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This programme contains
some strong language
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What did I want to be when
I grew up? I wanted to be adored.
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# Please, please tell me now
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# Is there something
I should know? #
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I was just, like,
perpetually excited.
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1981, it was just so much fun.
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That's what New Romantic was,
wearing that on the 50 bus.
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What teenage girl
didn't have a crush
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on every single guy in that band?
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There's one person who
threw three bras onstage.
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And two pairs of knickers,
I thought,
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"She's definitely not
wearing any underwear now!"
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Every time you tried to move,
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there'd be 200 teenage girls
trying to rip you apart.
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# Girls on film. #
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Duran Duran is my life.
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Waiting for them outside of BBC,
they never noticed me.
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Nobody really wanted to give me
credit for the fact
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that everybody
was a great musician.
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I feel like Duran Duran
is my second band.
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# Her name is Rio... #
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The demands on us had become absurd.
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It's like one of those
rat wheels isn't it?
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And you've just got to be king rats
sometimes and say, "Bollocks,
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I'm jumping off."
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The atmosphere was completely toxic.
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We just had a few years of,
"'80s band, '80s band."
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I think they just saw the boat going
the other way down the river
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with all their money on it.
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Imagine to be in a band
like Duran Duran
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and have the career
that they've had.
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That's like the ultimate dream.
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# No-no notorious. #
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MUSIC: Planet Earth
by Duran Duran
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For me, all of our albums define
different stages in our career.
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The first album was our game plan.
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# Only came outside to watch
the night fall with the rain... #
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The way we are on that first album,
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we're all playing
the best that we could play.
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We're all just playing
every note we know.
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Planet Earth was the energy
of rock music and punk.
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And strong melody, we all
loved melodies, good songs,
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that's what it was about.
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Ooh, it smells odd.
Jesus!
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Bit decrepit.
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THEY LAUGH
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Oh, come on, Roger.
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Let's get cosy!
Snuggle up in the back.
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Put your seat belt on.
Well, if you're driving, I will.
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He's actually driving it? Oh, no.
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That's what I said!
I'm in the danger seat.
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You're fine there.
So it appears that in here,
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our very first demo in Birmingham
for our first album.
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MUSIC: Faster Than Light (Demo)
by Duran Duran
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It's Faster Than Light!
It is.
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# White light shining
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# You're all alone...
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# The light.
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# Faster than light!
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# Faster than light. #
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I think last time we were
in a Citroen was probably,
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together, maybe 1982.
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I don't know how we came across
the first Citroen but it was like
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the perfect car for Duran Duran.
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It was super fast and it
was super comfortable.
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I don't remember where we got
the first one from.
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We bought the second one. Buying the
second one was a major commitment.
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To success.
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We don't know what else is on here.
Let's have a look.
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MUSIC: Anyone Out There (Demo)
by Duran Duran
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Andy's playing. Car's shaking!
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Andy's playing was very economical,
wasn't it?
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Yeah, but that was so great.
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He played essential guitar.
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# I never found out
what made you leave... #
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That's a loud vocal. Wow, I hate it,
the vocal's horrible!
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So loud! Horrible vocal!
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Stop it!
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MUSIC: White Riot
by The Clash
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We really became brothers.
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We were both single kids.
We didn't have any siblings.
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We lived a few hundred metres away
from each other
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in Hollywood, Birmingham.
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There was a lot of other kids
at school that loved music.
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Not as much as we did,
that's what we thought.
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MUSIC: I'm The One
by Mick Ronson
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Blondie, Talking Heads,
Patti Smith, Roxy Music.
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We saw lots and lots of times.
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I took John to his first concert.
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It was in April, 1974.
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And it was actually Mick Ronson
and cost us £1.35 each.
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Every time we went to a show,
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John and I used to count the trucks
outside at the back of the show
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and figure out how
many lights they had
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and how much sound and think
how many we needed
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to make what
we were going to do happen.
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MUSIC: Anyone Out There
by Duran Duran
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My dad was a manual worker.
My dad worked at the Rover,
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so it was very much expected that
I would remain a manual worker.
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I didn't think it was
a great way of life.
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I wanted to do something different.
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I had this dream of being in a band.
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Birmingham was a very small world
in those days.
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And anybody who was kind of any
good, you know, you'd hear about.
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So I think John and Nick
had heard about me.
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And I'd heard about Duran Duran.
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We were rehearsing
at this squat in Cheapside.
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It was kind of like the armpit
of Birmingham down here,
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this really is the spiritual home
of Duran Duran, right here.
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Roger is the most likeable person
you'll ever meet in this business.
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Right away, we clicked.
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I just set my drums up
and started jamming.
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And they said,
"Come back next week."
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So I must have got the gig.
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So this is really my...moment,
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is just walking through that
door right there.
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MUSIC CONTINUES
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# Outside
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# Is there anyone out there? #
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You're 19 years old.
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It's like walking
into a space rocket.
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It took me all over the world.
Kind of everything I have,
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really, that's good in life, is a
result of walking through that...
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...through that door there.
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# Look out of the window
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# Maybe you can call by my name. #
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Birmingham at that time
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might as well have been
the centre of the world.
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I don't feel like...
It WAS the centre of our world.
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I don't feel like we ever thought,
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"Oh, man,
I wish we lived in London."
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MUSIC: Shadows On Your Side
by Duran Duran
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The Rum Runner was sort of like
the premiere New Romantic club
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in Birmingham where everybody went.
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It had this really
big kind of entrance.
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It was like a big corridor
that was almost like a catwalk.
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It really was just
about showing off.
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It was about going out,
getting your photo taken.
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It was just about getting attention.
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This is where we found
somewhere to rehearse,
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this is where we found
our management,
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this is where we found Andy.
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This is where we found Simon.
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This was like our Cavern, in a way.
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So I guess within about a month
of having gone to the Rum Runner,
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suddenly it's Nick, me and Rog.
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And now we're planning
world domination,
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although we don't have
a guitar player and a singer,
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but we've still got...
This is like, this is the core.
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We were looking for a guitar player
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that could play like
Nile Rodgers funk
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but could play like Mick Ronson lead
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and there weren't that many
who could do that.
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Andy came down from Newcastle.
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We joke about his style, you know,
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cos that wasn't his thing but
he'd thought about music
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and he just right away brought a...
He took us to another level.
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MUSIC: Astronaut
by Duran Duran
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# Groovin' out to X-Ray Spex... #
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We all had jobs here.
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Doing different things. Nick got the
DJ job, John worked on the door,
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I worked behind the bar
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and I remember Simon comes
walking down one day
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and that was our first meeting.
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And he said his name
was Simon Le Bon.
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We sort of didn't believe
that was his real name
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but anyway,
it turned out it was.
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And he has a lyric book with him.
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Well, this was the Holy Grail.
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There were things in there, we
started reading through it, "Wow."
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"This would be perfect
if only he can sing."
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# All alone ain't much fun
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# So you're looking
for the thrill. #
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When he started singing,
it was crazy.
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It was just one of those
fantastic eureka moments.
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# Don't say a prayer for me now
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# Save it till the morning after
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# No, don't say a prayer for me now
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# Save it til the morning after. #
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I thought, "This guy's a star."
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He was tall, he was well put
together and he was really smart.
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And he's a poet, Simon, you know,
so at that time, particularly,
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he was always writing words.
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The gold dust of the music business
is words on paper,
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whatever anybody else will tell
you about grooves or notes,
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it's all about those lyrics.
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# Any other day and you
might have gone walking by
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# Without a second look
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# Any other way
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# But I'm still mystified
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# I'm just trying
to change my luck. #
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I'm going to take you to the church
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because we're going to go
and see Mr Turvey.
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My old choirmaster.
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# And nobody knows
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# What's going to happen tomorrow. #
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This is the beautiful Church of
Saint John the Baptist, Pinner.
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This is where I was
a choir boy for four years.
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This place had a huge effect
on my musical development.
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I grew to love church music
and the intricacies of it,
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and the harmonies.
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So this is where I spent a lot
of time, sitting right here.
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Yep. There'd be somebody there
who was better than me.
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Until for a very brief time,
I became the one who sat here.
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So this is myself
and you, performing
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O For The Wings Of A Dove.
In this particular place.
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Yes, right, right here.
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# O, for the wings,
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# For the wings of a dove
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HIGH NOTE: # Far away... #
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Yeah.
# Far away would I roam... #
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I didn't quite get my
breathing right there. No.
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I was running out of breath.
Yes, there's a long note coming up.
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Yeah, oh, totally out of breath.
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That's it.
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# Far away
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# Far away... #
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I'm a little bit ahead
of the beat as well.
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Just a fraction.
That's something that I've worked
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for decades to try and overcome,
actually. Yeah.
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MUSIC CONTINUES
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HIGH NOTE
That's my favourite
note in it, that one.
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You got it right that time. Yeah.
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THEY LAUGH
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# And remain there for ever. #
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MUSIC: Friends Of Mine
by Duran Duran
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We thought we were so great,
didn't we?
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We thought that we were going
to take over the world.
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I don't think we were arrogant,
though. Well, at the time,
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we were young.
We were teenagers. I was 17.
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We were a lot more alike then.
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We were really birds of a feather.
And we had a...
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And our dress really, I think,
helped define us, in a way.
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Charlie, you had some
theatrical things,
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there was like some grey velvet
thing that you had.
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Grey velvet with purple slashing.
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It was right out of A Midsummer
Night's Dream, really. Yeah, it was.
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Oh, my goodness. With the bells?
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It had bells on it. You'd see him
coming down the corridor with bells.
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Well, that was one of the things
that was great about that period,
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actually, none of us were afraid of
colour. Except Roger. Except Roger!
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He just used to wear black.
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I was completely afraid of it.
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MUSIC: Skin Trade
by Duran Duran
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Yeah, punk rock.
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You look like you
should be in Wham!
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Very nice, Roger!
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Baby, I'm your man!
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I dread to think what mine is. Oh!
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# Come fly with me! #
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There you go, I don't think we'd
better go any deeper into here.
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Music at that time
was kind of androgynous.
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There was this crossover between
girls and boys wearing the same.
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There were clothes that crossed over
and we kind of bought into that.
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We found them. Yeah, we did.
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We used to trawl the streets
of Birmingham, trying to find...
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bits of clothing...
Ladies' clothes that would fit us.
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Yes! Well, we...
Then it was easier, right?
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I could see you working
the bumper cars in that.
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Yeah, really?
Cheers for saying that.
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I quite like that, though.
Yeah, so do I.
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Italian Vogue. Old habit, you know.
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HE LAUGHS
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We were out at dinner
with Andy Warhol once,
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and somebody asked Andy,
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"Which do you think
is the coolest Vogue?"
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And, at the time, I'd made it
as far as Paris Vogue,
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and I was really into Paris Vogue.
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He said, "Oh, Italian Vogue,
definitely."
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And we were like, "Italian Vogue?
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"Is there one?"
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HE LAUGHS
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Pictures of girls.
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MUSIC: Careless Memories
by Duran Duran
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I first met Duran Duran around 1980,
when they came into the shop.
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We became very good friends.
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They had the balls to whirl around
with all the make-up and hair.
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This lot didn't give a damn.
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And they'd worked out that
women quite liked it.
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So, when they came along,
they were a breath of fresh air.
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This is from the year dot.
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Well, that's probably from...
Well, when you first started. 1981.
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MUSIC: My Own Way
by Duran Duran
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I think after the punk thing,
military was still very much...
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Oh, military was very happening.
286
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But you, of course,
broke the mould for that.
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You lot went in waist-deep into it.
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# I saw you at
the air race yesterday
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# April showers
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# Get out of my way. #
291
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You obviously kept
all these over the years.
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Well, funny... How many are there?
There's about 10,000 in all.
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This was actually worn
in the Planet Earth video,
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along with one of your suits.
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The shirts were like this
because they had to be.
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It's the low armholes and all
the rest of it, that easy wear.
297
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It wasn't easy wear on the
number 50 bus from Birmingham!
298
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Yeah, that's what New Romantic was,
wearing that on the 50 bus.
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So this one was from 1983.
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And that's from the front cover
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of the Seven and the
Ragged Tiger album.
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This fabric's happening now,
big time.
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It's everywhere on the catwalk.
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Oh, well, then only 37 years
ahead of our time.
305
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I remember when you
came to the shop.
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We came because we finally got
our advance from EMI Records.
307
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Yeah. And part of it
was a clothing budget. Oh.
308
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Which you insisted on, of course.
The first band to do that.
309
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Of course. Now, the hard work
was writing the songs
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and getting all of that right.
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Yeah, we know that.
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Finally, when you get to present it,
that's the fun,
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sort of saying,
"How are we going to do this?"
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Yeah, it ends up like this.
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There you go.
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MUSIC: My Own Way
by Duran Duran
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Well, perfect for shopping on Oxford
Street.
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Well, these are the epitome
of '80s over-the-top.
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Really? You think so?
Oh, I think so, yeah.
320
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I mean, they are quite panto-y now.
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But, at the time, they were right,
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because they fused
military with romance.
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We have these corseted
back trousers here
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that were all laced up the back,
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and then these hanging jackets.
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It's Matador-ish, isn't it?
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Yeah. Yeah. Somehow,
we managed to make it work,
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because we all had such
individual and personal taste.
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We could look at a rail
of clothes now and say,
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"Roger's going to like that,
I'm going to have that one."
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Yeah, you could do that.
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Well, I think most of the band
could. You were pretty right,
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because you knew all their tastes
even better than I did.
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Any band... I mean,
if you think of any one you...
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Anyone in history that's worth
remembering, they all have an image.
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Elvis Presley, Madonna,
Prince, Duran Duran.
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They were Birmingham's peacocks.
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It was this Smash Hits magazine.
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And suddenly nobody was reading
any of the weeklies any more,
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there were these, like, coloured
magazines that came out every week.
341
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And it was, like, perfect for Duran.
342
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It was like, "There's a John cover,
it's a Roger cover,
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"it's Simon and Nick."
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It was like an explosion, and we
made ourselves very available to it.
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SCREAMING
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We went on tour behind Planet Earth,
and we played Nottingham.
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And that show was reviewed in the
NME, and it was the meanest review.
348
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"A ripple in a stagnant pool,"
was the headline.
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I can still remember it to this day.
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And the last line in it was,
"Duran Duran are going to be huge
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"and they really don't
deserve any of it."
352
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And I remember reading that,
thinking, "That's so mean!
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"Why? Why don't...?"
You know, "Why?"
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And then we kind of knew
that we were part of this.
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And that was probably
after the Smash Hits cover,
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and it was, like, so we were
a threat to that institution,
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and they weren't going
to be nice to us.
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So we just had to, like, swallow it.
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But the NME never, never...
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And it bothered me up until
about a year ago, I think.
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HE LAUGHS
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The first time I think
that we recognised
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that something different
was happening
364
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was when, out of nowhere,
it was if...
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It was like a movie set,
and we got completely mobbed.
366
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And we sensed that
something had changed.
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Simon, I'm desperate to know what
it's like, being a pop star.
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SIMON, AUDIENCE LAUGH
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Do you think it's all full of fast
cars, fast women, fast living?
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Well, that's probably part of it.
371
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It is. Yeah. It's great.
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MUSIC: Sound Of Thunder
by Duran Duran
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I love boats. I do have about
a boat a bit similar to this.
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It lives in a garage in Italy,
where she was built.
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I think living the life
was very much a sort of...
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a part of the rock star lifestyle.
377
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MUSIC: Girls On Film
by Duran Duran
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We were objects of desire.
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And people wanted to have us
at their parties.
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So there was a lot of that.
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# See them walking hand in hand
382
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# Across the bridge at midnight... #
383
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Duran Duran were like...
It was glamourous.
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It was, like, hot,
beautiful locations,
385
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leggy blondes,
yachts and the limousines.
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It was aspirational, I think.
387
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You know, I think that's why people
liked it because it was like,
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"You can come from Birmingham, you
can come from south-east London,
389
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"but you can still have
a glamorous life."
390
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I was just, like,
perpetually excited in 1981.
391
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I mean, it was like, you know,
I don't think I slept all year.
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I mean, it was just...
It was just...
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It was just so much fun. It was
just... Just this crazy adventure.
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And it never really stopped.
395
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MUSIC: Save A Prayer
by Duran Duran
396
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It did become the album
that was the most important
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in launching our career.
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# You saw me standing by the wall
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# Corner of a main street. #
400
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I remember really being worried,
401
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just briefly, that it wouldn't be
as good as the first album.
402
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And I couldn't... I used to lay in
my bed and listen to the album.
403
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And I rationed myself to two entire
listens a night, because I knew...
404
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I didn't want to wear it out.
But it was...
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I just loved it,
I thought it was so great.
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CROWD SINGS:
# Don't save a prayer for me now
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# Save it till
the morning after... #
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Everyone has THAT record, and
I think Rio was THAT record,
409
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that was sort of the thing
that seals the deal.
410
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I remember the sleeve.
411
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You know, I remember hearing
the songs for the first time,
412
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and I think that Rio was the
album that sort of established
413
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Duran Duran as a kind of global
super force, because it was like,
414
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"OK, they can write songs."
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Rio was like a masterstroke.
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The image on the cover of that album
417
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so perfectly represents
the sounds in the music.
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Whether you're Bowie or Kanye West,
419
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it doesn't matter,
you're selling a fantasy.
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CROWD CHEERS
421
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Here, we have the
original Rio painting.
422
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Yes. Still smiling
after all these years.
423
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For our second album, we thought,
424
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"Why don't we stick a beautiful
painting on the cover?"
425
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And, actually, to the
credit of Paul Berrow,
426
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one of our managers at the time,
427
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who was an avid reader
of Playboy magazine...
428
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,200
he spotted these
beautiful illustrations
429
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done by a Californian artist
called Patrick Nagel.
430
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And brought them and said,
"Chaps, do you like these?"
431
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And we looked and said,
"Actually, yeah,
432
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"they've got a real energy
and a brightness."
433
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And they represented
the period so well.
434
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It's become a symbol
of that whole decade.
435
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For us, she's got
a very lucky smile,
436
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because that period was amazing
437
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and the Rio album was really what
established us around the world.
438
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MUSIC: My Own Way
by Duran Duran
439
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,320
This was the home
to Duran Duran in the '80s,
440
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480
when we were in Los Angeles.
441
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,320
We've got all the Beatles, here.
442
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,800
We've got John, George,
443
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,840
Ringo, and then Paul McCartney.
444
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,880
I know I wouldn't be standing here
without those guys.
445
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,840
Then we go on to Buddy Holly.
446
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But then they probably wouldn't be
there without Buddy Holly,
447
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,960
so that's cool. Moving on.
448
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Tina Turner.
And Tina Turner's bicycle,
449
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
which is a permanent show here now.
450
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I'm getting a warm feeling.
451
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,360
Capitol recording artists,
Duran Duran.
452
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It's a big deal in terms of, like,
where you're from, I guess.
453
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040
I don't think many of my
schoolmates have got one.
454
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,160
We got a lot of prizes in the early
'80s, and I took them for granted.
455
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I was like... You know.
But, as I've gotten older,
456
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I've come to sort
of appreciate them.
457
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And display them, even.
458
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And I think to know where you come
in the evolution of popular music,
459
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you know, contemporary culture,
you know,
460
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,880
that we've got a place...
We've got a place in that.
461
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,880
It feels good.
462
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,920
MUSIC: The Chauffeur
by Duran Duran
463
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They were such a seminal band
for me as a kid, you know?
464
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Like, I really love them,
they had great pop songs,
465
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,560
great melodies, a great band.
466
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,200
There's a reason
that they sold 18 million records.
467
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,680
They were just attuned to writing
really universal, great songs.
468
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,240
What was your first memory
of being in this building?
469
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,720
Yeah, I'm not sure they ever
really knew what to do with us.
470
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,840
Right. EMI in London just kept
pressurising Capitol
471
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into basically making
more effort to break the band,
472
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,280
and it was really
with Rio that they...
473
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That they said, "Look, you've
got to make this happen."
474
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To me, definitely the first album
had a lot of the seeds
475
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,520
of what became, like, the iconic.
early Duran Duran sound.
476
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,000
But Rio is probably...
477
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,440
And also just because of the level
of songwriting went like this.
478
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Do you feel like Rio's where
you sort of forged the Duran sound?
479
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,880
Definitely. I mean... I mean, it was
a development from the first...
480
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,880
All the basic ideas... I mean,
you've just nailed it. You know,
481
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it's like the funky rhythm
section, you know,
482
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:15,160
sort of, Moroder-esque synths,
you know, but also that kind of...
483
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,240
That chunky rock guitar.
Yeah, Steve Jones' guitars.
484
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,680
Yeah. And also the
other thing is, like,
485
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,200
probably because you're all pin-ups
and all this kind of thing at first,
486
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,680
nobody really wanted to give you
credit for the fact
487
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,480
that everybody was a great musician.
488
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,520
I mean, I think for all the
excitement of the punk rock era,
489
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,160
the post punk era was
really exciting too,
490
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,240
because you had kids saying,
"I want to be a bass player."
491
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,320
Roger and I were like,
"We want to be a rhythm section."
492
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,000
Cool. That sound that...
493
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,720
Like, when I play The Chauffeur in
my head, kind of Roger's drums,
494
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,080
like, on top, locked into the
sequence of whatever Nick was doing,
495
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,120
and then you with that,
is such an important part.
496
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,880
I feel like the Chauffeur,
sonically and everything about it,
497
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720
if it came out tomorrow
and you said, like,
498
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,640
"Oh, this is a new Killers' tune,"
you would believe it.
499
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,360
# And watching lovers part
500
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,920
# I feel you smiling
501
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,880
# What glass splinters lie
so deep in your mind
502
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,440
# To tear out from your eyes
503
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,680
# With a thought to stiffen
brooding lies
504
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,760
# And I'll only watch you
leave me further behind. #
505
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,320
When we first came to New York,
I remember our managers meeting
506
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,440
with these guys that were putting
MTV together, and they were like,
507
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,480
"Look, we can't play
Stairway To Heaven all day."
508
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,120
Right. "Like what
happens on the radio.
509
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,160
"We need to get more
into new music, you know,
510
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760
"and it would be great if you could
give us something really...
511
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,440
"kind of like a James Bond film."
Right. Our manager went away,
512
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,400
and that's where the
Sri Lanka video idea came from.
513
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920
# In touch with the ground
514
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,080
# I'm on the hunt
I'm after you
515
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520
# Smell like I sound
516
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,360
# I'm lost in a crowd
517
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,120
# And I'm hungry like the wolf. #
518
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:07,120
MTV was, like, such a big part
of my teenage life.
519
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,040
I mean, that's how we got our music.
520
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,080
And I think Duran Duran
was such a...
521
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440
perfect band for this new way
522
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,000
that people were getting music,
which was through television.
523
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,000
# Stalked through the forest,
too close to hide
524
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,440
# I'll be upon you
by the moonlight side... #
525
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,040
They were really, you know, some
of the pioneers in music videos.
526
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,920
I mean, that was just the age where
we didn't know what to expect
527
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,400
and anything could go.
528
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000
# ..On your skin it's so tight
529
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680
# You feel my heat
I'm just a moment behind... #
530
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,680
There was something about it
when we were there that we knew
531
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,200
that it was new ground.
It was very exotic.
532
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,840
We were very lucky to have
Russell Mulcahy directing,
533
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760
because at that time,
534
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,880
he was THE guy - he'd just
done Vienna for Ultravox
535
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,160
and all the coolest things
that were out there, really.
536
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,800
With Duran, it was a bit like
being a tourist with a big camera.
537
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,000
I had very much a cinematic vision,
538
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,720
they had a vision with their music
539
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,480
and the manager
had a vision of, like,
540
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,160
"Let's make it big
and stand out from the rest."
541
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,680
We just wanted to raise the bar.
542
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,600
On first glance, it looks
like a guy chasing a girl.
543
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560
It's slightly uncomfortable,
actually.
544
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,320
But it's us chasing our career,
trying to make it happen,
545
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,160
and we were so hungry,
546
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,120
we would chase and we would grab
and we would achieve.
547
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,800
And that is what that song's about.
548
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Then, after that, the travelogue
continued and hence,
549
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,040
we ended up doing
the Rio video in Antigua.
550
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,800
MUSIC: Rio
by Duran Duran
551
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,400
That was wild. I mean,
552
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040
that one we actually just
made up on the spot.
553
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,320
I would say in the morning,
554
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,680
"OK, I need a mirror, I need a bed,
555
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,440
"I want to put it on the beach."
556
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400
# Moving on the floor now, babe
557
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,280
# You're a bird of paradise
558
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,200
# Cherry ice cream smile
559
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,120
# I suppose it's very nice... #
560
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,800
The closing shot eventually ended up
561
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,240
being Simon in front of the boat
with the boys hanging off.
562
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,080
And the cameraman was sitting
at the top of the boat
563
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,480
on the whatever-you-call-it.
564
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,280
With no harness, hand-held,
565
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080
hanging on to a thing like that.
566
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Song blasting away, boys were all
in their sort of tailored suits,
567
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,600
very expensive suits,
568
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,720
getting splashed with sea water
and ruining the suits, of course.
569
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680
And we just had a lot of fun.
570
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,880
# ..down to the Rio Grande... #
571
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880
The yacht was such a powerful image,
572
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,520
with us all with the coloured
Antony Price suits,
573
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,240
it really worked beautifully.
574
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,960
# Do do do-do do-do
575
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240
# Do do do-do do-do... #
576
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,680
Rio was a very hard record
to follow, and in hindsight,
577
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
we'd made a classic album with Rio.
578
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,960
I think it was the first time
that we really felt the pressure
579
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,920
of having to follow something up.
580
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760
The Ragged Tiger is that kind of...
581
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,360
..dirty but incredible...
582
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,600
..charismatic animal
that is success.
583
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160
HELIUM VOICE: Hello, good evening
and welcome to our show.
584
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,200
LAUGHTER
585
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,000
SCREAMING
586
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
This is a dressing room.
By nature of the word dressing,
587
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120
it means everyone has to change.
588
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,480
What we really want to tell you is
we're going to do this. goodnight.
589
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,600
The demands on us had become absurd
590
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,040
because I think a lot
of the businesspeople
591
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,120
had smelled the money everywhere
that they possibly could,
592
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,880
and they just wanted more
and more and more and more.
593
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,960
# The union of the snake
is on the climb... #
594
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,400
Our accountants were saying,
595
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360
"You can't stay in England because
you're going to pay all this tax."
596
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,760
So we decamped to the south
of France and we end up
597
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,960
in this chateau in
the middle of nowhere.
598
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,720
It was wonderful.
599
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,800
The scenery was fantastic
and they had a swimming pool
600
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,880
and tennis courts
601
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,280
and we didn't get
a lot of work done.
602
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960
I get up and have a bath
and a wee wee.
603
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Have lunch. Play a bit of tennis.
And then I wake up.
604
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,520
I mean, I was all into the
swimming pool and the tennis courts.
605
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,480
John was bringing his girls down.
606
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,360
Andy was getting a bit high.
607
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,680
John and Andy were funding
South American countries
608
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,000
with their...
with their pocket money.
609
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,880
They were up very, very,
very late at night
610
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,560
but not in the studio so much.
611
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,480
It's, like, nobody was
a saint in that band.
612
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,320
I mean, why would you be?
613
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,000
With so much being served up,
being offered to us.
614
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,360
You've got drugs, you've got
alcohol, you know,
615
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,440
there's a whole load of things.
616
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,680
It's a minefield, really.
617
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,720
And even in amongst all of the
fraternal kind of fun and games,
618
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,520
there was loneliness as well.
619
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,760
So you know...
620
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,400
..I don't think anybody really
relished sleeping alone
621
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,320
if it could be avoided.
622
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,240
MUSIC: The Reflex
by Duran Duran
623
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,120
# You've gone too far this time
624
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,720
# And I'm dancing... #
625
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:25,600
The tour for that album, in '83-'84,
626
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,160
was the height of everything
coming together,
627
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520
all the insanity
from every single place
628
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,440
just came to meet us in America.
629
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,320
AUDIENCE SCREAM
630
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,800
We couldn't hear what we were
playing most of the time
631
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,720
because the noise of the audience
was just overwhelming.
632
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:51,200
And they were all teenage girls
so it was all this certain pitch.
633
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,600
It was like hitting very heavy
weather in an aeroplane.
634
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120
And everybody was just
looking at each other going,
635
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,160
"Whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on!"
636
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,400
I have photograph upon photograph
of girls screaming and crying.
637
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640
I wasn't prepared for the fact that
it was the Beatles, effectively.
638
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,440
It was madness, carnage,
everywhere we went.
639
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,240
We were hemmed into the hotels,
we couldn't move at that point.
640
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,720
Every time we tried
to leave the hotel,
641
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:28,000
there'd be 200 teenage girls
trying to rip you apart.
642
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,040
MUSIC CONTINUES
643
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,360
It's absolutely incredible,
there's tons of people here.
644
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,120
I think there's about 2,000.
645
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,520
3,000. 4 million, you never know.
646
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,840
Did you think they'd have to bring
in police horses to keep them quiet?
647
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Have they got police horses out
there? Oh, God, where are they?
648
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,480
The fans had began to realise that
all they had to do was phone all the
649
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,560
top hotels, wait for my name and
they'd know the band were staying.
650
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,240
I'd get the phone call at two in the
morning asking how John was or the
651
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,960
fire alarm would go off and the
whole hotel then had to evacuate
652
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,080
and that's how fans
got to meet the band.
653
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120
It was...wild.
654
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,040
I had somebody
in a wardrobe in my room.
655
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:29,280
I checked into my room and I opened
the wardrobe and was unpacking and
656
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,480
there was a girl in there.
657
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,440
It was like losing
your virginity, you know.
658
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,840
We were never the same again.
659
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,680
It was like... I mean, you know.
660
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640
I think, by the end of the US tour,
661
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:57,360
we'd literally been deep-fried
daily for months on end.
662
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Of course, the pettiness
663
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,080
and misunderstandings
had started to set in
664
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,560
within the band.
665
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,240
We really, for the first time...
666
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,720
had had enough of each other.
667
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:11,320
We all kind of went...
668
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,800
John and Andy wanted to be more
rock and they did Power Station.
669
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,720
Me and Nick decided we want to be
more arty and we started Arcadia.
670
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,840
Roger didn't know which bloody camp
to be in so he did a bit of both.
671
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,360
It was kind of like two boats were
sailing off in different directions
672
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,560
and I kind of had one leg on one
boat and one leg in the other.
673
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,800
And I got kind of stretched
in between, actually.
674
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,160
Which is a bit painful.
675
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,000
I know you've been here all day,
676
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,960
but if you've got any energy left,
677
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,080
we'd like to see you dancing!
678
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,440
When Bob Geldof calls you
and says, you know,
679
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,480
"I'm doing this project,
680
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,320
"it's going to save millions
of lives in Africa,"
681
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,640
you can't say,
"No, we're on a break."
682
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,880
When we got together
in Philadelphia,
683
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680
we were really in two camps.
684
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,840
MUSIC: Save A Prayer
by Duran Duran
685
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,720
The atmosphere was completely toxic.
686
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,480
Nobody wanted to be together
at that point.
687
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,040
It's quite sad, really, because we'd
been so close a few years ago and
688
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,800
suddenly it was like we
could hardly bear to...
689
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,440
be in the same room as each other.
690
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,000
It just got to the point where
I couldn't deal with it any more.
691
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,000
I got up every morning feeling
unhappy with what I was doing.
692
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,280
I was sensible enough at the age
of 25, to think, you know,
693
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,000
I'm going to walk away from this.
694
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,840
I remember when Roger left the band,
695
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,800
just thinking,
"What a weird thing to do."
696
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Just, who leaves a band when
they're that successful?
697
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,440
Because I sort of knew him, I just
thought he's obviously gone mad.
698
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,480
MUSIC: New Moon On Monday
by Duran Duran
699
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,960
MUSIC: Notorious
by Duran Duran
700
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,800
We were fighting for our lives.
701
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,320
You know, because the band
had had its moment.
702
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:36,080
We realised that this was
a real crisis, it was survival.
703
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,480
Andy kind of, you know,
704
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960
dicked us around
for about six months, actually.
705
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,080
We didn't know whether
he was coming or going.
706
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,840
Maybe he wasn't getting
his rocks off,
707
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,440
the music wasn't speaking to him,
708
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,960
he was getting frustrated with the
style of the music and the direction
709
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,880
the music was taking.
710
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,720
The three of us came together
in such an insanely, like,
711
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:01,880
with our backs to the wall.
712
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,800
It was so galvanising,
713
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,600
the desire to prove ourselves
was more powerful
714
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,080
than it had been at the beginning,
715
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,480
whereas we were in
two camps at Live Aid.
716
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,240
Six, eight months later,
717
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,080
the three of us were in a new camp
718
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,160
and it was our camp
and it was the trio camp.
719
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,800
Things have always seemed
to happen with us,
720
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,880
as one door closed,
another door opened.
721
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,200
And standing in that doorway was
Sir Nile of Rodgers, who came in,
722
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,320
and really oversaw
the Notorious project.
723
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,840
As soon as we met each other,
it was...
724
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,160
Goddamn, like love at first sight.
725
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:52,240
We had so much fun, we were making
music the same way Chic makes music,
726
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,200
the say Luther Vandross makes music.
727
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,400
When you meet an artist...
728
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,560
..and there's that kind
of connection right away...
729
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,520
you know that big things
are going to happen.
730
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Three, four...
731
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,280
He's fantastic to be round,
he has a great energy, a joy,
732
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600
a joyfulness about the way
he plays and the way
733
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,240
he approaches song writing
and recording.
734
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,160
That sounds like music to me, man.
735
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
When we'd finished it
and we were all pretty pleased,
736
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,280
we were just doing
the mixes and we'd sent
737
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,640
an almost complete version
to the record label,
738
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,200
and they'd come back and they'd
said, "Oh, we've got a problem.
739
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,560
"We can't put this out,
it doesn't sound like Duran Duran,
740
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,040
"it's, it's... It's far too urban,"
741
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520
but we just told them
we were changing direction
742
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,840
and that was that.
I think they just saw the boat
743
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,200
going the other way down the river,
with all their money on it.
744
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,720
When your record's not
as successful as the one before,
745
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:01,480
nobody wants to talk to you, the
press don't want to talk to you,
746
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,880
the music press aren't interested
because it's other things, you know,
747
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,680
you can't get on the radio, because,
748
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,720
"You're old stuff, man,
you're old news.
749
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,360
"We've got new stuff we're
playing here on Radio 1."
750
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,000
So you sit there in your business
manager's office in New York City,
751
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,520
looking at pictures of all the other
acts he's working on and talking
752
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,640
about, "What can we do to save this,
what can we do to make it work?"
753
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,600
The first time it happens,
it's really scary,
754
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,800
because you thought
it would carry on forever,
755
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,480
but it happens.
756
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,520
You get through it. And the next
time it happens, it's not so bad,
757
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560
and the next time it happens
it's not so bad.
758
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,880
Then you just get to a point
where you think, you know what,
759
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,240
let's just relax and do what we do.
760
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,040
Do we believe in the music we make?
761
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,920
Yes, we do. Can we go in
and write new stuff?
762
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Have you still got stuff inside
you that you want to say?
763
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Yes, I have. Yes, we can.
764
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,840
And you do it.
765
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,520
MUSIC: Come Undone
by Duran Duran
766
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,120
# Hey child... #
767
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,960
At that time we were looking to move
768
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,880
into a new phase of the band,
and what that band looked like.
769
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,360
We'd gotten away from
the early '80s and we were
770
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,720
looking to sort of redefine
ourselves.
771
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:33,760
MUSIC CONTINUES
772
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,920
You know, we knew there was
this guy, Nick Egan,
773
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,920
and he did lots of cool stuff.
774
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,480
He's got that same interest
in art and music, and fashion.
775
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,760
I've worked with the Clash,
I've worked with Bob Dylan,
776
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,160
I've worked with Malcolm McLaren.
777
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,280
My first cover I did
was for the Ramones.
778
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,520
The greatest achievement
and proudest achievement
779
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,160
of my working career is
actually working with Duran Duran,
780
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,400
because I find the fact they stay
relevant and keep ahead of the game,
781
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,800
there's not many bands
that can do that any more.
782
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,840
I think Nick was really
important at that moment,
783
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,960
to help us realise first the cover
and then the Ordinary World video.
784
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,000
MUSIC: Ordinary World
by Duran Duran
785
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:35,000
# Came in from a rainy Thursday
on the avenue
786
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,720
# Thought I heard you
talking softly... #
787
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,680
Ordinary World, the song itself,
788
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,560
the thing that was the catapult back
into phase two, if you like,
789
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200
when I heard it I just thought
"This is a hit record,"
790
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,200
and you don't often think that.
How did you guys feel as a band?
791
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,000
We'd had the biggest flop of our
careers with the album before,
792
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,280
with Liberty. We were kind
of a bit lost, really,
793
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,440
but I remember hearing Ordinary
World on the radio, and thinking,
794
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,440
"Thank you, God," you know,
that we just like,
795
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,640
we'd got a foot into another
decade, because we were just,
796
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,240
we'd just had a few years of
797
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,680
"'80s band, '80s band,
they're done, they're done."
798
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,520
I think the success of the single
799
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,360
took an enormous amount of
pressure off us. Right.
800
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,200
So I think Simon's lyrics
were fantastic on that.
801
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,000
Most of Simon's lyrics
from the early albums
802
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,080
are kind of quite oblique. You know,
you're not quite sure what they are,
803
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,760
that's what make them
so interesting,
804
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,080
but it kind of felt
at this point,
805
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,880
like maybe we just need to start
writing songs about emotions,
806
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,320
and, and see how that works out.
807
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,120
# But I won't cry for yesterday
808
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,800
# There's an ordinary world
809
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,400
# Somehow I have to find... #
810
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:55,680
Ordinary World is a song
about trying to get over...
811
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,880
the...death of a best friend.
812
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,320
And putting it in words freed me,
absolutely, it really worked for me,
813
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,840
emotionally and mentally.
814
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,720
Everybody who heard it could apply
it to something in their life,
815
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:17,160
and it meant something to them
but for a totally different reason.
816
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,680
And it became such an
important song for us,
817
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,240
and I think it only had that
power to touch people,
818
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:25,800
because it meant so much to me.
819
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,560
MUSIC: Chains
by Duran Duran
820
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,480
We've got Andy Taylor
back as well tonight.
821
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,760
I spoke to somebody this morning
822
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,240
and they thought we'd got back
together to party.
823
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,760
Find another wife or whatever.
824
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,800
Fucking rockin' show, dude.
825
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,840
Simon, in the way
he came in the crowd,
826
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,880
I just wanted to lick you,
all over.
827
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,680
People had been asking us for
20 years by then, "Are you,
828
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,560
"when are you ever going to put
the original band back together?"
829
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,520
And we didn't know that we would.
830
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,680
But nobody had ever ruled it out.
831
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,280
MUSIC: Astronaut
by Duran Duran
832
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,080
LAUGHTER
833
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,760
I just thought if we ever
get a ball in a pocket,
834
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,360
this massive cheer's going to go up.
835
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,920
Apparently, it was 18 years
in between
836
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200
the last show that we were
all on stage together
837
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,680
and the first show
of The Astronaut Project.
838
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Wow. It was a gamble, you know,
839
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,320
we didn't have a record company
and we didn't have a manager.
840
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,920
I think we went in pretty much
with nothing to lose.
841
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,400
We've got this super hooky
vocal on the chorus.
842
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,240
D minor.
843
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,000
HE SINGS
844
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,560
# Does anybody know... #
845
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,200
I like that bit.
What's that chord?
846
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,520
It wasn't going to be all
about what happened in 1983,
847
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,720
this was going to be about
what we could do now.
848
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,160
Play it from that first chord.
849
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,120
I've got to say, getting the
different personalities to work
850
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,560
again was probably more challenging
than the music, I think.
851
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,000
That was the tough part.
852
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,640
OK, clear the room.
Including you. Out.
853
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,720
You guys sang it differently.
No, we didn't. Yeah, you did.
854
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,560
Absolutely you did
and we all noticed it.
855
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,680
You sang it, it was exactly the
conversation that we were having
856
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,360
in sound check.
857
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,200
You know you said that before, but
I can't figure out what you mean.
858
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,840
You go to the last...
859
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,160
No, no, no. You're wrong.
You are wrong.
860
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,360
I don't think ever
was there a more important
861
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:38,000
"lights!" than that first show
in Osaka on the Reunion tour,
862
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,200
because that was ultimate "shut
the fuck up and play your guitars."
863
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,240
SCREAMING
864
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,360
And that was really what we needed,
because then, all the politics,
865
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,560
just...shtum, and then we go out and
we play and we remind each other,
866
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,240
"Oh, when we do this together,
this is what we get."
867
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:09,600
MUSIC: (Reach Up For The) Sunrise
by Duran Duran
868
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:14,080
# Put your hands into the big sky
869
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,160
# You can touch the sunrise
870
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,200
# Feel the new day enter your life
871
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,880
# Reach up for the sunrise
872
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,360
# Put your hands
into the big sky... #
873
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,440
After the Budokan shows, we decided
to do a tour to support Astronaut,
874
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,880
and I think it was planned to be
about three to six months,
875
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,160
but in reality it ended up
being around two years.
876
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,320
Tomorrow night
we'll do like tonight.
877
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,880
Tonight we'll do like last night.
878
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,960
And then tomorrow we'll do
like the night before.
879
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,360
We've got to shorten The Reflex.
880
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,680
Second show Tiger Tiger's out.
881
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Right. What do we play
Bedroom Toys instead of?
882
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,440
We want to play that next
to Notorious, don't we?
883
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,440
We could play Night Boat,
then Chauffeur.
884
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,480
No!
885
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,000
# Her name is Rio and she
dances in the sand! #
886
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,040
Right?
887
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,760
SIMON CACKLES
888
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,320
That was a great song.
889
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,680
I'm feeling job insecurity!
890
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,200
The last time we were at the wheel,
we just drove it off the cliff,
891
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,360
you know and this time, you know,
892
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,040
wanting to make sure that
doesn't happen again, I mean,
893
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,440
we're all quite driven now.
894
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,520
I think what the time did,
was that it en...
895
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,720
We all dug back in,
896
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,200
our relationships with each other
897
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,960
and our feelings for the band,
you know.
898
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,320
That was classic.
That was worth the work.
899
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,040
That was worth a year.
900
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,120
That was. It was like
everything was set.
901
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,760
Do you know what?
Not a moment too fucking soon.
902
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,000
All the British gigs, all the gigs
we've done, to get here,
903
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,720
just the press the on button, boom.
904
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,560
Aren't we smug? Yeah.
905
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,680
I hit a horrific bum note
on the guitar in Astronaut.
906
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,280
Oh, someone had to spoil it,
didn't they?
907
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,840
Just when you thought
it was perfect.
908
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,280
MUSIC: Planet Earth
by Duran Duran
909
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,720
Then we started a pretty good
two-year run of working together.
910
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,680
It was difficult, though, you know,
911
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,160
because everybody'd had a different
experience and was carrying
different stuff, baggage,
912
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,440
there were sort of different
things in everybody's suitcases,
913
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,160
and honestly I didn't really want
know what was going on.
914
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,080
But it would just,
it would just come out.
915
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,640
It's a really big one for the fans.
916
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,960
It's a very exciting...
917
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,080
It is, and I think... Roger and I
were just saying that we thought you
918
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,000
watched the reaction plummet.
You're joking!
919
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,720
The front three, four rows,
watch it all the way back.
920
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:53,760
It just...
921
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
You're telling me you
can see people at the back?
922
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,560
Of course I can.
923
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,800
They were singing.
924
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,560
ALL TALK AT ONCE
925
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,880
This is really when it
all started
926
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,960
going wrong
for Andy on that project.
927
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,800
I remember just seeing how
much he put into a show,
928
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,040
or rather how much it took
out of him...
929
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Well, Andy was all or nothing.
930
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,000
You kind of knew he wouldn't
be able to keep it up.
931
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,440
If I don't come off
and I haven't had a good show
932
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,960
or I haven't got enough,
933
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,400
I'm a bit burned, I get a bit
dark after ten weeks on tour.
934
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,280
I'm a performer, first and foremost,
and anything else for me,
935
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,200
is a secondary incident in life.
936
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,960
I think he really missed his
family as well.
937
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,640
I mean Andy was, and still is,
a real family man.
938
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,840
When you're younger,
you don't have a home to call.
939
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,320
When you're our age...
940
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,320
..home isn't just a house,
941
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,640
it's a family, it's
your children and so you know,
942
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,760
you can get stretched very thinly,
943
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,040
and those stresses can
also take their toll,
944
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,720
you can get very homesick,
in a nutshell.
945
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,920
We wanted to do everything.
946
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,720
We wanted to do more work,
947
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,600
and more shows and we were happy
948
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,000
with the way that the management was
949
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,680
working, and Andy wasn't.
950
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,960
It's like one of those rat wheels,
isn't it, and you've just...
951
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,880
got to be King Rat sometimes and
say, "Bollocks, I'm jumping off."
952
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,280
And finally, the guitarist
with the pop group Duran Duran
953
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,880
has left the band halfway
through a world tour.
954
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,640
Andy Taylor, one of
the original members,
955
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,880
rejoined the line-up five years ago
after a 15-year absence.
956
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,040
The rest of the band has described
the relationship with him
957
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,880
as "unworkable" and one
which couldn't be resolved.
958
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,000
We haven't been
on Radio 1 for decades.
959
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,160
And we do another album with
Nile Rodgers, with Mark Ronson,
960
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,360
and Ben Hudson and it goes top ten.
961
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,120
It's extraordinary.
962
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,160
# Everybody everywhere
963
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,480
# Feel it in the air
964
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,000
# Oh, yeah, it's time to take
the pressure off
965
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,360
# Oh-oh oh-oh oh oh oh
It's up to you... #
966
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,600
And it was such
an uplifting experience,
967
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,120
when you see Nile playing his guitar
like that and grinning,
968
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,520
there's nothing
quite like it in the world.
969
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,440
# It's time to take
the pressure off... #
970
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,920
And the four of us have this
extraordinary belief in ourselves,
971
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,440
you know, we still believe we've
got important music to make.
972
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,600
You know, when everybody else
is going, "They're done"
973
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,400
you know and we have this sense,
974
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,240
that there's a,
that staying together...
975
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:14,520
Because we've all worked apart from
each other, we've all tried that.
976
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,760
Meh, you know. There's something
that we have when we're together
977
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,760
that is worth showing up for.
978
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,200
We accept who we are as people now,
979
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,200
who we've grown into,
980
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,760
including everybody's...
faults, and quirks.
981
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,560
I don't even know what's... I don't
know what's in the future for us,
982
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,800
you know, I just know
it'll be interesting.
983
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,480
# Bow to the paper gods
984
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,800
# In a world that
is paper-thin... #
985
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,040
Getting to a 14th album
is a milestone.
986
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,320
That's a moment, you know,
987
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,840
it's not something you even think
about when you start your career.
988
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,120
Think about anyone now who's going
to like make a 14th album.
989
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,520
On one hand, maybe not, one finger.
990
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,920
I actually think we've proved the
detractors wrong in the last decade.
991
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,440
The fact that we're still here,
992
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
40 years after we started.
993
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,720
That, that's the real proof.
994
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,800
# Bow to the paper gods
995
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,120
# In a world that is paper-thin
996
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,280
# The fools in town
997
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,240
# Are ruling now
998
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,760
# Bleeding from paper cuts
999
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,080
# Money for head shots
1000
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,160
# Fools leading
1001
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,680
# Who needs it? #
1002
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,320
Yes!
1003
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Charlie's first pot.
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