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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,498 --> 00:00:18,501 $600 for a freaking T-shirt? 2 00:00:18,545 --> 00:00:21,287 Did you say $600? 3 00:00:21,330 --> 00:00:22,636 Wow. 4 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:24,638 This is SoHo, Chloe. 5 00:00:24,681 --> 00:00:26,074 Still. 6 00:00:26,118 --> 00:00:28,207 [clerk clears throat] 7 00:00:28,250 --> 00:00:31,166 Ladies, let me know if there's anything I can help you with. 8 00:00:31,210 --> 00:00:33,212 Thank you. 9 00:00:36,084 --> 00:00:38,608 We should probably head back to Brooklyn soon. 10 00:00:39,653 --> 00:00:42,221 Oh, my God, a scarf is $400? 11 00:00:47,661 --> 00:00:49,184 Should I get it? 12 00:00:49,228 --> 00:00:51,665 What? No. Your mom will kill you. 13 00:00:54,494 --> 00:00:55,625 NINA: Hey. 14 00:00:55,669 --> 00:00:58,672 I didn't say anything about buying it. 15 00:01:01,153 --> 00:01:02,502 Oh, come on. 16 00:01:02,545 --> 00:01:04,286 Warmth is a fundamental human right. 17 00:01:04,330 --> 00:01:08,073 And I need a scarf. 18 00:01:08,116 --> 00:01:11,206 Relax. You're gonna attract attention. 19 00:01:15,384 --> 00:01:16,907 NINA: Hey. 20 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:20,302 You should get those earrings. They're your favorite color. 21 00:01:20,346 --> 00:01:22,522 I don't think so. 22 00:01:22,565 --> 00:01:25,307 Do you know how cute you'd look with them? 23 00:01:45,110 --> 00:01:46,198 Sorry, ladies. 24 00:01:46,241 --> 00:01:49,679 I'm gonna need to see inside those purses. 25 00:01:55,207 --> 00:01:57,731 Good afternoon. My name is Elena Smith. 26 00:01:57,774 --> 00:02:00,125 I got a phone call that my 15-year-old daughter 27 00:02:00,168 --> 00:02:02,518 was arrested for shoplifting? 28 00:02:08,872 --> 00:02:10,135 Wait, there must be some mistake. 29 00:02:10,178 --> 00:02:12,441 I'm supposed to meet my daughter in here. 30 00:02:12,485 --> 00:02:14,269 There's been no mistake, Ms. Smith. 31 00:02:14,313 --> 00:02:15,966 It's you we want to talk to. 32 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:18,143 I'm Agent Franks with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 33 00:02:18,186 --> 00:02:19,318 This is Agent Arnold. 34 00:02:19,361 --> 00:02:21,407 Would you please take a seat? 35 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:22,886 Shoplifting? 36 00:02:22,930 --> 00:02:26,281 Is that something the FBI gets involved with these days? 37 00:02:26,325 --> 00:02:29,110 Uh, just for the record, you're Chloe Smith's mom?Yes. 38 00:02:29,154 --> 00:02:31,765 Is she okay? W-What did she do? 39 00:02:33,288 --> 00:02:36,204 Chloe's real name isn't Chloe at all, is it? 40 00:02:36,248 --> 00:02:38,163 And her last name isn't Smith. 41 00:02:38,206 --> 00:02:40,774 For that matter, I'm guessing neither is yours. 42 00:02:41,818 --> 00:02:44,169 Your daughter, who isn't your daughter, 43 00:02:44,212 --> 00:02:47,346 her real name is Sarah Cooper, isn't it? 44 00:02:47,389 --> 00:02:48,912 FRANKS: We ran her prints. 45 00:02:48,956 --> 00:02:51,219 She's originally from Clearwater, Florida, 46 00:02:51,263 --> 00:02:53,874 and we suspect maybe you are, too. 47 00:02:53,917 --> 00:02:57,617 Your real name's Angela Brown, isn't it? 48 00:02:57,660 --> 00:02:59,053 ARNOLD: Ms. Brown, 49 00:02:59,096 --> 00:03:01,055 we've been looking for you and that little girl 50 00:03:01,098 --> 00:03:02,448 for an awfully long time. 51 00:03:03,492 --> 00:03:05,190 [knocking on glass] 52 00:03:08,236 --> 00:03:09,542 Go away.BENNY: No. 53 00:03:09,585 --> 00:03:11,500 Nope. I need to speak with you. 54 00:03:11,544 --> 00:03:13,110 Have some mercy. 55 00:03:13,154 --> 00:03:15,200 You know I have a two-week-old at home. 56 00:03:15,243 --> 00:03:17,898 I know that.[knocking on glass] 57 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,425 She's adorable, but confused. 58 00:03:23,469 --> 00:03:26,211 Doesn't know night from day.[knocking continues] 59 00:03:26,254 --> 00:03:27,864 Ugh, come on. 60 00:03:27,908 --> 00:03:31,303 I'm working on 22 minutes' sleep here. 61 00:03:31,346 --> 00:03:33,566 I beg you. 62 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:36,308 Sorry, Bull. 63 00:03:36,351 --> 00:03:38,266 You know, I just, uh, 64 00:03:38,310 --> 00:03:40,834 got off the phone with my financial guy, 65 00:03:40,877 --> 00:03:42,705 trying to start a college fund 66 00:03:42,749 --> 00:03:46,622 for baby Bull, but I got to have her full name. 67 00:03:46,666 --> 00:03:48,407 They won't let me open up an account 68 00:03:48,450 --> 00:03:51,236 without a last name and a first name. 69 00:03:51,279 --> 00:03:54,151 So what's it gonna be? Asa or Ingrid? 70 00:03:54,195 --> 00:03:56,545 Remember? 71 00:03:56,589 --> 00:03:59,244 You told me you wanted to name her Ingrid, 72 00:03:59,287 --> 00:04:01,376 and Izzy wanted to name her Asa. 73 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:04,161 So where'd you guys end up? 74 00:04:04,205 --> 00:04:05,554 We met in the middle. 75 00:04:05,598 --> 00:04:07,252 What? Inga? 76 00:04:07,295 --> 00:04:09,036 Astrid. 77 00:04:09,079 --> 00:04:10,255 Ah. 78 00:04:11,343 --> 00:04:14,171 Astrid. 79 00:04:14,215 --> 00:04:16,957 I like it. Never heard it before, 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,175 but I like it. 81 00:04:18,219 --> 00:04:19,829 Same here. 82 00:04:19,873 --> 00:04:21,048 [knocking on glass] 83 00:04:21,091 --> 00:04:22,267 [sighs] See what you started? 84 00:04:23,442 --> 00:04:25,618 You two boys interested in running up 85 00:04:25,661 --> 00:04:28,273 to the Metropolitan Correctional Center late this afternoon, 86 00:04:28,316 --> 00:04:31,145 and talking to a woman accused of kidnapping her niece 87 00:04:31,188 --> 00:04:34,279 12 years ago and bringing her up as her daughter? 88 00:04:34,322 --> 00:04:36,063 [cell door closes] 89 00:04:36,106 --> 00:04:41,329 12 years ago, my younger sister Marie died in a car accident. 90 00:04:41,373 --> 00:04:42,635 She had just dropped her three-year-old daughter 91 00:04:42,678 --> 00:04:44,071 off at day care. 92 00:04:44,114 --> 00:04:45,855 Sarah. Sarah Cooper. 93 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:48,031 Yes. 94 00:04:48,075 --> 00:04:49,946 That was the name she was born with. 95 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,861 Sarah Cooper. 96 00:04:51,905 --> 00:04:54,081 And what about her father? 97 00:04:54,124 --> 00:04:58,172 What was going on with Sarah's father after your sister died? 98 00:04:58,215 --> 00:05:01,349 My brother-in-law had issues with impulse control. 99 00:05:01,393 --> 00:05:05,353 Struggled with his drinking, with drugs. 100 00:05:05,397 --> 00:05:08,095 He used to beat my sister. 101 00:05:08,138 --> 00:05:10,619 He used to hurt Chloe. 102 00:05:10,663 --> 00:05:12,273 Sarah. 103 00:05:12,317 --> 00:05:13,840 And you witnessed this? 104 00:05:13,883 --> 00:05:15,363 I saw the bruises. 105 00:05:15,407 --> 00:05:17,191 But your sister confided in you? 106 00:05:17,234 --> 00:05:18,714 She didn't have to confide in me. 107 00:05:18,758 --> 00:05:21,500 S-She didn't have to say it. She was my sister. 108 00:05:21,543 --> 00:05:25,417 Uh, these bruises, did you ask her about them? 109 00:05:25,460 --> 00:05:26,853 I tried. 110 00:05:26,896 --> 00:05:31,074 She'd tell me she walked into a door. 111 00:05:31,118 --> 00:05:34,251 Or when her hand had what looked to me like cigarette burns, 112 00:05:34,295 --> 00:05:37,603 she'd tell me she did it to herself on the stove. 113 00:05:37,646 --> 00:05:39,300 Tell me about Sarah. 114 00:05:39,344 --> 00:05:41,868 After Marie died, 115 00:05:41,911 --> 00:05:44,218 I noticed she started having bruises. 116 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:46,176 And did you ask your brother-in-law? 117 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:48,353 The girl's father? 118 00:05:48,396 --> 00:05:50,398 He'd tell me Sarah fell down. 119 00:05:50,442 --> 00:05:52,313 "Sarah fell off her big wheel." 120 00:05:52,357 --> 00:05:55,011 There was always a story. 121 00:05:55,055 --> 00:05:58,406 So, I contacted Florida's Department 122 00:05:58,450 --> 00:06:00,408 of Children and Families. 123 00:06:00,452 --> 00:06:02,454 But by the time they came out to investigate, 124 00:06:02,497 --> 00:06:04,456 the bruises were almost gone. 125 00:06:04,499 --> 00:06:06,893 I think I reported him five, six times. 126 00:06:06,936 --> 00:06:09,330 And then, one day, 127 00:06:09,374 --> 00:06:13,160 I went over there to visit my niece, 128 00:06:13,203 --> 00:06:16,293 and they told me she was in the hospital with a broken arm. 129 00:06:16,337 --> 00:06:19,862 Jim said she fell down the stairs. 130 00:06:19,906 --> 00:06:22,474 But when I went to the hospital 131 00:06:22,517 --> 00:06:27,000 and asked Sarah what had happened, she wouldn't tell me. 132 00:06:27,043 --> 00:06:30,395 She just looked sad. 133 00:06:30,438 --> 00:06:33,223 She wouldn't say anything. 134 00:06:33,267 --> 00:06:37,227 So, the next morning, I went back to the hospital. 135 00:06:37,271 --> 00:06:40,405 And I told her we were going on a trip. 136 00:06:42,494 --> 00:06:44,626 That was 12 years ago. 137 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:47,934 Let's talk about the trial. It's not gonna be easy. 138 00:06:47,977 --> 00:06:49,370 There's no denying what you did. 139 00:06:49,414 --> 00:06:51,764 You took a child who wasn't yours. 140 00:06:51,807 --> 00:06:53,940 A child who still had a parent. 141 00:06:53,983 --> 00:06:56,333 And there's no jury 142 00:06:56,377 --> 00:06:58,335 that's gonna have an easy time looking past that, 143 00:06:58,379 --> 00:07:02,296 which is why Sarah-- Chloe-- 144 00:07:02,339 --> 00:07:04,037 is the key to your defense. 145 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,865 The key? 146 00:07:05,908 --> 00:07:09,346 How? She was only three when all this happened. 147 00:07:09,390 --> 00:07:11,131 She doesn't remember anything. 148 00:07:11,174 --> 00:07:12,611 Of course. 149 00:07:12,654 --> 00:07:16,484 But surely she has an opinion on you as a mother. 150 00:07:16,528 --> 00:07:18,921 How did she react when you told her you'd been arrested? 151 00:07:18,965 --> 00:07:23,012 I told her I'd been called away on a business trip. 152 00:07:23,056 --> 00:07:25,537 I called her friend's parents and asked if she could stay 153 00:07:25,580 --> 00:07:27,669 with them for a day or two. 154 00:07:27,713 --> 00:07:30,324 Ms. Smith, Ms. Brown, 155 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:31,673 you need to explain to your niece 156 00:07:31,717 --> 00:07:32,935 what's really going on here. 157 00:07:32,979 --> 00:07:35,372 That is a conversation that has to be had. 158 00:07:35,416 --> 00:07:36,765 BENNY: Dr. Bull is right. 159 00:07:36,809 --> 00:07:40,769 She is the most important witness we have. 160 00:07:40,813 --> 00:07:43,642 Now, we're happy to bring Chloe here, tomorrow. 161 00:07:43,685 --> 00:07:45,905 Give you two a chance to talk. 162 00:07:45,948 --> 00:07:48,647 Here? [exhales] 163 00:07:48,690 --> 00:07:52,172 So I can tell her her whole life's been a fiction? 164 00:07:52,215 --> 00:07:54,391 She thinks her father is dead, 165 00:07:54,435 --> 00:07:57,264 that he's a war hero, he lost his life in Afghanistan. 166 00:07:57,307 --> 00:07:58,831 Be that as it may, 167 00:07:58,874 --> 00:08:01,007 if that girl doesn't tell the jury what a wonderful mother 168 00:08:01,050 --> 00:08:02,922 you've been, you will be found guilty. 169 00:08:02,965 --> 00:08:05,794 And the authorities will almost certainly return her 170 00:08:05,838 --> 00:08:08,231 to the man you're convinced hurt her. 171 00:08:09,276 --> 00:08:11,278 [crying] 172 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:14,803 Tell me you'll call her tonight. 173 00:08:14,847 --> 00:08:17,589 Tell me you'll explain you need to see her. 174 00:08:18,633 --> 00:08:21,767 Okay. 175 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:23,595 I'll call her. 176 00:08:23,638 --> 00:08:26,162 I'll tell her about the two of you. 177 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:27,990 That you'll be bringing her to me. 178 00:08:28,034 --> 00:08:29,296 [sniffles] 179 00:08:30,340 --> 00:08:33,039 But I won't tell her where. 180 00:08:33,082 --> 00:08:35,563 And I won't tell her why. 181 00:08:35,607 --> 00:08:37,826 I-I just can't. 182 00:08:41,569 --> 00:08:43,528 ♪ 183 00:08:51,144 --> 00:08:53,189 BENNY: Here she comes. 184 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:55,278 [car door opens] 185 00:08:55,322 --> 00:08:58,934 ♪ 186 00:08:58,978 --> 00:09:01,284 [sniffling] 187 00:09:03,635 --> 00:09:05,724 [engine starts] 188 00:09:09,728 --> 00:09:11,730 You all right? 189 00:09:14,341 --> 00:09:16,343 [whispers]: It's a lot. 190 00:09:18,563 --> 00:09:20,913 It is. 191 00:09:20,956 --> 00:09:23,176 [sighs] I hate to be the naysayer... 192 00:09:23,219 --> 00:09:24,438 No, you don't.I-I don't know 193 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:26,179 how we're supposed to prove abuse 194 00:09:26,222 --> 00:09:27,963 that supposedly happened over 12 years ago 195 00:09:28,007 --> 00:09:30,836 in a place that's over a thousand miles away. 196 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:32,446 CHUNK: I don't know. I mean, the kid did 197 00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:33,621 break her arm. 198 00:09:33,665 --> 00:09:35,449 Yeah, but it was a spiral fracture, 199 00:09:35,492 --> 00:09:37,103 which is actually pretty common. 200 00:09:37,146 --> 00:09:38,974 It can happen when you yank a toddler's arm 201 00:09:39,018 --> 00:09:40,454 or when you're just horsing around, 202 00:09:40,497 --> 00:09:41,803 which is what the dad told the doctors. 203 00:09:41,847 --> 00:09:45,067 Speaking of the father... 204 00:09:45,111 --> 00:09:47,069 Tell us what you know. 205 00:09:47,113 --> 00:09:48,636 His name is Jim Cooper. 206 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:50,943 Went through kind of a dark period after his wife passed 207 00:09:50,986 --> 00:09:52,640 and his daughter disappeared. 208 00:09:52,684 --> 00:09:55,338 Couldn't hold down a job, got himself into a lot of debt. 209 00:09:55,382 --> 00:09:58,080 Lost his house. Some minor arrests for drunkenness. 210 00:09:58,124 --> 00:09:59,342 Then about eight years ago, 211 00:09:59,386 --> 00:10:00,909 he started to pull his life back together. 212 00:10:00,953 --> 00:10:03,042 Bought a water-softening franchise, 213 00:10:03,085 --> 00:10:06,088 remarried four years ago, has a two-and-a-half-year-old son, 214 00:10:06,132 --> 00:10:08,090 has six employees. 215 00:10:08,134 --> 00:10:11,093 I've dated guys whose bios read worse than this. 216 00:10:11,137 --> 00:10:13,095 Here's the thing. Bull keeps saying the literature 217 00:10:13,139 --> 00:10:16,316 is pretty clear about the fact that abuse tends to be cyclical. 218 00:10:16,359 --> 00:10:19,580 I mean, even though this Jim Cooper remarried... 219 00:10:19,624 --> 00:10:21,451 You think he's abusing his new wife and kid? 220 00:10:21,495 --> 00:10:24,063 Well, I certainly hope not, but he probably had 221 00:10:24,106 --> 00:10:27,022 other relationships before he met his current wife. 222 00:10:27,066 --> 00:10:29,416 And if we can establish a pattern of abuse, 223 00:10:29,459 --> 00:10:33,115 it would certainly bolster Elena's credibility. 224 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:35,901 Looks like I'm on a plane to sunny Florida. 225 00:10:35,944 --> 00:10:38,033 BENNY: Do you know what the problem with this case is? 226 00:10:38,077 --> 00:10:41,820 Our client did exactly what she's being charged with. 227 00:10:41,863 --> 00:10:45,127 I'm starting to think our only choice might be to embrace that. 228 00:10:45,171 --> 00:10:47,129 [scoffs] Why would we do that? 229 00:10:47,173 --> 00:10:49,915 To gain credibility with the judge and the jury. 230 00:10:49,958 --> 00:10:52,134 Make a play for a lenient sentence. 231 00:10:52,178 --> 00:10:54,702 Our play is to get her acquitted. 232 00:10:54,746 --> 00:10:57,226 If we have to ask for a lenient sentence, 233 00:10:57,270 --> 00:11:00,534 it means we've lost, and our client didn't hire us to lose. 234 00:11:00,577 --> 00:11:02,754 Yeah, but, Bull, there is no defense for this crime. 235 00:11:02,797 --> 00:11:05,060 It's not like we can claim that it was an accident 236 00:11:05,104 --> 00:11:06,975 or self-defense or even insanity. 237 00:11:07,019 --> 00:11:08,107 I mean, she's guilty. 238 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:09,891 She did it. 239 00:11:09,935 --> 00:11:11,937 She kidnapped her niece. 240 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:13,808 Well, that's where jury nullification comes in. 241 00:11:13,852 --> 00:11:15,897 We've got to convince this jury that the kidnapping law 242 00:11:15,941 --> 00:11:17,986 shouldn't apply to Elena's situation. 243 00:11:18,030 --> 00:11:21,511 She wasn't kidnapping her niece; she was rescuing her. 244 00:11:21,555 --> 00:11:23,513 Let the prosecution call it a kidnapping. 245 00:11:23,557 --> 00:11:25,515 We're gonna call it a rescue. 246 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,909 BULL: I need to warn you-- the first witness 247 00:11:27,953 --> 00:11:29,911 to take the stand today 248 00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:33,132 is going to be your former brother-in-law. 249 00:11:33,175 --> 00:11:34,699 Whatever you may think about him, 250 00:11:34,742 --> 00:11:37,919 we need you to understand the jury will almost certainly 251 00:11:37,963 --> 00:11:39,094 empathize with him. 252 00:11:39,138 --> 00:11:40,530 All they're gonna see 253 00:11:40,574 --> 00:11:43,620 is a young widower who lost his only child. 254 00:11:43,664 --> 00:11:46,319 Wow. The bastard sobered up long enough 255 00:11:46,362 --> 00:11:50,062 to fly three hours up the coast so he could lie under oath? 256 00:11:50,105 --> 00:11:53,065 According to the prosecutor, he's been sober for years. 257 00:11:53,108 --> 00:11:55,023 He's also remarried, owns his own business, 258 00:11:55,067 --> 00:11:56,938 has a two-year-old son, 259 00:11:56,982 --> 00:11:58,940 and very much wants his daughter back. 260 00:11:58,984 --> 00:12:01,116 Angela, 261 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,292 the reason we're telling you this... 262 00:12:03,336 --> 00:12:05,164 [sighs heavily] 263 00:12:05,207 --> 00:12:08,950 We need you to be careful not to react when he testifies. 264 00:12:08,994 --> 00:12:12,388 The jury is watching you, they're studying you. 265 00:12:12,432 --> 00:12:15,435 If they see anger, if they see contempt, 266 00:12:15,478 --> 00:12:18,743 they're gonna presume that you took this man's child 267 00:12:18,786 --> 00:12:20,745 out of spite. 268 00:12:20,788 --> 00:12:22,572 KNIGHT: So... 269 00:12:22,616 --> 00:12:24,966 you got to the hospital, 270 00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:26,228 walked into your daughter's room, 271 00:12:26,272 --> 00:12:28,056 and she just wasn't there? 272 00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:30,319 Exactly. And no one... no one knew where she was. 273 00:12:30,363 --> 00:12:32,582 So, of course, I went to the police. 274 00:12:32,626 --> 00:12:34,584 KNIGHT: And how long before you figured out 275 00:12:34,628 --> 00:12:36,369 that it was probably your sister-in-law 276 00:12:36,412 --> 00:12:37,979 who had taken her? 277 00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:41,156 Maybe a day. There was hospital video. 278 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,331 Uh... 279 00:12:42,375 --> 00:12:44,899 but the thing is, no one realized 280 00:12:44,943 --> 00:12:48,076 that she had taken her for good, 281 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,512 that she'd left the state. 282 00:12:49,556 --> 00:12:52,211 I kept thinking that she had taken her to the movies 283 00:12:52,254 --> 00:12:55,518 or to some theme park to... 284 00:12:55,562 --> 00:12:57,564 take her mind off of her mother. 285 00:12:57,607 --> 00:12:58,783 Mr. Cooper. 286 00:12:59,827 --> 00:13:02,917 Did you ever hit your first wife? 287 00:13:02,961 --> 00:13:04,484 Never. 288 00:13:04,527 --> 00:13:06,878 KNIGHT: Did you ever strike your daughter Sarah? 289 00:13:06,921 --> 00:13:08,357 JIM: Never. 290 00:13:08,401 --> 00:13:10,011 KNIGHT: Mr. Cooper, 291 00:13:10,055 --> 00:13:13,014 if the defendant is found guilty, 292 00:13:13,058 --> 00:13:15,016 are you prepared 293 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:18,019 to welcome your daughter back into your home? 294 00:13:18,063 --> 00:13:20,065 JIM: Prepared? I have been waiting 295 00:13:20,108 --> 00:13:21,588 12 years for this. 296 00:13:21,631 --> 00:13:24,417 I would do anything to have my child back. Yes. 297 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:26,027 [gallery murmuring] 298 00:13:26,071 --> 00:13:28,160 KNIGHT: No further questions, Your Honor. 299 00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:31,119 Mr. Colón. 300 00:13:31,163 --> 00:13:32,338 Yes, Your Honor. 301 00:13:32,381 --> 00:13:34,209 Thank you, Your Honor. 302 00:13:35,341 --> 00:13:36,908 [exhales quietly] 303 00:13:36,951 --> 00:13:40,128 Mr. Cooper... 304 00:13:40,172 --> 00:13:43,305 we really appreciate you coming all this way to... 305 00:13:43,349 --> 00:13:45,525 share your recollections. 306 00:13:45,568 --> 00:13:48,049 Recollections? I-I-I'm talking about... 307 00:13:48,093 --> 00:13:49,442 my family. 308 00:13:49,485 --> 00:13:52,445 I'm talking about my blood, my-my child. 309 00:13:52,488 --> 00:13:54,751 Yes, yes, of course, of course, but... 310 00:13:54,795 --> 00:13:57,537 [sighs] 12 years is a long time. 311 00:13:57,580 --> 00:13:59,713 A lot has changed. 312 00:13:59,756 --> 00:14:01,193 Right? 313 00:14:01,236 --> 00:14:04,326 You're remarried, you have a two-year-old at home... 314 00:14:04,370 --> 00:14:07,852 I never stopped looking. I... I never gave up. 315 00:14:07,895 --> 00:14:09,070 BENNY: If you say so, sir. 316 00:14:09,114 --> 00:14:11,290 Now... 317 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:14,946 you were unemployed at the time your daughter disappeared, 318 00:14:14,989 --> 00:14:18,471 weren't you?Yes, I-I had a tough time after my wife died. 319 00:14:18,514 --> 00:14:20,560 Completely understandable. 320 00:14:20,603 --> 00:14:22,910 Although, our records indicate 321 00:14:22,954 --> 00:14:24,912 that you were having a tough time 322 00:14:24,956 --> 00:14:27,262 even before your wife passed away, 323 00:14:27,306 --> 00:14:29,221 pretty much beginning with the birth 324 00:14:29,264 --> 00:14:31,092 of your first child, Sarah. 325 00:14:31,136 --> 00:14:32,441 Objection, Your Honor. 326 00:14:32,485 --> 00:14:35,444 Is counsel asking a question or testifying? 327 00:14:35,488 --> 00:14:38,273 Ask a question, Mr. Colón. 328 00:14:38,317 --> 00:14:41,320 Absolutely, Your Honor. My apologies, Your Honor. 329 00:14:41,363 --> 00:14:43,017 [clears throat]: Uh... 330 00:14:43,061 --> 00:14:47,195 approximately how many jobs would you say you held 331 00:14:47,239 --> 00:14:49,981 during the three-year period 332 00:14:50,024 --> 00:14:51,983 starting from the birth of your first child 333 00:14:52,026 --> 00:14:53,985 to the date that she disappeared? 334 00:14:54,028 --> 00:14:56,509 I don't know, I was still a young man, 335 00:14:56,552 --> 00:14:58,903 still trying to... find myself. 336 00:14:58,946 --> 00:14:59,947 Yeah, I get it. 337 00:14:59,991 --> 00:15:01,688 I'm just looking for a number, sir. 338 00:15:01,731 --> 00:15:03,472 Three, maybe. 339 00:15:03,516 --> 00:15:04,604 Three. 340 00:15:04,647 --> 00:15:06,214 Three jobs in three years. 341 00:15:06,258 --> 00:15:08,042 That's what you're testifying to? 342 00:15:08,086 --> 00:15:09,261 Could be four. 343 00:15:09,304 --> 00:15:10,436 Objection, Your Honor. Relevance? 344 00:15:10,479 --> 00:15:12,264 Your Honor, the defense 345 00:15:12,307 --> 00:15:14,919 is just trying to illustrate to the jury 346 00:15:14,962 --> 00:15:19,184 that my client has never denied that she did what she did; 347 00:15:19,227 --> 00:15:21,447 the issue in this trial is why she did it. 348 00:15:21,490 --> 00:15:23,492 And that's all we are attempting 349 00:15:23,536 --> 00:15:25,625 to illuminate, Your Honor. 350 00:15:25,668 --> 00:15:28,193 Objection overruled. 351 00:15:29,237 --> 00:15:30,369 You may proceed. 352 00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:33,024 Yeah. Now, I'll ask just one more time. 353 00:15:33,067 --> 00:15:36,375 How many jobs did you hold during the three-year period 354 00:15:36,418 --> 00:15:39,247 after your daughter's birth? 355 00:15:39,291 --> 00:15:41,119 Five. 356 00:15:41,162 --> 00:15:43,425 Five. Really? 357 00:15:43,469 --> 00:15:45,123 Huh. 358 00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:47,081 Our records show 11, sir. 359 00:15:47,125 --> 00:15:48,213 [gallery murmuring] 360 00:15:50,171 --> 00:15:52,217 Do you care to venture 361 00:15:52,260 --> 00:15:55,307 as to how many alcohol-related arrests during that period? 362 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:58,745 I imagine you have that number as well.Oh, I do, 363 00:15:58,788 --> 00:16:02,444 I do, and it's almost as high as the number of jobs lost. 364 00:16:04,316 --> 00:16:06,448 Again, beginning with the birth of your first child, 365 00:16:06,492 --> 00:16:08,885 you were also on periods of federal assistance, 366 00:16:08,929 --> 00:16:10,322 were you not? 367 00:16:10,365 --> 00:16:11,627 Yes. 368 00:16:11,671 --> 00:16:14,021 I was on assistance, but I'm not any longer. 369 00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:15,414 I haven't been for years. 370 00:16:15,457 --> 00:16:17,372 In fact, you remained on assistance 371 00:16:17,416 --> 00:16:20,419 for almost 18 months after your daughter's disappearance, right? 372 00:16:20,462 --> 00:16:21,637 Yeah. So?And isn't it also true 373 00:16:21,681 --> 00:16:23,422 that you never mentioned 374 00:16:23,465 --> 00:16:26,425 to your caseworker that your daughter was gone, 375 00:16:26,468 --> 00:16:28,296 so that you can continue to receive 376 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:30,385 that extra assistance the government pays 377 00:16:30,429 --> 00:16:32,518 to families with minor children? 378 00:16:32,561 --> 00:16:34,476 [gallery murmuring] 379 00:16:36,304 --> 00:16:37,566 How's the view? 380 00:16:37,610 --> 00:16:39,394 MARISSA: Nobody is switching sides yet, 381 00:16:39,438 --> 00:16:42,049 but I can see we definitely have 382 00:16:42,093 --> 00:16:44,008 their attention.BENNY: I'm sorry, 383 00:16:44,051 --> 00:16:45,444 I-I didn't hear what you said. 384 00:16:45,487 --> 00:16:47,054 Like I said, it was a difficult time. 385 00:16:47,098 --> 00:16:48,316 Ah. 386 00:16:49,665 --> 00:16:51,841 I made some mistakes. 387 00:16:51,885 --> 00:16:55,367 I didn't attend to certain things that needed attending to. 388 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:56,585 I won't deny that. 389 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:58,239 But I was a little busy 390 00:16:58,283 --> 00:17:01,634 putting up posters on telephone polls... 391 00:17:01,677 --> 00:17:04,245 spending my days looking for my child. 392 00:17:04,289 --> 00:17:06,465 BENNY: Be that as it may, 393 00:17:06,508 --> 00:17:09,468 you accepted federal funds under false pretense, 394 00:17:09,511 --> 00:17:10,904 didn't you?Objection. 395 00:17:10,947 --> 00:17:13,080 Asked and answered. 396 00:17:13,124 --> 00:17:14,125 Objection sustained. 397 00:17:14,168 --> 00:17:16,388 Ask another question. 398 00:17:16,431 --> 00:17:19,173 Actually, I have no further questions, Your Honor. 399 00:17:19,217 --> 00:17:20,827 [gallery murmuring] 400 00:17:36,625 --> 00:17:40,499 I'm worried. I haven't heard from Chloe since yesterday. 401 00:17:40,542 --> 00:17:42,501 That's funny, she missed her appointment 402 00:17:42,544 --> 00:17:45,373 with Chunk this morning to go over her testimony. 403 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:47,680 BAILIFF: All rise for the Honorable Judge Hopkins. 404 00:17:52,206 --> 00:17:53,990 KNIGHT: Ms. Lawson, 405 00:17:54,034 --> 00:17:57,037 thank you for making the trip up from Florida. 406 00:17:57,081 --> 00:17:59,300 Now, in 2008, 407 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:01,389 you were the Florida Child Services investigator 408 00:18:01,433 --> 00:18:03,652 assigned to Sarah Cooper's case. 409 00:18:03,696 --> 00:18:05,393 Isn't that correct?Yes. 410 00:18:05,437 --> 00:18:08,309 And apparently, you were called to the home 411 00:18:08,353 --> 00:18:10,137 a number of times. 412 00:18:10,181 --> 00:18:11,660 I was. 413 00:18:11,704 --> 00:18:13,009 Her aunt... 414 00:18:13,053 --> 00:18:14,576 [sighs] the defendant... 415 00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:16,883 seemed convinced that there was 416 00:18:16,926 --> 00:18:18,798 some sort of abuse going on in the household. 417 00:18:18,841 --> 00:18:20,800 So you investigated? 418 00:18:20,843 --> 00:18:21,844 I did. 419 00:18:21,888 --> 00:18:23,498 And what did you discover? 420 00:18:23,542 --> 00:18:27,198 I found some minor issues with hygiene. 421 00:18:27,241 --> 00:18:28,938 How do you mean?The kitchen sink 422 00:18:28,982 --> 00:18:30,505 had dirty dishes in it. 423 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:33,117 Sarah's clothes hadn't been washed in a while. 424 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,901 Pretty standard stuff. 425 00:18:34,944 --> 00:18:37,164 And frankly, to be expected in a household 426 00:18:37,208 --> 00:18:39,949 where the mother had just passed.And wasn't there also 427 00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:43,953 some concern about a bruise or bruises on her arms and legs? 428 00:18:43,997 --> 00:18:47,174 Again, concerns from the defendant. 429 00:18:47,218 --> 00:18:48,654 But when I saw the child, 430 00:18:48,697 --> 00:18:51,744 it was hard to determine exactly what we were looking at. 431 00:18:51,787 --> 00:18:54,834 Now, the law requires us to open an investigation 432 00:18:54,877 --> 00:18:57,880 24 hours after someone files a concern, 433 00:18:57,924 --> 00:18:59,578 and we did that. 434 00:18:59,621 --> 00:19:02,929 But it did take us a couple of days to get out there. 435 00:19:02,972 --> 00:19:05,627 And do you think that might have accounted for your inability 436 00:19:05,671 --> 00:19:09,631 to recognize these bruises or marks as evidence of abuse? 437 00:19:09,675 --> 00:19:11,416 Honestly, no. 438 00:19:11,459 --> 00:19:13,548 Generally speaking, in child welfare cases, 439 00:19:13,592 --> 00:19:16,247 you're almost always talking about injuries 440 00:19:16,290 --> 00:19:19,032 that are profound enough to still be in evidence 441 00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:21,687 72, even 96 hours later. 442 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:23,732 So you saw nothing that gave you cause 443 00:19:23,776 --> 00:19:25,647 to consider removing the child 444 00:19:25,691 --> 00:19:27,214 from the home?Oh, gosh, no. 445 00:19:27,258 --> 00:19:28,955 That is always a last resort. 446 00:19:28,998 --> 00:19:32,698 My feeling was that it would be best to continue 447 00:19:32,741 --> 00:19:35,570 to monitor the case, check back with the family bimonthly, 448 00:19:35,614 --> 00:19:37,268 so that's what we did. 449 00:19:37,311 --> 00:19:39,313 And when the child was brought to the hospital 450 00:19:39,357 --> 00:19:40,532 with a broken arm? 451 00:19:40,575 --> 00:19:42,447 We got there as quickly as we could. 452 00:19:42,490 --> 00:19:45,058 But unfortunately, when we arrived, 453 00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:48,670 the hospital had just discovered that she was missing. 454 00:19:48,714 --> 00:19:50,498 [gallery murmuring] 455 00:19:53,545 --> 00:19:55,503 No further questions, Your Honor. 456 00:19:56,591 --> 00:19:58,376 MARISSA: I'm sure I don't need 457 00:19:58,419 --> 00:19:59,899 to tell you we didn't win any friends 458 00:19:59,942 --> 00:20:01,901 with that testimony.BULL: Hey. 459 00:20:01,944 --> 00:20:04,904 The inning's not over until both sides have been up to bat. 460 00:20:04,947 --> 00:20:06,688 BENNY: Ms. Lawson, 461 00:20:06,732 --> 00:20:09,604 you have a... 462 00:20:09,648 --> 00:20:11,867 really difficult job, don't you? 463 00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:14,348 It's not the easiest. 464 00:20:14,392 --> 00:20:16,698 In fact, even over a decade ago, 465 00:20:16,742 --> 00:20:19,397 while you were in the midst of the Sarah Cooper case, 466 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,139 you were carrying double the recommended number of cases, 467 00:20:23,183 --> 00:20:24,184 isn't that right? 468 00:20:24,228 --> 00:20:25,707 Goes with the territory. 469 00:20:25,751 --> 00:20:27,143 At least in Florida. 470 00:20:27,187 --> 00:20:28,623 Now, Ms. Lawson, 471 00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:31,452 after Mrs. Cooper passed away 472 00:20:31,496 --> 00:20:34,499 and during the time Sarah was living with her father, 473 00:20:34,542 --> 00:20:36,544 were you aware of any children 474 00:20:36,588 --> 00:20:41,506 in the state of Florida that died as a result of abuse 475 00:20:41,549 --> 00:20:44,030 while being actively monitored by your agency? 476 00:20:45,074 --> 00:20:47,599 Sadly, I'm sure some did. 477 00:20:47,642 --> 00:20:49,905 I couldn't give you a number. 478 00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:51,690 We are talking about 12 years ago. 479 00:20:51,733 --> 00:20:53,126 Indeed. 480 00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:56,521 Would it surprise you to learn that 12 years ago, 481 00:20:56,564 --> 00:20:59,785 that number was actually 79? 482 00:20:59,828 --> 00:21:01,613 [gallery murmuring] 483 00:21:02,657 --> 00:21:05,660 79 children died 484 00:21:05,704 --> 00:21:09,490 as a result of abuse while being actively monitored 485 00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:12,450 by Florida Child Service investigators. 486 00:21:12,493 --> 00:21:14,321 Now, 487 00:21:14,365 --> 00:21:15,757 how long do you think the defendant 488 00:21:15,801 --> 00:21:17,106 should have waited? 489 00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:19,021 Objection. Calls for speculation. 490 00:21:19,065 --> 00:21:21,328 How long should the defendant have waited 491 00:21:21,372 --> 00:21:24,679 before her sister's child was number 80? 492 00:21:24,723 --> 00:21:26,333 [gallery murmuring] 493 00:21:26,377 --> 00:21:28,161 [gavel banging] 494 00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:29,728 HOPKINS: Mr. Colón. 495 00:21:29,771 --> 00:21:31,338 You are out of order. 496 00:21:31,382 --> 00:21:32,557 Now the jury will ignore 497 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,036 that last question. 498 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,734 I apologize, Your Honor. 499 00:21:35,777 --> 00:21:37,736 Actually, I have no further questions 500 00:21:37,779 --> 00:21:39,433 at this time. 501 00:21:39,477 --> 00:21:40,652 Does the prosecution have 502 00:21:40,695 --> 00:21:42,654 any further questions for this witness? 503 00:21:42,697 --> 00:21:44,569 Not at this time, Your Honor. 504 00:21:44,612 --> 00:21:46,048 Then the witness is excused. 505 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:50,575 Please call your next witness. 506 00:21:52,707 --> 00:21:55,667 The prosecution would like to call Sarah Cooper to the stand. 507 00:21:55,710 --> 00:21:57,886 [gallery murmuring] 508 00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:20,474 What was it like to find out 509 00:22:20,518 --> 00:22:22,650 your name wasn't your name, 510 00:22:22,694 --> 00:22:24,826 your mother wasn't your mother? 511 00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:26,872 It's hard to describe. 512 00:22:26,915 --> 00:22:29,440 KNIGHT: Were you surprised to learn that your biological father 513 00:22:29,483 --> 00:22:31,877 was alive, after being told 514 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,618 for so many years that he had died 515 00:22:33,661 --> 00:22:35,881 in Afghanistan? 516 00:22:35,924 --> 00:22:37,012 Of course. 517 00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:38,231 And what were you thinking, 518 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:41,713 when you sat here in this courtroom 519 00:22:41,756 --> 00:22:44,324 two days ago and watched him, 520 00:22:44,368 --> 00:22:45,673 very much alive, 521 00:22:45,717 --> 00:22:48,241 testify about how much he loved you and missed you? 522 00:22:49,851 --> 00:22:53,594 Just that I wanted to talk to him. 523 00:22:53,638 --> 00:22:55,248 Get to know him a little bit. 524 00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:57,859 KNIGHT: Now, 525 00:22:57,903 --> 00:23:01,472 let's talk about your aunt. 526 00:23:01,515 --> 00:23:04,518 After years of telling you that she was your mother, 527 00:23:04,562 --> 00:23:07,086 that your father had died overseas, 528 00:23:07,129 --> 00:23:09,175 what did she tell you about your father 529 00:23:09,218 --> 00:23:12,396 once she admitted that he was, in fact, alive? 530 00:23:12,439 --> 00:23:13,745 What did she offer as an excuse 531 00:23:13,788 --> 00:23:16,835 for taking you from him? 532 00:23:16,878 --> 00:23:19,620 For keeping you from him? 533 00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:22,318 She said that he hurt my real mother. 534 00:23:25,365 --> 00:23:27,323 She said that he hurt me. 535 00:23:27,367 --> 00:23:28,977 He broke my arm. 536 00:23:29,021 --> 00:23:30,239 Did you believe her? 537 00:23:30,283 --> 00:23:32,633 Objection. Calls for speculation. 538 00:23:32,677 --> 00:23:34,853 The attorney is badgering the witness. 539 00:23:34,896 --> 00:23:37,116 And I question the relevance 540 00:23:37,159 --> 00:23:38,596 of this whole line of questioning. 541 00:23:38,639 --> 00:23:40,511 KNIGHT: I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor. 542 00:23:40,554 --> 00:23:42,556 But if I may just ask one more thing. 543 00:23:43,601 --> 00:23:44,906 Sarah, 544 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:46,908 are you open to the possibility 545 00:23:46,952 --> 00:23:48,823 of a relationship with your father 546 00:23:48,867 --> 00:23:50,564 now that you know that he is alive? 547 00:23:51,826 --> 00:23:54,786 I guess so. 548 00:23:54,829 --> 00:23:56,788 He seems nice. 549 00:23:56,831 --> 00:23:58,442 And I'd... 550 00:23:58,485 --> 00:24:01,053 kinda like to know what it's like to have a father. 551 00:24:01,096 --> 00:24:02,750 [gallery murmuring] 552 00:24:02,794 --> 00:24:04,752 KNIGHT: No further questions, 553 00:24:04,796 --> 00:24:06,841 Your Honor. 554 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,932 Chloe... 555 00:24:10,976 --> 00:24:13,457 Is it okay if I call you Chloe? 556 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,937 Would you rather I address you as Sarah? 557 00:24:15,981 --> 00:24:17,765 Chloe's okay. 558 00:24:17,809 --> 00:24:19,854 I'm kinda used to Chloe. 559 00:24:19,898 --> 00:24:21,290 Chloe it is. 560 00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:24,685 Now, why do you think 561 00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:27,688 your mother made you believe your father was a war hero? 562 00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:28,907 I don't know. 563 00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:30,517 I guess so I'd respect him, 564 00:24:30,561 --> 00:24:32,214 feel good about him. 565 00:24:32,258 --> 00:24:33,694 And did she ever... 566 00:24:33,738 --> 00:24:35,783 say anything negative about him 567 00:24:35,827 --> 00:24:38,960 prior to the police charging her with kidnapping? 568 00:24:39,004 --> 00:24:40,962 No. Never. 569 00:24:41,006 --> 00:24:42,790 Actually, she always talked about him 570 00:24:42,834 --> 00:24:44,836 like he was pretty amazing. 571 00:24:44,879 --> 00:24:47,665 And would you say you've been well-cared-for 572 00:24:47,708 --> 00:24:50,276 these past 12 years? 573 00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:52,931 Well-clothed? Well-fed? 574 00:24:52,974 --> 00:24:54,759 Did you feel loved? 575 00:24:54,802 --> 00:24:56,151 I did. Yes. 576 00:24:56,195 --> 00:24:59,677 And didn't your mother put you in private school? 577 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,767 Encourage you to learn the violin? 578 00:25:02,810 --> 00:25:04,856 Teach you Spanish and French? 579 00:25:04,899 --> 00:25:06,292 You mean my aunt? 580 00:25:06,335 --> 00:25:08,033 Yes, 581 00:25:08,076 --> 00:25:09,948 she's been a wonderful parent to me. 582 00:25:09,991 --> 00:25:12,472 And you're old enough to understand that... 583 00:25:12,516 --> 00:25:14,605 [inhales] private school, 584 00:25:14,648 --> 00:25:16,694 tutors, music lessons-- 585 00:25:16,737 --> 00:25:18,870 all of that costs money. 586 00:25:18,913 --> 00:25:21,307 And who was it that was paying for it? 587 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:22,874 My aunt. 588 00:25:22,917 --> 00:25:24,440 And, lastly, 589 00:25:24,484 --> 00:25:28,706 have you ever known your aunt to be violent or aggressive? 590 00:25:28,749 --> 00:25:29,707 No. 591 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:31,230 Did she ever hit you? 592 00:25:31,273 --> 00:25:32,579 No. 593 00:25:32,623 --> 00:25:33,972 She ever curse at you?No. 594 00:25:34,015 --> 00:25:35,887 Raise her voice? 595 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:37,410 Once or twice. 596 00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:39,151 But I probably deserved it. 597 00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:42,589 Do you think she loves you? 598 00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:44,678 Uh, yes. 599 00:25:44,722 --> 00:25:46,941 [voice breaking]: I know she does. 600 00:25:46,985 --> 00:25:48,900 BENNY: Thank you. 601 00:25:48,943 --> 00:25:50,902 No further questions, Your Honor. 602 00:25:54,645 --> 00:25:56,081 Give me a burp.[cooing] 603 00:25:56,124 --> 00:25:58,083 I can't put you down till I get a burp. 604 00:25:58,126 --> 00:26:00,912 [passes gas, coos] 605 00:26:00,955 --> 00:26:03,088 Hey. 606 00:26:03,131 --> 00:26:05,177 That was the wrong end. 607 00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:06,352 [cooing] 608 00:26:06,395 --> 00:26:07,919 Come on. 609 00:26:07,962 --> 00:26:08,876 I need a burp. 610 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,399 Here we go. 611 00:26:10,443 --> 00:26:13,141 That's a girl. 612 00:26:13,185 --> 00:26:15,317 Give me a burp. 613 00:26:15,361 --> 00:26:17,363 I...[phone vibrating] 614 00:26:22,586 --> 00:26:24,022 [quietly]: Hello, Marissa. 615 00:26:24,065 --> 00:26:26,067 Am I catching you at a bad time? 616 00:26:26,111 --> 00:26:28,896 No, I'm just trying to wrap up the 10:00 p.m. feeding here 617 00:26:28,940 --> 00:26:30,419 in Astrid-land. 618 00:26:30,463 --> 00:26:31,812 Intake went well. 619 00:26:31,856 --> 00:26:33,901 We're just working on some outbound action. 620 00:26:33,945 --> 00:26:34,902 What's up? 621 00:26:34,946 --> 00:26:36,817 Danny just called from Florida. 622 00:26:36,861 --> 00:26:38,819 She's found two people that seem to corroborate 623 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,516 Elena's story about Jim. 624 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,301 One is a teacher 625 00:26:42,344 --> 00:26:44,477 at a preschool that Jim's two-year-old attended. 626 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,872 That is until she asked questions about bruises 627 00:26:47,915 --> 00:26:50,918 the little boy started showing up to school with.Shh... 628 00:26:50,962 --> 00:26:52,050 And she also found 629 00:26:52,093 --> 00:26:54,530 a dermatologist his new wife was seeing. 630 00:26:54,574 --> 00:26:56,707 Apparently, she has something to say as well. 631 00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:59,971 Both are willing to fly up to testify. 632 00:27:00,014 --> 00:27:01,581 Well, why don't you e-mail me 633 00:27:01,625 --> 00:27:02,974 all the pertinent details, 634 00:27:03,017 --> 00:27:04,584 and Benny and I will add 'em to the witness list 635 00:27:04,628 --> 00:27:05,977 tomorrow morning. 636 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:08,806 Did Danny find the wife yet? 637 00:27:08,849 --> 00:27:10,155 She thinks she might be away on business, 638 00:27:10,198 --> 00:27:11,809 but she's still looking.Okay. 639 00:27:11,852 --> 00:27:14,507 Ooh, I felt that. 640 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,727 I got to go. 641 00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:18,729 KNIGHT: Your Honor, these new witnesses 642 00:27:18,772 --> 00:27:19,904 aren't witnesses. 643 00:27:19,947 --> 00:27:20,905 BENNY: Excuse me, 644 00:27:20,948 --> 00:27:22,907 but the prosecution has rested. 645 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:25,170 It is now time for the defense 646 00:27:25,213 --> 00:27:27,259 to present ourdefense, 647 00:27:27,302 --> 00:27:29,478 which is what we're trying to do right now, Your Honor. 648 00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:32,394 Your Honor, not only have we had no time to prepare... 649 00:27:32,438 --> 00:27:34,005 Oh, take all the time you need. 650 00:27:34,048 --> 00:27:35,006 Your Honor... 651 00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:36,094 [sighs] 652 00:27:36,137 --> 00:27:37,835 The charges before the court 653 00:27:37,878 --> 00:27:39,967 are extremely serious...Which is why 654 00:27:40,011 --> 00:27:43,144 these witnesses are so important, Your Honor. 655 00:27:43,188 --> 00:27:47,061 They directly contradict Jim Cooper's testimony. 656 00:27:47,105 --> 00:27:48,367 He said under oath 657 00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,978 that he has never physically abused anyone. 658 00:27:51,022 --> 00:27:52,850 Well, we have records 659 00:27:52,893 --> 00:27:54,852 from Jim Cooper's two-year-old son's 660 00:27:54,895 --> 00:27:57,202 former preschool teacher, 661 00:27:57,245 --> 00:27:59,552 who noticed fresh bruises on the boy. 662 00:27:59,595 --> 00:28:02,120 And when she confronted him about the bruises, 663 00:28:02,163 --> 00:28:05,036 the teacher said that he abruptly pulled the kid 664 00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:06,080 from the school. 665 00:28:06,124 --> 00:28:07,081 In other words, 666 00:28:07,125 --> 00:28:08,953 she witnessed nothing. 667 00:28:08,996 --> 00:28:10,128 And, secondly, 668 00:28:10,171 --> 00:28:13,305 the current Mrs. Cooper's dermatologist 669 00:28:13,348 --> 00:28:16,656 treated her for a burn on her forearm, 670 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,876 which she suspected was from a cigarette, 671 00:28:18,919 --> 00:28:20,704 less than four weeks ago. 672 00:28:20,747 --> 00:28:22,183 Again, this is circumstantial evidence 673 00:28:22,227 --> 00:28:24,751 and is irrelevant to the kidnapping charges. 674 00:28:24,795 --> 00:28:26,318 [Hopkins clears throat] 675 00:28:28,102 --> 00:28:31,105 AUSA Knight makes a valid point. 676 00:28:31,149 --> 00:28:32,541 The real question 677 00:28:32,585 --> 00:28:35,457 is did the witnesses actually see 678 00:28:35,501 --> 00:28:37,764 Mr. Cooper inflict these injuries. 679 00:28:37,808 --> 00:28:39,331 Judge Hopkins, we all know it's unlikely 680 00:28:39,374 --> 00:28:41,899 that Mr. Cooper would beat his two-year-old son 681 00:28:41,942 --> 00:28:43,335 in front of a crowd of onlookers 682 00:28:43,378 --> 00:28:44,902 or burn his wife in public. 683 00:28:44,945 --> 00:28:46,817 BENNY: Your Honor, 684 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:49,515 the jury should be allowed to hear the testimony, 685 00:28:49,558 --> 00:28:51,996 review the documents, draw their own inferences. 686 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,911 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm-I'm sorry. 687 00:28:53,954 --> 00:28:55,129 I don't agree. 688 00:28:55,173 --> 00:28:57,044 Mr. Cooper is not 689 00:28:57,088 --> 00:28:58,219 on trial here. 690 00:28:58,263 --> 00:29:00,004 And the probative value 691 00:29:00,047 --> 00:29:03,921 of what sounds like speculation and-and hearsay 692 00:29:03,964 --> 00:29:07,054 is outweighed by the prejudicial effect it's certain to have. 693 00:29:07,098 --> 00:29:08,447 And none of it is relevant 694 00:29:08,490 --> 00:29:11,624 as to whether or not your client kidnapped his child, 695 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:15,149 which is the only issue the jury is here to resolve. 696 00:29:15,193 --> 00:29:18,022 Now, I have to agree with prosecution. 697 00:29:18,065 --> 00:29:20,024 Unless these people 698 00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:22,722 actually witnessed Mr. Cooper hurt someone, 699 00:29:22,766 --> 00:29:25,551 their testimony is irrelevant. 700 00:29:25,594 --> 00:29:27,814 Do you have any other witnesses you want to present? 701 00:29:27,858 --> 00:29:29,120 With Your Honor's permission, 702 00:29:29,163 --> 00:29:31,862 we would like to ask for a one-day continuance. 703 00:29:31,905 --> 00:29:35,735 I'd love to confer with my client on next steps. 704 00:29:35,779 --> 00:29:38,390 It's like I told you. 705 00:29:38,433 --> 00:29:40,914 Bottom line is she did it. 706 00:29:40,958 --> 00:29:43,525 She took this man's child. 707 00:29:43,569 --> 00:29:45,310 Kind of impossible 708 00:29:45,353 --> 00:29:48,008 to mount a defense against something that's indisputable. 709 00:29:55,059 --> 00:29:56,103 I just heard. 710 00:29:56,147 --> 00:29:57,801 No court today. 711 00:29:57,844 --> 00:30:00,455 They want me to change, take me back to prison. 712 00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:02,544 Is everything all right? 713 00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:04,982 We need to talk. 714 00:30:05,025 --> 00:30:06,810 We can 715 00:30:06,853 --> 00:30:07,941 press forward. 716 00:30:07,985 --> 00:30:09,682 Mr. Colón could put you on the stand. 717 00:30:09,725 --> 00:30:12,163 You're really the only witness we have. 718 00:30:12,206 --> 00:30:13,817 Unfortunately, 719 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:16,080 you're not the witness we need. 720 00:30:17,124 --> 00:30:18,517 What do you mean? 721 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,823 We need someone 722 00:30:19,866 --> 00:30:21,476 who can tell the jury under oath 723 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,176 that they've actually seen Mr. Cooper be physically abusive. 724 00:30:25,219 --> 00:30:28,005 Preferably multiple times. 725 00:30:28,048 --> 00:30:29,267 It's the only thing 726 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:32,183 that's gonna make the jury second-guess 727 00:30:32,226 --> 00:30:33,793 the A.D.A.'s assertion 728 00:30:33,837 --> 00:30:35,621 that you're nothing more than a kidnapper. 729 00:30:35,664 --> 00:30:37,884 With your permission, what I'd like to do 730 00:30:37,928 --> 00:30:40,974 is go to the A.D.A. and see if we can't broker 731 00:30:41,018 --> 00:30:42,236 some kind of a deal. 732 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,108 She's not a stupid person. 733 00:30:44,151 --> 00:30:46,545 She knows that this hearsay 734 00:30:46,588 --> 00:30:48,939 and circumstantial evidence may not hold up in court, 735 00:30:48,982 --> 00:30:52,246 but I'm willing to bet she knows there's a whiff of truth to it. 736 00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:54,422 Maybe we can use that 737 00:30:54,466 --> 00:30:57,599 to wrestle some favorable terms from her. 738 00:30:57,643 --> 00:31:00,341 Would I still have to go to prison? 739 00:31:01,386 --> 00:31:03,954 Yes. 740 00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:06,739 I'm hoping we can keep it to less than five years, 741 00:31:06,782 --> 00:31:09,220 as opposed to the ten to 20 you're looking at now. 742 00:31:10,264 --> 00:31:12,527 Oh, my God. 743 00:31:15,095 --> 00:31:17,097 What about Chloe? 744 00:31:18,142 --> 00:31:19,143 She'd be 745 00:31:19,186 --> 00:31:20,709 returned back to her father. 746 00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:22,755 [sobs] 747 00:31:23,843 --> 00:31:25,932 She's 15. 748 00:31:25,976 --> 00:31:27,194 If he starts abusing her, 749 00:31:27,238 --> 00:31:29,196 it will not stay secret long. 750 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,719 And for what it's worth, 751 00:31:30,763 --> 00:31:33,897 your ex-brother-in-law is on notice. 752 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,246 He knows 753 00:31:35,289 --> 00:31:37,248 we're all watching. 754 00:31:37,291 --> 00:31:40,207 And would I ever get to see her again? 755 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:43,732 Do I get to see Chloe? 756 00:31:43,776 --> 00:31:45,343 [takes deep breath] 757 00:31:45,386 --> 00:31:48,694 You'd be a convicted kidnapper, so... 758 00:31:48,737 --> 00:31:50,261 no, I don't think 759 00:31:50,304 --> 00:31:52,132 that's at all likely. 760 00:31:52,176 --> 00:31:53,525 [sobbing] 761 00:32:06,016 --> 00:32:08,714 [seabirds squawking][knocking] 762 00:32:08,757 --> 00:32:11,108 Mrs. Cooper? 763 00:32:11,151 --> 00:32:13,414 My name is Danny James. I'm an investigator 764 00:32:13,458 --> 00:32:16,026 working on a court case involving your husband 765 00:32:16,069 --> 00:32:18,942 and his daughter from a previous marriage. 766 00:32:18,985 --> 00:32:21,379 I'm... kind of on vacation with my son. 767 00:32:21,422 --> 00:32:23,903 I don't really want to get involved. 768 00:32:23,947 --> 00:32:25,949 I promise, it'll be two minutes. 769 00:32:28,386 --> 00:32:30,736 Mrs. Cooper, don't make me get a subpoena. 770 00:32:31,737 --> 00:32:33,739 [door unlocking] 771 00:32:38,265 --> 00:32:40,876 Can we make this fast? 772 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,837 I-I promised my little boy I would take him to a water park. 773 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,447 Sure. And I'm sorry. 774 00:32:46,491 --> 00:32:49,450 Uh, look, we have reason to believe that your husband 775 00:32:49,494 --> 00:32:51,844 may have been physically abusive to your little boy. 776 00:32:51,887 --> 00:32:54,238 And to you. 777 00:32:54,281 --> 00:32:55,804 [chuckles]: Seriously? 778 00:32:55,848 --> 00:32:58,024 That's what you want to talk to me about? 779 00:32:58,068 --> 00:33:00,026 Where did you hear that? 780 00:33:00,070 --> 00:33:01,985 That's crazy. 781 00:33:02,768 --> 00:33:04,335 Are you married? 782 00:33:04,378 --> 00:33:05,858 You ever been married? 783 00:33:05,901 --> 00:33:08,121 No.Well, I've only been at it 784 00:33:08,165 --> 00:33:10,863 for a few years, but let me tell you two things 785 00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:12,604 I know for sure. 786 00:33:12,647 --> 00:33:15,128 One, marriage, 787 00:33:15,172 --> 00:33:19,045 like any deal, is filled with lots of good 788 00:33:19,089 --> 00:33:21,134 and also some bad. 789 00:33:21,178 --> 00:33:22,962 My boy. 790 00:33:23,006 --> 00:33:24,355 I love my boy. 791 00:33:24,398 --> 00:33:26,574 And that's one of the goods, one of the greats. 792 00:33:26,618 --> 00:33:29,055 And I don't worry much about... 793 00:33:29,099 --> 00:33:32,493 bills anymore, and you can't hate that, so... 794 00:33:32,537 --> 00:33:34,191 if my husband comes home sometimes 795 00:33:34,234 --> 00:33:37,237 and he's not in a stellar mood, then...I'm not just talking 796 00:33:37,281 --> 00:33:39,848 about someone in a bad mood, Mrs. Cooper.And the other thing-- 797 00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:42,068 and you ought to know this-- 798 00:33:42,112 --> 00:33:45,550 uh, you can't force me to testify against my own husband. 799 00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:48,031 You can't. 800 00:33:49,293 --> 00:33:52,252 Plus, I don't have anything to testify to. 801 00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:54,950 So are we done here? 802 00:33:54,994 --> 00:33:57,997 I can help you. I can help both of you. 803 00:33:59,042 --> 00:34:00,434 By how? 804 00:34:00,478 --> 00:34:03,002 By-by destroying my family? 805 00:34:03,046 --> 00:34:05,352 And anyway, like I said... 806 00:34:05,396 --> 00:34:08,877 isn't what happens between a husband and a wife private? 807 00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:12,359 Conversations between spouses are privileged, but... 808 00:34:12,403 --> 00:34:15,797 not when there are allegations of abuse. 809 00:34:15,841 --> 00:34:17,582 Okay, I think you need to go now. 810 00:34:17,625 --> 00:34:19,410 You wouldn't have to look at him in court. 811 00:34:19,453 --> 00:34:22,021 We could have him sequestered. 812 00:34:22,065 --> 00:34:24,458 And after the trial, my boss and I, we would help you 813 00:34:24,502 --> 00:34:26,895 and your little son back on your feet. 814 00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:28,854 And in a safe place, I promise. 815 00:34:28,897 --> 00:34:30,986 That is... [takes deep breath] 816 00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:33,076 if you're willing to testify. 817 00:34:34,077 --> 00:34:35,426 That is... 818 00:34:35,469 --> 00:34:37,297 if you're willing to admit 819 00:34:37,341 --> 00:34:40,257 you actually have something to testify to. 820 00:34:42,172 --> 00:34:43,869 NOAH: Mommy? 821 00:34:43,912 --> 00:34:45,827 Oh. 822 00:34:45,871 --> 00:34:47,525 Noah. 823 00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:51,050 Say hello to the nice lady. 824 00:34:59,537 --> 00:35:00,973 [sighs] 825 00:35:04,281 --> 00:35:06,544 Let me call my mother. 826 00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:09,068 See if she can take my baby. 827 00:35:10,852 --> 00:35:12,811 BENNY: Mrs. Cooper, 828 00:35:12,854 --> 00:35:16,162 I know it's uncomfortable you being here. 829 00:35:16,206 --> 00:35:19,861 We've sequestered your husband as per your request, 830 00:35:19,905 --> 00:35:22,125 and, speaking for the defense, 831 00:35:22,168 --> 00:35:24,127 we really appreciate you making the trip. 832 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:26,781 It's okay.Now, 833 00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:30,916 when your husband told you he needed to come to New York 834 00:35:30,959 --> 00:35:32,570 for a court date, 835 00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:35,007 did he explain the nature of the trial? 836 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:37,183 Uh, no, not really. 837 00:35:37,227 --> 00:35:40,186 He said it was a business thing. 838 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:43,058 So you and your two-year-old son 839 00:35:43,102 --> 00:35:45,452 just decided to take a little road trip? 840 00:35:45,496 --> 00:35:47,280 Yes. 841 00:35:47,324 --> 00:35:49,891 I just... 842 00:35:49,935 --> 00:35:53,025 with Jim away... 843 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:55,201 I just needed to do some thinking. 844 00:35:55,245 --> 00:35:56,420 Well... 845 00:35:56,463 --> 00:36:00,119 I'm sorry to have interrupted your trip. 846 00:36:00,163 --> 00:36:02,382 So let me get right into it. 847 00:36:03,905 --> 00:36:05,385 [whispers]: Here goes nothing. 848 00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:07,474 BENNY: Mrs. Cooper, 849 00:36:07,518 --> 00:36:10,129 have you ever been afraid of your husband? 850 00:36:10,173 --> 00:36:12,479 Yes. 851 00:36:12,523 --> 00:36:15,961 And can you please explain to the jury why? 852 00:36:16,004 --> 00:36:18,529 Uh, he yells at me sometimes. 853 00:36:19,399 --> 00:36:21,488 Like when our two-year-old cries. 854 00:36:21,532 --> 00:36:25,797 And he'll, uh, slam doors... 855 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,104 break things when something upsets him. 856 00:36:29,148 --> 00:36:30,715 And in the past, 857 00:36:30,758 --> 00:36:33,587 when something upset him, has he ever gotten physical 858 00:36:33,631 --> 00:36:35,285 with you or Noah? 859 00:36:37,852 --> 00:36:39,811 This was from a week ago. 860 00:36:39,854 --> 00:36:42,335 [gallery murmuring] 861 00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:48,254 BENNY: Let the record reflect 862 00:36:48,298 --> 00:36:50,474 that the witness is talking 863 00:36:50,517 --> 00:36:54,521 about the bruising and swelling on the right side of her face. 864 00:36:56,175 --> 00:36:59,700 And can you please explain the events surrounding the injury? 865 00:36:59,744 --> 00:37:03,748 I told Jim I wanted to go back to school, 866 00:37:03,791 --> 00:37:07,230 and he started screaming about who would care for Noah. 867 00:37:07,273 --> 00:37:09,275 And then what happened? 868 00:37:09,319 --> 00:37:12,757 I-I told him... that we would figure it out. 869 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,063 A lot of people figure it out. 870 00:37:15,107 --> 00:37:17,152 And how did he respond?He... 871 00:37:17,196 --> 00:37:20,025 balled up his fist and... 872 00:37:22,462 --> 00:37:24,029 I lost two teeth. 873 00:37:24,072 --> 00:37:26,031 [gallery murmuring] 874 00:37:29,426 --> 00:37:32,690 BENNY: Now, let's talk about your two-year-old son. 875 00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:36,215 He has his arm in a sling, doesn't he? 876 00:37:36,259 --> 00:37:38,043 He does. 877 00:37:38,086 --> 00:37:39,044 And... 878 00:37:39,087 --> 00:37:40,741 do you know what happened to him? 879 00:37:40,785 --> 00:37:43,309 Yes, and no. 880 00:37:43,353 --> 00:37:46,094 I had to work on a Saturday, 881 00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:48,619 and Jim stayed home with him. 882 00:37:48,662 --> 00:37:50,708 He wasn't happy about it. 883 00:37:51,926 --> 00:37:54,233 And when I got home eight hours later, 884 00:37:54,277 --> 00:37:56,844 they had already been to the emergency room and back. 885 00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:01,849 Apparently, Noah's arm got pulled out of its socket. 886 00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:03,155 [gallery murmuring] 887 00:38:04,722 --> 00:38:07,333 Jim said they were just horsing around. 888 00:38:12,686 --> 00:38:13,644 What did Noah say? 889 00:38:13,687 --> 00:38:14,819 Objection. Hearsay. 890 00:38:14,862 --> 00:38:16,211 Your Honor, 891 00:38:16,255 --> 00:38:17,865 the child is two years old. 892 00:38:17,909 --> 00:38:19,084 Would you really have me 893 00:38:19,127 --> 00:38:20,520 call him here 894 00:38:20,564 --> 00:38:23,175 to testify?[sighs]: I'll allow it. 895 00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:26,178 Witness will answer the question. 896 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:28,136 No, he-he didn't really say anything. 897 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:31,183 He's only two, and he's very shy. 898 00:38:33,054 --> 00:38:35,013 But every time Jim comes near him, 899 00:38:35,056 --> 00:38:37,102 he hides behind my leg.Objection. 900 00:38:37,145 --> 00:38:39,191 Your Honor, this is simply speculation. 901 00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,062 It proves nothing. 902 00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:43,761 Objection sustained. The jury will disregard 903 00:38:43,804 --> 00:38:46,024 the witness's testimony with respect 904 00:38:46,067 --> 00:38:47,068 to her two-year-old child. 905 00:38:47,112 --> 00:38:49,070 Isn't it true your son had 906 00:38:49,114 --> 00:38:52,683 a preschool teacher that expressed concern 907 00:38:52,726 --> 00:38:55,599 about visible bruising on the boy's body 908 00:38:55,642 --> 00:38:57,383 and brought it to your husband's attention, 909 00:38:57,427 --> 00:39:02,040 who responded by withdrawing your child from the school? 910 00:39:02,083 --> 00:39:04,085 Way to slip one in, Benny.KNIGHT: Your Honor, 911 00:39:04,129 --> 00:39:06,087 objection. This is just more hearsay 912 00:39:06,131 --> 00:39:08,176 masquerading as testimony. 913 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:10,135 Objection sustained. Counselor, 914 00:39:10,178 --> 00:39:12,355 I know what you're doing. 915 00:39:12,398 --> 00:39:13,443 I don't like it. 916 00:39:13,486 --> 00:39:15,270 Now, I need you to ask questions 917 00:39:15,314 --> 00:39:17,098 that pertain only to events 918 00:39:17,142 --> 00:39:18,709 that the witness would have seen for herself. 919 00:39:18,752 --> 00:39:20,319 BENNY: Yes, Your Honor. 920 00:39:20,363 --> 00:39:21,842 [whispers]: Come on. 921 00:39:21,886 --> 00:39:24,149 They got to be reacting to this. 922 00:39:24,192 --> 00:39:28,109 Indeed they are. You just flipped two. 923 00:39:31,243 --> 00:39:34,333 Mrs. Cooper... 924 00:39:34,377 --> 00:39:37,336 were there any other incidents of physical violence 925 00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:40,905 that either involved you or to which... 926 00:39:40,948 --> 00:39:42,646 you were a direct witness? 927 00:39:42,689 --> 00:39:45,431 He, uh... 928 00:39:45,475 --> 00:39:47,912 burned me. 929 00:39:48,956 --> 00:39:51,306 Here and here. 930 00:39:52,351 --> 00:39:53,613 With cigarettes. 931 00:39:53,657 --> 00:39:56,268 He... 932 00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:58,575 bit my ear. 933 00:39:58,618 --> 00:40:01,142 I had to get stitches. 934 00:40:01,186 --> 00:40:03,057 Anything else? 935 00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:06,409 He kicked me once. 936 00:40:06,452 --> 00:40:08,193 Kicked you where, 937 00:40:08,236 --> 00:40:10,151 Mrs. Cooper? 938 00:40:10,195 --> 00:40:12,458 Between my legs. 939 00:40:12,502 --> 00:40:14,199 [gallery murmuring] 940 00:40:14,242 --> 00:40:16,288 BENNY: And you were able 941 00:40:16,331 --> 00:40:19,726 to document each of these incidents? 942 00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:21,162 In each case, 943 00:40:21,206 --> 00:40:23,513 you went and sought medical attention afterwards? 944 00:40:23,556 --> 00:40:25,166 Yes. 945 00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:27,299 Although, I always made up a story 946 00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:30,215 as to how I got the injury. 947 00:40:30,258 --> 00:40:32,435 Thank you. 948 00:40:32,478 --> 00:40:34,437 No further questions, Your Honor. 949 00:40:40,617 --> 00:40:43,533 So, you admit you lied about the details 950 00:40:43,576 --> 00:40:46,318 when you sought medical help for these... 951 00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:48,276 so-called injuries? 952 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,365 Yes. I was embarrassed. 953 00:40:50,409 --> 00:40:52,455 So tell me, Mrs. Cooper, 954 00:40:52,498 --> 00:40:55,545 now that we've established that you're an admitted liar, 955 00:40:55,588 --> 00:40:59,244 why should we believe anything else you say? 956 00:40:59,287 --> 00:41:00,724 For instance, 957 00:41:00,767 --> 00:41:03,770 how do we know these injures aren't self-inflicted? 958 00:41:05,424 --> 00:41:06,338 Well, I... 959 00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:08,906 I wouldn't burn my own arm... 960 00:41:08,949 --> 00:41:10,908 ma'am. 961 00:41:10,951 --> 00:41:13,867 And I'm not even sure how I would bite my own ear. 962 00:41:13,911 --> 00:41:15,521 Not to mention 963 00:41:15,565 --> 00:41:17,349 kick myself... 964 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:20,352 where I indicated. 965 00:41:36,803 --> 00:41:38,892 Wait, where is Mr. Colón? 966 00:41:38,936 --> 00:41:40,503 Well, he stayed behind 967 00:41:40,546 --> 00:41:42,722 to talk to your ex-brother-in-law's new wife. 968 00:41:42,766 --> 00:41:44,724 She wanted to file charges against him, 969 00:41:44,768 --> 00:41:46,987 and Benny's offered to put her in touch 970 00:41:47,031 --> 00:41:49,033 with the D.A. in Florida. 971 00:41:52,602 --> 00:41:54,517 How do I do this? 972 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,909 Where do I start? 973 00:41:55,953 --> 00:41:59,217 Am I Elena, or do I go back to being Angela? 974 00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:02,263 What do people call me? What do I call myself? 975 00:42:03,264 --> 00:42:04,570 CHLOE: Mom! 976 00:42:04,614 --> 00:42:06,572 ♪ 977 00:42:08,356 --> 00:42:10,358 Captioning sponsored by CBS 978 00:42:11,142 --> 00:42:13,144 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 69430

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