of a change happening,
484
00:32:32,326 --> 00:32:35,029
and that we would be
somehow responsible for it.
485
00:32:38,265 --> 00:32:43,070
When we went to Florida,
we were leaving a theater
and walking down a street.
486
00:32:43,103 --> 00:32:46,473
Someone from Florida
walking with us said,
487
00:32:46,506 --> 00:32:51,745
"The guy Jaco is right behind
you, he's right behind you."
488
00:32:53,047 --> 00:32:55,015
Jaco brought his album
489
00:32:55,049 --> 00:32:57,784
and he'll throw it
as a Frisbee to Joe...
490
00:32:57,817 --> 00:33:00,154
And say, "Hey Joe,
check this out! Ba!"
491
00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:04,624
You know, throw it like that.
And Joe, um, got it.
492
00:33:04,658 --> 00:33:07,194
Then he said, "By the way,
I wanna introduced myself",
493
00:33:07,227 --> 00:33:10,064
"My name is
John Francis Pastorius III,
494
00:33:10,097 --> 00:33:12,699
I'm the greatest bass
player in the world."
495
00:33:12,732 --> 00:33:16,403
And I said,
"Get the fuck outta here."
496
00:33:16,436 --> 00:33:18,638
I mean, that's the way
I said it.
497
00:33:20,574 --> 00:33:23,443
That evening after
we finished playing,
498
00:33:23,477 --> 00:33:25,679
I can hear music coming
out of a room,
499
00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:28,648
I kinda stop, and it's Joe's room.
500
00:33:28,682 --> 00:33:31,185
You know, I peep in
and I... I didn't see Jaco,
501
00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:35,155
I saw his back, his back was to the door,
but I could hear this recording and I go,
502
00:33:35,189 --> 00:33:38,458
"Wow, who's that?" you know?
So Joe said,
503
00:33:38,492 --> 00:33:43,230
"Come in, come in.
I want you to meet this guy.
He's a bad motherfucker."
504
00:33:43,263 --> 00:33:49,336
So he introduced me to Jaco
and listened to the record.
It was incredible.
505
00:33:49,369 --> 00:33:52,472
I started putting two and two together,
you know? [LAUGHING]
506
00:33:52,506 --> 00:33:55,375
Here's this phenomenal
bass player Joe's interested in,
507
00:33:55,409 --> 00:33:57,777
what are my chances of
my being around much longer?
508
00:33:57,811 --> 00:34:03,083
So I just kind of went for the other
gig and just worked out perfect.
509
00:34:04,651 --> 00:34:08,455
All of a sudden, here come
the news, Alphonse Johnson,
510
00:34:08,488 --> 00:34:10,790
gonna quit the band
because he's gonna make
511
00:34:10,824 --> 00:34:13,527
George Duke and Billy Cobham, a band.
512
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,530
It was July, 1975 exactly.
513
00:34:16,563 --> 00:34:20,167
We just came back from Boston,
Cannonball Adderley had died.
514
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,502
It was a very hard thing for me.
515
00:34:22,536 --> 00:34:25,305
And I wrote a song which
is called, Cannonball.
516
00:34:25,339 --> 00:34:27,741
I had this little melody
in the beginning,
517
00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:32,179
which I thought this guy's
tone would be perfect for
this kind of thing, you know?
518
00:34:32,212 --> 00:34:34,748
So we started writing
this particular tune.
519
00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:38,552
And in the beginning,
he was busy, you know?
520
00:34:38,585 --> 00:34:40,554
So I just stopped the band
for a minute
521
00:34:40,587 --> 00:34:44,424
and I said, "You know what?
We already know you can play."
522
00:34:44,458 --> 00:34:49,129
"Forget about that.
You are here with us now,
you know better now.
523
00:34:49,163 --> 00:34:51,631
You have a beautiful tone,
use that tone."
524
00:34:51,665 --> 00:34:55,369
And what happened at that
point is on the record.
525
00:34:56,503 --> 00:35:02,509
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
526
00:35:15,555 --> 00:35:19,826
Joe told me he wanted that
Florida sound on Cannonball.
527
00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:23,830
- That Florida sound.
- Yeah.
528
00:35:23,863 --> 00:35:30,704
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
529
00:35:32,539 --> 00:35:35,242
For Wayne and me, he was the third.
530
00:35:35,275 --> 00:35:37,211
You know if you have a triangle,
531
00:35:37,244 --> 00:35:40,614
this was three forceful personalities.
532
00:35:40,647 --> 00:35:45,485
Totally different
and nobody giving an inch.
533
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,389
Joe, when we finished
that tune, he called his wife.
534
00:35:49,423 --> 00:35:54,394
"Maxine, Maxine, please
tell so and so to cook tonight,
535
00:35:54,428 --> 00:35:57,264
"blah, blah, bring a lot of food
and wine and this and that.
536
00:35:57,297 --> 00:35:59,899
"We're having a banquet tonight
because we're gonna celebrate.
537
00:35:59,933 --> 00:36:01,901
A new guy has come, a genius."
538
00:36:01,935 --> 00:36:07,741
And Jaco right there told Joe,
"I need to talk to the
managers of Weather Report."
539
00:36:07,774 --> 00:36:10,210
And Jaco talked to them,
540
00:36:10,244 --> 00:36:15,349
"Okay, I wanna know if I can
put one song in the album?"
541
00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:17,551
And they laugh at him.
542
00:36:17,584 --> 00:36:20,287
They guys were telling
him on the phone, they said,
543
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,656
"Hey Weather Report
out of recording...
544
00:36:22,689 --> 00:36:24,624
Those are the best writers
in the whole world!"
545
00:36:24,658 --> 00:36:29,329
I said, "That's right but I want
to put a tune in there."
546
00:36:29,363 --> 00:36:32,932
And that's uh...
[VOCALIZING]
547
00:36:36,903 --> 00:36:43,910
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
548
00:36:50,617 --> 00:36:53,019
He knew how serious it is
549
00:36:53,052 --> 00:36:55,522
to leave a piece of your soul
550
00:36:55,555 --> 00:36:57,791
in a recording 'cause
it's gonna stay there forever.
551
00:37:04,898 --> 00:37:09,269
It's not about bass playing.
He was being a storyteller.
552
00:37:09,303 --> 00:37:12,539
We said we played music
with hills and valleys
553
00:37:12,572 --> 00:37:15,809
and streams and confrontations.
554
00:37:20,314 --> 00:37:23,983
People think that playing jazz is
just a couple of chords, you know.
555
00:37:24,017 --> 00:37:26,019
They call Earth, Wind and Fire jazz,
556
00:37:26,052 --> 00:37:28,322
and they call Kenny, cheap jazz.
557
00:37:28,355 --> 00:37:30,290
It's not, it's deeper than that.
558
00:37:34,628 --> 00:37:40,900
Jazz is a challenge to
improvise and be in the moment.
559
00:37:40,934 --> 00:37:43,837
That one moment equals eternity.
560
00:37:47,374 --> 00:37:50,777
The sound of the music
that is produced
561
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:54,614
is really the greatness
of the human being.
562
00:37:56,383 --> 00:38:02,989
[BASS MUSIC PLAYING]
563
00:38:18,372 --> 00:38:24,344
[APPLAUDING]
564
00:38:24,378 --> 00:38:27,714
[CLAPPING AND WHISTLING]
565
00:38:30,417 --> 00:38:33,687
We were just new, it was fresh,
there was nothing like it.
566
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,023
You know, and we were all like,
"Man, Jaco, man! It was like..."
567
00:38:37,056 --> 00:38:40,794
It's like going to a game and you're
rooting for, you know, Michael Jordan.
568
00:38:40,827 --> 00:38:46,400
You know, it's impossible or
difficult not to like someone who
569
00:38:46,433 --> 00:38:49,536
uh, we all identify
with at that point.
570
00:38:49,569 --> 00:38:50,970
You know, we're all rooting for him.
571
00:38:51,004 --> 00:38:55,842
It pushed the envelope.
It pushed you to do your best.
572
00:38:55,875 --> 00:39:01,681
And I think, uh, in doing that,
it helped push that whole era
573
00:39:01,715 --> 00:39:04,784
in reaching and there
was no boundaries.
574
00:39:04,818 --> 00:39:08,522
It was like, "Wow, if he could do
that, then maybe I can do this."
575
00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:09,889
I'm gonna take you there, baby.
Got ya!
576
00:39:09,923 --> 00:39:15,529
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
577
00:39:15,562 --> 00:39:20,567
There was a musical movement going on.
And we were in it.
578
00:39:21,968 --> 00:39:24,471
So google it, baby.
[GIGGLES]
579
00:39:25,705 --> 00:39:32,512
[BASS PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
580
00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:39,719
A lot of promotion,
sold out shows across the country.
581
00:39:39,753 --> 00:39:42,622
Uh, people going crazy.
It was really exciting.
582
00:39:44,023 --> 00:39:46,693
'Cause prior to that,
that didn't exist.
583
00:39:46,726 --> 00:39:51,631
You know, rock was rock
and jazz was jazz,
there wasn't a lot of fusion going on.
584
00:39:53,933 --> 00:40:00,006
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
585
00:40:01,908 --> 00:40:04,844
Back then, you went
to see Van Halen
586
00:40:04,878 --> 00:40:07,547
and then you would
go see Jaco Pastorius
587
00:40:07,581 --> 00:40:10,550
with the Weather Report
or Stanley Clark with
Weather Returned Forever.
588
00:40:10,584 --> 00:40:13,853
It was the outrageous
virtuosity.
589
00:40:13,887 --> 00:40:20,059
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
590
00:40:20,093 --> 00:40:23,730
[VOCALIZING]
You know, like playing
all this crazy shit.
591
00:40:23,763 --> 00:40:25,632
And I was a kid
and I was just like,
592
00:40:25,665 --> 00:40:29,068
"This guy is the coolest
motherfucker that ever lived!"
593
00:40:29,102 --> 00:40:32,572
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
594
00:40:32,606 --> 00:40:35,509
The so called jazz police
were having fits.
595
00:40:35,542 --> 00:40:38,945
These same people that were
going to Ozzy Osbourne concerts,
596
00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:42,048
were now coming to see
Returned Forever and
Weather Report.
597
00:40:42,081 --> 00:40:46,019
And you go out there and you play
everything at 99 miles an hour,
598
00:40:46,052 --> 00:40:48,922
as loud and as fast as you can.
599
00:40:48,955 --> 00:40:55,895
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
600
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:08,742
[BASS DRUMS MUSIC PLAYING]
601
00:41:11,545 --> 00:41:15,715
[BASS PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
602
00:41:15,749 --> 00:41:20,554
[BASS SAXOPHONE MUSIC PLAYING]
603
00:41:24,758 --> 00:41:31,264
The band hired me pretty much,
just purely on the strength
of Jaco's recommendation.
604
00:41:31,297 --> 00:41:36,002
Jaco and I were half
the age of Joe and Wayne.
605
00:41:36,035 --> 00:41:38,638
We were the kids
and we were the elders.
606
00:41:38,672 --> 00:41:44,143
And yet Joe and Jaco
would compete like brothers.
607
00:41:44,177 --> 00:41:49,616
He could go toe to toe with Zawinul
where anyone else would fear to tread.
608
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:57,290
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
609
00:41:58,191 --> 00:42:03,997
[APPLAUDING]
610
00:42:06,666 --> 00:42:10,069
- Thank you.
- [CHEERING]
611
00:42:10,103 --> 00:42:14,140
- How you doing?
- [CHEERING]
612
00:42:14,173 --> 00:42:18,812
- That's Peter Erskine!
- [APPLAUDING]
613
00:42:18,845 --> 00:42:21,948
- Jaco Pastorius!
- [APPLAUDING]
614
00:42:21,981 --> 00:42:24,984
- Joseph Zawinul!
- [APPLAUDING]
615
00:42:25,018 --> 00:42:27,053
Joe Zawinul would come and say,
616
00:42:27,086 --> 00:42:30,657
"Oh man, we are the greatest band
in the world, man, you know.
617
00:42:30,690 --> 00:42:33,927
"I mean, like please,
everybody's playing this stuff,
618
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,597
but we play it the real deal,
we play good stuff."
619
00:42:37,631 --> 00:42:41,067
And Jaco considered himself the
greatest bass player in the world.
620
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,671
So he had the greatest bass player
in the world getting
the greatest band in the world.
621
00:42:44,704 --> 00:42:47,273
Oh man, those two...
622
00:42:47,306 --> 00:42:51,044
were like two cobras.
623
00:42:51,077 --> 00:42:55,849
Two cobras in a very small cage,
624
00:42:55,882 --> 00:43:00,253
with no where to go but they have
to make this relationship work.
625
00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:03,156
That's what it was like
watching them on stage.
626
00:43:03,189 --> 00:43:06,392
And I can remember,
Zawinul with his speed
627
00:43:06,425 --> 00:43:11,898
and in between the cracks, there
would be Jaco with something sick.
628
00:43:11,931 --> 00:43:18,938
- [PLAYING THE PIANO]
- [PLAYING THE BASS GUITAR]
629
00:43:19,939 --> 00:43:24,277
And I remember sitting there, hearing
this conversation come in and out,
630
00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:28,247
that's when I realized,
"Man, this is like a boxing match."
631
00:43:32,886 --> 00:43:37,123
It would always surprise me when
I'd hear him criticize Jaco.
632
00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:41,194
"You know, Jaco sounds
like a trombone sometimes.
633
00:43:41,227 --> 00:43:45,198
You know, teen talents,
this is not really a
Weather Report song."
634
00:43:46,833 --> 00:43:48,534
Jaco hated that.
635
00:43:48,567 --> 00:43:50,904
He didn't want to hang around for
any of that so he would disappear.
636
00:43:52,872 --> 00:43:55,842
Jaco respected his jazz elders.
637
00:43:55,875 --> 00:44:01,014
And yet, he wasn't above
ruffling their feathers.
638
00:44:01,047 --> 00:44:03,817
In these photos, you can see
Wayne in the background.
639
00:44:03,850 --> 00:44:06,185
He was drinking, had his cigarette,
he's just watching,
640
00:44:06,219 --> 00:44:11,390
Wayne never said anything,
Joe was doing all the talking.
641
00:44:11,424 --> 00:44:15,762
Jaco used to say, me and Frank
Sinatra, we're Sagittarians.
642
00:44:15,795 --> 00:44:20,133
I'm a Sag, he's a Sag.
[CHUCKLING]
643
00:44:20,166 --> 00:44:24,303
He met my mother
and said, "You're a Sag!"
644
00:44:24,337 --> 00:44:26,439
My mother said, "I'm a Sag, too!"
645
00:44:26,472 --> 00:44:32,378
And she always talked about courage
and guts to get through
the damn day and everything.
646
00:44:32,411 --> 00:44:36,916
And, um, she would say this about Jaco,
"That child", she'll call him "that child".
647
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:43,189
"That child", she said,
"that child, he knows
what he's talking about."
648
00:44:43,222 --> 00:44:47,226
Then she'll say, "He's mighty
wild though, ain't he?"
649
00:44:47,260 --> 00:44:53,366
His identity in music
and theater was coming out.
650
00:44:53,399 --> 00:44:58,104
That's what Jaco had, a history,
not just a library but a history,
651
00:44:58,137 --> 00:45:03,777
of being open and not shutting
out many kinds of music.
652
00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:06,813
The bass almost became incidental.
653
00:45:11,851 --> 00:45:18,157
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
654
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:34,173
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
655
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:55,829
[APPLAUDING]
656
00:45:55,862 --> 00:46:02,301
[BASS TEMPO INCREASES]
657
00:46:02,335 --> 00:46:03,536
[THUD]
658
00:46:03,569 --> 00:46:07,974
[APPLAUDING AND CLAPPING]
659
00:46:08,007 --> 00:46:12,946
[CHEERING AND WHISTLING]
660
00:46:32,031 --> 00:46:35,601
For this next song, I have
to go into a rather funny tune.
661
00:46:35,634 --> 00:46:38,838
This is a song about a daydreamer.
662
00:46:38,872 --> 00:46:43,910
And daydreaming can get you into a
lot of difficulties sometimes,
663
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:46,980
if not used properly.
664
00:46:47,013 --> 00:46:51,350
[GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
665
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,322
[JOAN SINGING]
666
00:46:56,355 --> 00:47:02,128
It took me a long time to find a
rhythm section that could play my music.
667
00:47:02,161 --> 00:47:03,897
So I went through a lot of players,
668
00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:05,431
I'll put them on the record
and take them off.
669
00:47:05,464 --> 00:47:08,601
So it was until my sixth album,
670
00:47:08,634 --> 00:47:13,139
that one of the guys in this section,
Ruskunkel, the drummer said to me,
671
00:47:13,172 --> 00:47:18,211
"Joannie, you know, you're gonna
have to play with jazz musicians."
672
00:47:18,244 --> 00:47:20,546
I heard this guy, he played
what he was gonna play
673
00:47:20,579 --> 00:47:23,149
and I said, "Well, could
you play this note?"
674
00:47:23,182 --> 00:47:26,119
And he went, "I'm not playing that.
That's not the route of the chord."
675
00:47:26,152 --> 00:47:28,955
I said, "Well, it will be
when you play it. I mean..."
676
00:47:28,988 --> 00:47:31,925
And he rebelled on another
issue and finally he said,
677
00:47:31,958 --> 00:47:35,361
"There's this really weird
bass player in Florida
678
00:47:35,394 --> 00:47:38,231
you'd probably like him."
679
00:47:38,264 --> 00:47:40,900
I said, "Well, would he play these
things I'm asking you?"
680
00:47:40,934 --> 00:47:44,237
"He's already doing
that weird stuff." Right?
681
00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:47,173
So I sent for Jaco,
excited on seeing him.
682
00:47:48,341 --> 00:47:55,014
[SERENE INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING]
683
00:48:09,028 --> 00:48:12,331
* I'm traveling in some vehicle
684
00:48:15,234 --> 00:48:19,438
* I'm sitting in some cafe
685
00:48:19,472 --> 00:48:23,576
* A defector
From the petty wars
686
00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:26,345
* That shell shock love away...
687
00:48:26,379 --> 00:48:29,515
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
688
00:48:29,548 --> 00:48:32,118
I'd set up this architecture in me,
689
00:48:32,151 --> 00:48:35,554
he just kind of instinctively,
played figuratively...
690
00:48:35,588 --> 00:48:40,960
You know, you're inviting another
painter to join you on your canvas.
691
00:48:40,994 --> 00:48:42,661
It's very conversational.
692
00:48:42,695 --> 00:48:44,197
* It's just as natural
693
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:49,302
* As the weather
in this moody sky today
694
00:48:52,238 --> 00:48:57,443
* In our possessive coupling
695
00:48:57,476 --> 00:49:02,281
* So much could
not be expressed *
696
00:49:02,315 --> 00:49:06,285
Jaco came into work one night
and he said, "Look at my neck."
697
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:11,324
And I looked at it and on this side,
there was a bruise and a redness
698
00:49:11,357 --> 00:49:17,363
and a hollow like that...
It looked like it had
been made by a pipe.
699
00:49:17,396 --> 00:49:21,334
And he was driving home the night
before from the studio,
700
00:49:21,367 --> 00:49:23,102
straight up Sunset Boulevard
701
00:49:23,136 --> 00:49:25,338
to this motel where he was staying.
702
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,541
And the cops pulled him over.
703
00:49:28,574 --> 00:49:33,346
And I don't know what he said to
that cop, but the next thing he knew,
704
00:49:33,379 --> 00:49:37,083
the cop had his pistol
shoved into his throat.
705
00:49:37,116 --> 00:49:42,321
You know, deeply because the impression
of it was still there 24 hours later.
706
00:49:42,355 --> 00:49:44,590
Or 20 hours later.
707
00:49:44,623 --> 00:49:48,027
And while the cop had
that pistol at his throat,
708
00:49:48,061 --> 00:49:51,230
he said I said to myself,
"It's not my time to die."
709
00:49:53,699 --> 00:49:59,805
And he apparently seemed to
know when his time to die was.
710
00:49:59,838 --> 00:50:03,776
I mean, this was side to him that
not many people knew about.
711
00:50:03,809 --> 00:50:08,114
I remember he took me up to the bar
in Keio Plaza to have a drink.
712
00:50:08,147 --> 00:50:12,685
And so we get the Sake
and we have a drink
and he starts crying.
713
00:50:12,718 --> 00:50:16,389
And I said, "Well, what's wrong?
What's wrong, man?"
714
00:50:16,422 --> 00:50:21,127
And he says, "Well, listen,
I'm gonna die when I turn 34."
715
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,163
"And I would like you
to look after my babies."
716
00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:28,501
So I said,
"You got it. You got it."
717
00:50:28,534 --> 00:50:32,071
Sometimes you see things
you don't wanna know.
718
00:50:32,105 --> 00:50:36,109
Especially about yourself. And
this was one of those times for Jaco.
719
00:50:41,147 --> 00:50:48,121
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
720
00:50:48,154 --> 00:50:51,224
[CHILDREN LAUGHING]
721
00:51:19,285 --> 00:51:24,223
MARY: My vision of my dad
in my mind's eye always
goes to that period.
722
00:51:26,492 --> 00:51:31,830
He has no shirt on,
he's in corduroy
cut-off Levi shorts
723
00:51:31,864 --> 00:51:35,768
and he's barefoot
and his hair's long
and he's tan.
724
00:51:39,905 --> 00:51:46,779
He was so young when I was born
and he wasn't famous yet.
725
00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:52,351
If he had gigs, you know,
outside Calypso bars,
whatever, we weren't so...
726
00:51:52,385 --> 00:51:54,320
I had him there every day.
727
00:51:56,222 --> 00:51:58,757
- He would point out,
you know, bird sounds...
-[BIRDS CHIRPING]
728
00:51:58,791 --> 00:52:02,195
- Wind blowing through leaves or chimes.
-[CHIMES TINKLING]
729
00:52:02,228 --> 00:52:04,497
He heard music in everything.
730
00:52:06,765 --> 00:52:09,735
[SEAGULLS SQUAWKING]
731
00:52:14,307 --> 00:52:17,743
It's a gift and I mean,
it's a burden, too.
732
00:52:20,446 --> 00:52:24,283
My father was my hero.
And still is my hero.
733
00:52:24,317 --> 00:52:28,153
You know, every dad
should be their son's hero.
734
00:52:30,323 --> 00:52:32,625
He bought like a Yamaha,
what was it? 750?
735
00:52:32,658 --> 00:52:36,329
-[ENGINE REVVING]
- And we'll just jump on and
ride all the way up the coast.
736
00:52:36,362 --> 00:52:38,731
[ENGINE REVVING]
737
00:52:38,764 --> 00:52:40,799
I would never tell him,
I'm scared.
738
00:52:40,833 --> 00:52:42,000
And I'll be holding on, terrified,
739
00:52:42,034 --> 00:52:45,338
but holding on,
that's what I miss the most.
740
00:52:45,371 --> 00:52:47,606
[ENGINE REVVING]
741
00:52:52,345 --> 00:52:54,213
I mean, he was a great dad, man.
742
00:52:54,247 --> 00:52:58,551
I mean, but I know
he wanted to be there more.
743
00:53:00,819 --> 00:53:07,593
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
744
00:53:16,635 --> 00:53:20,439
You know, I remember postcards
he'll always send to John and Mary.
745
00:53:20,473 --> 00:53:24,477
Every postcard, he'll either
point out the historical fact,
746
00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:28,381
or he'll post a question,
get the kids thinking.
747
00:53:28,414 --> 00:53:30,483
Almost every morning, without fail.
748
00:53:30,516 --> 00:53:32,418
He knows his important
part of the routine
749
00:53:32,451 --> 00:53:34,887
when we travel, to find postcards
750
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,290
to get stamps for those postcards.
751
00:53:39,024 --> 00:53:42,495
Any city we went to,
no matter how tired we were,
752
00:53:42,528 --> 00:53:44,797
we were gonna hit the streets,
we were gonna see
753
00:53:44,830 --> 00:53:49,268
the best that Florence
or Rome or Milan had to offer.
754
00:53:49,302 --> 00:53:52,305
Venice... "Come on,
let's ride in the gondolas."
755
00:53:52,338 --> 00:53:56,675
"Let's go on the canals."
When are we gonna get
a chance to do that?
756
00:53:56,709 --> 00:53:59,578
Um, we had fun.
757
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,950
I never saw him on those first tours
758
00:54:04,983 --> 00:54:08,587
act high or drunk,
it was all good times.
759
00:54:10,489 --> 00:54:13,959
Um, but it was present.
760
00:54:13,992 --> 00:54:17,630
He was like a kid, you know,
he would do things,
761
00:54:17,663 --> 00:54:22,501
like hide on the bus
while it's moving.
762
00:54:22,535 --> 00:54:27,506
And Zawinul will be looking for him
for 30 minutes and nobody could find him.
763
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:31,844
And then he would give up and then
Jaco would come out laughing.
764
00:54:31,877 --> 00:54:35,681
And these are the kind of things
he would do, just very playful.
765
00:54:35,714 --> 00:54:37,983
Going on stage, "No prisoners!"
766
00:54:38,016 --> 00:54:41,687
was the last thing you would
hear him say. "No prisoners!"
767
00:54:42,588 --> 00:54:48,093
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
768
00:54:48,126 --> 00:54:52,565
[ENGINE WHIRRING]
769
00:54:52,598 --> 00:54:55,834
KRIS KRISTOFFERSON:
March, 1979, 200 singers,
770
00:54:55,868 --> 00:54:58,937
musicians and technicians
and 70 tonnes of equipment
771
00:54:58,971 --> 00:55:03,709
to arrive at
Jose Marti airport,
Havana for the Havana jam.
772
00:55:05,378 --> 00:55:07,112
Okay, Havana here we are.
773
00:55:07,145 --> 00:55:10,416
It's really happening for
the first time ever.
774
00:55:10,449 --> 00:55:12,050
Looking out the window
of this car,
775
00:55:12,084 --> 00:55:16,589
I'm feeling more like Christopher
Columbus than Kris Kristofferson.
776
00:55:16,622 --> 00:55:19,725
The Havana Jam, Kris Kristofferson,
777
00:55:19,758 --> 00:55:25,498
Rita Coolidge, Stephen Stills,
Billy Joel... It was odd.
778
00:55:25,531 --> 00:55:28,867
Billy Joel and Jaco giving
each other attitude.
779
00:55:28,901 --> 00:55:33,972
With all the bands kind of there to
support each other,
yet were dissing each other.
780
00:55:34,006 --> 00:55:37,443
It's gonna be a face to face
confrontation between people who
781
00:55:37,476 --> 00:55:41,447
had best only heard of each other
over 90 miles of Caribbean water.
782
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,882
For three nights, the stage
of the Karl Marx Theater
783
00:55:43,916 --> 00:55:46,385
here in Havana, Cuba
will be shared by American
784
00:55:46,419 --> 00:55:49,822
and Cuban musicians
in a unique cultural exchange.
785
00:55:49,855 --> 00:55:52,825
First of its kind
since political, economic
786
00:55:52,858 --> 00:55:56,595
and philosophical differences separated
our country 20 years ago.
787
00:55:56,629 --> 00:55:58,564
[APPLAUDING]
788
00:55:58,597 --> 00:56:02,601
That distinctive pulse at the heart
of Cuban music is an African heartbeat.
789
00:56:02,635 --> 00:56:06,104
I think you'll hear it in the work
of the astonishing Tata Guines.
790
00:56:06,138 --> 00:56:09,508
[CHEERING AND WHISTLING]
791
00:56:09,542 --> 00:56:15,714
[TAPPING ON
THE PERCUSSION DRUMS]
792
00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:30,162
[TAPPING ON
THE PERCUSSION DRUMS]
793
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,471
Jaco was like a kid getting the
autograph of Tata Guines.
794
00:56:42,808 --> 00:56:49,014
Many of the patterns that Jaco played
on the bass were really Congo patterns.
795
00:56:49,047 --> 00:56:54,587
You know, Jaco's whole Florida beat,
his whole Caribbean thing, it's that.
796
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:58,090
[TAPPING ON THE PERCUSSION DRUMS]
797
00:56:58,123 --> 00:57:02,895
Coincidentally, I mean,
the Havana Jam was the first
sign of things going wrong.
798
00:57:05,598 --> 00:57:07,800
Jaco got into a thing
799
00:57:07,833 --> 00:57:11,003
with one of the musicians
who was the Fania All-Stars.
800
00:57:11,036 --> 00:57:13,972
I think these guys were
also from Puerto Rico.
801
00:57:14,006 --> 00:57:19,144
And I don't know if there was some
Cuban, Puerto Rican musical dynamic,
802
00:57:19,177 --> 00:57:26,051
but the guy definitely was
giving Jaco short shrift.
803
00:57:26,819 --> 00:57:31,056
I mean, Jaco almost got into a fist
fight. I think Joe had to break it up.
804
00:57:31,089 --> 00:57:34,960
And then Jaco lost face
and I think, uh,
805
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:39,898
part of that mechanism of his losing
face and this whole humiliation thing,
806
00:57:39,932 --> 00:57:43,035
and it played out
and This Trio of Doom,
807
00:57:43,068 --> 00:57:47,039
which had tremendously successful
rehearsals in New York.
808
00:57:47,072 --> 00:57:50,509
[BASS MUSIC PLAYING]
809
00:57:50,543 --> 00:57:55,881
It was the buzz talk of the whole
trip, The Trio of Doom.
810
00:57:55,914 --> 00:58:00,152
The Jazz, rock, whatever you want to
call it were equivalent to the three tenors.
811
00:58:00,185 --> 00:58:02,721
[CHEERING]
812
00:58:02,755 --> 00:58:06,625
Tonight, we have visiting Tropicana
of a group of American artists...
813
00:58:06,659 --> 00:58:08,827
It could have been great.
814
00:58:08,861 --> 00:58:14,232
But once Jaco kind of went into his
little self-destruct mode,
815
00:58:16,268 --> 00:58:20,138
which unfortunately
occurred during their set.
816
00:58:20,172 --> 00:58:23,241
The concert was pretty
much considered a disaster.
817
00:58:23,275 --> 00:58:26,779
I mean, Jaco was just not himself.
818
00:58:27,713 --> 00:58:29,748
Playing Portrait of Tracy,
819
00:58:29,782 --> 00:58:32,951
and turning the bass up really loud,
just not playing the tunes.
820
00:58:34,086 --> 00:58:36,622
Tony never forgave him.
821
00:58:36,655 --> 00:58:41,193
And it was an odd pattern. I mean,
whenever Jaco would lose face somehow,
822
00:58:41,226 --> 00:58:45,063
there would be this odd acting out.
823
00:58:45,097 --> 00:58:47,866
I don't know what the dynamics are,
you know.
824
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:51,136
My dad was psychiatrist
and he tried to help Jaco.
825
00:58:51,169 --> 00:58:54,206
Maybe my father didn't
pass along too much
826
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,875
of that wisdom to me but...
827
00:58:56,909 --> 00:59:00,779
You know, there was some
complicated stuff going on.
828
00:59:01,847 --> 00:59:07,552
[APPLAUDING]
829
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:14,593
[DRUMS BEATING]
830
00:59:15,894 --> 00:59:22,300
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
831
00:59:23,936 --> 00:59:26,338
* Watching the dry cleaner
Do it
832
00:59:26,371 --> 00:59:28,741
* Like Midas In a polyester suit
833
00:59:28,774 --> 00:59:31,376
* It's all luck! It's just luck!
834
00:59:31,409 --> 00:59:35,080
* You get a little lucky
And you make a little money! *
835
00:59:35,113 --> 00:59:41,386
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
836
00:59:41,419 --> 00:59:46,959
He played in Santa Barbara.
Jaco came out on tour.
He came late for rehearsals,
837
00:59:46,992 --> 00:59:51,997
shoved my mike off the center,
widened his space, powdered the floor,
838
00:59:52,030 --> 00:59:56,068
and you know, took long solos
where he danced around a lot.
839
00:59:56,101 --> 01:00:02,307
[BASS DRUMS MUSIC PLAYING]
840
01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:08,346
[BASS SAXOPHONE PLAYING]
841
01:00:08,380 --> 01:00:12,851
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
842
01:00:12,885 --> 01:00:15,654
[APPLAUDING]
843
01:00:15,688 --> 01:00:18,056
[LAUGHING]
844
01:00:18,090 --> 01:00:21,026
On bass, Jaco Pastorius!
845
01:00:21,059 --> 01:00:25,063
[CLAPPING AND CHEERING]
846
01:00:25,097 --> 01:00:31,403
In Santa Barbara where we filmed,
his wife and his mother showed up.
847
01:00:31,436 --> 01:00:34,707
I don't know what those women
did to him in the back room...
[LAUGHING]
848
01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:39,812
But it was a good thing because when
he came out that night and took his solo,
849
01:00:39,845 --> 01:00:43,448
he opened up by quoting,
I was High and Mighty.
850
01:00:43,481 --> 01:00:48,854
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
851
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,108
It was starting to fall apart.
852
01:01:10,142 --> 01:01:14,279
Jaco and the kids and Tracy
and fame, and all that.
853
01:01:14,312 --> 01:01:18,283
It was just you know,
some things changing.
854
01:01:20,352 --> 01:01:27,292
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
855
01:01:33,298 --> 01:01:39,271
[APPLAUDING AND CLAPPING]
856
01:01:45,010 --> 01:01:47,279
Jaco took the fame hit.
857
01:01:49,447 --> 01:01:53,518
I can't imagine walking, you know,
out or doing something,
858
01:01:53,551 --> 01:01:56,822
then all of a sudden, all these
people congregate around you,
859
01:01:56,855 --> 01:01:59,091
and wanna know you and talk to you
860
01:01:59,124 --> 01:02:01,927
and be part of you know,
what's going on.
861
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,297
I just... It frightens me.
862
01:02:05,330 --> 01:02:09,935
Suddenly, he was entering some kind
of challenges that didn't exist before.
863
01:02:12,871 --> 01:02:16,775
Certainly, Tracy's relationship
was home for him.
864
01:02:16,809 --> 01:02:19,177
And it pained him
and it saddened him that
865
01:02:19,211 --> 01:02:23,448
that relationship ended,
you know.
866
01:02:23,481 --> 01:02:29,487
I think that was
a huge loss for him.
867
01:02:29,521 --> 01:02:36,361
You know, failure in the life of a guy
who had experienced so much triumph.
868
01:02:38,563 --> 01:02:43,068
[DRUMS BEATING]
869
01:02:43,101 --> 01:02:50,042
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
870
01:02:50,075 --> 01:02:53,545
He was conveying his inner
self on his canvas.
871
01:02:53,578 --> 01:02:56,448
Everything came out
on the instrument
872
01:02:56,481 --> 01:02:59,151
as if he was
on the psychiatrist couch
873
01:02:59,184 --> 01:03:02,354
and revealed everything
about who he was.
874
01:03:02,387 --> 01:03:09,394
[INCREASED THE TEMPO OF THE BEAT]
875
01:04:07,685 --> 01:04:11,156
[LOUD CHEERING]
876
01:04:11,189 --> 01:04:17,129
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
877
01:04:41,053 --> 01:04:44,522
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
878
01:04:52,064 --> 01:04:53,531
[MUSIC STOPS]
879
01:04:55,133 --> 01:05:00,672
[APPLAUDING AND CLAPPING]
880
01:05:00,705 --> 01:05:04,042
[CHEERING AND WHISTLING]
881
01:05:10,248 --> 01:05:14,019
- [CHILDREN CHATTERING]
- [SEAGULLS SQUAWKING]
882
01:05:14,052 --> 01:05:16,688
CONRAD: So tell me, what happened with
that little tour with Johnny in the summer?
883
01:05:16,721 --> 01:05:20,258
Did it open up any new things for you?
884
01:05:20,292 --> 01:05:24,963
JACO: No. No, I'm just doing
my own thing, you know.
885
01:05:24,997 --> 01:05:28,233
CONRAD: No, I mean... But have
you got a project happening?
886
01:05:28,266 --> 01:05:32,670
JACO: I don't know, you know, 'cause,
I mean, I'm still just the side man,
you know?
887
01:05:32,704 --> 01:05:35,107
CONRAD: Right.
888
01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:37,542
CONRAD: So is Epic, are you
hanging it up with Epic
889
01:05:37,575 --> 01:05:39,677
or are you gonna try
to renegotiate with them?
890
01:05:39,711 --> 01:05:42,580
JACO: Oh, they're such assholes,
man, you know, like uh...
891
01:05:42,614 --> 01:05:45,550
CONRAD: Do have a contract where they've
got an option on your next record?
892
01:05:45,583 --> 01:05:49,421
JACO: Yeah, but that don't
matter to me, you know?
[LAUGHING]
893
01:05:49,454 --> 01:05:51,323
All this legal shit
in the record business
894
01:05:51,356 --> 01:05:54,526
has got to change because
it's 100 percent rip off.
895
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:57,062
I will never put up
with any of that shit.
896
01:05:57,095 --> 01:05:59,998
I will never get ripped off like that.
897
01:06:00,032 --> 01:06:04,469
Because I don't care. I'll just
come home and play baseball all day.
898
01:06:04,502 --> 01:06:07,105
-[LAUGHING]
- Which I do when I'm home,
you know what I mean?
899
01:06:07,139 --> 01:06:10,708
And play basketball and Frisbee
and just have fun, you know?
900
01:06:12,377 --> 01:06:16,414
The key issues in his life
then were family upheaval.
901
01:06:16,448 --> 01:06:18,783
Big changes in family.
902
01:06:18,816 --> 01:06:22,054
And also,
903
01:06:22,087 --> 01:06:27,425
dissatisfaction with
his established work.
904
01:06:27,459 --> 01:06:34,432
What was on record so far for him,
left him dissatisfied.
905
01:06:34,466 --> 01:06:38,703
He had married Ingrid and
moved up to Deerfield beach.
906
01:06:41,706 --> 01:06:44,442
We would get together at 4:00 a.m.
907
01:06:44,476 --> 01:06:48,646
And he wanted to be recording every
morning when the sun came up.
908
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,218
He obviously had compositional
ideas that were...
909
01:06:53,251 --> 01:06:56,588
There's a lot of hints
of those on the first record.
910
01:06:56,621 --> 01:07:00,658
Okonkole y Trompa,
it's just a masterpiece.
911
01:07:00,692 --> 01:07:02,760
It's almost classical music.
912
01:07:08,633 --> 01:07:12,637
He had things to show people
that they'd never heard before.
913
01:07:14,772 --> 01:07:17,742
They were in his head for quite a while.
914
01:07:19,444 --> 01:07:22,147
People realized that this is...
915
01:07:22,180 --> 01:07:24,749
We don't know what this is.
916
01:07:26,251 --> 01:07:27,619
Show us.
917
01:07:29,221 --> 01:07:35,260
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
918
01:07:57,682 --> 01:08:00,485
I mean, there was
a buzz on Jaco, of course.
919
01:08:00,518 --> 01:08:03,755
Here's a guy that could
write, that could arrange,
that could play.
920
01:08:03,788 --> 01:08:05,523
He was a collaborator.
921
01:08:05,557 --> 01:08:10,428
It was apparent to some of us that
this guy was really something special.
922
01:08:10,462 --> 01:08:12,096
And in addition to being
something special
923
01:08:12,130 --> 01:08:15,833
had the potential really, you know,
to break through and cross over.
924
01:08:15,867 --> 01:08:20,538
We set out on, really kind of a quest
to get Jaco to come to Warner Brothers.
925
01:08:20,572 --> 01:08:23,808
It was a start level deal,
make no mistake about it.
926
01:08:23,841 --> 01:08:26,744
And because the record
business is a business,
927
01:08:26,778 --> 01:08:30,382
expectations, you know,
tend to follow the deal.
928
01:08:30,415 --> 01:08:36,754
If you sign an act for $75,000,
your expectations, you know,
are at one level,
929
01:08:36,788 --> 01:08:39,424
if you sign an act
for four times that...
930
01:08:39,457 --> 01:08:45,230
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
931
01:08:57,642 --> 01:09:01,513
He said, "You know what dub is?"
932
01:09:01,546 --> 01:09:08,520
And I said, "I believe I do. Yeah,
I know, it's like the old reggae",
933
01:09:08,553 --> 01:09:11,356
the guy dropping
the fader, talking over you..."
934
01:09:11,389 --> 01:09:13,425
He goes, "Yeah, it's gonna be
a little different than that."
935
01:09:13,458 --> 01:09:18,796
He said, "We're not gonna let
anybody hear anyone else's parts."
936
01:09:18,830 --> 01:09:22,767
Whatever happens, let's see if it fits."
937
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,405
It had a life of it's own.
It really grew powerfully.
938
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:33,845
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
939
01:09:46,458 --> 01:09:50,295
It's very rare that any record
has a piece on it like this.
940
01:09:50,328 --> 01:09:53,598
Pablo Picasso Guernica,
Jaco Pastorius' Crisis.
941
01:09:53,631 --> 01:09:55,800
I mean, they are of the same cloth.
942
01:09:57,034 --> 01:10:02,874
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
943
01:10:06,944 --> 01:10:09,481
He wanted to open the record with this.
944
01:10:09,514 --> 01:10:11,148
I mean, there are a lot of
people at the company,
945
01:10:11,182 --> 01:10:13,418
if they'd heard this track, they'll
just pull their hair out and said,
946
01:10:13,451 --> 01:10:14,752
"Wait a minute, we can't even have this.
947
01:10:14,786 --> 01:10:16,053
"This is crazy. It's a cacophony.
948
01:10:16,087 --> 01:10:18,990
It's a atonal. Nobody
can follow it. It's scary."
949
01:10:19,023 --> 01:10:20,725
I'm shaking right now
as I think about it.
950
01:10:20,758 --> 01:10:23,561
I was kind of scared of the idea
of it opening the record.
951
01:10:23,595 --> 01:10:24,762
They pleaded with him.
952
01:10:24,796 --> 01:10:26,631
They said, "Any of it
to him about that."
953
01:10:26,664 --> 01:10:29,367
"We can't get this album onto radio
954
01:10:29,401 --> 01:10:31,603
if that's the first track."
955
01:10:31,636 --> 01:10:34,739
I think it really made him very happy
956
01:10:34,772 --> 01:10:37,241
to think of this going on a record.
957
01:10:40,011 --> 01:10:43,381
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
958
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,055
I would say that he was venting.
959
01:10:51,088 --> 01:10:54,426
He was venting little bit
of personal frustration.
960
01:10:55,627 --> 01:10:56,994
And then he realizes
961
01:10:57,028 --> 01:10:59,931
that it's the only way
to start a record like this.
962
01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:01,733
You know, it's to make people
963
01:11:01,766 --> 01:11:03,801
wonder what's coming.
964
01:11:03,835 --> 01:11:07,539
And then what comes is so different.
965
01:11:07,572 --> 01:11:10,642
[PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
966
01:11:41,138 --> 01:11:42,707
The Word of Mouth album
967
01:11:42,740 --> 01:11:45,943
was so revealing of Jaco as a person.
968
01:11:45,977 --> 01:11:48,079
It was almost
969
01:11:48,112 --> 01:11:52,016
embarrassing to listen to it,
it was so intimidate at times.
970
01:11:52,049 --> 01:11:54,652
And it was the most courageous
971
01:11:54,686 --> 01:11:58,623
things ever done, it was the most
daring thing he's done.
972
01:11:58,656 --> 01:12:00,825
It's Jaco's internal thing,
973
01:12:00,858 --> 01:12:03,027
to real cure with euphorias.
974
01:12:04,729 --> 01:12:10,568
[JOHN AND MARY PLAYING]
975
01:12:47,639 --> 01:12:49,974
There were some people
that were less than
976
01:12:50,007 --> 01:12:52,076
thrilled about this, they
thought, "Aw, wait a minute."
977
01:12:52,109 --> 01:12:53,578
"This is like the switch arrow.
978
01:12:53,611 --> 01:12:55,146
"He signed this guy to make these
979
01:12:55,179 --> 01:12:58,816
big hit fusion records and now
he's doing this thing over here."
980
01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:59,851
Um...
981
01:13:00,885 --> 01:13:04,889
I know how comfortable
he was with the concept.
982
01:13:04,922 --> 01:13:08,159
How good he felt about what he
was doing, that it was right.
983
01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:17,902
Label had never
quite really acknowledged
984
01:13:17,935 --> 01:13:20,171
the master work it was.
985
01:13:20,204 --> 01:13:23,741
And it hurt Jaco deeply to tears.
986
01:13:23,775 --> 01:13:26,210
It really did hurt him.
987
01:13:26,243 --> 01:13:29,614
I remember Jaco, really needing
Joe's approval.
988
01:13:29,647 --> 01:13:32,917
And we would call him on the phone.
989
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:36,454
And play the tape,
with the phone held up.
990
01:13:36,488 --> 01:13:38,055
All the time.
991
01:13:38,089 --> 01:13:40,858
And it was often,
992
01:13:40,892 --> 01:13:42,994
the end of the day session.
993
01:13:43,027 --> 01:13:47,765
Because Joe will be cruelly dismissive.
994
01:13:47,799 --> 01:13:51,469
I kind of wanted to say to Jaco,
"Let's not call Joe today."
995
01:13:53,004 --> 01:13:57,875
Joe had a fighters instinct
or a boxers instinct.
996
01:13:57,909 --> 01:14:01,713
He had a Myles instinct
that through his,
997
01:14:03,047 --> 01:14:07,552
you know, glass chin
or a soft spot in the belly.
998
01:14:07,585 --> 01:14:10,121
They knew how to find it pretty quick.
999
01:14:10,154 --> 01:14:14,058
The final tour began with Joe,
1000
01:14:14,091 --> 01:14:16,928
listening to the Word Of Mouth album.
1001
01:14:16,961 --> 01:14:19,597
He wanted to wait for
that perfect moment,
1002
01:14:19,631 --> 01:14:21,933
to play the music for Joe.
And he thought
1003
01:14:21,966 --> 01:14:25,970
after lunch flying to Tokyo,
will be the perfect moment.
1004
01:14:26,003 --> 01:14:29,941
Joe takes off the headphone
and I hear him say,
1005
01:14:29,974 --> 01:14:35,046
"Nah, that just sounds like
some typical high school
big bam bullshit."
1006
01:14:35,079 --> 01:14:38,115
That's what Joe said about
Liberty City.
1007
01:14:39,216 --> 01:14:41,185
And I couldn't believe it.
1008
01:14:41,218 --> 01:14:44,155
That was Joe's way of
1009
01:14:44,188 --> 01:14:47,158
slapping down the son,
who's like
1010
01:14:47,959 --> 01:14:50,261
threatening his reign.
1011
01:14:50,294 --> 01:14:52,296
In a sense.
1012
01:14:52,329 --> 01:14:55,099
That fucking music
was on the highest level.
1013
01:14:56,601 --> 01:14:58,903
John and Mary, that...
1014
01:14:58,936 --> 01:15:02,607
Joe would love to write
something like that.
1015
01:15:05,242 --> 01:15:07,211
I think there was a point of
1016
01:15:08,813 --> 01:15:10,782
fear by Joe in
1017
01:15:13,885 --> 01:15:17,822
feeling like the son
had taken over.
1018
01:15:20,357 --> 01:15:21,959
[LAUGHING]
1019
01:15:21,993 --> 01:15:23,928
Where do you wanna go from here?
1020
01:15:23,961 --> 01:15:26,130
I got it, I got it,
I got it, I got it.
1021
01:15:26,163 --> 01:15:28,232
[CYMBALS CRASHING]
1022
01:15:29,667 --> 01:15:32,770
*Ti ri ta ta ta ta
Ta ta ta *
1023
01:15:32,804 --> 01:15:36,340
JACO: In 1982, our men took off
from Weather report.
1024
01:15:36,373 --> 01:15:38,209
We've been together a long time,
1025
01:15:38,242 --> 01:15:42,046
just like anything else,
you gotta have space, too.
1026
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:44,616
Playing in Weather report didn't
allow me any time to do anything
1027
01:15:44,649 --> 01:15:46,083
- on my own.
- Uhm...
1028
01:15:47,752 --> 01:15:51,789
So I said to myself, "Forget it,
Jaco. You gotta get to work."
1029
01:15:51,823 --> 01:15:53,324
And I don't care what Joe thinks about.
1030
01:15:53,357 --> 01:15:56,728
'Cause I know,
I can get the job done, man.
1031
01:15:56,761 --> 01:15:58,129
And that's it.
1032
01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:00,632
[HORN TOOTING]
1033
01:16:03,367 --> 01:16:07,338
Jaco would come up and just
stay with us, crash with us.
1034
01:16:07,371 --> 01:16:09,240
We were just playing in a club.
1035
01:16:09,273 --> 01:16:11,308
And right down where I lived,
1036
01:16:11,342 --> 01:16:14,879
from where I lived
called 55 Grand Street.
1037
01:16:15,913 --> 01:16:18,015
The problem for me,
1038
01:16:18,049 --> 01:16:20,752
at that point was
that I was totally out.
1039
01:16:20,785 --> 01:16:22,887
You know I was really high a lot.
1040
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,623
So much so that Myles, actually
tried to put me in a rehab.
1041
01:16:25,657 --> 01:16:27,324
And when Myles tries
to put you in a rehab,
1042
01:16:27,358 --> 01:16:29,994
you know, you got
a little bit of a Joan.
1043
01:16:30,027 --> 01:16:33,130
And the nick name of 55 Grand,
was 55 gram.
1044
01:16:33,164 --> 01:16:34,966
[LAUGHS]
1045
01:16:34,999 --> 01:16:36,100
Is it that what
you're talking about?
1046
01:16:36,133 --> 01:16:38,169
Yeah, so you know,
you know what, there was,
1047
01:16:38,202 --> 01:16:41,272
there was lot of condiments
flowing through, you know.
1048
01:16:41,305 --> 01:16:44,041
People were doing what they wanted to
do. I mean, there was nothing really
1049
01:16:44,075 --> 01:16:48,412
out in the open, but you know,
if you're there late enough
probably there was.
1050
01:16:48,445 --> 01:16:51,683
I mean, Jaco would hang
for a day, go straight
1051
01:16:51,716 --> 01:16:54,952
through days and days,
never stops hanging.
1052
01:16:54,986 --> 01:17:01,793
[LAUGHS]
It was like dumb asses
just hanging down the street.
1053
01:17:01,826 --> 01:17:05,096
I said,
"Create the Hang Dynasty club."
1054
01:17:05,129 --> 01:17:07,264
So if you hang for three days,
1055
01:17:07,298 --> 01:17:09,133
you'll be a member of this club.
1056
01:17:09,166 --> 01:17:12,970
You know, if you didn't hang
for three days straight,
1057
01:17:13,004 --> 01:17:14,305
you aren't in the club.
1058
01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:17,008
So, everybody passed the test.
1059
01:17:17,041 --> 01:17:18,175
[LAUGHS]
1060
01:17:18,209 --> 01:17:20,177
So we had a band.
1061
01:17:26,984 --> 01:17:30,454
You know, at that point,
that was normal.
1062
01:17:30,487 --> 01:17:34,826
It wasn't that far out
for the musicians.
1063
01:17:34,859 --> 01:17:41,132
But Jaco's playing, became an extension
almost of his behavior off stage.
1064
01:17:41,165 --> 01:17:44,736
Sort of John Belushi kind of man.
1065
01:17:44,769 --> 01:17:47,304
People almost felt
cheated if they didn't,
1066
01:17:47,338 --> 01:17:50,942
you know, well, Jaco really
acted like Jaco tonight.
1067
01:17:50,975 --> 01:17:54,478
They got their money's worth out
of him. But meanwhile, now he's gotta
1068
01:17:54,511 --> 01:17:56,280
be wreck the next day.
1069
01:17:58,816 --> 01:18:01,753
And so I think,
there was some pressure.
1070
01:18:03,454 --> 01:18:08,292
It didn't occur to me, not to be
with him. We were just kinda like
1071
01:18:08,325 --> 01:18:11,963
brothers in a way,
you know we just, we well...
1072
01:18:13,464 --> 01:18:15,933
We were in the same boat.
1073
01:18:15,967 --> 01:18:21,939
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1074
01:18:44,295 --> 01:18:49,733
[JAZZ MUSIC CONTINUES]
1075
01:19:01,412 --> 01:19:06,383
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1076
01:19:08,585 --> 01:19:11,222
He was a cult figure of sorts,
I mean,
1077
01:19:11,255 --> 01:19:13,057
what stuck me at one point was...
1078
01:19:13,090 --> 01:19:17,228
"Man we're playing like an old
Bebop tune from the '40s,"
1079
01:19:17,261 --> 01:19:19,864
for these young people
and they're freaking out
1080
01:19:19,897 --> 01:19:22,934
going crazy and I thought
isn't it fantastic.
1081
01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:28,372
The frustrating thing
to me was,
1082
01:19:28,405 --> 01:19:32,209
this thing was up and running
from note one.
1083
01:19:32,243 --> 01:19:34,178
We sold out, wherever we played.
1084
01:19:34,211 --> 01:19:36,881
And all the luminary
musicians came
1085
01:19:36,914 --> 01:19:40,151
to see what was going on,
you know, it was working.
1086
01:19:40,184 --> 01:19:44,822
It made everybody feel like a
rock star, playing a jazz tour.
1087
01:19:44,856 --> 01:19:47,424
The Japanese adored him,
I mean, we're talking
1088
01:19:47,458 --> 01:19:49,894
20,000 seats.
1089
01:19:49,927 --> 01:19:53,931
There were people, who broke
the bones in their thumbs
1090
01:19:53,965 --> 01:19:57,034
so that they bend the last digit
1091
01:19:57,068 --> 01:19:59,470
of their thumb back like Jaco could.
1092
01:20:00,637 --> 01:20:03,240
I've seen unbelievable things.
1093
01:20:03,274 --> 01:20:05,943
But the things I saw early,
1094
01:20:05,977 --> 01:20:09,546
were the same things
I saw later that knock me up.
1095
01:20:09,580 --> 01:20:11,983
It's his ability
1096
01:20:12,016 --> 01:20:16,453
to communicate music to everyone
including the average person.
1097
01:20:18,990 --> 01:20:23,460
He had tribes of people waiting for
him, in every city that he went to.
1098
01:20:23,494 --> 01:20:28,065
Even if they didn't know
anything about his facility,
1099
01:20:28,099 --> 01:20:32,236
but at the same time
he was leaving Weather Report,
1100
01:20:32,269 --> 01:20:35,006
starting his own career path
1101
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:37,141
with his album
The Word of Mouth band.
1102
01:20:37,174 --> 01:20:40,611
He was essentially
leaving a family.
1103
01:20:44,381 --> 01:20:48,019
Ingrid gave Jaco, these magical twins,
1104
01:20:48,052 --> 01:20:51,956
that he was amazed by.
1105
01:20:51,989 --> 01:20:57,561
The concept of twins was spiritual
and incredible to him.
1106
01:20:57,594 --> 01:21:01,098
And pondering their birth
was astounding to him.
1107
01:21:01,132 --> 01:21:04,969
Unfortunately, that was happening
at the time when he was
1108
01:21:05,002 --> 01:21:07,171
sort of run raveling
and Ingrid, uh,
1109
01:21:09,173 --> 01:21:12,276
being so, after they're born
being so
1110
01:21:13,710 --> 01:21:17,314
protected of, his children
didn't watch Jaco around them
1111
01:21:17,348 --> 01:21:19,316
and so he didn't have
1112
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:21,252
much of a relationship with them.
1113
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,157
'Cause at the time
he was not in a place to
1114
01:21:26,190 --> 01:21:28,592
be responsible parent,
1115
01:21:28,625 --> 01:21:32,029
and that caused some amount of pain.
1116
01:21:32,063 --> 01:21:34,966
I said, "What's happening, man?
What's wrong?"
1117
01:21:34,999 --> 01:21:37,634
And he said,
"You've ever been married?"
1118
01:21:37,668 --> 01:21:40,071
I said, "No."
He said, "You have any kids?"
1119
01:21:40,104 --> 01:21:42,373
I said, "No."
He said, "I can't tell you what's wrong.
1120
01:21:42,406 --> 01:21:45,242
'Cause you wouldn't understand it."
1121
01:21:45,276 --> 01:21:48,645
I guess that was his way of let me
know that there were problems.
1122
01:21:59,290 --> 01:22:02,493
Before the Japan trip,
I go to the airport.
1123
01:22:02,526 --> 01:22:07,264
I turn a corner and here is Jaco.
1124
01:22:07,298 --> 01:22:12,503
And it was the moment which
was driving is that moment
1125
01:22:12,536 --> 01:22:14,505
in the film Taxi Driver,
1126
01:22:14,538 --> 01:22:17,341
when the camera pans
1127
01:22:17,374 --> 01:22:20,211
and then begins to pan up.
1128
01:22:20,244 --> 01:22:23,180
You see the body of De Niro,
you know it's De Niro,
1129
01:22:23,214 --> 01:22:26,683
but then, when you see
the shaved head with a Mohawk...
1130
01:22:26,717 --> 01:22:28,986
I had that same...
1131
01:22:30,021 --> 01:22:32,556
creepy, frightening feeling.
1132
01:22:34,525 --> 01:22:38,195
And I went,
"Hi, Jaco."
1133
01:22:42,733 --> 01:22:47,738
He's got pieces of electrical tape
on his face,
1134
01:22:47,771 --> 01:22:50,074
with the crew cut.
1135
01:22:50,107 --> 01:22:52,409
At some point, he changed into this
1136
01:22:52,443 --> 01:22:55,379
blue Seminole dress.
1137
01:22:55,412 --> 01:22:57,614
And he's walking around the plane
1138
01:22:57,648 --> 01:23:02,519
like he was Sun Ra or something,
one of these mystical elders.
1139
01:23:05,522 --> 01:23:07,691
A lot of musicians were kind of amused.
1140
01:23:07,724 --> 01:23:09,626
They're not quite sure
about the make of it,
1141
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:14,065
those of us who've known him longer
are alarmed.
1142
01:23:14,098 --> 01:23:18,235
Um, and so, there's a balance
of this emperor's new clothing
1143
01:23:18,269 --> 01:23:21,138
and nobody saying anything.
1144
01:23:21,172 --> 01:23:24,375
And we were whispering,
"What do we do?"
1145
01:23:24,408 --> 01:23:26,677
Something definitely is wrong.
1146
01:23:35,486 --> 01:23:38,489
[STRING INSTRUMENT PLAYING]
1147
01:23:48,499 --> 01:23:51,435
Hello,
I'm an electric bass player.
1148
01:23:51,468 --> 01:23:54,605
[LAUGHS]
1149
01:23:54,638 --> 01:23:57,808
Jaco was not doing
so well at that time.
1150
01:23:57,841 --> 01:24:00,177
How's that going?
You got another one?
1151
01:24:00,211 --> 01:24:02,546
Things are not going well.
1152
01:24:02,579 --> 01:24:05,582
What's up in the future for you?
1153
01:24:05,616 --> 01:24:08,119
Well, more records.
1154
01:24:08,152 --> 01:24:09,453
It's champagne, but looks like beer.
1155
01:24:09,486 --> 01:24:13,224
- More records, I'm sure.
- What kinda records?
1156
01:24:13,257 --> 01:24:16,827
Well, we're working
on a new studio album.
1157
01:24:16,860 --> 01:24:21,398
Which album? We are done, bro.
What we gotta do is get it
and mix it.
1158
01:24:21,432 --> 01:24:22,866
[CYMBALS CRASHING]
1159
01:24:22,899 --> 01:24:25,369
There definitely was a feeling
1160
01:24:25,402 --> 01:24:27,604
of uncertainty.
1161
01:24:27,638 --> 01:24:32,443
That never reared its ugly head,
during Word of Mouth.
1162
01:24:33,844 --> 01:24:37,448
Label has zero interest
in the record.
1163
01:24:37,481 --> 01:24:41,452
And I didn't know,
what options he had.
1164
01:24:41,485 --> 01:24:45,222
Do you ever see tapping
of the commercial market.
1165
01:24:45,256 --> 01:24:46,690
We are.
1166
01:24:46,723 --> 01:24:50,627
- I'm commercial.
- Not commercial yet.
1167
01:24:50,661 --> 01:24:54,498
Jaco is very aware, that
he could have easily
just gone pop
1168
01:24:54,531 --> 01:24:56,867
making some
records and "Bam".
1169
01:24:56,900 --> 01:24:59,570
I'm not selling out man.
Hey, man.
1170
01:24:59,603 --> 01:25:01,605
I'm not selling out.
1171
01:25:02,839 --> 01:25:04,341
[LAUGHS]
1172
01:25:04,375 --> 01:25:07,211
You know, we're tapping
the commercial market.
1173
01:25:07,244 --> 01:25:12,283
I mean, are you're referring to
the pop music, top 40 market?
1174
01:25:12,316 --> 01:25:15,319
Well yeah, If they ever come
around and get smart, sure.
1175
01:25:15,352 --> 01:25:16,920
Like Chuck Mangione.
1176
01:25:16,953 --> 01:25:19,156
Impossible, he plays
out of tune.
1177
01:25:19,190 --> 01:25:21,892
Chuck Manicoti, I don't
dig him at all. You know.
1178
01:25:21,925 --> 01:25:25,229
Yeah, that's the man, he's a very
nice cat, he does way too much coke,
1179
01:25:25,262 --> 01:25:27,198
and a mother fucker.
1180
01:25:27,231 --> 01:25:29,900
He eats too much pasta
and fuck him, he wears a hat.
1181
01:25:29,933 --> 01:25:32,369
[LAUGHING]
1182
01:25:32,403 --> 01:25:35,539
When he was in the midst of
recording for Holiday for Pans.
1183
01:25:35,572 --> 01:25:39,343
The Warner Brothers decided to
1184
01:25:39,376 --> 01:25:43,214
rip up, literally rip up,
Jaco's contract.
1185
01:25:43,247 --> 01:25:44,715
It was like a huge rejection.
1186
01:25:44,748 --> 01:25:47,684
He knew that he was on to
something really special.
1187
01:25:47,718 --> 01:25:50,387
He just continue
this downward spiral.
1188
01:25:51,822 --> 01:25:53,257
People didn't understand
1189
01:25:53,290 --> 01:25:56,227
there were forces and conditions
and beyond his control,
1190
01:25:56,260 --> 01:25:58,295
that were grabbing hold.
1191
01:25:58,329 --> 01:26:02,499
And it was too easy to just
describe to substances.
1192
01:26:07,438 --> 01:26:11,174
[SIREN WAILING]
1193
01:26:15,379 --> 01:26:17,548
[BEEP]
Hey dad. It's Jaco.
1194
01:26:17,581 --> 01:26:18,715
You there?
1195
01:26:18,749 --> 01:26:19,783
Hey.
1196
01:26:19,816 --> 01:26:21,852
- Daddy!
- Yeah.
1197
01:26:21,885 --> 01:26:23,820
So nice.
1198
01:26:23,854 --> 01:26:25,689
I don't know,
I haven't heard from you.
1199
01:26:26,357 --> 01:26:27,558
Where you at?
1200
01:26:27,591 --> 01:26:30,694
- New York City.
- Where at?
1201
01:26:30,727 --> 01:26:32,696
Well, we're here. Jame's house.
1202
01:26:32,729 --> 01:26:34,831
Well, I called there last week.
1203
01:26:34,865 --> 01:26:35,966
Daddy!
1204
01:26:35,999 --> 01:26:40,404
- Sorry... [MUFFLED]
- Nobody answered.
1205
01:26:40,437 --> 01:26:43,206
- Can I tell you one thing.
- What's that?
1206
01:26:45,008 --> 01:26:46,443
Who loves you?
1207
01:26:47,711 --> 01:26:49,613
Who loves you, kid?
1208
01:26:56,953 --> 01:26:58,922
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1209
01:27:10,334 --> 01:27:12,603
Look, things happen whether
people are good or bad.
1210
01:27:12,636 --> 01:27:16,707
It's always the convergence
of many elements or components
1211
01:27:16,740 --> 01:27:18,975
coming up together.
1212
01:27:19,009 --> 01:27:21,512
You know, it takes
fore fingers to the thumb
1213
01:27:21,545 --> 01:27:23,380
to make that solid.
1214
01:27:23,414 --> 01:27:25,282
But you need to make impact.
1215
01:27:25,316 --> 01:27:28,952
Or to make stranglehold.
1216
01:27:31,855 --> 01:27:34,591
He's like at this video,
they want me to do this video.
1217
01:27:34,625 --> 01:27:37,594
I told them I wasn't gonna do this
with out you. But we gonna do this.
1218
01:27:37,628 --> 01:27:39,029
And he was in bad shape.
1219
01:27:39,062 --> 01:27:41,398
But he was so real and then
he wanted to leave some thing.
1220
01:27:41,432 --> 01:27:43,066
I don't know if somethings
gonna happen to him,
1221
01:27:43,099 --> 01:27:44,801
but it was in the forefront
1222
01:27:44,835 --> 01:27:46,837
of his mind to help other musicians.
1223
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:49,072
To help leave something for kiddies.
1224
01:27:49,105 --> 01:27:51,642
Um, that's what he wanted to do.
1225
01:27:51,675 --> 01:27:56,447
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1226
01:27:58,382 --> 01:27:59,983
Be p-ba-be-bop-boo.
What you do?
1227
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,555
Yeah.
1228
01:28:08,992 --> 01:28:10,694
- Okay.
- Way better something like that.
1229
01:28:10,727 --> 01:28:12,929
That's better than I do.
1230
01:28:12,963 --> 01:28:14,898
Any advice to musicians.
1231
01:28:14,931 --> 01:28:17,534
Young and old. New, beginners.
1232
01:28:19,836 --> 01:28:21,572
Just your minds open.
1233
01:28:21,605 --> 01:28:24,841
Keep an open head about music.
1234
01:28:24,875 --> 01:28:27,711
When I first came to New York,
everybody just wanted to play Jazz.
1235
01:28:27,744 --> 01:28:29,780
They didn't know about rock and roll.
1236
01:28:29,813 --> 01:28:31,782
They didn't know about funk.
They didn't know about nothing.
1237
01:28:31,815 --> 01:28:33,617
All they wanted to do is Jazz.
1238
01:28:33,650 --> 01:28:35,986
Now New York is cool.
They're playing everything.
1239
01:28:36,019 --> 01:28:40,056
Where I grew up, in Florida,
everything was here.
1240
01:28:40,090 --> 01:28:45,095
So I was fortunate enough to be
exposed and be able to play all
different types of musicians.
1241
01:28:45,128 --> 01:28:47,464
I played in a country band
for an year, I had a ball.
1242
01:28:47,498 --> 01:28:50,701
I love country, western, too,
if it's was good. I dig it.
1243
01:28:50,734 --> 01:28:53,537
Whatever it is, just keep
an open mind about everything.
1244
01:28:53,570 --> 01:28:55,105
That's my own advice.
1245
01:28:55,138 --> 01:28:57,974
- And keep listening.
- Beautiful.
1246
01:28:58,008 --> 01:28:59,643
Keep your ears open.
1247
01:29:02,913 --> 01:29:05,582
You have to support your music
or your art with your life.
1248
01:29:05,616 --> 01:29:07,451
And how they intertwine...
1249
01:29:07,484 --> 01:29:11,655
If your life doesn't
have enough stability,
1250
01:29:11,688 --> 01:29:13,424
then your art is gonna suffer.
1251
01:29:13,457 --> 01:29:15,592
You're not gonna be able to get
those tomatoes to the market.
1252
01:29:15,626 --> 01:29:18,762
If you have a flat tire,
you're gonna be on
the side of the highway.
1253
01:29:18,795 --> 01:29:22,433
Um, so he was in that kind of...
1254
01:29:22,466 --> 01:29:24,968
Stage where this was going on.
1255
01:29:26,202 --> 01:29:30,641
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1256
01:29:57,901 --> 01:30:00,437
[HORN TOOTING]
1257
01:30:02,072 --> 01:30:03,707
[BEEP]
1258
01:30:03,740 --> 01:30:06,943
Hi, Jack, I'm sorry for calling
so early, but this is Carey.
1259
01:30:06,977 --> 01:30:09,546
And I just saw Jaco on the street.
1260
01:30:09,580 --> 01:30:11,982
And he's doing some crazy things.
1261
01:30:12,015 --> 01:30:15,118
I don't want to tell you this, but
he needs some sort of help again.
1262
01:30:15,151 --> 01:30:18,489
He almost got himself killed
by somebody a little while ago.
1263
01:30:18,522 --> 01:30:21,692
So I just don't know
what to tell you, you know.
1264
01:30:21,725 --> 01:30:23,727
I hope you could help.
1265
01:30:28,732 --> 01:30:30,366
Between the street door
1266
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:35,138
and our security door inside, there
was a little six foot space.
1267
01:30:35,171 --> 01:30:37,774
Some mornings he'll
be there waiting for us.
1268
01:30:37,808 --> 01:30:39,943
Obviously he's been up
from the night before,
1269
01:30:39,976 --> 01:30:42,479
and he knew it was a safe place.
1270
01:30:42,513 --> 01:30:45,148
[DRUMS BEATING]
1271
01:30:48,819 --> 01:30:50,987
He was comfortable here because
1272
01:30:51,021 --> 01:30:54,725
he was around musicians.
1273
01:30:54,758 --> 01:30:56,893
Saying, "Hey, let me show
you something on my drums"
1274
01:30:56,927 --> 01:30:59,496
or, "Let me show you something
I'm working on the piano."
1275
01:30:59,530 --> 01:31:01,231
Come here check this out."
1276
01:31:01,264 --> 01:31:04,535
Here's something I wrote, you know,
Weather Report never recorded.
1277
01:31:06,870 --> 01:31:11,675
He would kind of jolt
and say, "Man, you know why",
1278
01:31:11,708 --> 01:31:14,678
"why is this or how could
this be for this guy that was
1279
01:31:14,711 --> 01:31:16,713
"on top of the world
1280
01:31:16,747 --> 01:31:18,582
"and reinvented the instrument
1281
01:31:18,615 --> 01:31:22,919
and left such a strong mark on music."
1282
01:31:24,187 --> 01:31:26,690
[SIREN WAILING]
1283
01:31:32,863 --> 01:31:37,901
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1284
01:31:45,008 --> 01:31:46,877
The senior in my band, Anthony,
1285
01:31:46,910 --> 01:31:48,679
they were walking down
a street in New York,
1286
01:31:48,712 --> 01:31:51,281
and they saw Jaco,
sitting on the sidewalk.
1287
01:31:51,314 --> 01:31:54,685
And they were like,
"It's Jaco Pastorius,
1288
01:31:54,718 --> 01:31:58,054
sitting on the sidewalk drunk,
playing Louie Louie for change."
1289
01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:10,901
* When Charlie Speaks of lustre
1290
01:32:10,934 --> 01:32:12,636
* You know someone...
1291
01:32:12,669 --> 01:32:16,272
I went to an art opening in Soho.
1292
01:32:16,306 --> 01:32:21,211
And when we came out there was a
little club across the street
with a cardboard
1293
01:32:21,244 --> 01:32:24,781
signed magic marker said,
"Jaco Pastorius tonight."
1294
01:32:28,284 --> 01:32:31,888
So I went in and I
found him at the bar.
1295
01:32:34,691 --> 01:32:39,029
He sure cheated me,
he asked me to jam with him,
1296
01:32:39,062 --> 01:32:42,098
but he trailed the cord
of the microphone
1297
01:32:42,132 --> 01:32:45,802
over the keyboard
so that it got in my way.
1298
01:32:45,836 --> 01:32:47,971
And I flip it off while I'm playing,
1299
01:32:48,004 --> 01:32:49,873
and he would flip it back on.
1300
01:32:49,906 --> 01:32:52,042
And he was playing
way out the chord.
1301
01:32:52,075 --> 01:32:54,077
You know, it was,
1302
01:32:54,110 --> 01:32:58,048
not good, nothing was
good about it at all, it was,
1303
01:32:58,682 --> 01:32:59,683
you know...
1304
01:33:01,117 --> 01:33:05,856
You know, when he was
kind of praising me too much...
1305
01:33:05,889 --> 01:33:08,158
You know what I mean, like,
1306
01:33:08,191 --> 01:33:11,394
and then, sure cheating me
too much, it was very
1307
01:33:11,427 --> 01:33:14,631
skitsy behavior, you know.
1308
01:33:14,665 --> 01:33:17,233
And that's the last I saw of him.
1309
01:33:25,208 --> 01:33:29,012
DR. KENNETH: In July of 1986,
I committed him to Bellevue.
1310
01:33:34,250 --> 01:33:36,286
Jaco was in the hospital
for seven weeks.
1311
01:33:36,319 --> 01:33:40,090
He was admitted in late July and
discharged in about mid September.
1312
01:33:40,123 --> 01:33:42,893
This is almost exactly 25 years ago.
1313
01:33:45,328 --> 01:33:46,930
When he came in,
1314
01:33:46,963 --> 01:33:51,067
there was this grandiosity and
kind of oppositional behavior.
1315
01:33:51,101 --> 01:33:53,169
And he was certainly
in danger of provoking
1316
01:33:53,203 --> 01:33:55,872
somebody that could
be dangerous to him.
1317
01:33:57,908 --> 01:34:01,812
And this sort of
scaled down over weeks.
1318
01:34:01,845 --> 01:34:03,847
While he was on the unit,
1319
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,817
he was very engaged
1320
01:34:06,850 --> 01:34:10,787
with other patients. He could
reach other patients in ways
that other people couldn't.
1321
01:34:10,821 --> 01:34:14,190
I recall, there was this woman there,
very psychotic patient,
1322
01:34:14,224 --> 01:34:16,960
who had cut herself,
1323
01:34:16,993 --> 01:34:20,797
all over the body
in response to some delusion.
1324
01:34:20,831 --> 01:34:23,800
And she was very withdrawn
and very inaccessible,
1325
01:34:23,834 --> 01:34:25,769
and Jaco really reached her,
1326
01:34:25,802 --> 01:34:30,206
in terms of making some kind
of connection, some kind
of contact with her.
1327
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,743
Jaco had that capability.
1328
01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:38,214
[PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
1329
01:34:41,151 --> 01:34:44,120
His diagnosis was bipolar disorder.
1330
01:34:46,222 --> 01:34:48,792
The classical form
of bipolar disorder,
1331
01:34:48,825 --> 01:34:51,127
is weeks to months of depression.
1332
01:34:51,161 --> 01:34:54,197
And days to weeks of mania.
1333
01:34:54,230 --> 01:34:59,002
Jaco, had what you'd call either
rapid cycling or mixed state.
1334
01:34:59,035 --> 01:35:01,838
Where the features
of mania and depression
1335
01:35:01,872 --> 01:35:04,775
alternated rapidly
or mixed with one another.
1336
01:35:09,012 --> 01:35:12,148
That interacted with
the exposure to alcohol.
1337
01:35:12,182 --> 01:35:16,920
He was not at the point where
he looked like just another
drug using musician.
1338
01:35:16,953 --> 01:35:19,022
It was not like that.
1339
01:35:24,060 --> 01:35:27,931
Who is to say that
the chemical imbalance
1340
01:35:27,964 --> 01:35:32,235
is a fault of nature?
1341
01:35:32,268 --> 01:35:37,908
It could be that
the chemical imbalance ushers
1342
01:35:37,941 --> 01:35:42,045
in action, that would not
have been taken
1343
01:35:42,078 --> 01:35:45,081
if you're living without it.
1344
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,823
He was an explorer.
1345
01:35:54,424 --> 01:35:56,927
I see him in an image of Jaco,
1346
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,931
like Johnny Parker,
Coltrane, Myles.
1347
01:36:00,964 --> 01:36:05,068
It's the same thing
I saw in the comic books.
1348
01:36:05,969 --> 01:36:07,470
Superheros.
1349
01:36:40,036 --> 01:36:42,438
[WAVES SPLASHING]
1350
01:36:42,472 --> 01:36:45,141
OPERATOR: Hallo, collect
to Jack from Jaco.
1351
01:36:46,509 --> 01:36:48,311
Hey dad, it's Jaco.
1352
01:36:48,344 --> 01:36:49,545
Yeah.
1353
01:36:53,383 --> 01:36:55,351
Live and loud, in Florida.
1354
01:36:56,652 --> 01:36:58,254
Love you.
1355
01:36:59,389 --> 01:37:01,925
[WIND BLOWING]
1356
01:37:07,397 --> 01:37:11,034
Jaco, returned to Florida,
1357
01:37:11,067 --> 01:37:13,336
after he was treated.
1358
01:37:13,369 --> 01:37:17,373
He was intermittently compiled with
the medication that's not unusual.
1359
01:37:23,113 --> 01:37:25,081
He was going through a phase
1360
01:37:25,115 --> 01:37:27,650
that a lot of bipolar
patients go through.
1361
01:37:27,683 --> 01:37:29,886
And that's why they're ambivalent
about their treatment.
1362
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,821
And struggling with
accepting the illness.
1363
01:37:31,854 --> 01:37:36,859
And that's what was going on
in the year after he was
discharged from Bellevue.
1364
01:37:55,211 --> 01:37:56,212
One day,
1365
01:37:57,513 --> 01:37:59,115
I look up and it's daddy.
1366
01:37:59,449 --> 01:38:01,617
And,
1367
01:38:01,651 --> 01:38:05,288
he doesn't have a base,
I don't think he had a shirt on.
1368
01:38:05,321 --> 01:38:08,558
And he's hanging out
with some fellows.
1369
01:38:08,591 --> 01:38:13,896
I assume they were hanging out
here, too, to whatever degree.
1370
01:38:16,232 --> 01:38:18,401
He had an acoustic guitar.
1371
01:38:18,434 --> 01:38:21,637
He had some albums,
you know, some of his albums.
1372
01:38:21,671 --> 01:38:25,075
And I realize that,
"Man, he's hanging out here."
1373
01:38:26,309 --> 01:38:28,244
I mean, he could have
stayed anywhere.
1374
01:38:28,278 --> 01:38:31,347
The thought of,
my dad, Jaco Pastorius,
1375
01:38:31,381 --> 01:38:35,118
sleeping in a park is absurd.
1376
01:38:35,151 --> 01:38:38,554
And I don't think we'll
ever know exactly why.
1377
01:38:43,626 --> 01:38:47,563
He was in a constant state
of motion, at all times.
1378
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,004
He was like trying to grab
a cloud or a wind.
1379
01:38:56,039 --> 01:38:59,475
One day he would've choosed
to get better.
1380
01:38:59,509 --> 01:39:02,945
But that choice was
taken away from him.
1381
01:39:05,581 --> 01:39:08,284
He didn't die on the streets,
1382
01:39:08,318 --> 01:39:10,620
from a blown out liver,
1383
01:39:10,653 --> 01:39:12,722
or a heart attack or anything.
He was killed.
1384
01:39:16,492 --> 01:39:18,628
The song is called
Mr. Pastorius, it's on your
1385
01:39:18,661 --> 01:39:21,331
last album Amandla, right?
1386
01:39:23,399 --> 01:39:28,171
[MR. PASTORIUS PLAYING]
1387
01:39:59,635 --> 01:40:03,173
I remember, he came to a gig,
I had in Fort Lauderdale.
1388
01:40:03,206 --> 01:40:06,342
And the owner ran out,
1389
01:40:06,376 --> 01:40:08,678
and said, "I'm gonna call
the cops, right now."
1390
01:40:08,711 --> 01:40:13,049
And Jaco hadn't done anything.
All he did was he just walk
into the restaurant.
1391
01:40:13,083 --> 01:40:17,420
And so I told the band leader,
I said, "Look, that's my brother."
1392
01:40:17,453 --> 01:40:20,523
"I have to take him home.
I can't let him go to jail."
1393
01:40:20,556 --> 01:40:23,159
I put his sticks down.
Got up, got my car keys,
1394
01:40:23,193 --> 01:40:27,230
I got Jaco, and I said,
"Come on man, let's go."
1395
01:40:27,263 --> 01:40:28,698
So we get in my car.
1396
01:40:28,731 --> 01:40:31,101
I said,
"Okay, where do you live?"
1397
01:40:31,134 --> 01:40:34,237
and he says, "In the park."
1398
01:40:34,270 --> 01:40:36,739
And I said,
"what? In the Park?"
1399
01:40:36,772 --> 01:40:40,076
"Yeah, I live in the park.
Just take me to the park."
1400
01:40:40,110 --> 01:40:41,544
So we're driving in the park,
1401
01:40:41,577 --> 01:40:44,080
then he grabs my hand,
he starts crying.
1402
01:40:44,114 --> 01:40:48,718
Then I said,"What's wrong man."
He goes, "I don't wanna
be here any more."
1403
01:40:48,751 --> 01:40:51,487
And I said, "What do you
mean by that, Jaco?"
1404
01:40:51,521 --> 01:40:54,324
"I don't wanna
be here man, I've had it."
1405
01:40:56,126 --> 01:41:00,496
[TRUMPET PLAYING]
1406
01:41:06,669 --> 01:41:10,340
[THUNDER RUMBLING]
1407
01:41:12,708 --> 01:41:13,743
[BEEP]
1408
01:41:58,754 --> 01:42:05,195
[THUNDER RUMBLING]
1409
01:42:16,206 --> 01:42:18,441
That night he went to see his hero,
1410
01:42:18,474 --> 01:42:20,343
Carlos Santana.
1411
01:42:20,376 --> 01:42:23,413
And the incident happened.
1412
01:42:23,446 --> 01:42:27,450
I found about it very quick
because my ex-girlfriend,
1413
01:42:27,483 --> 01:42:32,722
dated one of those assholes
that beat him to coma.
1414
01:42:32,755 --> 01:42:35,658
And this was pretty tough,
very tough
1415
01:42:36,459 --> 01:42:38,394
for me to hear.
1416
01:42:38,428 --> 01:42:42,765
And, it was very sad. I remember,
1417
01:42:43,799 --> 01:42:45,435
at the funeral.
1418
01:42:46,602 --> 01:42:49,339
The boys.
1419
01:42:49,372 --> 01:42:52,675
Ingrid, looked at me
and she just walked away.
She couldn't take it.
1420
01:42:52,708 --> 01:42:55,378
Everybody was walking
away at the end
1421
01:42:55,411 --> 01:42:57,380
of the funeral, man.
1422
01:42:57,413 --> 01:43:00,683
Julius and Felix,
they are looking at me.
1423
01:43:00,716 --> 01:43:02,818
They said, "Uncle Bobby",
1424
01:43:02,852 --> 01:43:05,588
when daddy Jaco's gonna
jump out of the box?"
1425
01:43:05,621 --> 01:43:10,226
And man, I remember,
it took like 20 minutes,
1426
01:43:10,260 --> 01:43:12,728
talking to them to let them know that,
1427
01:43:12,762 --> 01:43:16,666
"Daddy Jaco's is with the angels now,
he's not gonna jump out of the box."
1428
01:43:19,435 --> 01:43:21,537
Just thinking about what he has said,
1429
01:43:21,571 --> 01:43:24,674
and then watching
his life unfold after that.
1430
01:43:24,707 --> 01:43:27,443
Everything he said, came to pass.
1431
01:43:29,945 --> 01:43:32,982
Not too long, afterwards
I was flying in Italy,
1432
01:43:34,750 --> 01:43:35,985
after the concert,
1433
01:43:36,018 --> 01:43:38,488
you know, got on
to the front of the stage.
1434
01:43:38,521 --> 01:43:41,557
Meet some fans. I went to
the stage right where there's
1435
01:43:41,591 --> 01:43:43,726
a stairway that's lead off the stage,
1436
01:43:43,759 --> 01:43:47,263
and I started to go halfway down,
to say hello to someone, I think,
1437
01:43:47,297 --> 01:43:49,532
this fan came up to me.
1438
01:43:49,565 --> 01:43:52,268
Very emotional.
1439
01:43:52,302 --> 01:43:54,570
Just said, "How could you do this?
1440
01:43:54,604 --> 01:43:57,373
How could all of you let this happen?"
1441
01:44:00,976 --> 01:44:04,714
I said,
"Well, we all tried to help and..."
1442
01:44:04,747 --> 01:44:06,916
There wasn't good enough
answer for him.
1443
01:44:08,017 --> 01:44:09,018
You know.
1444
01:44:10,486 --> 01:44:16,492
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1445
01:44:51,361 --> 01:44:52,695
JONAS:
We're influenced by life.
1446
01:44:52,728 --> 01:44:56,098
Whether we like it or not.
It's not necessarily music.
1447
01:44:56,131 --> 01:44:58,067
That makes us play a certain way.
1448
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:00,736
It's the life we live.
It's our experiences.
1449
01:45:00,770 --> 01:45:02,805
It's our upbringing. It's what we
1450
01:45:02,838 --> 01:45:05,408
experienced as kids
before we were even
1451
01:45:05,441 --> 01:45:07,810
really conscious about
our own personality,
1452
01:45:07,843 --> 01:45:11,381
or what we are or what
we wanna do with life.
1453
01:45:11,414 --> 01:45:15,084
That's the stuff, that torment that
go inside us.
1454
01:45:15,117 --> 01:45:17,753
That is what comes out in music.
1455
01:45:17,787 --> 01:45:19,955
Everybody gets their own burden, man.
1456
01:45:19,989 --> 01:45:21,924
Everyone gets their own
special beating in life,
1457
01:45:21,957 --> 01:45:23,726
you know what I mean?
1458
01:45:23,759 --> 01:45:27,363
He just took this energy and he
turned it into, what he turned it into.
1459
01:45:27,397 --> 01:45:30,132
You feel it in every note,
you feel his nervous system.
1460
01:45:30,165 --> 01:45:32,568
You feel his joy,
you feel his neurosis,
1461
01:45:32,602 --> 01:45:34,904
you feel his suffering,
you feel it all.
1462
01:45:36,071 --> 01:45:39,442
Where do you go after Jaco.
1463
01:45:39,475 --> 01:45:41,076
It's not too much more
1464
01:45:41,110 --> 01:45:44,814
soul and feeling,
and vibe.
1465
01:45:44,847 --> 01:45:48,418
You know, that are original stuff.
1466
01:45:48,451 --> 01:45:50,920
There's not too much
you can do with that.
1467
01:46:12,508 --> 01:46:17,079
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1468
01:46:19,649 --> 01:46:21,417
Where's he at?
1469
01:46:21,451 --> 01:46:23,819
Usually right next to
Johnny Parker.
1470
01:46:23,853 --> 01:46:25,721
How do you spell Pastorius again?
1471
01:46:25,755 --> 01:46:27,890
Capital "P" as in...
1472
01:46:28,624 --> 01:46:30,960
That is, uh... Ha...
1473
01:46:30,993 --> 01:46:33,829
The Music's just
a byproduct of his life, man.
1474
01:46:33,863 --> 01:46:37,600
And you can hear his sound every day.
1475
01:46:37,633 --> 01:46:40,570
Be it, Sting for the Police
or Flea from the Chili Peppers.
1476
01:46:40,603 --> 01:46:42,538
It's amazing, how many people
1477
01:46:42,572 --> 01:46:44,807
are so close to his music.
1478
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,210
And are so,
appreciative of what he gave.
1479
01:46:48,243 --> 01:46:50,179
In a short amount of time.
1480
01:46:50,212 --> 01:46:51,881
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1481
01:46:51,914 --> 01:46:57,520
It is an honor to play here,
in the Yankee stadium,
New York City.
1482
01:46:57,553 --> 01:47:01,691
Thank you, for coming here
and supporting heavy music.
1483
01:47:03,092 --> 01:47:07,930
[FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS PLAYING]
1484
01:47:27,583 --> 01:47:31,220
I had the good fortune of seeing,
Jaco play four times.
1485
01:47:31,253 --> 01:47:33,789
It was an amazing moment for me.
1486
01:47:33,823 --> 01:47:36,559
Jaco, to me, was punk rock, you know.
1487
01:47:36,592 --> 01:47:38,460
He was fearless.
1488
01:47:38,494 --> 01:47:43,265
You know, you can try and label him
as your own and say,
"Jaco is pure Jazz."
1489
01:47:43,298 --> 01:47:46,836
But there are some Jazz musicians
that are punk rock.
1490
01:47:53,576 --> 01:47:56,646
All of us stand on Jaco's shoulders.
1491
01:47:56,679 --> 01:48:01,751
No one could have missed
that section of DNA out.
1492
01:48:01,784 --> 01:48:05,120
You know, you needed Jaco,
to get to this point.
1493
01:48:07,222 --> 01:48:09,959
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1494
01:48:14,029 --> 01:48:17,933
The things that I know that
he's written blow my mind.
1495
01:48:19,034 --> 01:48:22,237
And no small part has influenced me,
1496
01:48:22,271 --> 01:48:26,576
in a way, especially the way, I
put together the instrumental songs.
1497
01:48:29,745 --> 01:48:34,049
Whatever the genre can take,
the genre can take.
1498
01:48:34,083 --> 01:48:37,787
So stretch it, pull it,
bend it, it won't break it.
1499
01:48:44,727 --> 01:48:47,029
I just remember him being amazing,
I remember the back flip,
1500
01:48:47,062 --> 01:48:49,665
I remember the great bass playing,
I remember just thinking,
1501
01:48:49,699 --> 01:48:53,002
this is what it's all about.
This is what I aspire to.
1502
01:48:53,035 --> 01:48:56,338
[BY THE WAY PLAYING]
1503
01:48:56,371 --> 01:48:58,941
He's the greatest
electric bass player to ever play.
1504
01:48:58,974 --> 01:49:00,976
There's nothing else like it.
1505
01:49:01,010 --> 01:49:03,913
I mean, I'm thinking, am I missing
anyone as if I'm missing something.
1506
01:49:03,946 --> 01:49:07,016
Is there anything close
to it on the note, on the bass.
1507
01:49:07,950 --> 01:49:09,151
Not to me, man.
1508
01:49:13,923 --> 01:49:15,758
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1509
01:49:23,866 --> 01:49:24,967
MAN: Come on, Jaco.
1510
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,003
One, two, three, four.
1511
01:49:36,378 --> 01:49:39,214
One, two, three, four.
1512
01:49:40,816 --> 01:49:41,817
Right.
1513
01:49:42,985 --> 01:49:44,253
[LAUGHS]
1514
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:49,759
MAN: Jaco has no idea.
1515
01:49:49,792 --> 01:49:52,361
Ooh, bad...
1516
01:49:52,394 --> 01:49:55,765
Two in a row, not bad. Very good.
1517
01:49:55,798 --> 01:49:57,232
You won't believe this,
1518
01:49:57,266 --> 01:49:59,401
Jaco is playing in this club,
1519
01:49:59,434 --> 01:50:02,004
he walked down the stage
balancing his bass
1520
01:50:02,037 --> 01:50:03,272
in one hand.
1521
01:50:03,305 --> 01:50:05,340
And everybody
was holla and screaming.
1522
01:50:05,374 --> 01:50:07,843
He's balanced it
all the way up to the stage,
1523
01:50:07,877 --> 01:50:10,946
as the other guy played, took the
cord out and started playing.
1524
01:50:10,980 --> 01:50:14,950
I said, "No." He was like a Roman God.
1525
01:50:14,984 --> 01:50:18,153
He has these boots, man,
these boots up to here.
1526
01:50:18,187 --> 01:50:21,423
And then he put a lot
of talcum powder in it.
1527
01:50:21,456 --> 01:50:24,093
I mean a lot.
1528
01:50:24,126 --> 01:50:26,729
He walks up to the stage
and borrowed the bass
1529
01:50:26,762 --> 01:50:29,799
from Rocco.
He just played his ass off.
1530
01:50:29,832 --> 01:50:33,102
And after he finished,
he started building,
building, building...
1531
01:50:33,135 --> 01:50:37,406
Then he jumps and when he jumps
all the talcum powder went
[BLOWS RASPBERRIES] like that.
1532
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,441
So it was like a magic trick.
1533
01:50:39,474 --> 01:50:42,044
We were cracking...
I said, "This guy is out of his mind."
1534
01:50:42,077 --> 01:50:45,280
They ask me, what is it like
to play with Jaco.
1535
01:50:45,314 --> 01:50:48,851
I came up with a description one time.
1536
01:50:48,884 --> 01:50:52,722
Kind of like jumping out of an
airplane, naked at night on an LSD.
1537
01:50:52,755 --> 01:50:55,958
Something like that.
1538
01:50:55,991 --> 01:50:59,394
It was exiting, you know
it's like "Wow!" It's a ride.
1539
01:50:59,428 --> 01:51:00,830
With a parachute.
1540
01:51:00,863 --> 01:51:02,464
I would wake up and go,
"What's going on?"
1541
01:51:02,497 --> 01:51:06,201
And he said this is not a normal
thing, please, it's just...
1542
01:51:06,235 --> 01:51:09,171
You just back off or let us be.
1543
01:51:09,204 --> 01:51:11,707
'Cause it's gonna happen every day.
1544
01:51:11,741 --> 01:51:15,911
This is like Charlie Parker
walked in the house.
1545
01:51:15,945 --> 01:51:18,247
This is terrible,
'cause this is very heavy.
1546
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,350
Even now, I can't play
the bass a little bit.
1547
01:51:21,383 --> 01:51:24,854
I still cannot articulate
like he does.
1548
01:51:24,887 --> 01:51:27,122
Every single note.
1549
01:51:27,156 --> 01:51:30,359
Everything is so perfectly executed.
1550
01:51:30,392 --> 01:51:33,729
When Jaco plays,
it sounds like he knows
1551
01:51:33,763 --> 01:51:35,931
every single note he's playing.
There's no way
1552
01:51:35,965 --> 01:51:39,101
that he can play a wrong note.
And it's fretless.
1553
01:51:40,069 --> 01:51:42,471
So fuck that guy.
Big time.
1554
01:51:42,504 --> 01:51:49,078
We were playing at his house one time,
and he was playing drums.
Tk-tss... Tk-tss...
1555
01:51:49,111 --> 01:51:52,181
You know, he starts
playing the Teen Town beat.
1556
01:51:52,214 --> 01:51:55,084
And he says,
"Let's play Teen Town.
1557
01:51:55,885 --> 01:51:57,820
And I said, "Jaco",
1558
01:51:59,054 --> 01:52:02,157
I don't know Teen Town."
1559
01:52:02,191 --> 01:52:06,195
He looked at me and said,
"You don't know Teen Town?"
1560
01:52:06,228 --> 01:52:11,767
And I said, "No, I don't know
any of your songs."
1561
01:52:11,801 --> 01:52:15,037
And there was this pregnant pause.
And he
1562
01:52:15,070 --> 01:52:18,974
loomed up out of the drum stool.
1563
01:52:19,008 --> 01:52:22,544
And he was so much taller than me
and I'm standing up.
And he's like, I'm thinking,
1564
01:52:22,577 --> 01:52:27,282
Oh, my God. I'm about to get my ass
whipped because I don't know Teen Town.
1565
01:52:30,352 --> 01:52:33,222
A lot of us bass players,
can't get beyond the bass.
1566
01:52:33,255 --> 01:52:35,357
We're playing the music
that's on the bass.
1567
01:52:35,390 --> 01:52:37,259
He was playing music
that was in the air.
1568
01:52:37,292 --> 01:52:39,294
The music that was in his body.
1569
01:55:33,468 --> 01:55:35,404
I found it was love.
1570
01:55:35,437 --> 01:55:36,638
This one's for Jaco.
1571
01:55:39,774 --> 01:55:41,476
* Oh, yeah
1572
01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:43,445
* I feel you JP
Let's go!
1573
01:55:43,478 --> 01:55:46,048
* Been at the bottom but then
I got back up to this ring
1574
01:55:46,081 --> 01:55:47,649
* And I beat 'em up 'cause
I never been an average
1575
01:55:47,682 --> 01:55:49,584
* Of flicking and I need to
Get up and pin this thing
1576
01:55:49,618 --> 01:55:51,520
* With all the fault and
I don't know what the matter is
1577
01:55:51,553 --> 01:55:53,522
* I'm packing my bag
To see whose fault
1578
01:55:53,555 --> 01:55:56,258
* I'm harass and blast
The people trying bury my class
And grass the Bebop
1579
01:55:56,291 --> 01:55:58,127
* But I'm the last
To see dope
1580
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,695
* But I'm a bit weak and low
The people who back like
A freak show when he
1581
01:56:00,729 --> 01:56:04,099
* Shows magazine troll
By all means souls so we grow
1582
01:56:04,133 --> 01:56:06,135
* Just pass the lead yo
1583
01:56:06,168 --> 01:56:08,603
* After all my angel
Bet to pay to
1584
01:56:08,637 --> 01:56:11,240
* Love but I woke up quick
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