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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,491 --> 00:00:10,493 ♪ 2 00:00:28,685 --> 00:00:31,471 Lucas. Looks like the word's out. 3 00:00:31,514 --> 00:00:33,473 You got the best game in town. 4 00:00:33,516 --> 00:00:36,650 Hope you've got room for me at the table tonight. 5 00:00:36,693 --> 00:00:38,826 I'm sorry, Viv. Not tonight. 6 00:00:39,870 --> 00:00:41,829 Hey. Lucas, come on. 7 00:00:41,872 --> 00:00:43,961 Have I ever left you high and dry before? 8 00:00:44,005 --> 00:00:45,746 Well, word is you left Asher Ray 9 00:00:45,789 --> 00:00:47,269 very high and dry. 10 00:00:47,313 --> 00:00:48,792 And I don't have any interest 11 00:00:48,836 --> 00:00:52,057 in getting in line behind that guy when you lose my money. 12 00:00:55,321 --> 00:00:57,018 MAN: I don't like chamomile. 13 00:00:57,062 --> 00:00:58,889 How many times do I have to tell you? 14 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:00,543 I want Earl Grey. 15 00:01:00,587 --> 00:01:01,849 WOMAN: But Earl Grey 16 00:01:01,892 --> 00:01:03,242 has caffeine in it. 17 00:01:03,285 --> 00:01:05,635 You will never be able to get to sleep. 18 00:01:05,679 --> 00:01:06,941 Here. 19 00:01:06,984 --> 00:01:08,986 Just try this. I put some honey in it for you. 20 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:11,337 I told you 21 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:13,469 I don't want it! 22 00:01:13,513 --> 00:01:16,081 Idiot.All right, Dad, that's enough. 23 00:01:16,124 --> 00:01:18,344 Ha. You're home early. 24 00:01:18,387 --> 00:01:21,086 Couldn't get anyone to buy you a drink? 25 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:23,218 VIVIAN: I've got this. 26 00:01:23,262 --> 00:01:25,177 Why don't you take off a little early? 27 00:01:25,220 --> 00:01:26,395 You sure? 28 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:27,614 Oh, that's great. 29 00:01:27,657 --> 00:01:29,616 Reward her incompetence 30 00:01:29,659 --> 00:01:32,358 by sending her home halfway through her shift. 31 00:01:32,401 --> 00:01:34,011 I'm sure. 32 00:01:34,055 --> 00:01:36,057 Oh, that's right, 33 00:01:36,101 --> 00:01:37,624 I forgot. Money-- 34 00:01:37,667 --> 00:01:40,017 it's just a game to you. 35 00:01:40,061 --> 00:01:42,672 Out all hours at poker tables 36 00:01:42,716 --> 00:01:44,152 like some lowlife. 37 00:01:45,197 --> 00:01:48,156 Well, I'm sorry I disappointed you so. 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,332 I'll be right back with some Earl Grey, Dad. 39 00:01:50,376 --> 00:01:52,073 Just the way you like it. 40 00:01:57,818 --> 00:02:00,168 You want your tea and pills yet? 41 00:02:00,212 --> 00:02:01,952 What's your rush? 42 00:02:01,996 --> 00:02:04,172 Give me a little time to wake up. 43 00:02:04,216 --> 00:02:06,305 I'm not trying to rush you, Dad. 44 00:02:06,348 --> 00:02:08,829 I just want to go upstairs and take a shower. 45 00:02:08,872 --> 00:02:10,918 I just want to be sure you're okay out here. 46 00:02:10,961 --> 00:02:13,790 Why shouldn't I be okay? I spend every morning out here. 47 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:15,270 I know, Dad. 48 00:02:15,314 --> 00:02:18,099 But it's Cecilia's day off and I'm all alone 49 00:02:18,143 --> 00:02:20,710 and I won't be able to hear if you need anything. 50 00:02:20,754 --> 00:02:24,192 The only thing I need is for you to leave me alone! 51 00:02:24,236 --> 00:02:25,759 Okay, Dad. 52 00:02:27,195 --> 00:02:29,589 I'll be back in just a bit. 53 00:02:42,906 --> 00:02:44,952 You ready to come back in, Dad? 54 00:02:48,303 --> 00:02:51,132 You got your fresh air for the day? 55 00:02:54,788 --> 00:02:56,790 Oh, how'd that get there? 56 00:03:11,196 --> 00:03:13,285 Dad? 57 00:03:24,252 --> 00:03:26,211 BENNY: Patricide. 58 00:03:26,254 --> 00:03:28,213 Killing a parent. 59 00:03:28,256 --> 00:03:31,216 Ooh, that is a nasty thing to be accused of. 60 00:03:31,259 --> 00:03:33,130 Especially if you didn't do it. 61 00:03:33,174 --> 00:03:35,002 Mm. 62 00:03:35,045 --> 00:03:37,004 So, who's Vivian Cahill? 63 00:03:37,047 --> 00:03:39,006 You've got the file. 64 00:03:39,049 --> 00:03:41,095 No, I mean, who is she to you? 65 00:03:41,138 --> 00:03:43,924 Old friend. 66 00:03:43,967 --> 00:03:47,319 Used to play the same poker game years ago. 67 00:03:47,362 --> 00:03:48,668 Mm. 68 00:03:48,711 --> 00:03:50,322 [laughs softly] Vivian. 69 00:03:50,365 --> 00:03:53,107 She was just out of college and she could wipe the floor with me 70 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:55,109 and anyone else in the room. 71 00:03:55,152 --> 00:03:56,197 And then? 72 00:03:56,241 --> 00:03:59,200 And then I stopped playing cards. 73 00:03:59,244 --> 00:04:00,810 According to the police report, 74 00:04:00,854 --> 00:04:03,813 your father died of blunt force trauma to the head. 75 00:04:03,857 --> 00:04:07,904 And the medical examiner has matched the wound to blood 76 00:04:07,948 --> 00:04:10,777 on a fireplace poker found at the scene. 77 00:04:10,820 --> 00:04:14,302 The police and paramedics who responded to your call 78 00:04:14,346 --> 00:04:17,218 said that you were the only one home with him 79 00:04:17,262 --> 00:04:18,654 at the time. 80 00:04:18,698 --> 00:04:21,788 I was upstairs, at the back of the house, showering. 81 00:04:21,831 --> 00:04:24,007 Blow-drying my hair. Anyone could've come in. 82 00:04:25,357 --> 00:04:27,750 Well, a-according to the reports, 83 00:04:27,794 --> 00:04:31,014 there were no signs of forced entry. 84 00:04:33,190 --> 00:04:35,323 My dad liked to sit alone out there 85 00:04:35,367 --> 00:04:37,107 for about an hour every morning. 86 00:04:37,151 --> 00:04:40,894 Last year he had a series of strokes. 87 00:04:40,937 --> 00:04:43,113 First one was in the summer. 88 00:04:43,157 --> 00:04:46,682 Since then he's pretty much always yelling at someone. 89 00:04:46,726 --> 00:04:48,467 Mostly, yours truly. 90 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:51,557 Hmm. And you were living with your father? 91 00:04:53,036 --> 00:04:55,038 His health was declining pretty quickly, 92 00:04:55,082 --> 00:04:58,825 so I moved home to help him. 93 00:04:58,868 --> 00:05:00,827 Spend time with him. 94 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:02,481 How was that going? 95 00:05:03,525 --> 00:05:05,701 Not great. [laughs softly] 96 00:05:05,745 --> 00:05:07,312 Dad's always had a temper, 97 00:05:07,355 --> 00:05:10,532 and he could be pretty tough on me. 98 00:05:10,576 --> 00:05:12,795 Did your dad know about your gambling? 99 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:15,363 Oh, yes. 100 00:05:15,407 --> 00:05:18,235 Not a fan. 101 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,195 The occasional gentleman's game is one thing, 102 00:05:21,238 --> 00:05:23,371 but for his only daughter 103 00:05:23,415 --> 00:05:25,373 to be a lowlife, 104 00:05:25,417 --> 00:05:28,376 compulsive, degenerate gambler... 105 00:05:28,420 --> 00:05:30,030 [chuckles softly] 106 00:05:30,073 --> 00:05:32,424 Did you continue to gamble while you were living with him? 107 00:05:32,467 --> 00:05:34,861 Yes. 108 00:05:34,904 --> 00:05:37,298 It... 109 00:05:37,342 --> 00:05:39,953 it actually got a bit out of control. 110 00:05:39,996 --> 00:05:42,825 How big a hole we talking about? 111 00:05:43,870 --> 00:05:46,046 $300,000. 112 00:05:48,091 --> 00:05:49,223 Wow. 113 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:52,400 That is a lot of money. 114 00:05:52,444 --> 00:05:54,837 And who do you owe the money to? 115 00:05:54,881 --> 00:05:57,057 A guy named Asher Ray. 116 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:59,189 He runs a game out of Westport. 117 00:05:59,233 --> 00:06:01,017 And he's been breathing down my neck pretty hard 118 00:06:01,061 --> 00:06:02,410 to get his money. 119 00:06:02,454 --> 00:06:05,239 Well, I hate to be indelicate, but your dad's death 120 00:06:05,282 --> 00:06:07,807 kind of solved all of that, didn't it? 121 00:06:09,591 --> 00:06:11,463 How much do you stand to inherit? 122 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:15,380 $27 million. 123 00:06:16,990 --> 00:06:19,340 So if I'm the prosecutor, 124 00:06:19,384 --> 00:06:21,734 this looks like patricide for profit. 125 00:06:21,777 --> 00:06:23,388 I know that. 126 00:06:25,346 --> 00:06:27,304 Hey, old friend. 127 00:06:27,348 --> 00:06:29,350 That's why I called you. 128 00:06:30,525 --> 00:06:32,440 Mm. 129 00:06:32,484 --> 00:06:34,442 ♪ 130 00:06:40,143 --> 00:06:43,016 BENNY: [laughs] What a beautiful little girl. 131 00:06:43,059 --> 00:06:46,541 Oh, man. 132 00:06:46,585 --> 00:06:49,283 You guys come up with a name yet? 133 00:06:49,326 --> 00:06:51,503 Uh, no. Hospital keeps calling. 134 00:06:51,546 --> 00:06:52,982 They're acting like we're trying to pull a fast one. 135 00:06:53,026 --> 00:06:56,159 Well, it is a little peculiar, 136 00:06:56,203 --> 00:06:58,379 you not having a name for your child. 137 00:06:58,423 --> 00:07:01,208 It's not like you didn't have nine months to think about it. 138 00:07:01,251 --> 00:07:03,732 Ah. We just have very different points of view. 139 00:07:03,776 --> 00:07:05,473 You have a name in your head? 140 00:07:05,517 --> 00:07:08,302 Actually, yeah. 141 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:11,261 When I look at her, I see Ingrid. 142 00:07:11,305 --> 00:07:12,698 Ingrid.Yeah. 143 00:07:12,741 --> 00:07:14,090 That's such a pretty name. 144 00:07:15,570 --> 00:07:18,181 Your sister's convinced she's an Asa. 145 00:07:18,225 --> 00:07:19,182 Asa? 146 00:07:19,226 --> 00:07:22,185 A-S-A. 147 00:07:22,229 --> 00:07:25,711 Asa. Means goddess. 148 00:07:25,754 --> 00:07:28,931 Oh. That's a good one, too. 149 00:07:28,975 --> 00:07:31,325 You are gonna be no help at all on this, 150 00:07:31,368 --> 00:07:32,935 are you?Nope. 151 00:07:32,979 --> 00:07:34,850 I was not born yesterday, sir. 152 00:07:34,894 --> 00:07:36,635 So... 153 00:07:36,678 --> 00:07:37,810 Voir dire. Talk to me. 154 00:07:37,853 --> 00:07:38,985 What are we looking for? 155 00:07:40,029 --> 00:07:42,423 It's actually pretty simple. 156 00:07:42,467 --> 00:07:44,425 I think we want jurors who will 157 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:47,515 look at Vivian and see someone so sharp, 158 00:07:47,559 --> 00:07:49,343 so well-adjusted, that they're just gonna 159 00:07:49,386 --> 00:07:51,040 reject the idea that she'd be involved 160 00:07:51,084 --> 00:07:54,217 in something as heinous and perverse as patricide. 161 00:07:54,261 --> 00:07:55,392 Mm. 162 00:07:55,436 --> 00:07:59,005 So... what am I looking for? 163 00:07:59,048 --> 00:08:01,747 People from close, happy families 164 00:08:01,790 --> 00:08:04,619 who'd never dream of hurting a loved one? 165 00:08:04,663 --> 00:08:07,709 No. It's quite the opposite. 166 00:08:07,753 --> 00:08:10,320 We want people from complicated, 167 00:08:10,364 --> 00:08:12,540 dysfunctional families. 168 00:08:12,584 --> 00:08:15,021 The more difficult their home life, the better. 169 00:08:15,064 --> 00:08:16,413 People who know that just 'cause you want 170 00:08:16,457 --> 00:08:18,024 to kill a family member doesn't mean 171 00:08:18,067 --> 00:08:19,591 that you actually would kill them. 172 00:08:19,634 --> 00:08:21,767 So... 173 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:24,160 who here spent the holidays 174 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:25,771 with their family? 175 00:08:26,815 --> 00:08:28,208 Wow. 176 00:08:28,251 --> 00:08:29,818 So, you spent 177 00:08:29,862 --> 00:08:32,255 the holidays with your family and lived to tell about it. 178 00:08:32,299 --> 00:08:34,083 Yes, I did and yes, I did. 179 00:08:34,127 --> 00:08:36,782 Okay, all right, all right. So, how was it? 180 00:08:36,825 --> 00:08:38,044 Fantastic. 181 00:08:38,087 --> 00:08:40,350 My husband, kids and I rent a cabin every year 182 00:08:40,394 --> 00:08:43,353 with my two sisters and their families. 183 00:08:43,397 --> 00:08:46,879 It's not fancy, but we always have a great time. 184 00:08:46,922 --> 00:08:49,882 So, no fighting? No raised voices? 185 00:08:49,925 --> 00:08:51,448 Of course not. 186 00:08:53,146 --> 00:08:55,409 Liar, liar, pants on fire. 187 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:58,020 Either that or there's a whole lot of drinking going on. 188 00:09:00,632 --> 00:09:01,981 Your Honor... 189 00:09:02,024 --> 00:09:03,504 [grunts] 190 00:09:03,548 --> 00:09:06,986 ...we'd like to, uh, thank and excuse this juror. 191 00:09:07,029 --> 00:09:10,555 And what about you, sir? 192 00:09:10,598 --> 00:09:13,383 Did you spend the holidays with your family? 193 00:09:13,427 --> 00:09:14,994 Afraid so. 194 00:09:15,037 --> 00:09:16,996 I take it it wasn't fantastic? 195 00:09:17,039 --> 00:09:20,434 It was three days of listening to my brother humblebrag 196 00:09:20,477 --> 00:09:23,698 about his big job and his hot girlfriend. 197 00:09:23,742 --> 00:09:25,308 And wanting to shove fruitcake 198 00:09:25,352 --> 00:09:28,573 down my gluten-free, macrobiotic stepmom's throat. 199 00:09:28,616 --> 00:09:30,749 All of that while dogs barked, 200 00:09:30,792 --> 00:09:34,579 kids screamed and the worst music you ever heard 201 00:09:34,622 --> 00:09:36,058 played nonstop. 202 00:09:36,102 --> 00:09:38,844 Mm. My condolences. 203 00:09:38,887 --> 00:09:42,064 You ever think about just skipping it? 204 00:09:42,108 --> 00:09:43,892 Not going? 205 00:09:43,936 --> 00:09:46,591 You mean not show up for Christmas with my family? 206 00:09:46,634 --> 00:09:49,594 Sure. People do it. 207 00:09:50,638 --> 00:09:52,422 Not me. 208 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:55,600 I mean, my family drives me nuts, but they're my family. 209 00:09:57,427 --> 00:10:01,301 Your Honor, the defense finds this juror acceptable. 210 00:10:01,344 --> 00:10:03,042 Nice work today in court, sir. 211 00:10:03,085 --> 00:10:04,434 You want to grab some lunch? 212 00:10:04,478 --> 00:10:07,481 Uh, actually, I'm thinking about skipping it. 213 00:10:13,313 --> 00:10:14,793 Are you okay? 214 00:10:14,836 --> 00:10:17,056 Yeah, I'm fine. 215 00:10:17,099 --> 00:10:20,233 I just ate something I shouldn't have for breakfast. 216 00:10:20,276 --> 00:10:22,931 Hey. I think I'm just gonna sit here. 217 00:10:22,975 --> 00:10:25,194 You get yourself something to eat. 218 00:10:25,238 --> 00:10:27,544 That is not gonna happen. 219 00:10:27,588 --> 00:10:29,111 Maybe we should get you to see a doctor? 220 00:10:29,155 --> 00:10:31,287 No, no, no, no. I'm-I'm good. 221 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:33,594 I'm telling you, it's no big deal. 222 00:10:33,638 --> 00:10:36,641 Hey, that is some jury we snagged, huh? 223 00:10:37,685 --> 00:10:39,469 Well, yeah. 224 00:10:39,513 --> 00:10:41,428 Over two-thirds of them haven't prejudged Vivian. 225 00:10:41,471 --> 00:10:44,649 I'd say that's once in a lifetime. 226 00:10:47,608 --> 00:10:49,088 [exhales] 227 00:10:51,351 --> 00:10:53,962 Now if I could just convince you 228 00:10:54,006 --> 00:10:55,703 to get in a car with me and go to the emergency room, 229 00:10:55,747 --> 00:10:57,313 so someone could take a look at you? 230 00:10:57,357 --> 00:10:59,664 Well, that's not gonna happen. 231 00:10:59,707 --> 00:11:01,796 And how long did you work as a home health care worker 232 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,450 for the defendant and her father? 233 00:11:03,493 --> 00:11:06,801 I worked in their home for a little over four months. 234 00:11:06,845 --> 00:11:09,935 BARRETT: And during that time, did you become aware 235 00:11:09,978 --> 00:11:12,981 that the defendant was deeply in debt to someone? 236 00:11:16,463 --> 00:11:18,247 Yes. 237 00:11:18,291 --> 00:11:20,554 And how did you come to know this? 238 00:11:21,598 --> 00:11:22,817 One day, um, 239 00:11:22,861 --> 00:11:24,993 when I was working for Mr. Cahill, 240 00:11:25,037 --> 00:11:27,517 um, a man came to see Vivian. 241 00:11:27,561 --> 00:11:29,606 I was in the next room, 242 00:11:29,650 --> 00:11:30,999 and it got pretty loud. 243 00:11:31,043 --> 00:11:32,914 BARRETT: And what was said that led you to believe 244 00:11:32,958 --> 00:11:34,829 Vivian owed money to this man? 245 00:11:34,873 --> 00:11:36,875 Everything. 246 00:11:36,918 --> 00:11:38,572 He was yelling that she owed him 247 00:11:38,615 --> 00:11:40,269 hundreds of thousands of dollars. 248 00:11:40,313 --> 00:11:42,663 That did she really think that he'd 249 00:11:42,707 --> 00:11:44,056 just turn and look the other way? 250 00:11:44,099 --> 00:11:46,014 BARRETT: And how did the defendant respond to that? 251 00:11:46,058 --> 00:11:48,495 She told him that she didn't have 252 00:11:48,538 --> 00:11:49,844 any money to give him right then. 253 00:11:49,888 --> 00:11:52,151 That he needed to be patient. 254 00:11:52,194 --> 00:11:55,371 Did this seem to satisfy him? 255 00:11:55,415 --> 00:11:56,633 No. 256 00:11:56,677 --> 00:11:58,810 He said people were coming down on him. 257 00:11:58,853 --> 00:12:01,682 People that he owed money to. 258 00:12:01,726 --> 00:12:04,685 And how did the defendant respond to that? 259 00:12:04,729 --> 00:12:07,470 [sighs] She begged him for more time. 260 00:12:07,514 --> 00:12:11,344 And swore that she will pay it all back when her dad died 261 00:12:11,387 --> 00:12:14,042 and she came into her inheritance. 262 00:12:14,086 --> 00:12:15,652 So Vivian was counting 263 00:12:15,696 --> 00:12:18,699 on her father's death to bail her out of trouble? 264 00:12:18,743 --> 00:12:20,832 [gavel bangs] 265 00:12:20,875 --> 00:12:22,834 Objection. Calls for speculation. 266 00:12:22,877 --> 00:12:25,706 WALLACE: Sustained. Ask another question, Counselor. 267 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:28,361 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 268 00:12:28,404 --> 00:12:30,319 Your witness, 269 00:12:30,363 --> 00:12:32,408 Mr. Colón. 270 00:12:42,070 --> 00:12:44,681 Hey. 271 00:12:44,725 --> 00:12:46,771 [grunts] 272 00:12:46,814 --> 00:12:48,250 So, this, uh... 273 00:12:48,294 --> 00:12:49,948 [clears throat] 274 00:12:49,991 --> 00:12:52,777 ...man who, uh, came to see Vivian-- 275 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:55,127 did you get a good look at him? 276 00:12:55,170 --> 00:12:57,694 Yes, I did. 277 00:12:57,738 --> 00:12:59,174 And was he a big guy? 278 00:12:59,218 --> 00:13:02,612 Yes, at least six foot, one, maybe six foot, two. 279 00:13:02,656 --> 00:13:04,527 Lots of muscles. 280 00:13:04,571 --> 00:13:07,530 So, it is safe to say this man 281 00:13:07,574 --> 00:13:09,141 that Vivian owed money to 282 00:13:09,184 --> 00:13:11,578 was bigger and stronger than she was? 283 00:13:11,621 --> 00:13:13,362 Yes, much. 284 00:13:13,406 --> 00:13:16,104 And, so, this big, strong man-- 285 00:13:16,148 --> 00:13:18,541 he obviously knew where 286 00:13:18,585 --> 00:13:20,630 Terrence Cahill lived. 287 00:13:20,674 --> 00:13:24,286 Obviously knew he... had a nice house. 288 00:13:24,330 --> 00:13:27,507 Obviously knew he had lots of money? 289 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:28,638 Yes. 290 00:13:31,946 --> 00:13:33,861 Are you all right, Mr. Colón? 291 00:13:33,905 --> 00:13:34,993 Yes, Your Honor. 292 00:13:35,036 --> 00:13:36,821 Yes, I am, uh... 293 00:13:36,864 --> 00:13:39,780 I'm fine, thank you. 294 00:13:39,824 --> 00:13:43,131 Now, this, uh, man also knew 295 00:13:43,175 --> 00:13:46,613 that Vivian's dad needed to die 296 00:13:46,656 --> 00:13:49,659 before she'd be able to pay him back, isn't that right? 297 00:13:49,703 --> 00:13:51,748 Well, that's what it sounded like. 298 00:13:51,792 --> 00:13:54,882 So, uh... which would you say 299 00:13:54,926 --> 00:13:56,492 is more likely-- 300 00:13:56,536 --> 00:14:00,105 that, uh, Vivian, who put her life on hold 301 00:14:00,148 --> 00:14:03,108 to take care of her father, bludgeoned him to death 302 00:14:03,151 --> 00:14:05,762 with a fireplace tool, or thatObjection! 303 00:14:05,806 --> 00:14:07,547 the big strong manMr. Colón. 304 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:09,418 broke into her house with the intention 305 00:14:09,462 --> 00:14:10,637 of endingMr. Colón. 306 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,769 Mr. Cahill's life to get his money back? 307 00:14:12,813 --> 00:14:14,032 Mr. Colón.[gavel bangs] 308 00:14:14,075 --> 00:14:15,903 Sustained. 309 00:14:15,947 --> 00:14:17,862 The jury will disregard that last question. 310 00:14:19,167 --> 00:14:20,777 No, they won't. 311 00:14:20,821 --> 00:14:22,649 Mr. Colón, 312 00:14:22,692 --> 00:14:23,998 are you sure you're all right? 313 00:14:26,087 --> 00:14:27,045 Benny! 314 00:14:27,088 --> 00:14:28,698 What is it? What's happening? 315 00:14:28,742 --> 00:14:31,832 Benny, can you hear me? Someone call 911. 316 00:14:36,054 --> 00:14:38,186 Are you the gentleman who came in with Mr. Colón? 317 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:39,448 Yes, I am, uh... 318 00:14:39,492 --> 00:14:42,321 How's he doing, is he okay? 319 00:14:42,364 --> 00:14:44,018 Are you family, sir? 320 00:14:44,062 --> 00:14:46,455 I'm his brother-in-law. 321 00:14:46,499 --> 00:14:48,501 So, is everything all right? 322 00:14:48,544 --> 00:14:49,981 Uh, do you have any idea what's going on? 323 00:14:50,024 --> 00:14:51,808 His appendix burst. 324 00:14:51,852 --> 00:14:53,985 At the moment, we're in the process of preparing him 325 00:14:54,028 --> 00:14:55,508 for emergency surgery. 326 00:14:55,551 --> 00:14:57,727 But he's gonna be okay, right? 327 00:14:57,771 --> 00:14:59,251 Well, it's always better when we catch 328 00:14:59,294 --> 00:15:00,861 these things before they burst. 329 00:15:00,905 --> 00:15:02,732 The surgery and the recovery are always 330 00:15:02,776 --> 00:15:05,039 a little more involved after they've ruptured. 331 00:15:05,083 --> 00:15:07,389 But still, it's an appendix. 332 00:15:07,433 --> 00:15:09,304 You guys do this sort of thing all the time. 333 00:15:09,348 --> 00:15:10,740 He should be out of here in what, 334 00:15:10,784 --> 00:15:12,699 a day, day and a half?Mm, 335 00:15:12,742 --> 00:15:15,310 not quite. Unfortunately, once the appendix bursts, 336 00:15:15,354 --> 00:15:19,010 it releases all manner of infectious agents into the body. 337 00:15:19,053 --> 00:15:21,969 He could be battling potential infections for weeks. 338 00:15:22,013 --> 00:15:23,666 And, he needs to be monitored. 339 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:25,973 Weeks? 340 00:15:26,017 --> 00:15:27,627 You gonna tell the court about Benny? 341 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:29,324 Kind of have to. 342 00:15:29,368 --> 00:15:30,978 Damn. 343 00:15:31,022 --> 00:15:33,372 That was an amazing jury. 344 00:15:33,415 --> 00:15:35,678 Well, there's no way the judge holds on to that jury 345 00:15:35,722 --> 00:15:37,463 until Benny recovers. 346 00:15:37,506 --> 00:15:39,682 She'll probably declare a mistrial 347 00:15:39,726 --> 00:15:41,423 and we'll have to start all over again 348 00:15:41,467 --> 00:15:44,165 when Benny's back in action. 349 00:15:44,209 --> 00:15:47,429 [indistinct announcement over P.A.] 350 00:15:47,473 --> 00:15:50,606 Do you think there might be a chance that I... 351 00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:52,304 could cover for him? 352 00:15:52,347 --> 00:15:55,089 Cover in a murder trial? 353 00:15:55,133 --> 00:15:57,135 You haven't even graduated law school. 354 00:15:57,178 --> 00:16:00,007 No offense, but... no. 355 00:16:00,051 --> 00:16:02,618 All right, just thought I'd put it out there. 356 00:16:05,317 --> 00:16:08,059 You know, it says here that Connecticut courts 357 00:16:08,102 --> 00:16:09,843 actually allow law student interns much more latitude 358 00:16:09,886 --> 00:16:11,453 than they do in New York. 359 00:16:11,497 --> 00:16:14,369 Well, latitude is one thing, but allowing a law student 360 00:16:14,413 --> 00:16:16,415 to sit first chair on a murder case... 361 00:16:16,458 --> 00:16:19,940 seems like a reach to me. 362 00:16:19,984 --> 00:16:22,116 And whatever the case, I'm sure they require 363 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,640 students to be supervised by a bar-certified attorney, 364 00:16:24,684 --> 00:16:27,426 and with Benny in the hospital, who's that gonna be, hmm? 365 00:16:27,469 --> 00:16:29,036 I don't know, is there any reason 366 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,777 it couldn't just be Benny himself? 367 00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:33,519 If that doctor is right, and Benny's just gonna be 368 00:16:33,562 --> 00:16:35,521 lying around the hospital for a couple of weeks, 369 00:16:35,564 --> 00:16:39,177 Chunk could text him, call him, e-mail him. 370 00:16:40,482 --> 00:16:43,181 With the court's permission, I'd like to take over 371 00:16:43,224 --> 00:16:46,010 for my colleague Benjamin Colón, who had a medical emergency 372 00:16:46,053 --> 00:16:47,446 yesterday and will be hospitalized 373 00:16:47,489 --> 00:16:49,404 for the next few weeks. 374 00:16:49,448 --> 00:16:52,059 I have fully informed Ms. Cahill of my status 375 00:16:52,103 --> 00:16:54,061 as a third-year law student and she's consented 376 00:16:54,105 --> 00:16:55,106 to my representation. 377 00:16:55,149 --> 00:16:58,892 This is my application to the court 378 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:00,720 to appear as a student intern 379 00:17:00,763 --> 00:17:02,678 under Section 314. 380 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:04,941 And that is a letter from Benjamin Colón, 381 00:17:04,985 --> 00:17:07,292 a member in good standing of the Connecticut Bar for over 382 00:17:07,335 --> 00:17:10,991 20 years, saying that he would supervise me throughout trial. 383 00:17:11,035 --> 00:17:13,428 Section 314 specifically states 384 00:17:13,472 --> 00:17:17,302 that the supervising attorney must be present in court. 385 00:17:17,345 --> 00:17:19,043 How's that gonna work 386 00:17:19,086 --> 00:17:20,696 if Mr. Colón's in the hospital? 387 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:23,438 Well, I'd make it my business to check in with him regularly. 388 00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:24,483 And Dr. Bull, 389 00:17:24,526 --> 00:17:26,485 who's overseen hundreds of trials, 390 00:17:26,528 --> 00:17:28,530 will be present in court every day. 391 00:17:28,574 --> 00:17:29,705 Every minute, Your Honor. 392 00:17:29,749 --> 00:17:30,924 BARRETT: With all due respect, 393 00:17:30,967 --> 00:17:34,275 Your Honor, Dr. Bull isn't a lawyer. 394 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:37,148 And allowing a law student to sit first chair 395 00:17:37,191 --> 00:17:39,585 at a murder trial without a licensed attorney present 396 00:17:39,628 --> 00:17:41,326 practically guarantees a successful 397 00:17:41,369 --> 00:17:44,111 "ineffective assistance of counsel" appeal. 398 00:17:44,155 --> 00:17:46,418 CHUNK: I don't know if you've noticed, Your Honor, 399 00:17:46,461 --> 00:17:49,116 but I'm not your typical 20-something law student. 400 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,205 I've had quite a few years of life experience 401 00:17:51,249 --> 00:17:54,339 under my belt before I started law school. 402 00:17:54,382 --> 00:17:57,124 That experience included working on more murder trials 403 00:17:57,168 --> 00:18:00,606 at TAC than most attorneys handle in their lifetime. 404 00:18:00,649 --> 00:18:02,390 And once I started law school, 405 00:18:02,434 --> 00:18:04,958 I first chaired a number of complicated criminal trials 406 00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:06,481 for our legal aid clinic. 407 00:18:06,525 --> 00:18:07,700 BARRETT: Your Honor, the rule 408 00:18:07,743 --> 00:18:08,744 is very clear... 409 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:10,224 The rule is in place to protect 410 00:18:10,268 --> 00:18:11,834 the client's best interests. 411 00:18:11,878 --> 00:18:15,490 Well, I fail to see how Ms. Cahill's best interests 412 00:18:15,534 --> 00:18:17,231 are being protected by a mistrial. 413 00:18:17,275 --> 00:18:18,580 Ms. Cahill has been 414 00:18:18,624 --> 00:18:20,234 in custody during trial. 415 00:18:20,278 --> 00:18:22,715 A mistrial would simply prolong the incarceration 416 00:18:22,758 --> 00:18:25,457 of an innocent woman, until God knows 417 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,589 when we can get ourselves back on the trial calendar. 418 00:18:27,633 --> 00:18:29,548 I'm sure Your Honor can make room on her calendar. 419 00:18:29,591 --> 00:18:31,071 Furthermore, 420 00:18:31,115 --> 00:18:33,508 if a defendant can represent themselves pro se in court, 421 00:18:33,552 --> 00:18:36,120 shouldn't they be allowed to choose a representative, 422 00:18:36,163 --> 00:18:39,471 who is much more qualified than themselves to...WALLACE: All right. 423 00:18:39,514 --> 00:18:40,602 All right. 424 00:18:40,646 --> 00:18:42,082 You're obviously able to craft 425 00:18:42,126 --> 00:18:43,997 a very persuasive legal argument. 426 00:18:45,607 --> 00:18:48,393 I'm granting a special dispensation 427 00:18:48,436 --> 00:18:50,699 that allows you to step in. 428 00:18:52,527 --> 00:18:55,574 But I better not come to regret this decision, 429 00:18:55,617 --> 00:18:58,403 or youwill come to regret this decision. 430 00:18:58,446 --> 00:19:00,274 Are we clear, Mr. Palmer? 431 00:19:00,318 --> 00:19:01,623 We are, Your Honor. 432 00:19:01,667 --> 00:19:03,495 Thank you, Your Honor. 433 00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:07,586 Well, the good news is 434 00:19:07,629 --> 00:19:10,980 your temperature is coming down. 435 00:19:11,024 --> 00:19:13,548 And your blood pressure is getting close to normal. 436 00:19:13,592 --> 00:19:15,202 Ah, that's great. 437 00:19:15,246 --> 00:19:17,770 Um... do you think there's any chance 438 00:19:17,813 --> 00:19:19,641 I might get discharged early? 439 00:19:19,685 --> 00:19:22,644 I-I'm in the middle of a very important trial... 440 00:19:22,688 --> 00:19:23,993 First of all, that's a doctor question. 441 00:19:24,037 --> 00:19:25,995 Second of all, nobody said anything 442 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:28,433 about anybody getting discharged. 443 00:19:28,476 --> 00:19:30,652 Your body still needs plenty of rest. 444 00:19:30,696 --> 00:19:31,958 Okay. 445 00:19:32,001 --> 00:19:34,613 Well, you are very persuasive. 446 00:19:34,656 --> 00:19:35,831 You win. 447 00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:37,485 Rest it is.Mm-hmm. 448 00:19:37,529 --> 00:19:39,444 You say so. 449 00:19:40,532 --> 00:19:42,534 [door closes] 450 00:19:52,848 --> 00:19:54,894 Benny, how you feeling? 451 00:19:54,937 --> 00:19:57,505 Oof. I'm a little sore, but... 452 00:19:57,549 --> 00:20:00,247 all my major parts seem to be working. 453 00:20:00,291 --> 00:20:02,554 So, how-how's the trial going? 454 00:20:02,597 --> 00:20:04,947 Was there a witness on the stand? Who-who is it? 455 00:20:04,991 --> 00:20:07,472 How is Chunk doing? Is he doing okay? 456 00:20:07,515 --> 00:20:09,909 The medical examiner's on the stand and it's going fine. 457 00:20:09,952 --> 00:20:11,693 Don't start getting stressed out over this. 458 00:20:11,737 --> 00:20:13,260 You are supposed to be recuperating. 459 00:20:13,304 --> 00:20:14,261 Hey. 460 00:20:14,305 --> 00:20:15,871 I'm also supposed to be 461 00:20:15,915 --> 00:20:18,047 supervising Chunk. 462 00:20:18,091 --> 00:20:20,049 I sent a letter to the judge saying 463 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:21,921 that I am personally responsible for his work. 464 00:20:21,964 --> 00:20:23,662 And I'm sure that Chunk will check in with you 465 00:20:23,705 --> 00:20:26,273 as soon as he can, but until he is on a recess, 466 00:20:26,317 --> 00:20:27,753 you should rest. 467 00:20:27,796 --> 00:20:29,189 BAILIFF: Court is adjourned 468 00:20:29,233 --> 00:20:31,147 for a ten-minute recess. 469 00:20:35,239 --> 00:20:36,283 Bull? 470 00:20:36,327 --> 00:20:38,285 Sorry to intrude. 471 00:20:38,329 --> 00:20:39,721 Well, intrude away. 472 00:20:41,375 --> 00:20:43,551 Well, uh, I found a something 473 00:20:43,595 --> 00:20:45,336 that may be a nothing. 474 00:20:45,379 --> 00:20:46,815 But a something that's a nothing is better 475 00:20:46,859 --> 00:20:48,339 than the absolutely nothing we already have. 476 00:20:48,382 --> 00:20:49,557 You got that right. 477 00:20:49,601 --> 00:20:51,037 And this something that may be a nothing? 478 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,734 Well, I spoke with a dog walker who was working 479 00:20:52,778 --> 00:20:54,170 in the neighborhood that morning and she says 480 00:20:54,214 --> 00:20:56,956 she saw a man running down Cahill's street 481 00:20:56,999 --> 00:20:58,871 around the time of his death. 482 00:20:58,914 --> 00:21:00,351 Could be our killer. 483 00:21:00,394 --> 00:21:02,309 Or it could be a guy out for a jog. 484 00:21:02,353 --> 00:21:04,311 Does he at least fit the description of the man 485 00:21:04,355 --> 00:21:06,270 who came to Vivian's home? 486 00:21:06,313 --> 00:21:09,360 Or does he perhaps look like Asher Ray? 487 00:21:09,403 --> 00:21:10,926 Well, it was cold, 488 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:13,233 and he was wearing a coat with a hood. 489 00:21:13,277 --> 00:21:14,713 So she didn't get a very good look at his face, 490 00:21:14,756 --> 00:21:16,671 but she is prepared to testify that he was 491 00:21:16,715 --> 00:21:18,194 a big guy with dark hair 492 00:21:18,238 --> 00:21:19,674 in the right place at the right time. 493 00:21:19,718 --> 00:21:22,808 Big guy, dark hair. Right place, right time, 494 00:21:22,851 --> 00:21:24,157 walking down the street. 495 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,941 So that's definitely a nothing. 496 00:21:25,985 --> 00:21:27,334 I said a nothing that may be a something. 497 00:21:27,378 --> 00:21:29,162 That's a distinction without a difference. 498 00:21:29,205 --> 00:21:31,338 DANNY: You say tomato, I say a place to start. 499 00:21:31,382 --> 00:21:34,428 She claims he was wearing a blue parka 500 00:21:34,472 --> 00:21:35,908 with a red stripe down each arm. 501 00:21:35,951 --> 00:21:37,823 I'm gonna go through all the security footage 502 00:21:37,866 --> 00:21:40,173 Taylor can hack into within a quarter mile of the house, 503 00:21:40,216 --> 00:21:43,045 see if I can find him and perhaps get a look at his face, 504 00:21:43,089 --> 00:21:45,483 or his car, something.Okay, uh, 505 00:21:45,526 --> 00:21:47,049 question from the peanut gallery. 506 00:21:47,093 --> 00:21:48,355 This witness-- did she happen to mention 507 00:21:48,399 --> 00:21:50,183 whether or not she'd spoken to the police? 508 00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:52,577 No. They never questioned her. 509 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:54,274 Although I can't fault them. 510 00:21:55,406 --> 00:21:57,146 Bull's not wrong. 511 00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:59,758 All of this is really the very definition of a long shot. 512 00:21:59,801 --> 00:22:03,370 Yeah, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. 513 00:22:03,414 --> 00:22:06,242 Detective Jacobson, during your investigation, 514 00:22:06,286 --> 00:22:08,462 did you have an opportunity to speak 515 00:22:08,506 --> 00:22:10,943 to someone named Jami Schaefer? 516 00:22:10,986 --> 00:22:13,032 Not that I recall. 517 00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:16,340 Well, let me jog your memory. 518 00:22:16,383 --> 00:22:18,342 She's a dog walker who was working 519 00:22:18,385 --> 00:22:20,431 in Terrence Cahill's neighborhood 520 00:22:20,474 --> 00:22:21,649 the morning of the murder. 521 00:22:21,693 --> 00:22:24,260 Does that ring a bell?No. 522 00:22:24,304 --> 00:22:25,784 I'm sorry, I don't recall any dog walker 523 00:22:25,827 --> 00:22:27,046 or anyone with that name. 524 00:22:28,439 --> 00:22:30,354 Really? 525 00:22:30,397 --> 00:22:32,965 Well, she was in the area. 526 00:22:33,008 --> 00:22:35,663 If there was something or someone to see, 527 00:22:35,707 --> 00:22:37,448 she might well have seen it. 528 00:22:37,491 --> 00:22:39,450 An investigative lapse 529 00:22:39,493 --> 00:22:41,365 like this makes me wonder how many other 530 00:22:41,408 --> 00:22:44,455 potential witnesses you missed.Objection. 531 00:22:44,498 --> 00:22:46,457 Is counselor gonna ask a question 532 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:48,110 or just posture for the jury? 533 00:22:48,154 --> 00:22:49,590 My apologies, Your Honor. 534 00:22:49,634 --> 00:22:53,420 I'm-I'm just trying to understand how the detective can 535 00:22:53,464 --> 00:22:56,336 be so certain that he's arrested the right person when he didn't 536 00:22:56,380 --> 00:22:57,903 speak to all of the potential witnesses. 537 00:22:57,946 --> 00:22:59,948 Your Honor, he's still doing it. 538 00:22:59,992 --> 00:23:03,387 Not to mention citing facts not in evidence 539 00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:05,432 and events for which there is no foundation. 540 00:23:05,476 --> 00:23:09,175 Our little Chunk playing dirty. Makes me so proud. 541 00:23:09,218 --> 00:23:12,526 Objection sustained. We know you're new at this, 542 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:15,224 Counselor, but you're supposed to ask the questions 543 00:23:15,268 --> 00:23:17,618 and he's supposed to make the statements. 544 00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:19,185 So ask a question. 545 00:23:20,491 --> 00:23:22,928 Will do, Your Honor. 546 00:23:22,971 --> 00:23:26,584 Detective Jacobson, would it surprise you to learn 547 00:23:26,627 --> 00:23:29,064 that Ms. Schaefer said that she saw a man 548 00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:30,762 running down the street, away from 549 00:23:30,805 --> 00:23:33,808 the Cahill house around the time of his death? 550 00:23:33,852 --> 00:23:36,463 Yeah, that is certainly new information. 551 00:23:36,507 --> 00:23:38,509 And would it surprise you to learn that the witness 552 00:23:38,552 --> 00:23:42,034 described this man as big and dark-haired? 553 00:23:42,077 --> 00:23:44,602 Just like Asher Ray, the man who threatened 554 00:23:44,645 --> 00:23:46,647 Vivian Cahill? 555 00:23:46,691 --> 00:23:49,476 With all due respect, 556 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,652 many men are big and dark-haired, 557 00:23:51,696 --> 00:23:54,002 and millions of them were walking around 558 00:23:54,046 --> 00:23:55,308 when Mr. Cahill died. 559 00:23:55,351 --> 00:23:57,441 Some of them in his very neighborhood, 560 00:23:57,484 --> 00:23:59,921 but that doesn't change my point of view about this crime 561 00:23:59,965 --> 00:24:01,880 and who I believe committed it. 562 00:24:01,923 --> 00:24:03,490 But in light of this new information, 563 00:24:03,534 --> 00:24:06,493 will you at least concede the possibility 564 00:24:06,537 --> 00:24:09,714 that Asher Ray killed Terrence Cahill 565 00:24:09,757 --> 00:24:12,499 so that my client could come into her inheritance 566 00:24:12,543 --> 00:24:14,370 and therefore have the money to pay him back? 567 00:24:14,414 --> 00:24:16,024 No, I would not. 568 00:24:16,068 --> 00:24:18,897 Huh. What's this detective so smug about? 569 00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:20,725 What does he know that we don't know? 570 00:24:20,768 --> 00:24:23,118 Don't step in it, Chunk. 571 00:24:23,162 --> 00:24:25,425 So a man matching Asher Ray's description 572 00:24:25,469 --> 00:24:28,515 is seen near the crime scene around the time of his death 573 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:30,517 and you won't concede that it's possible 574 00:24:30,561 --> 00:24:32,824 that he's the killer? 575 00:24:32,867 --> 00:24:36,131 That's what I said. In fact I'll go so far to say 576 00:24:36,175 --> 00:24:38,220 that it's impossible for Asher Ray to be the killer. 577 00:24:38,264 --> 00:24:41,572 Really? Impossible? 578 00:24:41,615 --> 00:24:43,356 How is that? 579 00:24:43,399 --> 00:24:45,358 Because Asher Ray died 580 00:24:45,401 --> 00:24:47,578 two days before Terrence Cahill was murdered. 581 00:24:47,621 --> 00:24:50,363 [gallery murmuring]His body was fished out of the Hudson day before yesterday 582 00:24:50,406 --> 00:24:53,497 when a trawler was breaking up ice on the water. 583 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:56,064 The coroner said he'd been dead at least 72 hours at that point, 584 00:24:56,108 --> 00:24:58,632 so I can assure you that Asher Ray couldn't have killed him 585 00:24:58,676 --> 00:25:01,548 unless his ghost rose up out of the water and did it. 586 00:25:03,071 --> 00:25:07,119 Wow, Chunk, that's gonna be tough to get off your shoes. 587 00:25:11,558 --> 00:25:13,168 BENNY: Asher Ray's dead? 588 00:25:13,212 --> 00:25:15,867 How did we not know he was dead? 589 00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:19,174 I'm guessing the A.D.A. asked the medical examiner 590 00:25:19,218 --> 00:25:21,829 to hold off on signing Ray's death certificate. 591 00:25:21,873 --> 00:25:24,789 She knew we were gonna use Ray to create reasonable doubt 592 00:25:24,832 --> 00:25:27,226 and she wanted to discredit us in court. 593 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:28,662 It's pretty smart, actually. 594 00:25:28,706 --> 00:25:31,665 Yeah, and now our best alternative suspect is gone. 595 00:25:31,709 --> 00:25:34,363 The prosecution has rested, we're up, 596 00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:36,061 and all Chunk has to work with 597 00:25:36,104 --> 00:25:38,498 is a man in a parka who could have been out jogging. 598 00:25:38,542 --> 00:25:41,196 [chuckles softly] 599 00:25:43,024 --> 00:25:44,765 I don't mean to be rude, 600 00:25:44,809 --> 00:25:47,159 but how can any of this make you happy? 601 00:25:47,202 --> 00:25:50,249 [chuckles] I'm not crazy. 602 00:25:50,292 --> 00:25:54,122 I-I mean, I know that this is bad for us, but... 603 00:25:54,166 --> 00:25:57,212 I guess I'm just relieved 604 00:25:57,256 --> 00:26:00,433 Ray didn't kill my father. 605 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:02,217 It means 606 00:26:02,261 --> 00:26:04,959 I'm not responsible for his death. 607 00:26:06,657 --> 00:26:08,963 There it is. 608 00:26:09,007 --> 00:26:12,184 When one door closes, another one opens. 609 00:26:12,227 --> 00:26:13,707 BULL: What do you mean? 610 00:26:13,751 --> 00:26:17,276 With your permission, I want to put you on the stand. 611 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,496 I want the jury to see exactly what you just showed us. 612 00:26:23,108 --> 00:26:25,197 You loved your father. 613 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,201 And the very thought that you might have caused him harm 614 00:26:29,244 --> 00:26:31,943 very nearly brought you to tears. 615 00:26:31,986 --> 00:26:33,988 Forget about you actually having killed him yourself. 616 00:26:34,032 --> 00:26:37,165 Yeah, I think you might be on to something there, Chunk. 617 00:26:37,209 --> 00:26:38,906 What do you think? 618 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:41,169 CHUNK: Ms. Cahill, 619 00:26:41,213 --> 00:26:43,781 over the years, did you have the occasion 620 00:26:43,824 --> 00:26:47,175 to ask your father for money when you got in trouble? 621 00:26:47,219 --> 00:26:49,961 Oh, yes. A number of times. 622 00:26:50,004 --> 00:26:51,963 And he helped 623 00:26:52,006 --> 00:26:53,747 dig me out of some pretty big holes. 624 00:26:53,791 --> 00:26:55,357 What about this last time? 625 00:26:55,401 --> 00:26:57,098 Did you ask your father for money 626 00:26:57,142 --> 00:26:59,187 to help pay back Asher Ray? 627 00:26:59,231 --> 00:27:01,233 Of course. 628 00:27:01,276 --> 00:27:04,758 But this time he said no. 629 00:27:04,802 --> 00:27:07,935 He said that he was done bailing me out, 630 00:27:07,979 --> 00:27:11,330 that before he died 631 00:27:11,373 --> 00:27:15,334 he needed to teach me to stand on my own. 632 00:27:15,377 --> 00:27:19,381 And were you angry when he refused to help you? 633 00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:23,472 No. 634 00:27:23,516 --> 00:27:25,300 Not really. 635 00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:27,302 He was right. 636 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:30,479 And I knew he was right. 637 00:27:30,523 --> 00:27:32,090 I was scared, 638 00:27:32,133 --> 00:27:34,701 but I wasn't mad at him. 639 00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:41,012 I was mad at myself. 640 00:27:41,055 --> 00:27:43,362 Mad for asking a sick, old man 641 00:27:43,405 --> 00:27:45,712 to help me out. 642 00:27:45,756 --> 00:27:48,454 Again. 643 00:27:48,497 --> 00:27:50,761 Now, we've heard testimony that your father 644 00:27:50,804 --> 00:27:53,415 was verbally abusive towards you. 645 00:27:53,459 --> 00:27:55,200 Would you say that's a fair statement? 646 00:27:55,243 --> 00:27:57,332 Yeah, well, 647 00:27:57,376 --> 00:28:00,335 my dad said some pretty awful things to me. 648 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,729 So if he was so awful to you, 649 00:28:02,773 --> 00:28:05,079 why did you move home to help care for him 650 00:28:05,123 --> 00:28:06,951 after his stroke? 651 00:28:07,995 --> 00:28:09,997 Because he was my dad. 652 00:28:11,216 --> 00:28:13,218 [gallery murmuring] 653 00:28:13,261 --> 00:28:15,742 Tell me we flipped somebody. 654 00:28:15,786 --> 00:28:17,613 I wish I could. 655 00:28:17,657 --> 00:28:20,051 [sighs] Well, if we lose this, 656 00:28:20,094 --> 00:28:21,617 it won't be Chunk's fault. 657 00:28:21,661 --> 00:28:23,532 The guy is good. 658 00:28:23,576 --> 00:28:25,752 He's no Benny yet, but... 659 00:28:25,796 --> 00:28:27,319 the guy's good. 660 00:28:28,407 --> 00:28:30,496 You there, Benny?BENNY [over phone]: I'm here. 661 00:28:30,539 --> 00:28:32,498 Dressed in my finest jammies, 662 00:28:32,541 --> 00:28:34,369 anxious to hear the latest. 663 00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:36,415 So let's talk about parka guy. 664 00:28:36,458 --> 00:28:38,199 Oh, I like it. He's got a name. 665 00:28:38,243 --> 00:28:40,811 Okay, so parka guy was caught on camera 666 00:28:40,854 --> 00:28:43,161 buying a carton of cigarettes in a convenience store 667 00:28:43,204 --> 00:28:45,511 about a block away from the Cahill home, 668 00:28:45,554 --> 00:28:47,469 20 minutes before the murder. 669 00:28:47,513 --> 00:28:49,210 I sweet-talked the store manager, 670 00:28:49,254 --> 00:28:51,299 and he pulled the day's credit and debit card receipts 671 00:28:51,343 --> 00:28:53,998 and I was able to get a name. Daniel Zabinski. 672 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:57,305 18. Lives in Queens. 673 00:28:57,349 --> 00:28:59,525 That'd be him. Uh, goes to high school in Queens, 674 00:28:59,568 --> 00:29:01,135 works in a coffee shop in Queens. 675 00:29:01,179 --> 00:29:04,008 So I guess we're safe to assume he didn't just go for a jog 676 00:29:04,051 --> 00:29:06,793 in Greenwich, which is at least an hour and 20 away 677 00:29:06,837 --> 00:29:08,621 via public transit.DANNY: Exactly. 678 00:29:08,664 --> 00:29:10,928 The problem is I haven't been able to find any connection 679 00:29:10,971 --> 00:29:13,452 between this Zabinski kid and Terrence Cahill. 680 00:29:13,495 --> 00:29:15,584 Zabinski. Zabinski. 681 00:29:15,628 --> 00:29:18,022 Something about that name... Yes. 682 00:29:18,065 --> 00:29:20,024 Celeste Zabinski. 683 00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:21,329 Who's Celeste Zabinski? 684 00:29:21,373 --> 00:29:24,245 Celeste Zabinski is a 42-year-old woman who, 685 00:29:24,289 --> 00:29:26,204 up until she was terminated seven months ago, 686 00:29:26,247 --> 00:29:28,206 worked for Vivian's father, 687 00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:30,425 Terrence Cahill.BENNY: Ah. 688 00:29:30,469 --> 00:29:31,992 The plot thickens. 689 00:29:32,036 --> 00:29:33,646 TAYLOR: When we found out Ray was dead 690 00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:36,257 I started looking into possible disgruntled employees 691 00:29:36,301 --> 00:29:38,129 who worked at Terrence's accounting firm. 692 00:29:38,172 --> 00:29:40,479 And do you, perchance, have an address for this Celeste? 693 00:29:40,522 --> 00:29:41,872 Same as Daniel's. 694 00:29:41,915 --> 00:29:45,266 So I'm guessing she's his mother.TAYLOR: Oops. 695 00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:47,138 Turns out they got evicted last month. 696 00:29:48,922 --> 00:29:51,490 That's not an oops. I can run with that. 697 00:29:51,533 --> 00:29:55,059 Maybe Daniel killed Terrence because he fired his mother 698 00:29:55,102 --> 00:29:56,495 and they wound up on the street. 699 00:29:58,062 --> 00:29:59,890 Well, are we sure Terrence was even around 700 00:29:59,933 --> 00:30:01,848 when this Zabinski woman was fired? 701 00:30:01,892 --> 00:30:04,198 He hasn't been running the firm since he had his stroke. 702 00:30:04,242 --> 00:30:06,200 TAYLOR: Well, according to my research, she was fired 703 00:30:06,244 --> 00:30:08,072 seven months ago and Terrence didn't even have 704 00:30:08,115 --> 00:30:10,291 his first stroke until six months ago. So, yeah, 705 00:30:10,335 --> 00:30:11,640 it seems fairly certain that Terrence 706 00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:13,686 was around when they pulled the trigger on Celeste. 707 00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:16,515 But, again, to me, the really telling thing is that 708 00:30:16,558 --> 00:30:18,430 Celeste and her son got evicted 709 00:30:18,473 --> 00:30:20,345 just a couple of days before the murder. 710 00:30:20,388 --> 00:30:22,695 And here's another tidbit worth sharing: 711 00:30:22,738 --> 00:30:24,175 according to his search history, 712 00:30:24,218 --> 00:30:27,352 Daniel started googling Terrence around that same time. 713 00:30:27,395 --> 00:30:29,223 Any chance you obtained 714 00:30:29,267 --> 00:30:31,443 that search history in a legal manner? 715 00:30:31,486 --> 00:30:33,401 I plead the Fifth. 716 00:30:34,446 --> 00:30:36,883 So none of this is admissible in court? 717 00:30:36,927 --> 00:30:38,842 We'll find a way to get it in. 718 00:30:38,885 --> 00:30:42,323 The point is we suddenly have another credible suspect 719 00:30:42,367 --> 00:30:44,586 and a very credible motive. 720 00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:46,284 Nice work, you two. 721 00:30:47,372 --> 00:30:49,156 We might actually be back in the game. 722 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,375 Speaking of which, 723 00:30:50,418 --> 00:30:52,203 there's a shot I might be out of here 724 00:30:52,246 --> 00:30:53,900 by the end of the day tomorrow. 725 00:30:53,944 --> 00:30:56,947 If you think it might be helpful for me to step in, 726 00:30:56,990 --> 00:30:59,079 maybe put together a closing argument. 727 00:31:01,212 --> 00:31:03,127 Hey, that's great to hear, Benny. 728 00:31:03,170 --> 00:31:04,911 Let us know 729 00:31:04,955 --> 00:31:07,522 when and if that happens. 730 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:09,916 In the meantime, we are due back in court 731 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,222 tomorrow right after lunch. 732 00:31:11,265 --> 00:31:13,006 Danny, Taylor, 733 00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:15,966 you guys continue to drill down on this tomorrow morning. 734 00:31:16,009 --> 00:31:17,315 Of course.Will do. 735 00:31:17,358 --> 00:31:18,925 Nice work, everybody. 736 00:31:18,969 --> 00:31:21,406 Talk tomorrow, Benny. I got to get home to the girls. 737 00:31:21,449 --> 00:31:23,625 [hangs up]Now let's get out of here. 738 00:31:40,991 --> 00:31:42,993 Good morning.From your lips. 739 00:31:43,036 --> 00:31:44,864 Can I ask you a question?The answer's no. 740 00:31:44,908 --> 00:31:46,387 But you haven't heard my question yet. 741 00:31:46,431 --> 00:31:49,042 What, you want to know if I'm gonna yank you off the case 742 00:31:49,086 --> 00:31:51,523 and let Benny finish it up?And? 743 00:31:51,566 --> 00:31:54,308 And, as I said, as of now, the answer's no. 744 00:31:55,657 --> 00:31:58,138 Thanks. I appreciate it.Well, I'm not doing it for you. 745 00:31:58,182 --> 00:31:59,313 I have a professional responsibility 746 00:31:59,357 --> 00:32:01,359 to do what's best for my client, 747 00:32:01,402 --> 00:32:03,187 and right now what's best is you. 748 00:32:03,230 --> 00:32:04,492 You know more, 749 00:32:04,536 --> 00:32:06,842 and you have a deeper understanding than Benny. 750 00:32:06,886 --> 00:32:08,192 Plus... 751 00:32:08,235 --> 00:32:10,672 you have more to lose if we don't prevail, and... 752 00:32:10,716 --> 00:32:12,283 more to gain if we do. 753 00:32:12,326 --> 00:32:14,502 And if any of that should change... 754 00:32:14,546 --> 00:32:16,113 It won't. 755 00:32:16,156 --> 00:32:17,549 Excellent. 756 00:32:21,292 --> 00:32:22,771 We have a problem. 757 00:32:23,816 --> 00:32:25,339 What? With our new suspect? 758 00:32:25,383 --> 00:32:26,601 Our new motive? 759 00:32:26,645 --> 00:32:28,038 Kinda sorta both. 760 00:32:28,081 --> 00:32:31,041 Celeste Zabinski, Daniel Zabinski's mother-- 761 00:32:31,084 --> 00:32:34,522 she was never fired from Terrence Cahill's firm. 762 00:32:34,566 --> 00:32:36,089 What, she quit? 763 00:32:36,133 --> 00:32:37,569 No, it's worse than that. 764 00:32:37,612 --> 00:32:39,440 She never actually worked 765 00:32:39,484 --> 00:32:41,355 at Terrence Cahill's accounting firm. 766 00:32:41,399 --> 00:32:44,402 Yesterday you told us she was on the payroll for 18 years. 767 00:32:44,445 --> 00:32:45,533 She was on the payroll. 768 00:32:45,577 --> 00:32:47,013 But this morning I found out 769 00:32:47,057 --> 00:32:49,276 that nobody at that firm has ever heard of her. 770 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,495 Not Terrence's number two, 771 00:32:50,538 --> 00:32:52,279 who's been running it since his stroke. 772 00:32:52,323 --> 00:32:54,455 Not the head of HR. No one. 773 00:32:54,499 --> 00:32:56,327 The woman is a ghost. 774 00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:59,504 Celeste was on the payroll for 18 years? 775 00:32:59,547 --> 00:33:02,594 And how old is her son, our suspect, Daniel? 776 00:33:02,637 --> 00:33:05,031 [chuckles softly] 18 years old. 777 00:33:05,075 --> 00:33:06,467 Hmm. 778 00:33:06,511 --> 00:33:08,339 And no one finds that interesting? 779 00:33:08,382 --> 00:33:10,123 Have you ever heard 780 00:33:10,167 --> 00:33:12,430 of Celeste Zabinski? 781 00:33:12,473 --> 00:33:13,431 VIVIAN: No. Never. 782 00:33:13,474 --> 00:33:14,780 Who is she? 783 00:33:14,823 --> 00:33:16,347 What about Daniel Zabinski? 784 00:33:17,391 --> 00:33:19,480 No. Sorry, who are these people 785 00:33:19,524 --> 00:33:21,830 and what do they have to do with me? 786 00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:24,355 The short version is we think we may have found 787 00:33:24,398 --> 00:33:26,270 the person who killed your father. 788 00:33:28,315 --> 00:33:30,056 Which one? 789 00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,711 The man or the woman? 790 00:33:32,754 --> 00:33:36,410 And... why would one of them want to kill my dad? 791 00:33:36,454 --> 00:33:38,978 We're talking about Daniel. 792 00:33:39,022 --> 00:33:40,762 And I... 793 00:33:40,806 --> 00:33:44,592 strongly suspect that your father, Terrence... 794 00:33:44,636 --> 00:33:46,855 was his father, too. 795 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,164 This is Daniel. 796 00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:53,384 Oh, my God. 797 00:33:53,427 --> 00:33:56,430 Yeah, he looks just like my dad at that age. 798 00:33:56,474 --> 00:33:58,650 One of my investigators discovered 799 00:33:58,693 --> 00:34:01,087 that your father had been paying Daniel's mother 800 00:34:01,131 --> 00:34:03,481 through his company for the last 18 years, 801 00:34:03,524 --> 00:34:05,265 and those payments stopped 802 00:34:05,309 --> 00:34:07,006 on Daniel's 18th birthday. 803 00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:09,139 Of course, we don't have any definitive proof 804 00:34:09,182 --> 00:34:11,141 that Terrence is Daniel's father. 805 00:34:11,184 --> 00:34:13,360 There's no father listed on Daniel's birth certificate. 806 00:34:13,404 --> 00:34:15,406 We were hoping maybe there was something 807 00:34:15,449 --> 00:34:18,322 you could remember that could help us. 808 00:34:19,366 --> 00:34:20,933 Uh, I-I don't know. 809 00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:22,326 I just... 810 00:34:22,369 --> 00:34:24,980 [sighs] I can't believe this. 811 00:34:27,244 --> 00:34:29,376 You said he was 18? 812 00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:30,421 Mm. 813 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:33,250 I do remember my parents 814 00:34:33,293 --> 00:34:35,339 going through a really rough patch. 815 00:34:35,382 --> 00:34:37,254 I was about 14, I think. 816 00:34:37,297 --> 00:34:39,517 That would have been about 18 years ago. 817 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,954 They were fighting all the time. 818 00:34:41,997 --> 00:34:44,435 They even stopped sleeping in the same bed. 819 00:34:45,479 --> 00:34:48,482 Maybe my mom found out. 820 00:34:48,526 --> 00:34:50,397 I guess we'll never know. 821 00:34:50,441 --> 00:34:52,921 You were never aware of him disappearing, 822 00:34:52,965 --> 00:34:55,968 maybe to go spend some time with Daniel? 823 00:34:56,011 --> 00:34:58,275 Or... Daniel's mother? 824 00:34:58,318 --> 00:34:59,885 No. 825 00:34:59,928 --> 00:35:02,366 I truly doubt my dad was in this kid's life 826 00:35:02,409 --> 00:35:04,629 beyond paying his mom. 827 00:35:04,672 --> 00:35:08,633 And if he was, I certainly wasn't aware of it. 828 00:35:09,895 --> 00:35:12,550 I guess we could subpoena Daniel, make him testify. 829 00:35:12,593 --> 00:35:14,552 But everything that we have on him is circumstantial. 830 00:35:14,595 --> 00:35:16,162 Where did Danny say he works? 831 00:35:16,206 --> 00:35:18,382 Coffee shop in Queens. Why, what are you thinking? 832 00:35:18,425 --> 00:35:20,775 I'm thinking maybe Danny should go get herself a cappuccino 833 00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:23,691 and we should ask the judge for a two-day continuance. 834 00:35:24,692 --> 00:35:26,433 [car door opens] 835 00:35:26,477 --> 00:35:27,782 [sighs] 836 00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:29,349 No Benny? 837 00:35:29,393 --> 00:35:31,482 No. He's home. 838 00:35:31,525 --> 00:35:34,572 But, uh, he's not feeling 100%. 839 00:35:34,615 --> 00:35:36,791 Besides, I think he knows you got this. 840 00:35:38,576 --> 00:35:41,535 He did want me to give you a message, though. 841 00:35:41,579 --> 00:35:44,103 He wanted me to tell you 842 00:35:44,147 --> 00:35:47,672 don't make the mistake of crucifying this witness. 843 00:35:47,715 --> 00:35:50,544 You show some compassion, 844 00:35:50,588 --> 00:35:53,112 you might just get some back. 845 00:35:53,156 --> 00:35:54,592 Got it. 846 00:35:55,636 --> 00:35:56,768 Your Honor, the defense calls 847 00:35:56,811 --> 00:35:59,292 Daniel Zabinski to the stand. 848 00:36:10,912 --> 00:36:12,871 Mr. Zabinski... 849 00:36:12,914 --> 00:36:13,828 this security video footage 850 00:36:13,872 --> 00:36:17,180 was taken January 17 at 8:43 a.m. 851 00:36:17,223 --> 00:36:20,313 in a Greenwich, Connecticut, convenience store 852 00:36:20,357 --> 00:36:22,620 20 minutes before Terrence Cahill was killed 853 00:36:22,663 --> 00:36:24,535 a few blocks away. 854 00:36:27,799 --> 00:36:29,235 That's you. 855 00:36:29,279 --> 00:36:30,802 Isn't it, Mr. Zabinski? 856 00:36:30,845 --> 00:36:32,151 Buying cigarettes? 857 00:36:33,979 --> 00:36:35,372 Before you answer, you should know 858 00:36:35,415 --> 00:36:36,808 that we have your signature 859 00:36:36,851 --> 00:36:38,810 on the debit card transaction record 860 00:36:38,853 --> 00:36:40,855 that you signed when you purchased. 861 00:36:43,771 --> 00:36:45,164 Okay. 862 00:36:45,208 --> 00:36:46,644 Okay? 863 00:36:47,862 --> 00:36:50,865 Does okay mean yes or does okay mean no? 864 00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:53,477 Okay, yes, I guess that's me. 865 00:36:55,305 --> 00:36:57,872 And can you tell the jury where you live? 866 00:36:57,916 --> 00:37:00,788 With my mother at my aunt's apartment 867 00:37:00,832 --> 00:37:03,269 in Forest Hills. Queens. 868 00:37:03,313 --> 00:37:05,837 And do you know how far Greenwich, Connecticut, is 869 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,317 from where you live? 870 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,536 You mean in miles? No. 871 00:37:10,624 --> 00:37:13,453 Well, I mean, can you give the jury an idea 872 00:37:13,497 --> 00:37:16,761 of how long it took you to get from place to another? 873 00:37:16,804 --> 00:37:18,371 I don't know. 874 00:37:18,415 --> 00:37:19,938 Hour, 15, 875 00:37:19,981 --> 00:37:21,331 hour and a half. 876 00:37:21,374 --> 00:37:25,248 I'd subway to Grand Central, train to Greenwich. 877 00:37:25,291 --> 00:37:27,293 And what brought you to Greenwich that day? 878 00:37:27,337 --> 00:37:29,077 A job interview. 879 00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:31,776 Really? A job interview? 880 00:37:31,819 --> 00:37:33,299 That's very helpful. 881 00:37:33,343 --> 00:37:35,040 Well, can you tell us the name 882 00:37:35,083 --> 00:37:37,782 of the company and the person that you interviewed with? 883 00:37:37,825 --> 00:37:39,218 Let me remind you 884 00:37:39,262 --> 00:37:41,351 one more time that you're under oath. 885 00:37:47,357 --> 00:37:49,881 Daniel, have you ever been in court before? 886 00:37:49,924 --> 00:37:50,925 No. 887 00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:52,231 Okay. 888 00:37:52,275 --> 00:37:54,277 Do you know what perjury is? 889 00:37:55,408 --> 00:37:57,280 It's when you say something in court 890 00:37:57,323 --> 00:37:58,977 that isn't true. 891 00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:02,285 Do you know what happens to a person who commits perjury? 892 00:38:03,677 --> 00:38:05,070 They go to jail. 893 00:38:06,376 --> 00:38:07,377 So... 894 00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:09,248 now that you know the rules, 895 00:38:09,292 --> 00:38:12,295 why don't we start over again. 896 00:38:12,338 --> 00:38:15,428 What brought you to Greenwich that day? 897 00:38:17,387 --> 00:38:19,389 I needed to speak to someone. 898 00:38:19,432 --> 00:38:21,695 And was that someone your father? 899 00:38:23,393 --> 00:38:24,568 I don't know. 900 00:38:24,611 --> 00:38:26,526 He might have been. 901 00:38:27,571 --> 00:38:29,137 My mother told me he was. 902 00:38:29,181 --> 00:38:30,400 And was that man's name 903 00:38:30,443 --> 00:38:32,315 Terrence Cahill? 904 00:38:34,534 --> 00:38:35,709 Yes. 905 00:38:35,753 --> 00:38:36,928 [gallery murmuring] 906 00:38:36,971 --> 00:38:38,582 You seeing any action yet? 907 00:38:38,625 --> 00:38:41,236 MARISSA: Not yet.Well, don't touch that dial. 908 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,412 Now I've got 909 00:38:42,455 --> 00:38:44,805 another video to show you. 910 00:38:44,849 --> 00:38:46,851 This was taken the night before last 911 00:38:46,894 --> 00:38:48,940 at the coffee shop that you work at. 912 00:38:48,983 --> 00:38:51,464 That's you right there, isn't it, Daniel? 913 00:38:56,426 --> 00:38:58,515 Yes. 914 00:38:58,558 --> 00:39:01,256 Would it surprise you to learn that your fingerprints, 915 00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:03,389 which were recovered from that coffee mug, 916 00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:06,087 matched the partial fingerprints which were recovered 917 00:39:06,131 --> 00:39:07,872 from the fireplace poker 918 00:39:07,915 --> 00:39:09,917 used to kill Terrence Cahill? 919 00:39:09,961 --> 00:39:11,354 [gallery murmuring] 920 00:39:14,487 --> 00:39:18,099 Why don't you tell the jury what really happened, Daniel. 921 00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:26,369 I just wanted to talk to him. 922 00:39:28,153 --> 00:39:31,199 I just wanted to ask him to give my mom a little bit more money. 923 00:39:32,723 --> 00:39:34,464 She told me he'd been giving us money for years 924 00:39:34,507 --> 00:39:36,422 but all of a sudden he stopped. 925 00:39:36,466 --> 00:39:39,904 She told me where he lived, so I just... went there. 926 00:39:40,948 --> 00:39:42,950 And when I saw the house... 927 00:39:43,995 --> 00:39:46,214 I mean, it's this... 928 00:39:46,258 --> 00:39:48,608 big... house. 929 00:39:50,915 --> 00:39:53,613 Anyway, I rang the bell, but no one answered. 930 00:39:53,657 --> 00:39:56,355 So then I just went around back. 931 00:39:57,922 --> 00:39:59,532 And there he was. 932 00:39:59,576 --> 00:40:02,361 Just sitting there. 933 00:40:02,405 --> 00:40:04,929 So I just asked him. 934 00:40:04,972 --> 00:40:08,019 Asked him if he cared about me. 935 00:40:08,062 --> 00:40:10,717 About my mom. 936 00:40:10,761 --> 00:40:13,720 Mostly about her, because she struggles. 937 00:40:13,764 --> 00:40:15,461 She cries a lot. 938 00:40:15,505 --> 00:40:17,768 Spends the day in bed smoking cigarettes. 939 00:40:17,811 --> 00:40:19,944 She's got bad depression. 940 00:40:19,987 --> 00:40:21,946 But a lot of the time she has to take her meds. 941 00:40:21,989 --> 00:40:24,252 Either she forgets or we can't afford them. 942 00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:29,083 I just went there to speak to him. 943 00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:30,868 I didn't want anything else from him. 944 00:40:30,911 --> 00:40:32,913 I didn't want him to be my dad or anything. 945 00:40:34,959 --> 00:40:36,917 And did he give you any money? 946 00:40:36,961 --> 00:40:39,877 Did he say he would give you or your mom some money? 947 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,400 No. 948 00:40:41,444 --> 00:40:44,011 And is that why you hit him with that fireplace poker? 949 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:57,590 He said something, right? 950 00:40:57,634 --> 00:40:59,810 We've heard he can be a very, 951 00:40:59,853 --> 00:41:01,159 very cruel man. 952 00:41:04,815 --> 00:41:07,470 He said my mom was a lazy freeloader. 953 00:41:08,862 --> 00:41:10,995 He said she was a crazy whore. 954 00:41:11,038 --> 00:41:13,127 Said I was nothing but her bastard child, 955 00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:15,042 and if I didn't leave he would call the police 956 00:41:15,086 --> 00:41:17,088 and put me away for life. 957 00:41:17,131 --> 00:41:19,090 So you grabbed the fireplace poker? 958 00:41:19,133 --> 00:41:22,006 No. He did. 959 00:41:22,049 --> 00:41:23,964 He swung it at me, but he wasn't very strong, 960 00:41:24,008 --> 00:41:26,140 so I just snatched it away from him. 961 00:41:26,184 --> 00:41:28,099 And then he started calling my mother and me 962 00:41:28,142 --> 00:41:29,187 every name in the book. 963 00:41:29,230 --> 00:41:31,232 Cursing, screaming. 964 00:41:33,757 --> 00:41:36,107 So I hit him. 965 00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:37,412 Just once. 966 00:41:40,198 --> 00:41:42,287 Then I just ran away. 967 00:41:47,901 --> 00:41:50,513 I have no more questions for this witness. 968 00:42:04,831 --> 00:42:06,311 Nice work, Mr. Palmer. 969 00:42:06,354 --> 00:42:08,139 Thank you, thank you, Mr. Colón. 970 00:42:08,182 --> 00:42:09,619 Make no mistake, 971 00:42:09,662 --> 00:42:11,838 your words of wisdom this morning really helped. 972 00:42:11,882 --> 00:42:13,187 What words of wisdom? 973 00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:15,407 Yes, indeed. 974 00:42:15,450 --> 00:42:17,627 Witness stand confession in your first murder trial. 975 00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:19,106 That's gonna be tough to top. 976 00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:22,066 Ha. I'm just getting started. What's my next case, boss? 977 00:42:22,109 --> 00:42:24,155 Next case? Slow down there, Perry Mason. 978 00:42:24,198 --> 00:42:26,984 I only came into this life with one appendix, 979 00:42:27,027 --> 00:42:27,985 and it's gone now. 980 00:42:28,028 --> 00:42:29,377 Back to the bullpen. 981 00:42:29,421 --> 00:42:31,031 I don't know. You sound congested. 982 00:42:31,075 --> 00:42:33,077 Doesn't he sound congested to you? 983 00:42:48,222 --> 00:42:54,185 Captioning sponsored by CBS 984 00:42:54,228 --> 00:42:57,231 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 71250

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