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♪ Please, please
tell me now... ♪
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What did I wanna be
when I grew up?
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I wanted to be adored.
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♪ Please, please
tell me now... ♪
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I was just, like,
perpetually excited in 1981.
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It was just so much fun.
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That's what New Romantic was...
Wearing that on the 50 bus.
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What teenage
girl didn't have a crush
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on every single guy
in that band?
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This one person
threw three bras on the stage.
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And two pairs of knickers.
I thought,
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"She's definitely not wearing
any underwear now."
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♪ Girls on film... ♪
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Every time you tried to move,
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there would be 200 teenage girls
trying to rip you apart.
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Duran Duran is my life.
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Waiting for them
outside of BBC...
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They never noticed me.
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Nobody really wanted to
give you credit for the fact
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that everybody was
a great musician.
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I feel like Duran Duran
is my second band.
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♪ Her name is Rio... ♪
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The demands on us
had become absurd.
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It's like one of those
rat wheels isn't it?
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And you just gotta be
King Rat sometimes and say,
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"Bollocks. I'm jumping off."
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The atmosphere
was completely toxic.
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We'd just had a few years of,
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like, "'80s band, '80s band."
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I think they just saw
the boat going the other way
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down the river
with all their money on it.
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Imagine to be in
a band like Duran Duran
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and have the career
that they've had.
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That's, like,
the ultimate dream.
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♪ No-No-Notorious... ♪
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For me, all of our albums
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define different stages
in our career.
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The first album
was our game plan.
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♪ Only came outside ♪
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♪ To watch the night
fall with the rain... ♪
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The way we are
on that first album,
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we're all playing the best
that we could play,
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and we're all just
playing every note we know.
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♪ Some New Romantic
looking for the TV sound... ♪
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"Planet Earth" was the energy
of rock music and punk,
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and strong melody.
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We all loved melodies,
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good songs,
that was what it was about.
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♪ Look now,
look all around ♪
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♪ There's no sign of life ♪
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♪ Voices, another sound ♪
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♪ Can you hear me now? ♪
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- Ooh, it smells old.
- Jesus!
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The Decrepids.
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Oh... Oh, come on, Rodge.
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Come on. Let's get cozy.
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- Snuggle up in the back.
- Put your seat belt on.
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Well, if you're driving, I will.
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- He's actually driving it?
- Oh, no.
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That's what I said.
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I'm in the danger seat.
You're fine there.
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So it appears that in here...
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our very first demo,
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in Birmingham,
for our first album.
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- It's "Faster Than Light."
- It is.
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Oh, wow.
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- ♪ The light ♪
- ♪ Faster than light ♪
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- ♪ The light ♪
- ♪ Faster than light... ♪
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I think the last time we were
in a Citroen was probably,
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together, maybe 1982?
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I don't know how we
came across the first Citroen,
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but it was, like,
the perfect car for Duran Duran.
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It was super fast
and it was super comfortable.
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I don't remember where
we got the first one from.
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- We bought the second one.
- Buying the second one
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was a major commitment
to success.
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We don't know
what else is on here.
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Let's have a look.
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- Andy's playing was...
- The car's shaking.
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Andy's playing was very
economical, wasn't it?
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Oh, yeah, but that was so great.
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- He played essential guitar.
- Yeah.
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That's a loud vocal. Wow.
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I hate... The vocal's horrible.
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- It's so loud.
- Horrible vocal!
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Stop it!
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White riot, I wanna riot ♪
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♪ White riot,
a riot of our own... ♪
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Aah!
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We really became brothers.
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We were both single kids.
We didn't have any siblings.
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We lived a few hundred meters
away from each other
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in Hollywood, Birmingham.
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There was a lot of other kids
at school that loved music.
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But not as much as we did.
Or that's what we thought.
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Blondie, Talking Heads,
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Patti Smith, Roxy Music...
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we saw lots and lots of times.
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I took John
to his first concert.
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It was in April 1974,
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and it was actually Mick Ronson.
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And it cost us £1.35 each.
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Every time we went to a show,
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John and I used to
count the trucks
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outside at the back of the show
and figure out
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how many lights they had
and how much sound, and think
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how many we needed to make
what we were gonna do happen.
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My dad was a manual worker.
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My dad worked at the Rover.
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So it was very much expected
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that I would remain
a manual worker.
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I didn't think it was
a great way of life.
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I wanted to do
something different.
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I had this dream
of being in a band.
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Birmingham was a very small
world in those days,
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and anybody who was
kind of any good,
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you know, you'd hear about.
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So I think that John and Nick
had heard about me,
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and I'd heard about Duran Duran.
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We were rehearsing at this...
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this squat in Cheapside.
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It was kind of like
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the armpit of Birmingham
down here.
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This is really,
it's the spiritual home
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of Duran Duran right here.
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Roger is the most likable person
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you'll ever
meet in this business.
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You know, and right away
we clicked.
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Just set my drums up
and started jamming,
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and they said,
"Come back next week,"
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so I must have got
the gig, you know.
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So this is really my moment,
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is just walking through
that door right there.
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♪ Outside ♪
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♪ Is there anyone out there? ♪
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At 19 years old, it was like
walking into a space rocket.
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It took me all over the world,
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and kind of everything
that I have,
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really, that's good in life
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is a result of walking
through that...
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through that door there.
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♪ Look out of the window ♪
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♪ Baby, you can call
by my name... ♪
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Birmingham at that time
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might as well have been
the center of the world.
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I don't feel like...
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It was the center
of our world, wasn't it?
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I don't feel like
we ever thought,
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"Oh, man,
I wish we lived in London."
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The Rum Runner was
like the sort of premier
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New Romantic club
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in Birmingham
where everybody went.
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It had this really big
kind of entrance
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that was like a big corridor
that was almost like a catwalk.
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It really was just about
showing off.
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It was about going out,
getting your photo taken.
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It was just about
getting attention.
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This is where we found
somewhere to rehearse.
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This is where we found
our management.
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This is where we found Andy.
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This is where we found Simon.
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This was like our Cavern,
in a way.
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So I guess within about a month
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of having gone
to the Rum Runner,
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suddenly it's Nick,
me and Rodge,
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and now we're planning
world domination,
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although we don't have
a guitar player and a singer,
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but this is, like, the...
This is the core.
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We were looking
for a guitar player
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that could play, like,
Nile Rodgers funk,
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but could play, like,
Mick Ronson lead,
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and there weren't that many
who could do that.
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Andy came down from Newcastle.
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We joke about his style,
you know,
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'cause that wasn't his thing,
but he thought about music,
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and he just right away brought...
He took us to another level.
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♪ Da-da, da-da ♪
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♪ Groovin' now
to X-Ray Spex... ♪
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We all had jobs here
doing different things.
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Nick got the DJ job,
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John worked on the door,
I worked behind the bar.
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And I remember Simon comes
walking down one day,
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and that was our first meeting.
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When he said his name was
Simon Le Bon,
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we sort of didn't believe
that was his real name,
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but anyway, turned out it was.
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And he had a lyric book
with him.
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Well, this was the holy grail.
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There were things in there,
and we started reading through.
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Wow! This would be perfect
if only he can sing.
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♪ All alone ain't much fun ♪
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♪ So you're looking
for the thrill... ♪
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When he started singing,
it was crazy.
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It was just one of those
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fantastic "Eureka!" moments.
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♪ Don't say a prayer
for me now ♪
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♪ Save it till
the morning after ♪
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♪ No, don't say a prayer
for me now ♪
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♪ Save it till
the morning after... ♪
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I thought, this guy's a star.
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He was tall,
he was well put together,
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and he was really smart.
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I mean, he's a poet,
Simon, you know?
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So at that time particularly,
he was always writing words.
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The gold dust
of the music business
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is words on paper.
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Whatever anybody else
will tell you
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about grooves or notes,
it's all about those lyrics.
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♪ Any other day ♪
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♪ You might have gone
walking by ♪
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♪ Without a second look ♪
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♪ Any other way ♪
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♪ But I'm still mystified ♪
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♪ I'm just trying to
change my luck ♪
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♪ Staring at the world... ♪
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I'm going to take you
to the church,
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'cause we're gonna go
and see Mr. Turvey...
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my old choir master.
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♪ And nobody knows ♪
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♪ What's gonna happen
tomorrow... ♪
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This is the beautiful...
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Church of St. John
the Baptist, Pinner.
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This is where I was a choirboy
for four years.
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This place had a huge effect
on my musical development.
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I grew to love church music
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and the intricacies of it
and the harmonies.
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Hello. Long time.
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- Nice to see you.
- It's been many years.
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So this is where I spent
a lot of time sitting.
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Right here. Yeah.
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There'd be somebody there
who was better than me.
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Until, for a very brief time,
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I became the one
who sat... here.
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So this is myself and you,
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performing
"O For the Wings of a Dove."
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In this particular place.
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Yes, right. Right here.
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♪ O for the wings ♪
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♪ For the wings of a dove ♪
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- ♪ Far away ♪
- Yeah.
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♪ Far away would I rove ♪
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I didn't quite get
my breathing right there.
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I was running out of breath.
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Yes. There's a long note
coming up.
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- Yeah. Totally out of breath.
- Yeah.
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- ♪ Far away ♪
- That's it.
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♪ Far away would I rove ♪
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I'm a little bit
ahead of the beat as well,
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- I think.
- Just a fraction.
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That's something
that I've worked
251
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for decades to try
and overcome, actually.
252
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Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah.
253
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♪ Far away ♪
254
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-That's my favorite note in it.
255
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- That one.
- You got it right that time.
256
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-Yeah.
257
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We thought we were
so great, didn't we?
258
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We thought that we were
gonna take over the world.
259
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But I don't think
we were arrogant, though.
260
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Well, at the time,
we were young.
261
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We were teenagers.
I was 17.
262
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We were a lot more alike then.
263
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We were really birds
of a feather, you know,
264
00:14:27,082 --> 00:14:29,581
and we had a...
And our dress, really,
265
00:14:29,582 --> 00:14:31,456
I think, helped
define us in a way.
266
00:14:31,457 --> 00:14:33,874
Charlie, you had
some theatrical things.
267
00:14:33,875 --> 00:14:37,456
There was some gray velvet thing
that you had made.
268
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Gray velvet
with purple slashing.
269
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It was right out of
Midsummer Night's Dream.
270
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Yeah, it was.
Oh, my goodness.
271
00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:46,249
- It had bells.
- It had bells on it.
272
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You'd hear him coming down
the corridor with bells.
273
00:14:48,542 --> 00:14:49,915
That was one of the things
274
00:14:49,917 --> 00:14:51,249
that was great about
that period, actually.
275
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None of us were afraid of color.
276
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- Except Roger.
- Apart from me.
277
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He just used to wear black.
278
00:14:56,207 --> 00:14:58,582
I was completely
afraid of color.
279
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Yeah, yeah.
280
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You look like you
should be in Wham!
281
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Very nice, Roger.
282
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Baby, I'm your man.
283
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- Ooh!
- ♪ Come fly with me ♪
284
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I don't think we better go
any deeper into here.
285
00:15:27,582 --> 00:15:29,916
Music at that time
was kind of androgynous.
286
00:15:29,917 --> 00:15:31,957
There was this crossover,
you know,
287
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between girls and boys
wearing the same...
288
00:15:34,917 --> 00:15:36,707
There were clothes
that crossed over,
289
00:15:36,709 --> 00:15:38,164
and we kind of bought into that.
290
00:15:38,165 --> 00:15:39,957
- We found 'em.
- Yeah, we did.
291
00:15:39,959 --> 00:15:42,665
We used to trawl
the streets of Birmingham
292
00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:46,124
trying to find, uh,
bits of clothing.
293
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Ladies' clothes
that would fit us.
294
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Yes, but we...
Then it was easier, right?
295
00:15:53,290 --> 00:15:55,289
I can see you working
the bumper cars in that outfit.
296
00:15:55,290 --> 00:15:57,206
- Yeah, really? Cheers.
- I quite like that.
297
00:15:57,207 --> 00:15:58,624
Yeah, so do I.
298
00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:01,832
Italian Vogue.
Old habit, you know.
299
00:16:01,833 --> 00:16:03,999
Uh...
300
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,957
We were out at dinner
with Andy Warhol once,
301
00:16:05,958 --> 00:16:07,374
and somebody asked Andy,
302
00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:09,874
"Which do you think
is the coolest Vogue?"
303
00:16:09,875 --> 00:16:13,331
And at the time, I'd made it
as far as Paris Vogue,
304
00:16:13,332 --> 00:16:15,206
and I was really into
Paris Vogue, and he said,
305
00:16:15,207 --> 00:16:17,666
"Oh, Italian Vogue,
definitely."
306
00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,749
And we were like,
"Italian Vogue?
307
00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:22,832
Is there one?"
You know?
308
00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:24,417
Pictures of girls.
309
00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:38,164
I first met
Duran Duran around 1980
310
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when they came into the shop.
311
00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:44,039
We became very good friends.
They had the balls to run around
312
00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,915
with all the makeup
and the hair.
313
00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,124
This lot didn't give a damn,
314
00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:50,540
and they'd worked out
that women quite liked it.
315
00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,540
So when they came along,
they were a breath of fresh air.
316
00:16:53,542 --> 00:16:56,790
This is from the year...
317
00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:58,999
- Well, that's probably from...
- Well, when you first started.
318
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1981.
319
00:17:04,165 --> 00:17:05,708
I think after the punk thing,
320
00:17:05,709 --> 00:17:07,039
military was still very much...
321
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,374
Military was very happening.
322
00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,708
But you, of course,
broke the mold for that.
323
00:17:11,709 --> 00:17:14,540
You lot went in
waist-deep into it
324
00:17:14,541 --> 00:17:18,457
♪ I saw you
at the air race yesterday ♪
325
00:17:18,458 --> 00:17:21,999
♪ April showers
get out of my way... ♪
326
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,332
You obviously kept
all these over the years.
327
00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,499
- How many are there?
- There's about 10,000 in all.
328
00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,457
This was actually worn
in the "Planet Earth" video,
329
00:17:31,458 --> 00:17:33,582
along with one of your suits.
330
00:17:33,583 --> 00:17:37,082
The shirts were like this one,
because they had to be.
331
00:17:37,083 --> 00:17:39,915
It's the low arm holes
and all of the rest of it.
332
00:17:39,916 --> 00:17:41,999
That's your easy wear.
333
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,164
It wasn't easy wear
on the number 50 bus
334
00:17:44,165 --> 00:17:45,415
from Birmingham.
335
00:17:45,416 --> 00:17:46,915
That's what New Romantic was:
336
00:17:46,916 --> 00:17:48,582
wearing that on the 50 bus.
337
00:17:48,583 --> 00:17:50,999
So this one was from 1983,
338
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,915
and that's from the front cover
339
00:17:52,916 --> 00:17:55,164
of the Seven
and the Ragged Tiger album.
340
00:17:55,165 --> 00:17:57,207
This fabric's
happening now big-time.
341
00:17:57,208 --> 00:17:59,082
It's everywhere on the catwalk.
342
00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:02,039
Well, then, only 37 years
ahead of our time.
343
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,289
I remember
when you came to the shop.
344
00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:07,749
We came because
when we finally got
345
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,082
our advance from EMI records,
346
00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:12,582
and part of it was
a clothing budget for...
347
00:18:12,583 --> 00:18:14,289
Which you insisted on,
of course.
348
00:18:14,290 --> 00:18:15,958
- Of course.
- The first band to do that.
349
00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:18,249
No, the hard work
was writing the songs
350
00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:19,833
and getting all of that right.
351
00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:21,332
- We know that.
- Finally, when you get to
352
00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,332
sort of present it,
that's the fun,
353
00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:25,039
sort of saying,
"How are we going do this?"
354
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,289
- Put it all in positions.
- It ends up like this.
355
00:18:27,290 --> 00:18:29,000
There you go.
356
00:18:31,541 --> 00:18:33,790
Well, perfect for shopping
in Oxford Street.
357
00:18:33,791 --> 00:18:37,164
These are the epitome
of '80s over-the-top.
358
00:18:37,165 --> 00:18:39,958
- Really? You think so?
- Oh, I think so, yeah.
359
00:18:39,959 --> 00:18:42,624
I mean,
they're quite panto-y now,
360
00:18:42,625 --> 00:18:44,332
but at the time they were right,
361
00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:47,249
because they fused
military with romance.
362
00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:50,332
We've got these
corseted-back trousers here
363
00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:53,457
that were all laced up the back,
364
00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:55,499
and then these hanging jackets.
365
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,665
- It's, uh, matador-ish.
- Yeah, yeah.
366
00:18:58,666 --> 00:19:00,749
Somehow
we managed to make it work
367
00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:04,749
because we all had such
individual and personal taste.
368
00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:06,999
We could look at a rail
of clothes now and say,
369
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,708
Roger's gonna like that,
I'm gonna have that one,
370
00:19:09,709 --> 00:19:11,332
- John's gonna like that one.
- Yeah, you could do that.
371
00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:12,790
- Most of the band...
- You were pretty right
372
00:19:12,791 --> 00:19:14,499
because you knew
all their tastes
373
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:15,750
even better than I did.
374
00:19:18,959 --> 00:19:21,124
Any band,
if you think of anyone you...
375
00:19:21,125 --> 00:19:24,039
Anyone in history
that's worth remembering,
376
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,874
they all have an image.
377
00:19:25,875 --> 00:19:29,540
Elvis Presley, Madonna,
Prince, Duran Duran.
378
00:19:29,541 --> 00:19:31,750
They were Birmingham's peacocks.
379
00:19:34,625 --> 00:19:36,708
There was
this Smash Hits magazine,
380
00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:39,874
and suddenly nobody was reading
any of the weeklies anymore.
381
00:19:39,875 --> 00:19:41,958
There were these, like,
colored magazines
382
00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,289
that came out every week,
383
00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:44,582
and it was, like,
perfect for Duran.
384
00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:46,332
It was like,
"There's a John cover.
385
00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:48,708
It's a Roger cover.
It's Simon and Nick."
386
00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:50,374
There was like an explosion,
387
00:19:50,375 --> 00:19:52,916
and we made ourselves
very available to it.
388
00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:08,708
We went on tour
behind Planet Earth,
389
00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:10,207
and we played Nottingham,
390
00:20:10,208 --> 00:20:12,582
and that show was reviewed
in the NME,
391
00:20:12,583 --> 00:20:15,164
and it was the meanest review.
392
00:20:15,165 --> 00:20:17,582
"A Ripple in a Stagnant Pool"
was the headline.
393
00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,332
I can still remember it
to this day.
394
00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:22,082
And the last line in it was,
"Duran Duran are gonna be huge,
395
00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,082
and they really
don't deserve any of it."
396
00:20:24,083 --> 00:20:25,499
And I remember
reading that, thinking,
397
00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,289
"That's so mean. Why?"
398
00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:29,499
You know, like, "Why?"
399
00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,915
And then we kind of knew
that we were part of this,
400
00:20:32,916 --> 00:20:35,415
and that was probably
after the Smash Hits cover.
401
00:20:35,416 --> 00:20:36,749
And it was like,
402
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:39,249
so we were a threat
to that institution,
403
00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:41,164
and they weren't
gonna be nice to us,
404
00:20:41,165 --> 00:20:42,958
so we just had to swallow it.
405
00:20:42,959 --> 00:20:45,915
But the NME never, never...
406
00:20:45,916 --> 00:20:49,959
And it bothered me up until
about a year ago, I think.
407
00:20:52,208 --> 00:20:54,790
The first time I think that
408
00:20:54,791 --> 00:20:58,624
we recognized that something
different was happening
409
00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:01,749
was when out of nowhere...
It was like a movie set,
410
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:04,749
and we got completely mobbed.
411
00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:07,999
And we sensed that
something had changed.
412
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,290
I'm desperate to know
what it's like to be a pop star.
413
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,374
Do you think
it's all full of fast cars,
414
00:21:14,375 --> 00:21:16,164
fast women, fast living?
415
00:21:16,165 --> 00:21:18,332
Well, that's
probably part of it.
416
00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,458
-It is, yeah. But...
417
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:33,999
I love boats.
418
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,958
I do have a boat
a bit similar to this.
419
00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:39,375
It lives in a garage in Italy,
where she was built.
420
00:21:42,165 --> 00:21:44,415
I think living the life
was very much
421
00:21:44,416 --> 00:21:47,750
a sort of a part
of the rock star lifestyle.
422
00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,375
We were objects of desire.
423
00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:58,582
And people wanted to
424
00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:00,499
have us at their parties.
425
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,958
So there was a lot of that.
426
00:22:02,959 --> 00:22:04,790
♪ See them walking
hand in hand ♪
427
00:22:04,791 --> 00:22:08,000
♪ Across the bridge
at midnight... ♪
428
00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,289
Duran Duran were like...
It was glamorous.
429
00:22:11,290 --> 00:22:14,164
It was, like,
hot, beautiful locations,
430
00:22:14,165 --> 00:22:17,415
leggy blondes,
yachts and the limousines.
431
00:22:17,416 --> 00:22:19,374
It was aspirational, I think.
432
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:20,999
That's why I think
people liked it,
433
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
because it was like,
434
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,540
you can come from Birmingham,
435
00:22:23,541 --> 00:22:25,124
you can come from
southeast London,
436
00:22:25,125 --> 00:22:27,040
but you can still have
a glamorous life.
437
00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:34,958
I was just, like,
perpetually excited in 1981.
438
00:22:34,959 --> 00:22:37,874
I mean, it was like...
I don't think I slept all year.
439
00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:41,249
I mean, it was just...
It was just so much fun.
440
00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:44,540
It was just... just this
crazy adventure,
441
00:22:44,541 --> 00:22:46,541
and it never really stopped.
442
00:23:05,416 --> 00:23:07,082
It did become the album
443
00:23:07,083 --> 00:23:09,582
that was the most important
in launching our career.
444
00:23:09,583 --> 00:23:15,082
♪ You saw me standing
by the wall ♪
445
00:23:15,083 --> 00:23:17,958
♪ Corner of a main street... ♪
446
00:23:17,959 --> 00:23:20,415
I remember really being worried,
447
00:23:20,416 --> 00:23:21,999
just briefly,
448
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,124
that it wouldn't be
as good as the first album.
449
00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:28,833
And I used to lay in my bed
and listen to the album,
450
00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:32,749
and I rationed myself to
two entire listens a night
451
00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:34,624
because I didn't want
to wear it out.
452
00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:38,624
But I just loved it.
I thought it was so great.
453
00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:41,332
-♪ Don't say a prayer
454
00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,708
♪ For me now ♪
455
00:23:43,709 --> 00:23:47,000
♪ Save it
till the morning after... ♪
456
00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:50,915
Everyone has that record,
457
00:23:50,916 --> 00:23:53,457
and I think Rio was that record.
458
00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:55,708
It was the sort of thing
that seals the deal.
459
00:23:55,709 --> 00:23:57,708
I remember the sleeve.
460
00:23:57,709 --> 00:24:00,790
I remember hearing the songs
for the first time.
461
00:24:00,791 --> 00:24:02,665
And I think that Rio
was the album
462
00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:06,499
that established Duran Duran
as a kind of global super force,
463
00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,915
because it was like,
"Okay, they can write songs."
464
00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:12,124
Rio was like a masterstroke.
465
00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:13,958
The image on the cover
of that album
466
00:24:13,959 --> 00:24:17,499
so perfectly represents
467
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,665
the sounds in the music.
468
00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:21,499
Whether you're Bowie
or Kanye West,
469
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,750
it doesn't matter,
you're selling a fantasy.
470
00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:31,874
Here we have...
471
00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:35,332
the original Rio painting.
472
00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:38,332
Yes. Still smiling
after all these years.
473
00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:41,332
For our second album we thought,
474
00:24:41,333 --> 00:24:44,164
"Why don't we stick a beautiful
painting on the cover?"
475
00:24:44,165 --> 00:24:46,289
And actually,
476
00:24:46,290 --> 00:24:49,540
to the credit of Paul Berrow,
one of our managers at the time,
477
00:24:49,541 --> 00:24:53,039
who was an avid reader
of Playboy magazine,
478
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,457
um, he spotted these
beautiful illustrations
479
00:24:57,458 --> 00:25:00,708
done by a Californian artist
called Patrick Nagel
480
00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:04,540
and brought them and said,
"Chaps, do you like these?"
481
00:25:04,541 --> 00:25:06,874
And we looked and said,
"Actually, yeah."
482
00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:10,790
They've got a real energy
and a brightness,
483
00:25:10,791 --> 00:25:14,082
and they represented
the period so well,
484
00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,665
it's become a symbol
of that whole decade.
485
00:25:17,666 --> 00:25:20,124
But for us,
she's got a very lucky smile
486
00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:22,708
because that period was amazing,
and the Rio album
487
00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:25,625
was really what established us
around the world.
488
00:25:47,916 --> 00:25:51,415
This was the home
to Duran Duran in the '80s,
489
00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:53,833
when we were in Los Angeles.
490
00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:55,249
We've got all The Beatles here.
491
00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:58,082
We've got John, George,
492
00:25:58,083 --> 00:26:00,415
Ringo, and then Paul McCartney.
493
00:26:00,416 --> 00:26:02,164
I know I wouldn't
be standing here
494
00:26:02,165 --> 00:26:03,790
without those guys.
495
00:26:03,791 --> 00:26:06,249
Then we go on to Buddy Holly,
496
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:07,958
but then they probably
wouldn't be there
497
00:26:07,959 --> 00:26:10,082
without Buddy Holly,
so that's cool.
498
00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:13,708
Moving on. Tina Turner,
and Tina Turner's bicycle,
499
00:26:13,709 --> 00:26:15,624
which is a permanent show
here now.
500
00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,749
I'm getting a warm feeling.
501
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,290
Capitol Recording artists
Duran Duran.
502
00:26:21,666 --> 00:26:24,249
It's a big deal
in terms of, like,
503
00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,249
where you're from, I guess.
504
00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,124
I don't think many of my
schoolmates have got one.
505
00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:30,457
We got a lot of prizes
in the early '80s.
506
00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:32,374
I took them for granted.
I was like... you know.
507
00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:36,207
But as I've gotten older,
I've come to appreciate them,
508
00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:38,124
and display them, even.
509
00:26:38,125 --> 00:26:41,374
And I think to know
where you come in the evolution
510
00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:44,332
of, uh, popular music, you know,
511
00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,039
contemporary culture, you know,
that we've got a place...
512
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,959
We've got a place in that,
it feels good.
513
00:26:57,333 --> 00:27:00,039
They were such a seminal
band for me as a kid, you know.
514
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,207
Like, I really loved them.
They had great pop songs,
515
00:27:03,208 --> 00:27:04,833
great melody, great band.
516
00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:07,124
There's a reason that
they sold 18 million records.
517
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,249
They were just attuned
to writing
518
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,915
really universal, great songs.
519
00:27:12,916 --> 00:27:15,249
What's your first memory
of being in this building?
520
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,790
I'm not sure they ever
really knew what to do with us.
521
00:27:17,791 --> 00:27:20,624
EMI in London just kept
pressurizing Capitol
522
00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:24,624
into basically making more
effort to break the band,
523
00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:27,915
and it was really with Rio
that they said,
524
00:27:27,916 --> 00:27:29,833
"Look, you've got to
make this happen."
525
00:27:29,834 --> 00:27:31,833
To me, definitely
the first album
526
00:27:31,834 --> 00:27:34,665
had a lot of the seeds
of what became, like,
527
00:27:34,666 --> 00:27:37,374
the iconic early
Duran Duran sound,
528
00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,665
but Rio is probably...
And also just 'cause
529
00:27:40,666 --> 00:27:42,833
the level of songwriting
just went like this.
530
00:27:42,834 --> 00:27:44,874
Do you feel like Rio
is where you sort of forged
531
00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:46,999
- the Duran sound?
- Definitely.
532
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,790
It was a development
from the first...
533
00:27:49,791 --> 00:27:52,457
All the basic ideas...
I mean, you just nailed it,
534
00:27:52,458 --> 00:27:54,958
the funky rhythm section,
you know,
535
00:27:54,959 --> 00:27:58,082
sort of Moroder-esque
synths, you know,
536
00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,457
but also that kind of...
That chunky rock guitar.
537
00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,164
- Yeah, Steve Jones guitars.
- Yeah.
538
00:28:02,165 --> 00:28:04,540
And also, the other thing
is, like,
539
00:28:04,541 --> 00:28:08,374
probably because your whole,
you know, pin-ups
540
00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:10,249
and all this
kind of thing at first,
541
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:12,039
nobody really wanted
to give you credit
542
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,833
or the fact that everybody
was a great musician.
543
00:28:14,834 --> 00:28:18,415
I think for all the excitement
of the punk rock era,
544
00:28:18,416 --> 00:28:22,124
the post-punk era
was really exciting too,
545
00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:24,039
because you had kids saying,
"I want to be a bass player."
546
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,582
Roger and I were like,
"We wanna be a rhythm section."
547
00:28:26,583 --> 00:28:29,790
That sound, like, when I play
"The Chauffeur" in my head,
548
00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:32,749
that sound of Roger's drums
on top,
549
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:35,540
locked into the sequence
of whatever Nick was doing,
550
00:28:35,541 --> 00:28:38,249
and then you with that,
is such an important part.
551
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:39,833
I feel like "The Chauffeur,"
552
00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:41,082
sonically
and everything about it,
553
00:28:41,083 --> 00:28:42,582
if came out tomorrow
and you said,
554
00:28:42,583 --> 00:28:45,207
"Oh, this is
a new Killers tune,"
555
00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,582
you would believe it.
556
00:28:46,583 --> 00:28:49,874
♪ And watching lovers part ♪
557
00:28:49,875 --> 00:28:52,915
♪ I feel you smiling ♪
558
00:28:52,916 --> 00:28:58,374
♪ What glass splinters lie
so deep in your mind? ♪
559
00:28:58,375 --> 00:29:00,249
♪ To tear out
from your eyes ♪
560
00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:04,164
♪ With a thought to stiffen
brooding lies ♪
561
00:29:04,165 --> 00:29:08,457
♪ And I'll only watch you
leave me further behind... ♪
562
00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:11,749
When we first came to New York,
I remember our managers
563
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,039
meeting with these guys
564
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,624
that were putting MTV together,
and they were like,
565
00:29:16,625 --> 00:29:18,289
"Look, we can't play
'Stairway to Heaven' all day,
566
00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:20,289
"like what happens on the radio.
567
00:29:20,290 --> 00:29:22,124
"We need to get more
into new music,
568
00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:24,124
"and it'd be great if you could
give us something really
569
00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:26,082
kind of like
a James Bond film."
570
00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,124
- Right.
- And our manager went away,
571
00:29:28,125 --> 00:29:31,749
and that's where the Sri Lanka
video idea came from.
572
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,749
♪ In touch with the ground ♪
573
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:38,249
♪ I'm on the hunt
I'm after you ♪
574
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,874
♪ Smell like I sound
I'm lost in a crowd ♪
575
00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:45,958
♪ And I'm hungry
like the wolf... ♪
576
00:29:45,959 --> 00:29:51,124
MTV was, like, such a big part
of my teenage life.
577
00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:54,039
I mean, that's how
we got our music.
578
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,915
And I think Duran Duran
was such a perfect band
579
00:29:59,916 --> 00:30:01,915
for this new way
580
00:30:01,916 --> 00:30:06,124
that people were getting music,
which was through television.
581
00:30:06,125 --> 00:30:10,289
♪ Stalked in the forest
too close to hide ♪
582
00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:13,332
♪ I'll be upon you
by the moonlight side... ♪
583
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,164
They were really some of
the pioneers in music videos.
584
00:30:17,165 --> 00:30:19,582
That was just the age where
585
00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:22,289
we didn't know what to expect,
and anything could go.
586
00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:24,833
♪ And your skin
it's so tight ♪
587
00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:27,499
♪ You feel my heat
I'm just a moment behind... ♪
588
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,915
There was something
about it when we were there
589
00:30:29,916 --> 00:30:32,415
that we knew
that it was new ground.
590
00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:34,164
It was very exotic.
591
00:30:34,165 --> 00:30:36,833
And we were very lucky to have
Russell Mulcahy directing,
592
00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,874
because at that time,
he was the guy.
593
00:30:39,875 --> 00:30:42,207
He had just done "Vienna"
for Ultravox
594
00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:44,582
and all the coolest things
that were out there, really.
595
00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:46,457
♪ I'm lost and I'm found ♪
596
00:30:46,458 --> 00:30:50,457
♪ And I'm hungry
like the wolf... ♪
597
00:30:50,458 --> 00:30:51,958
With Duran, it was a bit
598
00:30:51,959 --> 00:30:54,039
like being a tourist
with a big camera.
599
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,582
♪ I howl and I whine
I'm after you... ♪
600
00:30:57,583 --> 00:30:59,665
I had very much
a cinematic vision,
601
00:30:59,666 --> 00:31:01,582
they had a vision
with their music,
602
00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:04,457
and the managers had a vision
about, "Let's make it big
603
00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:07,040
and-and stand out
from the rest."
604
00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:11,541
We just wanted to raise the bar.
605
00:31:12,709 --> 00:31:14,039
On first glance,
606
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,499
it looks like a guy
chasing a girl.
607
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,415
It's slightly uncomfortable,
actually.
608
00:31:19,416 --> 00:31:21,749
But it's us chasing our career,
609
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:25,164
trying to make it happen,
and we were so hungry.
610
00:31:25,165 --> 00:31:27,374
We would chase and we would grab
611
00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:29,082
and we would achieve.
612
00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,665
And that is what
that song's about.
613
00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:34,915
Then after that,
the travelogue continued,
614
00:31:34,916 --> 00:31:39,083
and hence we ended up doing
the "Rio" video in Antigua.
615
00:31:45,416 --> 00:31:47,624
That was wild.
I mean, we sort of...
616
00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:50,124
That one we actually
just made up on the spot.
617
00:31:50,125 --> 00:31:53,082
I would say in the morning,
"Okay, I need, um...
618
00:31:53,083 --> 00:31:54,665
"I need a mirror,
619
00:31:54,666 --> 00:31:57,666
I need a bed, I want
to put it on the beach."
620
00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:02,164
♪ Moving on the floor
now, babe ♪
621
00:32:02,165 --> 00:32:06,249
♪ You're a bird
of paradise ♪
622
00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:09,124
♪ Cherry ice cream smile ♪
623
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:12,082
♪ I suppose it's very nice... ♪
624
00:32:12,083 --> 00:32:14,124
The classic shot
eventually ended up being
625
00:32:14,125 --> 00:32:17,289
Simon at the front of the boat
with the boys hanging off,
626
00:32:17,290 --> 00:32:20,289
and the cameraman was sitting
at the top of the boat,
627
00:32:20,290 --> 00:32:22,457
on the... whatever you call it...
628
00:32:22,458 --> 00:32:25,164
With no harness, hand-held,
629
00:32:25,165 --> 00:32:28,082
hanging on to the thing
like that.
630
00:32:28,083 --> 00:32:29,708
Song blasting away,
631
00:32:29,709 --> 00:32:32,415
the boys were all in their
sort of tailored suits,
632
00:32:32,416 --> 00:32:35,039
very expensive suits,
getting splashed with seawater,
633
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,958
ruining the suits, of course,
and we just had a lot of fun.
634
00:32:38,959 --> 00:32:42,709
♪ Down to the Rio Grande... ♪
635
00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:49,665
The yacht was such
a powerful image.
636
00:32:49,666 --> 00:32:52,833
With us all with the colored
Antony Price suits,
637
00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:54,665
it really worked beautifully.
638
00:32:54,666 --> 00:32:58,833
♪ Doo-doo,
doo-doo-doo, doo-doo ♪
639
00:32:58,834 --> 00:33:01,416
♪ Doo-doo, doo-doo-doo,
doo-doo... ♪
640
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,499
Rio was a very hard record
to follow, in hindsight.
641
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,499
We made a classic album
with Rio.
642
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,039
And I think it was first time
that we really felt
643
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,916
the pressure of having to
follow something up.
644
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,874
The Ragged Tiger is that kind of
645
00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:37,583
dirty but incredible...
646
00:33:38,916 --> 00:33:41,374
charismatic animal
647
00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:44,582
that is success.
648
00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:48,541
♪ I knew this was
a big mistake... ♪
649
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,790
Hello, good evening,
650
00:33:53,791 --> 00:33:55,208
and welcome to our show.
651
00:34:01,834 --> 00:34:03,582
This is a dressing room,
652
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,332
and by the nature
of the word "dressing,"
653
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:07,289
it means everyone has to change,
so fuck off.
654
00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:09,373
What we really want to tell you
is we're gonna do this.
655
00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:10,500
Good night.
656
00:34:13,375 --> 00:34:16,833
The demands on us
had become absurd
657
00:34:16,833 --> 00:34:19,416
because I think a lot
of the business people
658
00:34:19,416 --> 00:34:21,123
had smelled the money
659
00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:23,373
everywhere that they
possibly could,
660
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,748
and they just wanted more
and more and more and more.
661
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:31,748
♪ The union of the snake
is on the climb... ♪
662
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,206
Our accountants were saying,
663
00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:34,666
"You can't stay in England
664
00:34:34,666 --> 00:34:36,248
because you're gonna pay
all this tax."
665
00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:39,248
So we decamped
to the South of France,
666
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,791
and we end up in this château
in the middle of nowhere.
667
00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:45,833
It was wonderful.
668
00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:47,958
The scenery was fantastic.
669
00:34:47,958 --> 00:34:49,998
And they had swimming pool
670
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,123
and tennis courts,
671
00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:55,289
and we didn't get
a lot of work done.
672
00:34:55,291 --> 00:34:56,623
I get up and...
673
00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,958
have a bath and a wee-wee.
674
00:34:58,958 --> 00:35:00,289
Have lunch.
675
00:35:00,291 --> 00:35:02,958
- Play a bit of tennis.
- And then I wake up.
676
00:35:02,958 --> 00:35:05,206
I mean, I was all
into the swimming pool
677
00:35:05,208 --> 00:35:06,456
and the tennis courts.
678
00:35:06,458 --> 00:35:10,791
John was bringing
his girls down.
679
00:35:10,791 --> 00:35:14,248
Andy was getting a bit high.
680
00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,581
John and Andy were funding
681
00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:20,623
South American countries
with their, uh...
682
00:35:20,625 --> 00:35:22,623
with their pocket money.
683
00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:24,748
They were up very, very,
very late at night,
684
00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,748
but not in the studio so much.
685
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,456
It was like, nobody was a saint
in that band.
686
00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,331
I mean, why would you be?
687
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,164
There's so much being served up,
688
00:35:33,166 --> 00:35:34,916
being offered to us.
689
00:35:34,916 --> 00:35:37,081
You've got drugs,
you've got alcohol...
690
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,998
You know, there's
a whole load of things.
691
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,581
It's a...
It's a minefield, really.
692
00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:45,081
And even in amongst
all of the fraternal
693
00:35:45,083 --> 00:35:46,791
kind of fun and games,
694
00:35:46,791 --> 00:35:48,331
there was loneliness as well.
695
00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:51,748
So, you know,
696
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,998
I don't think anybody relished
697
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,164
sleeping alone
if it could be avoided.
698
00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:59,748
♪ The reflex,
fle-fle-fle-fle-flex ♪
699
00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,164
♪ You've gone too far
this time ♪
700
00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,666
♪ But I'm dancing... ♪
701
00:36:04,666 --> 00:36:07,873
The tour for that album
702
00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,873
in '83-'84
703
00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:14,456
was the height of
everything coming together.
704
00:36:14,458 --> 00:36:17,748
All the insanity
from every single place
705
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:20,500
just came to meet us in America.
706
00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:25,791
We couldn't hear what we were
playing most of the time
707
00:36:25,791 --> 00:36:28,456
because the noise
of the audience
708
00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:30,998
was just overwhelming.
709
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,289
And they were all teenage girls,
710
00:36:32,291 --> 00:36:35,164
so it was all
this certain pitch.
711
00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:36,873
It was like hitting...
712
00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:39,373
very heavy weather
in an airplane.
713
00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,373
And we were just looking
at each other, going,
714
00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:43,623
"Whoa, whoa! Hang on! Hang on!"
715
00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:47,623
I have photograph
upon photograph
716
00:36:47,625 --> 00:36:50,331
of girls screaming and crying.
717
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:51,958
I wasn't prepared for the fact
718
00:36:51,958 --> 00:36:53,581
that it was
the Beatles, effectively.
719
00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:56,500
It was madness, carnage,
everywhere we went.
720
00:37:01,458 --> 00:37:05,081
We were hemmed into the hotels.
We couldn't move at that point.
721
00:37:05,083 --> 00:37:07,623
Every time you tried to leave
the hotel, there would be
722
00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:11,916
200 teenage girls
trying to rip you apart.
723
00:37:11,916 --> 00:37:15,248
♪ Finding treasure
in the dark ♪
724
00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:19,123
♪ And watching over
lucky clover ♪
725
00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:22,081
♪ Isn't that bizarre... ♪
726
00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:24,666
It's absolutely incredible.
There's tons of people here.
727
00:37:24,666 --> 00:37:26,916
I think there's about 2,000,
728
00:37:26,916 --> 00:37:29,123
3,000, four million,
you never know.
729
00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:31,748
Did you think they'd
have to bring in police horses
730
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:32,998
to keep the people quiet?
731
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,373
Have they got
police horses out there?
732
00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:35,916
Oh, God, where are they?
733
00:37:35,916 --> 00:37:37,416
The fans began to realize
734
00:37:37,416 --> 00:37:39,331
that all they had to do
was phone the top hotels,
735
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,873
wait for my name, then they'd
know where the band was staying.
736
00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,164
And I'd get the phone
call at 2:00 in the morning
737
00:37:44,166 --> 00:37:47,581
asking how John was,
or the fire alarm would go off
738
00:37:47,583 --> 00:37:50,164
and the whole hotel
then had to evacuate.
739
00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:53,873
And that's how fans
got to meet the band.
740
00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:57,123
♪ Who's waiting by the park ♪
741
00:37:57,125 --> 00:38:00,373
♪ The reflex
Is in charge of finding... ♪
742
00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:04,416
It was... wild.
743
00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:08,039
I had somebody
in a wardrobe in my room.
744
00:38:08,041 --> 00:38:09,833
I checked into my room,
745
00:38:09,833 --> 00:38:13,373
and I opened the wardrobe
when I was unpacking,
746
00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,456
and there was a girl in there.
747
00:38:16,458 --> 00:38:18,666
It was like losing
your virginity, you know.
748
00:38:18,666 --> 00:38:21,456
We were never the same again.
It was like... You know?
749
00:38:21,458 --> 00:38:26,708
♪ What a game,
he's hiding all the cards ♪
750
00:38:26,708 --> 00:38:30,333
♪ The reflex is
in charge of finding... ♪
751
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,498
I think by the end
of the U.S. tour,
752
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:39,331
we'd literally been
deep-fried daily
753
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:41,331
for months on end.
754
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:43,541
Of course, pettiness
755
00:38:43,541 --> 00:38:46,373
and misunderstandings
756
00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:49,331
had started to set in
within the band.
757
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:53,623
We really for the first time
had had enough of each other
758
00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:57,164
We all kind of went...
759
00:38:57,166 --> 00:38:59,581
John and Andy
760
00:38:59,583 --> 00:39:02,666
wanted to be more rock,
and they did Power Station.
761
00:39:02,666 --> 00:39:06,666
Me and Nick decided
we wanted to be more arty,
762
00:39:06,666 --> 00:39:08,998
and we started Arcadia.
763
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,791
Roger didn't know
which bloody camp
764
00:39:10,791 --> 00:39:12,833
to be in,
so he did a bit of both.
765
00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:14,248
It was kind of like two boats
766
00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,541
were sailing off
in different directions,
767
00:39:16,541 --> 00:39:18,916
and I kinda had
one leg on one boat
768
00:39:18,916 --> 00:39:20,416
and one leg on the other.
769
00:39:20,416 --> 00:39:23,164
And I got kinda stretched
in between, actually,
770
00:39:23,166 --> 00:39:25,039
which was a bit painful.
771
00:39:25,041 --> 00:39:27,206
I know you've been here all day,
772
00:39:27,208 --> 00:39:29,581
but if you've got
any energy left,
773
00:39:29,583 --> 00:39:32,998
we'd like to see you dancing!
774
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,666
When Bob Geldof calls you
and says, you know,
775
00:39:35,666 --> 00:39:37,541
"I'm doing this project.
776
00:39:37,541 --> 00:39:40,541
It's gonna save millions
of lives in Africa,"
777
00:39:40,541 --> 00:39:42,581
you can't say,
"No, we're on a break."
778
00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:45,791
When we got together
in Philadelphia,
779
00:39:45,791 --> 00:39:47,625
we were really in two camps.
780
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:55,666
The atmosphere
was completely toxic.
781
00:39:55,666 --> 00:39:59,416
Nobody wanted to be
together at that point.
782
00:39:59,416 --> 00:40:00,748
Which was quite sad, really,
783
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:02,916
because we'd been so close
a few years ago,
784
00:40:02,916 --> 00:40:05,541
and suddenly it was like
we could hardly bear
785
00:40:05,541 --> 00:40:08,331
to be in the same room
as each other.
786
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,581
Just got to the point
where I couldn't...
787
00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,541
I couldn't deal with it anymore.
788
00:40:12,541 --> 00:40:14,916
I got up every morning
789
00:40:14,916 --> 00:40:17,916
feeling unhappy
with what I was doing.
790
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:21,206
I was sensible enough
at the age of 25
791
00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:24,873
to think, you know, I'm gonna
walk away from this.
792
00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,416
I remember when Roger
left the band just thinking,
793
00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:30,164
"What a weird thing to do."
It just...
794
00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:33,123
Who leaves a band when
they're that successful?
795
00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:34,581
Because I sort of knew him.
796
00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:36,416
I just thought,
he's obviously gone mad.
797
00:40:36,416 --> 00:40:39,791
♪ The new moon on Monday ♪
798
00:40:39,791 --> 00:40:44,581
♪ And a fire dance
through the night ♪
799
00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:48,166
♪ I stayed the cold day... ♪
800
00:40:51,916 --> 00:40:54,625
♪ Notorious, notorious ♪
801
00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:01,166
♪ No-No, notorious... ♪
802
00:41:06,125 --> 00:41:08,581
We were fighting for our lives,
you know?
803
00:41:08,583 --> 00:41:11,289
Because the band
had had its moment.
804
00:41:11,291 --> 00:41:15,833
♪ I can't read about it... ♪
805
00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:18,833
We realized that
this was a real crisis.
806
00:41:18,833 --> 00:41:20,416
It was survival.
807
00:41:20,416 --> 00:41:24,331
♪ I'll do fine without it... ♪
808
00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:25,748
Andy kind of, you know,
809
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:28,039
dicked us around
for about six months, actually.
810
00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:30,998
We didn't know whether
he was coming or going.
811
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,998
Maybe he wasn't getting
his rocks off,
812
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,873
the music
wasn't speaking to him,
813
00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:37,416
he was getting frustrated
with the style of the music
814
00:41:37,416 --> 00:41:39,708
and the direction
the music was taking.
815
00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:43,623
The three of us came together
in such an insanely...
816
00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:45,873
Like, with our backs
to the wall...
817
00:41:45,875 --> 00:41:47,748
But it was so galvanizing.
818
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:49,581
The desire to prove ourselves
819
00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:53,039
was more powerful than
it had been at the beginning.
820
00:41:53,041 --> 00:41:56,708
Whereas we were in two camps
at Live Aid,
821
00:41:56,708 --> 00:41:58,039
six, eight months later,
822
00:41:58,041 --> 00:42:00,123
the three of us
were in a new camp,
823
00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:02,039
and it was our camp,
and it was the trio camp.
824
00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,456
♪ I heard you promise
but I don't believe it ♪
825
00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:06,123
♪ That's why I did it again... ♪
826
00:42:06,125 --> 00:42:09,541
So as things have always
seemed to happen with us,
827
00:42:09,541 --> 00:42:13,666
it was one door closed,
another door opened.
828
00:42:13,666 --> 00:42:15,748
And standing in that doorway
829
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,164
was Sir Nile of Rodgers,
830
00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:21,206
who came in and really oversaw
831
00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:23,248
the Notorious project.
832
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:25,748
As soon as we met each other,
833
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:28,416
it was...
834
00:42:28,416 --> 00:42:31,081
goddamn, like
love at first sight.
835
00:42:31,083 --> 00:42:34,164
We had so much fun.
We were making music
836
00:42:34,166 --> 00:42:36,416
the same way Chic makes music,
837
00:42:36,416 --> 00:42:39,289
the same way
Luther Vandross makes music.
838
00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,581
When you meet an artist,
839
00:42:42,583 --> 00:42:46,248
and there's that kind
of connection right away,
840
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:48,416
you know that big things
are gonna happen.
841
00:42:48,416 --> 00:42:49,791
Three, four...
842
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,456
He's fantastic to be around.
843
00:42:53,458 --> 00:42:55,289
He has a great energy,
844
00:42:55,291 --> 00:42:58,289
a joy, a joyfulness
about the way he plays
845
00:42:58,291 --> 00:43:01,250
and the way he approaches
songwriting and recording.
846
00:43:06,916 --> 00:43:09,248
That sounds like music
to me, man.
847
00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:11,791
When we'd finished it,
and we were all pretty pleased,
848
00:43:11,791 --> 00:43:15,123
we were just doing the mixes,
and we'd sent
849
00:43:15,125 --> 00:43:17,708
an almost complete version
to the record label,
850
00:43:17,708 --> 00:43:20,289
and they'd come back,
and they'd said,
851
00:43:20,291 --> 00:43:22,081
"Uh, we've got a problem.
852
00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:23,666
"We can't put this out.
853
00:43:23,666 --> 00:43:25,456
"It doesn't sound
like Duran Duran.
854
00:43:25,458 --> 00:43:27,289
It's-It's... Um...
855
00:43:27,291 --> 00:43:28,916
It's far too urban."
856
00:43:28,916 --> 00:43:31,373
But we just told them
we were changing direction,
857
00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:32,623
and that was that.
858
00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,039
I think they just saw the boat
859
00:43:34,041 --> 00:43:35,708
going the other way
down the river
860
00:43:35,708 --> 00:43:37,123
with all their money on it.
861
00:43:37,125 --> 00:43:40,123
When your record's
not as successful
862
00:43:40,125 --> 00:43:42,666
as the one before,
nobody wants to talk to you.
863
00:43:42,666 --> 00:43:44,791
The press don't want
to talk to you,
864
00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:46,998
the music press
aren't interested
865
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,373
because it's other things.
866
00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:50,623
"You can't get
on the radio because
867
00:43:50,625 --> 00:43:52,581
"you're old stuff, man.
You're old news.
868
00:43:52,583 --> 00:43:55,123
We've got new stuff
we're playing here on Radio 1."
869
00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:56,581
So you sit there
870
00:43:56,583 --> 00:43:59,998
in your business manager' office
in New York City,
871
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,998
looking at the pictures of all
the other acts he's working on
872
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,998
and talking about,
"What can we do to save this?
873
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,498
What can we do
to make it work?"
874
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,623
The first time it happens,
it's really scary,
875
00:44:12,625 --> 00:44:15,998
because you thought
it would carry on forever.
876
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,833
But it happens.
You get through it.
877
00:44:18,833 --> 00:44:22,498
And the next time it happens,
it's not so bad.
878
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,456
And the next time it happens,
it's not so bad.
879
00:44:25,458 --> 00:44:27,456
And then you just get
to a point where you think,
880
00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:28,581
"You know what?
881
00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,748
"Let's just relax
and do what we do.
882
00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:32,916
"Do we believe
in the music we make?
883
00:44:32,916 --> 00:44:34,541
"Yes, we do.
884
00:44:34,541 --> 00:44:36,416
"Can we go in
and write new stuff?
885
00:44:36,416 --> 00:44:38,123
"Have you still
got stuff inside you
886
00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:39,498
"that you want to say?
887
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,875
Yes, I have. Yes, we can."
And you do it.
888
00:44:43,541 --> 00:44:44,875
♪ Notorious ♪
889
00:44:46,125 --> 00:44:49,375
♪ No-No, Notorious ♪
890
00:45:03,541 --> 00:45:06,039
♪ Hey, child... ♪
891
00:45:06,041 --> 00:45:08,248
At that time,
we were looking to move
892
00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:09,998
into a new phase of the band
893
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,331
and what that band looked like.
894
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,916
We'd gotten away
from the early '80s,
895
00:45:12,916 --> 00:45:15,750
and we were looking to
sort of redefine ourselves.
896
00:45:17,333 --> 00:45:19,916
♪ Who do you need ♪
897
00:45:19,916 --> 00:45:23,416
♪ Who do you love ♪
898
00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:25,748
♪ When you come undone? ♪
899
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:28,081
We knew there was this guy,
Nick Egan,
900
00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:29,456
and he did lots of cool stuff.
901
00:45:29,458 --> 00:45:31,581
He's got that same interest
902
00:45:31,583 --> 00:45:34,748
in art and music and fashion.
903
00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:36,456
I've worked with the Clash,
904
00:45:36,458 --> 00:45:37,708
I've worked with Bob Dylan,
905
00:45:37,708 --> 00:45:39,081
I've worked with
Malcolm McLaren.
906
00:45:39,083 --> 00:45:41,581
My first cover I did
was for the Ramones.
907
00:45:41,583 --> 00:45:43,248
The greatest achievement
and the proudest achievement
908
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:46,039
of my working career is actually
working with Duran Duran,
909
00:45:46,041 --> 00:45:48,456
because I find the fact
they stay relevant
910
00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:50,456
and keep ahead of the game,
911
00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,666
there's not many bands
that can do that anymore.
912
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:54,791
I think Nick was really
important at that moment
913
00:45:54,791 --> 00:45:56,581
to help us realize
first the cover
914
00:45:56,583 --> 00:45:59,000
and then
the "Ordinary World" video.
915
00:46:13,458 --> 00:46:16,833
♪ Came in from
a rainy Thursday ♪
916
00:46:16,833 --> 00:46:20,541
♪ On the avenue ♪
917
00:46:20,541 --> 00:46:23,748
♪ Thought I heard you
talking softly... ♪
918
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:25,623
"Ordinary World,"
the song itself,
919
00:46:25,625 --> 00:46:27,873
the thing that was the catapult
back into phase two,
920
00:46:27,875 --> 00:46:29,456
if you like, when I heard it,
921
00:46:29,458 --> 00:46:31,331
I just thought,
"This is a hit record."
922
00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:34,081
And you don't often think that.
How did you guys feel as a band?
923
00:46:34,083 --> 00:46:37,541
We'd had the biggest flop
of our careers
924
00:46:37,541 --> 00:46:39,958
with the album before,
with Liberty.
925
00:46:39,958 --> 00:46:42,164
We were kind of
a bit lost, really,
926
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:44,998
but I remember hearing
"Ordinary World" on the radio
927
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,708
and thinking,
"Thank you, God."
928
00:46:47,708 --> 00:46:49,456
You know, that we'd just, like,
929
00:46:49,458 --> 00:46:51,708
we'd got a foot into
another decade, you know?
930
00:46:51,708 --> 00:46:53,916
'Cause we'd just had
a few years of, like,
931
00:46:53,916 --> 00:46:57,164
"'80s band, '80s band.
They're done. They're done."
932
00:46:57,166 --> 00:46:59,331
I think the success
of the single
933
00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:02,248
took an enormous amount
of pressure off us.
934
00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:05,039
So I think Simon's lyrics
were fantastic on that.
935
00:47:05,041 --> 00:47:07,373
Most of Simon's lyrics
from the early albums
936
00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:09,666
are kind of quite oblique.
937
00:47:09,666 --> 00:47:11,331
You're not quite sure
what they are.
938
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:12,666
That's what makes them
so interesting.
939
00:47:12,666 --> 00:47:15,206
But it kind of felt
at this point like,
940
00:47:15,208 --> 00:47:18,581
maybe we just need to start
writing songs about emotions
941
00:47:18,583 --> 00:47:22,248
and-and, uh, and see
how that works out.
942
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:26,039
♪ But I won't cry
for yesterday ♪
943
00:47:26,041 --> 00:47:29,708
♪ There's an ordinary world ♪
944
00:47:29,708 --> 00:47:33,708
♪ Somehow I have to find... ♪
945
00:47:33,708 --> 00:47:36,748
"Ordinary World" is a song
946
00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,833
about trying to get over
947
00:47:39,833 --> 00:47:44,081
the death of a best friend.
948
00:47:44,083 --> 00:47:47,958
And putting it in words
freed me, absolutely.
949
00:47:47,958 --> 00:47:53,081
It really worked for me
emotionally and mentally.
950
00:47:53,083 --> 00:47:54,541
Everybody who heard it
951
00:47:54,541 --> 00:47:56,708
could apply it to something
in their life,
952
00:47:56,708 --> 00:47:59,248
and it meant something to them,
953
00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:01,081
but for a totally
different reason.
954
00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:04,748
And it became such
an important song for us.
955
00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:08,416
And I think it only had
that power to touch people
956
00:48:08,416 --> 00:48:11,081
because it meant so much to me.
957
00:48:11,083 --> 00:48:12,416
♪ In my world ♪
958
00:48:12,416 --> 00:48:16,583
♪ I will learn to survive... ♪
959
00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,666
♪ I put my hand ♪
960
00:48:30,666 --> 00:48:34,206
♪ Into the flame ♪
961
00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:37,833
♪ Burning but
I feel no pain... ♪
962
00:48:37,833 --> 00:48:40,289
We get Andy Taylor back
as well tonight.
963
00:48:40,291 --> 00:48:45,039
- ♪ Don't speak my name ♪
964
00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:47,039
♪ Hold onto... ♪
965
00:48:47,041 --> 00:48:48,958
I was talking to somebody
this morning,
966
00:48:48,958 --> 00:48:51,333
and they thought we got back
together to party...
967
00:48:52,458 --> 00:48:54,416
or find another wife
or whatever, but...
968
00:48:57,833 --> 00:48:59,748
Fuckin' rockin' show, dude.
969
00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:01,373
Simon, the way
you came in the crowd,
970
00:49:01,375 --> 00:49:03,500
I just wanted to
lick you all over.
971
00:49:04,791 --> 00:49:08,123
People have been asking us
for 20 years by then,
972
00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:11,456
"When are you ever gonna put the
original band back together?"
973
00:49:11,458 --> 00:49:14,498
And we didn't know
that we would,
974
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:16,750
but nobody had ever
ruled it out.
975
00:49:26,625 --> 00:49:28,373
I just thought,
976
00:49:28,375 --> 00:49:29,958
if we ever
get a ball near a pocket,
977
00:49:29,958 --> 00:49:32,500
this massive cheer's
gonna go up.
978
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:37,833
♪ 'Cause where I stop
that's where you begin... ♪
979
00:49:37,833 --> 00:49:40,581
Apparently, it was 18 years
980
00:49:40,583 --> 00:49:42,708
- Wow.
- In between...
981
00:49:42,708 --> 00:49:45,373
the last show that we were all
on stage together
982
00:49:45,375 --> 00:49:49,248
and the first show
of the Astronaut project.
983
00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:50,748
It was a gamble,
984
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:52,373
but we didn't have
a record company,
985
00:49:52,375 --> 00:49:54,164
and we didn't have a manager.
986
00:49:54,166 --> 00:49:58,125
I think we went in pretty much
with nothing to lose.
987
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,373
We've got this super hooky vocal
on the chorus.
988
00:50:08,375 --> 00:50:11,208
-To D-minor.
989
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:15,625
Down.
990
00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:24,581
- ♪ Does anybody know? ♪
- I like that bit.
991
00:50:24,583 --> 00:50:25,916
What's that chord?
992
00:50:25,916 --> 00:50:27,958
It wasn't gonna be all about
993
00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:29,498
what happened in 1983.
994
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,750
This was gonna be about
what we could do now.
995
00:50:34,125 --> 00:50:36,750
So, play it... play it
from that first chord.
996
00:50:38,916 --> 00:50:42,708
But I've gotta say, getting
the different personalities
997
00:50:42,708 --> 00:50:44,416
to work again
998
00:50:44,416 --> 00:50:47,039
was probably more challenging
than the music, I think.
999
00:50:47,041 --> 00:50:48,873
That was the tough part.
1000
00:50:48,875 --> 00:50:52,708
Okay, clear the room, please.
Including you. Out.
1001
00:50:52,708 --> 00:50:54,873
You guys sang it differently.
1002
00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:56,248
- No, we didn't.
- Yeah, you did.
1003
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:58,791
Absolutely, you did.
And we all noticed it.
1004
00:50:58,791 --> 00:51:00,416
You sang it... It was exac...
1005
00:51:00,416 --> 00:51:01,791
It was exactly the conversation
1006
00:51:01,791 --> 00:51:03,666
that we were having
in sound check.
1007
00:51:03,666 --> 00:51:04,873
You said that before,
1008
00:51:04,875 --> 00:51:07,456
but I can't figure out
what you mean.
1009
00:51:07,458 --> 00:51:10,373
You go to the last...
1010
00:51:10,375 --> 00:51:13,123
No, no. You're wrong.
You are wrong.
1011
00:51:13,125 --> 00:51:14,748
I don't think ever
1012
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:18,373
was there a
more important "Lights!"
1013
00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:23,081
than that first show in Osaka
on the reunion tour.
1014
00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:24,541
Because that was the ultimate
1015
00:51:24,541 --> 00:51:27,250
"Shut the fuck up
and play your guitars."
1016
00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,081
And that was really what
we needed, because then,
1017
00:51:41,083 --> 00:51:43,791
all the politics just
"doof, schtum."
1018
00:51:43,791 --> 00:51:46,791
And then we go out and play,
and we remind each other,
1019
00:51:46,791 --> 00:51:50,206
"When we do this together,
this is what we get."
1020
00:51:50,208 --> 00:51:53,456
♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪
1021
00:51:53,458 --> 00:51:58,039
♪ Put your hands
into the big sky ♪
1022
00:51:58,041 --> 00:52:01,289
♪ You can touch the sunrise ♪
1023
00:52:01,291 --> 00:52:05,873
♪ Feel the new day
enter your life ♪
1024
00:52:05,875 --> 00:52:08,623
♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪
1025
00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:12,373
♪ Put your hands
into the big sky... ♪
1026
00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:14,206
After the Budokan shows,
1027
00:52:14,208 --> 00:52:17,708
we decided to do a tour
to support Astronaut,
1028
00:52:17,708 --> 00:52:19,791
and I think it was planned to be
1029
00:52:19,791 --> 00:52:21,248
about three to six months,
1030
00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:24,041
but in reality ended up
being around two years.
1031
00:52:27,708 --> 00:52:29,331
Tomorrow night
we'll do like tonight.
1032
00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:30,873
Tonight we'll do
like last night.
1033
00:52:30,875 --> 00:52:33,039
And tomorrow we'll do
like the night before.
1034
00:52:33,041 --> 00:52:34,833
We've got to shorten
"The Reflex."
1035
00:52:34,833 --> 00:52:38,123
Second show,
"Tiger Tiger's" out. Right?
1036
00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:40,123
What do we play
"Bedroom Toys" instead of?
1037
00:52:40,125 --> 00:52:41,916
We want to play that next
to "Notorious," don't we?
1038
00:52:41,916 --> 00:52:44,333
We could play "Night Boat,"
then "Chauffeur."
1039
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,456
♪ Her name is Rio ♪
1040
00:52:51,458 --> 00:52:54,416
♪ And she dances
in the sand ♪
1041
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:59,039
Hey, that was a great...
1042
00:52:59,041 --> 00:53:02,708
I'm feeling
job insecurity, Bill.
1043
00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:05,581
The last time
we were at the wheel,
1044
00:53:05,583 --> 00:53:06,708
we just drove it off the cliff.
1045
00:53:06,708 --> 00:53:08,373
And this time, you know,
1046
00:53:08,375 --> 00:53:10,081
wanting to make sure
that doesn't happen again.
1047
00:53:10,083 --> 00:53:12,289
I mean, we're all
quite driven now.
1048
00:53:12,291 --> 00:53:15,164
I think what the time did
was that it...
1049
00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:18,873
We all dug back in our
relationships with each other
1050
00:53:18,875 --> 00:53:21,123
and our feelings
for the band, you know.
1051
00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,958
I love you.
1052
00:53:25,416 --> 00:53:28,833
- That was worth the work.
- That was worth a year.
1053
00:53:28,833 --> 00:53:30,873
It was like, everything was set.
1054
00:53:30,875 --> 00:53:32,164
You know what?
1055
00:53:32,166 --> 00:53:33,791
Not a moment too fuckin' soon.
1056
00:53:33,791 --> 00:53:36,456
All the British gigs,
all the gigs we've done.
1057
00:53:36,458 --> 00:53:37,916
You know, to get it here:
1058
00:53:37,916 --> 00:53:40,666
just press the "on" button.
Boom!
1059
00:53:40,666 --> 00:53:43,666
- Aren't we smug?
- Yeah, right!
1060
00:53:44,916 --> 00:53:46,416
I hit a horrific bum note
1061
00:53:46,416 --> 00:53:48,666
on the guitar in "Astronaut."
1062
00:53:48,666 --> 00:53:51,248
Oh, someone had to
spoil it, didn't they?
1063
00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:53,331
Just when you thought
it was perfect.
1064
00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:56,248
♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop
bop, bop, bop, bop ♪
1065
00:53:56,250 --> 00:53:58,666
♪ Calling Planet Earth ♪
1066
00:53:58,666 --> 00:54:01,541
♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop
bop, bop, bop, bop... ♪
1067
00:54:01,541 --> 00:54:03,541
This is Planet...
1068
00:54:05,875 --> 00:54:08,666
And then we started
a pretty good two-year run
1069
00:54:08,666 --> 00:54:10,081
of working together.
1070
00:54:10,083 --> 00:54:11,708
It was difficult, though,
you know,
1071
00:54:11,708 --> 00:54:14,331
because everybody had
had a different experience
1072
00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:17,039
and was carrying
different stuff, baggage.
1073
00:54:17,041 --> 00:54:19,331
There was different things
in everybody's suitcases,
1074
00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:21,623
and honestly, I really
didn't want to know
1075
00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:23,039
what was going on,
1076
00:54:23,041 --> 00:54:24,998
but it would just come out.
1077
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,748
It's a really big one
for the fans.
1078
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:28,456
- It's a very exciting tour.
- Yes, it is.
1079
00:54:28,458 --> 00:54:30,206
Roger and I were
just saying that we thought...
1080
00:54:30,208 --> 00:54:31,998
You watched the reaction
plummet.
1081
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,373
Are you joking?
1082
00:54:33,375 --> 00:54:37,373
The front three, four rows.
Watch all the way back.
1083
00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:38,916
They just went...
1084
00:54:38,916 --> 00:54:41,164
You're telling me you
can see people at the back?
1085
00:54:41,166 --> 00:54:43,541
- Of course I can.
- Bullshit.
1086
00:54:49,208 --> 00:54:52,039
This is really when
it all started going wrong
1087
00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:54,289
for Andy on that project.
1088
00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:57,748
I remember just seeing
how much he put into a show,
1089
00:54:57,750 --> 00:55:00,873
or rather, how much
it took out of him.
1090
00:55:00,875 --> 00:55:02,833
Andy was all or nothing.
1091
00:55:02,833 --> 00:55:04,248
You kind of knew
1092
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:05,998
that he wouldn't be able
to keep it up.
1093
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,416
If I don't come off,
and I haven't had a good show
1094
00:55:08,416 --> 00:55:11,456
or I haven't got enough,
I'm a bit burnt,
1095
00:55:11,458 --> 00:55:13,748
I get a bit dark
after 10 weeks on tour.
1096
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:17,248
I'm a performer,
first and foremost,
1097
00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,289
and anything else for me
1098
00:55:19,291 --> 00:55:21,123
is a secondary incident in life.
1099
00:55:21,125 --> 00:55:23,206
I think he really missed
his family, as well.
1100
00:55:23,208 --> 00:55:27,498
Andy was, and still is,
a real family man.
1101
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,833
When you're younger,
you don't have a home to call.
1102
00:55:30,833 --> 00:55:33,331
When you're our age,
1103
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:35,998
home isn't just a house,
it's a...
1104
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,958
It's a family,
it's your children.
1105
00:55:37,958 --> 00:55:40,708
And so you can get stretched
very thinly,
1106
00:55:40,708 --> 00:55:44,331
and those stresses can
also take their toll.
1107
00:55:44,333 --> 00:55:46,666
You can get very homesick,
in a nutshell.
1108
00:55:46,666 --> 00:55:49,039
We wanted to do everything.
1109
00:55:49,041 --> 00:55:53,164
We wanted to do more work
and more shows,
1110
00:55:53,166 --> 00:55:54,873
and we were happy
1111
00:55:54,875 --> 00:55:57,998
with the way that
the management was working,
1112
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,039
and Andy wasn't.
1113
00:56:00,041 --> 00:56:01,748
It's like one of those
rat wheels, isn't it?
1114
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,748
And you just gotta be
King Rat sometimes
1115
00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:06,875
and say, "Bollocks.
I'm jumping off."
1116
00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:15,873
And finally, the guitarist
with the pop group Duran Duran
1117
00:56:15,875 --> 00:56:18,873
has left the band
halfway through a world tour.
1118
00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:21,206
Andy Taylor, one of
the original members,
1119
00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:22,916
rejoined the lineup
five years ago,
1120
00:56:22,916 --> 00:56:24,833
after a 15-year absence.
1121
00:56:24,833 --> 00:56:26,164
The rest of the band
1122
00:56:26,166 --> 00:56:27,873
has described
the relationship with him
1123
00:56:27,875 --> 00:56:30,791
as "unworkable" and one
which couldn't be resolved.
1124
00:56:49,291 --> 00:56:51,164
♪ Steppin' out
steppin' out ♪
1125
00:56:51,166 --> 00:56:53,456
♪ Steppin' out
and jumpin' up and ♪
1126
00:56:53,458 --> 00:56:55,416
♪ Steppin' out
steppin' out ♪
1127
00:56:55,416 --> 00:56:57,289
♪ Steppin' out
and jumpin' up and ♪
1128
00:56:57,291 --> 00:56:59,416
♪ Steppin' out
Steppin' out ♪
1129
00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:01,541
♪ Steppin' out
and jumpin' up... ♪
1130
00:57:01,541 --> 00:57:05,623
We haven't been on Radio 1
for decades,
1131
00:57:05,625 --> 00:57:07,623
and we do another album
1132
00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:10,289
with Nile Rodgers,
with Mark Ronson,
1133
00:57:10,291 --> 00:57:13,373
Ben Hudson, and it goes top-10.
1134
00:57:13,375 --> 00:57:14,998
It's extraordinary.
1135
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,416
♪ Everybody everywhere ♪
1136
00:57:17,416 --> 00:57:20,164
♪ Feel it in the air
oh, yeah ♪
1137
00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:23,164
♪ It's time to take
the pressure off ♪
1138
00:57:23,166 --> 00:57:25,123
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1139
00:57:25,125 --> 00:57:27,123
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh,
it's up to you.... ♪
1140
00:57:27,125 --> 00:57:30,081
And it was just such
an uplifting experience.
1141
00:57:30,083 --> 00:57:33,791
When you see Nile playing his
guitar like that and grinning,
1142
00:57:33,791 --> 00:57:35,873
there's nothing quite
like it in the world.
1143
00:57:35,875 --> 00:57:39,331
♪ It's up you, girl, it's time
to take the pressure off... ♪
1144
00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:40,498
The four of us have
1145
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,206
this extraordinary belief
in ourselves.
1146
00:57:42,208 --> 00:57:45,373
You know, we still believe we've
got important music to make.
1147
00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:47,833
You know, when everybody else
is going, "Pfft! They're done!"
1148
00:57:47,833 --> 00:57:50,123
You know?
And we... we have this sense
1149
00:57:50,125 --> 00:57:52,958
that there's a...
That staying together...
1150
00:57:52,958 --> 00:57:56,666
'Cause we've all worked
apart from each other.
1151
00:57:56,666 --> 00:57:58,373
We all tried that.
1152
00:57:58,375 --> 00:58:00,998
Eh. You know.
There's something that we have
1153
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,791
when we're together
that's worth showing up for.
1154
00:58:03,791 --> 00:58:05,916
We accept, um,
1155
00:58:05,916 --> 00:58:09,123
who we are as people now,
who we've grown into,
1156
00:58:09,125 --> 00:58:14,791
including everybody's
faults and quirks.
1157
00:58:14,791 --> 00:58:16,456
I don't even know what's...
1158
00:58:16,458 --> 00:58:18,498
I don't know what's
in the future for us.
1159
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:20,666
You know, I just know
it'll be interesting.
1160
00:58:20,666 --> 00:58:25,331
- ♪ Oh ♪
- ♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪
1161
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:29,373
♪ In a world
that is paper thin ♪
1162
00:58:29,375 --> 00:58:31,708
♪ The fools in town... ♪
1163
00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:35,123
Getting to a 14th album is
a milestone. That's a moment.
1164
00:58:35,125 --> 00:58:37,123
It's not something
you even think about doing
1165
00:58:37,125 --> 00:58:39,039
when you start your career.
1166
00:58:39,041 --> 00:58:42,081
Think about anyone now
who's gonna make a 14th album.
1167
00:58:42,083 --> 00:58:43,748
On one hand.
1168
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:45,708
Maybe not. One finger.
1169
00:58:48,833 --> 00:58:52,039
I actually think we've
proved the detractors wrong
1170
00:58:52,041 --> 00:58:53,791
in the last decade.
1171
00:58:53,791 --> 00:58:56,331
The fact that we're still here
1172
00:58:56,333 --> 00:58:58,958
40 years after we started,
1173
00:58:58,958 --> 00:59:01,750
that... that's the real proof.
1174
00:59:02,875 --> 00:59:05,998
♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪
1175
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,791
♪ In a world
that is paper thin ♪
1176
00:59:09,791 --> 00:59:13,916
♪ The fools in town ♪
1177
00:59:13,916 --> 00:59:17,125
♪ Are ruling now ♪
1178
00:59:19,125 --> 00:59:23,081
♪ Bleeding from paper cuts ♪
1179
00:59:23,083 --> 00:59:26,456
♪ From money for head shots ♪
1180
00:59:26,458 --> 00:59:29,416
♪ Fools leading ♪
1181
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,250
♪ Who needs it? ♪
1182
00:59:34,916 --> 00:59:37,206
- Yes!
- Yes!
1183
00:59:37,208 --> 00:59:40,250
- Charlie's first pot!
- Finally! Well done!
91020
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