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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,341 --> 00:00:04,377 (horns honking) 2 00:00:10,849 --> 00:00:13,052 (phone buzzes, rings) 3 00:00:35,708 --> 00:00:38,177 BENNY: If something edible isn't put in front of me 4 00:00:38,211 --> 00:00:39,845 in the next three minutes, I am not responsible 5 00:00:39,878 --> 00:00:40,846 for what I might do. 6 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:43,116 Don't anybody shoot Benny with a tranq gun. 7 00:00:43,149 --> 00:00:45,351 I just buzzed 'em in. Food's on its way up. 8 00:00:45,384 --> 00:00:46,552 Ugh, food! 9 00:00:46,585 --> 00:00:49,388 * Glorious food 10 00:00:49,422 --> 00:00:52,091 * Hot sausage and mustard * 11 00:00:52,125 --> 00:00:54,227 * Food, glorious food 12 00:00:54,260 --> 00:00:58,564 * Something, something, and cus... tard. * 13 00:01:02,435 --> 00:01:04,670 Hey. 14 00:01:04,703 --> 00:01:05,871 Hey. 15 00:01:05,904 --> 00:01:06,739 DANNY: Oh, hey, Simon. 16 00:01:06,772 --> 00:01:08,774 You finally come back to say good-bye? 17 00:01:08,807 --> 00:01:10,843 Hey, Simple Simon, 18 00:01:10,876 --> 00:01:13,146 stop ogling over the help and bring me over my grub. 19 00:01:13,179 --> 00:01:15,314 (chuckles) 20 00:01:15,348 --> 00:01:17,616 How have you been, Simon? 21 00:01:17,650 --> 00:01:18,884 Uh, good. You know? 22 00:01:18,917 --> 00:01:20,286 Just workin'. 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,222 Uh, I'm in a bit of a hurry, actually, 24 00:01:23,256 --> 00:01:25,424 so... 25 00:01:25,458 --> 00:01:27,593 I'll walk you out. 26 00:01:27,626 --> 00:01:30,129 Quite a career path he's on. 27 00:01:30,163 --> 00:01:33,799 From trial science technician to bike messenger. 28 00:01:33,832 --> 00:01:35,834 (sighs) 29 00:01:38,237 --> 00:01:40,873 (sighs) Well, that was weird. 30 00:01:40,906 --> 00:01:42,875 You know what's weird? 31 00:01:42,908 --> 00:01:45,278 A guy working somewhere for four months 32 00:01:45,311 --> 00:01:47,546 and then suddenly just not showing up. 33 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:49,348 You know what else is weird? 34 00:01:49,382 --> 00:01:51,684 Uh, somebody dating somebody 35 00:01:51,717 --> 00:01:55,288 and then, all of a sudden, they're gone. 36 00:01:55,321 --> 00:01:56,422 They've moved. 37 00:01:56,455 --> 00:01:57,590 Changed their number. 38 00:01:57,623 --> 00:01:58,724 Don't show up for work. 39 00:01:58,757 --> 00:02:00,259 E-mails bounce back. 40 00:02:00,293 --> 00:02:02,361 I'm sorry. 41 00:02:02,395 --> 00:02:04,863 I hope you weren't worried. 42 00:02:04,897 --> 00:02:05,931 Following people online 43 00:02:05,964 --> 00:02:07,600 when they don't want to be followed, 44 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:09,368 that's what I do. 45 00:02:12,271 --> 00:02:15,574 Three and a half weeks is kind of a long time 46 00:02:15,608 --> 00:02:17,643 to not text somebody that you care about. 47 00:02:17,676 --> 00:02:19,178 (elevator bell chimes) 48 00:02:19,212 --> 00:02:21,214 (doors open) 49 00:02:22,215 --> 00:02:24,250 I know I-I owe you an explanation, 50 00:02:24,283 --> 00:02:28,187 but... I'm trying to get this $30 bonus and, uh... 51 00:02:28,221 --> 00:02:29,655 $30. 52 00:02:29,688 --> 00:02:32,925 Cool. Well, don't let me waste another second of your time. 53 00:02:32,958 --> 00:02:34,927 You can just have a nice life, Simon. 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,198 By the way, you look like hell. 55 00:02:39,232 --> 00:02:41,467 Your eyes are bloodshot, and your hands are shaking. 56 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:45,271 Whatever you're doing, really... 57 00:02:45,304 --> 00:02:47,640 keep it up. (elevator bell chimes) 58 00:02:47,673 --> 00:02:49,442 I'm sorry, Cable. 59 00:02:50,443 --> 00:02:53,346 * 60 00:03:01,420 --> 00:03:03,422 (distant siren wailing) 61 00:03:04,923 --> 00:03:09,728 * Baby, then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do * 62 00:03:09,762 --> 00:03:11,430 (excited chattering) 63 00:03:11,464 --> 00:03:12,998 * We could be married 64 00:03:13,031 --> 00:03:15,534 * We could be married * 65 00:03:15,568 --> 00:03:17,370 * Then we'd be happy 66 00:03:17,403 --> 00:03:19,538 * Then we'd be happy * 67 00:03:19,572 --> 00:03:22,241 (gasping) Happy birthday. 68 00:03:22,275 --> 00:03:24,377 (excited chattering) 69 00:03:24,410 --> 00:03:26,579 (phone buzzes, ringing) 70 00:03:32,451 --> 00:03:37,290 * You know, it seems the more we talk about it * 71 00:03:37,323 --> 00:03:42,695 * It only makes it worse to live without it * 72 00:03:42,728 --> 00:03:48,501 * But let's talk about it 73 00:03:48,534 --> 00:03:52,305 * Wouldn't it be nice? * Ooh, ooh, ooh 74 00:03:52,338 --> 00:03:53,639 * Run, run, ooh 75 00:03:53,672 --> 00:03:56,475 * Bah, bah-bah-bah, bah-bah-bah * 76 00:03:56,509 --> 00:03:58,311 * Bah, bah, bah 77 00:03:58,344 --> 00:04:00,979 * Good night, my baby (woman screaming) 78 00:04:01,013 --> 00:04:05,551 * Sleep tight, my baby 79 00:04:05,584 --> 00:04:08,421 * Good night, my baby 80 00:04:08,454 --> 00:04:10,856 * Sleep tight... (siren wailing) 81 00:04:10,889 --> 00:04:12,891 (elevator bell chimes) 82 00:04:16,562 --> 00:04:17,863 MARISSA: $10,000 83 00:04:17,896 --> 00:04:19,798 for Hamilton tickets, day of, 84 00:04:19,832 --> 00:04:21,934 fourth row center, from a scalper. 85 00:04:21,967 --> 00:04:24,603 It's an absolutely justifiable business expense. 86 00:04:24,637 --> 00:04:26,339 I had to pay off the court clerk. 87 00:04:26,372 --> 00:04:29,408 Bull, I seriously doubt the IRS will agree 88 00:04:29,442 --> 00:04:31,076 that illegal bribes are deductible. 89 00:04:31,109 --> 00:04:34,747 Marissa, if I don't have a list of the 75 potential jurors 90 00:04:34,780 --> 00:04:36,682 that make up the jury pool at least a couple days 91 00:04:36,715 --> 00:04:38,083 before I walk into that courtroom, 92 00:04:38,116 --> 00:04:40,353 then all of those people on the other side of that door 93 00:04:40,386 --> 00:04:42,355 can't research them and help me figure out 94 00:04:42,388 --> 00:04:43,456 if I want them or not. 95 00:04:43,489 --> 00:04:45,524 And since jury lists are not supposed to be shared 96 00:04:45,558 --> 00:04:46,825 with either side, Exactly. 97 00:04:46,859 --> 00:04:47,826 the only way that I can do 98 00:04:47,860 --> 00:04:49,362 my job is to have that list. 99 00:04:49,395 --> 00:04:51,364 Otherwise, I'm just guessing. 100 00:04:51,397 --> 00:04:53,399 And any fool can guess. (knocking) 101 00:04:53,432 --> 00:04:55,033 Come in! Bad time? 102 00:04:55,067 --> 00:04:57,636 No. No, no. Perfect time. 103 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:59,505 How was the memorial service? 104 00:04:59,538 --> 00:05:01,907 CABLE: Uh, I-I don't know. 105 00:05:01,940 --> 00:05:03,976 I don't have anything to compare it to. 106 00:05:04,009 --> 00:05:05,811 I've never had a friend die before. 107 00:05:07,380 --> 00:05:10,483 Is there any way I could talk to you alone? 108 00:05:10,516 --> 00:05:11,484 CABLE: I know you didn't know Simon very well. 109 00:05:11,517 --> 00:05:13,486 (sighs) Cable, 110 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,621 a lot of assistants come through here. 111 00:05:17,656 --> 00:05:19,925 It's no excuse. You know, the only reason 112 00:05:19,958 --> 00:05:22,395 he left here is because he couldn't do nine-to-five. 113 00:05:22,428 --> 00:05:25,831 Everything had to be his choice, all the time. 114 00:05:25,864 --> 00:05:27,500 When to wake up, what to do. 115 00:05:27,533 --> 00:05:29,702 Anyway, I'm sure somebody told you, 116 00:05:29,735 --> 00:05:31,504 but he started working as a bike messenger. 117 00:05:31,537 --> 00:05:33,038 It was kind of invented for him, 118 00:05:33,071 --> 00:05:35,574 because he could just text when he felt like working. 119 00:05:35,608 --> 00:05:38,577 And the other thing he started to do, actually, 120 00:05:38,611 --> 00:05:40,913 about a year ago, while he was working here, 121 00:05:40,946 --> 00:05:44,517 was working as a guinea pig for pharmaceutical companies, 122 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,385 testing new drugs. 123 00:05:46,419 --> 00:05:47,586 They pay a lot of money. 124 00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:49,054 And all he had to do was remember 125 00:05:49,087 --> 00:05:50,589 to take one or two pills a day. 126 00:05:50,623 --> 00:05:52,525 I know you really cared for him... 127 00:05:52,558 --> 00:05:54,126 I was talking to some of his friends. 128 00:05:54,159 --> 00:05:56,729 It turns out he was doing a trial for this company 129 00:05:56,762 --> 00:05:58,464 called Dep Pharmaceutical, 130 00:05:58,497 --> 00:06:00,766 testing this new kind of antidepressant called Eutaline. 131 00:06:00,799 --> 00:06:05,103 The people that know Simon, 132 00:06:05,137 --> 00:06:08,507 they say it was the drug that caused Simon to kill himself. 133 00:06:08,541 --> 00:06:11,109 Cable, when people are grieving... They say 134 00:06:11,143 --> 00:06:12,845 he completely changed on it. Even so, 135 00:06:12,878 --> 00:06:14,580 it doesn't mean it made him suicidal. That man 136 00:06:14,613 --> 00:06:18,417 loved life. He didn't drink, he didn't smoke, he loved the gym. 137 00:06:18,451 --> 00:06:20,686 But he took pills for money. 138 00:06:20,719 --> 00:06:23,422 Look, his parents want to sue. 139 00:06:24,222 --> 00:06:26,725 And I told them I'd help. 140 00:06:28,060 --> 00:06:31,530 And I told them I'd ask you if you'd help. 141 00:06:32,898 --> 00:06:34,867 They want money? 142 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:36,068 They want answers. 143 00:06:36,101 --> 00:06:39,705 And they want to make sure this drug never gets to market. 144 00:06:40,906 --> 00:06:43,075 And, yes, I'm sure they want money, too. 145 00:06:43,108 --> 00:06:45,678 Hmm. 146 00:06:45,711 --> 00:06:47,946 Let me call Dep Pharmaceutical, 147 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:50,949 see if I can't put a meeting on the books for Benny and me. 148 00:06:50,983 --> 00:06:52,951 BENNY: Nice of you to do this. 149 00:06:52,985 --> 00:06:54,820 Represent someone I don't remember 150 00:06:54,853 --> 00:06:56,755 on a matter I know almost nothing about 151 00:06:56,789 --> 00:06:59,592 to make his parents, whom I've never met, feel better? 152 00:06:59,625 --> 00:07:01,694 Yeah, I'm a peach. (chuckles) 153 00:07:04,162 --> 00:07:07,165 (heels clicking) I sense our meeting is about to begin. 154 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:08,601 (door opens) 155 00:07:09,635 --> 00:07:13,138 Dr. Bull, you have no idea 156 00:07:13,171 --> 00:07:15,474 what a treat it is for me to meet you. 157 00:07:15,508 --> 00:07:18,176 And Benjamin Colón, former ADA. 158 00:07:18,210 --> 00:07:21,647 for New York County and in-house counsel for TAC. 159 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,582 My name is Arti Cander. 160 00:07:23,616 --> 00:07:25,150 Please, have a seat. 161 00:07:27,285 --> 00:07:29,588 So you know why we're here? 162 00:07:29,622 --> 00:07:31,256 Absolutely. 163 00:07:31,289 --> 00:07:33,592 Our cofounder and CEO, Tessa Snyder, 164 00:07:33,626 --> 00:07:35,661 is beside herself about this. 165 00:07:35,694 --> 00:07:37,930 You know, any time anyone who is part 166 00:07:37,963 --> 00:07:39,064 of the Dep family passes, 167 00:07:39,097 --> 00:07:41,800 no matter how minor their role in the company might be, 168 00:07:41,834 --> 00:07:43,268 it-it saddens all of us. 169 00:07:43,301 --> 00:07:45,538 You do understand we believe there's a relationship 170 00:07:45,571 --> 00:07:47,072 between Mr. Jones' death 171 00:07:47,105 --> 00:07:50,075 and the antidepressant he was testing for Dep. 172 00:07:50,108 --> 00:07:52,545 Really? I was, uh, under the impression 173 00:07:52,578 --> 00:07:54,547 that he fell off a roof. BENNY: Mm. 174 00:07:54,580 --> 00:07:56,481 Jumped. 175 00:07:57,315 --> 00:07:59,652 Well, this is the first I've heard 176 00:07:59,685 --> 00:08:03,121 of any suicidal ideation in relationship to this drug. 177 00:08:03,155 --> 00:08:05,190 Um, have you gentlemen... 178 00:08:05,223 --> 00:08:07,560 have you gentlemen done your homework? 179 00:08:07,593 --> 00:08:10,195 You know, if this side effect was even on our radar, 180 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:11,797 we wouldn't be doing human trials. 181 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:13,999 Um, FDA would simply not hear of it. 182 00:08:14,032 --> 00:08:17,269 Now, what can I do for you? 183 00:08:17,302 --> 00:08:19,171 You can shoot off a flare 184 00:08:19,204 --> 00:08:21,574 and let everybody at the... 185 00:08:21,607 --> 00:08:22,941 Dep family 186 00:08:22,975 --> 00:08:25,544 know that we're not gonna take you at your word 187 00:08:25,578 --> 00:08:27,613 that the new happy pill you're getting ready to inflict 188 00:08:27,646 --> 00:08:29,882 on the general public doesn't, in fact, 189 00:08:29,915 --> 00:08:33,652 make people want to shut off the lights and call it a day. 190 00:08:33,686 --> 00:08:35,588 If you're looking for a settlement... 191 00:08:35,621 --> 00:08:37,122 Oh, no. Thank you, Ms. Cander. 192 00:08:37,155 --> 00:08:38,223 Quite the name, by the way. 193 00:08:38,256 --> 00:08:40,793 Nothing like a little irony on your driver's license 194 00:08:40,826 --> 00:08:42,661 to keep your mood in check. 195 00:08:42,695 --> 00:08:44,663 Says the man named Bull. 196 00:08:44,697 --> 00:08:46,198 Mm. Let me save you some time, 197 00:08:46,231 --> 00:08:49,568 Arti, Simon's family is not gonna settle, 198 00:08:49,602 --> 00:08:50,703 and there's no amount of money 199 00:08:50,736 --> 00:08:52,571 that's gonna convince them otherwise. 200 00:08:52,605 --> 00:08:54,707 Oh, my. 201 00:08:54,740 --> 00:08:57,109 The famous Dr. Jason Bull, 202 00:08:57,142 --> 00:09:00,312 expert reader of human behavior, just misread me. 203 00:09:00,345 --> 00:09:02,715 We have no interest in settling. 204 00:09:02,748 --> 00:09:04,583 None. 205 00:09:04,617 --> 00:09:05,784 We're very happy to prove in a court of law 206 00:09:05,818 --> 00:09:08,153 that this drug is perfectly safe. 207 00:09:08,186 --> 00:09:09,154 It may not be safe. 208 00:09:09,187 --> 00:09:10,889 A man died while taking it. Ah. 209 00:09:10,923 --> 00:09:12,791 So you say. 210 00:09:12,825 --> 00:09:14,660 Then court it shall be. 211 00:09:14,693 --> 00:09:17,062 Excellent. 212 00:09:17,095 --> 00:09:19,798 I assume you're general counsel for Dep Pharmaceutical. 213 00:09:19,832 --> 00:09:21,734 Can I trouble you for a card? 214 00:09:21,767 --> 00:09:23,869 I'm sorry to disappoint you, Dr. Bull, 215 00:09:23,902 --> 00:09:26,238 but I'm not general counsel for Dep. 216 00:09:26,271 --> 00:09:27,906 Then to whom have I been speaking? 217 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:29,675 I work for Tessa Snyder. 218 00:09:29,708 --> 00:09:31,877 I'm her you. 219 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:33,879 (chuckles) Excuse me? 220 00:09:33,912 --> 00:09:35,614 I'm a trial scientist, Dr. Bull. 221 00:09:35,648 --> 00:09:37,783 And I very much look forward to seeing you in court. 222 00:09:37,816 --> 00:09:40,819 Please, feel free to let yourselves out. 223 00:09:46,224 --> 00:09:48,226 * 224 00:09:55,734 --> 00:09:57,736 * 225 00:10:00,005 --> 00:10:02,174 (Bull sighs) 226 00:10:05,978 --> 00:10:07,946 (door opens) BENNY: Hey. 227 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:10,348 You gonna be joining us? 228 00:10:10,382 --> 00:10:12,350 No. Go ahead without me. 229 00:10:12,384 --> 00:10:13,551 BENNY: The big news is 230 00:10:13,585 --> 00:10:18,757 Dep Pharmaceutical is downright anxious to go to court. 231 00:10:18,791 --> 00:10:21,359 Which leads me to believe that they have rock solid 232 00:10:21,393 --> 00:10:23,361 information on Simon 233 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:26,298 that they believe clears them of any culpability. 234 00:10:26,331 --> 00:10:28,233 Cable? 235 00:10:28,266 --> 00:10:30,035 I'm digging, but, honestly, 236 00:10:30,068 --> 00:10:32,204 I don't think there's any "there" there. 237 00:10:32,237 --> 00:10:34,406 I knew Simon. We all did. 238 00:10:34,439 --> 00:10:36,675 Wh-What about the company itself? 239 00:10:36,709 --> 00:10:39,144 This is Tessa Snyder, 240 00:10:39,177 --> 00:10:40,278 the company CEO. 241 00:10:40,312 --> 00:10:43,215 A competitor once described her as "a burning hot pepper 242 00:10:43,248 --> 00:10:44,883 disguised as an ice cream sundae." 243 00:10:44,917 --> 00:10:47,886 Wow. Can't wait to meet her. 244 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,322 Danny? Well, I'm trying to get a list 245 00:10:50,355 --> 00:10:51,857 of the other participants in the study. 246 00:10:51,890 --> 00:10:54,092 And, believe it or not, I may have a lead. 247 00:10:54,126 --> 00:10:55,427 Okay. (clicks tongue) 248 00:10:55,460 --> 00:10:58,363 Well, I guess we'll wait to hear from the big guy 249 00:10:58,396 --> 00:10:59,832 about voir dire. 250 00:10:59,865 --> 00:11:01,399 What's he doing in there? 251 00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:02,467 It's not what. 252 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:04,336 It's who. 253 00:11:07,305 --> 00:11:09,307 BULL: Wait a second! Isn't that London's 254 00:11:09,341 --> 00:11:10,375 Arti Cander? 255 00:11:10,408 --> 00:11:12,010 Is there nothing she can't do? 256 00:11:12,044 --> 00:11:14,279 Graduated with honors from Oxford, then moved to D.C. 257 00:11:14,312 --> 00:11:16,448 to became a lobbyist in the candy industry. 258 00:11:16,481 --> 00:11:17,883 Tough job. No one likes candy. 259 00:11:17,916 --> 00:11:19,885 And then decided to start all over again 260 00:11:19,918 --> 00:11:21,319 and enter the trial science business. 261 00:11:21,353 --> 00:11:24,289 Mm. Someone figured out how to Google. 262 00:11:24,322 --> 00:11:25,924 You left out the part 263 00:11:25,958 --> 00:11:27,392 where I spent three years at Georgetown 264 00:11:27,425 --> 00:11:29,094 studying law and human behavior. 265 00:11:29,127 --> 00:11:30,262 Oh, and you. 266 00:11:30,295 --> 00:11:32,497 I forgot to mention this the other day, but 267 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:34,332 I firmly do believe that you are one 268 00:11:34,366 --> 00:11:36,434 of the two best at what you do. 269 00:11:36,468 --> 00:11:37,369 Wait. Is this the part where 270 00:11:37,402 --> 00:11:39,404 I'm supposed to say, "But who's the other?" 271 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:41,807 Oh, you don't have to say it... just as long as you think it. 272 00:11:42,841 --> 00:11:44,910 So is it true you don't use mirror jurors? 273 00:11:44,943 --> 00:11:46,344 Yeah, I've never really seen the point. 274 00:11:46,378 --> 00:11:47,412 It's an extrapolation once removed. 275 00:11:47,445 --> 00:11:49,882 Then how do you know what the jurors are thinking? 276 00:11:49,915 --> 00:11:52,284 I read them... all by myself. 277 00:11:52,317 --> 00:11:53,518 You should try it sometime. 278 00:11:53,551 --> 00:11:55,420 Oh, I wouldn't know where to begin. 279 00:11:55,453 --> 00:11:58,456 Perhaps after I've had the opportunity to study you. 280 00:11:58,490 --> 00:12:02,160 Sorry. We're not taking any new students at the moment. 281 00:12:02,194 --> 00:12:03,896 I'll see you in court, Dr. Bull. 282 00:12:06,398 --> 00:12:08,400 (low conversations) 283 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:10,502 BENNY: There he is. 284 00:12:10,535 --> 00:12:14,439 Dr. Jason Bull, this is Mr. and Mrs. Jones, Simon's parents. 285 00:12:14,472 --> 00:12:16,408 Thank you for doing this, Dr. Bull. 286 00:12:16,441 --> 00:12:19,177 Well, we haven't done anything yet, but you're very welcome. 287 00:12:19,211 --> 00:12:21,780 Do you mind if I steal Mr. Colón for a moment? 288 00:12:21,814 --> 00:12:23,816 Excuse me. 289 00:12:27,219 --> 00:12:31,189 I am totally in the dark about our approach to voir dire. 290 00:12:31,223 --> 00:12:32,858 MARISSA (over earbud): That would make two of us, Bull. 291 00:12:32,891 --> 00:12:34,326 Is it as simple as finding people 292 00:12:34,359 --> 00:12:36,829 who feel anger towards the pharmaceutical companies? 293 00:12:36,862 --> 00:12:38,330 'Cause there are plenty of those. 294 00:12:38,363 --> 00:12:39,832 I wish. No. 295 00:12:39,865 --> 00:12:41,800 Just because people are mad at a company 296 00:12:41,834 --> 00:12:43,535 or even an entire industry doesn't mean 297 00:12:43,568 --> 00:12:44,436 they're gonna side with us. 298 00:12:44,469 --> 00:12:48,140 Shared experience does not equal empathy. 299 00:12:48,173 --> 00:12:50,843 In fact, a lot of times, it's just the opposite. 300 00:12:50,876 --> 00:12:52,945 It's called the empathy gap. 301 00:12:52,978 --> 00:12:56,214 I worry that they are gonna see Simon as someone 302 00:12:56,248 --> 00:12:59,451 who willingly signed up for a risky job in an industry 303 00:12:59,484 --> 00:13:01,386 famous for its greed and arrogance, 304 00:13:01,419 --> 00:13:03,355 and should have known better. 305 00:13:03,388 --> 00:13:05,357 Mm-hmm. So, what are we looking for? 306 00:13:05,390 --> 00:13:07,325 Perversely, I am thinking 307 00:13:07,359 --> 00:13:11,296 of going after jurors who trust powerful corporations. 308 00:13:11,329 --> 00:13:12,630 Now I'm confused. 309 00:13:12,664 --> 00:13:14,266 I would've thought that's exactly who we don't want. 310 00:13:14,299 --> 00:13:15,233 BULL: Think about it. 311 00:13:15,267 --> 00:13:17,970 Who better to understand what happened to Simon 312 00:13:18,003 --> 00:13:21,239 than someone who takes big companies at their word. 313 00:13:21,273 --> 00:13:23,441 We'll tell them a story about a young man 314 00:13:23,475 --> 00:13:26,044 who trusted the people he worked for, 315 00:13:26,078 --> 00:13:28,580 never questioning their intentions 316 00:13:28,613 --> 00:13:31,483 or their honesty till it was too late. 317 00:13:31,516 --> 00:13:35,453 And hopefully, we'll shock 'em into siding with us. 318 00:13:35,487 --> 00:13:38,056 Mm. Well, 319 00:13:38,090 --> 00:13:41,059 at the very least, she'll never see it coming. 320 00:13:41,093 --> 00:13:43,061 MARISSA: Eddie Dunn, 33 years old. 321 00:13:43,095 --> 00:13:44,963 He is a toy wholesaler, so, 322 00:13:44,997 --> 00:13:48,000 he depends on big manufacturers for his livelihood. 323 00:13:48,033 --> 00:13:50,302 He is the poster boy for the kind of juror they think 324 00:13:50,335 --> 00:13:52,237 they want and think we don't. 325 00:13:52,270 --> 00:13:53,605 Excellent. This should be fun. 326 00:13:53,638 --> 00:13:55,240 ATTORNEY: Say you buy a product-- 327 00:13:55,273 --> 00:13:57,475 sandwich bags-- you get them home, 328 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:59,611 but none of the zippers work. 329 00:13:59,644 --> 00:14:01,613 What do you do? Do you drive 330 00:14:01,646 --> 00:14:03,415 all the way back to the store 331 00:14:03,448 --> 00:14:05,650 and make them exchange it for another box? 332 00:14:05,683 --> 00:14:07,652 Do you, uh, write to the manufacturer? 333 00:14:07,685 --> 00:14:09,354 Or do you just 334 00:14:09,387 --> 00:14:12,424 shrug it off, throw the box away and get on with your life? 335 00:14:12,457 --> 00:14:13,591 Me? I'd go back to the store. 336 00:14:13,625 --> 00:14:16,394 Because? Any reputable store is gonna want 337 00:14:16,428 --> 00:14:18,263 to make good on that purchase. 338 00:14:18,296 --> 00:14:20,565 And so is the manufacturer, by the way. 339 00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:23,501 There's nothing to be gained by angering a customer. 340 00:14:23,535 --> 00:14:25,370 This juror's acceptable to the defense. 341 00:14:25,403 --> 00:14:28,006 He's good, but Bull's gonna strike him. 342 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,208 Does the plaintiff wish to question this juror? 343 00:14:30,242 --> 00:14:32,510 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, too, Your Honor. 344 00:14:32,544 --> 00:14:34,346 Thank you. 345 00:14:37,115 --> 00:14:40,318 If you have a choice, do you prefer store brand products, 346 00:14:40,352 --> 00:14:42,220 or name brand products? 347 00:14:42,254 --> 00:14:43,655 Most of the time, store brand. 348 00:14:43,688 --> 00:14:45,323 Any particular reason why? 349 00:14:45,357 --> 00:14:47,325 Bears don't use toilet paper. 350 00:14:47,359 --> 00:14:49,361 And mermaids don't drink coffee. 351 00:14:49,394 --> 00:14:51,229 I'm not paying for the trademark. 352 00:14:51,263 --> 00:14:53,265 I'm paying for the product. 353 00:14:53,298 --> 00:14:54,532 That's very clever. Mm-hmm. 354 00:14:54,566 --> 00:14:56,268 Move to strike, Your Honor. 355 00:14:58,136 --> 00:14:59,972 ATTORNEY: How do you feel about drug companies? 356 00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:01,373 I wish their drugs cost less. 357 00:15:01,406 --> 00:15:03,208 But then... I wish everything cost less. 358 00:15:03,241 --> 00:15:05,210 (laughs) Hear, hear. 359 00:15:05,243 --> 00:15:06,544 But notwithstanding price, 360 00:15:06,578 --> 00:15:08,546 how do you feel about drug companies? 361 00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:11,149 I mean, do you use prescription drugs at all? 362 00:15:11,183 --> 00:15:12,951 I have a couple of prescriptions, yes. 363 00:15:12,985 --> 00:15:15,187 And do they do what they're supposed to do? 364 00:15:15,220 --> 00:15:18,156 Help you with the things you need them to help with? Yes. 365 00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:20,125 Would you miss them if you didn't have them? 366 00:15:20,158 --> 00:15:21,326 Couldn't get them? 367 00:15:21,359 --> 00:15:22,594 Yes, definitely. 368 00:15:22,627 --> 00:15:24,662 So back to my first question, 369 00:15:24,696 --> 00:15:26,631 how do you feel about drug companies? 370 00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:31,136 I guess I'm kind of grateful for them. 371 00:15:31,169 --> 00:15:33,038 (mouthing): She's great. 372 00:15:33,071 --> 00:15:35,607 ATTORNEY: This juror is acceptable to the defense. 373 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,342 And to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 374 00:15:37,375 --> 00:15:40,712 Ladies and gentlemen, we have a jury. 375 00:15:40,745 --> 00:15:42,647 The rest of you are dismissed. (gavel bangs) 376 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,649 Thank you for your time. 377 00:15:46,751 --> 00:15:48,186 Well, that was easy. 378 00:15:48,220 --> 00:15:49,587 What are you trying to pull? 379 00:15:49,621 --> 00:15:50,588 What are you talking about? 380 00:15:50,622 --> 00:15:52,024 You mean the jurors? 381 00:15:52,057 --> 00:15:53,958 Great minds think alike. 382 00:15:55,127 --> 00:15:56,594 You look puzzled. 383 00:15:56,628 --> 00:15:58,296 Can't you read me? 384 00:15:58,330 --> 00:16:00,132 I'd just like to understand. That's all. 385 00:16:00,165 --> 00:16:01,533 Oh, I'm sorry. 386 00:16:01,566 --> 00:16:04,202 We're not taking new students at the moment. 387 00:16:04,236 --> 00:16:06,238 See you in court, Ms. Cander. 388 00:16:11,543 --> 00:16:13,511 (elevator bell chimes) 389 00:16:14,546 --> 00:16:16,548 (sighs) 390 00:16:18,083 --> 00:16:20,318 (computer beeps) 391 00:16:31,363 --> 00:16:33,731 Cable. 392 00:16:33,765 --> 00:16:35,500 Cable! (gasps) 393 00:16:35,533 --> 00:16:37,502 BENNY: So what did you discover working 394 00:16:37,535 --> 00:16:39,071 the graveyard shift? 395 00:16:39,104 --> 00:16:40,138 Bunch of stuff. 396 00:16:40,172 --> 00:16:42,674 A complete record of every delivery Simon ever made 397 00:16:42,707 --> 00:16:43,941 for Rush City Courier. 398 00:16:43,975 --> 00:16:47,679 And Danny e-mailed me that she might've found another subject 399 00:16:47,712 --> 00:16:50,182 in Simon's trial, and last but not least, 400 00:16:50,215 --> 00:16:54,519 my very big score-- an old friend of Simon's. 401 00:16:54,552 --> 00:16:56,721 And this friend is relevant why? 402 00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:59,691 I don't know. It's really a long shot. 403 00:16:59,724 --> 00:17:03,295 But the funny thing is, I didn't even find him on the Internet. 404 00:17:03,328 --> 00:17:06,131 I dug up his application from when he worked here, 405 00:17:06,164 --> 00:17:09,234 and under emergency contact, he put this guy. 406 00:17:09,267 --> 00:17:10,668 His name is Tom Greaver. 407 00:17:10,702 --> 00:17:12,170 Never mentioned him to me 408 00:17:12,204 --> 00:17:14,372 the whole time we knew each other, but 409 00:17:14,406 --> 00:17:16,241 put someone as your emergency contact, 410 00:17:16,274 --> 00:17:18,310 they've got to know a lot about you. 411 00:17:18,343 --> 00:17:20,645 Hmm. You should come to court. 412 00:17:20,678 --> 00:17:22,514 We're there because of you. 413 00:17:22,547 --> 00:17:24,249 MRS. JONES: Simon and I 414 00:17:24,282 --> 00:17:26,218 were incredibly close. 415 00:17:26,251 --> 00:17:30,222 We spoke twice a week-- Mondays and Thursdays. 416 00:17:30,255 --> 00:17:31,589 He always called me. 417 00:17:31,623 --> 00:17:34,092 7:30 at night. 418 00:17:34,126 --> 00:17:36,428 You could set your clock by it. 419 00:17:36,461 --> 00:17:39,164 And then one Thursday, um, 420 00:17:39,197 --> 00:17:41,666 a little over two months ago, my phone didn't ring, 421 00:17:41,699 --> 00:17:44,636 so I worried. 422 00:17:44,669 --> 00:17:47,339 And finally, 423 00:17:47,372 --> 00:17:50,742 despite my better judgment, I called him. 424 00:17:50,775 --> 00:17:52,477 Did he answer? 425 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:54,646 Yes and no. 426 00:17:54,679 --> 00:17:56,281 How do you mean? 427 00:17:56,314 --> 00:17:59,617 It was Simon, but it wasn't my Simon. 428 00:18:01,219 --> 00:18:03,588 He just sounded different. 429 00:18:03,621 --> 00:18:05,590 Muted. 430 00:18:05,623 --> 00:18:07,692 Like some part of him had disappeared 431 00:18:07,725 --> 00:18:10,362 or... been put away. 432 00:18:10,395 --> 00:18:12,297 And did you know at this point 433 00:18:12,330 --> 00:18:15,300 that he had started the Dep drug trial three days earlier? 434 00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:16,534 No. 435 00:18:16,568 --> 00:18:20,172 I just knew something was different. 436 00:18:20,205 --> 00:18:22,274 And not for the better. 437 00:18:22,307 --> 00:18:24,309 Your witness. 438 00:18:25,943 --> 00:18:27,212 Earth to TAC. 439 00:18:27,245 --> 00:18:28,646 Tell me what you see. 440 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,248 MARISSA: Well, because of the strategy 441 00:18:30,282 --> 00:18:31,916 you're using of starting with jurors 442 00:18:31,949 --> 00:18:34,586 who are predisposed to trust big companies, 443 00:18:34,619 --> 00:18:36,854 you're at a disadvantage coming out of the box. 444 00:18:36,888 --> 00:18:38,790 You began the morning with ten red jurors 445 00:18:38,823 --> 00:18:40,225 and only two green ones. 446 00:18:40,258 --> 00:18:41,526 And that hasn't changed. 447 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:43,261 But she doesn't know that. 448 00:18:43,295 --> 00:18:44,829 You mean Arti? How could she? 449 00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:47,199 ATTORNEY: Our condolences, Mrs. Jones. 450 00:18:47,232 --> 00:18:50,268 You said your son seemed, uh, 451 00:18:50,302 --> 00:18:51,469 different that day. 452 00:18:51,503 --> 00:18:53,338 He did. Did he mention 453 00:18:53,371 --> 00:18:56,308 to you that he had quit his job? 454 00:18:56,341 --> 00:18:57,642 No, he did not. 455 00:18:57,675 --> 00:18:59,744 Did he mention to you that he decided instead 456 00:18:59,777 --> 00:19:01,913 to become a bike messenger? 457 00:19:01,946 --> 00:19:04,249 No, he did not. 458 00:19:04,282 --> 00:19:06,884 And you've already testified that he hadn't confided in you 459 00:19:06,918 --> 00:19:09,754 that he was participating in a drug trial. 460 00:19:09,787 --> 00:19:13,291 So isn't it a bit... disingenuous 461 00:19:13,325 --> 00:19:15,560 to talk about how close you were? 462 00:19:15,593 --> 00:19:18,496 And couldn't it be that the reason 463 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:22,667 he sounded-- what word did you use?-- muted was because 464 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:24,502 he was keeping so many secrets from you? 465 00:19:24,536 --> 00:19:25,503 BENNY: Objection! 466 00:19:25,537 --> 00:19:27,872 The counselor has asked two questions in a row 467 00:19:27,905 --> 00:19:29,774 without letting the witness answer. 468 00:19:29,807 --> 00:19:31,376 Sustained. 469 00:19:31,409 --> 00:19:35,347 Mr. Hansen, if you could please ask one question 470 00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:37,249 and wait for the witness to answer. 471 00:19:39,284 --> 00:19:42,720 Mrs. Jones, do you have any education 472 00:19:42,754 --> 00:19:45,923 or certification or training of any kind 473 00:19:45,957 --> 00:19:48,260 that allows you to hypothesize 474 00:19:48,293 --> 00:19:50,662 from hearing someone's voice on the phone 475 00:19:50,695 --> 00:19:52,697 whether they have been affected in any way 476 00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:54,766 by a medication they might have taken? 477 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,269 No, I do not. 478 00:19:58,470 --> 00:20:01,706 No further questions. 479 00:20:01,739 --> 00:20:03,808 There is so little movement here, I'm starting to wonder 480 00:20:03,841 --> 00:20:05,877 if we're having a systems failure. 481 00:20:05,910 --> 00:20:09,681 I'm trying to put a good face on this, but you're not helping. 482 00:20:13,618 --> 00:20:15,620 (crowd chatter) 483 00:20:17,922 --> 00:20:19,924 Kevin? Kevin Wright? 484 00:20:19,957 --> 00:20:23,695 Hi. Um, can I ask you some questions 485 00:20:23,728 --> 00:20:26,230 about a clinical trial you participated in? 486 00:20:33,605 --> 00:20:35,340 You were in the Dep Pharmaceutical 487 00:20:35,373 --> 00:20:37,409 antidepressant trial, yeah? 488 00:20:37,442 --> 00:20:39,010 That was supposed to be confidential. 489 00:20:39,043 --> 00:20:40,545 It's not something I'm really anxious 490 00:20:40,578 --> 00:20:42,747 for people to know about. 491 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:44,582 I'm sorry if I startled you. 492 00:20:44,616 --> 00:20:46,884 It's just... 493 00:20:46,918 --> 00:20:50,488 one of the other participants, Simon Jones, died. 494 00:20:50,522 --> 00:20:52,757 Committed suicide, actually. 495 00:20:54,091 --> 00:20:57,295 I'm just trying to figure out what happened. 496 00:20:58,330 --> 00:21:00,865 Did you know each other well? 497 00:21:00,898 --> 00:21:03,501 Uh, we never really hung out or anything, but... 498 00:21:03,535 --> 00:21:05,970 we ended up in a lot of the same trials. 499 00:21:06,003 --> 00:21:08,740 Once you do one, and you see how easy it is, 500 00:21:08,773 --> 00:21:12,043 how much money they pay... 501 00:21:12,076 --> 00:21:15,012 We were both what they call healthy volunteers, 502 00:21:15,046 --> 00:21:17,715 and there was a big demand for that, so... 503 00:21:18,816 --> 00:21:20,985 I'm sorry. Uh, my head is spinning. 504 00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:22,820 It's a shock. 505 00:21:22,854 --> 00:21:25,357 Well, forgive me. What's a healthy volunteer? 506 00:21:25,390 --> 00:21:27,024 Uh, people who don't have the illness 507 00:21:27,058 --> 00:21:28,460 the drug is being tested for. 508 00:21:28,493 --> 00:21:29,627 Got it. 509 00:21:29,661 --> 00:21:30,962 Well, last question. 510 00:21:30,995 --> 00:21:32,997 Why did you drop out of the study? 511 00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:35,066 KEVIN: When I'm not working at the gym, 512 00:21:35,099 --> 00:21:36,434 I'm training for marathons. 513 00:21:36,468 --> 00:21:38,636 I try to do six to eight miles a day. 514 00:21:38,670 --> 00:21:39,771 Been doing it for years. 515 00:21:39,804 --> 00:21:43,708 But a couple of days after I started the Dep trial, I... 516 00:21:43,741 --> 00:21:46,811 I don't know. I... 517 00:21:46,844 --> 00:21:51,349 I started having these feelings of... dread. 518 00:21:51,383 --> 00:21:54,085 I was supposed to fly to Chicago for a friend's wedding. 519 00:21:54,118 --> 00:21:56,754 Couldn't get on the plane. 520 00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:58,823 Became convinced that it was gonna crash. 521 00:21:58,856 --> 00:22:03,361 And that same weekend-- I think it was Saturday morning-- 522 00:22:03,395 --> 00:22:05,497 I couldn't get out of bed. 523 00:22:05,530 --> 00:22:08,400 Just skipped training altogether, and I never do that. 524 00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:11,068 But then the next day, Sunday, 525 00:22:11,102 --> 00:22:13,137 I'm running across Brooklyn Bridge, 526 00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:16,441 and I'm staring down at the water, 527 00:22:16,474 --> 00:22:20,044 and the next thing I know, I stop 528 00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:23,080 and I'm figuring out how to get over the rail 529 00:22:23,114 --> 00:22:27,519 and onto the crossbeam so I can jump, 530 00:22:27,552 --> 00:22:29,921 because that's what my body wants to do. 531 00:22:29,954 --> 00:22:32,524 It wants to fall. 532 00:22:32,557 --> 00:22:35,493 It wants to be in the water. 533 00:22:35,527 --> 00:22:37,361 It wants to never come back up. 534 00:22:39,564 --> 00:22:42,534 But I stopped myself. I... 535 00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:44,802 sat down there right on the bridge, 536 00:22:44,836 --> 00:22:46,704 tried to breathe. 537 00:22:46,738 --> 00:22:49,674 Called my parents. 538 00:22:49,707 --> 00:22:51,543 I didn't want to die, 539 00:22:51,576 --> 00:22:56,047 but my mind was telling me to let go. 540 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,582 There's nothing scarier than realizing your brain 541 00:22:57,615 --> 00:22:59,551 is plotting against you. 542 00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:05,022 No further questions, Your Honor. 543 00:23:05,056 --> 00:23:07,124 MARISSA: Ah, things are looking up. 544 00:23:07,158 --> 00:23:10,161 Two of theirs just became two of ours. 545 00:23:10,194 --> 00:23:11,963 (speaking low, indistinctly) 546 00:23:11,996 --> 00:23:14,599 JUDGE: Does the defense have any questions for the witness? 547 00:23:15,767 --> 00:23:18,202 HANSEN: Morning, sir. 548 00:23:18,235 --> 00:23:20,472 Do you recognize this document? 549 00:23:20,505 --> 00:23:22,206 I-I do. 550 00:23:22,239 --> 00:23:23,908 It's a consent form I signed 551 00:23:23,941 --> 00:23:26,544 to participate in the Dep Pharmaceutical trial. 552 00:23:26,578 --> 00:23:28,446 And, uh, is this your signature 553 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,981 at the bottom of it? 554 00:23:30,014 --> 00:23:31,148 It is. 555 00:23:31,182 --> 00:23:33,084 And, uh, can you tell us the purpose 556 00:23:33,117 --> 00:23:35,887 of the mandatory washout period? 557 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,457 It's mentioned in the third paragraph there. 558 00:23:39,491 --> 00:23:43,995 It's, uh, the period of time between drug trials. 559 00:23:44,028 --> 00:23:46,564 It's something the companies insist on. 560 00:23:46,598 --> 00:23:49,667 It exists to make sure their drugs don't interact 561 00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:52,069 with someone else's drugs from an earlier trial. 562 00:23:52,103 --> 00:23:54,205 I think we've just been "Candered." 563 00:23:54,238 --> 00:23:56,908 HANSEN: And on this form you signed, 564 00:23:56,941 --> 00:23:59,577 how long is the specified washout period? 565 00:23:59,611 --> 00:24:01,879 It specifies 30 days. 566 00:24:01,913 --> 00:24:03,214 30 days. 567 00:24:03,247 --> 00:24:06,050 And what were you doing 27 days 568 00:24:06,083 --> 00:24:09,821 before you started the Dep Pharmaceutical trial? 569 00:24:09,854 --> 00:24:11,756 Remember, you are under oath. 570 00:24:12,857 --> 00:24:14,225 Well, I was doing a lot of things. 571 00:24:16,561 --> 00:24:19,831 But, uh, one of them was, I was finishing up 572 00:24:19,864 --> 00:24:22,166 the Manhattan Hill Medical painkiller trial. 573 00:24:22,199 --> 00:24:24,268 Last day, last dose. 574 00:24:24,301 --> 00:24:25,970 And do you happen to know if Simon Jones 575 00:24:26,003 --> 00:24:28,673 was in that trial as well? 576 00:24:28,706 --> 00:24:30,742 Um, yes, he was. 577 00:24:30,775 --> 00:24:32,910 What drug trial are they talking about? 578 00:24:32,944 --> 00:24:34,211 Where are they getting this 579 00:24:34,245 --> 00:24:36,047 and why don't we have it? 580 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,516 HANSEN: Is 27 days the same thing as 30 days? 581 00:24:38,550 --> 00:24:39,851 KEVIN: Of course not. HANSEN: Then how do you know 582 00:24:39,884 --> 00:24:41,285 it wasn't the interaction of the painkiller 583 00:24:41,318 --> 00:24:42,954 with the antidepressant that caused 584 00:24:42,987 --> 00:24:44,922 the suicidal ideation the two of you experienced? 585 00:24:44,956 --> 00:24:48,225 Because... I know. 586 00:24:48,259 --> 00:24:51,295 Look, we've done so many of these things. 587 00:24:51,328 --> 00:24:54,198 And it's... everyone does it. 588 00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:56,801 No further questions. 589 00:25:10,314 --> 00:25:12,149 I don't understand. You interviewed Kevin. DANNY: Yeah. 590 00:25:12,183 --> 00:25:14,318 Obviously he didn't tell me that he and Simon 591 00:25:14,351 --> 00:25:16,654 weren't living up to their consent form agreements. BULL: Well. 592 00:25:16,688 --> 00:25:19,924 And there was no way of knowing about the other drug trial. 593 00:25:19,957 --> 00:25:23,060 Drug trials in the research stages of pre-FDA approval 594 00:25:23,094 --> 00:25:24,729 don't need to be reported. 595 00:25:24,762 --> 00:25:27,298 Well, Dep knew about it. BENNY: No. 596 00:25:27,331 --> 00:25:30,735 My guess is, Manhattan Hill Medical tipped them off. 597 00:25:30,768 --> 00:25:34,071 These drug companies are fiercely competitive, 598 00:25:34,105 --> 00:25:37,174 but they don't like the idea of being taken to the cleaners 599 00:25:37,208 --> 00:25:40,277 by some guinea pig that they use to pay chump change 600 00:25:40,311 --> 00:25:41,345 to test their new products. 601 00:25:41,378 --> 00:25:42,780 Where are we with the jurors? 602 00:25:42,814 --> 00:25:44,616 Ten against us, two for us. 603 00:25:44,649 --> 00:25:46,651 There's no movement at all? 604 00:25:46,684 --> 00:25:48,920 Sometimes it goes to 11 against us. 605 00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:53,124 How about that emergency contact guy? Tom? 606 00:25:53,157 --> 00:25:55,192 Tom Greaver. I can't find him. 607 00:25:55,226 --> 00:25:57,629 Nor can I. 608 00:25:57,662 --> 00:25:59,664 He's virtually invisible online. 609 00:25:59,697 --> 00:26:02,166 What about tracking down other participants in Simon's trial? 610 00:26:02,199 --> 00:26:04,101 (scoffs) We're all trying. 611 00:26:04,135 --> 00:26:08,072 Okay. Who is, uh, our next witness, counselor? 612 00:26:08,105 --> 00:26:12,076 We, uh, really don't have one. 613 00:26:13,945 --> 00:26:15,947 Terrific. 614 00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:17,949 Tomorrow morning when we rest our non-case, 615 00:26:17,982 --> 00:26:19,917 the only mystery will be, 616 00:26:19,951 --> 00:26:22,219 is the defense gonna have a field day toying with us, 617 00:26:22,253 --> 00:26:25,389 or will they be humane and ask for an immediate dismissal? 618 00:26:25,422 --> 00:26:28,392 I'm sorry, Dr. Bull. 619 00:26:28,425 --> 00:26:30,862 I never should have come to you with this. 620 00:26:30,895 --> 00:26:34,165 Well, that's why I normally make it a point 621 00:26:34,198 --> 00:26:36,634 not to work on behalf of immature slackers 622 00:26:36,668 --> 00:26:38,102 who quit without notice, 623 00:26:38,135 --> 00:26:39,871 lie without giving it a second thought, 624 00:26:39,904 --> 00:26:42,039 and jump off rooftops without any regard 625 00:26:42,073 --> 00:26:44,876 for the people they leave behind. 626 00:26:44,909 --> 00:26:47,679 But that's just me. 627 00:26:49,446 --> 00:26:51,415 (sniffles) 628 00:26:51,448 --> 00:26:53,651 (door closes) 629 00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:56,988 (knocking on glass) He's busy. 630 00:26:57,021 --> 00:26:59,023 (door opens, footsteps approaching) 631 00:27:01,392 --> 00:27:03,260 Pretty, uh... 632 00:27:03,294 --> 00:27:05,997 Pretty savage out there, huh? 633 00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,733 I don't like to lose. 634 00:27:08,766 --> 00:27:10,301 The case or the girl? 635 00:27:10,334 --> 00:27:12,036 Oh, please. 636 00:27:12,069 --> 00:27:16,307 No. You didn't do us any favors with the jury. 637 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:20,377 Only people who trust corporations? That... 638 00:27:20,411 --> 00:27:22,780 That is a hell of a mountain to climb 639 00:27:22,814 --> 00:27:26,684 when you're trying to prove corporate malfeasance. 640 00:27:26,718 --> 00:27:29,921 And don't try to tell me it wasn't for that girl. 641 00:27:29,954 --> 00:27:32,790 "I'm Dr. Bull. Here... 642 00:27:32,824 --> 00:27:34,926 "I'll give you the jurors that you want, 643 00:27:34,959 --> 00:27:37,194 and I'll still beat you, right?" 644 00:27:37,228 --> 00:27:38,896 You happy now? 645 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:40,397 You rode to the rescue and reminded me 646 00:27:40,431 --> 00:27:42,466 there's plenty of blame to go around. 647 00:27:42,499 --> 00:27:45,402 Benny the hero. 648 00:27:45,436 --> 00:27:47,705 Now leave me alone. 649 00:27:47,739 --> 00:27:49,240 I'm preparing for tomorrow. 650 00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:55,713 (door opens) 651 00:27:55,747 --> 00:27:57,715 (gavel bangs) 652 00:27:57,749 --> 00:27:59,216 JUDGE: Mr. Hansen, call your first witness. 653 00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:00,785 HANSEN: The defense would like 654 00:28:00,818 --> 00:28:02,787 to call Tom Greaver to the stand. 655 00:28:07,058 --> 00:28:09,326 How the hell did they find him? (door closes) 656 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:13,030 The more important question is... why? 657 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,434 TOM: We met in college. 658 00:28:17,468 --> 00:28:19,470 Liked all the same stuff-- 659 00:28:19,503 --> 00:28:21,906 drinking beers, listening to music. 660 00:28:21,939 --> 00:28:23,474 Drinking beers? 661 00:28:23,507 --> 00:28:24,942 You know, on Simon's consent form, 662 00:28:24,976 --> 00:28:26,510 he said that he doesn't drink. 663 00:28:26,543 --> 00:28:28,312 Well, this was a long time ago. 664 00:28:28,345 --> 00:28:29,914 We were 18. 665 00:28:29,947 --> 00:28:32,283 I'm pretty sure he was telling the truth. 666 00:28:32,316 --> 00:28:34,318 In fact, I'm certain of it. 667 00:28:34,351 --> 00:28:36,353 And what makes you so certain? 668 00:28:36,387 --> 00:28:38,155 Did something happen? 669 00:28:38,189 --> 00:28:40,958 Yeah. 670 00:28:40,992 --> 00:28:45,496 Around the same time, freshman year, 671 00:28:45,529 --> 00:28:47,799 Simon OD'd on heroin. 672 00:28:47,832 --> 00:28:49,500 (gasps) (shocked murmuring) 673 00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:50,501 Oh, my God. 674 00:28:50,534 --> 00:28:52,169 No. 675 00:28:52,203 --> 00:28:54,471 Happened at my house. 676 00:28:54,505 --> 00:28:57,008 He came home with me one weekend. 677 00:28:57,041 --> 00:29:00,044 My mom was an emergency room nurse 678 00:29:00,077 --> 00:29:01,745 and she saved him by giving him Narcan. 679 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,016 No one ever knew. 680 00:29:05,049 --> 00:29:06,283 There was no record. 681 00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:10,822 I know his parents never knew. 682 00:29:11,856 --> 00:29:13,490 After that... 683 00:29:14,525 --> 00:29:17,094 ...he just went completely sober. 684 00:29:17,128 --> 00:29:20,932 No drugs, no alcohol, no nothing. 685 00:29:20,965 --> 00:29:22,800 You think the overdose was intentional? 686 00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:25,069 Objection. Counselor calling for speculation. 687 00:29:25,102 --> 00:29:27,304 I'll withdraw the question. 688 00:29:27,338 --> 00:29:29,907 Yeah, but he can't withdraw the inference. 689 00:29:29,941 --> 00:29:32,309 She's good, damn it. 690 00:29:32,343 --> 00:29:34,812 She's killing us. 691 00:29:34,846 --> 00:29:37,448 She is representing her client like a pit bull, 692 00:29:37,481 --> 00:29:39,250 and she's not gonna let a pesky thing 693 00:29:39,283 --> 00:29:40,918 like the truth stand in her way. 694 00:29:40,952 --> 00:29:42,119 MARISSA: Bull, I'm sorry to interrupt, 695 00:29:42,153 --> 00:29:45,156 but we just went to 12 red jurors. 696 00:29:45,189 --> 00:29:46,557 (computer beeps) Yes! Yes, I got it. 697 00:29:46,590 --> 00:29:48,125 I got it. 698 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:50,862 Tell them to request a recess, a break. 699 00:29:50,895 --> 00:29:52,997 I found him. 700 00:29:53,030 --> 00:29:54,598 I found Tom Greaver. 701 00:29:54,631 --> 00:29:57,168 He changed his name. 702 00:30:02,173 --> 00:30:03,540 So we misdirect here, then we... 703 00:30:03,574 --> 00:30:05,242 BENNY: Cable. 704 00:30:05,276 --> 00:30:07,411 Thank you for these. 705 00:30:12,283 --> 00:30:14,251 I'm really glad you came. 706 00:30:14,285 --> 00:30:15,987 Yeah. 707 00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:17,388 Hope it makes a difference. 708 00:30:17,421 --> 00:30:19,423 Oh, I think it might. 709 00:30:21,025 --> 00:30:23,527 I'm glad you came, too. 710 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,430 And if I was harsh last night... 711 00:30:26,463 --> 00:30:29,066 Oh, you were. 712 00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,302 But we've been together a while, 713 00:30:31,335 --> 00:30:33,204 so I know it's only because you care. 714 00:30:33,237 --> 00:30:34,972 I hate to lose. 715 00:30:37,108 --> 00:30:38,609 Let's go with yours. 716 00:30:38,642 --> 00:30:41,278 BENNY: That was, uh... 717 00:30:41,312 --> 00:30:43,247 quite a fascinating story you told 718 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,316 about your friend Simon just before we adjourned. 719 00:30:45,349 --> 00:30:48,085 It wasn't a story. 720 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,487 I didn't mean to imply anything, Mr. Greaver. 721 00:30:50,521 --> 00:30:53,490 But I am curious. 722 00:30:53,524 --> 00:30:57,428 Your mom kept Narcan at home? 723 00:30:57,461 --> 00:30:59,363 Well, like I said, she was an emergency room nurse. 724 00:30:59,396 --> 00:31:01,198 Still... 725 00:31:01,232 --> 00:31:05,269 was she anticipating your best friend suffering an overdose 726 00:31:05,302 --> 00:31:07,638 or was she just the best prepared mom on the block? 727 00:31:07,671 --> 00:31:09,440 Objection. Calls for speculation, 728 00:31:09,473 --> 00:31:11,475 and counselor's tone is provocative. 729 00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:12,643 I'll withdraw the question. 730 00:31:12,676 --> 00:31:15,279 Now, if I wanted 731 00:31:15,312 --> 00:31:18,249 to corroborate this story, who can I speak to? 732 00:31:18,282 --> 00:31:20,384 Say, your mom, or...? 733 00:31:20,417 --> 00:31:21,953 Unfortunately, she passed four years ago. 734 00:31:21,986 --> 00:31:24,321 I'm so sorry to hear that. 735 00:31:24,355 --> 00:31:28,259 Okay. All right. So-so-so let's review. 736 00:31:28,292 --> 00:31:29,927 Your mother's no longer with us. 737 00:31:29,961 --> 00:31:31,528 Simon is no longer with us. 738 00:31:31,562 --> 00:31:33,697 Really, the only person that we can rely on 739 00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:36,500 regarding the truthfulness of the story is-is you. 740 00:31:36,533 --> 00:31:38,102 Isn't that correct? 741 00:31:38,135 --> 00:31:40,304 Yeah. I suppose that's true. 742 00:31:40,337 --> 00:31:43,240 The only reason I mention it, is... 743 00:31:43,274 --> 00:31:47,544 we can't find any history whatsoever on Simon, 744 00:31:47,578 --> 00:31:50,181 with regard to drug use. 745 00:31:50,214 --> 00:31:52,283 None. 746 00:31:52,316 --> 00:31:56,220 But there is quite a dossier on a fellow named Tom Belmond, 747 00:31:56,253 --> 00:31:58,956 who went to college with you and Simon. 748 00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:02,259 Arrests for, uh, possession. 749 00:32:02,293 --> 00:32:03,560 Arrests for sales of narcotics. 750 00:32:03,594 --> 00:32:05,129 Three hospitalizations 751 00:32:05,162 --> 00:32:07,298 for overdoses, and then, 752 00:32:07,331 --> 00:32:08,665 ultimately, of course, expulsion. 753 00:32:08,699 --> 00:32:10,301 BULL: What's that sound? 754 00:32:10,334 --> 00:32:12,469 Is that the sound of jurors starting to move? 755 00:32:12,503 --> 00:32:15,339 Do you happen to know a Tom Belmond? 756 00:32:15,372 --> 00:32:17,574 I'm-I'm sorry. 757 00:32:17,608 --> 00:32:19,543 I-I didn't hear your response. 758 00:32:19,576 --> 00:32:21,312 You ever hear of a Tom Belmond? 759 00:32:23,647 --> 00:32:25,449 I see, you're-you're having trouble with this. 760 00:32:25,482 --> 00:32:28,719 Okay. All right. I-I'll make it a little easier for you. 761 00:32:30,187 --> 00:32:31,622 Aren't you Tom Belmond? 762 00:32:31,655 --> 00:32:34,191 Objection. Is the attorney asking questions 763 00:32:34,225 --> 00:32:36,360 or making third party pronouncements? 764 00:32:36,393 --> 00:32:37,394 Sustained. 765 00:32:37,428 --> 00:32:38,729 Ask a question, counselor. 766 00:32:38,762 --> 00:32:40,397 I'm sorry, Your Honor. 767 00:32:40,431 --> 00:32:42,533 You just got back your two jurors from yesterday. 768 00:32:42,566 --> 00:32:45,002 I feel the wind shifting. BENNY: Didn't you change your name 769 00:32:45,036 --> 00:32:47,371 from Tom Belmond to Tom Greaver precisely, 770 00:32:47,404 --> 00:32:49,040 so you can avoid having to mention 771 00:32:49,073 --> 00:32:50,774 your arrest history, your history with drugs, 772 00:32:50,807 --> 00:32:53,244 while seeking employment and housing... 773 00:32:53,277 --> 00:32:55,779 I wanted a fresh start, okay? 774 00:32:55,812 --> 00:32:58,049 I made a lot of mistakes as a kid, but... 775 00:32:58,082 --> 00:33:00,451 MARISSA: One more just came over. 776 00:33:00,484 --> 00:33:03,187 We are now at nine red and three green. BENNY: And isn't it true 777 00:33:03,220 --> 00:33:05,322 your mother smuggled Narcan out of the emergency room, 778 00:33:05,356 --> 00:33:07,458 not because she was worried about Simon, 779 00:33:07,491 --> 00:33:09,426 who had no interest in drugs, 780 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:11,228 but because she was terrified 781 00:33:11,262 --> 00:33:13,097 that her own son might overdose one day? 782 00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:14,365 Objection. And the story 783 00:33:14,398 --> 00:33:17,401 about Simon Jones attempting to commit suicide 784 00:33:17,434 --> 00:33:19,303 eight years ago with heroin was just that. 785 00:33:19,336 --> 00:33:21,338 It was just a story, right? Objection. 786 00:33:21,372 --> 00:33:24,308 Again, these are pronouncements, not questions, Your Honor. 787 00:33:24,341 --> 00:33:26,477 One more green light. 788 00:33:26,510 --> 00:33:28,645 They've got eight, and we've got four. 789 00:33:28,679 --> 00:33:30,447 Now the fun really begins. 790 00:33:30,481 --> 00:33:32,549 Well, then, here's the question: how much did Dep pay you 791 00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:35,152 to take the stand and perjure yourself today, 792 00:33:35,186 --> 00:33:36,787 Mr. Greaver or Mr. Belmond, 793 00:33:36,820 --> 00:33:38,555 or whoever you say you are?! Objection, 794 00:33:38,589 --> 00:33:40,124 Your Honor. Sustained. 795 00:33:40,157 --> 00:33:41,492 No problem, Your Honor. 796 00:33:41,525 --> 00:33:43,694 Question withdrawn. (galley murmuring) 797 00:33:43,727 --> 00:33:45,396 I think I'd rather not know. 798 00:33:45,429 --> 00:33:47,564 No further questions, please. 799 00:33:47,598 --> 00:33:50,167 How's that for an inference? 800 00:33:50,201 --> 00:33:51,335 MARISSA: Now we've got five, 801 00:33:51,368 --> 00:33:52,536 and they've got seven. 802 00:33:52,569 --> 00:33:53,704 BULL: Nice work. 803 00:33:53,737 --> 00:33:56,140 JUDGE: Court will resume tomorrow morning. (gavel bangs) 804 00:33:58,175 --> 00:34:00,177 Read any good jurors lately? 805 00:34:00,211 --> 00:34:01,645 Well, yes, I have. 806 00:34:01,678 --> 00:34:04,481 And I suspect that you have, too. 807 00:34:04,515 --> 00:34:06,383 But we both know that I'm reading 808 00:34:06,417 --> 00:34:07,818 more good jurors than you are, Dr. Bull, 809 00:34:07,851 --> 00:34:10,221 so stop trying to play with me. 810 00:34:10,254 --> 00:34:12,289 Although, I suspect 811 00:34:12,323 --> 00:34:15,492 that at some point, we might get to that, too. 812 00:34:16,493 --> 00:34:18,495 (traffic sounds) 813 00:34:22,133 --> 00:34:24,101 (pounding on door) 814 00:34:27,138 --> 00:34:29,273 Hi. Sorry to bother you. 815 00:34:29,306 --> 00:34:31,308 I'm looking for Edgar Paulson? 816 00:34:36,747 --> 00:34:38,715 CHUNK: Mr. Paulson's name 817 00:34:38,749 --> 00:34:40,451 is on a list of people who participated 818 00:34:40,484 --> 00:34:42,519 in a drug trial that we're investigating. 819 00:34:42,553 --> 00:34:44,455 (chuckles): It took me a while to track him down. 820 00:34:44,488 --> 00:34:46,490 Is there any way I could speak to him? 821 00:34:46,523 --> 00:34:49,626 I'm sorry. Uh, Mr. Paulson's no longer with us. 822 00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:53,497 Is there any way you could share a forwarding address? 823 00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:55,299 Some way to contact him? 824 00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,403 Mr. Paulson hung himself 825 00:34:59,436 --> 00:35:01,472 about three and a half weeks ago. 826 00:35:01,505 --> 00:35:03,407 (exhales) 827 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,709 I'm so sorry. 828 00:35:05,742 --> 00:35:07,378 I had no idea. 829 00:35:07,411 --> 00:35:09,513 I actually checked all the names on this list 830 00:35:09,546 --> 00:35:11,448 for deaths and hospitalizations. 831 00:35:11,482 --> 00:35:13,550 I don't know how that got past me. 832 00:35:13,584 --> 00:35:15,586 I'm sure it'll show up shortly. 833 00:35:15,619 --> 00:35:17,188 The woman who took care of him, 834 00:35:17,221 --> 00:35:19,523 she struck me as very thorough. 835 00:35:19,556 --> 00:35:20,891 A woman? 836 00:35:20,924 --> 00:35:23,694 Well, someone he worked with. Or for. 837 00:35:23,727 --> 00:35:25,662 She would stop by here. 838 00:35:25,696 --> 00:35:27,564 Make sure he took his medicine. 839 00:35:27,598 --> 00:35:29,700 Gave him money occasionally. 840 00:35:29,733 --> 00:35:32,469 She stopped by to see him the morning we found him. 841 00:35:32,503 --> 00:35:34,738 She was terribly upset. 842 00:35:34,771 --> 00:35:36,873 Took care of all the details. 843 00:35:36,907 --> 00:35:39,443 Even paid for his cremation. 844 00:35:39,476 --> 00:35:43,280 Would you happen to have her name? This woman? 845 00:35:43,314 --> 00:35:44,381 TESSA: My name is Tessa Snyder. 846 00:35:44,415 --> 00:35:48,419 I am Chief Executive Officer for Dep Pharmaceutical. 847 00:35:48,452 --> 00:35:50,254 Have been for about three years now. 848 00:35:50,287 --> 00:35:51,655 And can you tell the jury 849 00:35:51,688 --> 00:35:53,457 what we're doing here today? 850 00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:56,427 And by that I mean we all know drug companies 851 00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:59,230 face legal actions like this all the time. 852 00:35:59,263 --> 00:36:01,298 Usually they're settled out of court. 853 00:36:01,332 --> 00:36:04,668 But why did you, a young CEO, choose to fight this out 854 00:36:04,701 --> 00:36:06,470 in a public forum? BULL: Nice move. 855 00:36:06,503 --> 00:36:09,440 She's turning the very fact that we're suing her client 856 00:36:09,473 --> 00:36:11,842 into a laudable thing in the eyes of the jury. 857 00:36:11,875 --> 00:36:13,810 I may steal that. 858 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,482 One, this company has an unblemished record 859 00:36:18,515 --> 00:36:21,218 with regard to drug and testing safety. 860 00:36:21,252 --> 00:36:24,788 And two, this new drug-- 861 00:36:24,821 --> 00:36:27,591 the first created under my leadership-- 862 00:36:27,624 --> 00:36:30,527 is truly a pharmaceutical miracle 863 00:36:30,561 --> 00:36:32,963 for people who suffer from depression. 864 00:36:32,996 --> 00:36:36,867 I welcomed the opportunity to tell the court, 865 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:38,969 the jury, the world, about it. 866 00:36:39,002 --> 00:36:40,537 And can you tell the jury 867 00:36:40,571 --> 00:36:42,573 why you conduct 868 00:36:42,606 --> 00:36:45,242 these clinical trials? 869 00:36:45,276 --> 00:36:46,677 Well, the first thing you need to know 870 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:50,547 is I got into this business to help ease 871 00:36:50,581 --> 00:36:51,915 human suffering. 872 00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:53,784 I mention that 873 00:36:53,817 --> 00:36:57,354 because I need you to know how deeply sorry I am 874 00:36:57,388 --> 00:36:58,555 for the Jones family's loss. 875 00:36:58,589 --> 00:37:01,358 BULL: Excellent segue. Nicely written. 876 00:37:01,392 --> 00:37:02,959 Nicely performed. 877 00:37:02,993 --> 00:37:04,661 Having said that, 878 00:37:04,695 --> 00:37:06,763 we did nothing wrong. 879 00:37:06,797 --> 00:37:09,566 Simon was screened. 880 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,403 The fact that he was not completely truthful 881 00:37:12,436 --> 00:37:13,737 is not something we can control. 882 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:14,971 MARISSA: Just so you know, 883 00:37:15,005 --> 00:37:17,308 our mirror jury is loving her. 884 00:37:17,341 --> 00:37:18,442 How can you not? 885 00:37:22,078 --> 00:37:25,416 And while we need to do better 886 00:37:25,449 --> 00:37:26,583 to ferret out the liars, 887 00:37:26,617 --> 00:37:28,652 we can't let it stop our work. 888 00:37:28,685 --> 00:37:30,954 These clinical trials exist for the greater good. 889 00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:32,889 Without them, 890 00:37:32,923 --> 00:37:36,427 there wouldn't be medical innovations and discoveries, 891 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:37,861 new cures for everything 892 00:37:37,894 --> 00:37:40,464 from reproductive health to cancer. 893 00:37:40,497 --> 00:37:41,832 BULL: Something's going on. 894 00:37:41,865 --> 00:37:44,601 She's targeting juror three. Why? 895 00:37:44,635 --> 00:37:46,803 Well, she's one of our greens, and she just went red. 896 00:37:46,837 --> 00:37:49,740 Her friend recently passed from cancer. 897 00:37:49,773 --> 00:37:53,444 Wow. This woman will do anything to win. 898 00:37:53,477 --> 00:37:54,978 Reminds me of me. 899 00:37:58,649 --> 00:38:00,651 BENNY: Good morning, Ms. Snyder. 900 00:38:00,684 --> 00:38:02,719 Isn't it true that one of the major problems 901 00:38:02,753 --> 00:38:06,690 these clinical trials face is recruiting subjects? 902 00:38:06,723 --> 00:38:10,561 I mean... I can't believe that there's lots of people 903 00:38:10,594 --> 00:38:13,730 who are willing to put untested drugs into their bodies 904 00:38:13,764 --> 00:38:15,732 for whatever you're willing to pay them. 905 00:38:15,766 --> 00:38:18,769 Well, it's certainly a lot easier 906 00:38:18,802 --> 00:38:20,837 to find subjects who suffer from whatever condition 907 00:38:20,871 --> 00:38:21,938 we're trying to target. 908 00:38:21,972 --> 00:38:24,475 Yes. 909 00:38:24,508 --> 00:38:26,410 It can be incredibly difficult 910 00:38:26,443 --> 00:38:28,645 finding healthy volunteers. 911 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:30,847 Truly healthy volunteers. 912 00:38:30,881 --> 00:38:34,785 BENNY: And yet, until this drug, until this lawsuit, 913 00:38:34,818 --> 00:38:36,953 your company had a rare spotless record. 914 00:38:36,987 --> 00:38:39,356 None of the healthy volunteers 915 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:41,124 in the 50 so years 916 00:38:41,157 --> 00:38:42,959 that the company has been in existence ever... 917 00:38:42,993 --> 00:38:45,629 filed a claim or sought a settlement. 918 00:38:45,662 --> 00:38:47,431 Is that why 919 00:38:47,464 --> 00:38:48,665 you decided to hide the other suicide 920 00:38:48,699 --> 00:38:50,401 amongst the ten healthy volunteers? 921 00:38:50,434 --> 00:38:51,835 (shocked murmuring) 922 00:38:55,105 --> 00:38:57,107 I love that sound. 923 00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:59,476 Me, too. 924 00:38:59,510 --> 00:39:01,144 I have no idea what you're talking about. 925 00:39:01,177 --> 00:39:03,814 Well, does the name Edgar Paulson ring a bell? 926 00:39:05,616 --> 00:39:08,985 Edgar Paulson? 927 00:39:09,019 --> 00:39:10,887 A 62-year-old homeless man 928 00:39:10,921 --> 00:39:13,156 with dubious mental acuity 929 00:39:13,189 --> 00:39:16,026 who, up until the point that he hung himself, 930 00:39:16,059 --> 00:39:19,896 was living at the Light Mission Homeless Shelter? 931 00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:22,566 Is that Dep Pharmaceutical's idea 932 00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:24,401 of a healthy volunteer? 933 00:39:25,769 --> 00:39:27,804 MARISSA: Things are looking greener and greener over here. 934 00:39:27,838 --> 00:39:31,442 I think you're mistaken. 935 00:39:31,475 --> 00:39:33,810 Mr. Paulson was in absolutely fine... 936 00:39:33,844 --> 00:39:36,747 physical and mental shape. 937 00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:39,082 He had fallen on hard times financially, 938 00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:41,685 and that had taken a toll on his disposition. 939 00:39:41,718 --> 00:39:44,555 But from a purely clinical standpoint, 940 00:39:44,588 --> 00:39:46,657 Mr. Paulson was an ideal subject. 941 00:39:46,690 --> 00:39:50,461 Additionally, he finished the trial successfully. 942 00:39:50,494 --> 00:39:53,196 Anything that may have befallen him after that... 943 00:39:53,229 --> 00:39:54,865 Six days after that? 944 00:39:54,898 --> 00:39:56,633 Again, Mr. Paulson 945 00:39:56,667 --> 00:40:00,604 suffered from crushing financial problems. 946 00:40:00,637 --> 00:40:03,807 I can only speculate that that may be why he took his own life. 947 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,977 There's no causation there. Ah. 948 00:40:07,010 --> 00:40:09,746 I guess we'll never know, will we, Ms. Snyder? 949 00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:12,549 Since you conveniently paid for the body to be cremated. 950 00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:13,784 (shocked murmuring) 951 00:40:13,817 --> 00:40:14,818 Objection. 952 00:40:14,851 --> 00:40:16,820 Relevance. 953 00:40:16,853 --> 00:40:17,921 Doesn't get more relevant than that. 954 00:40:17,954 --> 00:40:21,492 But please ask the witness a question 955 00:40:21,525 --> 00:40:23,794 as opposed to simply making a statement. 956 00:40:23,827 --> 00:40:26,830 Yes. Ms. Snyder, 957 00:40:26,863 --> 00:40:29,766 did you or did you not 958 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,603 arrange for the cremation of Mr. Edgar Paulson 959 00:40:32,636 --> 00:40:34,905 once you realized he had killed himself 960 00:40:34,938 --> 00:40:37,908 after a one month course of your new drug? 961 00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:42,245 (whispering) 962 00:40:42,278 --> 00:40:44,748 Ms. Snyder? 963 00:40:46,783 --> 00:40:48,519 BULL: Three... 964 00:40:48,552 --> 00:40:51,121 two... 965 00:40:52,823 --> 00:40:54,057 ...one. 966 00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:59,530 Your Honor, would it be possible to ask for a brief recess 967 00:40:59,563 --> 00:41:00,931 so the sides could meet privately 968 00:41:00,964 --> 00:41:02,666 for a short discussion? 969 00:41:02,699 --> 00:41:04,935 Can you say "settlement"? 970 00:41:04,968 --> 00:41:07,137 JUDGE: This court will take a 90 minute recess. 971 00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:08,739 (gavel bangs) 972 00:41:08,772 --> 00:41:10,140 (gallery murmuring) 973 00:41:26,623 --> 00:41:27,991 (gentle piano music plays in background) 974 00:41:28,024 --> 00:41:29,960 (door opens) 975 00:41:29,993 --> 00:41:32,028 (door closes) BULL: Oh. 976 00:41:32,062 --> 00:41:35,566 There you are. 977 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,868 Here I am. Oh. 978 00:41:37,901 --> 00:41:40,904 Miss? Uh, your oldest Scotch. Neat. 979 00:41:40,937 --> 00:41:42,606 And a glass of water, please. 980 00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:43,874 Okay. (chuckles) 981 00:41:43,907 --> 00:41:45,709 (sighs) 982 00:41:45,742 --> 00:41:47,744 You read my mind. 983 00:41:47,778 --> 00:41:49,846 But, then again, that's what you do. 984 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,115 And you do it very well, by the way. 985 00:41:55,151 --> 00:41:57,654 I, uh... 986 00:41:59,289 --> 00:42:02,593 I need you to know something. 987 00:42:02,626 --> 00:42:04,828 I didn't bribe that friend of Simon's. 988 00:42:04,861 --> 00:42:06,663 I'm not saying 989 00:42:06,697 --> 00:42:08,999 that I didn't sense that something might be afoot, but... 990 00:42:09,032 --> 00:42:11,101 I need you to know something. 991 00:42:11,134 --> 00:42:14,971 In the same way you inferred, without saying as much, 992 00:42:15,005 --> 00:42:17,240 that Simon attempted suicide with heroin-- 993 00:42:17,273 --> 00:42:20,577 even though I strongly suspect that's not what happened-- 994 00:42:20,611 --> 00:42:23,279 Benny and I 995 00:42:23,313 --> 00:42:27,083 decided to infer a little something 996 00:42:27,117 --> 00:42:29,586 that we had no way of knowing was true. 997 00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:31,321 Maybe someone bribed him. 998 00:42:31,354 --> 00:42:34,357 Maybe someone didn't. 999 00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:35,992 We took a shot. 1000 00:42:38,061 --> 00:42:40,063 Thank you. 1001 00:42:41,898 --> 00:42:44,067 Great minds. 1002 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,202 Here's to seeing you again. 1003 00:42:46,236 --> 00:42:48,038 Knowing better next time. 1004 00:42:48,071 --> 00:42:49,773 I already rue the day. 1005 00:42:49,806 --> 00:42:51,808 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1006 00:42:52,809 --> 00:42:54,811 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 73140

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