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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,882 --> 00:00:10,363 Hi. My name's Michael Weatherly. 2 00:00:10,406 --> 00:00:13,148 Tonight's episode of Bull deals with a citywide panic 3 00:00:13,192 --> 00:00:14,802 not unlike the fears and concerns 4 00:00:14,845 --> 00:00:17,935 people are experiencing all over the world at this moment. 5 00:00:17,979 --> 00:00:20,329 Before we start, we wanted to remind you: 6 00:00:20,373 --> 00:00:22,244 this is a work of fiction. 7 00:00:22,288 --> 00:00:24,507 It was written and filmed months ago. 8 00:00:24,551 --> 00:00:27,554 And its only purpose is to entertain you. 9 00:00:30,035 --> 00:00:32,907 And that will do it for the headlines for the 9:00 hour. 10 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:34,822 We will see you back here at 9:30. 11 00:00:34,865 --> 00:00:39,435 For New York News 3, I'm Allison Rojas. 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,829 PRODUCER: And we're out.[buzzer sounds] 13 00:00:41,872 --> 00:00:43,831 LENA: Nice broadcast. 14 00:00:43,874 --> 00:00:46,181 Thanks.That new shade of lipstick, that looks great on camera. 15 00:00:46,225 --> 00:00:48,227 [laughs softly] 16 00:00:52,274 --> 00:00:54,407 Who would send me 17 00:00:54,450 --> 00:00:56,670 a birthday card two months before my birthday? 18 00:00:57,758 --> 00:00:59,107 [both gasp] 19 00:00:59,151 --> 00:01:00,717 Okay, this is not funny. 20 00:01:00,761 --> 00:01:02,719 Oh, no. It's in your hair.It's everywhere. 21 00:01:02,763 --> 00:01:04,634 I have to be back on the air in 23 and a half minutes.No, I'll get-get, 22 00:01:04,678 --> 00:01:07,246 uh, wardrobe and makeup.Hurry. 23 00:01:07,289 --> 00:01:08,682 [crew members speaking indistinctly] 24 00:01:11,076 --> 00:01:13,034 [woman speaking indistinctly over P.A.] 25 00:01:13,078 --> 00:01:15,123 MARK: Yesterday morning, my wife-- she woke up achy, nauseous. 26 00:01:15,167 --> 00:01:16,951 She had a bit of a fever, said her chest hurt. 27 00:01:16,994 --> 00:01:18,213 We thought it was the flu. 28 00:01:18,257 --> 00:01:21,564 But then, today, she started coughing up blood. 29 00:01:21,608 --> 00:01:22,913 Attendant, 30 00:01:22,957 --> 00:01:24,741 let's get her to Room One.MAN: Yes, Doctor. 31 00:01:24,785 --> 00:01:26,091 Let's page Dr. Farmer and the chief, 32 00:01:26,134 --> 00:01:28,397 and then alert the Health Department and the CDC. 33 00:01:28,441 --> 00:01:29,659 The-the CDC? 34 00:01:29,703 --> 00:01:31,705 Center for Disease Control? What's going on? 35 00:01:31,748 --> 00:01:33,054 ANCHOR: Government buildings 36 00:01:33,098 --> 00:01:34,664 remain closed and subway ridership 37 00:01:34,708 --> 00:01:36,318 is at its lowest level since 9/11 38 00:01:36,362 --> 00:01:39,191 as anthrax terror grips Manhattan. 39 00:01:39,234 --> 00:01:41,976 A quiet panic has descended on the city 40 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:44,239 as New Yorkers are trying to figure out who's behind this 41 00:01:44,283 --> 00:01:45,545 and when it will end. 42 00:01:45,588 --> 00:01:48,983 At this hour, the death toll remains at two. 43 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:50,724 The deceased are Katie Connors, 44 00:01:50,767 --> 00:01:52,552 who opened a birthday card addressed to her husband, 45 00:01:52,595 --> 00:01:55,381 Manhattan Congressman Peter Connors, 46 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:58,906 and Emmanuel Bakry, the postal worker who delivered it. 47 00:01:58,949 --> 00:02:00,864 But, finally, some good news. 48 00:02:00,908 --> 00:02:03,954 News 3'sAllison Rojas is responding to treatment 49 00:02:03,998 --> 00:02:06,522 after opening an anthrax-laden greeting card 50 00:02:06,566 --> 00:02:09,351 in this very studio more than a week ago. 51 00:02:09,395 --> 00:02:12,354 Doctors expect her and the four other News 3staffers 52 00:02:12,398 --> 00:02:15,575 who were taken ill to make a full recovery. 53 00:02:24,018 --> 00:02:26,020 [indistinct chatter] 54 00:02:31,721 --> 00:02:35,247 Folks, we're about to roll, so I need quiet. 55 00:02:35,290 --> 00:02:38,206 Five, four, 56 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:40,904 three, two... 57 00:02:42,950 --> 00:02:44,821 Good afternoon from ground zero. 58 00:02:44,865 --> 00:02:47,346 Here in Manhattan we're all collectively holding our breath, 59 00:02:47,389 --> 00:02:50,392 waiting for the next anthrax-laden shoe to drop. 60 00:02:50,436 --> 00:02:52,829 With that thought in mind, we thought we'd pay a visit 61 00:02:52,873 --> 00:02:56,442 to Hudson University, which is one of the foremost laboratories 62 00:02:56,485 --> 00:02:59,358 for the study of chemical weapons and bio-pathogens. 63 00:02:59,401 --> 00:03:02,404 We wanted to talk with Dr. Roger Simpkins, 64 00:03:02,448 --> 00:03:05,190 a microbiologist and researcher who runs this lab, 65 00:03:05,233 --> 00:03:07,366 which is financed in a combination of funding 66 00:03:07,409 --> 00:03:10,369 from the university and the government. 67 00:03:10,412 --> 00:03:13,067 Dr. Simpkins, any words of wisdom 68 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:15,809 or homespun advice for our viewers tuning in, 69 00:03:15,852 --> 00:03:18,377 missing work and school, doing everything they can 70 00:03:18,420 --> 00:03:21,118 to keep themselves from becoming a victim, 71 00:03:21,162 --> 00:03:23,251 falling ill, possibly even dying? 72 00:03:23,295 --> 00:03:24,687 The thing we all need to remember 73 00:03:24,731 --> 00:03:26,515 is that anthrax is not a virus. 74 00:03:26,559 --> 00:03:29,388 It's a bacteria, and that means you can't catch it. 75 00:03:29,431 --> 00:03:31,259 It can't be transmitted from person-to-person, 76 00:03:31,303 --> 00:03:33,261 so if you don't have direct contact with it, 77 00:03:33,305 --> 00:03:35,350 it poses no threat to you. 78 00:03:35,394 --> 00:03:38,048 So calm down. 79 00:03:38,092 --> 00:03:40,355 NEWSMAN: A-And I've been told that even if you do have direct contact, 80 00:03:40,399 --> 00:03:43,619 it's still not necessarily fatal. 81 00:03:43,663 --> 00:03:45,055 Absolutely true. 82 00:03:45,099 --> 00:03:48,276 If anthrax is identified early, it can be treated. 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,452 What makes it tricky is early anthrax symptoms 84 00:03:50,496 --> 00:03:52,193 look just like the flu. 85 00:03:52,237 --> 00:03:53,325 So unless your doctor knows 86 00:03:53,368 --> 00:03:55,675 that you've actually had contact with it, 87 00:03:55,718 --> 00:03:58,460 the disease can go undetected until the drugs we use 88 00:03:58,504 --> 00:03:59,983 to cure it are no longer effective. 89 00:04:00,027 --> 00:04:01,855 But it's been nearly 20 years 90 00:04:01,898 --> 00:04:04,118 since the last round of anthrax incidents. 91 00:04:04,161 --> 00:04:06,468 How is it there's still no cure for this stuff? 92 00:04:06,512 --> 00:04:08,905 SIMPKINS: Well, ironically, 93 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:12,300 uh, last year at this time, my, uh, colleagues and I 94 00:04:12,344 --> 00:04:14,389 were in the process of developing 95 00:04:14,433 --> 00:04:16,478 some very promising new late-stage anthrax treatments. 96 00:04:16,522 --> 00:04:17,697 NEWSMAN: Wait. 97 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:19,351 "Were"? 98 00:04:19,394 --> 00:04:22,919 Well, our funding, particularly with regard to anthrax research, 99 00:04:22,963 --> 00:04:25,313 comes from the federal government. 100 00:04:25,357 --> 00:04:28,795 And they pulled way back this year. 101 00:04:28,838 --> 00:04:30,884 What can I tell you? 102 00:04:30,927 --> 00:04:32,494 Go write your congressman. 103 00:04:37,934 --> 00:04:39,936 [knocking on door] 104 00:04:43,462 --> 00:04:45,855 SIMPKINS: The FBI is in my office. 105 00:04:45,899 --> 00:04:47,901 They've determined that the anthrax used 106 00:04:47,944 --> 00:04:49,903 in all these recent attacks 107 00:04:49,946 --> 00:04:51,948 comes from our labs. 108 00:04:53,385 --> 00:04:54,777 They want to talk to the three of you. 109 00:05:01,610 --> 00:05:04,352 What did you do? Get a second job? 110 00:05:04,396 --> 00:05:05,832 Aren't you afraid of dogs? 111 00:05:05,875 --> 00:05:07,573 Other postal workers going postal? 112 00:05:07,616 --> 00:05:09,357 TAYLOR: Not funny. It's just my mail 113 00:05:09,401 --> 00:05:11,054 for the last couple of weeks. 114 00:05:11,098 --> 00:05:13,274 I made the post office hold it for me. 115 00:05:13,318 --> 00:05:15,276 Once I found out the FBI arrested the anthrax killer, 116 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,886 I figured it was finally safe to pick it up 117 00:05:16,930 --> 00:05:18,105 and sort through it all. 118 00:05:18,148 --> 00:05:20,542 Won't be needing that anymore. 119 00:05:22,414 --> 00:05:24,372 Bull in his office? 120 00:05:27,375 --> 00:05:28,333 [chuckles] 121 00:05:30,509 --> 00:05:32,467 [knocking on door] 122 00:05:32,511 --> 00:05:34,339 I'm in the middle 123 00:05:34,382 --> 00:05:37,733 of some very important procrastination. 124 00:05:38,778 --> 00:05:42,390 Hey. Sorry to interrupt. 125 00:05:42,434 --> 00:05:44,392 Why are you so glum, Mr. Colón? 126 00:05:44,436 --> 00:05:45,393 Haven't you heard? 127 00:05:45,437 --> 00:05:48,396 It's a glorious day in New York. 128 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,442 Spring has sprung, 129 00:05:50,485 --> 00:05:52,226 Easter's barely a month away, 130 00:05:52,269 --> 00:05:53,923 and the anthrax killer is off the streets. 131 00:05:53,967 --> 00:05:57,274 We can put this whole dark chapter behind us. 132 00:05:57,318 --> 00:05:59,842 Well, actually, no, we can't. 133 00:05:59,886 --> 00:06:01,409 What does that mean? 134 00:06:01,453 --> 00:06:03,585 You remember, a couple of years ago, we signed up 135 00:06:03,629 --> 00:06:07,415 to be a part of that program where private firms offer 136 00:06:07,459 --> 00:06:10,331 their services to the public defender's office? 137 00:06:10,375 --> 00:06:13,247 No. I got nothing on that. 138 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:15,423 Must have been trying to get into somebody's good graces. 139 00:06:15,467 --> 00:06:17,077 What's the difference? We offered, 140 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,079 and this morning they called. 141 00:06:19,122 --> 00:06:22,604 Natalie Reznick, the accused anthrax killer, is facing 142 00:06:22,648 --> 00:06:25,302 two counts of capital murder and a slew of other charges. 143 00:06:25,346 --> 00:06:28,828 Well, she needs a defense team, and we're one of the few firms 144 00:06:28,871 --> 00:06:32,309 in the city with the expertise to handle that type of case. 145 00:06:32,353 --> 00:06:33,876 Well, just call 'em back and tell 'em no. 146 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,314 I have a newborn child and you have... 147 00:06:37,358 --> 00:06:38,881 Just say that 148 00:06:38,925 --> 00:06:40,927 we really appreciate the offer, but we are not interested 149 00:06:40,970 --> 00:06:43,669 in representing a terrorist at this time. 150 00:06:43,712 --> 00:06:45,279 An accused terrorist. 151 00:06:45,322 --> 00:06:47,368 I think you're missing the point. 152 00:06:47,412 --> 00:06:49,283 The federal defender's office wasn't asking 153 00:06:49,326 --> 00:06:50,458 when they called me this morning. 154 00:06:50,502 --> 00:06:51,677 They were telling. 155 00:06:52,721 --> 00:06:54,462 It's our case, Bull. 156 00:06:54,506 --> 00:06:56,246 Happy spring. 157 00:06:56,290 --> 00:06:58,292 ♪ 158 00:07:05,865 --> 00:07:07,562 I have no idea why I'm here. 159 00:07:07,606 --> 00:07:09,608 Surely you heard the FBI agent 160 00:07:09,651 --> 00:07:12,741 read you the charges before he took you into custody. 161 00:07:12,785 --> 00:07:15,396 You're being charged with murdering two people 162 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,182 with a Tier 1 federal select biological agent 163 00:07:19,226 --> 00:07:21,315 and terrorizing the city of New York. 164 00:07:21,358 --> 00:07:25,275 Yes, of course, but wh-why would they think I would do that? 165 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:26,451 Well, the evidence against you 166 00:07:26,494 --> 00:07:28,148 will be laid out at your arraignment, 167 00:07:28,191 --> 00:07:30,063 but based on the charging documents, 168 00:07:30,106 --> 00:07:31,717 the FBI has a pretty strong case. 169 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,370 How is that possible? 170 00:07:33,414 --> 00:07:35,372 BENNY: Well, when the funding for your anthrax research 171 00:07:35,416 --> 00:07:36,548 was cut last year, 172 00:07:36,591 --> 00:07:38,550 you sent out dozens of e-mails. 173 00:07:38,593 --> 00:07:41,204 To journalists, to politicians. 174 00:07:41,248 --> 00:07:44,512 The very people who've been the targets in these attacks. 175 00:07:44,556 --> 00:07:47,689 Well, y-yes, b-but that's... 176 00:07:47,733 --> 00:07:49,561 that's just a coincidence. 177 00:07:49,604 --> 00:07:52,389 The-the letters that I was writing were about 178 00:07:52,433 --> 00:07:57,525 how shortsighted and dangerous it was to cut that funding. 179 00:07:57,569 --> 00:08:00,397 Just because anthrax was out of the news did not mean 180 00:08:00,441 --> 00:08:03,139 that it was no longer a risk to national security. 181 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:04,532 BULL: Well, the U.S. Attorney's Office 182 00:08:04,576 --> 00:08:07,274 suspects that when your warnings fell on deaf ears, 183 00:08:07,317 --> 00:08:11,408 you orchestrated these attacks to prove a point. 184 00:08:11,452 --> 00:08:16,152 "Anthrax is still out there. It's still lethal." 185 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:19,939 That's absurd. I am a doctor, I am a scientist. 186 00:08:19,982 --> 00:08:22,637 The work that my team was doing was about saving lives. 187 00:08:22,681 --> 00:08:24,465 How on earth would killing people 188 00:08:24,509 --> 00:08:26,511 help us achieve that goal? 189 00:08:26,554 --> 00:08:29,078 If that's all they had, I'd agree with you. 190 00:08:29,122 --> 00:08:31,341 Are you aware that your office had been bleached 191 00:08:31,385 --> 00:08:33,039 before the FBI searched it? 192 00:08:33,082 --> 00:08:34,431 Yes. 193 00:08:34,475 --> 00:08:38,000 Bleach is a disinfectant. I work with pathogens. 194 00:08:38,044 --> 00:08:39,567 BULL: But yours was the only office 195 00:08:39,611 --> 00:08:42,004 in the complex to have been so recently 196 00:08:42,048 --> 00:08:43,745 and thoroughly bleached. 197 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:46,313 Bleach kills anthrax. 198 00:08:46,356 --> 00:08:49,403 It makes it appear as if you were destroying evidence. 199 00:08:49,446 --> 00:08:52,319 Your apartment had been bleached, too. 200 00:08:52,362 --> 00:08:56,889 And investigators found a stash of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin 201 00:08:56,932 --> 00:09:00,370 and a box of N95 face masks in your kitchen. 202 00:09:00,414 --> 00:09:01,850 They suspect you used both 203 00:09:01,894 --> 00:09:04,810 when you assembled the anthrax-laden birthday cards. 204 00:09:04,853 --> 00:09:07,160 I mean, the masks were-- I... 205 00:09:09,162 --> 00:09:12,382 I was gonna paint my bathroom. 206 00:09:12,426 --> 00:09:14,471 And I go on a medical mission every year. 207 00:09:14,515 --> 00:09:16,386 This year, it's Cambodia. 208 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:18,345 Last year, it was Honduras, 209 00:09:18,388 --> 00:09:20,347 Guadalupe. 210 00:09:20,390 --> 00:09:23,568 Anyway, my doctor gives me cipro before I go every year. 211 00:09:25,439 --> 00:09:27,180 I meant what I said. 212 00:09:28,181 --> 00:09:30,792 I have no idea why I'm here. 213 00:09:30,836 --> 00:09:32,402 [lock buzzes, latch clicks] 214 00:09:32,446 --> 00:09:34,317 BULL: I believe the woman. 215 00:09:34,361 --> 00:09:37,451 I mean, she says she has no idea what she's doing behind bars. 216 00:09:37,494 --> 00:09:39,061 I believe her. 217 00:09:39,105 --> 00:09:41,063 Okay. Well, that makes two of you. 218 00:09:41,107 --> 00:09:44,850 Unfortunately, the government sees it all quite differently. 219 00:09:44,893 --> 00:09:47,853 Yeah, government. You ever heard of detective myopia? 220 00:09:47,896 --> 00:09:50,551 Detective myopia? 221 00:09:50,595 --> 00:09:52,727 No. Can't say that I have. 222 00:09:52,771 --> 00:09:54,337 It is when law enforcement, 223 00:09:54,381 --> 00:09:57,253 usually because of extreme public or political pressure, 224 00:09:57,297 --> 00:10:00,387 picks a suspect and then evaluates all the evidence 225 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:03,869 with the predisposition that that suspect is guilty. 226 00:10:03,912 --> 00:10:05,653 And they stop looking for other suspects, 227 00:10:05,697 --> 00:10:07,089 they stop running down leads 228 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:09,265 that don't back up their predetermined theories. 229 00:10:09,309 --> 00:10:12,399 All their work goes into proving that their suspect, 230 00:10:12,442 --> 00:10:16,272 the person they picked at random is guilty. 231 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:18,971 City's in a panic. FBI needs 232 00:10:19,014 --> 00:10:20,537 to restore calm. 233 00:10:20,581 --> 00:10:23,453 Natalie presented as someone with access to the bacteria 234 00:10:23,497 --> 00:10:26,282 and an apparent motive, so they combed through her life 235 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,633 looking for ways to prove she did it. 236 00:10:28,676 --> 00:10:30,765 Detective myopia. 237 00:10:31,810 --> 00:10:33,159 [sighs] 238 00:10:33,202 --> 00:10:35,596 I think we need to argue for a change of venue. 239 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,771 [groans] 240 00:10:36,815 --> 00:10:38,860 Well-- I know legal strategy isn't exactly 241 00:10:38,904 --> 00:10:42,168 my area of expertise, but I have been going through 242 00:10:42,211 --> 00:10:46,259 the potential jury lists, and, well, given the panic 243 00:10:46,302 --> 00:10:49,436 and all of the publicity around this case, 244 00:10:49,479 --> 00:10:50,698 wouldn't we be likely to get 245 00:10:50,742 --> 00:10:52,221 a more impartial jury somewhere else? 246 00:10:52,265 --> 00:10:55,529 Somewhere that hasn't been through as much as New York has? 247 00:10:55,572 --> 00:10:57,705 That's not a bad thought, actually. 248 00:10:57,749 --> 00:11:00,273 You know, the problem is, it's next to impossible 249 00:11:00,316 --> 00:11:04,277 to get a change of venue in a federal criminal case. 250 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,365 I'm just worried. 251 00:11:05,408 --> 00:11:07,280 No matter how I look at the data, 252 00:11:07,323 --> 00:11:09,978 I just don't know how we're gonna seat a jury 253 00:11:10,022 --> 00:11:12,328 that can look past their own fears. 254 00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:14,200 That's why we shouldn't try. 255 00:11:14,243 --> 00:11:16,681 In fact, we should do just the opposite. 256 00:11:16,724 --> 00:11:19,335 We should scare the living daylights out of 'em. 257 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:21,250 People are predisposed 258 00:11:21,294 --> 00:11:22,774 to convicting Natalie because they want to believe 259 00:11:22,817 --> 00:11:24,123 that the danger has passed. 260 00:11:24,166 --> 00:11:26,995 So what we need to do is convince the jury... 261 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:29,476 that it hasn't. 262 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:32,392 Anybody remember the last time 263 00:11:32,435 --> 00:11:35,134 we had a series of anthrax attacks? 264 00:11:35,177 --> 00:11:38,137 It was right after 9/11, wasn't it? 265 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:39,616 BENNY: Yes, yes. Very good. 266 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:41,357 And do you remember how long 267 00:11:41,401 --> 00:11:43,316 it took for them to find the perpetrator? 268 00:11:43,359 --> 00:11:44,926 WOMAN: Uh... 269 00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:46,362 I seem to recall it was pretty quick. 270 00:11:46,406 --> 00:11:48,060 Indeed it was. 271 00:11:48,103 --> 00:11:50,236 Attorney General John Ashcroft 272 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:55,284 publicly named former biodefense researcher Steven Jay Hatfill 273 00:11:55,328 --> 00:11:57,591 as a person of interest in the attacks. 274 00:11:57,634 --> 00:12:00,289 FBI tapped his phone. 275 00:12:00,333 --> 00:12:03,031 He lost his job, couldn't get another one. 276 00:12:03,075 --> 00:12:04,511 Almost committed suicide. 277 00:12:04,554 --> 00:12:06,992 Then,in 2008, 278 00:12:07,035 --> 00:12:08,994 everyone suddenly realized 279 00:12:09,037 --> 00:12:11,300 that they were persecuting the wrong man. 280 00:12:11,344 --> 00:12:13,955 So here's my question to you. 281 00:12:13,999 --> 00:12:16,218 How many of you folks believe that, of course, 282 00:12:16,262 --> 00:12:19,308 with all the best intentions in the world, 283 00:12:19,352 --> 00:12:22,747 people whose job it is to root out the bad guys 284 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:25,401 sometimes get it wrong? 285 00:12:32,234 --> 00:12:34,367 Now we're getting somewhere. 286 00:12:36,369 --> 00:12:38,327 CHUNK: Means, motive and opportunity-- 287 00:12:38,371 --> 00:12:39,981 they must feel they have it, 288 00:12:40,025 --> 00:12:41,243 or they wouldn't have brought the case. 289 00:12:41,287 --> 00:12:43,028 For those of us who didn't go to law school, 290 00:12:43,071 --> 00:12:44,551 what does "means" mean again? 291 00:12:44,594 --> 00:12:46,814 It means she could do it; she had the tools necessary. 292 00:12:46,858 --> 00:12:49,208 In this case, anthrax. She worked at a place 293 00:12:49,251 --> 00:12:52,167 where anthrax was readily available. 294 00:12:52,211 --> 00:12:54,213 Yeah, but there's more to it than that. 295 00:12:54,256 --> 00:12:57,129 Every expert I've spoken with said the same thing. 296 00:12:57,172 --> 00:13:00,262 Researchers work with wetanthrax spores. 297 00:13:00,306 --> 00:13:02,482 To make a-a powder that can be sent in the mail, 298 00:13:02,525 --> 00:13:04,179 you have to use dry anthrax spores, 299 00:13:04,223 --> 00:13:06,660 and in order to dry them, you have to use a very specific, 300 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:09,228 very large piece of equipment built just for that purpose. 301 00:13:09,271 --> 00:13:10,446 Which, of course, they have at the lab? 302 00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:12,057 Which, of course, they have at the lab. 303 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:13,841 But all of that takes time. 304 00:13:13,885 --> 00:13:16,670 Stealing the anthrax. Drying the anthrax. 305 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:18,150 I've skimmed over this grand jury transcript 306 00:13:18,193 --> 00:13:20,587 three times-- I've yet to see an explanation 307 00:13:20,630 --> 00:13:23,155 for when Natalie would have been able to do that 308 00:13:23,198 --> 00:13:25,200 without raising suspicion.Obviously, 309 00:13:25,244 --> 00:13:28,073 they are saving their biggest surprises for trial. 310 00:13:28,116 --> 00:13:29,770 I'll give you another one. 311 00:13:29,814 --> 00:13:32,164 [taps keyboard]So, the FBI was able 312 00:13:32,207 --> 00:13:34,253 to determine that all the anthrax letters 313 00:13:34,296 --> 00:13:35,907 were mailed from this mailbox 314 00:13:35,950 --> 00:13:37,343 within a specific eight-hour period. 315 00:13:37,386 --> 00:13:38,953 Really? 316 00:13:38,997 --> 00:13:40,476 Well, since I'm the only one here 317 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,217 who hasn't worked for Homeland or FBI, 318 00:13:42,261 --> 00:13:44,393 can someone tell me how they do that? 319 00:13:44,437 --> 00:13:46,439 When you drop a letter into a government mailbox, 320 00:13:46,482 --> 00:13:48,441 it goes into a bin that's location-specific 321 00:13:48,484 --> 00:13:49,921 and time-coded. 322 00:13:49,964 --> 00:13:52,271 When that bin is carried back to the general post office 323 00:13:52,314 --> 00:13:54,186 for processing and your letter is postmarked, 324 00:13:54,229 --> 00:13:56,710 it carries all that information with it. 325 00:13:56,753 --> 00:13:59,669 [chuckles] Wow. That's really cool. 326 00:13:59,713 --> 00:14:02,107 And more than a little scary. 327 00:14:02,150 --> 00:14:03,848 Back to the pictures. 328 00:14:03,891 --> 00:14:06,198 All right, so, the FBI examined security footage 329 00:14:06,241 --> 00:14:08,591 from area cameras taken during the same time frame. 330 00:14:08,635 --> 00:14:11,072 They were able to eliminate all but three people 331 00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:13,248 who mailed letters during that period. 332 00:14:13,292 --> 00:14:15,250 Wha...? And how were they able to do that? 333 00:14:15,294 --> 00:14:17,992 How could they tell from these... grainy photos 334 00:14:18,036 --> 00:14:20,299 who's mailing anthrax and who isn't? 335 00:14:20,342 --> 00:14:23,345 Well, I can't be sure, but my suspicion is, 336 00:14:23,389 --> 00:14:25,695 what they really did was basically eliminate everyone 337 00:14:25,739 --> 00:14:27,393 who didn't look like Natalie. 338 00:14:27,436 --> 00:14:30,135 There is your detective myopia that Bull keeps talking about. 339 00:14:30,178 --> 00:14:32,311 And that left them with three people 340 00:14:32,354 --> 00:14:33,747 who didlook like Natalie? 341 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:35,923 Well, it left them with three people, 342 00:14:35,967 --> 00:14:37,577 like this person here. 343 00:14:38,621 --> 00:14:40,232 Or this person here. 344 00:14:41,233 --> 00:14:43,713 Or this person here. 345 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:48,544 People who don't really look like anyone in particular. 346 00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:50,938 At least not as far as I can tell. 347 00:14:50,982 --> 00:14:52,548 So what am I gonna tell Bull? 348 00:14:52,592 --> 00:14:55,943 Opening arguments, testimony start tomorrow morning. 349 00:14:55,987 --> 00:14:58,554 What in the world am I gonna tell Bull? 350 00:14:58,598 --> 00:15:01,383 Tell him that Danny and I are putting together dossiers 351 00:15:01,427 --> 00:15:04,473 on everyone Natalie works with, and... 352 00:15:04,517 --> 00:15:06,301 That our strategy hasn't changed. 353 00:15:06,345 --> 00:15:09,348 To get the jury and the public to let go of the idea 354 00:15:09,391 --> 00:15:11,176 that Natalie is the mastermind behind these attacks, 355 00:15:11,219 --> 00:15:15,180 we have to... come up with another credible suspect. 356 00:15:15,223 --> 00:15:16,790 And we will. 357 00:15:24,015 --> 00:15:27,235 REYNOLDS: Now, Dr. Poulson, as a researcher 358 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:29,194 in the Medical Countermeasures Unit 359 00:15:29,237 --> 00:15:30,847 at Hudson University Laboratories, 360 00:15:30,891 --> 00:15:33,241 you frequently work shoulder-to-shoulder 361 00:15:33,285 --> 00:15:34,590 with Natalie Reznick, 362 00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:36,462 don't you?Yes, I do. 363 00:15:36,505 --> 00:15:40,727 Now, it's against the lab's standard operating procedures 364 00:15:40,770 --> 00:15:42,424 for anyone to work alone? 365 00:15:42,468 --> 00:15:44,426 That's correct, yes.And to your knowledge, 366 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:46,124 Dr. Poulson, 367 00:15:46,167 --> 00:15:48,126 did Dr. Reznick 368 00:15:48,169 --> 00:15:51,956 ever simply disregard this tenet of standard operating procedure? 369 00:15:53,218 --> 00:15:56,134 Yes, I believe she may have. Once. 370 00:15:56,177 --> 00:15:58,658 [gallery murmuring]About a week before the attacks. 371 00:15:58,701 --> 00:16:00,094 REYNOLDS: You're referring to the evening 372 00:16:00,138 --> 00:16:02,053 of the 11th?I don't know what he's talking about. 373 00:16:02,096 --> 00:16:05,012 POULSON: It was late. We were the only two people in the lab. 374 00:16:05,056 --> 00:16:07,710 And at around 7:00 p.m., I got summoned 375 00:16:07,754 --> 00:16:10,409 to the chancellor's office for a call with D.C. 376 00:16:10,452 --> 00:16:13,934 Much of the work we do at our labs 377 00:16:13,978 --> 00:16:16,371 is in partnership with the Department 378 00:16:16,415 --> 00:16:18,852 of Defense, so when they say jump, 379 00:16:18,895 --> 00:16:20,897 we jump. 380 00:16:20,941 --> 00:16:23,683 And I told Natalie to... 381 00:16:23,726 --> 00:16:27,382 clean up and that we would finish up another day. 382 00:16:27,426 --> 00:16:30,559 So I left her unattended. 383 00:16:30,603 --> 00:16:33,780 Which, as the senior researcher, I shouldn't have done. 384 00:16:33,823 --> 00:16:37,131 But she assured me that she would just take a few minutes 385 00:16:37,175 --> 00:16:39,786 and then she would leave.Just to be clear. 386 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:42,919 Your expectation was that Dr. Reznick 387 00:16:42,963 --> 00:16:44,747 would take five, maybe ten minutes 388 00:16:44,791 --> 00:16:46,923 to clean up the lab and then leave. 389 00:16:46,967 --> 00:16:47,968 Correct? 390 00:16:48,012 --> 00:16:49,883 That was my assumption, yes. 391 00:16:49,926 --> 00:16:51,972 Dr. Poulson... 392 00:16:52,016 --> 00:16:54,583 this is a single frame 393 00:16:54,627 --> 00:16:57,934 from security footage taken from the night in question. 394 00:16:57,978 --> 00:17:01,590 It shows someone leaving the laboratory complex at Hudson. 395 00:17:01,634 --> 00:17:03,331 Can you identify that person? 396 00:17:03,375 --> 00:17:05,768 It's Dr. Reznick.And could you read 397 00:17:05,812 --> 00:17:08,641 the time stamp on the photo for us, please? 398 00:17:08,684 --> 00:17:11,731 9:26 p.m. 399 00:17:11,774 --> 00:17:13,994 9:26 p.m. 400 00:17:14,038 --> 00:17:18,085 Two and a half hours after you left the lab, correct? 401 00:17:18,129 --> 00:17:19,347 Yes. 402 00:17:19,391 --> 00:17:21,001 Dr. Poulson, 403 00:17:21,045 --> 00:17:23,438 in your professional opinion, if Dr. Reznick had been alone 404 00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:26,572 in that lab, not just for a few minutes to clean up, 405 00:17:26,615 --> 00:17:29,705 but for several hours, would that have given her enough time 406 00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:32,882 to dry the anthrax spores into a powder 407 00:17:32,926 --> 00:17:35,189 and sneak them out of the lab? 408 00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:38,149 Objection, Your Honor! Calls for speculation. 409 00:17:38,192 --> 00:17:39,454 REYNOLDS: Your Honor, 410 00:17:39,498 --> 00:17:40,934 Dr. Poulson is a microbiologist. 411 00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:43,980 I'm simply asking him for his professional opinion. 412 00:17:44,024 --> 00:17:45,852 Objection overruled. 413 00:17:45,895 --> 00:17:48,115 I'll allow him to answer. 414 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,771 I believe it would have, yes. 415 00:17:51,814 --> 00:17:55,992 [gallery murmuring]REYNOLDS: No further questions for now, Your Honor. 416 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,868 [clears throat] 417 00:18:03,043 --> 00:18:05,045 Dr. Poulson. 418 00:18:05,089 --> 00:18:07,439 Really appreciate you being here today. 419 00:18:07,482 --> 00:18:09,963 Now, I know we've heard a lot of speculation 420 00:18:10,006 --> 00:18:12,922 about what might have happened, what could have happened, 421 00:18:12,966 --> 00:18:15,751 but you are a scientist. 422 00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:19,320 You deal with the physical facts of the world. 423 00:18:19,364 --> 00:18:21,931 So let's get back to that. 424 00:18:21,975 --> 00:18:23,890 Do you have any proof 425 00:18:23,933 --> 00:18:26,936 that Dr. Reznick stayed in the lab alone 426 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:30,026 any longer than she told you she would? 427 00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:31,898 Well, based on the time stamp... 428 00:18:31,941 --> 00:18:35,119 Oh, no, no. That time stamp only proves 429 00:18:35,162 --> 00:18:37,382 what time she left the building, 430 00:18:37,425 --> 00:18:40,863 which was two and a half hours after you did. 431 00:18:40,907 --> 00:18:42,822 Nowhere does it indicate 432 00:18:42,865 --> 00:18:45,781 what time she left the lab itself, does it? 433 00:18:46,826 --> 00:18:49,524 No, it doesn't.Uh-huh. 434 00:18:49,568 --> 00:18:54,050 Now, Dr. Reznick maintains she left the lab 435 00:18:54,094 --> 00:18:56,792 as promised and spent the remainder of that time 436 00:18:56,836 --> 00:19:01,362 in her office typing a report of the day's work. 437 00:19:01,406 --> 00:19:03,408 In fact... 438 00:19:03,451 --> 00:19:07,107 you reviewed that very report the next morning, didn't you? 439 00:19:07,151 --> 00:19:08,500 It's quite possible. 440 00:19:08,543 --> 00:19:10,806 I often review the reports from the previous night 441 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:12,939 the next morning.I see. 442 00:19:12,982 --> 00:19:16,943 And before the FBI informed you that Dr. Reznick was a suspect, 443 00:19:16,986 --> 00:19:20,120 did you have any reason to suspect her of this crime? 444 00:19:20,164 --> 00:19:21,469 No. 445 00:19:23,776 --> 00:19:27,475 I've always believed Natalie to be trustworthy and... 446 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:29,303 a passionate scientist. 447 00:19:29,347 --> 00:19:31,610 And I'm still inclined to believe so. 448 00:19:31,653 --> 00:19:33,612 I mean, hon... [sighs] 449 00:19:33,655 --> 00:19:35,527 honestly... 450 00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:38,878 I hope the version of events you just laid out is the truth. 451 00:19:39,922 --> 00:19:43,187 Thank you very much, Dr. Poulson. 452 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:45,580 No further questions, Your Honor. 453 00:19:47,278 --> 00:19:48,409 Redirect? 454 00:19:49,454 --> 00:19:52,239 Regardless of what you might hope, 455 00:19:52,283 --> 00:19:54,241 Dr. Poulson, 456 00:19:54,285 --> 00:19:57,244 doesn't the fact remain that a pathogen was stolen 457 00:19:57,288 --> 00:19:58,767 from your lab? 458 00:19:59,768 --> 00:20:01,161 [quietly]: Yes. And based 459 00:20:01,205 --> 00:20:03,294 on your own testimony, wouldn't you agree 460 00:20:03,337 --> 00:20:07,211 that Dr. Reznick was the only researcher 461 00:20:07,254 --> 00:20:08,908 who could possibly have had an opportunity 462 00:20:08,951 --> 00:20:10,475 to do it?Asked and answered, 463 00:20:10,518 --> 00:20:11,563 Your Honor. 464 00:20:11,606 --> 00:20:13,521 Counsel is badgering the witness. 465 00:20:13,565 --> 00:20:16,132 [gallery murmuring]I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor. 466 00:20:16,176 --> 00:20:18,396 How's the view from where you're sitting? 467 00:20:18,439 --> 00:20:20,006 The only good news is, 468 00:20:20,049 --> 00:20:22,530 it can't get any worse. 469 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:30,190 [Benny sighing] 470 00:20:33,976 --> 00:20:36,283 I'm awake. It's okay. 471 00:20:36,327 --> 00:20:39,112 [chuckles] Partying all night with Astrid again, huh? 472 00:20:39,155 --> 00:20:40,287 [yawns]: Yeah. 473 00:20:42,507 --> 00:20:45,292 I was sitting in the living room at 3:00 in the morning, 474 00:20:45,336 --> 00:20:46,467 little Astrid up on my shoulder. 475 00:20:46,511 --> 00:20:48,513 I was trying to get a burp out of her. 476 00:20:48,556 --> 00:20:51,298 And I flip on the news, and we're everywhere. 477 00:20:51,342 --> 00:20:53,344 Mm-hmm.Every channel. 478 00:20:53,387 --> 00:20:56,129 And if it is our intention to convince the jury 479 00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:58,784 that the real anthrax killer is still out there, 480 00:20:58,827 --> 00:21:02,266 well, the national media has not picked up on it. 481 00:21:02,309 --> 00:21:04,311 Which means... 482 00:21:04,355 --> 00:21:06,095 we're failing. 483 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:09,316 Well, you don't know that. 484 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,405 Our target's the jury, not cable news. 485 00:21:11,449 --> 00:21:13,364 But the world of cable news is the world 486 00:21:13,407 --> 00:21:15,191 these jurors go home to every night. 487 00:21:15,235 --> 00:21:18,194 And if the CNNs and the Foxes and the CNBCs aren't buying 488 00:21:18,238 --> 00:21:19,935 our version of events, then neither 489 00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:23,330 are the jurors' families or neighbors. 490 00:21:23,374 --> 00:21:27,116 And we all know they're not supposed to talk about the case 491 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,383 or watch the news about it... but they do. 492 00:21:32,426 --> 00:21:35,995 I'm sorry, Bull, but I think you're being a little premature. 493 00:21:36,038 --> 00:21:38,432 The prosecution is still presenting their case, 494 00:21:38,476 --> 00:21:40,434 and we haven't even gotten our turn. 495 00:21:40,478 --> 00:21:43,437 I know. But we can't wait until then. 496 00:21:43,481 --> 00:21:45,613 We have to go on the offensive now. 497 00:21:45,657 --> 00:21:48,050 We got to use every objection, every cross to hammer home 498 00:21:48,094 --> 00:21:51,663 how dangerous it will be if the jury gets this one wrong. 499 00:21:51,706 --> 00:21:55,014 The killer is still out there. 500 00:21:56,145 --> 00:21:58,365 CONNORS: My wife, my-my wife Katie, 501 00:21:58,409 --> 00:22:01,412 she didn't aspire to a political life. 502 00:22:01,455 --> 00:22:03,327 I mean, heck, when I met her in grad school, 503 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:04,850 she didn't even read the paper. 504 00:22:04,893 --> 00:22:07,374 But then we fell in love, and the next thing you know, 505 00:22:07,418 --> 00:22:11,117 I'm running for office and then we're out there together 506 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,424 on the campaign trail. 507 00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:15,643 Oh, she was a natural. 508 00:22:15,687 --> 00:22:17,776 I mean, she loved people. 509 00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:21,736 And people sensed it and they loved her right back. 510 00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:25,827 You see, I take enormous pride in being a congressman. 511 00:22:25,871 --> 00:22:27,916 But the thought that my job, 512 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,441 that my commitment to public service 513 00:22:30,484 --> 00:22:35,402 somehow contributed to her d-death... [crying] 514 00:22:35,446 --> 00:22:38,013 REYNOLDS: It's all right, Congressman Connors. 515 00:22:38,057 --> 00:22:39,885 No further questions. 516 00:22:39,928 --> 00:22:42,496 Uh, Bull, it's not looking good here. 517 00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:44,672 This jury really feels for the congressman. 518 00:22:44,716 --> 00:22:46,892 Of course they do. So do I. 519 00:22:46,935 --> 00:22:49,851 But that doesn't mean his pain is Natalie's fault. 520 00:22:49,895 --> 00:22:52,637 Congressman Connors. 521 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,422 I'd just like to say how profoundly sorry I am 522 00:22:55,466 --> 00:22:56,815 for your loss. 523 00:22:56,858 --> 00:22:58,251 Thank you. 524 00:22:58,294 --> 00:23:00,471 Now, much has been made of the fact 525 00:23:00,514 --> 00:23:04,213 that you were a part of a long list of legislators 526 00:23:04,257 --> 00:23:06,390 Dr. Reznick reached out to in the wake 527 00:23:06,433 --> 00:23:09,131 of a funding cut to her research program. 528 00:23:09,175 --> 00:23:12,308 Now, do you recall Dr. Reznick's 529 00:23:12,352 --> 00:23:15,442 message to you to be threatening in any way? 530 00:23:15,486 --> 00:23:17,139 Honestly, I don't. 531 00:23:17,183 --> 00:23:21,927 You see, my staff filters my e-mails, so I only learned about 532 00:23:21,970 --> 00:23:27,062 that message in the, in the aftermath of my wife's passing. 533 00:23:27,106 --> 00:23:30,152 But, no, it did not appear to be threatening. 534 00:23:30,196 --> 00:23:33,765 But I imagine your office must receive 535 00:23:33,808 --> 00:23:36,463 threatening e-mails from time to time? 536 00:23:36,507 --> 00:23:38,422 Yes, unfortunately, in my line of work, 537 00:23:38,465 --> 00:23:40,293 you have to make tough choices sometimes, 538 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:41,990 choices that anger people, 539 00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:44,732 and occasionally those people do lash out. 540 00:23:44,776 --> 00:23:49,302 How many threats would you estimate that you've received 541 00:23:49,345 --> 00:23:52,174 in the seven years that you've been in Congress? 542 00:23:52,218 --> 00:23:57,745 Uh, like I said, my staff filters my communications, 543 00:23:57,789 --> 00:24:00,182 so there's really no way for me to know. 544 00:24:00,226 --> 00:24:03,185 Well, my office inquired. 545 00:24:03,229 --> 00:24:07,102 And according to your staff, it's 102. 546 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:08,321 [gallery murmuring] 547 00:24:08,364 --> 00:24:10,192 That's how many unique threats 548 00:24:10,236 --> 00:24:13,369 your office has received in the past seven years. 549 00:24:13,413 --> 00:24:16,677 19 of those were death threats. 550 00:24:16,721 --> 00:24:18,853 So let me ask you, 551 00:24:18,897 --> 00:24:24,468 in the wake of these attacks, to the best of your knowledge, 552 00:24:24,511 --> 00:24:29,255 did the FBI investigate those 19 people 553 00:24:29,298 --> 00:24:32,040 who previously threatened to take your life? 554 00:24:32,084 --> 00:24:34,478 They may have. 555 00:24:34,521 --> 00:24:36,828 Honestly, I don't know. 556 00:24:36,871 --> 00:24:39,439 You don't know. 557 00:24:39,483 --> 00:24:43,182 Wow. That's kind of unsettling. 558 00:24:43,225 --> 00:24:46,315 I mean, did the FBI even ask you about 559 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,319 anyone who possibly could have had a vendetta against you 560 00:24:50,363 --> 00:24:51,973 during that time period? 561 00:24:52,017 --> 00:24:54,541 I don't know. 562 00:24:54,585 --> 00:24:58,763 Well, then I truly am sorry for you, Congressman Connors. 563 00:24:58,806 --> 00:25:02,506 Not only for your tragic loss, but also because, 564 00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:05,770 apparently, law enforcement seems more interested 565 00:25:05,813 --> 00:25:08,468 in scapegoating Natalie Reznick than it does 566 00:25:08,512 --> 00:25:11,645 in making sure your wife's real killer is off the streets. 567 00:25:11,689 --> 00:25:14,561 Objection. Counsel is testifying. 568 00:25:14,605 --> 00:25:16,302 Sustained. 569 00:25:16,345 --> 00:25:19,566 The jury will disregard the defense's last statement. 570 00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:21,437 Ask a question, Mr. Colón. 571 00:25:21,481 --> 00:25:22,743 That's all right, Your Honor. 572 00:25:22,787 --> 00:25:24,223 I have no further questions 573 00:25:24,266 --> 00:25:26,181 at this time.BULL: I'm sure you can't see it yet, 574 00:25:26,225 --> 00:25:28,488 but it finally feels like we're making progress. 575 00:25:28,532 --> 00:25:30,664 AIMES: The government will call its next witness, please. 576 00:25:30,708 --> 00:25:33,798 The government rests its case, Your Honor. 577 00:25:33,841 --> 00:25:37,497 Then the defense will call its first witness, please. 578 00:25:37,541 --> 00:25:40,326 My parents came to this country before I was born. 579 00:25:40,369 --> 00:25:42,807 They were scientists in the Soviet Union, 580 00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:44,809 but they refused to toe the party line, 581 00:25:44,852 --> 00:25:46,985 so their lives were in danger. 582 00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:50,510 They fled and they found sanctuary here, 583 00:25:50,554 --> 00:25:51,380 in America. 584 00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:53,339 And until the day they died, 585 00:25:53,382 --> 00:25:55,602 they never ceased being grateful for that. 586 00:25:55,646 --> 00:25:58,692 And they raised me to be grateful, too. 587 00:25:58,736 --> 00:26:02,522 I decided when I was 588 00:26:02,566 --> 00:26:04,437 a very young girl that, when I grew up, 589 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,439 I-I would help people somehow, 590 00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:08,354 protect people somehow. 591 00:26:08,397 --> 00:26:11,966 So, is that how you ended up researching cures 592 00:26:12,010 --> 00:26:14,055 for deadly biological weapons? 593 00:26:14,099 --> 00:26:17,232 Uh, well, it was... [stammers] 594 00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:19,452 It was part of it, sure. [chuckles] 595 00:26:19,495 --> 00:26:21,106 A love of science. 596 00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:23,325 I don't know. 597 00:26:23,369 --> 00:26:25,850 It-it-it gives me a sense of satisfaction, 598 00:26:25,893 --> 00:26:27,547 like I'm-I'm pulling my own weight, 599 00:26:27,591 --> 00:26:29,941 I'm doing my share. 600 00:26:29,984 --> 00:26:32,770 I am showing my gratitude. 601 00:26:32,813 --> 00:26:35,294 So the idea that you would hurt 602 00:26:35,337 --> 00:26:39,820 or kill fellow Americans for your own personal gain... 603 00:26:39,864 --> 00:26:41,343 Is absurd. 604 00:26:41,387 --> 00:26:43,345 To do the work that I do, 605 00:26:43,389 --> 00:26:45,652 you have-- you have to become a doctor. 606 00:26:45,696 --> 00:26:48,263 I'm-I'm a doctor. 607 00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:50,309 I took an oath to save lives. 608 00:26:50,352 --> 00:26:53,965 Why would I knowingly set out to hurt anyone? 609 00:26:54,008 --> 00:26:56,750 Kill anyone? 610 00:26:56,794 --> 00:26:58,491 Thank you, Dr. Reznick. 611 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:00,885 No further questions, Your Honor. 612 00:27:00,928 --> 00:27:03,670 [quietly]: They look engaged to me, receptive. 613 00:27:03,714 --> 00:27:05,106 Open body language. 614 00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:07,152 A couple jurors are starting to lean in. 615 00:27:07,195 --> 00:27:09,154 Does that line up with what you're seeing? 616 00:27:09,197 --> 00:27:10,416 Sure does. 617 00:27:10,459 --> 00:27:12,070 They're starting to find Natalie credible, 618 00:27:12,113 --> 00:27:15,160 and a few of them are now firmly on her side. 619 00:27:15,203 --> 00:27:17,031 REYNOLDS: So, 620 00:27:17,075 --> 00:27:18,859 Dr. Reznick, 621 00:27:18,903 --> 00:27:20,687 the pleasure you take from your work 622 00:27:20,731 --> 00:27:24,430 is fundamentally altruistic, right? 623 00:27:24,473 --> 00:27:27,563 I mean, you want to pull your own weight. 624 00:27:27,607 --> 00:27:30,392 You want to do your share. 625 00:27:30,436 --> 00:27:34,135 And, most of all, you want to helppeople, huh? 626 00:27:34,179 --> 00:27:35,659 Protect people. 627 00:27:35,702 --> 00:27:38,270 This is what you just testified to, correct? 628 00:27:38,313 --> 00:27:40,272 Yes. 629 00:27:40,315 --> 00:27:41,708 And you would never want to hurt anyone. 630 00:27:41,752 --> 00:27:43,884 You certainly wouldn't want to see anyone die. 631 00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:44,972 I mean, the work 632 00:27:45,016 --> 00:27:45,973 you do, 633 00:27:46,017 --> 00:27:48,193 your very reason for being, 634 00:27:48,236 --> 00:27:51,457 is all about saving lives. 635 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:52,850 Is that correct? 636 00:27:52,893 --> 00:27:55,026 That is what I said, yes. 637 00:27:55,069 --> 00:27:56,288 Interesting. 638 00:27:56,331 --> 00:27:58,290 Because I have a video 639 00:27:58,333 --> 00:28:00,379 of an academic conference you participated in, 640 00:28:00,422 --> 00:28:02,294 which would seem 641 00:28:02,337 --> 00:28:04,296 to suggest otherwise. 642 00:28:04,339 --> 00:28:05,732 Uh... [clears throat] Objection. 643 00:28:05,776 --> 00:28:07,778 Your Honor, this is the first 644 00:28:07,821 --> 00:28:09,780 the defense has heard of any video. 645 00:28:09,823 --> 00:28:11,956 The AUSA knows...Your Honor, a concerned citizen 646 00:28:11,999 --> 00:28:13,914 sent this video to our office... ...he has a duty to disclose 647 00:28:13,958 --> 00:28:15,350 any and all......only just yesterday. 648 00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:17,352 Enough! Both of you. 649 00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:18,789 Mr. Reynolds, 650 00:28:18,832 --> 00:28:22,706 I'm gonna take you at your word and allow this. 651 00:28:22,749 --> 00:28:25,447 Mr. Colón, I will give you ample time to prepare 652 00:28:25,491 --> 00:28:27,275 should you choose to redirect. 653 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:28,929 Let's proceed. 654 00:28:30,191 --> 00:28:32,106 REYNOLDS: Is that you up there, Dr. Reznick, 655 00:28:32,150 --> 00:28:33,847 on the stage, in the video? 656 00:28:33,891 --> 00:28:35,675 It is. Yes. 657 00:28:35,719 --> 00:28:38,286 REYNOLDS: Do you recall when this video was taken? 658 00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:40,462 Um, I-I believe 659 00:28:40,506 --> 00:28:44,466 it was an ethics panel at a microbiology conference 660 00:28:44,510 --> 00:28:47,469 about... ten years ago. 661 00:28:47,513 --> 00:28:48,993 I was still a postgrad. 662 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:55,086 I have a hypothetical question for you, Dr. Reznick. 663 00:28:55,129 --> 00:28:56,348 Okay. 664 00:28:56,391 --> 00:28:59,438 If an unknown deadly virus or bacteria 665 00:28:59,481 --> 00:29:01,919 were to infect an isolated group of people, 666 00:29:01,962 --> 00:29:03,398 what, in your opinion, 667 00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:06,227 is the best course of action? 668 00:29:06,271 --> 00:29:08,316 Um, well, uh, 669 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,060 if there was a chance to contain the outbreak within that group, 670 00:29:13,104 --> 00:29:14,670 I'd say that the only choice 671 00:29:14,714 --> 00:29:17,848 is to quarantine the infected-- 672 00:29:17,891 --> 00:29:19,458 nobody in, nobody out-- 673 00:29:19,501 --> 00:29:23,114 and then watch the, uh, progression of the disease. 674 00:29:23,157 --> 00:29:24,942 MODERATOR: Even if the disease were deadly? 675 00:29:24,985 --> 00:29:26,378 NATALIE: Well, if you don't know 676 00:29:26,421 --> 00:29:27,422 what the pathogen is, 677 00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:29,729 treating the symptoms may be futile. 678 00:29:29,773 --> 00:29:33,037 You're going to have to let in medical workers, 679 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,299 and then, at some point, you're going 680 00:29:34,342 --> 00:29:35,909 to have to let them back out, 681 00:29:35,953 --> 00:29:37,432 and they very well may carry 682 00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:39,434 whatever it is to the general population. 683 00:29:39,478 --> 00:29:41,523 So, yeah, 684 00:29:41,567 --> 00:29:43,047 harsh as it sounds, 685 00:29:43,090 --> 00:29:45,789 quarantine. 686 00:29:45,832 --> 00:29:47,181 Because, unfortunately, 687 00:29:47,225 --> 00:29:51,272 sometimes five have to die to save 5,000. 688 00:29:51,316 --> 00:29:53,666 [courtroom murmuring] 689 00:29:58,889 --> 00:30:03,502 "Sometimes five have to die to save 5,000." 690 00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:10,770 Is that why you sent the anthrax through the mail, Dr. Reznick? 691 00:30:10,814 --> 00:30:14,339 Because you thought it would be okay to kill two 692 00:30:14,382 --> 00:30:16,950 if it meant recovering the funds 693 00:30:16,994 --> 00:30:19,387 that you needed in order to find a cure? 694 00:30:19,431 --> 00:30:21,215 BENNY: Objection. 695 00:30:21,259 --> 00:30:22,390 Facts not in evidence. 696 00:30:22,434 --> 00:30:23,870 Speculation. 697 00:30:23,914 --> 00:30:25,089 Badgering. 698 00:30:25,132 --> 00:30:26,351 Should I go on? 699 00:30:26,394 --> 00:30:28,048 Of course not. 700 00:30:28,092 --> 00:30:30,398 That is part of a larger conversation. 701 00:30:30,442 --> 00:30:32,313 You lifted that out of context.[gavel banging] 702 00:30:32,357 --> 00:30:34,141 AIMES: Dr. Reznick.And organically contracting 703 00:30:34,185 --> 00:30:35,969 a disease is fundamentally different 704 00:30:36,013 --> 00:30:38,232 than intentionally infecting someone.Dr. Reznick. 705 00:30:38,276 --> 00:30:39,886 Dr. Reznick. 706 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:43,150 Your attorney was making an objection on your behalf. 707 00:30:43,194 --> 00:30:45,109 In the future, when an attorney 708 00:30:45,152 --> 00:30:46,762 makes an objection, 709 00:30:46,806 --> 00:30:49,330 please refrain from answering until I've rendered my decision 710 00:30:49,374 --> 00:30:51,071 on the objection. 711 00:30:51,115 --> 00:30:53,073 I will let the witness's statement 712 00:30:53,117 --> 00:30:54,901 remain in the record. 713 00:30:54,945 --> 00:30:57,338 Let's take a ten-minute break and allow everyone 714 00:30:57,382 --> 00:30:59,514 to cool down. The witness will remain... How's this playing where you are? 715 00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:00,733 Not terribly well. 716 00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:02,561 I'm afraid we lost all our greens, Bull. 717 00:31:02,604 --> 00:31:04,868 We will continue her testimony at that time.[gavel bangs] 718 00:31:09,655 --> 00:31:12,005 MARISSA: So, how was dinner?Not great. 719 00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:13,964 I wasn't hungry. I'd been eating 720 00:31:14,007 --> 00:31:15,313 my small intestine all afternoon. 721 00:31:15,356 --> 00:31:16,749 I promise you, 722 00:31:16,792 --> 00:31:19,143 it was as difficult to listen to over here 723 00:31:19,186 --> 00:31:23,843 as I'm sure it was for you to witness in person. 724 00:31:23,887 --> 00:31:25,671 The problem is, was, 725 00:31:25,714 --> 00:31:27,847 and continues to be we've presented the jury 726 00:31:27,891 --> 00:31:29,762 with no real alternatives to our client. 727 00:31:29,805 --> 00:31:31,851 We keep insisting it must be someone else, but... 728 00:31:31,895 --> 00:31:34,071 we never say who.BENNY: Yeah. 729 00:31:34,114 --> 00:31:36,682 Bull's hitting the nail on the head, Marissa. 730 00:31:36,725 --> 00:31:38,989 Every time I feel like we're making progress, 731 00:31:39,032 --> 00:31:41,948 every time I feel a hint of traction with this jury, 732 00:31:41,992 --> 00:31:43,645 it all slips away. 733 00:31:43,689 --> 00:31:46,735 That's because they have no one else to consider but Natalie. 734 00:31:46,779 --> 00:31:48,912 I hear you. And all I can tell you is that... 735 00:31:48,955 --> 00:31:50,957 [stammers] Danny, Chunk, and Taylor-- 736 00:31:51,001 --> 00:31:53,090 who is standing right next to me-- 737 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:55,701 they're all beating the bushes, 738 00:31:55,744 --> 00:31:58,530 trying to find someone who could have plausibly pulled this off. 739 00:31:58,573 --> 00:32:00,097 Dr. Bull, did you get a chance 740 00:32:00,140 --> 00:32:01,968 to go through those dossiers I prepared for you? 741 00:32:02,012 --> 00:32:05,015 There's material there on almost 50 lab employees, 742 00:32:05,058 --> 00:32:06,973 all of whom have access to anthrax. 743 00:32:07,017 --> 00:32:09,845 I'm getting through them as fast as I can, Taylor. 744 00:32:09,889 --> 00:32:12,022 But it's not as if anyone flagged one of the employees 745 00:32:12,065 --> 00:32:15,677 and said, "Here's a plausible suspect." 746 00:32:15,721 --> 00:32:16,940 Come on, Bull. We are all pulling 747 00:32:16,983 --> 00:32:18,506 on the same end of the rope here. 748 00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:20,944 [screams][screams] What? 749 00:32:20,987 --> 00:32:22,075 The hell was that? 750 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,990 What's going on over there? 751 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,169 [elevator bell chimes] 752 00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:31,998 [indistinct chatter] 753 00:32:32,042 --> 00:32:34,087 Uh... 754 00:32:34,131 --> 00:32:36,176 is it... safe out here? 755 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,873 Absolutely. 756 00:32:37,917 --> 00:32:40,006 My name is, uh, Jason Bull. 757 00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:41,965 This is my place of business. 758 00:32:42,008 --> 00:32:43,879 I have two employees inside. 759 00:32:43,923 --> 00:32:47,057 Do you have any sense of when they'll be able to come out? 760 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,842 They will be able to come out at some point, right? 761 00:32:49,885 --> 00:32:51,670 It's gonna be quite a while. 762 00:32:51,713 --> 00:32:53,585 You might want to give them a call. 763 00:32:53,628 --> 00:32:56,066 [exhales] 764 00:32:56,109 --> 00:32:57,589 BULL: How you guys feeling? 765 00:32:57,632 --> 00:32:59,983 At the moment? Absolutely fine. 766 00:33:00,026 --> 00:33:01,985 A little hungry. 767 00:33:02,028 --> 00:33:03,203 He asked. 768 00:33:03,247 --> 00:33:04,900 We can't eat anything from the kitchen. 769 00:33:04,944 --> 00:33:07,033 Can't eat anything until they give us the all clear 770 00:33:07,077 --> 00:33:08,687 and we can get out of here. 771 00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:10,341 We are gonna be fine. They've loaded us up with antibiotics. 772 00:33:10,384 --> 00:33:11,646 I think it's primarily 773 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:13,866 about waiting for lab results at this point. 774 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:16,303 Marissa, Taylor, I'm so sorry you're going through this. 775 00:33:16,347 --> 00:33:17,565 They give you 776 00:33:17,609 --> 00:33:19,132 any ETA on these tests? 777 00:33:19,176 --> 00:33:22,005 Uh, they've estimated another three hours or so. 778 00:33:22,048 --> 00:33:24,833 Taylor, do you need us to swing by your place 779 00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:25,921 and pick up your son? 780 00:33:25,965 --> 00:33:27,706 Nope. He's at his dad's. 781 00:33:27,749 --> 00:33:29,142 Thank goodness. 782 00:33:29,186 --> 00:33:31,753 Hey, uh, guys, there's nothing for you to do here. 783 00:33:31,797 --> 00:33:33,407 Why don't you just head home? 784 00:33:33,451 --> 00:33:36,323 Bull, I will text you as soon as they tell us anything. 785 00:33:36,367 --> 00:33:38,282 As soon as they let us out of here. 786 00:33:38,325 --> 00:33:40,066 Are you sure? I mean, 787 00:33:40,110 --> 00:33:42,068 I'm happy to stick around. 788 00:33:42,112 --> 00:33:43,896 We're good. 789 00:33:43,939 --> 00:33:46,072 We've got each other.Okay. 790 00:33:46,116 --> 00:33:48,074 Then I am going to go home, 791 00:33:48,118 --> 00:33:51,077 kiss my baby, 792 00:33:51,121 --> 00:33:53,297 and read some dossiers. 793 00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:58,041 Would you think I was a terrible person 794 00:33:58,084 --> 00:33:59,520 if I told you that, 795 00:33:59,564 --> 00:34:01,914 as horrible as this must be for Marissa and Taylor, 796 00:34:01,957 --> 00:34:04,438 there's potentially a big upside to it? 797 00:34:05,483 --> 00:34:07,006 Oh, thank God. 798 00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:10,009 I thought I was the only one whose mind worked that way. 799 00:34:10,053 --> 00:34:12,011 Natalie's in jail. 800 00:34:12,055 --> 00:34:14,144 So she couldn't have done it. 801 00:34:14,187 --> 00:34:15,928 If the FBI and the CDC confirm 802 00:34:15,971 --> 00:34:19,105 that the handwriting is the same on the letter we got at TAC 803 00:34:19,149 --> 00:34:20,846 as on the envelopes that went out 804 00:34:20,889 --> 00:34:22,587 to the congressman and the newscaster... 805 00:34:22,630 --> 00:34:24,589 And that the construction of the gizmo 806 00:34:24,632 --> 00:34:28,027 that makes sure the anthrax makes contact with the person 807 00:34:28,071 --> 00:34:29,072 is similar... 808 00:34:30,551 --> 00:34:33,511 I think our client is free and clear. 809 00:34:33,554 --> 00:34:37,341 I'll make sure to keep all my digits crossed. 810 00:34:37,384 --> 00:34:38,951 [snoring] 811 00:34:38,994 --> 00:34:40,300 [phone vibrating] 812 00:34:40,344 --> 00:34:42,346 [snorts] 813 00:34:45,262 --> 00:34:47,394 [whispering]: Hello? 814 00:34:47,438 --> 00:34:49,004 Marissa. 815 00:34:49,048 --> 00:34:51,790 Tell me what's going on. 816 00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:55,837 On your way home? 817 00:34:55,881 --> 00:34:57,752 Uh, that's great. 818 00:34:57,796 --> 00:35:00,015 Great to hear. 819 00:35:02,235 --> 00:35:03,541 Really? 820 00:35:03,584 --> 00:35:05,934 They certain of that? Powdered sugar? 821 00:35:08,328 --> 00:35:11,070 Yeah, that is funny. 822 00:35:11,114 --> 00:35:13,203 If Taylor had only licked her fingers, 823 00:35:13,246 --> 00:35:16,206 she wouldn't have been hungry anymore. 824 00:35:16,249 --> 00:35:19,078 Well, the two of you get something to eat, 825 00:35:19,122 --> 00:35:22,037 get some sleep, and I'll see you in the morning. 826 00:35:22,081 --> 00:35:23,865 Night. 827 00:35:23,909 --> 00:35:26,129 ♪ 828 00:35:26,172 --> 00:35:28,174 [exhales] 829 00:35:28,218 --> 00:35:30,829 You have no idea how happy I am 830 00:35:30,872 --> 00:35:33,962 to be standing here, talking to you. 831 00:35:34,006 --> 00:35:37,966 You have no idea how happy I am to be talked to. 832 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:39,011 Mm. 833 00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:40,578 Just a copycat. 834 00:35:40,621 --> 00:35:43,929 Copycat with powdered sugar trying to intimidate us. 835 00:35:43,972 --> 00:35:46,236 Somebody who'd watched the news and convinced themselves 836 00:35:46,279 --> 00:35:48,107 that Natalie is a murderer 837 00:35:48,151 --> 00:35:50,283 and that we're the bad guys just doing whatever we can 838 00:35:50,327 --> 00:35:52,329 to help her evade the law.Well, 839 00:35:52,372 --> 00:35:55,158 I went through the rest of the dossiers early this morning, 840 00:35:55,201 --> 00:35:58,117 and I found one that ticked a lot of boxes for me. 841 00:35:58,161 --> 00:35:59,640 Really? 842 00:35:59,684 --> 00:36:02,295 What if I told you that one of the employees at Hudson 843 00:36:02,339 --> 00:36:05,124 served as a medic during the first Gulf War? 844 00:36:05,168 --> 00:36:09,259 Okay. And that's meaningful because...? 845 00:36:09,302 --> 00:36:11,609 Because it means they have firsthand knowledge 846 00:36:11,652 --> 00:36:15,439 of the devastation biological and chemical weapons cause. 847 00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:18,529 No offense, but that hardly seems like enough 848 00:36:18,572 --> 00:36:20,618 to get a jury to change its mind. 849 00:36:20,661 --> 00:36:23,447 What if I told you this person was stationed in territory 850 00:36:23,490 --> 00:36:27,233 where Saddam Hussein was waging chemical and biological warfare 851 00:36:27,277 --> 00:36:30,367 against a large swath of civilians? 852 00:36:30,410 --> 00:36:33,370 Still kind of feels like we're making some big leaps here, 853 00:36:33,413 --> 00:36:34,545 don't you think? 854 00:36:34,588 --> 00:36:36,982 I don't know. 855 00:36:37,025 --> 00:36:40,377 Why does someone dedicate their life to finding an antidote 856 00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:42,248 to something like anthrax? 857 00:36:42,292 --> 00:36:44,555 We know why Natalie did it. 858 00:36:44,598 --> 00:36:48,515 She felt... a sense of obligation to her country. 859 00:36:50,343 --> 00:36:52,650 So, what if this person did it 860 00:36:52,693 --> 00:36:54,478 because they keenly understood 861 00:36:54,521 --> 00:36:58,090 that biological weapons were an imminent threat to the homeland? 862 00:36:58,133 --> 00:37:01,659 So, when Congress cut their funding for the research, 863 00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,357 they took matters into their own hands 864 00:37:04,401 --> 00:37:06,316 and decided the one 865 00:37:06,359 --> 00:37:09,101 or two deaths necessary to seize the public's imagination 866 00:37:09,144 --> 00:37:13,105 were a fair trade if it helped prevent a greater harm. 867 00:37:13,148 --> 00:37:16,500 So, you're saying the FBI had the right motive-- 868 00:37:16,543 --> 00:37:19,372 just pegged the wrong person. 869 00:37:20,852 --> 00:37:23,376 Who is this person? 870 00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:25,248 Roger Simpkins? 871 00:37:25,291 --> 00:37:27,162 Uh, Natalie's boss? 872 00:37:27,206 --> 00:37:29,861 The man who oversees the entire program? 873 00:37:29,904 --> 00:37:33,343 His position means he can come and go between labs by himself 874 00:37:33,386 --> 00:37:34,953 without raising suspicion, 875 00:37:34,996 --> 00:37:37,085 which means he has access 876 00:37:37,129 --> 00:37:38,391 to anthrax. 877 00:37:38,435 --> 00:37:39,740 Not to mention the know-how 878 00:37:39,784 --> 00:37:42,395 and the equipment to dry the spores with. 879 00:37:42,439 --> 00:37:44,354 DANNY: Not only did Dr. Simpkins have the motive, 880 00:37:44,397 --> 00:37:46,704 the means, and the opportunity to commit this crime-- 881 00:37:46,747 --> 00:37:48,445 he was also in the perfect position 882 00:37:48,488 --> 00:37:49,750 to frame Natalie Reznick. 883 00:37:49,794 --> 00:37:51,839 BULL: Natalie had to get her boss's okay 884 00:37:51,883 --> 00:37:53,493 before she wrote to that list 885 00:37:53,537 --> 00:37:55,887 of legislators and journalists in the wake of the budget cuts. 886 00:37:55,930 --> 00:37:57,584 Dr. Simpkins 887 00:37:57,628 --> 00:38:00,021 could easily have pulled Congressman Connors' 888 00:38:00,065 --> 00:38:03,808 and Allison Rojas' names from that list in an effort 889 00:38:03,851 --> 00:38:05,549 to make Natalie look guilty. 890 00:38:05,592 --> 00:38:07,551 [scoffs] 891 00:38:07,594 --> 00:38:08,813 I'm sorry, 892 00:38:08,856 --> 00:38:13,339 but none of this sounds terribly convincing. 893 00:38:13,383 --> 00:38:15,863 In fact, it sounds desperate, 894 00:38:15,907 --> 00:38:17,430 like you know you're about to lose 895 00:38:17,474 --> 00:38:19,519 and you're throwing spaghetti on the wall, 896 00:38:19,563 --> 00:38:20,868 hoping something will stick. 897 00:38:20,912 --> 00:38:23,175 Look, I came to this meeting 898 00:38:23,218 --> 00:38:24,481 in good faith. 899 00:38:24,524 --> 00:38:26,265 But I got to tell you, 900 00:38:26,309 --> 00:38:29,094 I believe Natalie Reznick is guilty, 901 00:38:29,137 --> 00:38:31,009 and nothing I've heard here today 902 00:38:31,052 --> 00:38:34,142 even remotely begins to change my mind. 903 00:38:34,186 --> 00:38:36,362 Well, perhaps we should have skipped the warm-up then. 904 00:38:36,406 --> 00:38:39,626 Danny, the pièce de résistance, if you will. 905 00:38:44,457 --> 00:38:47,504 You recognize these images, Mr. Reynolds? 906 00:38:47,547 --> 00:38:48,635 Of course. 907 00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,202 Those are from the security footage 908 00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:54,075 the FBI lifted near the mailbox where the letters were sent. 909 00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:55,381 You were never able to identify Natalie 910 00:38:55,425 --> 00:38:57,165 in any of these photos, were you? 911 00:38:57,209 --> 00:38:58,732 [scoffs] Come on. Look at the time of year. 912 00:38:58,776 --> 00:39:00,473 Look how everyone is dressed. 913 00:39:00,517 --> 00:39:03,911 Nevertheless, we do believe one of them is Natalie. 914 00:39:03,955 --> 00:39:05,522 Well, in the same way you set out to prove 915 00:39:05,565 --> 00:39:06,914 one of them is Natalie, 916 00:39:06,958 --> 00:39:10,265 we set out to prove one of them is Dr. Simpkins. 917 00:39:11,832 --> 00:39:13,617 We widened the surveillance area 918 00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:15,532 and accessed all of the security cameras 919 00:39:15,575 --> 00:39:17,360 within a half-mile radius of the mailbox. 920 00:39:17,403 --> 00:39:19,187 BENNY: Now, the FBI determined that there was 921 00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:22,365 an eight-hour window during which the letters were mailed. 922 00:39:22,408 --> 00:39:25,846 So, using a photograph of Dr. Simpkins' face, 923 00:39:25,890 --> 00:39:28,109 our office created an algorithm 924 00:39:28,153 --> 00:39:31,112 to scan all eight hours of the footage 925 00:39:31,156 --> 00:39:32,723 from every single camera. 926 00:39:33,724 --> 00:39:35,943 DANNY: This is what we found. 927 00:39:35,987 --> 00:39:38,206 Recorded by an ATM about four blocks away 928 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:40,426 from the mailbox. 929 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:43,690 BULL: As you can see, that's Roger Simpkins. 930 00:39:43,734 --> 00:39:45,779 And you'll notice his hat 931 00:39:45,823 --> 00:39:48,391 perfectly matches this hat. 932 00:39:48,434 --> 00:39:50,523 In this photo. 933 00:39:50,567 --> 00:39:53,831 Where a person is clearly mailing letters. 934 00:39:53,874 --> 00:39:56,181 Letters which I would bet contain anthrax. 935 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,404 Nice work. 936 00:40:05,059 --> 00:40:07,453 Well, I suppose the four of us 937 00:40:07,497 --> 00:40:09,455 should take a walk down to the judge's chambers, 938 00:40:09,499 --> 00:40:10,413 see if we can get an audience. 939 00:40:12,806 --> 00:40:15,200 If this isn't probable cause for a search warrant, 940 00:40:15,243 --> 00:40:17,158 I don't know what is. 941 00:40:22,468 --> 00:40:23,730 Look out there. 942 00:40:23,774 --> 00:40:25,428 You see a single face mask? 943 00:40:25,471 --> 00:40:26,820 Nope. 944 00:40:26,864 --> 00:40:28,343 Just people walking their dogs, 945 00:40:28,387 --> 00:40:30,345 strolling their kids. 946 00:40:30,389 --> 00:40:32,739 Well, it's like we told the judge-- 947 00:40:32,783 --> 00:40:34,915 the FBI searched Dr. Simpkins' apartment, 948 00:40:34,959 --> 00:40:37,178 only to discover it, too, had been bleached. 949 00:40:37,222 --> 00:40:39,746 Luckily, when they opened up the HVAC ducts, 950 00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:43,750 they found anthrax spores behind a vent in the kitchen. 951 00:40:43,794 --> 00:40:46,492 I still have a hard time believing it. 952 00:40:46,536 --> 00:40:48,276 We talked about it all the time. 953 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,279 He kept saying how he wanted to help people, 954 00:40:51,323 --> 00:40:52,672 protect people. 955 00:40:52,716 --> 00:40:54,457 Oh, I'm sure he thought he was doing just that. 956 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,937 Doing it for the greater good. 957 00:40:56,981 --> 00:41:00,419 You know, I guess that's why I like my work so much. 958 00:41:00,463 --> 00:41:03,248 Bacteria may be challenging, 959 00:41:03,291 --> 00:41:06,425 but they're a whole hell of a lot easier to understand 960 00:41:06,469 --> 00:41:08,427 than people. 961 00:41:12,562 --> 00:41:18,481 Captioning sponsored by CBS 962 00:41:18,524 --> 00:41:20,483 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 72958

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