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I was four years old
the first time
that I was abducted.
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When I woke up
and felt a lump behind my ear,
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I had to get whatever this wasout of my body.
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The first thing I see are
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these two setsof tracks walking
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beside each other,
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and they were
very creepy looking.
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[Thor] I was on my wayto visit Yvette on my boat.
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Something caught my eye.
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I don't know what the heck
these things are.
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So are you prepared
for me to talk
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about the analysis
of what we looked at?
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I cannot wait.
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This is one
of the most compelling cases
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that we've seen.
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[woman] I see it again.
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I see it! I see it!
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[woman 2] Oh, my God.
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Holy [bleep].
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[man] You've got to see this.
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You've got to see this.
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[narrator] Around the world,
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people are witnessingand capturing
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unexplained phenomenaevery day.
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There's a feeling you get.
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The hairs on your arms
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and your neck
kind of stand up.
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[woman 3]
What the [bleep] is that?
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There was a lot
that pointed me
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in the direction
of something non-human.
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[woman 4] Oh, [bleep],
there it goes.
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[man 2 speaking]
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[narrator] And they arelooking for answers.
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It left me with a lot of...
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questions.
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[narrator] The recent releaseof thousands of pages
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of declassifiedU.S. government documents,
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whistleblower testimony...
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[Fravor] These objects hadbeen observed
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for over two weeks
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coming down
from over 80,000 feet.
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[narrator] ...andshocking new evidence
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could hold the answer.
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Can you confirm
that's what it was?
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-Yes, that's what it was.
-[Chrissy] Okay.
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[narrator] Now, twoexpert investigators will use
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this new information
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and their expertise
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to unlock the truth.
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[exhales] I'm...
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experiencing chills over here.
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Mitch Horowitz isan author and historian,
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known forhis investigative research
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into the unexplained.
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You all have had
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some very mysterious
experiences.
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The video was
extremely compelling.
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[narrator] And Chrissy Newtonis a journalist
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and authorityon space, science,
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and the unknown.
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And we were told that this was
a secret location.
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Absolutely.
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And when I looked up,
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I saw a UFO in the sky.
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[narrator] Thousandsof experiencers came forward
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and submittedtheir personal stories
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and evidencefor examination...
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These beings were
so gloriously beautiful.
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[narrator] ...hopingto finally separate fact
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from fiction.
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[Mitch] Based on everything
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that you've brought
to the table,
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you witnessed a UFO.
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Roswell's such
an interesting place.
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I love it 'cause they embrace
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the UFO culture.
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They know it. They live by it.
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They're just livingthe counterculture.
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[Mitch] The thing I love
about this bar
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and all local
watering holes is
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you feel people are here.
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Yeah. And this is
the only bar in Roswell.
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This is where you come, chat,
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to exchange UFO stories...
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- [Mitch] Right.
- [Chrissy] ...connect.
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This is
the local watering hole,
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-like, hands down.
-Yeah.
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-Oh, hey. How you doing?
-[ladies] Hi.
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-And too.
-Nice to meet you.
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[Mitch] Have a seat, please.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Thank you for having me.
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-And I'm very excited
to meet you both.
-[Mitch] Absolutely.
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What we wanted to ask,
first and foremost,
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in your own words,
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you briefly tell us
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what your experience has been
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and when
and where it occurred.
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My name is Rachel Hoffman,
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and I think I was
abducted by aliens
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seven times since 1984.
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I'm the mother
of four children,
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and I live in Hudson Valley.
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I was four years old
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the first time
that I was abducted.
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I'm one
of four children at the time,
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and we were all sleeping
in the same bed together.
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And I was
on the edge of the bed
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when I feltsomething lifting me up.
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I felt gravity
with my hair falling backwards
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and my nightgown
falling backwards
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as I was
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taken out of a window
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and brought up
into the vessel.
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The ship,
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it was so cold.I was freezing.
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Every hair on my body wasstanding up.
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I don't think I was supposed
to see what I saw.
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The room had tables,
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and the tables had
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hands and feet,
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arms and legs
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that didn't have
bodies attached to them.
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Next to that,
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there were embryos.
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I also saw a fetus in a jar.
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I was four years old,
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and the fetus wasas big as me.
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It looked like
an experiment gone wrong.
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When they had me on the table,
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they were doing
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ultrasounds on my abdomen.
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They were poking and prodding.
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They were taking
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bits and pieces of me.
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They were robbing
my body parts,
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and they were taking my eggs.
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I remember thinking to myself,
"I just want my dad.
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I just want my dad."
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And then I woke up.
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When I was six years old,
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I saw an arm
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above me of a robot
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with a needle in it.
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And the needle came down
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and began to extract
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fluid from the center
of my nose.
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When the needle went in,
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it felt like it went
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straight through my boneinto my brain.
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Each time this was done to me,
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I didn't even blink.
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And I never closed my eyes.
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As the needle went back upinto the ceiling of the ship,
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I was picked up by the alien
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that brought me
back and forth.
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I used to call him the butler.
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The butler looked like
an octopus out of water.
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They have hands
with suction cups.
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That's what holds themto the ship.
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The last timethat I was abducted,
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I was 13 years old
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and I said,
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"Who are you
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and what do you want from me?"
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It was
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the loudest voice
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I've ever heard.
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And it said, "I'm God."
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[church bell ringing]
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And that was
the last interaction I had.
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I was 31 in 2011
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when I woke up and felt
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a lump behind my ear.
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I thought it was cancer.
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And so I went
to the medical center
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and I spoketo a lab technician.
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After looking at it,
she expressed to me
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that they were going to need
to have it excised,
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that they weren't able
to perform that there.
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She said that it would be
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in the realm
of around 30 days.
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When I got home,I started panicking.
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My heart was
beating out of my chest.
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I had to get whatever this was
out of my body.
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And so I took a safety pin
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and I pulled as hardas I could out of my ear.
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I didn't know what it was.
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I brought it backto the laboratory.
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They didn't know what it was.
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It wasn't taken away
from me for further testing,
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so I kept it.
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It is one thing
to have your body stolen
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and have your body parts
robbed from you,
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and then to havesomething invasively put
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inside your body.
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It was terrible.
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So this all occurred
in childhood
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and early adolescence?
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Yes.
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And what have been
the after effects
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in your experience?
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It left me with a lot of fear.
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It left me
with a lot of... questions.
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And [sighs] I guess
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I want to advocate for,
like, little me
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in a way.
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-[Chrissy] Mm.
-[Rachel clears throat]
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And I want to go back
and, like, save her
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and tell her
everything's going to be okay.
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I just need the explanation
of why. I mean...
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Because I want answers.
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It's hard to live every day
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with just not knowing
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why you were kidnapped.
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[Mitch] We received
your account
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as well
as the physical evidence
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that you supplied.
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Chrissy has examined
the evidence that you sent
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with analysts and researchers,
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and she is going to have
some answers for you.
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[narrator] Along withthe details of her encounter,
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Rachel submitteda small unknown object
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that she removedfrom her ear for analysis,
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which she is concerned may beevidence of an alien implant
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and proof that her memoriesof childhood abductions
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were real.
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What we wanted to ask,
first and foremost, is
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what year was it you said
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that you had your initial
abduction experience?
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It was between 1983 and 1984.
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It was in the summer
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and it was right before
I started kindergarten.
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You know, it's remarkable
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because the Hudson Valley is
widely known
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around the world today
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as a kind of UFO hotspot.
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In the 1980sthrough early 90s,
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about 9,000 reports...
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[man] God, I don't know
what the hell it is.
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[Mitch]
...of UFO encounters emerged
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from the Hudson Valley.
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I was awakened in my cabin
in upstate New York
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by small people
in dark blue uniforms.
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New York State's
Hudson Valley has been
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one of the critical areas
of UFO reportage.
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And the Hudson Valley was,
of course,
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the site of the events
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described
in Whitley Strieber's
seminal bestseller,
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Communion.
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The New York Times says
the story is nonfiction.
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Our Krista Bradford reports.
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That book not only opened
the door
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to the Hudson Valley
experiences,
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but allowed claimed abductees
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to step forwardwith their testimony,
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in many cases,
for the very first time.
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You have brought to the table
physical evidence
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which Chrissy
and her colleagues
have examined,
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and I'm eager to hear
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what you all have found.
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[narrator] Chrissy workswith a team of experts
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to research UFO databases,
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scrub air traffic,
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satellite data,
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and conduct state-of-the-artphoto and data analysis
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before delivering the resultsof her verified report.
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I want you
to take a look at this
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from our evidence report.
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Can you confirm
that's what it was?
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-[Rachel] Yes,
that's what it was.
-[Chrissy] Okay.
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So we received the sample
that you sent to us
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and we sent it off
to the MUFON laboratories
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to have it analyzed.
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[Chrissy] So are you prepared
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for me to talk a little bit
about the analysis
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of what we looked at?
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Yeah, I'm sweating,
I'm shaking.
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We have the results.
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The piece that you gave us...
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[Thor] I was on my wayto visit Yvette on my boat.
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Something caught my eye.
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I don't know what the heck
these things are.
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So we received the sample
that you sent to us,
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and we sent it off
to the MUFON laboratories
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to have it analyzed.
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[Chrissy] So are you prepared
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for me to talk a little bit
about the analysis
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of what we looked at?
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Yeah, I'm-- I'm sweating,
I'm shaking, I cannot wait.
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[Chrissy]
The MUFON labs conducted
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two different tests.
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The first one was
a radiation analysis.
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[narrator]
Radiation analysis tests
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for tracesof radioactive elements
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that have been associatedwith unknown implants.
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So...
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no radiation was present.
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The second analysis we did was
look at the XRF detection
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to see if there was
any metals.
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[narrator] XRF,or X-ray analysis,
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is used to identify
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the material makeupof the object
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and if any metals are present.
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No metals were present.
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Okay.
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The piece that you gave us...
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was actually a plastic crown
from a tooth.
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A crown?
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A crown, yeah. A tooth crown.
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I don't have any crowns.
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Is there any other way
that that might have happened
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or how that appeared?
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I don't-- I have no clue
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where that would
even materialize from.
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We were baffled, too.
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But plastic in my body?
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Plastic crown from a tooth.
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So my job is to do analysis,
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talk to multiple experts,
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and try to find an answer.
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What it says here is that
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this is a plastic crown
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and that it is of this Earth.
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So I have to go by the data.
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[Rachel] I don't understand
327
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the final result.
328
00:14:04,467 --> 00:14:06,367
-Yeah.
-I'm trying to wrap
my head around it.
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You have traveled
a long distance
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to come and speak to us,
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and you are entitled
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to a blunt assessment.
333
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For my outlook,
I take into account
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the data
that Chrissy has analyzed,
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the background and credibility
of the witness,
336
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surrounding circumstances,
337
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corroboration, history,
338
00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:36,367
and I try to weave it
all together in one ball,
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which informs my decision.
340
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The Hudson Valley
is probably--
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ranks just
slightly behind Roswell
342
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in terms
of UFO-reported activity.
343
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The entire abduction narrative
took shape
344
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in the Hudson Valley.
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I think there's no question
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that the phenomena warrants
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the attention
of serious people,
348
00:15:02,567 --> 00:15:06,800
researchers, journalists,
medical authorities,
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trauma specialists.
350
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And I do think
that people who have
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experienced abduction
352
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have been subject to ridicule.
353
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Based on everything
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that I have described
culturally, medically,
355
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historically,
356
00:15:24,634 --> 00:15:28,400
and in terms of listening
to your testimony today,
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I believe in the story
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that you are bringing
to the table.
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And I think
that your experience is
360
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absolutely valid.
361
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At the same time,
362
00:15:39,233 --> 00:15:42,000
this material,
based on our data, is
363
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,500
a piece of mundane,
earthly material.
364
00:15:51,266 --> 00:15:52,734
I didn't expect this.
365
00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,567
I'm upset.
366
00:15:54,567 --> 00:15:56,100
I traveled a really long way.
367
00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,667
I'm disappointed.
368
00:15:57,667 --> 00:16:00,500
And I'm still lookingfor the truth.
369
00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:03,333
It's really stressful for me
370
00:16:03,667 --> 00:16:05,667
to come here,
371
00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:07,767
be as transparent
as I have been,
372
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tell my entire story,
373
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and then have
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a scientific piece of evidence
that I provided
375
00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:18,166
not validate my experience.
376
00:16:18,166 --> 00:16:19,100
That was a tough one.
377
00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:21,100
-That's a very tough one.
-Very tough one.
378
00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:22,333
Knowing that
379
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-it's from this Earth...
-Yep.
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00:16:24,667 --> 00:16:26,367
...I hope that gives her
some closure.
381
00:16:26,367 --> 00:16:28,467
Yeah. And look,
382
00:16:28,467 --> 00:16:30,100
I know what the cynics are
going to say.
383
00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:31,266
"Oh, she sent them a tooth.
384
00:16:31,266 --> 00:16:32,367
-Ha, ha, ha."
-Yeah.
385
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If somebody was trying
to pull over a fast one on us,
386
00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:37,767
they would work a lot harder
than sending a dental implant,
387
00:16:37,767 --> 00:16:40,000
which is easy
to identify in a lab
388
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,567
and which has been identified.
389
00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:44,100
-Yeah.
-But I think there's more
to it than just that.
390
00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,000
You know,
I wish I had more data.
391
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000
I don't know how
or why this wound up
392
00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:51,834
inside of me.
393
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,200
And I'm more afraid than ever.
394
00:17:03,667 --> 00:17:06,367
I think we're still waiting
for that evidence
395
00:17:06,367 --> 00:17:09,300
that really moves
the needle to 11.
396
00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,567
Yeah, that one piece
of evidence.
397
00:17:11,567 --> 00:17:13,200
Yeah. So I'm psyched.
398
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,567
[Chrissy] Yeah, seriously.
399
00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:15,433
[Mitch] All right.
400
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:17,567
-[Chrissy] Hey.
-[Mitch] How's it going?
401
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[Chrissy] Good. How are you?
402
00:17:18,767 --> 00:17:20,967
Welcome. It's great
to have you all here.
403
00:17:20,967 --> 00:17:22,100
It's cool to be in Roswell.
404
00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:23,100
-Yep.
-[Mitch] Yeah, right?
405
00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:24,266
Never been here.
406
00:17:24,266 --> 00:17:27,400
We have received your story,
407
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,567
your accounts,
408
00:17:28,567 --> 00:17:31,100
as well as the evidence
and data.
409
00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:33,000
But first and foremost,
410
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,433
we want to hear the story
of your key account.
411
00:17:38,767 --> 00:17:40,800
My name is Thor Laizans.
412
00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,166
I'm from San Clemente,
California.
413
00:17:43,166 --> 00:17:44,467
My name is Yvette Marquez,
414
00:17:44,467 --> 00:17:47,000
and I'm from Catalina, Avalon.
415
00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:51,266
[Thor] I've spentmy entire life out on the sea.
416
00:17:51,266 --> 00:17:52,800
Pacific Ocean is my backyard,
417
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,667
so between diving
and boating, fishing,
418
00:17:55,667 --> 00:17:56,567
I started getting twitchy
419
00:17:56,567 --> 00:17:58,400
if I'm away from the ocean
for too long.
420
00:18:00,567 --> 00:18:04,600
September 13th in 2021,
421
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,133
I was on my way to visitCatalina Island on my boat,
422
00:18:09,066 --> 00:18:11,400
and I made it
about halfway there,
423
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,100
about 15 miles out.
424
00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:14,400
Something caught my eye.
425
00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:18,500
I don't know
what's going on here.
426
00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,433
I don't know what the heck
these things are.
427
00:18:23,467 --> 00:18:24,867
They were like orbs.
428
00:18:24,867 --> 00:18:25,734
It started with three,
429
00:18:25,734 --> 00:18:28,567
and then all of a sudden,
there's two,
430
00:18:28,567 --> 00:18:30,000
and then it'd go down to one,
431
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,600
and they would kind of merge
in and out of each other.
432
00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,967
When I first caught notice
of them,
433
00:18:34,967 --> 00:18:37,367
they were about three
to five miles away from me,
434
00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:38,700
and they were probably
435
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:42,467
the elevation of, like,
a low-flying airplane
436
00:18:42,467 --> 00:18:43,900
when they first appeared.
437
00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:46,867
They looked like
little miniature galaxies
438
00:18:46,867 --> 00:18:48,967
that would fade in and out.
439
00:18:48,967 --> 00:18:52,600
They'd change colorsfrom orange to black.
440
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,066
Black was the weird one.
441
00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:56,166
It had like a negative light.
442
00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,600
You could still see it.
443
00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,066
And it wasn't glowing.
444
00:19:00,066 --> 00:19:03,133
But I don't know
how to really explain it.
445
00:19:05,266 --> 00:19:06,300
I was living on my sailboat.
446
00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:09,233
I was anchored right outside
of Catalina Island.
447
00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:11,667
I always keptmy eye out for him
448
00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:13,867
when I knewthat he was coming over.
449
00:19:13,867 --> 00:19:16,200
I saw
what I thought were flares,
450
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,100
except they didn't have
the pattern of flares.
451
00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:20,967
So I called the Harbor Patrol.
452
00:19:20,967 --> 00:19:22,967
I told them
that Thor was coming over,
453
00:19:22,967 --> 00:19:24,667
and I didn't know
if those were flares.
454
00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,800
Maybe he was in trouble.
455
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,567
Harbor Patrol was like,"Well, nobody's calling in."
456
00:19:28,567 --> 00:19:30,600
And they came and parked
next to my boat.
457
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,967
In fact, one
of the Harbor Patrol guys came
458
00:19:32,967 --> 00:19:34,166
with his binoculars.
459
00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,667
He's looking and said,
460
00:19:35,667 --> 00:19:37,066
"No, we don't know
what that is.
461
00:19:37,066 --> 00:19:38,367
Those aren't flares."
462
00:19:38,367 --> 00:19:40,000
By then, it caught,
like, a little crowd.
463
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,700
And there wasother boaters looking.
464
00:19:42,066 --> 00:19:43,133
So I called him.
465
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,867
And I was like,
466
00:19:44,867 --> 00:19:46,567
"Hey, do you see
those lights out there?
467
00:19:46,567 --> 00:19:47,767
How far away are you?"
468
00:19:47,767 --> 00:19:49,667
He's like, "Oh, my God.
469
00:19:49,667 --> 00:19:50,867
There's these balls of light.
470
00:19:50,867 --> 00:19:52,033
I'm filming them right now."
471
00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:55,233
[Thor speaking]
472
00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:57,166
[Thor] I went inside my boat.
473
00:19:57,166 --> 00:19:58,567
I got a laser pointer out,
474
00:19:58,567 --> 00:20:01,266
and I started shootinglasers out at them.
475
00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:03,567
As I'm narratingthrough the video,
476
00:20:03,567 --> 00:20:04,767
they were interacting.
477
00:20:04,767 --> 00:20:05,767
They could hear me,
478
00:20:05,767 --> 00:20:09,433
and they like, kind
of responded to my voice.
479
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,133
Kinda trippy though.
480
00:20:11,133 --> 00:20:13,333
Where'd the third one go?
There was three.
481
00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:15,667
I'm like, "Yeah,there was three of them,
482
00:20:15,667 --> 00:20:16,767
but now there's two of them."
483
00:20:16,767 --> 00:20:18,867
I'm like, "Where'dthe third one go?"
484
00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:19,800
And then all of a sudden,
485
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,533
bink, there's the third oneright there.
486
00:20:21,967 --> 00:20:23,233
Okay, there's the third.
487
00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:25,000
Oh, wow. [chuckles]
488
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,900
They came back.
489
00:20:27,867 --> 00:20:29,667
They dropped down
right above the ocean,
490
00:20:29,667 --> 00:20:31,266
started coming straight at me,
491
00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:33,367
which kind of freaked me out
a little bit.
492
00:20:33,367 --> 00:20:34,767
It's kind of unnerving
493
00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:36,800
to have
these weird glowing orbs,
494
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,000
like, coming straight at me.
495
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,567
They seem to be
coming this direction.
496
00:20:41,567 --> 00:20:43,000
The first thing I see are
497
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,166
these two sets of trackswalking beside each other
498
00:20:46,166 --> 00:20:48,800
and the tracks just stopped.
499
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,333
Almost kind of like they got
beamed up or something.
500
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,367
We looked at video analysis
501
00:20:54,367 --> 00:20:57,400
and to see if it was faked
or altered in any way and...
502
00:20:58,567 --> 00:21:00,333
we have the results.
503
00:21:04,567 --> 00:21:07,200
[Thor] I don't know what
the heck these things are.
504
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,767
I might have caught
their attention.
505
00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:11,600
They seem to be
coming this direction.
506
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,667
They're actually getting
really, really close here.
507
00:21:14,667 --> 00:21:15,767
Freaked me out a little bit.
508
00:21:15,767 --> 00:21:17,300
It was kind of unnerving
509
00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:19,266
to have
these weird glowing orbs,
510
00:21:19,266 --> 00:21:21,000
like, coming straight at me.
511
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,800
And then at one point,
they disappeared.
512
00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:27,200
They are right above
the water now.
513
00:21:28,467 --> 00:21:29,600
It's gone.
514
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,333
I do not see
515
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,200
anything anymore.
516
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
I know there are
things out there
517
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,767
that I believe are notfrom this world.
518
00:21:39,767 --> 00:21:41,367
There's something else
out there,
519
00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:42,867
and knowing that,
520
00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:45,266
uh, it's kind of scary.
521
00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:47,000
[Thor] I don't know
what the heck
522
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,233
these things are.
523
00:21:50,066 --> 00:21:51,300
That's an amazing story.
524
00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:53,266
-Yep.
-Yeah.
525
00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:54,700
So what can we do for you?
526
00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:57,033
What are you hoping
to get out of...
527
00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:59,667
this discussion today?
528
00:21:59,667 --> 00:22:01,867
I would totally love
a confirmation
529
00:22:01,867 --> 00:22:05,066
that someone could look
at my video and analyze it.
530
00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:07,767
Yeah, if someone could say,
"Yeah, that's not a flare."
531
00:22:07,767 --> 00:22:10,200
That's not SpaceX launch."
532
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,700
And what do you think of that?
533
00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:13,266
[Yvette] Uh, to me,
534
00:22:13,266 --> 00:22:15,500
it's just very unnerving
535
00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:18,166
not knowing what it is.
536
00:22:18,166 --> 00:22:19,967
I would like
to know what it is.
537
00:22:19,967 --> 00:22:21,700
But in a way, it's kind of...
538
00:22:22,667 --> 00:22:24,934
finding out, like,
the boogeyman is real.
539
00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:29,867
We have received your story,
540
00:22:29,867 --> 00:22:32,734
your accounts,
as well as the video.
541
00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:35,700
[narrator] Thorand Yvette submitted
542
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:38,367
a nine-minute videoof his encounter at sea,
543
00:22:38,367 --> 00:22:40,934
hoping to get an answerabout what they witnessed.
544
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:44,867
The clip shows what seemto be three orange lights
545
00:22:44,867 --> 00:22:48,300
that disappear, reappear,and merge with each other.
546
00:22:52,467 --> 00:22:53,900
Okay, let's take
a look at this.
547
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:55,800
Can you tell me where you are?
548
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,166
[Yvette] When it happened,
Avalon is right there.
549
00:22:58,166 --> 00:22:59,233
[Chrissy] Yeah.
550
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,800
[Thor] You got mainland,
551
00:23:01,767 --> 00:23:03,133
and you have Catalina Island
552
00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:06,800
-that sits about 35 miles out
from my home harbor.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
553
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,634
And I was somewhere
right in between those points.
554
00:23:11,467 --> 00:23:12,800
[narrator]
Catalina Island sits
555
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,000
47 miles off the coastof Southern California.
556
00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:18,266
Thor was travelingfrom the harbor
557
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:21,266
in Dana Point Westtowards Catalina
558
00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:24,367
and was about halfor 23 miles from home port
559
00:23:24,367 --> 00:23:26,200
when he encounteredthe lights.
560
00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:28,867
What's the direction
you were looking?
561
00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:32,066
I was actually looking
towards the power plant
562
00:23:32,066 --> 00:23:35,367
and the military base,
which was right behind me.
563
00:23:35,367 --> 00:23:37,100
And so where was
your direction?
564
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:38,100
What were you facing?
565
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:41,266
I was just outside
of Avalon Harbor, anchored,
566
00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:43,667
and looking straight out
towards Dana Point.
567
00:23:43,667 --> 00:23:46,166
So you know that Catalina is
568
00:23:46,166 --> 00:23:49,567
-very rich in UFO history.
-[Yvette] Mm-hmm.
569
00:23:49,567 --> 00:23:52,667
Have you heard
of the Tic Tac incident?
570
00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:56,066
-[Thor] I have heard
the word "Tic Tac" before.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
571
00:23:56,066 --> 00:23:59,133
I can't say I know
of the incident, though.
572
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,500
[narrator] In 2017,
573
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,500
the New York Times posteda thermal imaging video
574
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,400
of a tic-tac-shaped object
575
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,967
filmed by a Navy fighter pilot
576
00:24:07,967 --> 00:24:11,200
off the coastof Catalina Island in 2004.
577
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,500
The video shed light
578
00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:16,066
on the top-secret
Pentagon program called AATIP,
579
00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:19,166
the Advanced Aerial
Threat Identification Program,
580
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,667
which is tasked with tracking
581
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:23,200
and analyzingpotential UFO activity
582
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,667
for the U.S. military.
583
00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:26,667
-Where you were was...
-[Yvette] Mm-hmm.
584
00:24:26,667 --> 00:24:27,500
[Chrissy] ...very close
585
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:29,500
where the Tic Tac incident
happened.
586
00:24:31,867 --> 00:24:32,900
So the first thing
we did was check
587
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:35,000
the Marine Casualty Database
588
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,700
to see if anybody had
an emergency
589
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:39,100
or they had to shoot off
an emergency flare.
590
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,467
[narrator] The MarineCasualty Database logs
591
00:24:42,467 --> 00:24:46,100
all open water emergenciesin the Pacific Ocean.
592
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:47,900
According to their recordsthat night,
593
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:50,667
there were no reportsof trouble.
594
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:53,900
Chrissy's team also contactedCamp Pendleton Marine Base,
595
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:57,066
located 28 miles southof Dana Harbor.
596
00:24:57,066 --> 00:24:59,700
But they reportedno nighttime military drills
597
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:00,800
that evening.
598
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,300
There was...
599
00:25:03,266 --> 00:25:04,567
no...
600
00:25:04,567 --> 00:25:05,767
supporting evidence
601
00:25:05,767 --> 00:25:07,233
of parachute flares
602
00:25:07,233 --> 00:25:09,934
-or any military activity
during those times.
-[Thor and Yvette] Mm-hmm.
603
00:25:11,467 --> 00:25:13,600
So then we had
to look at satellite data.
604
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,266
We know
that there's multiple launches
605
00:25:15,266 --> 00:25:16,800
that happened in that area.
606
00:25:17,467 --> 00:25:19,600
[narrator]
Vandenberg Air Base is located
607
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,500
only 155 miles from Catalina
608
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,066
and routinely launchessatellites into orbit.
609
00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:26,500
On September 13th,
610
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:29,700
the airbase launcheda SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket
611
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:32,700
containing51 Starlink satellites.
612
00:25:33,767 --> 00:25:37,600
I did witness that launch
from Vandenberg that evening.
613
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,266
It wasn't until 30 minutes,
half an hour afterwards,
614
00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:44,734
that I started seeing
these strange lights.
615
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,200
-You're right.
It was 25 minutes.
-[Thor] Mmm.
616
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,767
Okay.
617
00:25:50,767 --> 00:25:54,100
[narrator] The SpaceX launchoccurred at 8:55 p.m.,
618
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,834
25 minutesbefore Thor's encounter.
619
00:25:57,767 --> 00:26:00,166
Based on the trajectoryof the rocket and the time,
620
00:26:00,166 --> 00:26:01,600
analysts have concluded
621
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,567
that Thor's sighting could
622
00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:04,900
not have been the launchfrom the airbase.
623
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,166
[Chrissy] So...
624
00:26:06,166 --> 00:26:08,100
we don't know what it is.
625
00:26:09,967 --> 00:26:11,266
I personally think this is
626
00:26:11,266 --> 00:26:14,066
one of the most
compelling cases
627
00:26:14,066 --> 00:26:15,800
that we've seen.
628
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,867
You got a nine-minute video,
629
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:19,967
and you had
630
00:26:19,967 --> 00:26:23,467
more than
a dozen witnesses overall.
631
00:26:23,467 --> 00:26:25,000
And based on everything
632
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,266
that you've brought
to the table,
633
00:26:27,266 --> 00:26:30,000
I feel absolutely confident
in saying...
634
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:33,800
you witnessed a UFO.
635
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,066
-Awesome.
-[Chrissy chuckling] Yeah.
636
00:26:39,066 --> 00:26:40,367
That's amazing.
637
00:26:40,367 --> 00:26:42,467
It's good.
It's good confirmation.
638
00:26:42,467 --> 00:26:43,734
-[Yvette chuckles]
-They're out there.
639
00:26:44,767 --> 00:26:45,867
Finally,
after all these years,
640
00:26:45,867 --> 00:26:47,667
got, like, my video on them.
641
00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:49,467
That was like a present to me.
642
00:26:49,467 --> 00:26:51,467
I mean, I've seen them
for years and years.
643
00:26:51,467 --> 00:26:52,800
I'm very happy.
644
00:26:54,567 --> 00:26:57,667
I like that mystery
that hangs up over everything
645
00:26:57,667 --> 00:26:58,800
around that island
646
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,800
and its historyand the people there.
647
00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:04,200
I think this is one
of the remarkable sightings
648
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,500
of our immediate era.
649
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:06,767
100%, yeah.
650
00:27:06,767 --> 00:27:07,867
I think it's one
of the best ones
651
00:27:07,867 --> 00:27:09,567
-we have so far, too.
-Right on.
652
00:27:09,567 --> 00:27:11,767
It was cool
to get that confirmation
653
00:27:11,767 --> 00:27:15,166
from people that, like, know
what they're talking about,
654
00:27:15,166 --> 00:27:16,367
they know
what they're dealing with,
655
00:27:16,367 --> 00:27:17,800
and just say,
656
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,934
"Hey, we don't know
what the heck that is."
657
00:27:21,567 --> 00:27:23,634
I really couldn't
believe what I found.
658
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,667
These two sets of tracks
659
00:27:25,667 --> 00:27:28,100
with three big toes,
660
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,100
and they were
very creepy looking.
661
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,000
[dramatic music playing]
662
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,400
[eerie music playing]
663
00:27:41,767 --> 00:27:43,400
[indistinct chatter]
664
00:27:46,367 --> 00:27:48,100
[Mitch] I find bars
665
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:51,667
to be a playing field
of the whole human situation.
666
00:27:51,667 --> 00:27:53,467
And they reveal things.
They tell you things.
667
00:27:53,467 --> 00:27:54,934
Sometimes more than you might
want to know.
668
00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:58,100
Oh, right.
669
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,066
-There it is.
-Okay, now we're in business.
670
00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:01,700
-How are you doing?
-I'm Mitch,
how you doing, man?
671
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:02,700
-Pretty good.
-Hi, I'm Sondra.
672
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:03,767
-Sondra, Mitch. Hi.
-Hi, Sondra.
673
00:28:03,767 --> 00:28:05,133
-Chrissy, nice to meet you.
-Hello.
674
00:28:05,133 --> 00:28:06,600
-[Mitch] I want to just
weigh it a little.
-[Sondra] Yeah, go for it.
675
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,100
-Yeah, yeah.
-[Mitch] Okay, first of all,
thanks for coming in.
676
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,500
Very eager to speak to y'all.
677
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,800
Oh, yeah, no problem.
Thanks for having us.
678
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,300
[Mitch] Now, Chad,
679
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:16,266
you're interested in--
680
00:28:16,266 --> 00:28:18,800
I mean, I'm into all facets
of the paranormal.
681
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,200
-Wow.
-[Chad] Oh, yeah.
682
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,900
We could have us
some good camping trips.
683
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,266
-[Chad] Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we could.
-Yeah. [chuckles] Yeah, yeah.
684
00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:26,000
I could take you
to some pretty crazy places.
685
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,800
-[Mitch] Really?
-Oh, yeah.
686
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,166
[Mitch] I may
take you up on that.
687
00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:29,200
-[Chad] Mmm.
-So let me tell you
688
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,567
what we're going to try
to accomplish here today.
689
00:28:31,567 --> 00:28:36,266
Uh, we have your testimony
and the background story
690
00:28:36,266 --> 00:28:39,300
of how you came
to take this impression.
691
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:41,266
-[Chad] Okay.
-And Chrissy has
692
00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:45,100
looked over this cast
with researchers,
693
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:49,767
and she is going to deliver
their findings to you.
694
00:28:49,767 --> 00:28:53,767
I wanted to ask you
to please tell us the story
695
00:28:53,767 --> 00:28:57,166
of your experience
in your own terms.
696
00:28:57,166 --> 00:28:58,800
Where was it? When was it?
697
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,500
What were the circumstances
698
00:29:01,266 --> 00:29:03,834
that led you to get
this very unusual track?
699
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,300
So...
700
00:29:09,467 --> 00:29:11,467
My name is Chadwick Gales.
701
00:29:11,467 --> 00:29:13,667
[Sondra] My name isSondra Gales.
702
00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:15,667
We've been married
for about eight years now,
703
00:29:15,667 --> 00:29:18,400
and we believe we have
found alien footprints.
704
00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:20,800
[eerie music playing]
705
00:29:22,367 --> 00:29:25,200
The first experience
I ever had with a UFO
706
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,667
or anything paranormal
707
00:29:26,667 --> 00:29:29,900
happened about 30 years ago,
when I was 16.
708
00:29:31,467 --> 00:29:33,600
I was hanging out
with a couple of my buddies
709
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,767
at this place
called Betty Knox
710
00:29:35,767 --> 00:29:37,467
in the Chestnut Ridge.
711
00:29:37,467 --> 00:29:40,467
It's a popular
fly fishing spot in our area,
712
00:29:40,467 --> 00:29:43,266
just a long dirt road
beside the creek.
713
00:29:43,266 --> 00:29:44,867
So me and a couple
of my buddies were
714
00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:46,533
back there
hanging out, just...
715
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,133
talking.
716
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:50,900
Just happened to look up
and notice this...
717
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,900
bluish white orb
718
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:56,233
just floatingacross the treetops.
719
00:29:56,667 --> 00:29:58,166
It's not making a sound.
720
00:29:58,166 --> 00:29:59,166
[eerie music playing]
721
00:29:59,166 --> 00:30:00,667
And we were like,
"What is that?
722
00:30:00,667 --> 00:30:02,100
What is that thing?"
723
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,000
We couldn't believe
what we were seeing, you know?
724
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,100
It was unreal.
725
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,600
And this thing justfloated right across,
726
00:30:09,166 --> 00:30:10,634
floated over the trees,
727
00:30:11,367 --> 00:30:12,734
and then out of sight.
728
00:30:13,867 --> 00:30:15,634
And then it got really quiet.
729
00:30:15,867 --> 00:30:16,900
[music stops]
730
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,066
We sat there for a second,
731
00:30:19,066 --> 00:30:20,567
and we just heard this sound.
732
00:30:20,567 --> 00:30:23,200
It sounded like 20
or 30 people running down
733
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,200
through the woods
towards my buddy's truck.
734
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,033
[footsteps]
735
00:30:31,266 --> 00:30:33,467
And I mean,
this really scared us.
736
00:30:33,467 --> 00:30:35,700
So we jumped in
and we took off.
737
00:30:36,567 --> 00:30:38,600
[engine revving]
738
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,667
[Chad] So ever sincethat night,
739
00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:41,567
I kind of do feel like
740
00:30:41,567 --> 00:30:43,600
I'm drawn to Betty Knoxa little bit.
741
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,367
There's something
very intriguing
742
00:30:45,367 --> 00:30:46,100
about that place.
743
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,734
It just compels me
to go there.
744
00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:54,700
So on March 26th, 2021,
745
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:58,000
it was a Friday
and I had the day off work.
746
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600
So I figured I might as wellgo for a hike.
747
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,700
Of course, back to Betty Knox.
748
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:07,667
I'd say it was around noon
when I got there
749
00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:09,734
and just looked aroundfor a while and...
750
00:31:10,266 --> 00:31:11,300
kept hearing...
751
00:31:11,867 --> 00:31:13,300
It was really weird.
752
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,266
It sounded like
an electronic whistle.
753
00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:20,867
It was kind of like
[whistles softly]
754
00:31:20,867 --> 00:31:24,500
Like a whistlewith a buzz of electricity.
755
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,600
I just happened to look over
756
00:31:27,266 --> 00:31:29,000
and I see this sandbar.
757
00:31:31,767 --> 00:31:35,000
I really couldn't believe
what I found. I mean...
758
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,767
I walk overand the first thing I see are
759
00:31:37,767 --> 00:31:41,000
these two sets of trackscoming up out of the water,
760
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,266
like these two things walk
beside each other,
761
00:31:43,266 --> 00:31:45,700
up out of the creek
and up the bank.
762
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,767
And then they justwalk everywhere, all around,
763
00:31:47,767 --> 00:31:50,033
kind of like they werelooking for something.
764
00:31:51,767 --> 00:31:54,400
The tracks were 14 inches long
765
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,166
by about six inches wide
766
00:31:56,166 --> 00:31:59,166
with three big toes.
767
00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:01,400
And they were
very creepy looking.
768
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,133
Very creepy looking.
769
00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:08,100
They really looked reptilian
to me.
770
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:09,667
And I'm
a pretty decent tracker,
771
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:11,567
so I tried to find a track
772
00:32:11,567 --> 00:32:14,200
to see if they, like,left up the road,
773
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600
went over into the woods,
774
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,300
and I couldn't find
where they left
775
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,900
because the tracks
just stopped.
776
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,300
I don't know, it's like--
777
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,500
almost kind of like they got
beamed up or something.
778
00:32:26,867 --> 00:32:27,767
I was like,
779
00:32:27,767 --> 00:32:29,266
I didn't want to leave them
780
00:32:29,266 --> 00:32:30,667
because I was afraidsomeone would
781
00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:33,367
come and destroy
all the evidence I found.
782
00:32:33,367 --> 00:32:35,266
And I mean,
this was an incredible find.
783
00:32:35,266 --> 00:32:37,800
You don't find stuff like this
very often.
784
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000
So I thought to myself,
"I need to cast these."
785
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:41,767
So the first thing I did,
786
00:32:41,767 --> 00:32:43,667
I started blowing up
Sondra's phone.
787
00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:45,867
She was still at work.
788
00:32:45,867 --> 00:32:48,367
I was just like, "You're not
gonna believe what I found."
789
00:32:48,367 --> 00:32:50,767
I'm sending her
pictures and...
790
00:32:50,767 --> 00:32:51,800
said, "When I get off work,
791
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,934
I'm coming
straight there, so."
792
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:57,667
Well, the first thing
I saw was
793
00:32:57,667 --> 00:32:59,367
there was three toe tracks
794
00:32:59,367 --> 00:33:00,800
-all over this beach.
-[camera shutter clicks]
795
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,700
[Sondra] I was like,"Wow, this is different."
796
00:33:04,867 --> 00:33:06,266
And like Chad said,
797
00:33:06,266 --> 00:33:08,700
they didn't have
any rhyme or reason
798
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,500
what they were doing
on that beach.
799
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,600
They were just randomly,
like, all over the place.
800
00:33:15,066 --> 00:33:17,367
[Chad] We startedto pour some casts,
801
00:33:17,367 --> 00:33:19,266
and we're letting them settle.
802
00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:21,000
And I figured
I'd mix up another batch
803
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,867
and do a couple more casts.
804
00:33:22,867 --> 00:33:26,166
So I start mixing it up,
and I hear a car door slam.
805
00:33:26,166 --> 00:33:27,166
[car door slams]
806
00:33:27,166 --> 00:33:28,867
Like, I look up.
807
00:33:28,867 --> 00:33:31,333
Of course, here comes
the game warden.
808
00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:36,000
It's weird, it's like
the guy knew we were there,
809
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,233
pulled right in.
810
00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:39,667
He comes walking over,
811
00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:42,066
looking around,
and he starts...
812
00:33:42,066 --> 00:33:44,500
kicking his feet around,
rubbing out the tracks.
813
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,200
I was like,"What are you doing?"
814
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,367
I stop-- I screamed "Stop."
I screamed loud.
815
00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:51,367
Dude, this guy stopped
and looked at me
816
00:33:51,367 --> 00:33:52,967
like he wanted to choke me.
817
00:33:52,967 --> 00:33:53,967
Like, "What are you doing?
818
00:33:53,967 --> 00:33:55,000
I'm trying to cast these,
819
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,166
and you're kicking them
all around
820
00:33:56,166 --> 00:33:57,667
trying to cover them up."
821
00:33:57,667 --> 00:33:59,667
And he's just standing there
staring at me, like,
822
00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:01,000
giving me the death eye.
823
00:34:02,166 --> 00:34:04,634
He just keeps staring at me
for a minute.
824
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,967
[Sondra] He gotinto his vehicle and he left.
825
00:34:07,967 --> 00:34:09,767
[Chad] Yeah.
826
00:34:09,767 --> 00:34:12,634
We waited for the cast
to settle. We...
827
00:34:13,266 --> 00:34:14,400
pulled all the casts out.
828
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,467
We got six altogether
829
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:18,700
-that were decent.-We had to get something.
830
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:22,100
We wanted these
and just wanted evidence.
831
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,467
[Chad] Fromall the anomalous things
832
00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:25,367
we've been seeing in the sky,
833
00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:27,133
finding these tracks,
834
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,000
I'm starting to think
835
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,667
there might be an alien base
836
00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:32,600
somewhere deep
in the Chestnut Ridge.
837
00:34:33,266 --> 00:34:35,266
After a further analysis
838
00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:37,266
by Dr. Jeff Meldrum,
839
00:34:37,266 --> 00:34:40,233
the final conclusion is...
840
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,467
1947 was the opening year
of the modern UFO era,
841
00:34:46,467 --> 00:34:49,000
and it was marked
by three events.
842
00:34:49,367 --> 00:34:50,233
Saucer sightings
843
00:34:50,233 --> 00:34:52,300
by commercial pilotKenneth Arnold
844
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,100
in Washington State,
845
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,567
the spotting
of six flying disks
846
00:34:56,567 --> 00:35:00,300
and submersible disksat Catalina Island
847
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:02,667
off the coastof Southern California,
848
00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:05,166
and Roswell, New Mexico,
849
00:35:05,166 --> 00:35:10,500
home of the famous
1947 UFO crash site.
850
00:35:11,467 --> 00:35:12,867
[newsreader]
The disk landed at a ranch
851
00:35:12,867 --> 00:35:14,333
in Corona, New Mexico.
852
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,767
And in the ensuing days,
853
00:35:16,767 --> 00:35:20,667
the military
and the government
supposedly covered up
854
00:35:20,667 --> 00:35:26,166
the evidence of this reputed
extraterrestrial crash.
855
00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:27,533
[dramatic music playing]
856
00:35:33,467 --> 00:35:35,300
[Chad] Finding these tracks,
857
00:35:36,166 --> 00:35:37,800
I'm starting to think
there might be
858
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,100
an alien base somewhere deep
in the Chestnut Ridge.
859
00:35:43,367 --> 00:35:45,667
We came here today to find out
860
00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:48,467
if the experts know
what these tracks are,
861
00:35:48,467 --> 00:35:50,900
what made these tracks,
where they come from,
862
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:53,367
and possibly...
863
00:35:53,367 --> 00:35:54,767
if they could tell us anything
864
00:35:54,767 --> 00:35:57,200
about what they might
want there.
865
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,333
[Mitch] Yeah, I'd have
the same questions
866
00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:02,300
if I found tracks
that look like that.
867
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:03,567
-[Chad] Right.
-[Mitch] And...
868
00:36:03,567 --> 00:36:06,066
I'm fascinated
with all this material.
869
00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:08,500
[narrator] Chadwickand Sondra Galesubmitted a cast
870
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,500
as well as photos
871
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:10,800
of tracks they discovered
872
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400
in Chestnut Ridge,Pennsylvania.
873
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,066
Their evidence was analyzed
874
00:36:15,066 --> 00:36:18,467
using archaeological researchand historical data
875
00:36:18,467 --> 00:36:20,467
to determine what sortof creature might have
876
00:36:20,467 --> 00:36:21,600
created them.
877
00:36:22,266 --> 00:36:25,467
Chrissy has
looked over this cast
878
00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:28,066
and I'm eager
to turn it over to her
879
00:36:28,066 --> 00:36:30,133
and hear what was found.
880
00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:32,166
So I should start off saying
881
00:36:32,166 --> 00:36:33,700
I'm a journalist
in this space,
882
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:35,367
so my job is to work
883
00:36:35,367 --> 00:36:38,266
and to talk
with multiple experts.
884
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:40,066
So one of the first things
we do is
885
00:36:40,066 --> 00:36:42,367
cross-reference our time,
date, and location
886
00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:43,567
with multiple databases.
887
00:36:43,567 --> 00:36:47,400
We look at cryptid databases
and we look at UFO databases.
888
00:36:48,867 --> 00:36:51,867
[narrator] While UFO databasescontain research and data
889
00:36:51,867 --> 00:36:55,100
and accounts pertainingto potential UFO sightings,
890
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:58,367
cryptid databases dealwith cryptozoology
891
00:36:58,367 --> 00:37:01,934
or the study of unknown,legendary, or extinct animals.
892
00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:05,967
So we did find
893
00:37:05,967 --> 00:37:09,000
on March 26, 2021,
894
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,900
approximately200 miles southwestof that area,
895
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,000
there was a reportof a long, bright object
896
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,500
with no wings
897
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:19,500
that moved across the sky.
898
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:21,166
-Fantastic.
-Yeah.
899
00:37:21,166 --> 00:37:23,934
[Chrissy] On the same day,
in the same location,
900
00:37:25,166 --> 00:37:26,767
the witness observed
a luminous object
901
00:37:26,767 --> 00:37:29,000
-in the treetops.
-Oh, wow.
902
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,400
It moved down,
and then it slowly vanished.
903
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,367
-Wow.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
904
00:37:33,367 --> 00:37:34,300
Then it says here
905
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,867
that unusual sounds were
heard then as well.
906
00:37:36,867 --> 00:37:39,367
-That's like you were
hearing sounds.
-Wow. Yeah.
907
00:37:39,367 --> 00:37:40,500
Can you do it again?
908
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,467
[whistles]
909
00:37:44,467 --> 00:37:46,000
[Chrissy] Amazing.
910
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,100
And that was
in the Newcastle area.
911
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,000
-Do you know where that is?
-[Sondra] Yeah, that's north.
912
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,867
-[Chad] Yeah.
It's north of us, yeah.
-How far is that?
913
00:37:51,867 --> 00:37:55,266
-45 minutes...
well, 50 miles.
-Yeah.
914
00:37:55,266 --> 00:37:56,700
-That's fascinating.
-[Chrissy] Mm-hmm.
915
00:37:57,667 --> 00:38:00,967
We also sent it off
to have it analyzed.
916
00:38:00,967 --> 00:38:03,800
The expert that did
the analysis on this footprint
917
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,467
is Dr. Jeff Meldrum.
918
00:38:05,467 --> 00:38:08,367
He's a Professor of anatomyand anthropology
919
00:38:08,367 --> 00:38:10,133
at Idaho State University.
920
00:38:11,266 --> 00:38:14,300
He thinks it resembles
a prehistoric biped,
921
00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:17,567
which walks on its toes.
922
00:38:17,567 --> 00:38:19,700
It has a metatarsal pad.
923
00:38:20,467 --> 00:38:21,600
That's great.
924
00:38:24,767 --> 00:38:27,400
So the final conclusion
925
00:38:29,266 --> 00:38:31,200
that Dr. Meldrum said,
926
00:38:34,767 --> 00:38:36,100
it's an emu.
927
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,467
-Really?
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
928
00:38:38,467 --> 00:38:40,200
-Oh.
-Oh, wow.
929
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,300
[Chrissy] Right.
930
00:38:42,767 --> 00:38:44,100
Within our research,
931
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:47,767
-we found out the Emu farm was11 miles north.
-[Sondra] Ah.
932
00:38:47,767 --> 00:38:50,100
[Sondra] But did any get looseduring that time?
933
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,667
-They're caged in
to the property.
-Right.
934
00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:54,900
-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-So how could
two of them get out
935
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:56,667
-and travel that far?
-[Chrissy] So...
936
00:38:56,667 --> 00:38:59,000
We do know that it's located
in the region.
937
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,233
I go by the research
938
00:39:02,567 --> 00:39:03,934
and the analysis.
939
00:39:05,367 --> 00:39:08,266
So I have to say this is
not an alien footprint,
940
00:39:08,266 --> 00:39:09,834
but an Emu footprint.
941
00:39:12,567 --> 00:39:14,100
I know that you guys bring
942
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,767
tremendous credibility
to the table.
943
00:39:16,767 --> 00:39:18,066
You took the tracks.
944
00:39:18,066 --> 00:39:19,767
You consulted
with the game warden.
945
00:39:19,767 --> 00:39:20,800
And over and above all,
946
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200
I want to emphasize
that you behaved
947
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,500
with impeccable
responsibility.
948
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:27,166
I think you guys should
write a handbook
949
00:39:27,166 --> 00:39:28,467
about field research.
950
00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:29,300
-Yeah, thank you.
-[Chrissy] That's awesome.
951
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,166
My hat is off to you.
I'm with you.
952
00:39:31,166 --> 00:39:33,266
I wish it was
a mysterious beast.
953
00:39:33,266 --> 00:39:35,233
The data is definitive.
954
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,433
This is not
an alien footprint.
955
00:39:39,667 --> 00:39:42,000
It's an escaped emu footprint.
956
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,467
What you've done goes
a long way
957
00:39:45,467 --> 00:39:47,967
towards helping
people understand
958
00:39:47,967 --> 00:39:50,166
some of this strange
phenomena.
959
00:39:50,166 --> 00:39:51,667
-So thank you so much.
-Yeah.
960
00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:52,700
-[Mitch] A real pleasure.
-[Chrissy] Thank you.
961
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,567
If you found
something like this
962
00:39:54,567 --> 00:39:56,100
in the Dunbar Mountains,
963
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:58,567
would you really think
it was an emu?
964
00:39:58,567 --> 00:39:59,667
[Sondra] I just thoughtit was a little strange
965
00:39:59,667 --> 00:40:01,767
that we could see themcoming up out of the water.
966
00:40:01,767 --> 00:40:03,066
But where'dthey go from there?
967
00:40:03,066 --> 00:40:04,700
They walked around in circles.
968
00:40:05,066 --> 00:40:06,100
And we don't know
969
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,734
where the tracks went
from there.
970
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,300
They don't fly.
971
00:40:09,867 --> 00:40:11,800
So where'd they go?
972
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,767
I'm still going to go out
and look for these things
973
00:40:13,767 --> 00:40:16,934
because I'm not quite sure
that it was an emu.
974
00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:19,667
Well, it was kind of exciting.
975
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:21,800
You know, the romantic
in me is always happy
976
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,700
when somebody has
a cast of footprint.
977
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,467
Even though
I'm in the UFO field,
978
00:40:25,467 --> 00:40:27,100
I think cryptids are awesome.
979
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,800
I love it when people tell me
stories about cryptids.
980
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,667
It blows my mind.
It also scares me, too.
981
00:40:32,667 --> 00:40:34,000
I want to go camping
with Chad.
982
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,700
-[chuckling] Yeah.
-And, uh, I want to go
to all the scary places.
983
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,266
Yeah, totally. Totally.
984
00:40:38,266 --> 00:40:40,100
[indistinct chatter]
985
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:41,266
[Mitch] Well,
another good night
986
00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:43,266
at the Variety.
987
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:45,467
-Yeah. Oh, man.
-One more joke
for the road. [chuckles]
988
00:40:45,467 --> 00:40:48,000
What do you find
on every alien farm?
989
00:40:49,266 --> 00:40:51,200
-I don't know.
-A tractor beam.
990
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,800
[both chuckle]
991
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,500
[man] One of us noticeda light in the sky.
992
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:00,567
Then it kept
coming closer to us.
993
00:41:00,567 --> 00:41:02,834
And it kept getting bigger.
994
00:41:03,967 --> 00:41:06,266
But we were all like,
"What the [bleep] is this?"
995
00:41:06,266 --> 00:41:08,000
[woman] Meand my kids were driving,
996
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,367
and from the back of the car
997
00:41:09,367 --> 00:41:12,166
I can see a string
of lights in the sky.
998
00:41:12,166 --> 00:41:14,100
What the [bleep] is
in the sky?
999
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,200
-[woman 2] It's moving.
-[woman] Yeah, it's going!
1000
00:41:17,066 --> 00:41:18,700
As I'm videotaping the craft,
1001
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:20,800
I audibly ask the craft,
1002
00:41:24,367 --> 00:41:25,900
[Mitch] You have a lot to lose
1003
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,767
if people see
you stepping forward.
1004
00:41:27,767 --> 00:41:29,166
I'm not making anything up.
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