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In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups...
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the police
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Don't kill your
baby! Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
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Abortion is a sin...
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Do they ever get bored?
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The True Believers?
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Not on your life.
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.. Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies...
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Past 24 weeks?
We can't help you.
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Well, I'm not sure.
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Okay...
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fill this out and you
can see the nurse.
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Women's Choices.
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God, not again.
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So my father says,
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"If you weren't a cop
you would get a husband.
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Who told you to be a cop?"
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My mother says,
"I told her to be a cop
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so she wouldn't worry
about getting a husband."
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You could always marry me.
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You're not what my father
had in mind.
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29 Adam,
respond to 312 West 19th
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Chelsea Women's Choices
regarding bomb threat; advise.
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We are at that location
and will advise further.
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Come on, let's go.
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Easy, easy, easy.
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Don't panic.
It will be all right.
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Take it easy.
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Out now!
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That's everybody.
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Come on, let's go.
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Stay behind the barrier.
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I'm asking if you saw anybody
carrying something...
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knapsack, package,
a large bag...
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anything out of the ordinary.
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Yo!
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Good morning, Vietnam.
What do we got?
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Your garden-variety lunatic
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blowing up a room
with a lot of ladies in it.
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The bomb.
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Your basic type.
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Fertilizer and diesel?
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You got it. Amateur hour.
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The only thing I like more
than a bomber is an amateur bomber.
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Timer?
Quartz alarm clock.
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Straight out of
"The Revolutionary Cookbook."
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If that's the main course,
I can't wait to see dessert.
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Yeah, well, there won't be
any dessert for this one.
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Student ID.
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"University of Manhattan."
Sandra Turner.
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21-22, maybe.
She was in the bathroom.
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Was she here for an abortion?
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Doesn't play that way.
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She didn't sign in.
Nobody saw her.
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It looks like she was
the delivery girl,
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but she didn't get out
quick enough.
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Put her right through the wall.
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We get calls all the time...
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false alarms, but still
we get everybody out.
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Did you recognize the voice
on the phone before?
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She only said "bomb."
How could I recognize her voice?
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What about the girl
in the bathroom- Turner?
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Did she fill out a form?
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No way. I didn't see her.
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She wasn't a patient.
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They can't wait to talk
to somebody.
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She must have carried
the bomb in.
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What is wrong
with these people?
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Sooner or later,
it had to happen.
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As long as the courts
refuse to act against abortion,
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there are going
to be individuals...
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Are you defending these nuts?
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Come on.
This ain't lone justice.
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It's a conspiracy.
They can't stop abortion
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through the courts,
so they'll bomb a few clinics.
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We don't know that.
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We don't? I don't remember
reading anything
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about a cellular phone
in the bathroom.
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Somebody called in a warning.
Two people make a conspiracy.
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Look, all I'm saying is
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I understand
why they're frustrated.
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Max, a girl is dead.
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She was 22 years old.
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Tell them to write their congressman,
not throw bombs.
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I'm only saying they believe
in something and they're angry.
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They're angry? So they send
a girl in there with a bomb?
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In my book that is
not frustration, that's murder.
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Eight bombings
in the last seven months,
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all of them at night.
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None of them happened
in the daytime.
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Nobody was hurt before either.
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We've got six active
anti-abortion protest groups
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with offices in Manhattan.
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Let's see if the ME's
got an ID,
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then we'll start on these.
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Whatever she used
did a real job on her.
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Anybody come to ID her?
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- Nah.
- No prints?
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Epithelial layers gone.
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I could get better prints
from charcoal.
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You'll have a preliminary
report tomorrow,
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but there's not much doubt
about the COD.
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That's it?
Cash- no wallet?
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Just the university ID.
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Nobody on this student number.
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Try Tumer, Sandra.
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We haven't had
six digit IDs in two years.
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Tumer, Samuel...
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Turner, Sheila...
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No Turner, Sandra.
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But this is
the university's card?
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No, it isn't.
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This picture is... glued on.
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It's a fake.
The real one's like a license,
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all one piece.
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Back to square one.
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Let's hit some of those
anti-abortion groups.
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0 for three. Number four
- "Women for Life,"
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headed by Rose Schwimmer.
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Our battle isn't about
restoring Central Park,
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or a 15C increase
in the subway fare,
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or separating cans and bottles
from our trash.
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It's about human life.
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Sometimes people go
out of bounds.
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Do you ever go out of bounds?
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All the time.
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That's why I'm here.
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You're here to break the law?
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I'm here to stop
the murder of babies.
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Look, let's get this clear.
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Abortion is a right
in this country!
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That clinic was performing
a legal and medical procedure.
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They weren't murdering anything.
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Mrs. Schwimmer...
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a girl is dead.
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The clinic's just a couple
of minutes from here.
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I'm horrified by what happened.
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But you sympathize, don't you?
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I mean, with people
who bomb abortion clinics.
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I don't condone violence,
but I understand.
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Does a woman
named Sandra Turner
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belong to your group?
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Would hand me
that folder there, please?
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We have over 2,000
active members.
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And a couple thousand more
come to our vigils,
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and send contributions.
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No Sandra Turner.
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Where were you
when the bomb went off?
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Why?
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People from your group
were picketing that day.
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Am I a suspect, Detective?
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Lazy Jane's around the corner
having tea.
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I guess when you go against
the system the way we do,
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you're guilty
until proven innocent.
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She comes every wednesday...
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Rose Schwimmer.
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She came in between
10:00 and 11:00.
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Are you sure of the time?
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Why do you think
it's called Lazy Jane's?
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I don't get in until 10:00.
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So what?
She came right after you?
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15, 10:30.
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Her friend came in
a couple of minutes later.
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The friend a regular, too?
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Semi- a couple times a month.
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You know the look...
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Raggedy Ann
with a Bendel's charge card.
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She's a real pro-shopper.
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She had this big box with her.
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A box? She put right on the table.
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Can you believe that?
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I mean, it was
the size of a toaster oven.
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I put it on the chair.
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This isn't a dinner.
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Watch- five years
they'll legalize drugs.
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Pfft! Maybe, maybe not.
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It's a great country, Max.
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You can do what you want,
when you want,
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with who you want.
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Which means if a woman
wants an abortion,
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she can get one.
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Just because she was
careless enough
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to get knocked up
in the first place?
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What are you against,
abortions or sex?
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Abortions. I like sex.
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So a 17-year-old should louse up
her whole life by having a kid?
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17-year-olds shouldn't
be doing what makes babies.
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And crooks shouldn't have guns.
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Get real. what they
should be is more careful.
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Kids aren't careful,
that's why they're kids.
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Mrs. Schwimmer didn't
mention that she had tea
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with Ms. Toaster Oven.
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I get it. Now every pro-life
protestor is a bomber.
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You agree with them, don't you?
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Okay, Don Juan...
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any of your girlfriends
ever have an abortion?
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One ex-girlfriend, who's
now married with two kids...
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neither of them mine.
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I really don't have
time for this.
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I hate to bother you, but it
is weird that no one saw her.
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Really? If I was
planting a bomb,
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I'd sure try to be invisible.
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That's all the cards.
There's no Sandra Turner.
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I told you-
she didn't sign in.
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How much does an abortion cost?
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$300.
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$300- the price
of a cheap mob hit.
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Hey, Max, look at that.
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Yo! How many
did they take away?
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12, 15.
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Let's go to
the property clerk's office,
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and pick up
the dead girl's keys.
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We got two right here.
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Ooh! whoa!
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How sweet it is.
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I could get used
to driving this.
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On your salary you couldn't
afford the repairs.
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On my salary I couldn't
even afford the insurance.
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Bingo!
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"Chelsea women's
Choices Center."
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Let's get the Crime Scene
Unit down here.
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Maybe we'll get lucky
and pull some prints.
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Yeah.
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Come on. Don't give
yourself an ulcer.
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422.
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Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
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Sergeant Greevey,
Detective Logan.
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When she didn't
come home last night
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we tried to file
a missing person report.
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They wouldn't take it.
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They said we had
to wait two days.
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Our Father who art in heaven,
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hallowed be Thy name.
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Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done
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on earth as it is heaven.
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Give us this day
our daily bread,
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and forgive us, we forgive
those who trespass against us.
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You daughter, did she belong
to a right-to-life group?
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The thing about Mary...
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she loves kids.
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That's why she teaches.
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Did Mary ever mention
women for Life?
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She was sympathetic
to their work, ideals.
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We all are. Did anyone call
the school and tell them that...
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Mary wouldn't be in
today? It's okay, Barbara.
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Couldn't Mary have,
without your knowledge...
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Mary didn't keep
secrets from us.
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We know how hard it is,
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but we'd like to look
at Mary's room.
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Mary has a thing about privacy.
258
00:14:47,453 --> 00:14:49,011
Barbara...
259
00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:52,922
it doesn't matter if
they go into her room now.
260
00:14:56,996 --> 00:14:58,623
"The Lives of The Saints."
261
00:14:59,765 --> 00:15:01,824
22 years old.
262
00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:04,859
Who sends a kid
to deliver a bomb?
263
00:15:07,106 --> 00:15:08,971
Maybe it was her own idea.
264
00:15:09,008 --> 00:15:10,976
Yeah?
265
00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:12,978
Who taught her how to make one?
266
00:15:13,012 --> 00:15:15,003
Whoever it was,
267
00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:17,072
they should have
taught her about timers.
268
00:15:17,116 --> 00:15:19,983
The mother seems to be
taking it pretty hard.
269
00:15:20,019 --> 00:15:21,987
It's gonna take awhile.
270
00:15:22,021 --> 00:15:24,888
What? To realize
that her daughter is dead?
271
00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:27,256
To realize
she didn't die with her.
272
00:15:27,293 --> 00:15:31,320
The father doesn't seem
to be having that problem.
273
00:15:31,363 --> 00:15:32,887
That's because...
274
00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,900
he didn't lose a daughter,
275
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,925
he gained a martyr.
276
00:15:40,139 --> 00:15:41,572
Hey.
277
00:15:42,574 --> 00:15:45,941
Looks like the brother owns
a lumber company.
278
00:15:47,146 --> 00:15:49,671
Lumber- construction.
279
00:15:49,715 --> 00:15:52,377
Construction- explosives.
280
00:15:53,752 --> 00:15:56,414
Anything you can tell us
about Mary's friends,
281
00:15:56,455 --> 00:15:58,980
teachers she was close to?
282
00:15:59,925 --> 00:16:03,156
My father...
283
00:16:03,195 --> 00:16:06,494
poured himself a cup
of coffee this morning.
284
00:16:06,532 --> 00:16:09,262
Put in milk, sugar,
walked over to the sink,
285
00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:11,269
poured it down the drain.
286
00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:13,771
He didn't knowwhat
the hell he was doing.
287
00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:16,866
I got on the West Side
Highway on my way here...
288
00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:18,877
I forgot to get off.
289
00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,539
Went the whole way
to 96th Street.
290
00:16:23,182 --> 00:16:25,650
Just like that, I had a sister
291
00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:27,515
and now I don't.
292
00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,781
Is there only the two of you?
293
00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,986
Mary always said
she would have a big family.
294
00:16:34,026 --> 00:16:37,462
What about these
anti-abortion groups?
295
00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:39,657
She loved kids.
296
00:16:39,698 --> 00:16:41,689
Did she belong
to any organized groups?
297
00:16:43,335 --> 00:16:44,461
Mr. Donovan,
298
00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:46,095
bombing is a felony.
299
00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:48,231
Fine! I think Mary's paid
for her crime in full,
300
00:16:48,273 --> 00:16:49,501
don't you, Detective?
301
00:16:49,541 --> 00:16:52,271
We don't happen to think
she was in this alone.
302
00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:54,279
Don't you want the people
303
00:16:54,313 --> 00:16:56,338
who helped to kill
your sister to pay, too?
304
00:16:58,117 --> 00:17:00,210
If she was
the member of a group,
305
00:17:00,252 --> 00:17:02,379
she never mentioned it to me.
306
00:17:04,123 --> 00:17:06,785
They might know more at school-
Saint Aloysius.
307
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:11,895
Some people take
a long time to grow up.
308
00:17:11,930 --> 00:17:13,056
Have a seat.
309
00:17:16,135 --> 00:17:20,071
They still believe
in hearts and flowers,
310
00:17:20,105 --> 00:17:22,300
and Mom never looks
at another guy...
311
00:17:22,341 --> 00:17:24,741
Dad doesn't cheat
on his income tax.
312
00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:29,111
For 22, Mary was... young.
313
00:17:29,148 --> 00:17:31,844
Young enough to let somebody
talk her into throwing a bomb?
314
00:17:32,951 --> 00:17:35,681
Gentlemen,
a parochial school like this...
315
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,019
it's another century.
316
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:39,820
Mary was a sweet kid.
317
00:17:39,858 --> 00:17:42,850
She believed the whole world
was parochial school,
318
00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:44,954
that all the problems
could be solved
319
00:17:44,997 --> 00:17:47,022
with pure thoughts
and a rosary.
320
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,693
Did, uh...
321
00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,066
did you know she wasn't
gonna be here yesterday?
322
00:17:51,103 --> 00:17:52,536
Day off.
323
00:17:52,571 --> 00:17:53,936
Regular day off?
324
00:17:55,007 --> 00:17:57,271
No. Do you know
how hard it is
325
00:17:57,309 --> 00:17:58,936
to get good teachers
these days?
326
00:17:58,977 --> 00:18:01,275
They ask for a day off,
they get it.
327
00:18:01,313 --> 00:18:04,248
Did she happen to tell you why?
328
00:18:04,283 --> 00:18:06,251
Well, she had been upset.
329
00:18:06,285 --> 00:18:08,879
I figured it was her boyfriend,
Patrick Dunn.
330
00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:11,981
He teaches here,
eighth grade Latin.
331
00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:14,492
Last week they had
an argument in the hallway
332
00:18:14,526 --> 00:18:15,993
in front of the kids.
333
00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:19,464
I had to tell them "This is not
appropriate behavior."
334
00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:21,523
She shouldn't have been there.
335
00:18:22,534 --> 00:18:23,762
It's crazy.
336
00:18:23,802 --> 00:18:25,531
So, Patrick...
337
00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:29,371
this fight you had last week,
what was that all about?
338
00:18:29,408 --> 00:18:31,899
Some article in "The Times."
339
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:35,072
Connecticut's abortion law...
340
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,173
Mary hated abortion.
341
00:18:37,216 --> 00:18:38,581
Hated it.
342
00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:40,107
You?
343
00:18:40,152 --> 00:18:41,881
Why?
344
00:18:44,556 --> 00:18:47,320
Personally, I think it's a sin,
345
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,327
and I think it's immoral.
346
00:18:49,361 --> 00:18:51,056
But I live in the real world.
347
00:18:52,598 --> 00:18:56,125
Did she ever mention a woman
named Rose Schwimmer?
348
00:18:57,503 --> 00:18:59,528
Women for Life.
349
00:18:59,571 --> 00:19:02,039
Everyone knows who she is.
350
00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,771
If you're asking whether
I carry false identification, Detective,
351
00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,438
the answer is no.
352
00:19:07,479 --> 00:19:09,208
I'm proud of what I do.
353
00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:11,148
Anybody in your group have any?
354
00:19:11,183 --> 00:19:13,174
Please.
Thank you.
355
00:19:15,287 --> 00:19:17,278
This movement attracts
356
00:19:17,322 --> 00:19:19,313
deeply committed individuals.
357
00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:22,354
They get arrested.
358
00:19:23,562 --> 00:19:26,326
Some carry false identification
and jump bail.
359
00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:27,992
And Mary Donovan?
360
00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:30,729
Obviously, deeply committed.
361
00:19:30,769 --> 00:19:32,964
But you didn't even know her.
362
00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,337
No, I didn't.
363
00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:39,041
But what I do know is
Mary Donovan,
364
00:19:39,077 --> 00:19:43,173
whoever she was,
sacrificed herself to save the unborn.
365
00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:45,513
Hundreds of them.
366
00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:47,644
I don't approve of her methods,
367
00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,847
but I applaud her results.
368
00:19:49,888 --> 00:19:52,789
The day of the bombing
when you had brunch,
369
00:19:52,824 --> 00:19:55,588
you didn't mention
someone else being there...
370
00:19:55,627 --> 00:19:58,721
who happened to be carrying
a large package.
371
00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:03,894
This morning I had breakfast
with my sister.
372
00:20:03,936 --> 00:20:06,200
She carried an umbrella.
373
00:20:06,238 --> 00:20:07,933
I didn't tell you that either.
374
00:20:07,973 --> 00:20:10,271
We're just trying
to do our job here.
375
00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:13,335
We have to verify alibis.
376
00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:15,403
I had brunch with an associate,
377
00:20:15,447 --> 00:20:17,142
Celeste McClure.
378
00:20:19,418 --> 00:20:21,443
Um, this Ms. McClure,
379
00:20:21,486 --> 00:20:23,454
you knowwhere we can find her?
380
00:20:23,488 --> 00:20:25,115
Today?
381
00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:27,148
Probably at
the community garden,
382
00:20:27,192 --> 00:20:28,887
near the stables
on 89th Street.
383
00:20:28,927 --> 00:20:31,395
Just came from the printer.
384
00:20:33,498 --> 00:20:35,193
Great, isn't it?
385
00:20:36,401 --> 00:20:38,369
It's wonderful.
386
00:20:39,671 --> 00:20:41,662
Depends on what you're selling.
387
00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:45,907
You're mistaken, Detective.
388
00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:47,571
I didn't know Mary Donovan.
389
00:20:47,613 --> 00:20:49,911
But I wish I had.
390
00:20:49,948 --> 00:20:53,111
What she did makes me proud.
391
00:20:53,151 --> 00:20:54,846
Throwing a bomb?
392
00:20:54,886 --> 00:20:57,650
Innocent people
could have been killed.
393
00:20:57,689 --> 00:20:59,714
In that building
394
00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:02,522
before Mary Donovan
threw that bomb
395
00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:05,621
unborn babies were
being killed every day.
396
00:21:05,664 --> 00:21:09,031
At Lazy Jane's, when you had
brunch with Rose Schwimmer,
397
00:21:09,067 --> 00:21:10,796
what was in the box you had?
398
00:21:10,836 --> 00:21:13,202
Leaflets...
399
00:21:13,238 --> 00:21:14,535
for protestors.
400
00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:17,599
I'm trying to save lives.
You're supposed to save lives.
401
00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:18,940
We're investigating...
402
00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:22,105
A woman who gave her life
in the only cause that counts!
403
00:21:22,147 --> 00:21:24,945
Nobody's-
You wear a wedding ring.
404
00:21:24,983 --> 00:21:26,848
Do you have children?
405
00:21:27,853 --> 00:21:30,981
Would you want your daughter
or your wife
406
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,218
to have an abortion?
407
00:21:33,258 --> 00:21:34,919
No.
408
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,895
But I wouldn't want them
tossing bombs either.
409
00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:42,934
If you don't have
any more questions,
410
00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:44,959
I have work to do.
411
00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:54,509
Hmm, ammonium nitrate.
412
00:21:54,546 --> 00:21:57,982
Now, all she needs
is the diesel fuel.
413
00:21:58,016 --> 00:22:01,508
Hey, you know, that's a good question she
asked about your daughter.
414
00:22:01,553 --> 00:22:03,384
Suppose some boyfriend
knocked her up?
415
00:22:03,422 --> 00:22:06,949
Look! we are not
investigating my daughter,
416
00:22:06,992 --> 00:22:09,790
my sex life with my wife,
or my opinions on contraception.
417
00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,626
We are investigating the bombing
of an abortion clinic.
418
00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:14,962
Let's just stick to the job,
all right?
419
00:22:20,205 --> 00:22:22,173
Peterson's 121 nitrate.
420
00:22:22,207 --> 00:22:24,471
Where did you get that?
421
00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:26,534
What, I don't look like I have
a green thumb to you?
422
00:22:26,578 --> 00:22:28,546
You must be one hell
of a gardener.
423
00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:30,605
Do you grow palm trees
in your backyard?
424
00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,617
This stuff is
for tropical plants.
425
00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:33,879
New York?
426
00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:35,910
A big item in Hawaii.
427
00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:44,524
Quite a record
Mrs. Schwimmer's got here.
428
00:22:44,563 --> 00:22:48,863
Trespassing,
disturbing the peace...
429
00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:51,027
harassment.
430
00:22:51,069 --> 00:22:53,560
For such a non-violent person
431
00:22:53,605 --> 00:22:55,436
she sure does get around.
432
00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:58,307
I've seen armed robbers
who've got shorter rap sheets than this.
433
00:22:58,343 --> 00:23:02,109
McClure's got nothing but
a dismissed trespass.
434
00:23:02,147 --> 00:23:05,742
It's a big step from there
to armed robbery.
435
00:23:05,817 --> 00:23:07,910
Yeah, well, Donovan's
completely clean.
436
00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,784
She doesn't even have
a traffic ticket.
437
00:23:09,821 --> 00:23:12,449
But she was willing to go
all the way up to arson and murder
438
00:23:12,491 --> 00:23:14,356
even with Mr. Clean
for her boyfriend.
439
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:18,159
The methods are wrong,
but they're trying to prevent murder.
440
00:23:18,196 --> 00:23:19,356
Spare me the rhetoric.
441
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:21,764
I don't consider abortion murder.
442
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,234
If a woman wants one,
that's her right to choose...
443
00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:28,103
not yours, not mine and certainly not Ms.
Rose Schwimmer.
444
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:29,698
I don't care what you believe,
445
00:23:29,741 --> 00:23:33,802
trying to prevent abortions
by bombing goes way too far.
446
00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:36,006
I don't even know how
you can sit here and defend it.
447
00:23:36,047 --> 00:23:38,072
You and I both know
they didn't mean to hurt anybody!
448
00:23:38,116 --> 00:23:40,516
No, I don't know that, okay?!
449
00:23:40,552 --> 00:23:43,146
Only an idiot thinks
bombs don't hurt people.
450
00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:44,485
Come on, tell me more!
451
00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:46,286
Lab report just came in.
452
00:23:46,324 --> 00:23:48,519
Fertilizer's a match
on the bomb
453
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,585
and they got a bunch
of good latent prints on the bag...
454
00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:52,256
all the same woman.
455
00:23:52,297 --> 00:23:54,595
And they're a match for the parcel
on the bomb fragment.
456
00:23:54,633 --> 00:23:58,330
If you two could manage
not to kill each other
457
00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:02,101
maybe you could pick up McClure
and see if her prints match.
458
00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:12,877
We're not saying
it's a slam dunk.
459
00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:16,183
Slam dunk? A bag of fertilizer
and a couple of prints?
460
00:24:16,221 --> 00:24:17,518
Right now, I'd have a hard time
461
00:24:17,556 --> 00:24:19,649
of convicting Celeste McClure
of bad gardening.
462
00:24:19,691 --> 00:24:21,659
I'm trying to make this work
beyond just an indictment.
463
00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:23,183
You don't like it?
Don't file.
464
00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:25,093
That's just fine with me.
465
00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:27,894
Are you in favor
of people planting bombs, Sergeant?
466
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:29,594
Careful, Counselor.
467
00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:32,626
All I'm saying is that
these women are true believers.
468
00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:36,038
And so far, they've hurt no one
but each other.
469
00:24:36,074 --> 00:24:38,235
Yeah. Talk about dumb luck.
470
00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:42,903
Gentlemen.
471
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:50,683
McClure made the bomb.
Donovan muled it.
472
00:24:50,722 --> 00:24:52,087
Schwimmer ordered it.
473
00:24:52,123 --> 00:24:53,750
You want my advice?
474
00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:55,555
Offer McClure a plea.
She'll take it.
475
00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:57,585
She wants to be a martyr.
476
00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:02,457
Celeste McClure, the charges are
477
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,093
conspiracy in the third degree,
478
00:25:04,135 --> 00:25:06,433
reckless endangerment
in the second degree,
479
00:25:06,471 --> 00:25:08,837
arson in the second degree.
480
00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:11,308
How does the defendant
plead on the first count?
481
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,311
Not guilty on all counts,
Your Honor.
482
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:15,905
We request release of the
defendant on her own recognizance.
483
00:25:15,947 --> 00:25:17,915
Based upon what, Mr. Ballard?
484
00:25:17,949 --> 00:25:20,679
These are two serious
felony charges here.
485
00:25:20,719 --> 00:25:23,415
Based on the fact that this
is a political prosecution.
486
00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:26,481
You're not on trial yet,
Counselor.
487
00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:28,493
Your Honor,
if it please the court,
488
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,291
Ms. McClure is a young woman
with no previous criminal record
489
00:25:31,329 --> 00:25:32,819
and close ties to the community.
490
00:25:32,864 --> 00:25:34,422
Mr. Stone?
491
00:25:34,466 --> 00:25:37,264
The People have no objection
to minimum bail, Your Honor.
492
00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:40,829
Then bail is set at $10,000
cash or bond.
493
00:25:40,872 --> 00:25:42,396
Short date.
494
00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:47,137
Thanks for the bail recommendation.
495
00:25:47,178 --> 00:25:48,475
Not at all, sir.
496
00:25:48,513 --> 00:25:50,140
Martyrs don't run.
497
00:25:50,181 --> 00:25:52,479
How can you allow
yourself to be used like this?
498
00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:55,680
If you're gonna stick your finger
in my eye, Mr. Ballard,
499
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,745
clean your own nails first.
500
00:25:57,789 --> 00:25:59,882
It seems to me the only reason
for this prosecution
501
00:25:59,925 --> 00:26:02,325
is to make the right-to-life
movement look bad.
502
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:03,987
That'll get you in the papers,
503
00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:06,122
but it won't help your client
and it's not true.
504
00:26:06,164 --> 00:26:08,655
McClure didn't plant that bomb,
505
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:09,792
Mary Donovan did.
506
00:26:09,834 --> 00:26:11,165
McClure made the bomb.
507
00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:13,602
The best you can get,
if you believe she's guilty...
508
00:26:13,638 --> 00:26:15,435
j j conspiracy six, arson four.
509
00:26:15,473 --> 00:26:18,101
Are you accusing me
of filing inflated charges?
510
00:26:18,143 --> 00:26:20,634
I'm only saying you're gonna
cost the state a lot of money
511
00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:22,647
merely to get her on probation.
512
00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:25,616
If probation will keep a bomb out of
that woman's hands, it's worth the money.
513
00:26:25,650 --> 00:26:27,379
These people aren't criminals.
514
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:29,580
What are they,
Mary Poppins, Mother Teresa?
515
00:26:29,621 --> 00:26:32,488
They are exercising their right
of free speech.
516
00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:34,958
Throwing a bomb
is a little non-verbal
517
00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:37,154
to qualify as speech, sir.
518
00:26:38,196 --> 00:26:40,596
Are you sure you don't want
to recuse yourself?
519
00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:42,361
That's insulting.
520
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,597
I'm personally against abortion
means I can't prosecute a bomber?
521
00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:47,502
What I believe doesn't matter.
522
00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:48,938
I represent the law.
523
00:26:48,974 --> 00:26:50,498
Amazing.
524
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:53,033
I'm getting angry.
525
00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:56,047
The most emotional issue
526
00:26:56,081 --> 00:26:59,676
that the law has dealt with
since suffrage.
527
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,084
Look at us. Three men...
528
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:05,283
talking about what rights
women should have
529
00:27:05,323 --> 00:27:06,950
over their own bodies.
530
00:27:06,992 --> 00:27:09,756
Doesn't that strike you
as a little one-sided?
531
00:27:09,794 --> 00:27:11,421
Adam, I have already told you
532
00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:15,422
my personal feelings have no impact on
my ability to prosecute a criminal case.
533
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:18,800
And I have never said that a woman
does not have the right to choose.
534
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:20,862
Fine. Wonderful.
535
00:27:20,905 --> 00:27:24,966
Are you feeling shaky
on that conspiracy charge?
536
00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:28,446
You better tie the bomb maker
to the bomber
537
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,448
with a little more than
what you got there.
538
00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:32,473
We prove McClure made the bomb,
539
00:27:32,517 --> 00:27:34,075
Donovan delivered it.
540
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,552
What about Schwimmer?
541
00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:37,350
That's flimsy.
542
00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,381
And it's risky. we tie her into
the picture, it doesn't work...
543
00:27:40,425 --> 00:27:42,791
I wouldn't go even for an indictment
with what we got now.
544
00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:46,593
But? It is a conspiracy,
and I want to make it stick!
545
00:27:46,631 --> 00:27:48,326
Forensics ever send over
a print report?
546
00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:49,799
Finally. There's another
set of prints
547
00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:52,462
along with Mary Donovan's
on that counterfeit ID card.
548
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,472
We don't figure out
who they belong to,
549
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,872
Ballard will say someone else
was in league with Mary.
550
00:27:56,908 --> 00:27:59,206
Get a print work-up
on everybody who knew her.
551
00:27:59,244 --> 00:28:01,075
You argue with Schiff
a lot on this.
552
00:28:01,112 --> 00:28:03,740
Yeah. Do you agree with him?
That's not an issue for me.
553
00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:05,909
I'm not for abortion,
I'm for birth control.
554
00:28:05,950 --> 00:28:08,248
I got your fertilizer.
Make me happy.
555
00:28:08,286 --> 00:28:10,754
McClure bought one bag
from the same supplier
556
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:12,757
who sells to
the community garden.
557
00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:15,123
Ordered it herself. She
didn't happen to sign...?
558
00:28:16,494 --> 00:28:18,485
You just made me very happy.
559
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,965
The only deal
we're interested in
560
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,298
is you drop everything.
Don't even go to the grand jury.
561
00:28:24,335 --> 00:28:26,963
Put your emotions in your briefcase
for a couple of minutes.
562
00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:29,371
This case is about emotion.
563
00:28:29,407 --> 00:28:32,069
I hope you know your law
better than that, Mr. Ballard.
564
00:28:32,110 --> 00:28:33,668
I know juries are swayed by it.
565
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,839
It's your gamble, Mr. Ballard.
566
00:28:37,115 --> 00:28:40,846
Ms. McClure, you and Mary Donovan
bombed a clinic.
567
00:28:40,885 --> 00:28:43,410
Mary Donovan is dead
and you're not.
568
00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:56,493
She's a nice, young lady.
She made a mistake.
569
00:28:56,534 --> 00:28:59,901
I hope you're not going to let her
take the fall all by herself.
570
00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:02,406
All she has to do is
name who ordered it.
571
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,876
It doesn't matter
what happens to me.
572
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:08,276
The babies matter.
573
00:29:08,313 --> 00:29:11,612
Arson in the second degree
is a class "B" felony.
574
00:29:11,649 --> 00:29:15,312
I assume Mr. Ballard told you
the sentence if you're convicted?
575
00:29:15,353 --> 00:29:16,786
Six years in jail.
576
00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:18,948
Six years in prison,
Ms. McClure.
577
00:29:21,025 --> 00:29:23,493
May we leave now,
Mr. Ballard?
578
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,536
23 years old.
579
00:29:36,574 --> 00:29:39,543
She can't even imagine
what six years of hard time is like.
580
00:29:39,577 --> 00:29:41,704
Somebody's using her.
581
00:29:41,746 --> 00:29:43,077
Schwimmer?
582
00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:46,050
An hour ago, I didn't know,
583
00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:47,711
but now, even money.
584
00:29:47,752 --> 00:29:50,016
Still, it usually doesn't
work this way.
585
00:29:50,054 --> 00:29:52,682
Usually the criminal
doesn't want to go to jail.
586
00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:53,884
McClure does.
587
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:56,689
She'll become a martyr.
She'll never give up on Schwimmer.
588
00:29:56,728 --> 00:29:58,355
She won't give anybody.
589
00:29:58,396 --> 00:30:01,854
Except herself. It's about morality
for her, not legal compromise.
590
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,868
So why don't we turn
this thing around?
591
00:30:03,902 --> 00:30:05,631
Let's try a reverse.
592
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:09,128
I'm not part of any conspiracy,
Mr. Robinette.
593
00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:11,142
You understand,
Ms. Schwimmer,
594
00:30:11,176 --> 00:30:14,145
we're going to request the maximum
sentence for Celeste McClure?
595
00:30:14,179 --> 00:30:16,670
You might ask your attorney
what that means.
596
00:30:16,714 --> 00:30:18,682
First you have to get
a conviction...
597
00:30:18,716 --> 00:30:20,741
with very thin evidence.
598
00:30:20,785 --> 00:30:23,185
Evidence we think
a jury will find convincing.
599
00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:25,917
Celeste McClure will
go to prison
600
00:30:25,957 --> 00:30:27,925
for a long time.
601
00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:31,292
People in this
state would never forget her.
602
00:30:31,329 --> 00:30:34,298
Fine. Make her a martyr.
603
00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:37,563
But Celeste McClure is a young kid.
604
00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:40,594
Are you going to let her
rot behind bars?
605
00:30:41,606 --> 00:30:45,337
Rose, don't say anything
until we've talked.
606
00:30:45,376 --> 00:30:47,742
This meeting is over.
607
00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:52,974
You never heard
their names mentioned?
608
00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:56,145
Schwimmer or McClure?
609
00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:57,814
Never.
610
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,950
Anything you remember about
the day of the bombing?
611
00:31:00,992 --> 00:31:04,519
Anything you've thought about
since you talked with the police?
612
00:31:04,562 --> 00:31:07,759
Mary said she
was taking the day off...
613
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,858
shopping.
614
00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:13,393
Patrick, her boyfriend,
he came to drive her to school.
615
00:31:13,438 --> 00:31:17,033
They had an argument outside.
616
00:31:17,075 --> 00:31:19,339
Couples have arguments.
617
00:31:19,377 --> 00:31:21,345
It was serious enough, Jeffrey,
618
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:23,040
for Kevin to try to break it up.
619
00:31:24,048 --> 00:31:26,812
Your son here
that early in the morning a lot?
620
00:31:26,851 --> 00:31:28,648
He stops by occasionally.
621
00:31:28,686 --> 00:31:30,313
Not that often.
622
00:31:30,355 --> 00:31:32,323
What was the argument about?
623
00:31:32,357 --> 00:31:34,723
Something Patrick had with him.
624
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:36,454
Nothing.
625
00:31:36,494 --> 00:31:38,792
An envelope.
Nothing?
626
00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:40,821
So why did
we hear them yelling?
627
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,530
Our daughter did what she did
628
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:47,129
out of her own conscience.
629
00:31:47,171 --> 00:31:49,639
We can live with that.
630
00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:51,266
You can live with that, Jeffrey!
631
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:54,176
A martyr will never
be able to tell me
632
00:31:54,212 --> 00:31:56,976
what a wonderful day she had
at school yesterday.
633
00:31:57,015 --> 00:31:59,245
A martyr will never
have a wedding.
634
00:31:59,284 --> 00:32:01,445
A martyr will never
have children.
635
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,727
I wanted to go to Barbados.
636
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,321
I brought her a brochure.
637
00:32:12,363 --> 00:32:14,354
I thought it would
convince her.
638
00:32:15,366 --> 00:32:17,197
That's what was
in the envelope.
639
00:32:17,235 --> 00:32:19,726
That's all it was about?
Her parents...
640
00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:23,502
She felt it would look bad
641
00:32:23,541 --> 00:32:26,032
if we went together
not married.
642
00:32:26,077 --> 00:32:30,639
She said I was being
insensitive to their feelings.
643
00:32:33,551 --> 00:32:35,348
I had it all planned.
644
00:32:35,386 --> 00:32:37,616
A romantic place...
645
00:32:37,655 --> 00:32:40,954
it's stupid.
646
00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:43,620
I guess I felt I needed
the right setting.
647
00:32:45,263 --> 00:32:48,460
I was going to ask her
to marry me.
648
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,734
It wasn't that big a fight.
649
00:32:54,772 --> 00:32:56,467
So why did you get involved?
650
00:32:56,507 --> 00:32:58,202
I went out to talk to them.
651
00:32:58,242 --> 00:32:59,732
Your mother heard you yelling.
652
00:32:59,777 --> 00:33:02,439
Patrick said your sister
was upset.
653
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,209
There was no fight.
654
00:33:04,248 --> 00:33:06,409
You're lying, Kevin!
What are you gonna do?
655
00:33:06,451 --> 00:33:08,646
You want to charge me
with the bombing of the clinic?
656
00:33:08,686 --> 00:33:11,951
You can count on it,
if I find you're covering up a crime.
657
00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:16,926
I don't know anything
about the bombing.
658
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,665
We'll call you if we need you.
659
00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,537
The Donovan ID?
The other fingerprints?
660
00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:31,565
Got a match? Just came
in from washington.
661
00:33:31,609 --> 00:33:33,236
He'd been in the army.
662
00:33:33,277 --> 00:33:35,142
Who?
The boyfriend...
663
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:37,170
Patrick Dunn.
664
00:33:39,617 --> 00:33:42,017
By themselves,
the fingerprints aren't proof.
665
00:33:42,053 --> 00:33:44,647
She could have
shown him the card...
666
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:47,783
without telling him she was
gonna use it to plant a bomb.
667
00:33:47,825 --> 00:33:49,452
We need something else.
668
00:33:49,494 --> 00:33:51,792
Yeah. The brother
has a story,
669
00:33:51,829 --> 00:33:54,059
boyfriend another.
670
00:33:54,098 --> 00:33:57,898
What about if we arrest Patrick
671
00:33:57,935 --> 00:34:00,233
as a co-conspirator?
672
00:34:00,271 --> 00:34:02,068
Based on the prints?
673
00:34:02,106 --> 00:34:04,734
I don't want him arraigned
if you don't think he's guilty.
674
00:34:04,776 --> 00:34:07,404
I don't know if he's guilty,
but let's arrest him anyway,
675
00:34:07,445 --> 00:34:09,538
not arraign him till tomorrow,
put him in a room with Kevin...
676
00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:12,378
And see what shakes loose. Yeah.
677
00:34:12,417 --> 00:34:14,578
The charge is arson
and conspiracy.
678
00:34:14,619 --> 00:34:16,746
I'm not involved
in that bombing.
679
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:19,018
You can call your lawyer
in a few minutes.
680
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:23,527
This is unbelievable.
681
00:34:24,762 --> 00:34:26,195
What's he doing here?
682
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:28,323
Is he being arrested too?
683
00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:29,993
Arrested?
Mary's false ID card.
684
00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:31,592
Patrick's fingerprints
are on it.
685
00:34:31,636 --> 00:34:34,002
Did you get it for her
so she could do the bombing?
686
00:34:34,038 --> 00:34:36,006
Makes you co-conspirator.
687
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,600
I'm not going to jail, Kevin.
688
00:34:38,643 --> 00:34:40,611
I can prove I wasn't involved.
689
00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:41,873
Mary wasn't involved either.
690
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,540
Shut up! Shut up!
691
00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:44,570
Hey!
692
00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:54,254
All he wanted was
for her to be a martyr
693
00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:55,589
instead of a sinner.
694
00:34:55,626 --> 00:34:58,652
She didn't go there
to bomb the clinic.
695
00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:02,029
She was pregnant.
696
00:35:03,401 --> 00:35:05,631
She was there
to have an abortion.
697
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:08,366
She was there to kill our baby.
698
00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:15,846
She was ashamed.
699
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,848
She thought if her parents
found out...
700
00:35:17,882 --> 00:35:20,350
You wanted to marry her. That
would have solved everything.
701
00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:21,874
It doesn't matter.
702
00:35:21,919 --> 00:35:24,513
The baby comes early,
everybody knows.
703
00:35:24,555 --> 00:35:27,524
So, under a false name
she'd have an abortion.
704
00:35:27,558 --> 00:35:29,423
That morning
705
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,985
I gave her the ID and the money
706
00:35:32,029 --> 00:35:33,462
so that she could...
707
00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:38,133
I pleaded with her
to at least let me take her.
708
00:35:38,169 --> 00:35:40,763
I pleaded.
709
00:35:44,342 --> 00:35:46,071
With arson you could
be a martyr.
710
00:35:46,110 --> 00:35:48,476
With conspiracy you could
still be a martyr.
711
00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:52,472
But Ms. McClure, now-
nowwe are talking about murder.
712
00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:56,643
I didn't kill anybody.
713
00:35:56,687 --> 00:35:58,951
Mary Donovan did not
get hit by a car.
714
00:35:59,023 --> 00:36:00,786
Tell her, Mr. Ballard.
715
00:36:04,629 --> 00:36:07,723
It's not six years
in jail anymore.
716
00:36:07,765 --> 00:36:10,063
You'll never
get her for manslaughter.
717
00:36:10,101 --> 00:36:13,036
Manslaughter? we are now talking
about murder in the second degree...
718
00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:14,765
depraved indifference
to human life.
719
00:36:14,805 --> 00:36:15,829
You're out of your mind.
720
00:36:15,873 --> 00:36:18,501
15 years to life behind bars.
721
00:36:18,543 --> 00:36:20,568
I don't want to put
I I you in prison,
722
00:36:20,611 --> 00:36:22,442
but somebody killed
Mary Donovan.
723
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,472
An innocent woman died.
That is murder.
724
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:28,144
That makes you no better
than the people you oppose.
725
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,154
Counselor, she's a kid.
726
00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,519
You said so yourself.
727
00:36:34,292 --> 00:36:36,522
Mary Donovan was a kid, too.
728
00:36:36,561 --> 00:36:38,688
Ask her parents.
729
00:36:44,435 --> 00:36:47,268
She pleads on all three counts
outstanding.
730
00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:48,829
You recommend
minimum sentences.
731
00:36:48,873 --> 00:36:51,671
She testifies against nobody.
732
00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:54,872
If this was Schwimmer's idea,
she testifies against her.
733
00:36:54,912 --> 00:36:56,880
We drop down to conspiracy six,
arson four.
734
00:36:56,914 --> 00:37:00,008
She pleads to criminally
negligent homicide.
735
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:01,382
She does six months.
736
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,513
Celeste, do you understand?
737
00:37:07,525 --> 00:37:09,686
If I thought anyone
would get hurt,
738
00:37:09,727 --> 00:37:12,195
I wouldn't have
given Rose the bomb.
739
00:37:14,532 --> 00:37:17,092
The charges here are conspiracy
in the second degree,
740
00:37:17,134 --> 00:37:20,228
arson in the second degree,
murder in the second degree.
741
00:37:20,271 --> 00:37:22,364
Does the defendant wish
to enter a plea?
742
00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:24,169
Not guilty, Your Honor.
743
00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:26,699
If it pleases the court,
we're requesting bail.
744
00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:27,972
Mr. Stone?
745
00:37:28,012 --> 00:37:31,277
Ms. Schwimmer has been convicted
of several misdemeanors,
746
00:37:31,315 --> 00:37:32,942
and has made
every court appearance,
747
00:37:32,984 --> 00:37:34,611
however, j j in our experience,
748
00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:36,711
activists accused
of more serious crimes
749
00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:39,279
have sometimes decided
to work for their cause
750
00:37:39,323 --> 00:37:41,791
from behind the scenes-
far behind.
751
00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:43,794
Therefore, the people recommend
752
00:37:43,828 --> 00:37:45,625
the defendant be held
without bail.
753
00:37:45,663 --> 00:37:48,826
Your Honor, there's no reason to
believe the defendant is a flight risk.
754
00:37:48,866 --> 00:37:51,494
Mr. Stone, I'm inclined
to agree with Mr. Malloy.
755
00:37:51,535 --> 00:37:55,471
What applies generally may not
apply specifically to this defendant.
756
00:37:55,506 --> 00:37:56,564
I understand.
757
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,575
But this is a homicide,
Mr. Malloy,
758
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:00,702
with two additional
felony charges.
759
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:04,007
Bail is set at...
760
00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:07,415
$300, 000.
761
00:38:09,553 --> 00:38:11,384
Regardless of
your personal feelings,
762
00:38:11,422 --> 00:38:14,016
you are not being asked
to decide a moral issue.
763
00:38:14,058 --> 00:38:16,526
You are being asked
to decide a legal issue.
764
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,256
The crime is the murder
of a young woman
765
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:20,924
by an exploding bomb.
766
00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:23,593
And that woman,
Ms. Rose Schwimmer,
767
00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:26,194
is accused of placing a bomb
768
00:38:26,237 --> 00:38:29,035
with depraved indifference
to human life...
769
00:38:29,073 --> 00:38:31,371
indifference to anyone
it might hurt.
770
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:36,142
You may hear the arguments
that the ends justify the means,
771
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:39,741
that an illegal act is
somehow justified
772
00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:41,376
by a moral cause.
773
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:43,785
If you're even tempted
to agree with that argument,
774
00:38:43,821 --> 00:38:45,288
please remember,
775
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:48,121
killing is not only
against the law,
776
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,389
it is also immoral.
777
00:38:50,428 --> 00:38:52,794
And if anyone suggests to you
778
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,458
that morality and law
are somehow in conflict,
779
00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:58,059
I ask you to remember that.
780
00:38:58,102 --> 00:39:00,900
Is fertilizer and diesel fuel
781
00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:02,906
a commonly known explosive?
782
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:04,999
They blow mountains
apart with it.
783
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:07,977
Did you find
actual pieces of the bomb?
784
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,775
That's correct.
Fragments of it
785
00:39:09,814 --> 00:39:11,941
were coated with
the fertilizer compound.
786
00:39:11,982 --> 00:39:14,473
Did you make a comparison
between that compound
787
00:39:14,518 --> 00:39:17,112
and the fertilizer taken
from the community garden?
788
00:39:17,154 --> 00:39:19,452
I did.
What were the results?
789
00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:21,321
They were chemically identical.
790
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,452
Thank you.
No further questions, Your Honor.
791
00:39:23,494 --> 00:39:25,394
Mr. Oliver,
792
00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:28,557
is the chemical
in the fertilizer in question
793
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,500
available as a chemical
other than in that particular fertilizer?
794
00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:35,767
Yes. Other manufacturers
make the same formulation.
795
00:39:35,806 --> 00:39:38,900
And is it also available
just as a chemical compound
796
00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:40,774
that has nothing to do
with fertilizer?
797
00:39:40,811 --> 00:39:42,506
Yes.
798
00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:46,573
So the nitrate in the bomb could
have come from somewhere else?
799
00:39:46,617 --> 00:39:49,415
It's remotely possible.
One in a million.
800
00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:51,421
Thank you.
No more questions.
801
00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:54,857
Demanding police
protection for abortion clinics,
802
00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:57,190
an estimated 10, 000
pro-choice demonstrators
803
00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:58,695
marched down 1 Oth Avenue.
804
00:40:00,297 --> 00:40:02,731
It's only going to get worse.
805
00:40:02,767 --> 00:40:04,758
Luckily, that ain't my problem.
806
00:40:07,104 --> 00:40:09,334
We're willing
to consider a plea.
807
00:40:09,373 --> 00:40:10,806
Manslaughter two.
808
00:40:10,841 --> 00:40:13,571
Mary Donovan was
the perfect martyr.
809
00:40:13,611 --> 00:40:15,704
You should have
left it that way.
810
00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:17,976
And you, hiding behind
a dead woman?
811
00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,983
I don't think the jury
will like that.
812
00:40:20,017 --> 00:40:23,509
Mary Donovan was ready
to kill her baby.
813
00:40:23,554 --> 00:40:26,045
Will the jury like that
any better?
814
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,558
Mary Donovan is not
on trial here.
815
00:40:28,592 --> 00:40:30,617
She will be.
816
00:40:30,661 --> 00:40:34,028
She conspired to commit murder.
817
00:40:36,133 --> 00:40:39,193
Are you admitting that
Mary didn't plant the bomb?
818
00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:48,907
In this state, capital punishment
is against the law.
819
00:40:48,946 --> 00:40:51,915
Yet, you're ready to risk
your own form of capital punishment
820
00:40:51,949 --> 00:40:54,315
against people you consider
deserving of it?
821
00:40:54,351 --> 00:40:56,376
They do deserve it.
822
00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:58,786
This isn't getting us anywhere.
823
00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:01,053
Come on, Rose.
824
00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:07,594
Ms. Schwimmer?
825
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,267
I think you should reconsider.
826
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:15,534
I don't make deals
with the devil.
827
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,341
Two and a half months ago,
828
00:41:24,381 --> 00:41:26,474
did Ms. McClure
come into your store
829
00:41:26,517 --> 00:41:27,814
and place her usual order?
830
00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:29,479
Yes, she did.
831
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,613
Did she add
anything unusual to it?
832
00:41:31,655 --> 00:41:33,486
Objection. Characterization.
833
00:41:33,524 --> 00:41:35,151
Sustained.
834
00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:37,820
Did Ms. McClure's
purchases include
835
00:41:37,862 --> 00:41:40,831
anything she did not make
on a regular basis?
836
00:41:40,865 --> 00:41:44,232
Yes. A 50-pound bag
of fertilizer
837
00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:46,736
with a special nitrate formula.
838
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:48,533
Did that strike you as strange?
839
00:41:48,572 --> 00:41:51,632
It's used mostly
for palm trees.
840
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:54,508
I told her
it would kill her plants.
841
00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:56,672
I had to special order it.
842
00:41:56,714 --> 00:41:59,114
On that day when Ms. McClure
ordered the fertilizer,
843
00:41:59,149 --> 00:42:00,673
was anyone with her?
844
00:42:00,718 --> 00:42:01,946
Yes.
845
00:42:01,986 --> 00:42:04,318
Is that person
in this courtroom?
846
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:05,652
Yes.
847
00:42:05,689 --> 00:42:07,850
Would you point
that person out for the jury?
848
00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:11,693
She's sitting right over there.
849
00:42:11,729 --> 00:42:13,697
You Honor, may the record show
850
00:42:13,731 --> 00:42:15,699
that she's pointing
to the defendant?
851
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:17,724
Let the record so indicate.
852
00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:22,402
Rose said...
853
00:42:22,439 --> 00:42:25,636
talking, marching...
854
00:42:25,676 --> 00:42:28,804
it wasn't stopping
the abortions.
855
00:42:28,846 --> 00:42:31,474
She was right.
856
00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:35,576
Every day, more babies
were being murdered.
857
00:42:35,619 --> 00:42:37,746
Did Ms. Schwimmer talk
about the bombings
858
00:42:37,788 --> 00:42:40,052
in front of the other members
of women for Life?
859
00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:43,722
She said they
wouldn't understand.
860
00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:47,754
And...
861
00:42:47,798 --> 00:42:51,700
that if it was
just the two of us,
862
00:42:51,735 --> 00:42:54,260
nobody would find out.
863
00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:56,637
When did you give
Ms. Schwimmer the bomb?
864
00:42:56,674 --> 00:43:00,041
I met her for brunch
that morning,
865
00:43:00,077 --> 00:43:02,477
at Lazy Jane's
866
00:43:02,513 --> 00:43:04,606
on 7th Avenue.
867
00:43:04,648 --> 00:43:06,616
Tell the jury what happened then.
868
00:43:08,652 --> 00:43:09,778
Ms. McClure?
869
00:43:12,723 --> 00:43:14,486
Rose...
870
00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:16,755
said she would
go out the back door.
871
00:43:16,794 --> 00:43:19,422
It's next to the ladies room.
872
00:43:21,732 --> 00:43:23,723
She said...
873
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:25,394
she could get down the alley
874
00:43:25,436 --> 00:43:28,166
and back within 10 minutes.
875
00:43:29,773 --> 00:43:32,241
She told me to wait
for five minutes,
876
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,676
and then call the clinic
and warn them.
877
00:43:34,712 --> 00:43:36,202
Did you make the call?
878
00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:37,770
Yes.
879
00:43:37,815 --> 00:43:39,806
Your Honor, I would like
to enter into evidence
880
00:43:39,850 --> 00:43:41,818
telephone company records
showing calls
881
00:43:41,852 --> 00:43:44,116
made from the pay phone
882
00:43:44,154 --> 00:43:47,146
of the Lazy Jane Restaurant
on the day of the bombing.
883
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,352
No further questions,
Your Honor.
884
00:43:57,568 --> 00:43:59,297
Is defense ready
for its summation?
885
00:43:59,336 --> 00:44:01,861
Your Honor, at this time,
886
00:44:01,905 --> 00:44:03,896
against advice of counsel,
887
00:44:03,941 --> 00:44:07,069
the defendant wishes
to testify in her own behalf.
888
00:44:07,111 --> 00:44:09,272
Ms. Schwimmer,
889
00:44:09,313 --> 00:44:11,838
you realize you'll be subject
to cross-examination?
890
00:44:11,882 --> 00:44:13,645
I do, Your Honor.
891
00:44:13,684 --> 00:44:15,675
I urge you to reconsider.
892
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,550
Listen to advice of counsel.
893
00:44:17,588 --> 00:44:21,786
However, I won't prevent you
from testifying.
894
00:44:38,275 --> 00:44:40,800
Do you swear to tell the truth,
so help you God?
895
00:44:40,844 --> 00:44:42,778
I certainly do.
896
00:44:45,249 --> 00:44:47,046
Ms. Schwimmer,
897
00:44:47,084 --> 00:44:49,644
did you conspire
with Celeste McClure
898
00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:52,918
to bomb the Chelsea
women's Choice Center,
899
00:44:52,956 --> 00:44:55,322
as well as seven
other abortion clinics?
900
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:57,088
Yes, I did.
901
00:44:59,229 --> 00:45:02,357
Then you're guilty
of the charges leveled against you?
902
00:45:02,399 --> 00:45:04,993
Not before God.
903
00:45:05,035 --> 00:45:07,299
Can you explain
why you're innocent before God?
904
00:45:07,337 --> 00:45:10,795
Objection, this case is being judged
on the temporal plane, Your Honor.
905
00:45:10,841 --> 00:45:12,103
Sustained.
906
00:45:12,142 --> 00:45:14,133
How dare you object,
Mr. Stone?
907
00:45:14,178 --> 00:45:16,738
We've done our homework.
You were baptized.
908
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:20,580
You go to communion, and you
That's enough.
909
00:45:20,617 --> 00:45:23,381
All the abortions in that clinic
are murder, and you know it.
910
00:45:23,420 --> 00:45:25,650
Your Honor?
It must stop!
911
00:45:25,689 --> 00:45:27,919
Mary Donovan's death
was tragic,
912
00:45:27,958 --> 00:45:31,860
But if it prevents one abortion,
the scales are balanced.
913
00:45:31,895 --> 00:45:34,090
Abortion must end!
914
00:45:34,131 --> 00:45:36,599
Ms. Schwimmer, that will
be all! Are we a nation
915
00:45:36,633 --> 00:45:39,500
who can tolerate the abortionist
sticking his hand
916
00:45:39,536 --> 00:45:42,130
in a mother's womb
and strangling God's creation?
917
00:45:42,172 --> 00:45:44,504
The court officer will
remove Ms. Schwimmer!
918
00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:47,840
Your Honor, I have only one question
to ask of the defendant.
919
00:45:47,878 --> 00:45:49,641
Which is?
920
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,172
If abortion is murder, no matter
how you feel about Mary Donovan,
921
00:45:53,217 --> 00:45:56,050
aren't you guilty of the murder
of her unborn child?
922
00:46:14,071 --> 00:46:16,232
On the first
count in the indictment,
923
00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:18,935
the charge of conspiracy
in the second degree,
924
00:46:18,976 --> 00:46:20,068
how do you find?
925
00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:22,635
We find the defendant guilty.
926
00:46:24,548 --> 00:46:25,913
On the second count,
927
00:46:25,949 --> 00:46:28,816
the charge of arson
in the second degree,
928
00:46:28,852 --> 00:46:29,978
how do you find?
929
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:32,511
We find the defendant guilty.
930
00:46:33,824 --> 00:46:36,816
The third count,
murder in the second degree,
931
00:46:36,860 --> 00:46:40,159
how do you find?
We find the defendant guilty.
932
00:46:47,171 --> 00:46:48,536
What do we say to people
933
00:46:48,572 --> 00:46:51,700
who know she committed a criminal act,
but don't think she's a criminal?
934
00:46:51,742 --> 00:46:54,677
That's easy. A criminal is
someone who commits a criminal act...
935
00:46:54,711 --> 00:46:56,372
for any reason.
936
00:46:56,413 --> 00:46:59,211
But up until Roe v. wade,
the abortionists were the criminals.
937
00:46:59,249 --> 00:47:01,683
If the law hadn't changed,
there never would have been a bombing.
938
00:47:01,718 --> 00:47:03,777
If the law hadn't changed,
I'd be a slave.
939
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:05,652
You can't turn back the clock.69493
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