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I thought, 12 00:01:17,332 --> 00:01:19,748 "She's definitely not wearing any underwear now." 13 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:21,957 ♪ Girls on film... ♪ 14 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,581 Every time you tried to move, 15 00:01:23,582 --> 00:01:26,542 there would be 200 teenage girls trying to rip you apart. 16 00:01:29,625 --> 00:01:31,790 Duran Duran is my life. 17 00:01:31,792 --> 00:01:34,540 Waiting for them outside of BBC... 18 00:01:34,542 --> 00:01:37,125 They never noticed me. 19 00:01:38,625 --> 00:01:41,123 Nobody really wanted to give you credit for the fact 20 00:01:41,125 --> 00:01:43,957 that everybody was a great musician. 21 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,123 I feel like Duran Duran is my second band. 22 00:01:47,125 --> 00:01:48,790 ♪ Her name is Rio... ♪ 23 00:01:48,792 --> 00:01:52,081 The demands on us had become absurd. 24 00:01:52,082 --> 00:01:54,456 It's like one of those rat wheels isn't it? 25 00:01:54,457 --> 00:01:57,456 And you just gotta be King Rat sometimes and say, 26 00:01:57,457 --> 00:01:59,331 "Bollocks. I'm jumping off." 27 00:01:59,332 --> 00:02:01,415 The atmosphere was completely toxic. 28 00:02:01,417 --> 00:02:03,123 We'd just had a few years of, 29 00:02:03,125 --> 00:02:04,873 like, "'80s band, '80s band." 30 00:02:04,875 --> 00:02:07,206 I think they just saw the boat going the other way 31 00:02:07,207 --> 00:02:10,748 down the river with all their money on it. 32 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:13,998 Imagine to be in a band like Duran Duran 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,998 and have the career that they've had. 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,331 That's, like, the ultimate dream. 35 00:02:18,332 --> 00:02:21,207 ♪ No-No-Notorious... ♪ 36 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:40,707 For me, all of our albums 37 00:02:40,709 --> 00:02:43,665 define different stages in our career. 38 00:02:43,667 --> 00:02:46,375 The first album was our game plan. 39 00:02:47,875 --> 00:02:50,248 ♪ Only came outside ♪ 40 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:53,290 ♪ To watch the night fall with the rain... ♪ 41 00:02:55,917 --> 00:02:57,748 The way we are on that first album, 42 00:02:57,750 --> 00:03:00,540 we're all playing the best that we could play, 43 00:03:00,542 --> 00:03:02,957 and we're all just playing every note we know. 44 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:08,206 ♪ Some New Romantic looking for the TV sound... ♪ 45 00:03:08,207 --> 00:03:12,206 "Planet Earth" was the energy of rock music and punk, 46 00:03:12,207 --> 00:03:14,331 and strong melody. 47 00:03:14,332 --> 00:03:15,707 We all loved melodies, 48 00:03:15,709 --> 00:03:17,790 good songs, that was what it was about. 49 00:03:17,792 --> 00:03:20,375 ♪ Look now, look all around ♪ 50 00:03:22,250 --> 00:03:24,373 ♪ There's no sign of life ♪ 51 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:27,750 ♪ Voices, another sound ♪ 52 00:03:29,457 --> 00:03:32,750 ♪ Can you hear me now? ♪ 53 00:03:34,750 --> 00:03:37,165 - Ooh, it smells old. - Jesus! 54 00:03:39,082 --> 00:03:40,500 The Decrepids. 55 00:03:43,165 --> 00:03:45,039 Oh... Oh, come on, Rodge. 56 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,373 Come on. Let's get cozy. 57 00:03:46,375 --> 00:03:49,373 - Snuggle up in the back. - Put your seat belt on. 58 00:03:49,375 --> 00:03:51,415 Well, if you're driving, I will. 59 00:03:51,417 --> 00:03:53,581 - He's actually driving it? - Oh, no. 60 00:03:53,582 --> 00:03:54,998 That's what I said. 61 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,373 I'm in the danger seat. You're fine there. 62 00:03:57,375 --> 00:04:00,373 So it appears that in here... 63 00:04:00,375 --> 00:04:01,915 our very first demo, 64 00:04:01,917 --> 00:04:04,917 in Birmingham, for our first album. 65 00:04:06,917 --> 00:04:09,623 - It's "Faster Than Light." - It is. 66 00:04:09,625 --> 00:04:10,792 Oh, wow. 67 00:04:15,709 --> 00:04:17,707 - ♪ The light ♪ - ♪ Faster than light ♪ 68 00:04:17,709 --> 00:04:21,165 - ♪ The light ♪ - ♪ Faster than light... ♪ 69 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,707 I think the last time we were in a Citroen was probably, 70 00:04:26,709 --> 00:04:31,331 together, maybe 1982? 71 00:04:31,332 --> 00:04:33,665 I don't know how we came across the first Citroen, 72 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:36,290 but it was, like, the perfect car for Duran Duran. 73 00:04:36,290 --> 00:04:39,832 It was super fast and it was super comfortable. 74 00:04:39,834 --> 00:04:42,040 I don't remember where we got the first one from. 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,540 - We bought the second one. - Buying the second one 76 00:04:44,542 --> 00:04:47,499 was a major commitment to success. 77 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,124 We don't know what else is on here. 78 00:04:49,125 --> 00:04:50,500 Let's have a look. 79 00:04:56,332 --> 00:04:58,875 - Andy's playing was... - The car's shaking. 80 00:05:00,416 --> 00:05:03,499 Andy's playing was very economical, wasn't it? 81 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,331 Oh, yeah, but that was so great. 82 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:08,834 - He played essential guitar. - Yeah. 83 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,040 That's a loud vocal. Wow. 84 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,499 I hate... The vocal's horrible. 85 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:17,874 - It's so loud. - Horrible vocal! 86 00:05:17,875 --> 00:05:19,709 Stop it! 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,499 White riot, I wanna riot ♪ 88 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:31,165 ♪ White riot, a riot of our own... ♪ 89 00:05:31,165 --> 00:05:32,332 Aah! 90 00:05:36,125 --> 00:05:38,707 We really became brothers. 91 00:05:38,709 --> 00:05:42,249 We were both single kids. We didn't have any siblings. 92 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:44,874 We lived a few hundred meters away from each other 93 00:05:44,875 --> 00:05:47,415 in Hollywood, Birmingham. 94 00:05:47,417 --> 00:05:50,665 There was a lot of other kids at school that loved music. 95 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:53,582 But not as much as we did. Or that's what we thought. 96 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,874 Blondie, Talking Heads, 97 00:06:02,875 --> 00:06:05,790 Patti Smith, Roxy Music... 98 00:06:05,791 --> 00:06:07,708 we saw lots and lots of times. 99 00:06:07,709 --> 00:06:10,958 I took John to his first concert. 100 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:14,165 It was in April 1974, 101 00:06:14,165 --> 00:06:16,581 and it was actually Mick Ronson. 102 00:06:16,582 --> 00:06:20,749 And it cost us £1.35 each. 103 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:21,999 Every time we went to a show, 104 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,081 John and I used to count the trucks 105 00:06:24,082 --> 00:06:26,915 outside at the back of the show and figure out 106 00:06:26,917 --> 00:06:30,206 how many lights they had and how much sound, and think 107 00:06:30,207 --> 00:06:33,125 how many we needed to make what we were gonna do happen. 108 00:06:38,750 --> 00:06:40,999 My dad was a manual worker. 109 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,749 My dad worked at the Rover. 110 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:45,331 So it was very much expected 111 00:06:45,332 --> 00:06:47,917 that I would remain a manual worker. 112 00:06:50,457 --> 00:06:52,581 I didn't think it was a great way of life. 113 00:06:52,582 --> 00:06:54,206 I wanted to do something different. 114 00:06:54,207 --> 00:06:56,917 I had this dream of being in a band. 115 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:01,665 Birmingham was a very small world in those days, 116 00:07:01,666 --> 00:07:04,624 and anybody who was kind of any good, 117 00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:06,958 you know, you'd hear about. 118 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:10,915 So I think that John and Nick had heard about me, 119 00:07:10,916 --> 00:07:12,875 and I'd heard about Duran Duran. 120 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:16,665 We were rehearsing at this... 121 00:07:16,667 --> 00:07:19,165 this squat in Cheapside. 122 00:07:19,165 --> 00:07:20,290 It was kind of like 123 00:07:20,290 --> 00:07:21,957 the armpit of Birmingham down here. 124 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:24,165 This is really, it's the spiritual home 125 00:07:24,165 --> 00:07:26,832 of Duran Duran right here. 126 00:07:26,834 --> 00:07:29,124 Roger is the most likable person 127 00:07:29,125 --> 00:07:30,665 you'll ever meet in this business. 128 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:33,456 You know, and right away we clicked. 129 00:07:33,457 --> 00:07:36,999 Just set my drums up and started jamming, 130 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,665 and they said, "Come back next week," 131 00:07:39,667 --> 00:07:41,999 so I must have got the gig, you know. 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,832 So this is really my moment, 133 00:07:44,834 --> 00:07:47,082 is just walking through that door right there. 134 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,207 ♪ Outside ♪ 135 00:07:55,417 --> 00:07:57,665 ♪ Is there anyone out there? ♪ 136 00:07:57,667 --> 00:08:02,165 At 19 years old, it was like walking into a space rocket. 137 00:08:02,165 --> 00:08:03,581 It took me all over the world, 138 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:05,708 and kind of everything that I have, 139 00:08:05,709 --> 00:08:08,581 really, that's good in life 140 00:08:08,583 --> 00:08:11,206 is a result of walking through that... 141 00:08:11,208 --> 00:08:13,581 through that door there. 142 00:08:13,583 --> 00:08:15,456 ♪ Look out of the window ♪ 143 00:08:15,458 --> 00:08:18,331 ♪ Baby, you can call by my name... ♪ 144 00:08:18,332 --> 00:08:20,290 Birmingham at that time 145 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:22,456 might as well have been the center of the world. 146 00:08:22,457 --> 00:08:23,790 I don't feel like... 147 00:08:23,792 --> 00:08:25,206 It was the center of our world, wasn't it? 148 00:08:25,207 --> 00:08:26,624 I don't feel like we ever thought, 149 00:08:26,625 --> 00:08:28,457 "Oh, man, I wish we lived in London." 150 00:08:35,917 --> 00:08:38,540 The Rum Runner was like the sort of premier 151 00:08:38,542 --> 00:08:39,915 New Romantic club 152 00:08:39,917 --> 00:08:41,874 in Birmingham where everybody went. 153 00:08:41,875 --> 00:08:44,164 It had this really big kind of entrance 154 00:08:44,165 --> 00:08:47,875 that was like a big corridor that was almost like a catwalk. 155 00:08:48,917 --> 00:08:50,915 It really was just about showing off. 156 00:08:50,917 --> 00:08:54,081 It was about going out, getting your photo taken. 157 00:08:54,082 --> 00:08:56,040 It was just about getting attention. 158 00:08:58,875 --> 00:09:01,581 This is where we found somewhere to rehearse. 159 00:09:01,582 --> 00:09:04,039 This is where we found our management. 160 00:09:04,041 --> 00:09:06,749 This is where we found Andy. 161 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:08,791 This is where we found Simon. 162 00:09:08,792 --> 00:09:11,750 This was like our Cavern, in a way. 163 00:09:15,542 --> 00:09:17,164 So I guess within about a month 164 00:09:17,166 --> 00:09:18,832 of having gone to the Rum Runner, 165 00:09:18,833 --> 00:09:21,331 suddenly it's Nick, me and Rodge, 166 00:09:21,332 --> 00:09:22,874 and now we're planning world domination, 167 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:24,749 although we don't have a guitar player and a singer, 168 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:28,791 but this is, like, the... This is the core. 169 00:09:28,792 --> 00:09:30,916 We were looking for a guitar player 170 00:09:30,917 --> 00:09:33,415 that could play, like, Nile Rodgers funk, 171 00:09:33,417 --> 00:09:35,581 but could play, like, Mick Ronson lead, 172 00:09:35,582 --> 00:09:38,331 and there weren't that many who could do that. 173 00:09:38,332 --> 00:09:41,415 Andy came down from Newcastle. 174 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:44,957 We joke about his style, you know, 175 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:47,624 'cause that wasn't his thing, but he thought about music, 176 00:09:47,625 --> 00:09:50,667 and he just right away brought... He took us to another level. 177 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:54,542 ♪ Da-da, da-da ♪ 178 00:09:57,792 --> 00:10:01,916 ♪ Groovin' now to X-Ray Spex... ♪ 179 00:10:01,917 --> 00:10:05,499 We all had jobs here doing different things. 180 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:07,124 Nick got the DJ job, 181 00:10:07,125 --> 00:10:10,832 John worked on the door, I worked behind the bar. 182 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:14,541 And I remember Simon comes walking down one day, 183 00:10:14,542 --> 00:10:16,374 and that was our first meeting. 184 00:10:16,375 --> 00:10:18,456 When he said his name was Simon Le Bon, 185 00:10:18,457 --> 00:10:20,791 we sort of didn't believe that was his real name, 186 00:10:20,792 --> 00:10:23,791 but anyway, turned out it was. 187 00:10:23,792 --> 00:10:26,206 And he had a lyric book with him. 188 00:10:26,207 --> 00:10:28,039 Well, this was the holy grail. 189 00:10:28,041 --> 00:10:30,416 There were things in there, and we started reading through. 190 00:10:30,417 --> 00:10:34,289 Wow! This would be perfect if only he can sing. 191 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:37,581 ♪ All alone ain't much fun ♪ 192 00:10:37,582 --> 00:10:41,874 ♪ So you're looking for the thrill... ♪ 193 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:45,581 When he started singing, it was crazy. 194 00:10:45,582 --> 00:10:47,331 It was just one of those 195 00:10:47,332 --> 00:10:51,289 fantastic "Eureka!" moments. 196 00:10:51,290 --> 00:10:56,249 ♪ Don't say a prayer for me now ♪ 197 00:10:56,250 --> 00:10:58,957 ♪ Save it till the morning after ♪ 198 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:04,331 ♪ No, don't say a prayer for me now ♪ 199 00:11:04,332 --> 00:11:09,375 ♪ Save it till the morning after... ♪ 200 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,039 I thought, this guy's a star. 201 00:11:13,041 --> 00:11:14,999 He was tall, he was well put together, 202 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,499 and he was really smart. 203 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:18,541 I mean, he's a poet, Simon, you know? 204 00:11:18,542 --> 00:11:22,081 So at that time particularly, he was always writing words. 205 00:11:22,082 --> 00:11:23,707 The gold dust of the music business 206 00:11:23,708 --> 00:11:24,874 is words on paper. 207 00:11:24,875 --> 00:11:26,749 Whatever anybody else will tell you 208 00:11:26,750 --> 00:11:29,456 about grooves or notes, it's all about those lyrics. 209 00:11:29,457 --> 00:11:31,374 ♪ Any other day ♪ 210 00:11:31,375 --> 00:11:35,125 ♪ You might have gone walking by ♪ 211 00:11:36,457 --> 00:11:39,250 ♪ Without a second look ♪ 212 00:11:41,207 --> 00:11:43,206 ♪ Any other way ♪ 213 00:11:43,207 --> 00:11:46,417 ♪ But I'm still mystified ♪ 214 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,959 ♪ I'm just trying to change my luck ♪ 215 00:11:52,582 --> 00:11:55,415 ♪ Staring at the world... ♪ 216 00:11:55,417 --> 00:11:58,249 I'm going to take you to the church, 217 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:00,792 'cause we're gonna go and see Mr. Turvey... 218 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:04,999 my old choir master. 219 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,581 ♪ And nobody knows ♪ 220 00:12:08,582 --> 00:12:13,749 ♪ What's gonna happen tomorrow... ♪ 221 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:16,791 This is the beautiful... 222 00:12:16,792 --> 00:12:19,832 Church of St. John the Baptist, Pinner. 223 00:12:19,833 --> 00:12:23,916 This is where I was a choirboy for four years. 224 00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:28,039 This place had a huge effect on my musical development. 225 00:12:28,041 --> 00:12:30,081 I grew to love church music 226 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:33,957 and the intricacies of it and the harmonies. 227 00:12:33,959 --> 00:12:36,164 Hello. Long time. 228 00:12:36,165 --> 00:12:38,289 - Nice to see you. - It's been many years. 229 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:42,665 So this is where I spent a lot of time sitting. 230 00:12:42,667 --> 00:12:44,790 Right here. Yeah. 231 00:12:44,792 --> 00:12:47,499 There'd be somebody there who was better than me. 232 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:49,540 Until, for a very brief time, 233 00:12:49,542 --> 00:12:53,000 I became the one who sat... here. 234 00:12:54,082 --> 00:12:57,415 So this is myself and you, 235 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:00,289 performing "O For the Wings of a Dove." 236 00:13:00,291 --> 00:13:01,999 In this particular place. 237 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,331 Yes, right. Right here. 238 00:13:04,332 --> 00:13:07,206 ♪ O for the wings ♪ 239 00:13:07,207 --> 00:13:10,832 ♪ For the wings of a dove ♪ 240 00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:13,832 - ♪ Far away ♪ - Yeah. 241 00:13:13,833 --> 00:13:17,081 ♪ Far away would I rove ♪ 242 00:13:17,082 --> 00:13:19,874 I didn't quite get my breathing right there. 243 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:21,999 I was running out of breath. 244 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,207 Yes. There's a long note coming up. 245 00:13:26,708 --> 00:13:30,081 - Yeah. Totally out of breath. - Yeah. 246 00:13:30,082 --> 00:13:32,874 - ♪ Far away ♪ - That's it. 247 00:13:32,875 --> 00:13:35,665 ♪ Far away would I rove ♪ 248 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:37,039 I'm a little bit ahead of the beat as well, 249 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,499 - I think. - Just a fraction. 250 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:40,749 That's something that I've worked 251 00:13:40,750 --> 00:13:43,749 for decades to try and overcome, actually. 252 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:44,999 Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah. 253 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,499 ♪ Far away ♪ 254 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:50,665 -That's my favorite note in it. 255 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:52,415 - That one. - You got it right that time. 256 00:13:52,417 --> 00:13:54,875 -Yeah. 257 00:14:11,417 --> 00:14:14,456 We thought we were so great, didn't we? 258 00:14:14,457 --> 00:14:16,791 We thought that we were gonna take over the world. 259 00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:19,081 But I don't think we were arrogant, though. 260 00:14:19,082 --> 00:14:20,749 Well, at the time, we were young. 261 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:22,541 We were teenagers. I was 17. 262 00:14:22,542 --> 00:14:25,039 We were a lot more alike then. 263 00:14:25,041 --> 00:14:27,081 We were really birds of a feather, you know, 264 00:14:27,082 --> 00:14:29,581 and we had a... And our dress, really, 265 00:14:29,582 --> 00:14:31,456 I think, helped define us in a way. 266 00:14:31,457 --> 00:14:33,874 Charlie, you had some theatrical things. 267 00:14:33,875 --> 00:14:37,456 There was some gray velvet thing that you had made. 268 00:14:37,457 --> 00:14:39,957 Gray velvet with purple slashing. 269 00:14:39,959 --> 00:14:41,707 It was right out of Midsummer Night's Dream. 270 00:14:41,709 --> 00:14:44,415 Yeah, it was. Oh, my goodness. 271 00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:46,249 - It had bells. - It had bells on it. 272 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:48,540 You'd hear him coming down the corridor with bells. 273 00:14:48,542 --> 00:14:49,915 That was one of the things 274 00:14:49,917 --> 00:14:51,249 that was great about that period, actually. 275 00:14:51,250 --> 00:14:53,164 None of us were afraid of color. 276 00:14:53,165 --> 00:14:54,581 - Except Roger. - Apart from me. 277 00:14:54,582 --> 00:14:56,206 He just used to wear black. 278 00:14:56,207 --> 00:14:58,582 I was completely afraid of color. 279 00:15:04,041 --> 00:15:05,082 Yeah, yeah. 280 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:11,249 You look like you should be in Wham! 281 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:12,749 Very nice, Roger. 282 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:15,166 Baby, I'm your man. 283 00:15:18,082 --> 00:15:21,331 - Ooh! - ♪ Come fly with me ♪ 284 00:15:21,332 --> 00:15:23,500 I don't think we better go any deeper into here. 285 00:15:27,582 --> 00:15:29,916 Music at that time was kind of androgynous. 286 00:15:29,917 --> 00:15:31,957 There was this crossover, you know, 287 00:15:31,958 --> 00:15:34,915 between girls and boys wearing the same... 288 00:15:34,917 --> 00:15:36,707 There were clothes that crossed over, 289 00:15:36,709 --> 00:15:38,164 and we kind of bought into that. 290 00:15:38,165 --> 00:15:39,957 - We found 'em. - Yeah, we did. 291 00:15:39,959 --> 00:15:42,665 We used to trawl the streets of Birmingham 292 00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:46,124 trying to find, uh, bits of clothing. 293 00:15:46,125 --> 00:15:48,039 Ladies' clothes that would fit us. 294 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,332 Yes, but we... Then it was easier, right? 295 00:15:53,290 --> 00:15:55,289 I can see you working the bumper cars in that outfit. 296 00:15:55,290 --> 00:15:57,206 - Yeah, really? Cheers. - I quite like that. 297 00:15:57,207 --> 00:15:58,624 Yeah, so do I. 298 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:01,832 Italian Vogue. Old habit, you know. 299 00:16:01,833 --> 00:16:03,999 Uh... 300 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,957 We were out at dinner with Andy Warhol once, 301 00:16:05,958 --> 00:16:07,374 and somebody asked Andy, 302 00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:09,874 "Which do you think is the coolest Vogue?" 303 00:16:09,875 --> 00:16:13,331 And at the time, I'd made it as far as Paris Vogue, 304 00:16:13,332 --> 00:16:15,206 and I was really into Paris Vogue, and he said, 305 00:16:15,207 --> 00:16:17,666 "Oh, Italian Vogue, definitely." 306 00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,749 And we were like, "Italian Vogue? 307 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:22,832 Is there one?" You know? 308 00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:24,417 Pictures of girls. 309 00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:38,164 I first met Duran Duran around 1980 310 00:16:38,165 --> 00:16:40,081 when they came into the shop. 311 00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:44,039 We became very good friends. They had the balls to run around 312 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,915 with all the makeup and the hair. 313 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,124 This lot didn't give a damn, 314 00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:50,540 and they'd worked out that women quite liked it. 315 00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,540 So when they came along, they were a breath of fresh air. 316 00:16:53,542 --> 00:16:56,790 This is from the year... 317 00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:58,999 - Well, that's probably from... - Well, when you first started. 318 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,166 1981. 319 00:17:04,165 --> 00:17:05,708 I think after the punk thing, 320 00:17:05,709 --> 00:17:07,039 military was still very much... 321 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,374 Military was very happening. 322 00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,708 But you, of course, broke the mold for that. 323 00:17:11,709 --> 00:17:14,540 You lot went in waist-deep into it 324 00:17:14,541 --> 00:17:18,457 ♪ I saw you at the air race yesterday ♪ 325 00:17:18,458 --> 00:17:21,999 ♪ April showers get out of my way... ♪ 326 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,332 You obviously kept all these over the years. 327 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,499 - How many are there? - There's about 10,000 in all. 328 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:31,457 This was actually worn in the "Planet Earth" video, 329 00:17:31,458 --> 00:17:33,582 along with one of your suits. 330 00:17:33,583 --> 00:17:37,082 The shirts were like this one, because they had to be. 331 00:17:37,083 --> 00:17:39,915 It's the low arm holes and all of the rest of it. 332 00:17:39,916 --> 00:17:41,999 That's your easy wear. 333 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,164 It wasn't easy wear on the number 50 bus 334 00:17:44,165 --> 00:17:45,415 from Birmingham. 335 00:17:45,416 --> 00:17:46,915 That's what New Romantic was: 336 00:17:46,916 --> 00:17:48,582 wearing that on the 50 bus. 337 00:17:48,583 --> 00:17:50,999 So this one was from 1983, 338 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,915 and that's from the front cover 339 00:17:52,916 --> 00:17:55,164 of the Seven and the Ragged Tiger album. 340 00:17:55,165 --> 00:17:57,207 This fabric's happening now big-time. 341 00:17:57,208 --> 00:17:59,082 It's everywhere on the catwalk. 342 00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:02,039 Well, then, only 37 years ahead of our time. 343 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,289 I remember when you came to the shop. 344 00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:07,749 We came because when we finally got 345 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,082 our advance from EMI records, 346 00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:12,582 and part of it was a clothing budget for... 347 00:18:12,583 --> 00:18:14,289 Which you insisted on, of course. 348 00:18:14,290 --> 00:18:15,958 - Of course. - The first band to do that. 349 00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:18,249 No, the hard work was writing the songs 350 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:19,833 and getting all of that right. 351 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:21,332 - We know that. - Finally, when you get to 352 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,332 sort of present it, that's the fun, 353 00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:25,039 sort of saying, "How are we going do this?" 354 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,289 - Put it all in positions. - It ends up like this. 355 00:18:27,290 --> 00:18:29,000 There you go. 356 00:18:31,541 --> 00:18:33,790 Well, perfect for shopping in Oxford Street. 357 00:18:33,791 --> 00:18:37,164 These are the epitome of '80s over-the-top. 358 00:18:37,165 --> 00:18:39,958 - Really? You think so? - Oh, I think so, yeah. 359 00:18:39,959 --> 00:18:42,624 I mean, they're quite panto-y now, 360 00:18:42,625 --> 00:18:44,332 but at the time they were right, 361 00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:47,249 because they fused military with romance. 362 00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:50,332 We've got these corseted-back trousers here 363 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:53,457 that were all laced up the back, 364 00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:55,499 and then these hanging jackets. 365 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,665 - It's, uh, matador-ish. - Yeah, yeah. 366 00:18:58,666 --> 00:19:00,749 Somehow we managed to make it work 367 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:04,749 because we all had such individual and personal taste. 368 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:06,999 We could look at a rail of clothes now and say, 369 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,708 Roger's gonna like that, I'm gonna have that one, 370 00:19:09,709 --> 00:19:11,332 - John's gonna like that one. - Yeah, you could do that. 371 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:12,790 - Most of the band... - You were pretty right 372 00:19:12,791 --> 00:19:14,499 because you knew all their tastes 373 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:15,750 even better than I did. 374 00:19:18,959 --> 00:19:21,124 Any band, if you think of anyone you... 375 00:19:21,125 --> 00:19:24,039 Anyone in history that's worth remembering, 376 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,874 they all have an image. 377 00:19:25,875 --> 00:19:29,540 Elvis Presley, Madonna, Prince, Duran Duran. 378 00:19:29,541 --> 00:19:31,750 They were Birmingham's peacocks. 379 00:19:34,625 --> 00:19:36,708 There was this Smash Hits magazine, 380 00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:39,874 and suddenly nobody was reading any of the weeklies anymore. 381 00:19:39,875 --> 00:19:41,958 There were these, like, colored magazines 382 00:19:41,959 --> 00:19:43,289 that came out every week, 383 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:44,582 and it was, like, perfect for Duran. 384 00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:46,332 It was like, "There's a John cover. 385 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:48,708 It's a Roger cover. It's Simon and Nick." 386 00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:50,374 There was like an explosion, 387 00:19:50,375 --> 00:19:52,916 and we made ourselves very available to it. 388 00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:08,708 We went on tour behind Planet Earth, 389 00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:10,207 and we played Nottingham, 390 00:20:10,208 --> 00:20:12,582 and that show was reviewed in the NME, 391 00:20:12,583 --> 00:20:15,164 and it was the meanest review. 392 00:20:15,165 --> 00:20:17,582 "A Ripple in a Stagnant Pool" was the headline. 393 00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,332 I can still remember it to this day. 394 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:22,082 And the last line in it was, "Duran Duran are gonna be huge, 395 00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,082 and they really don't deserve any of it." 396 00:20:24,083 --> 00:20:25,499 And I remember reading that, thinking, 397 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,289 "That's so mean. Why?" 398 00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:29,499 You know, like, "Why?" 399 00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,915 And then we kind of knew that we were part of this, 400 00:20:32,916 --> 00:20:35,415 and that was probably after the Smash Hits cover. 401 00:20:35,416 --> 00:20:36,749 And it was like, 402 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:39,249 so we were a threat to that institution, 403 00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:41,164 and they weren't gonna be nice to us, 404 00:20:41,165 --> 00:20:42,958 so we just had to swallow it. 405 00:20:42,959 --> 00:20:45,915 But the NME never, never... 406 00:20:45,916 --> 00:20:49,959 And it bothered me up until about a year ago, I think. 407 00:20:52,208 --> 00:20:54,790 The first time I think that 408 00:20:54,791 --> 00:20:58,624 we recognized that something different was happening 409 00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:01,749 was when out of nowhere... It was like a movie set, 410 00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:04,749 and we got completely mobbed. 411 00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:07,999 And we sensed that something had changed. 412 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,290 I'm desperate to know what it's like to be a pop star. 413 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,374 Do you think it's all full of fast cars, 414 00:21:14,375 --> 00:21:16,164 fast women, fast living? 415 00:21:16,165 --> 00:21:18,332 Well, that's probably part of it. 416 00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,458 -It is, yeah. But... 417 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:33,999 I love boats. 418 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,958 I do have a boat a bit similar to this. 419 00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:39,375 It lives in a garage in Italy, where she was built. 420 00:21:42,165 --> 00:21:44,415 I think living the life was very much 421 00:21:44,416 --> 00:21:47,750 a sort of a part of the rock star lifestyle. 422 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,375 We were objects of desire. 423 00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:58,582 And people wanted to 424 00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:00,499 have us at their parties. 425 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,958 So there was a lot of that. 426 00:22:02,959 --> 00:22:04,790 ♪ See them walking hand in hand ♪ 427 00:22:04,791 --> 00:22:08,000 ♪ Across the bridge at midnight... ♪ 428 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:11,289 Duran Duran were like... It was glamorous. 429 00:22:11,290 --> 00:22:14,164 It was, like, hot, beautiful locations, 430 00:22:14,165 --> 00:22:17,415 leggy blondes, yachts and the limousines. 431 00:22:17,416 --> 00:22:19,374 It was aspirational, I think. 432 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:20,999 That's why I think people liked it, 433 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 because it was like, 434 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,540 you can come from Birmingham, 435 00:22:23,541 --> 00:22:25,124 you can come from southeast London, 436 00:22:25,125 --> 00:22:27,040 but you can still have a glamorous life. 437 00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:34,958 I was just, like, perpetually excited in 1981. 438 00:22:34,959 --> 00:22:37,874 I mean, it was like... I don't think I slept all year. 439 00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:41,249 I mean, it was just... It was just so much fun. 440 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:44,540 It was just... just this crazy adventure, 441 00:22:44,541 --> 00:22:46,541 and it never really stopped. 442 00:23:05,416 --> 00:23:07,082 It did become the album 443 00:23:07,083 --> 00:23:09,582 that was the most important in launching our career. 444 00:23:09,583 --> 00:23:15,082 ♪ You saw me standing by the wall ♪ 445 00:23:15,083 --> 00:23:17,958 ♪ Corner of a main street... ♪ 446 00:23:17,959 --> 00:23:20,415 I remember really being worried, 447 00:23:20,416 --> 00:23:21,999 just briefly, 448 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,124 that it wouldn't be as good as the first album. 449 00:23:24,125 --> 00:23:28,833 And I used to lay in my bed and listen to the album, 450 00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:32,749 and I rationed myself to two entire listens a night 451 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:34,624 because I didn't want to wear it out. 452 00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:38,624 But I just loved it. I thought it was so great. 453 00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:41,332 -♪ Don't say a prayer 454 00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,708 ♪ For me now ♪ 455 00:23:43,709 --> 00:23:47,000 ♪ Save it till the morning after... ♪ 456 00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:50,915 Everyone has that record, 457 00:23:50,916 --> 00:23:53,457 and I think Rio was that record. 458 00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:55,708 It was the sort of thing that seals the deal. 459 00:23:55,709 --> 00:23:57,708 I remember the sleeve. 460 00:23:57,709 --> 00:24:00,790 I remember hearing the songs for the first time. 461 00:24:00,791 --> 00:24:02,665 And I think that Rio was the album 462 00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:06,499 that established Duran Duran as a kind of global super force, 463 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,915 because it was like, "Okay, they can write songs." 464 00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:12,124 Rio was like a masterstroke. 465 00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:13,958 The image on the cover of that album 466 00:24:13,959 --> 00:24:17,499 so perfectly represents 467 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,665 the sounds in the music. 468 00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:21,499 Whether you're Bowie or Kanye West, 469 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:24,750 it doesn't matter, you're selling a fantasy. 470 00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:31,874 Here we have... 471 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:35,332 the original Rio painting. 472 00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:38,332 Yes. Still smiling after all these years. 473 00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:41,332 For our second album we thought, 474 00:24:41,333 --> 00:24:44,164 "Why don't we stick a beautiful painting on the cover?" 475 00:24:44,165 --> 00:24:46,289 And actually, 476 00:24:46,290 --> 00:24:49,540 to the credit of Paul Berrow, one of our managers at the time, 477 00:24:49,541 --> 00:24:53,039 who was an avid reader of Playboy magazine, 478 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,457 um, he spotted these beautiful illustrations 479 00:24:57,458 --> 00:25:00,708 done by a Californian artist called Patrick Nagel 480 00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:04,540 and brought them and said, "Chaps, do you like these?" 481 00:25:04,541 --> 00:25:06,874 And we looked and said, "Actually, yeah." 482 00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:10,790 They've got a real energy and a brightness, 483 00:25:10,791 --> 00:25:14,082 and they represented the period so well, 484 00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,665 it's become a symbol of that whole decade. 485 00:25:17,666 --> 00:25:20,124 But for us, she's got a very lucky smile 486 00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:22,708 because that period was amazing, and the Rio album 487 00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:25,625 was really what established us around the world. 488 00:25:47,916 --> 00:25:51,415 This was the home to Duran Duran in the '80s, 489 00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:53,833 when we were in Los Angeles. 490 00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:55,249 We've got all The Beatles here. 491 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:58,082 We've got John, George, 492 00:25:58,083 --> 00:26:00,415 Ringo, and then Paul McCartney. 493 00:26:00,416 --> 00:26:02,164 I know I wouldn't be standing here 494 00:26:02,165 --> 00:26:03,790 without those guys. 495 00:26:03,791 --> 00:26:06,249 Then we go on to Buddy Holly, 496 00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:07,958 but then they probably wouldn't be there 497 00:26:07,959 --> 00:26:10,082 without Buddy Holly, so that's cool. 498 00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:13,708 Moving on. Tina Turner, and Tina Turner's bicycle, 499 00:26:13,709 --> 00:26:15,624 which is a permanent show here now. 500 00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,749 I'm getting a warm feeling. 501 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,290 Capitol Recording artists Duran Duran. 502 00:26:21,666 --> 00:26:24,249 It's a big deal in terms of, like, 503 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,249 where you're from, I guess. 504 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,124 I don't think many of my schoolmates have got one. 505 00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:30,457 We got a lot of prizes in the early '80s. 506 00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:32,374 I took them for granted. I was like... you know. 507 00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:36,207 But as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate them, 508 00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:38,124 and display them, even. 509 00:26:38,125 --> 00:26:41,374 And I think to know where you come in the evolution 510 00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:44,332 of, uh, popular music, you know, 511 00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,039 contemporary culture, you know, that we've got a place... 512 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,959 We've got a place in that, it feels good. 513 00:26:57,333 --> 00:27:00,039 They were such a seminal band for me as a kid, you know. 514 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,207 Like, I really loved them. They had great pop songs, 515 00:27:03,208 --> 00:27:04,833 great melody, great band. 516 00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:07,124 There's a reason that they sold 18 million records. 517 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,249 They were just attuned to writing 518 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,915 really universal, great songs. 519 00:27:12,916 --> 00:27:15,249 What's your first memory of being in this building? 520 00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,790 I'm not sure they ever really knew what to do with us. 521 00:27:17,791 --> 00:27:20,624 EMI in London just kept pressurizing Capitol 522 00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:24,624 into basically making more effort to break the band, 523 00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:27,915 and it was really with Rio that they said, 524 00:27:27,916 --> 00:27:29,833 "Look, you've got to make this happen." 525 00:27:29,834 --> 00:27:31,833 To me, definitely the first album 526 00:27:31,834 --> 00:27:34,665 had a lot of the seeds of what became, like, 527 00:27:34,666 --> 00:27:37,374 the iconic early Duran Duran sound, 528 00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,665 but Rio is probably... And also just 'cause 529 00:27:40,666 --> 00:27:42,833 the level of songwriting just went like this. 530 00:27:42,834 --> 00:27:44,874 Do you feel like Rio is where you sort of forged 531 00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:46,999 - the Duran sound? - Definitely. 532 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,790 It was a development from the first... 533 00:27:49,791 --> 00:27:52,457 All the basic ideas... I mean, you just nailed it, 534 00:27:52,458 --> 00:27:54,958 the funky rhythm section, you know, 535 00:27:54,959 --> 00:27:58,082 sort of Moroder-esque synths, you know, 536 00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,457 but also that kind of... That chunky rock guitar. 537 00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,164 - Yeah, Steve Jones guitars. - Yeah. 538 00:28:02,165 --> 00:28:04,540 And also, the other thing is, like, 539 00:28:04,541 --> 00:28:08,374 probably because your whole, you know, pin-ups 540 00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:10,249 and all this kind of thing at first, 541 00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:12,039 nobody really wanted to give you credit 542 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,833 or the fact that everybody was a great musician. 543 00:28:14,834 --> 00:28:18,415 I think for all the excitement of the punk rock era, 544 00:28:18,416 --> 00:28:22,124 the post-punk era was really exciting too, 545 00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:24,039 because you had kids saying, "I want to be a bass player." 546 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,582 Roger and I were like, "We wanna be a rhythm section." 547 00:28:26,583 --> 00:28:29,790 That sound, like, when I play "The Chauffeur" in my head, 548 00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:32,749 that sound of Roger's drums on top, 549 00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:35,540 locked into the sequence of whatever Nick was doing, 550 00:28:35,541 --> 00:28:38,249 and then you with that, is such an important part. 551 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:39,833 I feel like "The Chauffeur," 552 00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:41,082 sonically and everything about it, 553 00:28:41,083 --> 00:28:42,582 if came out tomorrow and you said, 554 00:28:42,583 --> 00:28:45,207 "Oh, this is a new Killers tune," 555 00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,582 you would believe it. 556 00:28:46,583 --> 00:28:49,874 ♪ And watching lovers part ♪ 557 00:28:49,875 --> 00:28:52,915 ♪ I feel you smiling ♪ 558 00:28:52,916 --> 00:28:58,374 ♪ What glass splinters lie so deep in your mind? ♪ 559 00:28:58,375 --> 00:29:00,249 ♪ To tear out from your eyes ♪ 560 00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:04,164 ♪ With a thought to stiffen brooding lies ♪ 561 00:29:04,165 --> 00:29:08,457 ♪ And I'll only watch you leave me further behind... ♪ 562 00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:11,749 When we first came to New York, I remember our managers 563 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,039 meeting with these guys 564 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,624 that were putting MTV together, and they were like, 565 00:29:16,625 --> 00:29:18,289 "Look, we can't play 'Stairway to Heaven' all day, 566 00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:20,289 "like what happens on the radio. 567 00:29:20,290 --> 00:29:22,124 "We need to get more into new music, 568 00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:24,124 "and it'd be great if you could give us something really 569 00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:26,082 kind of like a James Bond film." 570 00:29:26,083 --> 00:29:28,124 - Right. - And our manager went away, 571 00:29:28,125 --> 00:29:31,749 and that's where the Sri Lanka video idea came from. 572 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,749 ♪ In touch with the ground ♪ 573 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:38,249 ♪ I'm on the hunt I'm after you ♪ 574 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,874 ♪ Smell like I sound I'm lost in a crowd ♪ 575 00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:45,958 ♪ And I'm hungry like the wolf... ♪ 576 00:29:45,959 --> 00:29:51,124 MTV was, like, such a big part of my teenage life. 577 00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:54,039 I mean, that's how we got our music. 578 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,915 And I think Duran Duran was such a perfect band 579 00:29:59,916 --> 00:30:01,915 for this new way 580 00:30:01,916 --> 00:30:06,124 that people were getting music, which was through television. 581 00:30:06,125 --> 00:30:10,289 ♪ Stalked in the forest too close to hide ♪ 582 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:13,332 ♪ I'll be upon you by the moonlight side... ♪ 583 00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:17,164 They were really some of the pioneers in music videos. 584 00:30:17,165 --> 00:30:19,582 That was just the age where 585 00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:22,289 we didn't know what to expect, and anything could go. 586 00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:24,833 ♪ And your skin it's so tight ♪ 587 00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:27,499 ♪ You feel my heat I'm just a moment behind... ♪ 588 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,915 There was something about it when we were there 589 00:30:29,916 --> 00:30:32,415 that we knew that it was new ground. 590 00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:34,164 It was very exotic. 591 00:30:34,165 --> 00:30:36,833 And we were very lucky to have Russell Mulcahy directing, 592 00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,874 because at that time, he was the guy. 593 00:30:39,875 --> 00:30:42,207 He had just done "Vienna" for Ultravox 594 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:44,582 and all the coolest things that were out there, really. 595 00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:46,457 ♪ I'm lost and I'm found ♪ 596 00:30:46,458 --> 00:30:50,457 ♪ And I'm hungry like the wolf... ♪ 597 00:30:50,458 --> 00:30:51,958 With Duran, it was a bit 598 00:30:51,959 --> 00:30:54,039 like being a tourist with a big camera. 599 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,582 ♪ I howl and I whine I'm after you... ♪ 600 00:30:57,583 --> 00:30:59,665 I had very much a cinematic vision, 601 00:30:59,666 --> 00:31:01,582 they had a vision with their music, 602 00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:04,457 and the managers had a vision about, "Let's make it big 603 00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:07,040 and-and stand out from the rest." 604 00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:11,541 We just wanted to raise the bar. 605 00:31:12,709 --> 00:31:14,039 On first glance, 606 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,499 it looks like a guy chasing a girl. 607 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:19,415 It's slightly uncomfortable, actually. 608 00:31:19,416 --> 00:31:21,749 But it's us chasing our career, 609 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:25,164 trying to make it happen, and we were so hungry. 610 00:31:25,165 --> 00:31:27,374 We would chase and we would grab 611 00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:29,082 and we would achieve. 612 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,665 And that is what that song's about. 613 00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:34,915 Then after that, the travelogue continued, 614 00:31:34,916 --> 00:31:39,083 and hence we ended up doing the "Rio" video in Antigua. 615 00:31:45,416 --> 00:31:47,624 That was wild. I mean, we sort of... 616 00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:50,124 That one we actually just made up on the spot. 617 00:31:50,125 --> 00:31:53,082 I would say in the morning, "Okay, I need, um... 618 00:31:53,083 --> 00:31:54,665 "I need a mirror, 619 00:31:54,666 --> 00:31:57,666 I need a bed, I want to put it on the beach." 620 00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:02,164 ♪ Moving on the floor now, babe ♪ 621 00:32:02,165 --> 00:32:06,249 ♪ You're a bird of paradise ♪ 622 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:09,124 ♪ Cherry ice cream smile ♪ 623 00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:12,082 ♪ I suppose it's very nice... ♪ 624 00:32:12,083 --> 00:32:14,124 The classic shot eventually ended up being 625 00:32:14,125 --> 00:32:17,289 Simon at the front of the boat with the boys hanging off, 626 00:32:17,290 --> 00:32:20,289 and the cameraman was sitting at the top of the boat, 627 00:32:20,290 --> 00:32:22,457 on the... whatever you call it... 628 00:32:22,458 --> 00:32:25,164 With no harness, hand-held, 629 00:32:25,165 --> 00:32:28,082 hanging on to the thing like that. 630 00:32:28,083 --> 00:32:29,708 Song blasting away, 631 00:32:29,709 --> 00:32:32,415 the boys were all in their sort of tailored suits, 632 00:32:32,416 --> 00:32:35,039 very expensive suits, getting splashed with seawater, 633 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,958 ruining the suits, of course, and we just had a lot of fun. 634 00:32:38,959 --> 00:32:42,709 ♪ Down to the Rio Grande... ♪ 635 00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:49,665 The yacht was such a powerful image. 636 00:32:49,666 --> 00:32:52,833 With us all with the colored Antony Price suits, 637 00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:54,665 it really worked beautifully. 638 00:32:54,666 --> 00:32:58,833 ♪ Doo-doo, doo-doo-doo, doo-doo ♪ 639 00:32:58,834 --> 00:33:01,416 ♪ Doo-doo, doo-doo-doo, doo-doo... ♪ 640 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,499 Rio was a very hard record to follow, in hindsight. 641 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,499 We made a classic album with Rio. 642 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,039 And I think it was first time that we really felt 643 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,916 the pressure of having to follow something up. 644 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,874 The Ragged Tiger is that kind of 645 00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:37,583 dirty but incredible... 646 00:33:38,916 --> 00:33:41,374 charismatic animal 647 00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:44,582 that is success. 648 00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:48,541 ♪ I knew this was a big mistake... ♪ 649 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,790 Hello, good evening, 650 00:33:53,791 --> 00:33:55,208 and welcome to our show. 651 00:34:01,834 --> 00:34:03,582 This is a dressing room, 652 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,332 and by the nature of the word "dressing," 653 00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:07,289 it means everyone has to change, so fuck off. 654 00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:09,373 What we really want to tell you is we're gonna do this. 655 00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:10,500 Good night. 656 00:34:13,375 --> 00:34:16,833 The demands on us had become absurd 657 00:34:16,833 --> 00:34:19,416 because I think a lot of the business people 658 00:34:19,416 --> 00:34:21,123 had smelled the money 659 00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:23,373 everywhere that they possibly could, 660 00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,748 and they just wanted more and more and more and more. 661 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:31,748 ♪ The union of the snake is on the climb... ♪ 662 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,206 Our accountants were saying, 663 00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:34,666 "You can't stay in England 664 00:34:34,666 --> 00:34:36,248 because you're gonna pay all this tax." 665 00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:39,248 So we decamped to the South of France, 666 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,791 and we end up in this château in the middle of nowhere. 667 00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:45,833 It was wonderful. 668 00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:47,958 The scenery was fantastic. 669 00:34:47,958 --> 00:34:49,998 And they had swimming pool 670 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,123 and tennis courts, 671 00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:55,289 and we didn't get a lot of work done. 672 00:34:55,291 --> 00:34:56,623 I get up and... 673 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,958 have a bath and a wee-wee. 674 00:34:58,958 --> 00:35:00,289 Have lunch. 675 00:35:00,291 --> 00:35:02,958 - Play a bit of tennis. - And then I wake up. 676 00:35:02,958 --> 00:35:05,206 I mean, I was all into the swimming pool 677 00:35:05,208 --> 00:35:06,456 and the tennis courts. 678 00:35:06,458 --> 00:35:10,791 John was bringing his girls down. 679 00:35:10,791 --> 00:35:14,248 Andy was getting a bit high. 680 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,581 John and Andy were funding 681 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:20,623 South American countries with their, uh... 682 00:35:20,625 --> 00:35:22,623 with their pocket money. 683 00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:24,748 They were up very, very, very late at night, 684 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,748 but not in the studio so much. 685 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,456 It was like, nobody was a saint in that band. 686 00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,331 I mean, why would you be? 687 00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,164 There's so much being served up, 688 00:35:33,166 --> 00:35:34,916 being offered to us. 689 00:35:34,916 --> 00:35:37,081 You've got drugs, you've got alcohol... 690 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,998 You know, there's a whole load of things. 691 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,581 It's a... It's a minefield, really. 692 00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:45,081 And even in amongst all of the fraternal 693 00:35:45,083 --> 00:35:46,791 kind of fun and games, 694 00:35:46,791 --> 00:35:48,331 there was loneliness as well. 695 00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:51,748 So, you know, 696 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,998 I don't think anybody relished 697 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,164 sleeping alone if it could be avoided. 698 00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:59,748 ♪ The reflex, fle-fle-fle-fle-flex ♪ 699 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,164 ♪ You've gone too far this time ♪ 700 00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,666 ♪ But I'm dancing... ♪ 701 00:36:04,666 --> 00:36:07,873 The tour for that album 702 00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,873 in '83-'84 703 00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:14,456 was the height of everything coming together. 704 00:36:14,458 --> 00:36:17,748 All the insanity from every single place 705 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:20,500 just came to meet us in America. 706 00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:25,791 We couldn't hear what we were playing most of the time 707 00:36:25,791 --> 00:36:28,456 because the noise of the audience 708 00:36:28,458 --> 00:36:30,998 was just overwhelming. 709 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,289 And they were all teenage girls, 710 00:36:32,291 --> 00:36:35,164 so it was all this certain pitch. 711 00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:36,873 It was like hitting... 712 00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:39,373 very heavy weather in an airplane. 713 00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,373 And we were just looking at each other, going, 714 00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:43,623 "Whoa, whoa! Hang on! Hang on!" 715 00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:47,623 I have photograph upon photograph 716 00:36:47,625 --> 00:36:50,331 of girls screaming and crying. 717 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:51,958 I wasn't prepared for the fact 718 00:36:51,958 --> 00:36:53,581 that it was the Beatles, effectively. 719 00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:56,500 It was madness, carnage, everywhere we went. 720 00:37:01,458 --> 00:37:05,081 We were hemmed into the hotels. We couldn't move at that point. 721 00:37:05,083 --> 00:37:07,623 Every time you tried to leave the hotel, there would be 722 00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:11,916 200 teenage girls trying to rip you apart. 723 00:37:11,916 --> 00:37:15,248 ♪ Finding treasure in the dark ♪ 724 00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:19,123 ♪ And watching over lucky clover ♪ 725 00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:22,081 ♪ Isn't that bizarre... ♪ 726 00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:24,666 It's absolutely incredible. There's tons of people here. 727 00:37:24,666 --> 00:37:26,916 I think there's about 2,000, 728 00:37:26,916 --> 00:37:29,123 3,000, four million, you never know. 729 00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:31,748 Did you think they'd have to bring in police horses 730 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:32,998 to keep the people quiet? 731 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,373 Have they got police horses out there? 732 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:35,916 Oh, God, where are they? 733 00:37:35,916 --> 00:37:37,416 The fans began to realize 734 00:37:37,416 --> 00:37:39,331 that all they had to do was phone the top hotels, 735 00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,873 wait for my name, then they'd know where the band was staying. 736 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,164 And I'd get the phone call at 2:00 in the morning 737 00:37:44,166 --> 00:37:47,581 asking how John was, or the fire alarm would go off 738 00:37:47,583 --> 00:37:50,164 and the whole hotel then had to evacuate. 739 00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:53,873 And that's how fans got to meet the band. 740 00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:57,123 ♪ Who's waiting by the park ♪ 741 00:37:57,125 --> 00:38:00,373 ♪ The reflex Is in charge of finding... ♪ 742 00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:04,416 It was... wild. 743 00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:08,039 I had somebody in a wardrobe in my room. 744 00:38:08,041 --> 00:38:09,833 I checked into my room, 745 00:38:09,833 --> 00:38:13,373 and I opened the wardrobe when I was unpacking, 746 00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,456 and there was a girl in there. 747 00:38:16,458 --> 00:38:18,666 It was like losing your virginity, you know. 748 00:38:18,666 --> 00:38:21,456 We were never the same again. It was like... You know? 749 00:38:21,458 --> 00:38:26,708 ♪ What a game, he's hiding all the cards ♪ 750 00:38:26,708 --> 00:38:30,333 ♪ The reflex is in charge of finding... ♪ 751 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,498 I think by the end of the U.S. tour, 752 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:39,331 we'd literally been deep-fried daily 753 00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:41,331 for months on end. 754 00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:43,541 Of course, pettiness 755 00:38:43,541 --> 00:38:46,373 and misunderstandings 756 00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:49,331 had started to set in within the band. 757 00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:53,623 We really for the first time had had enough of each other 758 00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:57,164 We all kind of went... 759 00:38:57,166 --> 00:38:59,581 John and Andy 760 00:38:59,583 --> 00:39:02,666 wanted to be more rock, and they did Power Station. 761 00:39:02,666 --> 00:39:06,666 Me and Nick decided we wanted to be more arty, 762 00:39:06,666 --> 00:39:08,998 and we started Arcadia. 763 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,791 Roger didn't know which bloody camp 764 00:39:10,791 --> 00:39:12,833 to be in, so he did a bit of both. 765 00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:14,248 It was kind of like two boats 766 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,541 were sailing off in different directions, 767 00:39:16,541 --> 00:39:18,916 and I kinda had one leg on one boat 768 00:39:18,916 --> 00:39:20,416 and one leg on the other. 769 00:39:20,416 --> 00:39:23,164 And I got kinda stretched in between, actually, 770 00:39:23,166 --> 00:39:25,039 which was a bit painful. 771 00:39:25,041 --> 00:39:27,206 I know you've been here all day, 772 00:39:27,208 --> 00:39:29,581 but if you've got any energy left, 773 00:39:29,583 --> 00:39:32,998 we'd like to see you dancing! 774 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,666 When Bob Geldof calls you and says, you know, 775 00:39:35,666 --> 00:39:37,541 "I'm doing this project. 776 00:39:37,541 --> 00:39:40,541 It's gonna save millions of lives in Africa," 777 00:39:40,541 --> 00:39:42,581 you can't say, "No, we're on a break." 778 00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:45,791 When we got together in Philadelphia, 779 00:39:45,791 --> 00:39:47,625 we were really in two camps. 780 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:55,666 The atmosphere was completely toxic. 781 00:39:55,666 --> 00:39:59,416 Nobody wanted to be together at that point. 782 00:39:59,416 --> 00:40:00,748 Which was quite sad, really, 783 00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:02,916 because we'd been so close a few years ago, 784 00:40:02,916 --> 00:40:05,541 and suddenly it was like we could hardly bear 785 00:40:05,541 --> 00:40:08,331 to be in the same room as each other. 786 00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,581 Just got to the point where I couldn't... 787 00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,541 I couldn't deal with it anymore. 788 00:40:12,541 --> 00:40:14,916 I got up every morning 789 00:40:14,916 --> 00:40:17,916 feeling unhappy with what I was doing. 790 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:21,206 I was sensible enough at the age of 25 791 00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:24,873 to think, you know, I'm gonna walk away from this. 792 00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,416 I remember when Roger left the band just thinking, 793 00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:30,164 "What a weird thing to do." It just... 794 00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:33,123 Who leaves a band when they're that successful? 795 00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:34,581 Because I sort of knew him. 796 00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:36,416 I just thought, he's obviously gone mad. 797 00:40:36,416 --> 00:40:39,791 ♪ The new moon on Monday ♪ 798 00:40:39,791 --> 00:40:44,581 ♪ And a fire dance through the night ♪ 799 00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:48,166 ♪ I stayed the cold day... ♪ 800 00:40:51,916 --> 00:40:54,625 ♪ Notorious, notorious ♪ 801 00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:01,166 ♪ No-No, notorious... ♪ 802 00:41:06,125 --> 00:41:08,581 We were fighting for our lives, you know? 803 00:41:08,583 --> 00:41:11,289 Because the band had had its moment. 804 00:41:11,291 --> 00:41:15,833 ♪ I can't read about it... ♪ 805 00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:18,833 We realized that this was a real crisis. 806 00:41:18,833 --> 00:41:20,416 It was survival. 807 00:41:20,416 --> 00:41:24,331 ♪ I'll do fine without it... ♪ 808 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:25,748 Andy kind of, you know, 809 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:28,039 dicked us around for about six months, actually. 810 00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:30,998 We didn't know whether he was coming or going. 811 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,998 Maybe he wasn't getting his rocks off, 812 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,873 the music wasn't speaking to him, 813 00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:37,416 he was getting frustrated with the style of the music 814 00:41:37,416 --> 00:41:39,708 and the direction the music was taking. 815 00:41:39,708 --> 00:41:43,623 The three of us came together in such an insanely... 816 00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:45,873 Like, with our backs to the wall... 817 00:41:45,875 --> 00:41:47,748 But it was so galvanizing. 818 00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:49,581 The desire to prove ourselves 819 00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:53,039 was more powerful than it had been at the beginning. 820 00:41:53,041 --> 00:41:56,708 Whereas we were in two camps at Live Aid, 821 00:41:56,708 --> 00:41:58,039 six, eight months later, 822 00:41:58,041 --> 00:42:00,123 the three of us were in a new camp, 823 00:42:00,125 --> 00:42:02,039 and it was our camp, and it was the trio camp. 824 00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,456 ♪ I heard you promise but I don't believe it ♪ 825 00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:06,123 ♪ That's why I did it again... ♪ 826 00:42:06,125 --> 00:42:09,541 So as things have always seemed to happen with us, 827 00:42:09,541 --> 00:42:13,666 it was one door closed, another door opened. 828 00:42:13,666 --> 00:42:15,748 And standing in that doorway 829 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,164 was Sir Nile of Rodgers, 830 00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:21,206 who came in and really oversaw 831 00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:23,248 the Notorious project. 832 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:25,748 As soon as we met each other, 833 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:28,416 it was... 834 00:42:28,416 --> 00:42:31,081 goddamn, like love at first sight. 835 00:42:31,083 --> 00:42:34,164 We had so much fun. We were making music 836 00:42:34,166 --> 00:42:36,416 the same way Chic makes music, 837 00:42:36,416 --> 00:42:39,289 the same way Luther Vandross makes music. 838 00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,581 When you meet an artist, 839 00:42:42,583 --> 00:42:46,248 and there's that kind of connection right away, 840 00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:48,416 you know that big things are gonna happen. 841 00:42:48,416 --> 00:42:49,791 Three, four... 842 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,456 He's fantastic to be around. 843 00:42:53,458 --> 00:42:55,289 He has a great energy, 844 00:42:55,291 --> 00:42:58,289 a joy, a joyfulness about the way he plays 845 00:42:58,291 --> 00:43:01,250 and the way he approaches songwriting and recording. 846 00:43:06,916 --> 00:43:09,248 That sounds like music to me, man. 847 00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:11,791 When we'd finished it, and we were all pretty pleased, 848 00:43:11,791 --> 00:43:15,123 we were just doing the mixes, and we'd sent 849 00:43:15,125 --> 00:43:17,708 an almost complete version to the record label, 850 00:43:17,708 --> 00:43:20,289 and they'd come back, and they'd said, 851 00:43:20,291 --> 00:43:22,081 "Uh, we've got a problem. 852 00:43:22,083 --> 00:43:23,666 "We can't put this out. 853 00:43:23,666 --> 00:43:25,456 "It doesn't sound like Duran Duran. 854 00:43:25,458 --> 00:43:27,289 It's-It's... Um... 855 00:43:27,291 --> 00:43:28,916 It's far too urban." 856 00:43:28,916 --> 00:43:31,373 But we just told them we were changing direction, 857 00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:32,623 and that was that. 858 00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,039 I think they just saw the boat 859 00:43:34,041 --> 00:43:35,708 going the other way down the river 860 00:43:35,708 --> 00:43:37,123 with all their money on it. 861 00:43:37,125 --> 00:43:40,123 When your record's not as successful 862 00:43:40,125 --> 00:43:42,666 as the one before, nobody wants to talk to you. 863 00:43:42,666 --> 00:43:44,791 The press don't want to talk to you, 864 00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:46,998 the music press aren't interested 865 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,373 because it's other things. 866 00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:50,623 "You can't get on the radio because 867 00:43:50,625 --> 00:43:52,581 "you're old stuff, man. You're old news. 868 00:43:52,583 --> 00:43:55,123 We've got new stuff we're playing here on Radio 1." 869 00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:56,581 So you sit there 870 00:43:56,583 --> 00:43:59,998 in your business manager' office in New York City, 871 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,998 looking at the pictures of all the other acts he's working on 872 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,998 and talking about, "What can we do to save this? 873 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,498 What can we do to make it work?" 874 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,623 The first time it happens, it's really scary, 875 00:44:12,625 --> 00:44:15,998 because you thought it would carry on forever. 876 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,833 But it happens. You get through it. 877 00:44:18,833 --> 00:44:22,498 And the next time it happens, it's not so bad. 878 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,456 And the next time it happens, it's not so bad. 879 00:44:25,458 --> 00:44:27,456 And then you just get to a point where you think, 880 00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:28,581 "You know what? 881 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,748 "Let's just relax and do what we do. 882 00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:32,916 "Do we believe in the music we make? 883 00:44:32,916 --> 00:44:34,541 "Yes, we do. 884 00:44:34,541 --> 00:44:36,416 "Can we go in and write new stuff? 885 00:44:36,416 --> 00:44:38,123 "Have you still got stuff inside you 886 00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:39,498 "that you want to say? 887 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,875 Yes, I have. Yes, we can." And you do it. 888 00:44:43,541 --> 00:44:44,875 ♪ Notorious ♪ 889 00:44:46,125 --> 00:44:49,375 ♪ No-No, Notorious ♪ 890 00:45:03,541 --> 00:45:06,039 ♪ Hey, child... ♪ 891 00:45:06,041 --> 00:45:08,248 At that time, we were looking to move 892 00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:09,998 into a new phase of the band 893 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,331 and what that band looked like. 894 00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,916 We'd gotten away from the early '80s, 895 00:45:12,916 --> 00:45:15,750 and we were looking to sort of redefine ourselves. 896 00:45:17,333 --> 00:45:19,916 ♪ Who do you need ♪ 897 00:45:19,916 --> 00:45:23,416 ♪ Who do you love ♪ 898 00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:25,748 ♪ When you come undone? ♪ 899 00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:28,081 We knew there was this guy, Nick Egan, 900 00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:29,456 and he did lots of cool stuff. 901 00:45:29,458 --> 00:45:31,581 He's got that same interest 902 00:45:31,583 --> 00:45:34,748 in art and music and fashion. 903 00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:36,456 I've worked with the Clash, 904 00:45:36,458 --> 00:45:37,708 I've worked with Bob Dylan, 905 00:45:37,708 --> 00:45:39,081 I've worked with Malcolm McLaren. 906 00:45:39,083 --> 00:45:41,581 My first cover I did was for the Ramones. 907 00:45:41,583 --> 00:45:43,248 The greatest achievement and the proudest achievement 908 00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:46,039 of my working career is actually working with Duran Duran, 909 00:45:46,041 --> 00:45:48,456 because I find the fact they stay relevant 910 00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:50,456 and keep ahead of the game, 911 00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,666 there's not many bands that can do that anymore. 912 00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:54,791 I think Nick was really important at that moment 913 00:45:54,791 --> 00:45:56,581 to help us realize first the cover 914 00:45:56,583 --> 00:45:59,000 and then the "Ordinary World" video. 915 00:46:13,458 --> 00:46:16,833 ♪ Came in from a rainy Thursday ♪ 916 00:46:16,833 --> 00:46:20,541 ♪ On the avenue ♪ 917 00:46:20,541 --> 00:46:23,748 ♪ Thought I heard you talking softly... ♪ 918 00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:25,623 "Ordinary World," the song itself, 919 00:46:25,625 --> 00:46:27,873 the thing that was the catapult back into phase two, 920 00:46:27,875 --> 00:46:29,456 if you like, when I heard it, 921 00:46:29,458 --> 00:46:31,331 I just thought, "This is a hit record." 922 00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:34,081 And you don't often think that. How did you guys feel as a band? 923 00:46:34,083 --> 00:46:37,541 We'd had the biggest flop of our careers 924 00:46:37,541 --> 00:46:39,958 with the album before, with Liberty. 925 00:46:39,958 --> 00:46:42,164 We were kind of a bit lost, really, 926 00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:44,998 but I remember hearing "Ordinary World" on the radio 927 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,708 and thinking, "Thank you, God." 928 00:46:47,708 --> 00:46:49,456 You know, that we'd just, like, 929 00:46:49,458 --> 00:46:51,708 we'd got a foot into another decade, you know? 930 00:46:51,708 --> 00:46:53,916 'Cause we'd just had a few years of, like, 931 00:46:53,916 --> 00:46:57,164 "'80s band, '80s band. They're done. They're done." 932 00:46:57,166 --> 00:46:59,331 I think the success of the single 933 00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:02,248 took an enormous amount of pressure off us. 934 00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:05,039 So I think Simon's lyrics were fantastic on that. 935 00:47:05,041 --> 00:47:07,373 Most of Simon's lyrics from the early albums 936 00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:09,666 are kind of quite oblique. 937 00:47:09,666 --> 00:47:11,331 You're not quite sure what they are. 938 00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:12,666 That's what makes them so interesting. 939 00:47:12,666 --> 00:47:15,206 But it kind of felt at this point like, 940 00:47:15,208 --> 00:47:18,581 maybe we just need to start writing songs about emotions 941 00:47:18,583 --> 00:47:22,248 and-and, uh, and see how that works out. 942 00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:26,039 ♪ But I won't cry for yesterday ♪ 943 00:47:26,041 --> 00:47:29,708 ♪ There's an ordinary world ♪ 944 00:47:29,708 --> 00:47:33,708 ♪ Somehow I have to find... ♪ 945 00:47:33,708 --> 00:47:36,748 "Ordinary World" is a song 946 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,833 about trying to get over 947 00:47:39,833 --> 00:47:44,081 the death of a best friend. 948 00:47:44,083 --> 00:47:47,958 And putting it in words freed me, absolutely. 949 00:47:47,958 --> 00:47:53,081 It really worked for me emotionally and mentally. 950 00:47:53,083 --> 00:47:54,541 Everybody who heard it 951 00:47:54,541 --> 00:47:56,708 could apply it to something in their life, 952 00:47:56,708 --> 00:47:59,248 and it meant something to them, 953 00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:01,081 but for a totally different reason. 954 00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:04,748 And it became such an important song for us. 955 00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:08,416 And I think it only had that power to touch people 956 00:48:08,416 --> 00:48:11,081 because it meant so much to me. 957 00:48:11,083 --> 00:48:12,416 ♪ In my world ♪ 958 00:48:12,416 --> 00:48:16,583 ♪ I will learn to survive... ♪ 959 00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,666 ♪ I put my hand ♪ 960 00:48:30,666 --> 00:48:34,206 ♪ Into the flame ♪ 961 00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:37,833 ♪ Burning but I feel no pain... ♪ 962 00:48:37,833 --> 00:48:40,289 We get Andy Taylor back as well tonight. 963 00:48:40,291 --> 00:48:45,039 - ♪ Don't speak my name ♪ 964 00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:47,039 ♪ Hold onto... ♪ 965 00:48:47,041 --> 00:48:48,958 I was talking to somebody this morning, 966 00:48:48,958 --> 00:48:51,333 and they thought we got back together to party... 967 00:48:52,458 --> 00:48:54,416 or find another wife or whatever, but... 968 00:48:57,833 --> 00:48:59,748 Fuckin' rockin' show, dude. 969 00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:01,373 Simon, the way you came in the crowd, 970 00:49:01,375 --> 00:49:03,500 I just wanted to lick you all over. 971 00:49:04,791 --> 00:49:08,123 People have been asking us for 20 years by then, 972 00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:11,456 "When are you ever gonna put the original band back together?" 973 00:49:11,458 --> 00:49:14,498 And we didn't know that we would, 974 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:16,750 but nobody had ever ruled it out. 975 00:49:26,625 --> 00:49:28,373 I just thought, 976 00:49:28,375 --> 00:49:29,958 if we ever get a ball near a pocket, 977 00:49:29,958 --> 00:49:32,500 this massive cheer's gonna go up. 978 00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:37,833 ♪ 'Cause where I stop that's where you begin... ♪ 979 00:49:37,833 --> 00:49:40,581 Apparently, it was 18 years 980 00:49:40,583 --> 00:49:42,708 - Wow. - In between... 981 00:49:42,708 --> 00:49:45,373 the last show that we were all on stage together 982 00:49:45,375 --> 00:49:49,248 and the first show of the Astronaut project. 983 00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:50,748 It was a gamble, 984 00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:52,373 but we didn't have a record company, 985 00:49:52,375 --> 00:49:54,164 and we didn't have a manager. 986 00:49:54,166 --> 00:49:58,125 I think we went in pretty much with nothing to lose. 987 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,373 We've got this super hooky vocal on the chorus. 988 00:50:08,375 --> 00:50:11,208 -To D-minor. 989 00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:15,625 Down. 990 00:50:22,208 --> 00:50:24,581 - ♪ Does anybody know? ♪ - I like that bit. 991 00:50:24,583 --> 00:50:25,916 What's that chord? 992 00:50:25,916 --> 00:50:27,958 It wasn't gonna be all about 993 00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:29,498 what happened in 1983. 994 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,750 This was gonna be about what we could do now. 995 00:50:34,125 --> 00:50:36,750 So, play it... play it from that first chord. 996 00:50:38,916 --> 00:50:42,708 But I've gotta say, getting the different personalities 997 00:50:42,708 --> 00:50:44,416 to work again 998 00:50:44,416 --> 00:50:47,039 was probably more challenging than the music, I think. 999 00:50:47,041 --> 00:50:48,873 That was the tough part. 1000 00:50:48,875 --> 00:50:52,708 Okay, clear the room, please. Including you. Out. 1001 00:50:52,708 --> 00:50:54,873 You guys sang it differently. 1002 00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:56,248 - No, we didn't. - Yeah, you did. 1003 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:58,791 Absolutely, you did. And we all noticed it. 1004 00:50:58,791 --> 00:51:00,416 You sang it... It was exac... 1005 00:51:00,416 --> 00:51:01,791 It was exactly the conversation 1006 00:51:01,791 --> 00:51:03,666 that we were having in sound check. 1007 00:51:03,666 --> 00:51:04,873 You said that before, 1008 00:51:04,875 --> 00:51:07,456 but I can't figure out what you mean. 1009 00:51:07,458 --> 00:51:10,373 You go to the last... 1010 00:51:10,375 --> 00:51:13,123 No, no. You're wrong. You are wrong. 1011 00:51:13,125 --> 00:51:14,748 I don't think ever 1012 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:18,373 was there a more important "Lights!" 1013 00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:23,081 than that first show in Osaka on the reunion tour. 1014 00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:24,541 Because that was the ultimate 1015 00:51:24,541 --> 00:51:27,250 "Shut the fuck up and play your guitars." 1016 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,081 And that was really what we needed, because then, 1017 00:51:41,083 --> 00:51:43,791 all the politics just "doof, schtum." 1018 00:51:43,791 --> 00:51:46,791 And then we go out and play, and we remind each other, 1019 00:51:46,791 --> 00:51:50,206 "When we do this together, this is what we get." 1020 00:51:50,208 --> 00:51:53,456 ♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪ 1021 00:51:53,458 --> 00:51:58,039 ♪ Put your hands into the big sky ♪ 1022 00:51:58,041 --> 00:52:01,289 ♪ You can touch the sunrise ♪ 1023 00:52:01,291 --> 00:52:05,873 ♪ Feel the new day enter your life ♪ 1024 00:52:05,875 --> 00:52:08,623 ♪ Reach up for the sunrise ♪ 1025 00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:12,373 ♪ Put your hands into the big sky... ♪ 1026 00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:14,206 After the Budokan shows, 1027 00:52:14,208 --> 00:52:17,708 we decided to do a tour to support Astronaut, 1028 00:52:17,708 --> 00:52:19,791 and I think it was planned to be 1029 00:52:19,791 --> 00:52:21,248 about three to six months, 1030 00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:24,041 but in reality ended up being around two years. 1031 00:52:27,708 --> 00:52:29,331 Tomorrow night we'll do like tonight. 1032 00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:30,873 Tonight we'll do like last night. 1033 00:52:30,875 --> 00:52:33,039 And tomorrow we'll do like the night before. 1034 00:52:33,041 --> 00:52:34,833 We've got to shorten "The Reflex." 1035 00:52:34,833 --> 00:52:38,123 Second show, "Tiger Tiger's" out. Right? 1036 00:52:38,125 --> 00:52:40,123 What do we play "Bedroom Toys" instead of? 1037 00:52:40,125 --> 00:52:41,916 We want to play that next to "Notorious," don't we? 1038 00:52:41,916 --> 00:52:44,333 We could play "Night Boat," then "Chauffeur." 1039 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,456 ♪ Her name is Rio ♪ 1040 00:52:51,458 --> 00:52:54,416 ♪ And she dances in the sand ♪ 1041 00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:59,039 Hey, that was a great... 1042 00:52:59,041 --> 00:53:02,708 I'm feeling job insecurity, Bill. 1043 00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:05,581 The last time we were at the wheel, 1044 00:53:05,583 --> 00:53:06,708 we just drove it off the cliff. 1045 00:53:06,708 --> 00:53:08,373 And this time, you know, 1046 00:53:08,375 --> 00:53:10,081 wanting to make sure that doesn't happen again. 1047 00:53:10,083 --> 00:53:12,289 I mean, we're all quite driven now. 1048 00:53:12,291 --> 00:53:15,164 I think what the time did was that it... 1049 00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:18,873 We all dug back in our relationships with each other 1050 00:53:18,875 --> 00:53:21,123 and our feelings for the band, you know. 1051 00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,958 I love you. 1052 00:53:25,416 --> 00:53:28,833 - That was worth the work. - That was worth a year. 1053 00:53:28,833 --> 00:53:30,873 It was like, everything was set. 1054 00:53:30,875 --> 00:53:32,164 You know what? 1055 00:53:32,166 --> 00:53:33,791 Not a moment too fuckin' soon. 1056 00:53:33,791 --> 00:53:36,456 All the British gigs, all the gigs we've done. 1057 00:53:36,458 --> 00:53:37,916 You know, to get it here: 1058 00:53:37,916 --> 00:53:40,666 just press the "on" button. Boom! 1059 00:53:40,666 --> 00:53:43,666 - Aren't we smug? - Yeah, right! 1060 00:53:44,916 --> 00:53:46,416 I hit a horrific bum note 1061 00:53:46,416 --> 00:53:48,666 on the guitar in "Astronaut." 1062 00:53:48,666 --> 00:53:51,248 Oh, someone had to spoil it, didn't they? 1063 00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:53,331 Just when you thought it was perfect. 1064 00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:56,248 ♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop bop, bop, bop, bop ♪ 1065 00:53:56,250 --> 00:53:58,666 ♪ Calling Planet Earth ♪ 1066 00:53:58,666 --> 00:54:01,541 ♪ Bop, bop, bop, bop bop, bop, bop, bop... ♪ 1067 00:54:01,541 --> 00:54:03,541 This is Planet... 1068 00:54:05,875 --> 00:54:08,666 And then we started a pretty good two-year run 1069 00:54:08,666 --> 00:54:10,081 of working together. 1070 00:54:10,083 --> 00:54:11,708 It was difficult, though, you know, 1071 00:54:11,708 --> 00:54:14,331 because everybody had had a different experience 1072 00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:17,039 and was carrying different stuff, baggage. 1073 00:54:17,041 --> 00:54:19,331 There was different things in everybody's suitcases, 1074 00:54:19,333 --> 00:54:21,623 and honestly, I really didn't want to know 1075 00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:23,039 what was going on, 1076 00:54:23,041 --> 00:54:24,998 but it would just come out. 1077 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,748 It's a really big one for the fans. 1078 00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:28,456 - It's a very exciting tour. - Yes, it is. 1079 00:54:28,458 --> 00:54:30,206 Roger and I were just saying that we thought... 1080 00:54:30,208 --> 00:54:31,998 You watched the reaction plummet. 1081 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,373 Are you joking? 1082 00:54:33,375 --> 00:54:37,373 The front three, four rows. Watch all the way back. 1083 00:54:37,375 --> 00:54:38,916 They just went... 1084 00:54:38,916 --> 00:54:41,164 You're telling me you can see people at the back? 1085 00:54:41,166 --> 00:54:43,541 - Of course I can. - Bullshit. 1086 00:54:49,208 --> 00:54:52,039 This is really when it all started going wrong 1087 00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:54,289 for Andy on that project. 1088 00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:57,748 I remember just seeing how much he put into a show, 1089 00:54:57,750 --> 00:55:00,873 or rather, how much it took out of him. 1090 00:55:00,875 --> 00:55:02,833 Andy was all or nothing. 1091 00:55:02,833 --> 00:55:04,248 You kind of knew 1092 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:05,998 that he wouldn't be able to keep it up. 1093 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,416 If I don't come off, and I haven't had a good show 1094 00:55:08,416 --> 00:55:11,456 or I haven't got enough, I'm a bit burnt, 1095 00:55:11,458 --> 00:55:13,748 I get a bit dark after 10 weeks on tour. 1096 00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:17,248 I'm a performer, first and foremost, 1097 00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,289 and anything else for me 1098 00:55:19,291 --> 00:55:21,123 is a secondary incident in life. 1099 00:55:21,125 --> 00:55:23,206 I think he really missed his family, as well. 1100 00:55:23,208 --> 00:55:27,498 Andy was, and still is, a real family man. 1101 00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,833 When you're younger, you don't have a home to call. 1102 00:55:30,833 --> 00:55:33,331 When you're our age, 1103 00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:35,998 home isn't just a house, it's a... 1104 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,958 It's a family, it's your children. 1105 00:55:37,958 --> 00:55:40,708 And so you can get stretched very thinly, 1106 00:55:40,708 --> 00:55:44,331 and those stresses can also take their toll. 1107 00:55:44,333 --> 00:55:46,666 You can get very homesick, in a nutshell. 1108 00:55:46,666 --> 00:55:49,039 We wanted to do everything. 1109 00:55:49,041 --> 00:55:53,164 We wanted to do more work and more shows, 1110 00:55:53,166 --> 00:55:54,873 and we were happy 1111 00:55:54,875 --> 00:55:57,998 with the way that the management was working, 1112 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,039 and Andy wasn't. 1113 00:56:00,041 --> 00:56:01,748 It's like one of those rat wheels, isn't it? 1114 00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:04,748 And you just gotta be King Rat sometimes 1115 00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:06,875 and say, "Bollocks. I'm jumping off." 1116 00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:15,873 And finally, the guitarist with the pop group Duran Duran 1117 00:56:15,875 --> 00:56:18,873 has left the band halfway through a world tour. 1118 00:56:18,875 --> 00:56:21,206 Andy Taylor, one of the original members, 1119 00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:22,916 rejoined the lineup five years ago, 1120 00:56:22,916 --> 00:56:24,833 after a 15-year absence. 1121 00:56:24,833 --> 00:56:26,164 The rest of the band 1122 00:56:26,166 --> 00:56:27,873 has described the relationship with him 1123 00:56:27,875 --> 00:56:30,791 as "unworkable" and one which couldn't be resolved. 1124 00:56:49,291 --> 00:56:51,164 ♪ Steppin' out steppin' out ♪ 1125 00:56:51,166 --> 00:56:53,456 ♪ Steppin' out and jumpin' up and ♪ 1126 00:56:53,458 --> 00:56:55,416 ♪ Steppin' out steppin' out ♪ 1127 00:56:55,416 --> 00:56:57,289 ♪ Steppin' out and jumpin' up and ♪ 1128 00:56:57,291 --> 00:56:59,416 ♪ Steppin' out Steppin' out ♪ 1129 00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:01,541 ♪ Steppin' out and jumpin' up... ♪ 1130 00:57:01,541 --> 00:57:05,623 We haven't been on Radio 1 for decades, 1131 00:57:05,625 --> 00:57:07,623 and we do another album 1132 00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:10,289 with Nile Rodgers, with Mark Ronson, 1133 00:57:10,291 --> 00:57:13,373 Ben Hudson, and it goes top-10. 1134 00:57:13,375 --> 00:57:14,998 It's extraordinary. 1135 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,416 ♪ Everybody everywhere ♪ 1136 00:57:17,416 --> 00:57:20,164 ♪ Feel it in the air oh, yeah ♪ 1137 00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:23,164 ♪ It's time to take the pressure off ♪ 1138 00:57:23,166 --> 00:57:25,123 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 1139 00:57:25,125 --> 00:57:27,123 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, it's up to you.... ♪ 1140 00:57:27,125 --> 00:57:30,081 And it was just such an uplifting experience. 1141 00:57:30,083 --> 00:57:33,791 When you see Nile playing his guitar like that and grinning, 1142 00:57:33,791 --> 00:57:35,873 there's nothing quite like it in the world. 1143 00:57:35,875 --> 00:57:39,331 ♪ It's up you, girl, it's time to take the pressure off... ♪ 1144 00:57:39,333 --> 00:57:40,498 The four of us have 1145 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,206 this extraordinary belief in ourselves. 1146 00:57:42,208 --> 00:57:45,373 You know, we still believe we've got important music to make. 1147 00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:47,833 You know, when everybody else is going, "Pfft! They're done!" 1148 00:57:47,833 --> 00:57:50,123 You know? And we... we have this sense 1149 00:57:50,125 --> 00:57:52,958 that there's a... That staying together... 1150 00:57:52,958 --> 00:57:56,666 'Cause we've all worked apart from each other. 1151 00:57:56,666 --> 00:57:58,373 We all tried that. 1152 00:57:58,375 --> 00:58:00,998 Eh. You know. There's something that we have 1153 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,791 when we're together that's worth showing up for. 1154 00:58:03,791 --> 00:58:05,916 We accept, um, 1155 00:58:05,916 --> 00:58:09,123 who we are as people now, who we've grown into, 1156 00:58:09,125 --> 00:58:14,791 including everybody's faults and quirks. 1157 00:58:14,791 --> 00:58:16,456 I don't even know what's... 1158 00:58:16,458 --> 00:58:18,498 I don't know what's in the future for us. 1159 00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:20,666 You know, I just know it'll be interesting. 1160 00:58:20,666 --> 00:58:25,331 - ♪ Oh ♪ - ♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪ 1161 00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:29,373 ♪ In a world that is paper thin ♪ 1162 00:58:29,375 --> 00:58:31,708 ♪ The fools in town... ♪ 1163 00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:35,123 Getting to a 14th album is a milestone. That's a moment. 1164 00:58:35,125 --> 00:58:37,123 It's not something you even think about doing 1165 00:58:37,125 --> 00:58:39,039 when you start your career. 1166 00:58:39,041 --> 00:58:42,081 Think about anyone now who's gonna make a 14th album. 1167 00:58:42,083 --> 00:58:43,748 On one hand. 1168 00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:45,708 Maybe not. One finger. 1169 00:58:48,833 --> 00:58:52,039 I actually think we've proved the detractors wrong 1170 00:58:52,041 --> 00:58:53,791 in the last decade. 1171 00:58:53,791 --> 00:58:56,331 The fact that we're still here 1172 00:58:56,333 --> 00:58:58,958 40 years after we started, 1173 00:58:58,958 --> 00:59:01,750 that... that's the real proof. 1174 00:59:02,875 --> 00:59:05,998 ♪ Bow to the paper gods ♪ 1175 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,791 ♪ In a world that is paper thin ♪ 1176 00:59:09,791 --> 00:59:13,916 ♪ The fools in town ♪ 1177 00:59:13,916 --> 00:59:17,125 ♪ Are ruling now ♪ 1178 00:59:19,125 --> 00:59:23,081 ♪ Bleeding from paper cuts ♪ 1179 00:59:23,083 --> 00:59:26,456 ♪ From money for head shots ♪ 1180 00:59:26,458 --> 00:59:29,416 ♪ Fools leading ♪ 1181 00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,250 ♪ Who needs it? ♪ 1182 00:59:34,916 --> 00:59:37,206 - Yes! - Yes! 1183 00:59:37,208 --> 00:59:40,250 - Charlie's first pot! - Finally! Well done! 91020

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