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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,215 --> 00:00:08,925 Can you take me back to jail and shit? 2 00:00:09,050 --> 00:00:10,301 Trust is hard to get. 3 00:00:10,427 --> 00:00:11,570 I don't have to follow that shit. 4 00:00:11,594 --> 00:00:13,138 The declaration of independence. 5 00:00:13,263 --> 00:00:15,140 You guys are fucking pathetic. 6 00:00:15,265 --> 00:00:17,475 Ali is a rising star on TikTok 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,269 with almost a million followers. 8 00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:20,687 Yo, like, literally 9 00:00:20,812 --> 00:00:22,731 you're motherfucking beautiful for me. 10 00:00:22,856 --> 00:00:25,275 I want you to say, "Y'all know the fucking vibes." 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,193 Y'all... 12 00:00:27,318 --> 00:00:29,779 Ana's one of the most beautiful people on the planet. 13 00:00:29,904 --> 00:00:32,115 The woman could be like Miss America. 14 00:00:34,659 --> 00:00:36,661 Ali and Ana, they fell in love the second 15 00:00:36,786 --> 00:00:38,121 they laid eyes upon each other. 16 00:00:38,246 --> 00:00:39,956 It all seems so perfect. 17 00:00:40,081 --> 00:00:42,334 On TikTok all it takes is one video. 18 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:43,793 You could wake up the next morning 19 00:00:43,918 --> 00:00:45,670 and your whole life could be changed. 20 00:00:45,795 --> 00:00:47,672 I remember coming across the video 21 00:00:47,797 --> 00:00:50,383 that had probably 2.4 million views. 22 00:00:50,508 --> 00:00:52,427 And I was like, "Oh my God, this is Ana." 23 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:56,765 It's hard to sometimes separate that online persona 24 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,517 to who you truly are in the real world. 25 00:00:59,642 --> 00:01:01,311 Me, I want what's coming. 26 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:04,189 The world... 27 00:01:04,814 --> 00:01:06,566 and everything in it. 28 00:01:06,691 --> 00:01:08,411 And that's when things start to hit the fan. 29 00:01:08,526 --> 00:01:09,861 I'm a fucking god! 30 00:01:09,986 --> 00:01:11,529 I'm a fucking internet celebrity! 31 00:01:12,197 --> 00:01:13,907 - Give me my phone back! - Close the door! 32 00:01:14,032 --> 00:01:15,700 You're hurting my fucking finger! 33 00:01:15,825 --> 00:01:18,244 Ali actually starts recording with his phone. 34 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:21,456 Some of the things that we would never expect him to record. 35 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:24,209 - I can fix it. - You think that 36 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:27,128 and then you wake up and you're mad again, so stop. 37 00:01:29,339 --> 00:01:31,424 You're my woman, bitch! 38 00:01:31,549 --> 00:01:33,051 I brought you to this goddamn country. 39 00:01:33,176 --> 00:01:34,969 You should be kissing my feet! 40 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:36,614 The internet can be such an evil place. 41 00:01:36,638 --> 00:01:38,431 You're need people like me 42 00:01:38,556 --> 00:01:41,184 so you can point your fucking fingers. 43 00:01:41,309 --> 00:01:42,727 I say, that's the bad guy. 44 00:01:43,645 --> 00:01:46,606 All I could think about was this is not gonna end well. 45 00:01:56,241 --> 00:01:58,034 A double homicide inside 46 00:01:58,159 --> 00:01:59,661 an East Village high rise. 47 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:34,320 Ana? Ana? 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,167 It's not surprising that TikTok is successful. 49 00:02:47,292 --> 00:02:48,835 It's really entertaining. 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,046 It's addictive and it's really quick. 51 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:53,011 So it's, like, really satisfying to just, like, 52 00:02:53,131 --> 00:02:55,425 get these little bite-sized bits of content 53 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:58,178 that are just so easy to consume and easy to share. 54 00:02:59,387 --> 00:03:01,222 It can track, like, what grabs your attention 55 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:04,434 in the first second and what keeps you watching. 56 00:03:10,231 --> 00:03:12,150 Once you watch something a couple times, 57 00:03:12,275 --> 00:03:13,985 it'll just feed you more and more of that. 58 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:16,363 The algorithm is just really good at keeping you 59 00:03:16,488 --> 00:03:18,990 on the app, keeping you scrolling. 60 00:03:19,115 --> 00:03:23,244 And by 2022, it was the most downloaded app in the world. 61 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:29,334 My name's Andrea Marks. 62 00:03:29,459 --> 00:03:31,252 I'm a journalist and I often report 63 00:03:31,378 --> 00:03:34,005 on the intersection of social media and crime. 64 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:36,466 What drew me to this story was that 65 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:38,301 I like writing about crimes 66 00:03:38,426 --> 00:03:42,055 which portray this very interesting section of humanity 67 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:44,849 and human behavior and it makes you wonder 68 00:03:44,974 --> 00:03:47,227 what would drive a person to do something like that. 69 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:50,605 So that was initially why I covered it for Rolling Stone. 70 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:59,030 TikTok's perfect for Ali, and Ali's perfect for TikTok. 71 00:03:59,155 --> 00:04:00,323 No! Fuck not! 72 00:04:00,448 --> 00:04:01,866 Ali likes to make 73 00:04:01,991 --> 00:04:04,202 this kind of short form content. 74 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:05,787 He's doing these impressions. 75 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:08,915 The sun is shining on my face. I'm blessed. 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,250 John Wick. 77 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:13,670 It wasn't just a dog, it was my wife. 78 00:04:13,795 --> 00:04:15,046 Nicholas Cage. 79 00:04:15,171 --> 00:04:17,257 Well, there's a map on the back. 80 00:04:17,382 --> 00:04:19,801 You... you can't see it, but I can see it. 81 00:04:19,926 --> 00:04:22,762 And his most famous one, Tony Montana from Scarface. 82 00:04:22,887 --> 00:04:26,057 I told you, man. I told you. No fucking kids! 83 00:04:26,182 --> 00:04:28,351 You know, TikTok is the perfect platform for that 84 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:31,896 because it's grabby, it's quick and he can put out a lot of it. 85 00:04:32,022 --> 00:04:33,940 Say hello to my little friend. 86 00:04:36,192 --> 00:04:38,236 But not everything on social media 87 00:04:38,361 --> 00:04:40,739 and not everything on TikTok is what it seems. 88 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:06,514 You're gonna be totally fine. 89 00:05:12,354 --> 00:05:14,856 Well, you guys have caused a lot of buzz 90 00:05:14,981 --> 00:05:17,817 within the friend group. 91 00:05:20,236 --> 00:05:22,489 Honestly, it connected a lot of us. 92 00:05:22,614 --> 00:05:24,866 We were kind of mourning on our own. 93 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:36,503 I just want Ana's side of the story to be heard. 94 00:05:36,628 --> 00:05:38,755 I personally witnessed everything 95 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,840 that she was going through. 96 00:05:40,965 --> 00:05:41,965 And... 97 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:45,053 she was just trying to keep it all together. 98 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:56,564 My name is Louie. I'm Ali Abulaban's cousin. 99 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:59,484 And me and Ali have been close since I was very young. 100 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:03,988 I feel that this whole situation has, 101 00:06:04,114 --> 00:06:05,907 you know, turned my life upside down 102 00:06:06,032 --> 00:06:08,493 as well as turned my family's life upside down. 103 00:06:11,121 --> 00:06:12,789 It's gonna take a very long time 104 00:06:12,914 --> 00:06:15,583 to recover from this for all of us. 105 00:06:24,175 --> 00:06:25,969 Ali comes from a Middle Eastern family 106 00:06:26,094 --> 00:06:28,138 that happens to be Muslim. 107 00:06:28,263 --> 00:06:31,516 A more religious household so it was stricter environment. 108 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:33,768 Ali was a free spirit 109 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:35,645 and didn't really follow religion. 110 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:37,313 He did what he wanted to do. 111 00:06:38,481 --> 00:06:40,734 I remember watching him do all these different dances 112 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:43,194 and singing and all different types of stuff. 113 00:06:46,531 --> 00:06:47,907 It's what he was meant to do. 114 00:06:48,033 --> 00:06:50,285 I really believe Ali was meant to be a star. 115 00:06:58,251 --> 00:07:00,628 Ali joined the Air Force when he was in his late teens, 116 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:02,005 like 18, 19. 117 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:03,548 I think joining the military 118 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:05,508 was a sense of Ali wanting to, like, 119 00:07:05,633 --> 00:07:09,262 improve himself, you know, physically, mentally. 120 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:11,056 I think he wanted to serve his country. 121 00:07:11,181 --> 00:07:14,976 Ali was stationed in Okinawa, Japan. 122 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:16,811 A lot of people in the military actually 123 00:07:16,936 --> 00:07:19,939 get stationed in Okinawa for two to three years. 124 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:25,195 Okinawa is a huge American military base. 125 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,864 It's hot, it's tropical, 126 00:07:27,989 --> 00:07:30,075 it's beautiful, it's fun. 127 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,577 When you're on this island together, 128 00:07:32,702 --> 00:07:35,747 you create these friendships that just never go away. 129 00:07:44,923 --> 00:07:47,759 Ana and I grew up together in Okinawa. 130 00:07:47,884 --> 00:07:50,136 She's from the Philippines 131 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:53,223 and her dad was stationed in Okinawa. 132 00:07:53,348 --> 00:07:55,266 We were best friends 133 00:07:55,392 --> 00:07:57,477 and we had a very tight-knit friend group. 134 00:07:57,602 --> 00:08:00,438 And Ana was one of the more, like, caring, 135 00:08:00,563 --> 00:08:03,400 loving, happy individual. 136 00:08:03,525 --> 00:08:05,193 That's what drew me to her. 137 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,905 I don't think my life would personally be the same 138 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:10,740 if she was never my friend. 139 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:13,284 And so I'm very thankful for the friendship 140 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:15,662 that her and I had shared together. 141 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:25,171 Ali and Ana met in 2014. 142 00:08:25,296 --> 00:08:27,799 She was attracted to his big personality. 143 00:08:27,924 --> 00:08:30,343 And he was a singer in a band 144 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:32,887 and she found that very attractive as well. 145 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:37,851 I think she saw someone that was successful, 146 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:40,020 that had a good head on his shoulders. 147 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:42,230 He had a good ranking in the military. 148 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:45,567 And they had a lot of laughter and love. 149 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:48,611 At first, I did feel that 150 00:08:48,737 --> 00:08:50,739 she was very happy and they were happy together. 151 00:08:51,823 --> 00:08:55,535 But then Ali got in trouble with the military. 152 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:58,788 He had gotten drunk and gotten into a fight 153 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:02,751 with one of Ana's friends and allegedly assaulted them. 154 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:07,797 Ali does have a very strong personality. 155 00:09:07,922 --> 00:09:10,383 He definitely is jealous. 156 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:14,304 Every time anyone would comment on Ana's looks 157 00:09:14,429 --> 00:09:17,849 or how lucky of a guy he was to have somebody like Ana, 158 00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:20,101 he would be very bothered. 159 00:09:20,769 --> 00:09:22,604 I let her know my concerns. 160 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:25,607 I told her I feel like he's a little bit controlling 161 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:29,861 and she explained to me that, "He is but I love him. 162 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:31,613 You have nothing to worry about." 163 00:09:32,864 --> 00:09:35,992 But I just remember feeling uneasy around him. 164 00:09:38,536 --> 00:09:40,288 When Ali got in a fight, 165 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:44,626 what he had done was so extreme it got him discharged. 166 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:52,926 Once you've disrespected the island and the rules, 167 00:09:53,051 --> 00:09:55,011 they will kick you off the island. 168 00:09:58,390 --> 00:10:00,558 Ali moves back to Virginia 169 00:10:00,684 --> 00:10:02,519 and his parents were not happy. 170 00:10:02,644 --> 00:10:03,812 They really wanted their son 171 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:05,772 to be successful in the Air Force. 172 00:10:05,897 --> 00:10:07,732 They wanted their son to be successful 173 00:10:07,857 --> 00:10:09,734 in everything that he would do. 174 00:10:12,237 --> 00:10:15,490 At the same time, Ana's family was leaving Okinawa 175 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:17,701 and they were moving back to the Philippines. 176 00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:23,331 I'm Rachel and... 177 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:25,417 Ana is not only 178 00:10:25,542 --> 00:10:28,169 just a best friend but family. 179 00:10:28,294 --> 00:10:31,047 Where we came from, we only had each other. 180 00:10:32,257 --> 00:10:34,509 When Ana moved back to the Philippines, 181 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:36,428 we lived about 182 00:10:36,553 --> 00:10:39,180 20 minutes away from each other. 183 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:42,809 Ana was living at home with her family 184 00:10:42,934 --> 00:10:45,186 and at that point she found out 185 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:47,981 that she was pregnant with Ali's child. 186 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:52,819 She was excited and nervous, but more excited than anything. 187 00:10:53,361 --> 00:10:55,989 So, in this time, 188 00:10:56,114 --> 00:10:58,908 Ali wanted to apply for a visa for Ana. 189 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:04,122 While doing that, Ana waited in the Philippines. 190 00:11:04,247 --> 00:11:06,166 And eight months later, 191 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:08,960 their baby girl, Amira, was born. 192 00:11:12,047 --> 00:11:14,174 It takes time before you get 193 00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:16,343 marriage visa in the Philippines. 194 00:11:16,468 --> 00:11:21,014 So, by the time Amira was nine months... 195 00:11:21,931 --> 00:11:25,101 he finally was able to bring Ana to Virginia. 196 00:11:28,063 --> 00:11:30,357 - Hi, baby. - Hi baby. 197 00:11:30,482 --> 00:11:32,776 Oh, she's so cute. 198 00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:42,327 Ali and Ana decided to go to Northern Virginia 199 00:11:42,452 --> 00:11:45,080 because Ali's entire family is there. 200 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:49,292 Ana liked Virginia, she loved Ali's family. 201 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:50,877 They didn't have a wedding, 202 00:11:51,002 --> 00:11:52,282 they just went to the courthouse. 203 00:11:53,213 --> 00:11:56,299 Ali and Ana get their own home and they started their family. 204 00:11:56,841 --> 00:11:58,635 Ana was a beautiful woman 205 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,054 and she was also creative just like Ali. 206 00:12:01,179 --> 00:12:03,807 And I just saw like a match made in heaven. 207 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:14,401 - Hey, what's up guys? - Yo, what's good, Jinn? 208 00:12:14,526 --> 00:12:17,445 In Virginia, Ali starts to produce content 209 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:20,907 on a lot of platforms like YouTube and Instagram 210 00:12:21,032 --> 00:12:23,493 and he goes by the online handle JinnKid. 211 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,831 Hey, Jinn, why the fuck you been? 212 00:12:27,956 --> 00:12:29,582 I've been working, man. 213 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:31,418 These bills aren't gonna pay themselves. 214 00:12:31,543 --> 00:12:33,586 Ali created this persona of JinnKid. 215 00:12:33,712 --> 00:12:37,007 JinnKid was an escape from Ali Abulaban 216 00:12:37,132 --> 00:12:38,591 being an actual human. 217 00:12:39,551 --> 00:12:43,054 He wanted to be this different entity that was super famous. 218 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,056 Oh, shit. 219 00:12:45,807 --> 00:12:48,393 Goddammit. I just paid the light bill. 220 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,395 Hey, Jinn. 221 00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:52,772 Maybe it's a power outage, you know? 222 00:12:52,897 --> 00:12:54,333 What don't you check outside the windows. 223 00:12:58,445 --> 00:13:01,281 The word Jinn, pretty much means a ghost 224 00:13:01,406 --> 00:13:04,117 or like a soul or like an entity we cannot see. 225 00:13:04,242 --> 00:13:06,453 And he felt that it was like a unique word 226 00:13:06,578 --> 00:13:09,330 to attach to Kid and it stuck with him 227 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:11,875 and he pretty much wanted everybody to call him JinnKid, 228 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,501 including his own family. 229 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:18,882 Later on, Ali started making TikTok videos. 230 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:23,803 No! Fuck no! 231 00:13:23,928 --> 00:13:26,389 Ali loved making TikTok videos 232 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:28,683 'cause that was pretty much like the new YouTube. 233 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:31,478 It was like his new platform to start a new fan base. 234 00:13:31,603 --> 00:13:33,813 Ah! 235 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:36,983 Success on TikTok is a numbers game 236 00:13:37,108 --> 00:13:39,235 and Ali becomes obsessed with it. 237 00:13:39,361 --> 00:13:41,029 Listen to me, okay. 238 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:43,948 I gotta make that film one day, one way or another. 239 00:13:44,074 --> 00:13:45,450 It's his path to fame. 240 00:13:45,575 --> 00:13:47,827 And ultimately that path reveals 241 00:13:47,952 --> 00:13:50,121 the dark underbelly of social media. Well, 242 00:13:50,246 --> 00:13:52,707 I've got news for you, assholes. 243 00:13:53,124 --> 00:13:55,210 You're all bad people. 244 00:14:00,465 --> 00:14:02,050 - Hey, babe. - Mm-hmm. 245 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:04,847 I want you to try to do the six nine impression. 246 00:14:05,387 --> 00:14:06,638 - Alright. - Okay. 247 00:14:06,763 --> 00:14:08,306 So I'll do it first. All right? 248 00:14:08,431 --> 00:14:10,517 - All right. - Yo, like, literally 249 00:14:10,642 --> 00:14:12,477 you're motherfucking beautiful for me. 250 00:14:12,602 --> 00:14:15,146 I want you to say, "Y'all know the fucking vibes." 251 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:17,315 Y'all... 252 00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:20,068 When they first moved to Virginia, 253 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,153 she was happy, she was in love. 254 00:14:22,278 --> 00:14:23,655 Wait, let's try the Scarface one. 255 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:25,657 Okay. I fucking love you, babe. 256 00:14:25,782 --> 00:14:27,575 I want you to be the love of my life. 257 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:29,911 - Okay. How do I do the face? - I want you... 258 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:32,080 Like this. Like you smell something nasty. 259 00:14:34,916 --> 00:14:38,336 Ali in the videos can be charming. 260 00:14:38,461 --> 00:14:40,046 As Ana's filming him, 261 00:14:40,171 --> 00:14:41,965 you can actually hear her giggle. 262 00:14:42,507 --> 00:14:44,801 I'm trying to save the world. 263 00:14:44,926 --> 00:14:46,594 What are you doing? 264 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:50,432 Ali describes it 265 00:14:50,557 --> 00:14:53,351 as they're living the American dream. 266 00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:56,021 So you're looking at these videos 267 00:14:56,146 --> 00:14:59,733 prior to this case thinking what happened? 268 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:07,574 I'm Lucifer. 269 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:10,910 Lucifer is my online name because not everybody 270 00:15:11,036 --> 00:15:13,204 is comfortable using the real names. 271 00:15:16,666 --> 00:15:19,044 I just wanna keep my online social media platform 272 00:15:19,169 --> 00:15:20,837 private from my personal life. 273 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:24,025 It's good to remain anonymous because you don't want people 274 00:15:24,049 --> 00:15:25,300 trying to track you. 275 00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:30,555 The very first day I met Ali, it was 2019. 276 00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:35,226 He was doing Skyrim videos. 277 00:15:37,645 --> 00:15:40,148 Skyrim is a medieval role-playing game. 278 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,525 Stuck here. Stuck. 279 00:15:48,031 --> 00:15:49,282 Ali was playing characters 280 00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:50,847 he used to interact with in the game. 281 00:15:53,328 --> 00:15:56,831 I see there's potential in Ali. There's lots of talent in there. 282 00:15:57,916 --> 00:16:00,043 So, I just decided to message him and tell him like, 283 00:16:00,168 --> 00:16:03,213 "Hey, let me help you out. I can help you grow." 284 00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:05,340 So I became his social media manager. 285 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:07,967 I would help him out with things like Discord, 286 00:16:08,093 --> 00:16:10,679 Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, 287 00:16:10,804 --> 00:16:12,514 and all kinds of other platforms. 288 00:16:13,473 --> 00:16:16,267 Ali wants to grow his brand so he gets help. 289 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:18,061 Content creators often have a person 290 00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:20,689 or a team of people who help manage their content 291 00:16:20,814 --> 00:16:22,565 and decide when and where to post it. 292 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:25,819 We would talk to each other on a daily basis 293 00:16:25,944 --> 00:16:28,154 and we actually became really close friends. 294 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,287 Ana played a role in some of these videos 295 00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:37,539 that Ali posted on TikTok. 296 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,332 Sometimes Ana's in the video, 297 00:16:39,457 --> 00:16:41,292 sometimes she's filming the videos... 298 00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:51,052 and fans like to see them. 299 00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:53,346 They like to see Ana in the video as well. 300 00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:59,185 Ana was in pretty much any Skyrim video 301 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:00,895 where there was a hand. 302 00:17:01,021 --> 00:17:02,781 Like the hand that follows Ali in the videos, 303 00:17:02,897 --> 00:17:04,232 Ana was the hand. 304 00:17:10,822 --> 00:17:12,657 A lot of times I would call her, 305 00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:14,409 she would tell me that she had to go 306 00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:17,412 because she had to film a short skit for Ali 307 00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:18,788 so they could post it online. 308 00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:21,875 On TikTok, as a creator, 309 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,044 your only goal is to get what you wanna make 310 00:17:24,169 --> 00:17:27,213 in front of as many people as possible. 311 00:17:27,339 --> 00:17:28,965 The more people see what you do, 312 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:30,675 the more people follow you. 313 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,510 It's like the views compound on each other. 314 00:17:34,596 --> 00:17:37,265 Everyone has a chance at virality. 315 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:38,933 All it takes is one video. 316 00:17:46,941 --> 00:17:48,485 So that's what happens for Ali. 317 00:17:49,861 --> 00:17:54,032 He's making TikTok's about the video game Skyrim 318 00:17:54,157 --> 00:17:55,784 and one of them takes off. 319 00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:10,006 I was on online one day and I saw this... 320 00:18:10,131 --> 00:18:12,717 video that was reposted by some of my friends. 321 00:18:17,972 --> 00:18:21,267 And I realized that it was Ali on the video. 322 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:28,775 People really love it. 323 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:31,027 He even got shout outs from Jenna Marbles 324 00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:32,987 and some other folks who are high up 325 00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:34,989 in the social media world. 326 00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:37,117 Jenna Marbles is a longtime YouTuber 327 00:18:37,242 --> 00:18:39,744 and an established talent on social media. 328 00:18:41,204 --> 00:18:43,039 That's the part that kills me. 329 00:18:43,164 --> 00:18:46,668 So for Ali to be getting attention from her is huge. 330 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,545 It makes me laugh so hard. 331 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:50,064 This guy has a whole YouTube channel. 332 00:18:50,088 --> 00:18:52,007 - Is that the name of it? - JinnKid, yes. 333 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:56,219 Ali just kept posting more and more and more. 334 00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:57,637 Each video gains more views, 335 00:18:57,762 --> 00:18:59,681 more followers from that, more likes. 336 00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:01,349 He made little skits outside of Skyrim 337 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,977 and he gained a lot of popularity from that too. 338 00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:06,021 Yo, am I my bad too? 339 00:19:06,146 --> 00:19:07,564 The worst. 340 00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:08,857 You right. You right. 341 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:10,567 Ese... 342 00:19:10,692 --> 00:19:12,527 Shut the fuck up. Okay? 343 00:19:13,445 --> 00:19:15,530 To come in my house to tell us what we do, 344 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,115 what to think, what to feel. 345 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,993 Ali's favorite movie was definitely Scarface. 346 00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:24,873 He was obsessed with Tony Montana. 347 00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:27,083 He really loved impersonating that character. 348 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:31,004 He liked how dramatic Tony Montana is 349 00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:32,881 and the way that he portrays himself. 350 00:19:33,006 --> 00:19:35,300 So say goodnight to the bad guy. 351 00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:37,594 So say goodnight to the bad guy. 352 00:19:38,386 --> 00:19:40,680 All right, Joni, take one, marker. 353 00:19:41,222 --> 00:19:42,682 I'm Dr. Joni Johnston, 354 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:44,207 a clinical and forensic psychologist 355 00:19:44,309 --> 00:19:45,769 and private investigator. 356 00:19:45,894 --> 00:19:47,687 It seems like Ali especially likes 357 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,564 these kind of violent characters. 358 00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:51,566 I got the money, I gotta cash up it to you. 359 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:53,443 - You'll cash up... - I gotta cash up it. 360 00:19:53,568 --> 00:19:55,288 What the fuck you think... Get the fuck off! 361 00:19:55,737 --> 00:19:57,405 It's like they're so exaggerated 362 00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,908 and he's throwing these kind of temper tantrums 363 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:01,868 over these very minor things. 364 00:20:01,993 --> 00:20:03,536 Oh, it's my brother. 365 00:20:03,661 --> 00:20:05,141 How's it going, bro? Nice to meet you. 366 00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:07,457 If you put one finger on her, 367 00:20:07,582 --> 00:20:09,250 I'm gonna come to your house. 368 00:20:09,376 --> 00:20:12,045 I know your whole family. I know your neighbors. 369 00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:14,214 I know your neighbor's neighbors. 370 00:20:14,339 --> 00:20:16,216 And, you know, it's funny, it's humorous. 371 00:20:16,341 --> 00:20:17,943 I'm sure people look at that and kinda go, 372 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:19,886 how ridiculous at the time. 373 00:20:20,011 --> 00:20:22,972 Of course, now looking back it has a different meaning 374 00:20:23,098 --> 00:20:25,141 because we know the outcome of this story. 375 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:27,477 Do you see that woman over there? 376 00:20:30,355 --> 00:20:31,564 Oh, yeah. 377 00:20:32,482 --> 00:20:33,775 Beautiful, isn't she? 378 00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:38,071 It was kind of fast. 379 00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:40,073 I remember coming across a video 380 00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:42,784 that had probably 2.4 million views 381 00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:45,412 and I was like, "Oh my God, this is Ana." 382 00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:50,250 So Ali is on this crazy ascent 383 00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:52,794 on social media and his life is changing. 384 00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:56,047 And that was the time 385 00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:59,426 where Ana slowly started 386 00:20:59,551 --> 00:21:01,636 to disappear from people's lives. 387 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:15,650 My name is Rain and I'm an online friend to Ali. 388 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:18,153 The first time that I saw Ali 389 00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:19,612 was back in 2019. 390 00:21:19,738 --> 00:21:21,364 There was something about his eyes. 391 00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:23,700 I could tell that he had some type of story to tell. 392 00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:25,160 It was like a connection. 393 00:21:26,244 --> 00:21:30,081 We have a group chat together and we talk nearly every day. 394 00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:37,714 We would talk about his streams and his videos 395 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,717 and I helped him get verified on Instagram. 396 00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:45,430 Getting verified on Instagram means simply, 397 00:21:45,555 --> 00:21:47,098 you are who you say you are. 398 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:49,476 Tends to be a sign of notoriety 399 00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:52,812 because it implies that someone would be impersonating you. 400 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:55,690 Oh, congratulations. 401 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,501 When Ali got verified on Instagram, 402 00:21:57,525 --> 00:21:59,944 that was literally one of the best days for him ever. 403 00:22:02,739 --> 00:22:04,240 For social media influencers, 404 00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,451 there are these objective measures 405 00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:09,037 of how popular you are. 406 00:22:09,162 --> 00:22:11,414 You know, you get recognition, you get certain markers, 407 00:22:11,539 --> 00:22:12,874 you get blue checks, 408 00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:14,751 and that can be very, very seductive. 409 00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:16,336 Who they think I are? 410 00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:21,007 Once you're on this platform 411 00:22:21,132 --> 00:22:24,052 and you're seeing your followers grow 412 00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:25,887 and you're seeing there's more comments, 413 00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:29,140 that's all triggering a positive, like, "ding." 414 00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,685 Oh, another follower, another follower, another follower. 415 00:22:31,810 --> 00:22:35,730 It sparks this obsession at times 416 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,565 where you don't wanna lose that 417 00:22:37,691 --> 00:22:39,943 so you have to keep going or you'll lose followers. 418 00:22:43,988 --> 00:22:45,615 He went from 700,000 followers 419 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:48,785 to around 2 million followers, which is pretty amazing. 420 00:22:50,161 --> 00:22:52,330 That's a huge increase in people 421 00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:53,665 looking at his content. 422 00:22:53,790 --> 00:22:55,834 That can include companies 423 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:58,211 who might hire him for brand partnerships. 424 00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:03,174 Hey Jinn, where'd you get this? 425 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,719 - I wanna get me one. - Yeah, but that's my new 426 00:23:05,844 --> 00:23:07,846 Manscaped Lawn Mower 4.0, all right? 427 00:23:07,971 --> 00:23:09,514 What are you talking? Lawn Mower. 428 00:23:09,639 --> 00:23:12,892 Brands want more exposure on these social platforms. 429 00:23:13,018 --> 00:23:16,104 When a creator is getting a lot of attention, 430 00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:18,440 a company might see that as an opportunity 431 00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:21,651 to get their product in front of more users 432 00:23:21,776 --> 00:23:23,028 on that platform. 433 00:23:25,572 --> 00:23:27,949 You actually can make money from social media. 434 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,244 Lots of influencers, they are millionaires. 435 00:23:31,369 --> 00:23:33,705 That's why a lot of people are going towards 436 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:35,832 content creation in this generation. 437 00:23:40,545 --> 00:23:44,674 But when you get that little taste of fame, 438 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,510 it alters your... 439 00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:49,471 viewpoint of reality. 440 00:23:50,221 --> 00:23:51,681 Me, I want what's coming to me. 441 00:23:51,806 --> 00:23:53,558 What's coming to you, Tony? 442 00:23:55,977 --> 00:23:57,395 The world, Chico. 443 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,105 And everything in it. 444 00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,829 Through Ali, Ana got a lot of her followers as well. 445 00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,041 She liked to post. 446 00:24:20,919 --> 00:24:23,505 Oh, my God, I wish I looked like that. 447 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:26,174 That's a picture of yourself from like two days ago. 448 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:27,842 Yeah, back when I was pretty. 449 00:24:28,677 --> 00:24:30,929 But it wasn't something she was doing 450 00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:33,973 for followers or for the money. 451 00:24:34,099 --> 00:24:36,601 That mattered more to Ali than Ana. 452 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:43,566 Ana growing up was very insecure about herself. 453 00:24:43,692 --> 00:24:45,777 She was a nerdy girl, 454 00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:48,321 skinny who played video games. 455 00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:52,158 She definitely did change. 456 00:24:52,283 --> 00:24:55,161 She went from, like, Philippines to America. 457 00:24:57,914 --> 00:24:59,374 Started dressing differently. 458 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:01,876 She started going to the gym and working out. 459 00:25:07,298 --> 00:25:09,634 She just loved looking nice 460 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,219 and her family looking the same. 461 00:25:11,886 --> 00:25:13,722 She was an amazing mother. 462 00:25:13,847 --> 00:25:16,391 She adored her daughter more than anything in the world. 463 00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:20,061 She loved dressing her up in cute little outfits 464 00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:22,731 that kinda matched hers and they would go around 465 00:25:22,856 --> 00:25:24,733 and take pictures everywhere. 466 00:25:24,858 --> 00:25:28,737 ♪ Now don't come around like it ain't shit ♪ 467 00:25:28,862 --> 00:25:32,157 ♪ I gave you my time but you played with it ♪ 468 00:25:32,282 --> 00:25:34,951 They would make little cute TikTok's together. 469 00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:38,204 ♪ Roll up with a baddie in a Rolls Royce ♪ 470 00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:39,831 ♪ Headed to the top ♪ 471 00:25:39,956 --> 00:25:41,958 I was living in San Diego 472 00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:43,877 and Ana was in Virginia. 473 00:25:45,253 --> 00:25:47,047 It was COVID during the time 474 00:25:47,172 --> 00:25:49,007 and we were bored out of our minds. 475 00:25:49,132 --> 00:25:50,884 So we were either making TikTok's 476 00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:53,178 or we are playing video games online. 477 00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:57,432 Ana did say that she was feeling alone 478 00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:58,557 in Virginia. 479 00:25:59,726 --> 00:26:01,436 She was just raising Amira 480 00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:04,939 and her life revolved around Ali and his family. 481 00:26:05,065 --> 00:26:08,318 She told me she felt like she had nobody else there 482 00:26:08,443 --> 00:26:09,903 that was there for her. 483 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:14,657 I don't think he really allowed her to have friends. 484 00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:18,787 I remember spending time together over the phone. 485 00:26:18,912 --> 00:26:22,290 He started to get kind of jealous. 486 00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:27,087 They really did live in Ali's world. 487 00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:30,090 They're in the United States. Her family is overseas. 488 00:26:30,632 --> 00:26:32,258 He really is in control 489 00:26:32,384 --> 00:26:35,470 of who she hangs around, what they do. 490 00:26:37,389 --> 00:26:40,058 And what people didn't know was 491 00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:42,268 she was actually screaming for help. 492 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:48,817 I would call Ana from time to time 493 00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:51,695 and I kept saying, "You should really come visit me." 494 00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:55,156 And eventually she said, "I spoke with Ali, 495 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:58,034 he's going to let me come visit you in San Diego." 496 00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:06,626 Ana went to visit San Diego where a lot of her friends were 497 00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,670 and she just loved it. 498 00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:12,465 The lifestyle with the clubs and the high life. 499 00:27:14,843 --> 00:27:17,679 And at the end of her trip she told me, 500 00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:20,056 I'd really love to move here and be closer to you 501 00:27:20,181 --> 00:27:22,225 and to her other friends from Okinawa. 502 00:27:24,227 --> 00:27:25,854 So she goes back to Virginia 503 00:27:25,979 --> 00:27:29,607 and she is trying to convince Ali to move to San Diego. 504 00:27:30,358 --> 00:27:32,652 She said, "I've been in Virginia for you. 505 00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:34,571 We've been doing your TikTok's here, 506 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:35,947 raising our daughter. 507 00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:37,866 I wanna do San Diego for me." 508 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,869 For Ali, it was a win-win. 509 00:27:40,994 --> 00:27:43,455 Moving to San Diego would help his career 510 00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:46,124 working with influencers based in LA 511 00:27:46,249 --> 00:27:47,751 and also would make his wife happy. 512 00:27:48,251 --> 00:27:49,878 It was 100% exciting. 513 00:27:50,003 --> 00:27:51,605 'Cause, you know, his dream of becoming an actor 514 00:27:51,629 --> 00:27:54,466 is even closer than he was ever before. 515 00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,594 ♪ Something about today ♪ 516 00:27:59,054 --> 00:28:00,472 ♪ That changed me ♪ 517 00:28:00,597 --> 00:28:03,558 Ultimately, they moved in downtown San Diego 518 00:28:03,683 --> 00:28:05,226 at the Spire. 519 00:28:05,352 --> 00:28:06,853 They're up on the 35th floor. 520 00:28:06,978 --> 00:28:09,564 ♪ Something about the way today... ♪ 521 00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:13,443 It overlooks downtown, the beach and the sunset. 522 00:28:14,444 --> 00:28:16,863 San Diego has a good nightlife, the Gaslamp. 523 00:28:16,988 --> 00:28:19,074 It's a fun place, especially if you're young. 524 00:28:20,325 --> 00:28:22,202 It all seems so perfect. 525 00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:26,623 ♪ Something about today that changed me ♪ 526 00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:34,756 So the thing about social media is of course 527 00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:36,966 you're trying to display the elements of your life 528 00:28:37,092 --> 00:28:38,802 that you want people to see. 529 00:28:38,927 --> 00:28:40,178 Here's my best dance movie. 530 00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:42,472 Here's my wonderful vacation. 531 00:28:42,597 --> 00:28:44,599 Here's a beautiful picture of me and my partner. 532 00:28:46,017 --> 00:28:47,310 Because we're all putting 533 00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:48,704 our best foot forward on social media. 534 00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:50,188 Anything that you're looking at 535 00:28:50,313 --> 00:28:52,065 as a consumer of social media 536 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,942 is simply not telling the whole truth. 537 00:28:56,444 --> 00:28:58,863 Many social media influencers feel a need 538 00:28:58,988 --> 00:29:02,659 to let their followers 539 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:04,285 into their personal life, 540 00:29:04,411 --> 00:29:07,539 and I think that's a catch-22 in some respects. 541 00:29:07,664 --> 00:29:10,333 It creates, I think, this image 542 00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:12,627 that they now feel the need to uphold. 543 00:29:15,046 --> 00:29:18,758 There's this TikTok of Ali and Ana dancing 544 00:29:18,883 --> 00:29:20,760 and there's, like, a cutesy moment 545 00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:22,321 where she pulls back the shower curtain 546 00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:23,596 and he is in the shower. 547 00:29:24,556 --> 00:29:27,350 And they're just having so much fun as a couple. 548 00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:29,436 And the hashtag was 549 00:29:29,561 --> 00:29:31,146 "when your relationship is drama free." 550 00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,736 I don't know if they just posted that video 551 00:29:37,861 --> 00:29:40,030 as a TikTok just for the views. 552 00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:42,866 In the back of my mind I know they had their problems too, 553 00:29:42,991 --> 00:29:44,284 but every relationship does. 554 00:29:44,409 --> 00:29:46,578 They're perfect. That's what you see. 555 00:29:46,703 --> 00:29:49,122 I think those are the moments that she really held onto. 556 00:29:49,247 --> 00:29:50,447 So she would post that content 557 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:52,250 and show this side of them 558 00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:53,793 that she wanted the world to see. 559 00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:55,420 She wanted it to be good, 560 00:29:55,545 --> 00:29:58,673 but not everything online is real. 561 00:30:08,767 --> 00:30:10,643 Right after they moved to San Diego, 562 00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:13,521 Ali goes to LA and does this comedy show. 563 00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:15,565 Hello, everybody. It's my first time on stage. 564 00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:17,084 You can see that he is really trying 565 00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:19,319 to make things happen for his career. 566 00:30:19,444 --> 00:30:21,547 He's chasing these dreams that he's always wanted to achieve. 567 00:30:21,571 --> 00:30:23,615 You wanna play rough? Okay. 568 00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:25,784 Say hello to my little friend. 569 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:28,620 Hey! 570 00:30:30,038 --> 00:30:33,375 Ali felt that this was his moment to shine and get fame. 571 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,126 He wanted to be a movie star. 572 00:30:43,176 --> 00:30:44,511 Look at that. 573 00:30:44,636 --> 00:30:46,596 Ali is becoming very successful. 574 00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:48,431 It got to the point that we all started 575 00:30:48,556 --> 00:30:50,308 counting his views for him. 576 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,102 He just told us how happy he was 577 00:30:52,227 --> 00:30:53,267 and we were happy for him. 578 00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:55,355 JinnKid becomes almost 579 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,566 like a part of him in the sense that he really saw that 580 00:30:58,692 --> 00:31:01,653 this brand that he had could reach great success. 581 00:31:01,778 --> 00:31:03,488 Yo, y'all gotta see his 6ix9ine. 582 00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:05,424 This motherfucker's 6ix9ine is spot the fuck on. 583 00:31:05,448 --> 00:31:07,575 Yo, go ahead bro. I'm-a set you up. 584 00:31:07,701 --> 00:31:10,620 Y'all dirty motherfuckers can't fucking touch me. 585 00:31:10,745 --> 00:31:12,455 You feel me? All of y'all. 586 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:14,040 Yo. 587 00:31:14,165 --> 00:31:16,042 Yo, what other impressions do you do, bro? 588 00:31:16,167 --> 00:31:18,086 Oh, I do Scarface. 589 00:31:18,211 --> 00:31:20,255 "I told you, man. No fucking kids!" 590 00:31:20,964 --> 00:31:22,424 What you think I am, huh? 591 00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:24,592 What you think I'm a worm like you? 592 00:31:24,718 --> 00:31:27,804 I told you, man. I told you. No fucking kidding! 593 00:31:27,929 --> 00:31:31,349 That's just spot the fuck on. Spot the fuck on, man. 594 00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:33,643 It seemed like he was really fulfilled 595 00:31:33,768 --> 00:31:35,687 by the chance for fame. 596 00:31:35,812 --> 00:31:37,772 Well, you know, I'm following you. 597 00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:39,667 Yo, what's your tag? I want everybody to follow you. 598 00:31:39,691 --> 00:31:40,984 JinnKid. 599 00:31:41,109 --> 00:31:42,527 And the way social media 600 00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:44,404 sort of levels the playing field, 601 00:31:44,529 --> 00:31:46,614 anyone can have a little bit of fame. 602 00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:51,411 He embodies the identity of "I am TikTok famous." 603 00:31:51,536 --> 00:31:54,164 That's who I am. And, like, that's my life now. 604 00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:55,665 I'm a TikTok celebrity. 605 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:57,500 - Bro, give me the 6ix9ine. - 6ix9ine? 606 00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:59,169 Yo, word to my mother, 607 00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:01,188 I'll smack the teeth out of all y'all, you feel me? 608 00:32:01,212 --> 00:32:03,715 Y'all the internet gangsters? 609 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,010 Being famous is a fantasy that a lot of people have. 610 00:32:08,053 --> 00:32:10,722 You need that recognition. You need that fame. 611 00:32:10,847 --> 00:32:12,223 And I think for certain people, 612 00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:13,725 and I would include Ali in this, 613 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:15,727 it becomes almost like an addiction. 614 00:32:15,852 --> 00:32:17,562 I follow this dude, man. It's crazy. 615 00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:21,566 Ali is somebody who took this fame 616 00:32:21,691 --> 00:32:24,736 and really let it go to his head. 617 00:32:24,861 --> 00:32:27,405 Who put this thing together? Me. 618 00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:30,575 Who do I trust? Me. That's who! 619 00:32:36,498 --> 00:32:38,917 When they first moved to San Diego, 620 00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:40,877 it was good for a couple months... 621 00:32:43,004 --> 00:32:46,675 and then things were starting to go really downhill. 622 00:32:47,884 --> 00:32:50,762 They would hang out with only who he wanted to hang out with. 623 00:32:50,887 --> 00:32:53,139 If he didn't want Ana to come out with a girl's night, 624 00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:54,432 she wasn't going. 625 00:32:54,557 --> 00:32:55,975 He kinda just controlled 626 00:32:56,101 --> 00:32:57,769 how she spent her time in San Diego. 627 00:32:57,894 --> 00:33:00,772 I started to think that they actually have problems 628 00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:02,774 or there's something going on. 629 00:33:06,236 --> 00:33:08,363 You're now tuning live. 630 00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:11,533 Ali does tend to rub some people the wrong way. 631 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,160 He loves to talk about himself a lot. 632 00:33:14,285 --> 00:33:16,204 I don't even wanna be like fucking, 633 00:33:16,329 --> 00:33:18,707 what do you call it, Leonardo DiCaprio. 634 00:33:18,832 --> 00:33:20,392 I'm not trying to be the next Al Pacino. 635 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:21,626 I probably could. 636 00:33:21,751 --> 00:33:23,336 Ali felt that he was better 637 00:33:23,461 --> 00:33:25,046 than other people, 638 00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:27,882 and I think social media has a lot to do with that. 639 00:33:30,927 --> 00:33:33,847 Ali, as he becomes successful, 640 00:33:33,972 --> 00:33:37,017 he began to almost talk about himself 641 00:33:37,142 --> 00:33:39,269 like he was this larger than life person. 642 00:33:39,394 --> 00:33:42,480 Like he was this person who was so important, so famous. 643 00:33:42,605 --> 00:33:45,275 College is bullshit. I'm a college dropout, bitch. 644 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,902 And I make more money than fucking half the people I see. 645 00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:50,780 Ali would walk into a room sometimes 646 00:33:50,905 --> 00:33:52,532 and be like, "Don't you know who I am? 647 00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:54,325 I'm JinnKid. I could do whatever I want." 648 00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:58,997 So that persona didn't leave once he stopped filming. 649 00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:03,126 Ali becomes increasingly invested in his brand 650 00:34:03,251 --> 00:34:06,588 and it seems like almost the boundaries between his brand 651 00:34:06,713 --> 00:34:09,883 and his image and who he is as a person 652 00:34:10,008 --> 00:34:11,926 becomes very confusing and blurred for him. 653 00:34:12,052 --> 00:34:16,014 I'm a fucking God! I'm a sexy motherfucker! 654 00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:18,141 I'm a fucking internet celebrity! 655 00:34:19,059 --> 00:34:22,771 If you're not able to separate that online persona 656 00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:25,106 to who you truly are in the real world, 657 00:34:25,231 --> 00:34:27,275 it could take a huge toll on you mentally 658 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,487 and affect real relationships in your real life. 659 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,620 Ali and Ana, 660 00:34:38,745 --> 00:34:40,288 they're partying a lot, both of them, 661 00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:42,457 and that's when things start to kind of hit the fan. 662 00:34:46,336 --> 00:34:50,131 I had found out that he was abusing cocaine. 663 00:34:50,882 --> 00:34:53,927 When I say this man was on a coke binge, 664 00:34:54,052 --> 00:34:57,806 I'm saying abnormal amounts of cocaine. 665 00:34:58,807 --> 00:35:00,785 Ali really became crazy with this whole thing. 666 00:35:00,809 --> 00:35:02,143 He'd have a bag of it, 667 00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:05,188 like a big bag of cocaine in his pocket, 668 00:35:05,313 --> 00:35:07,667 and he would just pull it out in the middle of a restaurant, 669 00:35:07,691 --> 00:35:08,971 in the middle of a movie theater, 670 00:35:09,067 --> 00:35:10,347 pretty much anywhere we would go. 671 00:35:11,403 --> 00:35:13,446 He would even do it on his live streams 672 00:35:13,571 --> 00:35:15,073 right in front of his audience. 673 00:35:21,246 --> 00:35:23,206 I can hear my friend in the background going, 674 00:35:23,331 --> 00:35:26,001 "Babe," like, "what are you doing?" 675 00:35:26,626 --> 00:35:28,795 At first, Ana was okay with it 676 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,588 because when they've moved to San Diego, 677 00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:32,799 Ana's goal was 678 00:35:32,924 --> 00:35:35,343 to make everything comfortable for him. 679 00:35:35,468 --> 00:35:38,263 She was just allowing him to do what he wanted. 680 00:35:38,388 --> 00:35:39,468 And he is like, "Oh, this?" 681 00:35:42,392 --> 00:35:43,685 What, this? This nothing. 682 00:35:44,561 --> 00:35:47,188 This... asthma medicine. How'd you like that? 683 00:35:47,313 --> 00:35:48,815 That's not fake. 684 00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:50,859 That's him snorting cocaine on live feed. 685 00:35:50,984 --> 00:35:52,861 And you could see how many viewers 686 00:35:52,986 --> 00:35:55,989 are watching that with laugh reactions. 687 00:35:57,032 --> 00:36:00,493 As the marriage begins to deteriorate, 688 00:36:00,618 --> 00:36:02,203 we really do begin seeing 689 00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:05,999 that this control that he has tried to exhibit, 690 00:36:06,124 --> 00:36:08,460 not just with Ana, but with himself, 691 00:36:08,585 --> 00:36:12,213 is really starting to loosen and he's starting to unravel. 692 00:36:13,381 --> 00:36:16,051 I have never heard of Ana using cocaine 693 00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:18,053 or doing it with her friends. 694 00:36:18,178 --> 00:36:21,264 But I had always heard him doing it 695 00:36:21,389 --> 00:36:22,682 and I think he was jealous 696 00:36:22,807 --> 00:36:25,560 that she had this life with friends. 697 00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:26,811 I can't go out. 698 00:36:26,936 --> 00:36:29,314 I'm sick. 699 00:36:33,818 --> 00:36:35,236 Ali started to see that 700 00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:39,115 Ana was becoming happy and blooming 701 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,910 and he was not about to have that 702 00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:45,663 because for years he had his wife on the sidelines 703 00:36:45,789 --> 00:36:47,207 and that's how he wanted her. 704 00:36:47,332 --> 00:36:49,793 And this is kinda when the script flips. 705 00:36:55,674 --> 00:36:57,759 Ann is the one in her element. 706 00:36:57,884 --> 00:36:59,219 She has all her people there, 707 00:36:59,344 --> 00:37:02,639 but Ali isn't liked as much as Ana 708 00:37:02,764 --> 00:37:04,182 by these friends. 709 00:37:06,184 --> 00:37:10,605 Behind the scenes you see Ali's not included 710 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:12,941 or he's not a part of the photo 711 00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:15,360 that's getting all the likes and the attention. 712 00:37:16,778 --> 00:37:21,032 Ali was kind of programmed to think a certain way. 713 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:25,245 I believe that when you come from a strict kind of culture, 714 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:27,539 there's certain expectations of you 715 00:37:27,664 --> 00:37:29,040 that come from your family. 716 00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:32,836 Ali has a very rigid idea 717 00:37:32,961 --> 00:37:34,355 of how their relationship should be. 718 00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:36,006 I don't think in any respect he thinks 719 00:37:36,131 --> 00:37:37,757 is an equal relationship. 720 00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,426 It's about him. 721 00:37:39,551 --> 00:37:43,346 All I have in this world is my balls and my word. 722 00:37:43,471 --> 00:37:45,056 And I don't break 'em for no one. 723 00:37:45,181 --> 00:37:46,182 You got that? 724 00:37:49,978 --> 00:37:53,273 One day, Ana and I went to the gym. 725 00:37:53,398 --> 00:37:56,943 After that, we went back to Ana's apartment to grab Amira 726 00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:58,778 because we're gonna go do something else. 727 00:38:00,363 --> 00:38:03,742 Ali was very, very angry with Ana 728 00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:06,828 and pulled Ana to the bedroom 729 00:38:06,953 --> 00:38:10,165 and the next thing I know, he's throwing things at her. 730 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:13,960 Ana runs out of the room, we grab Amira 731 00:38:14,085 --> 00:38:16,171 and we just storm off out of the apartment. 732 00:38:16,838 --> 00:38:18,798 Ali was non-stop texting her like, 733 00:38:18,923 --> 00:38:20,675 "Come back, bring my daughter back. 734 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,927 I'm gonna take all the money out of the account." 735 00:38:23,845 --> 00:38:25,305 I asked her, you know, 736 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:27,432 "Does he treat you like this all the time? 737 00:38:27,557 --> 00:38:29,184 Has this happened before?" 738 00:38:29,309 --> 00:38:31,287 And she's like, "No, no, babe, don't worry about it. 739 00:38:31,311 --> 00:38:33,021 Don't worry about it. I'm fine. It's okay. 740 00:38:33,146 --> 00:38:35,357 We're just gonna talk later. He's just mad." 741 00:38:37,275 --> 00:38:40,195 That was our first glimpse of how crazy Ali could get. 742 00:38:46,201 --> 00:38:49,412 He didn't want her having a life outside of him. 743 00:38:49,537 --> 00:38:52,791 He wanted her to hold the camera for him 744 00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:54,668 so he can make his skits. 745 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:57,420 He wants Ana to basically 746 00:38:57,545 --> 00:38:59,964 have Ali be the center of her world. 747 00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,635 And when that's not the case, he loses it. 748 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,012 Ana, I'm really starting to get hurt, man. 749 00:39:06,137 --> 00:39:08,390 I... You didn't even tell me 750 00:39:08,807 --> 00:39:10,225 that you're canceling on me, 751 00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:11,670 and now you can't answer my phone. 752 00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:12,977 You said something came up. 753 00:39:13,103 --> 00:39:14,729 And now my mind is just telling me 754 00:39:14,854 --> 00:39:16,934 I'm not important enough for you to answer the phone. 755 00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:19,859 Ali actually starts recording with his phone 756 00:39:19,984 --> 00:39:22,987 some of the things that we would never expect him to record. 757 00:39:38,044 --> 00:39:41,006 He had lost trust in her and he felt from that moment on 758 00:39:41,131 --> 00:39:42,590 that his wife was cheating on him 759 00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:45,176 and he became extremely paranoid about that. 760 00:39:54,227 --> 00:39:56,730 Ali degrades her and degrades her. 761 00:39:56,855 --> 00:39:58,898 Watching these videos, 762 00:39:59,024 --> 00:40:01,109 I wonder why someone would record that. 763 00:40:08,575 --> 00:40:11,661 He would berate her for not having sex with him. 764 00:40:11,786 --> 00:40:13,413 Almost demand it from her. 765 00:40:19,919 --> 00:40:21,880 He was territorial 766 00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:25,425 seeing her as more of a property. 767 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:27,886 And I need to keep this at all costs 768 00:40:28,011 --> 00:40:29,804 and it's solely mine. 769 00:41:01,086 --> 00:41:03,380 I think it made Ali extremely jealous, 770 00:41:03,505 --> 00:41:05,757 the attention that Ana would get because 771 00:41:05,882 --> 00:41:07,425 everyone was always drawn to her. 772 00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:09,010 Everyone always loved her. 773 00:41:10,553 --> 00:41:14,307 It created these explosive fights between the two of them. 774 00:41:31,866 --> 00:41:34,786 I brought her to America. I gave her the American dream. 775 00:41:34,911 --> 00:41:36,913 Therefore, she is my property. 776 00:41:37,038 --> 00:41:38,164 That is how he felt. 777 00:41:40,959 --> 00:41:44,295 Growing up in a Filipino culture, 778 00:41:44,421 --> 00:41:48,425 women are raised to be quiet 779 00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:50,510 and do what we're told. 780 00:41:51,302 --> 00:41:53,430 We all have one dream and one goal, 781 00:41:53,555 --> 00:41:55,390 and it's to get out 782 00:41:55,515 --> 00:41:58,643 and to come to America to have a better life. 783 00:41:59,894 --> 00:42:02,897 Certain men will think that we are an item. 784 00:42:03,023 --> 00:42:06,359 We should be grateful because they gave us that life. 785 00:42:07,318 --> 00:42:09,237 When you get married, you don't get divorced. 786 00:42:09,362 --> 00:42:12,866 Literally in our country, it's illegal to get divorced, 787 00:42:12,991 --> 00:42:15,744 so she needed to stick this one out. 788 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:25,337 Ali felt that Ana was taking everything away from him, 789 00:42:25,462 --> 00:42:28,757 so he threatened to get her deported. 790 00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:36,765 If Ana was deported out of America, 791 00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:38,850 she wouldn't be able to see her daughter. 792 00:42:39,601 --> 00:42:42,145 Ana just wanted to keep the peace, 793 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:43,688 especially for her daughter. 794 00:42:43,813 --> 00:42:45,607 She just loved her so much 795 00:42:45,732 --> 00:42:47,609 and she would literally do anything for her, 796 00:42:47,734 --> 00:42:49,986 like, endure everything that Ali was putting her through, 797 00:42:50,111 --> 00:42:53,365 just for her daughter to be happy and to have a dad. 798 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:02,916 When you listen to these recordings, 799 00:43:03,041 --> 00:43:05,919 it's hard to imagine that anybody would want keep a record 800 00:43:06,044 --> 00:43:09,798 because they're so filled with venom. 801 00:43:15,178 --> 00:43:18,431 Is he trying to build some sort of case against her? 802 00:43:18,556 --> 00:43:20,558 He's trying to frame up a narrative 803 00:43:20,684 --> 00:43:24,020 of himself as the victim, 804 00:43:24,145 --> 00:43:27,315 or the kind of suffering protagonist in their marriage. 805 00:43:27,982 --> 00:43:29,651 But it doesn't read like that at all. 806 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:40,412 Ana actually calls Ali's mom for help. 807 00:43:43,623 --> 00:43:46,960 I think that illustrates the bind sometimes 808 00:43:47,085 --> 00:43:49,337 that domestic violence victims feel. 809 00:43:49,796 --> 00:43:51,756 They want the abuse to stop. 810 00:43:51,881 --> 00:43:54,175 They want to be safe, and yet, 811 00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,387 they also don't want to get this person in trouble. 812 00:43:57,512 --> 00:43:59,180 They're thinking about them being in jail. 813 00:43:59,305 --> 00:44:00,950 They're thinking about what this is going to mean 814 00:44:00,974 --> 00:44:02,576 for their daughter, they're thinking about, 815 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,020 what is this going to do to Ali's career? 816 00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:31,504 Ana is trying to protect her daughter, 817 00:44:31,629 --> 00:44:34,507 because she did witness those arguments. 818 00:44:34,632 --> 00:44:36,468 She did see her dad angry at times. 819 00:44:36,593 --> 00:44:40,722 She would hear the screaming, the fighting, the violence. 820 00:45:01,868 --> 00:45:03,578 At this point, what we're seeing 821 00:45:03,703 --> 00:45:05,997 is this increase in conflict between them, 822 00:45:06,122 --> 00:45:08,124 which pretty quickly escalates. 823 00:45:08,249 --> 00:45:09,876 By July of 2021, 824 00:45:10,001 --> 00:45:11,961 it's becoming very, very serious. 825 00:45:12,087 --> 00:45:13,838 Ali will do just about anything 826 00:45:13,963 --> 00:45:15,840 to maintain the control of that relationship. 827 00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,009 Whether it's threatening Ana, 828 00:45:18,134 --> 00:45:19,678 whether it's threatening suicide. 829 00:45:41,032 --> 00:45:43,868 I'm just disgusted when I heard 830 00:45:43,993 --> 00:45:47,288 that he had his gun out around his daughter. 831 00:45:47,414 --> 00:45:48,415 It's shocking. 832 00:45:49,708 --> 00:45:52,919 I think what she was hoping for was a change... 833 00:45:53,628 --> 00:45:55,588 but I think Ana knew 834 00:45:55,714 --> 00:45:58,717 that it wasn't safe for her at home. 835 00:46:48,099 --> 00:46:51,061 When the police arrive at the apartment, 836 00:46:51,186 --> 00:46:53,980 instead of answering the door right away for the police, 837 00:46:54,105 --> 00:46:56,816 Ali goes in and he brushes his teeth, 838 00:46:56,941 --> 00:46:58,943 because he's been drinking alcohol. 839 00:47:04,157 --> 00:47:06,534 And after he gets finished brushing his teeth, 840 00:47:06,659 --> 00:47:08,703 he comes back out and he answers the door. 841 00:47:15,627 --> 00:47:17,387 For the San Diego Police Department, 842 00:47:17,462 --> 00:47:20,757 85% of the police reports that are written 843 00:47:20,882 --> 00:47:22,967 are for domestic violence. 844 00:47:23,093 --> 00:47:25,637 Cops come inside and they separate the two of them 845 00:47:25,762 --> 00:47:27,138 to find out what's going on. 846 00:47:27,263 --> 00:47:29,516 One cop will go in with one half, 847 00:47:29,641 --> 00:47:31,476 another cop will go in with the other half 848 00:47:31,601 --> 00:47:33,395 and they'll determine, "Do we have a crime?" 849 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,815 Now Ali is recording this conversation, 850 00:47:36,940 --> 00:47:38,441 which is highly unusual. 851 00:47:38,566 --> 00:47:39,859 Most people don't record 852 00:47:39,984 --> 00:47:41,695 their conversations with the cops. 853 00:47:48,076 --> 00:47:50,870 They will conduct some kind of a risk assessment. 854 00:47:50,995 --> 00:47:52,831 It may be arresting one of those people. 855 00:47:52,956 --> 00:47:55,166 You know, it just depends upon the circumstances. 856 00:48:12,183 --> 00:48:15,895 Ali is really good at telling a story 857 00:48:16,021 --> 00:48:17,731 that's believable to the cops. 858 00:48:17,856 --> 00:48:20,191 He's good at presenting himself 859 00:48:20,316 --> 00:48:24,279 as not being the type of guy who would be violent. 860 00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:41,212 There's no injuries or anything like that, 861 00:48:41,338 --> 00:48:45,050 because had there been any visible injury on Ana 862 00:48:45,175 --> 00:48:46,575 when the police officers were there, 863 00:48:46,676 --> 00:48:49,012 it would've been game over for Ali. 864 00:49:09,532 --> 00:49:12,077 And I think it is very difficult for one parent, 865 00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:14,287 no matter how bad the situation is, 866 00:49:14,412 --> 00:49:18,375 to think about removing that kind of dual parenting. 867 00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:21,020 Even though, of course, we know it isn't healthy for that child. 868 00:49:21,044 --> 00:49:23,755 But it can be very difficult to make the decision to leave. 869 00:49:29,177 --> 00:49:30,553 Let's get this clear. 870 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,015 Ali was holding Ana hostage. 871 00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:35,975 She could not get out of this marriage. 872 00:49:36,101 --> 00:49:38,853 So what is somebody supposed to do? 873 00:49:44,359 --> 00:49:47,320 On August 17th, Julia and I planned 874 00:49:47,445 --> 00:49:51,157 a Disney trip for Ana's birthday. 875 00:49:51,282 --> 00:49:52,575 Mila! 876 00:49:52,701 --> 00:49:55,161 I wanted all of our kids to be together 877 00:49:55,286 --> 00:49:58,081 and I needed to go there to check on her. 878 00:49:58,665 --> 00:50:00,333 I followed my heart and... 879 00:50:01,126 --> 00:50:02,377 I'm glad I did. 880 00:50:04,379 --> 00:50:06,840 The whole time Ali was complaining. 881 00:50:06,965 --> 00:50:09,467 Mostly, he didn't want to walk around. 882 00:50:09,592 --> 00:50:11,386 He was tired. 883 00:50:11,511 --> 00:50:15,432 And, of course, he was bringing his drugs 884 00:50:15,557 --> 00:50:18,101 and I was not having it. 885 00:50:18,226 --> 00:50:19,853 And neither was Ana. 886 00:50:19,978 --> 00:50:22,230 We all were practically ignoring him. 887 00:50:23,398 --> 00:50:26,151 And he eventually gave in at 11:00 a.m. 888 00:50:26,276 --> 00:50:28,194 and went to the Jeep and slept. 889 00:50:29,946 --> 00:50:32,532 And we all had an amazing time 890 00:50:32,657 --> 00:50:35,493 and we stayed there 'til the fireworks. 891 00:50:35,618 --> 00:50:39,789 It was kind of our dream to take our kids to Disney. 892 00:50:39,914 --> 00:50:42,917 - Look, it's Mickey. - Mickey! 893 00:50:43,043 --> 00:50:45,503 Cheers! 894 00:50:45,628 --> 00:50:47,380 Happy birthday! 895 00:50:47,505 --> 00:50:50,508 We went out for Ana's birthday. 896 00:50:50,633 --> 00:50:53,386 Ali eventually got himself together 897 00:50:53,511 --> 00:50:56,264 and we all chipped in for a table... 898 00:50:57,057 --> 00:50:58,683 at a club in San Diego. 899 00:50:59,601 --> 00:51:02,103 She was really upset because Ali was fighting with her 900 00:51:02,228 --> 00:51:05,398 and making her feel worthless 901 00:51:05,523 --> 00:51:08,234 and like it wasn't her birthday. 902 00:51:08,818 --> 00:51:10,612 What I realized then was that 903 00:51:10,737 --> 00:51:12,655 if he wasn't the center of attention, 904 00:51:12,781 --> 00:51:13,799 he wasn't going to have it. 905 00:51:22,665 --> 00:51:24,793 Before she took me to the airport, 906 00:51:24,918 --> 00:51:28,046 we went to our favorite spot in San Diego, La Jolla. 907 00:51:28,171 --> 00:51:30,507 We took the girls to see the seals, 908 00:51:30,632 --> 00:51:32,759 let them run around and eat ice cream. 909 00:51:33,301 --> 00:51:35,053 Look at the seals. 910 00:51:35,178 --> 00:51:37,639 Wow, look at the seals, Mila. 911 00:51:37,764 --> 00:51:38,890 Mom! 912 00:51:39,641 --> 00:51:42,102 We had gotten into an argument, 913 00:51:42,227 --> 00:51:45,105 because I've been telling her, you know, 914 00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:46,481 "You need to leave him." 915 00:51:47,774 --> 00:51:49,401 She made it seem 916 00:51:49,526 --> 00:51:51,778 like there was nothing going on. 917 00:51:51,903 --> 00:51:54,739 That they were just going through some phase. 918 00:51:54,864 --> 00:51:57,033 But I knew that wasn't it. 919 00:51:58,284 --> 00:52:00,245 And I remember telling her at the airport, 920 00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:02,747 "Ana, you can't keep doing this." 921 00:52:03,581 --> 00:52:05,341 And she's like, "I know. I'm going to fix it. 922 00:52:05,375 --> 00:52:06,584 I'm going to fix it." 923 00:52:08,628 --> 00:52:12,090 And I said, "Okay." And she said, "Okay, love you." 924 00:52:12,215 --> 00:52:13,466 And I said, "I love you too." 925 00:52:14,592 --> 00:52:16,594 And that was the last time I ever heard from her. 926 00:52:26,187 --> 00:52:27,522 Can I take a break? 927 00:52:33,945 --> 00:52:36,197 Things start to get really ugly at home 928 00:52:36,322 --> 00:52:38,533 and Ali starts to air them out publicly. 929 00:52:38,658 --> 00:52:41,327 Don't get married, guys. Don't get fucking married. 930 00:52:41,745 --> 00:52:45,165 Ali would use his online platform 931 00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:47,459 against Ana at times. 932 00:52:47,584 --> 00:52:50,503 He would go on live and broadcast 933 00:52:50,628 --> 00:52:52,088 really bad fights. 934 00:52:52,213 --> 00:52:53,882 This fucking bitch. 935 00:52:54,007 --> 00:52:56,110 He was saying, "This is what a bitch looks like. 936 00:52:56,134 --> 00:52:57,677 This is what a whore looks like." 937 00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:01,639 And I saw Ana sitting on the couch, 938 00:53:01,765 --> 00:53:03,933 not showing her face. 939 00:53:04,059 --> 00:53:08,021 For him to do that was very dangerous in my point of view, 940 00:53:08,146 --> 00:53:10,398 and just overall wrong. 941 00:53:10,523 --> 00:53:14,110 It showed how little he cared about her wellbeing. 942 00:53:14,235 --> 00:53:15,695 I dedicated my life. 943 00:53:15,820 --> 00:53:17,540 I threw my whole life away for her. 944 00:53:17,989 --> 00:53:19,491 And now she's throwing away my life. 945 00:53:20,784 --> 00:53:23,286 Before they have, seemingly, this perfect life 946 00:53:23,411 --> 00:53:26,289 that they've shaped online. 947 00:53:26,414 --> 00:53:29,250 And now it's a completely different story. 948 00:53:29,376 --> 00:53:30,835 And he is blaming Ana for this. 949 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,421 I worked so hard to build my platform and... 950 00:53:35,131 --> 00:53:37,133 turns out the one closest to you 951 00:53:37,258 --> 00:53:38,760 is the one that tries to destroy it. 952 00:53:39,427 --> 00:53:41,471 That was definitely hard for me to witness. 953 00:53:41,596 --> 00:53:44,557 He was doing it to embarrass her. 954 00:53:44,683 --> 00:53:46,403 I don't even know why I'm telling you, guys. 955 00:53:46,518 --> 00:53:48,061 But I just care about you guys, man. 956 00:53:48,853 --> 00:53:50,813 I care about you guys. I care about my brand here. 957 00:53:50,855 --> 00:53:53,358 He wants his fans or his followers to get 958 00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:56,528 a look into his life or that he cares about them. 959 00:53:56,653 --> 00:54:00,281 But, you know, really, he was just embarrassing... 960 00:54:01,241 --> 00:54:02,617 both of them. 961 00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:10,250 It was very heartbreaking 962 00:54:10,375 --> 00:54:12,585 and very hard to watch and very shocking. 963 00:54:12,711 --> 00:54:15,213 The internet can be such an evil place. 964 00:54:16,423 --> 00:54:18,258 She didn't know what to do and I didn't know 965 00:54:18,383 --> 00:54:19,718 how I could help her. 966 00:54:21,469 --> 00:54:23,596 And that's when everything really, 967 00:54:23,722 --> 00:54:25,390 really, really started going downhill. 968 00:54:36,943 --> 00:54:40,280 Ali knew that a guy named Ray in their friend circle 969 00:54:40,405 --> 00:54:42,657 liked Ana, was interested in Ana. 970 00:54:49,372 --> 00:54:51,666 Ana and Ali met Ray together. 971 00:54:51,791 --> 00:54:54,336 I remember Ali coming back to me and saying, 972 00:54:54,461 --> 00:54:56,296 "Yeah, Ray just told me I'm so lucky 973 00:54:56,421 --> 00:54:58,590 that I have a beautiful woman like Ana. 974 00:54:58,715 --> 00:55:00,508 That really bothers me. Why does he say that? 975 00:55:00,633 --> 00:55:02,427 That just means he wants her." 976 00:55:03,845 --> 00:55:08,641 Ali has had jealousy issues with Ray from the start, 977 00:55:08,767 --> 00:55:13,355 because Ray came off like he admired Ana. 978 00:55:15,690 --> 00:55:19,611 And so Ali started creating this drama 979 00:55:19,736 --> 00:55:21,821 about how he doesn't trust Ray. 980 00:55:21,946 --> 00:55:23,114 You want to fuck with me? 981 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,241 Okay. God, okay. 982 00:55:25,367 --> 00:55:28,161 In actual real life, 983 00:55:28,286 --> 00:55:29,871 he would say certain things like, 984 00:55:29,996 --> 00:55:32,415 "Would it be fun if I just picked up this gun 985 00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:33,900 and, like, shot a bunch of people?" 986 00:55:33,958 --> 00:55:35,598 People were like, "Why would you say that? 987 00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:37,462 That's actually not funny. 988 00:55:37,587 --> 00:55:38,922 Are you your character right now? 989 00:55:39,047 --> 00:55:40,340 Or who are you right now?" 990 00:55:40,465 --> 00:55:43,593 He was so high-strung and so violent 991 00:55:43,718 --> 00:55:46,554 to where nobody thought it was funny outside of TikTok. 992 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,557 - You need people like me. - You need people like me. 993 00:55:49,683 --> 00:55:52,185 - So you can point... - your fucking fingers... 994 00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:53,412 and say, "That's the bad guy." 995 00:55:53,436 --> 00:55:54,646 "That's the bad guy." 996 00:55:54,771 --> 00:55:56,690 Say good night to the bad guy. 997 00:56:01,152 --> 00:56:03,530 One morning, Ana calls me a million times, 998 00:56:03,655 --> 00:56:05,490 texts me a million times. 999 00:56:09,077 --> 00:56:11,305 I'm reading all these texts, "Louie, you got to come get me." 1000 00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:12,831 You got to come get me. I need you. 1001 00:56:14,124 --> 00:56:15,208 "He's crazy." 1002 00:56:16,001 --> 00:56:17,627 She calls me and she says, 1003 00:56:17,752 --> 00:56:19,254 "Hey, can I come over?" 1004 00:56:20,922 --> 00:56:22,507 So she comes to my house 1005 00:56:22,632 --> 00:56:25,427 and she has a big suitcase with her. 1006 00:56:25,552 --> 00:56:28,388 It was Ali's cousin dropping them off. 1007 00:56:28,513 --> 00:56:32,183 We went to the park and I looked at her face 1008 00:56:32,308 --> 00:56:35,562 and I noticed the whole left side of her face was bruised. 1009 00:56:38,982 --> 00:56:41,026 That's finally when she's starting to tell us 1010 00:56:41,151 --> 00:56:44,446 that this has been an ongoing thing since Virginia. 1011 00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:50,702 Domestic violence does not happen overnight. 1012 00:56:50,827 --> 00:56:52,203 There's a reason 1013 00:56:52,328 --> 00:56:56,041 why abusers isolate their victims. 1014 00:56:56,791 --> 00:56:58,471 It's because they can control the narrative 1015 00:56:58,501 --> 00:57:00,962 of what's going on and what happens and all those things. 1016 00:57:01,087 --> 00:57:02,547 When you are now in a place 1017 00:57:02,672 --> 00:57:05,383 where your victim is exposed 1018 00:57:05,508 --> 00:57:07,427 to other people and has support, 1019 00:57:07,552 --> 00:57:10,096 you began losing sometimes the power 1020 00:57:10,221 --> 00:57:11,615 that you've had in that relationship 1021 00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:13,391 to influence that person. 1022 00:57:13,516 --> 00:57:14,893 Everything started coming out 1023 00:57:15,018 --> 00:57:16,811 and she's starting to realize, 1024 00:57:16,936 --> 00:57:19,439 you know, this is a very toxic, abusive relationship 1025 00:57:19,564 --> 00:57:20,899 and that she needs to get out. 1026 00:57:24,944 --> 00:57:27,530 Ana has this picture of her with kind of a bruised eye 1027 00:57:27,655 --> 00:57:29,616 and she's threatening Ali, 1028 00:57:29,741 --> 00:57:31,461 saying, you know, "Should I call the police? 1029 00:57:31,493 --> 00:57:33,370 Should I show your family? 1030 00:57:33,495 --> 00:57:35,288 Should I put it online?" 1031 00:57:36,289 --> 00:57:38,458 And that strikes a chord with Ali, 1032 00:57:38,583 --> 00:57:41,127 because his online persona is his baby. 1033 00:57:42,128 --> 00:57:44,673 It's so complicated for Ana in these situations 1034 00:57:44,798 --> 00:57:46,591 to think, "How do I get him to stop?" 1035 00:57:46,716 --> 00:57:48,593 How do I get him to leave me alone? 1036 00:57:48,718 --> 00:57:50,470 And yet I do feel protective of him 1037 00:57:50,595 --> 00:57:52,435 in terms of I don't want to get him in trouble. 1038 00:57:52,555 --> 00:57:53,875 "I don't want to ruin his career." 1039 00:57:53,932 --> 00:57:55,725 And we all look and kind of go, now, 1040 00:57:55,850 --> 00:57:57,727 "Yes, you should post this on Facebook. 1041 00:57:57,852 --> 00:57:59,354 Yes, you should call the police." 1042 00:57:59,479 --> 00:58:01,231 But at that point, I think, 1043 00:58:01,356 --> 00:58:02,691 there is that struggle. 1044 00:58:03,775 --> 00:58:05,694 When you're in that relationship, 1045 00:58:05,819 --> 00:58:08,405 it's hard to just leave, especially a marriage. 1046 00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:09,989 You can feel trapped. 1047 00:58:10,115 --> 00:58:12,575 "How am I going to do this on my own?" 1048 00:58:12,701 --> 00:58:14,577 You feel like no one understands. 1049 00:58:16,371 --> 00:58:20,125 And that's exactly what I think Ana was going through. 1050 00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:22,085 She was in... 1051 00:58:22,877 --> 00:58:24,713 a place where she was stuck... 1052 00:58:25,505 --> 00:58:26,745 and didn't know how to get out. 1053 00:58:33,096 --> 00:58:36,516 And then Ali started cheating on Ana. 1054 00:58:38,852 --> 00:58:41,730 One of the girls that he fooled around with 1055 00:58:41,855 --> 00:58:44,482 was a girl living at the Spire. 1056 00:58:44,607 --> 00:58:47,318 He met her in the elevator 1057 00:58:47,444 --> 00:58:51,114 and this girl somehow found Ana 1058 00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:52,699 and reached out to her. 1059 00:58:52,824 --> 00:58:55,910 She had to tell her that they slept together. 1060 00:58:56,036 --> 00:58:58,663 Ana was like, "I'm so thankful that you told me this. 1061 00:58:58,788 --> 00:59:00,206 You know, I'm not even mad. 1062 00:59:00,331 --> 00:59:02,751 I just want to know this information." 1063 00:59:04,002 --> 00:59:05,712 This girl told Ana 1064 00:59:05,837 --> 00:59:08,965 that he invited her into their home... 1065 00:59:09,841 --> 00:59:12,052 and he grabbed a big bag of cocaine 1066 00:59:12,177 --> 00:59:15,138 and laid it on their coffee table 1067 00:59:15,263 --> 00:59:16,389 and just started... 1068 00:59:17,390 --> 00:59:21,436 doing a bunch of blow and talking about Ana, 1069 00:59:21,561 --> 00:59:24,439 calling her all these horrible things. 1070 00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:28,735 And, of course, this girl is clearly freaking out, 1071 00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:31,446 'cause she's like, "Okay, this guy is crazy." 1072 00:59:31,571 --> 00:59:33,573 But she was smart 1073 00:59:33,698 --> 00:59:36,409 and knew that she needed to warn Ana. 1074 00:59:37,202 --> 00:59:38,995 Ana wanted to separate at that point. 1075 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,705 That was her final straw. 1076 01:00:14,614 --> 01:00:17,492 At that point, she just wanted people to know the truth. 1077 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,166 So then Ana posted a video on TikTok. 1078 01:00:26,209 --> 01:00:28,336 ♪ When she's sleeping in the bed we made ♪ 1079 01:00:28,461 --> 01:00:30,714 ♪ Don't you dare forget about the way ♪ 1080 01:00:30,839 --> 01:00:33,466 ♪ You betrayed me ♪ 1081 01:00:33,591 --> 01:00:34,759 ♪ 'Cause I know that ♪ 1082 01:00:34,884 --> 01:00:38,346 ♪ You'll never feel sorry ♪ 1083 01:00:38,471 --> 01:00:40,390 That was definitely hitting him where it hurt. 1084 01:00:40,515 --> 01:00:43,852 Like, he cared so much about his online presence, 1085 01:00:43,977 --> 01:00:46,563 his reputation, his followers. 1086 01:00:46,688 --> 01:00:48,606 She posts this, knowing full well 1087 01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:50,400 what this is going to do to Ali, 1088 01:00:50,525 --> 01:00:52,152 because he loves 1089 01:00:52,277 --> 01:00:55,030 his online persona and his following, 1090 01:00:55,155 --> 01:00:58,575 and he's kind of just spiraling downwards. 1091 01:01:00,660 --> 01:01:02,954 I didn't cheat on you. You fucking betrayed me. 1092 01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:04,914 And I fucked a girl in Miami too. 1093 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,624 And I fucked a girl in LA. 1094 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:08,376 I've been fucking bitches all day, 1095 01:01:08,501 --> 01:01:10,545 'cause you deprive me of sex, 1096 01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:13,173 you paint me a bad guy, you fucking disrespect me. 1097 01:01:13,298 --> 01:01:14,674 I'm fucking everybody. 1098 01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:16,885 I am fucking the best man you ever met 1099 01:01:17,010 --> 01:01:18,470 and you're the dumbest bitch 1100 01:01:18,595 --> 01:01:20,096 I ever fucking devoted my life to. 1101 01:01:23,308 --> 01:01:26,770 I think, at that point, she was so fed up. 1102 01:01:26,895 --> 01:01:28,688 He did all of this to her 1103 01:01:28,813 --> 01:01:30,982 and on top of that, cheated on her. 1104 01:01:31,107 --> 01:01:33,276 She didn't care about their image 1105 01:01:33,401 --> 01:01:35,028 as a happy couple anymore. 1106 01:01:35,153 --> 01:01:37,614 It shows that she's strong. 1107 01:01:37,739 --> 01:01:40,492 And I can see in my friend 1108 01:01:40,617 --> 01:01:43,995 that she's on a healing process. 1109 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,538 She's over it. 1110 01:01:51,836 --> 01:01:53,963 As soon as Ana posted that video, 1111 01:01:54,089 --> 01:01:55,382 Ali was furious. 1112 01:01:55,507 --> 01:01:57,842 He was desperately blowing up her phone... 1113 01:01:58,968 --> 01:02:01,137 threatening her to take the TikTok down. 1114 01:02:03,181 --> 01:02:05,183 You block me, you delete my pictures, 1115 01:02:05,308 --> 01:02:07,102 you fucking post a video on TikTok, 1116 01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:08,687 saying seven years of abusive... 1117 01:02:08,812 --> 01:02:10,397 Shut the fuck up, you bitch. 1118 01:02:11,064 --> 01:02:13,817 So she did, but a lot of people saw it before that. 1119 01:02:19,447 --> 01:02:21,074 She packed her bags 1120 01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:23,368 and she moved into my friend's house. 1121 01:02:24,285 --> 01:02:27,706 She was trying to move on from her relationship with Ali. 1122 01:02:34,587 --> 01:02:36,965 So Ana says... 1123 01:02:46,474 --> 01:02:47,684 And he goes... 1124 01:02:49,436 --> 01:02:50,645 And she says... 1125 01:02:59,487 --> 01:03:00,864 He didn't even deserve that. 1126 01:03:00,989 --> 01:03:03,283 After everything that he did to her 1127 01:03:03,408 --> 01:03:06,494 and for her to still love him how she did, 1128 01:03:06,619 --> 01:03:08,496 he didn't deserve that at all. 1129 01:03:11,541 --> 01:03:14,044 As Ali starts realizing 1130 01:03:14,169 --> 01:03:17,088 that he has permanently lost Ana 1131 01:03:17,213 --> 01:03:20,884 and realizing that he is not going to get her back, 1132 01:03:21,009 --> 01:03:22,552 he begins to change. 1133 01:03:23,178 --> 01:03:24,804 I gave you this life, all right? 1134 01:03:24,929 --> 01:03:26,723 And the second you started telling me 1135 01:03:26,848 --> 01:03:28,034 that I don't do anything for you, 1136 01:03:28,058 --> 01:03:29,684 that you don't need me. 1137 01:03:29,809 --> 01:03:31,644 I'm going to show you how much you needed me. 1138 01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:33,271 I'm going to show you. 1139 01:03:33,396 --> 01:03:34,939 Life's going to show you. 1140 01:03:35,065 --> 01:03:36,945 Life's going to show you how much you needed me. 1141 01:03:40,528 --> 01:03:41,821 So, at this point, 1142 01:03:41,946 --> 01:03:44,616 Ana is living with my friend, 1143 01:03:44,741 --> 01:03:48,286 and Ali continues to live at their apartment. 1144 01:03:48,411 --> 01:03:50,205 She was trying to figure out 1145 01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:52,457 how she was going to start her life in San Diego 1146 01:03:52,582 --> 01:03:53,958 without Ali. 1147 01:03:54,084 --> 01:03:56,169 I did fear for Ana's life. 1148 01:03:56,294 --> 01:03:59,172 I brought up that, "Ali has a gun, you know. 1149 01:03:59,297 --> 01:04:01,174 Do you know how far he would take this?" 1150 01:04:01,299 --> 01:04:02,842 And she would always reassure me. 1151 01:04:02,967 --> 01:04:04,969 She said, "Babe, he would never do that." 1152 01:04:07,597 --> 01:04:08,890 But Ana... 1153 01:04:10,934 --> 01:04:12,811 didn't think the worst like we did. 1154 01:04:14,354 --> 01:04:17,482 There's sometimes this lack of realization 1155 01:04:17,607 --> 01:04:20,819 that maybe the person would never have hurt you before, 1156 01:04:20,944 --> 01:04:23,029 you haven't left them before. 1157 01:04:23,154 --> 01:04:26,199 And so we can't count on past behavior 1158 01:04:26,324 --> 01:04:28,660 being the same as it is now. 1159 01:04:32,372 --> 01:04:34,874 Ali, out of nowhere, reaches out to her and says, 1160 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,293 "I'm going to go stay at a hotel, 1161 01:04:37,419 --> 01:04:39,963 and why don't you just move back into the apartment?" 1162 01:04:40,088 --> 01:04:42,799 And Ana was like, "Oh, this is so exciting." 1163 01:04:42,924 --> 01:04:44,324 This would solve all of my problems. 1164 01:04:44,426 --> 01:04:46,219 I can move back into the apartment. 1165 01:04:46,344 --> 01:04:47,762 I don't have to worry about looking 1166 01:04:47,887 --> 01:04:49,139 "for another place to live." 1167 01:04:50,015 --> 01:04:52,392 And I think that him offering her the apartment 1168 01:04:52,517 --> 01:04:55,812 was all just a plan to get her in a room, 1169 01:04:55,937 --> 01:04:57,313 so he can do what he did. 1170 01:05:04,779 --> 01:05:06,156 On October 21st, 1171 01:05:06,281 --> 01:05:08,825 the day starts out with Ana heading out 1172 01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:10,285 to take her daughter to school. 1173 01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,829 Ali has, unbeknownst to her, 1174 01:05:12,954 --> 01:05:15,665 made a copy of the electronic key 1175 01:05:15,790 --> 01:05:17,250 to get into her apartment. 1176 01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:20,211 Ali uses the secret key 1177 01:05:20,337 --> 01:05:22,088 and he enters the apartment... 1178 01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:26,676 and he vandalizes it. 1179 01:05:29,637 --> 01:05:33,099 And then he puts an app on his daughter's iPad, 1180 01:05:33,224 --> 01:05:34,976 so that he can listen in 1181 01:05:35,101 --> 01:05:37,020 on conversations in the apartment. 1182 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,315 He is so fixated on what Ana's doing 1183 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,109 and wanting to catch her cheating on him 1184 01:05:43,234 --> 01:05:46,071 or some damning piece of evidence. 1185 01:05:49,783 --> 01:05:52,827 Around 11 o'clock, Ana returned to the apartment. 1186 01:05:53,787 --> 01:05:56,331 She just calls me and she said, 1187 01:05:56,456 --> 01:06:00,418 "Babe, I came home and the apartment is a mess. 1188 01:06:00,543 --> 01:06:02,796 There's stuff all over the floor. 1189 01:06:02,921 --> 01:06:04,798 Everything's broken." 1190 01:06:06,091 --> 01:06:08,152 I was like, "Oh, my goodness, you need to get out of there." 1191 01:06:08,176 --> 01:06:09,969 And she said, "I'll call the front desk. 1192 01:06:10,095 --> 01:06:11,888 I'll ask them to change the locks. 1193 01:06:12,013 --> 01:06:14,849 I'm going to go today to get a restraining order against him. 1194 01:06:14,974 --> 01:06:16,434 Don't worry. I got this." 1195 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,353 She's like, "I just need a favor." 1196 01:06:18,478 --> 01:06:20,980 Can you pick Amira up from school for me, 1197 01:06:21,106 --> 01:06:22,899 so that I can clean this apartment? 1198 01:06:23,024 --> 01:06:24,776 I don't want her to come home to this mess 1199 01:06:24,901 --> 01:06:26,027 "and ask me what happened." 1200 01:06:28,780 --> 01:06:30,907 Ana felt very scared 1201 01:06:31,032 --> 01:06:33,201 after he vandalized the apartment... 1202 01:06:34,077 --> 01:06:38,039 and asked Ray to come over and help clean up. 1203 01:06:39,082 --> 01:06:41,543 Ana and Rayburn were friends. 1204 01:06:41,668 --> 01:06:44,170 Ana said that they were just hanging out. 1205 01:06:45,755 --> 01:06:48,675 A few hours later, Rayburn arrives to the apartment 1206 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,385 and they're talking. 1207 01:06:50,510 --> 01:06:53,138 Ali is back at his hotel room, 1208 01:06:53,263 --> 01:06:55,223 listening in, and he can hear 1209 01:06:55,348 --> 01:06:58,143 Ana's there with a male voice. 1210 01:06:59,894 --> 01:07:01,604 Ali gets in his car 1211 01:07:01,730 --> 01:07:03,773 and he drives over to the apartment 1212 01:07:03,898 --> 01:07:05,066 in downtown San Diego. 1213 01:07:12,532 --> 01:07:15,535 Ali parks the car, and then he enters on foot 1214 01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:18,329 into the parking garage around 2:50. 1215 01:07:19,706 --> 01:07:21,916 He then starts recording with his phone. 1216 01:07:24,794 --> 01:07:28,423 Ali enters the elevator and he encounters another person 1217 01:07:28,548 --> 01:07:30,884 and he engages in some small talk. 1218 01:07:40,185 --> 01:07:44,439 At 2:58, Ali arrives on the 35th floor. 1219 01:07:44,564 --> 01:07:47,192 Thirty-five. 1220 01:07:49,152 --> 01:07:53,031 Ali gets off the elevator, he walks down the hallway... 1221 01:07:54,699 --> 01:07:57,494 and using the electronic key card that he made... 1222 01:07:59,245 --> 01:08:01,956 you can hear him opening up the door. 1223 01:08:06,169 --> 01:08:07,712 He racks a round into the gun. 1224 01:08:10,382 --> 01:08:12,801 You can hear Rayburn call out. 1225 01:08:12,926 --> 01:08:14,135 Whoa! 1226 01:08:14,928 --> 01:08:16,513 And then we hear the gunshots. 1227 01:08:20,684 --> 01:08:23,353 And you can hear Ana's voice as well as she's calling out. 1228 01:08:29,901 --> 01:08:32,654 He racks a couple more rounds in after the first four shots... 1229 01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:35,532 and then shoots two more times. 1230 01:08:45,917 --> 01:08:50,046 At this point, Ali exits the apartment. 1231 01:08:52,590 --> 01:08:55,010 He goes back and forth a few times, 1232 01:08:55,135 --> 01:08:58,930 then he opens the door of the apartment again... 1233 01:09:01,391 --> 01:09:03,601 and screams out Ana's name. 1234 01:09:05,895 --> 01:09:08,023 Ana! Ana! 1235 01:09:22,996 --> 01:09:24,289 Yes. 1236 01:09:26,791 --> 01:09:29,127 I was going to pick her up before I headed into work. 1237 01:09:29,252 --> 01:09:31,087 And right in front of me, 1238 01:09:31,212 --> 01:09:33,548 I see Ali pull up 1239 01:09:33,673 --> 01:09:35,842 and grab Amira and put her in the car. 1240 01:09:36,968 --> 01:09:38,636 At this point, I'm not sure what to do. 1241 01:09:38,762 --> 01:09:40,388 I was supposed to pick her up. 1242 01:09:40,513 --> 01:09:42,974 So I'm trying to call Ana and she doesn't pick up. 1243 01:09:44,601 --> 01:09:46,019 And I'm texting her, I'm like, 1244 01:09:46,144 --> 01:09:47,744 "Hey, Ali's here trying to pick Amira up. 1245 01:09:47,771 --> 01:09:49,272 What do I do? What do I do?" 1246 01:09:49,397 --> 01:09:50,732 She didn't text me back. 1247 01:09:51,107 --> 01:09:53,234 And so I follow him 1248 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,320 while I'm calling and calling her, 1249 01:09:55,445 --> 01:09:58,239 trying to get an answer of what I should do. 1250 01:09:58,365 --> 01:10:00,742 Car gets in between us and he goes far 1251 01:10:00,867 --> 01:10:02,494 and he turns right and then I lose him. 1252 01:10:09,125 --> 01:10:12,587 There was a neighbor witness who actually heard the shots. 1253 01:10:12,712 --> 01:10:14,005 She calls 911. 1254 01:10:25,809 --> 01:10:28,353 Ali's Jeep is spotted on the I-15 freeway 1255 01:10:28,478 --> 01:10:30,480 where he is arrested. 1256 01:10:31,690 --> 01:10:34,526 They search the car and they find a gun 1257 01:10:34,651 --> 01:10:36,528 and they find about 100 rounds 1258 01:10:36,653 --> 01:10:38,530 of nine millimeter ammunition. 1259 01:10:39,948 --> 01:10:41,324 The daughter is fine 1260 01:10:41,449 --> 01:10:43,576 and they take custody of the daughter 1261 01:10:43,702 --> 01:10:45,787 and she's later given to family members. 1262 01:10:49,749 --> 01:10:52,293 At that point, I just... I was lost. 1263 01:10:52,419 --> 01:10:54,838 I... I didn't know what to do. I was panicking. 1264 01:10:54,963 --> 01:10:56,297 I called my friend Claire. 1265 01:10:56,423 --> 01:10:58,091 I said, "Claire, Ana hasn't picked up. 1266 01:10:58,216 --> 01:11:01,386 That's really strange. Can you go to her apartment?" 1267 01:11:02,053 --> 01:11:03,805 And then she calls me 15 minutes later 1268 01:11:03,930 --> 01:11:06,641 and she's like, "I can't get to her apartment." 1269 01:11:07,559 --> 01:11:09,159 I was like, "What are you talking about?" 1270 01:11:09,227 --> 01:11:10,621 She says, "They have it blocked off. 1271 01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:12,439 There's a lot of cops here." 1272 01:11:14,649 --> 01:11:17,569 And my heart just sank. 1273 01:11:17,694 --> 01:11:21,031 And I was just... I just knew already. 1274 01:11:21,156 --> 01:11:22,699 I just knew. 1275 01:11:22,824 --> 01:11:25,160 But I was in disbelief. I was in shock. 1276 01:11:27,787 --> 01:11:29,622 New information this afternoon 1277 01:11:29,748 --> 01:11:32,417 about a double homicide inside an East Village high rise. 1278 01:11:32,542 --> 01:11:34,461 Two people have been confirmed dead 1279 01:11:34,586 --> 01:11:37,922 after a shooting that happened at Island in 15. 1280 01:11:39,299 --> 01:11:42,469 The friend called me and she was crying. 1281 01:11:42,594 --> 01:11:45,847 She said that, "I think he finally did it." 1282 01:11:49,559 --> 01:11:50,977 Cops made entry. 1283 01:11:51,102 --> 01:11:53,063 They find that Rayburn 1284 01:11:53,188 --> 01:11:55,440 is on the couch, deceased. 1285 01:11:55,565 --> 01:11:57,984 He has a gunshot wound to his face 1286 01:11:58,109 --> 01:11:59,778 and his head is back. 1287 01:11:59,903 --> 01:12:02,238 Ana is sitting next to him. 1288 01:12:02,364 --> 01:12:04,574 She has a gunshot wound to her head 1289 01:12:04,699 --> 01:12:08,453 and her body is slumped over, kind of in his lap. 1290 01:12:15,794 --> 01:12:17,962 It was already two in the morning. 1291 01:12:18,088 --> 01:12:19,422 And we're all sitting in the lobby 1292 01:12:19,547 --> 01:12:20,799 and we're just waiting. 1293 01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:27,430 Police come and he says, "I'm so sorry, 1294 01:12:27,555 --> 01:12:30,266 but that was Ana Marie and Rayburn 1295 01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:31,601 that was shot upstairs." 1296 01:12:33,061 --> 01:12:34,061 And... 1297 01:12:35,063 --> 01:12:37,190 I've just never felt anything like that. 1298 01:12:37,315 --> 01:12:39,943 My... my heart just dropped. 1299 01:12:40,068 --> 01:12:43,029 I've just never felt so much pain before. 1300 01:12:44,197 --> 01:12:46,825 I called... Ana's mom was the first person I called... 1301 01:12:47,867 --> 01:12:48,867 and I told her. 1302 01:12:49,536 --> 01:12:52,247 And she's like, "What are you talking about, Julia? 1303 01:12:52,372 --> 01:12:53,790 What are you talking about?" 1304 01:12:54,165 --> 01:12:56,543 And... and I couldn't tell her. 1305 01:12:56,668 --> 01:12:59,170 And we just both started crying on the phone. 1306 01:13:06,344 --> 01:13:08,722 It was so shocking. It was unreal. 1307 01:13:08,847 --> 01:13:10,849 I didn't believe it at first 1308 01:13:10,974 --> 01:13:13,893 until the news came out. 1309 01:13:14,019 --> 01:13:17,397 And then I saw the condo taped off 1310 01:13:17,522 --> 01:13:19,190 and the police outside and... 1311 01:13:20,233 --> 01:13:21,401 it was real. 1312 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,571 Ali confesses to police 1313 01:13:24,696 --> 01:13:26,781 five hours after the murders, 1314 01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:30,660 Ali is charged with two counts of first degree murder, 1315 01:13:30,785 --> 01:13:32,579 a gun use allegation, 1316 01:13:32,704 --> 01:13:35,373 and a special circumstance allegation 1317 01:13:35,498 --> 01:13:37,334 of committing multiple murders, 1318 01:13:37,459 --> 01:13:40,670 which means that he could face the death penalty. 1319 01:13:49,346 --> 01:13:51,222 I attended the preliminary hearing. 1320 01:13:51,348 --> 01:13:53,224 I mean, it was explosive. 1321 01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:55,110 I did work at the district attorney's office, 1322 01:13:55,185 --> 01:13:57,562 and I've done criminal post-conviction law, 1323 01:13:57,687 --> 01:13:59,939 and I've never been to a hearing like that. 1324 01:14:00,774 --> 01:14:02,984 One of the detectives testified 1325 01:14:03,109 --> 01:14:06,112 that when he reviewed the Instagram account of Ana, 1326 01:14:06,237 --> 01:14:08,656 he started describing what he thought 1327 01:14:08,782 --> 01:14:11,743 was a relationship between Ana and Rayburn 1328 01:14:11,868 --> 01:14:14,329 that now had turned more romantic. 1329 01:14:25,131 --> 01:14:28,426 It's very unusual to have the defendant 1330 01:14:28,551 --> 01:14:30,804 say anything in a court proceeding. 1331 01:14:30,929 --> 01:14:33,223 And then he just completely started losing it 1332 01:14:33,348 --> 01:14:34,516 from that point. 1333 01:14:49,656 --> 01:14:51,199 What would you do if you found out 1334 01:14:51,324 --> 01:14:52,826 that your favorite TikTok star 1335 01:14:52,951 --> 01:14:54,869 was actually a cold-blooded killer? 1336 01:14:54,994 --> 01:14:57,497 Whoa. I know you've seen these videos. 1337 01:14:57,622 --> 01:15:00,291 The terrifying story of Ali Abulaban. 1338 01:15:00,417 --> 01:15:02,085 It was big news. 1339 01:15:02,210 --> 01:15:04,462 A beautiful couple is now torn apart 1340 01:15:04,587 --> 01:15:06,339 because of a double homicide. 1341 01:15:06,464 --> 01:15:09,050 This TikTok influencer was just arrested for murder. 1342 01:15:09,175 --> 01:15:11,177 Ali pled not guilty to first degree murder charges. 1343 01:15:11,302 --> 01:15:12,738 This is why you shouldn't believe everything 1344 01:15:12,762 --> 01:15:13,972 you see on social media. 1345 01:15:14,097 --> 01:15:15,348 People were hearing about this 1346 01:15:15,473 --> 01:15:16,641 almost across the world. 1347 01:15:20,311 --> 01:15:22,897 And then when I saw the outbursts in court... 1348 01:15:23,023 --> 01:15:24,149 I wanted this? 1349 01:15:24,274 --> 01:15:25,354 That's when I wrote him. 1350 01:15:25,442 --> 01:15:26,776 Who the are you? 1351 01:15:26,901 --> 01:15:28,261 "I'm a reporter covering the story, 1352 01:15:28,361 --> 01:15:30,071 and I'd love to hear your side." 1353 01:15:30,822 --> 01:15:33,158 Now to a story you'll see first on Fox 5. 1354 01:15:33,283 --> 01:15:36,119 A jailhouse interview with a rising TikTok star 1355 01:15:36,244 --> 01:15:38,329 accused of double murder. 1356 01:15:41,124 --> 01:15:43,835 So when you heard Rayburn's voice, you went to... 1357 01:15:46,838 --> 01:15:48,006 But what were you thinking? 1358 01:15:54,095 --> 01:15:56,473 The crying, the screaming, the slamming. 1359 01:15:56,598 --> 01:15:58,933 When I saw that, I just saw pure evil. 1360 01:15:59,726 --> 01:16:01,726 What happens when you get to the apartment? 1361 01:16:13,114 --> 01:16:14,532 And he says, 1362 01:16:14,657 --> 01:16:17,994 "Ray is on my couch, my house." 1363 01:16:18,119 --> 01:16:19,329 "My, my, my." 1364 01:16:19,788 --> 01:16:21,539 Your family says that 1365 01:16:21,664 --> 01:16:23,416 your social media fame changed you. 1366 01:16:23,541 --> 01:16:25,752 They say that you were doing cocaine, 1367 01:16:25,877 --> 01:16:27,712 didn't really care about the consequences. 1368 01:16:27,837 --> 01:16:29,339 Do you think that made you snap? 1369 01:16:29,464 --> 01:16:30,632 Do you think it changed you? 1370 01:16:48,566 --> 01:16:49,734 Mm-hmm. 1371 01:16:52,404 --> 01:16:54,155 When he's talking about losing his baby, 1372 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,659 he's talking about losing his business, his followers. 1373 01:16:57,784 --> 01:17:00,829 You can see what makes him the most emotional 1374 01:17:00,954 --> 01:17:03,998 is that he feels he lost his chance at fame. 1375 01:17:04,624 --> 01:17:08,294 And you can tell that outweighs, 1376 01:17:08,420 --> 01:17:11,589 in his point of view, losing his family. 1377 01:17:20,098 --> 01:17:22,642 That, to me, is the most disgusting, 1378 01:17:22,767 --> 01:17:24,936 volatile part of... 1379 01:17:25,937 --> 01:17:28,523 everything that has to do with him. 1380 01:17:28,648 --> 01:17:30,650 He only wanted to bring up 1381 01:17:30,775 --> 01:17:34,029 he was this close to getting famous. 1382 01:17:34,696 --> 01:17:36,948 Which is a stretch from reality. 1383 01:17:37,073 --> 01:17:39,909 I don't think his content was very funny at all. 1384 01:17:40,869 --> 01:17:42,454 Did you kill her? 1385 01:17:48,835 --> 01:17:50,503 Could anyone else have Ana? 1386 01:18:03,725 --> 01:18:06,895 From jail, Ali actually posted a video on YouTube. 1387 01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:08,438 Someone posted it on his behalf. 1388 01:18:08,563 --> 01:18:10,273 Hey, what's up, guys? 1389 01:18:10,398 --> 01:18:12,859 It's Ali, AKA JinnKid. 1390 01:18:12,984 --> 01:18:14,694 I haven't called myself that for a while. 1391 01:18:14,819 --> 01:18:17,322 But, uh, I just wanted to check in, 1392 01:18:17,447 --> 01:18:19,657 say that I'm doing okay for the most part. 1393 01:18:19,783 --> 01:18:21,409 I'm trying my best to stay positive. 1394 01:18:21,534 --> 01:18:24,079 He seems to be more focused on the fame still. 1395 01:18:24,204 --> 01:18:27,082 He's like, "Oh, I'll be back soon, guys. 1396 01:18:27,207 --> 01:18:29,226 I'm going to get you guys the content you guys want. 1397 01:18:29,250 --> 01:18:31,878 I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry that I'm stuck behind bars." 1398 01:18:32,003 --> 01:18:34,089 I just wanted to say I'm sorry 1399 01:18:34,214 --> 01:18:36,216 that I can't make the videos that you love. 1400 01:18:36,341 --> 01:18:38,218 I'm sorry that, you know, 1401 01:18:38,343 --> 01:18:42,305 my life has come down to this. 1402 01:18:42,430 --> 01:18:46,101 But not sorry to his wife, or the man that he killed. 1403 01:18:46,226 --> 01:18:48,269 I love that you still support me 1404 01:18:48,395 --> 01:18:51,189 and you still watch my videos and I love you guys. 1405 01:18:51,314 --> 01:18:53,692 Thank you for all the great times. 1406 01:18:57,445 --> 01:18:59,614 Social media can be really dangerous 1407 01:18:59,739 --> 01:19:02,409 in the hands of the wrong person. 1408 01:19:02,534 --> 01:19:04,828 I don't know to what extent 1409 01:19:04,953 --> 01:19:06,538 Ali's obsession 1410 01:19:06,663 --> 01:19:08,832 with his social media presence 1411 01:19:08,957 --> 01:19:11,459 led to what he did. 1412 01:19:11,584 --> 01:19:14,295 But he clearly had a very unhealthy relationship 1413 01:19:14,421 --> 01:19:15,964 with social media, 1414 01:19:16,089 --> 01:19:18,800 that muddied his understanding of reality, 1415 01:19:18,925 --> 01:19:22,262 that seemed to shape his impression 1416 01:19:22,387 --> 01:19:25,598 of what he believed was an acceptable way to behave. 1417 01:19:25,724 --> 01:19:29,644 And I think that's something worth paying attention to. 1418 01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:40,905 Ali's decisions have had dire consequences 1419 01:19:41,031 --> 01:19:44,200 for not only himself, but for my entire family. 1420 01:19:44,325 --> 01:19:46,286 It's going to affect us for the rest of our lives. 1421 01:19:47,245 --> 01:19:50,290 Ali's actions have taken away a mother 1422 01:19:50,415 --> 01:19:52,625 and a father from their daughter. 1423 01:19:52,751 --> 01:19:54,711 And now the daughter, you know, 1424 01:19:54,836 --> 01:19:56,671 is going to grow up 1425 01:19:56,796 --> 01:19:59,507 with somebody else other than her actual parents. 1426 01:19:59,632 --> 01:20:02,635 But at least she gets to be with her family. 1427 01:20:12,771 --> 01:20:14,939 Authorities finally allowed... 1428 01:20:16,316 --> 01:20:18,276 family and friends to come into the apartment 1429 01:20:18,401 --> 01:20:21,613 and grab whatever Ana had left. 1430 01:20:22,864 --> 01:20:26,117 The apartment was still exactly the same... 1431 01:20:27,786 --> 01:20:30,872 except the bodies not being there. 1432 01:20:35,210 --> 01:20:36,628 When we walked into the crime scene, 1433 01:20:36,753 --> 01:20:37,962 it was just... 1434 01:20:39,547 --> 01:20:41,174 it was very hard. 1435 01:20:41,299 --> 01:20:44,928 You see the breakfast from that morning 1436 01:20:45,053 --> 01:20:47,222 still on the coffee table. 1437 01:20:48,682 --> 01:20:51,643 They took a part of the couch out where it happened. 1438 01:20:51,768 --> 01:20:53,395 But you see the bullet holes. 1439 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,690 You see the mess that Ali created that morning 1440 01:20:56,815 --> 01:20:58,525 that she was FaceTiming me about. 1441 01:20:59,192 --> 01:21:01,194 It was... it was very hard. 1442 01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:03,238 But, you know, we were there 1443 01:21:03,363 --> 01:21:06,574 to help Ana's family retrieve her things. 1444 01:21:06,700 --> 01:21:08,410 And so that's what we did. 1445 01:21:11,955 --> 01:21:13,790 All I could think about was, 1446 01:21:13,915 --> 01:21:15,667 I would've tried harder... 1447 01:21:18,336 --> 01:21:21,006 to get her out and keep her safe. 1448 01:21:24,259 --> 01:21:26,177 Because you need a tribe 1449 01:21:26,302 --> 01:21:29,305 to get out of a narcissistic relationship. 1450 01:21:29,431 --> 01:21:32,434 It's hard for me to accept her death, 1451 01:21:32,559 --> 01:21:35,645 because I want to say she's in a better place, 1452 01:21:35,770 --> 01:21:38,940 but a better place, it should be with her daughter. 1453 01:21:43,028 --> 01:21:45,280 This case is so much about Ana and Ali, 1454 01:21:45,405 --> 01:21:47,449 sometimes we forget there's another victim here 1455 01:21:47,574 --> 01:21:48,783 who lost his life. 1456 01:21:48,908 --> 01:21:49,909 That's Ray. 1457 01:21:51,202 --> 01:21:53,580 And maybe he was at the wrong place in the wrong time. 1458 01:21:53,705 --> 01:21:55,457 He was a good friend. 1459 01:21:57,542 --> 01:22:00,170 Ray chose to be there for Ana, 1460 01:22:00,295 --> 01:22:03,298 because he saw her light 1461 01:22:03,423 --> 01:22:06,092 that was surrounded by a lot of darkness. 1462 01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:14,618 The trial of a popular TikTok star 1463 01:22:14,642 --> 01:22:16,186 started today. 1464 01:22:16,311 --> 01:22:18,938 Both sides actually agree that Ali Abulaban 1465 01:22:19,064 --> 01:22:21,524 killed his estranged wife and her friend. 1466 01:22:21,649 --> 01:22:23,109 But as for why it happened, 1467 01:22:23,234 --> 01:22:25,945 there are two very different stories. 1468 01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:27,822 Everyone rise, please. 1469 01:22:29,991 --> 01:22:32,118 The Superior Court is now in session. 1470 01:22:32,243 --> 01:22:34,287 At the end of this trial, I will ask 1471 01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:36,164 that you find the defendant guilty 1472 01:22:36,289 --> 01:22:38,833 of two counts of first-degree murder. 1473 01:22:40,001 --> 01:22:41,503 One for Ana, one for Ray. 1474 01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:53,390 It's not up for debate if Ali killed Ana and Ray. 1475 01:22:53,515 --> 01:22:57,143 The question is, was this premeditated? 1476 01:22:57,268 --> 01:22:59,896 Willfully spied on Ana, caught her that day. 1477 01:23:00,021 --> 01:23:03,108 When we're talking about proving premeditation, 1478 01:23:03,233 --> 01:23:04,776 that's a pretty tall order. 1479 01:23:04,901 --> 01:23:06,903 Even if you have one jury member 1480 01:23:07,028 --> 01:23:08,446 who doesn't agree with that, 1481 01:23:08,571 --> 01:23:10,451 you can have a hung jury, and that's a mistrial. 1482 01:23:13,618 --> 01:23:15,745 There's a lot of evidence in this trial. 1483 01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:17,497 The audio from Ali's phone 1484 01:23:25,255 --> 01:23:26,965 They also have video of Ali 1485 01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:29,300 riding at the elevator, 35 floors. 1486 01:23:29,426 --> 01:23:32,429 Going up. Level 20. 1487 01:23:33,972 --> 01:23:36,099 Level 35. 1488 01:23:36,725 --> 01:23:38,165 A Nest Camera that's attached 1489 01:23:38,268 --> 01:23:39,978 to one of the neighbor's doors. 1490 01:23:46,401 --> 01:23:50,488 And you see Ali walk out of the room into the hallway, 1491 01:23:50,613 --> 01:23:51,823 and he calls his mother, 1492 01:23:51,948 --> 01:23:54,159 and he confesses to killing Ana. 1493 01:24:02,459 --> 01:24:04,252 Ana knew Ali well. 1494 01:24:04,377 --> 01:24:06,546 She knew his underlying vulnerabilities. 1495 01:24:06,671 --> 01:24:08,715 Public defender Jodi Green argues 1496 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,842 that this it is voluntary manslaughter 1497 01:24:10,967 --> 01:24:13,803 because she says this was a crime of passion 1498 01:24:13,928 --> 01:24:15,513 and that Ali was provoked. 1499 01:24:25,607 --> 01:24:28,568 She knew his insecurities about his mental illness, 1500 01:24:28,693 --> 01:24:31,946 his drug addiction, and his own chaotic upbringing. 1501 01:24:32,072 --> 01:24:33,406 She used these, 1502 01:24:33,531 --> 01:24:35,283 and she weaponized them against him. 1503 01:24:36,910 --> 01:24:40,663 She's saying that Ana pushed Ali to the brink, 1504 01:24:40,789 --> 01:24:42,332 and that's why he broke. 1505 01:24:42,999 --> 01:24:46,252 That Ana was a cause of why he killed her. 1506 01:24:46,378 --> 01:24:48,713 That Ana disrespected him. 1507 01:24:48,838 --> 01:24:51,466 We also see a picture of Ana and Ray 1508 01:24:51,591 --> 01:24:54,219 kind of cuddled up together on what looks to be a bed. 1509 01:24:54,344 --> 01:24:56,262 She's saying Ana cheated on him, 1510 01:24:56,388 --> 01:24:58,473 causing him to lose his mind, 1511 01:24:58,598 --> 01:25:01,184 go to the brink, and shoot Ana and Ray. 1512 01:25:05,021 --> 01:25:07,232 And at this time, the defense would call 1513 01:25:07,357 --> 01:25:09,359 Mr. Ali Abulaban. 1514 01:25:09,484 --> 01:25:13,071 And then on May 21st, the defense calls Ali. 1515 01:25:15,323 --> 01:25:17,909 On the stand, Ali is basically saying, 1516 01:25:18,034 --> 01:25:19,619 "Hey, I'm not a liar, here." 1517 01:25:19,744 --> 01:25:23,707 He's admitting to killing Ana and Ray 1518 01:25:23,832 --> 01:25:25,125 and to being abusive, 1519 01:25:25,250 --> 01:25:28,670 and it's making him seem believable. 1520 01:25:28,795 --> 01:25:30,922 I was trying to believe her, I was trying to believe 1521 01:25:31,047 --> 01:25:32,674 that she wasn't cheating on me, 1522 01:25:32,799 --> 01:25:34,777 that she would let me fix this, because I was sick. 1523 01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:37,595 I was struggling from drugs and mental illness. 1524 01:25:37,721 --> 01:25:39,347 And when I saw that it was him... 1525 01:25:43,184 --> 01:25:44,561 I couldn't take it. 1526 01:25:44,686 --> 01:25:47,105 I couldn't take the fucking betrayal. 1527 01:25:48,273 --> 01:25:50,150 Thank you. Nothing further at this time. 1528 01:25:51,985 --> 01:25:55,071 Taren Brast begins her cross-examination. 1529 01:25:56,406 --> 01:25:59,576 And you know from the beginning, she's trying to break him down. 1530 01:25:59,701 --> 01:26:02,037 You were mad at Ana because she told you 1531 01:26:02,162 --> 01:26:04,080 over and over again that she did not want to be 1532 01:26:04,205 --> 01:26:05,457 married to you, correct? 1533 01:26:06,875 --> 01:26:08,626 You were mad at Ana. 1534 01:26:08,752 --> 01:26:11,671 October 17th, you were violent and angry with her, correct? 1535 01:26:11,796 --> 01:26:14,382 I became violent at the last second, yes. 1536 01:26:14,507 --> 01:26:16,593 She's bringing up searches on his phone, 1537 01:26:16,718 --> 01:26:18,553 such as a trash can, 1538 01:26:18,678 --> 01:26:22,098 exploitation of minors, sex workers, 1539 01:26:22,223 --> 01:26:24,184 and chopped bodies. 1540 01:26:24,309 --> 01:26:25,435 You're out of your mind. 1541 01:26:26,227 --> 01:26:28,229 You're not going to paint me as something I'm not. 1542 01:26:30,648 --> 01:26:34,194 After a four-week excruciating trial, 1543 01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:36,237 the jury retires to deliberate, 1544 01:26:36,363 --> 01:26:38,656 and everyone is just on pins and needles 1545 01:26:38,782 --> 01:26:40,533 to see what's going to happen. 1546 01:26:43,703 --> 01:26:45,743 Come to order. The court is now is session. 1547 01:26:54,005 --> 01:26:55,965 We, the jury, in the above-entitled cause, 1548 01:26:56,091 --> 01:26:59,886 find the defendant, Ali Nasser Abulaban, guilty 1549 01:27:00,011 --> 01:27:02,472 of the crime of murder in the first degree. 1550 01:27:05,058 --> 01:27:06,726 The jury finds Ali guilty 1551 01:27:06,851 --> 01:27:09,312 of two counts of first-degree murder. 1552 01:27:14,818 --> 01:27:17,737 We didn't have any doubt that we were going to get 1553 01:27:17,862 --> 01:27:20,865 anything other than guilty, but it's just the relief. 1554 01:27:20,990 --> 01:27:23,284 We've been waiting almost three years for this. 1555 01:27:23,410 --> 01:27:26,079 She didn't think he would do it 1556 01:27:26,204 --> 01:27:28,039 because every domestic violence victim 1557 01:27:28,164 --> 01:27:30,417 is not there for themselves. 1558 01:27:32,752 --> 01:27:34,480 And that's what we need to change in this world. 1559 01:27:34,504 --> 01:27:36,006 We need to look at this situation, 1560 01:27:36,131 --> 01:27:37,382 and this is the end result. 1561 01:27:37,507 --> 01:27:39,342 This is the end result. 1562 01:27:42,679 --> 01:27:45,390 I think for anyone who's in a situation 1563 01:27:45,515 --> 01:27:47,392 where they're experiencing abuse, 1564 01:27:47,517 --> 01:27:50,520 the number one thing, I think, is to reach out to somebody. 1565 01:27:50,645 --> 01:27:54,607 I think the enemy of making healthy decisions 1566 01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:58,361 is isolation and keeping things to yourself. 1567 01:27:58,486 --> 01:27:59,988 And so the first step, there are just 1568 01:28:00,113 --> 01:28:01,740 so many resources available. 1569 01:28:01,865 --> 01:28:04,284 There are hotlines, there are community resources. 1570 01:28:04,409 --> 01:28:07,245 Making sure that you end that isolation 1571 01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:08,621 in some way. 1572 01:28:14,586 --> 01:28:18,465 I sit here today, sharing Ana's story, 1573 01:28:18,590 --> 01:28:22,052 because I want people to not be silent, 1574 01:28:22,177 --> 01:28:25,930 to not care about what you look like on social media 1575 01:28:26,056 --> 01:28:29,768 or care what people are going to think of you 1576 01:28:29,893 --> 01:28:32,437 because you're in a bad situation. 1577 01:28:33,688 --> 01:28:35,648 Your truth is who you are, 1578 01:28:35,774 --> 01:28:39,402 and you need to embrace it and own it. 1579 01:28:39,527 --> 01:28:43,239 And we need to be the change that we want for the world. 1580 01:28:45,325 --> 01:28:46,594 I wish we could have seen 1581 01:28:46,618 --> 01:28:48,411 all our daughters grow up together 1582 01:28:48,536 --> 01:28:50,455 and have this mom life, 1583 01:28:50,580 --> 01:28:52,624 take them to the beach and... 1584 01:28:52,749 --> 01:28:55,168 I just... I miss her so much. 1585 01:28:55,293 --> 01:28:56,920 I really, really miss her so much. 1586 01:28:57,045 --> 01:29:00,298 And I really, really wish she was still here with us. 1587 01:29:00,423 --> 01:29:01,716 But we're here now. 1588 01:29:04,928 --> 01:29:07,222 Now we're gonna continue to make her proud. 1589 01:29:10,517 --> 01:29:13,311 Silence is what got Ana here. 1590 01:29:13,436 --> 01:29:16,439 Her story needs to be heard 1591 01:29:16,564 --> 01:29:18,191 to save other women, 1592 01:29:18,316 --> 01:29:22,737 and to prevent children growing up without their parents. 121630

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