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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:07,780 This programme contains some strong language 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:11,140 Out of Ireland have we come 3 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:16,420 Great hatred, little room 4 00:00:16,420 --> 00:00:18,220 Maimed us at the start 5 00:00:21,020 --> 00:00:23,540 I carry from my mother's womb 6 00:00:23,540 --> 00:00:24,860 A fanatic heart. 7 00:00:32,580 --> 00:00:36,740 In 1966, I was 14 8 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:40,620 and Ireland marked the 50th anniversary of its 1916 Rising. 9 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,020 Across that Easter week, 10 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:52,620 the one television station that most of the country could receive 11 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:56,300 was filled with the most appalling, 12 00:00:56,300 --> 00:01:00,900 mawkish, emotional, nationalistic guff. 13 00:01:02,860 --> 00:01:06,580 I felt divorced from my own. 14 00:01:06,580 --> 00:01:11,780 I was engaged in the now and not what seemed to me the prehistoric. 15 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:17,100 For others, it stirred the politics of hatred... 16 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:20,020 ..that found a response 17 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:24,380 in the killings in the north of this island a mere two years later. 18 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:29,460 In my classroom... 19 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:34,380 ..a priest began to read the poetry of WB Yeats. 20 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:40,540 Now, here, I recognised immediately, was the country I belonged to. 21 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:43,660 Here was Ireland articulated - 22 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:48,900 a modern, plural, open, generous country. 23 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:51,820 ..Of dusty wind and after 24 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:53,860 Thunder of feet, tumult of images 25 00:01:53,860 --> 00:01:56,060 Their purpose in the labyrinth of the wind. 26 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:04,300 I mean, you get so annoyed it's so good, you know? 27 00:02:05,420 --> 00:02:08,620 So who was he, this poet? 28 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:11,620 He was the oddest, 29 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:13,300 bravest, 30 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:17,260 downright weirdest of revolutionaries. 31 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:20,540 And he never killed a living soul. 32 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:25,300 Yet it was his revolution that won in the end. 33 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:28,700 The revolution of the Irish mind. 34 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,300 But it was the uprising against the British, 35 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:39,740 fought mostly in Dublin's General Post Office 36 00:02:39,740 --> 00:02:42,060 across Easter week a century ago, 37 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:44,140 that continues to be the central point 38 00:02:44,140 --> 00:02:46,660 of both celebration and controversy. 39 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:48,540 Over the course of a few days, 40 00:02:48,540 --> 00:02:51,460 hundreds died in a shambolic engagement. 41 00:02:51,460 --> 00:02:52,740 What happened next, 42 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:55,340 when the British executed the rebellion's leaders, 43 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:58,220 set the tone of Ireland's often tragic political situation 44 00:02:58,220 --> 00:03:00,580 for the next 100 years. 45 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:07,580 I want to say that the poet WB Yeats 46 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:09,580 not only deserves a place 47 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:13,020 on the national pantheon of liberation 48 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:17,140 occupied by the men and women who fought and died in this building, 49 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:19,220 but actually in front of them. 50 00:03:19,220 --> 00:03:23,100 Yeats sang this country into being 51 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:29,820 by imagining the creation myths so necessary, so required, 52 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:34,420 for building the modern, pluralist, 53 00:03:34,420 --> 00:03:37,220 intellectual underpinnings and institutions 54 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:40,020 necessary for the nation-state. 55 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:44,860 As Gogarty said, there is no Free State without Yeats. 56 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:50,300 And by that, he meant that Ireland doesn't exist without the poet. 57 00:04:00,780 --> 00:04:03,860 Modern Ireland was not born 100 years ago, 58 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:05,660 but 70 years before that 59 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,300 in the charnel house of the Irish famine. 60 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:12,780 Inconceivable hundreds of thousands died of mass starvation, 61 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:15,380 while millions of others escaping the horror 62 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:18,900 slipped away on migrant ships bound for viability. 63 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:20,620 The land lay empty. 64 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:22,740 This was Ireland's year zero. 65 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:26,700 Centuries of dispossession and defeat 66 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,900 had dulled the brain to anything other than brute survival. 67 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:33,260 Just over a decade later, 68 00:04:33,260 --> 00:04:37,140 Yeats is born into the Protestant landowning ruling caste. 69 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:38,860 With devastation all around, 70 00:04:38,860 --> 00:04:42,340 the authority of that class, his class, was destroyed. 71 00:04:42,340 --> 00:04:45,300 Ireland itself and its language was in flux, 72 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:48,140 desperate to be re-moulded into the new. 73 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:51,300 We just needed someone to magic it into life. 74 00:04:54,580 --> 00:04:57,260 I had this thought a while ago 75 00:04:57,260 --> 00:04:59,300 My darling cannot understand 76 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:02,740 What I have done or what would do 77 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:05,060 In this blind, bitter land. 78 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:12,420 Willie Yeats was born in interesting times and to an interesting family. 79 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:13,980 His father, John Butler Yeats, 80 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,820 was a South Dublin barrister with good prospects. 81 00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:20,540 Everything was perfectly Victorian and lovely and...proper. 82 00:05:22,460 --> 00:05:28,580 His dad then decided that this wasn't going to be for him. 83 00:05:28,580 --> 00:05:31,060 He suddenly drops his family, drops everything 84 00:05:31,060 --> 00:05:33,260 and heads off to London, 85 00:05:33,260 --> 00:05:36,060 where he enrols in the Slade School of Art. 86 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:37,580 And from then on, 87 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:40,740 they live a life of complete poverty. 88 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:45,260 Now, I think this is an act of great bravery. 89 00:05:45,260 --> 00:05:47,700 His family thought it was an act of insanity. 90 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:49,860 But in so much else at that time, 91 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:53,340 I think his father was really feeling the moment. 92 00:05:53,340 --> 00:05:56,980 This was a point of soon-to-be cultural revolution 93 00:05:56,980 --> 00:05:59,660 as opposed to armed insurrection. 94 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:00,860 There was a difference. 95 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:02,780 And he was completely rejecting 96 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,620 the background that he had inherited. 97 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:07,580 He was the ultimate bohemian 98 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:10,740 and he set out to live the ultimate bohemian's life. 99 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:13,580 He was determined not to bring his children up 100 00:06:13,580 --> 00:06:16,020 as he had been brought up, with those expectations. 101 00:06:16,020 --> 00:06:19,020 He kept them away from school. Why? 102 00:06:19,020 --> 00:06:21,140 Because he said of Willie Yeats, 103 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:25,260 "The boy must learn to believe in art and poetry 104 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:29,060 "and the sovereignty of the intellect and the mind." 105 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:31,980 To escape this bohemian penury, 106 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:34,460 Willie Yeats's mother would regularly take her children 107 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:38,180 to her family, the Pollexfens, a prosperous trading dynasty 108 00:06:38,180 --> 00:06:41,540 based in Sligo town in the north-west of Ireland. 109 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:44,820 Susan Yeats bringing her brood to Sligo 110 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:49,180 is the birthplace of WB's dream-like vision of Ireland. 111 00:06:49,180 --> 00:06:52,740 It's sort of sad that his mother is left out of the equation so much. 112 00:06:52,740 --> 00:06:54,980 Take me through the family. 113 00:06:54,980 --> 00:06:57,020 Yeats's mother's family 114 00:06:57,020 --> 00:07:00,300 is in some ways much more important in his background 115 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:01,820 than his father's family. 116 00:07:01,820 --> 00:07:04,060 They provide the background 117 00:07:04,060 --> 00:07:07,140 that the kids go to in Sligo in the summers. 118 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:09,420 They are in Merville, this nice big house 119 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:13,940 with servants, with fires, with ample everything. 120 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:16,460 Very much integrated into that world 121 00:07:16,460 --> 00:07:22,740 of the Protestant bourgeoisie of a prosperous Irish provincial town. 122 00:07:22,740 --> 00:07:27,180 But its hinterland is this magic landscape of lakes and mountains 123 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:29,100 and myth and magic, 124 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:32,100 which is conveyed to them by the servants, 125 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:34,300 who tell them these stories, 126 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:37,540 and the local children with whom they play. 127 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:40,980 For Yeats and his sisters, Lily and Lolly, 128 00:07:40,980 --> 00:07:42,220 and his brother, Jack, 129 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:46,300 that is their absolute formative experience. 130 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:51,500 That hinterland revolved around Rosses Point, 131 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:54,900 a few miles outside of Sligo town. 132 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:58,900 What a playground for the shy, dreamy kid and his siblings. 133 00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:08,260 This is the place where this crazed, imaginative family took off. 134 00:08:08,260 --> 00:08:10,500 In fact, in the frontispiece of this book 135 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:13,660 is a reproduction of Jack Yeats's Memory Harbour, 136 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:16,060 which was Willie's favourite painting of his, 137 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:18,300 and many people's favourite painting. 138 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:20,500 It actually is a brilliant piece of work. 139 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,260 And here's the little road here. 140 00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:25,460 At the time, there were beautiful cottages, 141 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:26,940 unfortunately all gone, 142 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:29,540 leading up to where we're standing now, Elsinore. 143 00:08:29,540 --> 00:08:33,060 This is the old pilot that used to take Willie and Jack fishing. 144 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:38,420 They'd go out for a day's fishing 145 00:08:38,420 --> 00:08:41,140 and they'd come back and they'd sit around 146 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:43,580 and the pilot would tell them stories 147 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:45,980 and there would be other kids here. 148 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:48,940 And it doesn't matter, you know, what age you are from. 149 00:08:48,940 --> 00:08:52,500 I mean, why would you just not remember that always forever 150 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:55,220 as being a part of your life that was wonderful? 151 00:08:57,020 --> 00:08:59,820 With the wind, you know, crackling away outside, 152 00:08:59,820 --> 00:09:03,060 you can see the lads running home and, you know, 153 00:09:03,060 --> 00:09:04,700 full of stories and scared stiff 154 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:07,460 that they were going to bump into a fairy wrath 155 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:09,780 or hear the banshee wailing. 156 00:09:09,780 --> 00:09:11,540 Funny as that is as a kid, 157 00:09:11,540 --> 00:09:13,860 everyone was afraid of that stuff, you know? 158 00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:17,780 Out here, Willie was immersed in fairy folklore. 159 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:20,620 But this wasn't Peter Pan and Tinkerbell stuff, 160 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:23,580 this was dark, pagan, malevolent 161 00:09:23,580 --> 00:09:27,380 and utterly accepted, completely believed. 162 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:32,460 There was another world as tangible and real and dangerous as this one. 163 00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:35,540 The night Willie's three-year-old brother died of croup, 164 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:37,540 his mother said she heard the wailing 165 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:41,660 of a witchlike harbinger of death the Irish call the banshee. 166 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:43,660 Away with us he's going 167 00:09:43,660 --> 00:09:45,060 The solemn-eyed 168 00:09:45,060 --> 00:09:50,540 He'll hear no more the lowing of the calves on the warm hillside 169 00:09:50,540 --> 00:09:52,820 Or the kettle on the hob 170 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:56,500 Sing peace into his breast 171 00:09:56,500 --> 00:10:01,940 Or see the brown mice bob round and round the oatmeal chest 172 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:07,020 For he comes, the human child 173 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:10,260 To the waters and the wild 174 00:10:10,260 --> 00:10:13,380 With a faery, hand in hand 175 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:17,180 From a world more full of weeping 176 00:10:17,180 --> 00:10:18,940 Than he can understand. 177 00:10:21,820 --> 00:10:24,900 He did say a wonderful thing. 178 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:30,340 He said the Sligo sea cliffs gave tongue to his poetry. Mmm. 179 00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:32,100 That's no small sentence. 180 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:37,340 The west of Ireland had endured 181 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:39,740 the worst agonies of the great famine. 182 00:10:39,740 --> 00:10:42,580 That can't have gone unnoticed by the young Willie Yeats. 183 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:46,460 Stories and songs of ghosts, spirits, shades, banshees, 184 00:10:46,460 --> 00:10:51,100 angry tales of loss, stolen lives and vanishing responsibilities. 185 00:10:53,780 --> 00:10:56,660 From 1801, Ireland has been part of Britain. 186 00:10:56,660 --> 00:10:59,220 But the famine comes along and it turns out 187 00:10:59,220 --> 00:11:02,700 that you're not really British if you live in Connemara 188 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:05,820 in the same sense that you would be if you lived in Surrey, 189 00:11:05,820 --> 00:11:08,420 and that you are a surplus population 190 00:11:08,420 --> 00:11:10,620 and your children don't matter 191 00:11:10,620 --> 00:11:13,100 and, you know, this entire culture can disappear 192 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:14,700 and no-one will care. 193 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:17,140 And I think part of Yeats's brilliance 194 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:19,660 is that he is one of the first people to see 195 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:21,340 this will have to be rescued 196 00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:24,180 and myself and my friends are going to have to do it. 197 00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:28,220 And stage one in his evolution as a writer 198 00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:32,740 is to just try to put his arms around the wreckage 199 00:11:32,740 --> 00:11:35,140 and see, "Is there anything left there?" 200 00:11:36,220 --> 00:11:39,700 Yeats was caught in the half-light, a Celtic twilight, 201 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:42,980 a moment where nobody knew who or what they were. 202 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:46,380 Everything could be remade, rewritten. 203 00:11:46,380 --> 00:11:50,020 The ancient folktales and fairy stories that Willie heard here 204 00:11:50,020 --> 00:11:53,940 ignited a lifelong fascination with Irishness 205 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:55,300 and with "the other". 206 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:57,340 A kind of escape from reality 207 00:11:57,340 --> 00:12:01,780 where he could find imagery and metaphors for his writing. 208 00:12:01,780 --> 00:12:04,940 Yeats wrote, "The mystical world is at the centre 209 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:07,060 "of all I do, think and write." 210 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:10,660 All of that started here in that little pilot's cottage, 211 00:12:10,660 --> 00:12:12,100 listening to the stories. 212 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,100 Though I am old with wandering 213 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:17,500 Through hollow lands and hilly lands 214 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,860 I will find out where she has gone 215 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:22,940 And kiss her lips and take her hands 216 00:12:22,940 --> 00:12:25,580 And walk among long dappled grass 217 00:12:25,580 --> 00:12:28,860 And pluck till time and times are done 218 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:31,260 The silver apples of the moon 219 00:12:31,260 --> 00:12:33,700 The golden apples of the sun. 220 00:12:43,020 --> 00:12:46,340 Whilst Sligo ignited his mystical, spiritual side, 221 00:12:46,340 --> 00:12:49,220 in London, with its vast, swirling stew, 222 00:12:49,220 --> 00:12:53,180 the centre of global, political, economic and cultural action, 223 00:12:53,180 --> 00:12:56,900 Yeats found himself thrillingly at the very heart 224 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:59,500 of European revolutionary ideas. 225 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,940 Depending on the state of the family finances, 226 00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:04,980 the Yeatses flitted between lodgings in Dublin and London. 227 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:07,460 He was educated between the two cities, 228 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:10,980 actually training to be an artist like his dad and brother. 229 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:12,860 It was a time of new ideas - 230 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:17,780 socialism, anarchism, Marxism, Darwinism, the death of God, 231 00:13:17,780 --> 00:13:19,820 the search for new answers 232 00:13:19,820 --> 00:13:22,500 opening different doors of perception. 233 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:26,620 It was like the '60s, fuelled by hashish and mescaline. 234 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:29,060 Willie became more obsessed with the numinous, 235 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:30,580 the mystical and spiritual, 236 00:13:30,580 --> 00:13:32,340 mingling with theosophists, 237 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:36,260 Rosicrucianists, Kabbalists, gurus, swamis, 238 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:38,900 and the secretive, bizarre Order Of The Golden Dawn. 239 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:42,980 You have to envy Willie and the wild London he arrived into. 240 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:47,620 You can do Dublin in two days. 241 00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:50,860 You know, you can walk through it and find its things. 242 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:54,580 You can't do London in a lifetime, I've found. 243 00:13:54,580 --> 00:13:58,820 Getting lost here is one of the best educations you could possibly have. 244 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:01,660 But this was also the year of salon culture, 245 00:14:01,660 --> 00:14:04,140 decadence, symbolists, literary clubs 246 00:14:04,140 --> 00:14:07,340 and endless debate at places like the Cheshire Cheese. 247 00:14:07,340 --> 00:14:10,980 By the time 22-year-old WB arrived in 1887 248 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:14,100 full of fairy tales and Celtic mysticism, 249 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:15,900 London would have loved him. 250 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:19,180 Even though he had barely published a handful of plays and prose, 251 00:14:19,180 --> 00:14:20,620 London and Europe were alive 252 00:14:20,620 --> 00:14:24,020 to what would eventually be called the Celtic Revival. 253 00:14:24,020 --> 00:14:27,780 Young Willie found himself in the right city at the right time 254 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:29,540 and in the right house. 255 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:36,380 He ended up here, in a sort of artists' colony 256 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:39,660 specifically built for that purpose, called Bedford Park. 257 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:43,540 And he found a very cheap house, as Willie called it, 258 00:14:43,540 --> 00:14:45,140 spelling it C-H-E-E-P. 259 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:48,180 He was a hopeless speller all his life. 260 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:50,220 It cost 50 quid per annum, 261 00:14:50,220 --> 00:14:54,100 and that was largely because the drains were a bit dodgy. 262 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:57,140 Now, it's pretty mega, really. 263 00:14:57,140 --> 00:15:00,540 I mean, you'd pay a lot of money for these places. 264 00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:04,220 It's beautiful, isn't it? 265 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:10,140 It's hard to think about the... 266 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:13,260 absolute poverty that this family lived in. 267 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:16,580 There was often literally no food in the house. 268 00:15:16,580 --> 00:15:20,100 Clothes were never changed for anything new 269 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:24,780 and even when it was down to the last, literally, the last penny, 270 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:27,500 there was a vote in the family as to what to spend it on 271 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:30,380 and the majority chose to spend that last penny 272 00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:32,060 on the Pall Mall Gazette, 273 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:35,260 which Lily in her diary remarked, "Money well spent." 274 00:15:37,060 --> 00:15:41,300 Yeats was just another young Irish playwright and occasional poet. 275 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:43,420 But at Christmas 1888, 276 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:47,020 he was invited for lunch with the glamorous Wildes. 277 00:15:47,020 --> 00:15:50,740 That day, Oscar jealously recognising the young poet's genius, 278 00:15:50,740 --> 00:15:54,380 held forth on just how bad the Irish actually were at poetry. 279 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:56,620 "Brilliant failures," he called them. 280 00:15:56,620 --> 00:16:00,140 But more crucially, the great star told WB 281 00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:02,500 it wasn't simply enough to be a poet, 282 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,540 you had to look like a poet. 283 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:06,860 You had to act like a poet. 284 00:16:07,980 --> 00:16:09,540 Willie rephrased it later, 285 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:11,820 "Myself I must remake." 286 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:14,900 The start of a lifelong fascination with image, masks, 287 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:17,540 the constant reinvention of the artist. 288 00:16:20,540 --> 00:16:22,820 With myself I must remake, 289 00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:29,340 this Wildean and utterly modern concept was made concrete. 290 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:31,700 I believe at that precise moment, 291 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:34,340 and possibly the realisation that occurred in this room 292 00:16:34,340 --> 00:16:35,780 or in his bedroom upstairs, 293 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:40,140 WB Yeats, the poet that we know, was born. 294 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:43,740 Yeats the poet was coming into focus. 295 00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:46,620 He was creating the man and the myth. 296 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:48,220 All he needed was the muse. 297 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:53,700 Then, in January 1889, a beauty came to call. 298 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:57,780 A notorious young English-born Irish nationalist, a feminist, 299 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:00,700 activist, Ireland's Joan of Arc they would call her, 300 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:02,420 and she was about to ignite 301 00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:04,900 Ireland's greatest unrequited love story. 302 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,340 As Willie said, "The troubling of my life began." 303 00:17:10,620 --> 00:17:14,340 Maud Gonne pulled up outside that window 304 00:17:14,340 --> 00:17:16,580 in a hansom cab 305 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:19,140 and she wandered into the room here 306 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:24,580 and the family were stunned by this great star, this beauty. 307 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:26,380 It just all coalesced. 308 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:29,420 Here was the image of the Ireland he foresaw. 309 00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:34,300 She was pulling him in to that orbit that she inhabited 310 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:36,380 of radical nationalism. 311 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:38,540 He was there willing and ready for it, 312 00:17:38,540 --> 00:17:40,020 particularly in London, 313 00:17:40,020 --> 00:17:43,260 as he dreamt of this idyllic other Ireland. 314 00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:46,060 He became as militantly nationalistic as she was, 315 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:50,140 as patriotic as any of the great rebels. 316 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:54,220 And he had found a way of expressing that, 317 00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:56,860 of focusing on it through her 318 00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:59,980 in a way that never killed anybody. 319 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:03,780 Because of that great nobleness of hers 320 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:07,020 The fires that stirs about her when she stirs 321 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:09,980 Burns but more clearly 322 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:11,940 O she had not these ways 323 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:14,620 When all the wild summer was in her gaze 324 00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:16,940 O heart! O heart! 325 00:18:16,940 --> 00:18:18,660 If she'd but turn her head 326 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:21,140 You'd know the folly of being comforted. 327 00:18:21,140 --> 00:18:25,060 She needs a country and a cause. 328 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:28,980 And in Yeats, he found the troubling of his life 329 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:31,900 and she found a poet for the cause. Isn't that really it? 330 00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:34,660 They're both in search of authenticity 331 00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:36,700 but it's a different kind of authenticity. 332 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,020 Yeats is also looking for an Irish authenticity, 333 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:41,620 cos he is this marginalised, odd, 334 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:44,300 at an angle to the universe Protestant. 335 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:46,060 She's looking for an authenticity 336 00:18:46,060 --> 00:18:47,900 because she is a ruthless peripatetic. 337 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:50,420 Her beloved father dies, she doesn't have a mother. 338 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:53,500 Neither of them, in a sense, has a mother. It's interesting. 339 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,700 And I think they're looking for something to cling to. 340 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:00,220 They were immensely close as friends, 341 00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:04,100 leaving aside the sexual aspects of his obsession with her. 342 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:08,020 When you are old and grey 343 00:19:08,020 --> 00:19:11,620 And full of sleep and nodding by the fire 344 00:19:11,620 --> 00:19:15,700 Take down this book and slowly read 345 00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:19,460 And dream of the soft look your eyes had once 346 00:19:19,460 --> 00:19:21,900 And of their shadows deep. 347 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:25,380 How many loved your moments of glad grace? 348 00:19:25,380 --> 00:19:29,500 And loved your beauty with love, false or true? 349 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:34,300 But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you 350 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:36,820 And loved the sorrows of your changing face. 351 00:19:37,980 --> 00:19:40,060 He always classicises her, 352 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:43,900 which in a sense lifts her out of the everyday. 353 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:46,580 As he always said, she doesn't belong in this world. 354 00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:48,340 What's she doing here? 355 00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:52,180 I had a thought for no-one's but your ears 356 00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:55,500 That you were beautiful, and that I strove 357 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:58,540 To love you in the old high way of love 358 00:19:58,540 --> 00:20:01,180 That it had all seemed happy 359 00:20:01,180 --> 00:20:05,140 And yet we'd grown as weary-hearted 360 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,660 As that hollow moon. 361 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:15,380 God, it just grips you, that last line, every time! 362 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,660 I thought, "I won't tear up on that." 363 00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:20,780 But, fuck, it just does. Anyway... 364 00:20:22,820 --> 00:20:25,340 She gets this endless sort of stuff. Do... 365 00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:27,380 I mean, put yourself in her position. 366 00:20:27,380 --> 00:20:31,300 Does she go, "I just went to his house and I sat in a bloody chair," 367 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:33,020 you know? "Had a cup of tea." 368 00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:35,700 I mean, that would be it, wouldn't it? 369 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:38,180 And he's going, "Oh, my love..." 370 00:20:38,180 --> 00:20:40,300 Oh, come on. I'm not going, "Oh, come on," 371 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:42,580 I'm saying, what would you do if you were her? 372 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:44,020 Well, that's why I say come on. 373 00:20:44,020 --> 00:20:48,420 You know perfectly well that if somebody is completely mad about you 374 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:49,780 and telling you, 375 00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:52,980 that's the least attractive thing possible that can be done. 376 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:56,100 The way to have someone in love with you 377 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,380 is clearly not to be in love with them. 378 00:20:59,380 --> 00:21:05,380 And when you get this kind of almost abasing stuff 379 00:21:05,380 --> 00:21:09,220 being sent to you, it's the biggest turnoff there is. 380 00:21:10,820 --> 00:21:13,740 Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths 381 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:17,300 Enwrought with golden and silver light 382 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:19,580 The blue and the dim and the dark cloths 383 00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:22,220 Of night and light and the half-light 384 00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:24,660 I would spread the cloths under your feet 385 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:29,340 But I, being poor, have only my dreams 386 00:21:29,340 --> 00:21:32,580 I have spread my dreams under your feet 387 00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:38,500 Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. 388 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:41,980 If he came along to you and said, "Edna, when you are old and tired 389 00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:43,700 "and grey and full of sleep, 390 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,620 "take down this book and read and dream of this..." 391 00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:48,860 I mean, would you swoon and just shag him? 392 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:51,980 Probably, yeah. 393 00:21:51,980 --> 00:21:53,140 See, that's it. 394 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:03,140 Maud was a radical, a hard and violent revolutionary. 395 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:04,220 Willie? 396 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:06,100 Willie was a lovestruck dreamer. 397 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,220 No doubt she helped focus those dreams 398 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:10,140 at a time when Charles Stewart Parnell 399 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:12,980 was leading a democratic charge for Irish home rule, 400 00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:15,140 while the Irish Republican Brotherhood 401 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:17,540 were stirring the boiling pot of revolt. 402 00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:24,420 But WB Yeats simply believed in Ireland - 403 00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:28,420 in its stories, its legends, its dream time and its people. 404 00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:31,860 He wanted to go back beyond oppression and rebellions, 405 00:22:31,860 --> 00:22:34,220 beyond famine, beyond Christianity, 406 00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:38,180 to an earlier time of Homeric warrior heroes. 407 00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:41,260 And he was doing it afresh in the English language, 408 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:45,580 making it modern, relevant, full of magic and wonder. 409 00:22:45,580 --> 00:22:48,220 On a visit to Douglas Hyde in Roscommon, 410 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:50,860 Yeats discovered Castle Island in Lough Key, 411 00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:54,340 where he and Maud imagined creating a new Irish faith, 412 00:22:54,340 --> 00:22:56,500 an order of Celtic mysteries, 413 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,260 to awaken an Irish sense of identity. 414 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:02,620 Not anti-English, just uniquely Irish. 415 00:23:02,620 --> 00:23:06,260 The perfect combination of her nationalism and his mysticism. 416 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:09,900 Maud Gonne would have been mad for it. 417 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:12,820 I mean, absolutely she would have loved this. 418 00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:14,220 And he sort of said, 419 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:19,020 "Well, we can also make it into an island of heroes, Celtic heroes." 420 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:23,220 He sort of was edging towards getting her on board 421 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:25,740 so that he could be with her, so that, you know, 422 00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:28,620 the love affair could continue on several planes - 423 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:32,060 mystic as well as carnal, and... 424 00:23:34,260 --> 00:23:36,900 ..I'm sure in the back of his mind he thought, 425 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:39,980 "Maud and I will end up here. This is perfect for us." 426 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:41,980 It is terminally romantic. 427 00:23:44,060 --> 00:23:46,140 Unfortunately for Willie, 428 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:49,300 Maud was more in love with revolution than romance. 429 00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:55,380 Like many a young Irishman before and since, 430 00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:59,060 WB Yeats in 1880s London is broke. 431 00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:00,980 He's in love with a girl who doesn't want him. 432 00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:03,100 He's waiting for his first book to come out 433 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:04,740 and he's an unmade man, 434 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:07,180 a sexually frustrated virgin. 435 00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:09,740 He's full of longing for success, 436 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:11,980 for Maud, for home, for Ireland. 437 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:16,820 But clearly he missed Sligo when he first came. 438 00:24:16,820 --> 00:24:19,180 You know, that longing for that which is familiar - 439 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:22,900 those smells, those sights, those relationships. 440 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:36,500 The kind of poetry WB Yeats was dreaming into life 441 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:39,660 would need to be written with distance from afar, 442 00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:41,700 on literally the concrete empiricism 443 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:45,980 of the grey pavements of the capital of the world. 444 00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:48,620 The literary revival he was at the centre of 445 00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:51,260 was fuelled by an unspecific yearning, 446 00:24:51,260 --> 00:24:55,060 inventing a new idealised version of the self, of the people, 447 00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:56,580 of Ireland. 448 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:58,020 The Celtic Twilight, 449 00:24:58,020 --> 00:25:02,780 or Cultic Toilette, as James Joyce, the young punk would later call it, 450 00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:05,060 was triggered by a memory - 451 00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:08,820 a city street, a sign, a woman, a shop window. 452 00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:14,580 Keep your eyes open for fairies, will you, Smithy? I will, yeah. 453 00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:21,020 He adored this part of the world. 454 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,180 Pined for this, pined for it. 455 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:28,220 So I'm not surprised, given his financial circumstances, 456 00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:30,860 his romantic circumstances, his family circumstances, 457 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:35,380 his panic over his first big book, 458 00:25:35,380 --> 00:25:38,460 that you want to get out. 459 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:42,260 You know, you want to escape, you want to run away and you can't. 460 00:25:42,260 --> 00:25:45,900 And I suppose the word "free" pops into everyone's mind. 461 00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:50,580 I will arise and go now 462 00:25:50,580 --> 00:25:52,380 And go to Innisfree 463 00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:54,940 And a small cabin build there 464 00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:57,860 Of clay and wattles made 465 00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:00,980 Nine bean-rows will I have there 466 00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:03,420 A hive for the honey-bee 467 00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:06,820 And live alone in the bee-loud glade 468 00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:10,420 And I shall have some peace there 469 00:26:10,420 --> 00:26:12,700 For peace comes dropping slow 470 00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:16,580 Dropping from the veils of the morning 471 00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:17,980 To where the cricket sings 472 00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:21,500 There midnight's all a glimmer 473 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:24,700 And noon a purple glow 474 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:27,500 And evening full of the linnet's wings 475 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:33,820 I will rise and go now 476 00:26:33,820 --> 00:26:35,860 For always night and day 477 00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:41,220 I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore... 478 00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:45,420 Oh, it is lapping. Listen. 479 00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:54,540 "I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore." 480 00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:56,900 While I stand on roadway 481 00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,220 Or on the pavements grey 482 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:04,620 I hear it in the deep heart's core. 483 00:27:06,580 --> 00:27:09,100 The choice of words is... 484 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:10,900 is masterly. 485 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:14,380 You know, nine bean-rows, a hive for the honey-bee, 486 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:16,300 the bee-loud glade. 487 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:20,460 You don't ever have to come here, you know, he's just done it for you. 488 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:25,900 Dublin in the 1880s was the second city of the Empire 489 00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:27,500 and just as much a hotbed 490 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,100 of political thought and debate as London. 491 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:33,420 Yeats was beginning to believe not just in a romantic Ireland 492 00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:37,620 but one that could stand culturally and politically on its own two feet. 493 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:41,740 He would be a fervent nationalist all his life 494 00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:45,740 and he put that down to meeting just one man in 1885, 495 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:49,180 the old Irish revolutionary called John O'Leary. 496 00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:53,260 Willie's father, JB, brings him along one day 497 00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:57,540 to meet fellow intellectuals in the Contemporary Club. 498 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:03,300 And Yeats meets this sort of patriarchal figure 499 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,940 who is a revolutionary. 500 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:08,700 O'Leary had said, "We need a poet." 501 00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,300 Of course he would say that, he was one of the Young Irelanders. 502 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,580 That's how you got ideas across. 503 00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:15,220 And he was waiting, waiting, 504 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:18,660 and this beautiful boy walks into the room 505 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:24,140 and he is the son of his friend and he reads his, sort of, 506 00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:28,380 you know, his early stuff, which is still amazing, 507 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,300 and he goes, "He's the fella." 508 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:34,100 And he brings him along. 509 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,980 He instructs him, he takes him under his wing. 510 00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:42,420 O'Leary had been tried for treason in the year WB was born 511 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,260 and he helped found the Irish Republican Brotherhood, 512 00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:46,860 a secret organisation 513 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:50,940 whose sole aim was an independent, democratic Irish Republic, 514 00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:54,180 and whose oath swore absolute allegiance to that aim. 515 00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:59,620 Bizarrely, an oath O'Leary himself refused to take. 516 00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:02,820 Ultimately, the IRB would be the cabal 517 00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:05,620 at the heart of the 1916 Easter Rising. 518 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:09,660 It's almost certain that Yeats took the oath, 519 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,060 the revolutionary oath. 520 00:29:11,060 --> 00:29:14,300 And he may very well have done that because he believed it, 521 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,940 or to be in with the lads, or to further his career, 522 00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:20,380 or to, you know, tip the wing to Maud that, 523 00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:22,620 "I am a fellow traveller here, you can count on me. 524 00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:25,260 "I'm with you all the way, Maud, now can we shag?" 525 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,980 By the 1890s, WB's words were growing in stature. 526 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:34,940 But his political, spiritual and emotional life 527 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:37,100 revolved around his Helen of Troy, 528 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,900 his beloved Maud. 529 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:40,700 To Willie, she was Ireland, 530 00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,660 but she had never been fully honest with him. 531 00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:45,180 The year she met him, 532 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:47,900 she'd had a son with a right wing French radical 533 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:49,540 called Lucien Millevoye. 534 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:51,260 When that son died of meningitis, 535 00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:53,300 Maud Gonne could not hide her grief 536 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:56,580 but told Willie the child wasn't hers, that it was adopted. 537 00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:00,260 To try to help in any way, 538 00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:03,020 WB brought Maud to see his friend 539 00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:06,860 and mystic writer and artist AE George Russell 540 00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:08,780 in this room on Ely Place, 541 00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:11,500 home of the Dublin Theosophical Society. 542 00:30:14,860 --> 00:30:17,260 The plan was to hold a seance 543 00:30:17,260 --> 00:30:21,140 to discover if Maud's dead child could be reincarnated. 544 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:31,300 They sit down and the seance occurs 545 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,740 and whatever signals AE is getting from the other side, 546 00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:39,220 he turns around and, to Maud's great comfort, 547 00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:40,940 he says, "Yes, it is possible. 548 00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:43,460 "It's possible to reincarnate your child 549 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:47,780 "and it's possible to reincarnate you child within your family." 550 00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:51,580 Maud goes tearing back to Paris, to Millevoye, 551 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:53,780 who she's long given up, 552 00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:56,540 and she takes him about 60 miles out of Paris 553 00:30:56,540 --> 00:31:02,460 to the tomb of her now long-dead, buried son 554 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:07,460 and the two of them have sex in the vault 555 00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:09,860 of the tomb of their child 556 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:14,220 in order to reincarnate him and bring him back to the family. 557 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:18,340 It's so weird and odd 558 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:21,260 and pitiful and sad. 559 00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:24,900 They were so out there, excitingly out there, 560 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,580 so open to any mad ideas. 561 00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:34,660 But a child resulted from that experiment, a beautiful child, 562 00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:38,460 Iseult Gonne, who, of course, 22 years later, 563 00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:40,300 Yeats would ask to marry. 564 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,420 I think it's apt that in this room of all, 565 00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:47,980 we do The Pity Of Love. 566 00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:50,700 A pity beyond all telling 567 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,900 Is hid in the heart of love 568 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:54,860 The folk who are buying and selling 569 00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:57,020 The clouds on their journey above 570 00:31:57,020 --> 00:31:59,180 The cold, wet winds ever blowing 571 00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:00,860 And the shadowy hazel grove 572 00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:03,420 Where mouse-grey waters are flowing 573 00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:05,820 Threaten the head that I love. 574 00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:10,140 Throughout his life, Willie seemed attracted to dark, tragic, 575 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:12,180 often violent women. 576 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:15,100 But despite the sexual temptations which London offered 577 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:18,340 and the unrequited obsessive desire for Maud Gonne, 578 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:21,580 he was to reach 31 before he lost his virginity. 579 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:23,220 And when he finally did so, 580 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:26,860 it was most likely in his tiny flat near Euston Station in London, 581 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:28,940 and it was to an older, gentler, 582 00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:32,220 more experienced married woman, Olivia Shakespear. 583 00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:35,140 It was an absolute disaster. 584 00:32:35,140 --> 00:32:38,900 Olivia took him shopping for the bed in which he would be deflowered. 585 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:40,940 I don't know which was worse for Willie, 586 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:43,420 the shopping or the sex. 587 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:46,260 He was dismayed by the business of shopping. 588 00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:49,780 Olivia came in, she started bouncing up on the beds. 589 00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:57,140 He was in a fever of embarrassment and fear of the coming act, 590 00:32:57,140 --> 00:33:00,980 that at 31 he was finally going to do it. 591 00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:04,140 So this was the big moment. 592 00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:08,100 Understandably enough, poor Willie failed miserably to perform. 593 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:12,940 He later said, "She was too wholesome to my inmost being." 594 00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:18,060 He craved a violent eroticism, in his mind personified by Maud. 595 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:22,620 That same year, another woman was about to enter Willie Yeats's life. 596 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:26,260 She and her home were probably more important to Yeats's work 597 00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:27,380 than even Maud. 598 00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,940 The woman's name was Augusta Gregory, Lady Gregory, 599 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:33,740 one of the local bigwigs. 600 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:36,420 She took him away to this place, here. 601 00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:40,380 This is Coole, Coole Park, and Coole House. 602 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:42,900 And this is all that remains, unfortunately, of it. 603 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,460 This is the area of it. 604 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:46,420 This plinth I'm standing on 605 00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,340 is the foundation platform for the whole house. 606 00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:53,300 He would run here, he would retreat here. 607 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:54,700 This was a second home. 608 00:33:57,340 --> 00:33:59,940 Yeats's job was to be a poet 609 00:33:59,940 --> 00:34:03,420 in the same way that someone is a bus driver or an accountant. 610 00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:06,500 You get up in the morning to write poems. 611 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:08,940 He laboured and worked and worked 612 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:10,540 to reduce, to reduce, 613 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:15,220 to get to the very essence of what it was that he wanted to say. 614 00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:18,700 Days, weeks, sometimes months on some poems. 615 00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:21,820 This is what he got here. 616 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:23,740 This is what he was able to do, 617 00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:26,620 withdraw from the freneticism of his committees, 618 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:30,300 his desperate need to be in these esoteric societies. 619 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,060 And he could take the experiences of the last few months, 620 00:34:33,060 --> 00:34:37,220 come to Coole, let it drain down into some essence. 621 00:34:37,220 --> 00:34:40,620 And that's what he's explaining in this unbeliev... 622 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:43,380 This is one of... I keep saying this is one of the greats, you know. 623 00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:46,260 He was explaining the craft of this thing 624 00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:49,660 but he was able to hone and direct that craft 625 00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:51,740 particularly here at Coole. 626 00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:58,620 I hope I look languid and romantic enough to read this poem. 627 00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:01,020 I chose this tree and this pose specifically, 628 00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,180 so, you know, I hope it's working. 629 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:07,540 Adam's Curse. 630 00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:09,860 We sat together at one summer's end 631 00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:12,340 That beautiful mild woman, your close friend 632 00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:15,540 And you and I, and talked of poetry 633 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:18,660 I said, a line will take us hours maybe 634 00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:21,380 Yet if it does not seem a moment's thought 635 00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:24,020 Our stitching and unstitching has been naught 636 00:35:24,020 --> 00:35:26,140 Better go down upon your marrow-bones 637 00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:27,780 And scrub a kitchen pavement 638 00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:30,980 Or break stones like an old pauper, in all kinds of weather 639 00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:35,620 For to articulate sweet sounds together 640 00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:38,740 Is to work harder than all these 641 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:42,140 And yet be thought an idler by the noisy set 642 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:44,380 Of bankers, schoolmasters, and clergymen 643 00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:46,900 The martyrs call the world. 644 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:55,060 One early summer, he was ill and very depressed 645 00:35:55,060 --> 00:35:58,460 and Lady Gregory, he says, 646 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:03,020 "Brought me from cottage to cottage while she began to collect stories. 647 00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:06,660 "As that ancient system of belief unfolded before us 648 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:10,500 "with unforeseen probabilities and plausibilities, 649 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,460 "it was though we had begun to live in a dream." 650 00:36:15,460 --> 00:36:18,540 Him and Gregory would walk through the woods at Coole 651 00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:23,620 looking for impressions made in the ground by fairy troops 652 00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:27,780 or wraths or fairy forts that they had left behind. 653 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,260 They'd see bits of wood lined at an angle 654 00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:33,260 and they were absolutely convinced they were in... 655 00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:34,980 they were living in this dream. 656 00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:41,220 He was at this stuff from the very beginning. 657 00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:44,020 He was at this stuff over in the pilot's cottage 658 00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:45,540 over at Rosses Point. 659 00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:53,780 What got me into him really and his importance beyond being a poet, 660 00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:56,700 his importance just in Ireland, 661 00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:01,220 is the fact that that guy took down these things, 662 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:03,260 made them into our literature. 663 00:37:03,260 --> 00:37:08,420 But I equated it with a musical history I'm more familiar with, 664 00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:10,820 which is the history of America. 665 00:37:10,820 --> 00:37:12,580 There was a man called Alan Lomax 666 00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:15,620 who went around the Appalachian Mountains 667 00:37:15,620 --> 00:37:17,900 and the southern states of America. 668 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:22,060 So he started recording and transcribing all the stories 669 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:23,460 and all the songs 670 00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,780 and giving them all to the Library Of Congress. 671 00:37:25,780 --> 00:37:31,140 And this was the background of America, this was America's story. 672 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:35,260 Now, Yeats did that. There's just no question of it. 673 00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:39,300 He gave the Irish, in a moment of great confusion and loss, 674 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,940 he told them who they were. 675 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:46,620 He said, "It's not all dispossession and defeat, 676 00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:50,660 "go back long before the endless fighting and invasions. 677 00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:52,220 "Have you heard of Fionn mac Cumhaill? 678 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:53,700 "Have you heard of Cuchulainn?" 679 00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:59,700 They had but not in the sense of this glorious, elegant, 680 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,780 dignified ancestry. 681 00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:08,260 Halfway between Dublin and Belfast stands an ancient stone. 682 00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:10,900 Cuchulainn, Ireland's great warrior hero, 683 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:12,380 mortally wounded in battle, 684 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:14,820 is said to have strapped himself to this rock 685 00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:16,460 so he might die standing. 686 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:19,380 As I learned in Africa, 687 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:23,340 you can't create a nation by simply drawing lines on a map. 688 00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:25,460 Every people needs a creation myth, 689 00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:27,980 its own Cuchulainn's stone, its own stories. 690 00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:32,060 As Yeats said, there is no fine nationality without literature 691 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,860 and no fine literature without nationality. 692 00:38:36,620 --> 00:38:38,260 And along with the other scholars 693 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:41,900 who were digging up the stories and translating them from the Irish, 694 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,180 he elevated these heroes - 695 00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:47,540 Fionn mac Cumhaill, Oisin, Cuchulainn - 696 00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:51,660 into a pantheon of heroes that we should aspire to, 697 00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:56,340 that can be emulated in the creation myth of a new country. 698 00:38:57,820 --> 00:39:01,220 A nation is the political expression of a people. 699 00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:04,740 If there isn't a people, you can't build the state. 700 00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:07,260 And the only way you can build a state 701 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,660 is by building the institutions, 702 00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,580 the scaffolding upon which a constitution can hang. 703 00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:19,460 Yeats was the great mover behind a modern art gallery, 704 00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:22,860 a ballet academy and the National Academy of Letters. 705 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:26,460 But the greatest institution Yeats created with Augusta Gregory 706 00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:29,740 and their protege, a young playwright called John Synge, 707 00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:33,580 was the Abbey Theatre, today our National Theatre. 708 00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:37,300 They became the triumvirate at the heart of what Yeats aspired to, 709 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:41,140 a national literature in English for the Irish - 710 00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:43,460 not anti-English but pro-Irish, 711 00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:46,020 about what we are, not what we are against. 712 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:49,900 It was revolutionary with pens instead of guns. 713 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,940 No surprise its emblem is the mythical Queen Maeve. 714 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:56,820 And the first character to speak on stage on its opening night 715 00:39:56,820 --> 00:39:58,220 was Cuchulainn. 716 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:03,460 He writes somewhere that he realises that the Irish don't read, that 717 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:06,620 that whole part of our culture, you know, is not a big thing, 718 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:08,860 but that they might go to shows. 719 00:40:08,860 --> 00:40:12,900 It's just fantastic to see this stern, austere figure of Yeats 720 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:14,660 with a light bulb moment going, 721 00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:18,140 "Maybe if we opened a theatre they might come along!" 722 00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:22,860 And it just goes to the whole punk aspect of it. 723 00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:25,100 You know, the punk thing was a reaction 724 00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:29,220 against the professionalism, the 72-track studios of the... 725 00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:31,940 the sort of prog rock musicality of the bands. 726 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,780 No, strip that out, go back to attitude, 727 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:38,020 go back to the roots of the music and "anyone can do it." 728 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:41,740 Can't play guitar? Doesn't matter, pick it up and make a noise. 729 00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:45,980 Yeats and Gregory and Synge were going to make a noise. 730 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:49,260 Even if you were an amateur two years ago, like Synge, 731 00:40:49,260 --> 00:40:50,820 you were going to make a noise. 732 00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:52,980 Even if you were an amateur like Gregory, 733 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:54,860 you were going to make a noise. 734 00:40:54,860 --> 00:40:58,340 It was this central, core group of revolutionaries 735 00:40:58,340 --> 00:41:00,940 who were provoking, who were disturbing, 736 00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:03,780 who needed the debate to happen. 737 00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:07,020 It could not just be owned by the advanced nationalists, 738 00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:10,860 ie those who were quite prepared to pick up the gun and go. 739 00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:15,820 The war drums were beating louder. 740 00:41:15,820 --> 00:41:17,780 WB and Maud had chaired a committee 741 00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:21,780 to celebrate the centenary of the failed 1798 rebellion. 742 00:41:21,780 --> 00:41:25,220 There had been violent protests at Queen Victoria's Jubilee, 743 00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:27,060 and later at her visit to Dublin. 744 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:31,060 Yeats himself publicly supported the Boers 745 00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:33,540 in their fight against British colonialism. 746 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:34,700 In this boiling pot, 747 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:36,980 he was challenged by more hardline Republicans 748 00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:38,980 to write a Nationalist play. 749 00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:41,260 It's not his finest hour. 750 00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:44,580 Co-written with Augusta Gregory as a star vehicle for Maud Gonne, 751 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:46,220 essentially playing Ireland, 752 00:41:46,220 --> 00:41:49,380 the play is not important because of its genius, far from it, 753 00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:50,980 but its impact. 754 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:52,860 And it happened in this very room, 755 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:55,820 where they are now, to Willie's dismay I'd imagine, 756 00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:58,340 building a nail bar and tanning salon. 757 00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:04,660 God, it's small. 758 00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:07,140 And this is where... 759 00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:14,700 ..the appalling Kathleen ni Houlihan was first staged. 760 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:23,100 So the old woman, who represents Ireland, says, 761 00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:27,100 "Sometimes my feet are tired and my hands are quiet, 762 00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,860 "but there's no quiet in my heart. 763 00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:34,460 "When the people see me quiet, they think old age has come in me 764 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:37,660 "and that all the stir has gone out of me. 765 00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:41,380 "But when the trouble is on me, I must be talking to my friends." 766 00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:45,420 Bridget - "What was it put the trouble on you?" 767 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:48,900 Old woman - "My land that was taken from me!" 768 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:52,620 Peter - "Was it much land that they took from you?" 769 00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:56,900 "My four beautiful green fields!" 770 00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:01,740 Which is the pose you see 771 00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:04,780 the photographs of Maud Gonne striking, 772 00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:06,660 precisely this. 773 00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:07,940 Fuck off! 774 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:16,060 But it was that stuff that sent a very astute critic, 775 00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:19,020 Stephen Gwynn, reeling. 776 00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:21,860 And he wrote in his diary... 777 00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:28,580 "The effect of Kathleen ni Houlihan on me 778 00:43:28,580 --> 00:43:31,100 "was that I went home asking myself 779 00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,300 "if such plays should be produced 780 00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:38,140 "unless one was prepared for people to go out to shoot and be shot." 781 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:45,100 After the Rising, Yeats, in his later poems, 782 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,860 as an older man, much after the Rising, 783 00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:49,580 questions himself and says, 784 00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:53,020 "Did certain of my plays send out some men to be shot?" 785 00:43:53,020 --> 00:43:55,700 And the answer is maybe not, 786 00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:58,060 but the atmosphere which he created, 787 00:43:58,060 --> 00:44:02,060 and we're talking about a monstrous box office hit for those days - 788 00:44:02,060 --> 00:44:04,180 it was played again and again - 789 00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:07,060 certainly contributed to the overall war drums 790 00:44:07,060 --> 00:44:09,260 being beaten ever more feverishly. 791 00:44:12,340 --> 00:44:14,780 All that I have said and done 792 00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:16,580 Now that I am old and ill 793 00:44:16,580 --> 00:44:18,860 Turns into a question 794 00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:22,900 Till I lie awake night after night 795 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,740 And never get the answers right 796 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:28,980 Did that play of mine 797 00:44:28,980 --> 00:44:32,540 Send out certain men the English shot? 798 00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:35,340 Did words of mine put too great strain 799 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:38,740 On that woman's reeling brain? 800 00:44:38,740 --> 00:44:40,140 Yeats's nationalism 801 00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:42,420 and his belief in an independent Ireland 802 00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:43,820 was never in doubt. 803 00:44:43,820 --> 00:44:46,380 But his old mentor John O'Leary had said, 804 00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:50,460 "There are some things a man must not do to save a nation." 805 00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:55,180 Whatever way the road forked, WB's path was cultural revolution, 806 00:44:55,180 --> 00:44:58,580 the pen not the sword. 807 00:44:58,580 --> 00:45:02,500 What ultimately distanced WB Yeats from the revolutionary cause 808 00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:04,180 was a broken heart. 809 00:45:04,180 --> 00:45:07,060 Maud Gonne, in the cauldron of nationalist fervour, 810 00:45:07,060 --> 00:45:08,420 married John MacBride, 811 00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:12,100 a Republican hero who had fought with the Boers against the Empire. 812 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,660 But he was also a drinker 813 00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:16,300 and this perfect rebel marriage was doomed. 814 00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:21,220 The MacBride marriage is essentially a publicity... 815 00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:24,140 not a publicity stunt, but it's... 816 00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:26,300 It had big propaganda value. 817 00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,940 Two icons of Republican resistance marry each other 818 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:33,780 and are sworn to bring down the British Empire 819 00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:37,220 and are photographed in publicity shots for a French magazine 820 00:45:37,220 --> 00:45:38,420 with their new baby, 821 00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:40,940 with lots of guns on the table in front of them, 822 00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:44,020 and the caption is "Three Irish revolutionaries in Paris." 823 00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:47,660 You know, it's a very, very public and very publicised... 824 00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:51,060 The Bonnie and Clyde of Republicanism? In a way. 825 00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:55,940 The squalid and long drawn out and publicised separation case, 826 00:45:55,940 --> 00:45:58,900 they don't get a divorce - they're Catholics after all - 827 00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:00,740 but there is a legal separation, 828 00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:03,860 drags in all sorts of allegations of his drunken behaviour 829 00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:06,700 and his alleged molestation of young women, 830 00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:08,420 including Iseult, allegedly. 831 00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:11,340 This shocks Yeats, who believes all this implicitly, 832 00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:12,780 very much indeed. 833 00:46:12,780 --> 00:46:14,220 But what he's even more... 834 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:18,260 well, as shocked by is that traditional IRB people, 835 00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:22,660 nationalist men close ranks around MacBride 836 00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:26,020 and in many ways exorcise Maud Gonne 837 00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:28,500 and have her hissed at in public and so forth. 838 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:34,020 And the Neanderthal and patriarchalist attitudes 839 00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:37,020 of the old IRB guard around MacBride, 840 00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:40,180 who include, by the way, John O'Leary, 841 00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:42,820 is a deep disillusionment to him. 842 00:46:42,820 --> 00:46:45,060 Why should I blame her 843 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:48,540 That she filled my days with misery 844 00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:51,980 Or that she would of late have taught to ignorant men 845 00:46:51,980 --> 00:46:54,980 Most violent ways 846 00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:57,740 Or hurled the little streets upon the great 847 00:46:57,740 --> 00:46:59,900 Had they but courage equal to desire? 848 00:47:02,060 --> 00:47:03,620 What could have made her peaceful 849 00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:09,060 With a mind that nobleness made simple as a fire 850 00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:11,900 With beauty like a tightened bow 851 00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:14,820 A kind that is not natural in an age like this 852 00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:18,980 Being high and solitary and most stern? 853 00:47:18,980 --> 00:47:22,700 Why, what could she have done, being what she is? 854 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:25,780 Was there another Troy for her to burn? 855 00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:30,180 On the eve of World War I, Yeats was approaching 50, 856 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:33,540 with no Maud and no marriage in sight. 857 00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:37,100 "I have no child," he wrote dismissively about his life, 858 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,340 "I have nothing but a book." 859 00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:43,220 He was turning bitter, sharper, angrier. 860 00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:47,540 For some, he's the poet, already a national treasure, 861 00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:50,620 for others, he is a pompous Anglo-Irish Protestant 862 00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:53,340 taking a civil list pension from the King. 863 00:47:54,980 --> 00:47:57,620 He feels Ireland is growing away from him, 864 00:47:57,620 --> 00:48:00,860 it's not the romantic Ireland he's tried to sing into life. 865 00:48:00,860 --> 00:48:05,180 He rails against Dublin's new bourgeois Catholic conservatism, 866 00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:08,980 against a grubby materialism and against militant nationalism. 867 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:14,300 What need you, being come to sense 868 00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:16,500 But fumble in a greasy till 869 00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,660 And add the halfpence to the pence 870 00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:21,580 And prayer to shivering prayer 871 00:48:21,580 --> 00:48:24,820 Until you have dried the marrow from the bone 872 00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:28,300 For men were born to pray and save 873 00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:30,740 Romantic Ireland's dead and gone 874 00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:32,940 It's with O'Leary in the grave. 875 00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:37,580 WB Yeats puts his voice and his support behind John Redmond, 876 00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:41,140 his Irish Parliamentary Party and democratic freedom. 877 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:46,580 In 1914, the Home Rule Bill is passed. 878 00:48:46,580 --> 00:48:51,700 Ireland has finally and peacefully secured its independence. 879 00:48:53,180 --> 00:48:56,020 But it's deferred because of the Great War 880 00:48:56,020 --> 00:48:58,180 and implacable Unionist opposition. 881 00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:02,140 Things fall apart 882 00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:04,220 The centre cannot hold... 883 00:49:04,220 --> 00:49:07,580 But I am old and you are young... 884 00:49:07,580 --> 00:49:10,820 I carry from my mother's womb a fanatic heart... 885 00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:13,140 That is no country for old men 886 00:49:13,140 --> 00:49:15,300 The young in one another's arms... 887 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:16,500 Changed utterly 888 00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:19,860 A terrible beauty is born. 889 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:36,580 Oh, that's great. 890 00:49:37,980 --> 00:49:40,780 It's a beautiful drawing, I've never seen it even reproduced. 891 00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:43,820 But what's really interesting about this, 892 00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:46,500 where this sort of touches history, 893 00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,340 is that this is exactly Yeats, 894 00:49:49,340 --> 00:49:53,620 exactly Yeats at the moment that the guns 895 00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:59,140 were firing in O'Connell Street on Easter Monday in 1916. 896 00:49:59,140 --> 00:50:00,700 This is what he was doing, 897 00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:06,060 he was being sketched by his friend, the artist William Rothenstein, 898 00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:09,420 in his house in Gloucestershire where he was staying. 899 00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,420 Of course, this was before he knows 900 00:50:11,420 --> 00:50:14,380 that at this moment that this is being drawn 901 00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:17,540 that people are being killed and being shot 902 00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:19,860 and being fired at. 903 00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:26,460 But the shock of Easter week has a profound effect on him 904 00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:28,740 and, of course, on the country - 905 00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:32,460 but more specifically his art. 906 00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:35,820 Hurrah for revolution and more cannon-shot! 907 00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:39,620 A beggar upon horseback lashes a bigger on foot 908 00:50:39,620 --> 00:50:43,460 Hurrah for revolution and cannon come again! 909 00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:47,420 The beggars have changed places, but the lash goes on. 910 00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:55,740 # When Irish eyes are smiling 911 00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:58,980 # Sure is like a morn in spring... # 912 00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:04,260 The Easter Rising lasted six days and left nearly 500 dead. 913 00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:07,260 When the leaders were captured and executed by the British, 914 00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:10,180 the ensuing outrage led to more carnage and death 915 00:51:10,180 --> 00:51:13,060 and ultimately, many think, to Irish independence. 916 00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:16,540 But I believe the glorification of what happened in the GPO 917 00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:19,420 stained my country's history in blood for decades. 918 00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:25,020 There are no creation myths here. 919 00:51:25,020 --> 00:51:26,580 It's just a post office. 920 00:51:26,580 --> 00:51:29,340 This isn't the foundation stone of anything. 921 00:51:29,340 --> 00:51:31,900 This isn't the crucible of revolution. 922 00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:35,340 No, that's over in the execution yards of Kilmainham. 923 00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:40,060 This isn't...the cradle of our national Bethlehem. 924 00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:46,860 This is the original sin of a mismanaged, misgoverned, 925 00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:50,380 often abusive and corrupt state. 926 00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:55,780 This is the foul rag and bone shop of the national heart, 927 00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:59,020 which, as Yeats so brilliantly reminds us, 928 00:51:59,020 --> 00:52:01,260 is where all the ladders start. 929 00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:05,860 I find myself very conflicted 930 00:52:05,860 --> 00:52:10,540 by the idea of the blood sacrifice in heroism. 931 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:14,260 The delirium of death. 932 00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:17,340 Dying is...very easy. 933 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:18,900 I've been around it a lot. 934 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:24,780 It isn't radical to die, it's inevitable. 935 00:52:24,780 --> 00:52:28,140 Staying alive is hard. 936 00:52:28,140 --> 00:52:29,700 Life is hard. 937 00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:34,100 Staying alive to change and implement change 938 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:37,740 must be what it's about. 939 00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:39,940 Dying? 940 00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:42,180 For a cause? 941 00:52:42,180 --> 00:52:43,580 Whose cause? 942 00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:45,060 The individual's? 943 00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:47,660 Hoping that something will come out of it. 944 00:52:47,660 --> 00:52:50,500 This ludicrous notion of death or glory... 945 00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,860 or death and glory escapes me. 946 00:52:58,820 --> 00:53:01,260 WB Yeats didn't die for Ireland. 947 00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:03,820 He stayed alive to fight for Ireland - 948 00:53:03,820 --> 00:53:06,980 a better, inclusive, progressive version of Ireland - 949 00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:09,820 and to fight against the version I eventually fled - 950 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:12,460 petty, censorious, Catholic narrow-mindedness 951 00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:15,620 fixated with the false glory of martyrdom. 952 00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:22,380 Had they converted into a project of self-sacrifice? 953 00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:24,020 Well, there I think we come back 954 00:53:24,020 --> 00:53:26,140 to the Catholicisation of the thing, 955 00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:29,220 in retrospect, and to Pearse's writings, 956 00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:33,780 very cleverly aimed at exactly this interpretation of it, 957 00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:36,500 which were released...written just before the Rising 958 00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:38,220 and released just after it, 959 00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:41,300 where the whole thing is written into, 960 00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:44,900 inscribed into the traditional of Catholic sacrifice 961 00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:46,140 and of mysticism 962 00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:49,220 and of the way of the cross and of Calvary and all the rest of it. 963 00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:51,620 The other thing is that the calculation is, 964 00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:54,300 and this does seem to be the case, this isn't retrospective, 965 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,260 that they knew they would be executed 966 00:53:56,260 --> 00:53:58,580 and that this would bring about a response 967 00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:00,220 in public opinion in Ireland. 968 00:54:00,220 --> 00:54:02,500 And there they were absolutely right. Fine. 969 00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,860 Meanwhile at the end of all this you get 500 people dead. 970 00:54:05,860 --> 00:54:07,300 I mean, how dare they? 971 00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,900 You may say "How dare they?" 972 00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:13,700 but for them, the 500 people dead were worth the reward, 973 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:17,460 which was a revived, radical Republican... 974 00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:19,780 And Stalin would have exactly the same point. 975 00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:21,540 Perhaps. 976 00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:25,580 So the people of 1916 are an elite, 977 00:54:25,580 --> 00:54:30,140 a revolutionary elite blinded by, you know, 978 00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:34,060 blood-dimmed revolutionary lust? 979 00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:36,380 You say that. I didn't say it. I am saying that. 980 00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:38,580 They're certainly a revolutionary elite. 981 00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:41,420 And they're certainly bent on... So he would have approved of that? 982 00:54:41,420 --> 00:54:44,700 They're bent on the vertigo of self-sacrifice. 983 00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:50,980 And that's how Yeats will both commemorate them 984 00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:53,300 and remember them. 985 00:54:57,780 --> 00:55:01,820 O but we talked at large before the sixteen men were shot 986 00:55:01,820 --> 00:55:04,580 But who can talk of give and take 987 00:55:04,580 --> 00:55:06,780 What should be and what not 988 00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:11,620 While those dead men are loitering there to stir the boiling pot? 989 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:16,300 You say that we should still the land till Germany's overcome 990 00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:21,220 But who is there to argue that now Pearse is deaf and dumb? 991 00:55:21,220 --> 00:55:25,220 And is there a logic to outweigh MacDonagh's bony thumb? 992 00:55:25,220 --> 00:55:27,900 How could you dream they'd listen 993 00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:29,580 That have an ear alone 994 00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:31,900 For those new comrades they have found 995 00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:34,260 Lord Edward and Wolf Tone 996 00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:36,860 Or meddle with our give and take 997 00:55:36,860 --> 00:55:39,460 That converse bone to bone? 998 00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:43,900 Hero Tales And Legends Of The Serbians. 999 00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:50,100 This is Yeats' library, that his wife gave to the National Library. 1000 00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:54,420 These are the books, this is what surrounded him all his life. 1001 00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:59,500 Oh, here we go, George Moore. Oh, Shelley and Blake. 1002 00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:01,940 Yeah, they're his two touchstones, aren't they? 1003 00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:04,700 Look at this, Folklore In The Old Testament. 1004 00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:09,020 The Waste Land. 1005 00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:12,820 "For William Butler Yeats Esquire 1006 00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:15,620 "in admiration of his work, TS Eliot." 1007 00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:21,060 These are his own editions of his own works. 1008 00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:24,380 So I have to wear the gloves made famous 1009 00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:27,340 on endless history programmes 1010 00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:30,900 and these are, from Ireland's point of view, 1011 00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:34,860 you know, almost sacred texts. 1012 00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:35,940 And why not? 1013 00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:40,780 I have met them at close of day 1014 00:56:40,780 --> 00:56:42,700 Coming with vivid faces 1015 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:47,340 From counter or desk among grey eighteenth-century houses 1016 00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:50,940 I have passed with a nod of the head 1017 00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:53,460 Or polite meaningless words 1018 00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:58,540 Or have lingered awhile and said polite meaningless words 1019 00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:02,820 And thought before I had done of a mocking tail or a gibe 1020 00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:06,420 To please a companion around the fire at the club 1021 00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:11,500 Being certain that they and I but lived where motley is worn 1022 00:57:13,180 --> 00:57:14,980 All changed 1023 00:57:14,980 --> 00:57:16,740 Changed utterly 1024 00:57:17,780 --> 00:57:19,660 A terrible beauty is born. 1025 00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:25,660 The events of 1916 took him aback, 1026 00:57:25,660 --> 00:57:28,380 and he didn't quite know how to respond to it. 1027 00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:30,820 Then, of course, like everybody else, 1028 00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:37,540 he recoiled at what the authorities did to the leaders, 1029 00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:42,340 which was a serious political mistake, of course, 1030 00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:45,580 and just went with the cack-handedness and misgovernment 1031 00:57:45,580 --> 00:57:47,300 of what was coming from London. 1032 00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:52,540 He sat down and put his own doubt 1033 00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:57,460 and shock and questioning 1034 00:57:57,460 --> 00:58:03,980 into one of the most powerful poems of the century, in any language. 1035 00:58:03,980 --> 00:58:06,740 Was it needless death after all? 1036 00:58:07,940 --> 00:58:09,700 For England may keep faith 1037 00:58:09,700 --> 00:58:11,540 For all that is done and said 1038 00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:15,300 We know their dream 1039 00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:21,060 Enough to know they dreamed and are dead. 1040 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:22,700 And what if excess of love 1041 00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:24,820 Bewildered them till they died? 1042 00:58:26,740 --> 00:58:28,860 I write it out in a verse - 1043 00:58:28,860 --> 00:58:31,300 MacDonagh and MacBride 1044 00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:33,620 And Connolly and Pearse 1045 00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:36,220 Now and in time to be 1046 00:58:36,220 --> 00:58:37,940 Wherever green is worn 1047 00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:40,300 Are changed, changed utterly 1048 00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:43,020 A terrible beauty is born. 1049 00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:53,300 TEARFULLY: Brilliant. 1050 00:58:58,380 --> 00:59:01,500 One person wasn't so sure that Yeats got it right - 1051 00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:05,420 his inspirational muse and great love of his life Maud Gonne. 1052 00:59:05,420 --> 00:59:07,700 And now, because of the Rising, 1053 00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:10,580 this fanatic Republican icon was a widow. 1054 00:59:12,020 --> 00:59:16,620 Maud is outraged by this 'Easter, 1916.' 1055 00:59:16,620 --> 00:59:20,420 She thinks he's betrayed the actual Rising itself. 1056 00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:22,900 "No, Willie, I do not like your poem," 1057 00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:25,620 begins this terrific, terrific letter. 1058 00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:27,900 I think it's one of the great political poems 1059 00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:29,260 because of its ambivalence. 1060 00:59:29,260 --> 00:59:33,700 But it does reflect the upheavals of his own life during that summer, 1061 00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:35,940 with Maud, with her daughter Iseult. 1062 00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:40,100 And I think the stanza about the stone of fanaticism 1063 00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:42,660 in the stream of life is very much about... 1064 00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:45,820 This obsession with one idea that blocks any other. Yeah. 1065 00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:49,580 Maud is the unspoken presence in that poem. 1066 00:59:49,580 --> 00:59:52,100 It's probably his last great love poem to her. 1067 00:59:53,540 --> 00:59:56,300 But I think the main thing is the man is in the throes 1068 00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:58,900 of what can only be called a nervous breakdown. 1069 00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:03,780 He is at the absolute edge of self control. 1070 01:00:03,780 --> 01:00:06,940 It's the fallout of 1916 to 1917, 1071 01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:08,820 his horoscopes have told him 1072 01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:12,380 all sorts of world-shattering things are happening. 1073 01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:14,820 He's looking for certainty everywhere, 1074 01:00:14,820 --> 01:00:19,020 as he has done in the strangest places over the last few years. 1075 01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:21,660 The 18 months after the Rising 1076 01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:25,540 saw WB descend into spirals of confusion and depression 1077 01:00:25,540 --> 01:00:29,020 about politics but also about his own personal life. 1078 01:00:29,020 --> 01:00:30,940 He's a 52-year-old bachelor 1079 01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:35,060 and, as many horoscopes, seances and visits to mediums insist, 1080 01:00:35,060 --> 01:00:37,700 he must be married by the end of the year. 1081 01:00:39,540 --> 01:00:41,020 In this state of panic, 1082 01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:43,580 Willie heads to Normandy to visit Maud 1083 01:00:43,580 --> 01:00:47,820 and her travelling menagerie of parrots, monkeys, dogs and cats. 1084 01:00:47,820 --> 01:00:49,700 He proposes one last time 1085 01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:51,500 and she turns him down again. 1086 01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:56,180 Then, literally, he turns and walks along the beach 1087 01:00:56,180 --> 01:00:58,380 to her 22-year-old daughter Iseult 1088 01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:00,260 and proposes to her. 1089 01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:03,300 After all, she'd flirtingly proposed to him 1090 01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:04,900 just two years earlier. 1091 01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:08,620 O you will take whatever's offered 1092 01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:11,020 And dream that all the world's a friend 1093 01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:13,020 Suffer as your mother suffered 1094 01:01:13,020 --> 01:01:15,700 Be as broken in the end 1095 01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:19,460 But I am old and you are young 1096 01:01:19,460 --> 01:01:22,300 And I speak a barbarous tongue. 1097 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:25,100 Iseult says no. 1098 01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,300 In this emotional meltdown, Willie thinks, 'Well, who else do I know?' 1099 01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,940 So the now hysterical Yeats heads straight back to England 1100 01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,020 and proposes to Georgie Hyde Lees, the daughter of a friend, 1101 01:01:36,020 --> 01:01:38,180 who says, "OK." 1102 01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:43,100 Within days, under pressure of the horoscope deadline, 1103 01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:46,460 the happy couple arrive at a London register office. 1104 01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:52,540 But Lily, Willie's sister, took to her immediately. 1105 01:01:52,540 --> 01:01:54,860 "She is not good-looking but is comely. 1106 01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:58,060 "Her nose is too big for good looks, her colour ruddy 1107 01:01:58,060 --> 01:01:59,980 "and her hair reddish brown. 1108 01:01:59,980 --> 01:02:02,260 "Her eyes are very good in a fine blue 1109 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:04,860 "with very dark, strongly marked eyebrows. 1110 01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:07,020 "She is quiet but not slow. 1111 01:02:07,020 --> 01:02:10,780 "Her brain I would judge quick and trained and sensitive." 1112 01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:13,980 In fact, everyone remarked on the intelligence of the woman. 1113 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:18,260 Yeats, although now married and on his honeymoon, 1114 01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:22,060 was still in a complete state of panic. 1115 01:02:22,060 --> 01:02:24,140 Had he let down Maud or Iseult? 1116 01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:27,580 Was he betraying his new wife by not being fully committed to her? 1117 01:02:27,580 --> 01:02:30,620 That's when Georgie displayed her true talents. 1118 01:02:32,660 --> 01:02:34,540 So he'd met his deadline, 1119 01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:37,260 he had got married by that astrological deadline. 1120 01:02:37,260 --> 01:02:39,740 Hurrah, he'd found somebody less than half his age 1121 01:02:39,740 --> 01:02:42,060 who was willing to marry him. That's a great success. 1122 01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:44,100 That's not a failure, that's a success. Yeah. 1123 01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:46,500 So they get married, they go on honeymoon, 1124 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:49,140 they go down to this little hotel just south of London. 1125 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:51,300 And - first night, nothing happens sexually. 1126 01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:53,460 Second night, nothing happens sexually. 1127 01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:55,980 Third night, it's really disconcerting for her. 1128 01:02:55,980 --> 01:02:57,300 It's really stressful. 1129 01:02:57,300 --> 01:03:01,300 And they, between them, decide to start doing some automatic writing. 1130 01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:04,940 And she starts doing this automatic writing.... 1131 01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:07,900 Wasn't that bonkers, actually? No, it wasn't that bonkers. 1132 01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:10,260 Well, you would say that, cos... I would, wouldn't I?! 1133 01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:13,420 ..you're selling bonkers books in this book shop, you know, 1134 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:15,540 with this hippie sofa and stuff, you know. 1135 01:03:15,540 --> 01:03:17,380 She comes from an occultist background. 1136 01:03:17,380 --> 01:03:19,100 He comes from an occultist background. 1137 01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:21,980 It's a thing that she knows about. It's a thing that he knows about. 1138 01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:24,180 It's a thing that he's very keen that she does. 1139 01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:27,500 And she sits down to do it 1140 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:29,140 and she starts 1141 01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:31,060 and they get some results. 1142 01:03:31,060 --> 01:03:33,340 He loves it. He absolutely loves it. 1143 01:03:34,820 --> 01:03:37,260 It transpires Georgie had the ability 1144 01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:39,180 to connect the pen in her hand 1145 01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:43,740 to the great wisdom of some unknown spiritual instructors. 1146 01:03:43,740 --> 01:03:45,580 Willie would ask a question 1147 01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:48,980 and Georgie's pen would automatically write out an answer. 1148 01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:53,100 For Willie, this was the pinnacle of a lifetime of spiritual quest. 1149 01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:55,980 New ideas, new metaphors for his poetry. 1150 01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:59,540 Roy Foster called it a factory for mysterious images. 1151 01:03:59,540 --> 01:04:01,980 And Willie didn't it want to stop. 1152 01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:05,580 But isn't that always what all of this was about, 1153 01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:09,540 from the fairy legends to the folk legends 1154 01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,540 to the Rosicrucianism, to the theosophy? 1155 01:04:12,540 --> 01:04:16,460 Just this constant search for stimulation of new imagery? 1156 01:04:16,460 --> 01:04:17,900 You know this yourself, 1157 01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:19,700 that's what creative writers, 1158 01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:22,580 that's what poets, that's what songwriters do. 1159 01:04:22,580 --> 01:04:25,700 They're ruthless in the search of a theme. 1160 01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:27,220 Ruthless. 1161 01:04:27,220 --> 01:04:31,100 And they will rummage through anything 1162 01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,140 and extract anything 1163 01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:34,580 and steal anything 1164 01:04:34,580 --> 01:04:38,140 in order to get an inspirational image 1165 01:04:38,140 --> 01:04:40,860 out of which will come a poem or a song 1166 01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:42,860 or a piece of creative writing. 1167 01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:49,140 What they undertook to do they brought to pass 1168 01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:54,100 All things hang like a drop of dew upon a blade of grass. 1169 01:04:55,820 --> 01:04:56,900 So simple. 1170 01:04:58,180 --> 01:05:01,460 Yeats' new domestic stability sat uneasily 1171 01:05:01,460 --> 01:05:04,460 with the end of the Great War and the rise of Bolshevism. 1172 01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:06,820 At home, England's hesitation 1173 01:05:06,820 --> 01:05:08,940 in implementing hard fought for home rule 1174 01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:11,500 provoked the Irish War of Independence. 1175 01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:16,460 It was only 1919, but, with that remarkable prescience of his, 1176 01:05:16,460 --> 01:05:19,020 he could sense impending doom. 1177 01:05:19,020 --> 01:05:21,980 And with his store of magical metaphors and imagery, 1178 01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:25,940 a new, sharper and darker genius began to emerge. 1179 01:05:27,380 --> 01:05:31,340 Turning and turning in the widening gyre 1180 01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:34,100 The falcon cannot hear the falconer 1181 01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:38,460 Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold 1182 01:05:38,460 --> 01:05:41,660 Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world 1183 01:05:41,660 --> 01:05:44,220 The blood dimmed tide is loosed 1184 01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:48,540 And everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned 1185 01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:51,300 The best lack all conviction 1186 01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:55,020 While the worst are full of passionate intensity 1187 01:05:55,020 --> 01:05:59,140 Surely some revelation is at hand 1188 01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:02,180 Surely the Second Coming is at hand 1189 01:06:02,180 --> 01:06:03,580 The Second Coming? 1190 01:06:04,780 --> 01:06:06,740 Hardly are those words out 1191 01:06:06,740 --> 01:06:10,980 When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi troubles my sight 1192 01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:14,260 Somewhere in sands of the desert 1193 01:06:14,260 --> 01:06:17,900 A shape with lion body and the head of a man 1194 01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:20,860 A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun 1195 01:06:20,860 --> 01:06:23,260 Is moving its slow thighs 1196 01:06:23,260 --> 01:06:28,580 While all about it reel shadows of the indignant desert birds 1197 01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:32,380 The darkness drops again 1198 01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:37,180 But now I know that twenty centuries of stony sleep 1199 01:06:37,180 --> 01:06:40,980 Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle 1200 01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:42,740 And what rough beast 1201 01:06:42,740 --> 01:06:46,140 Its hour come round at last 1202 01:06:46,140 --> 01:06:49,620 Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? 1203 01:07:06,260 --> 01:07:11,340 Creatively and emotionally, WB Yeats had found a new maturity. 1204 01:07:11,340 --> 01:07:14,140 He gave up his old London bachelor pad 1205 01:07:14,140 --> 01:07:16,140 and tried to create a family home 1206 01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:19,260 in his mythical dream time, the West of Ireland. 1207 01:07:22,820 --> 01:07:25,860 It's pretty ludicrous that we are sort of scurrying along 1208 01:07:25,860 --> 01:07:29,780 past this place, cos of course it isn't normally like this. 1209 01:07:29,780 --> 01:07:33,660 This is a road and the river is down there 1210 01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:36,340 and we are now crossing over normally a bridge. 1211 01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:39,340 But the countryside is in flood. 1212 01:07:39,340 --> 01:07:42,540 But the problem with the tower was that it was regularly in flood. 1213 01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:46,420 Pound said this is Willie's phallic symbol in the country, 1214 01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:48,580 "Ballyphallus or whatever it is he calls it 1215 01:07:48,580 --> 01:07:51,060 "with the river flowing through the first floor." 1216 01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:52,820 And there it is. 1217 01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:55,660 And it was with some dismay that he brought Georgie back here, 1218 01:07:55,660 --> 01:07:58,100 his wife, and raised his kids a lot of the time. 1219 01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,100 It was freezing, 1220 01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:03,380 and...no electricity or anything. But he loved it. 1221 01:08:03,380 --> 01:08:04,460 And you can see why. 1222 01:08:04,460 --> 01:08:08,020 It's got that austere beauty that's so prevalent in the poetry. 1223 01:08:09,980 --> 01:08:11,260 What a place to live in. 1224 01:08:15,980 --> 01:08:18,540 Although I can see him still 1225 01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:21,460 The freckled man who goes to a grey place on a hill 1226 01:08:21,460 --> 01:08:23,260 In grey Connemara clothes 1227 01:08:23,260 --> 01:08:25,740 At dawn to cast his flies 1228 01:08:25,740 --> 01:08:28,140 It's long since I began to call up to the eyes 1229 01:08:28,140 --> 01:08:29,780 This wise and simple man 1230 01:08:30,820 --> 01:08:32,660 All day I'd looked in the face 1231 01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:34,180 What I had hoped 'twould be 1232 01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:35,540 To write for my own race 1233 01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:36,500 And the reality. 1234 01:08:38,420 --> 01:08:40,140 Ireland was now in the middle 1235 01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:42,860 of a vicious and cruel war of independence 1236 01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:45,580 and Yeats was rightly outraged by the atrocities 1237 01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:48,940 committed around Coole and Ballylee by the warring parties. 1238 01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:53,180 He finally publishes his Easter Rebellion poetry 1239 01:08:53,180 --> 01:08:55,620 and nails his nationalism to the mast. 1240 01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:58,460 In 1921, in a speech to the Oxford Union, 1241 01:08:58,460 --> 01:09:01,940 he launched a blazing attack on the English in Ireland. 1242 01:09:01,940 --> 01:09:04,100 "I am a Victorian," he said, 1243 01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:09,180 "They knew the meaning of the terms truth, honour and justice, but you? 1244 01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:11,940 "You do not know the meaning of them." 1245 01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:15,900 WB Yeats is no longer ambivalent. 1246 01:09:15,900 --> 01:09:19,620 Once again, he wants to stand up and be counted. 1247 01:09:21,380 --> 01:09:23,980 He was a one-man anti-emigration scheme. 1248 01:09:23,980 --> 01:09:25,420 He didn't want to leave, 1249 01:09:25,420 --> 01:09:29,100 like Joyce and Beckett and Wilde and Shaw. 1250 01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:30,460 He didn't want to go. 1251 01:09:30,460 --> 01:09:32,340 He wanted to stay and change. 1252 01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:34,980 And it's kind of the boring point I've been making 1253 01:09:34,980 --> 01:09:36,740 about this whole film. 1254 01:09:36,740 --> 01:09:41,860 You can die for a cause, but you can live for a reason. 1255 01:09:41,860 --> 01:09:45,140 It's only being alive that change happens, 1256 01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:47,020 and that was the route he took. 1257 01:09:49,580 --> 01:09:52,460 The Anglo-Irish Treaty brought about a compromise 1258 01:09:52,460 --> 01:09:53,860 which Yeats supported - 1259 01:09:53,860 --> 01:09:56,300 the Irish Free State. 1260 01:09:56,300 --> 01:09:59,980 He accepted a role as senator in this new government. 1261 01:09:59,980 --> 01:10:03,580 This was no token position, Ireland was now in a civil war. 1262 01:10:03,580 --> 01:10:06,220 Senators were being attacked, houses were being burned. 1263 01:10:06,220 --> 01:10:08,820 His own new home on Merrion Square in Dublin 1264 01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:10,620 was shot at and had armed guards. 1265 01:10:14,940 --> 01:10:17,300 He was going into the Senate 1266 01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:20,820 to ensure that the revolution that he had helped to engender 1267 01:10:20,820 --> 01:10:22,940 and the unique literary revolution 1268 01:10:22,940 --> 01:10:25,340 that he hoped would become the soul of the country, 1269 01:10:25,340 --> 01:10:26,860 which in fact it did, 1270 01:10:26,860 --> 01:10:30,420 should endure, and should be ensured. 1271 01:10:30,420 --> 01:10:32,940 The new conservative Catholic free state, 1272 01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:35,980 despite their declarations, did nothing for the rights of women 1273 01:10:35,980 --> 01:10:38,940 and sidelined important and vocal Protestants into the Senate. 1274 01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:42,220 The plurality which the rebellion had promised 1275 01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:44,540 had been replaced with what, in effect, 1276 01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:47,100 was a Catholic clerical coup d'etat. 1277 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:49,380 Unbelievably, a later government 1278 01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:51,420 even sent a telegram to the Pope 1279 01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:54,420 desiring to "repose at the feet of your Holiness 1280 01:10:54,420 --> 01:10:57,140 "and our devotion to your August Person." 1281 01:10:57,140 --> 01:11:00,060 But nobody would muzzle WB Yeats. 1282 01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:04,180 He stood up against legislation that he saw not only as unjust 1283 01:11:04,180 --> 01:11:06,380 but that might alienate Protestants 1284 01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:09,220 and rule out any chance of a united Ireland. 1285 01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:14,380 He wrote, "We must become a modern, tolerant, liberal nation." 1286 01:11:14,380 --> 01:11:15,940 He argued unsuccessfully 1287 01:11:15,940 --> 01:11:19,580 against the compulsory use of Irish language, against censorship 1288 01:11:19,580 --> 01:11:22,380 and the Catholic fear of "evil literature" 1289 01:11:22,380 --> 01:11:24,460 like James Joyce's Ulysses. 1290 01:11:28,780 --> 01:11:32,820 Some people see him still, though, as the Englishman, don't they? 1291 01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:35,260 I mean, they're sort of dismissive of him. 1292 01:11:35,260 --> 01:11:38,100 Well, yeah, I think he's seen as somebody 1293 01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:41,020 who's speaking for values 1294 01:11:41,020 --> 01:11:42,860 that are alien to what 1295 01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:45,580 the increasingly pietistic Catholic - 1296 01:11:45,580 --> 01:11:48,580 you know, pledging allegiance to the Pope - 1297 01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:50,820 Free State governments want. 1298 01:11:50,820 --> 01:11:53,140 He believes that the artistic imagination 1299 01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:56,740 is part of the way a country empowers and liberates itself. 1300 01:11:56,740 --> 01:11:59,380 And that is what he's preaching in the Senate as well. 1301 01:11:59,380 --> 01:12:04,380 He talks on issues of art, on issues of education, on issues of culture. 1302 01:12:04,380 --> 01:12:09,660 That's what he thinks an upper house in a modern government should be 1303 01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:13,020 and that's what he thinks is being denigrated 1304 01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:17,700 by the new highly Catholic, very bourgeois, 1305 01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:21,700 very conservative polity that the Free States become. 1306 01:12:21,700 --> 01:12:24,660 Famously, Yeats spoke out in vain 1307 01:12:24,660 --> 01:12:27,580 against the new state's plan to prohibit divorce. 1308 01:12:27,580 --> 01:12:29,540 He felt that it was grossly oppressive 1309 01:12:29,540 --> 01:12:31,940 to the Protestant minority and he said, 1310 01:12:31,940 --> 01:12:35,780 "I am proud to consider myself a typical man of that minority. 1311 01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:40,300 "We, against whom you have done this thing, are no petty people." 1312 01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:44,740 And he rightly claimed that when the iceberg of Catholic control melted, 1313 01:12:44,740 --> 01:12:47,940 Ireland would become an increasingly tolerant country. 1314 01:12:49,340 --> 01:12:53,060 I walk through the long schoolroom questioning 1315 01:12:53,060 --> 01:12:55,580 A kind old nun in a white hood replies 1316 01:12:55,580 --> 01:12:59,460 The children learn to cypher and to sing 1317 01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:01,980 To study reading books and histories 1318 01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:04,980 To cut and sew, be neat in everything 1319 01:13:04,980 --> 01:13:07,100 In the best modern way 1320 01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,780 The children's eyes in momentary wonder 1321 01:13:09,780 --> 01:13:15,100 Stare upon a sixty-year-old smiling public man. 1322 01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:17,300 This film could actually be called 1323 01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:19,620 How The Prods Invented Catholic Ireland. 1324 01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:23,860 You know, so many of the great heroes of this story, 1325 01:13:23,860 --> 01:13:26,740 going way back, the great revolutionaries - 1326 01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:27,980 Emmett, Wolfe Tone - 1327 01:13:27,980 --> 01:13:30,940 never mind the literary figures - Douglas Hyde - 1328 01:13:30,940 --> 01:13:34,860 so critical to the realisation of national self, 1329 01:13:34,860 --> 01:13:39,020 coming to sort of an apotheosis in Yeats' genius, 1330 01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:41,420 were of course Protestants. 1331 01:13:41,420 --> 01:13:44,220 And Yeats wasn't going to let that pass. 1332 01:13:44,220 --> 01:13:48,100 He was deeply proud of his caste and his background 1333 01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:49,380 and his people 1334 01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:52,340 and their rallying call of Nationalism. 1335 01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:56,780 At every turn, Yeats constantly had to fight against 1336 01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:00,060 the narrow-minded worldview of this new young Ireland. 1337 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,900 He chaired the Coinage Committee 1338 01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:05,420 but was attacked for choosing pagan designs by an English Protestant. 1339 01:14:05,420 --> 01:14:07,660 Maud Gonne in particular hated them. 1340 01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:10,020 Less successfully, perhaps, 1341 01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:12,180 he also advised on the design 1342 01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:14,900 for the new robes for the Irish judiciary. 1343 01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:20,380 Unfortunately, this is what he thought Irish judges should wear 1344 01:14:20,380 --> 01:14:24,260 sitting in front of, sort of, gougers and yahoos and corner boys, 1345 01:14:24,260 --> 01:14:25,660 you know, drug dealing 1346 01:14:25,660 --> 01:14:28,380 and, like, beating up people when the pubs came out. 1347 01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:32,540 They would stand in the dock in front of people dressed as this. 1348 01:14:32,540 --> 01:14:33,660 Are you serious? 1349 01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:36,220 "Jeez, what do you got on there, your honour?!" You know? 1350 01:14:36,220 --> 01:14:37,980 And of course, every lawyer who saw this 1351 01:14:37,980 --> 01:14:39,940 thinking they were going to be judges 1352 01:14:39,940 --> 01:14:42,780 in the new independent country were looking at it, 1353 01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:45,980 "You can fuck off if you think I'm ever going to wear that." 1354 01:14:45,980 --> 01:14:47,900 What...? 1355 01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:57,260 Regardless of what some in Ireland thought of WB Yeats' Irishness, 1356 01:14:57,260 --> 01:15:00,180 in 1923, Europe and the world 1357 01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:03,420 were about to recognise the greatness of his poetry. 1358 01:15:06,340 --> 01:15:09,780 The Nobel Prize then, as now, is huge. 1359 01:15:09,780 --> 01:15:13,980 For the country, it's such an honour 1360 01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:18,660 and it's taken as not just an imprimatur of genius 1361 01:15:18,660 --> 01:15:23,020 but that Ireland has been fully accepted now 1362 01:15:23,020 --> 01:15:25,220 into the great states of the world. 1363 01:15:26,980 --> 01:15:28,820 The winning of the Nobel Prize 1364 01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:33,580 showed that there was a world recognition of this... 1365 01:15:33,580 --> 01:15:36,740 of this poet and of the literature that he championed. 1366 01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:40,660 So, you know, we didn't have to feel ashamed of it 1367 01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:43,060 or feel in any way that it was second rate or whatever. 1368 01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:45,340 This had been recognised internationally 1369 01:15:45,340 --> 01:15:48,020 and we could embrace it without any feeling at all 1370 01:15:48,020 --> 01:15:51,420 that we were embracing the colonialists' language. 1371 01:15:51,420 --> 01:15:55,060 He was a more important ambassador for our state 1372 01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:57,540 then any statesman who was Taoiseach, 1373 01:15:57,540 --> 01:15:59,100 or, as it would have been called, 1374 01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:01,740 President of the Executive Council at the time. So, 1375 01:16:01,740 --> 01:16:03,100 did the new state fail him? 1376 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:06,820 Yes. It was... 1377 01:16:06,820 --> 01:16:08,860 It was petty and he wasn't. Ever. 1378 01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:15,940 Witheringly, and insultingly, 1379 01:16:15,940 --> 01:16:20,620 the Catholic press branded Willie and his like "new ascendancy." 1380 01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:25,100 They dismissed him as a neopagan agnostic Freemason pensioner. 1381 01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:29,340 They couldn't handle his utter belief in the integrity of art 1382 01:16:29,340 --> 01:16:33,700 and the artistic, independent revolutionary voice. 1383 01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:35,420 The Catholic Church, of course, 1384 01:16:35,420 --> 01:16:37,620 could never reconcile themselves to it. 1385 01:16:37,620 --> 01:16:39,700 They were spiteful, they were full of hatred 1386 01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:42,340 because he represented everything that they were not - 1387 01:16:42,340 --> 01:16:47,540 openness, pluralism, modernity, the individual, the thoughtful, 1388 01:16:47,540 --> 01:16:51,700 the less than infantile Irish that they insisted we were. 1389 01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:54,420 The patrimony of the Catholic Church. 1390 01:16:54,420 --> 01:16:55,860 "Father. Oh, father." 1391 01:16:55,860 --> 01:16:57,980 Father? You're not my fucking father. 1392 01:16:57,980 --> 01:17:00,820 You know? So he resisted all that. 1393 01:17:02,420 --> 01:17:03,860 Yeats' Abbey Theatre 1394 01:17:03,860 --> 01:17:07,780 had first outraged the narrow-minded patrons in 1907, 1395 01:17:07,780 --> 01:17:11,260 shocked at Synge's new realism and his depiction of the language, 1396 01:17:11,260 --> 01:17:14,020 earthiness and sexual frankness of the Irish 1397 01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:16,060 in Playboy Of The Western World. 1398 01:17:16,060 --> 01:17:18,860 In 1926, he was at it again 1399 01:17:18,860 --> 01:17:21,500 with Sean O'Casey's The Plough And The Stars, 1400 01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:24,260 a less than reverent take on the holy rising 1401 01:17:24,260 --> 01:17:26,100 of just ten years earlier, 1402 01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,340 written by a man who, as a committed socialist and revolutionary, 1403 01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:31,460 had every right to his opinion. 1404 01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:36,300 The Plough And The Stars is important 1405 01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:40,380 because it totally fitted in to where Yeats was at that time. 1406 01:17:40,380 --> 01:17:44,100 He was the public man who'd stepped up to the plate. 1407 01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:47,260 He'd been going on and on and on and on and on. 1408 01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:50,380 Really, now, people were fed up of this guy going on 1409 01:17:50,380 --> 01:17:52,580 about the Ireland that should be. 1410 01:17:52,580 --> 01:17:56,300 O'Casey's play dared question the Rising and its leaders 1411 01:17:56,300 --> 01:17:58,300 and Yeats would defend to the death 1412 01:17:58,300 --> 01:18:01,740 any artist's right to do precisely that. 1413 01:18:01,740 --> 01:18:05,540 This is viewed as a national disgrace. 1414 01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:09,300 Already these men have been set in stone on plinths. 1415 01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:14,380 Already, the GPO, 1916 are shibboleths. 1416 01:18:14,380 --> 01:18:17,100 You cannot say anything against them. 1417 01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:22,820 They are utterly totemic and vital to the national sense of self. 1418 01:18:22,820 --> 01:18:25,020 O'Casey is very hardcore about it. 1419 01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:27,100 He's saying, "What was all that for? 1420 01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:29,420 "That didn't really work. 1421 01:18:29,420 --> 01:18:32,940 "Who are we? What is it we wanted to be?" 1422 01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:36,300 All hell breaks loose again. 1423 01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:39,020 And they couldn't handle that. 1424 01:18:39,020 --> 01:18:42,820 In the same way that Playboy had held up the mirror, 1425 01:18:42,820 --> 01:18:45,940 this newer Ireland had a mirror held up to itself 1426 01:18:45,940 --> 01:18:47,500 and they couldn't stand it. 1427 01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:52,780 But this time, he ain't going to debate anything. 1428 01:18:52,780 --> 01:18:55,300 This time, there is a real rage 1429 01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:58,060 cos he genuinely, like Synge, thinks, 1430 01:18:58,060 --> 01:19:00,820 "Here's the new one, here's the new genius." 1431 01:19:00,820 --> 01:19:02,300 So he walks out on the stage, 1432 01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:05,740 and the cartoons would show you that stance here, 1433 01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:09,180 right here at this point, staring at them. 1434 01:19:09,180 --> 01:19:10,820 He shouts at them, 1435 01:19:10,820 --> 01:19:13,020 "You've disgraced yourselves again. 1436 01:19:13,020 --> 01:19:17,180 "You've disgraced yourselves again!" 1437 01:19:17,180 --> 01:19:20,140 It's not a headmaster chastising the class, it's... 1438 01:19:22,220 --> 01:19:23,900 ..it's the disappointed leader. 1439 01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:32,100 I'm not sure Willie had it in him any more. 1440 01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:34,780 He was getting old and jaded. 1441 01:19:34,780 --> 01:19:38,380 Perhaps the grubby and pious Ireland he had found himself in 1442 01:19:38,380 --> 01:19:41,420 was not the romantic island he'd dreamed of. 1443 01:19:41,420 --> 01:19:45,580 He retired from his role as senator in 1928, his health failing. 1444 01:19:45,580 --> 01:19:49,860 He said he wished to live his remaining years as a bee 1445 01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:51,700 rather than a wasp. 1446 01:19:53,580 --> 01:19:57,020 Willie's version of Ireland was being smothered. 1447 01:19:57,020 --> 01:19:59,980 But one of his greatest weapons was outrage. 1448 01:19:59,980 --> 01:20:01,540 New stark, sexual poems, 1449 01:20:01,540 --> 01:20:04,660 sometimes written in a woman's voice, Crazy Jane, 1450 01:20:04,660 --> 01:20:06,700 always speaking the unspeakable. 1451 01:20:08,740 --> 01:20:10,140 A sudden blow. 1452 01:20:11,260 --> 01:20:15,020 The great wings beating still above the staggering girl 1453 01:20:15,020 --> 01:20:17,780 Her thighs caressed by the dark webs 1454 01:20:17,780 --> 01:20:19,740 Her nape caught in his bill 1455 01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:23,540 He holds her helpless breast upon his breast 1456 01:20:23,540 --> 01:20:27,460 How can those terrified vague fingers push 1457 01:20:27,460 --> 01:20:31,100 The feathered glory from her loosening thighs? 1458 01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:34,740 What lively lad most pleasured me 1459 01:20:34,740 --> 01:20:38,060 Of all that with me lay? 1460 01:20:38,060 --> 01:20:40,340 I answer that I gave my soul 1461 01:20:40,340 --> 01:20:42,660 And loved in misery 1462 01:20:42,660 --> 01:20:44,620 But had great pleasure with a lad 1463 01:20:44,620 --> 01:20:46,580 That I loved bodily. 1464 01:20:46,580 --> 01:20:50,260 No ups and downs, my pretty 1465 01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:52,540 A mermaid, not a punk 1466 01:20:52,540 --> 01:20:55,380 A drunkard is a dead man 1467 01:20:55,380 --> 01:20:57,700 And all dead men are drunk. 1468 01:20:57,700 --> 01:21:00,740 THEY LAUGH 1469 01:21:00,740 --> 01:21:02,780 It's great, isn't it? 1470 01:21:02,780 --> 01:21:04,140 It's like one of yours! 1471 01:21:05,860 --> 01:21:09,580 He started to reminisce about his class, his caste, 1472 01:21:09,580 --> 01:21:11,060 where he came from. 1473 01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:13,380 He had an affinity not just for the West of Ireland 1474 01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:15,860 but for the Protestant ascendancy, the big house. 1475 01:21:15,860 --> 01:21:17,820 He wasn't a natural democrat 1476 01:21:17,820 --> 01:21:20,900 and harboured a lifelong suspicion of the mob. 1477 01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:24,580 He believed in that ancient Homeric view of the aristocracy 1478 01:21:24,580 --> 01:21:27,660 to lead a country, corresponding to his interest in Nietzsche 1479 01:21:27,660 --> 01:21:29,740 and the hierarchy of class. 1480 01:21:29,740 --> 01:21:33,660 He felt great families were wiser than governments. 1481 01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:38,100 He was a bit of a snob. 1482 01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:40,260 He wanted to be here and he got here 1483 01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:44,180 and he got here because he became the famous writer. 1484 01:21:44,180 --> 01:21:46,900 Arise and bid me strike a match 1485 01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:49,460 And strike another till time catch 1486 01:21:49,460 --> 01:21:51,700 Should the conflagration climb 1487 01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:53,820 Run till all the sages know 1488 01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:56,060 We the great gazebo built 1489 01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:57,820 They convicted us of guilt 1490 01:21:57,820 --> 01:21:59,900 Bid me strike a match and blow. 1491 01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:08,580 Part of his insistence that we the great gazebo built, 1492 01:22:08,580 --> 01:22:11,100 the great gazebo of Ireland, it is... 1493 01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:14,300 It's your thing, it is our thing, we cannot be dismissed. 1494 01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:16,020 We are no petty people. 1495 01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:17,700 Of course he was right. 1496 01:22:19,460 --> 01:22:23,980 He predicted an unspecific and terrifying dark era in Europe. 1497 01:22:23,980 --> 01:22:28,100 And his fear of communism led him to a misguided dabble in fascism. 1498 01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:30,820 He wrote silly marching songs for Ireland's Blue Shirts, 1499 01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:33,580 a right wing movement of the early 1930s, 1500 01:22:33,580 --> 01:22:36,380 until he realised they were nothing more than a cabal 1501 01:22:36,380 --> 01:22:38,700 of the conservative Catholics he despised. 1502 01:22:42,460 --> 01:22:45,100 He felt impotent about how the world was going, 1503 01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:47,180 about where Ireland was going, 1504 01:22:47,180 --> 01:22:49,300 about where old age was taking him. 1505 01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:54,460 I ranted to the knave and fool 1506 01:22:54,460 --> 01:22:56,540 But outgrew that school 1507 01:22:56,540 --> 01:22:58,540 Would transform the part 1508 01:22:58,540 --> 01:23:01,460 Fit audience found, but cannot rule 1509 01:23:01,460 --> 01:23:02,700 My fanatic heart. 1510 01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:06,580 I sought my betters 1511 01:23:06,580 --> 01:23:07,740 Though in each 1512 01:23:07,740 --> 01:23:09,500 Fine manners, liberal speech 1513 01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:11,940 Turn hatred into sport 1514 01:23:11,940 --> 01:23:14,140 Nothing said or done can reach 1515 01:23:14,140 --> 01:23:15,060 My fanatic heart 1516 01:23:17,020 --> 01:23:18,940 Out of Ireland have we come 1517 01:23:18,940 --> 01:23:21,620 Great hatred, little room 1518 01:23:21,620 --> 01:23:23,700 Maimed us at the start 1519 01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:25,620 I carry from my mother's womb 1520 01:23:25,620 --> 01:23:26,860 A fanatic heart. 1521 01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:31,740 That's another great line - 1522 01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:33,620 we turn hatred into sport. I know. 1523 01:23:35,820 --> 01:23:39,260 You think it horrible that lust and rage 1524 01:23:39,260 --> 01:23:42,100 Should dance attendance upon my old age? 1525 01:23:43,820 --> 01:23:46,980 They were not such a plague when I was young 1526 01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:49,780 What else have I to spur me into song? 1527 01:23:51,580 --> 01:23:53,020 Yeats had a family, 1528 01:23:53,020 --> 01:23:54,980 a patient and loving wife, 1529 01:23:54,980 --> 01:23:58,660 but also a permanent gaggle of rackety female admirers. 1530 01:23:58,660 --> 01:24:04,500 Sex, like all acts of creativity, happens first and most in the mind. 1531 01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:08,420 And sexual frisson had always been the source of his writing energies, 1532 01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:12,060 yet his impotence left him creatively barren. 1533 01:24:12,060 --> 01:24:16,980 But then, in London, he heard about an unlikely medical procedure. 1534 01:24:16,980 --> 01:24:19,620 What is a Steinach operation? 1535 01:24:19,620 --> 01:24:24,260 Oh, well, there are a whole lot of things going on at this time, 1536 01:24:24,260 --> 01:24:25,980 early 20th-century, 1537 01:24:25,980 --> 01:24:30,180 now that they have discovered the idea of glands and hormones. 1538 01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:33,060 And the idea of sexual glands and hormones 1539 01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:36,660 to, you know, restore people's sexual potency. 1540 01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:41,140 And the Steinach operation was one of the less out there things, 1541 01:24:41,140 --> 01:24:45,660 because it didn't actually involve transplanting monkey glands. 1542 01:24:45,660 --> 01:24:49,500 It was actually a one-sided vasectomy. 1543 01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:54,540 And the idea was that by cutting off the seminal cells 1544 01:24:54,540 --> 01:24:56,580 and causing them to atrophy, 1545 01:24:56,580 --> 01:25:00,020 the other cells in the testes would proliferate 1546 01:25:00,020 --> 01:25:02,700 and recirculate in the bloodstream 1547 01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:08,260 and restore youth and vitality to the man who had it done. 1548 01:25:08,260 --> 01:25:10,980 And this wasn't just about sexual potency, 1549 01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:14,140 it was also about productivity, 1550 01:25:14,140 --> 01:25:18,140 ability to, you know, in the case of Yeats, to write poetry. 1551 01:25:18,140 --> 01:25:21,460 But, you know, in all sorts of other ways to restore men 1552 01:25:21,460 --> 01:25:26,180 to full, you know, productive and creative vigour. Did it work? 1553 01:25:26,180 --> 01:25:27,780 No... Well, 1554 01:25:27,780 --> 01:25:29,420 it was said to work 1555 01:25:29,420 --> 01:25:33,260 but I think the placebo effect is a very strong thing. 1556 01:25:34,740 --> 01:25:38,860 How can I, that girl standing there 1557 01:25:38,860 --> 01:25:44,420 My attention fix on Roman or on Russian or on Spanish politics 1558 01:25:44,420 --> 01:25:47,260 Yet here's a travelled man that knows what he talks about 1559 01:25:47,260 --> 01:25:48,580 And there's a politician 1560 01:25:48,580 --> 01:25:50,140 That has both read and thought 1561 01:25:50,140 --> 01:25:52,900 And maybe what they say is true 1562 01:25:52,900 --> 01:25:54,820 Of war and war's alarms 1563 01:25:54,820 --> 01:25:57,700 But O that I were young again 1564 01:25:57,700 --> 01:25:59,740 And held her in my arms. 1565 01:26:02,900 --> 01:26:09,500 Part of the keynote of Yeats' last decade, the 1930s, is frustration. 1566 01:26:09,500 --> 01:26:11,420 Frustration on all sorts of levels. 1567 01:26:11,420 --> 01:26:14,420 There is, in a celebrated way, his sexual frustration, 1568 01:26:14,420 --> 01:26:16,780 his declining potency, 1569 01:26:16,780 --> 01:26:19,100 which he attempts to reverse with this operation. 1570 01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:26,060 His obsessive pursuit of usually pretty willing women 1571 01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:31,220 to reignite some sort of sexual excitement in his life. 1572 01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:35,100 with Edith Heald, with Ethel Mannin, 1573 01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:37,780 even with Dorothy Wellesley, though she was a lesbian, 1574 01:26:37,780 --> 01:26:39,340 with Margot Ruddock. 1575 01:26:39,340 --> 01:26:44,380 And all this, I think, links very much to a sense of mortality. 1576 01:26:44,380 --> 01:26:46,660 He has been seriously ill in the late '20s, 1577 01:26:46,660 --> 01:26:48,300 nearly died in the late '20s. 1578 01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:51,260 The wonderful Byzantium poems come out of his recovery 1579 01:26:51,260 --> 01:26:53,380 from a near death experience. 1580 01:26:53,380 --> 01:26:55,420 And I think when you read them in that light, 1581 01:26:55,420 --> 01:26:57,020 they make a special sense. 1582 01:26:58,300 --> 01:27:00,300 That is no country for old men 1583 01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:03,940 The young in one another's arms, birds in the trees 1584 01:27:03,940 --> 01:27:07,180 Those dying generations at their song 1585 01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:11,020 The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas 1586 01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:16,220 Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long 1587 01:27:16,220 --> 01:27:20,260 Whatever is begotten, born, and dies 1588 01:27:20,260 --> 01:27:23,540 Caught in that sensual music 1589 01:27:23,540 --> 01:27:25,460 All neglect 1590 01:27:25,460 --> 01:27:28,380 Monuments of unaging intellect. 1591 01:27:30,900 --> 01:27:32,860 As Yeats' age increased 1592 01:27:32,860 --> 01:27:39,220 and all the vicissitudes that attend old age dropped down on him, 1593 01:27:39,220 --> 01:27:44,380 he was very aware that life was becoming limiting. 1594 01:27:44,380 --> 01:27:49,260 And he wrote to his great friend Olivia Shakespear, he said, 1595 01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:53,940 "My age increases my change. My need for freedom grows." 1596 01:27:53,940 --> 01:27:56,820 And for Yeats in the later years, 1597 01:27:56,820 --> 01:28:01,420 freedom for him was represented by the Mediterranean. 1598 01:28:01,420 --> 01:28:05,980 "The encouraging presence of palm trees," he called it. 1599 01:28:05,980 --> 01:28:08,980 An aged man is but a paltry thing 1600 01:28:08,980 --> 01:28:12,220 A tattered coat upon a stick, unless 1601 01:28:12,220 --> 01:28:16,460 Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing 1602 01:28:16,460 --> 01:28:20,060 For every tatter in its mortal dress. 1603 01:28:24,180 --> 01:28:28,580 He needed to come to the south of France to winter here. 1604 01:28:28,580 --> 01:28:32,980 He'd spend summers in England with his various lady friends, 1605 01:28:32,980 --> 01:28:35,940 but also back at home in Rathfarnham in Dublin 1606 01:28:35,940 --> 01:28:37,780 with his wife and the kids, 1607 01:28:37,780 --> 01:28:42,940 though that was increasingly becoming a sort of... 1608 01:28:44,060 --> 01:28:47,500 ..nurse and patient relationship. 1609 01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:49,420 Again, the more you read, 1610 01:28:49,420 --> 01:28:52,220 the more your admiration for his wife increases 1611 01:28:52,220 --> 01:28:54,620 and the more he becomes a sort of... 1612 01:28:54,620 --> 01:28:58,500 a contrary oul' fella, really. 1613 01:28:58,500 --> 01:28:59,900 A Drinking Song. 1614 01:28:59,900 --> 01:29:01,500 Wine comes in at the mouth 1615 01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:03,460 And love comes in at the eye 1616 01:29:03,460 --> 01:29:05,100 That's all we shall know for truth 1617 01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:07,220 Before we grow old and die 1618 01:29:07,220 --> 01:29:08,700 I lift the glass to my mouth 1619 01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:10,020 I look at you, and I sigh. 1620 01:29:11,540 --> 01:29:13,420 That's it? That's it. 1621 01:29:13,420 --> 01:29:15,740 OK. Not bad. 1622 01:29:15,740 --> 01:29:17,860 I like those short ones! 1623 01:29:23,460 --> 01:29:24,700 I think he was... 1624 01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:29,780 ..wilful, self-important, 1625 01:29:29,780 --> 01:29:34,020 self obsessed and involved to the nth - 1626 01:29:34,020 --> 01:29:38,700 and maybe, when you read about other great geniuses, 1627 01:29:38,700 --> 01:29:40,260 maybe that's what is required. 1628 01:29:40,260 --> 01:29:44,980 But sadly, with his children, 1629 01:29:44,980 --> 01:29:50,300 with his wife, with his many, many muses... 1630 01:29:52,420 --> 01:29:53,820 ..was he capable of love? 1631 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:57,180 And that's the great irony. 1632 01:29:57,180 --> 01:30:02,900 The man who wrote some of the greatest love poems 1633 01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:07,540 ever imagined in the English language 1634 01:30:07,540 --> 01:30:11,260 possibly actually never understood what it was. 1635 01:30:14,140 --> 01:30:16,500 A most astonishing thing 1636 01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:18,380 Seventy years have I lived 1637 01:30:19,460 --> 01:30:21,780 Hurrah for the flowers of Spring 1638 01:30:21,780 --> 01:30:23,580 For Spring is here again 1639 01:30:24,900 --> 01:30:26,780 Seventy years have I lived 1640 01:30:26,780 --> 01:30:29,980 No ragged beggar man 1641 01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:32,420 Seventy years have I lived 1642 01:30:32,420 --> 01:30:34,780 Seventy years man and boy 1643 01:30:35,980 --> 01:30:38,460 And never have I danced for joy. 1644 01:30:41,300 --> 01:30:42,660 Yeah. 1645 01:30:42,660 --> 01:30:44,100 Poor fucker. Mmm. 1646 01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:50,700 Willie's father had once brilliantly said 1647 01:30:50,700 --> 01:30:54,820 that their family tended to die slowly, like great empires. 1648 01:30:56,140 --> 01:31:01,660 WB Yeats died peacefully on 28th January 1939, 1649 01:31:01,660 --> 01:31:04,540 surrounded by his wife and his female friends. 1650 01:31:07,420 --> 01:31:09,620 He understood he was going. 1651 01:31:09,620 --> 01:31:12,780 Almost the very, very last act 1652 01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:17,100 was to change one of the great final poems 1653 01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:19,460 constructed in the last couple of weeks 1654 01:31:19,460 --> 01:31:22,700 from the title His Convictions 1655 01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:24,660 to Under Ben Bulben. 1656 01:31:24,660 --> 01:31:28,540 Knowing what he was doing at the last moment - Under Ben Bulben, 1657 01:31:28,540 --> 01:31:32,460 he is writing himself into, finally, 1658 01:31:32,460 --> 01:31:36,340 the pantheon of great Irish heroes, 1659 01:31:36,340 --> 01:31:39,380 beyond the literary genius, the word genius. 1660 01:31:39,380 --> 01:31:42,140 No, under the pantheon of great Irish heroes. 1661 01:31:43,340 --> 01:31:45,540 Before he died, he instructed George 1662 01:31:45,540 --> 01:31:47,980 to bury him for a year here in Roquebrune 1663 01:31:47,980 --> 01:31:50,420 until the fuss died down back in Ireland 1664 01:31:50,420 --> 01:31:52,100 and then take him home to Sligo. 1665 01:31:54,740 --> 01:31:58,740 They took a plot of land up here for a brief period of time. 1666 01:31:58,740 --> 01:31:59,940 But war broke out, 1667 01:31:59,940 --> 01:32:02,580 so they couldn't bring him back to Sligo after a year. 1668 01:32:02,580 --> 01:32:04,860 Instead, they dug up bones 1669 01:32:04,860 --> 01:32:06,860 when the lease had run out on the ground 1670 01:32:06,860 --> 01:32:09,220 and put them down in that building there, 1671 01:32:09,220 --> 01:32:10,940 where the terracotta tiles are. 1672 01:32:10,940 --> 01:32:12,900 After the war, 1673 01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:16,020 Ireland wanted their great national poet home. 1674 01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:22,100 So the French returned some bones that some people say aren't Yeats, 1675 01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:24,060 they're another fellow called Alfred Hollis 1676 01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:26,900 who had been buried beside him, or some other geezer. 1677 01:32:26,900 --> 01:32:29,180 I mean, I love the joke. 1678 01:32:29,180 --> 01:32:31,380 I love the absurdity, as the Irish do. 1679 01:32:31,380 --> 01:32:33,300 But it is utterly meaningless. 1680 01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:35,740 The pilgrimages to Drumcliff, 1681 01:32:35,740 --> 01:32:38,820 that small little graveyard under Benbulben, 1682 01:32:38,820 --> 01:32:41,580 continue from all over the world. Why? 1683 01:32:41,580 --> 01:32:44,100 Not because of what bones are there 1684 01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:47,420 but because of this great genius. 1685 01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:52,340 Cast your mind on other days 1686 01:32:52,340 --> 01:32:54,060 That we in coming days may be 1687 01:32:54,060 --> 01:32:57,020 Still the indomitable Irishry 1688 01:32:57,020 --> 01:32:59,300 Under bare Ben Bulben's head 1689 01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:00,820 In Drumcliff churchyard 1690 01:33:00,820 --> 01:33:02,540 Yeats is laid 1691 01:33:02,540 --> 01:33:04,460 An ancestor was rector there 1692 01:33:04,460 --> 01:33:07,700 Long years ago, a church stands near 1693 01:33:07,700 --> 01:33:10,900 By the road an ancient Cross 1694 01:33:10,900 --> 01:33:13,220 No marble, no conventional phrase 1695 01:33:13,220 --> 01:33:15,940 On limestone quarried near the spot 1696 01:33:15,940 --> 01:33:18,900 By his command these words are cut 1697 01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:21,340 Cast a cold eye 1698 01:33:21,340 --> 01:33:23,660 On life, on death 1699 01:33:23,660 --> 01:33:25,580 Horseman, pass by! 1700 01:33:29,140 --> 01:33:33,260 In the end, Roy, how important is Yeats to Ireland? 1701 01:33:33,260 --> 01:33:35,740 I think Yeats is of central importance 1702 01:33:35,740 --> 01:33:38,820 to the Irish sense of identity. 1703 01:33:38,820 --> 01:33:41,700 Partly because he so... 1704 01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:46,460 brilliantly and aggressively flouted it in his own lifetime. 1705 01:33:46,460 --> 01:33:49,300 And you get the sense there that Yeats to the very end was, 1706 01:33:49,300 --> 01:33:50,980 as I think Stephen Gwynn said, 1707 01:33:50,980 --> 01:33:53,900 tearing down idols in the marketplace. 1708 01:33:53,900 --> 01:33:56,580 And I think that's a great thing to do. 1709 01:33:56,580 --> 01:34:00,220 There's been far too many idols in the Irish marketplace. 1710 01:34:00,220 --> 01:34:03,940 Yeats devoted his life to tearing them down 1711 01:34:03,940 --> 01:34:05,620 or to questioning them. 1712 01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:07,860 And I think one of the very interesting things 1713 01:34:07,860 --> 01:34:10,900 is how he is impossible to get away from. 1714 01:34:10,900 --> 01:34:13,180 No matter where you look at Irish identity 1715 01:34:13,180 --> 01:34:14,940 and Irish cultural history from, 1716 01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:16,700 he keeps coming up. 1717 01:34:16,700 --> 01:34:17,940 As George Moore said, 1718 01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:20,860 everything begins in Yeats and everything ends in Yeats. 1719 01:34:23,260 --> 01:34:26,500 Ireland, like everywhere, acknowledges its heroes - 1720 01:34:26,500 --> 01:34:28,420 often the wrong ones - 1721 01:34:28,420 --> 01:34:32,100 its loudmouths and its literary geniuses. 1722 01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,420 But WB, he's at the top of the heap. 1723 01:34:35,420 --> 01:34:37,340 He's in our DNA. 1724 01:34:37,340 --> 01:34:41,180 His childhood playground in Sligo is now officially Yeats Country 1725 01:34:41,180 --> 01:34:44,300 for thousands of tourists every year. 1726 01:34:44,300 --> 01:34:46,900 Under Benbulben, I even found an illustrator 1727 01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:50,740 who created an entire book just about his appalling love life. 1728 01:34:50,740 --> 01:34:53,180 This is a fantastic piece. 1729 01:34:53,180 --> 01:34:55,940 That was one of the first ones I did. 1730 01:34:55,940 --> 01:34:58,700 "Yeats proposes to Maud the first time." 1731 01:34:58,700 --> 01:35:02,540 You can see all womanhood behind the window jeering! 1732 01:35:02,540 --> 01:35:04,580 I know, it's all terribly symbolic. 1733 01:35:04,580 --> 01:35:06,940 "Maud Gonne has said yes!" 1734 01:35:06,940 --> 01:35:09,620 HE LAUGHS 1735 01:35:09,620 --> 01:35:13,340 But you know what, it's true, he wouldn't have written a note. 1736 01:35:13,340 --> 01:35:18,940 WH Auden said of Yeats, "Mad Ireland hurt you into poetry." 1737 01:35:18,940 --> 01:35:21,300 But he was our mad old eejit - 1738 01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:24,140 a permanent adolescent and, above all, 1739 01:35:24,140 --> 01:35:28,700 an obsessive about love, life, about Ireland. 1740 01:35:28,700 --> 01:35:32,420 Auden also said he was silly, like us. 1741 01:35:32,420 --> 01:35:36,900 But Yeats wasn't silly when he said, "My weapon is my verse 1742 01:35:36,900 --> 01:35:40,740 "and it takes 50 years for a poet's weapons to influence the issue." 1743 01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:43,420 50 years after WB died, 1744 01:35:43,420 --> 01:35:47,020 we elected a woman as president, a human rights lawyer. 1745 01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:50,420 The power and fear of the Catholic Church collapsed. 1746 01:35:50,420 --> 01:35:54,580 We finally started to see an Ireland based on peace, pluralism 1747 01:35:54,580 --> 01:35:55,860 and respect. 1748 01:35:56,940 --> 01:35:58,980 Now that's Yeats country. 1749 01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:09,740 He is a great historical figure, he is a great radical, 1750 01:36:09,740 --> 01:36:12,660 he's a great revolutionary, he's a great nationalist, 1751 01:36:12,660 --> 01:36:14,180 he's a great patriot. 1752 01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:17,660 Did he succeed? 1753 01:36:19,260 --> 01:36:22,700 From that objective here in Sligo, as a kid, 1754 01:36:22,700 --> 01:36:25,780 did he win in the end what he set out to do? 1755 01:36:25,780 --> 01:36:28,020 Absolutely. Did he transform the country? 1756 01:36:28,020 --> 01:36:30,660 Absolutely. Did he transform literature? 1757 01:36:30,660 --> 01:36:32,300 Absolutely. 1758 01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:35,460 And at the end of his life, he sort of said, 1759 01:36:35,460 --> 01:36:37,500 "What's it all about?" 1760 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:40,220 And he looked back and in another... 1761 01:36:41,420 --> 01:36:46,500 ..literally deathless poem, he asked the question 'What Then?' 1762 01:36:47,900 --> 01:36:52,420 His chosen comrades thought at school he must grow a famous man 1763 01:36:52,420 --> 01:36:55,020 He thought the same and lived by rule 1764 01:36:55,020 --> 01:36:57,660 All his twenties crammed with toil 1765 01:36:58,780 --> 01:37:00,860 "What then?" sang Plato's ghost 1766 01:37:00,860 --> 01:37:02,700 "What then?" 1767 01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:04,860 Everything he wrote was read 1768 01:37:04,860 --> 01:37:08,820 After certain years he won sufficient money for his need 1769 01:37:08,820 --> 01:37:11,060 Friends that have been friends indeed 1770 01:37:11,060 --> 01:37:13,220 "What then?" sang Plato's ghost 1771 01:37:13,220 --> 01:37:14,620 "What then?" 1772 01:37:14,620 --> 01:37:18,180 All his happier dreams came true 1773 01:37:18,180 --> 01:37:20,980 A small old house, wife, daughter, son 1774 01:37:20,980 --> 01:37:23,620 Grounds where plum and cabbage grew 1775 01:37:23,620 --> 01:37:25,620 Poets and wits about him drew 1776 01:37:25,620 --> 01:37:28,220 "What then?" sang Plato's ghost 1777 01:37:28,220 --> 01:37:29,180 "What then?" 1778 01:37:30,580 --> 01:37:33,860 The work is done, grown old he thought 1779 01:37:33,860 --> 01:37:36,020 According to my boyish plan 1780 01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:37,540 Let the fools rage 1781 01:37:37,540 --> 01:37:38,900 I swerved in naught 1782 01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:41,500 Something to perfection brought 1783 01:37:41,500 --> 01:37:44,620 But louder sang that ghost 1784 01:37:44,620 --> 01:37:46,340 "What then?" 1785 01:37:46,340 --> 01:37:47,900 Well, the answer is Ireland. 1786 01:37:50,740 --> 01:37:54,420 # I walk beside you 1787 01:37:54,420 --> 01:37:58,460 # Through the world today 1788 01:37:58,460 --> 01:38:01,580 # While dreams and songs 1789 01:38:01,580 --> 01:38:05,660 # And lovers bless your way 1790 01:38:05,660 --> 01:38:08,780 # I look into your eyes 1791 01:38:08,780 --> 01:38:12,380 # And hold your hand 1792 01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:15,980 # I'll walk beside you 1793 01:38:15,980 --> 01:38:20,540 # Through the golden land. # 145247

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