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- People are becoming
more and more anxious.
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More than a third of
us feel the world is a
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more frightening place
than it used to be.
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- By age 32, 50% of the
population might qualify
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for an anxiety disorder.
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- For an estimated
10 million Americans,
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fear of social situations
can be totally debilitating.
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- I'm a 40-year-old man
in a 12-year-old body.
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- One of my friends said,
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"For people like you, we used
to pour buckets of cold water
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"on them as they lay in bed.
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"That's what you deserve."
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- If they can fix their
anxiety with a pill,
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that's just as
appealing as discovering
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that you can make your
dinner with a microwave oven.
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- [Allen] The country
is bathing itself
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in prescribed drugs.
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- Oh, there are many, many
unhappy people out there
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in the real world that are,
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"Oh, I have
psychiatric illnesses."
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The ultimate risk in all is that
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we've psychiatrized
the entire population.
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We've ended up in a situation
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where virtually everybody
has some kind of disorder.
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That's crazy.
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[cars honking]
[crowd muttering]
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- The number one
prescription people come
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to the pharmacy for is anxiety.
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Wouldn't you say,
about three-quarters
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of what we have here
is for anxiety, Mark?
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About three-quarters
of the things
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in the pharmacy are for anxiety.
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It's kind of a sad thing,
it's a tragic thing, really.
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- [Narrator] This is a story
about a society on edge.
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A place where our culture,
the very way we live,
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is leaving us feeling more
anxious than ever before.
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- We're normally anxious
because life is dangerous.
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Many of us are vulnerable
to losing a job
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or being underemployed.
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We can't manage whether
we're gonna get a disease
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or not most of the time.
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- The other factor, I think,
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is really important
is isolation.
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So, that sense that really
nobody does have your back.
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The collapse of meaning,
so that where we all used
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to sort of trudge out
to the same church,
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and even if we didn't
explicitly believe in God,
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we had a general
consensus about it.
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Now, we have none of that, so
that's very anxiety-provoking.
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- [Narrator] Once considered
an obscure and serious illness,
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anxiety is now a big part
of our cultural identity.
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- 18% of the U.S.
population is said
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to have an anxiety disorder.
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So that's pretty high, certainly
higher than depression,
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higher than bi-polar disorder,
higher than schizophrenia.
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- Modern life is
taking its toll.
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Anxiety about terrorism,
increasing fear of crime.
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More than a third of us--
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- [Arthur] You can't avoid
hearing about anxiety
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if you're in a
media-sophisticated setting.
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- 66% say the economy is
contributing to our fears.
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- And I think in a
setting like that,
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we become socialized
to those ideas.
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- [Narrator] All over the world,
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a sort of psychiatric-perfect
storm has been brewing.
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New diagnoses for anxiety,
prescription-happy GPs
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and a hectic society
have all collided
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in the early 21st century
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to effectively turn us all
into mental health patients.
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- More and more people
who have normal worry
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and anxiety are being diagnosed
as having a mental disorder.
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- It's become extraordinarily
prevalent in our culture
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as a reference point for
how we're all feeling
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without us necessarily
understanding
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what it is that
we're talking about.
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- [Narrator] What has changed?
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Or has anxiety
always been with us
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and only now taking its place
in the cultural spotlight?
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To answer that question,
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we need to know what
exactly is anxiety.
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- So often there's a confusion
in the minds of people
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when they're speaking and
they're talking about anxiety.
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Are they talkin' about
somethin' normal?
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Are they talkin' about
something extra-normal?
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Are they talkin' about
somethin' pathological?
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Is it a disease?
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Is it a symptom?
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- [Narrator] The
dictionary describes it as,
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"A feeling of worry,
nervousness or unease,
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"typically about
an eminent event
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"or something with an
uncertain outcome."
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In reality, it means
very different things
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to different people.
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- A welling up of what I
used to call panic juice.
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I know that sounds weird,
but it felt like there was
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this volcano of panic juice
coming from the stomach
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and then into the rest of me.
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- It kinda feels like
something's always chasing you.
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That you are always
trying to get away
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or trying to get somewhere.
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There's something always right
behind you coming for you.
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- It's just something
your brain does to you.
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It's something you see
that triggers the brain,
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like the alarm
goes off. [beeping]
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I thought my heart was stopping.
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I'm not lyin' to you, I
thought my heart was stopping
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and I thought I was dying.
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That may sound a little like
crazy, but I'm not lying.
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- It's not a productive fear,
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it's more of a
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paralyzing fear.
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- Well, there's just
every day anxiety.
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Missing the subway when
you're late for work.
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Trying to get to an appointment
and you can't find a cab.
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It's just, the city
is fraught with it.
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- [Narrator] The
experience varies
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because anxiety
occurs on a spectrum.
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At one extreme, it's
a crippling disorder.
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At the other, a normal, even
healthy part of daily life.
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- The anxiety is not all bad.
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Think about, how in college
did you keep yourself up late
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at night studying for that
test to get a good grade?
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Actually, it was anxiety
that got you to do that.
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- It's normal to be anxious
which is a form of fear.
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It's just a fear of what's
going to come in the future.
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However, when that fear
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or that anxiety becomes
disconnected from the situation,
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let's say there is no
danger in the environment
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and you are still worried,
still anxious, still fearful,
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that's when we are talking
about anxiety disorders.
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- Sometimes I'd look
at ordinary objects
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and it would cause me to be
just stimulate a panic response.
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I'd look at a teapot
and be afraid of it.
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Why would I be
afraid of a teapot?
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- I get the same kind of feeling
someone would get waiting
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outside their exam
room for the test,
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but I'd have it all the time.
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- If you can see the
tiger through the brush
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and you're fearful, hey,
that's a rational response.
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If you know the tigers have
been dead for 1,000 years
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and you're still fearful of
them, then that's anxiety.
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- I was watching a TV show
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and I saw something
about someone choking
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and nobody did anything to
help him and it scared me.
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I went to bed the next
night and then next morning,
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I was afraid to swallow.
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I don't know, it just
freaked me out, really.
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I couldn't eat because I
was afraid I was choking
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and then I was gonna die.
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And then, eventually we
went to a psychiatrist
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and I was diagnosed
with anxiety.
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- [Narrator] Today, people
like Erin and Lucas,
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who meet the criteria
of an anxiety disorder,
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are most likely to
end up on medication.
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But as the conversation
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about life's daily anxieties
grows louder and louder,
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more and more people
who think of themselves
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as normal are
considering using pills
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to deal with everyday life.
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[frenetic music]
[cars honking]
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- For me, anxiety is not
having control over my life
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in any environment.
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I'm at work and my
shoulders are up here
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and I literally have to say,
"Down, down, shoulders,"
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because they are up at my ears.
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[frenetic music]
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I don't know how I'm managing?
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- You're kind of not.
- I'm not. [laughs]
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And especially when you
have a four year old
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and you know, we're looking
into schools for her now.
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- [Friend] Oh, and
private schools.
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- We are looking into--
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- And is Alan working?
- No. [laughing]
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- Okay.
[somber music]
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- He was laid off right
after the crash in '08.
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So we have one income
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and a mortgage and you
know it's very difficult,
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especially living
in New York City.
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There are a lot of people
competing for your job.
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There are a lot of
people competing
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for that seat on the subway.
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There are a lot of people who
get to the farmer's market
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before you do, [laughs]
and buy up all the corn
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that you were going to cook
for your guests that night.
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- I heard a story about
parents dropping off their kids
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and sort of clogging up the
street in front of the school
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and they weren't
dropping off correctly.
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And eventually, they
had to be threatened
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with putting a mark on their
child's permanent record.
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[laughs] And this
was a preschool.
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- I still, sometimes,
have trouble sleeping
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and I still, sometimes,
have some hyperventilation.
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I have a lot of tension
and I clench my teeth a lot
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and it's destroying my teeth.
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The traditional gender
roles are kind of reversed
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in my household.
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So I think that's another
thing that plays into it,
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is that I'm not the mommy
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that a lot of other kids have.
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I'm the one who goes
to work everyday
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and that she sees basically an
hour a night and on weekends.
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[somber music]
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You feel completely helpless.
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You feel like you have no
control over your own life.
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- We get ourselves
into a situation
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where we think
that we're rational
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and that we can have perfect
control over our experience.
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And then when we lose
control of that experience,
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which of course we're gonna do
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because there's so many
other elements involved,
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it's terrifying.
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We are pushing
ourselves to the edge
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of our confidence
and competency,
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and the result is that
somebody who thought before,
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"Well, I'm gonna be okay,
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"I can just keep myself
cool and collected."
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Now, they're so freaked
out and so stressed
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that they're gonna reach
for, if they're offered
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which they often are by a GP,
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they'll say, "Yeah,
you know what,
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"maybe I better take a pill
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"because I really need
to keep my cool here."
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- [Narrator] According to the
World Health Organization,
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disorders related to dread are
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now the most prevalent mental
illnesses on the globe.
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- On the one hand,
we all are anxious.
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Right now I'm anxious about
whether my car, parked outside,
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is gonna get a ticket or not.
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But anxiety is also a
pathological emotion
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and that is not a
normal experience,
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'cause anxiety can be crippling.
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[somber music]
[birds singing]
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- I would get
heart palpitations,
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this tightness in my chest,
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and not really understand
what was happening
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and losing my breath.
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I just had no idea
what was going on.
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- [Announcer] Vorsky
with a nice chance
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as she moved in on goal
to test Kendra Fisher.
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- [Announcer] Oh, what a stop!
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[whistle blowing]
[crowd cheering]
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- [Narrator] Kendra
Fisher was on her way
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to a spot on the
Olympic hockey team
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before anxiety began to
take control of her life.
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- It's this secret
you wanna keep
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and this thing you
don't want people
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to know you're dealing with.
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So, to then have to try
to explain to people
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why I wasn't okay
goin' out for dinner,
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I wasn't okay drivin'
down the street.
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It got to a point where I wasn't
okay leaving my apartment.
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I lost about 47 pounds
in a month-and-a-half.
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I couldn't eat.
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I couldn't sleep.
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I was just an absolute
shell of myself.
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- [Narrator] When her
condition became unbearable,
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Kendra was forced to
retire from hockey
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just weeks before
realizing her dream
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of joining Team Canada.
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- It was the one thing that
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I had spent my
entire life wanting.
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And you know, where, where
do you go after that?
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- [Narrator] Since touching
bottom several years ago,
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a mixture of meds, psychotherapy
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and lifestyle changes
have steadied Kendra.
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But she's still unable
to dine out in public
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or go to a concert without
risking a serious attack.
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- [Kendra] Heaven forbid
I forget to take my pills
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and that typically
makes for a rough day.
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- [Narrator] Today,
an extreme case
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of anxiety like
Kendra's is treated
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as a genuine
psychiatric illness.
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While someone like
Jessica, for now at least,
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falls just under the
threshold of a disorder.
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What separates them is
still, for the most part,
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a scientific mystery.
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[lively harpsichord music]
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- In the 17th century, if you
were anxious or depressed,
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then it was thought to be the
result of demonic possession.
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This then leeches away, and by
the end of the 18th century,
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the population as a whole
has stopped believing
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in demonic possession
and has started believing
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in clinical medicine.
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Anxiety was seen as an
aspect of psychotic illness.
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That means the presence of
delusions and hallucinations.
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- [Narrator] Early cures
varied from spa treatment
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to special diets,
prayer, even fresh air.
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- But then, the huge change
in medical interpretations
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of anxiety comes with
the psychoanalysts,
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comes with Sigmund Freud.
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When Freud says, "Yes, it is
very much a disease of its own,
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"anxiety neurosis."
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- [Narrator] Treatment
was evolving, too.
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Spas and physical therapies
gave way to barbiturates
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that produced sensations
from mild sedation,
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to total anesthesia.
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These were the first
psychoactive drugs.
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- Barbiturates,
the sleeping pills
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that have colorful names
like goof balls, red devils,
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yellow jackets, blue
heavens and rainbows.
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Pep pills and sleeping
pills, when improperly used,
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can be just as dangerous
as taking dope.
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- [Narrator] By the
1960s, Valium-style drugs,
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the benzodiazepines,
had taken over partly
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because they were
considered less dangerous.
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And since the late-1980s,
the Prozac family of drugs,
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or SSRIs, have dominated
treatment for anxiety.
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These work, in theory,
by increasing the level
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of serotonin in the brain.
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- We have no idea how it works.
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Somehow, you take
it every morning
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and your anxiety goes away.
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What does it matter that
we don't know how it works.
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One of the issues is that
there are many side effects
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and the less that we know
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about how drugs work,
therapeutically,
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the less we're going to
know about how they may work
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to cause negative or
adverse reactions.
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- [Narrator] For all
of its many forms,
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anxiety is still not easy
to see with the naked eye.
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Today, millions in
research dollars are spent
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on neuroscience in the hopes
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of finding the next
big breakthrough.
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- All right, so
what we have here,
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is we have an animal
that's been implanted
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with fiber optics directed
at a part of the brain,
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called the hippocampus,
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that we think is important
for anxiety-like behavior.
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This maze measures the
animal's innate anxiety,
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its innate fear of open spaces.
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When we keep the light off,
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the animal will behave
like a normal mouse.
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It'll basically
spend all its time
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in these close
parts of the maze.
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When we turn on the light
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and activate these
specific circuits,
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the animal will now start
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to explore the open
arms of the maze.
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That suggests that
we can regulate
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the animal's anxiety state.
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And so if we can discover
new circuits in the brain,
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we can now create better drugs
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to alleviate anxiety in humans.
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- [Narrator] While
researchers try
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to map anxiety in the brain,
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the search is on for the
genes that trigger it all.
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- Psychiatric disorders
run in families
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and that basically tells you
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that there is a
vulnerable genetic terrain
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in certain individuals.
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We are only at the
top of the iceberg.
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We've found a few of
the genes involved,
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but probably more than
90% are still missing.
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- [Narrator] For now,
anxiety is understood
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basically as a list
of symptoms observed
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by patients and doctors
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and collated since
1952 in what's known
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as the Bible of Psychiatry,
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the Diagnostic and Statistical
Manual of Mental Disorders,
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or simply, the DSM.
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- The role of the DSM
is really very simple,
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it's a long list
of mental disorders
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and it helps us
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to locate our patients, you
know, within that spectrum
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of psychological suffering.
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We can't take a brain picture
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and we have no blood
test to tell us,
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"Oh, yes, this is anxiety."
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We depend entirely on patient's
telling us how they feel.
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- The most important function
of the Diagnostic Manual is
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to set the boundary
between normality
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and psychiatric illness.
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Now the trouble with this is,
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that there is no clear boundary.
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[friends muttering]
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- [Narrator] Already, vague
definitions of anxiety
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in the DSM make it
easy to over-diagnose.
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- Overt sexuality
used to be in the DSM.
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- Right.
- Yes, yes.
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- 18-year-old boys,
so it's, you know--
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- [Narrator] In New York,
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Jessica Scott has
been reading the DSM
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out of curiosity
about her own anxiety.
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Tonight, she's decided to
self-diagnose with her friends
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and see how many of
them meet the threshold
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of an anxiety disorder.
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- I'm curious, though, let's
take a look at the DSM.
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This is the diagnostic criteria
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for generalized
anxiety disorder, okay.
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[friend singing]
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So let's see what it says.
[friend laughing]
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And let's see what
we think about it.
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- Because now
everything's a syndrome.
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- "A. Excessive
anxiety and worry.
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"Apprehensive expectation
occurring more days than not
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"for at least six months."
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- 45 years.
[group laughing]
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I've been suffering.
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- All right, who wants to
read the next two of these,
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'cause this is
givin' me a headache.
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"Restlessness or feeling
keyed up or on edge," check.
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"Easily fatigued," yes.
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"Difficulty concentrating
or mind going blank."
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- [Friend] This
is perimenopausal.
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[group laughing]
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- Well, that is
also perimenopausal.
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"Muscle tension,
sleep disturbance,
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"difficulty falling or staying
asleep," all of the above.
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- So here's the thing.
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Everybody in the world--
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- Yes.
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- Has been experiencing anxiety.
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So what's the label that
we're all experiencing?
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- Well, for you it's--
- Generalized anxiety?
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[group laughing]
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- [Friend] For you, yeah.
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[group laughing]
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- [Narrator] Using the
DSM to diagnose anxiety
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at a dinner party is, of course,
far from an exact science.
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But the same is true even
for the professionals
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in a case where the patient
is genuinely on the fence.
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- Can I turn left out of here?
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Oh, a bike!
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Oh, don't do this to me!
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Oh, my God!
[frenetic music]
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If I have to focus, I can't.
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I can't listen to anything,
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I can't have anyone
talking to me.
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Driving is a big one.
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Like everybody experiences
anxiety over exams and stuff,
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but I think I experience
it a little bit more?
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I don't know if it's a
little bit more or the same?
433
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Or, I don't know if people
are better dealing than I am?
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Or, I don't know?
435
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My name's Stephanie
and I was wondering
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if I could talk to one
of your counselors?
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- Sure.
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- Anxiety on the campus is huge.
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And we'll see in
the neighborhood
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of about 11,000 students
in Health Service.
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About 28% of all the students
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we see have an anxiety disorder.
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- Little things will set me off.
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My first lab of this year,
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I spilled reagents
all over myself
446
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'cause I did my
calculations wrong
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and the worse I do,
the more I freak out.
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It just sort of compounds.
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The fact that I'm even thinking
about medication is strange
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for me because I
don't like taking it.
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- Because we expect to be
more happy and fulfilled
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than the average human
life is going to be,
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we start to become
open to the idea
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that our unhappiness is somehow
pathological or a disorder
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and that it deserves
to be treated.
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That's a real modern phenomenon,
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to take the complexity and
enormity of human emotion
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and turn it into a
treatable illness.
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- If you have an illness
that can be corrected
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with a new boyfriend
or a check for $5,000,
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then you probably don't have
a psychiatric disorder at all,
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even though you'll be given a
psychiatric diagnosis today.
463
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- I would definitely
say most students are
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probably looking
for an easy way out
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because there's so much
that's expected of us.
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Like, a lot of people have a job
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while they're going
to school full-time
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and having to pay
off loans and things.
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I know people that are
getting second degrees
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that are paying student
loans off from before
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while getting more
student loans.
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So I can see people like,
"Well, I can take this pill
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"and it'll be gone
in 30 seconds,
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"or I can do this
exercise for 30 minutes."
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I can see why people would find
that to be the easy way out.
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- They'll come in having
researched on the internet.
477
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They'll read into
what symptom profile
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they believe that they have
479
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and they'll say, "Well,
this is what's prescribed,
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"this is what's recommended
and I'd like to get that."
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We have students coming in
and asking for specific drugs.
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So, you seem a bit nervous
to me even right today.
483
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- [laughs] I have a little
bit of social anxiety.
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- They're overwhelmed.
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It's kinda this
vague overwhelmed.
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They feel that they can't
meet their deadlines,
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that there's just too much work,
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they don't know where to start.
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- I can cope most of the
time, at least I try to,
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but it's getting to the point
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where it's too much and I can't.
492
00:22:34,974 --> 00:22:37,597
- What you have to realize
is that it's in a continuum.
493
00:22:37,597 --> 00:22:39,841
There is the normal
adaptive response
494
00:22:39,841 --> 00:22:41,567
and when it gets exaggerated,
495
00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:44,121
you fall into the
anxiety disorder.
496
00:22:44,121 --> 00:22:47,642
But there it is arbitrarily
cut off between the two.
497
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,888
- In the majority of cases
in the anxiety disorders,
498
00:22:52,888 --> 00:22:55,719
all I have is your report to me.
499
00:22:55,719 --> 00:23:00,620
And so that creates a little
bit of subjective problem.
500
00:23:01,518 --> 00:23:03,796
[cars honking]
[frenetic music]
501
00:23:03,796 --> 00:23:06,108
- [Narrator] Because
of that subjectivity,
502
00:23:06,108 --> 00:23:08,559
anxiety is easy
to over-diagnose.
503
00:23:09,698 --> 00:23:12,391
At the same time, GPs
are often too busy
504
00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:14,703
to look beyond medication
for the answer.
505
00:23:16,498 --> 00:23:19,570
Drug companies understand
this better than anyone
506
00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:21,952
and they spend a fortune
marketing to doctors
507
00:23:21,952 --> 00:23:24,920
and consumers alike,
trying to bring us all
508
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,784
under the
pharmaceutical umbrella.
509
00:23:28,027 --> 00:23:29,477
- It's like I can't
participate in life,
510
00:23:29,477 --> 00:23:31,202
like I'm too busy worrying.
511
00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:32,721
I don't sleep at night.
512
00:23:32,721 --> 00:23:34,343
- [Announcer] Paxil works
to correct this imbalance
513
00:23:34,343 --> 00:23:35,828
to relieve anxiety.
514
00:23:35,828 --> 00:23:37,623
- I think what's
happened over the course
515
00:23:37,623 --> 00:23:40,315
of the last 30 years is
a kind of perfect storm
516
00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:42,455
in psychiatric diagnosis.
517
00:23:42,455 --> 00:23:45,182
- The most common symptoms
include rapid heartbeat,
518
00:23:45,182 --> 00:23:47,633
trembling, sweating,
tense muscles--
519
00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:50,429
- People have to understand
that these diagnoses
520
00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:54,950
that one hears on every
street corner are diagnoses
521
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:57,677
that are being marketed
for commercial profit.
522
00:23:57,677 --> 00:24:00,853
They don't necessarily
correspond at all
523
00:24:00,853 --> 00:24:03,062
to what your
underlying problem is.
524
00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:06,928
- Medicalization is
a huge, huge issue.
525
00:24:06,928 --> 00:24:10,449
And psychiatry is the
easiest area to medicalize
526
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:13,693
because we don't have the
biological gold standard.
527
00:24:13,693 --> 00:24:17,973
- The country is bathing
itself in prescribed drugs.
528
00:24:20,217 --> 00:24:22,978
There's already an
enormously high rate
529
00:24:22,978 --> 00:24:25,222
of diagnosis of
anxiety disorders.
530
00:24:25,222 --> 00:24:29,122
And in a recent study, it
turned out that by age 32,
531
00:24:29,122 --> 00:24:33,299
50% of the population might
qualify for an anxiety disorder.
532
00:24:33,299 --> 00:24:34,473
Get that.
533
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:37,510
Age 32, 50% of the
population might qualify
534
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:39,478
for an anxiety disorder.
535
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:40,893
- [Narrator] To qualify,
536
00:24:40,893 --> 00:24:43,930
patients must meet the
criteria published in the DSM.
537
00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:48,935
It's a document that is
always being revised,
538
00:24:48,935 --> 00:24:52,836
often to include more and more
symptoms and new diagnoses.
539
00:24:54,216 --> 00:24:56,633
It's a trend that worries
former chairperson,
540
00:24:56,633 --> 00:24:58,842
Dr. Allen Frances.
541
00:24:58,842 --> 00:25:01,638
- It seems like the system
is way too loose already
542
00:25:01,638 --> 00:25:05,400
and what DSM-5 is suggesting
is to open the gates way wider
543
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,161
and make it much easier to
get an anxiety disorder.
544
00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:12,269
There's a new proposal
for a diagnosis
545
00:25:12,269 --> 00:25:15,479
of mixed anxiety-depression
that would be, I think,
546
00:25:15,479 --> 00:25:19,518
very much equivalent to the
everyday worries, tensions,
547
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:22,969
stresses, problems
that all people have.
548
00:25:22,969 --> 00:25:26,145
And this is likely to
become, from nowhere,
549
00:25:26,145 --> 00:25:28,596
the most common
diagnosis in psychiatry.
550
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:34,222
This would be a
needless increase of
psychiatric diagnosis.
551
00:25:34,222 --> 00:25:37,087
A medicalization of normality,
552
00:25:37,087 --> 00:25:39,883
making pathological the
worries and troubles
553
00:25:39,883 --> 00:25:42,126
that are a natural part
of the human condition
554
00:25:42,126 --> 00:25:44,266
and that we shouldn't
turn routinely
555
00:25:44,266 --> 00:25:45,544
into a medical disorder.
556
00:25:46,959 --> 00:25:48,270
- [Narrator] One of
the doctors charged
557
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:50,065
with reviewing anxiety disorders
558
00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:53,241
for the new DSM is
Helen Blair Simpson.
559
00:25:54,656 --> 00:25:57,797
- Mixed anxiety-depression
is a hotly contested issue.
560
00:25:58,936 --> 00:26:01,490
This is something that
people worry about
561
00:26:01,490 --> 00:26:03,285
and there's always
that sort of balance
562
00:26:03,285 --> 00:26:06,047
between how do you
make sure someone
563
00:26:06,047 --> 00:26:08,739
who is ill gets the diagnosis
564
00:26:08,739 --> 00:26:13,433
and how do you make sure that
someone who's not ill doesn't.
565
00:26:13,433 --> 00:26:18,128
- This session really
continues the road to DSM-5.
566
00:26:18,128 --> 00:26:20,302
- [Narrator] Perhaps the
most important psychiatrist
567
00:26:20,302 --> 00:26:23,098
in the world today
is Dr. David Kupfer.
568
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:27,033
As chair of the DSM-5 Taskforce,
569
00:26:27,033 --> 00:26:30,589
he is the man with the
final say on what will be
570
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:33,522
and what won't be
a mental illness.
571
00:26:33,522 --> 00:26:36,940
- What we all were asking
ourselves to do was
572
00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:41,600
to basically look at everything
that was in the DSM-4
573
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,534
and say, "If it's working
well, leave it alone."
574
00:26:45,534 --> 00:26:48,089
Nobody has been
instructed [laughs]
575
00:26:48,089 --> 00:26:50,332
to look for more disorders.
576
00:26:50,332 --> 00:26:51,679
We are making changes
577
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:55,959
because we believe that
will serve us better
578
00:26:55,959 --> 00:26:58,962
in terms of dealing with
patients and families.
579
00:26:58,962 --> 00:27:02,517
- I think that the DSM-5
has an important job to do,
580
00:27:02,517 --> 00:27:04,174
but it's doing just the opposite
581
00:27:04,174 --> 00:27:05,969
of what I would be suggesting.
582
00:27:05,969 --> 00:27:08,316
I think that the
appropriate function
583
00:27:08,316 --> 00:27:10,387
of psychiatric diagnosis now,
584
00:27:10,387 --> 00:27:12,803
should be to try
to tame the tiger.
585
00:27:12,803 --> 00:27:14,805
To try to indicate in the manual
586
00:27:14,805 --> 00:27:16,876
with big, black-box warnings,
587
00:27:16,876 --> 00:27:19,223
"This diagnosis
is being overused.
588
00:27:19,223 --> 00:27:21,225
"Here are the key
steps to making sure
589
00:27:21,225 --> 00:27:24,228
"that you're making this
diagnosis appropriately."
590
00:27:24,228 --> 00:27:27,266
Instead, what DSM-5 is doing
is opening the floodgates.
591
00:27:27,266 --> 00:27:28,577
- The number of diagnoses
592
00:27:28,577 --> 00:27:31,235
in the DSM system
continues to increase.
593
00:27:31,235 --> 00:27:33,962
In reality, if you look at the
different forms of illness,
594
00:27:33,962 --> 00:27:36,344
there are only four
or five major forms
595
00:27:36,344 --> 00:27:39,105
of psychiatric illnesses,
there aren't 400.
596
00:27:39,105 --> 00:27:40,520
This is a classic conflict
597
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,212
between the splitters
and the lumpers.
598
00:27:42,212 --> 00:27:46,043
Splitters are people who
say, "We must make evermore
599
00:27:46,043 --> 00:27:50,289
"finely differentiated
distinctions among
kinds of behavior
600
00:27:50,289 --> 00:27:52,671
"that we consider
to be pathological."
601
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:54,224
The lumpers say, "Well,
you know, there are only
602
00:27:54,224 --> 00:27:57,089
"about four or five things
that can really go wrong."
603
00:27:57,089 --> 00:27:59,367
I'm very much a lumper,
604
00:27:59,367 --> 00:28:01,852
but the future belongs
to the splitters.
605
00:28:01,852 --> 00:28:05,062
[somber music]
606
00:28:05,062 --> 00:28:06,788
- [Narrator] Imagine a society
607
00:28:06,788 --> 00:28:08,548
in which all the new disorders
608
00:28:08,548 --> 00:28:12,691
currently proposed for
the DSM-5, were accepted
609
00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:15,038
and became real diagnoses
610
00:28:15,038 --> 00:28:17,730
to be used in everyday
medical practice.
611
00:28:22,424 --> 00:28:25,531
- They'll go from period to
period, from decade to decade,
612
00:28:25,531 --> 00:28:28,258
from saying Homosexual
new-ality is a disorder,
613
00:28:28,258 --> 00:28:30,260
to saying overeating
is a disorder.
614
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:32,814
To saying whatever the
thing of the day is
615
00:28:32,814 --> 00:28:35,265
that people are not
necessarily comfortable with,
616
00:28:35,265 --> 00:28:37,716
that they may decide
is disordered.
617
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,372
So, in this funny, funny way,
618
00:28:39,372 --> 00:28:42,859
we've actually
compartmentalized our entire,
619
00:28:42,859 --> 00:28:46,690
sort of, human personality
into billable coding systems.
620
00:28:49,313 --> 00:28:53,283
- For example, my wife died
on March 6th of this year.
621
00:28:53,283 --> 00:28:55,803
I had a grief
experience after that.
622
00:28:55,803 --> 00:29:00,221
The symptoms I had, couldn't
sleep, didn't want to eat,
623
00:29:00,221 --> 00:29:02,844
felt a lack of energy, sad,
624
00:29:02,844 --> 00:29:05,329
those are the symptoms
of depression.
625
00:29:05,329 --> 00:29:09,782
Now, it used to be that we said
that after a year of grief,
626
00:29:11,197 --> 00:29:12,992
if you still had those symptoms,
627
00:29:14,062 --> 00:29:17,894
then you had a
depression, not grief.
628
00:29:17,894 --> 00:29:19,447
What do we say now?
629
00:29:19,447 --> 00:29:22,795
We say if after two weeks
of the death of a spouse,
630
00:29:22,795 --> 00:29:27,800
a child or a parent, if you
still have those symptoms,
631
00:29:29,215 --> 00:29:30,838
you can be diagnosed as
having depressive disorder.
632
00:29:32,046 --> 00:29:34,324
- It's very clear to me
that it's not a question
633
00:29:34,324 --> 00:29:37,223
that too many people are
getting too much treatment.
634
00:29:37,223 --> 00:29:39,398
I think, to some extent,
there are a lot people
635
00:29:39,398 --> 00:29:41,572
who are not getting
enough treatment
636
00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:44,921
and I worry more about
that, to be honest with you.
637
00:29:46,060 --> 00:29:49,270
- A new diagnosis in
psychiatry is dangerous
638
00:29:49,270 --> 00:29:51,824
because tens of millions
of people may get medicines
639
00:29:51,824 --> 00:29:53,861
that previously, they
wouldn't have gotten
640
00:29:53,861 --> 00:29:56,380
and those medicines
may not be helpful.
641
00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:59,176
The biggest beneficiary
of diagnostic inflation is
642
00:29:59,176 --> 00:30:02,110
obviously the big
pharmaceutical companies.
643
00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:04,595
- You'd have to be
stupid as a manager
644
00:30:04,595 --> 00:30:06,874
in the pharmaceutical
industry not to realize
645
00:30:06,874 --> 00:30:09,842
that your bread and butter is
coming out of the diagnoses.
646
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,123
- Thinking about what the
pharmaceutical industry will do
647
00:30:15,123 --> 00:30:18,609
or not do is not
primary on the agenda
648
00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:21,750
of the taskforce, the work
group members, et cetera.
649
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:23,822
We have no control
650
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:28,585
over how, if you will,
companies, or researchers,
651
00:30:28,585 --> 00:30:33,555
or organizations spend
their money. [laughs]
652
00:30:33,555 --> 00:30:34,798
- I think that's the disconnect.
653
00:30:34,798 --> 00:30:37,387
And they don't feel
sufficiently responsible
654
00:30:37,387 --> 00:30:40,286
for the public health
unintended consequences
655
00:30:40,286 --> 00:30:41,943
of the decisions they're making.
656
00:30:41,943 --> 00:30:44,497
They're thinking of
the consequences only
in their practice,
657
00:30:44,497 --> 00:30:46,983
they're not thinking about
the unintended consequences
658
00:30:46,983 --> 00:30:48,018
in the real world.
659
00:30:49,986 --> 00:30:51,815
- [Narrator] Unintended
consequences,
660
00:30:51,815 --> 00:30:55,439
like creating a disease,
were nonexistent before.
661
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:59,927
That's the story of Paxil,
notorious as the landmark case
662
00:30:59,927 --> 00:31:02,964
in the multi-billion dollar
game of drug marketing.
663
00:31:04,414 --> 00:31:09,039
- Well, it was orchestrated
by GlaxoSmithKline's PR firm.
664
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,802
It was a very concerted,
very well-planned effort
665
00:31:13,802 --> 00:31:16,495
to publicize this disorder.
666
00:31:16,495 --> 00:31:17,565
- [Reporter] For some people,
667
00:31:17,565 --> 00:31:18,980
the fear of interacting
with others,
668
00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:21,569
in fact, any social
contact, is so acute that
669
00:31:21,569 --> 00:31:24,848
they go out of their way to
avoid all social situations.
670
00:31:24,848 --> 00:31:27,506
This is a condition known
as social anxiety disorder.
671
00:31:27,506 --> 00:31:29,888
- In the 19th century,
shyness was a virtue.
672
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:32,891
It was considered to
be a sign of character
673
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:34,927
and of good breeding.
674
00:31:36,032 --> 00:31:38,758
In our times, shyness
is a pathology.
675
00:31:38,758 --> 00:31:43,073
And we go to some length
treating shy people
676
00:31:43,073 --> 00:31:44,247
as if they were sick.
677
00:31:44,247 --> 00:31:46,076
Well, are they really sick
678
00:31:46,076 --> 00:31:48,389
or has the pharmaceutical
industry discovered
679
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:51,426
it can make money off
of treating shyness?
680
00:31:51,426 --> 00:31:52,669
- Well, the thought
681
00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:53,842
of public speaking
can send butterflies--
682
00:31:53,842 --> 00:31:55,879
- For someone suffering
from a phobia--
683
00:31:55,879 --> 00:31:58,123
- [Reporter] Tense
muscles, upset stomach--
684
00:31:58,123 --> 00:31:59,434
- [Reporter] It can
actually make living
685
00:31:59,434 --> 00:32:01,402
a day to day life
almost impossible.
686
00:32:01,402 --> 00:32:04,094
- I remember seeing all
these stories coming out,
687
00:32:04,094 --> 00:32:06,786
kind of at the same time in
many different publications
688
00:32:06,786 --> 00:32:09,203
and it was about this
social anxiety disorder.
689
00:32:09,203 --> 00:32:13,207
It all contained these
fantastic statistics saying
690
00:32:13,207 --> 00:32:14,933
what percentage of
Americans suffer
691
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:17,590
from this disorder
in a given year
692
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:20,455
and a lot of them
contained the same experts,
693
00:32:20,455 --> 00:32:23,286
seeing patients talking
about the disorder.
694
00:32:23,286 --> 00:32:24,943
- Studies have
shown that Paxil can
695
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,428
dramatically
decrease the symptoms
696
00:32:27,428 --> 00:32:29,533
of social anxiety disorder.
697
00:32:29,533 --> 00:32:31,363
- And so I was kind
of curious about,
698
00:32:31,363 --> 00:32:34,573
"Well, that's strange, all
of a sudden out of nowhere,
699
00:32:34,573 --> 00:32:36,230
"all of these stories
are popping up at once,
700
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:37,714
"what's going on with that?"
701
00:32:39,095 --> 00:32:41,580
- [Narrator] Brendan Koerner
began his investigation
702
00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:45,308
by trying to find out who was
behind all these news reports
703
00:32:45,308 --> 00:32:46,757
he was seeing on TV.
704
00:32:48,138 --> 00:32:50,761
- When I would trace back the
phone numbers they listed,
705
00:32:50,761 --> 00:32:53,385
I would see they would
trace back to PR firms
706
00:32:53,385 --> 00:32:56,457
that just happened to
represent GlaxoSmithKline,
707
00:32:56,457 --> 00:32:59,287
which was the
manufacturer of Paxil.
708
00:32:59,287 --> 00:33:01,324
Which, just coincidentally,
had just been approved
709
00:33:01,324 --> 00:33:02,566
to treat this disorder.
710
00:33:03,636 --> 00:33:04,879
- [Narrator] It turns out,
711
00:33:04,879 --> 00:33:06,812
they weren't real
news reports at all.
712
00:33:07,675 --> 00:33:10,264
Cohn & Wolfe, Glaxo's PR firm,
713
00:33:10,264 --> 00:33:14,095
was hired to produce a series
of video-news releases,
714
00:33:14,095 --> 00:33:16,477
easy enough to mistake
for the real thing,
715
00:33:16,477 --> 00:33:21,137
and sent them anonymously to
the TV stations across the U.S.
716
00:33:21,137 --> 00:33:22,862
- [Reporter] The good
news for the millions
717
00:33:22,862 --> 00:33:25,451
with this disorder is a
medication called Paxil,
718
00:33:25,451 --> 00:33:27,419
just approved by the FDA.
719
00:33:27,419 --> 00:33:30,077
It is the first and only
FDA-approved treatment
720
00:33:30,077 --> 00:33:32,631
for social anxiety disorder.
721
00:33:32,631 --> 00:33:37,636
- The company then hired PR
companies and other companies
722
00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:42,296
to encourage doctors
to become, "educated,"
723
00:33:42,296 --> 00:33:44,539
which it was really marketing.
724
00:33:44,539 --> 00:33:48,543
And to encourage the
public to reframe shyness
725
00:33:48,543 --> 00:33:49,613
into a disorder.
726
00:33:51,063 --> 00:33:55,240
- Paxil also developed
a quite cynical strategy
727
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,622
of ghostwriting, whereby
they contacted physicians
728
00:33:58,622 --> 00:34:00,107
and helped them create stories
729
00:34:00,107 --> 00:34:02,902
that could be plugged into
the medical literature.
730
00:34:02,902 --> 00:34:07,769
So, they buy credibility
by the use of an academic.
731
00:34:08,943 --> 00:34:10,600
- It's clear there was
a lack of disclosure
732
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,844
and real efforts on
the part of the PR firm
733
00:34:13,844 --> 00:34:16,675
to obfuscate the fact that
734
00:34:16,675 --> 00:34:19,781
this was ultimately
something propelled
735
00:34:19,781 --> 00:34:22,715
by a company looking
to sell a product.
736
00:34:22,715 --> 00:34:24,855
- Before the publicity
strategy started,
737
00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:29,067
there were 51 media
stories around the world.
738
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:32,311
One year after the
campaign had started,
739
00:34:32,311 --> 00:34:34,175
focusing on the concept of,
740
00:34:34,175 --> 00:34:37,109
"Imagine being
allergic to people,"
741
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:40,354
there were 1.5 billion
stories in the media.
742
00:34:40,354 --> 00:34:42,942
So it's remarkable how
743
00:34:42,942 --> 00:34:46,981
this became a kind of
a societal concept.
744
00:34:46,981 --> 00:34:50,709
- GlaxoSmithKline's revenues
jumped by 40% in 2001.
745
00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:54,506
They're not doing
anything illegal at all.
746
00:34:54,506 --> 00:34:56,956
It's very clear that
they're not breaking any law
747
00:34:56,956 --> 00:34:58,130
that I'm aware of.
748
00:34:58,130 --> 00:35:01,651
I think the debate
for people is ethics,
749
00:35:01,651 --> 00:35:04,447
which is a very distinct
thing from legality.
750
00:35:06,311 --> 00:35:08,382
- As long as there is, sort of,
751
00:35:08,382 --> 00:35:13,145
an untapped market of patients
running around out there
752
00:35:13,145 --> 00:35:15,182
who are not on your drug,
753
00:35:15,182 --> 00:35:19,669
you are gonna be hiring the
smartest marketing people
754
00:35:19,669 --> 00:35:23,742
in the world to figure out a
way to convince those people
755
00:35:23,742 --> 00:35:25,123
that they have a condition.
756
00:35:26,641 --> 00:35:27,884
- They put up all these signs
757
00:35:27,884 --> 00:35:30,507
on bus shelters
and on billboards,
758
00:35:30,507 --> 00:35:33,855
and there was this phone
number on there to call.
759
00:35:33,855 --> 00:35:36,513
I remember calling it
a few months afterwards
760
00:35:36,513 --> 00:35:37,894
and you got this
recording saying,
761
00:35:37,894 --> 00:35:40,931
"This campaign is
successfully concluded."
762
00:35:40,931 --> 00:35:43,210
So they kind of wrapped
it up pretty quickly
763
00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:47,697
and just said they'd declared
victory and moved on. [laughs]
764
00:35:47,697 --> 00:35:50,769
- Yes, Paxil is a
remarkable success story
765
00:35:50,769 --> 00:35:53,841
in how a company has been able
766
00:35:53,841 --> 00:35:57,016
to market a product by the,
767
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,814
you could call it,
creation of a disease.
768
00:36:01,814 --> 00:36:06,819
[receipts printing]
[bottles clicking]
769
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,443
- Most of the time, Mark,
it's circumstantial,
770
00:36:09,443 --> 00:36:10,892
wouldn't you say,
with the anxiety?
771
00:36:10,892 --> 00:36:12,031
- It's all situationally.
- Situations, yeah.
772
00:36:12,031 --> 00:36:13,550
- These are all
situational depression,
773
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:15,690
situational anxieties and
they're treated with drugs
774
00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:17,520
instead of just
trying to counsel
775
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,385
and try to eliminate those
factors that are causing it.
776
00:36:20,385 --> 00:36:21,731
It's the easy way out.
777
00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:22,973
- Yeah, it's like a crutch.
778
00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:24,389
- For the patient
and the doctor.
779
00:36:24,389 --> 00:36:26,598
- Right, it's the
fastest way to overcome.
780
00:36:26,598 --> 00:36:28,358
- Everyone's happy,
the pharmacy's happy,
781
00:36:28,358 --> 00:36:31,119
everyone's happy
but the patient.
782
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:32,914
Is the patient well served?
783
00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:34,709
I don't think so.
- No.
784
00:36:34,709 --> 00:36:37,540
♪ You've got a headache
785
00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:39,335
♪ And I've got some
strange disease ♪
786
00:36:39,335 --> 00:36:41,820
♪ Don't worry about it
787
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,098
♪ This pill will set
your mind at ease ♪
788
00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:47,101
♪ It's called Progenitorivox
789
00:36:47,101 --> 00:36:49,517
♪ It's made by SquabbMerlCo
790
00:36:49,517 --> 00:36:51,795
♪ It's life-enhancing miracle
791
00:36:51,795 --> 00:36:54,108
♪ But there are some
things you should know ♪
792
00:36:54,108 --> 00:36:57,145
♪ It make cause agitation
793
00:36:57,145 --> 00:36:58,388
♪ Palpitations
794
00:36:58,388 --> 00:37:00,701
♪ Excessive salivation
795
00:37:00,701 --> 00:37:01,667
♪ Constipation
796
00:37:01,667 --> 00:37:03,186
♪ Male lactation
797
00:37:03,186 --> 00:37:05,499
♪ Rust-Colored urination
798
00:37:05,499 --> 00:37:07,673
♪ Hallucinations,
bad vibrations ♪
799
00:37:07,673 --> 00:37:10,158
♪ Mild electric
shock sensations ♪
800
00:37:10,158 --> 00:37:15,163
♪ But it's worth it
for the drugs I need ♪
801
00:37:16,268 --> 00:37:17,614
- The thing I found
is they do work,
802
00:37:17,614 --> 00:37:20,376
but they make everything very,
803
00:37:20,376 --> 00:37:22,895
sort of an even shade of gray.
804
00:37:22,895 --> 00:37:24,828
Funny things aren't as funny.
805
00:37:24,828 --> 00:37:28,107
Sad movies don't give
you goosebumps any more.
806
00:37:28,107 --> 00:37:30,213
Poetry can't make you cry.
807
00:37:30,213 --> 00:37:33,078
- I was very
disinterested in things
808
00:37:33,078 --> 00:37:34,528
I used to be really
passionate about.
809
00:37:34,528 --> 00:37:37,669
And even my
boyfriend, I wouldn't,
810
00:37:37,669 --> 00:37:38,946
you know, it's like, "Hey."
811
00:37:38,946 --> 00:37:41,949
[laughs] I don't,
I just didn't have
812
00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:43,916
that kind of
attachment to anything.
813
00:37:43,916 --> 00:37:45,470
I felt really zombie-like.
814
00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:49,819
- They wind up placing people
on these drugs without,
815
00:37:49,819 --> 00:37:52,580
for instance, any real
sense of how difficult it is
816
00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:56,032
to get off them, or what
the side effects might be.
817
00:37:56,032 --> 00:37:58,448
With these drugs, you
can gain 50 pounds,
818
00:37:58,448 --> 00:37:59,932
you can get Diabetes 2.
819
00:37:59,932 --> 00:38:01,762
Like, they're
crazy side effects.
820
00:38:02,901 --> 00:38:05,386
- They are prescribed
almost like candy,
821
00:38:05,386 --> 00:38:07,146
more by primary care
doctors, actually,
822
00:38:07,146 --> 00:38:08,838
than by psychiatrists.
823
00:38:08,838 --> 00:38:12,566
I always have the impression
that patients believe
824
00:38:12,566 --> 00:38:15,672
that psychiatrists are
highly-knowledgeable
825
00:38:15,672 --> 00:38:19,400
about the neurobiology and the
underlying neurotransmitters,
826
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,299
which are the
chemicals in the brain
827
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:23,301
that underlie mental illness.
828
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,095
And I think it is surprising
when they find out
829
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:28,547
that we know very, very little
about how these drugs work.
830
00:38:28,547 --> 00:38:29,755
- They would give
you the sample packs
831
00:38:29,755 --> 00:38:31,309
and then prescriptions.
832
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:33,311
And then when you told them
how things were working out,
833
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:34,760
they would recommend
a different one,
834
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,798
"Try this one," and, "try this
in combination with this."
835
00:38:37,798 --> 00:38:39,420
Even though it is
fun to have someone
836
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:42,596
who I tell my all friends is
like Elvis Presley's doctor,
837
00:38:42,596 --> 00:38:44,563
it really isn't a good
way to control it,
838
00:38:44,563 --> 00:38:46,393
it feels very artificial.
839
00:38:46,393 --> 00:38:48,912
- We didn't discuss
cognitive behavioral therapy
840
00:38:48,912 --> 00:38:51,639
or any other kind of talk
therapy that might help,
841
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:56,023
or changes in your diet or
exercise that could help.
842
00:38:56,023 --> 00:39:00,268
It was straight to
the medication and to
a really high dose.
843
00:39:00,268 --> 00:39:02,478
- If the only tool
you have is a hammer,
844
00:39:02,478 --> 00:39:05,446
then everything you see is
going to look like a nail
845
00:39:05,446 --> 00:39:06,792
and it's the same
thing in psychiatry.
846
00:39:06,792 --> 00:39:08,932
If the only tool
you have is a drug,
847
00:39:08,932 --> 00:39:11,279
then everything you see is
going to look like something
848
00:39:11,279 --> 00:39:13,074
that's a medicable condition.
849
00:39:15,145 --> 00:39:18,252
- Mental health has
filled the whole space,
850
00:39:18,252 --> 00:39:19,702
that in prior times,
851
00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:23,809
was occupied by religion,
morality and by common sense.
852
00:39:23,809 --> 00:39:25,432
I feel there's a tragedy to this
853
00:39:25,432 --> 00:39:27,606
and this is a tragic story.
854
00:39:27,606 --> 00:39:30,678
- Social anxiety disorder
is an intense fear
855
00:39:30,678 --> 00:39:33,129
of everyday social interactions.
856
00:39:33,129 --> 00:39:37,029
- That's really a
life-impairing condition.
857
00:39:37,029 --> 00:39:38,686
- It's in the
newspapers all the time.
858
00:39:38,686 --> 00:39:40,067
It's in the magazines.
859
00:39:40,067 --> 00:39:42,759
It's on the internet,
the television.
860
00:39:42,759 --> 00:39:45,383
- Part of the reason anxiety
seems to be prevalent is
861
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:46,625
because it is prevalent.
862
00:39:46,625 --> 00:39:49,283
But another reason is
because it's become part
863
00:39:49,283 --> 00:39:51,389
of a vocabulary to talk
in psychiatric terms.
864
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,287
- Come on up here, Christine.
865
00:39:53,287 --> 00:39:55,462
- [Patricia] So we identify
ourselves as anxious
866
00:39:55,462 --> 00:39:57,395
in a way that we
wouldn't have before.
867
00:39:57,395 --> 00:40:00,605
- I've been taking Clonazepam
lately for anxiety,
868
00:40:00,605 --> 00:40:03,504
little blue pills that look
a lot like birth control.
869
00:40:03,504 --> 00:40:06,473
This guy I was seeing,
thought I was super-protected.
870
00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:07,646
[audience laughs]
871
00:40:07,646 --> 00:40:08,647
I thought, "I
might get pregnant,
872
00:40:08,647 --> 00:40:10,304
"but I'll just be cool with it."
873
00:40:10,304 --> 00:40:12,306
[audience laughing]
874
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,101
It was great, yeah,
it was really fun.
875
00:40:14,101 --> 00:40:17,380
'Cause it's taking very
difficult situations
876
00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:19,727
and making fun of them.
877
00:40:19,727 --> 00:40:21,936
It gave me a really
different perspective
878
00:40:21,936 --> 00:40:23,662
and sometimes took
the anxiety away
879
00:40:23,662 --> 00:40:25,423
from situations and the fear
880
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,666
'cause I could just
laugh about it.
881
00:40:27,666 --> 00:40:30,082
I ordered a coffee at
Starbucks the other day,
882
00:40:30,082 --> 00:40:32,430
I heard, "Tall, nutty one!"
883
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:35,087
I was offended, they just
yelled out my diagnosis.
884
00:40:35,087 --> 00:40:36,330
[audience laughing]
885
00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:38,436
- I don't think there's
as much of a stigma
886
00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:39,782
as there used to be.
887
00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:42,750
So many people just
openly discuss it now
888
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:45,339
and they just refer
to their therapists
889
00:40:45,339 --> 00:40:48,584
as though they were at their
neighbor's house last night,
890
00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:50,896
"I was at my
therapist's last night."
891
00:40:50,896 --> 00:40:53,899
I think there's really
no odd response,
892
00:40:53,899 --> 00:40:56,730
because they're all in
therapy, too. [laughs]
893
00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:59,077
- So we expect anxiety.
894
00:40:59,077 --> 00:41:01,597
Each of us gets the so-called
medical student syndrome.
895
00:41:01,597 --> 00:41:03,391
You know what the medical
student syndrome is?
896
00:41:03,391 --> 00:41:05,842
When a medical student is
taking a pathology course
897
00:41:05,842 --> 00:41:09,363
and turning the page and
reading about a new disease,
898
00:41:09,363 --> 00:41:11,434
like let's say a melanoma,
899
00:41:11,434 --> 00:41:14,264
and all of sudden, as he
reads, he looks at his hands
900
00:41:14,264 --> 00:41:16,681
and says, "Oh, my God,
I've got a mole there,
901
00:41:16,681 --> 00:41:18,061
"that could be a melanoma!"
902
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,204
- I'm sure that there's a
cultural component, too,
903
00:41:23,204 --> 00:41:26,484
because some cultures don't
even have a word for anxiety.
904
00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:29,038
It just doesn't exist
in certain cultures.
905
00:41:29,038 --> 00:41:30,729
It certainly exists in ours.
906
00:41:32,386 --> 00:41:34,526
- [Narrator] In fact,
anxiety has become
907
00:41:34,526 --> 00:41:37,218
so much a part of the
cultural discourse,
908
00:41:37,218 --> 00:41:41,429
anti-anxiety pills are now the
inspiration for art exhibits.
909
00:41:43,535 --> 00:41:44,881
- Below the crate?
- Yeah.
910
00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:47,781
- [Assistant] I just
want to make sure
911
00:41:47,781 --> 00:41:49,368
that our placement is
basically how you want it.
912
00:41:49,368 --> 00:41:50,577
- Well, they're
supposed to look like
913
00:41:50,577 --> 00:41:52,510
they just spilled
out of a pill bottle.
914
00:41:54,166 --> 00:41:55,374
[crowd muttering]
915
00:41:55,374 --> 00:41:57,653
We live in the age of anxiety.
916
00:41:59,068 --> 00:42:01,967
There's a correlation
between anxiety, in my view,
917
00:42:01,967 --> 00:42:04,729
and advanced capitalism.
918
00:42:06,247 --> 00:42:09,457
The pills that you see are
for anxiety and depression.
919
00:42:09,457 --> 00:42:12,875
And the thing that
I really want people
920
00:42:12,875 --> 00:42:16,948
to do is to talk
about this stuff,
921
00:42:16,948 --> 00:42:19,260
because it's a short-term fix
922
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:21,953
for a deeper problem
in our society.
923
00:42:21,953 --> 00:42:24,127
And I really do think
we have to stop it
924
00:42:24,127 --> 00:42:26,474
and if we just keep
medicating ourselves,
925
00:42:26,474 --> 00:42:30,686
we'll just kind of,
you know, fall asleep
926
00:42:30,686 --> 00:42:32,273
and that'll be the end of us.
927
00:42:33,689 --> 00:42:36,105
- [Narrator] In the space
of a single generation,
928
00:42:36,105 --> 00:42:39,522
anxiety has merged from the
fringe of mental illness
929
00:42:39,522 --> 00:42:42,456
to become completely mainstream.
930
00:42:42,456 --> 00:42:45,701
- We need to use both
behavioral techniques
931
00:42:45,701 --> 00:42:47,599
as well as medication.
932
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,568
- And what are the side
effects of the medications?
933
00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:52,777
- Sometimes we get aggression.
934
00:42:52,777 --> 00:42:54,433
Such as going down to the park
935
00:42:54,433 --> 00:42:57,229
and meeting a new animal,
instead of being calmer,
936
00:42:57,229 --> 00:42:59,369
the dog's a little more
aggressive with other dogs.
937
00:42:59,369 --> 00:43:01,958
So, let us know if that
happens, but that'll be rare.
938
00:43:04,374 --> 00:43:07,585
- One of my friends
once told me, he said,
939
00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:12,451
"Bill, we're living in
an uninhabitable culture,
940
00:43:12,451 --> 00:43:14,833
"no wonder you don't feel good."
941
00:43:14,833 --> 00:43:16,076
Whether it's any different now
942
00:43:16,076 --> 00:43:18,147
than it was through
history, I don't know?
943
00:43:18,147 --> 00:43:20,425
[suspenseful music]
944
00:43:20,425 --> 00:43:21,737
- Back in the 18th century,
945
00:43:21,737 --> 00:43:24,118
18th century London,
Boswell's London,
946
00:43:24,118 --> 00:43:25,326
believed that they were
947
00:43:25,326 --> 00:43:27,570
in a fast-paced urban
life on the Thames
948
00:43:27,570 --> 00:43:30,159
and they were all just totally
stressed out and so forth.
949
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,575
And they made that responsible
for their symptoms,
950
00:43:32,575 --> 00:43:34,715
so in a sense, there's nothing
new under the sun here.
951
00:43:34,715 --> 00:43:37,753
And the idea that, "Our lives
have speeded up particularly
952
00:43:37,753 --> 00:43:40,134
"so that now we're more
anxious than ever before,"
953
00:43:40,134 --> 00:43:41,584
is just a canard.
954
00:43:43,034 --> 00:43:46,624
- People have gone through
a lot of stuff in this life,
955
00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:49,419
war, famine,
pestilence, whatever.
956
00:43:49,419 --> 00:43:52,940
It's like, "Come
on, toughen up."
957
00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:54,770
I think maybe in the
former generations
958
00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:57,255
that was more of the attitude.
959
00:43:57,255 --> 00:43:58,636
I know they didn't
have the medications,
960
00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:00,845
weren't as good in those days.
961
00:44:00,845 --> 00:44:03,054
Fresh air and
laudanum and prayer.
962
00:44:05,125 --> 00:44:09,232
- My mom, her generation I'm
sure when she was growing up,
963
00:44:09,232 --> 00:44:11,959
wasn't something that
you really considered.
964
00:44:11,959 --> 00:44:14,893
For her, it's a lot of,
"Well, you know, walk it off,"
965
00:44:14,893 --> 00:44:17,482
or, "Suck it up," and
that sort of stuff.
966
00:44:19,449 --> 00:44:20,416
- [Friend] Would get
these fingernails.
967
00:44:20,416 --> 00:44:21,659
[group laughing]
968
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:22,832
- [Narrator] What has
changed over the years,
969
00:44:22,832 --> 00:44:24,592
aside from perceptions,
970
00:44:24,592 --> 00:44:27,872
is the way mental
illnesses are defined.
971
00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:30,391
- I mean, what's outside the
human condition that's normal
972
00:44:30,391 --> 00:44:34,257
if all of this is busy, it's
messy, it needs therapy?
973
00:44:34,257 --> 00:44:35,742
- [Friend] It's very scary.
974
00:44:35,742 --> 00:44:39,435
- Okay, so, based on what
we've all read together,
975
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:42,162
who has anxiety at this table?
976
00:44:42,162 --> 00:44:44,647
- You know I!
- Everyone!
977
00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:47,305
[friend laughs]
978
00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:49,479
- [Narrator] For Stephanie,
979
00:44:49,479 --> 00:44:51,723
like so many
university students,
980
00:44:51,723 --> 00:44:54,312
it's all about whether
or not to medicate.
981
00:44:55,382 --> 00:44:57,039
- It's what I'm experiencing.
982
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,351
Like, is it normal?
983
00:44:59,351 --> 00:45:02,700
I guess, like, I don't know,
'cause I kinda feel like
984
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:04,702
I'm freaking out
a little bit more
985
00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:07,670
than most of my friends
in the classes are.
986
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:09,603
Or, I don't know if
they're hiding it better
987
00:45:09,603 --> 00:45:10,811
or what's going on?
988
00:45:10,811 --> 00:45:12,951
- I will tell you,
it's fairly normal.
989
00:45:12,951 --> 00:45:14,435
What you're experiencing,
990
00:45:14,435 --> 00:45:16,230
many, many students
are experiencing.
991
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:17,715
It's hard to be at university.
992
00:45:19,302 --> 00:45:21,719
- [Narrator] Instead
of prescription meds,
at least for now,
993
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,963
Stephanie gets a list
of lifestyle changes.
994
00:45:24,963 --> 00:45:27,345
No scary movies before bed,
995
00:45:27,345 --> 00:45:29,623
warm milk, hot bath
996
00:45:29,623 --> 00:45:32,453
and doing some breathing
exercises regularly.
997
00:45:32,453 --> 00:45:35,387
- One of the reasons I kind
of go down this path is
998
00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:38,425
that a lot of kids your
age think that coming
999
00:45:38,425 --> 00:45:40,668
and getting a pill's
gonna solve the problem
1000
00:45:40,668 --> 00:45:41,911
and it's a temporary solution.
1001
00:45:41,911 --> 00:45:43,637
It really doesn't
solve sort of some
1002
00:45:43,637 --> 00:45:45,363
of the lifestyle changes
people need to make
1003
00:45:45,363 --> 00:45:47,917
to actually make
themselves healthier.
1004
00:45:47,917 --> 00:45:50,713
It's really some
coping strategies that
they need to develop
1005
00:45:50,713 --> 00:45:53,509
that'll do them, really,
much better in the long run
1006
00:45:53,509 --> 00:45:56,029
than to just kind of
mask the symptoms.
1007
00:45:56,029 --> 00:45:57,824
Does that seem like
a reasonable plan?
1008
00:45:57,824 --> 00:45:59,377
- Yeah, definitely,
1009
00:45:59,377 --> 00:46:00,619
especially 'cause I don't
like medications. [laughs]
1010
00:46:00,619 --> 00:46:02,069
So I'm glad that I
have better options.
1011
00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:05,590
- [Narrator] In
some cases, however,
1012
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:09,697
there may be no better
option than to medicate.
1013
00:46:09,697 --> 00:46:12,459
- I get a lot of
tension everywhere.
1014
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:16,774
Okay, [sighs] I'm
anxious, all right, okay.
1015
00:46:18,258 --> 00:46:20,570
[sighs] I also wonder if I
should take a Clonazepam?
1016
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:25,058
[laughs] [sighs] Okay.
1017
00:46:25,058 --> 00:46:26,507
I just express
myself a lot better
1018
00:46:26,507 --> 00:46:28,199
when I take my medication.
1019
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:32,168
- You know, everybody's scared
to admit they're on them.
1020
00:46:32,168 --> 00:46:33,687
For me, it's simple.
1021
00:46:33,687 --> 00:46:36,794
I mean, if I had cancer,
I would've gone on chemo,
1022
00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:38,347
I would've done the radiation,
1023
00:46:38,347 --> 00:46:40,936
I would've done what it was
my doctor told me to do.
1024
00:46:42,730 --> 00:46:45,768
It's what I take to stay
well and maybe that course
1025
00:46:45,768 --> 00:46:47,805
of therapy won't always
stay the same for me.
1026
00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:49,323
Maybe someday that will change,
1027
00:46:49,323 --> 00:46:51,601
maybe someday I'll come off it.
1028
00:46:51,601 --> 00:46:55,019
But in the meantime, I'm
treating myself for something
1029
00:46:55,019 --> 00:46:56,468
that makes me unwell,
1030
00:46:56,468 --> 00:47:00,127
so I can't beat myself
up for it anymore.
1031
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,752
- I think pharmaceuticals
have their place.
1032
00:47:04,752 --> 00:47:07,376
I mean, they've
saved people's lives.
1033
00:47:09,102 --> 00:47:10,551
And I don't think it
should be the only route
1034
00:47:10,551 --> 00:47:12,105
and I don't think it
should be the first thing
1035
00:47:12,105 --> 00:47:15,591
that a therapist pulls
out of their toolbox.
1036
00:47:15,591 --> 00:47:18,490
And I think that's
probably happening a lot.
1037
00:47:18,490 --> 00:47:21,321
That's why I choose not to,
even though it has been,
1038
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,325
it's recommended sometimes.
1039
00:47:25,325 --> 00:47:27,568
But that's my choice.
1040
00:47:29,398 --> 00:47:31,676
- [Narrator] In most
cases, there are other ways
1041
00:47:31,676 --> 00:47:34,990
to deal with anxiety
beyond taking a pill,
1042
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:38,648
including changes in
diet and exercise.
1043
00:47:38,648 --> 00:47:41,651
Mindful meditation has made
its way into grade schools.
1044
00:47:43,101 --> 00:47:45,172
Yoga is a global phenomenon.
1045
00:47:46,587 --> 00:47:49,970
- So you'll start by
just pressing the icon.
1046
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:52,214
- [Narrator] There's
even an app for anxiety.
1047
00:47:54,595 --> 00:47:55,838
- To me, anxiety isn't something
1048
00:47:55,838 --> 00:47:57,426
that you can sweep
just under the rug,
1049
00:47:57,426 --> 00:47:58,876
you have to deal with it.
1050
00:47:58,876 --> 00:48:02,362
And I just have to
remind myself to do that.
1051
00:48:02,362 --> 00:48:04,882
So, I try to take these
little steps during the day
1052
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,884
where I just say, "Okay,
I'm just gonna breathe,
1053
00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:09,162
"I'm just gonna breathe
and I'm gonna shut my eyes
1054
00:48:09,162 --> 00:48:11,129
"and I'm gonna count to five."
1055
00:48:11,129 --> 00:48:13,373
And then, start over.
1056
00:48:15,064 --> 00:48:16,410
And that seems to help.
1057
00:48:17,860 --> 00:48:19,413
- We have all have
to deal with it.
1058
00:48:19,413 --> 00:48:22,313
Everyone has baggage that
they have to live with
1059
00:48:22,313 --> 00:48:25,799
through their whole life,
mine had to be anxiety.
1060
00:48:25,799 --> 00:48:29,147
[somber music]
[rain pattering]
1061
00:48:29,147 --> 00:48:32,599
- [Narrator] But despite our
best efforts to tackle anxiety,
1062
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:36,396
as long as psychiatry
keeps expanding its domain
1063
00:48:36,396 --> 00:48:38,156
and drug companies
go on treating
1064
00:48:38,156 --> 00:48:40,779
your mental health like
a business opportunity,
1065
00:48:42,091 --> 00:48:45,923
we will continue to medicalize
the human experience.
1066
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:49,098
- The biggest problem
with being mislabeled
1067
00:48:49,098 --> 00:48:51,445
with a mental
disorder these days,
1068
00:48:51,445 --> 00:48:54,379
is that you're very
likely to get medication.
1069
00:48:54,379 --> 00:48:55,933
And in some instances,
1070
00:48:55,933 --> 00:48:58,728
the medication may be
remarkably harmful.
1071
00:48:58,728 --> 00:49:00,661
Bottom line is that the manual
1072
00:49:00,661 --> 00:49:03,837
of psychiatric diagnoses
should be cautioning
1073
00:49:03,837 --> 00:49:06,944
against over-diagnosis,
rather than encouraging it.
1074
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,915
- This is just a
terrible development
1075
00:49:12,915 --> 00:49:14,641
if you include
addictive disorders,
1076
00:49:14,641 --> 00:49:16,436
they say,
"Three-out-of-four-people
1077
00:49:16,436 --> 00:49:19,439
"on a lifetime basis will
have a psychiatric illness."
1078
00:49:19,439 --> 00:49:20,336
That's crazy!
1079
00:49:21,234 --> 00:49:22,614
- It's us, it's the doctors,
1080
00:49:22,614 --> 00:49:24,409
'cause we're the
gatekeepers of the drugs.
1081
00:49:24,409 --> 00:49:27,274
We're the ones that
write out prescriptions.
1082
00:49:27,274 --> 00:49:29,621
And one of the problems
in psychiatry is
1083
00:49:29,621 --> 00:49:32,831
that the pendulum
has really swung
1084
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:36,870
far too far toward
psychopharmacology,
1085
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:38,596
or the use of medications.
1086
00:49:40,253 --> 00:49:41,702
- What we are
doing, more or less,
1087
00:49:41,702 --> 00:49:43,601
is clinicizing human emotions.
1088
00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:47,122
So we're taking the
experience of being human
1089
00:49:47,122 --> 00:49:50,159
in all its complexity and the
way it used to be manifest
1090
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:55,130
in song and in scripture and
in theater and in poetry,
1091
00:49:56,579 --> 00:49:59,444
and we're turning it into a
broken-down piece of biology.
1092
00:50:03,828 --> 00:50:07,142
[frenetic string music]
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