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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:03:04,475 --> 00:03:07,020 They say that those who go to Rio... 4 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:10,106 do so because they are attracted by the bright lights. 5 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:13,568 It is the city of opportunity... 6 00:03:13,568 --> 00:03:18,448 a chance to escape the poverty and hardship of rural Brazil. 7 00:03:18,448 --> 00:03:20,867 Hope for a better life. 8 00:03:21,784 --> 00:03:23,786 But to make it in this city... 9 00:03:23,786 --> 00:03:26,372 you need to have something other than just hope. 10 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:31,377 This is Carlos Henrique Raposo 11 00:03:32,462 --> 00:03:34,255 But no one calls him by that name. 12 00:03:36,007 --> 00:03:38,718 He is known to all as Kaiser. 13 00:03:40,261 --> 00:03:43,681 Kaiser, the German word for emperor. 14 00:03:43,681 --> 00:03:46,184 Derived from the Roman ruler, Julius Caesar. 15 00:03:47,852 --> 00:03:52,774 Kaiser, like Caesar, is a man who does not rely on hope... 16 00:03:53,816 --> 00:03:57,362 and like the man who bore his title before him... 17 00:03:57,362 --> 00:04:00,573 this Kaiser also created an empire, 18 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:04,786 a world where he was at the centre, pulling the strings. 19 00:04:10,541 --> 00:04:13,711 At least, that's his version of it. 20 00:04:13,753 --> 00:04:16,589 There are many, many others. 21 00:04:18,883 --> 00:04:21,886 To understand Kaiser's story, one thing needs to be made 22 00:04:21,886 --> 00:04:23,930 absolutely clear. 23 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:33,439 Brazil loves football and football loves Brazil. 24 00:04:48,746 --> 00:04:53,459 Brazil is an inexhaustible factory of amazing talent. 25 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,844 Over the years, Brazil has won 26 00:05:02,844 --> 00:05:04,721 All there is to win 27 00:05:04,721 --> 00:05:08,057 And we have done it in style. Brazilian style. 28 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:12,562 Brazilian football is like an art-form. 29 00:05:12,562 --> 00:05:14,522 It's technically fantastic. 30 00:05:15,356 --> 00:05:19,902 The creativity and skill of Brazilian players is indisputable. 31 00:05:21,195 --> 00:05:24,032 Brazil may not have invented football... 32 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:26,117 but we certainly added Ginga to it. 33 00:05:26,951 --> 00:05:30,455 Ginga, an indefinable, almost mystical quality 34 00:05:30,455 --> 00:05:33,541 of movement and attitude possessed by Brazilians. 35 00:05:33,541 --> 00:05:37,420 It is there in the way we walk, talk, dance... 36 00:05:37,420 --> 00:05:40,423 and yes, in the way we play football. 37 00:05:43,926 --> 00:05:47,472 So, it naturally follows that those who add Ginga... 38 00:05:47,472 --> 00:05:49,724 to what is effectively a national treasure... 39 00:05:49,724 --> 00:05:52,894 are loved and worshiped by millions... 40 00:05:52,894 --> 00:05:55,521 and can get just about anything they want. 41 00:05:57,899 --> 00:06:01,861 The high life, 1980s and 1990s Rio... 42 00:06:01,861 --> 00:06:04,822 was the realm of the superstar footballer. 43 00:06:04,822 --> 00:06:07,450 And in this city, superstar footballers 44 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:10,828 play for one of Rio's top four football clubs. 45 00:06:10,828 --> 00:06:14,415 But if a footballer ever played for all top four clubs, 46 00:06:14,457 --> 00:06:17,418 well, he would be able to have it all. 47 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:23,424 The first time I saw Kaiser, he was crossing the street… 48 00:06:24,634 --> 00:06:27,095 with such swagger that I thought… 49 00:06:27,095 --> 00:06:32,183 "That guy must be one of the best footballers in the world." 50 00:06:32,183 --> 00:06:36,729 Kaiser is one of the most iconic characters in world football. 51 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:40,525 Kaiser was cool, in every sense of the word. 52 00:06:40,525 --> 00:06:43,277 It was his lingo and vernacular… 53 00:06:43,277 --> 00:06:46,489 the way he walked, the way he dressed. 54 00:06:46,489 --> 00:06:50,368 He pranced around in swimming trunks flicking his long hair around. 55 00:06:50,368 --> 00:06:51,702 He had that kind of hair… 56 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:54,580 And sunglasses. 57 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:58,084 Those massive sunglasses. 58 00:06:58,084 --> 00:07:02,380 He would even rock a bum-bag which is now completely dated. 59 00:07:04,298 --> 00:07:06,634 In my mind, he was a footballer. 60 00:07:18,896 --> 00:07:20,982 Now, a story about a football player 61 00:07:20,982 --> 00:07:24,193 who was popular and looked good in tight swimming trunks 62 00:07:24,193 --> 00:07:26,112 would be nothing special 63 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:29,407 and it would be a relatively short tale. 64 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:35,037 Kaiser's story is about much, much more than that. 65 00:07:37,915 --> 00:07:39,792 I think he's the only person on the planet... 66 00:07:40,918 --> 00:07:43,754 who for 26 years... 67 00:07:43,754 --> 00:07:45,923 played football without putting on a pair of boots. 68 00:07:46,799 --> 00:07:48,551 I don't think he ever went on a pitch. 69 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:51,387 He signed contracts with many clubs… 70 00:07:52,096 --> 00:07:55,433 but he didn't touch the ball. He didn't even know the ball was round. 71 00:07:55,975 --> 00:07:58,352 He was a professional conman. 72 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:07,612 I took part in this documentary to tell the truth. 73 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,869 In Brazil, footballers have always been fawned over. 74 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:19,499 People in the football world have always been idolised and seen as special. 75 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:24,045 That's why my nickname is Kaiser. My real name is Carlos Henrique Raposo… 76 00:08:24,045 --> 00:08:24,086 Kaiser was given to me because other players compared me to Beckenbauer. 77 00:08:24,086 --> 00:08:29,133 Kaiser was given to me because other players compared me to Beckenbauer. 78 00:08:29,133 --> 00:08:34,305 Kaiser, the king of German football, the Pele of German football. 79 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:40,228 They, not me, thought the way I played was similar to Beckenbauer. 80 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:45,566 I didn't give myself the Kaiser mantle. The Kaiser title. 81 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:51,197 They made it up for me because I had something. 82 00:08:55,117 --> 00:08:57,537 He was always chubby, always chubby. 83 00:08:58,287 --> 00:09:00,790 Back then there was a beer called Kaiser. 84 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:04,335 It was kind of a thick round bottle… 85 00:09:04,335 --> 00:09:06,587 and people would ask "Why Kaiser?" 86 00:09:06,587 --> 00:09:08,923 "It's because he looks like the Kaiser bottle." 87 00:09:08,923 --> 00:09:11,008 Then the Kaiser nickname ended up sticking… 88 00:09:11,008 --> 00:09:12,635 that was the story. 89 00:09:12,635 --> 00:09:15,930 This is the story of an anti-footballer. 90 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:19,141 I want you to use that phrase. Anti-footballer. 91 00:09:19,141 --> 00:09:23,229 I didn't play. I didn't score. I didn't kick a ball. 92 00:09:23,229 --> 00:09:27,984 It's not the story of the star player, of the guy who did everything. 93 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:31,153 It's the story of an anti-footballer. 94 00:09:31,195 --> 00:09:34,865 He's been in loads of clubs. I think Kaiser's been all over the world. 95 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:38,160 Not just Brazil but the whole world. 96 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,662 I'm sure of that. 97 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:48,170 Kaiser was here there and everywhere... 98 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:51,048 including Rio's top four clubs. 99 00:09:51,215 --> 00:09:52,800 He played for Flamengo... 100 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,552 The biggest club in Brazil... 101 00:09:54,552 --> 00:09:57,096 with over 40 million fans. 102 00:09:57,096 --> 00:09:59,307 The list of great players includes Zico, 103 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:01,601 Romario, and Bebeto. 104 00:10:04,353 --> 00:10:07,023 I met him in person when he approached me... 105 00:10:07,023 --> 00:10:09,900 He introduced himself as a footballer... 106 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:12,737 and said that he'd played for several clubs in Europe. 107 00:10:12,737 --> 00:10:18,534 He wanted a chance to show his value as a player. 108 00:10:20,202 --> 00:10:22,121 He played for Vasco. 109 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:26,584 One of the most iconic clubs in world football, 110 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:29,545 named after the famous Portuguese explorer. 111 00:10:30,379 --> 00:10:33,174 Sometimes he would spend three months at one club... 112 00:10:33,215 --> 00:10:36,052 four months at another, five months somewhere else. 113 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:39,680 In the same year he would be at three or four clubs. 114 00:10:41,265 --> 00:10:43,225 I was at Fluminense twice. 115 00:10:44,101 --> 00:10:46,395 Flamengo's traditional rival. 116 00:10:46,395 --> 00:10:48,689 their derby matches are among the most intense in... 117 00:10:48,731 --> 00:10:50,441 South American football. 118 00:10:51,025 --> 00:10:54,111 He managed to train with the Fluminense first team… 119 00:10:54,153 --> 00:10:59,033 but nobody managed to see him train with the ball itself. 120 00:11:00,576 --> 00:11:04,121 I was at Botafogo two or three times. 121 00:11:05,247 --> 00:11:07,917 The last of Rio's big four. 122 00:11:07,917 --> 00:11:10,086 Botafogo has produced more Brazilian internationals... 123 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:11,921 than any other club. 124 00:11:12,004 --> 00:11:16,175 He would come with newspapers... 125 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:20,680 and ID cards of clubs he'd been at. 126 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:25,601 He actually managed to get into professional teams… 127 00:11:25,601 --> 00:11:29,146 that's the most incredible thing about his whole story. 128 00:11:29,855 --> 00:11:31,524 As well as the big clubs... 129 00:11:31,607 --> 00:11:35,277 Kaiser also played for the smaller Rio teams. 130 00:11:35,403 --> 00:11:38,989 I had three stints at America FC, two at Bangu. 131 00:11:41,283 --> 00:11:42,368 But Kaiser's career 132 00:11:42,368 --> 00:11:44,036 really took off internationally. 133 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:47,915 I spent three years at Puebla having them on. 134 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:49,917 It wasn't like El Paso. 135 00:11:49,959 --> 00:11:51,419 El Paso was horrible. 136 00:11:52,253 --> 00:11:56,549 At the time we didn't have access to the information... 137 00:11:56,549 --> 00:11:58,884 we have today in our globalized world... 138 00:11:58,884 --> 00:12:01,137 with Google and the internet. 139 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:04,598 So I'm watching the TV: "The new signing, Kaiser." 140 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:07,143 And everyone fell for it. 141 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:09,520 "I can't believe he's at another club." 142 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,483 He had some offer from Arabia, from France or Japan. 143 00:12:14,525 --> 00:12:16,902 He would vanish, disappear. 144 00:12:16,902 --> 00:12:18,195 He had a photo of Paris Saint-Germain. 145 00:12:18,195 --> 00:12:19,739 He'd trained at Paris Saint-Germain. 146 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:22,992 Independiente in Argentina. 147 00:12:23,117 --> 00:12:26,120 He said he became world club champion… 148 00:12:26,203 --> 00:12:28,456 in a final against Barcelona. 149 00:12:28,914 --> 00:12:33,794 Then after about six months Kaiser would come back. 150 00:12:36,213 --> 00:12:37,840 Kaiser's roster of clubs 151 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,009 is a list that any average player 152 00:12:40,009 --> 00:12:41,677 would die for. 153 00:12:41,677 --> 00:12:44,764 but Kaiser was not your average player. 154 00:12:45,723 --> 00:12:48,225 Kaiser was crap at football. 155 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:50,019 That's the conclusion we came to. 156 00:12:51,061 --> 00:12:52,813 He couldn't play for his life. 157 00:12:52,813 --> 00:12:54,523 He only had one problem. The ball. 158 00:12:56,066 --> 00:12:59,069 He was good at everything but the ball was his weakness. 159 00:13:00,946 --> 00:13:02,448 The ball wasn't his thing. 160 00:13:03,699 --> 00:13:04,617 Coconuts were. 161 00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:08,078 He was good with coconuts, not balls. 162 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:15,002 In Brazil, people who are not very good 163 00:13:15,002 --> 00:13:17,838 at football, won't even get into a kick-about on a beach, 164 00:13:17,838 --> 00:13:19,173 let alone sign contracts... 165 00:13:19,173 --> 00:13:21,342 with some of the biggest clubs in the world. 166 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:24,845 Yet despite his lack of talent... 167 00:13:26,222 --> 00:13:27,973 Kaiser managed to do just that. 168 00:13:28,974 --> 00:13:29,767 But how? 169 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:36,732 He turned up on a day... 170 00:13:36,732 --> 00:13:41,612 where the training sessions was based around fitness. 171 00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:44,031 And he displayed an incredible vigour. 172 00:13:45,449 --> 00:13:48,244 What I had was physical fitness, but it wasn't enough. 173 00:13:48,244 --> 00:13:50,496 You had to be skilful. Very skilful. 174 00:13:53,749 --> 00:13:55,543 We usually started off with fitness... 175 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:59,380 and finished training with the ball. 176 00:14:00,381 --> 00:14:02,466 He was wherever the ball wasn't. 177 00:14:02,466 --> 00:14:04,385 If the ball was on the right, he'd be on the left. 178 00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:06,303 If the ball was on the left, he'd be on the right. 179 00:14:06,303 --> 00:14:10,558 If the ball was in the middle, he'd be in defence. The ball was in defence, he'd be in attack. 180 00:14:13,477 --> 00:14:17,064 We'd play piggy in the middle with Kaiser as the piggy... 181 00:14:17,064 --> 00:14:18,941 and he'd have serious trouble. 182 00:14:22,987 --> 00:14:25,573 Kaiser would run from one side to the other… 183 00:14:25,573 --> 00:14:28,284 and we'd just say "Get out Kaiser or we'll end up killing you." 184 00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:32,037 Kaiser was dying. Sweating loads. 185 00:14:32,037 --> 00:14:34,540 He was wrecked before training even started! 186 00:14:36,041 --> 00:14:38,419 I knew immediately that he didn't possess... 187 00:14:38,419 --> 00:14:42,256 all the qualities that he claimed to have. 188 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:48,846 He knew that he wasn't a footballer and that he never wanted to play. 189 00:14:48,846 --> 00:14:51,807 It's like a doctor who's scared of blood, 190 00:14:51,807 --> 00:14:54,226 wanting to be a doctor. 191 00:14:55,811 --> 00:14:59,440 After the game I'd tell him: "Kaiser you never touch the ball." 192 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,067 He said "Ricardo, I have a unique style of play." 193 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:03,736 He was a cheeky bastard too. 194 00:15:08,365 --> 00:15:10,326 Clearly, Kaiser wasn't in it... 195 00:15:10,326 --> 00:15:11,744 for the footballing glory. 196 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:14,455 So, what was his goal? 197 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:18,542 I would sign a contract then take the cash advance... 198 00:15:18,542 --> 00:15:22,838 so it didn't matter if the salary came in or not. 199 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:28,093 I'm not one of those players who sees out his three-year contract. 200 00:15:28,093 --> 00:15:30,638 The idea was to get out as quickly as possible. 201 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:34,141 He was always faking something. 202 00:15:34,141 --> 00:15:37,978 His whole injury charade was amazing. 203 00:15:45,819 --> 00:15:50,074 After two sprints he felt something... 204 00:15:50,074 --> 00:15:51,408 He put his hand on his leg... 205 00:15:51,408 --> 00:15:53,285 and he asked to come off. 206 00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:55,079 He was always faking. 207 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:59,375 Injured ankle, injured thigh, he'd snapped a tendon. 208 00:16:01,669 --> 00:16:04,880 There were no MRI scans back then so I faked being injured. 209 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,758 He would sign for a club and stay with the physio for three months. 210 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:10,511 Then he would get injured again. 211 00:16:13,097 --> 00:16:15,849 Centre-forwards have to score or at least assist goals 212 00:16:15,849 --> 00:16:20,938 But, it's easier to hide from the game as a centre-forward. 213 00:16:22,606 --> 00:16:24,817 I think that's why he played there. 214 00:16:28,696 --> 00:16:32,449 If I had to symbolically kill my grandma to not play, I would kill her. 215 00:16:32,449 --> 00:16:36,495 I would get a phone call saying my grandma had died. I would do that not to play. 216 00:16:37,204 --> 00:16:38,205 I didn't want to play. 217 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:45,254 We were in the dressing room getting changed… 218 00:16:45,254 --> 00:16:48,841 and he put his hand in his bag and there was a 'brrrrr' 219 00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:51,677 There was a cell phone noise. 220 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,138 Then he takes out a big brick thing that opens like this... 221 00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:55,889 "Hello" 222 00:16:56,056 --> 00:16:58,267 He was like "I'm just talking with the people over in France..." 223 00:16:58,267 --> 00:17:01,145 "sorting out my contract." 224 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,564 He used to mix English with French… 225 00:17:03,564 --> 00:17:04,982 'Tres bien, Tres bien. Et vous?" 226 00:17:04,982 --> 00:17:08,610 He would pretend he was talking to the Barcelona President. 227 00:17:08,610 --> 00:17:11,780 "One moment. One moment please. Tres bien, tres bien." 228 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:16,368 So, when he leaves, Nelson pulls it out... 229 00:17:16,368 --> 00:17:18,245 It's a toy cell phone. 230 00:17:26,754 --> 00:17:33,677 If you tell your friends any of this, they won't believe it. 231 00:17:33,677 --> 00:17:37,598 Everywhere he went there would be somebody to have a word with the coach... 232 00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:39,600 so he could have a chance to train. 233 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,854 It was me who had a word with Carlos Alberto Torres "Professor, let Kaiser train." 234 00:17:43,854 --> 00:17:48,650 Other people too. I think he always had somebody who could help him out... 235 00:17:50,319 --> 00:17:54,031 but he knew he didn't have what it takes to be a professional footballer. 236 00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:57,659 When they say: "Kaiser wasn't a good player." 237 00:17:57,659 --> 00:17:59,787 Kaiser wasn't a good player because... 238 00:17:59,787 --> 00:18:03,123 They're comparing me to the players I hung around with. 239 00:18:03,123 --> 00:18:06,835 If it was with today's generation, I'd be a star player. 240 00:18:06,835 --> 00:18:07,544 You understand? 241 00:18:13,717 --> 00:18:16,512 The players Kaiser claims he hung around with 242 00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:18,472 were not ordinary footballers. 243 00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:21,016 They are some of the biggest stars Brazil... 244 00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:22,976 has ever produced. 245 00:18:22,976 --> 00:18:27,940 Zico, Bebeto, Junior, Romario. 246 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,942 You'd have to be really good to stand out... 247 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:31,360 amongst those guys. 248 00:18:33,237 --> 00:18:35,697 One man did just that. 249 00:18:35,697 --> 00:18:37,991 His name wasn't Kaiser, though. 250 00:18:37,991 --> 00:18:41,161 It was Renato Portaluppi, a right-winger 251 00:18:41,161 --> 00:18:43,622 from Porto Alegre, southern Brazil. 252 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:45,791 And because he was from the state... 253 00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:47,334 famous for its cowboys. 254 00:18:47,334 --> 00:18:51,588 He was known to all as Renato Gaucho. 255 00:18:59,054 --> 00:19:01,598 I'd define Renato Gaucho like this… 256 00:19:01,598 --> 00:19:04,476 Renato Gaucho was the perfect man. 257 00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:14,528 Renato had an illustrious career in Brazil. 258 00:19:14,528 --> 00:19:16,905 He's one of the greatest forwards in Brazilian football... 259 00:19:16,905 --> 00:19:17,948 without a doubt. 260 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:28,709 Renato was a top player. 261 00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:32,379 He was a player much like... 262 00:19:32,379 --> 00:19:33,380 Cristiano Ronaldo... 263 00:19:34,631 --> 00:19:36,758 Messi, Neymar. 264 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:39,720 He'd be there working harder than everybody. 265 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,514 He'd cover more distance than anyone on the pitch. 266 00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:48,437 He played every game... 267 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:51,273 and he always delivered. 268 00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:53,817 He has the strength of a Gaucho... 269 00:19:53,817 --> 00:19:57,362 and the Ginga of a Carioca. 270 00:19:59,948 --> 00:20:01,950 Renato made his name at Gremio, 271 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:03,869 pretty much single-handedly taking them... 272 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:07,831 to the Copa Libertadores and then the World Club Cup. 273 00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:19,259 Renato's rise at Gremio was as a young heart-throb. 274 00:20:21,261 --> 00:20:28,602 He was almost like a soap opera star in that early period. 275 00:20:28,602 --> 00:20:31,813 He'd date women and go to nightclubs... 276 00:20:31,813 --> 00:20:34,441 he'd joke around. He was a real joker. 277 00:20:34,441 --> 00:20:37,527 Great for the group. I loved him. 278 00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:39,947 I had a real dislike for him. 279 00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:42,199 Stuck up stud. 280 00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:46,828 I have a deep dislike for stuck-up ladies' men, for arrogant hot guys. 281 00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,747 They really piss me off. 282 00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:59,675 Renato was always a lad in the good sense of the word. 283 00:20:59,675 --> 00:21:02,594 Relaxed, likeable, friendly, affable. 284 00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,596 But he was a ladies' man. 285 00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:08,100 I send this flower to my love. 286 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,852 I'll send one to my other love Carla. 287 00:21:10,852 --> 00:21:13,897 For Maria. Oh God. 288 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,942 For my love, Carlinha. 289 00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:22,155 Monica, you're amazing. I'd never forget you. 290 00:21:22,155 --> 00:21:22,990 Oh God. 291 00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:26,493 We did an interview on the beach... 292 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:31,873 and he wore tiny, weeny little yellow speedos. 293 00:21:31,873 --> 00:21:33,875 He had a huge speedo collection… 294 00:21:33,875 --> 00:21:37,254 because he lived in Ipanema and he went to the beach every day. 295 00:21:37,254 --> 00:21:40,549 After chatting for half an hour, we became friends. 296 00:21:41,508 --> 00:21:45,762 You always seem to be dating a different beautiful woman... 297 00:21:45,762 --> 00:21:47,055 are you fickle? 298 00:21:47,055 --> 00:21:49,641 They can choose to accept me how I am. 299 00:21:52,769 --> 00:21:57,941 One time in the middle of the famous Rio Sul shopping mall… 300 00:21:57,941 --> 00:22:03,363 I saw a small crowd gathering with guys passing by me saying... 301 00:22:03,363 --> 00:22:05,449 "Renato Gaucho's over there signing autographs." 302 00:22:05,449 --> 00:22:08,493 And I thought "Is Renato there? I'll go and see." 303 00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:12,748 I get into the middle of the mall and who's there signing autographs? 304 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:13,999 Kaiser! 305 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,960 He wanted to look like Renato Gaucho... 306 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,589 He cut his hair the same way… 307 00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:24,551 and tried to wear similar clothes to Renato when he could. 308 00:22:24,551 --> 00:22:29,306 He pretended to be Renato. He would show goal montages from afar... 309 00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:32,976 and because Kaiser had wavy hair like Renato… 310 00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:36,813 he would tell girls that he'd scored a goal for Gremio. 311 00:22:36,813 --> 00:22:41,109 And girls bought it because they didn't have a lot of knowledge about players. 312 00:22:41,109 --> 00:22:47,699 My reign truly began from 1983 when I was compared to Renato. 313 00:22:47,699 --> 00:22:50,869 That's when my reign starts. Renato's clone. 314 00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:02,297 I began visiting Rio de Janeiro in 1983... 315 00:23:04,007 --> 00:23:07,552 and it was around then I met this legend. 316 00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:08,804 We can call him that. 317 00:23:08,804 --> 00:23:13,600 All of you abroad may have only just heard of him... 318 00:23:13,642 --> 00:23:17,479 but for us here he's a legend. 319 00:23:17,479 --> 00:23:19,981 And then I started hearing all of these stories about me... 320 00:23:19,981 --> 00:23:20,023 "This guy's slept with women pretending to be you." 321 00:23:20,023 --> 00:23:24,736 "He's doing this or that." 322 00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:26,780 "He's doing well out of your name." 323 00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:29,074 I said "If the guy's doing well, let him." 324 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:31,910 "Unless he's stealing or attacking somebody let him do it." 325 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:34,454 Due to my resemblance with Renato... 326 00:23:35,622 --> 00:23:37,624 "I used to sleep with older women..." 327 00:23:38,458 --> 00:23:39,501 for money... 328 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,711 because women wanted to bed Renato... 329 00:23:41,711 --> 00:23:44,131 but they paid to have sex with Kaiser. 330 00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:49,386 When I met Kaiser I could really see how much he resembled me. 331 00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:53,473 After we met I could never forget him... 332 00:23:53,473 --> 00:23:55,684 because he's a real character. 333 00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:58,520 There are endless stories about Kaiser. 334 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,273 We've been good friends for many years... 335 00:24:01,314 --> 00:24:04,276 and I know we'll stay that way. 336 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:10,282 I don't drink because my mum was an alcoholic. I have an aversion to drink. 337 00:24:11,908 --> 00:24:16,121 For me nowadays, my dad, my brother, my friend, my everything... 338 00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:17,205 is Renato Gaucho. 339 00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:24,212 By pretending to be Renato, 340 00:24:24,212 --> 00:24:28,133 Kaiser had tasted the life of a professional footballer. 341 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:30,302 He had his entry into the game... 342 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:32,596 and he fully intended to exploit it. 343 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:37,642 In Brazil, Kaiser is known as a 171, 344 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:40,687 the penal code for scams and fraud. 345 00:24:41,897 --> 00:24:43,815 As we say colloquially here in Brazil... 346 00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:46,401 "Every 171 is loveable." 347 00:24:46,401 --> 00:24:48,778 And Kaiser is no exception. 348 00:24:48,778 --> 00:24:51,615 They're always bad. Always bad. 349 00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:55,118 Profiting from something they don't do. 350 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:58,163 Kaiser is a good 171. 351 00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,126 He was shady in a good way. 352 00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:09,591 I think he's an affront to the profession of football. 353 00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:14,888 Kaiser knew that if he wanted to maintain... 354 00:25:14,888 --> 00:25:18,725 his footballer lifestyle, he had to become one. 355 00:25:19,935 --> 00:25:22,562 And with his growing network of famous friends, 356 00:25:22,562 --> 00:25:26,233 he started getting introductions to professional clubs. 357 00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:30,904 His first opportunity didn't come in Rio, 358 00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:35,909 but 9,000 kilometers away. 359 00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:52,050 Ajaccio, or Corsica actually. 360 00:25:52,801 --> 00:25:56,805 The island is very beautiful. Surrounded by the Mediterranean. 361 00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:04,104 GFCA. Gazelec Football Club Ajaccio. 362 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:09,192 I was taken by a Brazilian called Fabio Barros, Fabinho. 363 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:14,781 I arrived and they had high expectations because I was Brazilian. 364 00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:17,742 The stadium was packed with fans. 365 00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:21,371 I climbed into the stands and gave flowers to the president's wife, 366 00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:23,748 got the Corsican flag and kissed it. 367 00:26:24,457 --> 00:26:25,542 And so, I didn't have to train... 368 00:26:25,542 --> 00:26:27,252 I kicked all the balls out to the fans… 369 00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:29,254 and then there was no training. 370 00:26:29,671 --> 00:26:30,797 I got a standing ovation. 371 00:26:31,298 --> 00:26:33,633 Just because of that I could have stayed ten years without playing. 372 00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:38,096 There was a game, which I was watching from the stands 373 00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:44,227 And right when they blew the whistle he made a crazy ten-metre dash. 374 00:26:44,227 --> 00:26:46,980 At the end of the sprint he put his hand on his leg and fell on the ground. 375 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:51,693 There was a French guy sat next to me who also played for the club and he said... 376 00:26:51,693 --> 00:26:55,238 "Alex, that guy never plays. I already knew that was going to happen" 377 00:26:55,238 --> 00:26:58,283 "I was actually surprised he didn't come off before the whistle blew." 378 00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:05,832 His relationship with the club couldn't have been worse. 379 00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:11,504 He didn't bother anybody, but the coach didn't like him. 380 00:27:12,213 --> 00:27:16,384 My friends were the directors not the players. 381 00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:23,099 Corsica wants to be independent. 382 00:27:23,892 --> 00:27:26,811 So, the violence there is really bad. 383 00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:32,108 It's mafia. Let's not beat around the bush. It's mafia. 384 00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:38,281 Mancini, an Italian, was vice-president. 385 00:27:39,366 --> 00:27:42,369 He had a special relationship with Mancini… 386 00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:43,370 as if he was his son. 387 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,999 It was like a wing of protection around Kaiser. 388 00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,418 It was a kind of mafia thing. 389 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:56,883 There came a point when they said "He's not going to perform." 390 00:27:56,883 --> 00:27:59,886 "He's not going to perform but he's important to us." 391 00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:02,555 And he was loaned out, he didn't stay there. 392 00:28:02,555 --> 00:28:04,349 He was always going back to Brazil to play for Bangu 393 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,934 Loaned out to Bangu, America FC. 394 00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:08,770 In a country... 395 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:10,230 where he couldn't speak the language 396 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:13,817 and was a complete unknown, Kaiser had conned his way 397 00:28:13,817 --> 00:28:15,819 into professional football. 398 00:28:18,154 --> 00:28:20,365 Having a foreign club on his resume 399 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,993 gave him exactly what he needed back at home, 400 00:28:23,993 --> 00:28:28,123 a doorway into the world of Brazilian football. 401 00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:37,132 The clubs I've been at probably won't admit it... 402 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:40,635 because I was a disappointment for them. 403 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:42,721 But clubs screw so many people over... 404 00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:45,390 that somebody had to trick the clubs. 405 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:47,350 They couldn't fire me. 406 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:49,978 How do you explain that you signed some player who didn't work out? 407 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,271 You can't sell them. 408 00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:53,481 You'll be devaluing all of your assets. 409 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:56,609 All the teams I went to celebrated twice... 410 00:28:56,609 --> 00:28:58,611 when I signed and the again when I left. 411 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:01,030 You understand? 412 00:29:01,030 --> 00:29:04,617 The only exception to that was Bangu. 413 00:29:09,956 --> 00:29:13,501 This is the legendary Brazilian children's 414 00:29:13,501 --> 00:29:15,420 TV show, Balao Magico. 415 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:19,924 It featured a clown, a flying balloon with an evil face, 416 00:29:19,924 --> 00:29:22,969 and what appears to be a dancing penis, 417 00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:24,262 which is stroking an egg. 418 00:29:25,722 --> 00:29:29,476 Balao Magico and its theme song, Super Fantastisco, 419 00:29:29,476 --> 00:29:32,979 were loved by millions, including this man, 420 00:29:32,979 --> 00:29:36,107 Castor de Andrade. 421 00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:39,527 Castor was a colourful character in Brazilian life. 422 00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:42,989 He was patron of the famous Moncidade's Samba School, 423 00:29:42,989 --> 00:29:45,033 which still competes in Rio Carnival. 424 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,119 Castor was a man of the people, 425 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,997 known throughout the entire country. 426 00:29:50,997 --> 00:29:51,956 - Bravo! 427 00:29:51,956 --> 00:29:54,501 And he financed and controlled Bangu, 428 00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:57,879 a small club in the west zone of Rio. 429 00:29:57,879 --> 00:30:00,757 Whatever he wanted, happened. 430 00:30:00,757 --> 00:30:03,176 - Offside! 431 00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:07,055 And Castor wanted the Bangu band to play Super Fantastico... 432 00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:08,973 at every game. 433 00:30:17,273 --> 00:30:21,152 Everybody who played for Bangu under Doctor Castor... 434 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,363 was afraid of Doctor Castor. 435 00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:26,741 That's a fact. You couldn't not be. 436 00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:29,035 The left back for the 1970 national team, Marco Antonio... 437 00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:32,205 was always injured and he couldn't play. 438 00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:37,126 Castor went to training where Marco Antonio was chatting away... 439 00:30:37,126 --> 00:30:38,419 he took his revolver out... 440 00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:42,173 BANG, he took a shot near Marco Antonio's foot. 441 00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:46,135 He jumped about two kilometres. 442 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:50,348 "Look! You're fine! You can play tomorrow then." 443 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:55,270 Castor was a man... 444 00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:57,897 that no one wanted to mess with. 445 00:30:57,897 --> 00:31:01,818 In the 1980s, he was considered to be the most dangerous... 446 00:31:01,818 --> 00:31:04,070 crime boss in Brazil. 447 00:31:04,404 --> 00:31:09,993 If the police stopped you in the street and you mentioned Doctor Castor… 448 00:31:09,993 --> 00:31:12,453 you would get off scot-free. 449 00:31:12,453 --> 00:31:17,375 Castor de Andrade's name was very powerful. 450 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:23,590 I was a friend of his. I'm godfather to his daughter. 451 00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:28,928 Castor was charismatic, caring. He lived on the wrong side of the law... 452 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:34,809 but all the powerful leaders around the country loved him. 453 00:31:36,978 --> 00:31:39,230 Castor was a bichiero, 454 00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:43,943 the head of an illegal lottery game called Jogo Do Bicho. 455 00:31:43,943 --> 00:31:46,738 You can still buy a ticket on every street corner... 456 00:31:46,738 --> 00:31:48,489 in Brazil, and it's tolerated 457 00:31:48,489 --> 00:31:51,784 because everybody plays it. 458 00:31:51,784 --> 00:31:53,661 Castor had been born into the game... 459 00:31:53,661 --> 00:31:56,080 and had gone from owning a few lottery stores... 460 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,665 to becoming one of the richest... 461 00:31:57,665 --> 00:32:00,501 and most influential people in the whole of Brazil. 462 00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:03,838 Castor de Andrade was drowning in money. 463 00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:06,424 He could light cigars with $100 bills. 464 00:32:13,306 --> 00:32:17,352 He was the boss. He assumed the power of the role. 465 00:32:17,352 --> 00:32:22,315 I would very often see players kiss his hand. 466 00:32:22,315 --> 00:32:23,816 That would actually happen. 467 00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:29,530 Crime bosses are passionate people. 468 00:32:29,530 --> 00:32:31,658 And what better to release passion 469 00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:33,076 than through football. 470 00:32:34,118 --> 00:32:36,913 Bangu and Castor were a perfect match. 471 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:40,667 I saw who ordered them to attack me... 472 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,210 and it was the chairman, Castor de Andrade. 473 00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:45,505 I ran after the referee with a clear instruction saying... 474 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:47,215 "Don't leave the pitch!" 475 00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:50,802 "Wait on the pitch for the police." 476 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:55,598 And as I approached him shouting "Don't leave the pitch!" 477 00:32:55,598 --> 00:33:01,229 He might have thought I was trying to attack him, so he ran off. 478 00:33:05,608 --> 00:33:06,859 The footage shows the carnage... 479 00:33:06,859 --> 00:33:08,277 but I didn't see anything. 480 00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:12,699 I remember saying to him "Hey, Castor..." 481 00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:18,705 He liked me a lot because I didn't ask for bribes. 482 00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:22,500 And he said to me "Garotinho, get this in your head..." 483 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,585 "Only people that deserve it get killed." 484 00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,006 So, I went out thinking "Whoa, only people that deserve it get killed!" 485 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:31,467 how was I supposed to interpret that sentence? 486 00:33:32,635 --> 00:33:34,387 Castor's money brought in some of the greatest 487 00:33:34,387 --> 00:33:37,640 players in Brazil, including some of the 1970... 488 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560 World Cup winning squad and their superstar... 489 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,021 national team forward, called Maurino. 490 00:33:46,649 --> 00:33:49,986 The team went from nothing to narrowly missing out... 491 00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:54,407 on becoming champions of Brazil in 1985. 492 00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:02,331 Castor's money also brought him a not-so-great player. 493 00:34:03,332 --> 00:34:04,709 I came from Ajaccio. 494 00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:05,835 I went from Corsica to Bangu. 495 00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:10,465 There's a newspaper headline saying "Bangu has its king. 496 00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,216 Who was that? Zizinho? 497 00:34:12,216 --> 00:34:14,427 No. Carlos Kaiser. 498 00:34:14,427 --> 00:34:18,139 From a sports newspaper back then. It's there for whoever wants to see it. 499 00:34:18,222 --> 00:34:22,185 I saw this newspaper headline "Bangu signs Kaiser." 500 00:34:22,185 --> 00:34:25,938 The name alone stands out. A name like Kaiser. 501 00:34:25,938 --> 00:34:28,441 "I want to see this guy play." 502 00:34:28,441 --> 00:34:32,111 He became as important... 503 00:34:32,111 --> 00:34:34,238 as Mauro Galvão, Marinho... 504 00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:36,741 and nobody today can explain why. 505 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:42,371 Because he was as important as we were for the club. 506 00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:43,873 For doing nothing. 507 00:34:43,873 --> 00:34:45,124 He wasn't a player. 508 00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:50,838 I was a ball boy at Bangu. 509 00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:57,220 He would tell me from on the pitch "Go up to the stands..." 510 00:34:57,220 --> 00:35:00,556 "and get all the guys from the favela here to shout my name" 511 00:35:00,556 --> 00:35:06,354 "Then after the training I'll buy you a snack and a drink." 512 00:35:06,437 --> 00:35:10,024 I said: "Leave it to me." Then I went up and got about 30 guys to shout... 513 00:35:10,024 --> 00:35:12,151 "Kaiser! Kaiser!" 514 00:35:12,151 --> 00:35:16,030 After that Castor would say "He's the man." 515 00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:21,536 he managed to fool the most dangerous man in Brazil. 516 00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:26,040 Tripping Castor up is like tripping up a tortoise. It's difficult... 517 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,583 but it seems he did it. 518 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:34,465 We were afraid of Doctor Castor... 519 00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:37,135 but he loved Kaiser. 520 00:35:37,343 --> 00:35:40,429 You'd got into Castor's room and Kaiser was always there... 521 00:35:40,429 --> 00:35:43,641 playing, chatting and laughing loads. 522 00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:50,606 When we had to give an interview, Doctor Castor asked him to do it. 523 00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:53,985 And everybody was like "Doctor, why Kaiser?" 524 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,821 He would just say "Kaiser is the man. 525 00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:02,910 Doctor Castor always thought I was going to shine at some point. 526 00:36:03,536 --> 00:36:08,916 I organized everything. I was the team's PR manager. 527 00:36:09,584 --> 00:36:12,170 So, when a director of the team decided to get rid of me... 528 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:14,589 there were 30 people demanding that I stayed. 529 00:36:19,886 --> 00:36:22,013 The good thing he brought to Bangu was that he filled the place up with girls. 530 00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:25,141 He would arrive in a van... 531 00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:26,517 with 15 or 20 women. 532 00:36:28,728 --> 00:36:30,104 He's amazing. 533 00:36:30,104 --> 00:36:32,315 I don't know where his talent comes from but it's good. 534 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:37,820 This documentary has to be based on the personal side, not the footballing one. 535 00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:42,617 I wasn't any kind of legend. I was a legend to other people. 536 00:36:42,617 --> 00:36:45,536 The players' legend, not the fans' one. 537 00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:48,789 No club has a statue of me. There's nothing. 538 00:36:53,377 --> 00:36:55,630 Rio de Janeiro is as seductive at night... 539 00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:57,632 as it is by day. 540 00:36:57,673 --> 00:36:59,842 All of Brazil wants to party here. 541 00:36:59,842 --> 00:37:03,262 And, with his reputation as a superstar footballer, 542 00:37:03,262 --> 00:37:05,765 Kaiser was at the centre of every party. 543 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:10,561 To his teammates, he was the king of Rio nightlife. 544 00:37:10,561 --> 00:37:12,897 What he lacked in talent on the pitch, 545 00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:15,733 he more than made up for on the dance floor. 546 00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:24,116 He'd know where the coolest places were. 547 00:37:24,116 --> 00:37:25,326 The king of the party. 548 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:32,041 He was always around footballers and among beautiful women. 549 00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:33,876 I always saw Kaiser with beautiful women. 550 00:37:33,876 --> 00:37:35,753 And famous women too. 551 00:37:41,425 --> 00:37:43,844 Kaiser would bring you along to a nightclub... 552 00:37:43,844 --> 00:37:46,138 where there were women in a VIP area... 553 00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:49,725 free drinks, free food. 554 00:37:49,725 --> 00:37:51,394 It was like he was an actor. 555 00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:06,617 He would pretend to be someone special. 556 00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:09,745 So, people would inexplicably give him special treatment. 557 00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:13,958 He would rock up with his footballer swagger... 558 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:17,211 then he'd go up to them and say: "Hey, I'm a footballer..." 559 00:38:17,253 --> 00:38:18,963 and the girls would be like: "Wow! A footballer?" 560 00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:24,093 He would go up to women and say... 561 00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:27,805 "I'm a footballer. I want to dedicate my next goal to you on TV." 562 00:38:30,516 --> 00:38:31,934 He invited me to go out with him. 563 00:38:32,601 --> 00:38:34,228 That's where the trouble started. 564 00:38:34,562 --> 00:38:40,401 I remember one time we went to a nightclub called Nuth over in Barra. 565 00:38:40,401 --> 00:38:46,615 Kaiser invited me and two girls to a nightclub opening. 566 00:38:46,615 --> 00:38:47,825 "Ok. Let's go." 567 00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:52,413 "You won't have to worry about anything as it's all on my tab and I know everybody there." 568 00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:56,208 Then he opened a door about this height to crawl through. 569 00:38:58,377 --> 00:39:01,380 Under the door and under all these pots and pans. 570 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:03,424 He got me in through the kitchen. 571 00:39:03,424 --> 00:39:06,927 I come in and there's a fryer in front of me. 572 00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:13,684 We came out onto the roof and down a ladder then we were in the club. 573 00:39:13,684 --> 00:39:17,897 Then once we finally got in I realised that he'd just snuck us in like a rat. 574 00:39:17,897 --> 00:39:22,026 I said to him "Fucking hell Kaiser, I work..." 575 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:26,113 "I can just go to the front and pay the entrance fee. I don't need this shit!" 576 00:39:27,948 --> 00:39:31,577 I got in trouble at home with my wife... 577 00:39:31,577 --> 00:39:34,955 because a lot of people would say to her... 578 00:39:34,955 --> 00:39:39,585 "Renato was in this place, Renato was drinking there, Renato was with a woman." 579 00:39:39,585 --> 00:39:42,213 And it wasn't me. I was at training camp. 580 00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:43,255 It was Kaiser. 581 00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:46,967 We arrived at a nightclub. 582 00:39:46,967 --> 00:39:49,470 He was walking in and was stopped by the bouncer. 583 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:53,015 Kaiser said: "Don't you know who I am?" 584 00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:57,686 "I'm Renato Gaucho." "Oh Renato! Come on in." 585 00:39:58,312 --> 00:40:00,481 Then the nightclub owner said "Hey Renato..." 586 00:40:00,481 --> 00:40:03,275 Come sit down here. You and Mauricio sit here. They're players." 587 00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:11,534 Then the real Renato comes along and the bouncer stops him. 588 00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:14,787 I say "The owner invited me along. I'm with a couple of friends." 589 00:40:14,787 --> 00:40:18,541 And the guy says: "But who are you?" 590 00:40:18,541 --> 00:40:20,334 I said: "I'm Renato Gaucho." 591 00:40:20,709 --> 00:40:23,629 The bouncer looks at me and says… 592 00:40:23,629 --> 00:40:25,673 "Do I look like an idiot?" 593 00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:27,425 Renato says: "Are you crazy, mate?" 594 00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:29,427 And everybody else saying: "It's Renato, mate." 595 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,804 And the bouncer says "No way, Renato's already inside!" 596 00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:33,889 "Oh, really? Renato Gaucho is already inside?" 597 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:36,267 I said: "Could you do me one favour?" 598 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,144 Which one is Renato Gaucho in there?" 599 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:43,441 I come in and Carlos Kaiser is there at the table... 600 00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:47,069 surrounded by beautiful women with drinks on the table. 601 00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:53,159 Then they found out it was Carlos Kaiser. Kaiser went and hid in the bathroom. 602 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,995 What can I do with a guy like that? 603 00:41:04,211 --> 00:41:06,505 Off the pitch, Kaiser was living the life 604 00:41:06,505 --> 00:41:09,800 of a star, and his fellow footballers loved him. 605 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,597 But Castor de Andrade's patience was starting to wear thin. 606 00:41:17,683 --> 00:41:20,269 Castor was so pissed off with him. 607 00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:26,358 One day Castor de Andrade and his people came and said... 608 00:41:27,234 --> 00:41:33,407 "Kaiser! If you don't train today right now, we're going to shoot you." 609 00:41:33,908 --> 00:41:35,701 He pressured me. 610 00:41:35,701 --> 00:41:41,707 Doctor Castor liked the way I was. He wanted to see my character on the pitch. 611 00:41:43,834 --> 00:41:46,712 You could never fool him. Men like that don't get fooled. 612 00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:50,174 Nobody scams Castor de Andrade. 613 00:42:00,226 --> 00:42:03,729 Bangu weren't getting good results so at some point they said... 614 00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:05,564 "We have to make Kaiser play." 615 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:11,946 I was partying at a nightclub here in Rio called Caligula. 616 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:25,084 The Bangu coach Moises calls me. 617 00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:44,853 So, the guy finds me at 4am in the morning. 618 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:49,275 And he tells me that Doctor Castor wants me on the bench the next day. 619 00:42:51,443 --> 00:42:55,656 I said "Come on man. You call me at 4am to play in the game?" 620 00:42:55,656 --> 00:42:58,075 He said "No. You just have to be on the bench. You're not going to play." 621 00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:10,546 So, I'm arriving back at the hotel and the other players are just waking up. 622 00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:20,598 I was a ball boy. I was on the pitch. 623 00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:33,944 It seemed like a storm was gathering. 624 00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:36,822 Everybody was excited saying "Kaiser is going to make his debut." 625 00:43:36,822 --> 00:43:38,657 How can a footballer be thinking... 626 00:43:38,657 --> 00:43:41,243 "Oh hell, I'm going on the pitch. What am I going to do?" 627 00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:46,707 So, they put him on the bench. 628 00:43:47,082 --> 00:43:49,627 The game is in full flow then Castor sends a message down saying "Put Kaiser on." 629 00:43:50,127 --> 00:43:53,380 "Send Kaiser on. Put the big guy up front so he scores." 630 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,717 And he's terrified of coming on 631 00:43:59,428 --> 00:44:01,055 They tell him to warm up and he thinks... 632 00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:03,432 "I'm screwed. I'm screwed." 633 00:44:08,687 --> 00:44:11,190 "If the Doctor finds me out, I'm dead." 634 00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:16,695 I started to warm up and supporters were shouting... 635 00:44:16,695 --> 00:44:19,281 "Long haired faggot!" I thought "Now's my chance." 636 00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:23,077 So, I jumped the fence. 637 00:44:25,704 --> 00:44:27,748 And he fights this fan. 638 00:44:45,140 --> 00:44:46,850 And I was sent off before coming on the pitch. 639 00:44:56,819 --> 00:44:59,405 Castor comes down to the dressing room ready to kill him. 640 00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:06,203 "Kaiser, for God's sake, the boss is going to kill you today." 641 00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:08,831 "What have you done? You're crazy." 642 00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:21,051 I was sitting down and thinking about what I could say. 643 00:45:21,593 --> 00:45:24,096 Then Doctor Castor comes in with his heavies. 644 00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:32,563 When he came up to me, I said... 645 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,064 "Doctor..." 646 00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:37,609 "before you speak, I want to say something." 647 00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:42,740 "I can't tolerate fans saying bad things about you..." 648 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:43,824 "you are incredible." 649 00:45:43,824 --> 00:45:45,284 "You're my father." 650 00:45:48,454 --> 00:45:50,414 "God took away my real father..." 651 00:45:50,789 --> 00:45:51,874 "then he gave me you." 652 00:45:57,171 --> 00:46:00,382 "The fans out there were calling you a crook and a bum..." 653 00:46:00,382 --> 00:46:03,427 "That you're a criminal, you're a villain." 654 00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:05,804 "They were slandering you saying you were a drug baron..." 655 00:46:07,431 --> 00:46:08,265 "Doctor..." 656 00:46:09,266 --> 00:46:11,685 "my contract is up in a fortnight." 657 00:46:11,685 --> 00:46:13,479 "You'll be rid of me in a fortnight." 658 00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,982 "No!" 659 00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:28,535 "Kaiser..." 660 00:46:29,495 --> 00:46:31,455 "You are my friend." 661 00:46:32,831 --> 00:46:35,918 "Three more months on your contract." 662 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,589 "You're my friend. Three more months on your contract!" 663 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:49,139 "Put another six months on Kaiser's contract and double his pay." 664 00:46:49,181 --> 00:46:51,767 And the whole team was like "Fucking hell. How did you manage that?" 665 00:46:55,103 --> 00:46:57,815 He stayed for another three months suckling Castor's tit. 666 00:47:08,242 --> 00:47:10,619 So, by impersonating superstars 667 00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:14,164 and sweet-talking gangster bosses, Kaiser proclaimed... 668 00:47:14,164 --> 00:47:17,709 to be a footballer himself. 669 00:47:17,709 --> 00:47:21,213 Now it was time to do some serious self-promotion, 670 00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:23,507 appear in sporting and gossip columns... 671 00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:26,176 and start to dominate, not just Bangu, 672 00:47:26,176 --> 00:47:28,595 but the entire city of Rio. 673 00:47:35,477 --> 00:47:38,313 There were friendships that Kaiser forged with certain journalists. 674 00:47:38,313 --> 00:47:39,898 Who he'd schmooze. 675 00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:43,485 He'd sell his story and the journalists believed it. 676 00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:49,241 There are loads of interviews with him with many journalists. 677 00:47:49,241 --> 00:47:51,285 He's done loads of TV shows. 678 00:47:51,285 --> 00:47:53,745 It's truly unbelievable. 679 00:47:54,037 --> 00:47:55,956 Actually, this is how it goes. 680 00:47:55,956 --> 00:47:58,709 I was sold to Ajaccio in Corsica. 681 00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:00,294 In French it's "Ajaccienne." 682 00:48:00,669 --> 00:48:02,504 Jairzinho, I was your lucky charm... 683 00:48:03,505 --> 00:48:05,799 I saw you come to Botafogo. 684 00:48:06,216 --> 00:48:07,217 What's up gang. 685 00:48:07,217 --> 00:48:08,844 It's not just any show today. 686 00:48:08,844 --> 00:48:11,013 It's a special show. 687 00:48:11,013 --> 00:48:12,472 You know why? 688 00:48:12,472 --> 00:48:15,309 Why? Because Renato's here. 689 00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:16,602 You're so hot right now. 690 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,607 The important thing is to be happy. 691 00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:27,696 He sold the story of his life being a footballer. 692 00:48:27,696 --> 00:48:29,156 He inhabited the character... 693 00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:32,868 and he talked the talk. 694 00:48:39,583 --> 00:48:41,251 As Kaiser's fame spread, 695 00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:44,755 he was able to get into any football club he wanted. 696 00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:49,009 Trying to work out which club he was at any one time 697 00:48:49,009 --> 00:48:50,260 was impossible. 698 00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:51,929 He was everywhere. 699 00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:54,723 A few weeks here, a few months there. 700 00:48:55,641 --> 00:48:58,185 Dates for me are something I want to forget. 701 00:48:58,185 --> 00:49:03,106 I didn't care about changing clubs all the time. 702 00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:07,694 When a manager told me I wasn't going to play, I was overjoyed. 703 00:49:08,362 --> 00:49:11,156 In order to maintain the life of a footballer, 704 00:49:11,156 --> 00:49:14,409 all Kaiser had to do was make sure he never set foot... 705 00:49:14,409 --> 00:49:16,995 on a pitch, or go near a football. 706 00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:19,665 A famous midfielder for Fluminense… 707 00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:23,710 knocked some guy out in a nightclub and I took the blame. 708 00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:26,129 I saved the players' asses. 709 00:49:29,174 --> 00:49:30,926 He came to Palmeiras. 710 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:36,390 He approached the guy who was marking him from the youth team... 711 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:38,392 and asked: "How much do you earn?" 712 00:49:38,392 --> 00:49:41,812 The guy told him, so he said "I'll give you double that if you injure me." 713 00:49:43,105 --> 00:49:46,858 Training started and the guy slide tackled him and injured him. 714 00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:50,028 Then, when his contract was ending, they extended it. 715 00:49:52,698 --> 00:49:57,995 I arrived at Puebla on a three-year contract but I was sent on loan to America FC. 716 00:49:58,829 --> 00:50:03,375 and the club president came to me and said: "Fuck man you never play!" 717 00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:08,422 "I have the note here and they've finally found what my problem is." 718 00:50:08,422 --> 00:50:10,924 "It's a dental issue." Pure lies. 719 00:50:12,759 --> 00:50:15,262 Many people will wonder why football clubs... 720 00:50:15,262 --> 00:50:16,847 would fall for this. 721 00:50:16,847 --> 00:50:19,141 The first rule for any good businessperson... 722 00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:21,643 is to check your employees' references. 723 00:50:21,643 --> 00:50:24,438 However, in some respects, Kaiser's references 724 00:50:24,438 --> 00:50:26,273 were very good. 725 00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:29,484 Okay, he couldn't deliver on the pitch, 726 00:50:29,484 --> 00:50:32,863 but he certainly delivered off it. 727 00:50:32,863 --> 00:50:35,866 And his particular skills were just what was needed... 728 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:36,908 at Botafogo. 729 00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:43,457 Castor de Andrade's shady work history... 730 00:50:43,457 --> 00:50:45,500 and controlling interest in Bangu 731 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:48,962 wasn't a unique combination in 1980s Brazil. 732 00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:52,716 There were other bicheiros involved in Rio football. 733 00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:57,304 Emil Pinheiro was just like Castor de Andrade. 734 00:50:57,888 --> 00:51:00,515 An absurdly wealthy man. 735 00:51:01,308 --> 00:51:06,354 Top players probably earn more than the President of Brazil. 736 00:51:06,897 --> 00:51:11,443 Emil was more of a small time bicheiro, and Castor was big league. 737 00:51:11,443 --> 00:51:15,405 He wasn't volatile or short tempered like Castor. 738 00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:20,535 Doctor Emil was really funny. He was tiny. He was really short. 739 00:51:20,869 --> 00:51:22,329 And he wore a little wig... 740 00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:24,664 that would occasionally fall out of place. 741 00:51:25,832 --> 00:51:29,294 They needed to launder money they'd earned illegally. 742 00:51:29,294 --> 00:51:32,589 And part of that money went into football. 743 00:51:32,589 --> 00:51:38,386 Legend has it that Pinheiro paid off linesmen and referees. 744 00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:42,140 Emil had wanted to be part 745 00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:44,101 of football for years. 746 00:51:44,101 --> 00:51:46,728 And his old friend, Castor, helped him 747 00:51:46,728 --> 00:51:49,356 get the right introductions to Botafogo. 748 00:51:50,732 --> 00:51:53,318 The club hadn't won a thing since the '70s, 749 00:51:53,318 --> 00:51:56,446 but Emil's briefcases of cash and a favour from Castor 750 00:51:56,446 --> 00:51:58,115 changed all that. 751 00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:02,369 Despite being the bigger bichiero, Castor owed Emil... 752 00:52:02,369 --> 00:52:06,248 a lot of money and rather than start an unnecessary... 753 00:52:06,248 --> 00:52:08,416 turf war, he just let a lot of Bangu players... 754 00:52:08,416 --> 00:52:11,545 join Emil's revolution in Botafogo. 755 00:52:11,545 --> 00:52:15,757 The result, a 1989 state championship. 756 00:52:24,391 --> 00:52:27,144 God had a purpose for me with that goal. 757 00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:34,526 I brought joy to millions of Botafogo fans. 758 00:52:34,526 --> 00:52:37,195 This title is for my aunt... 759 00:52:37,195 --> 00:52:39,156 and for my mum watching at home. 760 00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:44,327 Emil Pinheiro was crucial to that victory. 761 00:52:44,703 --> 00:52:47,080 I can now die peacefully. 762 00:52:47,956 --> 00:52:49,332 Having been patron of the club 763 00:52:49,332 --> 00:52:52,669 for only a year, winning the title meant instant success... 764 00:52:52,669 --> 00:52:54,171 for Emil. 765 00:52:54,171 --> 00:52:59,009 To an outsider, it was almost as if he had a secret weapon. 766 00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:02,220 Can I say what actually happened, or will it be censored? 767 00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,681 Is this film for over-18s? 768 00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:07,017 Can I explain exactly what happened? 769 00:53:07,934 --> 00:53:08,935 Very well... 770 00:53:09,394 --> 00:53:12,189 Emil Pinheiro wasn't around for the Viagra boom. 771 00:53:15,108 --> 00:53:17,360 Being the age he was... 772 00:53:17,861 --> 00:53:20,572 impotence was a reality. Sexual impotence. 773 00:53:21,031 --> 00:53:22,949 So, at the time there was... 774 00:53:23,825 --> 00:53:26,620 a prosthetic surgical procedure. 775 00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:28,371 It was the hot topic. 776 00:53:28,371 --> 00:53:30,582 Doctor Emil's bionic penis. 777 00:53:30,582 --> 00:53:34,628 I took him to get that prosthetic implant... 778 00:53:34,628 --> 00:53:38,048 and it made him really happy 779 00:53:38,757 --> 00:53:40,675 I'm sure he died happy. 780 00:53:41,301 --> 00:53:44,804 And I teased him saying "Doctor Emil you must be over the moon..." 781 00:53:44,804 --> 00:53:48,141 "because I heard you have a new penis." 782 00:53:48,141 --> 00:53:51,019 And Emil would wear these kind of baggy trousers... 783 00:53:51,019 --> 00:53:53,563 so, his thing was king of swaying. 784 00:53:53,563 --> 00:53:55,315 It looked like a piece of wood. 785 00:53:57,192 --> 00:54:02,322 We started to joke with him saying that he had a permanent erection 786 00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:06,618 He would go away and I would say "Guys, I think Emil's penis is bent..." 787 00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:09,704 "because he always returns from the bathroom cleaning his glasses." 788 00:54:11,122 --> 00:54:13,208 Emil made a point of showing it off. 789 00:54:13,208 --> 00:54:17,629 Botafogo had gone ten games without a win. 790 00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:22,133 Emil sat down at the table with the cameras watching. 791 00:54:22,717 --> 00:54:25,470 Since I was the most experienced, I came forward and said... 792 00:54:25,470 --> 00:54:26,429 "President..." 793 00:54:26,429 --> 00:54:28,640 "Botafogo haven't won in ten games." 794 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,268 "What do you have to say about a crisis at Botafogo?" 795 00:54:32,018 --> 00:54:35,313 Emil drummed his fingers on the table... 796 00:54:35,313 --> 00:54:38,316 and in that hoarse voice of his said... 797 00:54:38,316 --> 00:54:39,693 "Sergio Americo..." 798 00:54:39,693 --> 00:54:41,569 " I've looked in the drawer..." 799 00:54:42,028 --> 00:54:43,738 "I've looked in the cupboards..." 800 00:54:44,614 --> 00:54:45,991 "I've looked on the floor..." 801 00:54:46,741 --> 00:54:49,869 "and I couldn't find the Botafogo crisis that you're talking about." 802 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:54,332 Then he grabbed his prosthetic penis and looked at me... 803 00:54:55,333 --> 00:54:56,751 "Sergio Americo..." 804 00:54:56,751 --> 00:55:00,380 "The crisis is here!" 805 00:55:06,094 --> 00:55:08,471 I can't take it. I swear to God. 806 00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:11,599 I actually think I saw his dick accidentally... 807 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,435 because he would wear these tight chinos... 808 00:55:13,435 --> 00:55:16,521 and he was always sat with his dick like this. 809 00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:19,607 I would say: "Guys, that dick is wrong!" 810 00:55:20,567 --> 00:55:22,319 It's no good having a new penis... 811 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:25,363 if you haven't got anyone to use it with. 812 00:55:25,363 --> 00:55:28,908 It is here that Kaiser's unique skills as a professional... 813 00:55:28,908 --> 00:55:31,036 footballer can be fully appreciated. 814 00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:34,539 Emil Pinheiro had a prosthetic penis... 815 00:55:35,540 --> 00:55:38,752 I was always introducing him to women and I would say to him. 816 00:55:39,794 --> 00:55:43,173 "What do you have that makes all these women want to sleep with you?" 817 00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:46,259 And so he warmed to me. 818 00:55:46,259 --> 00:55:48,303 So long as I stayed tight with the President... 819 00:55:49,054 --> 00:55:51,973 I could stay at the club until he wanted me to leave. 820 00:55:51,973 --> 00:55:57,645 If you get a guy like that who knows how to talk... 821 00:55:57,645 --> 00:56:00,023 He would pull his pants down for him. He was that good. 822 00:56:00,023 --> 00:56:01,441 He would roll out a red carpet for him. 823 00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:05,362 As far as the fans were concerned he was a Botafogo player 824 00:56:05,862 --> 00:56:07,155 He always hung out with the players... 825 00:56:08,031 --> 00:56:09,032 was close with the directors. 826 00:56:09,532 --> 00:56:12,619 And Kaiser stayed for five years in Botafogo. 827 00:56:16,331 --> 00:56:18,958 88, '89, '90, '91, '92... Five years. 828 00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:23,046 He was the class pimp. 829 00:56:26,508 --> 00:56:28,051 If Pele scored 1000 goals... 830 00:56:28,051 --> 00:56:31,179 Renato and I scored 2000 with women. 831 00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:36,059 I can't name any players because they're married. 832 00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:39,354 But it was a non-stop slut bonanza. 833 00:56:39,354 --> 00:56:42,732 If you're in Rio de Janeiro, you can't trust the players at all... 834 00:56:42,732 --> 00:56:45,068 because our culture is completely different. 835 00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:49,239 Here it's about samba, partying, women and football. 836 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,327 Give them an inch and they'll take a mile, that's how it is. 837 00:56:56,621 --> 00:57:00,917 He travelled with us and he would always arrive at the hotels... 838 00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:02,627 in Sao Paulo and Belo Horizonte. 839 00:57:02,627 --> 00:57:06,131 And I only later found out why Kaiser travelled with the team. 840 00:57:09,175 --> 00:57:12,512 My currency was what most people had difficulty getting hold of. 841 00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:19,018 I found out what you needed and would exploit that need. 842 00:57:20,645 --> 00:57:23,106 Your weak point. What you like. 843 00:57:26,067 --> 00:57:28,486 He had the whole Botafogo tracksuit... 844 00:57:28,486 --> 00:57:31,197 so when he got to the hotel, he would say: "I play for Botafogo." 845 00:57:33,741 --> 00:57:35,994 He would take 5 or 6 women... 846 00:57:35,994 --> 00:57:38,830 and put them up in the same hotel as the Botafogo team. 847 00:57:46,004 --> 00:57:50,425 So, he puts them all on the 5th floor and we're on the 6th. 848 00:57:51,176 --> 00:57:54,387 You can't keep guard at midnight. You wouldn't sleep. 849 00:57:59,476 --> 00:58:01,019 When the director said... 850 00:58:01,019 --> 00:58:02,896 "You have to be in bed by 10pm", we'd say "Great." 851 00:58:02,896 --> 00:58:05,106 Nobody complained at all. Nobody moaned. 852 00:58:09,110 --> 00:58:11,279 He just went down one floor... 853 00:58:11,946 --> 00:58:15,533 and the players would have their orgy. 854 00:58:23,082 --> 00:58:25,126 I found out about this many years later. 855 00:58:25,126 --> 00:58:27,837 If I'd known, I would have kicked them out of the hotel. 856 00:58:29,672 --> 00:58:31,341 He acted as a pimp. 857 00:58:32,926 --> 00:58:35,553 He earned money bringing women to the players. 858 00:58:37,055 --> 00:58:38,890 Whatever women the guys wanted... 859 00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:41,851 I would bring to them no problem. 860 00:58:41,851 --> 00:58:44,687 Whether it was for directors or players... 861 00:58:46,773 --> 00:58:48,316 If you have money or women... 862 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:50,652 you're the man. 863 00:58:51,903 --> 00:58:54,239 Emil knew about the whole situation... 864 00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:59,536 and he couldn't say anything because if it got out to the press... 865 00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:01,287 it would become a global scandal. 866 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,207 Because we knew that he arranged women for Emil. 867 00:59:06,398 --> 00:59:08,810 He's up with God now because he died a long time ago... 868 00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:10,248 but everybody knew that he supplied him. 869 00:59:11,793 --> 00:59:14,388 My loan with Emil ended up getting renewed. 870 00:59:15,451 --> 00:59:16,219 All the time. 871 00:59:16,219 --> 00:59:18,562 It would end and he would renew it. It would end and he'd renew it. 872 00:59:18,562 --> 00:59:21,260 You've spoken to serious guys... 873 00:59:21,260 --> 00:59:23,612 Alexandre Torres, Bebeto... 874 00:59:23,614 --> 00:59:26,214 all the rest played for Kaiser FC. 875 00:59:26,805 --> 00:59:29,306 I think KFC in the USA was named after me. 876 00:59:30,546 --> 00:59:32,476 Director, scout... 877 00:59:33,461 --> 00:59:34,794 whoremonger... 878 00:59:34,794 --> 00:59:36,094 he was everything imaginable. 879 00:59:36,094 --> 00:59:37,492 But he didn't play. 880 00:59:39,895 --> 00:59:41,923 I've slept with older women for money. 881 00:59:41,923 --> 00:59:44,799 When I was 20 and they were 45, 50, 60... 882 00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:48,363 I've slept with a 70 year old. With no Viagra. 883 00:59:48,363 --> 00:59:50,647 Smashing a pretty girl is easy. 884 00:59:50,647 --> 00:59:53,208 Try sleeping with a granny and getting her off. 885 00:59:53,208 --> 00:59:54,631 You've got to have talent. 886 00:59:59,279 --> 01:00:00,973 Sex is my hobby. 887 01:00:01,642 --> 01:00:04,616 My dream as a little boy wasn't to go to Disneyland. 888 01:00:04,616 --> 01:00:07,156 It was to go to Amsterdam, the land of smut. 889 01:00:07,649 --> 01:00:08,476 What would I do? 890 01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:12,651 Go on the ghost train? Meet Mickey? 891 01:00:12,651 --> 01:00:14,478 That doesn't turn me on. 892 01:00:14,478 --> 01:00:15,920 I'd rather meet Mickey's wife. 893 01:00:17,101 --> 01:00:18,101 Minnie. 894 01:00:18,531 --> 01:00:21,229 If she's hot, I'll give her a squirt. 895 01:00:21,229 --> 01:00:23,356 My hobby is sex. 896 01:00:23,356 --> 01:00:26,724 I have a disease like they say Michael Douglas has. 897 01:00:26,724 --> 01:00:29,855 I'm super nice to people I date... 898 01:00:29,855 --> 01:00:34,050 but after three months... Big hug. See you later. 899 01:00:39,381 --> 01:00:41,773 They're doing a documentary on me. 900 01:00:41,773 --> 01:00:43,314 Interesting. 901 01:00:43,314 --> 01:00:46,826 These English guys came over to make a documentary about me... 902 01:00:46,826 --> 01:00:50,757 as a trainer and an ex-footballer. 903 01:00:50,757 --> 01:00:53,267 I'm not a teacher. I'm a personal trainer. 904 01:00:53,267 --> 01:00:55,320 So, I'll get you looking like a Carnival Queen. 905 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,734 I'm really keen. 906 01:00:57,534 --> 01:01:00,221 It's charisma. 907 01:01:00,221 --> 01:01:05,020 Women like attention from men. 908 01:01:05,020 --> 01:01:08,532 A lot of my students have ugly faces but great bodies, 909 01:01:08,532 --> 01:01:10,513 but you're really pretty. 910 01:01:10,513 --> 01:01:13,659 He gave them that. He was a sweet talker. 911 01:01:13,659 --> 01:01:17,752 He's an upbeat and extrovert guy. 912 01:01:17,752 --> 01:01:19,195 What woman doesn't like that? 913 01:01:19,512 --> 01:01:22,411 And if you've got ten friends, you can bring them too. 914 01:01:23,862 --> 01:01:25,540 He is like an illusionist. 915 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:33,617 If you let him talk, he would very quickly make you believe his story. 916 01:01:33,617 --> 01:01:37,658 Going to Bulgaria, a woman costs as much as a coffee. 917 01:01:37,658 --> 01:01:41,666 He has enough stories to fill a book. A thick book. 918 01:01:41,666 --> 01:01:43,080 Oh parties... 919 01:01:44,064 --> 01:01:46,485 you know with the Italian Prime Minister... 920 01:01:46,485 --> 01:01:47,665 lots of orgies. 921 01:01:47,665 --> 01:01:50,049 Kaiser has a lot of stories. 922 01:01:50,049 --> 01:01:52,371 I think those stories create the legend. 923 01:01:52,371 --> 01:01:57,707 "I went to the Oscars after-party at Robert De Niro's house." 924 01:01:57,707 --> 01:02:00,311 He went out with Ivete Sangalo, they had dinner. 925 01:02:00,311 --> 01:02:04,403 His stories got players dreaming. 926 01:02:04,403 --> 01:02:07,193 I think that's why people liked him so much. 927 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,147 When I arrived at Ajaccio... 928 01:02:15,148 --> 01:02:16,493 He would always talk about Ajaccio. 929 01:02:16,493 --> 01:02:18,762 It was my first week in Corsica... 930 01:02:20,153 --> 01:02:22,414 They gave me a girl as a present. 931 01:02:22,414 --> 01:02:23,893 When I got to El Paso... 932 01:02:25,339 --> 01:02:28,609 They gave me a beautiful blonde prostitute as a present. 933 01:02:28,609 --> 01:02:31,712 "I had played such a good game..." 934 01:02:31,712 --> 01:02:34,848 "the chairman sent for me and said..." 935 01:02:34,848 --> 01:02:36,182 "here's my Ferrari..." 936 01:02:37,498 --> 01:02:38,671 "and my secretary." 937 01:02:39,172 --> 01:02:40,656 "Beautiful, beautiful..." 938 01:02:40,656 --> 01:02:41,833 "a beautiful blonde." 939 01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:46,482 And the younger players who didn't know him... 940 01:02:46,838 --> 01:02:49,040 all ears waiting for what he was going to say. 941 01:02:50,475 --> 01:02:51,742 "What's it like driving a Ferrari?" 942 01:02:51,742 --> 01:02:53,250 "I'll tell you later." 943 01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:58,146 If I'm not mistaken... 944 01:02:58,146 --> 01:03:00,548 she acted in a famous French soap. 945 01:03:01,861 --> 01:03:04,664 With Kaiser, I don't know when he's telling the truth. 946 01:03:04,664 --> 01:03:06,621 I couldn't communicate with her. 947 01:03:08,979 --> 01:03:11,159 If you tell the same lie four times… 948 01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:12,472 it becomes the truth. 949 01:03:15,302 --> 01:03:18,244 "So, I drove up to the mountains..." 950 01:03:18,672 --> 01:03:20,958 We went from motel to motel... 951 01:03:20,958 --> 01:03:23,730 He was engrossed in his own stories... 952 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:27,267 that you'd feel bad calling him out... 953 01:03:27,267 --> 01:03:29,091 "No Kaiser, you're lying mate." 954 01:03:29,091 --> 01:03:30,270 "You're lying." 955 01:03:32,845 --> 01:03:34,405 We managed to get in somewhere... 956 01:03:34,405 --> 01:03:37,066 and I paid upfront. 957 01:03:37,066 --> 01:03:38,356 "she was loving it." 958 01:03:38,356 --> 01:03:40,892 "And I was wanting to seal the deal..." 959 01:03:40,892 --> 01:03:42,782 "She signalled that she couldn't fuck me..." 960 01:03:42,782 --> 01:03:44,673 "because she was on her period." 961 01:03:44,673 --> 01:03:45,755 "On the rag." 962 01:03:45,755 --> 01:03:48,708 I remember exactly how he said it... 963 01:03:48,708 --> 01:03:50,387 "On the rag." 964 01:03:50,387 --> 01:03:53,738 "We can't play today because the pitch is waterlogged." 965 01:03:53,738 --> 01:03:55,790 And the lads were like "Oh what an anti-climax." 966 01:04:01,863 --> 01:04:03,628 "So, I mimed to her..." 967 01:04:03,628 --> 01:04:06,542 "So, I tell her that as I'm such a good sportsman..." 968 01:04:06,542 --> 01:04:08,361 "That as I'm such a good sportsman..." 969 01:04:08,361 --> 01:04:10,385 "When the pitch is wet, I can shoot from behind the goal." 970 01:04:10,385 --> 01:04:14,367 "When the pitch is wet, I can shoot from behind the goal." 971 01:04:18,921 --> 01:04:21,146 The lads couldn't contain themselves. 972 01:04:21,146 --> 01:04:24,126 Everyone cheering like it was a goal. 973 01:04:28,105 --> 01:04:29,685 How are you going to translate that? 974 01:04:30,886 --> 01:04:33,021 That definitely didn't happen. 975 01:04:48,532 --> 01:04:51,402 A good story is a powerful tool, 976 01:04:51,402 --> 01:04:54,005 especially if it's told convincingly... 977 01:04:54,005 --> 01:04:56,718 to a young starstruck fan... 978 01:04:56,718 --> 01:04:58,542 who wants to become the girlfriend... 979 01:04:58,542 --> 01:05:00,849 of the famous Carlos Kaiser. 980 01:05:03,207 --> 01:05:05,454 He isn't Kaiser to me... 981 01:05:05,454 --> 01:05:07,233 he is Carlos Henrique to me. 982 01:05:07,233 --> 01:05:10,970 I think I'm the only person who calls him 'Carlos'. 983 01:05:10,970 --> 01:05:14,252 Back then he was a Vasco player. 984 01:05:14,252 --> 01:05:18,567 It's incredible. I never saw Carlos train, I never saw Carlos play... 985 01:05:18,567 --> 01:05:20,080 unless it was on video. 986 01:05:23,955 --> 01:05:25,828 And I think it was Vasco vs Botafogo. 987 01:05:25,828 --> 01:05:29,398 He came on from the bench, dribbled... 988 01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:31,934 and scored an amazing goal. 989 01:05:31,934 --> 01:05:33,364 Goal for Vasco. 990 01:05:33,364 --> 01:05:35,278 Take another look at that great skill by Henrique! 991 01:05:35,278 --> 01:05:36,682 Perfect run... 992 01:05:36,682 --> 01:05:38,981 followed by a clinical finish. 1-0 to Vasco. 993 01:05:39,937 --> 01:05:42,180 He always said that he was a centre-half. 994 01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:45,146 He would say that he scored a winning goal for Vasco. 995 01:05:46,121 --> 01:05:47,740 They had a centre-half called Henrique... 996 01:05:48,726 --> 01:05:50,952 and since he is called Carlos Henrique it might have been him. 997 01:05:52,508 --> 01:05:55,369 There was another Henrique who played for Vasco and looked like him. 998 01:05:56,115 --> 01:05:58,665 He had the same physique as him. 999 01:05:58,665 --> 01:06:02,283 He gave me a VHS tape and I think I still have that tape. 1000 01:06:02,283 --> 01:06:04,994 I can show it to you, but it's priceless... 1001 01:06:05,772 --> 01:06:07,663 because not even he has it anymore. 1002 01:06:07,663 --> 01:06:09,042 Don't take this the wrong way... 1003 01:06:09,042 --> 01:06:11,712 but are you sure it was actually him scoring the goal? 1004 01:06:12,246 --> 01:06:13,246 Yes. 1005 01:06:14,247 --> 01:06:15,247 I'm sure. 1006 01:06:16,087 --> 01:06:18,600 How do you mean? I didn't get the question. 1007 01:06:24,984 --> 01:06:28,993 He had a DVD of his highlights. 1008 01:06:28,993 --> 01:06:30,286 I don't know how. 1009 01:06:30,775 --> 01:06:33,155 He never showed me, but he told me that there are goals of his on it. 1010 01:06:34,134 --> 01:06:35,602 I don't understand. 1011 01:06:36,083 --> 01:06:38,928 I don't know if he put his head on somebody else's body. 1012 01:06:40,985 --> 01:06:42,720 Pretending to be a Vasco player... 1013 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,467 is relatively easy. 1014 01:06:44,467 --> 01:06:47,742 Actually becoming one is another thing entirely. 1015 01:06:48,765 --> 01:06:51,146 Especially at a time when Vasco's players... 1016 01:06:51,146 --> 01:06:53,937 made up a large part of the national side. 1017 01:06:55,517 --> 01:06:56,765 He was at Vasco with me too. 1018 01:06:57,362 --> 01:06:58,578 Same kind of faking. 1019 01:06:59,357 --> 01:07:01,770 I already knew Kaiser from the Flamengo days. 1020 01:07:02,182 --> 01:07:05,742 But I didn't say anything. When he came there I didn't say anything. 1021 01:07:08,011 --> 01:07:13,345 He turned up at Vasco with another player who he was friends with. 1022 01:07:13,345 --> 01:07:17,060 We began a friendship with him... 1023 01:07:17,060 --> 01:07:22,018 and we started to encourage him to work and train at Vasco... 1024 01:07:22,018 --> 01:07:25,533 something which never happened because he was always injured. 1025 01:07:30,755 --> 01:07:33,421 After six months of Kaiser's injuries, 1026 01:07:33,421 --> 01:07:35,899 Vasco had exhausted all the traditional methods... 1027 01:07:35,899 --> 01:07:37,356 of treatment. 1028 01:07:37,356 --> 01:07:41,432 The only thing left now, was divine intervention. 1029 01:07:42,859 --> 01:07:44,908 The black magic priest Pai Santana... 1030 01:07:44,908 --> 01:07:48,319 performed rituals on me so my bruises would heal. 1031 01:07:50,277 --> 01:07:52,359 Because we wanted to get him on the pitch... 1032 01:07:52,359 --> 01:07:57,089 we would ask Pai Santana to call upon the Gods... 1033 01:07:57,089 --> 01:07:59,714 to get Kaiser to train. 1034 01:08:00,871 --> 01:08:05,053 Pai Santana had all his spells. 1035 01:08:05,342 --> 01:08:07,032 And he went to work on him there. 1036 01:08:07,922 --> 01:08:10,189 I already knew he was faking it. 1037 01:08:10,746 --> 01:08:14,686 I went up to him and said: "Take your money, mate." 1038 01:08:14,686 --> 01:08:18,156 "There's nothing wrong with me. Take your money and don't bother doing your thing..." 1039 01:08:18,156 --> 01:08:20,803 "I intend to stay injured for the rest of my life." 1040 01:08:22,691 --> 01:08:24,562 That was such a funny day. 1041 01:08:25,762 --> 01:08:27,898 Pai Santana had failed. 1042 01:08:27,898 --> 01:08:31,524 Kaiser had even managed to defeat the gods, 1043 01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:34,460 but he was now a Vasco player and he wanted... 1044 01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:35,772 to let everyone know. 1045 01:08:35,772 --> 01:08:39,284 Not on the pitch of course, but on Brazil's... 1046 01:08:39,284 --> 01:08:41,497 biggest football analysis program. 1047 01:08:41,497 --> 01:08:42,587 Mesa Redonda, 1048 01:08:43,466 --> 01:08:46,261 broadcast to millions every Sunday night. 1049 01:08:47,217 --> 01:08:49,341 This was primetime television. 1050 01:08:49,341 --> 01:08:51,405 Only the best would appear on this show. 1051 01:08:52,561 --> 01:08:55,942 I spent 14 years on that time-slot. 1052 01:08:57,009 --> 01:09:01,935 At the table during Mesa Redonda there were a lot of guests. 1053 01:09:01,935 --> 01:09:06,202 The big players like Romario, Edmundo, Renato. 1054 01:09:06,202 --> 01:09:08,477 They never refused to come on. 1055 01:09:08,477 --> 01:09:10,702 So, Carlos Kaiser is a footballer. 1056 01:09:10,702 --> 01:09:12,971 He had a stint at Vasco... 1057 01:09:12,971 --> 01:09:15,565 and he's still contracted to a club in Corsica. 1058 01:09:15,565 --> 01:09:21,527 So, I don't remember that character. Do you have a video? 1059 01:09:21,527 --> 01:09:24,752 I'd been at Ajaccio for two seasons but I wanted to come back here. 1060 01:09:24,752 --> 01:09:26,320 That's when I came to Vasco. 1061 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,391 I researched him. He said he played for Flamengo. 1062 01:09:30,391 --> 01:09:33,772 How would I not have heard of him if he'd played for Flamengo? 1063 01:09:33,772 --> 01:09:36,953 "So, we finally found a place, and she turned to me and said..." 1064 01:09:36,953 --> 01:09:38,452 "she was in that period." 1065 01:09:38,452 --> 01:09:41,510 "It's so sad that period that girls go through." 1066 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:44,235 There's a term that football commentators use which is... 1067 01:09:44,235 --> 01:09:46,115 "a player the fans don't notice." 1068 01:09:46,115 --> 01:09:49,045 Kaiser was never noticed by the fans. 1069 01:09:49,045 --> 01:09:51,648 "When the pitch is wet, I can shoot from behind the goal." 1070 01:09:53,283 --> 01:09:56,748 Nowadays if a proposal like that came to us... 1071 01:09:56,748 --> 01:09:59,478 we'd go on Google and investigate. 1072 01:10:37,195 --> 01:10:40,323 We're at the Clube dos Macacos in Horto... 1073 01:10:40,323 --> 01:10:42,274 in the south zone of Rio de Janeiro. 1074 01:10:42,274 --> 01:10:47,971 and it's a very famous club where people come to play football at the weekend. 1075 01:10:47,971 --> 01:10:50,488 Not that many people come here... 1076 01:10:50,488 --> 01:10:55,786 but it was somewhere Kaiser used to come a lot. 1077 01:10:58,361 --> 01:11:02,438 When I went to France in 1986 I came back for the holidays. 1078 01:11:02,438 --> 01:11:06,497 My brother was living in my apartment and was good friends with Kaiser... 1079 01:11:06,497 --> 01:11:09,381 and he started to get close to me... 1080 01:11:09,381 --> 01:11:15,203 and asked if I had a souvenir from Ajaccio like a shirt or a card... 1081 01:11:15,203 --> 01:11:18,540 something that he could relate to football. 1082 01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:22,360 Then we became friends and went to nightclubs. 1083 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:27,277 And he started saying that he was an Ajaccio player with me. 1084 01:11:30,614 --> 01:11:36,536 And it was right where he took those photos as if he were training at Ajaccio. 1085 01:11:37,977 --> 01:11:40,763 You can see in those photos that it's exactly this same pitch. 1086 01:11:40,763 --> 01:11:44,578 Some things have changed but it's mostly the same with all the trees. 1087 01:11:45,885 --> 01:11:49,016 Anybody in the industry would know that it was a fake. 1088 01:11:49,638 --> 01:11:51,774 First of all, he's wearing a match shirt. 1089 01:11:51,774 --> 01:11:55,867 A training shirt isn't for a match. You're not going to train with a match shirt. 1090 01:11:56,734 --> 01:11:59,115 Obviously, a professional footballer would look at the pictures... 1091 01:11:59,115 --> 01:12:00,738 and just see him in the photo. 1092 01:12:00,738 --> 01:12:03,995 It looks kind of weird because at training... 1093 01:12:03,995 --> 01:12:06,331 you usually have loads of players around. 1094 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,408 All the little tricks and mannerisms the professional players had... 1095 01:12:12,408 --> 01:12:16,124 he was already using. 1096 01:12:16,124 --> 01:12:19,627 Let's imagine that he was studying for a degree. 1097 01:12:19,627 --> 01:12:25,452 He would have nailed the theory side of being a footballer. 1098 01:12:28,210 --> 01:12:31,536 Really funny. Him calling for the ball. 1099 01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:35,362 Pass the fucking ball! 1100 01:12:43,325 --> 01:12:48,163 From now on I would rather tell the complete truth. 1101 01:12:49,284 --> 01:12:54,358 Kaiser never set foot in Ajaccio, not in the city or the airport. 1102 01:13:18,296 --> 01:13:21,511 After the first few recordings we did... 1103 01:13:21,511 --> 01:13:25,198 he called me the following day and asked if you guys... 1104 01:13:25,198 --> 01:13:28,156 had actually come and done an interview with me. 1105 01:13:28,156 --> 01:13:31,242 I told him I had and that I'd told the truth. 1106 01:13:31,242 --> 01:13:35,202 I have my own reputation to think about, I worked and lived there for five years... 1107 01:13:35,783 --> 01:13:40,840 and I can't tarnish my name to promote Carlos Kaiser's lie. 1108 01:13:40,841 --> 01:13:43,546 He got really pissed off and didn't call me again. 1109 01:13:51,116 --> 01:13:53,343 He denies it now so if he doesn't admit that fact... 1110 01:13:55,099 --> 01:13:57,167 I'm not going to be the one to... 1111 01:13:59,586 --> 01:14:00,830 dispute that. 1112 01:14:00,830 --> 01:14:02,108 Everybody knows. 1113 01:14:02,742 --> 01:14:06,210 I was taken by a Brazilian called Fabio Barros, Fabinho. 1114 01:14:06,210 --> 01:14:07,875 It was a Brazilian that recommended me. 1115 01:14:09,675 --> 01:14:12,221 Whom I don't even feel like naming anymore. 1116 01:14:13,948 --> 01:14:15,694 He recommended me. 1117 01:14:16,484 --> 01:14:18,191 He oversaw the deal. 1118 01:14:18,191 --> 01:14:20,608 And I ended up going to Corsica. To Ajaccio. 1119 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,971 I let him live out his fantasy here in Rio ... 1120 01:14:29,971 --> 01:14:35,045 but to say that he was there is too much. I can't. 1121 01:14:35,045 --> 01:14:37,252 But I think he still has it stuck in his head. 1122 01:14:37,252 --> 01:14:38,579 He still believes it. 1123 01:14:41,388 --> 01:14:43,671 When it came to... 1124 01:14:44,998 --> 01:14:48,959 getting the chance to appear alongside the best players of the era. 1125 01:14:48,959 --> 01:14:51,027 He wanted that. 1126 01:14:51,027 --> 01:14:53,758 This is Kaiser speaking. From Rio de Janeiro. 1127 01:15:00,958 --> 01:15:04,366 If he didn't want to talk about Ajaccio he should just say so... 1128 01:15:04,366 --> 01:15:06,883 "I don't want to talk about that." 1129 01:15:06,883 --> 01:15:08,483 And that would be that. 1130 01:15:12,791 --> 01:15:16,013 I think Corsica is one of the most beautiful places on earth. 1131 01:15:16,013 --> 01:15:18,198 He would ask me what life was like in Corsica… 1132 01:15:18,198 --> 01:15:19,397 what the diet was like. 1133 01:15:19,397 --> 01:15:21,382 What the climate was like, what the club's situation was. 1134 01:15:23,655 --> 01:15:27,051 I respect and admire Corsica. I think Corsicans... 1135 01:15:28,543 --> 01:15:31,197 are amazing. An oppressed people. 1136 01:15:34,192 --> 01:15:36,811 He could eventually use that information... 1137 01:15:36,811 --> 01:15:40,842 in sporting interviews that he might give. 1138 01:15:40,842 --> 01:15:43,588 I was sold to Ajaccio in Corsica. 1139 01:15:43,588 --> 01:15:45,325 In French it's: 'Ajaccienne' 1140 01:15:48,056 --> 01:15:50,589 I have nothing to say about Corsica and Ajaccio. 1141 01:15:51,857 --> 01:15:55,054 It's a historical city. 1142 01:15:55,054 --> 01:15:57,270 An innately tough people. 1143 01:15:57,270 --> 01:16:00,895 A people that were born fighting for their values. 1144 01:16:04,241 --> 01:16:07,103 Ajaccio has nothing. Ajaccio is a dead island. 1145 01:16:07,103 --> 01:16:09,331 Speaking about Corsica is difficult. 1146 01:16:09,331 --> 01:16:11,732 "How do they speak there?" 1147 01:16:11,732 --> 01:16:12,764 Comment ca-va? 1148 01:16:12,764 --> 01:16:13,764 Tu va bien? 1149 01:16:13,764 --> 01:16:14,333 Comment ca-va? 1150 01:16:14,341 --> 01:16:15,156 Tu va bien? 1151 01:16:15,156 --> 01:16:16,936 "Je t'aime. I love you" 1152 01:16:16,936 --> 01:16:19,894 Which was the phrase he'd use with the ladies. "Je t'aime." 1153 01:16:20,484 --> 01:16:21,919 Speaking about Corsica is... 1154 01:16:23,432 --> 01:16:24,677 a double edged sword. 1155 01:16:27,747 --> 01:16:30,928 The moment he asked for the card I knew what it was for... 1156 01:16:30,928 --> 01:16:32,551 he'd already told me... 1157 01:16:32,551 --> 01:16:36,630 "That card is one of the most important documents I have in my wallet." 1158 01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:38,913 He knew that was like a status symbol. 1159 01:16:38,913 --> 01:16:41,861 It was like having a footballing contract. 1160 01:16:51,220 --> 01:16:54,423 He knew that in Corsica and in the south of France… 1161 01:16:54,423 --> 01:16:56,831 there was an Italian influence from the Corsican Mafia. 1162 01:16:57,148 --> 01:16:58,478 I can't talk about the Corsicans... 1163 01:16:58,939 --> 01:17:02,548 because they'll send somebody to assassinate me. 1164 01:17:02,548 --> 01:17:06,416 So, he made up that Mancini was part of the Corsican mafia. 1165 01:17:06,416 --> 01:17:08,665 That's all made up. That's not true. 1166 01:17:08,665 --> 01:17:10,584 That's a story created in his head. 1167 01:17:15,033 --> 01:17:16,759 It's a team that always fought. 1168 01:17:18,216 --> 01:17:20,216 A team that even in defeat... 1169 01:17:20,216 --> 01:17:22,348 the players would give everything to win. 1170 01:17:24,662 --> 01:17:25,662 I think Corsica... 1171 01:17:27,152 --> 01:17:28,152 is another world. 1172 01:17:29,321 --> 01:17:30,321 Understood? 1173 01:17:31,934 --> 01:17:36,054 I can guarantee you that he benefited a lot more than I did... 1174 01:17:36,054 --> 01:17:39,024 from having played in Corsica. 1175 01:17:39,302 --> 01:17:41,593 I didn't get onto the programmes he did in Rio... 1176 01:17:41,593 --> 01:17:43,451 or go to the places where he went. 1177 01:17:43,451 --> 01:17:48,030 And then he gave one of the most famous commentators in Brazil... 1178 01:17:48,030 --> 01:17:50,732 the Ajaccio shirt which I'd given to him as a present. 1179 01:17:54,847 --> 01:17:59,808 You could even say he was the Fabinho here in Brazil that I never was. 1180 01:18:04,579 --> 01:18:05,411 It's difficult. 1181 01:18:07,057 --> 01:18:08,692 You can't understand humans. 1182 01:18:12,874 --> 01:18:15,404 I took part in this documentary to tell the truth. 1183 01:18:15,944 --> 01:18:17,428 This is a documentary about the truth. 1184 01:18:18,568 --> 01:18:22,027 If you want to talk about a genuine person I'll talk about Alexandre Couto. 1185 01:18:22,027 --> 01:18:25,350 "Alex, that guy never plays. I already knew that was going to happen..." 1186 01:18:29,176 --> 01:18:30,861 Everything Alexandre says is true. 1187 01:18:31,790 --> 01:18:33,221 He speaks the truth. 1188 01:18:33,749 --> 01:18:35,242 He's not two-faced. 1189 01:18:35,242 --> 01:18:38,958 It was like a wing of protection around Kaiser. 1190 01:18:39,403 --> 01:18:42,629 It's authentic. Alexandre is genuine. He's not two-faced. 1191 01:18:55,275 --> 01:18:57,346 Was Kaiser ever at Ajaccio? 1192 01:18:58,141 --> 01:18:58,683 Never. 1193 01:19:11,808 --> 01:19:13,034 He never played for Ajaccio. 1194 01:19:15,103 --> 01:19:17,786 I did have a conversation with Alexandre after the first interview he did. 1195 01:19:17,786 --> 01:19:19,849 When he said that you guys wanted to speak with me. 1196 01:19:19,849 --> 01:19:22,597 And I said "Alexandre, there's only one way I'm doing that interview." 1197 01:19:22,597 --> 01:19:25,789 "Me telling the truth as far as I know it." 1198 01:19:25,789 --> 01:19:29,765 "I'm not going to be saying things that really didn't happen there." 1199 01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:32,231 Every player knows that story is a lie. 1200 01:19:32,843 --> 01:19:36,609 Especially because they know my story and Fabinho's story. 1201 01:19:36,609 --> 01:19:39,861 So, they all know he was never at Ajaccio. 1202 01:19:39,867 --> 01:19:41,540 I love Kaiser to bits. 1203 01:19:41,540 --> 01:19:45,116 That's the truth. He became a great friend for many years. 1204 01:19:45,828 --> 01:19:50,993 And we've always gone out of our way to indulge his fantasy. 1205 01:19:50,993 --> 01:19:56,483 He lives off that because his daily bread are these football stories. 1206 01:19:56,483 --> 01:19:58,173 He lives off that. 1207 01:19:58,173 --> 01:20:02,102 So, we sometimes play along with his fantasy... 1208 01:20:02,102 --> 01:20:07,203 Kaiser is a football fan. He wanted to be a footballer his whole life. 1209 01:20:07,203 --> 01:20:10,422 And there comes a time when people have to tell the truth. 1210 01:20:10,422 --> 01:20:12,023 What's true and what isn't. 1211 01:20:12,735 --> 01:20:14,237 What he did and didn't do. 1212 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,328 Kaiser. are you a proud man? 1213 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,640 No. 1214 01:20:38,353 --> 01:20:39,437 If I was proud... 1215 01:20:40,816 --> 01:20:43,213 I wouldn't be showing the world my reality... 1216 01:20:44,523 --> 01:20:45,523 which is very different... 1217 01:20:46,888 --> 01:20:48,895 from when I was in football. 1218 01:20:53,299 --> 01:20:56,351 I'm very damaged. I'm a very damaged person. 1219 01:20:58,664 --> 01:21:01,467 That's maybe why I've lived other people's lives so much. 1220 01:21:02,090 --> 01:21:03,090 Of the players. 1221 01:21:05,605 --> 01:21:08,430 It was so I didn't have to stop and think about my life. 1222 01:21:08,430 --> 01:21:10,457 because if I stopped to think about my life... 1223 01:21:11,302 --> 01:21:13,093 I think I would have done something stupid. 1224 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,536 When I was ten my dream was to play football. 1225 01:21:19,758 --> 01:21:22,850 But I wanted to be a footballer to make money for myself... 1226 01:21:27,388 --> 01:21:30,908 to get out of the dump that I lived in. 1227 01:21:32,821 --> 01:21:37,325 There was so much adversity and so much back-stabbing. 1228 01:21:39,683 --> 01:21:41,819 You either become a scammer or a sucker. 1229 01:21:44,621 --> 01:21:45,912 My adoptive mum was an alcoholic. 1230 01:21:47,691 --> 01:21:51,937 She died of cirrhosis and she weighed 200 kilos. 1231 01:21:55,719 --> 01:21:58,477 And then I was left with two elderly aunts... 1232 01:22:00,657 --> 01:22:01,769 very old who were... 1233 01:22:10,578 --> 01:22:12,580 who were cleaning ladies. 1234 01:22:17,852 --> 01:22:22,684 So then I had to take football a bit more seriously to bring money home... 1235 01:22:22,700 --> 01:22:26,288 so those two women wouldn't suffer. 1236 01:22:32,561 --> 01:22:36,921 Then all of a sudden a girl tells me she's pregnant... 1237 01:22:39,991 --> 01:22:43,149 and my son was born even without living with me. 1238 01:22:46,351 --> 01:22:47,999 I didn't give my son any love. 1239 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,212 I don't think I deserve to be anybody's father. 1240 01:22:54,490 --> 01:22:57,836 I don't deserve to be anybody's son or father. 1241 01:23:01,128 --> 01:23:03,217 I tried to be a normal guy. I tried to get married. 1242 01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:07,376 I tried to have a family life. 1243 01:23:09,117 --> 01:23:10,824 Something I didn't have when I was young. 1244 01:23:15,434 --> 01:23:17,080 And then my son dies. 1245 01:23:18,838 --> 01:23:21,351 Then I get married and my wife dies. 1246 01:23:21,351 --> 01:23:24,021 I get married to another woman and she dies. 1247 01:23:24,021 --> 01:23:27,001 I wake up one day with no sight in one eye. 1248 01:23:29,026 --> 01:23:30,026 Fuck. 1249 01:23:33,475 --> 01:23:35,119 In Buddhism they would say... 1250 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,902 that I lost my vision in order to see the world a different way. 1251 01:23:43,060 --> 01:23:44,862 People have an image that's completely... 1252 01:23:46,530 --> 01:23:47,865 different from the reality. 1253 01:23:50,290 --> 01:23:53,515 Carlos Henrique is a man. Carlos Kaiser is a character. 1254 01:23:56,007 --> 01:23:58,978 Carlos Kaiser only exists because Renato Gaucho exists. 1255 01:24:01,792 --> 01:24:04,600 My mum didn't do a third of what that guy did for me. 1256 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,235 And he doesn't do anything anymore because... 1257 01:24:07,700 --> 01:24:08,770 I hide myself away. 1258 01:24:09,104 --> 01:24:12,461 Like I was hiding from the producers of this documentary. 1259 01:24:56,742 --> 01:24:59,244 Whenever I can I help Kaiser out... 1260 01:24:59,244 --> 01:25:03,068 he knows that and there's no ulterior motive. 1261 01:25:05,380 --> 01:25:09,062 There are things that I would avoid talking about with him... 1262 01:25:09,062 --> 01:25:16,466 for example his son, because I didn't want to dwell on the subject. 1263 01:25:18,222 --> 01:25:20,986 Him having that photo at home doesn't surprise me at all... 1264 01:25:20,988 --> 01:25:21,988 being the kind of person he is. 1265 01:25:23,588 --> 01:25:32,785 It's a recognition of the family that he didn't have. 1266 01:25:33,721 --> 01:25:39,958 That flatters me. That makes me happy and very moved. 1267 01:25:39,958 --> 01:25:43,884 It's actually difficult to explain it, to talk about. 1268 01:25:44,211 --> 01:25:47,708 Because not everybody says: "You're more important than my family." 1269 01:25:51,883 --> 01:25:53,211 I live one day at time. 1270 01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:58,352 Today you've managed to strip me down. 1271 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,537 Yesterday I was really pissed off because... 1272 01:26:03,537 --> 01:26:05,995 somebody I thought was a friend denied something. 1273 01:26:05,995 --> 01:26:08,863 Fine. Everybody has their own fears. I have mine too. 1274 01:26:09,790 --> 01:26:11,585 I can't be criticised... 1275 01:26:13,380 --> 01:26:15,370 or the friendships I had. 1276 01:26:15,370 --> 01:26:17,838 Something good had to come my way. 1277 01:26:17,838 --> 01:26:20,920 I could have exploited the opportunities. I didn't harm anybody. 1278 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,788 There's not one person. You've interviewed between 20 to 30 people... 1279 01:26:24,788 --> 01:26:28,995 not one has said that I'm a bad guy, that I'm a drug addict... 1280 01:26:28,995 --> 01:26:31,180 or that I went into their house and stole. 1281 01:26:31,180 --> 01:26:33,287 I never took anything away from anybody. 1282 01:26:34,029 --> 01:26:35,433 Life stole from me. 1283 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,126 I started by losing my mother. 1284 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,057 Now people think I took this and that. 1285 01:26:45,149 --> 01:26:47,784 To take such a beating... 1286 01:26:48,291 --> 01:26:49,930 I didn't take anything from anybody. 1287 01:26:49,930 --> 01:26:53,832 I rode my luck. I didn't take anything. 1288 01:26:55,939 --> 01:26:58,476 That's all I took. I took my luck. 1289 01:26:59,061 --> 01:27:00,270 Nothing from anybody. 1290 01:27:01,363 --> 01:27:03,509 They took something important away from me. 1291 01:27:03,509 --> 01:27:04,728 They took my mother away. 1292 01:27:04,729 --> 01:27:07,510 They took away the woman I married. They took my son away. 1293 01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:09,496 I don't make anybody answer for that. 1294 01:27:09,496 --> 01:27:12,913 I don't make God answer for it. I don't ask my friends to answer for it. 1295 01:27:13,498 --> 01:27:14,543 Fuck! 1296 01:27:14,543 --> 01:27:18,103 Why do I have to suffer so much? 1297 01:27:30,394 --> 01:27:34,475 That Carlos Kaiser who went out to the best places... 1298 01:27:37,324 --> 01:27:40,836 that guy was built on strong legs. 1299 01:27:44,191 --> 01:27:46,262 Because Carlos Henrique... 1300 01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:51,487 jumped over a lot of hurdles. 1301 01:27:52,148 --> 01:27:53,212 Lots. 1302 01:27:56,855 --> 01:27:58,799 I want success for those people who believed... 1303 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,155 in my story. 1304 01:28:05,898 --> 01:28:10,339 And that my story serves as a positive example, not a negative one. 1305 01:28:11,861 --> 01:28:12,861 For the world. 1306 01:28:14,457 --> 01:28:17,403 But if you intend to talk... 1307 01:28:19,042 --> 01:28:21,704 tell the truth from beginning to end. 1308 01:28:21,704 --> 01:28:25,089 I intended that, so I'm here ready to be judged. 1309 01:28:25,089 --> 01:28:26,089 Which is difficult. 1310 01:28:30,381 --> 01:28:33,262 It's almost 13 years since this story ended. 1311 01:28:36,688 --> 01:28:38,561 And it's only come out now. 1312 01:28:38,561 --> 01:28:42,746 Never. Not one reporter, player or director. 1313 01:28:42,746 --> 01:28:46,370 It goes to show how much these guys respect me... 1314 01:28:46,370 --> 01:28:50,048 that nobody ever put me away. 1315 01:28:50,097 --> 01:28:53,072 Now these stories have come to light. 1316 01:28:58,769 --> 01:29:01,562 I swear on my eyes... 1317 01:29:01,564 --> 01:29:03,006 easily 1000 women. 1318 01:29:09,913 --> 01:29:12,585 You know today is the hardest day to do this. 1319 01:29:19,764 --> 01:29:23,237 Today was the toughest day of the documentary. 1320 01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:26,494 It was the day of talking about my suffering. 1321 01:29:26,494 --> 01:29:27,703 But that's ok. 1322 01:29:31,098 --> 01:29:34,063 If the world has to look into my eyes... 1323 01:29:34,063 --> 01:29:35,741 Here it is. 1324 01:29:58,061 --> 01:30:00,255 It was like a fairy-tale. 1325 01:30:03,845 --> 01:30:08,309 You take a character and let him live in the football world. 1326 01:30:08,855 --> 01:30:14,458 And what I think is great, is that people didn't crush the guy's dream. 1327 01:30:19,433 --> 01:30:27,094 A fantastic character who there are no words to describe. 1328 01:30:27,094 --> 01:30:33,298 He's part of my whole life story. 1329 01:30:33,689 --> 01:30:36,693 And he has a black brother here. 1330 01:30:43,639 --> 01:30:45,082 Just a moment please. 1331 01:30:48,282 --> 01:30:49,882 I didn't know he was having problems. 1332 01:31:18,172 --> 01:31:19,600 Carlos Kaiser is unique. 1333 01:31:20,420 --> 01:31:21,629 He's unique. 1334 01:31:21,629 --> 01:31:24,156 He always has been and always will be unique. 1335 01:31:24,156 --> 01:31:26,385 Nobody will come close to him. 1336 01:31:26,385 --> 01:31:30,482 He was the greatest footballer never to have played football. 1337 01:31:30,482 --> 01:31:32,053 In history, without a doubt. 1338 01:31:32,384 --> 01:31:33,384 Unbeatable. 103197

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