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$600 for a freaking T-shirt?
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Did you say $600?
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Wow.
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This is SoHo, Chloe.
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Still.
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[clerk clears throat]
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Ladies, let me know if there's
anything I can help you with.
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Thank you.
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We should probably head back
to Brooklyn soon.
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Oh, my God, a scarf is $400?
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Should I get it?
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What? No.
Your mom will kill you.
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NINA:
Hey.
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I didn't say anything
about buying it.
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Oh, come on.
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Warmth is a fundamental
human right.
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And I need a scarf.
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Relax. You're gonna
attract attention.
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NINA:
Hey.
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You should get those earrings.
They're your favorite color.
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I don't think so.
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Do you know how cute
you'd look with them?
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Sorry, ladies.
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I'm gonna need to see
inside those purses.
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Good afternoon.
My name is Elena Smith.
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I got a phone call
that my 15-year-old daughter
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was arrested for shoplifting?
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Wait, there must be
some mistake.
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I'm supposed to meet
my daughter in here.
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There's been no
mistake, Ms. Smith.
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It's you we want to talk to.
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I'm Agent Franks with the
Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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This is Agent Arnold.
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Would you please
take a seat?
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Shoplifting?
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Is that something the FBI
gets involved with these days?
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Uh, just for the record,
you're Chloe Smith's mom?Yes.
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Is she okay? W-What did she do?
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Chloe's real name
isn't Chloe at all, is it?
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And her last name isn't Smith.
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For that matter,
I'm guessing neither is yours.
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Your daughter, who
isn't your daughter,
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her real name is Sarah Cooper,
isn't it?
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FRANKS:
We ran her prints.
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She's originally from
Clearwater, Florida,
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and we suspect
maybe you are, too.
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Your real name's
Angela Brown, isn't it?
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ARNOLD:
Ms. Brown,
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we've been looking for you
and that little girl
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for an awfully long time.
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[knocking on glass]
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Go away.BENNY:
No.
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Nope. I need to speak with you.
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Have some mercy.
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You know I have
a two-week-old at home.
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I know that.[knocking on glass]
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She's adorable, but confused.
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Doesn't know night from day.[knocking continues]
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Ugh, come on.
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I'm working
on 22 minutes' sleep here.
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I beg you.
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Sorry, Bull.
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You know, I just, uh,
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got off the phone
with my financial guy,
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trying to start
a college fund
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for baby Bull,
but I got to have her full name.
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They won't let me
open up an account
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without a last name
and a first name.
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So what's it gonna be?
Asa or Ingrid?
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Remember?
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You told me you wanted
to name her Ingrid,
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and Izzy wanted to name her Asa.
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So where'd you
guys end up?
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We met in the middle.
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What? Inga?
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Astrid.
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Ah.
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Astrid.
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I like it.
Never heard it before,
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but I like it.
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Same here.
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[knocking on glass]
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[sighs]
See what you started?
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You two boys interested
in running up
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to the Metropolitan Correctional
Center late this afternoon,
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and talking to a woman accused
of kidnapping her niece
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12 years ago and bringing
her up as her daughter?
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[cell door closes]
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12 years ago, my younger sister
Marie died in a car accident.
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She had just dropped her
three-year-old daughter
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off at day care.
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Sarah. Sarah Cooper.
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Yes.
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That was the name
she was born with.
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Sarah Cooper.
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And what about her father?
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What was going on with Sarah's
father after your sister died?
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My brother-in-law had issues
with impulse control.
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Struggled with his drinking,
with drugs.
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He used to beat
my sister.
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He used to hurt Chloe.
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Sarah.
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And you witnessed this?
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I saw the bruises.
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But your sister confided in you?
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She didn't have
to confide in me.
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S-She didn't have to say it.
She was my sister.
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Uh, these bruises,
did you ask her about them?
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I tried.
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She'd tell me
she walked into a door.
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Or when her hand had what looked
to me like cigarette burns,
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she'd tell me she did it
to herself on the stove.
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Tell me about Sarah.
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After Marie died,
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I noticed she started
having bruises.
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And did you ask
your brother-in-law?
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The girl's father?
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He'd tell me Sarah fell down.
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"Sarah fell off her big wheel."
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There was
always a story.
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So, I contacted
Florida's Department
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of Children and Families.
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But by the time
they came out to investigate,
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the bruises were almost gone.
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I think I reported him
five, six times.
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And then, one day,
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I went over there
to visit my niece,
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and they told me she was in
the hospital with a broken arm.
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Jim said she fell down
the stairs.
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But when I went to the hospital
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and asked Sarah what had
happened, she wouldn't tell me.
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She just looked sad.
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She wouldn't say anything.
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So, the next morning,
I went back to the hospital.
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And I told her
we were going on a trip.
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That was 12 years ago.
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Let's talk about the trial.
It's not gonna be easy.
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There's no denying what you did.
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You took a child
who wasn't yours.
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A child who still had a parent.
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And there's no jury
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that's gonna have an easy time
looking past that,
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which is why Sarah-- Chloe--
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is the key to your defense.
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The key?
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How? She was only three
when all this happened.
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She doesn't remember anything.
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Of course.
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But surely she has an opinion
on you as a mother.
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How did she react when you
told her you'd been arrested?
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I told her I'd been called away
on a business trip.
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I called her friend's parents
and asked if she could stay
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with them for a day or two.
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Ms. Smith, Ms. Brown,
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you need to explain
to your niece
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what's really going on here.
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That is a conversation
that has to be had.
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BENNY:
Dr. Bull is right.
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She is the most important
witness we have.
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Now, we're happy
to bring Chloe here, tomorrow.
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Give you two a chance to talk.
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Here?
[exhales]
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So I can tell her
her whole life's been a fiction?
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She thinks
her father is dead,
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that he's a war hero,
he lost his life in Afghanistan.
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Be that as it may,
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if that girl doesn't tell
the jury what a wonderful mother
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you've been,
you will be found guilty.
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And the authorities
will almost certainly return her
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to the man
you're convinced hurt her.
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[crying]
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Tell me you'll call her tonight.
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Tell me you'll explain
you need to see her.
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Okay.
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I'll call her.
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I'll tell her
about the two of you.
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That you'll be
bringing her to me.
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[sniffles]
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But I won't tell her where.
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And I won't tell her why.
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I-I just can't.
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♪
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BENNY:
Here she comes.
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[car door opens]
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♪
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[sniffling]
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[engine starts]
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You all right?
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[whispers]:
It's a lot.
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It is.
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[sighs]
I hate to be the naysayer...
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No, you don't.I-I don't know
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how we're supposed
to prove abuse
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that supposedly happened
over 12 years ago
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in a place that's over
a thousand miles away.
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CHUNK: I don't know.
I mean, the kid did
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break her arm.
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Yeah, but it was
a spiral fracture,
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which is actually
pretty common.
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It can happen when you yank
a toddler's arm
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or when you're just
horsing around,
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which is what the dad
told the doctors.
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Speaking of the father...
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Tell us what you know.
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His name is Jim Cooper.
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Went through kind of a dark
period after his wife passed
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and his daughter disappeared.
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Couldn't hold down a job,
got himself into a lot of debt.
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Lost his house. Some minor
arrests for drunkenness.
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Then about eight
years ago,
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he started to pull
his life back together.
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Bought a water-softening
franchise,
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remarried four years ago, has
a two-and-a-half-year-old son,
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has six employees.
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I've dated guys whose bios
read worse than this.
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Here's the thing. Bull keeps
saying the literature
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is pretty clear about the fact
that abuse tends to be cyclical.
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I mean, even though
this Jim Cooper remarried...
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You think he's abusing
his new wife and kid?
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Well, I certainly hope not,
but he probably had
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other relationships
before he met his current wife.
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And if we can establish
a pattern of abuse,
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it would certainly bolster
Elena's credibility.
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Looks like I'm on a plane
to sunny Florida.
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BENNY: Do you know what
the problem with this case is?
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Our client did exactly what
she's being charged with.
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I'm starting to think our only
choice might be to embrace that.
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[scoffs]
Why would we do that?
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To gain credibility
with the judge and the jury.
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Make a play
for a lenient sentence.
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Our play is
to get her acquitted.
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If we have to ask
for a lenient sentence,
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it means we've lost, and our
client didn't hire us to lose.
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Yeah, but, Bull, there is
no defense for this crime.
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It's not like we can claim
that it was an accident
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or self-defense
or even insanity.
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I mean, she's guilty.
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She did it.
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She kidnapped her niece.
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Well, that's where
jury nullification comes in.
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We've got to convince this jury
that the kidnapping law
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shouldn't apply
to Elena's situation.
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She wasn't kidnapping her niece;
she was rescuing her.
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Let the prosecution
call it a kidnapping.
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We're gonna call it a rescue.
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BULL: I need to warn you--
the first witness
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to take the stand today
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is going to be your
former brother-in-law.
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Whatever you
may think about him,
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we need you to understand
the jury will almost certainly
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empathize with him.
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All they're gonna see
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is a young widower
who lost his only child.
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Wow. The bastard
sobered up long enough
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to fly three hours up the coast
so he could lie under oath?
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According to the prosecutor,
he's been sober for years.
257
00:11:53,108 --> 00:11:55,023
He's also remarried,
owns his own business,
258
00:11:55,067 --> 00:11:56,938
has a two-year-old son,
259
00:11:56,982 --> 00:11:58,940
and very much wants
his daughter back.
260
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Angela,
261
00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,292
the reason
we're telling you this...
262
00:12:03,336 --> 00:12:05,164
[sighs heavily]
263
00:12:05,207 --> 00:12:08,950
We need you to be careful
not to react when he testifies.
264
00:12:08,994 --> 00:12:12,388
The jury is watching you,
they're studying you.
265
00:12:12,432 --> 00:12:15,435
If they see anger,
if they see contempt,
266
00:12:15,478 --> 00:12:18,743
they're gonna presume
that you took this man's child
267
00:12:18,786 --> 00:12:20,745
out of spite.
268
00:12:20,788 --> 00:12:22,572
KNIGHT:
So...
269
00:12:22,616 --> 00:12:24,966
you got to
the hospital,
270
00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:26,228
walked into your
daughter's room,
271
00:12:26,272 --> 00:12:28,056
and she just
wasn't there?
272
00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:30,319
Exactly. And no one...
no one knew where she was.
273
00:12:30,363 --> 00:12:32,582
So, of course,
I went to the police.
274
00:12:32,626 --> 00:12:34,584
KNIGHT: And how long
before you figured out
275
00:12:34,628 --> 00:12:36,369
that it was probably
your sister-in-law
276
00:12:36,412 --> 00:12:37,979
who had taken her?
277
00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:41,156
Maybe a day.
There was hospital video.
278
00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,331
Uh...
279
00:12:42,375 --> 00:12:44,899
but the thing is,
no one realized
280
00:12:44,943 --> 00:12:48,076
that she had taken her for good,
281
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,512
that she'd left the state.
282
00:12:49,556 --> 00:12:52,211
I kept thinking that she
had taken her to the movies
283
00:12:52,254 --> 00:12:55,518
or to some theme park to...
284
00:12:55,562 --> 00:12:57,564
take her mind
off of her mother.
285
00:12:57,607 --> 00:12:58,783
Mr. Cooper.
286
00:12:59,827 --> 00:13:02,917
Did you ever hit
your first wife?
287
00:13:02,961 --> 00:13:04,484
Never.
288
00:13:04,527 --> 00:13:06,878
KNIGHT: Did you ever strike
your daughter Sarah?
289
00:13:06,921 --> 00:13:08,357
JIM:
Never.
290
00:13:08,401 --> 00:13:10,011
KNIGHT:
Mr. Cooper,
291
00:13:10,055 --> 00:13:13,014
if the defendant
is found guilty,
292
00:13:13,058 --> 00:13:15,016
are you prepared
293
00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:18,019
to welcome your daughter
back into your home?
294
00:13:18,063 --> 00:13:20,065
JIM:
Prepared? I have been waiting
295
00:13:20,108 --> 00:13:21,588
12 years for this.
296
00:13:21,631 --> 00:13:24,417
I would do anything
to have my child back. Yes.
297
00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:26,027
[gallery murmuring]
298
00:13:26,071 --> 00:13:28,160
KNIGHT:
No further questions,
Your Honor.
299
00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:31,119
Mr. Colón.
300
00:13:31,163 --> 00:13:32,338
Yes, Your Honor.
301
00:13:32,381 --> 00:13:34,209
Thank you, Your Honor.
302
00:13:35,341 --> 00:13:36,908
[exhales quietly]
303
00:13:36,951 --> 00:13:40,128
Mr. Cooper...
304
00:13:40,172 --> 00:13:43,305
we really appreciate
you coming all this way to...
305
00:13:43,349 --> 00:13:45,525
share your recollections.
306
00:13:45,568 --> 00:13:48,049
Recollections?
I-I-I'm talking about...
307
00:13:48,093 --> 00:13:49,442
my family.
308
00:13:49,485 --> 00:13:52,445
I'm talking about my blood,
my-my child.
309
00:13:52,488 --> 00:13:54,751
Yes, yes,
of course, of course, but...
310
00:13:54,795 --> 00:13:57,537
[sighs]
12 years is a long time.
311
00:13:57,580 --> 00:13:59,713
A lot has changed.
312
00:13:59,756 --> 00:14:01,193
Right?
313
00:14:01,236 --> 00:14:04,326
You're remarried, you have
a two-year-old at home...
314
00:14:04,370 --> 00:14:07,852
I never stopped looking.
I... I never gave up.
315
00:14:07,895 --> 00:14:09,070
BENNY:
If you say so, sir.
316
00:14:09,114 --> 00:14:11,290
Now...
317
00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:14,946
you were unemployed at the time
your daughter disappeared,
318
00:14:14,989 --> 00:14:18,471
weren't you?Yes, I-I had a tough time
after my wife died.
319
00:14:18,514 --> 00:14:20,560
Completely understandable.
320
00:14:20,603 --> 00:14:22,910
Although, our records indicate
321
00:14:22,954 --> 00:14:24,912
that you were having
a tough time
322
00:14:24,956 --> 00:14:27,262
even before your wife
passed away,
323
00:14:27,306 --> 00:14:29,221
pretty much beginning
with the birth
324
00:14:29,264 --> 00:14:31,092
of your first child, Sarah.
325
00:14:31,136 --> 00:14:32,441
Objection, Your Honor.
326
00:14:32,485 --> 00:14:35,444
Is counsel asking a question
or testifying?
327
00:14:35,488 --> 00:14:38,273
Ask a question, Mr. Colón.
328
00:14:38,317 --> 00:14:41,320
Absolutely, Your Honor.
My apologies, Your Honor.
329
00:14:41,363 --> 00:14:43,017
[clears throat]:
Uh...
330
00:14:43,061 --> 00:14:47,195
approximately how many jobs
would you say you held
331
00:14:47,239 --> 00:14:49,981
during the three-year period
332
00:14:50,024 --> 00:14:51,983
starting from the birth
of your first child
333
00:14:52,026 --> 00:14:53,985
to the date
that she disappeared?
334
00:14:54,028 --> 00:14:56,509
I don't know,
I was still a young man,
335
00:14:56,552 --> 00:14:58,903
still trying to...
find myself.
336
00:14:58,946 --> 00:14:59,947
Yeah, I get it.
337
00:14:59,991 --> 00:15:01,688
I'm just looking
for a number, sir.
338
00:15:01,731 --> 00:15:03,472
Three, maybe.
339
00:15:03,516 --> 00:15:04,604
Three.
340
00:15:04,647 --> 00:15:06,214
Three jobs in three years.
341
00:15:06,258 --> 00:15:08,042
That's what
you're testifying to?
342
00:15:08,086 --> 00:15:09,261
Could be four.
343
00:15:09,304 --> 00:15:10,436
Objection, Your Honor.
Relevance?
344
00:15:10,479 --> 00:15:12,264
Your Honor,
the defense
345
00:15:12,307 --> 00:15:14,919
is just trying to illustrate
to the jury
346
00:15:14,962 --> 00:15:19,184
that my client has never denied
that she did what she did;
347
00:15:19,227 --> 00:15:21,447
the issue in this trial
is why she did it.
348
00:15:21,490 --> 00:15:23,492
And that's all we are attempting
349
00:15:23,536 --> 00:15:25,625
to illuminate, Your Honor.
350
00:15:25,668 --> 00:15:28,193
Objection overruled.
351
00:15:29,237 --> 00:15:30,369
You may proceed.
352
00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:33,024
Yeah. Now,
I'll ask just one more time.
353
00:15:33,067 --> 00:15:36,375
How many jobs did you hold
during the three-year period
354
00:15:36,418 --> 00:15:39,247
after your daughter's birth?
355
00:15:39,291 --> 00:15:41,119
Five.
356
00:15:41,162 --> 00:15:43,425
Five. Really?
357
00:15:43,469 --> 00:15:45,123
Huh.
358
00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:47,081
Our records show 11, sir.
359
00:15:47,125 --> 00:15:48,213
[gallery murmuring]
360
00:15:50,171 --> 00:15:52,217
Do you care to venture
361
00:15:52,260 --> 00:15:55,307
as to how many alcohol-related
arrests during that period?
362
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:58,745
I imagine
you have that number as well.Oh, I do,
363
00:15:58,788 --> 00:16:02,444
I do, and it's almost as high
as the number of jobs lost.
364
00:16:04,316 --> 00:16:06,448
Again, beginning with the birth
of your first child,
365
00:16:06,492 --> 00:16:08,885
you were also on periods
of federal assistance,
366
00:16:08,929 --> 00:16:10,322
were you not?
367
00:16:10,365 --> 00:16:11,627
Yes.
368
00:16:11,671 --> 00:16:14,021
I was on assistance,
but I'm not any longer.
369
00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:15,414
I haven't been for years.
370
00:16:15,457 --> 00:16:17,372
In fact,
you remained on assistance
371
00:16:17,416 --> 00:16:20,419
for almost 18 months after your
daughter's disappearance, right?
372
00:16:20,462 --> 00:16:21,637
Yeah. So?And isn't it also true
373
00:16:21,681 --> 00:16:23,422
that you never mentioned
374
00:16:23,465 --> 00:16:26,425
to your caseworker that
your daughter was gone,
375
00:16:26,468 --> 00:16:28,296
so that you
can continue to receive
376
00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:30,385
that extra assistance
the government pays
377
00:16:30,429 --> 00:16:32,518
to families with minor children?
378
00:16:32,561 --> 00:16:34,476
[gallery murmuring]
379
00:16:36,304 --> 00:16:37,566
How's the view?
380
00:16:37,610 --> 00:16:39,394
MARISSA:
Nobody is switching sides yet,
381
00:16:39,438 --> 00:16:42,049
but I can see we definitely have
382
00:16:42,093 --> 00:16:44,008
their attention.BENNY:
I'm sorry,
383
00:16:44,051 --> 00:16:45,444
I-I didn't hear what you said.
384
00:16:45,487 --> 00:16:47,054
Like I said,
it was a difficult time.
385
00:16:47,098 --> 00:16:48,316
Ah.
386
00:16:49,665 --> 00:16:51,841
I made some mistakes.
387
00:16:51,885 --> 00:16:55,367
I didn't attend to certain
things that needed attending to.
388
00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:56,585
I won't deny that.
389
00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:58,239
But I was a little busy
390
00:16:58,283 --> 00:17:01,634
putting up posters
on telephone polls...
391
00:17:01,677 --> 00:17:04,245
spending my days
looking for my child.
392
00:17:04,289 --> 00:17:06,465
BENNY:
Be that as it may,
393
00:17:06,508 --> 00:17:09,468
you accepted federal funds
under false pretense,
394
00:17:09,511 --> 00:17:10,904
didn't you?Objection.
395
00:17:10,947 --> 00:17:13,080
Asked and answered.
396
00:17:13,124 --> 00:17:14,125
Objection sustained.
397
00:17:14,168 --> 00:17:16,388
Ask another question.
398
00:17:16,431 --> 00:17:19,173
Actually, I have no further
questions, Your Honor.
399
00:17:19,217 --> 00:17:20,827
[gallery murmuring]
400
00:17:36,625 --> 00:17:40,499
I'm worried. I haven't heard
from Chloe since yesterday.
401
00:17:40,542 --> 00:17:42,501
That's funny, she
missed her appointment
402
00:17:42,544 --> 00:17:45,373
with Chunk this morning
to go over her testimony.
403
00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:47,680
BAILIFF: All rise
for the Honorable Judge Hopkins.
404
00:17:52,206 --> 00:17:53,990
KNIGHT:
Ms. Lawson,
405
00:17:54,034 --> 00:17:57,037
thank you for making the
trip up from Florida.
406
00:17:57,081 --> 00:17:59,300
Now, in 2008,
407
00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:01,389
you were the Florida
Child Services investigator
408
00:18:01,433 --> 00:18:03,652
assigned to Sarah Cooper's case.
409
00:18:03,696 --> 00:18:05,393
Isn't that correct?Yes.
410
00:18:05,437 --> 00:18:08,309
And apparently, you
were called to the home
411
00:18:08,353 --> 00:18:10,137
a number of times.
412
00:18:10,181 --> 00:18:11,660
I was.
413
00:18:11,704 --> 00:18:13,009
Her aunt...
414
00:18:13,053 --> 00:18:14,576
[sighs]
the defendant...
415
00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:16,883
seemed convinced that there was
416
00:18:16,926 --> 00:18:18,798
some sort of abuse
going on in the household.
417
00:18:18,841 --> 00:18:20,800
So you investigated?
418
00:18:20,843 --> 00:18:21,844
I did.
419
00:18:21,888 --> 00:18:23,498
And what did
you discover?
420
00:18:23,542 --> 00:18:27,198
I found some minor issues
with hygiene.
421
00:18:27,241 --> 00:18:28,938
How do you mean?The kitchen sink
422
00:18:28,982 --> 00:18:30,505
had dirty dishes in it.
423
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:33,117
Sarah's clothes
hadn't been washed in a while.
424
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,901
Pretty standard stuff.
425
00:18:34,944 --> 00:18:37,164
And frankly,
to be expected
in a household
426
00:18:37,208 --> 00:18:39,949
where the mother
had just passed.And wasn't there also
427
00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:43,953
some concern about a bruise
or bruises on her arms and legs?
428
00:18:43,997 --> 00:18:47,174
Again,
concerns from the defendant.
429
00:18:47,218 --> 00:18:48,654
But when I saw the child,
430
00:18:48,697 --> 00:18:51,744
it was hard to determine
exactly what we were looking at.
431
00:18:51,787 --> 00:18:54,834
Now, the law requires us
to open an investigation
432
00:18:54,877 --> 00:18:57,880
24 hours after someone
files a concern,
433
00:18:57,924 --> 00:18:59,578
and we did that.
434
00:18:59,621 --> 00:19:02,929
But it did take us a couple
of days to get out there.
435
00:19:02,972 --> 00:19:05,627
And do you think that might have
accounted for your inability
436
00:19:05,671 --> 00:19:09,631
to recognize these bruises
or marks as evidence of abuse?
437
00:19:09,675 --> 00:19:11,416
Honestly, no.
438
00:19:11,459 --> 00:19:13,548
Generally speaking,
in child welfare cases,
439
00:19:13,592 --> 00:19:16,247
you're almost always talking
about injuries
440
00:19:16,290 --> 00:19:19,032
that are profound enough
to still be in evidence
441
00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:21,687
72, even 96 hours later.
442
00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:23,732
So you saw nothing
that gave you cause
443
00:19:23,776 --> 00:19:25,647
to consider removing the child
444
00:19:25,691 --> 00:19:27,214
from the home?Oh, gosh, no.
445
00:19:27,258 --> 00:19:28,955
That is always a last resort.
446
00:19:28,998 --> 00:19:32,698
My feeling was that
it would be best to continue
447
00:19:32,741 --> 00:19:35,570
to monitor the case, check back
with the family bimonthly,
448
00:19:35,614 --> 00:19:37,268
so that's what we did.
449
00:19:37,311 --> 00:19:39,313
And when the child
was brought to the hospital
450
00:19:39,357 --> 00:19:40,532
with a broken arm?
451
00:19:40,575 --> 00:19:42,447
We got there
as quickly as we could.
452
00:19:42,490 --> 00:19:45,058
But unfortunately,
when we arrived,
453
00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:48,670
the hospital had just discovered
that she was missing.
454
00:19:48,714 --> 00:19:50,498
[gallery murmuring]
455
00:19:53,545 --> 00:19:55,503
No further questions,
Your Honor.
456
00:19:56,591 --> 00:19:58,376
MARISSA:
I'm sure I don't need
457
00:19:58,419 --> 00:19:59,899
to tell you
we didn't win any friends
458
00:19:59,942 --> 00:20:01,901
with that testimony.BULL:
Hey.
459
00:20:01,944 --> 00:20:04,904
The inning's not over until
both sides have been up to bat.
460
00:20:04,947 --> 00:20:06,688
BENNY:
Ms. Lawson,
461
00:20:06,732 --> 00:20:09,604
you have a...
462
00:20:09,648 --> 00:20:11,867
really difficult
job, don't you?
463
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:14,348
It's not the easiest.
464
00:20:14,392 --> 00:20:16,698
In fact, even over a decade ago,
465
00:20:16,742 --> 00:20:19,397
while you were in the midst
of the Sarah Cooper case,
466
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,139
you were carrying double
the recommended number of cases,
467
00:20:23,183 --> 00:20:24,184
isn't that right?
468
00:20:24,228 --> 00:20:25,707
Goes with the territory.
469
00:20:25,751 --> 00:20:27,143
At least in Florida.
470
00:20:27,187 --> 00:20:28,623
Now, Ms. Lawson,
471
00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:31,452
after Mrs. Cooper passed away
472
00:20:31,496 --> 00:20:34,499
and during the time Sarah
was living with her father,
473
00:20:34,542 --> 00:20:36,544
were you aware of any children
474
00:20:36,588 --> 00:20:41,506
in the state of Florida
that died as a result of abuse
475
00:20:41,549 --> 00:20:44,030
while being actively monitored
by your agency?
476
00:20:45,074 --> 00:20:47,599
Sadly, I'm sure some did.
477
00:20:47,642 --> 00:20:49,905
I couldn't give you a number.
478
00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:51,690
We are talking
about 12 years ago.
479
00:20:51,733 --> 00:20:53,126
Indeed.
480
00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:56,521
Would it surprise you
to learn that 12 years ago,
481
00:20:56,564 --> 00:20:59,785
that number was actually 79?
482
00:20:59,828 --> 00:21:01,613
[gallery murmuring]
483
00:21:02,657 --> 00:21:05,660
79 children died
484
00:21:05,704 --> 00:21:09,490
as a result of abuse
while being actively monitored
485
00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:12,450
by Florida Child Service
investigators.
486
00:21:12,493 --> 00:21:14,321
Now,
487
00:21:14,365 --> 00:21:15,757
how long do you think
the defendant
488
00:21:15,801 --> 00:21:17,106
should have waited?
489
00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:19,021
Objection.
Calls for speculation.
490
00:21:19,065 --> 00:21:21,328
How long should
the defendant have waited
491
00:21:21,372 --> 00:21:24,679
before her sister's child
was number 80?
492
00:21:24,723 --> 00:21:26,333
[gallery murmuring]
493
00:21:26,377 --> 00:21:28,161
[gavel banging]
494
00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:29,728
HOPKINS:
Mr. Colón.
495
00:21:29,771 --> 00:21:31,338
You are out of order.
496
00:21:31,382 --> 00:21:32,557
Now the jury
will ignore
497
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,036
that last question.
498
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,734
I apologize, Your Honor.
499
00:21:35,777 --> 00:21:37,736
Actually, I have
no further questions
500
00:21:37,779 --> 00:21:39,433
at this time.
501
00:21:39,477 --> 00:21:40,652
Does the prosecution have
502
00:21:40,695 --> 00:21:42,654
any further questions
for this witness?
503
00:21:42,697 --> 00:21:44,569
Not at this time, Your Honor.
504
00:21:44,612 --> 00:21:46,048
Then the witness is excused.
505
00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:50,575
Please call your next witness.
506
00:21:52,707 --> 00:21:55,667
The prosecution would like to
call Sarah Cooper to the stand.
507
00:21:55,710 --> 00:21:57,886
[gallery murmuring]
508
00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:20,474
What was it like to find out
509
00:22:20,518 --> 00:22:22,650
your name wasn't
your name,
510
00:22:22,694 --> 00:22:24,826
your mother wasn't
your mother?
511
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:26,872
It's hard to describe.
512
00:22:26,915 --> 00:22:29,440
KNIGHT:
Were you surprised to learn
that your biological father
513
00:22:29,483 --> 00:22:31,877
was alive,
after being told
514
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,618
for so many years
that he had died
515
00:22:33,661 --> 00:22:35,881
in Afghanistan?
516
00:22:35,924 --> 00:22:37,012
Of course.
517
00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:38,231
And what were
you thinking,
518
00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:41,713
when you sat here
in this courtroom
519
00:22:41,756 --> 00:22:44,324
two days ago
and watched him,
520
00:22:44,368 --> 00:22:45,673
very much alive,
521
00:22:45,717 --> 00:22:48,241
testify about how much
he loved you and missed you?
522
00:22:49,851 --> 00:22:53,594
Just that I wanted
to talk to him.
523
00:22:53,638 --> 00:22:55,248
Get to know him a little bit.
524
00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:57,859
KNIGHT:
Now,
525
00:22:57,903 --> 00:23:01,472
let's talk about your aunt.
526
00:23:01,515 --> 00:23:04,518
After years of telling you
that she was your mother,
527
00:23:04,562 --> 00:23:07,086
that your father
had died overseas,
528
00:23:07,129 --> 00:23:09,175
what did she tell you
about your father
529
00:23:09,218 --> 00:23:12,396
once she admitted that
he was, in fact, alive?
530
00:23:12,439 --> 00:23:13,745
What did she offer
as an excuse
531
00:23:13,788 --> 00:23:16,835
for taking you from him?
532
00:23:16,878 --> 00:23:19,620
For keeping you from him?
533
00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:22,318
She said that he hurt
my real mother.
534
00:23:25,365 --> 00:23:27,323
She said that he hurt me.
535
00:23:27,367 --> 00:23:28,977
He broke my arm.
536
00:23:29,021 --> 00:23:30,239
Did you believe her?
537
00:23:30,283 --> 00:23:32,633
Objection.
Calls for speculation.
538
00:23:32,677 --> 00:23:34,853
The attorney
is badgering the witness.
539
00:23:34,896 --> 00:23:37,116
And I question
the relevance
540
00:23:37,159 --> 00:23:38,596
of this whole line
of questioning.
541
00:23:38,639 --> 00:23:40,511
KNIGHT:
I'll withdraw
the question, Your Honor.
542
00:23:40,554 --> 00:23:42,556
But if I may just ask
one more thing.
543
00:23:43,601 --> 00:23:44,906
Sarah,
544
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:46,908
are you open to the possibility
545
00:23:46,952 --> 00:23:48,823
of a relationship
with your father
546
00:23:48,867 --> 00:23:50,564
now that you know
that he is alive?
547
00:23:51,826 --> 00:23:54,786
I guess so.
548
00:23:54,829 --> 00:23:56,788
He seems nice.
549
00:23:56,831 --> 00:23:58,442
And I'd...
550
00:23:58,485 --> 00:24:01,053
kinda like to know
what it's like to have a father.
551
00:24:01,096 --> 00:24:02,750
[gallery murmuring]
552
00:24:02,794 --> 00:24:04,752
KNIGHT:
No further questions,
553
00:24:04,796 --> 00:24:06,841
Your Honor.
554
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,932
Chloe...
555
00:24:10,976 --> 00:24:13,457
Is it okay if I call you Chloe?
556
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,937
Would you rather I
address you as Sarah?
557
00:24:15,981 --> 00:24:17,765
Chloe's okay.
558
00:24:17,809 --> 00:24:19,854
I'm kinda used to Chloe.
559
00:24:19,898 --> 00:24:21,290
Chloe it is.
560
00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:24,685
Now, why do you think
561
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:27,688
your mother made you believe
your father was a war hero?
562
00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:28,907
I don't know.
563
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:30,517
I guess so I'd respect him,
564
00:24:30,561 --> 00:24:32,214
feel good about him.
565
00:24:32,258 --> 00:24:33,694
And did she ever...
566
00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:35,783
say anything negative about him
567
00:24:35,827 --> 00:24:38,960
prior to the police
charging her with kidnapping?
568
00:24:39,004 --> 00:24:40,962
No. Never.
569
00:24:41,006 --> 00:24:42,790
Actually,
she always talked about him
570
00:24:42,834 --> 00:24:44,836
like he was pretty amazing.
571
00:24:44,879 --> 00:24:47,665
And would you say
you've been well-cared-for
572
00:24:47,708 --> 00:24:50,276
these past 12 years?
573
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:52,931
Well-clothed? Well-fed?
574
00:24:52,974 --> 00:24:54,759
Did you feel loved?
575
00:24:54,802 --> 00:24:56,151
I did. Yes.
576
00:24:56,195 --> 00:24:59,677
And didn't your mother
put you in private school?
577
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,767
Encourage you to
learn the violin?
578
00:25:02,810 --> 00:25:04,856
Teach you Spanish
and French?
579
00:25:04,899 --> 00:25:06,292
You mean my aunt?
580
00:25:06,335 --> 00:25:08,033
Yes,
581
00:25:08,076 --> 00:25:09,948
she's been
a wonderful parent to me.
582
00:25:09,991 --> 00:25:12,472
And you're old enough
to understand that...
583
00:25:12,516 --> 00:25:14,605
[inhales]
private school,
584
00:25:14,648 --> 00:25:16,694
tutors, music lessons--
585
00:25:16,737 --> 00:25:18,870
all of that costs money.
586
00:25:18,913 --> 00:25:21,307
And who was it that
was paying for it?
587
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:22,874
My aunt.
588
00:25:22,917 --> 00:25:24,440
And, lastly,
589
00:25:24,484 --> 00:25:28,706
have you ever known your aunt
to be violent or aggressive?
590
00:25:28,749 --> 00:25:29,707
No.
591
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:31,230
Did she ever hit you?
592
00:25:31,273 --> 00:25:32,579
No.
593
00:25:32,623 --> 00:25:33,972
She ever
curse at you?No.
594
00:25:34,015 --> 00:25:35,887
Raise her voice?
595
00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:37,410
Once or twice.
596
00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:39,151
But I probably deserved it.
597
00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:42,589
Do you think she loves you?
598
00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:44,678
Uh, yes.
599
00:25:44,722 --> 00:25:46,941
[voice breaking]:
I know she does.
600
00:25:46,985 --> 00:25:48,900
BENNY:
Thank you.
601
00:25:48,943 --> 00:25:50,902
No further questions,
Your Honor.
602
00:25:54,645 --> 00:25:56,081
Give me a burp.[cooing]
603
00:25:56,124 --> 00:25:58,083
I can't put you down
till I get a burp.
604
00:25:58,126 --> 00:26:00,912
[passes gas, coos]
605
00:26:00,955 --> 00:26:03,088
Hey.
606
00:26:03,131 --> 00:26:05,177
That was the wrong end.
607
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:06,352
[cooing]
608
00:26:06,395 --> 00:26:07,919
Come on.
609
00:26:07,962 --> 00:26:08,876
I need a burp.
610
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,399
Here we go.
611
00:26:10,443 --> 00:26:13,141
That's a girl.
612
00:26:13,185 --> 00:26:15,317
Give me a burp.
613
00:26:15,361 --> 00:26:17,363
I...[phone vibrating]
614
00:26:22,586 --> 00:26:24,022
[quietly]:
Hello, Marissa.
615
00:26:24,065 --> 00:26:26,067
Am I catching you at a bad time?
616
00:26:26,111 --> 00:26:28,896
No, I'm just trying to wrap up
the 10:00 p.m. feeding here
617
00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:30,419
in Astrid-land.
618
00:26:30,463 --> 00:26:31,812
Intake went well.
619
00:26:31,856 --> 00:26:33,901
We're just working
on some outbound action.
620
00:26:33,945 --> 00:26:34,902
What's up?
621
00:26:34,946 --> 00:26:36,817
Danny just called from Florida.
622
00:26:36,861 --> 00:26:38,819
She's found two people
that seem to corroborate
623
00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,516
Elena's story about Jim.
624
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,301
One is a teacher
625
00:26:42,344 --> 00:26:44,477
at a preschool that
Jim's two-year-old attended.
626
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,872
That is until she asked
questions about bruises
627
00:26:47,915 --> 00:26:50,918
the little boy started
showing up to school with.Shh...
628
00:26:50,962 --> 00:26:52,050
And she also found
629
00:26:52,093 --> 00:26:54,530
a dermatologist
his new wife was seeing.
630
00:26:54,574 --> 00:26:56,707
Apparently, she has something
to say as well.
631
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:59,971
Both are willing
to fly up to testify.
632
00:27:00,014 --> 00:27:01,581
Well, why don't you e-mail me
633
00:27:01,625 --> 00:27:02,974
all the pertinent details,
634
00:27:03,017 --> 00:27:04,584
and Benny and I will add 'em
to the witness list
635
00:27:04,628 --> 00:27:05,977
tomorrow morning.
636
00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,806
Did Danny find the wife yet?
637
00:27:08,849 --> 00:27:10,155
She thinks
she might be away on business,
638
00:27:10,198 --> 00:27:11,809
but she's still looking.Okay.
639
00:27:11,852 --> 00:27:14,507
Ooh, I felt that.
640
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,727
I got to go.
641
00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:18,729
KNIGHT:
Your Honor,
these new witnesses
642
00:27:18,772 --> 00:27:19,904
aren't witnesses.
643
00:27:19,947 --> 00:27:20,905
BENNY:
Excuse me,
644
00:27:20,948 --> 00:27:22,907
but the prosecution has rested.
645
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:25,170
It is now time for the defense
646
00:27:25,213 --> 00:27:27,259
to present ourdefense,
647
00:27:27,302 --> 00:27:29,478
which is what we're trying
to do right now, Your Honor.
648
00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:32,394
Your Honor, not only have
we had no time to prepare...
649
00:27:32,438 --> 00:27:34,005
Oh, take all the time you need.
650
00:27:34,048 --> 00:27:35,006
Your Honor...
651
00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:36,094
[sighs]
652
00:27:36,137 --> 00:27:37,835
The charges before the court
653
00:27:37,878 --> 00:27:39,967
are extremely serious...Which is why
654
00:27:40,011 --> 00:27:43,144
these witnesses are so
important, Your Honor.
655
00:27:43,188 --> 00:27:47,061
They directly contradict
Jim Cooper's testimony.
656
00:27:47,105 --> 00:27:48,367
He said under oath
657
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,978
that he has never
physically abused anyone.
658
00:27:51,022 --> 00:27:52,850
Well, we have records
659
00:27:52,893 --> 00:27:54,852
from Jim Cooper's
two-year-old son's
660
00:27:54,895 --> 00:27:57,202
former preschool teacher,
661
00:27:57,245 --> 00:27:59,552
who noticed fresh bruises
on the boy.
662
00:27:59,595 --> 00:28:02,120
And when she confronted him
about the bruises,
663
00:28:02,163 --> 00:28:05,036
the teacher said
that he abruptly pulled the kid
664
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:06,080
from the school.
665
00:28:06,124 --> 00:28:07,081
In other words,
666
00:28:07,125 --> 00:28:08,953
she witnessed nothing.
667
00:28:08,996 --> 00:28:10,128
And, secondly,
668
00:28:10,171 --> 00:28:13,305
the current Mrs.
Cooper's dermatologist
669
00:28:13,348 --> 00:28:16,656
treated her for a
burn on her forearm,
670
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,876
which she suspected
was from a cigarette,
671
00:28:18,919 --> 00:28:20,704
less than four weeks ago.
672
00:28:20,747 --> 00:28:22,183
Again, this is
circumstantial evidence
673
00:28:22,227 --> 00:28:24,751
and is irrelevant
to the kidnapping charges.
674
00:28:24,795 --> 00:28:26,318
[Hopkins clears throat]
675
00:28:28,102 --> 00:28:31,105
AUSA Knight makes a valid point.
676
00:28:31,149 --> 00:28:32,541
The real question
677
00:28:32,585 --> 00:28:35,457
is did the witnesses
actually see
678
00:28:35,501 --> 00:28:37,764
Mr. Cooper inflict
these injuries.
679
00:28:37,808 --> 00:28:39,331
Judge Hopkins,
we all know it's unlikely
680
00:28:39,374 --> 00:28:41,899
that Mr. Cooper would beat
his two-year-old son
681
00:28:41,942 --> 00:28:43,335
in front of a crowd
of onlookers
682
00:28:43,378 --> 00:28:44,902
or burn his wife in public.
683
00:28:44,945 --> 00:28:46,817
BENNY:
Your Honor,
684
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:49,515
the jury should be allowed
to hear the testimony,
685
00:28:49,558 --> 00:28:51,996
review the documents,
draw their own inferences.
686
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,911
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm-I'm sorry.
687
00:28:53,954 --> 00:28:55,129
I don't agree.
688
00:28:55,173 --> 00:28:57,044
Mr. Cooper is not
689
00:28:57,088 --> 00:28:58,219
on trial here.
690
00:28:58,263 --> 00:29:00,004
And the probative value
691
00:29:00,047 --> 00:29:03,921
of what sounds like speculation
and-and hearsay
692
00:29:03,964 --> 00:29:07,054
is outweighed by the prejudicial
effect it's certain to have.
693
00:29:07,098 --> 00:29:08,447
And none of it
is relevant
694
00:29:08,490 --> 00:29:11,624
as to whether or not
your client kidnapped his child,
695
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:15,149
which is the only issue
the jury is here to resolve.
696
00:29:15,193 --> 00:29:18,022
Now, I have to agree
with prosecution.
697
00:29:18,065 --> 00:29:20,024
Unless these people
698
00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:22,722
actually witnessed Mr. Cooper
hurt someone,
699
00:29:22,766 --> 00:29:25,551
their testimony is irrelevant.
700
00:29:25,594 --> 00:29:27,814
Do you have any other witnesses
you want to present?
701
00:29:27,858 --> 00:29:29,120
With Your Honor's permission,
702
00:29:29,163 --> 00:29:31,862
we would like to ask
for a one-day continuance.
703
00:29:31,905 --> 00:29:35,735
I'd love to confer
with my client on next steps.
704
00:29:35,779 --> 00:29:38,390
It's like I told you.
705
00:29:38,433 --> 00:29:40,914
Bottom line is
she did it.
706
00:29:40,958 --> 00:29:43,525
She took
this man's child.
707
00:29:43,569 --> 00:29:45,310
Kind of impossible
708
00:29:45,353 --> 00:29:48,008
to mount a defense against
something that's indisputable.
709
00:29:55,059 --> 00:29:56,103
I just heard.
710
00:29:56,147 --> 00:29:57,801
No court today.
711
00:29:57,844 --> 00:30:00,455
They want me to change,
take me back to prison.
712
00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:02,544
Is everything all right?
713
00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:04,982
We need to talk.
714
00:30:05,025 --> 00:30:06,810
We can
715
00:30:06,853 --> 00:30:07,941
press forward.
716
00:30:07,985 --> 00:30:09,682
Mr. Colón could put you
on the stand.
717
00:30:09,725 --> 00:30:12,163
You're really
the only witness we have.
718
00:30:12,206 --> 00:30:13,817
Unfortunately,
719
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:16,080
you're not the witness we need.
720
00:30:17,124 --> 00:30:18,517
What do you mean?
721
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,823
We need someone
722
00:30:19,866 --> 00:30:21,476
who can tell the jury under oath
723
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,176
that they've actually seen Mr.
Cooper be physically abusive.
724
00:30:25,219 --> 00:30:28,005
Preferably
multiple times.
725
00:30:28,048 --> 00:30:29,267
It's the only thing
726
00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:32,183
that's gonna make the jury
second-guess
727
00:30:32,226 --> 00:30:33,793
the A.D.A.'s assertion
728
00:30:33,837 --> 00:30:35,621
that you're nothing more
than a kidnapper.
729
00:30:35,664 --> 00:30:37,884
With your permission,
what I'd like to do
730
00:30:37,928 --> 00:30:40,974
is go to the A.D.A.
and see if we can't broker
731
00:30:41,018 --> 00:30:42,236
some kind of a deal.
732
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,108
She's not a
stupid person.
733
00:30:44,151 --> 00:30:46,545
She knows
that this hearsay
734
00:30:46,588 --> 00:30:48,939
and circumstantial evidence
may not hold up in court,
735
00:30:48,982 --> 00:30:52,246
but I'm willing to bet she knows
there's a whiff of truth to it.
736
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:54,422
Maybe we can use that
737
00:30:54,466 --> 00:30:57,599
to wrestle
some favorable terms from her.
738
00:30:57,643 --> 00:31:00,341
Would I still have
to go to prison?
739
00:31:01,386 --> 00:31:03,954
Yes.
740
00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:06,739
I'm hoping we can keep it
to less than five years,
741
00:31:06,782 --> 00:31:09,220
as opposed to the ten to 20
you're looking at now.
742
00:31:10,264 --> 00:31:12,527
Oh, my God.
743
00:31:15,095 --> 00:31:17,097
What about Chloe?
744
00:31:18,142 --> 00:31:19,143
She'd be
745
00:31:19,186 --> 00:31:20,709
returned back to her father.
746
00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:22,755
[sobs]
747
00:31:23,843 --> 00:31:25,932
She's 15.
748
00:31:25,976 --> 00:31:27,194
If he starts abusing her,
749
00:31:27,238 --> 00:31:29,196
it will not stay secret long.
750
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,719
And for what it's worth,
751
00:31:30,763 --> 00:31:33,897
your ex-brother-in-law
is on notice.
752
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,246
He knows
753
00:31:35,289 --> 00:31:37,248
we're all watching.
754
00:31:37,291 --> 00:31:40,207
And would I ever get
to see her again?
755
00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:43,732
Do I get to see Chloe?
756
00:31:43,776 --> 00:31:45,343
[takes deep breath]
757
00:31:45,386 --> 00:31:48,694
You'd be
a convicted kidnapper, so...
758
00:31:48,737 --> 00:31:50,261
no, I don't think
759
00:31:50,304 --> 00:31:52,132
that's at all likely.
760
00:31:52,176 --> 00:31:53,525
[sobbing]
761
00:32:06,016 --> 00:32:08,714
[seabirds squawking][knocking]
762
00:32:08,757 --> 00:32:11,108
Mrs. Cooper?
763
00:32:11,151 --> 00:32:13,414
My name is Danny James.
I'm an investigator
764
00:32:13,458 --> 00:32:16,026
working on a court case
involving your husband
765
00:32:16,069 --> 00:32:18,942
and his daughter
from a previous marriage.
766
00:32:18,985 --> 00:32:21,379
I'm... kind of
on vacation with my son.
767
00:32:21,422 --> 00:32:23,903
I don't really want
to get involved.
768
00:32:23,947 --> 00:32:25,949
I promise,
it'll be two minutes.
769
00:32:28,386 --> 00:32:30,736
Mrs. Cooper,
don't make me get a subpoena.
770
00:32:31,737 --> 00:32:33,739
[door unlocking]
771
00:32:38,265 --> 00:32:40,876
Can we make this fast?
772
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,837
I-I promised my little boy I
would take him to a water park.
773
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,447
Sure. And I'm sorry.
774
00:32:46,491 --> 00:32:49,450
Uh, look, we have reason
to believe that your husband
775
00:32:49,494 --> 00:32:51,844
may have been physically abusive
to your little boy.
776
00:32:51,887 --> 00:32:54,238
And to you.
777
00:32:54,281 --> 00:32:55,804
[chuckles]:
Seriously?
778
00:32:55,848 --> 00:32:58,024
That's what you want
to talk to me about?
779
00:32:58,068 --> 00:33:00,026
Where did you
hear that?
780
00:33:00,070 --> 00:33:01,985
That's crazy.
781
00:33:02,768 --> 00:33:04,335
Are you married?
782
00:33:04,378 --> 00:33:05,858
You ever been married?
783
00:33:05,901 --> 00:33:08,121
No.Well, I've only
been at it
784
00:33:08,165 --> 00:33:10,863
for a few years, but let
me tell you two things
785
00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:12,604
I know for sure.
786
00:33:12,647 --> 00:33:15,128
One, marriage,
787
00:33:15,172 --> 00:33:19,045
like any deal, is filled
with lots of good
788
00:33:19,089 --> 00:33:21,134
and also some bad.
789
00:33:21,178 --> 00:33:22,962
My boy.
790
00:33:23,006 --> 00:33:24,355
I love my boy.
791
00:33:24,398 --> 00:33:26,574
And that's one of the
goods, one of the greats.
792
00:33:26,618 --> 00:33:29,055
And I don't worry
much about...
793
00:33:29,099 --> 00:33:32,493
bills anymore, and you
can't hate that, so...
794
00:33:32,537 --> 00:33:34,191
if my husband comes
home sometimes
795
00:33:34,234 --> 00:33:37,237
and he's not in a
stellar mood, then...I'm not just talking
796
00:33:37,281 --> 00:33:39,848
about someone in a bad mood,
Mrs. Cooper.And the other thing--
797
00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:42,068
and you ought
to know this--
798
00:33:42,112 --> 00:33:45,550
uh, you can't force me to
testify against my own husband.
799
00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:48,031
You can't.
800
00:33:49,293 --> 00:33:52,252
Plus, I don't have
anything to testify to.
801
00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:54,950
So are we done here?
802
00:33:54,994 --> 00:33:57,997
I can help you.
I can help both of you.
803
00:33:59,042 --> 00:34:00,434
By how?
804
00:34:00,478 --> 00:34:03,002
By-by destroying my family?
805
00:34:03,046 --> 00:34:05,352
And anyway,
like I said...
806
00:34:05,396 --> 00:34:08,877
isn't what happens between a
husband and a wife private?
807
00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:12,359
Conversations between spouses
are privileged, but...
808
00:34:12,403 --> 00:34:15,797
not when there are
allegations of abuse.
809
00:34:15,841 --> 00:34:17,582
Okay, I think you
need to go now.
810
00:34:17,625 --> 00:34:19,410
You wouldn't have to look
at him in court.
811
00:34:19,453 --> 00:34:22,021
We could have him
sequestered.
812
00:34:22,065 --> 00:34:24,458
And after the trial,
my boss and I, we would help you
813
00:34:24,502 --> 00:34:26,895
and your little son
back on your feet.
814
00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:28,854
And in a safe place,
I promise.
815
00:34:28,897 --> 00:34:30,986
That is...
[takes deep breath]
816
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:33,076
if you're willing
to testify.
817
00:34:34,077 --> 00:34:35,426
That is...
818
00:34:35,469 --> 00:34:37,297
if you're willing to admit
819
00:34:37,341 --> 00:34:40,257
you actually have something
to testify to.
820
00:34:42,172 --> 00:34:43,869
NOAH:
Mommy?
821
00:34:43,912 --> 00:34:45,827
Oh.
822
00:34:45,871 --> 00:34:47,525
Noah.
823
00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:51,050
Say hello to the nice lady.
824
00:34:59,537 --> 00:35:00,973
[sighs]
825
00:35:04,281 --> 00:35:06,544
Let me call my mother.
826
00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:09,068
See if she can take my baby.
827
00:35:10,852 --> 00:35:12,811
BENNY:
Mrs. Cooper,
828
00:35:12,854 --> 00:35:16,162
I know it's uncomfortable
you being here.
829
00:35:16,206 --> 00:35:19,861
We've sequestered your
husband as per your request,
830
00:35:19,905 --> 00:35:22,125
and, speaking for the defense,
831
00:35:22,168 --> 00:35:24,127
we really appreciate you
making the trip.
832
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:26,781
It's okay.Now,
833
00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:30,916
when your husband told you
he needed to come to New York
834
00:35:30,959 --> 00:35:32,570
for a court date,
835
00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:35,007
did he explain the
nature of the trial?
836
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:37,183
Uh, no, not really.
837
00:35:37,227 --> 00:35:40,186
He said it was
a business thing.
838
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:43,058
So you and your
two-year-old son
839
00:35:43,102 --> 00:35:45,452
just decided to take
a little road trip?
840
00:35:45,496 --> 00:35:47,280
Yes.
841
00:35:47,324 --> 00:35:49,891
I just...
842
00:35:49,935 --> 00:35:53,025
with Jim away...
843
00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:55,201
I just needed
to do some thinking.
844
00:35:55,245 --> 00:35:56,420
Well...
845
00:35:56,463 --> 00:36:00,119
I'm sorry to have
interrupted your trip.
846
00:36:00,163 --> 00:36:02,382
So let me get
right into it.
847
00:36:03,905 --> 00:36:05,385
[whispers]:
Here goes nothing.
848
00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:07,474
BENNY:
Mrs. Cooper,
849
00:36:07,518 --> 00:36:10,129
have you ever been
afraid of your husband?
850
00:36:10,173 --> 00:36:12,479
Yes.
851
00:36:12,523 --> 00:36:15,961
And can you please
explain to the jury why?
852
00:36:16,004 --> 00:36:18,529
Uh, he yells at me
sometimes.
853
00:36:19,399 --> 00:36:21,488
Like when
our two-year-old cries.
854
00:36:21,532 --> 00:36:25,797
And he'll, uh, slam doors...
855
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,104
break things
when something upsets him.
856
00:36:29,148 --> 00:36:30,715
And in the past,
857
00:36:30,758 --> 00:36:33,587
when something upset him,
has he ever gotten physical
858
00:36:33,631 --> 00:36:35,285
with you or Noah?
859
00:36:37,852 --> 00:36:39,811
This was from a week ago.
860
00:36:39,854 --> 00:36:42,335
[gallery murmuring]
861
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:48,254
BENNY:
Let the record reflect
862
00:36:48,298 --> 00:36:50,474
that the witness is talking
863
00:36:50,517 --> 00:36:54,521
about the bruising and swelling
on the right side of her face.
864
00:36:56,175 --> 00:36:59,700
And can you please explain the
events surrounding the injury?
865
00:36:59,744 --> 00:37:03,748
I told Jim
I wanted to go back to school,
866
00:37:03,791 --> 00:37:07,230
and he started screaming
about who would care for Noah.
867
00:37:07,273 --> 00:37:09,275
And then what happened?
868
00:37:09,319 --> 00:37:12,757
I-I told him...
that we would figure it out.
869
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,063
A lot of people figure it out.
870
00:37:15,107 --> 00:37:17,152
And how did he respond?He...
871
00:37:17,196 --> 00:37:20,025
balled up his fist and...
872
00:37:22,462 --> 00:37:24,029
I lost two teeth.
873
00:37:24,072 --> 00:37:26,031
[gallery murmuring]
874
00:37:29,426 --> 00:37:32,690
BENNY: Now, let's talk
about your two-year-old son.
875
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:36,215
He has his arm in a
sling, doesn't he?
876
00:37:36,259 --> 00:37:38,043
He does.
877
00:37:38,086 --> 00:37:39,044
And...
878
00:37:39,087 --> 00:37:40,741
do you know what
happened to him?
879
00:37:40,785 --> 00:37:43,309
Yes, and no.
880
00:37:43,353 --> 00:37:46,094
I had to work on a Saturday,
881
00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:48,619
and Jim stayed home with him.
882
00:37:48,662 --> 00:37:50,708
He wasn't happy about it.
883
00:37:51,926 --> 00:37:54,233
And when I got home
eight hours later,
884
00:37:54,277 --> 00:37:56,844
they had already been
to the emergency room and back.
885
00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:01,849
Apparently, Noah's arm
got pulled out of its socket.
886
00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:03,155
[gallery murmuring]
887
00:38:04,722 --> 00:38:07,333
Jim said they
were just horsing around.
888
00:38:12,686 --> 00:38:13,644
What did Noah say?
889
00:38:13,687 --> 00:38:14,819
Objection. Hearsay.
890
00:38:14,862 --> 00:38:16,211
Your Honor,
891
00:38:16,255 --> 00:38:17,865
the child is
two years old.
892
00:38:17,909 --> 00:38:19,084
Would you really have me
893
00:38:19,127 --> 00:38:20,520
call him here
894
00:38:20,564 --> 00:38:23,175
to testify?[sighs]:
I'll allow it.
895
00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:26,178
Witness will answer
the question.
896
00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:28,136
No, he-he didn't
really say anything.
897
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:31,183
He's only two,
and he's very shy.
898
00:38:33,054 --> 00:38:35,013
But every time
Jim comes near him,
899
00:38:35,056 --> 00:38:37,102
he hides behind my leg.Objection.
900
00:38:37,145 --> 00:38:39,191
Your Honor,
this is simply speculation.
901
00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,062
It proves nothing.
902
00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:43,761
Objection sustained.
The jury will disregard
903
00:38:43,804 --> 00:38:46,024
the witness's testimony
with respect
904
00:38:46,067 --> 00:38:47,068
to her two-year-old child.
905
00:38:47,112 --> 00:38:49,070
Isn't it true
your son had
906
00:38:49,114 --> 00:38:52,683
a preschool teacher
that expressed concern
907
00:38:52,726 --> 00:38:55,599
about visible bruising
on the boy's body
908
00:38:55,642 --> 00:38:57,383
and brought it
to your husband's attention,
909
00:38:57,427 --> 00:39:02,040
who responded by withdrawing
your child from the school?
910
00:39:02,083 --> 00:39:04,085
Way to slip one in, Benny.KNIGHT:
Your Honor,
911
00:39:04,129 --> 00:39:06,087
objection.
This is just more hearsay
912
00:39:06,131 --> 00:39:08,176
masquerading as testimony.
913
00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:10,135
Objection sustained.
Counselor,
914
00:39:10,178 --> 00:39:12,355
I know what you're doing.
915
00:39:12,398 --> 00:39:13,443
I don't like it.
916
00:39:13,486 --> 00:39:15,270
Now, I need you to ask questions
917
00:39:15,314 --> 00:39:17,098
that pertain only to events
918
00:39:17,142 --> 00:39:18,709
that the witness
would have seen for herself.
919
00:39:18,752 --> 00:39:20,319
BENNY:
Yes, Your Honor.
920
00:39:20,363 --> 00:39:21,842
[whispers]:
Come on.
921
00:39:21,886 --> 00:39:24,149
They got to be reacting to this.
922
00:39:24,192 --> 00:39:28,109
Indeed they are.
You just flipped two.
923
00:39:31,243 --> 00:39:34,333
Mrs. Cooper...
924
00:39:34,377 --> 00:39:37,336
were there any other incidents
of physical violence
925
00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:40,905
that either involved you
or to which...
926
00:39:40,948 --> 00:39:42,646
you were a
direct witness?
927
00:39:42,689 --> 00:39:45,431
He, uh...
928
00:39:45,475 --> 00:39:47,912
burned me.
929
00:39:48,956 --> 00:39:51,306
Here and here.
930
00:39:52,351 --> 00:39:53,613
With cigarettes.
931
00:39:53,657 --> 00:39:56,268
He...
932
00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:58,575
bit my ear.
933
00:39:58,618 --> 00:40:01,142
I had to get stitches.
934
00:40:01,186 --> 00:40:03,057
Anything else?
935
00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:06,409
He kicked me once.
936
00:40:06,452 --> 00:40:08,193
Kicked you where,
937
00:40:08,236 --> 00:40:10,151
Mrs. Cooper?
938
00:40:10,195 --> 00:40:12,458
Between my legs.
939
00:40:12,502 --> 00:40:14,199
[gallery murmuring]
940
00:40:14,242 --> 00:40:16,288
BENNY:
And you were able
941
00:40:16,331 --> 00:40:19,726
to document
each of these incidents?
942
00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:21,162
In each case,
943
00:40:21,206 --> 00:40:23,513
you went and sought
medical attention afterwards?
944
00:40:23,556 --> 00:40:25,166
Yes.
945
00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:27,299
Although, I always
made up a story
946
00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:30,215
as to how I got the injury.
947
00:40:30,258 --> 00:40:32,435
Thank you.
948
00:40:32,478 --> 00:40:34,437
No further questions,
Your Honor.
949
00:40:40,617 --> 00:40:43,533
So, you admit you lied
about the details
950
00:40:43,576 --> 00:40:46,318
when you sought medical
help for these...
951
00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:48,276
so-called injuries?
952
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,365
Yes. I was embarrassed.
953
00:40:50,409 --> 00:40:52,455
So tell me,
Mrs. Cooper,
954
00:40:52,498 --> 00:40:55,545
now that we've established
that you're an admitted liar,
955
00:40:55,588 --> 00:40:59,244
why should we believe
anything else you say?
956
00:40:59,287 --> 00:41:00,724
For instance,
957
00:41:00,767 --> 00:41:03,770
how do we know these injures
aren't self-inflicted?
958
00:41:05,424 --> 00:41:06,338
Well, I...
959
00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:08,906
I wouldn't burn my own arm...
960
00:41:08,949 --> 00:41:10,908
ma'am.
961
00:41:10,951 --> 00:41:13,867
And I'm not even sure
how I would bite my own ear.
962
00:41:13,911 --> 00:41:15,521
Not to mention
963
00:41:15,565 --> 00:41:17,349
kick myself...
964
00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:20,352
where I indicated.
965
00:41:36,803 --> 00:41:38,892
Wait, where is Mr. Colón?
966
00:41:38,936 --> 00:41:40,503
Well, he stayed behind
967
00:41:40,546 --> 00:41:42,722
to talk to your
ex-brother-in-law's new wife.
968
00:41:42,766 --> 00:41:44,724
She wanted to file charges
against him,
969
00:41:44,768 --> 00:41:46,987
and Benny's offered
to put her in touch
970
00:41:47,031 --> 00:41:49,033
with the D.A. in Florida.
971
00:41:52,602 --> 00:41:54,517
How do I do this?
972
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,909
Where do I start?
973
00:41:55,953 --> 00:41:59,217
Am I Elena, or do I go
back to being Angela?
974
00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:02,263
What do people call me?
What do I call myself?
975
00:42:03,264 --> 00:42:04,570
CHLOE:
Mom!
976
00:42:04,614 --> 00:42:06,572
♪
977
00:42:08,356 --> 00:42:10,358
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