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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,348 --> 00:00:45,889 A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME 2 00:02:07,868 --> 00:02:09,641 Which came first? 3 00:02:10,778 --> 00:02:12,642 The chicken or the egg? 4 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:19,041 Did the Universe have a beginning? 5 00:02:19,166 --> 00:02:22,286 And if so, what happened before then? 6 00:02:26,686 --> 00:02:29,487 Where does the Universe come from? 7 00:02:29,770 --> 00:02:31,953 And where is it going? 8 00:03:03,549 --> 00:03:04,790 Luck. 9 00:03:05,217 --> 00:03:06,600 Luck, well 10 00:03:07,382 --> 00:03:09,542 We have been very lucky. 11 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:12,541 I mean, my family, and Stephen, everybody 12 00:03:12,941 --> 00:03:16,160 We had a few disasters, but the point is that we have survived 13 00:03:16,285 --> 00:03:18,989 Everybody has disasters, and yet some people disappears 14 00:03:19,114 --> 00:03:20,663 and they're never seen again. 15 00:03:33,461 --> 00:03:35,561 Flybombs were very alarming 16 00:03:35,918 --> 00:03:40,012 Seeking, buzzing over, and then they would cut out. 17 00:03:41,743 --> 00:03:44,154 And when you heard the bang, you knew it wasn't you, 18 00:03:44,279 --> 00:03:46,352 so you went back to your meal, or whatever. 19 00:03:46,726 --> 00:03:49,950 But one did fall quite close to our house. 20 00:03:50,075 --> 00:03:52,522 and it blew the back windows out 21 00:03:52,647 --> 00:03:56,359 so the glass was sticking dagger points out of the opposite wall. 22 00:03:59,558 --> 00:04:01,198 When Stephen was born, 23 00:04:01,323 --> 00:04:04,144 we decided he'd better be born in Oxford. 24 00:04:04,270 --> 00:04:06,659 So while I was staying in the hospital. 25 00:04:07,567 --> 00:04:10,086 I went to Blackwells, in Oxford, 26 00:04:10,211 --> 00:04:11,487 and I bought 27 00:04:11,612 --> 00:04:13,918 an astronomical atlas. 28 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,422 One of my sisters-in-law said: 29 00:04:17,547 --> 00:04:20,175 "This is a very prophetic thing for you to have done." 30 00:04:26,101 --> 00:04:28,567 How real is time? 31 00:04:29,614 --> 00:04:32,134 Will it ever come to an end? 32 00:04:36,714 --> 00:04:41,354 Where does the difference between the past and the future come from? 33 00:04:43,213 --> 00:04:47,383 Why do we remember the past but not the future? 34 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:55,990 I can remember that day when we travelled through London 35 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:58,342 and the black-out was over. 36 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:04,875 And the trains, instead of being shut in 37 00:05:05,535 --> 00:05:07,886 by blinds, so you just travelled in a train. 38 00:05:08,011 --> 00:05:09,961 We were coming over one of the bridges 39 00:05:10,086 --> 00:05:13,248 and all lights, well, such lights as were left 40 00:05:13,373 --> 00:05:14,810 were only in London. 41 00:05:14,935 --> 00:05:17,295 but it was also a completely starry night 42 00:05:17,421 --> 00:05:19,975 You could see the might whole against it. 43 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,387 I remember we all used to lie on the grass, 44 00:05:26,512 --> 00:05:28,969 looking straight up through a telescope 45 00:05:29,095 --> 00:05:31,695 and seeing the wonders of the stars. 46 00:05:32,422 --> 00:05:35,261 Stephen always had a strong sense of wonder 47 00:05:35,386 --> 00:05:38,564 and I could see that the stars would draw him, 48 00:05:39,335 --> 00:05:41,217 and further than the stars. 49 00:05:44,055 --> 00:05:49,289 I was born exactly 300 years after the death of Galileo. 50 00:05:52,362 --> 00:05:55,326 I estimate that about 200 000 51 00:05:55,451 --> 00:05:58,857 other babies were also born that day. 52 00:06:01,103 --> 00:06:03,151 I don't know whether any of them 53 00:06:03,276 --> 00:06:05,760 was later interested in astronomy. 54 00:06:09,356 --> 00:06:13,926 My first memory is about pushing a rather antiquated 55 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:16,002 carriage built[?] pram 56 00:06:16,127 --> 00:06:18,052 along North Road, 57 00:06:18,177 --> 00:06:19,816 with Stephen and Mary in it, sort of 58 00:06:19,941 --> 00:06:24,190 looking very large, because they had large heads 59 00:06:24,315 --> 00:06:26,719 and pink cheeks, and they were very noticeable. 60 00:06:27,394 --> 00:06:30,557 They all looked different from ordinary people. 61 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,859 I can remember visiting the Hawking home 62 00:06:35,984 --> 00:06:37,740 several times. 63 00:06:38,219 --> 00:06:41,413 It was the sort of place where, if you were invited to stay to supper, 64 00:06:41,538 --> 00:06:46,165 you might be allowed to have your conversation with Stephen... 65 00:06:46,290 --> 00:06:50,931 but the rest of the family would be sitting at the table reading a book. 66 00:06:51,405 --> 00:06:54,465 A behaviour which is not really approved over my circle, 67 00:06:54,590 --> 00:06:59,061 but which is tolerated from the Hawkings because they were recognised to be 68 00:06:59,336 --> 00:07:01,111 very eccentric, 69 00:07:01,236 --> 00:07:05,025 highly intelligent, very clever people, 70 00:07:05,151 --> 00:07:07,894 but still... a bit... odd. 71 00:07:09,353 --> 00:07:12,778 My impression of the Hawking family was that they were all like that, 72 00:07:12,903 --> 00:07:14,470 except for Stephen, 73 00:07:14,595 --> 00:07:18,356 who seemed to be the only normal member of the family. 74 00:07:20,957 --> 00:07:22,692 Stephen used to reckon he knew, I think it was, 75 00:07:22,817 --> 00:07:24,952 11 ways of getting into the house. 76 00:07:25,077 --> 00:07:27,069 But I could only find 10 of them. 77 00:07:28,388 --> 00:07:30,465 I'm not sure what the other way was. 78 00:07:32,736 --> 00:07:35,842 On the north side of the house was bicycle shad 79 00:07:36,374 --> 00:07:38,937 had a door at the front and a door at the back. 80 00:07:39,878 --> 00:07:41,083 Above that, 81 00:07:41,528 --> 00:07:44,329 there was a window into the L-shaped room. 82 00:07:44,949 --> 00:07:49,822 And at the front you could get sort of round corner onto the roof 83 00:07:51,845 --> 00:07:55,482 And from that level you could get onto the main roof. 84 00:07:57,563 --> 00:08:00,501 I think one of the ways that Stephen could get in was 85 00:08:00,626 --> 00:08:02,050 on the main roof. 86 00:08:04,505 --> 00:08:07,846 I must say he was a much better climber than I was. 87 00:08:10,356 --> 00:08:13,444 I still don't know what the 11th one was! 88 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:19,281 Before the 20th century, 89 00:08:19,742 --> 00:08:23,307 it was thought that the Universe had existed forever, 90 00:08:23,910 --> 00:08:27,529 or had been created at some time in the past 91 00:08:27,654 --> 00:08:30,786 more or less as we observe it today. 92 00:08:32,774 --> 00:08:34,742 People found comfort 93 00:08:34,867 --> 00:08:38,610 in the thought that even though they may grow older and die, 94 00:08:38,957 --> 00:08:42,211 the Universe was eternal and unchanging. 95 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:49,392 I gave up playing games with Stephen 96 00:08:51,065 --> 00:08:53,298 when he was ill that time about... when he was about 12. 97 00:08:53,962 --> 00:08:57,005 Because he started taking games terribly seriously. 98 00:08:57,970 --> 00:08:59,657 We had Monopoly. 99 00:09:00,819 --> 00:09:01,840 And... 100 00:09:02,452 --> 00:09:04,776 first of all the Monopoly board sprang 101 00:09:04,901 --> 00:09:07,160 railways going across it... 102 00:09:07,285 --> 00:09:09,128 tried to add complications. 103 00:09:09,253 --> 00:09:11,435 And then Monopoly just wasn't adaptable enough. 104 00:09:12,415 --> 00:09:15,873 But he ended up with a fearful game called 'Dynasty' 105 00:09:16,513 --> 00:09:19,457 which, as far as I can make out, for I say, I never played it, 106 00:09:19,582 --> 00:09:22,483 went on forever, because there was no way of ending it! 107 00:09:24,186 --> 00:09:26,484 It was almost a substitute for living as far as I could make out, 108 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:29,660 It took hours, and hours, and hours. 109 00:09:29,931 --> 00:09:31,568 I thought it was a perfectly terrible game. 110 00:09:31,693 --> 00:09:34,873 I couldn't imagine anyone getting taken up with that. 111 00:09:34,998 --> 00:09:37,942 But Stephen always had a very complicated mind, 112 00:09:38,067 --> 00:09:39,721 and I felt as much as anything 113 00:09:39,846 --> 00:09:42,461 it was the complication of it that appealed to him. 114 00:09:44,499 --> 00:09:46,556 When I was in high school, 115 00:09:46,681 --> 00:09:49,595 I learned that light from distant galaxies 116 00:09:49,866 --> 00:09:51,218 was shifted at the red. 117 00:09:53,249 --> 00:09:56,220 This meant that they were moving away from us 118 00:09:56,956 --> 00:09:59,148 and that the Universe was expanding. 119 00:10:00,367 --> 00:10:02,693 But I didn't believe it. 120 00:10:06,001 --> 00:10:09,638 A static Universe seemed much more natural. 121 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:16,683 It could have existed, and could continue to exist forever. 122 00:10:20,895 --> 00:10:25,708 We were discussing the possibility of the spontaneous generation of life, 123 00:10:26,316 --> 00:10:29,865 and I think that Stephen made a remark 124 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:33,876 which indicated not only that he thought of this, but he did even also 125 00:10:34,798 --> 00:10:37,017 come across some calculations 126 00:10:37,188 --> 00:10:40,059 as to how long it might take. 127 00:10:40,580 --> 00:10:44,707 At that time I think I made a comment to one of my friends, John McLennahan: 128 00:10:45,003 --> 00:10:50,630 "I think that Stephen will turn out to be unusually capable." 129 00:10:50,755 --> 00:10:52,651 I didn't [say it] in quite these words 130 00:10:52,776 --> 00:10:55,412 but I made one such remark to him 131 00:10:55,537 --> 00:10:58,184 and he disagreed. 132 00:10:58,518 --> 00:11:00,932 And so we made a bet on the subject. 133 00:11:01,057 --> 00:11:03,132 In a childish way we bet 134 00:11:03,257 --> 00:11:05,795 a bag of sweets on the issue. 135 00:11:06,688 --> 00:11:10,453 And instantly I reckon that my bet has come correct 136 00:11:10,578 --> 00:11:13,279 and I think I'm entitled to payment 137 00:11:13,404 --> 00:11:15,312 which is not yet been made. 138 00:11:19,004 --> 00:11:21,257 The expansion of the Universe 139 00:11:21,382 --> 00:11:25,959 suggested a possibility that the Universe had a beginning 140 00:11:26,084 --> 00:11:28,892 at some time in the past. 141 00:11:30,313 --> 00:11:34,439 The point at which the Universe may have started out 142 00:11:34,564 --> 00:11:37,047 became known as the Big Bang. 143 00:11:45,126 --> 00:11:47,912 The first year he was at St. Albans school, 144 00:11:48,355 --> 00:11:51,941 he came, I think, third from the bottom. 145 00:11:52,813 --> 00:11:54,211 So I said: "Well, Stephen, 146 00:11:54,336 --> 00:11:57,821 "do you really have to be as far down as that?" 147 00:11:57,947 --> 00:11:59,898 And he said: "Well," 148 00:12:00,023 --> 00:12:02,998 "lot of other people didn't do much better." 149 00:12:03,124 --> 00:12:04,928 He was quite unconcerned. 150 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:11,101 Somehow he was always recognized as being very bright 151 00:12:12,153 --> 00:12:15,980 and in fact they gave him the Divinity Prize one year. 152 00:12:16,738 --> 00:12:20,064 That was not surprising as his father used to reach him Bible stories 153 00:12:20,189 --> 00:12:21,527 from very early age 154 00:12:21,798 --> 00:12:23,793 and he knew them all very well 155 00:12:23,918 --> 00:12:26,578 and he was quite well versed in religious things although 156 00:12:26,703 --> 00:12:30,368 I don't think he makes a very great deal of practice of it now. 157 00:12:31,076 --> 00:12:33,845 Everyone used to argue theology. 158 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:36,942 That's a good safe subject. 159 00:12:37,901 --> 00:12:40,013 You don't need any fact, sort of, 160 00:12:40,899 --> 00:12:43,050 or distracting things like that. 161 00:12:44,133 --> 00:12:46,440 If you're going for arguing, 162 00:12:47,913 --> 00:12:51,594 you know, debating, you can quite happily debate about anything... 163 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:53,724 including... 164 00:12:54,364 --> 00:12:57,817 theology and the existence of, or otherwise, of God. 165 00:13:00,827 --> 00:13:02,964 And then someone gets bored, or 166 00:13:03,090 --> 00:13:06,187 Journey Into Space comes on or something like that 167 00:13:06,564 --> 00:13:08,569 the argument breaks up. 168 00:13:11,522 --> 00:13:13,602 In an unchanging Universe, 169 00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:17,321 one can imagine that God created the Universe 170 00:13:17,446 --> 00:13:20,764 at literally any time in the past. 171 00:13:22,972 --> 00:13:26,591 On the other hand, if the Universe is expanding 172 00:13:26,716 --> 00:13:29,171 there are maybe physical reasons 173 00:13:29,296 --> 00:13:32,009 why there had to be a beginning. 174 00:13:33,476 --> 00:13:37,193 An expanding Universe does not preclude a creator... 175 00:13:37,318 --> 00:13:42,935 but it does place limits on when he might have carried out his job. 176 00:13:47,013 --> 00:13:49,770 When the family went to India, 177 00:13:49,895 --> 00:13:53,922 it was arranged that Stephen to come and live with us for a year. 178 00:13:55,031 --> 00:13:58,256 He decided it would be nice that he should have 179 00:13:58,381 --> 00:14:01,477 Scottish dancing in the evening. 180 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:04,737 Now mind you, this was quite an ordinary house, 181 00:14:04,862 --> 00:14:08,046 but we had rather a lot of room and a large hall, 182 00:14:08,171 --> 00:14:10,300 and so we bought 183 00:14:10,654 --> 00:14:12,536 some records, and 184 00:14:12,934 --> 00:14:15,437 a book about what to do, 185 00:14:16,069 --> 00:14:18,074 and Stephen took charge. 186 00:14:19,101 --> 00:14:22,973 And he insisted to put on a jacket and a tie. 187 00:14:23,495 --> 00:14:26,973 And then he was the master of the proceedings. 188 00:14:27,532 --> 00:14:29,902 And Stephen took it very seriously 189 00:14:30,027 --> 00:14:32,163 But then he liked dancing, you see. 190 00:14:35,681 --> 00:14:38,574 There were 4 physicists in my year. 191 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:41,281 Gordon Berry, 192 00:14:41,552 --> 00:14:43,122 Richard Bryath, 193 00:14:43,554 --> 00:14:45,284 Stephen 194 00:14:45,555 --> 00:14:46,876 myself. 195 00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:51,917 I first remember Stephen 196 00:14:52,090 --> 00:14:55,754 on the occasion when Gordon and I went up after dinner to his room, 197 00:14:55,926 --> 00:14:58,975 to try to find him. 198 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,365 And Stephen was up there 199 00:15:01,490 --> 00:15:03,896 with a crate of beer, 200 00:15:04,021 --> 00:15:06,262 slowly drinking his way through it. 201 00:15:07,155 --> 00:15:08,681 He was only 17, 202 00:15:08,806 --> 00:15:11,078 he couldn't legally go into a pub. 203 00:15:11,203 --> 00:15:14,228 He did come at Oxford ridiculously early. 204 00:15:18,975 --> 00:15:22,595 We used to have what we called a "gathering net". 205 00:15:24,007 --> 00:15:27,562 We used to organize that at beer parties and various things like that 206 00:15:27,687 --> 00:15:30,993 to gather under this cover as many freshman as we could get, you see 207 00:15:31,118 --> 00:15:32,880 get them to join the boat club. 208 00:15:33,658 --> 00:15:36,086 And that's how we collected him, you see. 209 00:15:42,832 --> 00:15:45,757 But the question, always, with Stephen, was 210 00:15:46,561 --> 00:15:49,061 "Should we make him the cox of the first 8," 211 00:15:49,186 --> 00:15:51,528 "or the second 8?", you see? 212 00:15:52,026 --> 00:15:55,362 Well, coxes can be adventurous. 213 00:15:55,487 --> 00:15:59,106 But some coxes can be very steady people, you see. 214 00:15:59,617 --> 00:16:02,773 He was rather an adventurous type. 215 00:16:04,543 --> 00:16:08,660 You never knew could what he was going to do when he went out with the crew. 216 00:16:14,124 --> 00:16:17,326 I think he used to bring his work there with him into the boat sometimes 217 00:16:17,501 --> 00:16:21,332 Some thinking here was going on... Different levels. 218 00:16:24,967 --> 00:16:29,131 We were asked to read a chapter, chapter 10 219 00:16:29,305 --> 00:16:32,227 in a book about electricity and magnetism 220 00:16:32,352 --> 00:16:33,842 by Bleaney & Bleaney, 221 00:16:33,967 --> 00:16:36,597 an unlikely combination of a husband and wife team. 222 00:16:37,070 --> 00:16:40,516 And at the end of that chapter there were 13 questions, 223 00:16:41,063 --> 00:16:43,644 all of them final honours questions. 224 00:16:44,084 --> 00:16:47,909 I discovered very rapidly that I couldn't do any of them. 225 00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:50,984 Richard and I worked together for the week, 226 00:16:51,255 --> 00:16:53,670 and we managed to do one a half questions, 227 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:55,720 which we felt very proud of. 228 00:16:55,845 --> 00:16:57,907 Gordon refused all assistance 229 00:16:58,178 --> 00:17:00,992 and managed to do one all by himself. 230 00:17:01,293 --> 00:17:04,186 Stephen, as always, hadn't even started. 231 00:17:04,311 --> 00:17:08,416 But the next morning, he went up to his rooms at 9 o'clock, 232 00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:12,883 and we came back about 12, maybe five past 12, 233 00:17:13,053 --> 00:17:16,835 and down came Stephen, we were in the college gateway, the lodge, 234 00:17:17,312 --> 00:17:20,880 "Ah, Hawking," I said, "how many have you managed to do then?" 235 00:17:21,005 --> 00:17:22,161 "Well," he said: 236 00:17:22,286 --> 00:17:24,890 "I've only had time to the first 10." 237 00:17:25,807 --> 00:17:27,910 I think at that point we realised 238 00:17:28,035 --> 00:17:30,528 that it's not just we weren't in the same street, 239 00:17:30,653 --> 00:17:33,106 we weren't on the same planet. 240 00:17:36,447 --> 00:17:41,452 I once calculated that I did about 1 000 hours work 241 00:17:41,771 --> 00:17:44,717 in the 3 years I was at Oxford. 242 00:17:45,286 --> 00:17:47,574 An average of one hour a day. 243 00:17:48,887 --> 00:17:51,479 I'm not proud of this lack of work. 244 00:17:51,763 --> 00:17:55,132 I'm just describing my attitude at the time. 245 00:17:56,476 --> 00:18:00,201 An attitude that nothing was worth making an effort for. 246 00:18:04,457 --> 00:18:07,892 He used to produce his work every week for tutorial 247 00:18:08,062 --> 00:18:13,808 and, as he never kept any notes, or papers or that sort of things, 248 00:18:14,113 --> 00:18:18,454 on leaving my room he would normally throw it in my wastepaper basket. 249 00:18:18,806 --> 00:18:22,336 And when he was with other undergraduates at the tutorial 250 00:18:22,461 --> 00:18:24,286 and they saw this happen 251 00:18:24,411 --> 00:18:26,881 they were absolutely horrified, 'cause they thought 252 00:18:27,006 --> 00:18:30,147 he did this work in probably half an hour, 253 00:18:30,272 --> 00:18:32,335 if they could have done it in a year 254 00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:34,405 they wouldn't have thrown it in the wastepaper basket, 255 00:18:34,418 --> 00:18:36,373 they would have put in a frame up on their walls. 256 00:18:38,131 --> 00:18:40,289 Because of my lack of work, 257 00:18:40,414 --> 00:18:43,531 I had planned to get through the final exam 258 00:18:43,657 --> 00:18:46,799 by doing problems in Theoretical Physics, 259 00:18:47,070 --> 00:18:52,000 and avoiding any questions that required factual knowledge. 260 00:18:53,491 --> 00:18:55,932 I didn't do very well. 261 00:18:57,310 --> 00:19:01,652 I was on the borderline between a first and a second class degree. 262 00:19:02,138 --> 00:19:06,608 And I had to be interviewed to determine which I should get. 263 00:19:08,161 --> 00:19:11,555 They asked me about my future plans. 264 00:19:12,724 --> 00:19:14,116 I replied 265 00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:18,578 if they gave me a first, I would go to Cambridge; 266 00:19:19,952 --> 00:19:22,267 if only got a second, 267 00:19:22,392 --> 00:19:24,704 I would stay in Oxford. 268 00:19:26,455 --> 00:19:29,260 They gave me a first. 269 00:19:35,363 --> 00:19:38,646 I drove Stephen and his young brother 270 00:19:38,771 --> 00:19:40,838 at Woburn Park. 271 00:19:41,606 --> 00:19:45,903 And he climbed a tree; he was testing himself out, I think, I didn't realize. 272 00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:49,730 And he did manage to climb the tree, and to go along a branch of it 273 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:51,409 and to get himself down. 274 00:19:52,256 --> 00:19:55,655 I think he began to notice that his hands 275 00:19:55,780 --> 00:19:57,955 were less useful than they had been, 276 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,996 but he didn't tell us. 277 00:20:02,269 --> 00:20:04,754 Uni has this square staircases 278 00:20:05,066 --> 00:20:07,249 which are round but they're square. 279 00:20:08,061 --> 00:20:10,797 He was just coming down from one of the rooms 280 00:20:10,922 --> 00:20:12,884 Steve actually fell on the stairs 281 00:20:13,009 --> 00:20:16,798 coming down the stairs and, he kind of bounced all the way down to the bottom. 282 00:20:17,769 --> 00:20:19,880 I don't know if he loss consciousness, 283 00:20:20,005 --> 00:20:22,304 but he lost his memory. 284 00:20:23,574 --> 00:20:27,141 We took him to either my room or someone's room. 285 00:20:27,412 --> 00:20:29,727 The first question of course was: "Who am I?" 286 00:20:29,853 --> 00:20:32,103 and we told him: "You're Steve Hawking." 287 00:20:32,278 --> 00:20:34,978 and a minute later or right away 288 00:20:35,103 --> 00:20:37,067 He would ask: "Who am I?" 289 00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:38,566 "Erh.. Steve Hawking." 290 00:20:38,691 --> 00:20:42,610 And then after a couple of minutes he remembered he was Steve Hawking. 291 00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:47,035 and we tell him: "Do you remember going down to the bar and having a drink" 292 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,460 "on Sunday night?" 293 00:20:48,585 --> 00:20:52,039 Or: "Do you remember rowing, coxing on the river on Monday?" 294 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:54,302 And his memory came back gradually, 295 00:20:54,303 --> 00:20:56,649 until he could remember the previous days events 296 00:20:56,666 --> 00:20:58,136 and then the previous hour. 297 00:20:58,261 --> 00:21:01,427 By the end of the 2 hours he could remember everything. 298 00:21:02,403 --> 00:21:04,423 The question was: "Well maybe, you know, 299 00:21:04,424 --> 00:21:06,884 you've lost some of your mind because of this" 300 00:21:07,256 --> 00:21:11,124 And so, Steve decided: "Well, I'll take the Mensa test." 301 00:21:11,249 --> 00:21:13,183 We said: "Of course you'll get into Mensa." 302 00:21:13,454 --> 00:21:15,382 But he came back delighted 303 00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:19,679 that he was able to get into Mensa, absolutely delighted. 304 00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:34,147 I felt that there were 2 areas of Theoretical Physics 305 00:21:34,272 --> 00:21:36,664 I might study at Cambridge 306 00:21:38,777 --> 00:21:43,201 One was Cosmology, the study of the very large. 307 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,714 the other was Elementary Particles, 308 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:52,405 the study of the very small. 309 00:21:54,153 --> 00:21:57,231 However, I thought that elementary particles 310 00:21:57,356 --> 00:21:58,977 were less attractive 311 00:21:59,103 --> 00:22:02,102 because there was no proper theory. 312 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:07,872 All they could do was arrange the particles in families, 313 00:22:08,199 --> 00:22:09,957 like in botany. 314 00:22:12,906 --> 00:22:18,490 In Cosmology, on the other hand, there was a well defined theory: 315 00:22:18,615 --> 00:22:22,103 Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. 316 00:22:28,992 --> 00:22:31,601 It was very a very cold year 317 00:22:33,571 --> 00:22:39,819 and the ice on Veralamian pond was, it was all frozen then. 318 00:22:40,351 --> 00:22:42,846 And we all went skating. 319 00:22:43,768 --> 00:22:46,479 And Stephen managed to skate fairly well. 320 00:22:46,604 --> 00:22:49,285 But then, he and I were closed together, 321 00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:53,286 he wasn't skating in a very advanced way, but nor was I as it comes to, 322 00:22:53,411 --> 00:22:55,586 and he fell 323 00:22:56,001 --> 00:22:57,954 and he couldn't get up. 324 00:22:59,409 --> 00:23:03,073 So I took him to caf� to warm up 325 00:23:03,198 --> 00:23:06,039 and he told me then all about it 326 00:23:07,098 --> 00:23:09,919 and it was diagnosed. 327 00:23:11,146 --> 00:23:13,916 I've insisted on going to see his doctor 328 00:23:14,041 --> 00:23:17,424 because, it seemed to me, however long you're going to live 329 00:23:17,549 --> 00:23:19,828 there's probably something someone can do about it. 330 00:23:19,953 --> 00:23:22,627 at least anyhow to make things easier for people. 331 00:23:22,968 --> 00:23:25,363 And, I won't mention the doctor's name, 332 00:23:25,488 --> 00:23:28,814 but I got to see him at the London Clinic. 333 00:23:29,311 --> 00:23:32,581 And he was rather surprised that I should bother to come down to see him. 334 00:23:32,706 --> 00:23:34,940 I mean after all I was only Stephen's mother! 335 00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:39,780 He was quite nice, I mean, he agreed to see me in a rather grand way. 336 00:23:39,906 --> 00:23:42,140 And he said: "Yes, it's all very sad, I mean, 337 00:23:42,265 --> 00:23:45,159 a brilliant young man, cut off in the prime of his." 338 00:23:45,331 --> 00:23:47,749 But of course I said: "What can we do?" 339 00:23:47,875 --> 00:23:49,325 "What can we do to, sort of... 340 00:23:49,326 --> 00:23:51,762 Can we give him... can we get physiotherapy?" 341 00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:55,371 "Can we get anything like that that will help in any way?" 342 00:23:55,496 --> 00:23:57,508 He said: "Well, actually no," 343 00:23:57,633 --> 00:24:00,588 "there's nothing to it", more or less. That's it. 344 00:24:04,166 --> 00:24:07,431 Shortly after my 21st birthday, 345 00:24:07,556 --> 00:24:10,527 I went into hospital for tests. 346 00:24:12,729 --> 00:24:15,426 They took a muscle sample from my arm, 347 00:24:15,551 --> 00:24:17,815 stuck electrodes into me, 348 00:24:17,986 --> 00:24:21,607 and injected some radio-opaque fluid into my spine 349 00:24:21,823 --> 00:24:24,932 and watched it going up and down with X-rays 350 00:24:25,058 --> 00:24:27,275 as they tilted the bed. 351 00:24:29,174 --> 00:24:32,439 I was diagnosed as having ALS 352 00:24:32,564 --> 00:24:35,582 Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis... 353 00:24:35,753 --> 00:24:40,137 or motor-neuron disease, as it is also known. 354 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,128 The doctors offered no cure 355 00:24:44,253 --> 00:24:47,597 and gave me 2 and a half years to live. 356 00:24:58,374 --> 00:25:00,681 I went into the graduates common room and 357 00:25:00,806 --> 00:25:03,897 looking really for someone to have lunch with 358 00:25:04,022 --> 00:25:06,973 and there was nobody around that I particularly wished to have lunch with 359 00:25:07,098 --> 00:25:08,912 and then learned about how Stephen walk through the door. 360 00:25:08,984 --> 00:25:12,603 Don't know what he was doing in Oxford either, I've certainly forgotten that. 361 00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:14,218 And so... 362 00:25:14,928 --> 00:25:18,286 Stephen generously went off to buy the drinks 363 00:25:18,411 --> 00:25:21,264 and brought them over, put them down on the table, 364 00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:25,063 and as he put his pint of beer down, he spewed it. 365 00:25:25,405 --> 00:25:27,677 And I sort of said, genially: 366 00:25:27,802 --> 00:25:31,086 "Ah, haven't you been drinking at this time of day?" 367 00:25:31,211 --> 00:25:35,430 and he then told me that he'd been in Edinburgh for 3 weeks 368 00:25:35,777 --> 00:25:39,283 and they'd done a whole series of tests 369 00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:42,668 and they decided what was wrong with him. 370 00:25:42,996 --> 00:25:46,626 And he told me very straight and flat 371 00:25:47,052 --> 00:25:52,154 that he was gradually going to lose the use of all of his body. 372 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:54,843 And that eventually 373 00:25:54,969 --> 00:25:59,667 only his heart and his lungs would still be operating, 374 00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:01,572 and his brain. 375 00:26:01,874 --> 00:26:05,122 And that they told him that, 376 00:26:05,247 --> 00:26:08,300 eventually, he would essentially have the body of a cabbage. 377 00:26:08,425 --> 00:26:11,755 but his mind would still be in perfect working order, 378 00:26:11,924 --> 00:26:15,546 and he would be unable to communicate with the rest of the world. 379 00:26:18,645 --> 00:26:22,744 My dreams at that time were rather disturbed. 380 00:26:23,951 --> 00:26:27,073 Before my condition had been diagnosed, 381 00:26:27,198 --> 00:26:30,001 I had been very bored with life. 382 00:26:31,428 --> 00:26:35,412 There had not seemed to be anything worth doing. 383 00:26:37,229 --> 00:26:40,370 But shortly after I came out of hospital, 384 00:26:40,495 --> 00:26:44,369 I dreamt that I was going to be executed. 385 00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:48,623 I suddenly realized that there were lots of worthwhile things 386 00:26:48,748 --> 00:26:50,141 I could do 387 00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:52,045 if I were retrieved. 388 00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:01,839 I knew perfectly well that he had no faith. 389 00:27:02,887 --> 00:27:08,257 And to me that made it more difficult, 390 00:27:08,435 --> 00:27:12,456 because you must ask yourself: "Why me? Why this?" 391 00:27:12,581 --> 00:27:14,142 "Why now?" 392 00:27:14,267 --> 00:27:16,551 But he just totally, 393 00:27:16,676 --> 00:27:18,023 flatly, accepted 394 00:27:18,148 --> 00:27:20,643 that this was what was going to happen to him. 395 00:27:20,768 --> 00:27:25,026 And as far as I can gather at that point he started to do some work. 396 00:27:26,796 --> 00:27:31,904 At first, there di not seem to be much time in working at my research, 397 00:27:32,081 --> 00:27:35,120 because I didn't expect to live long enough 398 00:27:35,245 --> 00:27:37,739 to finish my Ph.D. 399 00:27:39,088 --> 00:27:41,712 However, as time went by, 400 00:27:41,837 --> 00:27:44,596 the disease seemed to slow down. 401 00:27:46,125 --> 00:27:49,496 I began to understand General Relativity 402 00:27:49,621 --> 00:27:52,549 and make progress with my work. 403 00:27:54,097 --> 00:27:56,686 But what really made a difference was 404 00:27:56,811 --> 00:28:00,686 I got engaged to a girl called Jane Wilde. 405 00:28:02,546 --> 00:28:05,536 This gave me something to live for, 406 00:28:05,661 --> 00:28:08,588 but it also meant that I had to get a job 407 00:28:08,713 --> 00:28:11,112 if we were to get married. 408 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,097 Stephen was already ill, Jane knew it. 409 00:28:16,417 --> 00:28:19,700 And it was another instance of Stephen's luck. 410 00:28:19,825 --> 00:28:23,330 Meeting the right person at the right time, 411 00:28:23,455 --> 00:28:25,152 because Jane... 412 00:28:25,277 --> 00:28:28,545 Stephen was very very badly depressed. 413 00:28:28,670 --> 00:28:30,557 And... 414 00:28:30,683 --> 00:28:33,047 he wasn't really very much inclined to go on with his work, I mean, 415 00:28:33,172 --> 00:28:36,381 you're told you got 2 and a half years, what can you do in that time? 416 00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:40,889 But meeting Jane, really put him on his metal, 417 00:28:41,014 --> 00:28:42,889 And he started to work. 418 00:28:45,381 --> 00:28:49,819 I wanted to understand how the Universe began. 419 00:28:51,846 --> 00:28:54,862 Einstein's theory of General Relativity 420 00:28:54,987 --> 00:28:58,631 showed that the Universe was expanding. 421 00:28:59,409 --> 00:29:02,954 But there was no answer to the crucial question: 422 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,382 "Must there have been a Big Bang?" 423 00:29:05,719 --> 00:29:08,422 "A beginning to time?" 424 00:29:09,632 --> 00:29:12,631 Then, in my 3rd year at Cambridge 425 00:29:12,967 --> 00:29:18,505 Roger Penrose made his discovery about the death of stars. 426 00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:23,641 I remember talking to this friend, Ivor Robinson, 427 00:29:23,766 --> 00:29:26,826 and we were having some very animated conversation. 428 00:29:27,145 --> 00:29:30,607 and then we had to cross the road, 429 00:29:30,775 --> 00:29:33,783 and as we crossed the road of course the conversation stopped, and then 430 00:29:33,784 --> 00:29:38,105 we got to the other side, well evidently I had some idea in crossing the road 431 00:29:38,114 --> 00:29:39,626 but then the conversation started up 432 00:29:39,651 --> 00:29:42,478 and it got completely blotted out of my mind. 433 00:29:42,603 --> 00:29:46,709 And it was only later, after my friends had gone home. 434 00:29:46,834 --> 00:29:49,142 and I began 435 00:29:49,267 --> 00:29:53,458 having this strange feeling of [?]elation, it feeling wonderful. 436 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:57,196 And I couldn't figure out why on earth I should feel like that, 437 00:29:57,321 --> 00:29:59,128 so I went back over the day, thinking all possible 438 00:29:59,141 --> 00:30:00,959 things which might have contributed to such a feeling, 439 00:30:01,136 --> 00:30:03,594 and then gradually I unearthed 440 00:30:03,719 --> 00:30:06,217 this thought which I had while crossing the street. 441 00:30:06,808 --> 00:30:09,477 Penrose announced this result, that 442 00:30:09,602 --> 00:30:12,070 when stars collapse indefinitely 443 00:30:12,196 --> 00:30:14,305 they will become singular 444 00:30:14,481 --> 00:30:18,055 as long as certain very broad conditions are satisfied 445 00:30:18,181 --> 00:30:20,487 that every body would have regarded as reasonable. 446 00:30:20,755 --> 00:30:23,101 and I remember Stephen Hawking, 447 00:30:23,226 --> 00:30:26,172 who was then approaching his 3rd year as a research student, saying: 448 00:30:26,297 --> 00:30:28,363 "What, very interesting results," 449 00:30:28,488 --> 00:30:30,692 "I wonder wether they could be adapted" 450 00:30:30,817 --> 00:30:33,301 "to understand the origin of the Universe." 451 00:30:33,698 --> 00:30:35,645 and what he had in mind, you see, 452 00:30:35,770 --> 00:30:39,347 was that if, just mentally, you reverse the sense of time, 453 00:30:39,472 --> 00:30:41,588 you can think of the expanding universe 454 00:30:41,713 --> 00:30:45,920 as a collapsing system, it's a bit like a giant, a very giant star collapsing 455 00:30:46,952 --> 00:30:50,429 Roger Penrose proved that a dying star 456 00:30:50,555 --> 00:30:53,279 collapsing under its own gravity 457 00:30:53,404 --> 00:30:56,650 eventually shrinks to a singularity, 458 00:30:57,534 --> 00:31:01,492 a point of infinite density and zero size. 459 00:31:03,905 --> 00:31:07,979 I realized that if I reversed the direction of time, 460 00:31:08,369 --> 00:31:11,600 so that the collapse become an expansion, 461 00:31:11,894 --> 00:31:13,653 I could prove 462 00:31:13,924 --> 00:31:16,316 that the Universe had a beginning. 463 00:31:19,423 --> 00:31:21,193 But my proof, 464 00:31:21,318 --> 00:31:24,955 based on Einstein's theory of General Relativity, 465 00:31:25,292 --> 00:31:28,668 also showed that we cannot understand 466 00:31:28,939 --> 00:31:31,068 how the universe began, 467 00:31:31,938 --> 00:31:36,219 because it showed that all scientific theories, 468 00:31:36,345 --> 00:31:39,733 including General Relativity itself, 469 00:31:39,858 --> 00:31:43,393 break down at the beginning of the Universe. 470 00:31:55,279 --> 00:32:00,096 We had this meeting at the Institute of Space Physics in New York. 471 00:32:00,676 --> 00:32:03,463 I said: "Before we reach a final conclusion," 472 00:32:03,588 --> 00:32:06,022 "we ought to throw into the pot" 473 00:32:06,147 --> 00:32:07,909 "still another object:" 474 00:32:08,034 --> 00:32:12,133 "a gravitationally completely collapsed object." 475 00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:14,839 Well, after you've used the phrase: 476 00:32:14,964 --> 00:32:18,299 "a gravitationally completely collapsed object" 477 00:32:18,424 --> 00:32:19,745 ten times, 478 00:32:19,870 --> 00:32:22,793 you conclude you've get to get a better name, 479 00:32:22,918 --> 00:32:27,555 so that's when I switched to the word 'black hole'. 480 00:32:28,187 --> 00:32:31,427 The word 'black hole', which John Miller coined, suddenly caught on. 481 00:32:31,553 --> 00:32:33,735 Everybody adopted it 482 00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:37,301 and from then on people around the world, in Moscow, 483 00:32:38,573 --> 00:32:42,079 in America, in England and elsewhere, 484 00:32:42,204 --> 00:32:45,412 could know they were speaking about the same thing. 485 00:32:45,537 --> 00:32:49,813 And not only that, but suddenly the hole range of concept's 486 00:32:49,938 --> 00:32:53,386 got through to the general public, and even science fiction writers 487 00:32:53,511 --> 00:32:56,582 all of a sudden could talk about it. 488 00:32:58,012 --> 00:32:59,964 Tonight, my friends, 489 00:33:00,638 --> 00:33:06,306 We stand on the break of a feat unparalleled in space exploration. 490 00:33:07,597 --> 00:33:12,344 If the data in my returning probe ship matches my computerized calculations, 491 00:33:12,469 --> 00:33:16,236 I will travel where no man has dared to go. 492 00:33:17,233 --> 00:33:19,096 Into the black hole? 493 00:33:19,662 --> 00:33:20,940 In... 494 00:33:22,404 --> 00:33:23,815 Through... 495 00:33:25,186 --> 00:33:26,747 And behind! 496 00:33:29,001 --> 00:33:30,731 Why that's crazy! 497 00:33:32,028 --> 00:33:33,625 Ah! Impossible! 498 00:33:36,377 --> 00:33:38,872 As a massive star contracts, 499 00:33:38,998 --> 00:33:41,395 its gravity becomes so strong 500 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,535 that light can no longer escape. 501 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:49,646 The region from which nothing can escape 502 00:33:49,771 --> 00:33:51,811 is called a 'black hole' 503 00:33:51,936 --> 00:33:55,556 and its boundary is called the 'event horizon'. 504 00:33:58,092 --> 00:34:00,754 One might say of the event horizon 505 00:34:00,879 --> 00:34:03,852 what Dante said of the entrance to Hell: 506 00:34:05,435 --> 00:34:09,012 "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." 507 00:34:13,965 --> 00:34:17,801 I was once asked to actually be an adjudicator 508 00:34:18,457 --> 00:34:22,343 on an essay of which the subject was: 509 00:34:22,468 --> 00:34:25,200 "How to fall into a black hole and live" 510 00:34:25,325 --> 00:34:27,206 Now, the problem I had was 511 00:34:27,331 --> 00:34:30,255 that I wouldn't know how to give out the prize, 512 00:34:30,381 --> 00:34:34,007 because if I said: "Well, that looks like a really good essay", 513 00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:37,278 the only real way of showing that this was right 514 00:34:37,403 --> 00:34:40,937 was to actually follow it, to do the experiment of fall in, 515 00:34:41,062 --> 00:34:43,961 but then having fallen in, 516 00:34:44,086 --> 00:34:46,625 also I would assume taking the person who wrote the essay with you, 517 00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:49,610 the question would be: "How do you tell the rest of the world?" 518 00:34:49,776 --> 00:34:52,418 Do you take the prize in with you 519 00:34:52,543 --> 00:34:55,441 that you'd give to him, and what do they do with it when do when get to the center? 520 00:34:56,308 --> 00:34:57,869 Believe me 521 00:34:58,562 --> 00:35:01,738 I've been waiting a long time for someone like you 522 00:35:02,009 --> 00:35:03,498 to record this moment. 523 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:05,033 Thank you, doctor. 524 00:35:06,458 --> 00:35:08,019 Then, I'm ready. 525 00:35:09,563 --> 00:35:11,248 Ready to embark 526 00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:13,495 on man's greatest journey. 527 00:35:13,674 --> 00:35:15,363 Certainly his riskiest. 528 00:35:16,303 --> 00:35:18,758 The risk is incidental 529 00:35:18,883 --> 00:35:20,965 compared to the possibility to possess 530 00:35:21,236 --> 00:35:23,182 the great truth of the unknown. 531 00:35:23,308 --> 00:35:24,223 There, 532 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:30,180 long cherished laws of nature simply do not apply. 533 00:35:30,741 --> 00:35:32,475 They vanish. 534 00:35:33,463 --> 00:35:35,686 And life? 535 00:35:37,118 --> 00:35:38,449 Life? 536 00:35:41,366 --> 00:35:43,485 Life forever. 537 00:36:08,147 --> 00:36:10,578 If you were watching an astronaut 538 00:36:10,703 --> 00:36:13,879 fool hardly enough to jump into a black hole, 539 00:36:14,004 --> 00:36:18,340 at some time on his watch, say 12 o'clock, 540 00:36:18,754 --> 00:36:21,363 he will cross the event horizon 541 00:36:21,694 --> 00:36:24,167 and enter the black hole. 542 00:36:25,623 --> 00:36:28,177 But no matter how long you waited, 543 00:36:28,303 --> 00:36:32,615 you would never see the astronaut's watch reach 12 o'clock. 544 00:36:34,765 --> 00:36:37,712 Instead, each second on the watch 545 00:36:37,837 --> 00:36:39,929 would appear to take longer and longer 546 00:36:40,054 --> 00:36:44,844 until the last second before midnight would take forever. 547 00:36:46,555 --> 00:36:49,687 Thus, by jumping into a black hole, 548 00:36:49,812 --> 00:36:53,425 one could ensure that one's image lasted forever. 549 00:36:55,077 --> 00:36:57,969 But the picture would fade very rapidly 550 00:36:58,094 --> 00:37:02,132 and grow so dim that no one could see it. 551 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,264 When somebody disappears into the black hole 552 00:37:08,389 --> 00:37:13,198 as seen from the outside, you... it looks like time actually slows down. 553 00:37:13,367 --> 00:37:18,243 and the person becomes... who's moving or at least he thinks he's moving 554 00:37:18,414 --> 00:37:21,176 and talking in his spaceship at a normal rate, 555 00:37:21,302 --> 00:37:24,198 seems to slow down and ends up by being frozen 556 00:37:24,323 --> 00:37:26,171 in a particular position 557 00:37:26,296 --> 00:37:30,132 as seen from somebody watching from the outside, 558 00:37:30,257 --> 00:37:33,295 and as seen from the outside you never see what happens after that. 559 00:37:39,938 --> 00:37:43,262 The astronaut wouldn't notice anything special 560 00:37:43,533 --> 00:37:46,153 when his watch reached midnight 561 00:37:46,472 --> 00:37:49,031 and he crossed the event horizon 562 00:37:49,156 --> 00:37:51,269 into the black hole. 563 00:37:52,919 --> 00:37:57,087 Until of course he approached the singularity 564 00:37:57,212 --> 00:37:59,677 and was crushed into spaghetti. 565 00:38:06,254 --> 00:38:08,774 One can fall though this event horizon 566 00:38:08,899 --> 00:38:11,525 without feeling anything, without noticing it. 567 00:38:12,085 --> 00:38:15,700 After about a week of falling, one begins to feel 568 00:38:15,825 --> 00:38:20,257 a pinch, and one extends longer and longer and gets slightly thinner 569 00:38:20,795 --> 00:38:23,954 and of course one begins to get squeezed, 570 00:38:24,477 --> 00:38:27,563 until one gets very long and very thin 571 00:38:27,688 --> 00:38:29,358 and rather nasty. 572 00:38:29,484 --> 00:38:32,584 By the end of two weeks one's fallen right into the center 573 00:38:32,709 --> 00:38:34,309 and one is of course dead. 574 00:38:35,248 --> 00:38:37,705 Before you lose sight of the outer world, 575 00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:39,979 you would see things happening 576 00:38:40,105 --> 00:38:41,929 and you would see them at a greater rate 577 00:38:42,054 --> 00:38:43,943 so that it would look like a firework display. 578 00:38:44,464 --> 00:38:47,409 And the frustration would be that, although you would be able 579 00:38:47,535 --> 00:38:49,335 to see everything that happens in the future, 580 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:51,829 it would be going so fast from the scientific point of view, 581 00:38:51,954 --> 00:38:53,668 you would have no time to analyze it, 582 00:38:53,793 --> 00:38:56,201 you wouldn't be able to take it in. 583 00:38:56,379 --> 00:38:58,818 And eventually things would be going so fast 584 00:38:58,943 --> 00:39:01,595 and it would be so explosive that you yourself 585 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:05,170 would be destroyed by the explosion and that would be the end. 586 00:39:05,295 --> 00:39:08,914 But it would be a very exciting way to end one's life. 587 00:39:09,374 --> 00:39:12,923 It would be the way I would choose if I had the choice. 588 00:39:15,619 --> 00:39:18,570 In the long history of the Universe, 589 00:39:18,871 --> 00:39:22,557 many stars must have burned up their nuclear fuel 590 00:39:22,736 --> 00:39:25,091 and collapsed in on themselves. 591 00:39:27,327 --> 00:39:30,119 The number of black holes may be greater 592 00:39:30,244 --> 00:39:32,492 than the number of visible stars, 593 00:39:32,617 --> 00:39:35,510 which totals about a hundred thousand million 594 00:39:35,635 --> 00:39:38,100 in our galaxy alone. 595 00:39:39,817 --> 00:39:41,929 We also have evidence 596 00:39:42,054 --> 00:39:45,376 that there is a very large black hole 597 00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:48,585 at the centre of our own galaxy. 598 00:39:55,113 --> 00:39:56,586 Friends ask me: 599 00:39:56,711 --> 00:39:59,915 "Well, if a black hole is black, how can you see it?" 600 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,925 And I say: "Have you have you ever been to a ball?" 601 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:10,080 "Have you ever watched the young man dressed in their black evening tuxedos" 602 00:40:10,205 --> 00:40:12,852 "and the girls in their white dresses, 603 00:40:12,865 --> 00:40:15,523 whirling around, held in each other's arms?" 604 00:40:15,701 --> 00:40:19,970 "And the lights turn low, and all you can see is the girls." 605 00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:23,559 Well, the girl is the ordinary star 606 00:40:23,684 --> 00:40:26,669 and the boy is the black hole. 607 00:40:26,837 --> 00:40:30,708 You can't see the black hole any more that you can see the boy, 608 00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:32,825 but the girl going around 609 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:36,682 gives you convincing evidence there must be something there, 610 00:40:36,807 --> 00:40:38,634 holding her in orbit. 611 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:45,720 One evening, shortly after the birth of my daughter, Lucy, 612 00:40:45,845 --> 00:40:50,855 I started thinking about black holes as I was getting into bed. 613 00:40:53,371 --> 00:40:57,240 My disability made this a rather slow process, 614 00:40:57,365 --> 00:40:59,959 so I had plenty of time. 615 00:41:01,326 --> 00:41:03,742 Suddenly, I realized 616 00:41:03,913 --> 00:41:06,322 that the area of the event horizon 617 00:41:06,447 --> 00:41:09,197 must always increase with time. 618 00:41:11,504 --> 00:41:14,957 The increase in the area of the event horizon 619 00:41:15,228 --> 00:41:18,246 was reminiscent of a quantity called entropy, 620 00:41:18,371 --> 00:41:21,905 which measures the degree of disorder of a system. 621 00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:25,953 It is a matter of common experience 622 00:41:26,078 --> 00:41:29,427 that disorder tends to increase with time 623 00:41:29,552 --> 00:41:31,975 if things are left at themselves. 624 00:41:35,957 --> 00:41:39,700 Jacob Bekenstein came in at the office one day. 625 00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:44,394 "Jakob," I said, "it always troubles me:" 626 00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:48,069 "when I put a hot tea cup next to a cold tea cup, I've increased," 627 00:41:48,195 --> 00:41:51,685 "by letting heat flow from one to the other," 628 00:41:51,810 --> 00:41:54,222 "the amount of disorder in the Universe." 629 00:41:54,347 --> 00:41:57,530 "But Jakob, if a black hole swirls by," 630 00:41:57,655 --> 00:42:00,861 "and I drop both tea cups into this," 631 00:42:01,252 --> 00:42:04,802 "I can seal the evidence of my crime, have I not?" 632 00:42:07,375 --> 00:42:10,240 Bekenstein's a man of great integrity 633 00:42:10,366 --> 00:42:13,522 and he looked troubled, and he came back to me later 634 00:42:13,648 --> 00:42:18,330 and he said: "No, you have not concealed the evidence of your crime." 635 00:42:18,502 --> 00:42:22,394 "The black hole records what's happened to you." 636 00:42:23,376 --> 00:42:26,146 Stephen Hawking read the paper 637 00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:29,677 in which Bekenstein announced his result 638 00:42:29,996 --> 00:42:31,894 and thought it was preposterous 639 00:42:32,019 --> 00:42:35,036 and he decided to prove that he was wrong. 640 00:42:38,757 --> 00:42:41,863 My discoveries led Jacob Bekenstein 641 00:42:41,988 --> 00:42:45,003 to suggest that the area of the event horizon 642 00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:49,039 actually was the entropy of the black hole. 643 00:42:50,416 --> 00:42:55,262 But there was one fatal flaw in Bekenstein's idea: 644 00:42:56,503 --> 00:42:58,970 if black holes have an entropy, 645 00:42:59,095 --> 00:43:01,639 they ought to have a temperature. 646 00:43:03,998 --> 00:43:08,684 And if they have a temperature, they ought to give off radiation. 647 00:43:10,810 --> 00:43:13,388 But how could they give off radiation 648 00:43:13,513 --> 00:43:16,685 if nothing can escape from a black hole? 649 00:43:20,685 --> 00:43:25,046 As it turned out, Bekenstein was basically correct, 650 00:43:25,171 --> 00:43:28,196 thought in a manner far more surprising 651 00:43:28,321 --> 00:43:32,187 than he, or anyone else, had expected. 652 00:43:36,729 --> 00:43:39,373 As he gradually lost the use of his hands, 653 00:43:39,498 --> 00:43:43,400 he had to start developing... 654 00:43:43,526 --> 00:43:46,977 carefully choosing research projects 655 00:43:47,147 --> 00:43:50,471 that could be tackled and solved 656 00:43:50,596 --> 00:43:54,821 through geometrical arguments that he could do pictorially in his head. 657 00:43:54,946 --> 00:43:57,261 and he developed a very powerful set of tools 658 00:43:57,386 --> 00:43:59,275 that nobody else really had 659 00:43:59,936 --> 00:44:03,038 so in some sense, when you lose one set of tools 660 00:44:03,163 --> 00:44:04,788 you may develop other tools, 661 00:44:04,913 --> 00:44:08,862 but to get new tools on a minimal to different kind of problems in your tools 662 00:44:08,987 --> 00:44:11,996 and if you're the only master in the world of this new tools, 663 00:44:12,121 --> 00:44:13,756 that means certain kinds of problems 664 00:44:13,881 --> 00:44:15,810 you can solve and nobody else can. 665 00:44:17,551 --> 00:44:23,025 My work up to 1973 was in General Relativity 666 00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:26,786 and was summarized in a book which I wrote with George Ellis 667 00:44:26,911 --> 00:44:30,599 called "The large scale structure of space-time". 668 00:44:32,845 --> 00:44:37,381 Even then, it was difficult for me to write things down. 669 00:44:39,034 --> 00:44:42,565 So I tended to think in pictures and diagrams 670 00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:45,026 that I could visualize in my head. 671 00:45:20,011 --> 00:45:22,488 I remember visiting Stephen and Jane 672 00:45:22,613 --> 00:45:24,564 at their home in Cambridge. 673 00:45:25,372 --> 00:45:27,731 After supper in the evening 674 00:45:27,856 --> 00:45:30,991 when it was time for Stephen to go to bed 675 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:33,717 Jane insisted and Stephen acquiesced, 676 00:45:33,842 --> 00:45:37,070 I guess this was standard, that Stephen make his way up. 677 00:45:37,195 --> 00:45:40,537 I forgot whether there's one flight of stairs or two flight of stairs, alone 678 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:43,283 and this was at a period that he can no longer walk. 679 00:45:43,408 --> 00:45:45,967 the way he got up the stairs was he grabbed 680 00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:48,550 hold of the pillars that support the banister 681 00:45:48,675 --> 00:45:51,120 and pulled him up with the strength of his own, pulled 682 00:45:51,133 --> 00:45:53,589 himself up the stairs by the strength of his own arms, 683 00:45:53,860 --> 00:45:58,474 dragging himself up from the ground floor up to the second storey 684 00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,266 in a long, arduous effort. 685 00:46:03,395 --> 00:46:08,736 Jane explained that this was an important part of his physical therapy 686 00:46:08,861 --> 00:46:13,071 to maintain his coordination 687 00:46:13,197 --> 00:46:15,776 and strength as long as possible. 688 00:46:16,608 --> 00:46:18,971 at first, it was sort of hard renting[?] to watch 689 00:46:19,096 --> 00:46:22,081 what appeared to be the agony of pulling up the stairs 690 00:46:22,206 --> 00:46:25,786 until I understood it was just part of life 691 00:46:26,057 --> 00:46:28,961 pulling himself up the stairs like that. 692 00:46:32,844 --> 00:46:37,459 General Relativity is what is called a classical theory. 693 00:46:39,298 --> 00:46:40,382 It predicts 694 00:46:40,653 --> 00:46:44,013 a single definite path for each particle. 695 00:46:45,697 --> 00:46:48,287 But according to quantum mechanics, 696 00:46:48,412 --> 00:46:51,979 there is an element of chance or uncertainty. 697 00:46:54,528 --> 00:47:00,454 A particle does not have just a single path through space and time. 698 00:47:02,096 --> 00:47:05,785 Instead, there is an uncertainty principle 699 00:47:05,955 --> 00:47:11,113 according to which both the exact position and velocity of the particle 700 00:47:11,238 --> 00:47:13,412 can never be known. 701 00:47:20,201 --> 00:47:22,094 I began investigating 702 00:47:22,219 --> 00:47:25,222 the effect of quantum mechanics might have 703 00:47:25,347 --> 00:47:28,148 on particles near a black hole. 704 00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:29,886 I found 705 00:47:30,158 --> 00:47:33,512 that particles could escape from a black hole, 706 00:47:33,917 --> 00:47:37,572 that black holes are not completely black. 707 00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:41,545 At first, I didn't believe it. 708 00:47:42,536 --> 00:47:48,543 But when I redid the calculations, I couldn't get the effect to go away. 709 00:47:49,926 --> 00:47:53,746 I met martin Reese and he was shaking with excitement. 710 00:47:53,871 --> 00:47:56,200 And he said: "Have you heard, have you heard!" 711 00:47:56,325 --> 00:47:59,914 "What Stephen has discovered? Everything is different! everything is changed!" 712 00:48:00,966 --> 00:48:03,592 I was still unsure of my discovery 713 00:48:03,717 --> 00:48:06,920 so I only told a few colleagues. 714 00:48:07,625 --> 00:48:10,446 But word soon spread. 715 00:48:10,667 --> 00:48:14,177 Roger Penrose phoned up on my birthday. 716 00:48:15,557 --> 00:48:19,052 He was very excited and went on so long 717 00:48:19,177 --> 00:48:22,435 that my birthday dinner got quite cold. 718 00:48:24,152 --> 00:48:26,056 It was a great pity 719 00:48:26,181 --> 00:48:29,871 because it was goose, which I'm very fond of. 720 00:48:31,131 --> 00:48:34,738 To me it's a miracle, because it's a complicated and messy calculation. 721 00:48:35,009 --> 00:48:37,735 we can now do these things very much better 722 00:48:38,050 --> 00:48:40,250 and it's more transparent what happens. 723 00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:43,454 But out of this messy calculation, he showed that black holes 724 00:48:43,725 --> 00:48:45,922 aren't black. With this quanto-mechanical effect 725 00:48:46,047 --> 00:48:48,169 which was a residual radiation. 726 00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:50,294 Stephen came to a meeting 727 00:48:50,565 --> 00:48:52,030 and people were flabbergasted. 728 00:48:52,155 --> 00:48:54,755 I remember someone getting up and saying: "You must be wrong Stephen." 729 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,591 "I don't believe a word of it!" 730 00:48:56,862 --> 00:48:59,663 I once said that I was unhappy 731 00:48:59,788 --> 00:49:03,806 with the explanation given in terms of negative energy particles being created. 732 00:49:04,147 --> 00:49:06,868 But I feel this is part of the controversy of science. 733 00:49:06,993 --> 00:49:08,644 You must have the give and take. 734 00:49:08,769 --> 00:49:10,862 And I'm delighted to be able to be part of that. 735 00:49:10,987 --> 00:49:12,873 I mean, it's what makes it fun. 736 00:49:13,157 --> 00:49:16,031 You know, if you all sat down and said: "Oh, lovely!" 737 00:49:16,156 --> 00:49:18,535 when you do have niggling questions in your mind 738 00:49:18,661 --> 00:49:21,125 that's not doing a good service to science. 739 00:49:21,250 --> 00:49:24,105 But I was not antagonistic to it in any way, 740 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:27,286 except for that one time when I questioned. 741 00:49:29,073 --> 00:49:30,855 I finally convinced myself 742 00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:33,257 that black holes radiated 743 00:49:33,382 --> 00:49:37,011 when I found a mechanism through which this could happen. 744 00:49:39,179 --> 00:49:41,467 According to quantum mechanics, 745 00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:44,592 space is filled with virtual particles 746 00:49:44,717 --> 00:49:46,402 and anti-particles 747 00:49:46,527 --> 00:49:49,560 that are constantly materializing in pairs, 748 00:49:49,855 --> 00:49:52,940 separating, coming together again 749 00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:55,434 and annihilating each other. 750 00:49:58,479 --> 00:50:01,052 In the presence of a black hole, 751 00:50:01,177 --> 00:50:04,093 one member of a pair of virtual particles 752 00:50:04,218 --> 00:50:06,079 may fall into the hole, 753 00:50:06,204 --> 00:50:10,922 leaving the other member without a partner with which to annihilate. 754 00:50:12,688 --> 00:50:16,548 The forsaken particle appears to be radiation 755 00:50:16,673 --> 00:50:18,811 emitted bu the black hole. 756 00:50:23,021 --> 00:50:27,049 And so, black holes are not eternal. 757 00:50:29,463 --> 00:50:32,970 They evaporate away at an increasing rate 758 00:50:33,095 --> 00:50:37,165 until they vanish in a gigantic explosion. 759 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,523 Quantum mechanics has allowed particles and radiation 760 00:50:44,649 --> 00:50:47,186 to escape from the ultimate prison: 761 00:50:47,683 --> 00:50:49,298 a black hole. 762 00:50:52,279 --> 00:50:55,567 Einstein never accepted quantum mechanics 763 00:50:55,692 --> 00:50:59,036 because of its element of chance and uncertainty. 764 00:51:00,578 --> 00:51:04,254 He said: "God does not play dice". 765 00:51:05,636 --> 00:51:09,502 It seems that Einstein was doubly wrong. 766 00:51:12,078 --> 00:51:14,776 The quantum effects of black holes 767 00:51:14,901 --> 00:51:18,481 suggests that not only does God play dice, 768 00:51:18,606 --> 00:51:22,853 he sometimes throw them where they cannot be seen. 769 00:51:24,749 --> 00:51:26,227 He says himself that 770 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:32,626 he wouldn't have got where he is if he hadn't been ill. 771 00:51:32,751 --> 00:51:37,162 And I think that's quite possible, because it's like Johnson said, you know: 772 00:51:37,330 --> 00:51:41,541 "Knowledge to be hanged in the morning concentrates the mind wonderfully". 773 00:51:41,709 --> 00:51:44,496 And he has concentrated on this in a way 774 00:51:44,621 --> 00:51:46,498 that I don't think he would have done 775 00:51:46,623 --> 00:51:48,985 because he always took a great interest in a lot of things in life 776 00:51:49,110 --> 00:51:52,252 and I don't know if he would have applied himself in quite the same way 777 00:51:52,377 --> 00:51:54,776 if he'd been able to get around as is. 778 00:51:54,901 --> 00:51:56,470 So in a way... 779 00:51:56,921 --> 00:52:00,683 No, I can't think anyone's lucky of having an illness like that, even still, 780 00:52:00,852 --> 00:52:05,258 but it's bad less luck for him that it would be for some people, if you see what I mean, 781 00:52:05,383 --> 00:52:08,476 because he can so much live in his head. 782 00:52:09,081 --> 00:52:12,154 When I lived with the Hawking family I would usually get up around 783 00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:14,318 7h15 or 7h30, and 784 00:52:14,443 --> 00:52:18,072 take a shower and then read my bible some in the morning and pray. 785 00:52:18,197 --> 00:52:20,436 And then I would go down at 8h15 to get Stephen up. 786 00:52:20,561 --> 00:52:24,909 And then at breakfast I would often tell him what I'd been reading in the bible 787 00:52:25,035 --> 00:52:28,745 hoping that, you know, maybe this would eventually have some influence. 788 00:52:29,468 --> 00:52:32,456 So then we would get into work and usually we'd go and see 789 00:52:32,811 --> 00:52:37,069 if there were any scientific papers that people sent out and. 790 00:52:37,707 --> 00:52:40,688 I did discover that despite Hawking's great brains 791 00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:44,567 he reads quite slowly. I mean, I can read about twice as fast as him. 792 00:52:44,904 --> 00:52:48,115 But of course, the point is he would have to read to memory 793 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:52,017 because it would be very difficult for him to go back and access the thing. 794 00:52:52,288 --> 00:52:55,238 Whereas I can skim the paper rather quickly 795 00:52:55,363 --> 00:52:58,057 and see if there was anything interesting in it and if I wanted to work on it 796 00:52:58,182 --> 00:53:00,613 I can pick the thing up and look at it. 797 00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:04,675 Black hole radiation 798 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,704 has shown us that gravitational collapse 799 00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:10,755 is not as final as we once thought. 800 00:53:12,607 --> 00:53:15,908 If an astronaut falls into a black hole, 801 00:53:16,033 --> 00:53:19,376 he will be returned to the rest of the Universe 802 00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:21,874 in the form of radiation. 803 00:53:23,418 --> 00:53:25,298 Thus, in a sense, 804 00:53:25,423 --> 00:53:28,298 the astronaut will be recycled. 805 00:53:30,259 --> 00:53:34,265 However, it would be a poor sort of immortality 806 00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:38,704 because any personal concept of time would come to an end 807 00:53:38,829 --> 00:53:43,188 as he is torn apart inside a black hole. 808 00:53:46,236 --> 00:53:51,098 All that would survive would be his mass, or energy. 809 00:53:56,801 --> 00:53:59,584 One year the Hawkings took me along 810 00:53:59,709 --> 00:54:03,750 when we went to a cottage in Wales near the river Wye. 811 00:54:04,007 --> 00:54:06,513 And this cottage was up a hill 812 00:54:06,638 --> 00:54:09,208 and there was a bit of a 813 00:54:09,728 --> 00:54:13,207 paved, well, sidewalk that went up to the cottage 814 00:54:13,332 --> 00:54:15,437 which I had not been up. 815 00:54:15,562 --> 00:54:17,494 And of course I wanted to do it in the least 816 00:54:17,507 --> 00:54:19,449 number of trips that I could imagine, 817 00:54:19,574 --> 00:54:22,182 so we put Stephen's batteries under his chair, I mean 818 00:54:22,307 --> 00:54:23,801 his wheelchair has space for batteries, and 819 00:54:23,814 --> 00:54:25,318 put extra batteries under there, which we... 820 00:54:25,443 --> 00:54:27,920 Stephen didn't realize he had... that I put under there, 821 00:54:28,045 --> 00:54:30,356 he didn't realize his chair was as heavily laden as possible. 822 00:54:30,962 --> 00:54:34,274 So Stephen was quite a bit ahead of me and then he was turning the corner to go on to... 823 00:54:34,399 --> 00:54:37,371 around to his house, but that was on a slope and... 824 00:54:37,497 --> 00:54:39,569 So I looked up and I noticed 825 00:54:39,694 --> 00:54:41,770 Stephen's wheelchair was slowly tipping backward. 826 00:54:41,895 --> 00:54:45,201 And of course that was about 10 meters away. 827 00:54:46,102 --> 00:54:47,894 I tried to roll up there 828 00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:50,150 but of course I wasn't able to get there nearly rapidly enough 829 00:54:50,276 --> 00:54:53,031 before he toppled over backward into the bushes. 830 00:54:53,156 --> 00:54:56,173 And this was a bit of a shocking sight, 831 00:54:56,298 --> 00:54:58,788 to see this master of gravity getting overcome 832 00:54:58,801 --> 00:55:01,302 by the weak gravitational force of Earth! 833 00:55:02,698 --> 00:55:06,477 One of the worst things for me would be having people there all the time, 834 00:55:06,603 --> 00:55:09,760 never alone I reckon, really. 835 00:55:10,317 --> 00:55:12,747 And yet he finds things funny 836 00:55:12,872 --> 00:55:16,229 and he enjoys life and he goes dashing about all over the place. 837 00:55:16,528 --> 00:55:18,301 And I think this is tremendous, 838 00:55:18,426 --> 00:55:20,550 that this is the sort of courage I haven't got, 839 00:55:20,675 --> 00:55:22,620 that his father hadn't got. 840 00:55:22,745 --> 00:55:24,691 And we cannot but admire it, 841 00:55:24,816 --> 00:55:27,910 but I wonder how on earth he got it, really! 842 00:55:28,431 --> 00:55:31,365 There must have been 50 people there 843 00:55:31,490 --> 00:55:34,257 and I was standing off in a corner, sort of, 844 00:55:34,382 --> 00:55:38,484 watching quietly for a few minutes, relaxing. 845 00:55:38,609 --> 00:55:43,340 And Stephen was not far from me. Jane walked over to Stephen 846 00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:46,387 and looked at him and he was sitting with his head on his lap, 847 00:55:46,512 --> 00:55:48,996 like only Stephen can put his head in his lap, 848 00:55:49,121 --> 00:55:53,633 and Jane said to Stephen: "You look miserable Stephen!" 849 00:55:53,758 --> 00:55:54,962 Sit up straight!" 850 00:55:55,087 --> 00:55:57,069 "Some of your guests don't understand" 851 00:55:57,194 --> 00:56:00,132 "that you're sitting there thinking about physics and having a wonderful time," 852 00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:03,443 "it looks like you're in pain. Sit up straight and go talk to your guests." 853 00:56:05,652 --> 00:56:11,707 In 1979, I was elected Lucasian Professor of Mathematics. 854 00:56:13,739 --> 00:56:17,872 This is the same chair once held by Isaac Newton. 855 00:56:20,252 --> 00:56:21,919 They a have a big book 856 00:56:22,044 --> 00:56:26,462 which every university teaching officer is supposed to sign. 857 00:56:28,162 --> 00:56:31,976 After I had been Lucasian Professor for about a year 858 00:56:32,101 --> 00:56:35,400 they realized I had never signed. 859 00:56:36,676 --> 00:56:39,474 So they brought the book to my office 860 00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,425 and I signed it with some difficulty. 861 00:56:44,056 --> 00:56:47,925 That was the last time I signed my name. 862 00:56:59,184 --> 00:57:02,958 My interest in the origin and fate of the Universe 863 00:57:03,084 --> 00:57:06,084 was reawakened when I attended a conference 864 00:57:06,209 --> 00:57:08,840 on cosmology in the Vatican. 865 00:57:10,814 --> 00:57:15,091 Afterwards, we were granted an audience with the pope. 866 00:57:16,225 --> 00:57:21,516 He told us that it was all right to study the evolution of the Universe 867 00:57:21,689 --> 00:57:23,273 after the Big Bang, 868 00:57:24,497 --> 00:57:27,868 but we should not inquire into the Big Bang itself, 869 00:57:28,183 --> 00:57:31,095 because that was the moment of creation, 870 00:57:31,220 --> 00:57:33,951 and therefore, the work of God. 871 00:57:36,214 --> 00:57:39,225 I was glad that he did not know 872 00:57:39,351 --> 00:57:42,701 the subject of the talk I had just given: 873 00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:48,399 the possibility that the Universe had no beginning, 874 00:57:48,524 --> 00:57:51,035 no moment of creation. 875 00:57:56,651 --> 00:57:58,881 There were theories in the early 70s, in fact the first type 876 00:57:59,006 --> 00:58:00,308 of creation theories, 877 00:58:00,433 --> 00:58:02,454 where the people concerned started off with 878 00:58:02,579 --> 00:58:06,390 a fixed external space and time which for eternity was empty. 879 00:58:06,515 --> 00:58:09,642 Then suddenly, for some unknown reason, Universe nucleates 880 00:58:09,913 --> 00:58:12,611 in a point and then Bang! It blows apart. 881 00:58:12,737 --> 00:58:16,482 But the trouble is that when the space and time appear in the classical theory 882 00:58:16,753 --> 00:58:19,966 the actual point itself is a singular point in the mathematics. 883 00:58:20,091 --> 00:58:22,149 Mathematics breaks down, 884 00:58:22,274 --> 00:58:24,990 and so you cannot in fact use that to give you a creation theory. 885 00:58:26,796 --> 00:58:28,889 If one goes back in time, 886 00:58:29,014 --> 00:58:32,454 one comes to the Big Bang singularity, 887 00:58:32,629 --> 00:58:35,736 where then laws of Physics break down. 888 00:58:37,245 --> 00:58:40,029 But there's another direction of time 889 00:58:40,154 --> 00:58:41,968 that one can go in, 890 00:58:42,137 --> 00:58:44,594 which avoids the singularity. 891 00:58:46,351 --> 00:58:50,627 This is called the imaginary direction of time. 892 00:58:52,202 --> 00:58:54,206 In imaginary time, 893 00:58:54,331 --> 00:58:57,308 there need not be any singularities 894 00:58:57,485 --> 00:59:01,317 which form a beginning or end to time. 895 00:59:04,909 --> 00:59:07,959 When you come to imaginary time, you have this rather peculiar possibility 896 00:59:08,084 --> 00:59:10,117 of having a 'now', as it were, 897 00:59:10,242 --> 00:59:15,423 not necessarily having a sort of a chain of past moments. 898 00:59:15,549 --> 00:59:19,553 If we start to lay out the moments that run in backwards in time, as it were, 899 00:59:19,678 --> 00:59:22,459 then for a long time things work perfectly normally. 900 00:59:22,957 --> 00:59:25,485 But then as you begin to get further and further back towards 901 00:59:25,610 --> 00:59:28,725 what would be the origin point in a conventional real time picture 902 00:59:28,850 --> 00:59:31,806 you'd find that the nature of time changes, 903 00:59:31,932 --> 00:59:35,554 that the imaginary component becomes more and more prominent, 904 00:59:35,825 --> 00:59:39,055 and in the end, what ought be a singular point in the classical theory 905 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:40,358 just gets smoothed away 906 00:59:40,483 --> 00:59:43,102 and you have this beautiful picture, this bowls, 907 00:59:43,227 --> 00:59:45,215 where the creation of the Universe 908 00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:47,441 is pictured, as where we are now 909 00:59:47,712 --> 00:59:49,461 in a smooth sort of bowl past where there's no 910 00:59:49,474 --> 00:59:51,234 initial point, just a sort of smooth shape. 911 00:59:58,989 --> 01:00:02,253 So long as the Universe had a beginning, 912 01:00:02,378 --> 01:00:05,247 we could suppose it had a Creator. 913 01:00:07,090 --> 01:00:10,851 But if the Universe is completely self-contained, 914 01:00:11,163 --> 01:00:13,676 having no boundary or edge, 915 01:00:15,004 --> 01:00:18,428 it would neither be created nor destroyed, 916 01:00:19,547 --> 01:00:21,704 it would simply be. 917 01:00:24,241 --> 01:00:27,663 What place then, for a Creator? 918 01:00:31,961 --> 01:00:34,038 What we can really say is that the Universe is, 919 01:00:34,163 --> 01:00:36,235 because it is a self-consistent mathematical structure. 920 01:00:36,361 --> 01:00:39,547 There's no past because, unlike the creation point scenario 921 01:00:39,673 --> 01:00:41,481 there's nothing for it to 922 01:00:41,606 --> 01:00:44,743 So to say it's created from nothing is actually a bit of a misnomer, 923 01:00:44,868 --> 01:00:47,752 it's a misleading use of the word 'nothing'. 924 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,804 It's not just that there was empty space in which the Universe appeared, 925 01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:53,022 which you might call 'nothing', there was really nothing at all 926 01:00:53,147 --> 01:00:55,052 because there wasn't even a creation event, you see. 927 01:00:55,177 --> 01:00:59,327 The use of past tense in a verb becomes inappropriate in these theories. 928 01:00:59,452 --> 01:01:01,330 Unfortunately, tenses were set up 929 01:01:01,455 --> 01:01:03,255 when people believed in real time, of course, 930 01:01:03,380 --> 01:01:06,806 and we don't yet have a linguistic form to describe tenses in imaginary time. 931 01:01:07,604 --> 01:01:11,550 The word 'time' was not handed down from Heaven, 932 01:01:11,675 --> 01:01:13,698 as a gift from On High. 933 01:01:13,823 --> 01:01:18,877 The idea of 'time' is a word invented by man, 934 01:01:19,268 --> 01:01:23,174 and if it has puzzlements connected with it, whose fault is it? 935 01:01:23,299 --> 01:01:24,656 It's our fault! 936 01:01:27,891 --> 01:01:32,248 Where does the difference between the past and the future come from? 937 01:01:34,964 --> 01:01:36,850 The laws of science 938 01:01:36,975 --> 01:01:40,408 do not distinguish between the past and the future. 939 01:01:41,862 --> 01:01:46,542 Yet, there is a big difference between the past and future 940 01:01:46,667 --> 01:01:48,403 in ordinary life. 941 01:01:54,756 --> 01:01:58,197 You may see a cup of tea fall off a table 942 01:01:58,322 --> 01:02:01,259 and break into peaces on the floor, 943 01:02:01,610 --> 01:02:05,515 but you will never see a cup gather together 944 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,999 and jump back on the table. 945 01:02:10,838 --> 01:02:13,925 The increase of disorder or entropy 946 01:02:14,050 --> 01:02:17,534 is what distinguishes the past from the future, 947 01:02:17,711 --> 01:02:20,333 giving the direction to time. 948 01:02:26,634 --> 01:02:28,605 He fell ill in Switzerland. 949 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,217 When he came back, he was on a ventilator. 950 01:02:32,488 --> 01:02:35,509 Because he was on a ventilator, you've got a tube down you throat, 951 01:02:35,634 --> 01:02:37,890 and therefore you can't speak, just for that reason. 952 01:02:38,578 --> 01:02:41,170 For that period, which might have been a couple of months, 953 01:02:41,296 --> 01:02:46,027 I spent probably one in two nights, one in three nights, at the hospital, 954 01:02:46,196 --> 01:02:49,063 because when he was in hospital 955 01:02:49,467 --> 01:02:52,034 he couldn't communicate with the nurses. 956 01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,449 And it's not just like being seriously ill, 957 01:02:54,574 --> 01:02:56,454 but you're in a position where the nurses 958 01:02:56,579 --> 01:02:58,545 couldn't understand what Stephen wanted. 959 01:02:58,670 --> 01:03:01,202 If Stephen was uncomfortable, they couldn't tell why. 960 01:03:04,106 --> 01:03:06,181 Before I caught pneumonia, 961 01:03:06,306 --> 01:03:09,162 my speech had been getting more slurred 962 01:03:09,287 --> 01:03:12,832 so that only a few people who knew me well 963 01:03:12,957 --> 01:03:15,228 could understand me. 964 01:03:16,363 --> 01:03:19,122 But at least I could communicate. 965 01:03:21,217 --> 01:03:25,690 I wrote scientific papers by dictating to a secretary 966 01:03:25,857 --> 01:03:29,280 and I gave seminars through an interpreter. 967 01:03:29,867 --> 01:03:32,936 And then, a tracheotomy operation 968 01:03:33,061 --> 01:03:36,273 removed my ability to speak altogether. 969 01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:43,530 After a long time, well it seemed like along time, 970 01:03:43,655 --> 01:03:46,320 somebody came up with this brilliant gadget. 971 01:03:46,445 --> 01:03:48,974 They didn't have it in Cambridge Hospital, 972 01:03:49,099 --> 01:03:51,248 they got it from somewhere in London. 973 01:03:51,423 --> 01:03:55,336 This was high technology: how you can communicate with a person with no voice? 974 01:03:55,509 --> 01:03:59,162 It's a plastic piece of Perspex, about so big, 975 01:03:59,287 --> 01:04:01,599 and you've got the letters of the alphabet 976 01:04:01,612 --> 01:04:03,935 arranged like that and a hole in the middle. 977 01:04:04,060 --> 01:04:06,789 You hold it up between you and the other person 978 01:04:06,860 --> 01:04:08,291 and they look at a letter, 979 01:04:08,292 --> 01:04:10,582 and you can see of course which letter they're looking at, 980 01:04:10,617 --> 01:04:13,012 most of the time, sometimes you can't quite be sure, 981 01:04:13,137 --> 01:04:16,153 and so you get the patient to spell out what they wanted, you know, 982 01:04:16,321 --> 01:04:19,189 so each letter you have to look: speak out the A, 983 01:04:19,314 --> 01:04:22,610 and you say: "A?" You get it right. It's like a guessing game. 984 01:04:45,056 --> 01:04:48,706 Stephen wasn't going to accept that he wasn't going to speak again 985 01:04:49,133 --> 01:04:52,790 and he thought that he would be giving in by trying to find 986 01:04:52,915 --> 01:04:55,516 a method of communicating without speech. 987 01:04:56,340 --> 01:04:59,312 And I remember I went to him one evening, 988 01:04:59,846 --> 01:05:02,490 and this was the first time that he asked 989 01:05:02,616 --> 01:05:05,407 to be gotten out of bed to use a computer. 990 01:05:05,533 --> 01:05:09,016 Sometimes, they were sitting him up so that he wasn't lying in the bed all the time, 991 01:05:09,141 --> 01:05:10,594 as you do with a patient, 992 01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:15,160 but this time, when I turned up, he asked the nurse could he be gotten out of bed 993 01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:18,912 so he could use the computer, and he did. 994 01:05:19,037 --> 01:05:22,298 I remember the first thing he typed in there, after saying 'hello', 995 01:05:22,423 --> 01:05:24,937 -Stephen's always being very polite about things like that- 996 01:05:25,469 --> 01:05:29,256 was: "Will you help me finish my book?" 997 01:05:34,926 --> 01:05:39,265 A computer expert in California heard of my plight 998 01:05:39,522 --> 01:05:43,949 and sent me a computer program called Equalizer. 999 01:05:46,133 --> 01:05:48,860 This allowed me to select words 1000 01:05:48,985 --> 01:05:51,753 from a series of menus on a screen 1001 01:05:52,030 --> 01:05:54,994 by pressing a switch in my hand. 1002 01:05:58,821 --> 01:06:03,139 These words could then be sent to a speech synthesizer 1003 01:06:03,264 --> 01:06:05,553 attached to my wheelchair. 1004 01:06:07,945 --> 01:06:09,826 Much to my surprise, 1005 01:06:09,951 --> 01:06:12,772 I found I was able to communicate 1006 01:06:12,897 --> 01:06:14,884 much better than before. 1007 01:06:18,613 --> 01:06:21,473 When eventually he went home from hospital, 1008 01:06:21,498 --> 01:06:23,499 and he was told he needed 24 hour nursing, 1009 01:06:23,524 --> 01:06:26,588 and everyone was saying: "Well, how is he gonna go in and do work." 1010 01:06:26,613 --> 01:06:30,574 "Is he going to trail around with a series of nurses after him working in the office?" 1011 01:06:30,699 --> 01:06:32,220 And of course he did! 1012 01:06:32,345 --> 01:06:36,120 I mean, they talked originally of him working at home, 1013 01:06:36,565 --> 01:06:38,819 which he wasn't happy with. 1014 01:06:40,561 --> 01:06:43,986 And so after a period of recuperation home 1015 01:06:44,111 --> 01:06:46,479 he just decided to go back into the office, 1016 01:06:46,751 --> 01:06:48,671 and he made the trip 1017 01:06:48,796 --> 01:06:52,671 from his house to the office which is, I don't know, half a mile, in his wheelchair, 1018 01:06:52,796 --> 01:06:54,728 And the nurses were walking along with him. 1019 01:06:54,853 --> 01:06:57,187 And this is at the time when he was still driving around 1020 01:06:57,312 --> 01:06:59,500 with a bag and a nasal drip[?]. 1021 01:06:59,625 --> 01:07:03,884 Going into the department, working, going back home. 1022 01:07:07,534 --> 01:07:09,264 I began to wonder 1023 01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:12,973 what would happen when the Universe stopped expanding 1024 01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:15,542 and began to contract. 1025 01:07:17,086 --> 01:07:22,071 Would we see broken cups gather themselves together off the floor 1026 01:07:22,196 --> 01:07:25,018 and jump back on to the table? 1027 01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,766 Would we be able to remember tomorrow's prices 1028 01:07:30,891 --> 01:07:33,765 and make a fortune off the stock market? 1029 01:07:36,251 --> 01:07:41,343 It seemed to me the Universe had to return to a smooth and ordered state 1030 01:07:41,470 --> 01:07:43,598 when it re-collapsed. 1031 01:07:46,278 --> 01:07:49,690 If this were so, time would go backwards 1032 01:07:49,815 --> 01:07:52,555 when the Universe began to collapse. 1033 01:07:54,804 --> 01:07:58,886 People in the contracting phase would live their lives backwards, 1034 01:07:59,011 --> 01:08:01,636 they would die before they were born 1035 01:08:01,761 --> 01:08:05,360 and get younger as the Universe got small again. 1036 01:08:06,487 --> 01:08:10,268 Eventually, they would return to the womb. 1037 01:08:13,712 --> 01:08:16,002 He gave me my first problem to do. 1038 01:08:16,747 --> 01:08:20,495 He asked me to look at this mathematical problem 1039 01:08:20,620 --> 01:08:22,452 and usually, when he gives a problem, 1040 01:08:22,577 --> 01:08:24,908 he has a good idea of what the answer should be. 1041 01:08:25,033 --> 01:08:26,769 And I went to look at it 1042 01:08:27,139 --> 01:08:30,253 and it took me a few months to understand what was it about 1043 01:08:30,378 --> 01:08:32,864 and I came back and I said: "Stephen I get this answer." 1044 01:08:32,989 --> 01:08:36,877 And he said to me: "No, that is not what I expected." 1045 01:08:37,002 --> 01:08:38,698 I said: "Stephen that's what I get." 1046 01:08:38,823 --> 01:08:40,981 And so I went to the blackboard, explained to him what it was. 1047 01:08:41,106 --> 01:08:43,652 He said: "Did you think about that particular case?" 1048 01:08:43,777 --> 01:08:44,975 I said: "Oh no I didn't!" 1049 01:08:45,662 --> 01:08:47,063 So I went back 1050 01:08:47,188 --> 01:08:49,921 I calculated what he talked to me about, 1051 01:08:50,046 --> 01:08:51,525 came back a few weeks after and I said: 1052 01:08:51,796 --> 01:08:54,213 "Stephen, I don't get this thing." 1053 01:08:54,214 --> 01:08:57,154 "I still get the same answer I had originally." 1054 01:08:57,511 --> 01:09:01,208 So he said to me: "No no no, this is not right," 1055 01:09:01,333 --> 01:09:03,328 "did you think about that?" "Oh no!" 1056 01:09:03,453 --> 01:09:05,121 "I'd forgotten about that particular case." 1057 01:09:05,392 --> 01:09:07,401 So I went back to the drawing board, 1058 01:09:07,526 --> 01:09:10,817 started calculating again. And again, get the same answer! 1059 01:09:10,942 --> 01:09:14,839 I went back to see Stephen, and this dragged on for about 2 or 3 months. 1060 01:09:16,447 --> 01:09:18,717 Finally he said to me: "Maybe," 1061 01:09:18,988 --> 01:09:21,283 "one of you approximations isn't valid." 1062 01:09:22,968 --> 01:09:25,543 So me and a colleague decided to do this thing with computers, 1063 01:09:26,518 --> 01:09:29,274 and than this takes a lot of time to write the programs 1064 01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:31,604 and to be sure the program was correct... 1065 01:09:31,875 --> 01:09:34,942 We get the answer and it was still the way that I said before and 1066 01:09:35,067 --> 01:09:36,918 not the way that Stephen has said, 1067 01:09:37,043 --> 01:09:39,653 so we went to see Stephen and we said: "You see? Again!" 1068 01:09:43,601 --> 01:09:45,633 I had make a mistake. 1069 01:09:47,896 --> 01:09:52,082 I had been using too simple a model of the Universe. 1070 01:09:54,338 --> 01:09:56,605 Time will not reverse direction 1071 01:09:56,731 --> 01:09:59,296 when the Universe begins to contract. 1072 01:10:02,837 --> 01:10:05,588 People will continue to get older, 1073 01:10:05,713 --> 01:10:09,860 so it is no good waiting until the universe re-collapses 1074 01:10:09,985 --> 01:10:12,086 to return to our youth. 1075 01:10:28,345 --> 01:10:31,076 Einstein once asked a question: 1076 01:10:31,201 --> 01:10:35,869 "How much choice did God have in constructing the Universe?" 1077 01:10:38,388 --> 01:10:42,934 If my proposal that the universe has no boundary is correct, 1078 01:10:43,272 --> 01:10:45,354 he had no freedom at all 1079 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,335 to choose how the Universe began. 1080 01:10:50,020 --> 01:10:52,488 He would only had had a freedom 1081 01:10:52,613 --> 01:10:55,635 to choose the laws the Universe obeyed. 1082 01:10:57,499 --> 01:11:01,936 This, however, may not have been all that much of a choice. 1083 01:11:04,113 --> 01:11:07,398 They may be well be only one unified theory 1084 01:11:07,574 --> 01:11:11,377 that allows for the existence of structures as complicated 1085 01:11:11,502 --> 01:11:13,134 as human beings, 1086 01:11:13,414 --> 01:11:16,768 who can investigate the laws of the Universe 1087 01:11:17,088 --> 01:11:19,821 and ask about the nature of God. 1088 01:11:28,167 --> 01:11:31,120 I don't know how clear-cut these experiments are, 1089 01:11:31,145 --> 01:11:34,971 but the experiments that have been done on, sort of, the timing of consciousness, 1090 01:11:35,344 --> 01:11:38,219 and they seem to lead to a very odd picture 1091 01:11:38,344 --> 01:11:41,283 which doesn't even quite make consistent sense. 1092 01:11:41,408 --> 01:11:44,196 Whether refinement of these experiments 1093 01:11:44,197 --> 01:11:46,498 might actually get rid of this kind of anomaly, I'm not sure, 1094 01:11:46,652 --> 01:11:50,484 but it does look a little as though there's something very odd about consciousness, 1095 01:11:50,609 --> 01:11:54,328 and somehow almost as though future affects the past in some way 1096 01:11:54,454 --> 01:11:56,277 over a very tiny limited scale 1097 01:11:56,402 --> 01:11:59,907 but something maybe of the order of a reasonable fraction of a second. 1098 01:12:00,647 --> 01:12:03,422 And there's no reason to believe 1099 01:12:03,765 --> 01:12:08,347 that one's conscious experience shouldn't be part of somebody else's 1100 01:12:08,472 --> 01:12:09,926 at some other stage, I mean. 1101 01:12:10,052 --> 01:12:13,456 I don't if it's fair to say what happens after one dies but you could... 1102 01:12:13,581 --> 01:12:15,945 it's a plausible picture 1103 01:12:16,304 --> 01:12:18,217 that you could be somebody else. 1104 01:12:18,389 --> 01:12:21,969 And that somebody else could be somebody who lived in the past, not in the future. 1105 01:12:25,335 --> 01:12:29,310 If there's only one possible unified theory 1106 01:12:29,435 --> 01:12:32,722 that is just a set of rules and equations, 1107 01:12:34,203 --> 01:12:37,734 what is it that breathes fire into the equations 1108 01:12:37,859 --> 01:12:41,356 and makes a Universe for them to describe? 1109 01:12:43,369 --> 01:12:47,664 Why does the Universe go to all the bother of existing? 1110 01:12:49,749 --> 01:12:52,618 Is the unified theory so compelling 1111 01:12:52,743 --> 01:12:55,795 that it brings about its own existence? 1112 01:12:56,949 --> 01:12:59,575 Or does it need a Creator? 1113 01:13:00,584 --> 01:13:04,382 And if so, who created Him? 1114 01:13:13,746 --> 01:13:16,861 I think I would say that the Universe has a purpose, 1115 01:13:16,986 --> 01:13:20,268 it's not somehow just there by chance, 1116 01:13:20,394 --> 01:13:22,016 I mean, I think it's... 1117 01:13:28,271 --> 01:13:31,644 Some people, I think, take the view that the Universe is just there 1118 01:13:31,769 --> 01:13:34,860 and it sort of rumbles along and it just sort of computes, 1119 01:13:34,986 --> 01:13:38,373 we happen somehow by accident and found ourselves in this thing. 1120 01:13:38,547 --> 01:13:42,617 But I don't think that's a very fruitful 1121 01:13:42,742 --> 01:13:45,048 or helpful way of looking at the Universe. 1122 01:13:45,341 --> 01:13:48,215 I think that there's something much deeper about it. 1123 01:13:50,382 --> 01:13:54,114 In real time, the time in which we live, 1124 01:13:54,398 --> 01:13:58,178 the Universe has two possible destinies: 1125 01:13:59,173 --> 01:14:02,177 it may continue to expand forever, 1126 01:14:04,086 --> 01:14:09,082 or it may re-collapse and come to an end at a Big Crunch. 1127 01:14:11,099 --> 01:14:13,868 It would be rather like the big Bang, 1128 01:14:14,232 --> 01:14:15,880 but in reverse. 1129 01:14:18,153 --> 01:14:24,080 I now believe that the Universe will come to an end at a Big Crunch. 1130 01:14:25,420 --> 01:14:28,477 I do, however, have certain advantages 1131 01:14:28,602 --> 01:14:31,814 over many other prophets of doom: 1132 01:14:33,659 --> 01:14:37,120 whatever happens 10 billion years from now, 1133 01:14:37,245 --> 01:14:41,211 I don't expect to be around to be proved wrong. 1134 01:14:44,025 --> 01:14:48,018 Of all the pictures that I know, 1135 01:14:48,143 --> 01:14:51,177 the simplest of any cosmology 1136 01:14:51,302 --> 01:14:54,123 is that in which the Universe is closed, 1137 01:14:54,402 --> 01:14:56,602 has a finite lifetime, 1138 01:14:56,808 --> 01:15:00,126 and collapses with the same kind of collapse 1139 01:15:00,427 --> 01:15:02,117 that a black hole does. 1140 01:15:04,365 --> 01:15:09,958 If it should turn out that indeed the Universe is limited in its life, 1141 01:15:11,823 --> 01:15:16,933 how is that different from the life of each one of us? 1142 01:15:27,053 --> 01:15:29,698 On the evening of Tuesday, March 5th, 1143 01:15:29,823 --> 01:15:32,064 at about 10h45, 1144 01:15:32,277 --> 01:15:35,776 I was returning to my flat in Pinehurst. 1145 01:15:37,655 --> 01:15:40,202 It was dark and raining. 1146 01:15:41,498 --> 01:15:43,611 I came up to Grange Road 1147 01:15:43,736 --> 01:15:46,248 and saw headlights approaching, 1148 01:15:46,373 --> 01:15:49,003 but judged that they were far enough away 1149 01:15:49,128 --> 01:15:51,327 that I could cross safely. 1150 01:15:53,832 --> 01:15:57,329 The vehicle must have been travelling very fast, 1151 01:15:57,702 --> 01:16:01,220 for when I got just past the middle of the road, 1152 01:16:01,345 --> 01:16:04,514 my nurse screamed: "Look out!" 1153 01:16:06,585 --> 01:16:08,687 I heard tires skidding 1154 01:16:08,813 --> 01:16:12,917 and my wheelchair was struck a tremendous blow in the back. 1155 01:16:14,728 --> 01:16:16,518 I ended up in the road, 1156 01:16:16,643 --> 01:16:20,067 with my legs over the remains of the wheelchair. 1157 01:16:21,959 --> 01:16:24,993 The accident destroyed my wheelchair 1158 01:16:25,118 --> 01:16:27,548 and damaged my computer system 1159 01:16:27,674 --> 01:16:29,856 with which I communicate. 1160 01:16:32,074 --> 01:16:36,074 I required 13 stitches in my head, 1161 01:16:37,365 --> 01:16:41,898 but I was able to go back to work several days later. 1162 01:16:47,304 --> 01:16:50,322 The memories I have are very much, 1163 01:16:50,784 --> 01:16:52,265 kind of, 1164 01:16:52,621 --> 01:16:55,843 visual pictures of what Stephen was. 1165 01:16:56,020 --> 01:16:59,933 I've seen Stephen in certain situations. 1166 01:17:00,942 --> 01:17:02,830 He was always moving, 1167 01:17:03,296 --> 01:17:04,556 always. 1168 01:17:04,946 --> 01:17:07,164 He was hardly ever still. 1169 01:17:08,421 --> 01:17:12,401 It was the same thing about his face and gestures, 1170 01:17:12,707 --> 01:17:15,120 which he used a great deal, I should say. 1171 01:17:15,245 --> 01:17:17,720 But it's only memory. 1172 01:17:19,136 --> 01:17:21,672 I found some photographs recently 1173 01:17:21,797 --> 01:17:25,624 which reminded me of the general look of everybody. 1174 01:17:26,382 --> 01:17:29,991 I must say Stephen looked very much as he does now. 1175 01:17:30,772 --> 01:17:33,566 If one thinks of him like that. 1176 01:17:40,575 --> 01:17:43,541 He does believe very intensely 1177 01:17:45,173 --> 01:17:49,187 in almost infinite possibility of the human mind. 1178 01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:51,975 You have to find out what you can't know 1179 01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,147 before you know you can't, don't you? 1180 01:17:54,272 --> 01:17:58,445 So I don't think that thought should be restricted at all, 1181 01:17:58,620 --> 01:18:02,548 and there's... why shouldn't you go on thinking about the unthinkable? 1182 01:18:02,673 --> 01:18:04,792 Somebody's got to start sometime. 1183 01:18:04,918 --> 01:18:08,379 I mean, think how many things were unthinkable a century ago. 1184 01:18:08,504 --> 01:18:10,500 And yet people have thought them. 1185 01:18:10,626 --> 01:18:13,166 And often they seemed quite impractical. 1186 01:18:14,034 --> 01:18:16,565 Not all things Stephen says 1187 01:18:16,691 --> 01:18:19,349 probably are to be taken as Gospel. 1188 01:18:19,474 --> 01:18:21,958 truth is, he's a searcher, he's looking for things 1189 01:18:22,083 --> 01:18:25,801 and if he is sometimes, he probably talks nonsense as we all... 1190 01:18:25,978 --> 01:18:28,107 but the point is: 1191 01:18:29,367 --> 01:18:31,572 people must think. 1192 01:18:31,697 --> 01:18:33,736 People must go on thinking. 1193 01:18:33,861 --> 01:18:37,415 They must try to extend the boundaries of knowledge, 1194 01:18:37,541 --> 01:18:39,943 and they don't sometimes even know where to start. 1195 01:18:41,702 --> 01:18:44,746 We don't know where the boundaries are, do we? 1196 01:18:45,065 --> 01:18:48,278 We don't know what the taking off point is. 1197 01:18:57,362 --> 01:19:01,124 If we do discover a complete theory of the Universe, 1198 01:19:01,249 --> 01:19:03,690 it should, in time, be understandable, 1199 01:19:03,815 --> 01:19:06,220 in broad principle, by everyone, 1200 01:19:06,528 --> 01:19:09,026 not just a few scientists. 1201 01:19:13,823 --> 01:19:15,299 Then we shall all, 1202 01:19:15,583 --> 01:19:20,357 philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, 1203 01:19:20,528 --> 01:19:24,677 be able to take part in the discussion 1204 01:19:24,802 --> 01:19:28,341 on why it is that we, and the Universe, exist. 1205 01:19:31,887 --> 01:19:34,424 If we find the answer to that, 1206 01:19:34,762 --> 01:19:39,080 it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason. 1207 01:19:42,116 --> 01:19:44,227 For then we would know 1208 01:19:44,866 --> 01:19:47,350 the mind of God. 102582

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