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A man's got to do what he's got to do 8 00:03:51,487 --> 00:03:55,719 Let's go back, back, back, back, back... 9 00:04:13,567 --> 00:04:17,719 My mother used to say because I was born the Second World War started 10 00:04:18,087 --> 00:04:23,684 Richard Starkey Born Liverpool 7th July 1940 11 00:04:23,927 --> 00:04:26,999 I was with mother until about four, then my father split 12 00:04:27,247 --> 00:04:32,241 He was a merchant seaman. It was 1940 and the war and all that 13 00:04:34,127 --> 00:04:41,158 John Winston Lennon Born Liverpool 9th October 1940 14 00:04:43,447 --> 00:04:46,280 My mum was a Catholic, dad was a Protestant 15 00:04:46,527 --> 00:04:52,523 They got married quite late. I think they had me when they were 40 16 00:04:54,807 --> 00:05:02,646 James Paul McCartney Born Liverpool 18th June 1942 17 00:05:03,647 --> 00:05:06,798 At the time I was born my father's job was driving a bus 18 00:05:07,047 --> 00:05:11,086 I lived in a two-up and two-down, 12 Arnold Grove 19 00:05:11,687 --> 00:05:18,923 George Harrison Born Liverpool 25th February 1943 20 00:05:35,727 --> 00:05:37,718 My mum was a nurse 21 00:05:37,967 --> 00:05:40,686 She was a midwife as well 22 00:05:41,367 --> 00:05:43,881 My dad was a cotton salesman 23 00:05:45,007 --> 00:05:48,522 My father and my mother split when I was about four 24 00:05:48,767 --> 00:05:52,760 I was with mother up to then, then I was brought up by an aunty 25 00:05:53,767 --> 00:05:57,646 Dad was a... he made cakes 26 00:05:57,887 --> 00:06:00,845 so we always had sugar through the war 27 00:06:01,087 --> 00:06:04,443 She ended up doing a lot of jobs as he left when I was three 28 00:06:04,687 --> 00:06:06,803 He decided that was enough of that 29 00:06:07,047 --> 00:06:12,201 She did any job she could get to feed and clothe me 30 00:06:13,287 --> 00:06:18,281 My mother was from an Irish family called French 31 00:06:19,327 --> 00:06:22,797 She had lots of brothers and sisters 32 00:06:23,527 --> 00:06:27,725 My grandmother lived in Albert Grove, which was next to Arnold Grove 33 00:06:28,647 --> 00:06:34,119 I was terrible at school. I wasn't there much as I was often sick 34 00:06:34,487 --> 00:06:39,959 I had peritonitis when I was six and a half - a burst appendix 35 00:06:40,527 --> 00:06:44,315 They told my mother that I'd be dead three times-but I'm still here 36 00:06:44,967 --> 00:06:51,076 My dad was an amateur musician who played piano 37 00:06:51,607 --> 00:06:57,796 I've memories of lying on the floor, hearing him play 38 00:06:59,487 --> 00:07:05,801 When my parents were younger they listened on an old crystal radio 39 00:07:07,127 --> 00:07:09,516 John really loved his mother. I loved her too 40 00:07:09,767 --> 00:07:13,555 She played the ukelele. To this day... 41 00:07:13,807 --> 00:07:17,595 if I meet grown-ups who play ukeleles, I love them 42 00:07:18,007 --> 00:07:20,680 Everybody has their party piece in Liverpool 43 00:07:20,927 --> 00:07:26,923 My mother's was Little Drummer Boy. She sang it to me 44 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:32,077 I'd sing Nobody's Child to her and she'd always cry 45 00:07:38,927 --> 00:07:42,761 Rock'n'roll meant it was real, everything else was unreal 46 00:07:43,007 --> 00:07:48,798 It was the only thing to get through to me, at 15, of all the things happening 47 00:08:10,527 --> 00:08:15,999 You can't imagine a time when rock'n'roll was only one of the musics 48 00:08:21,407 --> 00:08:24,160 Whatever record was being played, you'd try and listen to it 49 00:08:24,407 --> 00:08:27,843 You couldn't even get a cup of sugar, let alone a rock'n'roll record 50 00:08:32,087 --> 00:08:34,282 There was no such thing as an English record 51 00:08:34,527 --> 00:08:39,317 The first English record that was anything was Move It by Cliff Richard 52 00:08:39,567 --> 00:08:41,558 Before that there'd been nothing 53 00:08:45,807 --> 00:08:50,562 You'd listen to whatever was on the radio in those days 54 00:08:57,247 --> 00:09:01,843 I listened to a lot of country and western - skiffle was coming through 55 00:09:32,247 --> 00:09:37,037 There were lots of people coming up and one of them was Buddy Holly 56 00:09:37,447 --> 00:09:40,837 We loved his vocal sound and we loved his guitar playing 57 00:09:41,087 --> 00:09:45,683 But most of all was the fact that he actually wrote the stuff himself 58 00:09:45,927 --> 00:09:47,918 That's what turned us on 59 00:09:48,407 --> 00:09:52,480 I was at art school for five years 60 00:09:52,727 --> 00:09:58,085 They'd only allow jazz to be played - no rock'n'roll in those days 61 00:09:58,327 --> 00:10:02,639 We conned them into letting us play rock'n'roll by calling it blues 62 00:10:03,247 --> 00:10:06,239 As I became a teenager 63 00:10:06,487 --> 00:10:11,880 I was 12 or 13 when I first heard Fats Domino, I'm in Love Again 64 00:10:12,127 --> 00:10:16,598 That was the first what I would call rock'n'roll record I ever heard 65 00:10:17,167 --> 00:10:19,840 Even Bill Haley was around then 66 00:10:20,447 --> 00:10:24,156 I remember being in school when I was a kid 67 00:10:24,407 --> 00:10:29,276 Somebody had a picture in one of the musical papers... of Elvis 68 00:10:29,527 --> 00:10:32,325 It was an advert for Heartbreak Hotel 69 00:10:33,647 --> 00:10:38,960 I just looked at it and thought, he's just so good looking, just perfect 70 00:10:39,327 --> 00:10:42,285 When I was 16, Elvis was what was happening 71 00:10:42,527 --> 00:10:47,806 A guy with long greasy hair wiggling his ass and singing Hound Dog 72 00:10:48,047 --> 00:10:52,086 That's Alright Mama and those early Sun Records-his great period 73 00:10:52,487 --> 00:10:56,560 That's him-the guru we've been waiting for-the messiah has arrived 74 00:11:23,047 --> 00:11:27,120 One of our favourite records was Searchin'by the Coasters 75 00:11:49,127 --> 00:11:53,359 We heard people like Big Bill Broonzy. I think he did a tour of England 76 00:12:21,487 --> 00:12:24,445 I was a big fan of his and Frankie Laine 77 00:12:39,047 --> 00:12:43,882 All those train songs, Rock Island Line and all that stuff 78 00:12:45,767 --> 00:12:49,840 Lonnie Donegan 79 00:13:03,287 --> 00:13:06,279 Suddenly here was a rock'n'roll hero who had glasses 80 00:13:07,767 --> 00:13:12,283 Buddy Holly and The Crickets 81 00:13:24,767 --> 00:13:31,366 The first music I can remember hearing as guitar-oriented music 82 00:13:31,607 --> 00:13:34,440 was Jimmie Rodgers, "The Singing Brakeman" 83 00:13:56,207 --> 00:14:00,678 I had no idea about doing music as a way of life... 84 00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:04,715 until rock'n'roll hit me and that changed my whole life 85 00:14:04,967 --> 00:14:11,440 Drums were the only thing I wanted. I never looked at guitars or anything 86 00:14:12,007 --> 00:14:15,841 My dad used to be a trumpet player and for my birthday 87 00:14:16,087 --> 00:14:22,242 he bought me a trumpet from Rushworth and Drapers' music store in Liverpool 88 00:14:22,807 --> 00:14:27,039 At 16 I re-established a relationship with my mother for about 4 years 89 00:14:27,287 --> 00:14:31,678 She taught me music, first the banjo, then I progressed to guitar 90 00:14:31,927 --> 00:14:35,044 My first song was Ain't That A Shame, an old rock hit, Fats Domino 91 00:14:35,927 --> 00:14:42,321 When I was 13, 14, I used to be at the back of the class, drawing 92 00:14:42,567 --> 00:14:48,085 Trying to draw guitars, big cello cut-away guitars with 'F' holes 93 00:14:48,327 --> 00:14:52,206 Little solid ones with pointy or rounded cut-aways 94 00:14:52,447 --> 00:14:54,802 I was totally into guitars 95 00:14:55,167 --> 00:14:58,523 I heard about a kid who had a guitar and it was ???3.10s 96 00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:03,397 Just a little acoustic, round hole guitar 97 00:15:03,647 --> 00:15:07,481 I got the �3.10s from my mother, a lot of money in those days 98 00:15:07,967 --> 00:15:13,360 I suddenly figured out I couldn't sing with this thing in my mouth 99 00:15:13,727 --> 00:15:18,642 so I went back to the shop and traded it in for a guitar 100 00:15:18,887 --> 00:15:21,640 That was a Zenith, the first guitar I ever had 101 00:15:21,887 --> 00:15:24,037 I was about 16 102 00:15:24,287 --> 00:15:28,439 I bought a thirty-bob bass drum - thirty shillings 103 00:15:28,687 --> 00:15:32,805 Just a huge one-sided bass drum 104 00:15:33,127 --> 00:15:37,598 It's a family joke now - "The guitar's OK for a hobby but won't earn you any money" 105 00:15:38,207 --> 00:15:44,043 We'd travel the whole of Liverpool to see someone who knew a new chord 106 00:15:44,287 --> 00:15:48,485 I remember once hearing about a bloke who knew B7 107 00:15:48,727 --> 00:15:54,245 We knew E and A - Those are quite easy - but we didn't know B7 108 00:15:54,487 --> 00:15:58,526 That was the missing link. The other chord. The lost chord 109 00:15:58,767 --> 00:16:04,558 We trooped across Liverpool, changed a couple of buses, found this fella 110 00:16:04,807 --> 00:16:07,560 He showed us dum, dum dum - B7 111 00:16:07,807 --> 00:16:12,278 We learned it from him, went home to our mates and went... 112 00:16:14,687 --> 00:16:15,756 Got it! 113 00:16:16,007 --> 00:16:19,682 Paul and I used to just kind of get together, play it a bit 114 00:16:19,927 --> 00:16:24,955 We were just schoolboys. There were no groups till a bit later 115 00:16:33,247 --> 00:16:38,116 In those days we were desperate to get anything 116 00:16:38,367 --> 00:16:40,881 Whatever film came, you'd try and see it 117 00:16:42,327 --> 00:16:47,321 The Girl Can't Help it Released 1956 118 00:16:55,567 --> 00:17:00,118 You went to those movies with Elvis or somebody in them in Liverpool 119 00:17:00,367 --> 00:17:03,564 Everybody was waiting to see him - I'd be waiting there too 120 00:17:03,807 --> 00:17:06,719 They'd all scream when he came on the screen 121 00:17:06,967 --> 00:17:09,276 So we thought, that's a good job! 122 00:17:09,847 --> 00:17:12,520 When The Girl Can't Help It came along 123 00:17:12,767 --> 00:17:15,565 Instead of us looking at old black and white movies and thinking 124 00:17:15,807 --> 00:17:18,446 "There's Clyde McPhatter, there's Fats Domino" 125 00:17:18,687 --> 00:17:22,077 people we loved, who were being treated quite shabbily 126 00:17:22,327 --> 00:17:25,876 suddenly this was in colour and in widescreen 127 00:17:26,127 --> 00:17:30,917 At the start of Girl Can't Help lt, Tom Ewell comes on and says... 128 00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:35,684 Widescreen 129 00:17:42,247 --> 00:17:43,521 Colour! 130 00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:50,955 Gorgeous, life-like colour by Deluxe 131 00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:04,718 Sometimes you wonder who's minding the store 132 00:18:05,247 --> 00:18:08,398 You cut to Jayne Mansfield and that's it-the game's over 133 00:18:25,007 --> 00:18:29,125 I went to see Rock Around The Clock in the Isle of Man 134 00:18:29,367 --> 00:18:33,519 My grandparents took me and it was sensational 135 00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:38,522 They ripped up the cinema and this was good for me to see 136 00:18:39,567 --> 00:18:43,799 Bill Haley and The Comets 137 00:18:59,007 --> 00:19:03,398 I went to grammar school with Paul 138 00:19:03,887 --> 00:19:07,926 We started in the same class, then we went into different streams 139 00:19:08,167 --> 00:19:13,400 But basically I knew him since I was about eleven 140 00:19:13,647 --> 00:19:19,279 I didn't really know him like a friend until a number of years later 141 00:19:19,527 --> 00:19:22,997 I met George at the Liverpool Institute as well 142 00:19:23,247 --> 00:19:26,842 He was a year younger than Paul and I 143 00:19:27,087 --> 00:19:32,207 Neil Aspinall Schoolfriend I met George-we used to smoke behind the air-raid shelters 144 00:19:32,727 --> 00:19:38,723 George and I lived near each other in Liverpool, just a bus stop away 145 00:19:39,127 --> 00:19:42,722 I'd get on the bus and then the stop afterwards George would get on 146 00:19:42,967 --> 00:19:47,040 Being close in age, we'd sit together and we'd talk about stuff and that 147 00:19:47,487 --> 00:19:53,164 In fact he was, I think, about one and a half years younger than me 148 00:19:53,407 --> 00:19:57,798 A big age difference at that time so I suppose I talked down to him a bit 149 00:19:58,047 --> 00:20:01,084 as you do to a kid one and a half years younger than you 150 00:20:01,327 --> 00:20:04,319 When he's sort of 14 and a half and I'm sort of 16 151 00:20:04,567 --> 00:20:08,958 Perhaps I talked down to him because I'd known him as a younger kid 152 00:20:10,407 --> 00:20:14,161 He was always nine months older 153 00:20:14,407 --> 00:20:17,001 Even now, he's still nine months older 154 00:20:18,447 --> 00:20:23,521 Paul met me the first day I did Be Bop A Lu La live on stage 155 00:20:23,767 --> 00:20:27,919 A mutual friend brought him to see my group, The Quarry Men 156 00:20:28,647 --> 00:20:31,764 I had a mate at school called lvan Vaughan 157 00:20:32,007 --> 00:20:36,364 We were born on the same day so we were great mates 158 00:20:36,607 --> 00:20:41,601 One day he said do you want to come to the Woolton Village Fete? 159 00:20:41,847 --> 00:20:47,444 We went along one Saturday afternoon to the field where they had the fete 160 00:20:47,687 --> 00:20:52,920 There was a wagon, and on the back of this a little stage 161 00:20:53,167 --> 00:20:55,965 On stage were a few lads 162 00:20:56,207 --> 00:21:00,803 One particular guy I noticed at the front had a checked shirt 163 00:21:01,047 --> 00:21:05,916 Blondish hair, a bit curly, sideboards, looking pretty cool 164 00:21:06,167 --> 00:21:11,400 He was playing guitar, not a very good one 165 00:21:11,647 --> 00:21:15,686 But he was making a good job of it and I remember being impressed 166 00:21:15,927 --> 00:21:20,205 He was doing a song by the Del Vikings called Come Go With Me 167 00:21:20,447 --> 00:21:23,484 He obviously didn't know the words 168 00:21:23,727 --> 00:21:27,402 He was pulling in lyrics from blues songs, so instead of going 169 00:21:27,647 --> 00:21:31,640 "Come, little darling, come go with me" which is right 170 00:21:31,887 --> 00:21:35,960 he'd got "Down down down to the Penitentiary" 171 00:21:36,207 --> 00:21:39,643 He'd be doing the sort of stuff he'd heard on Big Bill Broonzy records 172 00:21:39,887 --> 00:21:44,677 I thought, that's clever, he's pretty good. That was John 173 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:49,760 We met and talked after the show and I saw he had talent 174 00:21:50,007 --> 00:21:54,000 He was playing backstage, doing Twenty Flight Rock by Eddie Cochran 175 00:22:08,207 --> 00:22:12,564 The thing that impressed him most was I knew all the words 176 00:22:57,327 --> 00:23:02,560 I was the singer and the leader, I made the decision to have him in the group 177 00:23:02,807 --> 00:23:09,645 Was it better to have a guy who was better than the people I had, or not? 178 00:23:09,887 --> 00:23:13,516 That decision was to let Paul in and make the group stronger 179 00:23:14,007 --> 00:23:17,602 I asked him on our first meeting "Do you want to join the group?" 180 00:23:17,847 --> 00:23:20,645 I think he said yes the next day 181 00:23:24,247 --> 00:23:26,363 George came through Paul 182 00:23:26,767 --> 00:23:30,362 "I've got this friend who's really good, you know" 183 00:23:30,607 --> 00:23:36,603 He said well yeah, like what, and I said he plays Raunchy perfectly 184 00:23:40,167 --> 00:23:43,603 We all loved that song so we said well, got to try him out 185 00:23:43,847 --> 00:23:50,525 We ended up on the top deck of an empty late night bus, just us 186 00:23:50,767 --> 00:23:55,557 and we said "Go on, George, get your guitar out, you show him" 187 00:23:56,567 --> 00:24:00,116 Sure enough-note perfect - Raunchy. "You're in" 188 00:24:37,087 --> 00:24:41,842 The first thing we ever recorded was That'll Be The Day, a Buddy Holly song 189 00:24:41,967 --> 00:24:46,597 and one of Paul's, called In Spite of All The Danger 190 00:24:46,967 --> 00:24:52,963 That record, the first we ever made, is in Liverpool somewhere 191 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:58,957 First Recordings 1958 192 00:25:16,487 --> 00:25:22,278 Everybody hung around at the Jacaranda Club near the art school 193 00:25:22,527 --> 00:25:26,122 and near Paul and George's school in the centre of Liverpool 194 00:25:26,367 --> 00:25:31,839 This was before we really formed a band, just me, Paul and George 195 00:25:39,687 --> 00:25:42,884 We used to show up for gigs with just three guitars 196 00:25:43,127 --> 00:25:47,723 The person booking us would say "Where's the drums then?" 197 00:25:47,967 --> 00:25:52,085 To cover this eventuality we'd say "The rhythm's in the guitars" 198 00:25:52,207 --> 00:25:58,601 We once tried to do this audition for Carol Levis Discoveries 199 00:25:59,487 --> 00:26:03,241 Everybody would go on and audition 200 00:26:03,487 --> 00:26:09,517 Then they'd pick out somebody and go "OK, you, you and you" 201 00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:13,726 They'd pick out about 20 different acts 202 00:26:13,967 --> 00:26:19,360 They'd have a clapometer and the winner would go on to the final 203 00:26:19,607 --> 00:26:24,237 It just kept on going. We went in for one of those 204 00:26:24,847 --> 00:26:29,398 We were on the train to Manchester, rehearsing our act 205 00:26:29,647 --> 00:26:35,597 Only me and George had our guitars. John must have sold his or bust it 206 00:26:35,967 --> 00:26:38,959 OK, there's just the two of us with guitars 207 00:26:39,207 --> 00:26:42,995 As it happened it looked good. Paul was left-handed 208 00:26:43,247 --> 00:26:46,717 I was right-handed-still am - 209 00:26:46,967 --> 00:26:51,483 John was in the middle, standing with a hand on each shoulder 210 00:26:51,727 --> 00:26:53,718 "Think it over, what you just said" 211 00:26:55,287 --> 00:26:59,678 Me and George - John did the lead and we were also going to do Rave On 212 00:26:59,927 --> 00:27:04,443 We did it, he put his arms around us and it was OK. We didn't win, as usual 213 00:27:04,687 --> 00:27:08,885 but I believe that day some unfortunate person in the theatre 214 00:27:09,127 --> 00:27:12,119 was relieved of his guitar 215 00:27:20,247 --> 00:27:25,241 Stuart Sutcliffe Stuart was John's friend from art college. He was a very good painter 216 00:27:25,487 --> 00:27:32,279 We were jealous of John's friendship, John being a bit older than us 217 00:27:33,567 --> 00:27:36,957 He was a little bit, you know... 218 00:27:37,207 --> 00:27:41,405 You wanted to sit next to him on a bus - he was the older fella 219 00:27:41,647 --> 00:27:47,279 So when Stuart came in he was taking a bit of that position away from us 220 00:27:47,527 --> 00:27:50,519 We had to take a little bit of a back seat 221 00:27:50,927 --> 00:27:56,923 The story was that he sold his painting to a John Moore exhibition 222 00:27:57,607 --> 00:28:00,405 So the question was what do you do with 75 quid? 223 00:28:00,647 --> 00:28:05,118 We said "That happens to be the exact amount it takes to buy a Hofner bass" 224 00:28:05,367 --> 00:28:07,756 That would be a great thing to spend the money on 225 00:28:08,007 --> 00:28:12,603 He said "No, I'm a painter, I've got to spend it on paints" 226 00:28:12,847 --> 00:28:16,760 We said "No, Stuart, really" and John and I gave him a persuasive argument 227 00:28:17,007 --> 00:28:21,683 that the best thing to do, obviously, was to buy this Hofner bass 228 00:28:21,927 --> 00:28:27,126 Which he did. The only trouble was, he couldn't play it 229 00:28:27,487 --> 00:28:31,878 But it was better to have a bass player who couldn't play 230 00:28:32,127 --> 00:28:34,402 than to not have a bass player at all 231 00:28:46,367 --> 00:28:50,838 Early Recordings Made in Liverpool - 1960 232 00:30:34,367 --> 00:30:38,485 Ringo was a professional drummer who sang and performed 233 00:30:38,727 --> 00:30:43,198 in one of the top groups in Liverpool before we even had a drummer 234 00:30:43,647 --> 00:30:49,643 Rory and the Hurricanes were the first who wanted to get into rock'n'roll 235 00:30:50,527 --> 00:30:53,724 We were playing skiffle before that 236 00:30:53,967 --> 00:30:59,280 and he had this rock'n'roll blonde hair attitude 237 00:30:59,527 --> 00:31:04,282 Johnny Guitar was just, for me, Liverpool's Jimi Hendrix at the time 238 00:31:04,527 --> 00:31:09,840 The one good story about Rory and the Hurricanes, of which I was a member... 239 00:31:10,087 --> 00:31:15,639 We were playing the Cavern and Johnny Guitar had a radio 240 00:31:15,887 --> 00:31:20,324 He plugged his guitar into the radio so we could be a bit more rock'n'roll 241 00:31:20,567 --> 00:31:26,324 They threw us off for being rock'n'roll. He plugged in the radio-get OFF! 242 00:31:26,807 --> 00:31:30,436 John thought of the name Beatles and he'll tell you about it now 243 00:31:31,247 --> 00:31:33,602 I had a vision when I was 12 244 00:31:33,847 --> 00:31:38,637 I saw a man on a flaming pie and he said "You are Beatles with an A", and we are 245 00:31:39,127 --> 00:31:43,040 John put this thing in Mersey Beat 246 00:31:43,287 --> 00:31:47,644 which was also started by Bill Harry who went to art college with John 247 00:31:47,887 --> 00:31:52,915 just saying that this little guy appeared on a flaming pie - 248 00:31:53,167 --> 00:31:57,206 you know, in the sky-and said "Let there be Beatles-with an A" 249 00:31:57,687 --> 00:32:02,158 John got the name Beatles ages ago 250 00:32:02,407 --> 00:32:06,036 Everybody was thinking of a name and he thought of Beatles 251 00:32:06,847 --> 00:32:10,442 I was looking for a name like the Crickets, that meant two things 252 00:32:10,687 --> 00:32:13,201 and from Crickets I got to Beatles 253 00:32:13,447 --> 00:32:17,406 When you said it, it was crawly things; when you read it, it was beat music 254 00:32:22,327 --> 00:32:24,795 That's better, Johnny 255 00:32:25,647 --> 00:32:29,435 You know I missed you. Ever since the club split up I missed you 256 00:32:29,967 --> 00:32:32,117 We all missed you. Do you miss him? 257 00:32:32,807 --> 00:32:35,958 Yeah! All the Beetles missed you 258 00:32:39,247 --> 00:32:44,002 When we started off we had a manager in Liverpool called Allan Williams 259 00:32:44,247 --> 00:32:50,243 He was a small bloke, with a high voice, little Welsh accent 260 00:32:50,807 --> 00:32:54,686 He was a great motivator, he was very good for us at the time 261 00:32:54,927 --> 00:33:00,604 He eventually got us an audition at one of his clubs, the Blue Angel 262 00:33:00,847 --> 00:33:03,566 It was for Larry Parnes 263 00:33:03,807 --> 00:33:08,005 who had a big stable, so-called, of rock stars in London 264 00:33:08,247 --> 00:33:11,683 so this was a big opening to get this audition 265 00:33:12,127 --> 00:33:14,118 We showed up there 266 00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:18,519 I think half the groups in Liverpool showed up that day 267 00:33:18,767 --> 00:33:22,476 Photos were taken - this is us at the audition 268 00:33:22,727 --> 00:33:25,161 Something for Larry to look at 269 00:33:25,407 --> 00:33:30,401 We always had to ask Stuart to turn away from the camera 270 00:33:30,647 --> 00:33:36,244 As he couldn't play that well. We might be in A and he might be in A flat 271 00:33:36,487 --> 00:33:41,481 Someone might spot this-we always noticed where people were on the guitars 272 00:33:41,967 --> 00:33:46,438 So there are a few photos of Stuart with his back to the camera 273 00:33:46,687 --> 00:33:49,804 That was the reason 274 00:33:50,047 --> 00:33:54,882 We got the audition - Larry picked up quite a few Liverpool groups 275 00:33:55,127 --> 00:33:59,120 Our only disappointment was that all the people in his stable 276 00:33:59,367 --> 00:34:02,120 were like... Marty Wilde 277 00:34:02,367 --> 00:34:06,883 They all had very furious names, Billy Fury, somebody Tempest, 278 00:34:07,127 --> 00:34:11,803 Storm, Hurricane-they were all tempestuous names, you know 279 00:34:12,527 --> 00:34:17,555 There's Ron Whitcherley, 17, known to his fans as Billy Fury 280 00:34:17,807 --> 00:34:20,401 Guaranteed �1000 in his first year 281 00:34:20,927 --> 00:34:26,684 Roy Taylor, 18, alias Vince Eager, �5000 by his fifth year 282 00:34:27,447 --> 00:34:32,646 We thought this would be great, but we ended up with Johnny Gentle 283 00:34:33,327 --> 00:34:36,239 Slight disappointment in the name department there 284 00:34:37,087 --> 00:34:42,798 John Askew-or Johnny Gentle - 22, from Merseyside 285 00:34:43,327 --> 00:34:46,842 Duffy Power, real name Raymond Howard, 17 286 00:34:47,367 --> 00:34:52,316 All - Eager, Power, Gentle, Fury - in the lucrative business, as someone said 287 00:34:52,567 --> 00:34:55,764 of putting teenage growing pains to music 288 00:34:56,287 --> 00:34:58,323 Do you re-christen all your boys? 289 00:34:58,567 --> 00:35:01,764 Larry Parnes Oh yes, I think this is terribly important 290 00:35:02,007 --> 00:35:06,080 Otherwise they would go on the stage with unsuitable names 291 00:35:06,527 --> 00:35:11,999 They wanted a more imaginative name than The Beatles 292 00:35:12,247 --> 00:35:16,399 They came up with Long John Silver and the Beetles and we thought no 293 00:35:16,647 --> 00:35:19,161 It ended up as Long John and the Silver Beetles 294 00:35:19,407 --> 00:35:23,798 We became the Silver Beetles for this tour of Scotland 295 00:35:24,087 --> 00:35:29,115 So we thought, if the name of the group's been changed and he's Long John 296 00:35:29,367 --> 00:35:34,885 We all changed our names but people thought that John didn't - John was cool - 297 00:35:35,127 --> 00:35:40,440 but he was Long John for that tour. He was quite happy to be Long John too 298 00:35:40,687 --> 00:35:44,600 I thought, if he's changing it maybe we all should 299 00:35:44,847 --> 00:35:48,760 We all fancied it, our first foray into professional entertainment 300 00:35:49,007 --> 00:35:52,238 Well, that's what you do, isn't it? You change your name 301 00:35:52,487 --> 00:35:55,843 I became Paul Ramon, for some reason 302 00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:58,760 I thought it was a very exotic French-sounding name 303 00:35:59,807 --> 00:36:02,480 And I was Carl Harrison 304 00:36:06,447 --> 00:36:11,362 It doesn't sound like a stage name now, it's just that I loved Carl Perkins 305 00:36:11,967 --> 00:36:14,879 Stuart became Stuart de Stael 306 00:36:15,127 --> 00:36:19,120 He liked Nicholas de Stael, an abstract expressionist painter 307 00:36:20,007 --> 00:36:25,240 Anyway, that was a pretty pathetic tour. By the end of it we were broke 308 00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:31,244 We had no money, we were all cold, freezing, and just miserable 309 00:36:31,487 --> 00:36:36,880 That was it. We came back to Liverpool and nothing happened really 310 00:36:37,127 --> 00:36:41,837 I felt really sad - we were like orphans or something 311 00:36:42,087 --> 00:36:47,525 Our shoes were full of holes, our trousers were a mess... 312 00:36:47,767 --> 00:36:53,763 Larry Parnes' fella, Johnny Gentle, had this posh suit and stuff 313 00:36:54,247 --> 00:36:58,399 I remember trying to play Won't You Wear My Ring 314 00:36:58,647 --> 00:37:02,401 That's what he was doing - one of those Elvis tunes 315 00:37:02,647 --> 00:37:06,925 And we were crummy, we were really an embarrassment 316 00:37:07,167 --> 00:37:09,442 We didn't have amplifiers or anything 317 00:37:09,687 --> 00:37:13,600 And so I would say to the others when we were all depressed 318 00:37:13,847 --> 00:37:18,682 thinking the group was going nowhere and this is a shitty deal 319 00:37:18,927 --> 00:37:20,918 I'd say "Where are we going, fellas?" 320 00:37:21,167 --> 00:37:24,364 They'd go "To the top, Johnny" in pseudo American voices 321 00:37:24,607 --> 00:37:28,566 I'd say "Where's that, fellas?" "To the toppermost of the poppermost" 322 00:37:28,807 --> 00:37:31,879 I'd say "Right", then we'd all cheer up 323 00:37:32,727 --> 00:37:38,563 Derry and the Seniors got offered a job in London 324 00:37:38,807 --> 00:37:42,766 Give up your jobs and come to London and you're going with Larry, right? 325 00:37:43,007 --> 00:37:46,795 They gave up their jobs and then didn't get a gig 326 00:37:47,047 --> 00:37:49,641 so they were a bit pissed off 327 00:37:49,887 --> 00:37:55,405 They said "We're going to London, we'll get Parnsey and beat him up" 328 00:37:55,647 --> 00:38:01,199 Allan Williams, the club owner who did the audition... 329 00:38:01,447 --> 00:38:06,885 probably the first big groupie of Liverpool, drove them to London 330 00:38:07,127 --> 00:38:12,247 He said bring your instruments, lads, you might get a gig 331 00:38:12,487 --> 00:38:16,275 So he got them a gig in the Two I's in London 332 00:38:17,207 --> 00:38:24,124 This fella, Bruno Koschmider, from a club in Hamburg... 333 00:38:24,567 --> 00:38:29,243 I think it was him, he saw them and booked them to go to Germany 334 00:38:29,487 --> 00:38:35,039 Later he said he wanted another band - we were probably cheap 335 00:38:35,367 --> 00:38:41,397 Allan Williams said OK, lads, you can have this job in Germany 336 00:38:41,647 --> 00:38:46,675 The only problem is he's asked for a 5-piece band 337 00:38:46,927 --> 00:38:51,523 At that point Paul was the drummer because all the drummers didn't show up 338 00:38:51,767 --> 00:38:57,046 So that's where I said "OK, I remember this guy..." and we went up to this club 339 00:38:57,287 --> 00:39:01,121 Pete Best-he had a drum kit for Christmas 340 00:39:01,727 --> 00:39:06,721 He was known on Merseyside as mean, moody and magnificent 341 00:39:08,207 --> 00:39:11,916 We had all sorts of different drummers 342 00:39:12,167 --> 00:39:15,159 Few people owned drum kits. They're expensive 343 00:39:15,407 --> 00:39:17,921 And they were usually idiots 344 00:39:18,167 --> 00:39:22,524 We got Pete Best because we needed a drummer to go to Hamburg 345 00:39:22,807 --> 00:39:27,323 He came down to the Jacaranda Club 346 00:39:27,887 --> 00:39:32,563 We did a quick audition, jumped in the van and went to Hamburg 347 00:41:09,367 --> 00:41:13,679 We ended up in Hamburg very late one night 348 00:41:13,927 --> 00:41:18,000 There was no one there to meet us, but we could find Hamburg off the map 349 00:41:18,247 --> 00:41:23,241 But St Pauli district and the Reeperbahn... but everyone knew 350 00:41:28,207 --> 00:41:32,564 We found the street and the club but it was all closed 351 00:41:32,807 --> 00:41:36,482 We had no hotel or anything and it was now bedtime 352 00:41:36,727 --> 00:41:41,562 We managed to shake up someone from a neighbouring club 353 00:41:41,807 --> 00:41:45,766 They opened the club and we slept in the alcoves on the red leather seats 354 00:41:46,767 --> 00:41:52,239 The second night we moved into the Bambi Kino for 2 or 3 months 355 00:41:52,607 --> 00:41:56,486 I remember Rory Storm and his group coming with Ringo to see us 356 00:41:56,727 --> 00:42:02,438 They arrived a bit later and came to see how the groups were living 357 00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:05,918 They were really shocked 358 00:42:06,167 --> 00:42:09,318 One of us had a Union Jack over us to keep warm 359 00:42:09,567 --> 00:42:15,563 Rory and I were staying in one room in the German Seamen's Mission 360 00:42:15,967 --> 00:42:19,403 That was luxury-absoloute bloody luxury 361 00:42:19,647 --> 00:42:24,801 Before we got to the club, the Kaiserkeller 362 00:42:25,047 --> 00:42:28,437 Howie Casey, sax player from Liverpool 363 00:42:28,687 --> 00:42:32,600 who also played a lot with Paul McCartney later on 364 00:42:32,847 --> 00:42:36,237 They were sleeping for a while in the back of the club 365 00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:39,479 I'll never forget when we arrived they said: 366 00:42:39,607 --> 00:42:41,837 "This is where you live" 367 00:42:41,967 --> 00:42:48,964 Just a couple of old settees and Union Jacks for sheets 368 00:42:49,207 --> 00:42:52,563 We don't want this, we've got suits, we're leaving, blah, blah, blah 369 00:42:52,807 --> 00:42:56,925 So we went to this life of luxury in the German Seamen's Mission 370 00:42:57,567 --> 00:42:59,558 Everything else was such a buzz 371 00:42:59,807 --> 00:43:05,120 In the middle of the naughtiest city in the world at 17 years old 372 00:43:05,367 --> 00:43:07,835 It was exciting 373 00:43:08,527 --> 00:43:12,964 And learning about the gangsters, the transvestites 374 00:43:13,207 --> 00:43:16,279 You know, it was like that - there's the hookers... 375 00:43:16,527 --> 00:43:21,920 We were just kids let off the leash, straight from Liverpool to Hamburg 376 00:43:22,287 --> 00:43:24,721 We were used to little Liverpool girls 377 00:43:24,967 --> 00:43:29,722 but in Hamburg if you got a girlfriend she's likely to be a stripper 378 00:43:29,967 --> 00:43:34,757 The only kind of people who were around late at night there 379 00:43:35,727 --> 00:43:41,085 For someone who'd not really had much sex before, which we hadn't 380 00:43:41,327 --> 00:43:45,684 to be suddenly involved with the sort of hard-core striptease artist 381 00:43:45,927 --> 00:43:51,445 who obviously knew a thing or two about sex, was quite an eye-opener 382 00:43:59,207 --> 00:44:04,998 That was also a point of our lives where we found Dexedrine 383 00:44:05,247 --> 00:44:07,317 Uppers, you know, pills 384 00:44:07,567 --> 00:44:13,517 The only way we could continue was to be on Preludin, they were called 385 00:44:13,767 --> 00:44:16,884 We bought them over the counter so didn't think we were doing anything 386 00:44:17,127 --> 00:44:20,244 But you'd get really wired and go on for days 387 00:44:20,807 --> 00:44:24,197 So with beer and Preludin, that's how we survived 388 00:44:24,727 --> 00:44:30,563 We used to just be up there frothing at the mouth, just stomping away 389 00:44:30,807 --> 00:44:34,117 Those were the days 390 00:44:56,807 --> 00:45:00,083 In Hamburg, 'cos we had to work 6 or 7 hours a night - 391 00:45:02,087 --> 00:45:05,204 on stage, with no rest - 392 00:45:05,447 --> 00:45:08,678 the waiters always had these pills called Preludin 393 00:45:09,367 --> 00:45:14,361 When they saw the musicians falling over with tiredness or drink 394 00:45:14,887 --> 00:45:16,036 they'd give you the pill 395 00:45:16,287 --> 00:45:19,802 You'd take the pill and you'd be talking, you'd sober up 396 00:45:20,047 --> 00:45:24,245 You'd work until the pill wore off, then you'd have to have another 397 00:45:24,767 --> 00:45:28,362 I think that's where we found our style 398 00:45:28,607 --> 00:45:32,885 We developed our style because of this fella who used to say: 399 00:45:33,127 --> 00:45:39,043 "You've got to make a show for the people. Mach Schau" 400 00:45:39,287 --> 00:45:44,839 so we used to Mach Schau and John used to dance round like a gorilla 401 00:45:45,087 --> 00:45:48,079 We'd all knock our heads together and things like that 402 00:45:48,967 --> 00:45:53,836 When we met in Germany, they played one club, we played another 403 00:45:54,087 --> 00:45:56,282 They were just great by then 404 00:45:56,527 --> 00:46:02,204 I used to like... we'd do 12 hours at a weekend between two bands 405 00:46:02,447 --> 00:46:05,359 when we ended up at the same club 406 00:46:05,607 --> 00:46:11,842 If they had the last set, I'd be semi-drunk, demanding slow songs 407 00:46:12,207 --> 00:46:17,600 He used to like the sort of blues feel of the late night sessions 408 00:46:17,847 --> 00:46:22,557 There was hardly anybody there. I could see what he liked about it 409 00:46:22,807 --> 00:46:26,561 We were playing a bit more for ourselves by that time of night 410 00:46:26,807 --> 00:46:29,275 because there was no one in 411 00:46:29,527 --> 00:46:33,600 This was all sort of bluesey - B sides and lesser known tracks 412 00:46:33,847 --> 00:46:39,444 His particular favourite-he always used to request it-was 3.30 Blues 413 00:46:52,767 --> 00:46:56,237 We made friends with a lot of people 414 00:46:56,807 --> 00:47:01,358 Our real friends were the ones known now... 415 00:47:01,607 --> 00:47:04,758 Klaus Voormann 416 00:47:05,047 --> 00:47:07,038 Jurgen Vollmer 417 00:47:07,287 --> 00:47:11,883 and Astrid, who took all the famous photographs of us at that period 418 00:47:12,367 --> 00:47:18,363 They liked all the rock'n'roll stuff, the quiffed back hairdos... 419 00:47:18,807 --> 00:47:22,641 the leather outfits, the shades 420 00:47:22,887 --> 00:47:27,961 They weren't really rockers or mods, they were something in the middle 421 00:47:28,207 --> 00:47:32,485 They called themselves 'exies' - existentialists 422 00:47:33,207 --> 00:47:35,277 They were art students really 423 00:48:42,887 --> 00:48:45,196 Our best work was never recorded 424 00:48:45,447 --> 00:48:49,360 We were performers in Liverpool, Hamburg and round the dance halls 425 00:48:49,607 --> 00:48:52,485 What we generated was fantastic 426 00:48:55,247 --> 00:48:59,320 I was 17 when we first went out there and went to the Indra Club 427 00:48:59,567 --> 00:49:02,843 and then got moved to the Kaiserkeller 428 00:49:03,087 --> 00:49:07,205 That ended up with us getting the gig to go to the Top Ten Club 429 00:49:07,447 --> 00:49:11,440 Right before that happened, I got busted for being under age 430 00:49:11,687 --> 00:49:17,159 They had this situation in Germany I'd never come across before 431 00:49:17,407 --> 00:49:19,398 which was a curfew 432 00:49:19,647 --> 00:49:24,880 After 10 o'clock at night anybody under 18 had to get out 433 00:49:25,127 --> 00:49:30,360 I was only 17, I was in the band and I started getting worried 434 00:49:30,607 --> 00:49:36,125 Eventually somebody found out we didn't have any work permits or visas 435 00:49:36,367 --> 00:49:38,835 so they started closing in on us 436 00:49:39,087 --> 00:49:43,126 The Police came one day and they just booted me out 437 00:49:43,367 --> 00:49:47,724 That was at a critical time because we'd decided - 438 00:49:47,967 --> 00:49:50,322 we'd been offered a job to go to this other club 439 00:49:52,407 --> 00:49:55,797 The Top Ten was the club we were ambitious to play at 440 00:49:56,327 --> 00:50:02,323 It was a slightly better club, it was on the main Reeperbahn 441 00:50:02,967 --> 00:50:09,156 As we were leaving, me and Pete Best were packing up-the last to leave 442 00:50:09,407 --> 00:50:13,446 He found a condom in his luggage 443 00:50:13,687 --> 00:50:18,807 What we did, just for a laugh, outside in the corrider - 444 00:50:19,047 --> 00:50:22,005 concrete, nothing could have caught fire at all - 445 00:50:22,247 --> 00:50:25,842 we pinned it up on the wall and for a boyish prank we set fire to it 446 00:50:26,087 --> 00:50:30,126 So it left a little sort of black rubber stain on the wall 447 00:50:30,367 --> 00:50:35,122 That was like "Right, we're going, hey hey, on to better things" 448 00:50:35,367 --> 00:50:40,441 The fella wasn't pleased we were going to the new club anyway 449 00:50:40,687 --> 00:50:44,680 because we were taking all our business, all his business 450 00:50:44,927 --> 00:50:48,920 So he rang the police and we were just walking down the Reeperbahn 451 00:50:52,007 --> 00:50:56,717 We were put in jail for about 3 hours - first time in our lives 452 00:50:56,967 --> 00:50:58,958 Bloody hell, a German jail! 453 00:51:02,807 --> 00:51:06,561 The new club owners where we were going to 454 00:51:06,807 --> 00:51:10,197 gave them a bottle of scotch or something and got us out 455 00:51:10,647 --> 00:51:15,084 Well, Paul and Pete got deported 456 00:51:15,327 --> 00:51:18,842 for burning the condom on the wall 457 00:51:19,087 --> 00:51:23,638 So they were back before me, and John got back about two days later 458 00:51:23,887 --> 00:51:29,996 I was really happy, thinking, oh great! That's the supportive nature you see 459 00:51:30,247 --> 00:51:36,686 Stuart stayed there 'cos he decided to get verheiratet with Astrid 460 00:51:37,807 --> 00:51:42,483 We went back when I was 18, we were backing up Tony Sheridan 461 00:51:42,727 --> 00:51:46,766 At that point this fella came into the club 462 00:51:47,007 --> 00:51:52,798 They said he's a famous producer and musician, Bert Kaempfert 463 00:51:53,287 --> 00:51:57,803 His claim to fame was he had a number 1 hit in America 464 00:51:58,047 --> 00:52:00,038 Not only was he a record producer 465 00:52:00,287 --> 00:52:04,041 but he had a hit in America called Wonderland by Night 466 00:52:04,287 --> 00:52:06,926 It turned out to be a trumpet solo 467 00:52:07,167 --> 00:52:11,957 He came in and this buzz went around "We've got to be really good 468 00:52:12,207 --> 00:52:15,199 "We may get a chance to record" - which we did 469 00:52:15,447 --> 00:52:21,124 He came back and asked us to come in the studio with Sheridan and record 470 00:52:21,367 --> 00:52:23,835 We were all pleased with ourselves 471 00:52:24,087 --> 00:52:28,285 But he just wanted us to back up Sheridan 472 00:52:28,527 --> 00:52:32,440 I remember feeling depressed but we did get to do My Bonnie 473 00:52:57,167 --> 00:53:00,557 While we were out there, we started to see other groups 474 00:53:00,807 --> 00:53:06,518 and started to get a little bit dissatisfied with Pete 475 00:53:06,847 --> 00:53:13,002 I remember him not turning up for gigs and we kept getting Ringo in 476 00:53:13,367 --> 00:53:17,406 Ringo Starr, who changed his name before all of us 477 00:53:17,647 --> 00:53:22,767 He had a beard and was grown up and had a Zephyr Zodiac 478 00:53:23,007 --> 00:53:26,477 which was a very big car in those days 479 00:53:26,727 --> 00:53:29,525 Nobody had this, it was a knock-off probably 480 00:53:29,767 --> 00:53:32,839 Fell off the back of a showroom 481 00:53:34,967 --> 00:53:39,916 Ringo kept sitting in with the band and it seemed like this was it 482 00:53:40,247 --> 00:53:44,240 This happened 3 or 4 times and then that was the end, we were just pals 483 00:53:44,487 --> 00:53:48,480 We'd have a drink after it and then I'd be back with Rory 484 00:53:48,727 --> 00:53:51,924 Around this time Stuart and I got a little bit fraught too 485 00:53:52,167 --> 00:53:57,400 I claim that I was trying to make sure we were musically very good 486 00:53:57,647 --> 00:54:00,445 but this did create a couple of rifts 487 00:54:00,687 --> 00:54:05,158 I could have been more sensitive but who's sensitive at that age 488 00:54:05,887 --> 00:54:11,439 When we first met him he couldn't play at all-when he first got a bass 489 00:54:11,687 --> 00:54:16,442 He learned a few tunes - occasionally it was a bit embarrassing 490 00:54:16,687 --> 00:54:21,283 If it had a lot of changes to it he was... but he knew that too 491 00:54:21,527 --> 00:54:25,566 That's why he was never really at ease being in the band 492 00:54:25,807 --> 00:54:30,722 That's why he left after the gig in Hamburg - to go back to art college 493 00:54:30,967 --> 00:54:34,516 At that point Paul was still playing guitar 494 00:54:34,767 --> 00:54:38,476 I remember saying "One of us is going to be the bass player" 495 00:54:38,727 --> 00:54:42,766 I said I'm not doing it and John wasn't doing it either 496 00:54:43,007 --> 00:54:44,998 He went for it 497 00:54:53,287 --> 00:54:57,200 He became the bass player so then we were a four-piece band 498 00:55:05,927 --> 00:55:10,637 In Liverpool we got quite a few bookings - they thought we were German 499 00:55:10,887 --> 00:55:15,278 They billed us from Hamburg and said "You speak good English" 500 00:55:15,527 --> 00:55:19,600 We went back to Germany. We had a bit more money so bought leather pants 501 00:55:19,847 --> 00:55:24,045 We looked like 4 Gene Vincents, only a bit younger, I think 502 00:55:24,287 --> 00:55:30,840 Back in Liverpool, all the groups were doing this Shadows stuff 503 00:55:32,327 --> 00:55:36,240 The Shadows 504 00:55:37,767 --> 00:55:41,442 That's why we became popular because they couldn't believe it 505 00:55:41,687 --> 00:55:43,484 There were all these dum de dum de dum... 506 00:55:46,047 --> 00:55:49,881 and then suddenly we come on - wild men in leather suits 507 00:55:52,967 --> 00:55:56,039 I think Pete Best said to them 508 00:55:56,287 --> 00:56:01,281 that I'd drive them to the gigs and stuff 509 00:56:01,527 --> 00:56:05,520 I think I got a pound a night, or a pound a gig 510 00:56:05,767 --> 00:56:07,837 Five bob off each of them 511 00:56:08,087 --> 00:56:12,683 They needed transport to get to the Cavern and wherever 512 00:56:13,567 --> 00:56:17,276 We played the Cavern before we ever went to Hamburg, I believe, 513 00:56:17,527 --> 00:56:21,805 in the days when it was a jazz and folk club 514 00:56:23,287 --> 00:56:28,566 I remember playing there and them handing us notes saying: 515 00:56:29,127 --> 00:56:33,325 "Stop playing this music, this is a jazz club" 516 00:56:34,407 --> 00:56:40,323 We were saying "We'd like to do this tune by Leadbelly 517 00:56:40,567 --> 00:56:43,365 "It's called Long Tall Sally" 518 00:56:43,607 --> 00:56:46,963 We'd do it... and finally they kicked us off 519 00:57:04,527 --> 00:57:07,200 The Cavern is their home 520 00:57:07,447 --> 00:57:12,043 Cathy - A Fan from the Cavern Club It's where they first started and where they've played most 521 00:57:13,047 --> 00:57:17,643 I've had a couple of requests to do Kansas City so we'd like to do it 522 00:57:22,967 --> 00:57:27,324 We did well at the Cavern and attracted some big audiences 523 00:57:28,087 --> 00:57:30,203 And the word got around 524 00:57:30,727 --> 00:57:34,959 A kid had gone into Brian's record store and had asked for My Bonnie 525 00:57:35,487 --> 00:57:39,685 He found out that the Beatles were supposed to be a Liverpool band 526 00:57:40,207 --> 00:57:43,358 and were playing the Cavern so he came down to check us out 527 00:57:43,887 --> 00:57:47,641 I remember Bob Wooler, the disc jockey, saying: 528 00:57:48,647 --> 00:57:52,242 "We have a Mr Epstein who owns NEMS Enterprises in here" 529 00:57:52,487 --> 00:57:56,765 Everybody was going "Ooh, wow, big, big deal" 530 00:58:02,407 --> 00:58:05,683 This was quite a new world for me 531 00:58:05,927 --> 00:58:09,886 I was amazed by this sort of dark, smoky... 532 00:58:10,367 --> 00:58:15,487 dank atmosphere with this beat music playing away 533 00:58:16,487 --> 00:58:22,926 Brian Epstein The Beatles were then just four lads on that rather dimly lit stage 534 00:58:23,727 --> 00:58:25,718 somewhat ill-clad 535 00:58:25,967 --> 00:58:30,518 Their presentation left a little to be desired as far as I was concerned 536 00:58:30,767 --> 00:58:34,965 I'd been interested in the theatre and acting for a long time 537 00:58:35,207 --> 00:58:40,565 but amongst all that, something tremendous came over 538 00:58:40,807 --> 00:58:43,958 I was immediately struck by their music 539 00:58:44,207 --> 00:58:47,324 their beat and sense of humour on stage 540 00:58:47,567 --> 00:58:52,004 Even when I met them I was struck again by their personal charm 541 00:58:52,247 --> 00:58:55,876 It was there that really it all started 542 00:58:56,847 --> 00:59:01,637 Brian had this shop. And it was good - we used to pick up records 543 00:59:01,887 --> 00:59:07,883 He wanted to manage us and we weren't going anywhere anyway 544 00:59:08,287 --> 00:59:13,486 We said you might as well. He got us jobs, he got us a bit more money 545 00:59:13,727 --> 00:59:18,881 then started getting us radio shows and things like that 546 00:59:19,127 --> 00:59:24,963 Then we got into our suits - he talked us out of the leather suits 547 00:59:25,487 --> 00:59:29,480 It was a bit old hat anyway, all wearing leather gear 548 00:59:29,727 --> 00:59:34,357 and we decided we didn't want to look ridiculous 549 00:59:34,607 --> 00:59:37,599 Often people would laugh 550 00:59:37,847 --> 00:59:41,317 and we didn't want to appear as a gang of idiots 551 00:59:41,567 --> 00:59:45,116 Brian suggested that we just wore ordinary suits 552 00:59:46,247 --> 00:59:51,241 It was later put around that I'd betrayed our heavy leather image 553 00:59:51,487 --> 00:59:54,240 and I wanted us to get suits 554 00:59:54,487 --> 00:59:58,002 but I seem to recall that we all went quite happily 555 00:59:58,247 --> 01:00:02,718 I didn't drag anyone to the tailors, they all went quite happily 556 01:00:03,607 --> 01:00:07,395 We gladly switched into suits 557 01:00:07,647 --> 01:00:11,322 if we were going to get more money, get some more gigs 558 01:00:11,567 --> 01:00:14,559 Brian was a beautiful guy - Brian Epstein 559 01:00:14,807 --> 01:00:17,401 An intuitive, theatrical guy 560 01:00:17,647 --> 01:00:20,559 He knew we had something and he presented us well 561 01:00:21,727 --> 01:00:26,881 I remember we had to drive to London on New Year's Eve 562 01:00:27,127 --> 01:00:32,759 and we did a session for Decca, an audition for Decca 563 01:00:34,287 --> 01:00:39,042 Decca Audition Tape Recorded New Year's Day 1962 564 01:01:18,607 --> 01:01:20,882 When you hear the tape, it's pretty good 565 01:01:21,127 --> 01:01:24,358 It's not great but it's certainly good for then 566 01:01:24,887 --> 01:01:28,800 Dick Rowe, the man who didn't sign us - the head of Decca - 567 01:01:29,047 --> 01:01:33,279 said "Guitar groups are on the way out, Mr Epstein" 568 01:01:50,087 --> 01:01:53,875 So Brian then had this tape which he hawked around 569 01:01:54,127 --> 01:01:59,281 I think somebody in the HMV shop on Oxford Street 570 01:02:00,087 --> 01:02:04,365 knew George Martin and told Brian to go and play the tape to him 571 01:02:04,607 --> 01:02:08,282 and he gave us the audition at Abbey Road 572 01:02:08,607 --> 01:02:13,761 George hadn't done rock'n'roll and we'd never been in a studio 573 01:02:13,887 --> 01:02:16,355 So we learnt a lot together 574 01:02:16,487 --> 01:02:20,878 He had a great musical knowledge and background 575 01:02:21,727 --> 01:02:27,723 They were fairly irreverent, even in those days, which I loved 576 01:02:27,967 --> 01:02:32,757 I like a bit of rebel in people and I liked their sense of humour 577 01:02:33,007 --> 01:02:36,079 After all, that was my main stock-in-trade too 578 01:02:36,327 --> 01:02:41,242 They liked what I'd been doing with Peter Sellers and the Goons 579 01:02:41,487 --> 01:02:44,843 George Martin Record Producer I thought they had tremendous charisma 580 01:02:45,087 --> 01:02:48,238 I knew that that alone would sell them 581 01:02:48,727 --> 01:02:53,596 We did a reasonable audition but he didn't like our drummer 582 01:02:54,127 --> 01:02:57,676 I said to Brian Epstein if... when we do the next session 583 01:02:57,927 --> 01:03:02,443 I won't interfere with you and the Beatles but I'll provide the drummer 584 01:03:03,167 --> 01:03:08,764 We really started to think we needed "the great drummer" in Liverpool 585 01:03:09,527 --> 01:03:13,679 Historically it may look like we did something nasty to Pete 586 01:03:13,927 --> 01:03:18,125 It may have been we could have done it better but the thing was - 587 01:03:18,367 --> 01:03:22,519 as history also shows - Ringo was the member of the band 588 01:03:22,767 --> 01:03:29,002 It's just that he didn't enter the film until that particular scene 589 01:03:30,687 --> 01:03:33,884 It was a Wednesday and Brian called 590 01:03:34,127 --> 01:03:38,678 I don't remember John calling, although it's in somebody's book 591 01:03:39,087 --> 01:03:42,284 "Would you join the band?" 592 01:03:42,527 --> 01:03:46,566 I said "What do you mean?" and he said "Really join the band" 593 01:03:46,807 --> 01:03:50,846 I said "Sure, yeah, when?" and he said now 594 01:03:51,087 --> 01:03:55,126 I said "No, I can't do that - we've got these other four guys here 595 01:03:55,367 --> 01:03:59,406 "We'd got a gig for months and I can't just pull out now" 596 01:03:59,647 --> 01:04:02,605 So I said "I'll join you Saturday" 597 01:04:02,847 --> 01:04:07,045 We used to have Saturday off. That's when they changed the campers 598 01:04:07,287 --> 01:04:10,996 So I gave Rory until Saturday to bring someone in for Sunday 599 01:04:11,247 --> 01:04:16,719 which I thought was giving him a hell of a lot of time, and that was it 600 01:04:27,167 --> 01:04:31,001 We played the Cavern - there was a lot of fighting and shouting 601 01:04:31,247 --> 01:04:33,920 Half of them hated me, half of them loved me 602 01:04:34,567 --> 01:04:39,322 A few people shouted "Ringo never, Pete Best for ever" 603 01:04:39,567 --> 01:04:45,597 After about half an hour I said "Oh, bugger off", and stepped out... 604 01:04:45,847 --> 01:04:49,283 The Cavern had three tunnels 605 01:04:49,527 --> 01:04:53,361 We stepped out of what was the dressing room into this dark tunnel 606 01:04:53,607 --> 01:04:56,599 and some guy butted me right in the eye 607 01:04:57,567 --> 01:05:02,561 That was a bad day - and then I got hit by a bus 608 01:05:03,047 --> 01:05:05,038 George fought for me 609 01:05:05,407 --> 01:05:10,401 At this midday session at the Cavern we proudly present the Beatles 610 01:05:10,687 --> 01:05:15,477 The Cavern Club 22nd August 1962 611 01:07:08,447 --> 01:07:10,438 We want Pete! 612 01:07:12,647 --> 01:07:16,196 When Ringo came to the session for the first time 613 01:07:16,447 --> 01:07:19,245 nobody told me he was coming 614 01:07:19,487 --> 01:07:23,241 I'd booked Andy White and told Brian Epstein I was doing this 615 01:07:23,487 --> 01:07:25,603 I said I just want the three others 616 01:07:25,847 --> 01:07:31,001 Ringo expected to play and I said, "No, I've been bitten once 617 01:07:31,247 --> 01:07:34,239 "I don't even know who you are. We're having Andy White" 618 01:07:37,127 --> 01:07:41,518 I was devastated. I came down ready to roll 619 01:07:41,767 --> 01:07:44,759 and..."We've got Andy White, the professional drummer" 620 01:07:45,847 --> 01:07:50,523 But he's apologised several times since, has old George Martin 621 01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:55,682 But it was devastating and then we did that, which Andy plays on 622 01:07:55,927 --> 01:08:00,443 Then we did the album, which I play on 623 01:08:00,687 --> 01:08:04,680 So Andy wasn't doing anything so great 624 01:08:04,927 --> 01:08:08,078 Well, nothing I couldn't copy when we did the album 625 01:08:08,807 --> 01:08:11,560 Ringo bears those scars to this day 626 01:08:11,807 --> 01:08:13,843 He says "You didn't let me play, did you?" 627 01:10:35,247 --> 01:10:39,365 Their first record, Love Me Do sold 100000 copies 628 01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:44,881 It came to the charts in two days and everybody thought it was a fiddle 629 01:10:45,127 --> 01:10:50,599 because our Manager's stores send in these record returns 630 01:10:50,847 --> 01:10:55,318 Everybody down south thought he was buying them himself 631 01:10:55,567 --> 01:10:59,116 or fiddling the charts-but he wasn't 632 01:10:59,647 --> 01:11:03,003 It was bought by the kids. We had a big following 633 01:11:03,247 --> 01:11:07,957 Who'd had a record? Arthur Askey was the last, I think, from Liverpool 634 01:11:08,687 --> 01:11:11,679 It got to 17 within the following weeks 635 01:11:11,927 --> 01:11:16,125 I don't recall what happened to it then, it probably just died off 636 01:11:16,367 --> 01:11:20,883 but the next time we went to EMI they were really more friendly 637 01:11:21,127 --> 01:11:24,642 "Oh, hello lads, come in" 638 01:11:27,687 --> 01:11:32,078 It was quite normal in those days to find material for artists 639 01:11:32,327 --> 01:11:36,400 by going to Tin Pan Alley and listening to all the publishers' wares 640 01:11:36,647 --> 01:11:40,720 That was a regular part of my life. I'd spend ages looking for songs 641 01:11:40,967 --> 01:11:44,403 And for the Beatles I was really looking for a hit song 642 01:11:44,647 --> 01:11:47,719 It didn't matter so long as it suited the group 643 01:11:47,967 --> 01:11:51,846 Love Me Do was the best one they were able to offer 644 01:11:52,087 --> 01:11:56,842 I found the kind of song I was looking for - one by Mitch Murray 645 01:11:57,087 --> 01:12:00,636 called How Do You Do lt? and I was convinced this was a hit song 646 01:12:07,367 --> 01:12:12,236 It wasn't the most marvellous song I'd ever heard in my life 647 01:12:12,487 --> 01:12:17,083 but it had that essential element to appeal to a lot of people 648 01:12:17,327 --> 01:12:20,080 and we did record it - John took the lead 649 01:12:31,567 --> 01:12:35,685 George said "If you want a number 1 song, this is it" 650 01:12:35,927 --> 01:12:40,398 We said "Yeah, but we can't go back to Liverpool singing that 651 01:12:40,647 --> 01:12:42,763 "We cannot be seen with that song" 652 01:12:43,527 --> 01:12:45,757 So we never issued it 653 01:12:46,007 --> 01:12:50,125 I gave it to Gerry and the Pacemakers and it did become number 1 654 01:13:01,607 --> 01:13:05,236 George Martin asked if we'd anything we'd like to do 655 01:13:05,487 --> 01:13:07,045 We'd got a song called Please Please Me 656 01:13:07,287 --> 01:13:12,645 John had just written it, a slow Roy Orbison kind of thing 657 01:13:12,887 --> 01:13:18,757 "Come on, please please me." Big note at the end, just like Orbison 658 01:13:19,567 --> 01:13:24,482 I'd heard him doing Only The Lonely and I was trying to..."Please Me" 659 01:13:24,727 --> 01:13:28,925 and I was always intrigued by the words of... 660 01:13:29,167 --> 01:13:33,683 "Please lend your little ears to my pleas," a Bing Crosby song 661 01:13:33,927 --> 01:13:37,920 I was always intrigued by the double use of the word 'please' 662 01:13:38,487 --> 01:13:42,400 And I said, OK. Let's try your song, let's see if it works 663 01:13:42,647 --> 01:13:46,242 At the end of the session I was able to say to them: 664 01:13:46,487 --> 01:13:49,081 "You've got your first number 1. Great!" 665 01:15:39,687 --> 01:15:45,398 Bob Wooler got on the stage, telegram in hand: "I've got news for you" 666 01:15:45,647 --> 01:15:49,435 He looked terrible, we thought something disastrous had happened 667 01:15:49,687 --> 01:15:56,035 "Please Please Me has reached number 1 in the national charts" 668 01:15:56,287 --> 01:15:59,677 The lads themselves just stopped and looked at him 669 01:15:59,927 --> 01:16:04,717 They thought he was joking - he must have been 670 01:16:04,967 --> 01:16:10,121 Lots of people who didn't know the Beatles started cheering and clapping 671 01:16:10,367 --> 01:16:13,359 Three rows of girls at the front all started crying 672 01:16:13,607 --> 01:16:16,280 It was a terrible night 673 01:16:16,527 --> 01:16:19,519 We knew then, they'll get famous and go away 674 01:16:19,767 --> 01:16:22,361 They won't belong to us no more 675 01:18:33,527 --> 01:18:36,121 Subtitles: Screentext 676 01:18:37,121 --> 01:18:47,121 Downloaded From www.AllSubs.org 63320

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