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(horns honking)
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(phone buzzes, rings)
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BENNY: If something edible
isn't put in front of me
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in the next three minutes,
I am not responsible
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for what I might do.
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Don't anybody shoot Benny
with a tranq gun.
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I just buzzed 'em in.
Food's on its way up.
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Ugh, food!
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* Glorious food
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* Hot sausage
and mustard *
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* Food, glorious food
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* Something, something,
and cus... tard. *
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Hey.
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Hey.
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DANNY:
Oh, hey, Simon.
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You finally come back
to say good-bye?
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Hey, Simple Simon,
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stop ogling over the help
and bring me over my grub.
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(chuckles)
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How have you been, Simon?
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Uh, good. You know?
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Just workin'.
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Uh, I'm in a bit
of a hurry, actually,
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so...
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I'll walk you out.
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Quite a career path he's on.
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From trial science technician
to bike messenger.
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(sighs)
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(sighs)
Well, that was weird.
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You know what's weird?
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A guy working somewhere
for four months
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and then suddenly
just not showing up.
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You know what else is weird?
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Uh, somebody dating somebody
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and then, all of a
sudden, they're gone.
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They've moved.
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Changed their number.
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Don't show up for work.
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E-mails bounce back.
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I'm sorry.
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I hope you weren't worried.
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Following people online
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when they don't want
to be followed,
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that's what I do.
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Three and a half weeks
is kind of a long time
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to not text somebody
that you care about.
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(elevator bell chimes)
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(doors open)
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I know I-I owe you
an explanation,
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but... I'm trying to get
this $30 bonus and, uh...
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$30.
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Cool. Well, don't let me waste
another second of your time.
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You can just have a nice life,
Simon.
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By the way, you
look like hell.
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Your eyes are bloodshot,
and your hands are shaking.
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Whatever you're doing, really...
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keep it up.
(elevator bell chimes)
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I'm sorry, Cable.
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*
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(distant siren wailing)
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* Baby, then there wouldn't be
a single thing we couldn't do *
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(excited chattering)
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* We could be married
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* We could be married *
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* Then we'd be happy
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* Then we'd be happy *
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(gasping)
Happy birthday.
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(excited chattering)
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(phone buzzes, ringing)
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* You know, it seems the more
we talk about it *
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* It only makes it worse
to live without it *
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* But let's talk about it
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* Wouldn't it be nice?
* Ooh, ooh, ooh
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* Run, run, ooh
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* Bah, bah-bah-bah,
bah-bah-bah *
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* Bah, bah, bah
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* Good night, my baby
(woman screaming)
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* Sleep tight, my baby
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* Good night, my baby
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* Sleep tight...
(siren wailing)
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(elevator bell chimes)
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MARISSA:
$10,000
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for Hamilton tickets, day of,
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fourth row center,
from a scalper.
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It's an absolutely justifiable
business expense.
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I had to pay off
the court clerk.
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Bull, I seriously doubt
the IRS will agree
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that illegal bribes
are deductible.
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Marissa, if I don't have a list
of the 75 potential jurors
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that make up the jury pool
at least a couple days
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before I walk
into that courtroom,
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then all of those people
on the other side of that door
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can't research them
and help me figure out
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if I want them or not.
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And since jury lists
are not supposed to be shared
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with either side,
Exactly.
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the only way
that I can do
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my job is to have that list.
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Otherwise, I'm just guessing.
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And any fool can guess.
(knocking)
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Come in!
Bad time?
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No. No, no. Perfect time.
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How was
the memorial service?
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CABLE:
Uh, I-I don't know.
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I don't have anything
to compare it to.
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I've never had a friend die
before.
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Is there any way
I could talk to you alone?
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CABLE:
I know you didn't know
Simon very well.
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(sighs)
Cable,
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a lot of assistants
come through here.
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It's no excuse.
You know, the
only reason
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he left here is because
he couldn't do nine-to-five.
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Everything had to be
his choice, all the time.
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When to wake up, what to do.
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Anyway, I'm sure
somebody told you,
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but he started working
as a bike messenger.
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It was kind of invented
for him,
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because he could just text
when he felt like working.
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And the other thing
he started to do, actually,
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about a year ago,
while he was working here,
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was working as a guinea pig
for pharmaceutical companies,
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testing new drugs.
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They pay a lot of money.
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And all he had to do
was remember
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to take one or two pills a day.
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I know you really cared
for him...
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I was talking to
some of his friends.
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It turns out he was doing
a trial for this company
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called Dep Pharmaceutical,
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testing this new kind of
antidepressant called Eutaline.
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The people that know Simon,
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they say it was the drug that
caused Simon to kill himself.
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Cable, when people
are grieving...
They say
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he completely changed on it.
Even so,
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it doesn't mean
it made him suicidal.
That man
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loved life. He didn't drink, he
didn't smoke, he loved the gym.
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But he took pills for money.
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Look, his parents want to sue.
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And I told them I'd help.
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And I told them
I'd ask you if you'd help.
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They want money?
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They want answers.
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And they want to make sure
this drug never gets to market.
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And, yes, I'm sure
they want money, too.
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Hmm.
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Let me call Dep Pharmaceutical,
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see if I can't put a meeting
on the books for Benny and me.
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BENNY:
Nice of you to do this.
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Represent someone
I don't remember
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on a matter I know
almost nothing about
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to make his parents, whom
I've never met, feel better?
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Yeah, I'm a peach.
(chuckles)
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(heels clicking)
I sense our meeting
is about to begin.
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(door opens)
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Dr. Bull, you
have no idea
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what a treat it is
for me to meet you.
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And Benjamin Colón,
former ADA.
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for New York County and
in-house counsel for TAC.
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My name is Arti Cander.
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Please, have a seat.
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So you know why we're here?
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Absolutely.
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Our cofounder and CEO,
Tessa Snyder,
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is beside herself about this.
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You know, any time
anyone who is part
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of the Dep family passes,
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no matter how minor their role
in the company might be,
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it-it saddens all of us.
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You do understand we believe
there's a relationship
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between Mr. Jones' death
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and the antidepressant
he was testing for Dep.
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Really? I was, uh,
under the impression
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that he fell off a roof.
BENNY: Mm.
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Jumped.
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Well, this is the first
I've heard
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of any suicidal ideation
in relationship to this drug.
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Um, have you gentlemen...
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have you gentlemen done
your homework?
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You know, if this side effect
was even on our radar,
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we wouldn't be doing
human trials.
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Um, FDA would simply not hear
of it.
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Now, what can I do for you?
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You can shoot off a flare
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and let everybody
at the...
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Dep family
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know that we're not gonna
take you at your word
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that the new happy pill
you're getting ready to inflict
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on the general public
doesn't, in fact,
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make people want to shut off
the lights and call it a day.
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If you're looking
for a settlement...
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Oh, no. Thank you, Ms. Cander.
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Quite the name, by the way.
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Nothing like a little irony
on your driver's license
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to keep your mood in check.
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Says the man named Bull.
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Mm.
Let me save you some time,
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Arti, Simon's family
is not gonna settle,
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and there's no amount of money
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that's gonna convince them
otherwise.
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Oh, my.
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The famous Dr. Jason Bull,
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expert reader of human behavior,
just misread me.
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We have no interest
in settling.
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None.
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We're very happy to prove
in a court of law
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that this drug
is perfectly safe.
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It may not be safe.
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A man died while taking it.
Ah.
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So you say.
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Then court it shall be.
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Excellent.
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I assume you're general counsel
for Dep Pharmaceutical.
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Can I trouble you
for a card?
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I'm sorry to disappoint
you, Dr. Bull,
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but I'm not general counsel
for Dep.
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Then to whom
have I been speaking?
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I work for
Tessa Snyder.
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I'm her you.
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(chuckles)
Excuse me?
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I'm a trial scientist,
Dr. Bull.
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And I very much look forward
to seeing you in court.
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Please, feel free to
let yourselves out.
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*
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*
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(Bull sighs)
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(door opens)
BENNY:
Hey.
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You gonna be joining us?
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No. Go ahead without me.
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BENNY:
The big news is
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Dep Pharmaceutical is downright
anxious to go to court.
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Which leads me to believe
that they have rock solid
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information on Simon
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that they believe clears
them of any culpability.
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Cable?
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I'm digging,
but, honestly,
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I don't think there's
any "there" there.
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I knew Simon.
We all did.
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Wh-What about
the company itself?
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This is Tessa Snyder,
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the company CEO.
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A competitor once described her
as "a burning hot pepper
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disguised as an
ice cream sundae."
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Wow. Can't wait
to meet her.
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Danny?
Well, I'm trying to get a list
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of the other participants
in the study.
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And, believe it or not,
I may have a lead.
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Okay.
(clicks tongue)
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Well, I guess we'll wait
to hear from the big guy
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about voir dire.
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What's he doing in there?
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It's not what.
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It's who.
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BULL: Wait a second!
Isn't that London's
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Arti Cander?
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Is there nothing
she can't do?
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Graduated with honors from
Oxford, then moved to D.C.
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to became a lobbyist
in the candy industry.
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Tough job. No
one likes candy.
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And then decided to
start all over again
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and enter the trial
science business.
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Mm. Someone figured out
how to Google.
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You left out the part
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where I spent three years
at Georgetown
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studying law and human behavior.
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Oh, and you.
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I forgot to mention this
the other day, but
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I firmly do believe
that you are one
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of the two best
at what you do.
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Wait. Is this
the part where
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I'm supposed to say,
"But who's the other?"
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Oh, you don't have to say it...
just as long as you think it.
272
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So is it true you don't
use mirror jurors?
273
00:11:44,943 --> 00:11:46,344
Yeah, I've never
really seen the point.
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It's an extrapolation
once removed.
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Then how do you know what
the jurors are thinking?
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I read them... all by myself.
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You should try it sometime.
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Oh, I wouldn't know
where to begin.
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Perhaps after I've had
the opportunity to study you.
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Sorry. We're not taking
any new students at the moment.
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I'll see you in court, Dr. Bull.
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(low conversations)
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BENNY:
There he is.
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Dr. Jason Bull, this is Mr.
and Mrs. Jones, Simon's parents.
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Thank you for doing this,
Dr. Bull.
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Well, we haven't done anything
yet, but you're very welcome.
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Do you mind if I steal
Mr. Colón for a moment?
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Excuse me.
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I am totally in the dark about
our approach to voir dire.
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MARISSA (over earbud):
That would make two of us, Bull.
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Is it as simple
as finding people
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who feel anger towards
the pharmaceutical companies?
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'Cause there are plenty
of those.
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I wish. No.
295
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Just because
people are mad at a company
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or even an entire industry
doesn't mean
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they're gonna side with us.
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Shared experience
does not equal empathy.
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00:12:48,173 --> 00:12:50,843
In fact, a lot of times,
it's just the opposite.
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It's called the empathy gap.
301
00:12:52,978 --> 00:12:56,214
I worry that they are gonna
see Simon as someone
302
00:12:56,248 --> 00:12:59,451
who willingly signed up
for a risky job in an industry
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famous for its greed
and arrogance,
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and should have known better.
305
00:13:03,388 --> 00:13:05,357
Mm-hmm. So,
what are we looking for?
306
00:13:05,390 --> 00:13:07,325
Perversely,
I am thinking
307
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of going after jurors who
trust powerful corporations.
308
00:13:11,329 --> 00:13:12,630
Now I'm confused.
309
00:13:12,664 --> 00:13:14,266
I would've thought that's
exactly who we don't want.
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BULL:
Think about it.
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Who better to understand
what happened to Simon
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than someone who takes
big companies at their word.
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00:13:21,273 --> 00:13:23,441
We'll tell them a story
about a young man
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who trusted the people
he worked for,
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never questioning
their intentions
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or their honesty
till it was too late.
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And hopefully, we'll shock 'em
into siding with us.
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Mm. Well,
319
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at the very least,
she'll never see it coming.
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MARISSA:
Eddie Dunn, 33 years old.
321
00:13:43,095 --> 00:13:44,963
He is a toy wholesaler, so,
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he depends on big manufacturers
for his livelihood.
323
00:13:48,033 --> 00:13:50,302
He is the poster boy
for the kind of juror they think
324
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they want and think we don't.
325
00:13:52,270 --> 00:13:53,605
Excellent.
This should be fun.
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ATTORNEY:
Say you buy a product--
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00:13:55,273 --> 00:13:57,475
sandwich bags--
you get them home,
328
00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:59,611
but none of the
zippers work.
329
00:13:59,644 --> 00:14:01,613
What do you do?
Do you drive
330
00:14:01,646 --> 00:14:03,415
all the way
back to the store
331
00:14:03,448 --> 00:14:05,650
and make them exchange
it for another box?
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00:14:05,683 --> 00:14:07,652
Do you, uh, write to
the manufacturer?
333
00:14:07,685 --> 00:14:09,354
Or do you just
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shrug it off, throw the box
away and get on with your life?
335
00:14:12,457 --> 00:14:13,591
Me? I'd go back to the store.
336
00:14:13,625 --> 00:14:16,394
Because?
Any reputable store
is gonna want
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to make good
on that purchase.
338
00:14:18,296 --> 00:14:20,565
And so is the manufacturer,
by the way.
339
00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:23,501
There's nothing to be gained
by angering a customer.
340
00:14:23,535 --> 00:14:25,370
This juror's acceptable
to the defense.
341
00:14:25,403 --> 00:14:28,006
He's good, but Bull's
gonna strike him.
342
00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,208
Does the plaintiff wish
to question this juror?
343
00:14:30,242 --> 00:14:32,510
This juror is acceptable to
the plaintiff, too, Your Honor.
344
00:14:32,544 --> 00:14:34,346
Thank you.
345
00:14:37,115 --> 00:14:40,318
If you have a choice, do you
prefer store brand products,
346
00:14:40,352 --> 00:14:42,220
or name brand products?
347
00:14:42,254 --> 00:14:43,655
Most of the time, store brand.
348
00:14:43,688 --> 00:14:45,323
Any particular reason why?
349
00:14:45,357 --> 00:14:47,325
Bears don't use toilet paper.
350
00:14:47,359 --> 00:14:49,361
And mermaids don't drink coffee.
351
00:14:49,394 --> 00:14:51,229
I'm not paying
for the trademark.
352
00:14:51,263 --> 00:14:53,265
I'm paying for the product.
353
00:14:53,298 --> 00:14:54,532
That's very clever.
Mm-hmm.
354
00:14:54,566 --> 00:14:56,268
Move to strike, Your Honor.
355
00:14:58,136 --> 00:14:59,972
ATTORNEY: How do you feel
about drug companies?
356
00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:01,373
I wish their drugs cost less.
357
00:15:01,406 --> 00:15:03,208
But then...
I wish everything cost less.
358
00:15:03,241 --> 00:15:05,210
(laughs)
Hear, hear.
359
00:15:05,243 --> 00:15:06,544
But notwithstanding price,
360
00:15:06,578 --> 00:15:08,546
how do you feel
about drug companies?
361
00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:11,149
I mean, do you use
prescription drugs at all?
362
00:15:11,183 --> 00:15:12,951
I have a couple
of prescriptions, yes.
363
00:15:12,985 --> 00:15:15,187
And do they do
what they're supposed to do?
364
00:15:15,220 --> 00:15:18,156
Help you with the things
you need them to help with?
Yes.
365
00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:20,125
Would you miss them
if you didn't have them?
366
00:15:20,158 --> 00:15:21,326
Couldn't get them?
367
00:15:21,359 --> 00:15:22,594
Yes, definitely.
368
00:15:22,627 --> 00:15:24,662
So back to my first question,
369
00:15:24,696 --> 00:15:26,631
how do you feel
about drug companies?
370
00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:31,136
I guess I'm kind of grateful
for them.
371
00:15:31,169 --> 00:15:33,038
(mouthing):
She's great.
372
00:15:33,071 --> 00:15:35,607
ATTORNEY: This juror is
acceptable to the defense.
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00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,342
And to the plaintiff,
Your Honor.
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00:15:37,375 --> 00:15:40,712
Ladies and gentlemen,
we have a jury.
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00:15:40,745 --> 00:15:42,647
The rest of you are dismissed.
(gavel bangs)
376
00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,649
Thank you for your time.
377
00:15:46,751 --> 00:15:48,186
Well, that was easy.
378
00:15:48,220 --> 00:15:49,587
What are you trying
to pull?
379
00:15:49,621 --> 00:15:50,588
What are you
talking about?
380
00:15:50,622 --> 00:15:52,024
You mean the jurors?
381
00:15:52,057 --> 00:15:53,958
Great minds
think alike.
382
00:15:55,127 --> 00:15:56,594
You look puzzled.
383
00:15:56,628 --> 00:15:58,296
Can't you read me?
384
00:15:58,330 --> 00:16:00,132
I'd just like to understand.
That's all.
385
00:16:00,165 --> 00:16:01,533
Oh, I'm sorry.
386
00:16:01,566 --> 00:16:04,202
We're not taking new
students at the moment.
387
00:16:04,236 --> 00:16:06,238
See you in court, Ms. Cander.
388
00:16:11,543 --> 00:16:13,511
(elevator bell chimes)
389
00:16:14,546 --> 00:16:16,548
(sighs)
390
00:16:18,083 --> 00:16:20,318
(computer beeps)
391
00:16:31,363 --> 00:16:33,731
Cable.
392
00:16:33,765 --> 00:16:35,500
Cable!
(gasps)
393
00:16:35,533 --> 00:16:37,502
BENNY:
So what did you discover
working
394
00:16:37,535 --> 00:16:39,071
the graveyard shift?
395
00:16:39,104 --> 00:16:40,138
Bunch of stuff.
396
00:16:40,172 --> 00:16:42,674
A complete record of every
delivery Simon ever made
397
00:16:42,707 --> 00:16:43,941
for Rush City Courier.
398
00:16:43,975 --> 00:16:47,679
And Danny e-mailed me that she
might've found another subject
399
00:16:47,712 --> 00:16:50,182
in Simon's trial, and
last but not least,
400
00:16:50,215 --> 00:16:54,519
my very big score--
an old friend of Simon's.
401
00:16:54,552 --> 00:16:56,721
And this friend
is relevant why?
402
00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:59,691
I don't know. It's
really a long shot.
403
00:16:59,724 --> 00:17:03,295
But the funny thing is, I didn't
even find him on the Internet.
404
00:17:03,328 --> 00:17:06,131
I dug up his application
from when he worked here,
405
00:17:06,164 --> 00:17:09,234
and under emergency contact,
he put this guy.
406
00:17:09,267 --> 00:17:10,668
His name is Tom Greaver.
407
00:17:10,702 --> 00:17:12,170
Never mentioned
him to me
408
00:17:12,204 --> 00:17:14,372
the whole time we
knew each other, but
409
00:17:14,406 --> 00:17:16,241
put someone as your
emergency contact,
410
00:17:16,274 --> 00:17:18,310
they've got to know
a lot about you.
411
00:17:18,343 --> 00:17:20,645
Hmm. You should come to court.
412
00:17:20,678 --> 00:17:22,514
We're there because of you.
413
00:17:22,547 --> 00:17:24,249
MRS. JONES:
Simon and I
414
00:17:24,282 --> 00:17:26,218
were incredibly close.
415
00:17:26,251 --> 00:17:30,222
We spoke twice a week--
Mondays and Thursdays.
416
00:17:30,255 --> 00:17:31,589
He always called me.
417
00:17:31,623 --> 00:17:34,092
7:30 at night.
418
00:17:34,126 --> 00:17:36,428
You could set your clock by it.
419
00:17:36,461 --> 00:17:39,164
And then one Thursday, um,
420
00:17:39,197 --> 00:17:41,666
a little over two months ago,
my phone didn't ring,
421
00:17:41,699 --> 00:17:44,636
so I worried.
422
00:17:44,669 --> 00:17:47,339
And finally,
423
00:17:47,372 --> 00:17:50,742
despite my better judgment,
I called him.
424
00:17:50,775 --> 00:17:52,477
Did he answer?
425
00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:54,646
Yes and no.
426
00:17:54,679 --> 00:17:56,281
How do you mean?
427
00:17:56,314 --> 00:17:59,617
It was Simon,
but it wasn't my Simon.
428
00:18:01,219 --> 00:18:03,588
He just sounded different.
429
00:18:03,621 --> 00:18:05,590
Muted.
430
00:18:05,623 --> 00:18:07,692
Like some part of him
had disappeared
431
00:18:07,725 --> 00:18:10,362
or... been put away.
432
00:18:10,395 --> 00:18:12,297
And did you know at this point
433
00:18:12,330 --> 00:18:15,300
that he had started the Dep
drug trial three days earlier?
434
00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:16,534
No.
435
00:18:16,568 --> 00:18:20,172
I just knew
something was different.
436
00:18:20,205 --> 00:18:22,274
And not for the better.
437
00:18:22,307 --> 00:18:24,309
Your witness.
438
00:18:25,943 --> 00:18:27,212
Earth to TAC.
439
00:18:27,245 --> 00:18:28,646
Tell me what you see.
440
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,248
MARISSA:
Well, because of the strategy
441
00:18:30,282 --> 00:18:31,916
you're using
of starting with jurors
442
00:18:31,949 --> 00:18:34,586
who are predisposed
to trust big companies,
443
00:18:34,619 --> 00:18:36,854
you're at a disadvantage
coming out of the box.
444
00:18:36,888 --> 00:18:38,790
You began the morning
with ten red jurors
445
00:18:38,823 --> 00:18:40,225
and only two green ones.
446
00:18:40,258 --> 00:18:41,526
And that hasn't changed.
447
00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:43,261
But she doesn't know that.
448
00:18:43,295 --> 00:18:44,829
You mean Arti?
How could she?
449
00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:47,199
ATTORNEY:
Our condolences, Mrs. Jones.
450
00:18:47,232 --> 00:18:50,268
You said your son seemed, uh,
451
00:18:50,302 --> 00:18:51,469
different that day.
452
00:18:51,503 --> 00:18:53,338
He did.
Did he mention
453
00:18:53,371 --> 00:18:56,308
to you that he had quit his job?
454
00:18:56,341 --> 00:18:57,642
No, he did not.
455
00:18:57,675 --> 00:18:59,744
Did he mention to you
that he decided instead
456
00:18:59,777 --> 00:19:01,913
to become a
bike messenger?
457
00:19:01,946 --> 00:19:04,249
No, he did not.
458
00:19:04,282 --> 00:19:06,884
And you've already testified
that he hadn't confided in you
459
00:19:06,918 --> 00:19:09,754
that he was participating
in a drug trial.
460
00:19:09,787 --> 00:19:13,291
So isn't it a bit...
disingenuous
461
00:19:13,325 --> 00:19:15,560
to talk about
how close you were?
462
00:19:15,593 --> 00:19:18,496
And couldn't it be
that the reason
463
00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:22,667
he sounded-- what word
did you use?-- muted was because
464
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:24,502
he was keeping so many
secrets from you?
465
00:19:24,536 --> 00:19:25,503
BENNY:
Objection!
466
00:19:25,537 --> 00:19:27,872
The counselor has asked
two questions in a row
467
00:19:27,905 --> 00:19:29,774
without letting
the witness answer.
468
00:19:29,807 --> 00:19:31,376
Sustained.
469
00:19:31,409 --> 00:19:35,347
Mr. Hansen, if you could
please ask one question
470
00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:37,249
and wait
for the witness to answer.
471
00:19:39,284 --> 00:19:42,720
Mrs. Jones,
do you have any education
472
00:19:42,754 --> 00:19:45,923
or certification
or training of any kind
473
00:19:45,957 --> 00:19:48,260
that allows you to hypothesize
474
00:19:48,293 --> 00:19:50,662
from hearing someone's voice
on the phone
475
00:19:50,695 --> 00:19:52,697
whether they have been affected
in any way
476
00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:54,766
by a medication
they might have taken?
477
00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,269
No, I do not.
478
00:19:58,470 --> 00:20:01,706
No further questions.
479
00:20:01,739 --> 00:20:03,808
There is so little movement
here, I'm starting to wonder
480
00:20:03,841 --> 00:20:05,877
if we're having
a systems failure.
481
00:20:05,910 --> 00:20:09,681
I'm trying to put a good face
on this, but you're not helping.
482
00:20:13,618 --> 00:20:15,620
(crowd chatter)
483
00:20:17,922 --> 00:20:19,924
Kevin? Kevin Wright?
484
00:20:19,957 --> 00:20:23,695
Hi. Um, can I ask you
some questions
485
00:20:23,728 --> 00:20:26,230
about a clinical trial
you participated in?
486
00:20:33,605 --> 00:20:35,340
You were in
the Dep Pharmaceutical
487
00:20:35,373 --> 00:20:37,409
antidepressant trial, yeah?
488
00:20:37,442 --> 00:20:39,010
That was supposed
to be confidential.
489
00:20:39,043 --> 00:20:40,545
It's not something
I'm really anxious
490
00:20:40,578 --> 00:20:42,747
for people to
know about.
491
00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:44,582
I'm sorry
if I startled you.
492
00:20:44,616 --> 00:20:46,884
It's just...
493
00:20:46,918 --> 00:20:50,488
one of the other participants,
Simon Jones, died.
494
00:20:50,522 --> 00:20:52,757
Committed suicide, actually.
495
00:20:54,091 --> 00:20:57,295
I'm just trying
to figure out what happened.
496
00:20:58,330 --> 00:21:00,865
Did you know each other well?
497
00:21:00,898 --> 00:21:03,501
Uh, we never really hung
out or anything, but...
498
00:21:03,535 --> 00:21:05,970
we ended up in a lot
of the same trials.
499
00:21:06,003 --> 00:21:08,740
Once you do one, and
you see how easy it is,
500
00:21:08,773 --> 00:21:12,043
how much money they pay...
501
00:21:12,076 --> 00:21:15,012
We were both what they
call healthy volunteers,
502
00:21:15,046 --> 00:21:17,715
and there was a big
demand for that, so...
503
00:21:18,816 --> 00:21:20,985
I'm sorry. Uh, my
head is spinning.
504
00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:22,820
It's a shock.
505
00:21:22,854 --> 00:21:25,357
Well, forgive me.
What's a healthy volunteer?
506
00:21:25,390 --> 00:21:27,024
Uh, people
who don't have the illness
507
00:21:27,058 --> 00:21:28,460
the drug is being tested for.
508
00:21:28,493 --> 00:21:29,627
Got it.
509
00:21:29,661 --> 00:21:30,962
Well, last question.
510
00:21:30,995 --> 00:21:32,997
Why did you drop out
of the study?
511
00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:35,066
KEVIN:
When I'm not working
at the gym,
512
00:21:35,099 --> 00:21:36,434
I'm training for marathons.
513
00:21:36,468 --> 00:21:38,636
I try to do six
to eight miles a day.
514
00:21:38,670 --> 00:21:39,771
Been doing it for years.
515
00:21:39,804 --> 00:21:43,708
But a couple of days after
I started the Dep trial, I...
516
00:21:43,741 --> 00:21:46,811
I don't know. I...
517
00:21:46,844 --> 00:21:51,349
I started having these feelings
of... dread.
518
00:21:51,383 --> 00:21:54,085
I was supposed to fly to Chicago
for a friend's wedding.
519
00:21:54,118 --> 00:21:56,754
Couldn't get on the plane.
520
00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:58,823
Became convinced
that it was gonna crash.
521
00:21:58,856 --> 00:22:03,361
And that same weekend-- I think
it was Saturday morning--
522
00:22:03,395 --> 00:22:05,497
I couldn't get out of bed.
523
00:22:05,530 --> 00:22:08,400
Just skipped training
altogether, and I never do that.
524
00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:11,068
But then the next day,
Sunday,
525
00:22:11,102 --> 00:22:13,137
I'm running across
Brooklyn Bridge,
526
00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:16,441
and I'm staring down
at the water,
527
00:22:16,474 --> 00:22:20,044
and the next thing I know,
I stop
528
00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:23,080
and I'm figuring out
how to get over the rail
529
00:22:23,114 --> 00:22:27,519
and onto the crossbeam
so I can jump,
530
00:22:27,552 --> 00:22:29,921
because that's what my body
wants to do.
531
00:22:29,954 --> 00:22:32,524
It wants to fall.
532
00:22:32,557 --> 00:22:35,493
It wants to be in the water.
533
00:22:35,527 --> 00:22:37,361
It wants to never come back up.
534
00:22:39,564 --> 00:22:42,534
But I stopped myself. I...
535
00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:44,802
sat down there
right on the bridge,
536
00:22:44,836 --> 00:22:46,704
tried to breathe.
537
00:22:46,738 --> 00:22:49,674
Called my parents.
538
00:22:49,707 --> 00:22:51,543
I didn't want to die,
539
00:22:51,576 --> 00:22:56,047
but my mind
was telling me to let go.
540
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,582
There's nothing scarier
than realizing your brain
541
00:22:57,615 --> 00:22:59,551
is plotting against you.
542
00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:05,022
No further questions,
Your Honor.
543
00:23:05,056 --> 00:23:07,124
MARISSA:
Ah, things are looking up.
544
00:23:07,158 --> 00:23:10,161
Two of theirs
just became two of ours.
545
00:23:10,194 --> 00:23:11,963
(speaking low, indistinctly)
546
00:23:11,996 --> 00:23:14,599
JUDGE: Does the defense have any
questions for the witness?
547
00:23:15,767 --> 00:23:18,202
HANSEN:
Morning, sir.
548
00:23:18,235 --> 00:23:20,472
Do you recognize this document?
549
00:23:20,505 --> 00:23:22,206
I-I do.
550
00:23:22,239 --> 00:23:23,908
It's a consent form I signed
551
00:23:23,941 --> 00:23:26,544
to participate in the
Dep Pharmaceutical trial.
552
00:23:26,578 --> 00:23:28,446
And, uh, is this
your signature
553
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,981
at the bottom of it?
554
00:23:30,014 --> 00:23:31,148
It is.
555
00:23:31,182 --> 00:23:33,084
And, uh, can you
tell us the purpose
556
00:23:33,117 --> 00:23:35,887
of the mandatory
washout period?
557
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,457
It's mentioned in the
third paragraph there.
558
00:23:39,491 --> 00:23:43,995
It's, uh, the period of time
between drug trials.
559
00:23:44,028 --> 00:23:46,564
It's something
the companies insist on.
560
00:23:46,598 --> 00:23:49,667
It exists to make sure
their drugs don't interact
561
00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:52,069
with someone else's drugs
from an earlier trial.
562
00:23:52,103 --> 00:23:54,205
I think we've
just been "Candered."
563
00:23:54,238 --> 00:23:56,908
HANSEN:
And on this form you signed,
564
00:23:56,941 --> 00:23:59,577
how long is the specified
washout period?
565
00:23:59,611 --> 00:24:01,879
It specifies 30 days.
566
00:24:01,913 --> 00:24:03,214
30 days.
567
00:24:03,247 --> 00:24:06,050
And what were
you doing 27 days
568
00:24:06,083 --> 00:24:09,821
before you started the
Dep Pharmaceutical trial?
569
00:24:09,854 --> 00:24:11,756
Remember, you
are under oath.
570
00:24:12,857 --> 00:24:14,225
Well, I was doing
a lot of things.
571
00:24:16,561 --> 00:24:19,831
But, uh, one of them was,
I was finishing up
572
00:24:19,864 --> 00:24:22,166
the Manhattan Hill Medical
painkiller trial.
573
00:24:22,199 --> 00:24:24,268
Last day, last dose.
574
00:24:24,301 --> 00:24:25,970
And do you happen to
know if Simon Jones
575
00:24:26,003 --> 00:24:28,673
was in that trial as well?
576
00:24:28,706 --> 00:24:30,742
Um, yes, he was.
577
00:24:30,775 --> 00:24:32,910
What drug trial
are they talking about?
578
00:24:32,944 --> 00:24:34,211
Where are they getting this
579
00:24:34,245 --> 00:24:36,047
and why don't we have it?
580
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,516
HANSEN:
Is 27 days
the same thing as 30 days?
581
00:24:38,550 --> 00:24:39,851
KEVIN: Of course not.
HANSEN: Then how do you know
582
00:24:39,884 --> 00:24:41,285
it wasn't the interaction
of the painkiller
583
00:24:41,318 --> 00:24:42,954
with the antidepressant
that caused
584
00:24:42,987 --> 00:24:44,922
the suicidal ideation
the two of you experienced?
585
00:24:44,956 --> 00:24:48,225
Because... I know.
586
00:24:48,259 --> 00:24:51,295
Look, we've done so many
of these things.
587
00:24:51,328 --> 00:24:54,198
And it's... everyone does it.
588
00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:56,801
No further questions.
589
00:25:10,314 --> 00:25:12,149
I don't understand.
You interviewed Kevin.
DANNY: Yeah.
590
00:25:12,183 --> 00:25:14,318
Obviously he didn't tell me
that he and Simon
591
00:25:14,351 --> 00:25:16,654
weren't living up to their
consent form agreements.
BULL: Well.
592
00:25:16,688 --> 00:25:19,924
And there was no way of knowing
about the other drug trial.
593
00:25:19,957 --> 00:25:23,060
Drug trials in the research
stages of pre-FDA approval
594
00:25:23,094 --> 00:25:24,729
don't need to be reported.
595
00:25:24,762 --> 00:25:27,298
Well, Dep knew about it.
BENNY: No.
596
00:25:27,331 --> 00:25:30,735
My guess is, Manhattan Hill
Medical tipped them off.
597
00:25:30,768 --> 00:25:34,071
These drug companies
are fiercely competitive,
598
00:25:34,105 --> 00:25:37,174
but they don't like the idea
of being taken to the cleaners
599
00:25:37,208 --> 00:25:40,277
by some guinea pig that
they use to pay chump change
600
00:25:40,311 --> 00:25:41,345
to test their
new products.
601
00:25:41,378 --> 00:25:42,780
Where are we with the jurors?
602
00:25:42,814 --> 00:25:44,616
Ten against us,
two for us.
603
00:25:44,649 --> 00:25:46,651
There's no movement at all?
604
00:25:46,684 --> 00:25:48,920
Sometimes it goes to 11
against us.
605
00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:53,124
How about that
emergency contact guy? Tom?
606
00:25:53,157 --> 00:25:55,192
Tom Greaver. I can't find him.
607
00:25:55,226 --> 00:25:57,629
Nor can I.
608
00:25:57,662 --> 00:25:59,664
He's virtually invisible online.
609
00:25:59,697 --> 00:26:02,166
What about tracking down other
participants in Simon's trial?
610
00:26:02,199 --> 00:26:04,101
(scoffs)
We're all trying.
611
00:26:04,135 --> 00:26:08,072
Okay. Who is, uh, our
next witness, counselor?
612
00:26:08,105 --> 00:26:12,076
We, uh, really don't have one.
613
00:26:13,945 --> 00:26:15,947
Terrific.
614
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:17,949
Tomorrow morning when we rest
our non-case,
615
00:26:17,982 --> 00:26:19,917
the only mystery will be,
616
00:26:19,951 --> 00:26:22,219
is the defense gonna have
a field day toying with us,
617
00:26:22,253 --> 00:26:25,389
or will they be humane and ask
for an immediate dismissal?
618
00:26:25,422 --> 00:26:28,392
I'm sorry, Dr. Bull.
619
00:26:28,425 --> 00:26:30,862
I never should have come
to you with this.
620
00:26:30,895 --> 00:26:34,165
Well, that's why I normally
make it a point
621
00:26:34,198 --> 00:26:36,634
not to work on behalf
of immature slackers
622
00:26:36,668 --> 00:26:38,102
who quit without notice,
623
00:26:38,135 --> 00:26:39,871
lie without giving it
a second thought,
624
00:26:39,904 --> 00:26:42,039
and jump off rooftops
without any regard
625
00:26:42,073 --> 00:26:44,876
for the people
they leave behind.
626
00:26:44,909 --> 00:26:47,679
But that's just me.
627
00:26:49,446 --> 00:26:51,415
(sniffles)
628
00:26:51,448 --> 00:26:53,651
(door closes)
629
00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:56,988
(knocking on glass)
He's busy.
630
00:26:57,021 --> 00:26:59,023
(door opens,
footsteps approaching)
631
00:27:01,392 --> 00:27:03,260
Pretty, uh...
632
00:27:03,294 --> 00:27:05,997
Pretty savage out there, huh?
633
00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,733
I don't like to lose.
634
00:27:08,766 --> 00:27:10,301
The case or the girl?
635
00:27:10,334 --> 00:27:12,036
Oh, please.
636
00:27:12,069 --> 00:27:16,307
No. You didn't do us
any favors with the jury.
637
00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:20,377
Only people who trust
corporations? That...
638
00:27:20,411 --> 00:27:22,780
That is a hell of a mountain
to climb
639
00:27:22,814 --> 00:27:26,684
when you're trying to prove
corporate malfeasance.
640
00:27:26,718 --> 00:27:29,921
And don't try to tell me
it wasn't for that girl.
641
00:27:29,954 --> 00:27:32,790
"I'm Dr. Bull.
Here...
642
00:27:32,824 --> 00:27:34,926
"I'll give you
the jurors that you want,
643
00:27:34,959 --> 00:27:37,194
and I'll still
beat you, right?"
644
00:27:37,228 --> 00:27:38,896
You happy now?
645
00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:40,397
You rode to the rescue
and reminded me
646
00:27:40,431 --> 00:27:42,466
there's plenty of blame
to go around.
647
00:27:42,499 --> 00:27:45,402
Benny the hero.
648
00:27:45,436 --> 00:27:47,705
Now leave me alone.
649
00:27:47,739 --> 00:27:49,240
I'm preparing for tomorrow.
650
00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:55,713
(door opens)
651
00:27:55,747 --> 00:27:57,715
(gavel bangs)
652
00:27:57,749 --> 00:27:59,216
JUDGE:
Mr. Hansen,
call your first witness.
653
00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:00,785
HANSEN:
The defense would like
654
00:28:00,818 --> 00:28:02,787
to call Tom Greaver
to the stand.
655
00:28:07,058 --> 00:28:09,326
How the hell
did they find him?
(door closes)
656
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:13,030
The more important
question is... why?
657
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,434
TOM:
We met in college.
658
00:28:17,468 --> 00:28:19,470
Liked all the same stuff--
659
00:28:19,503 --> 00:28:21,906
drinking beers,
listening to music.
660
00:28:21,939 --> 00:28:23,474
Drinking beers?
661
00:28:23,507 --> 00:28:24,942
You know,
on Simon's consent form,
662
00:28:24,976 --> 00:28:26,510
he said that he doesn't drink.
663
00:28:26,543 --> 00:28:28,312
Well, this was a long time ago.
664
00:28:28,345 --> 00:28:29,914
We were 18.
665
00:28:29,947 --> 00:28:32,283
I'm pretty sure
he was telling the truth.
666
00:28:32,316 --> 00:28:34,318
In fact, I'm certain of it.
667
00:28:34,351 --> 00:28:36,353
And what makes
you so certain?
668
00:28:36,387 --> 00:28:38,155
Did something happen?
669
00:28:38,189 --> 00:28:40,958
Yeah.
670
00:28:40,992 --> 00:28:45,496
Around the same time,
freshman year,
671
00:28:45,529 --> 00:28:47,799
Simon OD'd on heroin.
672
00:28:47,832 --> 00:28:49,500
(gasps)
(shocked murmuring)
673
00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:50,501
Oh, my God.
674
00:28:50,534 --> 00:28:52,169
No.
675
00:28:52,203 --> 00:28:54,471
Happened at my house.
676
00:28:54,505 --> 00:28:57,008
He came home with me
one weekend.
677
00:28:57,041 --> 00:29:00,044
My mom was an
emergency room nurse
678
00:29:00,077 --> 00:29:01,745
and she saved him
by giving him Narcan.
679
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:05,016
No one ever knew.
680
00:29:05,049 --> 00:29:06,283
There was no record.
681
00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:10,822
I know his parents never knew.
682
00:29:11,856 --> 00:29:13,490
After that...
683
00:29:14,525 --> 00:29:17,094
...he just went
completely sober.
684
00:29:17,128 --> 00:29:20,932
No drugs, no alcohol,
no nothing.
685
00:29:20,965 --> 00:29:22,800
You think the overdose
was intentional?
686
00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:25,069
Objection. Counselor calling
for speculation.
687
00:29:25,102 --> 00:29:27,304
I'll withdraw the question.
688
00:29:27,338 --> 00:29:29,907
Yeah, but he can't withdraw
the inference.
689
00:29:29,941 --> 00:29:32,309
She's good, damn it.
690
00:29:32,343 --> 00:29:34,812
She's killing us.
691
00:29:34,846 --> 00:29:37,448
She is representing her client
like a pit bull,
692
00:29:37,481 --> 00:29:39,250
and she's not gonna let
a pesky thing
693
00:29:39,283 --> 00:29:40,918
like the truth
stand in her way.
694
00:29:40,952 --> 00:29:42,119
MARISSA:
Bull, I'm sorry to interrupt,
695
00:29:42,153 --> 00:29:45,156
but we just went
to 12 red jurors.
696
00:29:45,189 --> 00:29:46,557
(computer beeps)
Yes! Yes, I got it.
697
00:29:46,590 --> 00:29:48,125
I got it.
698
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:50,862
Tell them to request
a recess, a break.
699
00:29:50,895 --> 00:29:52,997
I found him.
700
00:29:53,030 --> 00:29:54,598
I found Tom Greaver.
701
00:29:54,631 --> 00:29:57,168
He changed his name.
702
00:30:02,173 --> 00:30:03,540
So we misdirect here,
then we...
703
00:30:03,574 --> 00:30:05,242
BENNY:
Cable.
704
00:30:05,276 --> 00:30:07,411
Thank you for these.
705
00:30:12,283 --> 00:30:14,251
I'm really glad you came.
706
00:30:14,285 --> 00:30:15,987
Yeah.
707
00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:17,388
Hope it makes a difference.
708
00:30:17,421 --> 00:30:19,423
Oh, I think it might.
709
00:30:21,025 --> 00:30:23,527
I'm glad you came, too.
710
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,430
And if I was harsh last night...
711
00:30:26,463 --> 00:30:29,066
Oh, you were.
712
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,302
But we've been together a while,
713
00:30:31,335 --> 00:30:33,204
so I know it's only because
you care.
714
00:30:33,237 --> 00:30:34,972
I hate to lose.
715
00:30:37,108 --> 00:30:38,609
Let's go with yours.
716
00:30:38,642 --> 00:30:41,278
BENNY:
That was, uh...
717
00:30:41,312 --> 00:30:43,247
quite a fascinating story
you told
718
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,316
about your friend Simon
just before we adjourned.
719
00:30:45,349 --> 00:30:48,085
It wasn't a story.
720
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,487
I didn't mean to imply anything,
Mr. Greaver.
721
00:30:50,521 --> 00:30:53,490
But I am curious.
722
00:30:53,524 --> 00:30:57,428
Your mom kept Narcan at home?
723
00:30:57,461 --> 00:30:59,363
Well, like I said, she was
an emergency room nurse.
724
00:30:59,396 --> 00:31:01,198
Still...
725
00:31:01,232 --> 00:31:05,269
was she anticipating your best
friend suffering an overdose
726
00:31:05,302 --> 00:31:07,638
or was she just the best
prepared mom on the block?
727
00:31:07,671 --> 00:31:09,440
Objection.
Calls for speculation,
728
00:31:09,473 --> 00:31:11,475
and counselor's tone
is provocative.
729
00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:12,643
I'll withdraw the question.
730
00:31:12,676 --> 00:31:15,279
Now, if I wanted
731
00:31:15,312 --> 00:31:18,249
to corroborate this story,
who can I speak to?
732
00:31:18,282 --> 00:31:20,384
Say, your mom, or...?
733
00:31:20,417 --> 00:31:21,953
Unfortunately,
she passed four years ago.
734
00:31:21,986 --> 00:31:24,321
I'm so sorry
to hear that.
735
00:31:24,355 --> 00:31:28,259
Okay. All right.
So-so-so let's review.
736
00:31:28,292 --> 00:31:29,927
Your mother's no longer with us.
737
00:31:29,961 --> 00:31:31,528
Simon is no longer with us.
738
00:31:31,562 --> 00:31:33,697
Really, the only person
that we can rely on
739
00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:36,500
regarding the truthfulness
of the story is-is you.
740
00:31:36,533 --> 00:31:38,102
Isn't that correct?
741
00:31:38,135 --> 00:31:40,304
Yeah. I suppose that's true.
742
00:31:40,337 --> 00:31:43,240
The only reason
I mention it, is...
743
00:31:43,274 --> 00:31:47,544
we can't find any history
whatsoever on Simon,
744
00:31:47,578 --> 00:31:50,181
with regard to drug use.
745
00:31:50,214 --> 00:31:52,283
None.
746
00:31:52,316 --> 00:31:56,220
But there is quite a dossier
on a fellow named Tom Belmond,
747
00:31:56,253 --> 00:31:58,956
who went to college
with you and Simon.
748
00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:02,259
Arrests for, uh,
possession.
749
00:32:02,293 --> 00:32:03,560
Arrests for sales
of narcotics.
750
00:32:03,594 --> 00:32:05,129
Three hospitalizations
751
00:32:05,162 --> 00:32:07,298
for overdoses, and then,
752
00:32:07,331 --> 00:32:08,665
ultimately, of
course, expulsion.
753
00:32:08,699 --> 00:32:10,301
BULL:
What's that sound?
754
00:32:10,334 --> 00:32:12,469
Is that the sound of jurors
starting to move?
755
00:32:12,503 --> 00:32:15,339
Do you happen to know
a Tom Belmond?
756
00:32:15,372 --> 00:32:17,574
I'm-I'm sorry.
757
00:32:17,608 --> 00:32:19,543
I-I didn't hear your response.
758
00:32:19,576 --> 00:32:21,312
You ever hear of a Tom Belmond?
759
00:32:23,647 --> 00:32:25,449
I see, you're-you're having
trouble with this.
760
00:32:25,482 --> 00:32:28,719
Okay. All right. I-I'll make it
a little easier for you.
761
00:32:30,187 --> 00:32:31,622
Aren't you Tom Belmond?
762
00:32:31,655 --> 00:32:34,191
Objection. Is the attorney
asking questions
763
00:32:34,225 --> 00:32:36,360
or making third party
pronouncements?
764
00:32:36,393 --> 00:32:37,394
Sustained.
765
00:32:37,428 --> 00:32:38,729
Ask a question, counselor.
766
00:32:38,762 --> 00:32:40,397
I'm sorry, Your Honor.
767
00:32:40,431 --> 00:32:42,533
You just got back your two
jurors from yesterday.
768
00:32:42,566 --> 00:32:45,002
I feel the wind shifting.
BENNY:
Didn't you change your name
769
00:32:45,036 --> 00:32:47,371
from Tom Belmond
to Tom Greaver precisely,
770
00:32:47,404 --> 00:32:49,040
so you can avoid
having to mention
771
00:32:49,073 --> 00:32:50,774
your arrest history,
your history with drugs,
772
00:32:50,807 --> 00:32:53,244
while seeking employment
and housing...
773
00:32:53,277 --> 00:32:55,779
I wanted a fresh start, okay?
774
00:32:55,812 --> 00:32:58,049
I made a lot of mistakes
as a kid, but...
775
00:32:58,082 --> 00:33:00,451
MARISSA:
One more just came over.
776
00:33:00,484 --> 00:33:03,187
We are now at nine red
and three green.
BENNY: And isn't it true
777
00:33:03,220 --> 00:33:05,322
your mother smuggled Narcan
out of the emergency room,
778
00:33:05,356 --> 00:33:07,458
not because she was worried
about Simon,
779
00:33:07,491 --> 00:33:09,426
who had no interest in drugs,
780
00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:11,228
but because she was terrified
781
00:33:11,262 --> 00:33:13,097
that her own son
might overdose one day?
782
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:14,365
Objection.
And the story
783
00:33:14,398 --> 00:33:17,401
about Simon Jones
attempting to commit suicide
784
00:33:17,434 --> 00:33:19,303
eight years ago with heroin
was just that.
785
00:33:19,336 --> 00:33:21,338
It was just a story, right?
Objection.
786
00:33:21,372 --> 00:33:24,308
Again, these are pronouncements,
not questions, Your Honor.
787
00:33:24,341 --> 00:33:26,477
One more green light.
788
00:33:26,510 --> 00:33:28,645
They've got eight,
and we've got four.
789
00:33:28,679 --> 00:33:30,447
Now the fun really begins.
790
00:33:30,481 --> 00:33:32,549
Well, then, here's the question:
how much did Dep pay you
791
00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:35,152
to take the stand
and perjure yourself today,
792
00:33:35,186 --> 00:33:36,787
Mr. Greaver or Mr. Belmond,
793
00:33:36,820 --> 00:33:38,555
or whoever you say you are?!
Objection,
794
00:33:38,589 --> 00:33:40,124
Your Honor.
Sustained.
795
00:33:40,157 --> 00:33:41,492
No problem, Your Honor.
796
00:33:41,525 --> 00:33:43,694
Question withdrawn.
(galley murmuring)
797
00:33:43,727 --> 00:33:45,396
I think I'd rather not know.
798
00:33:45,429 --> 00:33:47,564
No further
questions, please.
799
00:33:47,598 --> 00:33:50,167
How's that for an inference?
800
00:33:50,201 --> 00:33:51,335
MARISSA:
Now we've got five,
801
00:33:51,368 --> 00:33:52,536
and they've got seven.
802
00:33:52,569 --> 00:33:53,704
BULL:
Nice work.
803
00:33:53,737 --> 00:33:56,140
JUDGE: Court will resume
tomorrow morning.
(gavel bangs)
804
00:33:58,175 --> 00:34:00,177
Read any good jurors lately?
805
00:34:00,211 --> 00:34:01,645
Well, yes, I have.
806
00:34:01,678 --> 00:34:04,481
And I suspect
that you have, too.
807
00:34:04,515 --> 00:34:06,383
But we both know
that I'm reading
808
00:34:06,417 --> 00:34:07,818
more good jurors
than you are, Dr. Bull,
809
00:34:07,851 --> 00:34:10,221
so stop trying to play with me.
810
00:34:10,254 --> 00:34:12,289
Although, I suspect
811
00:34:12,323 --> 00:34:15,492
that at some point,
we might get to that, too.
812
00:34:16,493 --> 00:34:18,495
(traffic sounds)
813
00:34:22,133 --> 00:34:24,101
(pounding on door)
814
00:34:27,138 --> 00:34:29,273
Hi. Sorry to bother you.
815
00:34:29,306 --> 00:34:31,308
I'm looking
for Edgar Paulson?
816
00:34:36,747 --> 00:34:38,715
CHUNK:
Mr. Paulson's name
817
00:34:38,749 --> 00:34:40,451
is on a list of people
who participated
818
00:34:40,484 --> 00:34:42,519
in a drug trial that
we're investigating.
819
00:34:42,553 --> 00:34:44,455
(chuckles): It took me a
while to track him down.
820
00:34:44,488 --> 00:34:46,490
Is there any way I
could speak to him?
821
00:34:46,523 --> 00:34:49,626
I'm sorry. Uh, Mr. Paulson's
no longer with us.
822
00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:53,497
Is there any way you could share
a forwarding address?
823
00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:55,299
Some way to contact him?
824
00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,403
Mr. Paulson hung himself
825
00:34:59,436 --> 00:35:01,472
about three and a half
weeks ago.
826
00:35:01,505 --> 00:35:03,407
(exhales)
827
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,709
I'm so sorry.
828
00:35:05,742 --> 00:35:07,378
I had no idea.
829
00:35:07,411 --> 00:35:09,513
I actually checked
all the names on this list
830
00:35:09,546 --> 00:35:11,448
for deaths and hospitalizations.
831
00:35:11,482 --> 00:35:13,550
I don't know
how that got past me.
832
00:35:13,584 --> 00:35:15,586
I'm sure it'll show up shortly.
833
00:35:15,619 --> 00:35:17,188
The woman who took care of him,
834
00:35:17,221 --> 00:35:19,523
she struck me as very thorough.
835
00:35:19,556 --> 00:35:20,891
A woman?
836
00:35:20,924 --> 00:35:23,694
Well, someone he worked with.
Or for.
837
00:35:23,727 --> 00:35:25,662
She would stop by here.
838
00:35:25,696 --> 00:35:27,564
Make sure he took his medicine.
839
00:35:27,598 --> 00:35:29,700
Gave him money occasionally.
840
00:35:29,733 --> 00:35:32,469
She stopped by to see him
the morning we found him.
841
00:35:32,503 --> 00:35:34,738
She was terribly upset.
842
00:35:34,771 --> 00:35:36,873
Took care of all the details.
843
00:35:36,907 --> 00:35:39,443
Even paid for his cremation.
844
00:35:39,476 --> 00:35:43,280
Would you happen to have
her name? This woman?
845
00:35:43,314 --> 00:35:44,381
TESSA:
My name is Tessa Snyder.
846
00:35:44,415 --> 00:35:48,419
I am Chief Executive Officer
for Dep Pharmaceutical.
847
00:35:48,452 --> 00:35:50,254
Have been
for about three years now.
848
00:35:50,287 --> 00:35:51,655
And can you tell the jury
849
00:35:51,688 --> 00:35:53,457
what we're doing here today?
850
00:35:53,490 --> 00:35:56,427
And by that I mean
we all know drug companies
851
00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:59,230
face legal actions like this
all the time.
852
00:35:59,263 --> 00:36:01,298
Usually they're settled
out of court.
853
00:36:01,332 --> 00:36:04,668
But why did you, a young CEO,
choose to fight this out
854
00:36:04,701 --> 00:36:06,470
in a public forum?
BULL:
Nice move.
855
00:36:06,503 --> 00:36:09,440
She's turning the very fact
that we're suing her client
856
00:36:09,473 --> 00:36:11,842
into a laudable thing
in the eyes of the jury.
857
00:36:11,875 --> 00:36:13,810
I may steal that.
858
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,482
One, this company
has an unblemished record
859
00:36:18,515 --> 00:36:21,218
with regard
to drug and testing safety.
860
00:36:21,252 --> 00:36:24,788
And two, this new drug--
861
00:36:24,821 --> 00:36:27,591
the first created
under my leadership--
862
00:36:27,624 --> 00:36:30,527
is truly
a pharmaceutical miracle
863
00:36:30,561 --> 00:36:32,963
for people who suffer
from depression.
864
00:36:32,996 --> 00:36:36,867
I welcomed the opportunity
to tell the court,
865
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:38,969
the jury, the world, about it.
866
00:36:39,002 --> 00:36:40,537
And can you tell the jury
867
00:36:40,571 --> 00:36:42,573
why you conduct
868
00:36:42,606 --> 00:36:45,242
these clinical trials?
869
00:36:45,276 --> 00:36:46,677
Well, the first thing
you need to know
870
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:50,547
is I got into this business
to help ease
871
00:36:50,581 --> 00:36:51,915
human suffering.
872
00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:53,784
I mention that
873
00:36:53,817 --> 00:36:57,354
because I need you to know
how deeply sorry I am
874
00:36:57,388 --> 00:36:58,555
for the Jones family's loss.
875
00:36:58,589 --> 00:37:01,358
BULL: Excellent segue.
Nicely written.
876
00:37:01,392 --> 00:37:02,959
Nicely performed.
877
00:37:02,993 --> 00:37:04,661
Having said that,
878
00:37:04,695 --> 00:37:06,763
we did nothing wrong.
879
00:37:06,797 --> 00:37:09,566
Simon was screened.
880
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,403
The fact that he was not
completely truthful
881
00:37:12,436 --> 00:37:13,737
is not something we can control.
882
00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:14,971
MARISSA:
Just so you know,
883
00:37:15,005 --> 00:37:17,308
our mirror jury is loving her.
884
00:37:17,341 --> 00:37:18,442
How can you not?
885
00:37:22,078 --> 00:37:25,416
And while we need to do better
886
00:37:25,449 --> 00:37:26,583
to ferret out the liars,
887
00:37:26,617 --> 00:37:28,652
we can't let it stop our work.
888
00:37:28,685 --> 00:37:30,954
These clinical trials
exist for the greater good.
889
00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:32,889
Without them,
890
00:37:32,923 --> 00:37:36,427
there wouldn't be medical
innovations and discoveries,
891
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:37,861
new cures for everything
892
00:37:37,894 --> 00:37:40,464
from reproductive health
to cancer.
893
00:37:40,497 --> 00:37:41,832
BULL:
Something's going on.
894
00:37:41,865 --> 00:37:44,601
She's targeting
juror three. Why?
895
00:37:44,635 --> 00:37:46,803
Well, she's one of our greens,
and she just went red.
896
00:37:46,837 --> 00:37:49,740
Her friend recently passed
from cancer.
897
00:37:49,773 --> 00:37:53,444
Wow. This woman
will do anything to win.
898
00:37:53,477 --> 00:37:54,978
Reminds me of me.
899
00:37:58,649 --> 00:38:00,651
BENNY:
Good morning, Ms. Snyder.
900
00:38:00,684 --> 00:38:02,719
Isn't it true
that one of the major problems
901
00:38:02,753 --> 00:38:06,690
these clinical trials face
is recruiting subjects?
902
00:38:06,723 --> 00:38:10,561
I mean... I can't believe
that there's lots of people
903
00:38:10,594 --> 00:38:13,730
who are willing to put
untested drugs into their bodies
904
00:38:13,764 --> 00:38:15,732
for whatever
you're willing to pay them.
905
00:38:15,766 --> 00:38:18,769
Well, it's certainly
a lot easier
906
00:38:18,802 --> 00:38:20,837
to find subjects who suffer
from whatever condition
907
00:38:20,871 --> 00:38:21,938
we're trying to target.
908
00:38:21,972 --> 00:38:24,475
Yes.
909
00:38:24,508 --> 00:38:26,410
It can be incredibly
difficult
910
00:38:26,443 --> 00:38:28,645
finding healthy volunteers.
911
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:30,847
Truly healthy volunteers.
912
00:38:30,881 --> 00:38:34,785
BENNY:
And yet, until this drug,
until this lawsuit,
913
00:38:34,818 --> 00:38:36,953
your company
had a rare spotless record.
914
00:38:36,987 --> 00:38:39,356
None of the healthy
volunteers
915
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:41,124
in the 50 so years
916
00:38:41,157 --> 00:38:42,959
that the company
has been in existence ever...
917
00:38:42,993 --> 00:38:45,629
filed a claim
or sought a settlement.
918
00:38:45,662 --> 00:38:47,431
Is that why
919
00:38:47,464 --> 00:38:48,665
you decided
to hide the other suicide
920
00:38:48,699 --> 00:38:50,401
amongst
the ten healthy volunteers?
921
00:38:50,434 --> 00:38:51,835
(shocked murmuring)
922
00:38:55,105 --> 00:38:57,107
I love that sound.
923
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:59,476
Me, too.
924
00:38:59,510 --> 00:39:01,144
I have no idea
what you're talking about.
925
00:39:01,177 --> 00:39:03,814
Well, does the name
Edgar Paulson ring a bell?
926
00:39:05,616 --> 00:39:08,985
Edgar Paulson?
927
00:39:09,019 --> 00:39:10,887
A 62-year-old homeless man
928
00:39:10,921 --> 00:39:13,156
with dubious mental acuity
929
00:39:13,189 --> 00:39:16,026
who, up until the point
that he hung himself,
930
00:39:16,059 --> 00:39:19,896
was living at the Light
Mission Homeless Shelter?
931
00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:22,566
Is that
Dep Pharmaceutical's idea
932
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:24,401
of a healthy volunteer?
933
00:39:25,769 --> 00:39:27,804
MARISSA: Things are looking
greener and greener over here.
934
00:39:27,838 --> 00:39:31,442
I think you're mistaken.
935
00:39:31,475 --> 00:39:33,810
Mr. Paulson
was in absolutely fine...
936
00:39:33,844 --> 00:39:36,747
physical and mental shape.
937
00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:39,082
He had fallen
on hard times financially,
938
00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:41,685
and that had taken a toll
on his disposition.
939
00:39:41,718 --> 00:39:44,555
But from a purely clinical
standpoint,
940
00:39:44,588 --> 00:39:46,657
Mr. Paulson
was an ideal subject.
941
00:39:46,690 --> 00:39:50,461
Additionally, he finished
the trial successfully.
942
00:39:50,494 --> 00:39:53,196
Anything that may
have befallen him after that...
943
00:39:53,229 --> 00:39:54,865
Six days after that?
944
00:39:54,898 --> 00:39:56,633
Again, Mr. Paulson
945
00:39:56,667 --> 00:40:00,604
suffered from crushing
financial problems.
946
00:40:00,637 --> 00:40:03,807
I can only speculate that that
may be why he took his own life.
947
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,977
There's no causation there.
Ah.
948
00:40:07,010 --> 00:40:09,746
I guess we'll never know,
will we, Ms. Snyder?
949
00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:12,549
Since you conveniently paid
for the body to be cremated.
950
00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:13,784
(shocked murmuring)
951
00:40:13,817 --> 00:40:14,818
Objection.
952
00:40:14,851 --> 00:40:16,820
Relevance.
953
00:40:16,853 --> 00:40:17,921
Doesn't get more relevant
than that.
954
00:40:17,954 --> 00:40:21,492
But please ask the witness
a question
955
00:40:21,525 --> 00:40:23,794
as opposed to simply
making a statement.
956
00:40:23,827 --> 00:40:26,830
Yes. Ms. Snyder,
957
00:40:26,863 --> 00:40:29,766
did you or did you not
958
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,603
arrange for the cremation
of Mr. Edgar Paulson
959
00:40:32,636 --> 00:40:34,905
once you realized
he had killed himself
960
00:40:34,938 --> 00:40:37,908
after a one month course
of your new drug?
961
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:42,245
(whispering)
962
00:40:42,278 --> 00:40:44,748
Ms. Snyder?
963
00:40:46,783 --> 00:40:48,519
BULL:
Three...
964
00:40:48,552 --> 00:40:51,121
two...
965
00:40:52,823 --> 00:40:54,057
...one.
966
00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:59,530
Your Honor, would it be possible
to ask for a brief recess
967
00:40:59,563 --> 00:41:00,931
so the sides
could meet privately
968
00:41:00,964 --> 00:41:02,666
for a short discussion?
969
00:41:02,699 --> 00:41:04,935
Can you say "settlement"?
970
00:41:04,968 --> 00:41:07,137
JUDGE:
This court will take
a 90 minute recess.
971
00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:08,739
(gavel bangs)
972
00:41:08,772 --> 00:41:10,140
(gallery murmuring)
973
00:41:26,623 --> 00:41:27,991
(gentle piano music plays
in background)
974
00:41:28,024 --> 00:41:29,960
(door opens)
975
00:41:29,993 --> 00:41:32,028
(door closes)
BULL:
Oh.
976
00:41:32,062 --> 00:41:35,566
There you are.
977
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,868
Here I am.
Oh.
978
00:41:37,901 --> 00:41:40,904
Miss?
Uh, your oldest Scotch. Neat.
979
00:41:40,937 --> 00:41:42,606
And a glass of water, please.
980
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:43,874
Okay.
(chuckles)
981
00:41:43,907 --> 00:41:45,709
(sighs)
982
00:41:45,742 --> 00:41:47,744
You read my mind.
983
00:41:47,778 --> 00:41:49,846
But, then again,
that's what you do.
984
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,115
And you do it very well,
by the way.
985
00:41:55,151 --> 00:41:57,654
I, uh...
986
00:41:59,289 --> 00:42:02,593
I need you to know something.
987
00:42:02,626 --> 00:42:04,828
I didn't bribe
that friend of Simon's.
988
00:42:04,861 --> 00:42:06,663
I'm not saying
989
00:42:06,697 --> 00:42:08,999
that I didn't sense that
something might be afoot, but...
990
00:42:09,032 --> 00:42:11,101
I need you to know something.
991
00:42:11,134 --> 00:42:14,971
In the same way you inferred,
without saying as much,
992
00:42:15,005 --> 00:42:17,240
that Simon attempted suicide
with heroin--
993
00:42:17,273 --> 00:42:20,577
even though I strongly suspect
that's not what happened--
994
00:42:20,611 --> 00:42:23,279
Benny and I
995
00:42:23,313 --> 00:42:27,083
decided to infer
a little something
996
00:42:27,117 --> 00:42:29,586
that we had no way
of knowing was true.
997
00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:31,321
Maybe someone bribed him.
998
00:42:31,354 --> 00:42:34,357
Maybe someone didn't.
999
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:35,992
We took a shot.
1000
00:42:38,061 --> 00:42:40,063
Thank you.
1001
00:42:41,898 --> 00:42:44,067
Great minds.
1002
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,202
Here's to seeing you again.
1003
00:42:46,236 --> 00:42:48,038
Knowing better next time.
1004
00:42:48,071 --> 00:42:49,773
I already rue the day.
1005
00:42:49,806 --> 00:42:51,808
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