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Can you take me back
to jail and shit?
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Trust is hard to get.
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I don't have to
follow that shit.
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The declaration of independence.
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You guys are fucking pathetic.
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Ali is a rising star on TikTok
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with almost a million followers.
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Yo, like, literally
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you're motherfucking
beautiful for me.
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I want you to say, "Y'all
know the fucking vibes."
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Y'all...
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Ana's one of the most
beautiful people on the planet.
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The woman could be
like Miss America.
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Ali and Ana, they fell
in love the second
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they laid eyes upon each other.
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It all seems so perfect.
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On TikTok all it
takes is one video.
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You could wake up
the next morning
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and your whole life
could be changed.
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I remember coming
across the video
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that had probably
2.4 million views.
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And I was like, "Oh
my God, this is Ana."
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It's hard to sometimes
separate that online persona
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to who you truly are
in the real world.
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Me, I want what's coming.
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The world...
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and everything in it.
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And that's when things
start to hit the fan.
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I'm a fucking god!
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I'm a fucking
internet celebrity!
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- Give me my phone back!
- Close the door!
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You're hurting my
fucking finger!
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Ali actually starts
recording with his phone.
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Some of the things that we would
never expect him to record.
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- I can fix it.
- You think that
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and then you wake up and
you're mad again, so stop.
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You're my woman, bitch!
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I brought you to
this goddamn country.
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You should be kissing my feet!
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The internet can be
such an evil place.
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You're need people like me
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so you can point
your fucking fingers.
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I say, that's the bad guy.
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All I could think about was
this is not gonna end well.
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A double homicide inside
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an East Village high rise.
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Ana? Ana?
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It's not surprising that
TikTok is successful.
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It's really entertaining.
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It's addictive and
it's really quick.
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So it's, like, really
satisfying to just, like,
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get these little
bite-sized bits of content
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that are just so easy to
consume and easy to share.
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It can track, like, what
grabs your attention
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in the first second and
what keeps you watching.
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Once you watch something
a couple times,
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it'll just feed you
more and more of that.
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The algorithm is just
really good at keeping you
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on the app, keeping
you scrolling.
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And by 2022, it was the most
downloaded app in the world.
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My name's Andrea Marks.
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I'm a journalist
and I often report
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on the intersection of
social media and crime.
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What drew me to
this story was that
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I like writing about crimes
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which portray this very
interesting section of humanity
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and human behavior and
it makes you wonder
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what would drive a person
to do something like that.
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So that was initially why I
covered it for Rolling Stone.
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TikTok's perfect for Ali,
and Ali's perfect for TikTok.
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No! Fuck not!
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Ali likes to make
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this kind of short form content.
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He's doing these impressions.
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The sun is shining on
my face. I'm blessed.
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John Wick.
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It wasn't just a
dog, it was my wife.
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Nicholas Cage.
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Well, there's a map on the back.
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You... you can't see
it, but I can see it.
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And his most famous one,
Tony Montana from Scarface.
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I told you, man. I told
you. No fucking kids!
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You know, TikTok is the
perfect platform for that
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because it's grabby, it's quick
and he can put out a lot of it.
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Say hello to my little friend.
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But not everything
on social media
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and not everything on
TikTok is what it seems.
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You're gonna be totally fine.
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Well, you guys have
caused a lot of buzz
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within the friend group.
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Honestly, it
connected a lot of us.
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We were kind of
mourning on our own.
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I just want Ana's side
of the story to be heard.
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I personally
witnessed everything
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that she was going through.
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And...
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she was just trying to
keep it all together.
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My name is Louie. I'm
Ali Abulaban's cousin.
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And me and Ali have been
close since I was very young.
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I feel that this
whole situation has,
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you know, turned
my life upside down
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as well as turned my
family's life upside down.
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It's gonna take a very long time
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to recover from
this for all of us.
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Ali comes from a
Middle Eastern family
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that happens to be Muslim.
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A more religious household so
it was stricter environment.
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Ali was a free spirit
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and didn't really
follow religion.
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He did what he wanted to do.
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I remember watching him do
all these different dances
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and singing and all
different types of stuff.
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It's what he was meant to do.
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I really believe Ali
was meant to be a star.
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Ali joined the Air Force when
he was in his late teens,
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like 18, 19.
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I think joining the military
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was a sense of Ali
wanting to, like,
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improve himself, you know,
physically, mentally.
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I think he wanted to
serve his country.
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Ali was stationed
in Okinawa, Japan.
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A lot of people in
the military actually
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get stationed in Okinawa
for two to three years.
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Okinawa is a huge
American military base.
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It's hot, it's tropical,
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it's beautiful, it's fun.
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When you're on this
island together,
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you create these friendships
that just never go away.
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Ana and I grew up
together in Okinawa.
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She's from the Philippines
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and her dad was
stationed in Okinawa.
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We were best friends
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and we had a very
tight-knit friend group.
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And Ana was one of the
more, like, caring,
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loving, happy individual.
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That's what drew me to her.
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I don't think my life would
personally be the same
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if she was never my friend.
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And so I'm very thankful
for the friendship
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that her and I had
shared together.
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Ali and Ana met in 2014.
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She was attracted to
his big personality.
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And he was a singer in a band
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and she found that very
attractive as well.
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I think she saw someone
that was successful,
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that had a good head
on his shoulders.
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He had a good ranking
in the military.
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And they had a lot
of laughter and love.
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At first, I did feel that
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she was very happy and
they were happy together.
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But then Ali got in
trouble with the military.
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He had gotten drunk
and gotten into a fight
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with one of Ana's friends
and allegedly assaulted them.
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Ali does have a very
strong personality.
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He definitely is jealous.
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Every time anyone would
comment on Ana's looks
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or how lucky of a guy he was
to have somebody like Ana,
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he would be very bothered.
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I let her know my concerns.
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I told her I feel like he's
a little bit controlling
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and she explained to me
that, "He is but I love him.
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You have nothing
to worry about."
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But I just remember
feeling uneasy around him.
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When Ali got in a fight,
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what he had done was so
extreme it got him discharged.
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Once you've disrespected
the island and the rules,
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they will kick you
off the island.
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Ali moves back to Virginia
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and his parents were not happy.
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They really wanted their son
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to be successful
in the Air Force.
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They wanted their
son to be successful
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in everything that he would do.
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At the same time, Ana's
family was leaving Okinawa
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and they were moving
back to the Philippines.
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I'm Rachel and...
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Ana is not only
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just a best friend but family.
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Where we came from, we
only had each other.
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When Ana moved back
to the Philippines,
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we lived about
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20 minutes away from each other.
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Ana was living at
home with her family
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and at that point she found out
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that she was pregnant
with Ali's child.
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She was excited and nervous,
but more excited than anything.
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So, in this time,
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Ali wanted to apply
for a visa for Ana.
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While doing that, Ana
waited in the Philippines.
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And eight months later,
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their baby girl,
Amira, was born.
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It takes time before you get
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marriage visa in
the Philippines.
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So, by the time Amira
was nine months...
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he finally was able to
bring Ana to Virginia.
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- Hi, baby.
- Hi baby.
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Oh, she's so cute.
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Ali and Ana decided to
go to Northern Virginia
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because Ali's entire
family is there.
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Ana liked Virginia,
she loved Ali's family.
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They didn't have a wedding,
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they just went to
the courthouse.
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Ali and Ana get their own home
and they started their family.
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Ana was a beautiful woman
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and she was also
creative just like Ali.
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And I just saw like a
match made in heaven.
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- Hey, what's up guys?
- Yo, what's good, Jinn?
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In Virginia, Ali starts
to produce content
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on a lot of platforms
like YouTube and Instagram
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and he goes by the
online handle JinnKid.
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Hey, Jinn, why
the fuck you been?
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I've been working, man.
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These bills aren't
gonna pay themselves.
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Ali created this
persona of JinnKid.
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JinnKid was an escape
from Ali Abulaban
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being an actual human.
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He wanted to be this different
entity that was super famous.
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Oh, shit.
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Goddammit. I just
paid the light bill.
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Hey, Jinn.
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Maybe it's a power
outage, you know?
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What don't you check
outside the windows.
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The word Jinn, pretty
much means a ghost
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or like a soul or like
an entity we cannot see.
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And he felt that it
was like a unique word
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to attach to Kid and
it stuck with him
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and he pretty much wanted
everybody to call him JinnKid,
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including his own family.
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Later on, Ali started
making TikTok videos.
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No! Fuck no!
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Ali loved making TikTok videos
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'cause that was pretty
much like the new YouTube.
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It was like his new platform
to start a new fan base.
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Ah!
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Success on TikTok
is a numbers game
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and Ali becomes
obsessed with it.
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Listen to me, okay.
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I gotta make that film one
day, one way or another.
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It's his path to fame.
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And ultimately that path reveals
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the dark underbelly
of social media. Well,
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I've got news for you, assholes.
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You're all bad people.
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- Hey, babe.
- Mm-hmm.
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I want you to try to do
the six nine impression.
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- Alright.
- Okay.
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So I'll do it
first. All right?
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- All right.
- Yo, like, literally
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you're motherfucking
beautiful for me.
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I want you to say, "Y'all
know the fucking vibes."
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Y'all...
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When they first
moved to Virginia,
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she was happy, she was in love.
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Wait, let's try
the Scarface one.
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Okay. I fucking
love you, babe.
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I want you to be
the love of my life.
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- Okay. How do I do the face?
- I want you...
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Like this. Like you
smell something nasty.
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Ali in the videos
can be charming.
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As Ana's filming him,
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you can actually
hear her giggle.
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I'm trying to save the world.
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What are you doing?
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Ali describes it
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as they're living
the American dream.
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So you're looking
at these videos
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prior to this case
thinking what happened?
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I'm Lucifer.
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Lucifer is my online name
because not everybody
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is comfortable using
the real names.
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I just wanna keep my online
social media platform
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private from my personal life.
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It's good to remain anonymous
because you don't want people
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trying to track you.
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The very first day I
met Ali, it was 2019.
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He was doing Skyrim videos.
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Skyrim is a medieval
role-playing game.
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Stuck here. Stuck.
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Ali was playing characters
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he used to interact
with in the game.
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I see there's potential in Ali.
There's lots of talent in there.
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So, I just decided to message
him and tell him like,
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"Hey, let me help you
out. I can help you grow."
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So I became his
social media manager.
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I would help him out
with things like Discord,
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Twitch, TikTok,
Instagram, YouTube,
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and all kinds of
other platforms.
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Ali wants to grow his
brand so he gets help.
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Content creators
often have a person
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or a team of people who
help manage their content
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and decide when and
where to post it.
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We would talk to each
other on a daily basis
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00:16:25,944 --> 00:16:28,154
and we actually became
really close friends.
294
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,287
Ana played a role in
some of these videos
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00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:37,539
that Ali posted on TikTok.
296
00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,332
Sometimes Ana's in the video,
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00:16:39,457 --> 00:16:41,292
sometimes she's
filming the videos...
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and fans like to see them.
299
00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:53,346
They like to see Ana
in the video as well.
300
00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:59,185
Ana was in pretty
much any Skyrim video
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where there was a hand.
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00:17:01,021 --> 00:17:02,781
Like the hand that
follows Ali in the videos,
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00:17:02,897 --> 00:17:04,232
Ana was the hand.
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00:17:10,822 --> 00:17:12,657
A lot of times I would call her,
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00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:14,409
she would tell me
that she had to go
306
00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:17,412
because she had to film
a short skit for Ali
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00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:18,788
so they could post it online.
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00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:21,875
On TikTok, as a creator,
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your only goal is to
get what you wanna make
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in front of as many
people as possible.
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The more people see what you do,
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the more people follow you.
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It's like the views
compound on each other.
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00:17:34,596 --> 00:17:37,265
Everyone has a
chance at virality.
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All it takes is one video.
316
00:17:46,941 --> 00:17:48,485
So that's what
happens for Ali.
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00:17:49,861 --> 00:17:54,032
He's making TikTok's about
the video game Skyrim
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and one of them takes off.
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I was on online one
day and I saw this...
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00:18:10,131 --> 00:18:12,717
video that was reposted
by some of my friends.
321
00:18:17,972 --> 00:18:21,267
And I realized that it
was Ali on the video.
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00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:28,775
People really love it.
323
00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:31,027
He even got shout outs
from Jenna Marbles
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00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:32,987
and some other folks
who are high up
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00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:34,989
in the social media world.
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00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:37,117
Jenna Marbles is a
longtime YouTuber
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00:18:37,242 --> 00:18:39,744
and an established
talent on social media.
328
00:18:41,204 --> 00:18:43,039
That's the part that kills me.
329
00:18:43,164 --> 00:18:46,668
So for Ali to be getting
attention from her is huge.
330
00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:48,545
It makes me laugh so hard.
331
00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:50,064
This guy has a whole
YouTube channel.
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00:18:50,088 --> 00:18:52,007
- Is that the name of it?
- JinnKid, yes.
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00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:56,219
Ali just kept posting
more and more and more.
334
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:57,637
Each video gains more views,
335
00:18:57,762 --> 00:18:59,681
more followers from
that, more likes.
336
00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:01,349
He made little skits
outside of Skyrim
337
00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,977
and he gained a lot of
popularity from that too.
338
00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:06,021
Yo, am I my bad too?
339
00:19:06,146 --> 00:19:07,564
The worst.
340
00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:08,857
You right. You right.
341
00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:10,567
Ese...
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00:19:10,692 --> 00:19:12,527
Shut the fuck up. Okay?
343
00:19:13,445 --> 00:19:15,530
To come in my house
to tell us what we do,
344
00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,115
what to think, what to feel.
345
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,993
Ali's favorite movie
was definitely Scarface.
346
00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:24,873
He was obsessed
with Tony Montana.
347
00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:27,083
He really loved
impersonating that character.
348
00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:31,004
He liked how dramatic
Tony Montana is
349
00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:32,881
and the way that he
portrays himself.
350
00:19:33,006 --> 00:19:35,300
So say goodnight to the bad guy.
351
00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:37,594
So say goodnight to the bad guy.
352
00:19:38,386 --> 00:19:40,680
All right, Joni,
take one, marker.
353
00:19:41,222 --> 00:19:42,682
I'm Dr. Joni Johnston,
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00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:44,207
a clinical and
forensic psychologist
355
00:19:44,309 --> 00:19:45,769
and private investigator.
356
00:19:45,894 --> 00:19:47,687
It seems like Ali
especially likes
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00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,564
these kind of
violent characters.
358
00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:51,566
I got the money, I
gotta cash up it to you.
359
00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:53,443
- You'll cash up...
- I gotta cash up it.
360
00:19:53,568 --> 00:19:55,288
What the fuck you
think... Get the fuck off!
361
00:19:55,737 --> 00:19:57,405
It's like they're so exaggerated
362
00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,908
and he's throwing these
kind of temper tantrums
363
00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:01,868
over these very minor things.
364
00:20:01,993 --> 00:20:03,536
Oh, it's my brother.
365
00:20:03,661 --> 00:20:05,141
How's it going, bro?
Nice to meet you.
366
00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:07,457
If you put one finger on her,
367
00:20:07,582 --> 00:20:09,250
I'm gonna come to your house.
368
00:20:09,376 --> 00:20:12,045
I know your whole family.
I know your neighbors.
369
00:20:12,170 --> 00:20:14,214
I know your
neighbor's neighbors.
370
00:20:14,339 --> 00:20:16,216
And, you know, it's
funny, it's humorous.
371
00:20:16,341 --> 00:20:17,943
I'm sure people look
at that and kinda go,
372
00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:19,886
how ridiculous at the time.
373
00:20:20,011 --> 00:20:22,972
Of course, now looking back
it has a different meaning
374
00:20:23,098 --> 00:20:25,141
because we know the
outcome of this story.
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00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:27,477
Do you see that
woman over there?
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00:20:30,355 --> 00:20:31,564
Oh, yeah.
377
00:20:32,482 --> 00:20:33,775
Beautiful, isn't she?
378
00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:38,071
It was kind of fast.
379
00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:40,073
I remember coming across a video
380
00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:42,784
that had probably
2.4 million views
381
00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:45,412
and I was like, "Oh
my God, this is Ana."
382
00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:50,250
So Ali is on this crazy ascent
383
00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:52,794
on social media and
his life is changing.
384
00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:56,047
And that was the time
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00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:59,426
where Ana slowly started
386
00:20:59,551 --> 00:21:01,636
to disappear from
people's lives.
387
00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:15,650
My name is Rain and I'm
an online friend to Ali.
388
00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:18,153
The first time that I saw Ali
389
00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:19,612
was back in 2019.
390
00:21:19,738 --> 00:21:21,364
There was something
about his eyes.
391
00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:23,700
I could tell that he had
some type of story to tell.
392
00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:25,160
It was like a connection.
393
00:21:26,244 --> 00:21:30,081
We have a group chat together
and we talk nearly every day.
394
00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:37,714
We would talk about his
streams and his videos
395
00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,717
and I helped him get
verified on Instagram.
396
00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:45,430
Getting verified on
Instagram means simply,
397
00:21:45,555 --> 00:21:47,098
you are who you say you are.
398
00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:49,476
Tends to be a sign of notoriety
399
00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:52,812
because it implies that someone
would be impersonating you.
400
00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:55,690
Oh, congratulations.
401
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,501
When Ali got verified
on Instagram,
402
00:21:57,525 --> 00:21:59,944
that was literally one of
the best days for him ever.
403
00:22:02,739 --> 00:22:04,240
For social media influencers,
404
00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,451
there are these
objective measures
405
00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:09,037
of how popular you are.
406
00:22:09,162 --> 00:22:11,414
You know, you get recognition,
you get certain markers,
407
00:22:11,539 --> 00:22:12,874
you get blue checks,
408
00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:14,751
and that can be
very, very seductive.
409
00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:16,336
Who they think I are?
410
00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:21,007
Once you're on this platform
411
00:22:21,132 --> 00:22:24,052
and you're seeing
your followers grow
412
00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:25,887
and you're seeing
there's more comments,
413
00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:29,140
that's all triggering a
positive, like, "ding."
414
00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,685
Oh, another follower, another
follower, another follower.
415
00:22:31,810 --> 00:22:35,730
It sparks this
obsession at times
416
00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,565
where you don't wanna lose that
417
00:22:37,691 --> 00:22:39,943
so you have to keep going
or you'll lose followers.
418
00:22:43,988 --> 00:22:45,615
He went from 700,000 followers
419
00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:48,785
to around 2 million followers,
which is pretty amazing.
420
00:22:50,161 --> 00:22:52,330
That's a huge increase in people
421
00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:53,665
looking at his content.
422
00:22:53,790 --> 00:22:55,834
That can include companies
423
00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:58,211
who might hire him for
brand partnerships.
424
00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:03,174
Hey Jinn, where'd you get this?
425
00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,719
- I wanna get me one.
- Yeah, but that's my new
426
00:23:05,844 --> 00:23:07,846
Manscaped Lawn Mower
4.0, all right?
427
00:23:07,971 --> 00:23:09,514
What are you
talking? Lawn Mower.
428
00:23:09,639 --> 00:23:12,892
Brands want more exposure
on these social platforms.
429
00:23:13,018 --> 00:23:16,104
When a creator is getting
a lot of attention,
430
00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:18,440
a company might see
that as an opportunity
431
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:21,651
to get their product
in front of more users
432
00:23:21,776 --> 00:23:23,028
on that platform.
433
00:23:25,572 --> 00:23:27,949
You actually can make
money from social media.
434
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,244
Lots of influencers,
they are millionaires.
435
00:23:31,369 --> 00:23:33,705
That's why a lot of
people are going towards
436
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:35,832
content creation
in this generation.
437
00:23:40,545 --> 00:23:44,674
But when you get that
little taste of fame,
438
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,510
it alters your...
439
00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:49,471
viewpoint of reality.
440
00:23:50,221 --> 00:23:51,681
Me, I want what's coming to me.
441
00:23:51,806 --> 00:23:53,558
What's coming to you, Tony?
442
00:23:55,977 --> 00:23:57,395
The world, Chico.
443
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,105
And everything in it.
444
00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,829
Through Ali, Ana got a lot
of her followers as well.
445
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,041
She liked to post.
446
00:24:20,919 --> 00:24:23,505
Oh, my God, I wish
I looked like that.
447
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:26,174
That's a picture of yourself
from like two days ago.
448
00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:27,842
Yeah, back when I was pretty.
449
00:24:28,677 --> 00:24:30,929
But it wasn't
something she was doing
450
00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:33,973
for followers or for the money.
451
00:24:34,099 --> 00:24:36,601
That mattered more
to Ali than Ana.
452
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:43,566
Ana growing up was very
insecure about herself.
453
00:24:43,692 --> 00:24:45,777
She was a nerdy girl,
454
00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:48,321
skinny who played video games.
455
00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:52,158
She definitely did change.
456
00:24:52,283 --> 00:24:55,161
She went from, like,
Philippines to America.
457
00:24:57,914 --> 00:24:59,374
Started dressing differently.
458
00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:01,876
She started going to
the gym and working out.
459
00:25:07,298 --> 00:25:09,634
She just loved looking nice
460
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,219
and her family looking the same.
461
00:25:11,886 --> 00:25:13,722
She was an amazing mother.
462
00:25:13,847 --> 00:25:16,391
She adored her daughter more
than anything in the world.
463
00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:20,061
She loved dressing her
up in cute little outfits
464
00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:22,731
that kinda matched hers
and they would go around
465
00:25:22,856 --> 00:25:24,733
and take pictures everywhere.
466
00:25:24,858 --> 00:25:28,737
♪ Now don't come around
like it ain't shit ♪
467
00:25:28,862 --> 00:25:32,157
♪ I gave you my time
but you played with it ♪
468
00:25:32,282 --> 00:25:34,951
They would make little
cute TikTok's together.
469
00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:38,204
♪ Roll up with a baddie
in a Rolls Royce ♪
470
00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:39,831
♪ Headed to the top ♪
471
00:25:39,956 --> 00:25:41,958
I was living in San Diego
472
00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:43,877
and Ana was in Virginia.
473
00:25:45,253 --> 00:25:47,047
It was COVID during the time
474
00:25:47,172 --> 00:25:49,007
and we were bored
out of our minds.
475
00:25:49,132 --> 00:25:50,884
So we were either
making TikTok's
476
00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:53,178
or we are playing
video games online.
477
00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:57,432
Ana did say that she
was feeling alone
478
00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:58,557
in Virginia.
479
00:25:59,726 --> 00:26:01,436
She was just raising Amira
480
00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:04,939
and her life revolved
around Ali and his family.
481
00:26:05,065 --> 00:26:08,318
She told me she felt like
she had nobody else there
482
00:26:08,443 --> 00:26:09,903
that was there for her.
483
00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:14,657
I don't think he really
allowed her to have friends.
484
00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:18,787
I remember spending time
together over the phone.
485
00:26:18,912 --> 00:26:22,290
He started to get
kind of jealous.
486
00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:27,087
They really did
live in Ali's world.
487
00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:30,090
They're in the United States.
Her family is overseas.
488
00:26:30,632 --> 00:26:32,258
He really is in control
489
00:26:32,384 --> 00:26:35,470
of who she hangs
around, what they do.
490
00:26:37,389 --> 00:26:40,058
And what people didn't know was
491
00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:42,268
she was actually
screaming for help.
492
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:48,817
I would call Ana
from time to time
493
00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:51,695
and I kept saying, "You
should really come visit me."
494
00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:55,156
And eventually she
said, "I spoke with Ali,
495
00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:58,034
he's going to let me come
visit you in San Diego."
496
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:06,626
Ana went to visit San Diego
where a lot of her friends were
497
00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,670
and she just loved it.
498
00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:12,465
The lifestyle with the
clubs and the high life.
499
00:27:14,843 --> 00:27:17,679
And at the end of
her trip she told me,
500
00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:20,056
I'd really love to move
here and be closer to you
501
00:27:20,181 --> 00:27:22,225
and to her other
friends from Okinawa.
502
00:27:24,227 --> 00:27:25,854
So she goes back to Virginia
503
00:27:25,979 --> 00:27:29,607
and she is trying to convince
Ali to move to San Diego.
504
00:27:30,358 --> 00:27:32,652
She said, "I've been
in Virginia for you.
505
00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:34,571
We've been doing
your TikTok's here,
506
00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:35,947
raising our daughter.
507
00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:37,866
I wanna do San Diego for me."
508
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,869
For Ali, it was a win-win.
509
00:27:40,994 --> 00:27:43,455
Moving to San Diego
would help his career
510
00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:46,124
working with
influencers based in LA
511
00:27:46,249 --> 00:27:47,751
and also would make
his wife happy.
512
00:27:48,251 --> 00:27:49,878
It was 100% exciting.
513
00:27:50,003 --> 00:27:51,605
'Cause, you know, his
dream of becoming an actor
514
00:27:51,629 --> 00:27:54,466
is even closer than
he was ever before.
515
00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,594
♪ Something about today ♪
516
00:27:59,054 --> 00:28:00,472
♪ That changed me ♪
517
00:28:00,597 --> 00:28:03,558
Ultimately, they moved
in downtown San Diego
518
00:28:03,683 --> 00:28:05,226
at the Spire.
519
00:28:05,352 --> 00:28:06,853
They're up on the 35th floor.
520
00:28:06,978 --> 00:28:09,564
♪ Something about
the way today... ♪
521
00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:13,443
It overlooks downtown,
the beach and the sunset.
522
00:28:14,444 --> 00:28:16,863
San Diego has a good
nightlife, the Gaslamp.
523
00:28:16,988 --> 00:28:19,074
It's a fun place,
especially if you're young.
524
00:28:20,325 --> 00:28:22,202
It all seems so perfect.
525
00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:26,623
♪ Something about
today that changed me ♪
526
00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:34,756
So the thing about
social media is of course
527
00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:36,966
you're trying to display
the elements of your life
528
00:28:37,092 --> 00:28:38,802
that you want people to see.
529
00:28:38,927 --> 00:28:40,178
Here's my best dance movie.
530
00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:42,472
Here's my wonderful vacation.
531
00:28:42,597 --> 00:28:44,599
Here's a beautiful picture
of me and my partner.
532
00:28:46,017 --> 00:28:47,310
Because we're all putting
533
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:48,704
our best foot forward
on social media.
534
00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:50,188
Anything that you're looking at
535
00:28:50,313 --> 00:28:52,065
as a consumer of social media
536
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,942
is simply not telling
the whole truth.
537
00:28:56,444 --> 00:28:58,863
Many social media
influencers feel a need
538
00:28:58,988 --> 00:29:02,659
to let their followers
539
00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:04,285
into their personal life,
540
00:29:04,411 --> 00:29:07,539
and I think that's a
catch-22 in some respects.
541
00:29:07,664 --> 00:29:10,333
It creates, I think, this image
542
00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:12,627
that they now feel
the need to uphold.
543
00:29:15,046 --> 00:29:18,758
There's this TikTok
of Ali and Ana dancing
544
00:29:18,883 --> 00:29:20,760
and there's, like,
a cutesy moment
545
00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:22,321
where she pulls back
the shower curtain
546
00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:23,596
and he is in the shower.
547
00:29:24,556 --> 00:29:27,350
And they're just having
so much fun as a couple.
548
00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:29,436
And the hashtag was
549
00:29:29,561 --> 00:29:31,146
"when your relationship
is drama free."
550
00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,736
I don't know if they
just posted that video
551
00:29:37,861 --> 00:29:40,030
as a TikTok just for the views.
552
00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:42,866
In the back of my mind I know
they had their problems too,
553
00:29:42,991 --> 00:29:44,284
but every relationship does.
554
00:29:44,409 --> 00:29:46,578
They're perfect.
That's what you see.
555
00:29:46,703 --> 00:29:49,122
I think those are the moments
that she really held onto.
556
00:29:49,247 --> 00:29:50,447
So she would post that content
557
00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:52,250
and show this side of them
558
00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:53,793
that she wanted
the world to see.
559
00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:55,420
She wanted it to be good,
560
00:29:55,545 --> 00:29:58,673
but not everything
online is real.
561
00:30:08,767 --> 00:30:10,643
Right after they
moved to San Diego,
562
00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:13,521
Ali goes to LA and
does this comedy show.
563
00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:15,565
Hello, everybody. It's
my first time on stage.
564
00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:17,084
You can see that
he is really trying
565
00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:19,319
to make things happen
for his career.
566
00:30:19,444 --> 00:30:21,547
He's chasing these dreams that
he's always wanted to achieve.
567
00:30:21,571 --> 00:30:23,615
You wanna play rough? Okay.
568
00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:25,784
Say hello to my little friend.
569
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:28,620
Hey!
570
00:30:30,038 --> 00:30:33,375
Ali felt that this was his
moment to shine and get fame.
571
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,126
He wanted to be a movie star.
572
00:30:43,176 --> 00:30:44,511
Look at that.
573
00:30:44,636 --> 00:30:46,596
Ali is becoming
very successful.
574
00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:48,431
It got to the point
that we all started
575
00:30:48,556 --> 00:30:50,308
counting his views for him.
576
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,102
He just told us how happy he was
577
00:30:52,227 --> 00:30:53,267
and we were happy for him.
578
00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:55,355
JinnKid becomes almost
579
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,566
like a part of him in the
sense that he really saw that
580
00:30:58,692 --> 00:31:01,653
this brand that he had
could reach great success.
581
00:31:01,778 --> 00:31:03,488
Yo, y'all gotta see his 6ix9ine.
582
00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:05,424
This motherfucker's 6ix9ine
is spot the fuck on.
583
00:31:05,448 --> 00:31:07,575
Yo, go ahead bro.
I'm-a set you up.
584
00:31:07,701 --> 00:31:10,620
Y'all dirty motherfuckers
can't fucking touch me.
585
00:31:10,745 --> 00:31:12,455
You feel me? All of y'all.
586
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:14,040
Yo.
587
00:31:14,165 --> 00:31:16,042
Yo, what other impressions
do you do, bro?
588
00:31:16,167 --> 00:31:18,086
Oh, I do Scarface.
589
00:31:18,211 --> 00:31:20,255
"I told you, man.
No fucking kids!"
590
00:31:20,964 --> 00:31:22,424
What you think I am, huh?
591
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:24,592
What you think I'm
a worm like you?
592
00:31:24,718 --> 00:31:27,804
I told you, man. I told
you. No fucking kidding!
593
00:31:27,929 --> 00:31:31,349
That's just spot the fuck
on. Spot the fuck on, man.
594
00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:33,643
It seemed like he
was really fulfilled
595
00:31:33,768 --> 00:31:35,687
by the chance for fame.
596
00:31:35,812 --> 00:31:37,772
Well, you know,
I'm following you.
597
00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:39,667
Yo, what's your tag? I want
everybody to follow you.
598
00:31:39,691 --> 00:31:40,984
JinnKid.
599
00:31:41,109 --> 00:31:42,527
And the way social media
600
00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:44,404
sort of levels
the playing field,
601
00:31:44,529 --> 00:31:46,614
anyone can have a
little bit of fame.
602
00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:51,411
He embodies the identity
of "I am TikTok famous."
603
00:31:51,536 --> 00:31:54,164
That's who I am. And,
like, that's my life now.
604
00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:55,665
I'm a TikTok celebrity.
605
00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:57,500
- Bro, give me the 6ix9ine.
- 6ix9ine?
606
00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:59,169
Yo, word to my mother,
607
00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:01,188
I'll smack the teeth out
of all y'all, you feel me?
608
00:32:01,212 --> 00:32:03,715
Y'all the internet gangsters?
609
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,010
Being famous is a fantasy
that a lot of people have.
610
00:32:08,053 --> 00:32:10,722
You need that recognition.
You need that fame.
611
00:32:10,847 --> 00:32:12,223
And I think for certain people,
612
00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:13,725
and I would include Ali in this,
613
00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:15,727
it becomes almost
like an addiction.
614
00:32:15,852 --> 00:32:17,562
I follow this dude,
man. It's crazy.
615
00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:21,566
Ali is somebody
who took this fame
616
00:32:21,691 --> 00:32:24,736
and really let it
go to his head.
617
00:32:24,861 --> 00:32:27,405
Who put this thing
together? Me.
618
00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:30,575
Who do I trust?
Me. That's who!
619
00:32:36,498 --> 00:32:38,917
When they first
moved to San Diego,
620
00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:40,877
it was good for a
couple months...
621
00:32:43,004 --> 00:32:46,675
and then things were starting
to go really downhill.
622
00:32:47,884 --> 00:32:50,762
They would hang out with only
who he wanted to hang out with.
623
00:32:50,887 --> 00:32:53,139
If he didn't want Ana to
come out with a girl's night,
624
00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:54,432
she wasn't going.
625
00:32:54,557 --> 00:32:55,975
He kinda just controlled
626
00:32:56,101 --> 00:32:57,769
how she spent her
time in San Diego.
627
00:32:57,894 --> 00:33:00,772
I started to think that
they actually have problems
628
00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:02,774
or there's something going on.
629
00:33:06,236 --> 00:33:08,363
You're now tuning live.
630
00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:11,533
Ali does tend to rub some
people the wrong way.
631
00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,160
He loves to talk
about himself a lot.
632
00:33:14,285 --> 00:33:16,204
I don't even wanna
be like fucking,
633
00:33:16,329 --> 00:33:18,707
what do you call it,
Leonardo DiCaprio.
634
00:33:18,832 --> 00:33:20,392
I'm not trying to be
the next Al Pacino.
635
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:21,626
I probably could.
636
00:33:21,751 --> 00:33:23,336
Ali felt that he was better
637
00:33:23,461 --> 00:33:25,046
than other people,
638
00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:27,882
and I think social media
has a lot to do with that.
639
00:33:30,927 --> 00:33:33,847
Ali, as he becomes successful,
640
00:33:33,972 --> 00:33:37,017
he began to almost
talk about himself
641
00:33:37,142 --> 00:33:39,269
like he was this larger
than life person.
642
00:33:39,394 --> 00:33:42,480
Like he was this person who
was so important, so famous.
643
00:33:42,605 --> 00:33:45,275
College is bullshit. I'm
a college dropout, bitch.
644
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,902
And I make more money than
fucking half the people I see.
645
00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:50,780
Ali would walk into
a room sometimes
646
00:33:50,905 --> 00:33:52,532
and be like, "Don't
you know who I am?
647
00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:54,325
I'm JinnKid. I could
do whatever I want."
648
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:58,997
So that persona didn't leave
once he stopped filming.
649
00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:03,126
Ali becomes increasingly
invested in his brand
650
00:34:03,251 --> 00:34:06,588
and it seems like almost the
boundaries between his brand
651
00:34:06,713 --> 00:34:09,883
and his image and
who he is as a person
652
00:34:10,008 --> 00:34:11,926
becomes very confusing
and blurred for him.
653
00:34:12,052 --> 00:34:16,014
I'm a fucking God! I'm
a sexy motherfucker!
654
00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:18,141
I'm a fucking
internet celebrity!
655
00:34:19,059 --> 00:34:22,771
If you're not able to
separate that online persona
656
00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:25,106
to who you truly are
in the real world,
657
00:34:25,231 --> 00:34:27,275
it could take a huge
toll on you mentally
658
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,487
and affect real relationships
in your real life.
659
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,620
Ali and Ana,
660
00:34:38,745 --> 00:34:40,288
they're partying a
lot, both of them,
661
00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:42,457
and that's when things start
to kind of hit the fan.
662
00:34:46,336 --> 00:34:50,131
I had found out that
he was abusing cocaine.
663
00:34:50,882 --> 00:34:53,927
When I say this man
was on a coke binge,
664
00:34:54,052 --> 00:34:57,806
I'm saying abnormal
amounts of cocaine.
665
00:34:58,807 --> 00:35:00,785
Ali really became crazy
with this whole thing.
666
00:35:00,809 --> 00:35:02,143
He'd have a bag of it,
667
00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:05,188
like a big bag of
cocaine in his pocket,
668
00:35:05,313 --> 00:35:07,667
and he would just pull it out
in the middle of a restaurant,
669
00:35:07,691 --> 00:35:08,971
in the middle of
a movie theater,
670
00:35:09,067 --> 00:35:10,347
pretty much anywhere
we would go.
671
00:35:11,403 --> 00:35:13,446
He would even do it
on his live streams
672
00:35:13,571 --> 00:35:15,073
right in front of his audience.
673
00:35:21,246 --> 00:35:23,206
I can hear my friend in
the background going,
674
00:35:23,331 --> 00:35:26,001
"Babe," like, "what
are you doing?"
675
00:35:26,626 --> 00:35:28,795
At first, Ana was okay with it
676
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,588
because when they've
moved to San Diego,
677
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:32,799
Ana's goal was
678
00:35:32,924 --> 00:35:35,343
to make everything
comfortable for him.
679
00:35:35,468 --> 00:35:38,263
She was just allowing
him to do what he wanted.
680
00:35:38,388 --> 00:35:39,468
And he is like, "Oh, this?"
681
00:35:42,392 --> 00:35:43,685
What, this? This nothing.
682
00:35:44,561 --> 00:35:47,188
This... asthma medicine.
How'd you like that?
683
00:35:47,313 --> 00:35:48,815
That's not fake.
684
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:50,859
That's him snorting
cocaine on live feed.
685
00:35:50,984 --> 00:35:52,861
And you could see
how many viewers
686
00:35:52,986 --> 00:35:55,989
are watching that
with laugh reactions.
687
00:35:57,032 --> 00:36:00,493
As the marriage
begins to deteriorate,
688
00:36:00,618 --> 00:36:02,203
we really do begin seeing
689
00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:05,999
that this control that
he has tried to exhibit,
690
00:36:06,124 --> 00:36:08,460
not just with Ana,
but with himself,
691
00:36:08,585 --> 00:36:12,213
is really starting to loosen
and he's starting to unravel.
692
00:36:13,381 --> 00:36:16,051
I have never heard
of Ana using cocaine
693
00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:18,053
or doing it with her friends.
694
00:36:18,178 --> 00:36:21,264
But I had always
heard him doing it
695
00:36:21,389 --> 00:36:22,682
and I think he was jealous
696
00:36:22,807 --> 00:36:25,560
that she had this
life with friends.
697
00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:26,811
I can't go out.
698
00:36:26,936 --> 00:36:29,314
I'm sick.
699
00:36:33,818 --> 00:36:35,236
Ali started to see that
700
00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:39,115
Ana was becoming
happy and blooming
701
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,910
and he was not
about to have that
702
00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:45,663
because for years he had
his wife on the sidelines
703
00:36:45,789 --> 00:36:47,207
and that's how he wanted her.
704
00:36:47,332 --> 00:36:49,793
And this is kinda
when the script flips.
705
00:36:55,674 --> 00:36:57,759
Ann is the one in her element.
706
00:36:57,884 --> 00:36:59,219
She has all her people there,
707
00:36:59,344 --> 00:37:02,639
but Ali isn't liked
as much as Ana
708
00:37:02,764 --> 00:37:04,182
by these friends.
709
00:37:06,184 --> 00:37:10,605
Behind the scenes you
see Ali's not included
710
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:12,941
or he's not a part of the photo
711
00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:15,360
that's getting all the
likes and the attention.
712
00:37:16,778 --> 00:37:21,032
Ali was kind of programmed
to think a certain way.
713
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:25,245
I believe that when you come
from a strict kind of culture,
714
00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:27,539
there's certain
expectations of you
715
00:37:27,664 --> 00:37:29,040
that come from your family.
716
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:32,836
Ali has a very rigid idea
717
00:37:32,961 --> 00:37:34,355
of how their
relationship should be.
718
00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:36,006
I don't think in any
respect he thinks
719
00:37:36,131 --> 00:37:37,757
is an equal relationship.
720
00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,426
It's about him.
721
00:37:39,551 --> 00:37:43,346
All I have in this world
is my balls and my word.
722
00:37:43,471 --> 00:37:45,056
And I don't break
'em for no one.
723
00:37:45,181 --> 00:37:46,182
You got that?
724
00:37:49,978 --> 00:37:53,273
One day, Ana and
I went to the gym.
725
00:37:53,398 --> 00:37:56,943
After that, we went back to
Ana's apartment to grab Amira
726
00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:58,778
because we're gonna
go do something else.
727
00:38:00,363 --> 00:38:03,742
Ali was very, very
angry with Ana
728
00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:06,828
and pulled Ana to the bedroom
729
00:38:06,953 --> 00:38:10,165
and the next thing I know,
he's throwing things at her.
730
00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:13,960
Ana runs out of the
room, we grab Amira
731
00:38:14,085 --> 00:38:16,171
and we just storm off
out of the apartment.
732
00:38:16,838 --> 00:38:18,798
Ali was non-stop
texting her like,
733
00:38:18,923 --> 00:38:20,675
"Come back, bring
my daughter back.
734
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,927
I'm gonna take all the
money out of the account."
735
00:38:23,845 --> 00:38:25,305
I asked her, you know,
736
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:27,432
"Does he treat you
like this all the time?
737
00:38:27,557 --> 00:38:29,184
Has this happened before?"
738
00:38:29,309 --> 00:38:31,287
And she's like, "No, no,
babe, don't worry about it.
739
00:38:31,311 --> 00:38:33,021
Don't worry about it.
I'm fine. It's okay.
740
00:38:33,146 --> 00:38:35,357
We're just gonna talk
later. He's just mad."
741
00:38:37,275 --> 00:38:40,195
That was our first glimpse
of how crazy Ali could get.
742
00:38:46,201 --> 00:38:49,412
He didn't want her having
a life outside of him.
743
00:38:49,537 --> 00:38:52,791
He wanted her to hold
the camera for him
744
00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:54,668
so he can make his skits.
745
00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:57,420
He wants Ana to basically
746
00:38:57,545 --> 00:38:59,964
have Ali be the
center of her world.
747
00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,635
And when that's not
the case, he loses it.
748
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,012
Ana, I'm really starting
to get hurt, man.
749
00:39:06,137 --> 00:39:08,390
I... You didn't even tell me
750
00:39:08,807 --> 00:39:10,225
that you're canceling on me,
751
00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:11,670
and now you can't
answer my phone.
752
00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:12,977
You said something came up.
753
00:39:13,103 --> 00:39:14,729
And now my mind
is just telling me
754
00:39:14,854 --> 00:39:16,934
I'm not important enough
for you to answer the phone.
755
00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:19,859
Ali actually starts
recording with his phone
756
00:39:19,984 --> 00:39:22,987
some of the things that we would
never expect him to record.
757
00:39:38,044 --> 00:39:41,006
He had lost trust in her and
he felt from that moment on
758
00:39:41,131 --> 00:39:42,590
that his wife was
cheating on him
759
00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:45,176
and he became extremely
paranoid about that.
760
00:39:54,227 --> 00:39:56,730
Ali degrades her
and degrades her.
761
00:39:56,855 --> 00:39:58,898
Watching these videos,
762
00:39:59,024 --> 00:40:01,109
I wonder why someone
would record that.
763
00:40:08,575 --> 00:40:11,661
He would berate her for
not having sex with him.
764
00:40:11,786 --> 00:40:13,413
Almost demand it from her.
765
00:40:19,919 --> 00:40:21,880
He was territorial
766
00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:25,425
seeing her as more
of a property.
767
00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:27,886
And I need to keep
this at all costs
768
00:40:28,011 --> 00:40:29,804
and it's solely mine.
769
00:41:01,086 --> 00:41:03,380
I think it made Ali
extremely jealous,
770
00:41:03,505 --> 00:41:05,757
the attention that
Ana would get because
771
00:41:05,882 --> 00:41:07,425
everyone was always
drawn to her.
772
00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:09,010
Everyone always loved her.
773
00:41:10,553 --> 00:41:14,307
It created these explosive
fights between the two of them.
774
00:41:31,866 --> 00:41:34,786
I brought her to America. I
gave her the American dream.
775
00:41:34,911 --> 00:41:36,913
Therefore, she is my property.
776
00:41:37,038 --> 00:41:38,164
That is how he felt.
777
00:41:40,959 --> 00:41:44,295
Growing up in a
Filipino culture,
778
00:41:44,421 --> 00:41:48,425
women are raised to be quiet
779
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:50,510
and do what we're told.
780
00:41:51,302 --> 00:41:53,430
We all have one
dream and one goal,
781
00:41:53,555 --> 00:41:55,390
and it's to get out
782
00:41:55,515 --> 00:41:58,643
and to come to America
to have a better life.
783
00:41:59,894 --> 00:42:02,897
Certain men will think
that we are an item.
784
00:42:03,023 --> 00:42:06,359
We should be grateful because
they gave us that life.
785
00:42:07,318 --> 00:42:09,237
When you get married,
you don't get divorced.
786
00:42:09,362 --> 00:42:12,866
Literally in our country,
it's illegal to get divorced,
787
00:42:12,991 --> 00:42:15,744
so she needed to
stick this one out.
788
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:25,337
Ali felt that Ana was taking
everything away from him,
789
00:42:25,462 --> 00:42:28,757
so he threatened to
get her deported.
790
00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:36,765
If Ana was deported
out of America,
791
00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:38,850
she wouldn't be able
to see her daughter.
792
00:42:39,601 --> 00:42:42,145
Ana just wanted
to keep the peace,
793
00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:43,688
especially for her daughter.
794
00:42:43,813 --> 00:42:45,607
She just loved her so much
795
00:42:45,732 --> 00:42:47,609
and she would literally
do anything for her,
796
00:42:47,734 --> 00:42:49,986
like, endure everything that
Ali was putting her through,
797
00:42:50,111 --> 00:42:53,365
just for her daughter to
be happy and to have a dad.
798
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:02,916
When you listen to
these recordings,
799
00:43:03,041 --> 00:43:05,919
it's hard to imagine that
anybody would want keep a record
800
00:43:06,044 --> 00:43:09,798
because they're so
filled with venom.
801
00:43:15,178 --> 00:43:18,431
Is he trying to build some
sort of case against her?
802
00:43:18,556 --> 00:43:20,558
He's trying to
frame up a narrative
803
00:43:20,684 --> 00:43:24,020
of himself as the victim,
804
00:43:24,145 --> 00:43:27,315
or the kind of suffering
protagonist in their marriage.
805
00:43:27,982 --> 00:43:29,651
But it doesn't read
like that at all.
806
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:40,412
Ana actually calls
Ali's mom for help.
807
00:43:43,623 --> 00:43:46,960
I think that illustrates
the bind sometimes
808
00:43:47,085 --> 00:43:49,337
that domestic
violence victims feel.
809
00:43:49,796 --> 00:43:51,756
They want the abuse to stop.
810
00:43:51,881 --> 00:43:54,175
They want to be safe, and yet,
811
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,387
they also don't want to
get this person in trouble.
812
00:43:57,512 --> 00:43:59,180
They're thinking about
them being in jail.
813
00:43:59,305 --> 00:44:00,950
They're thinking about
what this is going to mean
814
00:44:00,974 --> 00:44:02,576
for their daughter,
they're thinking about,
815
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,020
what is this going to
do to Ali's career?
816
00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:31,504
Ana is trying to
protect her daughter,
817
00:44:31,629 --> 00:44:34,507
because she did witness
those arguments.
818
00:44:34,632 --> 00:44:36,468
She did see her
dad angry at times.
819
00:44:36,593 --> 00:44:40,722
She would hear the screaming,
the fighting, the violence.
820
00:45:01,868 --> 00:45:03,578
At this point, what we're seeing
821
00:45:03,703 --> 00:45:05,997
is this increase in
conflict between them,
822
00:45:06,122 --> 00:45:08,124
which pretty quickly escalates.
823
00:45:08,249 --> 00:45:09,876
By July of 2021,
824
00:45:10,001 --> 00:45:11,961
it's becoming
very, very serious.
825
00:45:12,087 --> 00:45:13,838
Ali will do just about anything
826
00:45:13,963 --> 00:45:15,840
to maintain the control
of that relationship.
827
00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,009
Whether it's threatening Ana,
828
00:45:18,134 --> 00:45:19,678
whether it's
threatening suicide.
829
00:45:41,032 --> 00:45:43,868
I'm just disgusted when I heard
830
00:45:43,993 --> 00:45:47,288
that he had his gun out
around his daughter.
831
00:45:47,414 --> 00:45:48,415
It's shocking.
832
00:45:49,708 --> 00:45:52,919
I think what she was
hoping for was a change...
833
00:45:53,628 --> 00:45:55,588
but I think Ana knew
834
00:45:55,714 --> 00:45:58,717
that it wasn't safe
for her at home.
835
00:46:48,099 --> 00:46:51,061
When the police arrive
at the apartment,
836
00:46:51,186 --> 00:46:53,980
instead of answering the door
right away for the police,
837
00:46:54,105 --> 00:46:56,816
Ali goes in and he
brushes his teeth,
838
00:46:56,941 --> 00:46:58,943
because he's been
drinking alcohol.
839
00:47:04,157 --> 00:47:06,534
And after he gets finished
brushing his teeth,
840
00:47:06,659 --> 00:47:08,703
he comes back out and
he answers the door.
841
00:47:15,627 --> 00:47:17,387
For the San Diego
Police Department,
842
00:47:17,462 --> 00:47:20,757
85% of the police
reports that are written
843
00:47:20,882 --> 00:47:22,967
are for domestic violence.
844
00:47:23,093 --> 00:47:25,637
Cops come inside and they
separate the two of them
845
00:47:25,762 --> 00:47:27,138
to find out what's going on.
846
00:47:27,263 --> 00:47:29,516
One cop will go
in with one half,
847
00:47:29,641 --> 00:47:31,476
another cop will go
in with the other half
848
00:47:31,601 --> 00:47:33,395
and they'll determine,
"Do we have a crime?"
849
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,815
Now Ali is recording
this conversation,
850
00:47:36,940 --> 00:47:38,441
which is highly unusual.
851
00:47:38,566 --> 00:47:39,859
Most people don't record
852
00:47:39,984 --> 00:47:41,695
their conversations
with the cops.
853
00:47:48,076 --> 00:47:50,870
They will conduct some
kind of a risk assessment.
854
00:47:50,995 --> 00:47:52,831
It may be arresting
one of those people.
855
00:47:52,956 --> 00:47:55,166
You know, it just depends
upon the circumstances.
856
00:48:12,183 --> 00:48:15,895
Ali is really good
at telling a story
857
00:48:16,021 --> 00:48:17,731
that's believable to the cops.
858
00:48:17,856 --> 00:48:20,191
He's good at presenting himself
859
00:48:20,316 --> 00:48:24,279
as not being the type of
guy who would be violent.
860
00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:41,212
There's no injuries
or anything like that,
861
00:48:41,338 --> 00:48:45,050
because had there been
any visible injury on Ana
862
00:48:45,175 --> 00:48:46,575
when the police
officers were there,
863
00:48:46,676 --> 00:48:49,012
it would've been
game over for Ali.
864
00:49:09,532 --> 00:49:12,077
And I think it is very
difficult for one parent,
865
00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:14,287
no matter how bad
the situation is,
866
00:49:14,412 --> 00:49:18,375
to think about removing
that kind of dual parenting.
867
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:21,020
Even though, of course, we know
it isn't healthy for that child.
868
00:49:21,044 --> 00:49:23,755
But it can be very difficult
to make the decision to leave.
869
00:49:29,177 --> 00:49:30,553
Let's get this clear.
870
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,015
Ali was holding Ana hostage.
871
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:35,975
She could not get
out of this marriage.
872
00:49:36,101 --> 00:49:38,853
So what is somebody
supposed to do?
873
00:49:44,359 --> 00:49:47,320
On August 17th,
Julia and I planned
874
00:49:47,445 --> 00:49:51,157
a Disney trip for
Ana's birthday.
875
00:49:51,282 --> 00:49:52,575
Mila!
876
00:49:52,701 --> 00:49:55,161
I wanted all of our
kids to be together
877
00:49:55,286 --> 00:49:58,081
and I needed to go
there to check on her.
878
00:49:58,665 --> 00:50:00,333
I followed my heart and...
879
00:50:01,126 --> 00:50:02,377
I'm glad I did.
880
00:50:04,379 --> 00:50:06,840
The whole time Ali
was complaining.
881
00:50:06,965 --> 00:50:09,467
Mostly, he didn't
want to walk around.
882
00:50:09,592 --> 00:50:11,386
He was tired.
883
00:50:11,511 --> 00:50:15,432
And, of course, he
was bringing his drugs
884
00:50:15,557 --> 00:50:18,101
and I was not having it.
885
00:50:18,226 --> 00:50:19,853
And neither was Ana.
886
00:50:19,978 --> 00:50:22,230
We all were practically
ignoring him.
887
00:50:23,398 --> 00:50:26,151
And he eventually
gave in at 11:00 a.m.
888
00:50:26,276 --> 00:50:28,194
and went to the Jeep and slept.
889
00:50:29,946 --> 00:50:32,532
And we all had an amazing time
890
00:50:32,657 --> 00:50:35,493
and we stayed there
'til the fireworks.
891
00:50:35,618 --> 00:50:39,789
It was kind of our dream
to take our kids to Disney.
892
00:50:39,914 --> 00:50:42,917
- Look, it's Mickey.
- Mickey!
893
00:50:43,043 --> 00:50:45,503
Cheers!
894
00:50:45,628 --> 00:50:47,380
Happy birthday!
895
00:50:47,505 --> 00:50:50,508
We went out for
Ana's birthday.
896
00:50:50,633 --> 00:50:53,386
Ali eventually got
himself together
897
00:50:53,511 --> 00:50:56,264
and we all chipped
in for a table...
898
00:50:57,057 --> 00:50:58,683
at a club in San Diego.
899
00:50:59,601 --> 00:51:02,103
She was really upset because
Ali was fighting with her
900
00:51:02,228 --> 00:51:05,398
and making her feel worthless
901
00:51:05,523 --> 00:51:08,234
and like it wasn't her birthday.
902
00:51:08,818 --> 00:51:10,612
What I realized then was that
903
00:51:10,737 --> 00:51:12,655
if he wasn't the
center of attention,
904
00:51:12,781 --> 00:51:13,799
he wasn't going to have it.
905
00:51:22,665 --> 00:51:24,793
Before she took
me to the airport,
906
00:51:24,918 --> 00:51:28,046
we went to our favorite
spot in San Diego, La Jolla.
907
00:51:28,171 --> 00:51:30,507
We took the girls
to see the seals,
908
00:51:30,632 --> 00:51:32,759
let them run around
and eat ice cream.
909
00:51:33,301 --> 00:51:35,053
Look at the seals.
910
00:51:35,178 --> 00:51:37,639
Wow, look at the seals, Mila.
911
00:51:37,764 --> 00:51:38,890
Mom!
912
00:51:39,641 --> 00:51:42,102
We had gotten
into an argument,
913
00:51:42,227 --> 00:51:45,105
because I've been
telling her, you know,
914
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:46,481
"You need to leave him."
915
00:51:47,774 --> 00:51:49,401
She made it seem
916
00:51:49,526 --> 00:51:51,778
like there was nothing going on.
917
00:51:51,903 --> 00:51:54,739
That they were just
going through some phase.
918
00:51:54,864 --> 00:51:57,033
But I knew that wasn't it.
919
00:51:58,284 --> 00:52:00,245
And I remember telling
her at the airport,
920
00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:02,747
"Ana, you can't
keep doing this."
921
00:52:03,581 --> 00:52:05,341
And she's like, "I know.
I'm going to fix it.
922
00:52:05,375 --> 00:52:06,584
I'm going to fix it."
923
00:52:08,628 --> 00:52:12,090
And I said, "Okay." And
she said, "Okay, love you."
924
00:52:12,215 --> 00:52:13,466
And I said, "I love you too."
925
00:52:14,592 --> 00:52:16,594
And that was the last time
I ever heard from her.
926
00:52:26,187 --> 00:52:27,522
Can I take a break?
927
00:52:33,945 --> 00:52:36,197
Things start to get
really ugly at home
928
00:52:36,322 --> 00:52:38,533
and Ali starts to air
them out publicly.
929
00:52:38,658 --> 00:52:41,327
Don't get married, guys.
Don't get fucking married.
930
00:52:41,745 --> 00:52:45,165
Ali would use his
online platform
931
00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:47,459
against Ana at times.
932
00:52:47,584 --> 00:52:50,503
He would go on
live and broadcast
933
00:52:50,628 --> 00:52:52,088
really bad fights.
934
00:52:52,213 --> 00:52:53,882
This fucking bitch.
935
00:52:54,007 --> 00:52:56,110
He was saying, "This is
what a bitch looks like.
936
00:52:56,134 --> 00:52:57,677
This is what a
whore looks like."
937
00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:01,639
And I saw Ana
sitting on the couch,
938
00:53:01,765 --> 00:53:03,933
not showing her face.
939
00:53:04,059 --> 00:53:08,021
For him to do that was very
dangerous in my point of view,
940
00:53:08,146 --> 00:53:10,398
and just overall wrong.
941
00:53:10,523 --> 00:53:14,110
It showed how little he
cared about her wellbeing.
942
00:53:14,235 --> 00:53:15,695
I dedicated my life.
943
00:53:15,820 --> 00:53:17,540
I threw my whole
life away for her.
944
00:53:17,989 --> 00:53:19,491
And now she's
throwing away my life.
945
00:53:20,784 --> 00:53:23,286
Before they have,
seemingly, this perfect life
946
00:53:23,411 --> 00:53:26,289
that they've shaped online.
947
00:53:26,414 --> 00:53:29,250
And now it's a completely
different story.
948
00:53:29,376 --> 00:53:30,835
And he is blaming Ana for this.
949
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,421
I worked so hard to
build my platform and...
950
00:53:35,131 --> 00:53:37,133
turns out the one closest to you
951
00:53:37,258 --> 00:53:38,760
is the one that
tries to destroy it.
952
00:53:39,427 --> 00:53:41,471
That was definitely
hard for me to witness.
953
00:53:41,596 --> 00:53:44,557
He was doing it
to embarrass her.
954
00:53:44,683 --> 00:53:46,403
I don't even know why
I'm telling you, guys.
955
00:53:46,518 --> 00:53:48,061
But I just care
about you guys, man.
956
00:53:48,853 --> 00:53:50,813
I care about you guys. I
care about my brand here.
957
00:53:50,855 --> 00:53:53,358
He wants his fans or
his followers to get
958
00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:56,528
a look into his life or
that he cares about them.
959
00:53:56,653 --> 00:54:00,281
But, you know, really, he
was just embarrassing...
960
00:54:01,241 --> 00:54:02,617
both of them.
961
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:10,250
It was very heartbreaking
962
00:54:10,375 --> 00:54:12,585
and very hard to watch
and very shocking.
963
00:54:12,711 --> 00:54:15,213
The internet can be
such an evil place.
964
00:54:16,423 --> 00:54:18,258
She didn't know what
to do and I didn't know
965
00:54:18,383 --> 00:54:19,718
how I could help her.
966
00:54:21,469 --> 00:54:23,596
And that's when
everything really,
967
00:54:23,722 --> 00:54:25,390
really, really started
going downhill.
968
00:54:36,943 --> 00:54:40,280
Ali knew that a guy named
Ray in their friend circle
969
00:54:40,405 --> 00:54:42,657
liked Ana, was
interested in Ana.
970
00:54:49,372 --> 00:54:51,666
Ana and Ali met Ray together.
971
00:54:51,791 --> 00:54:54,336
I remember Ali coming
back to me and saying,
972
00:54:54,461 --> 00:54:56,296
"Yeah, Ray just
told me I'm so lucky
973
00:54:56,421 --> 00:54:58,590
that I have a beautiful
woman like Ana.
974
00:54:58,715 --> 00:55:00,508
That really bothers me.
Why does he say that?
975
00:55:00,633 --> 00:55:02,427
That just means he wants her."
976
00:55:03,845 --> 00:55:08,641
Ali has had jealousy issues
with Ray from the start,
977
00:55:08,767 --> 00:55:13,355
because Ray came off
like he admired Ana.
978
00:55:15,690 --> 00:55:19,611
And so Ali started
creating this drama
979
00:55:19,736 --> 00:55:21,821
about how he doesn't trust Ray.
980
00:55:21,946 --> 00:55:23,114
You want to fuck with me?
981
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,241
Okay. God, okay.
982
00:55:25,367 --> 00:55:28,161
In actual real life,
983
00:55:28,286 --> 00:55:29,871
he would say
certain things like,
984
00:55:29,996 --> 00:55:32,415
"Would it be fun if I
just picked up this gun
985
00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:33,900
and, like, shot a
bunch of people?"
986
00:55:33,958 --> 00:55:35,598
People were like, "Why
would you say that?
987
00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:37,462
That's actually not funny.
988
00:55:37,587 --> 00:55:38,922
Are you your
character right now?
989
00:55:39,047 --> 00:55:40,340
Or who are you right now?"
990
00:55:40,465 --> 00:55:43,593
He was so high-strung
and so violent
991
00:55:43,718 --> 00:55:46,554
to where nobody thought it
was funny outside of TikTok.
992
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,557
- You need people like me.
- You need people like me.
993
00:55:49,683 --> 00:55:52,185
- So you can point...
- your fucking fingers...
994
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:53,412
and say, "That's the bad guy."
995
00:55:53,436 --> 00:55:54,646
"That's the bad guy."
996
00:55:54,771 --> 00:55:56,690
Say good night to the bad guy.
997
00:56:01,152 --> 00:56:03,530
One morning, Ana calls
me a million times,
998
00:56:03,655 --> 00:56:05,490
texts me a million times.
999
00:56:09,077 --> 00:56:11,305
I'm reading all these texts,
"Louie, you got to come get me."
1000
00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:12,831
You got to come
get me. I need you.
1001
00:56:14,124 --> 00:56:15,208
"He's crazy."
1002
00:56:16,001 --> 00:56:17,627
She calls me and she says,
1003
00:56:17,752 --> 00:56:19,254
"Hey, can I come over?"
1004
00:56:20,922 --> 00:56:22,507
So she comes to my house
1005
00:56:22,632 --> 00:56:25,427
and she has a big
suitcase with her.
1006
00:56:25,552 --> 00:56:28,388
It was Ali's cousin
dropping them off.
1007
00:56:28,513 --> 00:56:32,183
We went to the park and
I looked at her face
1008
00:56:32,308 --> 00:56:35,562
and I noticed the whole left
side of her face was bruised.
1009
00:56:38,982 --> 00:56:41,026
That's finally when
she's starting to tell us
1010
00:56:41,151 --> 00:56:44,446
that this has been an
ongoing thing since Virginia.
1011
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:50,702
Domestic violence does
not happen overnight.
1012
00:56:50,827 --> 00:56:52,203
There's a reason
1013
00:56:52,328 --> 00:56:56,041
why abusers isolate
their victims.
1014
00:56:56,791 --> 00:56:58,471
It's because they can
control the narrative
1015
00:56:58,501 --> 00:57:00,962
of what's going on and what
happens and all those things.
1016
00:57:01,087 --> 00:57:02,547
When you are now in a place
1017
00:57:02,672 --> 00:57:05,383
where your victim is exposed
1018
00:57:05,508 --> 00:57:07,427
to other people and has support,
1019
00:57:07,552 --> 00:57:10,096
you began losing
sometimes the power
1020
00:57:10,221 --> 00:57:11,615
that you've had in
that relationship
1021
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:13,391
to influence that person.
1022
00:57:13,516 --> 00:57:14,893
Everything started coming out
1023
00:57:15,018 --> 00:57:16,811
and she's starting to realize,
1024
00:57:16,936 --> 00:57:19,439
you know, this is a very
toxic, abusive relationship
1025
00:57:19,564 --> 00:57:20,899
and that she needs to get out.
1026
00:57:24,944 --> 00:57:27,530
Ana has this picture of her
with kind of a bruised eye
1027
00:57:27,655 --> 00:57:29,616
and she's threatening Ali,
1028
00:57:29,741 --> 00:57:31,461
saying, you know, "Should
I call the police?
1029
00:57:31,493 --> 00:57:33,370
Should I show your family?
1030
00:57:33,495 --> 00:57:35,288
Should I put it online?"
1031
00:57:36,289 --> 00:57:38,458
And that strikes
a chord with Ali,
1032
00:57:38,583 --> 00:57:41,127
because his online
persona is his baby.
1033
00:57:42,128 --> 00:57:44,673
It's so complicated for
Ana in these situations
1034
00:57:44,798 --> 00:57:46,591
to think, "How do
I get him to stop?"
1035
00:57:46,716 --> 00:57:48,593
How do I get him
to leave me alone?
1036
00:57:48,718 --> 00:57:50,470
And yet I do feel
protective of him
1037
00:57:50,595 --> 00:57:52,435
in terms of I don't want
to get him in trouble.
1038
00:57:52,555 --> 00:57:53,875
"I don't want to
ruin his career."
1039
00:57:53,932 --> 00:57:55,725
And we all look and
kind of go, now,
1040
00:57:55,850 --> 00:57:57,727
"Yes, you should post
this on Facebook.
1041
00:57:57,852 --> 00:57:59,354
Yes, you should
call the police."
1042
00:57:59,479 --> 00:58:01,231
But at that point, I think,
1043
00:58:01,356 --> 00:58:02,691
there is that struggle.
1044
00:58:03,775 --> 00:58:05,694
When you're in
that relationship,
1045
00:58:05,819 --> 00:58:08,405
it's hard to just leave,
especially a marriage.
1046
00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:09,989
You can feel trapped.
1047
00:58:10,115 --> 00:58:12,575
"How am I going to
do this on my own?"
1048
00:58:12,701 --> 00:58:14,577
You feel like no
one understands.
1049
00:58:16,371 --> 00:58:20,125
And that's exactly what I
think Ana was going through.
1050
00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:22,085
She was in...
1051
00:58:22,877 --> 00:58:24,713
a place where she was stuck...
1052
00:58:25,505 --> 00:58:26,745
and didn't know how to get out.
1053
00:58:33,096 --> 00:58:36,516
And then Ali started
cheating on Ana.
1054
00:58:38,852 --> 00:58:41,730
One of the girls that
he fooled around with
1055
00:58:41,855 --> 00:58:44,482
was a girl living at the Spire.
1056
00:58:44,607 --> 00:58:47,318
He met her in the elevator
1057
00:58:47,444 --> 00:58:51,114
and this girl somehow found Ana
1058
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:52,699
and reached out to her.
1059
00:58:52,824 --> 00:58:55,910
She had to tell her that
they slept together.
1060
00:58:56,036 --> 00:58:58,663
Ana was like, "I'm so thankful
that you told me this.
1061
00:58:58,788 --> 00:59:00,206
You know, I'm not even mad.
1062
00:59:00,331 --> 00:59:02,751
I just want to know
this information."
1063
00:59:04,002 --> 00:59:05,712
This girl told Ana
1064
00:59:05,837 --> 00:59:08,965
that he invited her
into their home...
1065
00:59:09,841 --> 00:59:12,052
and he grabbed a
big bag of cocaine
1066
00:59:12,177 --> 00:59:15,138
and laid it on
their coffee table
1067
00:59:15,263 --> 00:59:16,389
and just started...
1068
00:59:17,390 --> 00:59:21,436
doing a bunch of blow
and talking about Ana,
1069
00:59:21,561 --> 00:59:24,439
calling her all these
horrible things.
1070
00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:28,735
And, of course, this girl
is clearly freaking out,
1071
00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:31,446
'cause she's like, "Okay,
this guy is crazy."
1072
00:59:31,571 --> 00:59:33,573
But she was smart
1073
00:59:33,698 --> 00:59:36,409
and knew that she
needed to warn Ana.
1074
00:59:37,202 --> 00:59:38,995
Ana wanted to separate
at that point.
1075
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,705
That was her final straw.
1076
01:00:14,614 --> 01:00:17,492
At that point, she just wanted
people to know the truth.
1077
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,166
So then Ana posted
a video on TikTok.
1078
01:00:26,209 --> 01:00:28,336
♪ When she's sleeping
in the bed we made ♪
1079
01:00:28,461 --> 01:00:30,714
♪ Don't you dare
forget about the way ♪
1080
01:00:30,839 --> 01:00:33,466
♪ You betrayed me ♪
1081
01:00:33,591 --> 01:00:34,759
♪ 'Cause I know that ♪
1082
01:00:34,884 --> 01:00:38,346
♪ You'll never feel sorry ♪
1083
01:00:38,471 --> 01:00:40,390
That was definitely
hitting him where it hurt.
1084
01:00:40,515 --> 01:00:43,852
Like, he cared so much
about his online presence,
1085
01:00:43,977 --> 01:00:46,563
his reputation, his followers.
1086
01:00:46,688 --> 01:00:48,606
She posts this,
knowing full well
1087
01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:50,400
what this is going to do to Ali,
1088
01:00:50,525 --> 01:00:52,152
because he loves
1089
01:00:52,277 --> 01:00:55,030
his online persona
and his following,
1090
01:00:55,155 --> 01:00:58,575
and he's kind of just
spiraling downwards.
1091
01:01:00,660 --> 01:01:02,954
I didn't cheat on you.
You fucking betrayed me.
1092
01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:04,914
And I fucked a
girl in Miami too.
1093
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,624
And I fucked a girl in LA.
1094
01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:08,376
I've been fucking
bitches all day,
1095
01:01:08,501 --> 01:01:10,545
'cause you deprive me of sex,
1096
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:13,173
you paint me a bad guy,
you fucking disrespect me.
1097
01:01:13,298 --> 01:01:14,674
I'm fucking everybody.
1098
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:16,885
I am fucking the
best man you ever met
1099
01:01:17,010 --> 01:01:18,470
and you're the dumbest bitch
1100
01:01:18,595 --> 01:01:20,096
I ever fucking
devoted my life to.
1101
01:01:23,308 --> 01:01:26,770
I think, at that point,
she was so fed up.
1102
01:01:26,895 --> 01:01:28,688
He did all of this to her
1103
01:01:28,813 --> 01:01:30,982
and on top of that,
cheated on her.
1104
01:01:31,107 --> 01:01:33,276
She didn't care
about their image
1105
01:01:33,401 --> 01:01:35,028
as a happy couple anymore.
1106
01:01:35,153 --> 01:01:37,614
It shows that she's strong.
1107
01:01:37,739 --> 01:01:40,492
And I can see in my friend
1108
01:01:40,617 --> 01:01:43,995
that she's on a healing process.
1109
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,538
She's over it.
1110
01:01:51,836 --> 01:01:53,963
As soon as Ana
posted that video,
1111
01:01:54,089 --> 01:01:55,382
Ali was furious.
1112
01:01:55,507 --> 01:01:57,842
He was desperately
blowing up her phone...
1113
01:01:58,968 --> 01:02:01,137
threatening her to
take the TikTok down.
1114
01:02:03,181 --> 01:02:05,183
You block me, you
delete my pictures,
1115
01:02:05,308 --> 01:02:07,102
you fucking post
a video on TikTok,
1116
01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:08,687
saying seven years of abusive...
1117
01:02:08,812 --> 01:02:10,397
Shut the fuck up, you bitch.
1118
01:02:11,064 --> 01:02:13,817
So she did, but a lot of
people saw it before that.
1119
01:02:19,447 --> 01:02:21,074
She packed her bags
1120
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:23,368
and she moved into
my friend's house.
1121
01:02:24,285 --> 01:02:27,706
She was trying to move on from
her relationship with Ali.
1122
01:02:34,587 --> 01:02:36,965
So Ana says...
1123
01:02:46,474 --> 01:02:47,684
And he goes...
1124
01:02:49,436 --> 01:02:50,645
And she says...
1125
01:02:59,487 --> 01:03:00,864
He didn't even deserve that.
1126
01:03:00,989 --> 01:03:03,283
After everything
that he did to her
1127
01:03:03,408 --> 01:03:06,494
and for her to still
love him how she did,
1128
01:03:06,619 --> 01:03:08,496
he didn't deserve that at all.
1129
01:03:11,541 --> 01:03:14,044
As Ali starts realizing
1130
01:03:14,169 --> 01:03:17,088
that he has permanently lost Ana
1131
01:03:17,213 --> 01:03:20,884
and realizing that he is
not going to get her back,
1132
01:03:21,009 --> 01:03:22,552
he begins to change.
1133
01:03:23,178 --> 01:03:24,804
I gave you this
life, all right?
1134
01:03:24,929 --> 01:03:26,723
And the second you
started telling me
1135
01:03:26,848 --> 01:03:28,034
that I don't do
anything for you,
1136
01:03:28,058 --> 01:03:29,684
that you don't need me.
1137
01:03:29,809 --> 01:03:31,644
I'm going to show you
how much you needed me.
1138
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:33,271
I'm going to show you.
1139
01:03:33,396 --> 01:03:34,939
Life's going to show you.
1140
01:03:35,065 --> 01:03:36,945
Life's going to show you
how much you needed me.
1141
01:03:40,528 --> 01:03:41,821
So, at this point,
1142
01:03:41,946 --> 01:03:44,616
Ana is living with my friend,
1143
01:03:44,741 --> 01:03:48,286
and Ali continues to
live at their apartment.
1144
01:03:48,411 --> 01:03:50,205
She was trying to figure out
1145
01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:52,457
how she was going to start
her life in San Diego
1146
01:03:52,582 --> 01:03:53,958
without Ali.
1147
01:03:54,084 --> 01:03:56,169
I did fear for Ana's life.
1148
01:03:56,294 --> 01:03:59,172
I brought up that, "Ali
has a gun, you know.
1149
01:03:59,297 --> 01:04:01,174
Do you know how far
he would take this?"
1150
01:04:01,299 --> 01:04:02,842
And she would
always reassure me.
1151
01:04:02,967 --> 01:04:04,969
She said, "Babe, he
would never do that."
1152
01:04:07,597 --> 01:04:08,890
But Ana...
1153
01:04:10,934 --> 01:04:12,811
didn't think the
worst like we did.
1154
01:04:14,354 --> 01:04:17,482
There's sometimes this
lack of realization
1155
01:04:17,607 --> 01:04:20,819
that maybe the person would
never have hurt you before,
1156
01:04:20,944 --> 01:04:23,029
you haven't left them before.
1157
01:04:23,154 --> 01:04:26,199
And so we can't count
on past behavior
1158
01:04:26,324 --> 01:04:28,660
being the same as it is now.
1159
01:04:32,372 --> 01:04:34,874
Ali, out of nowhere,
reaches out to her and says,
1160
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,293
"I'm going to go
stay at a hotel,
1161
01:04:37,419 --> 01:04:39,963
and why don't you just move
back into the apartment?"
1162
01:04:40,088 --> 01:04:42,799
And Ana was like, "Oh,
this is so exciting."
1163
01:04:42,924 --> 01:04:44,324
This would solve
all of my problems.
1164
01:04:44,426 --> 01:04:46,219
I can move back
into the apartment.
1165
01:04:46,344 --> 01:04:47,762
I don't have to
worry about looking
1166
01:04:47,887 --> 01:04:49,139
"for another place to live."
1167
01:04:50,015 --> 01:04:52,392
And I think that him
offering her the apartment
1168
01:04:52,517 --> 01:04:55,812
was all just a plan
to get her in a room,
1169
01:04:55,937 --> 01:04:57,313
so he can do what he did.
1170
01:05:04,779 --> 01:05:06,156
On October 21st,
1171
01:05:06,281 --> 01:05:08,825
the day starts out
with Ana heading out
1172
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:10,285
to take her daughter to school.
1173
01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,829
Ali has, unbeknownst to her,
1174
01:05:12,954 --> 01:05:15,665
made a copy of
the electronic key
1175
01:05:15,790 --> 01:05:17,250
to get into her apartment.
1176
01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:20,211
Ali uses the secret key
1177
01:05:20,337 --> 01:05:22,088
and he enters the apartment...
1178
01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:26,676
and he vandalizes it.
1179
01:05:29,637 --> 01:05:33,099
And then he puts an app
on his daughter's iPad,
1180
01:05:33,224 --> 01:05:34,976
so that he can listen in
1181
01:05:35,101 --> 01:05:37,020
on conversations
in the apartment.
1182
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,315
He is so fixated
on what Ana's doing
1183
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,109
and wanting to catch
her cheating on him
1184
01:05:43,234 --> 01:05:46,071
or some damning
piece of evidence.
1185
01:05:49,783 --> 01:05:52,827
Around 11 o'clock, Ana
returned to the apartment.
1186
01:05:53,787 --> 01:05:56,331
She just calls me and she said,
1187
01:05:56,456 --> 01:06:00,418
"Babe, I came home and
the apartment is a mess.
1188
01:06:00,543 --> 01:06:02,796
There's stuff all
over the floor.
1189
01:06:02,921 --> 01:06:04,798
Everything's broken."
1190
01:06:06,091 --> 01:06:08,152
I was like, "Oh, my goodness,
you need to get out of there."
1191
01:06:08,176 --> 01:06:09,969
And she said, "I'll
call the front desk.
1192
01:06:10,095 --> 01:06:11,888
I'll ask them to
change the locks.
1193
01:06:12,013 --> 01:06:14,849
I'm going to go today to get a
restraining order against him.
1194
01:06:14,974 --> 01:06:16,434
Don't worry. I got this."
1195
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,353
She's like, "I
just need a favor."
1196
01:06:18,478 --> 01:06:20,980
Can you pick Amira up
from school for me,
1197
01:06:21,106 --> 01:06:22,899
so that I can clean
this apartment?
1198
01:06:23,024 --> 01:06:24,776
I don't want her to
come home to this mess
1199
01:06:24,901 --> 01:06:26,027
"and ask me what happened."
1200
01:06:28,780 --> 01:06:30,907
Ana felt very scared
1201
01:06:31,032 --> 01:06:33,201
after he vandalized
the apartment...
1202
01:06:34,077 --> 01:06:38,039
and asked Ray to come
over and help clean up.
1203
01:06:39,082 --> 01:06:41,543
Ana and Rayburn were friends.
1204
01:06:41,668 --> 01:06:44,170
Ana said that they
were just hanging out.
1205
01:06:45,755 --> 01:06:48,675
A few hours later, Rayburn
arrives to the apartment
1206
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,385
and they're talking.
1207
01:06:50,510 --> 01:06:53,138
Ali is back at his hotel room,
1208
01:06:53,263 --> 01:06:55,223
listening in, and he can hear
1209
01:06:55,348 --> 01:06:58,143
Ana's there with a male voice.
1210
01:06:59,894 --> 01:07:01,604
Ali gets in his car
1211
01:07:01,730 --> 01:07:03,773
and he drives over
to the apartment
1212
01:07:03,898 --> 01:07:05,066
in downtown San Diego.
1213
01:07:12,532 --> 01:07:15,535
Ali parks the car, and
then he enters on foot
1214
01:07:15,660 --> 01:07:18,329
into the parking
garage around 2:50.
1215
01:07:19,706 --> 01:07:21,916
He then starts recording
with his phone.
1216
01:07:24,794 --> 01:07:28,423
Ali enters the elevator and
he encounters another person
1217
01:07:28,548 --> 01:07:30,884
and he engages in
some small talk.
1218
01:07:40,185 --> 01:07:44,439
At 2:58, Ali arrives
on the 35th floor.
1219
01:07:44,564 --> 01:07:47,192
Thirty-five.
1220
01:07:49,152 --> 01:07:53,031
Ali gets off the elevator,
he walks down the hallway...
1221
01:07:54,699 --> 01:07:57,494
and using the electronic
key card that he made...
1222
01:07:59,245 --> 01:08:01,956
you can hear him
opening up the door.
1223
01:08:06,169 --> 01:08:07,712
He racks a round into the gun.
1224
01:08:10,382 --> 01:08:12,801
You can hear Rayburn call out.
1225
01:08:12,926 --> 01:08:14,135
Whoa!
1226
01:08:14,928 --> 01:08:16,513
And then we hear the gunshots.
1227
01:08:20,684 --> 01:08:23,353
And you can hear Ana's voice
as well as she's calling out.
1228
01:08:29,901 --> 01:08:32,654
He racks a couple more rounds
in after the first four shots...
1229
01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:35,532
and then shoots two more times.
1230
01:08:45,917 --> 01:08:50,046
At this point, Ali
exits the apartment.
1231
01:08:52,590 --> 01:08:55,010
He goes back and
forth a few times,
1232
01:08:55,135 --> 01:08:58,930
then he opens the door
of the apartment again...
1233
01:09:01,391 --> 01:09:03,601
and screams out Ana's name.
1234
01:09:05,895 --> 01:09:08,023
Ana! Ana!
1235
01:09:22,996 --> 01:09:24,289
Yes.
1236
01:09:26,791 --> 01:09:29,127
I was going to pick her up
before I headed into work.
1237
01:09:29,252 --> 01:09:31,087
And right in front of me,
1238
01:09:31,212 --> 01:09:33,548
I see Ali pull up
1239
01:09:33,673 --> 01:09:35,842
and grab Amira and
put her in the car.
1240
01:09:36,968 --> 01:09:38,636
At this point, I'm
not sure what to do.
1241
01:09:38,762 --> 01:09:40,388
I was supposed to pick her up.
1242
01:09:40,513 --> 01:09:42,974
So I'm trying to call Ana
and she doesn't pick up.
1243
01:09:44,601 --> 01:09:46,019
And I'm texting her, I'm like,
1244
01:09:46,144 --> 01:09:47,744
"Hey, Ali's here trying
to pick Amira up.
1245
01:09:47,771 --> 01:09:49,272
What do I do? What do I do?"
1246
01:09:49,397 --> 01:09:50,732
She didn't text me back.
1247
01:09:51,107 --> 01:09:53,234
And so I follow him
1248
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,320
while I'm calling
and calling her,
1249
01:09:55,445 --> 01:09:58,239
trying to get an answer
of what I should do.
1250
01:09:58,365 --> 01:10:00,742
Car gets in between
us and he goes far
1251
01:10:00,867 --> 01:10:02,494
and he turns right
and then I lose him.
1252
01:10:09,125 --> 01:10:12,587
There was a neighbor witness
who actually heard the shots.
1253
01:10:12,712 --> 01:10:14,005
She calls 911.
1254
01:10:25,809 --> 01:10:28,353
Ali's Jeep is spotted
on the I-15 freeway
1255
01:10:28,478 --> 01:10:30,480
where he is arrested.
1256
01:10:31,690 --> 01:10:34,526
They search the car
and they find a gun
1257
01:10:34,651 --> 01:10:36,528
and they find about 100 rounds
1258
01:10:36,653 --> 01:10:38,530
of nine millimeter ammunition.
1259
01:10:39,948 --> 01:10:41,324
The daughter is fine
1260
01:10:41,449 --> 01:10:43,576
and they take custody
of the daughter
1261
01:10:43,702 --> 01:10:45,787
and she's later given
to family members.
1262
01:10:49,749 --> 01:10:52,293
At that point, I
just... I was lost.
1263
01:10:52,419 --> 01:10:54,838
I... I didn't know what
to do. I was panicking.
1264
01:10:54,963 --> 01:10:56,297
I called my friend Claire.
1265
01:10:56,423 --> 01:10:58,091
I said, "Claire, Ana
hasn't picked up.
1266
01:10:58,216 --> 01:11:01,386
That's really strange. Can
you go to her apartment?"
1267
01:11:02,053 --> 01:11:03,805
And then she calls
me 15 minutes later
1268
01:11:03,930 --> 01:11:06,641
and she's like, "I can't
get to her apartment."
1269
01:11:07,559 --> 01:11:09,159
I was like, "What are
you talking about?"
1270
01:11:09,227 --> 01:11:10,621
She says, "They
have it blocked off.
1271
01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:12,439
There's a lot of cops here."
1272
01:11:14,649 --> 01:11:17,569
And my heart just sank.
1273
01:11:17,694 --> 01:11:21,031
And I was just... I
just knew already.
1274
01:11:21,156 --> 01:11:22,699
I just knew.
1275
01:11:22,824 --> 01:11:25,160
But I was in disbelief.
I was in shock.
1276
01:11:27,787 --> 01:11:29,622
New information this afternoon
1277
01:11:29,748 --> 01:11:32,417
about a double homicide inside
an East Village high rise.
1278
01:11:32,542 --> 01:11:34,461
Two people have
been confirmed dead
1279
01:11:34,586 --> 01:11:37,922
after a shooting that
happened at Island in 15.
1280
01:11:39,299 --> 01:11:42,469
The friend called me
and she was crying.
1281
01:11:42,594 --> 01:11:45,847
She said that, "I think
he finally did it."
1282
01:11:49,559 --> 01:11:50,977
Cops made entry.
1283
01:11:51,102 --> 01:11:53,063
They find that Rayburn
1284
01:11:53,188 --> 01:11:55,440
is on the couch, deceased.
1285
01:11:55,565 --> 01:11:57,984
He has a gunshot
wound to his face
1286
01:11:58,109 --> 01:11:59,778
and his head is back.
1287
01:11:59,903 --> 01:12:02,238
Ana is sitting next to him.
1288
01:12:02,364 --> 01:12:04,574
She has a gunshot
wound to her head
1289
01:12:04,699 --> 01:12:08,453
and her body is slumped
over, kind of in his lap.
1290
01:12:15,794 --> 01:12:17,962
It was already two
in the morning.
1291
01:12:18,088 --> 01:12:19,422
And we're all
sitting in the lobby
1292
01:12:19,547 --> 01:12:20,799
and we're just waiting.
1293
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:27,430
Police come and he
says, "I'm so sorry,
1294
01:12:27,555 --> 01:12:30,266
but that was Ana
Marie and Rayburn
1295
01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:31,601
that was shot upstairs."
1296
01:12:33,061 --> 01:12:34,061
And...
1297
01:12:35,063 --> 01:12:37,190
I've just never felt
anything like that.
1298
01:12:37,315 --> 01:12:39,943
My... my heart just dropped.
1299
01:12:40,068 --> 01:12:43,029
I've just never felt
so much pain before.
1300
01:12:44,197 --> 01:12:46,825
I called... Ana's mom was
the first person I called...
1301
01:12:47,867 --> 01:12:48,867
and I told her.
1302
01:12:49,536 --> 01:12:52,247
And she's like, "What are
you talking about, Julia?
1303
01:12:52,372 --> 01:12:53,790
What are you talking about?"
1304
01:12:54,165 --> 01:12:56,543
And... and I couldn't tell her.
1305
01:12:56,668 --> 01:12:59,170
And we just both started
crying on the phone.
1306
01:13:06,344 --> 01:13:08,722
It was so shocking.
It was unreal.
1307
01:13:08,847 --> 01:13:10,849
I didn't believe it at first
1308
01:13:10,974 --> 01:13:13,893
until the news came out.
1309
01:13:14,019 --> 01:13:17,397
And then I saw the
condo taped off
1310
01:13:17,522 --> 01:13:19,190
and the police outside and...
1311
01:13:20,233 --> 01:13:21,401
it was real.
1312
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,571
Ali confesses to police
1313
01:13:24,696 --> 01:13:26,781
five hours after the murders,
1314
01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:30,660
Ali is charged with two
counts of first degree murder,
1315
01:13:30,785 --> 01:13:32,579
a gun use allegation,
1316
01:13:32,704 --> 01:13:35,373
and a special
circumstance allegation
1317
01:13:35,498 --> 01:13:37,334
of committing multiple murders,
1318
01:13:37,459 --> 01:13:40,670
which means that he could
face the death penalty.
1319
01:13:49,346 --> 01:13:51,222
I attended the
preliminary hearing.
1320
01:13:51,348 --> 01:13:53,224
I mean, it was explosive.
1321
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:55,110
I did work at the district
attorney's office,
1322
01:13:55,185 --> 01:13:57,562
and I've done criminal
post-conviction law,
1323
01:13:57,687 --> 01:13:59,939
and I've never been to
a hearing like that.
1324
01:14:00,774 --> 01:14:02,984
One of the detectives testified
1325
01:14:03,109 --> 01:14:06,112
that when he reviewed the
Instagram account of Ana,
1326
01:14:06,237 --> 01:14:08,656
he started describing
what he thought
1327
01:14:08,782 --> 01:14:11,743
was a relationship
between Ana and Rayburn
1328
01:14:11,868 --> 01:14:14,329
that now had turned
more romantic.
1329
01:14:25,131 --> 01:14:28,426
It's very unusual to
have the defendant
1330
01:14:28,551 --> 01:14:30,804
say anything in a
court proceeding.
1331
01:14:30,929 --> 01:14:33,223
And then he just completely
started losing it
1332
01:14:33,348 --> 01:14:34,516
from that point.
1333
01:14:49,656 --> 01:14:51,199
What would you do
if you found out
1334
01:14:51,324 --> 01:14:52,826
that your favorite TikTok star
1335
01:14:52,951 --> 01:14:54,869
was actually a
cold-blooded killer?
1336
01:14:54,994 --> 01:14:57,497
Whoa. I know you've
seen these videos.
1337
01:14:57,622 --> 01:15:00,291
The terrifying story
of Ali Abulaban.
1338
01:15:00,417 --> 01:15:02,085
It was big news.
1339
01:15:02,210 --> 01:15:04,462
A beautiful couple
is now torn apart
1340
01:15:04,587 --> 01:15:06,339
because of a double homicide.
1341
01:15:06,464 --> 01:15:09,050
This TikTok influencer was
just arrested for murder.
1342
01:15:09,175 --> 01:15:11,177
Ali pled not guilty to
first degree murder charges.
1343
01:15:11,302 --> 01:15:12,738
This is why you shouldn't
believe everything
1344
01:15:12,762 --> 01:15:13,972
you see on social media.
1345
01:15:14,097 --> 01:15:15,348
People were hearing about this
1346
01:15:15,473 --> 01:15:16,641
almost across the world.
1347
01:15:20,311 --> 01:15:22,897
And then when I saw the
outbursts in court...
1348
01:15:23,023 --> 01:15:24,149
I wanted this?
1349
01:15:24,274 --> 01:15:25,354
That's when I wrote him.
1350
01:15:25,442 --> 01:15:26,776
Who the are you?
1351
01:15:26,901 --> 01:15:28,261
"I'm a reporter
covering the story,
1352
01:15:28,361 --> 01:15:30,071
and I'd love to hear your side."
1353
01:15:30,822 --> 01:15:33,158
Now to a story you'll
see first on Fox 5.
1354
01:15:33,283 --> 01:15:36,119
A jailhouse interview
with a rising TikTok star
1355
01:15:36,244 --> 01:15:38,329
accused of double murder.
1356
01:15:41,124 --> 01:15:43,835
So when you heard Rayburn's
voice, you went to...
1357
01:15:46,838 --> 01:15:48,006
But what were you thinking?
1358
01:15:54,095 --> 01:15:56,473
The crying, the
screaming, the slamming.
1359
01:15:56,598 --> 01:15:58,933
When I saw that, I
just saw pure evil.
1360
01:15:59,726 --> 01:16:01,726
What happens when you
get to the apartment?
1361
01:16:13,114 --> 01:16:14,532
And he says,
1362
01:16:14,657 --> 01:16:17,994
"Ray is on my
couch, my house."
1363
01:16:18,119 --> 01:16:19,329
"My, my, my."
1364
01:16:19,788 --> 01:16:21,539
Your family says that
1365
01:16:21,664 --> 01:16:23,416
your social media
fame changed you.
1366
01:16:23,541 --> 01:16:25,752
They say that you
were doing cocaine,
1367
01:16:25,877 --> 01:16:27,712
didn't really care
about the consequences.
1368
01:16:27,837 --> 01:16:29,339
Do you think that made you snap?
1369
01:16:29,464 --> 01:16:30,632
Do you think it changed you?
1370
01:16:48,566 --> 01:16:49,734
Mm-hmm.
1371
01:16:52,404 --> 01:16:54,155
When he's talking
about losing his baby,
1372
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,659
he's talking about losing
his business, his followers.
1373
01:16:57,784 --> 01:17:00,829
You can see what makes
him the most emotional
1374
01:17:00,954 --> 01:17:03,998
is that he feels he
lost his chance at fame.
1375
01:17:04,624 --> 01:17:08,294
And you can tell that outweighs,
1376
01:17:08,420 --> 01:17:11,589
in his point of view,
losing his family.
1377
01:17:20,098 --> 01:17:22,642
That, to me, is the
most disgusting,
1378
01:17:22,767 --> 01:17:24,936
volatile part of...
1379
01:17:25,937 --> 01:17:28,523
everything that
has to do with him.
1380
01:17:28,648 --> 01:17:30,650
He only wanted to bring up
1381
01:17:30,775 --> 01:17:34,029
he was this close
to getting famous.
1382
01:17:34,696 --> 01:17:36,948
Which is a stretch from reality.
1383
01:17:37,073 --> 01:17:39,909
I don't think his content
was very funny at all.
1384
01:17:40,869 --> 01:17:42,454
Did you kill her?
1385
01:17:48,835 --> 01:17:50,503
Could anyone else have Ana?
1386
01:18:03,725 --> 01:18:06,895
From jail, Ali actually
posted a video on YouTube.
1387
01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:08,438
Someone posted it on his behalf.
1388
01:18:08,563 --> 01:18:10,273
Hey, what's up, guys?
1389
01:18:10,398 --> 01:18:12,859
It's Ali, AKA JinnKid.
1390
01:18:12,984 --> 01:18:14,694
I haven't called myself
that for a while.
1391
01:18:14,819 --> 01:18:17,322
But, uh, I just
wanted to check in,
1392
01:18:17,447 --> 01:18:19,657
say that I'm doing
okay for the most part.
1393
01:18:19,783 --> 01:18:21,409
I'm trying my best
to stay positive.
1394
01:18:21,534 --> 01:18:24,079
He seems to be more
focused on the fame still.
1395
01:18:24,204 --> 01:18:27,082
He's like, "Oh, I'll
be back soon, guys.
1396
01:18:27,207 --> 01:18:29,226
I'm going to get you guys
the content you guys want.
1397
01:18:29,250 --> 01:18:31,878
I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry
that I'm stuck behind bars."
1398
01:18:32,003 --> 01:18:34,089
I just wanted to say I'm sorry
1399
01:18:34,214 --> 01:18:36,216
that I can't make the
videos that you love.
1400
01:18:36,341 --> 01:18:38,218
I'm sorry that, you know,
1401
01:18:38,343 --> 01:18:42,305
my life has come down to this.
1402
01:18:42,430 --> 01:18:46,101
But not sorry to his wife,
or the man that he killed.
1403
01:18:46,226 --> 01:18:48,269
I love that you
still support me
1404
01:18:48,395 --> 01:18:51,189
and you still watch my
videos and I love you guys.
1405
01:18:51,314 --> 01:18:53,692
Thank you for all
the great times.
1406
01:18:57,445 --> 01:18:59,614
Social media can
be really dangerous
1407
01:18:59,739 --> 01:19:02,409
in the hands of
the wrong person.
1408
01:19:02,534 --> 01:19:04,828
I don't know to what extent
1409
01:19:04,953 --> 01:19:06,538
Ali's obsession
1410
01:19:06,663 --> 01:19:08,832
with his social media presence
1411
01:19:08,957 --> 01:19:11,459
led to what he did.
1412
01:19:11,584 --> 01:19:14,295
But he clearly had a very
unhealthy relationship
1413
01:19:14,421 --> 01:19:15,964
with social media,
1414
01:19:16,089 --> 01:19:18,800
that muddied his
understanding of reality,
1415
01:19:18,925 --> 01:19:22,262
that seemed to
shape his impression
1416
01:19:22,387 --> 01:19:25,598
of what he believed was an
acceptable way to behave.
1417
01:19:25,724 --> 01:19:29,644
And I think that's something
worth paying attention to.
1418
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:40,905
Ali's decisions have
had dire consequences
1419
01:19:41,031 --> 01:19:44,200
for not only himself,
but for my entire family.
1420
01:19:44,325 --> 01:19:46,286
It's going to affect us
for the rest of our lives.
1421
01:19:47,245 --> 01:19:50,290
Ali's actions have
taken away a mother
1422
01:19:50,415 --> 01:19:52,625
and a father from
their daughter.
1423
01:19:52,751 --> 01:19:54,711
And now the daughter, you know,
1424
01:19:54,836 --> 01:19:56,671
is going to grow up
1425
01:19:56,796 --> 01:19:59,507
with somebody else other
than her actual parents.
1426
01:19:59,632 --> 01:20:02,635
But at least she gets
to be with her family.
1427
01:20:12,771 --> 01:20:14,939
Authorities finally allowed...
1428
01:20:16,316 --> 01:20:18,276
family and friends to
come into the apartment
1429
01:20:18,401 --> 01:20:21,613
and grab whatever Ana had left.
1430
01:20:22,864 --> 01:20:26,117
The apartment was still
exactly the same...
1431
01:20:27,786 --> 01:20:30,872
except the bodies
not being there.
1432
01:20:35,210 --> 01:20:36,628
When we walked into
the crime scene,
1433
01:20:36,753 --> 01:20:37,962
it was just...
1434
01:20:39,547 --> 01:20:41,174
it was very hard.
1435
01:20:41,299 --> 01:20:44,928
You see the breakfast
from that morning
1436
01:20:45,053 --> 01:20:47,222
still on the coffee table.
1437
01:20:48,682 --> 01:20:51,643
They took a part of the
couch out where it happened.
1438
01:20:51,768 --> 01:20:53,395
But you see the bullet holes.
1439
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,690
You see the mess that
Ali created that morning
1440
01:20:56,815 --> 01:20:58,525
that she was
FaceTiming me about.
1441
01:20:59,192 --> 01:21:01,194
It was... it was very hard.
1442
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:03,238
But, you know, we were there
1443
01:21:03,363 --> 01:21:06,574
to help Ana's family
retrieve her things.
1444
01:21:06,700 --> 01:21:08,410
And so that's what we did.
1445
01:21:11,955 --> 01:21:13,790
All I could think about was,
1446
01:21:13,915 --> 01:21:15,667
I would've tried harder...
1447
01:21:18,336 --> 01:21:21,006
to get her out
and keep her safe.
1448
01:21:24,259 --> 01:21:26,177
Because you need a tribe
1449
01:21:26,302 --> 01:21:29,305
to get out of a
narcissistic relationship.
1450
01:21:29,431 --> 01:21:32,434
It's hard for me to
accept her death,
1451
01:21:32,559 --> 01:21:35,645
because I want to say
she's in a better place,
1452
01:21:35,770 --> 01:21:38,940
but a better place, it
should be with her daughter.
1453
01:21:43,028 --> 01:21:45,280
This case is so much
about Ana and Ali,
1454
01:21:45,405 --> 01:21:47,449
sometimes we forget
there's another victim here
1455
01:21:47,574 --> 01:21:48,783
who lost his life.
1456
01:21:48,908 --> 01:21:49,909
That's Ray.
1457
01:21:51,202 --> 01:21:53,580
And maybe he was at the wrong
place in the wrong time.
1458
01:21:53,705 --> 01:21:55,457
He was a good friend.
1459
01:21:57,542 --> 01:22:00,170
Ray chose to be there for Ana,
1460
01:22:00,295 --> 01:22:03,298
because he saw her light
1461
01:22:03,423 --> 01:22:06,092
that was surrounded
by a lot of darkness.
1462
01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:14,618
The trial of a
popular TikTok star
1463
01:22:14,642 --> 01:22:16,186
started today.
1464
01:22:16,311 --> 01:22:18,938
Both sides actually
agree that Ali Abulaban
1465
01:22:19,064 --> 01:22:21,524
killed his estranged
wife and her friend.
1466
01:22:21,649 --> 01:22:23,109
But as for why it happened,
1467
01:22:23,234 --> 01:22:25,945
there are two very
different stories.
1468
01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:27,822
Everyone rise, please.
1469
01:22:29,991 --> 01:22:32,118
The Superior Court
is now in session.
1470
01:22:32,243 --> 01:22:34,287
At the end of this
trial, I will ask
1471
01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:36,164
that you find the
defendant guilty
1472
01:22:36,289 --> 01:22:38,833
of two counts of
first-degree murder.
1473
01:22:40,001 --> 01:22:41,503
One for Ana, one for Ray.
1474
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:53,390
It's not up for debate if
Ali killed Ana and Ray.
1475
01:22:53,515 --> 01:22:57,143
The question is, was
this premeditated?
1476
01:22:57,268 --> 01:22:59,896
Willfully spied on Ana,
caught her that day.
1477
01:23:00,021 --> 01:23:03,108
When we're talking about
proving premeditation,
1478
01:23:03,233 --> 01:23:04,776
that's a pretty tall order.
1479
01:23:04,901 --> 01:23:06,903
Even if you have one jury member
1480
01:23:07,028 --> 01:23:08,446
who doesn't agree with that,
1481
01:23:08,571 --> 01:23:10,451
you can have a hung jury,
and that's a mistrial.
1482
01:23:13,618 --> 01:23:15,745
There's a lot of
evidence in this trial.
1483
01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:17,497
The audio from Ali's phone
1484
01:23:25,255 --> 01:23:26,965
They also have video of Ali
1485
01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:29,300
riding at the
elevator, 35 floors.
1486
01:23:29,426 --> 01:23:32,429
Going up. Level 20.
1487
01:23:33,972 --> 01:23:36,099
Level 35.
1488
01:23:36,725 --> 01:23:38,165
A Nest Camera that's attached
1489
01:23:38,268 --> 01:23:39,978
to one of the neighbor's doors.
1490
01:23:46,401 --> 01:23:50,488
And you see Ali walk out of
the room into the hallway,
1491
01:23:50,613 --> 01:23:51,823
and he calls his mother,
1492
01:23:51,948 --> 01:23:54,159
and he confesses to killing Ana.
1493
01:24:02,459 --> 01:24:04,252
Ana knew Ali well.
1494
01:24:04,377 --> 01:24:06,546
She knew his underlying
vulnerabilities.
1495
01:24:06,671 --> 01:24:08,715
Public defender
Jodi Green argues
1496
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,842
that this it is
voluntary manslaughter
1497
01:24:10,967 --> 01:24:13,803
because she says this
was a crime of passion
1498
01:24:13,928 --> 01:24:15,513
and that Ali was provoked.
1499
01:24:25,607 --> 01:24:28,568
She knew his insecurities
about his mental illness,
1500
01:24:28,693 --> 01:24:31,946
his drug addiction, and
his own chaotic upbringing.
1501
01:24:32,072 --> 01:24:33,406
She used these,
1502
01:24:33,531 --> 01:24:35,283
and she weaponized
them against him.
1503
01:24:36,910 --> 01:24:40,663
She's saying that Ana
pushed Ali to the brink,
1504
01:24:40,789 --> 01:24:42,332
and that's why he broke.
1505
01:24:42,999 --> 01:24:46,252
That Ana was a cause
of why he killed her.
1506
01:24:46,378 --> 01:24:48,713
That Ana disrespected him.
1507
01:24:48,838 --> 01:24:51,466
We also see a picture
of Ana and Ray
1508
01:24:51,591 --> 01:24:54,219
kind of cuddled up together
on what looks to be a bed.
1509
01:24:54,344 --> 01:24:56,262
She's saying Ana cheated on him,
1510
01:24:56,388 --> 01:24:58,473
causing him to lose his mind,
1511
01:24:58,598 --> 01:25:01,184
go to the brink, and
shoot Ana and Ray.
1512
01:25:05,021 --> 01:25:07,232
And at this time, the
defense would call
1513
01:25:07,357 --> 01:25:09,359
Mr. Ali Abulaban.
1514
01:25:09,484 --> 01:25:13,071
And then on May 21st,
the defense calls Ali.
1515
01:25:15,323 --> 01:25:17,909
On the stand, Ali
is basically saying,
1516
01:25:18,034 --> 01:25:19,619
"Hey, I'm not a liar, here."
1517
01:25:19,744 --> 01:25:23,707
He's admitting to
killing Ana and Ray
1518
01:25:23,832 --> 01:25:25,125
and to being abusive,
1519
01:25:25,250 --> 01:25:28,670
and it's making him
seem believable.
1520
01:25:28,795 --> 01:25:30,922
I was trying to believe
her, I was trying to believe
1521
01:25:31,047 --> 01:25:32,674
that she wasn't cheating on me,
1522
01:25:32,799 --> 01:25:34,777
that she would let me fix
this, because I was sick.
1523
01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:37,595
I was struggling from
drugs and mental illness.
1524
01:25:37,721 --> 01:25:39,347
And when I saw
that it was him...
1525
01:25:43,184 --> 01:25:44,561
I couldn't take it.
1526
01:25:44,686 --> 01:25:47,105
I couldn't take the
fucking betrayal.
1527
01:25:48,273 --> 01:25:50,150
Thank you. Nothing
further at this time.
1528
01:25:51,985 --> 01:25:55,071
Taren Brast begins
her cross-examination.
1529
01:25:56,406 --> 01:25:59,576
And you know from the beginning,
she's trying to break him down.
1530
01:25:59,701 --> 01:26:02,037
You were mad at Ana
because she told you
1531
01:26:02,162 --> 01:26:04,080
over and over again that
she did not want to be
1532
01:26:04,205 --> 01:26:05,457
married to you, correct?
1533
01:26:06,875 --> 01:26:08,626
You were mad at Ana.
1534
01:26:08,752 --> 01:26:11,671
October 17th, you were violent
and angry with her, correct?
1535
01:26:11,796 --> 01:26:14,382
I became violent at
the last second, yes.
1536
01:26:14,507 --> 01:26:16,593
She's bringing up
searches on his phone,
1537
01:26:16,718 --> 01:26:18,553
such as a trash can,
1538
01:26:18,678 --> 01:26:22,098
exploitation of
minors, sex workers,
1539
01:26:22,223 --> 01:26:24,184
and chopped bodies.
1540
01:26:24,309 --> 01:26:25,435
You're out of your mind.
1541
01:26:26,227 --> 01:26:28,229
You're not going to paint
me as something I'm not.
1542
01:26:30,648 --> 01:26:34,194
After a four-week
excruciating trial,
1543
01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:36,237
the jury retires to deliberate,
1544
01:26:36,363 --> 01:26:38,656
and everyone is just
on pins and needles
1545
01:26:38,782 --> 01:26:40,533
to see what's going to happen.
1546
01:26:43,703 --> 01:26:45,743
Come to order. The
court is now is session.
1547
01:26:54,005 --> 01:26:55,965
We, the jury, in the
above-entitled cause,
1548
01:26:56,091 --> 01:26:59,886
find the defendant, Ali
Nasser Abulaban, guilty
1549
01:27:00,011 --> 01:27:02,472
of the crime of murder
in the first degree.
1550
01:27:05,058 --> 01:27:06,726
The jury finds Ali guilty
1551
01:27:06,851 --> 01:27:09,312
of two counts of
first-degree murder.
1552
01:27:14,818 --> 01:27:17,737
We didn't have any doubt
that we were going to get
1553
01:27:17,862 --> 01:27:20,865
anything other than guilty,
but it's just the relief.
1554
01:27:20,990 --> 01:27:23,284
We've been waiting almost
three years for this.
1555
01:27:23,410 --> 01:27:26,079
She didn't think he would do it
1556
01:27:26,204 --> 01:27:28,039
because every domestic
violence victim
1557
01:27:28,164 --> 01:27:30,417
is not there for themselves.
1558
01:27:32,752 --> 01:27:34,480
And that's what we need
to change in this world.
1559
01:27:34,504 --> 01:27:36,006
We need to look
at this situation,
1560
01:27:36,131 --> 01:27:37,382
and this is the end result.
1561
01:27:37,507 --> 01:27:39,342
This is the end result.
1562
01:27:42,679 --> 01:27:45,390
I think for anyone
who's in a situation
1563
01:27:45,515 --> 01:27:47,392
where they're
experiencing abuse,
1564
01:27:47,517 --> 01:27:50,520
the number one thing, I think,
is to reach out to somebody.
1565
01:27:50,645 --> 01:27:54,607
I think the enemy of
making healthy decisions
1566
01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:58,361
is isolation and keeping
things to yourself.
1567
01:27:58,486 --> 01:27:59,988
And so the first
step, there are just
1568
01:28:00,113 --> 01:28:01,740
so many resources available.
1569
01:28:01,865 --> 01:28:04,284
There are hotlines, there
are community resources.
1570
01:28:04,409 --> 01:28:07,245
Making sure that you
end that isolation
1571
01:28:07,370 --> 01:28:08,621
in some way.
1572
01:28:14,586 --> 01:28:18,465
I sit here today,
sharing Ana's story,
1573
01:28:18,590 --> 01:28:22,052
because I want people
to not be silent,
1574
01:28:22,177 --> 01:28:25,930
to not care about what you
look like on social media
1575
01:28:26,056 --> 01:28:29,768
or care what people are
going to think of you
1576
01:28:29,893 --> 01:28:32,437
because you're in
a bad situation.
1577
01:28:33,688 --> 01:28:35,648
Your truth is who you are,
1578
01:28:35,774 --> 01:28:39,402
and you need to
embrace it and own it.
1579
01:28:39,527 --> 01:28:43,239
And we need to be the change
that we want for the world.
1580
01:28:45,325 --> 01:28:46,594
I wish we could have seen
1581
01:28:46,618 --> 01:28:48,411
all our daughters
grow up together
1582
01:28:48,536 --> 01:28:50,455
and have this mom life,
1583
01:28:50,580 --> 01:28:52,624
take them to the beach and...
1584
01:28:52,749 --> 01:28:55,168
I just... I miss her so much.
1585
01:28:55,293 --> 01:28:56,920
I really, really
miss her so much.
1586
01:28:57,045 --> 01:29:00,298
And I really, really wish
she was still here with us.
1587
01:29:00,423 --> 01:29:01,716
But we're here now.
1588
01:29:04,928 --> 01:29:07,222
Now we're gonna continue
to make her proud.
1589
01:29:10,517 --> 01:29:13,311
Silence is what got Ana here.
1590
01:29:13,436 --> 01:29:16,439
Her story needs to be heard
1591
01:29:16,564 --> 01:29:18,191
to save other women,
1592
01:29:18,316 --> 01:29:22,737
and to prevent children growing
up without their parents.
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