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Come on, let me in. 4 00:00:28,685 --> 00:00:30,209 I'm using my spare, 5 00:00:30,252 --> 00:00:32,602 so if you're in the john, close the damn door. 6 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:39,305 Yo, Ryan. 7 00:00:39,348 --> 00:00:42,177 I saw the poster you called me about. 8 00:00:44,527 --> 00:00:46,529 Yo, Ry. 9 00:00:50,664 --> 00:00:53,188 Ryan, where you at?[water running softly] 10 00:00:53,232 --> 00:00:55,930 Ryan, you okay? 11 00:01:01,588 --> 00:01:03,590 You in there? 12 00:01:04,591 --> 00:01:06,506 I'm coming in. 13 00:01:20,476 --> 00:01:22,565 Bull, he's an old friend, a really old friend, 14 00:01:22,609 --> 00:01:23,914 so I need you to be nice. 15 00:01:23,958 --> 00:01:25,090 How long since you've seen him? 16 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:27,266 I don't know. Seven or eight years? 17 00:01:28,615 --> 00:01:30,747 You haven't seen him in seven or eight years? 18 00:01:32,358 --> 00:01:35,230 What's this casual acquaintance's name again? 19 00:01:35,274 --> 00:01:37,232 Stephen. Stephen Raposa. 20 00:01:37,276 --> 00:01:38,320 And Bull, I am pleading with you, 21 00:01:38,364 --> 00:01:39,669 he just lost his younger brother, 22 00:01:39,713 --> 00:01:42,846 so he's really, really fragile. 23 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:44,848 Are you folks familiar with the Back to Nature Wilderness 24 00:01:44,892 --> 00:01:47,155 and Leadership Camp for Boys? 25 00:01:47,199 --> 00:01:49,636 Of course. It's a New York institution. 26 00:01:49,679 --> 00:01:53,248 Peter Maybrook started it, when, the early '90s? 27 00:01:53,292 --> 00:01:54,423 BENNY: Right. 28 00:01:54,467 --> 00:01:56,121 Peter Maybrook. 29 00:01:56,164 --> 00:01:57,948 Made that that fortune with the chain 30 00:01:57,992 --> 00:02:01,126 of upscale sporting goods stores. 31 00:02:01,169 --> 00:02:02,779 Back to Nature. 32 00:02:02,823 --> 00:02:05,173 Now, I knew some kids who went for free. They loved it. 33 00:02:05,217 --> 00:02:07,219 Oh, me, too. Kids from foster care. 34 00:02:07,262 --> 00:02:09,177 I mean, that was his thing, wasn't it? 35 00:02:09,221 --> 00:02:12,789 Paying for at-risk boys to get out of the city and into nature? 36 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:14,965 My brother and I went to that camp. 37 00:02:15,009 --> 00:02:19,144 I understand you recently lost your brother. 38 00:02:19,187 --> 00:02:22,190 Yeah, he took his own life, actually. 39 00:02:22,234 --> 00:02:27,108 He simultaneously overdosed and slit his wrists. 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,158 He told me it was Maybrook. 41 00:02:33,201 --> 00:02:35,508 I'm sorry. What was Maybrook? 42 00:02:35,551 --> 00:02:38,685 He took liberties with my brother. 43 00:02:38,728 --> 00:02:41,383 While he was at that camp. 44 00:02:41,427 --> 00:02:43,385 When he was only 13. 45 00:02:43,429 --> 00:02:45,735 I see. 46 00:02:45,779 --> 00:02:49,870 So you're accusing Peter Maybrook of abuse. 47 00:02:49,913 --> 00:02:51,741 Yes, sir. 48 00:02:51,785 --> 00:02:53,787 And did your brother go to the police? 49 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:55,441 He did. 50 00:02:55,484 --> 00:02:58,792 He waited ten years, but he did it. 51 00:02:58,835 --> 00:03:01,055 And of course, they didn't believe him. 52 00:03:01,098 --> 00:03:03,057 By then, he was a full-blown addict 53 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,712 and you know, addicts lie. 54 00:03:05,755 --> 00:03:09,977 And he had a-a bit of a record. 55 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:14,590 And Maybrook, Maybrook's a-a god in this town. 56 00:03:14,634 --> 00:03:16,070 And this happened, when, 15 years ago? 57 00:03:16,113 --> 00:03:17,985 Yeah, something like that. 58 00:03:18,028 --> 00:03:20,727 And when the police wouldn't do anything, 59 00:03:20,770 --> 00:03:22,250 it drove Ryan even crazier. 60 00:03:22,294 --> 00:03:24,557 He broke into Maybrook's estate, 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,385 he stole everything he could get his hands on. 62 00:03:26,428 --> 00:03:27,908 He was coked out of his mind. 63 00:03:27,951 --> 00:03:29,257 BENNY: Wow. I-- Stephen, 64 00:03:29,301 --> 00:03:30,911 you never told me any of this. 65 00:03:30,954 --> 00:03:34,088 And you're seeking legal counsel because...? 66 00:03:35,742 --> 00:03:38,223 I want to sue. 67 00:03:38,266 --> 00:03:40,137 I want to sue Maybrook. I-I read in the paper 68 00:03:40,181 --> 00:03:42,749 about this new law that New York just passed. 69 00:03:42,792 --> 00:03:45,099 The Child Victims Act.That's right. 70 00:03:45,142 --> 00:03:46,231 Because there's this new law, 71 00:03:46,274 --> 00:03:48,276 there's no statute of limitations. 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,149 Well, it's not that there's no statute of limitations. 73 00:03:52,193 --> 00:03:54,413 What they've done is, for one year only, 74 00:03:54,456 --> 00:03:58,286 instituted something called a "lookback window." 75 00:03:58,330 --> 00:04:02,595 Any victim of child sexual abuse can sue 76 00:04:02,638 --> 00:04:05,119 no matter how long ago the abuse happened. 77 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:06,381 Well, there you go. 78 00:04:06,425 --> 00:04:08,340 BENNY: Uh, the problem is, Mr. Raposa, 79 00:04:08,383 --> 00:04:10,864 I don't think that law applies to you. 80 00:04:10,907 --> 00:04:12,692 Your brother is deceased. 81 00:04:12,735 --> 00:04:15,869 That means we have no standing to sue on his behalf. 82 00:04:15,912 --> 00:04:19,002 Statute of limitations or no statute of limitations. 83 00:04:19,046 --> 00:04:21,788 And there's no, there's no work-around for that? 84 00:04:21,831 --> 00:04:24,617 No. Not really. 85 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:27,141 I'm so sorry, Stephen. 86 00:04:27,184 --> 00:04:29,143 So sorry for all of it. 87 00:04:29,186 --> 00:04:34,453 For not seeing you for so long, for us not being able to help. 88 00:04:34,496 --> 00:04:36,846 Will you call me if there's anything else you need? 89 00:04:36,890 --> 00:04:39,545 Help with funeral arrangements, 90 00:04:39,588 --> 00:04:41,547 anything. 91 00:04:46,595 --> 00:04:48,510 Talk to me. 92 00:04:48,554 --> 00:04:50,469 So I get that we can't sue for Ryan. 93 00:04:50,512 --> 00:04:54,037 Ryan's gone, so we have no standing. 94 00:04:56,736 --> 00:04:58,781 But what about me? 95 00:04:59,826 --> 00:05:01,871 I'm sorry, w-what? 96 00:05:03,699 --> 00:05:05,048 Me. 97 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:09,662 The man molested me, too. 98 00:05:09,705 --> 00:05:12,186 So what about me? 99 00:05:12,229 --> 00:05:15,145 Can we sue on my behalf? 100 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:17,191 ♪ 101 00:05:23,632 --> 00:05:24,764 You okay if I...? Sure. 102 00:05:24,807 --> 00:05:27,288 [beeps] 103 00:05:27,332 --> 00:05:29,595 Thanks for coming in so early. 104 00:05:29,638 --> 00:05:32,337 It's just easier for me to focus on you 105 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:34,861 and your story before the chaos starts. 106 00:05:38,125 --> 00:05:40,867 So, let's begin at the beginning. 107 00:05:40,910 --> 00:05:42,869 How old were you when Peter Maybrook 108 00:05:42,912 --> 00:05:44,958 initiated physical contact? 109 00:05:45,001 --> 00:05:49,441 I was 14. It was the last summer I spent at that camp. 110 00:05:49,484 --> 00:05:52,400 So, let's talk about that summer. 111 00:05:53,923 --> 00:05:58,537 I'm sorry, it's just, for 24 years, I never talked about it. 112 00:05:58,580 --> 00:06:01,409 I never wanted to. Still don't want to. 113 00:06:01,453 --> 00:06:03,280 It's completely understandable. 114 00:06:03,324 --> 00:06:06,458 But you're gonna have to tell the story in front of a jury. 115 00:06:06,501 --> 00:06:10,157 And the best way to prepare for that is here. 116 00:06:12,464 --> 00:06:15,423 Like I said, it was my last summer at that camp. 117 00:06:15,467 --> 00:06:19,775 And they made me a cabin captain. 118 00:06:19,819 --> 00:06:22,038 That was a big honor, it was a big deal. 119 00:06:22,082 --> 00:06:23,431 They only picked 12 boys. 120 00:06:23,475 --> 00:06:27,000 And it meant you got to spend time with Maybrook. 121 00:06:27,043 --> 00:06:29,176 And that was considered a perk? 122 00:06:29,219 --> 00:06:31,221 Oh, yeah. Maybrook, he was, 123 00:06:31,265 --> 00:06:32,571 he was the coolest guy on the planet. 124 00:06:32,614 --> 00:06:34,442 He drove a Mustang, he listened to Aerosmith. 125 00:06:34,486 --> 00:06:37,271 He grew up poor like us but now he was rich. 126 00:06:37,314 --> 00:06:41,057 And being a cabin leader meant he knew your name. 127 00:06:41,101 --> 00:06:42,885 It meant you got to go to this special dinner 128 00:06:42,929 --> 00:06:44,539 at his estate near the camp. 129 00:06:44,583 --> 00:06:47,107 And was that the first time you were alone with him? 130 00:06:47,150 --> 00:06:48,674 At the dinner?No. 131 00:06:48,717 --> 00:06:51,372 No, all 12 of us were there that night. 132 00:06:51,416 --> 00:06:56,203 But a few nights later, his assistant, Lydia, 133 00:06:56,246 --> 00:07:00,033 she came to me and she told me that Maybrook wanted to see me. 134 00:07:00,076 --> 00:07:01,208 Just me. 135 00:07:01,251 --> 00:07:03,863 I was so damn excited. 136 00:07:03,906 --> 00:07:07,910 So that night, did anything happen? 137 00:07:07,954 --> 00:07:10,086 Not really. 138 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:12,741 We watched TV, we talked. 139 00:07:12,785 --> 00:07:14,743 I told him things that I'd never told anyone, 140 00:07:14,787 --> 00:07:18,660 how my dad left, how I took care of my little brother 141 00:07:18,704 --> 00:07:21,750 because my mom was always working. 142 00:07:21,794 --> 00:07:25,493 It sounds like you felt very safe. 143 00:07:25,537 --> 00:07:27,669 Yeah. Very safe. 144 00:07:29,018 --> 00:07:30,498 Then a few nights later, 145 00:07:30,542 --> 00:07:33,545 he invited me back, and then again the following week. 146 00:07:33,588 --> 00:07:35,547 And that was the, that was the first time 147 00:07:35,590 --> 00:07:38,724 I ever saw him drinking. 148 00:07:38,767 --> 00:07:41,814 He was drinking brandy, and he offered me a taste 149 00:07:41,857 --> 00:07:45,208 and it made me feel really cool. 150 00:07:46,253 --> 00:07:48,560 And when did the touching start? 151 00:07:48,603 --> 00:07:50,910 It was gradual. 152 00:07:50,953 --> 00:07:52,520 He kind of snuck up on it, you know? 153 00:07:52,564 --> 00:07:56,045 We'd be talking, and he'd touch my leg or my shoulder. 154 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:03,313 And then, one night... [clears throat] 155 00:08:03,357 --> 00:08:06,142 ...he asked me if I wanted to shower. 156 00:08:06,186 --> 00:08:11,104 Our cabins didn't usually have much hot water, 157 00:08:11,147 --> 00:08:14,455 but his shower, 158 00:08:14,499 --> 00:08:19,155 he'd turn it on and you'd see the steam. 159 00:08:21,418 --> 00:08:24,509 Did he get in the shower with you? 160 00:08:24,552 --> 00:08:27,033 Yeah. 161 00:08:27,076 --> 00:08:29,035 He got close. 162 00:08:29,078 --> 00:08:31,690 And then, the next thing I knew, he was touching me. 163 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:33,213 Wanting me to touch him. 164 00:08:33,256 --> 00:08:34,693 [sniffles] 165 00:08:34,736 --> 00:08:40,263 But I didn't want to, so he-he kind of got behind me. 166 00:08:42,265 --> 00:08:44,572 Forced himself on me. 167 00:08:46,618 --> 00:08:48,445 [exhales] 168 00:08:48,489 --> 00:08:51,797 And I wanted to stop him, 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,495 but he was a lot bigger than me, 170 00:08:54,539 --> 00:08:58,368 and I felt like I couldn't move. 171 00:09:01,197 --> 00:09:02,982 And I don't really remember the rest. 172 00:09:03,025 --> 00:09:06,202 It's kind of like my mind left my body. 173 00:09:08,857 --> 00:09:14,036 Although I do remember counting the tiles. 174 00:09:16,082 --> 00:09:18,040 182. 175 00:09:19,128 --> 00:09:21,653 Did you ever tell anyone about this? 176 00:09:21,696 --> 00:09:23,655 No. 177 00:09:23,698 --> 00:09:27,746 I think I kind of thought it was my fault. 178 00:09:27,789 --> 00:09:31,445 Like, if I'd never taken that brandy 179 00:09:31,488 --> 00:09:35,710 or if I said something the first time he touched my leg... 180 00:09:38,583 --> 00:09:41,890 And then, two years later, 181 00:09:41,934 --> 00:09:45,285 m-my mom sent Ryan to that camp. 182 00:09:48,984 --> 00:09:51,596 I still never said a word. 183 00:09:52,945 --> 00:09:54,903 MARISSA: My last big project at Homeland 184 00:09:54,947 --> 00:09:59,038 was coordinating logistics after Hurricane Sandy. 185 00:09:59,081 --> 00:10:02,389 They actually pulled a bunch of us from counterterrorism 186 00:10:02,432 --> 00:10:03,869 to work with the National Guard. 187 00:10:03,912 --> 00:10:05,871 Stephen was a sergeant. 188 00:10:05,914 --> 00:10:08,308 He was in charge of a team of Army mechanics. 189 00:10:08,351 --> 00:10:10,049 Wreckage everyone else said was too dangerous, 190 00:10:10,092 --> 00:10:11,877 Stephen found a way to search it. 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,313 Pretty amazing guy. 192 00:10:13,356 --> 00:10:16,142 And you two became friends? 193 00:10:16,185 --> 00:10:17,534 More like war buddies. 194 00:10:17,578 --> 00:10:19,449 I was going through my first divorce, 195 00:10:19,493 --> 00:10:22,061 he was going through one of his own. 196 00:10:22,104 --> 00:10:25,673 Neither one of us was really looking for a new friend. 197 00:10:25,717 --> 00:10:28,284 But like war buddies, we always stayed in touch. 198 00:10:28,328 --> 00:10:31,157 Well, for what it's worth, I did a little background check 199 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,680 on your friend. 200 00:10:32,724 --> 00:10:34,769 And I have to say, he doesn't read 201 00:10:34,813 --> 00:10:37,076 like a trauma survivor at all. 202 00:10:37,119 --> 00:10:39,774 Near as I can tell, he doesn't have any issues with alcohol, 203 00:10:39,818 --> 00:10:42,124 drugs, anger management. 204 00:10:42,168 --> 00:10:45,301 He passed all his Army mental health reviews. 205 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:48,740 Which brings me to the ugly question of the day. 206 00:10:48,783 --> 00:10:50,916 You think he was actually molested? 207 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:52,526 Excuse me? 208 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:56,443 I'm just saying, he never mentioned it to anyone 209 00:10:56,486 --> 00:10:58,706 until yesterday when we told him that he couldn't sue 210 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:00,969 on his brother's behalf, 211 00:11:01,013 --> 00:11:04,059 and then out of the blue, "Well, it happened to me, too." 212 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:07,410 No. Bull spent time with him this morning, 213 00:11:07,454 --> 00:11:08,890 and he is 100% on board. 214 00:11:08,934 --> 00:11:10,849 CHUNK: Well, I defer 215 00:11:10,892 --> 00:11:13,460 to the man with all the doctorates. 216 00:11:13,503 --> 00:11:14,896 He have a plan? 217 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:19,640 He thinks our best bet-- our only bet-- 218 00:11:19,684 --> 00:11:22,208 is to establish a pattern of conduct. 219 00:11:22,251 --> 00:11:24,732 He need us to go through old camp records 220 00:11:24,776 --> 00:11:27,082 and reach out to former campers 221 00:11:27,126 --> 00:11:29,998 with profiles that are similar to Ryan's and Stephen's 222 00:11:30,042 --> 00:11:32,131 and see if any of them are willing 223 00:11:32,174 --> 00:11:34,133 to come forward and testify. 224 00:11:34,176 --> 00:11:36,004 After spending almost a quarter of a century 225 00:11:36,048 --> 00:11:38,267 not telling anybody, 226 00:11:38,311 --> 00:11:41,618 yeah, that sounds like an easy sell. 227 00:11:43,577 --> 00:11:45,100 Well, we split up the potential witness lists. 228 00:11:45,144 --> 00:11:47,233 And I've been reaching out to former camp staffers. 229 00:11:47,276 --> 00:11:48,756 The thing is, everyone I talked to 230 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,280 had nothing but nice things to say about Maybrook. 231 00:11:51,324 --> 00:11:54,283 Turns out he had an unwritten policy, 232 00:11:54,327 --> 00:11:55,763 not a single seasonal employee 233 00:11:55,807 --> 00:11:57,634 was brought back from one year to the next. 234 00:11:57,678 --> 00:11:58,984 BULL: Makes sense. 235 00:11:59,027 --> 00:12:01,116 That way no one would've been around long enough 236 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,597 to suspect him of bad behavior. 237 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,556 As it turns out, the only adult who was there year in, year out 238 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,863 was Maybrook's assistant Lydia, 239 00:12:08,907 --> 00:12:10,691 who I had the pleasure of speaking to. 240 00:12:10,735 --> 00:12:12,911 And let me guess, she wouldn't talk to you? 241 00:12:12,954 --> 00:12:14,347 Oh, she talked. 242 00:12:14,390 --> 00:12:16,305 Told me she worked for him for almost two decades, 243 00:12:16,349 --> 00:12:18,220 told me she worshipped the ground he walked on, 244 00:12:18,264 --> 00:12:19,918 told me I should be ashamed of myself, 245 00:12:19,961 --> 00:12:21,484 and then she hung up on me. 246 00:12:21,528 --> 00:12:23,530 Yeah, that sounds about right. 247 00:12:23,573 --> 00:12:26,533 Chunk and I spent the day reaching out to former campers. 248 00:12:26,576 --> 00:12:27,795 Oh, how did that go? 249 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:30,189 Well, we focused primarily on cabin leaders, 250 00:12:30,232 --> 00:12:32,321 ones without strong family support systems, 251 00:12:32,365 --> 00:12:35,107 kids who, on paper, looked to be attractive targets 252 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:37,239 for Maybrook and bore some physical similarity 253 00:12:37,283 --> 00:12:38,501 to the Raposa brothers. 254 00:12:38,545 --> 00:12:39,633 And? 255 00:12:39,676 --> 00:12:41,069 And it turns out, 256 00:12:41,113 --> 00:12:43,115 asking people to dredge up a painful past 257 00:12:43,158 --> 00:12:44,464 doesn't make you very popular. 258 00:12:44,507 --> 00:12:45,813 CHUNK: I mean, there were definitely 259 00:12:45,857 --> 00:12:48,685 people who had nothing but wonderful things to say, 260 00:12:48,729 --> 00:12:50,600 and then there were others. 261 00:12:50,644 --> 00:12:52,820 I had a couple of doors slammed in my face, 262 00:12:52,864 --> 00:12:54,343 people cursing me out, 263 00:12:54,387 --> 00:12:57,694 saying, "How dare you come here asking questions like that?" 264 00:12:57,738 --> 00:13:01,002 And I got to say, it's hard to know if their indignation 265 00:13:01,046 --> 00:13:03,962 was righteous, or if they were people 266 00:13:04,005 --> 00:13:06,181 who just didn't want to remember, 267 00:13:06,225 --> 00:13:08,096 didn't want to be reminded. 268 00:13:08,140 --> 00:13:10,795 My guess would be a little bit of both.BENNY: That's great. 269 00:13:10,838 --> 00:13:13,406 So the response prove, or at least suggest, 270 00:13:13,449 --> 00:13:14,842 this guy is guilty, 271 00:13:14,886 --> 00:13:16,757 but we have no one besides our client 272 00:13:16,801 --> 00:13:19,760 that will get up there and say that to the jury. 273 00:13:19,804 --> 00:13:22,894 Well, I didn't say no one. 274 00:13:22,937 --> 00:13:24,417 Alan Coleman 275 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:27,463 went to the camp a few years after Ryan and Stephen. 276 00:13:27,507 --> 00:13:29,422 He's, uh, an architect in New Jersey. 277 00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:31,206 Didn't want to talk on the phone, 278 00:13:31,250 --> 00:13:33,730 but he implied he had a story to tell. 279 00:13:33,774 --> 00:13:37,256 Well, that's a beginning. 280 00:13:39,127 --> 00:13:41,738 Uh, I remember we watched 281 00:13:41,782 --> 00:13:45,307 the 1996 Summer Olympics earlier that night. 282 00:13:45,351 --> 00:13:47,570 Michael Johnson won both the 283 00:13:47,614 --> 00:13:51,618 200 meter and the 400 meter sprint, and we both thought 284 00:13:51,661 --> 00:13:53,707 it was great and kind of funny 285 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:56,884 because he was wearing these golden shoes. 286 00:13:56,928 --> 00:13:59,060 Gold medal. Gold shoes. 287 00:13:59,104 --> 00:14:01,323 We laughed about it a lot. 288 00:14:01,367 --> 00:14:04,544 And then, uh, an hour later, 289 00:14:04,587 --> 00:14:07,242 I was standing in the shower, 290 00:14:07,286 --> 00:14:11,072 my face to the wall, 291 00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:13,945 wishing that I had these golden shoes, 292 00:14:13,988 --> 00:14:18,340 wishing that I had these shoes so that I could run away. 293 00:14:19,907 --> 00:14:22,301 Plus, I heard that 294 00:14:22,344 --> 00:14:23,998 he was working with kids again. 295 00:14:24,042 --> 00:14:26,087 BENNY: Mr. Raposa, 296 00:14:26,131 --> 00:14:30,178 given everything you've described, 297 00:14:30,222 --> 00:14:32,920 everything you testified to, 298 00:14:32,964 --> 00:14:36,837 why'd you keep it all to yourself all these years? 299 00:14:36,881 --> 00:14:38,273 If that man 300 00:14:38,317 --> 00:14:41,711 did all the terrible things you just testified to, 301 00:14:41,755 --> 00:14:43,365 why not expose him? 302 00:14:43,409 --> 00:14:45,498 My brother Ryan tried. 303 00:14:45,541 --> 00:14:49,502 He told the truth over and over. He went to the authorities. 304 00:14:49,545 --> 00:14:51,199 He went to anybody who would listen, 305 00:14:51,243 --> 00:14:52,679 and a lot of people who wouldn't, 306 00:14:52,722 --> 00:14:56,465 but nothing changed, and it ruined his life. 307 00:14:56,509 --> 00:14:59,164 So if you didn't talk to anybody, 308 00:14:59,207 --> 00:15:02,950 didn't go the authorities, didn't seek out therapy, 309 00:15:02,994 --> 00:15:04,299 what did you do? 310 00:15:04,343 --> 00:15:07,302 I handled it in my own way, I guess. 311 00:15:07,346 --> 00:15:09,826 I bulked up, I joined the army right out of high school. 312 00:15:09,870 --> 00:15:12,481 I-I figured if I could make myself a-a tough guy, 313 00:15:12,525 --> 00:15:16,137 nobody would ever take advantage of me again. 314 00:15:16,181 --> 00:15:20,925 I got out of the service, I... 315 00:15:20,968 --> 00:15:25,190 married a wonderful woman, bought a little house. 316 00:15:25,233 --> 00:15:28,193 I was determined to live a normal life, 317 00:15:28,236 --> 00:15:30,238 despite what Maybrook did to me. 318 00:15:30,282 --> 00:15:31,936 And did that work? 319 00:15:31,979 --> 00:15:34,677 Well, I thought pretty well at first. 320 00:15:34,721 --> 00:15:35,983 And then my wife wanted kids, 321 00:15:36,027 --> 00:15:37,680 and I couldn't tell her why I didn't. 322 00:15:37,724 --> 00:15:39,726 I couldn't tell her that I was afraid 323 00:15:39,769 --> 00:15:41,336 that I wouldn't be able to protect them, 324 00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:43,556 the way that I couldn't protect my brother. 325 00:15:43,599 --> 00:15:45,514 Objection. Relevance? 326 00:15:45,558 --> 00:15:46,689 McNEIL: Overruled. 327 00:15:46,733 --> 00:15:49,083 You may continue. 328 00:15:49,127 --> 00:15:52,695 I don't know what else to say. 329 00:15:52,739 --> 00:15:55,742 I thought I was fine, and then one day, 330 00:15:55,785 --> 00:15:58,136 I realized that I was totally alone. 331 00:15:58,179 --> 00:16:01,530 I'd lost everything. I lost my-my wife, 332 00:16:01,574 --> 00:16:03,271 my brother. 333 00:16:03,315 --> 00:16:05,230 BENNY: Thank you. 334 00:16:05,273 --> 00:16:07,841 No further questions, Your Honor. 335 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:13,064 GROSSMAN: Mr. Raposa, 336 00:16:13,107 --> 00:16:16,067 do you know a man by the name of Morton Clemmons? 337 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:18,591 STEPHEN: Mo Clemmons? Yeah. 338 00:16:18,634 --> 00:16:20,462 Yeah, sure. I know him. 339 00:16:20,506 --> 00:16:22,725 He is a loan officer, isn't he? 340 00:16:22,769 --> 00:16:25,424 Have you ever approached him about a loan? 341 00:16:25,467 --> 00:16:27,295 Objection. Relevance? 342 00:16:27,339 --> 00:16:28,601 GROSSMAN: Uh, Your Honor, 343 00:16:28,644 --> 00:16:31,734 the witness testified that he suddenly decided 344 00:16:31,778 --> 00:16:33,432 to tell this story about my client 345 00:16:33,475 --> 00:16:35,042 because of a change in the law. 346 00:16:35,086 --> 00:16:38,350 I intend to prove that there is, in fact, 347 00:16:38,393 --> 00:16:40,439 another reason for his suit. 348 00:16:40,482 --> 00:16:43,703 I'll allow. The witness will answer the question. 349 00:16:43,746 --> 00:16:46,532 STEPHEN: Yes, I applied for a loan at the bank, 350 00:16:46,575 --> 00:16:47,881 and he was the loan officer, 351 00:16:47,924 --> 00:16:49,883 yes. In fact, 352 00:16:49,926 --> 00:16:53,887 you borrowed $15,000, didn't you? 353 00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:57,282 Yes. I retired from the service a year ago. 354 00:16:57,325 --> 00:16:59,066 I wanted a change of pace. 355 00:16:59,110 --> 00:17:00,763 I wanted to see my brother more often, 356 00:17:00,807 --> 00:17:03,288 so I bought a body shop with my savings, 357 00:17:03,331 --> 00:17:06,073 but the equipment, 358 00:17:06,117 --> 00:17:08,597 it needed some upgrades, so... 359 00:17:08,641 --> 00:17:11,078 So you borrowed $15,000 360 00:17:11,122 --> 00:17:14,255 and you have not been able to make those payments 361 00:17:14,299 --> 00:17:16,431 in a timely fashion, have you? 362 00:17:16,475 --> 00:17:18,999 Well, I think I have, mostly. 363 00:17:21,567 --> 00:17:23,569 The last 90 days, it's been tricky. 364 00:17:23,612 --> 00:17:25,962 My-my brother didn't have insurance, so I had to pay 365 00:17:26,006 --> 00:17:29,227 for his last round of rehab, plus the funeral. 366 00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:31,620 I have alimony payments. 367 00:17:31,664 --> 00:17:33,622 The bank threatened to repossess your shop, didn't they? 368 00:17:36,277 --> 00:17:39,454 Do you recognize these e-mails 369 00:17:39,498 --> 00:17:42,283 between you and Mr. Clemmons? 370 00:17:42,327 --> 00:17:44,807 Sure. Yeah. 371 00:17:44,851 --> 00:17:47,506 And would you read the last one for me, 372 00:17:47,549 --> 00:17:50,944 the one sent on the very morning you filed 373 00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:53,120 this lawsuit? 374 00:17:53,164 --> 00:17:55,035 "Seriously, no need for the repo talk. 375 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:57,994 "I have a plan. I'll have the funds by the end of the month, 376 00:17:58,038 --> 00:17:59,126 guaranteed." 377 00:17:59,170 --> 00:18:02,869 "By the end of the month, guaranteed." 378 00:18:02,912 --> 00:18:07,091 Where was this cash going to come from, Mr. Raposa? 379 00:18:07,134 --> 00:18:08,657 My client? 380 00:18:08,701 --> 00:18:11,878 Was your plan to slander Mr. Maybrook 381 00:18:11,921 --> 00:18:13,619 so that you could get your hands 382 00:18:13,662 --> 00:18:15,534 on the money you needed? 383 00:18:15,577 --> 00:18:18,014 No, of course not. 384 00:18:18,058 --> 00:18:21,670 I was going to sell some machinery, maybe, 385 00:18:21,714 --> 00:18:24,151 or maybe try to borrow 386 00:18:24,195 --> 00:18:26,893 a loan against my army pension. 387 00:18:26,936 --> 00:18:29,765 Try? Maybe? 388 00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:32,855 Sounds very different from the "guarantee" 389 00:18:32,899 --> 00:18:34,857 you promise in that e-mail. 390 00:18:34,901 --> 00:18:38,644 I was buying time, so I exaggerated a little. 391 00:18:38,687 --> 00:18:40,036 Oh, you exaggerated a little? 392 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,431 [gasps] You exaggerated. 393 00:18:43,475 --> 00:18:46,217 Turns out he exaggerated, ladies and gentlemen, 394 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:50,134 misrepresented the truth so that he could get what he wanted. 395 00:18:50,177 --> 00:18:54,442 I wonder what else he has misrepresented here today. 396 00:18:54,486 --> 00:18:55,965 Objection.MCNEIL: Sustained. 397 00:18:56,009 --> 00:18:57,750 Jury will disregard. 398 00:18:57,793 --> 00:18:59,012 Did they? 399 00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:02,015 Nope. Not a one of them. 400 00:19:02,058 --> 00:19:04,191 Every green is gone, Bull. 401 00:19:12,852 --> 00:19:15,507 Suggesting that a man is lying about his being abused 402 00:19:15,550 --> 00:19:18,118 because he has money problems... 403 00:19:18,162 --> 00:19:20,555 How does an attorney put that out there with a straight face? 404 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:22,688 Because, sadly, it works. 405 00:19:22,731 --> 00:19:24,211 Fills the jury with doubt, 406 00:19:24,255 --> 00:19:26,518 and the truth is, we might be employing the same strategy 407 00:19:26,561 --> 00:19:27,780 if we were representing Maybrook. 408 00:19:27,823 --> 00:19:30,696 Except I would never be Maybrook's attorney. 409 00:19:30,739 --> 00:19:32,350 Defend someone who hurts children? 410 00:19:32,393 --> 00:19:35,657 That would never happen. 411 00:19:35,701 --> 00:19:37,442 But it did work, didn't it? 412 00:19:37,485 --> 00:19:39,400 Mm. 413 00:19:39,444 --> 00:19:41,359 Hopefully, Danny's potential witness 414 00:19:41,402 --> 00:19:43,230 will be waiting for us back at the office, 415 00:19:43,274 --> 00:19:46,886 and with any luck, his story will sound enough like Stephen's 416 00:19:46,929 --> 00:19:48,670 to resonate with the jury. 417 00:19:48,714 --> 00:19:51,064 ALAN: It was a couple of nights after the Captain's Dinner. 418 00:19:51,107 --> 00:19:55,199 His assistant Lydia said he wanted to see me. 419 00:19:55,242 --> 00:19:57,244 I can't lie. [chuckles] 420 00:19:57,288 --> 00:19:59,028 I was pretty excited. 421 00:19:59,072 --> 00:20:00,813 Why's that? 422 00:20:00,856 --> 00:20:03,859 'Cause my family was poor and Maybrook wasn't. 423 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:07,254 He had a Sega, he had a PS1, 424 00:20:07,298 --> 00:20:10,910 all these cool cameras, his very own darkroom. 425 00:20:10,953 --> 00:20:13,913 And I had heard sometimes he let kids drink his liquor. 426 00:20:13,956 --> 00:20:15,915 Are you saying he offered you alcohol? 427 00:20:15,958 --> 00:20:17,264 Eventually. 428 00:20:17,308 --> 00:20:18,700 How'd you feel about that? 429 00:20:18,744 --> 00:20:20,354 Thought I'd died and gone to heaven. 430 00:20:20,398 --> 00:20:22,095 [chuckles] 431 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:25,664 My dad was in jail. 432 00:20:25,707 --> 00:20:28,928 I lived with my aunt-- who, between us, 433 00:20:28,971 --> 00:20:32,497 had her own issues with drugs. 434 00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:36,327 Truth is, I remember thinking, "This is pretty good." 435 00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:37,980 BULL: Okay. 436 00:20:38,024 --> 00:20:42,289 Let's go back to the time you spent alone with Mr. Maybrook. 437 00:20:42,333 --> 00:20:43,943 Did he touch you? 438 00:20:43,986 --> 00:20:46,946 Sure. All the time. 439 00:20:46,989 --> 00:20:49,557 At first, it was small stuff. 440 00:20:49,601 --> 00:20:53,866 He'd rub my shoulders, squeeze my arm. 441 00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:55,128 I see. 442 00:20:55,171 --> 00:20:59,785 And did it get more intimate, more sexual? 443 00:21:03,310 --> 00:21:05,312 Yeah. 444 00:21:05,356 --> 00:21:06,879 Of course. 445 00:21:06,922 --> 00:21:08,359 [sighs] 446 00:21:08,402 --> 00:21:11,057 Can you describe these interactions 447 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:12,363 you had with Maybrook? 448 00:21:12,406 --> 00:21:16,062 There was no interaction. 449 00:21:16,105 --> 00:21:18,412 That would imply two people participating. 450 00:21:18,456 --> 00:21:22,198 There was just him getting you drunk, 451 00:21:22,242 --> 00:21:25,550 getting you high, and taking what he wanted. 452 00:21:25,593 --> 00:21:27,552 I know it must be difficult, 453 00:21:27,595 --> 00:21:30,163 but if you could just tell us about that. 454 00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:34,341 What he did, how he did it. 455 00:21:34,385 --> 00:21:36,343 How it felt? 456 00:21:37,518 --> 00:21:39,346 [sighs] 457 00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:42,131 I'm sorry. I know this is really difficult, 458 00:21:42,175 --> 00:21:44,308 and I don't mean to make you uncomfortable, 459 00:21:44,351 --> 00:21:47,615 but it's incredibly important that the jury hear from someone, 460 00:21:47,659 --> 00:21:50,836 anyone, other than our client. 461 00:21:50,879 --> 00:21:54,187 Someone who's been victimized by Maybrook. 462 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:55,884 You understand that? 463 00:21:56,929 --> 00:21:58,017 If we don't ask you, 464 00:21:58,060 --> 00:22:00,367 the other side will. 465 00:22:01,412 --> 00:22:03,414 [sighs] 466 00:22:08,984 --> 00:22:11,291 My wife was right. I'm sorry, I can't. 467 00:22:11,335 --> 00:22:12,901 I-I just can't do this. 468 00:22:12,945 --> 00:22:14,163 Did you think you wouldn't be asked? 469 00:22:14,207 --> 00:22:16,122 I guess I was hoping 470 00:22:16,165 --> 00:22:17,776 it would be good enough if I showed up. 471 00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:20,256 I don't actually think I could go up in front 472 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:22,084 of a courtroom full of people and go into details. 473 00:22:22,128 --> 00:22:23,477 MARISSA: But Alan, 474 00:22:23,521 --> 00:22:25,610 without your testimony, it is our client's word 475 00:22:25,653 --> 00:22:27,699 against Maybrook's. 476 00:22:27,742 --> 00:22:29,744 He doesn't stand a chance. 477 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:33,922 I know. 478 00:22:33,966 --> 00:22:35,402 [exhales] 479 00:22:35,446 --> 00:22:38,100 But if I answer that question, 480 00:22:38,144 --> 00:22:41,930 if I say those things out loud, in court, 481 00:22:41,974 --> 00:22:46,239 in a room full of strangers, 482 00:22:46,282 --> 00:22:48,546 how long before the whole world looks at me 483 00:22:48,589 --> 00:22:51,070 and only sees what happened? 484 00:22:51,113 --> 00:22:54,073 Sees a victim? 485 00:22:54,116 --> 00:22:57,119 Not the success that I've become... 486 00:23:00,471 --> 00:23:03,517 ...but the broken kid I used to be. 487 00:23:06,477 --> 00:23:08,435 The gullible child 488 00:23:08,479 --> 00:23:12,874 Maybrook did horrible things to. 489 00:23:15,007 --> 00:23:16,965 Look, 490 00:23:17,009 --> 00:23:20,752 if it were just me, maybe. 491 00:23:20,795 --> 00:23:24,277 But I have a wife to think about. Kids. 492 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,324 How could I explain all this to my kids? 493 00:23:29,717 --> 00:23:31,415 I'm sorry. I-I wish you and your client 494 00:23:31,458 --> 00:23:32,894 all the luck in the world. 495 00:23:32,938 --> 00:23:35,593 And I'm sorry I wasted your time. 496 00:23:38,639 --> 00:23:40,772 U-Uh, let me walk you out. 497 00:23:46,255 --> 00:23:48,170 Please sit. 498 00:23:48,214 --> 00:23:51,304 Mr. Colón, you may call your next witness. 499 00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:54,481 Uh, Your Honor, the witness we had scheduled 500 00:23:54,525 --> 00:23:56,962 is no longer available to testify at this time. 501 00:23:57,005 --> 00:23:58,790 We request a continuance 502 00:23:58,833 --> 00:24:01,793 in order to secure an adequate replacement. 503 00:24:01,836 --> 00:24:05,100 Due to the backlog on this court's docket, and the fact 504 00:24:05,144 --> 00:24:08,321 that the events at issue here occurred 24 years ago, 505 00:24:08,364 --> 00:24:10,976 I feel this case cannot afford further delay. 506 00:24:11,019 --> 00:24:12,151 I'm denying your request. 507 00:24:12,194 --> 00:24:14,675 BENNY: Uh, respectfully, 508 00:24:14,719 --> 00:24:18,113 Your Honor, though the events of this case happened 509 00:24:18,157 --> 00:24:22,378 a long time ago, the lookback window opened just recently. 510 00:24:22,422 --> 00:24:24,642 We've been working under a condensed time line, 511 00:24:24,685 --> 00:24:26,644 and we had no way of predicting 512 00:24:26,687 --> 00:24:28,994 this turn of events with our witness. 513 00:24:29,037 --> 00:24:31,866 Well-- Be that as it may, do you have any other witnesses 514 00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:34,042 at your disposal at this time? 515 00:24:35,087 --> 00:24:36,480 No, Your Honor. 516 00:24:36,523 --> 00:24:37,916 Ms. Grossman, 517 00:24:37,959 --> 00:24:39,657 is the defense prepared to call its first witness? 518 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,528 We are, Your Honor. 519 00:24:41,572 --> 00:24:44,966 The defense calls Peter Maybrook. 520 00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:47,795 MAYBROOK: The inclination for opening the camp? 521 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:50,145 I think that's pretty clear. 522 00:24:50,189 --> 00:24:52,713 I don't want to bore the jury with my story. 523 00:24:52,757 --> 00:24:55,934 I'm pretty sure that you've heard it before. 524 00:24:55,977 --> 00:25:00,373 But the essence of it is, I grew up in the projects. 525 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:01,548 No dad. 526 00:25:01,592 --> 00:25:03,637 Mom who wouldn't come home 527 00:25:03,681 --> 00:25:05,334 for days at a time. 528 00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:06,858 But when you're growing up, 529 00:25:06,901 --> 00:25:10,644 you don't know that any of that's not normal. 530 00:25:10,688 --> 00:25:11,993 MARISSA [over earbud]: I'm sure I don't need 531 00:25:12,037 --> 00:25:13,778 to tell you, but they love this guy. 532 00:25:13,821 --> 00:25:15,388 MAYBROOK: Anyway, when I was 13, 533 00:25:15,431 --> 00:25:17,782 I was picked to go 534 00:25:17,825 --> 00:25:19,610 to a fresh air camp upstate 535 00:25:19,653 --> 00:25:23,875 for two weeks in the summer. 536 00:25:23,918 --> 00:25:26,747 Changed everything. 537 00:25:26,791 --> 00:25:29,271 Saved my life. 538 00:25:29,315 --> 00:25:31,926 There was a counselor up there who-- 539 00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:34,842 don't ask me why-- he took an interest in me. 540 00:25:34,886 --> 00:25:36,409 I know it's been almost a quarter-century, 541 00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:38,846 but I swear this is word for word the same nonsense 542 00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:41,109 he spewed on the first day of camp. 543 00:25:41,153 --> 00:25:43,503 ...and put me on a horse 544 00:25:43,547 --> 00:25:45,636 [chuckles]: for the first time. 545 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:50,336 And then, after the two weeks was up, he stayed in touch. 546 00:25:50,379 --> 00:25:51,990 Wrote me letters, 547 00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:54,340 called me on the phone, asked me 548 00:25:54,383 --> 00:25:56,516 about school. 549 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,649 Even dropped by once in a while. 550 00:25:58,692 --> 00:26:01,347 Things that nobody else was doing. 551 00:26:01,390 --> 00:26:04,089 The combination of that man, 552 00:26:04,132 --> 00:26:06,700 and that experience gave me 553 00:26:06,744 --> 00:26:12,140 the ability to see a future, which was something 554 00:26:12,184 --> 00:26:14,708 I-I had never really contemplated before. 555 00:26:14,752 --> 00:26:18,712 So when I started experiencing all my success, 556 00:26:18,756 --> 00:26:20,714 I just thought, 557 00:26:20,758 --> 00:26:24,109 I want to recreate that experience for someone else. 558 00:26:24,152 --> 00:26:26,198 I want to give back. 559 00:26:26,241 --> 00:26:28,026 BENNY: Objection! 560 00:26:28,069 --> 00:26:29,549 Relevance, Your Honor. 561 00:26:29,593 --> 00:26:32,639 This is a sexual assault and battery trial, 562 00:26:32,683 --> 00:26:34,119 not a testimonial dinner. 563 00:26:34,162 --> 00:26:35,468 What-what are we listening to here? 564 00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:36,730 GROSSMAN: Your Honor, 565 00:26:36,774 --> 00:26:38,689 the plaintiff and his attorney are painting 566 00:26:38,732 --> 00:26:42,344 Mr. Maybrook's camp like some kind of den of iniquity. 567 00:26:42,388 --> 00:26:44,651 It's only fair that I be...McNEIL: Enough. 568 00:26:44,695 --> 00:26:47,045 Both of you. On this point, I'm finding myself agreeing 569 00:26:47,088 --> 00:26:48,394 with Mr. Colón. 570 00:26:48,437 --> 00:26:51,179 Let's move it along, Ms. Grossman. 571 00:26:51,223 --> 00:26:54,835 Fine. Mr. Maybrook, did you host private dinners 572 00:26:54,879 --> 00:26:57,577 for the cabin captains at your estate? 573 00:26:57,621 --> 00:26:59,535 I did. Yes. 574 00:26:59,579 --> 00:27:02,364 These young men had achieved something. 575 00:27:02,408 --> 00:27:04,671 I felt it was important to show them 576 00:27:04,715 --> 00:27:07,021 that hard work reaped rewards. 577 00:27:07,065 --> 00:27:10,416 The plaintiff has asserted that you invited him back 578 00:27:10,459 --> 00:27:12,766 to your house alone on several occasions. 579 00:27:12,810 --> 00:27:14,376 Is that also true? 580 00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:18,685 It is. You have to remember, this was almost 25 years ago. 581 00:27:18,729 --> 00:27:21,340 The social mores have changed, 582 00:27:21,383 --> 00:27:25,779 but at the time, it wasn't unusual for a responsible adult 583 00:27:25,823 --> 00:27:29,174 to be alone with a young person in his charge. 584 00:27:29,217 --> 00:27:31,698 That all sounds very reasonable to me. 585 00:27:31,742 --> 00:27:35,702 But I would be remiss if I did not ask this question: 586 00:27:35,746 --> 00:27:40,359 Mr. Maybrook, do you have any idea why Mr. Raposa 587 00:27:40,402 --> 00:27:45,277 was able to describe your bathroom in such detail? 588 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,932 What he said about the camper's wash cabins was true. 589 00:27:47,975 --> 00:27:49,934 Their hot water was inconsistent. 590 00:27:49,977 --> 00:27:52,676 So some of the young men would occasionally ask 591 00:27:52,719 --> 00:27:56,244 to use my shower, and I let them. 592 00:27:56,288 --> 00:27:59,378 Maybe-maybe I shouldn't have. 593 00:27:59,421 --> 00:28:01,641 GROSSMAN: And when you allowed one of these campers 594 00:28:01,685 --> 00:28:04,035 to shower in your residence... 595 00:28:05,863 --> 00:28:10,258 ...did you ever have occasion to join them? 596 00:28:10,302 --> 00:28:13,044 Oh...To shower with them? 597 00:28:13,087 --> 00:28:14,480 My God, of course not. 598 00:28:14,523 --> 00:28:17,918 Then how do you account for Mr. Raposa's testimony? 599 00:28:17,962 --> 00:28:20,225 I-I can't, because it simply isn't true. 600 00:28:20,268 --> 00:28:22,140 GROSSMAN: Now, are-are you saying that 601 00:28:22,183 --> 00:28:24,490 you recollect it differently? 602 00:28:24,533 --> 00:28:29,277 Look, I remember Mr. Raposa. 603 00:28:29,321 --> 00:28:33,934 He was a promising young man. 604 00:28:33,978 --> 00:28:37,938 I simply wanted to help him, period. 605 00:28:37,982 --> 00:28:42,856 So it's heartbreaking to hear him lying about me in this way. 606 00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,903 I can only guess that he needs someone to blame 607 00:28:45,946 --> 00:28:48,166 for the way that his life turned out. 608 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:49,994 BENNY: Objection. Witness 609 00:28:50,037 --> 00:28:51,125 is speculating. 610 00:28:51,169 --> 00:28:52,431 Sustained. 611 00:28:52,474 --> 00:28:54,912 The jury will disregard Mr. Maybrook's comments. 612 00:28:54,955 --> 00:28:58,132 GROSSMAN: You say Mr. Raposa is lying. 613 00:28:58,176 --> 00:29:02,136 Why should the jury believe you and not Mr. Raposa? 614 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:05,313 Well, let's start with the fact that I wasn't even there. 615 00:29:05,357 --> 00:29:07,620 GROSSMAN: I'm sorry, how do you mean? 616 00:29:07,663 --> 00:29:10,666 The night that Mr. Raposa keeps referencing, 617 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:13,800 the night that Michael Johnson won the gold in the 400 618 00:29:13,844 --> 00:29:15,671 in the Atlanta Olympics? 619 00:29:15,715 --> 00:29:17,804 I remember it perfectly. 620 00:29:17,848 --> 00:29:23,157 Except it was early morning where I was, in a pub in Dublin, 621 00:29:23,201 --> 00:29:26,813 celebrating a new store opening with my international team. 622 00:29:26,857 --> 00:29:29,990 [gallery murmuring]McNEIL: Order, please. 623 00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:32,514 GROSSMAN: Your Honor, I would like 624 00:29:32,558 --> 00:29:36,867 to enter this stamped passport into evidence, 625 00:29:36,910 --> 00:29:42,176 which documents the fact that Mr. Maybrook was, 626 00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:47,225 in fact, out of the country from mid-July 627 00:29:47,268 --> 00:29:49,531 through early August 1996, 628 00:29:49,575 --> 00:29:54,928 the exact time Mr. Raposa's alleged abuse took place. 629 00:29:54,972 --> 00:29:56,103 So entered. 630 00:29:56,147 --> 00:29:58,105 [gavel bangs] 631 00:30:04,938 --> 00:30:06,853 It just doesn't make sense. Do we believe his passport's real? 632 00:30:06,897 --> 00:30:08,594 He's a rich guy. Maybe...It's real. 633 00:30:08,637 --> 00:30:10,596 Our team authenticated it. 634 00:30:10,639 --> 00:30:13,033 Also found credit card receipts and hotel records. 635 00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:14,992 Maybrook really was in Dublin. 636 00:30:15,035 --> 00:30:17,342 I don't understand. 637 00:30:17,385 --> 00:30:19,692 You know me, Marissa. I-I didn't make this up. 638 00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:20,998 I'm not a liar. 639 00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:23,043 Of course you didn't. Of course you aren't. 640 00:30:23,087 --> 00:30:25,219 Look, I spent years telling people 641 00:30:25,263 --> 00:30:28,048 I met my adoptive mom on my ninth birthday. 642 00:30:28,092 --> 00:30:29,397 Years. 643 00:30:29,441 --> 00:30:32,052 I remembered that day so clearly. 644 00:30:32,096 --> 00:30:33,880 My foster mom threw a plate at my head that morning 645 00:30:33,924 --> 00:30:35,229 because the dishes weren't done. 646 00:30:35,273 --> 00:30:37,231 Got me right here. 647 00:30:37,275 --> 00:30:40,582 Anyway, that afternoon at school, there was cake. 648 00:30:40,626 --> 00:30:44,412 I wished on those candles with all my might for a new family. 649 00:30:44,456 --> 00:30:46,806 And who was at the social worker's office that night 650 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:48,634 but my new mom. 651 00:30:48,677 --> 00:30:50,418 Wow. That's amazing. 652 00:30:50,462 --> 00:30:52,464 It's also not true. 653 00:30:52,507 --> 00:30:54,858 A few years back, I was going through old paperwork, 654 00:30:54,901 --> 00:30:56,947 and realized I hadn't actually met my mom 655 00:30:56,990 --> 00:30:59,123 until I was nearly ten. 656 00:30:59,166 --> 00:31:01,952 Memory. It's malleable. 657 00:31:01,995 --> 00:31:04,476 Especially when it comes to children. 658 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,044 Especially when it comes to trauma. 659 00:31:08,088 --> 00:31:10,003 So what does this mean for my case? 660 00:31:10,047 --> 00:31:11,439 It means we call a rebuttal witness. 661 00:31:11,483 --> 00:31:13,615 It's why we asked for a day's continuance, 662 00:31:13,659 --> 00:31:16,444 so we can line up some experts who can explain to the jury 663 00:31:16,488 --> 00:31:19,621 that PTSD can lead to the repression of some memories 664 00:31:19,665 --> 00:31:22,102 and the conflation of others. 665 00:31:22,146 --> 00:31:24,975 Don't worry. 666 00:31:25,018 --> 00:31:26,977 We'll get through this. 667 00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:28,892 We're not done. 668 00:31:28,935 --> 00:31:31,372 [phone buzzing and chiming] 669 00:31:32,417 --> 00:31:33,940 [sighs]: Oh. 670 00:31:33,984 --> 00:31:35,289 Hallelujah. 671 00:31:35,333 --> 00:31:36,769 You have to share. 672 00:31:36,812 --> 00:31:38,466 BULL: The child psychologist 673 00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:40,294 I reached out to, the one who specializes 674 00:31:40,338 --> 00:31:41,469 in trauma and memory? 675 00:31:41,513 --> 00:31:44,168 She just texted "yes." 676 00:31:44,211 --> 00:31:45,996 She's agreed to meet with Stephen, 677 00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,041 and if that meeting goes well, 678 00:31:48,085 --> 00:31:49,825 she's willing to testify on his behalf. 679 00:31:49,869 --> 00:31:52,567 If only that were all there was to it. 680 00:31:52,611 --> 00:31:54,308 What are you talking about? 681 00:31:54,352 --> 00:31:56,963 [sighs] Maybrook's attorney just e-mailed me 682 00:31:57,007 --> 00:31:58,660 an updated witness list. 683 00:31:58,704 --> 00:32:00,488 There are more names on here 684 00:32:00,532 --> 00:32:02,621 than the credits of a Marvel movie. 685 00:32:04,579 --> 00:32:06,712 Camp alumni, former staffers, 686 00:32:06,755 --> 00:32:08,366 his head of philanthropic giving. 687 00:32:08,409 --> 00:32:10,498 All people who are gonna sing Maybrook's praises 688 00:32:10,542 --> 00:32:12,152 to the high heavens. 689 00:32:12,196 --> 00:32:14,502 Got it. She's gonna inundate the jury 690 00:32:14,546 --> 00:32:15,851 with character witnesses. 691 00:32:15,895 --> 00:32:18,202 So by the time we get our shot at rebuttal, 692 00:32:18,245 --> 00:32:19,986 the jury will be so weary, they won't even hear 693 00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:21,509 what we have to say. 694 00:32:21,553 --> 00:32:23,294 Wait a second. 695 00:32:23,337 --> 00:32:25,731 Is this the entire list? Is this everyone? 696 00:32:25,774 --> 00:32:27,820 It's three pages long, Taylor. You want more? 697 00:32:27,863 --> 00:32:28,995 No, I just-- 698 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,215 Lydia Helms, his former assistant. 699 00:32:31,258 --> 00:32:32,346 How come she's not on the list? 700 00:32:32,390 --> 00:32:35,567 Lydia. 701 00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:37,177 She's the one Stephen talked about. 702 00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:40,267 Mr. Coleman, the other night in my office. 703 00:32:40,311 --> 00:32:41,965 She would make the approach. 704 00:32:42,008 --> 00:32:44,880 She would invite them up to the house. 705 00:32:44,924 --> 00:32:47,361 Didn't Marissa reach out to her before the trial? 706 00:32:47,405 --> 00:32:49,320 Yeah. She worked with him for years. 707 00:32:49,363 --> 00:32:51,104 Apparently she just loved him. 708 00:32:51,148 --> 00:32:53,411 But if that's the case, why isn't the defense 709 00:32:53,454 --> 00:32:54,760 putting her on the stand? 710 00:32:54,803 --> 00:32:56,370 [doorbell rings] 711 00:32:58,503 --> 00:33:00,418 Can I help you? 712 00:33:00,461 --> 00:33:05,031 Yes. I'm looking for Mrs. Helms. Mrs. Lydia Helms. 713 00:33:05,075 --> 00:33:06,554 And you are... 714 00:33:06,598 --> 00:33:07,773 I'm Dr. Jason Bull. 715 00:33:07,816 --> 00:33:09,775 I'm representing Mr. Stephen Raposa 716 00:33:09,818 --> 00:33:11,995 in a civil suit against Peter Maybrook, 717 00:33:12,038 --> 00:33:13,387 who I believe you worked for. 718 00:33:13,431 --> 00:33:16,216 You know, I've already had this conversation 719 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:18,697 with a woman from your office. 720 00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:22,179 As I explained to her, I really have nothing to say. 721 00:33:22,222 --> 00:33:24,224 Right. 722 00:33:25,443 --> 00:33:28,315 Aren't you worried he's gonna do it again? 723 00:33:30,796 --> 00:33:33,103 I'd be grateful if you'd invite me in. 724 00:33:33,146 --> 00:33:35,105 I'll only need ten minutes of your time. 725 00:33:35,148 --> 00:33:39,413 Save us both the trouble of me having to subpoena you. 726 00:33:39,457 --> 00:33:40,632 LYDIA: The truth is, 727 00:33:40,675 --> 00:33:42,938 I don't know anything. 728 00:33:42,982 --> 00:33:45,680 Not for certain, not that I'd swear to in court. 729 00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:47,247 But you suspected something. 730 00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,423 Not until that last summer. 731 00:33:49,467 --> 00:33:51,947 Peter decided to close the camp. 732 00:33:51,991 --> 00:33:54,646 Anyway, we-we were selling the estate, 733 00:33:54,689 --> 00:33:57,736 and I was helping to prepare for the move. 734 00:33:57,779 --> 00:33:59,346 Peter was an avid photographer, 735 00:33:59,390 --> 00:34:00,782 and I knew he loved his darkroom, 736 00:34:00,826 --> 00:34:04,656 so I decided I would just pack it myself. 737 00:34:04,699 --> 00:34:08,094 And did you see something in the darkroom? 738 00:34:08,138 --> 00:34:11,402 Not what you think. 739 00:34:11,445 --> 00:34:13,708 Nothing lewd. 740 00:34:13,752 --> 00:34:17,538 Just... pictures of boys. 741 00:34:19,453 --> 00:34:20,933 Everywhere. 742 00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:24,241 And taken with such affection. 743 00:34:24,284 --> 00:34:28,593 He made them all look beautiful, like-like an artist 744 00:34:28,636 --> 00:34:31,422 when he paints his lover or his muse. 745 00:34:31,465 --> 00:34:33,772 It was like he was trying to 746 00:34:33,815 --> 00:34:37,689 desperately capture something, hold onto something. 747 00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:41,606 It felt intensely private. 748 00:34:41,649 --> 00:34:43,825 [line ringing] 749 00:34:45,392 --> 00:34:46,480 STEPHEN: Hello. 750 00:34:46,524 --> 00:34:48,047 Stephen, am I catching you at dinner? 751 00:34:48,091 --> 00:34:50,223 It's Jason Bull. There's something I'd like to ask you. 752 00:34:50,267 --> 00:34:51,746 Sure. 753 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:54,662 Do you remember Maybrook ever taking photos of you, 754 00:34:54,706 --> 00:34:56,751 or maybe the two of you together? 755 00:34:56,795 --> 00:35:00,103 Uh, no. I remember hearing he had a darkroom, 756 00:35:00,146 --> 00:35:02,322 but I don't remember him taking pictures. Why? 757 00:35:02,366 --> 00:35:05,325 Did Ryan ever talk about Maybrook taking pictures? 758 00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:06,805 Ryan talked about a lot of things 759 00:35:06,848 --> 00:35:07,980 when it came to Maybrook. 760 00:35:08,023 --> 00:35:10,287 Mostly I tried to tune him out. 761 00:35:10,330 --> 00:35:13,116 But I do remember the night he ransacked Maybrook's place. 762 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,596 He brought back three or four cameras. 763 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,164 I figured he probably wanted to sell them for drug money, 764 00:35:18,208 --> 00:35:20,166 so I took them, hid them. 765 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:22,168 I didn't want him getting caught. 766 00:35:22,212 --> 00:35:24,170 Getting in more trouble. 767 00:35:24,214 --> 00:35:25,867 You took them. 768 00:35:25,911 --> 00:35:27,956 Any chance you still have 'em? 769 00:35:33,223 --> 00:35:34,963 Your Honor, in light of some new evidence 770 00:35:35,007 --> 00:35:37,270 that's just been brought to our attention, 771 00:35:37,314 --> 00:35:39,011 the plaintiff would like to recall 772 00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:40,665 Peter Maybrook to the stand. 773 00:35:44,799 --> 00:35:48,194 Mr. Maybrook, now, I understand 774 00:35:48,238 --> 00:35:50,936 you have an interest in photography. 775 00:35:50,979 --> 00:35:52,459 I do.Ah. 776 00:35:52,503 --> 00:35:55,984 Do you recognize this camera? 777 00:35:56,028 --> 00:35:58,770 I believe it belonged to you at one time. 778 00:35:58,813 --> 00:36:01,425 I-I have no idea. 779 00:36:01,468 --> 00:36:04,471 I-I may have had a camera like that in the past. 780 00:36:04,515 --> 00:36:07,648 Oh, well, 781 00:36:07,692 --> 00:36:10,260 w-would it surprise you to learn 782 00:36:10,303 --> 00:36:13,959 that your fingerprints were found on this camera? 783 00:36:14,002 --> 00:36:17,223 Or that we contacted the manufacturer 784 00:36:17,267 --> 00:36:20,922 and learned that you sent a warranty card 785 00:36:20,966 --> 00:36:25,884 for a camera with the exact same serial numbers as this one? 786 00:36:25,927 --> 00:36:28,887 It seems like it might have been my camera.Ah. 787 00:36:28,930 --> 00:36:30,758 Ha-ha, well, 788 00:36:30,802 --> 00:36:33,457 I appreciate you conceding that, sir. 789 00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:36,242 See, but here's the thing. 790 00:36:36,286 --> 00:36:40,638 Did you know the reason we found this camera... 791 00:36:40,681 --> 00:36:43,467 the reason I am able to show it to you here today 792 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:48,123 is because Ryan Raposa, my client's late brother, 793 00:36:48,167 --> 00:36:49,864 stole it from you? 794 00:36:49,908 --> 00:36:53,041 You remember that? 795 00:36:53,085 --> 00:36:56,349 About ten years ago, your home was burglarized. 796 00:36:56,393 --> 00:37:00,266 I believe, along with everything else, 797 00:37:00,310 --> 00:37:03,095 four cameras were taken. 798 00:37:03,138 --> 00:37:07,186 Did you know that Ryan was the thief? 799 00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:10,276 Turns out he was... he was very angry with you. 800 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,844 Even after all these years. 801 00:37:12,887 --> 00:37:15,150 See, I'm guessing you never knew. 802 00:37:15,194 --> 00:37:17,718 I'm guessing you never told the police 803 00:37:17,762 --> 00:37:20,852 because you were afraid of what they might find here. 804 00:37:20,895 --> 00:37:22,462 Turns out it's been in my client's basement 805 00:37:22,506 --> 00:37:23,463 this whole time. 806 00:37:23,507 --> 00:37:25,335 GROSSMAN: Objection. Relevance. 807 00:37:25,378 --> 00:37:28,163 I don't see what this has to do with anything. 808 00:37:28,207 --> 00:37:31,079 Your Honor, if you will permit me, 809 00:37:31,123 --> 00:37:33,299 I assure you that I will prove to the court 810 00:37:33,343 --> 00:37:34,996 just how relevant this camera is. 811 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,911 Go ahead. 812 00:37:36,955 --> 00:37:40,654 To make things easier for everyone to see, 813 00:37:40,698 --> 00:37:44,789 I'm gonna connect this camera to this computer, 814 00:37:44,832 --> 00:37:48,227 and broadcast the images 815 00:37:48,271 --> 00:37:52,666 to the monitor right next to Mr. Maybrook. 816 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:56,191 Hey, is that you in the photo there, Mr. Maybrook? 817 00:37:56,235 --> 00:37:58,281 Ten or so years ago, yes. 818 00:37:58,324 --> 00:38:00,370 BENNY: Ah. 819 00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:02,197 What about this photo? 820 00:38:02,241 --> 00:38:03,938 [gallery gasping and murmuring] 821 00:38:03,982 --> 00:38:05,026 Hmm? 822 00:38:05,070 --> 00:38:07,333 Now, what was going on there? 823 00:38:07,377 --> 00:38:09,379 You set up a timer or something? 824 00:38:11,729 --> 00:38:13,948 Ah, that's okay. 825 00:38:13,992 --> 00:38:16,821 That's all right. 826 00:38:16,864 --> 00:38:18,039 I was just trying to figure out 827 00:38:18,083 --> 00:38:21,173 if there was a third person in the room. 828 00:38:21,216 --> 00:38:23,436 That's not important, right? 829 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,309 What is important is that we all agree that 830 00:38:26,352 --> 00:38:29,355 that is you in the photo. 831 00:38:29,399 --> 00:38:30,748 On the left-hand side of the frame 832 00:38:30,791 --> 00:38:35,709 with your shirt off and your arms around-- 833 00:38:35,753 --> 00:38:37,624 we'll get to him in a minute. 834 00:38:37,668 --> 00:38:39,060 That you, sir? 835 00:38:39,104 --> 00:38:41,672 It seems to be. 836 00:38:41,715 --> 00:38:44,892 I'm sorry, I need a yes or no. 837 00:38:44,936 --> 00:38:46,285 Mr. Maybrook? 838 00:38:48,461 --> 00:38:49,506 Yes. 839 00:38:49,549 --> 00:38:53,858 What about the boy in this photo? 840 00:38:53,901 --> 00:38:55,990 That boy right there. 841 00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:58,515 He must be about 13. 842 00:38:58,558 --> 00:39:00,299 He has his shirt off, too, 843 00:39:00,343 --> 00:39:02,040 and you two are holding each other. 844 00:39:02,083 --> 00:39:04,347 You happen to remember his name? 845 00:39:06,479 --> 00:39:09,700 I'm not sure. 846 00:39:09,743 --> 00:39:13,878 Roberto... Renaldo... 847 00:39:13,921 --> 00:39:15,706 I'm not sure. 848 00:39:15,749 --> 00:39:17,229 Eh, you're not sure. 849 00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:20,406 That's all right, that's all right, Mr. Maybrook. 850 00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:21,929 What about this photo? 851 00:39:21,973 --> 00:39:24,236 [all gasping, murmuring]That you? 852 00:39:24,279 --> 00:39:26,412 In the picture? 853 00:39:26,456 --> 00:39:29,763 Let the record reflect that I have just shown the defendant 854 00:39:29,807 --> 00:39:33,506 a photo of himself naked 855 00:39:33,550 --> 00:39:37,249 in a bathroom with a minor! 856 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,906 Actually, I'm not certain that is me. 857 00:39:41,949 --> 00:39:44,125 Yeah? 858 00:39:44,169 --> 00:39:47,564 Hey, let me remind you that you are still under oath. 859 00:39:47,607 --> 00:39:49,566 I'd also like you to know that I've got 860 00:39:49,609 --> 00:39:52,438 33 more images very much like this one, 861 00:39:52,482 --> 00:39:55,441 and I am happy to show the court all of them, 862 00:39:55,485 --> 00:39:58,139 and ask you to identify yourself on each and every one. 863 00:39:58,183 --> 00:40:01,447 Or you can concede that that is you, 864 00:40:01,491 --> 00:40:04,450 and for the moment, the slide show is over. 865 00:40:04,494 --> 00:40:05,799 Your choice. 866 00:40:11,414 --> 00:40:14,460 Actually, uh... 867 00:40:14,504 --> 00:40:16,419 on reflection... 868 00:40:19,291 --> 00:40:21,815 ...I believe that is me. 869 00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:29,388 Oh, God. 870 00:40:29,432 --> 00:40:31,782 Bull, tell Stephen he did it. 871 00:40:31,825 --> 00:40:33,784 I think he knows, Marissa. 872 00:40:33,827 --> 00:40:35,786 I think he knows. 873 00:40:42,401 --> 00:40:43,707 You think he's happy? 874 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:46,579 I didn't know him, other than what you told me. 875 00:40:46,623 --> 00:40:50,496 But you picked a beautiful spot for his ashes. 876 00:40:52,759 --> 00:40:54,587 $35 million. 877 00:40:54,631 --> 00:40:56,807 You think it-it even matters to him? 878 00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:58,417 To Maybrook? 879 00:40:58,461 --> 00:41:01,159 Obviously, I'm going to donate it. 880 00:41:01,202 --> 00:41:02,465 I don't know to whom just yet. 881 00:41:02,508 --> 00:41:04,858 Some worthy cause. 882 00:41:12,083 --> 00:41:14,433 I know it's supposed to make me feel better. 883 00:41:14,477 --> 00:41:16,087 I know it's his punishment, but I swear to you, 884 00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:19,786 the whole time that we were sitting there in court, 885 00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:22,006 money never crossed my mind. 886 00:41:22,049 --> 00:41:24,356 I think I somehow convinced myself that 887 00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:26,663 they'd do something to him. 888 00:41:26,706 --> 00:41:29,274 Not just take some of his money. 889 00:41:29,317 --> 00:41:32,233 I'm pretty sure Ryan's in heaven rolling his eyes. 890 00:41:32,277 --> 00:41:35,367 Okay, if you are done feeling sorry for yourself 891 00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:37,935 because all you got was $35 million you never wanted, 892 00:41:37,978 --> 00:41:39,893 I think I have some good news for you. 893 00:41:39,937 --> 00:41:41,547 What? What is it? 894 00:41:41,591 --> 00:41:44,419 Peter Maybrook was just arrested. 895 00:41:49,076 --> 00:41:50,730 But how? How is that possible? 896 00:41:50,774 --> 00:41:53,167 The statute of limitations on criminal charges... 897 00:41:53,211 --> 00:41:54,473 I didn't want you to get your hopes up, 898 00:41:54,517 --> 00:41:56,431 but Bull had a strong hunch that if Maybrook had 899 00:41:56,475 --> 00:41:58,608 taken pictures of himself with underage boys in the past, 900 00:41:58,651 --> 00:42:00,131 he probably took pictures of himself 901 00:42:00,174 --> 00:42:01,698 with underage boys in the present. 902 00:42:01,741 --> 00:42:04,875 So Danny worked with an old NYPD colleague 903 00:42:04,918 --> 00:42:06,703 to drum up probable cause, 904 00:42:06,746 --> 00:42:08,792 and they raided his office this morning. 905 00:42:08,835 --> 00:42:09,880 Bull was right. 906 00:42:09,923 --> 00:42:12,360 Maybrook is going away for life. 907 00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:17,975 You think maybe Ryan's done with his eye-rolling? 908 00:42:20,412 --> 00:42:22,457 Yeah, I think so. 909 00:42:23,676 --> 00:42:26,200 Thank you. 910 00:42:28,681 --> 00:42:31,641 Captioning sponsored by CBS 911 00:42:31,684 --> 00:42:34,687 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 67267

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