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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,656 --> 00:00:04,226 >> I started training for CBT Nuggets in 2003. 2 00:00:05,116 --> 00:00:07,846 As I looked back, I go, "Wow, it's a lot of years. 3 00:00:07,846 --> 00:00:09,656 It's a decade of my life." 4 00:00:09,766 --> 00:00:11,266 And yet, it doesn't feel that way. 5 00:00:11,266 --> 00:00:15,106 It's going so fast and I feel just the same as I did back then. 6 00:00:15,106 --> 00:00:18,776 So I guess it's just it's time goes faster and faster, right? 7 00:00:18,776 --> 00:00:25,476 So, over the years, I get a lot of questions, you know, in the Cisco world like, you know, 8 00:00:25,536 --> 00:00:28,026 how do I-- of course, you know, how do I configure something and something 9 00:00:28,026 --> 00:00:33,616 but one of the common questions I get is well, how do I get started in the world of Cisco? 10 00:00:33,616 --> 00:00:35,576 How do I get a job in the world of Cisco? 11 00:00:35,756 --> 00:00:39,976 How do I get started in the field of technology meaning that all these kind of things, 12 00:00:40,176 --> 00:00:44,216 and I put together a lot of-- I guess I could call them canned answers. 13 00:00:44,216 --> 00:00:46,726 I mean they're like thoughts in my mind if this is, you know, 14 00:00:46,726 --> 00:00:50,866 this is the best advice I could give you but then, I've had a number of people 15 00:00:50,866 --> 00:00:52,706 that say, "Well, how did you get started?" 16 00:00:53,616 --> 00:00:56,036 And I think well, it's nothing like my canned answers. 17 00:00:56,036 --> 00:00:58,036 It's nothing like the best advice I can give. 18 00:00:58,036 --> 00:00:59,886 I just kind of, how did I get here? 19 00:00:59,886 --> 00:01:01,206 I don't know. 20 00:01:01,206 --> 00:01:07,056 So I thought what I would do is put together a nugget that is my journey 21 00:01:07,056 --> 00:01:09,276 into the Cisco certification world. 22 00:01:09,496 --> 00:01:13,946 And it's a little weird to do, it's almost like Jeremy raw, and you know, it's like-- 23 00:01:13,946 --> 00:01:17,556 it's kind of weird to do a nugget like this because it's-- 24 00:01:17,556 --> 00:01:21,876 I don't usually like getting into the personal side of things but it's 25 00:01:21,876 --> 00:01:23,776 like to do something like this I had to. 26 00:01:24,736 --> 00:01:29,176 It would be weird to just say, "Oh, there are I am in Cisco without giving you any background." 27 00:01:29,206 --> 00:01:32,126 So let me draw a line on this chart-- right there. 28 00:01:32,246 --> 00:01:35,046 Y2K. Year 2000 is when I got into Cisco. 29 00:01:35,486 --> 00:01:40,816 Before then, let me give you the flyby of Jeremy before that world. 30 00:01:41,186 --> 00:01:43,736 Technology has always been an interest to me. 31 00:01:43,856 --> 00:01:49,026 From the minute my dad brought home a Timex Sinclair computer from a conference. 32 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:50,656 He got it free for going to this conference. 33 00:01:50,656 --> 00:01:51,846 So like, "Oh, here's a free computer." 34 00:01:51,846 --> 00:01:55,316 I mean you actually hook up a cassette tape player like an audio cassette 35 00:01:55,566 --> 00:01:57,996 and that was how you played your programs to this. 36 00:01:57,996 --> 00:02:03,016 And so, he was interested in computers and he ended up buying a Commodore Amiga 1000 37 00:02:03,106 --> 00:02:06,276 which was-- you know, that computer is way out of it's time. 38 00:02:06,276 --> 00:02:09,176 So he got into this world of BBSs with, 39 00:02:09,216 --> 00:02:12,706 I think he start with a 1200 baud modem and I just watched him. 40 00:02:12,706 --> 00:02:13,516 He's my dad. 41 00:02:13,516 --> 00:02:16,786 I'm not trying to figure out what he's doing and I'm watching like this is pretty cool. 42 00:02:16,786 --> 00:02:18,386 You dial up, you know, all these people. 43 00:02:18,386 --> 00:02:22,356 It's like a thing of BBSs, bulletin board system is the internet before there was one. 44 00:02:22,846 --> 00:02:27,326 And so, he was dialing up all these different places and trading files and leaving messages, 45 00:02:27,326 --> 00:02:28,516 and I'm like, "Oh, this is great." 46 00:02:28,516 --> 00:02:33,496 So, I as his son get into that, I'm dialing up and my dream was to run my own. 47 00:02:33,496 --> 00:02:40,166 So eventually my parents both me a 9600 baud practical peripherals external LCD display, 48 00:02:40,166 --> 00:02:40,736 it was crazy. 49 00:02:40,876 --> 00:02:43,926 It's one of the most amazing purchases ever modem. 50 00:02:43,926 --> 00:02:47,576 And they got me a phone line and there I was, you know, receiving calls. 51 00:02:47,576 --> 00:02:48,776 I run my own BBS. 52 00:02:48,806 --> 00:02:51,006 So I always had this technology bent. 53 00:02:51,006 --> 00:02:55,226 And so when I looked for a job, I naturally gravitated to technology. 54 00:02:55,436 --> 00:03:00,836 And so, I guess before I even made this chart, I was at department stores selling computers. 55 00:03:00,906 --> 00:03:05,196 Thinking I knew a lot more than I did, but who could tell me different back then. 56 00:03:05,196 --> 00:03:06,116 You know, I was ignorant. 57 00:03:06,496 --> 00:03:10,976 And the-- and so, I'm selling computers eventually landed a company called MicroH. 58 00:03:12,136 --> 00:03:17,276 And MicroH, they were actually contracted by Apple and Compaq. 59 00:03:17,346 --> 00:03:19,416 You know, at Compaq is no more, they're gone. 60 00:03:19,686 --> 00:03:22,926 Apple, I mean, you guys know who Apple is, but I think of Apple 61 00:03:22,926 --> 00:03:25,546 as like these mountains of technology, you know. 62 00:03:25,546 --> 00:03:27,326 They used to be massive. 63 00:03:27,326 --> 00:03:31,316 It's like, you know, every school that you went to, Apple computer is everywhere, every job, 64 00:03:31,316 --> 00:03:33,406 and you know, Apple was the computer. 65 00:03:33,796 --> 00:03:38,996 And then, you know, somewhere, I don't know why or how, but they just went down hill quick. 66 00:03:38,996 --> 00:03:41,306 I mean to the point of like nobody wants an Apple and all that. 67 00:03:41,306 --> 00:03:44,646 So, right here, you know, that's where the iPad came out and kind 68 00:03:44,646 --> 00:03:47,706 of resurrected the company and all that saga. 69 00:03:47,706 --> 00:03:52,356 So I was right here, right in the middle of that mountain and my job initially, 70 00:03:52,356 --> 00:03:53,916 there was a take a credit cared numbers. 71 00:03:54,546 --> 00:03:58,756 When Apple was one of the first companies that charge for tech support, so people would call 72 00:03:59,156 --> 00:04:02,416 and I was the guy who said, "Well, before you can speak to a technician, 73 00:04:02,416 --> 00:04:03,566 let me get your credit card number." 74 00:04:03,566 --> 00:04:05,216 So I got yelled at a lot. 75 00:04:05,556 --> 00:04:09,266 And while people are yelling, I was looking at the Apple computer and trying to figure it out 76 00:04:09,266 --> 00:04:11,026 and playing with them like I can do this. 77 00:04:11,026 --> 00:04:14,666 And they have all this training manuals at MicroH that I could use to learn. 78 00:04:15,006 --> 00:04:19,466 And so before long, they promoted me out of credit card into real tech support. 79 00:04:19,746 --> 00:04:23,646 And so I began were a lot of you began which is on the phone. 80 00:04:23,646 --> 00:04:26,946 So you know, taking tech support calls, telling people to reimage their computers ahead, 81 00:04:27,246 --> 00:04:29,076 you know, no business reimaging their computer. 82 00:04:29,076 --> 00:04:30,086 I just didn't know the answer. 83 00:04:30,086 --> 00:04:33,976 So anyway, all the side notes beside. 84 00:04:33,976 --> 00:04:37,216 At the same time, I'm going to college for a computer science degree. 85 00:04:38,246 --> 00:04:41,496 Why? Because that's all anybody told me. 86 00:04:41,636 --> 00:04:47,136 Every time I talk to a counselor at the college campus, I talked to anybody, and there like, 87 00:04:47,136 --> 00:04:51,226 "Oh well, if you want to do anything real in the technology world, you got to be a programmer." 88 00:04:51,626 --> 00:04:56,476 And oh, my word, if I would have only known, you know, there was other field, 89 00:04:56,476 --> 00:05:00,486 and I know a lot of people out there just don't know that there are other things 90 00:05:00,486 --> 00:05:02,986 than computer programming because I hated it. 91 00:05:02,986 --> 00:05:06,546 I would go to the classes, I had no relevance for it, you know, okay, 92 00:05:06,546 --> 00:05:08,926 this and if then, while, loop, huh, why? 93 00:05:08,926 --> 00:05:13,206 Okay. Variable X, why-- like it just-- I didn't see the point. 94 00:05:13,206 --> 00:05:14,906 There was no real world application. 95 00:05:14,906 --> 00:05:19,576 This was before there are really was a common internet that everybody connected to. 96 00:05:19,576 --> 00:05:21,426 So I'm just like okay, why would I want to do it? 97 00:05:21,426 --> 00:05:23,346 Like it just didn't make sense, I didn't care about it. 98 00:05:23,666 --> 00:05:25,386 The-- so I didn't well at it. 99 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:32,806 So, three years into the degree, finals week began a series of misfortunate events in my life 100 00:05:32,806 --> 00:05:34,546 to where I was in a motorcycle accident. 101 00:05:34,586 --> 00:05:38,966 Followed by a high speed car accident, the month following. 102 00:05:38,966 --> 00:05:45,226 So essentially, left me brain damaged and I laughed, but I seriously and unable 103 00:05:45,226 --> 00:05:46,526 to complete the computer science degree. 104 00:05:46,526 --> 00:05:52,966 So after three years I stopped, and after much rehab and miracles, et cetera in my life, 105 00:05:52,966 --> 00:05:56,436 I ended back at MicroH now working on an assembly line. 106 00:05:56,436 --> 00:06:01,786 Building computers and that was one of the things is we would build them. 107 00:06:01,786 --> 00:06:03,506 We would put windows and T on them. 108 00:06:04,046 --> 00:06:05,146 Ship them off to a company. 109 00:06:05,146 --> 00:06:09,656 So the company would just have to unbox them and it would be ready for their system. 110 00:06:09,656 --> 00:06:15,376 And so, I show up to work one day and some goes, "Oh, Jeremy, you're supposed to be in class." 111 00:06:15,376 --> 00:06:16,866 And I go, "Oh, where?" 112 00:06:16,866 --> 00:06:17,686 They go across the street. 113 00:06:17,686 --> 00:06:25,146 Okay. So I run across the street and there I walk into my first MCSC class. 114 00:06:25,146 --> 00:06:29,786 Now looking back wasn't supposed to be there, it was actually the schedule 115 00:06:29,786 --> 00:06:32,276 that my department but not me that should go there. 116 00:06:32,576 --> 00:06:35,626 And there was actually two classes along in the track. 117 00:06:35,626 --> 00:06:41,026 So it's way above my head, but I'm sitting there in this class watching this instructor 118 00:06:41,026 --> 00:06:46,116 who is talking about users, and groups, and global, and local, and domains. 119 00:06:46,116 --> 00:06:47,476 And I'm like, "Oh, my word." 120 00:06:47,476 --> 00:06:50,566 I'd never even knew this side of the technology field existed. 121 00:06:50,716 --> 00:06:52,276 Like this is interesting to me. 122 00:06:52,276 --> 00:06:54,706 It was over my head, but boy, was it interesting. 123 00:06:54,986 --> 00:06:59,116 And I was just like men, and I realized as I'm sitting or watching this guy rustle 124 00:06:59,116 --> 00:07:02,766 and dazzle me with domains and trust and all those stuff that Microsoft had. 125 00:07:03,156 --> 00:07:10,556 I'm sitting there and the chair just going "I bet, I bet that guy never forgets." 126 00:07:10,866 --> 00:07:14,046 I bet he never forgets all the stuff he's talking but he's talking about all the time. 127 00:07:14,556 --> 00:07:18,586 And so, you know, it's like, sneak peak into Jeremy's motivation to get into teaching. 128 00:07:19,226 --> 00:07:20,316 I didn't want to forget. 129 00:07:20,386 --> 00:07:22,876 You know, I really didn't have much-- 130 00:07:22,986 --> 00:07:27,746 like previous experience or anything like that was just I bet you he doesn't forget anything. 131 00:07:28,106 --> 00:07:31,046 So I get back and then like I can't believe you didn't tell us. 132 00:07:31,046 --> 00:07:33,556 You weren't supposed to be at that class and we're never sending you 133 00:07:33,556 --> 00:07:36,396 to anther class, and it was just not good. 134 00:07:36,396 --> 00:07:37,816 And I didn't know. 135 00:07:37,816 --> 00:07:39,476 I did just said, "Go to class." 136 00:07:39,476 --> 00:07:43,896 So, no more funding for the company to take classes so I started buying them myself. 137 00:07:43,896 --> 00:07:45,386 I said, "Well, this is so interesting. 138 00:07:45,386 --> 00:07:47,466 I want to start going into these classes." 139 00:07:47,466 --> 00:07:49,266 So I've start buying these classes. 140 00:07:49,266 --> 00:07:52,396 And so, I'm going to the training company one day. 141 00:07:53,436 --> 00:07:55,716 And now, you're wondering how or how-- I'm getting there. 142 00:07:55,846 --> 00:07:59,726 This is-- you just want that the raw Jeremy of how I got 143 00:07:59,726 --> 00:08:02,506 into technology 'cause I will tell you, I've heard more stories 144 00:08:02,506 --> 00:08:03,846 that are just whacked out like this. 145 00:08:04,316 --> 00:08:05,306 This is how it happened. 146 00:08:05,306 --> 00:08:08,626 I walked into the training company to take a certification exam. 147 00:08:08,746 --> 00:08:11,826 I still remember, it was the 688 exam Microsoft TCPIP. 148 00:08:11,826 --> 00:08:16,646 I had no idea about submitting and all that back then but I was ready for the test. 149 00:08:16,646 --> 00:08:19,966 And so, I was waiting for the test to begin, you know, waiting for the test. 150 00:08:19,966 --> 00:08:22,146 And I talked to the receptionist, and I said, 151 00:08:22,246 --> 00:08:26,566 what does it take to get a job teaching at a company like this? 152 00:08:26,866 --> 00:08:29,476 And the receptionist like then she goes, "Oh, you know what? 153 00:08:29,476 --> 00:08:30,916 We're actually looking for trainers. 154 00:08:30,916 --> 00:08:32,256 And she said, "Let me call the manager." 155 00:08:32,976 --> 00:08:36,256 And I'm like-- you know, I'm like backing out. 156 00:08:36,386 --> 00:08:37,536 And so, she calls the manager. 157 00:08:37,786 --> 00:08:41,176 Manager comes in and he goes "Oh so I hear you want to be a trainer?" 158 00:08:41,176 --> 00:08:44,336 And I said, "Well, I was just curious, what does it take? 159 00:08:44,336 --> 00:08:46,526 I mean, how do you"-- and he goes, "I tell you what. 160 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:47,256 I tell you what. 161 00:08:47,776 --> 00:08:51,186 You pass this exam" because by then my seat had freed up and I was going in for the exam, 162 00:08:51,186 --> 00:08:53,256 he goes, "You pass this exam, you're hired." 163 00:08:54,016 --> 00:08:55,556 I'm not kidding. 164 00:08:55,556 --> 00:08:56,816 So I'm like, "Huh? 165 00:08:56,966 --> 00:08:59,616 What?" and I can feel some of the back details. 166 00:08:59,616 --> 00:09:04,336 So I go in to take this test, shaking, not only because the normal testers, 167 00:09:04,336 --> 00:09:05,786 but this is like a job interview. 168 00:09:06,296 --> 00:09:11,616 I'm going to take this test and I pass, and I come out, and he goes "Well, you're hired." 169 00:09:11,916 --> 00:09:14,316 And so, now, let me fill in some of the back details. 170 00:09:14,316 --> 00:09:15,266 You're like, "This is crazy." 171 00:09:15,266 --> 00:09:18,406 It is. I found later that this company does this all time. 172 00:09:18,406 --> 00:09:22,326 They hire anybody and they throw them in front of a room, and if the person survives 173 00:09:22,326 --> 00:09:24,006 and does well great, otherwise, you're fired. 174 00:09:24,426 --> 00:09:26,006 That's pretty much the game. 175 00:09:26,006 --> 00:09:29,826 So he goes well, you're first class is going to be in a couple of weeks. 176 00:09:30,106 --> 00:09:32,656 You're going to be teaching US West technicians about this up 177 00:09:32,656 --> 00:09:39,646 and coming technologies called DSL, and how to install in network card, and he said, "Well, 178 00:09:39,646 --> 00:09:41,486 here's the book that we've created to do this." 179 00:09:41,486 --> 00:09:43,846 So go and study that you're be ready to teach. 180 00:09:43,876 --> 00:09:45,726 So I'm like oh my words. 181 00:09:45,726 --> 00:09:48,866 So I'm thinking, okay, I got to prepare and all this [inaudible]. 182 00:09:48,866 --> 00:09:50,436 So, you know, I end up in front 183 00:09:50,436 --> 00:09:54,706 of a room sweating not ever doing really any public speaking before. 184 00:09:54,946 --> 00:09:58,746 Looking at the second hand on the clock as the people are going through their introductions 185 00:09:58,746 --> 00:10:04,416 and saying to myself, if the minute hand reaches the ten, you know, I had this mark 186 00:10:04,516 --> 00:10:07,326 and I still feel this way, I am walking out of this room 187 00:10:07,396 --> 00:10:08,976 and I never stepping foot in the classroom again. 188 00:10:09,386 --> 00:10:14,116 So, long story, short, someone ask me a question and another person ask me a question, 189 00:10:14,116 --> 00:10:17,576 and it was literally questions, it's how I taught my first class. 190 00:10:17,656 --> 00:10:20,846 Teaching these US West technicians, and thus, there I was. 191 00:10:20,846 --> 00:10:27,676 So, I left US West technician support and start teaching Microsoft and then move into Novell 192 00:10:27,916 --> 00:10:31,666 And then fill in, you know, this is blah, blah, blah, you know, years in the Microsoft world, 193 00:10:31,966 --> 00:10:34,896 you know, got into consulting, moved between various training companies. 194 00:10:34,896 --> 00:10:42,466 All these kind of stuffs Y2K, I'm Microsoft certified system engineer for Windows NT 195 00:10:42,466 --> 00:10:47,626 in 2000, and certified Novell engineer for NetWare 4 196 00:10:47,626 --> 00:10:50,496 and NetWare 5 and I want to try something new. 197 00:10:50,496 --> 00:10:55,086 So, I talked to a company called KnowledgeNet who contacted me. 198 00:10:55,086 --> 00:11:01,306 They're looking for trainers for this new eLearning concept and KnowledgeNet is no more. 199 00:11:01,696 --> 00:11:05,536 But back then, it was like if you had a .Com in your name like millions of dollars, 200 00:11:05,536 --> 00:11:08,846 and their like hey, you hire on for us, we'll give you tons of stock options. 201 00:11:08,846 --> 00:11:10,236 You'll be reached and all that. 202 00:11:10,316 --> 00:11:11,516 Tat didn't work. 203 00:11:11,816 --> 00:11:14,526 But I say, "Well, I tell you want. 204 00:11:14,526 --> 00:11:19,306 If I'm going to come teach, I really want to get into the world of Cisco." 205 00:11:20,146 --> 00:11:23,106 So they said "Great, come on, come on over." 206 00:11:23,106 --> 00:11:24,786 And so I came over and they say, "Okay, 207 00:11:24,786 --> 00:11:27,036 you're going to start setting Cisco," get your CCIE exam. 208 00:11:27,036 --> 00:11:28,596 So I'm studying CCIE. 209 00:11:28,596 --> 00:11:32,446 Back then, you know, in the year 2000, the CCNA was nothing, 210 00:11:32,566 --> 00:11:35,286 I mean it was just a series of multiple choice questions. 211 00:11:35,286 --> 00:11:36,696 It was one exam, it wasn't two. 212 00:11:37,216 --> 00:11:41,146 And I was good at reading books and be able to recite information. 213 00:11:41,146 --> 00:11:42,556 That was a talent of mine. 214 00:11:42,556 --> 00:11:46,366 And so, I was able to pass the exam within a month of hiring 215 00:11:46,516 --> 00:11:49,646 at KnowledgeNet and knew nothing. 216 00:11:49,926 --> 00:11:54,696 I could pass the exam but really if you ask me to configure device from scratch, I'll be like. 217 00:11:54,696 --> 00:11:59,346 I can change the host name, you know, it was very, very sketchy. 218 00:11:59,346 --> 00:12:02,276 And so, the month after, they go, "Okay, you got your CCNA. 219 00:12:02,276 --> 00:12:03,346 Why don't you get your CCNP?" 220 00:12:03,346 --> 00:12:05,986 So I got the entire CCNP in a month. 221 00:12:06,116 --> 00:12:10,016 And now, that-- when I tell people that, they're like, "Man, you're so smart." 222 00:12:10,116 --> 00:12:11,346 No, I'm not. 223 00:12:11,346 --> 00:12:13,746 Its-- back then, you could have done it too. 224 00:12:13,746 --> 00:12:20,736 If you were paid study, if you were given 40 hours a week to study and you have the caliber 225 00:12:20,736 --> 00:12:24,256 of exam-- I guarantee, you'll be just fine passing those exams. 226 00:12:24,256 --> 00:12:27,956 So, so the month after that, you know, they're ramping up. 227 00:12:27,956 --> 00:12:30,906 I'm starting to teach a few classes but they go, "Okay. 228 00:12:30,906 --> 00:12:32,246 Well, we've got some extra funds." 229 00:12:32,246 --> 00:12:34,606 This was before the crash of the .Com companies. 230 00:12:35,046 --> 00:12:36,926 And they said, "We have some extra funds. 231 00:12:37,216 --> 00:12:39,236 Why don't you go take your CCIE?" 232 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:42,446 And so me thinking, you know, the CCIE is just like all the rest. 233 00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:44,406 I said, "Okay, sure. 234 00:12:44,446 --> 00:12:45,266 Well, okay." 235 00:12:45,536 --> 00:12:47,946 And then, they're like,"Okay, we'll get your plane ticket." 236 00:12:47,946 --> 00:12:49,636 And I was like, huh, plane tickets? 237 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:53,146 That's-- you can see my underline, absolute failure. 238 00:12:53,146 --> 00:12:53,946 I was okay. 239 00:12:53,946 --> 00:12:55,726 Well, I think-- okay. 240 00:12:55,726 --> 00:12:57,026 There's a qualification exam. 241 00:12:57,116 --> 00:12:58,566 I passed the qualification exam. 242 00:12:58,566 --> 00:13:02,746 Again, multiple choice, you know, read the book, pass the exam. 243 00:13:02,746 --> 00:13:04,706 End up sitting in San Jose. 244 00:13:05,836 --> 00:13:10,526 Walking into my first CCIE exam, looking at the rack of equipment 245 00:13:10,526 --> 00:13:14,016 and going "Wow" I've never seen one of those before. 246 00:13:14,416 --> 00:13:16,776 That's a first on [inaudible], you're not meant to be there. 247 00:13:17,136 --> 00:13:19,146 And just open the book, you know, they're like. 248 00:13:19,146 --> 00:13:22,726 Okay. Begin, click, click, you know, the timer is started and I open the book 249 00:13:22,726 --> 00:13:25,616 and I'm just like and this is I am no way. 250 00:13:25,736 --> 00:13:28,566 And so, it was literally eight hours of just playing 251 00:13:28,566 --> 00:13:31,326 around on Cisco devices I've never touch before. 252 00:13:31,376 --> 00:13:35,536 You know, of course, flying out, I'm having the whole time like maybe I passed, 253 00:13:35,536 --> 00:13:40,006 maybe somehow I script by, man, you know, get home, dismal failure. 254 00:13:40,166 --> 00:13:47,566 So I take a year of life and all this time, I'm starting to get into the Cisco world, 255 00:13:47,566 --> 00:13:51,496 teaching all the CCNA and CNNP classes and really, I mean really getting it out now. 256 00:13:51,496 --> 00:13:55,536 I'm really starting to understand and filling a lot of the gaps by doing it, 257 00:13:55,536 --> 00:13:58,606 by having to create scenarios, you know, build. 258 00:13:58,606 --> 00:14:03,016 Starting to consult a little bit for people that are standing up networks and really, 259 00:14:03,016 --> 00:14:04,146 I mean really starting to get it. 260 00:14:04,146 --> 00:14:10,466 So I've got a year of teaching, studying, consulting between attempt one and two. 261 00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:13,646 So I scheduled the exam the second time. 262 00:14:13,646 --> 00:14:19,536 Fly out to Cisco, take the exam, just feel awesome going through it. 263 00:14:19,536 --> 00:14:20,966 I'm like okay, I've got it. 264 00:14:20,966 --> 00:14:21,596 It makes sense. 265 00:14:21,596 --> 00:14:22,176 Okay. Got it. 266 00:14:22,176 --> 00:14:23,096 Okay. Great. 267 00:14:23,096 --> 00:14:24,476 Finish the exam early. 268 00:14:24,476 --> 00:14:28,076 I finish the CCIE, you know, probably about half an hour early, you know. 269 00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:30,126 And then I'm looking, I'm like okay, well now is my chance to go 270 00:14:30,126 --> 00:14:31,466 through and I guess test some things. 271 00:14:31,466 --> 00:14:32,716 And I'm feeling good. 272 00:14:32,776 --> 00:14:34,826 So I get out the exam. 273 00:14:34,826 --> 00:14:36,516 I'm calling family and friends. 274 00:14:36,516 --> 00:14:37,936 I'm like "Oh, thank you so much." 275 00:14:38,346 --> 00:14:43,086 I know I passed, you know, obviously, I don't know until I get home. 276 00:14:43,086 --> 00:14:45,286 And they post my school reports. 277 00:14:45,286 --> 00:14:51,876 So, it's one of those nights and [inaudible] I'll always remember I woke up literally at four 278 00:14:51,876 --> 00:14:57,136 in the morning-- the next morning just staring at the ceiling and I was like I wonder 279 00:14:57,136 --> 00:14:58,846 if they have my score report posted. 280 00:14:59,216 --> 00:15:04,276 So I came in to the office and pull up the school report online, 281 00:15:04,276 --> 00:15:08,826 and the CCIE in all its confidential ways doesn't tell you a thing. 282 00:15:09,036 --> 00:15:11,716 I just logged in social security, I mean, you failed. 283 00:15:12,466 --> 00:15:13,996 I'm like, what? 284 00:15:14,066 --> 00:15:18,086 You know, F5, F5, you know, by then my wife has snuck in behind me 285 00:15:18,086 --> 00:15:19,856 and she's like "What are you doing up?" 286 00:15:19,856 --> 00:15:21,916 And I say, "I totally failed." 287 00:15:22,166 --> 00:15:24,526 I don't understand and that's why I'm saying I'm confused. 288 00:15:24,526 --> 00:15:27,036 I still to this day I'm like I don't get it. 289 00:15:27,036 --> 00:15:27,856 I don't understand. 290 00:15:28,126 --> 00:15:30,516 And so, I'm like, you know, F5, refresh. 291 00:15:30,516 --> 00:15:33,156 I'm trying to understand why and I'm like this. 292 00:15:33,416 --> 00:15:36,016 There has to be a mistake. 293 00:15:36,016 --> 00:15:41,256 And so, I called Cisco the next day and I'm like, I know there has to be-- I know I passed. 294 00:15:41,256 --> 00:15:42,886 And they say, "Well, I tell you what." 295 00:15:43,146 --> 00:15:46,146 There-- I can't even remember how much it was but they're like. 296 00:15:46,146 --> 00:15:47,576 It's like something like 200 dollars. 297 00:15:47,576 --> 00:15:53,366 Like tell you want, we will regrade your exam by hand for an extra 200 dollars. 298 00:15:53,366 --> 00:15:54,186 I'm like, done. 299 00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:57,756 As I put the credit card number on the line, graded by hand. 300 00:15:58,196 --> 00:16:01,456 They comeback an hour later and they're like "I'm sorry, you still fail 301 00:16:01,696 --> 00:16:03,926 but your score went up by like 20 points." 302 00:16:04,346 --> 00:16:05,396 I'm like "What?" 303 00:16:05,396 --> 00:16:09,606 You know, by then I'm like conspiracy, they are just after my money. 304 00:16:09,606 --> 00:16:13,286 And then, you know, oh men, it was a bad time of my life. 305 00:16:13,286 --> 00:16:16,176 I'm like, you know, I said, "Forget Cisco, I'm done with this, you know." 306 00:16:16,176 --> 00:16:19,826 Okay. So after all, that settles down. 307 00:16:19,826 --> 00:16:23,036 I'm like, okay, I did not spend a year of my life studying this, 308 00:16:23,036 --> 00:16:25,326 trying to get this, just to give up now. 309 00:16:25,326 --> 00:16:27,896 I was like I don't know why I didn't pass. 310 00:16:28,126 --> 00:16:30,506 This has been miserable but I've got to try it again. 311 00:16:30,506 --> 00:16:35,286 So, a month later literally with no studying at all, I did, I think some practice exams, 312 00:16:35,286 --> 00:16:39,926 you know, like practice labs, but really, no real studying, 313 00:16:39,926 --> 00:16:41,646 a month later I go, take the exam. 314 00:16:41,646 --> 00:16:46,146 This time it's very wise not to call anybody until you know you pass. 315 00:16:46,256 --> 00:16:51,276 And I get out and same feeling, I still feel good but I don't call anybody. 316 00:16:51,276 --> 00:16:55,576 I fly home and by time I had flown home back to Arizona, I logged in 317 00:16:55,636 --> 00:16:57,986 and they are like success, you pass. 318 00:16:58,356 --> 00:16:59,346 You've got your CCIE. 319 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:04,576 And you know, there is-- I can't even tell you the feeling, I mean, 320 00:17:04,576 --> 00:17:06,096 people are like, oh men, were you thrilled? 321 00:17:06,476 --> 00:17:08,176 No, I was just exhausted. 322 00:17:08,176 --> 00:17:11,516 I was-- it was like-- it was like running a marathon and you reached the end. 323 00:17:11,516 --> 00:17:14,926 You're like I am done [inaudible] and you just hit the ground. 324 00:17:15,186 --> 00:17:19,376 You're like, you're happy, you finish, you know that you're going to be talking about this 325 00:17:19,376 --> 00:17:21,806 in a couple of weeks, but men, right now, you're just hurt. 326 00:17:22,176 --> 00:17:24,476 And so that was the success of CCIE. 327 00:17:24,636 --> 00:17:31,336 So, and I shouldn't say, you know, between attempt two and attempt three, in that month, 328 00:17:31,336 --> 00:17:33,776 it's looks like more than a month because of the spread, but nonetheless, 329 00:17:33,776 --> 00:17:35,846 I'm beginning teaching-- writing books. 330 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:42,356 So Pearson who's a big giant publishing company got my name 331 00:17:42,356 --> 00:17:45,246 from actually a book I had created years ago. 332 00:17:45,246 --> 00:17:51,406 Microsoft ISA Server 2000, I wrote that back in 1998. 333 00:17:51,406 --> 00:17:53,476 And so, they got my name from there and I start-- 334 00:17:53,476 --> 00:17:55,486 at that point, I started writing some exam cram books. 335 00:17:56,596 --> 00:18:01,496 And Pearson being the giant company that they are, does exam cram, they do Cisco press, 336 00:18:01,496 --> 00:18:02,816 I mean there's a lot of publishing [inaudible]. 337 00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:05,066 So that's where I started-- I started writing books. 338 00:18:05,066 --> 00:18:11,586 Again, all of this-- so, you know, as I'm trying to put all these pieces together actual hand. 339 00:18:11,586 --> 00:18:12,846 I don't want to go there yet. 340 00:18:12,846 --> 00:18:14,646 Let me put that thought at the end. 341 00:18:14,646 --> 00:18:16,066 Let me finish this journey. 342 00:18:16,426 --> 00:18:20,476 So, I began writing books, started after CCIE, you know, 343 00:18:20,476 --> 00:18:23,336 started getting into the other technologies like voice and security. 344 00:18:23,736 --> 00:18:28,156 Back then it was called the CCVP and CCSP certifications. 345 00:18:28,286 --> 00:18:32,506 I got into those but there is just a huge demand and still is for voice over IP. 346 00:18:32,616 --> 00:18:37,806 So that's where I start getting a specialized and renewed my CCIE certification 347 00:18:37,806 --> 00:18:40,856 by passing the CCIE voice written. 348 00:18:41,126 --> 00:18:46,576 Now, this-- I have-- I've had people out there like I heard you're like a nine times CCIE. 349 00:18:46,576 --> 00:18:51,906 I only have my CCIE currently today in routing switching. 350 00:18:51,986 --> 00:18:55,176 People ask me all the time if I'm going to get another CCIE in voice 351 00:18:55,176 --> 00:18:58,486 or security and I would say, "Maybe, maybe. 352 00:18:58,486 --> 00:19:01,746 If I really see a need for it, maybe." 353 00:19:02,116 --> 00:19:07,076 But I mean back-- I mean this point right here was I'm married. 354 00:19:07,516 --> 00:19:11,156 No kids. Now I have four children and more to come. 355 00:19:11,446 --> 00:19:18,336 So it's like when I started thinking about a CCIM like wow, I can't just go in my closet 356 00:19:18,336 --> 00:19:20,426 for hours, and hours, and hours at the time to study. 357 00:19:20,426 --> 00:19:21,966 It would be much more difficult. 358 00:19:21,966 --> 00:19:27,466 So I really have to see a need for that but, you know, I have enough in voice and security 359 00:19:27,466 --> 00:19:29,886 that I'm like, I feel totally comfortable. 360 00:19:30,056 --> 00:19:32,366 And when you get one CCIE, I mean you really-- 361 00:19:32,746 --> 00:19:35,986 I would say the biggest thing the CCIE gives you is a lot of confidence. 362 00:19:35,986 --> 00:19:39,776 I mean you really feel like not only do I have a good understanding 363 00:19:39,776 --> 00:19:45,546 of whatever topic I've got my CCIE in, but you lose the fear of new stuff. 364 00:19:45,546 --> 00:19:50,416 You're kind of like, I've gone into so many new things now that I know I can figure it out. 365 00:19:50,416 --> 00:19:53,086 And I just need some time, and I need to, you know, play around with it. 366 00:19:53,126 --> 00:19:58,546 So, around 2004, I got into Cisco consulting and that was 367 00:19:58,546 --> 00:20:00,316 where I went full-time Cisco consulting. 368 00:20:01,046 --> 00:20:07,996 I mean that was what I did and just got, you know what, I still don't get this. 369 00:20:07,996 --> 00:20:11,616 My brother is our big gamers and they used to be-- 370 00:20:11,616 --> 00:20:14,186 I don't know if this phrase is still around but down the shooter games. 371 00:20:14,376 --> 00:20:17,366 They're like, "Oh, men, you got poned," you know, and I was like, what's that mean? 372 00:20:17,366 --> 00:20:18,346 That's not even a real word. 373 00:20:18,346 --> 00:20:21,666 And they're like that means you got, you know, destroyed, like they own you, 374 00:20:21,876 --> 00:20:24,566 like why don't you just say you got owned but nonetheless [inaudible]. 375 00:20:24,996 --> 00:20:29,456 So I got into Cisco consulting and got poned into where, you know, I-- 376 00:20:29,456 --> 00:20:31,466 that's where I was like, oh men, you know what? 377 00:20:31,466 --> 00:20:35,246 Just understanding the configuration of things is not all you need. 378 00:20:35,466 --> 00:20:39,576 You need to understand things like notification and outage windows and, oh yeah, 379 00:20:39,576 --> 00:20:41,476 don't type that during the business day. 380 00:20:41,476 --> 00:20:48,766 And I mean, just-- the amount of ignorant mistakes I made in 2004 is absurd. 381 00:20:48,846 --> 00:20:56,126 So, wow, you know, talking about having a real world drop in the pond at that point. 382 00:20:56,126 --> 00:21:00,446 So I started blog at the same time, 2004, called CiscoBlog. 383 00:21:00,446 --> 00:21:04,866 And I don't know why I put that u, it's just I get a fun story now, 384 00:21:04,866 --> 00:21:09,746 but run that for four years, I think in 2008 or '09. 385 00:21:10,606 --> 00:21:14,586 Cisco contacted me and said, "You can't use that domain name anymore." 386 00:21:15,176 --> 00:21:16,296 And I said, "Why not?" 387 00:21:16,396 --> 00:21:20,136 You know, because by then it's actually it was in the tens of thousand, actually, 388 00:21:20,136 --> 00:21:25,016 hundreds of thousands of hits every week just a lot and I had this little Google ads 389 00:21:25,016 --> 00:21:26,236 and those things can make some money. 390 00:21:26,236 --> 00:21:30,156 And I was actually making a descent income off of CiscoBlog and I'm like just off that, 391 00:21:30,186 --> 00:21:31,486 you know, people that click the ads. 392 00:21:32,026 --> 00:21:34,286 And I was like well you can't take that away. 393 00:21:34,286 --> 00:21:35,676 And they go actually, did you know 394 00:21:35,966 --> 00:21:41,126 in the certification agreement, you know, like clause B 59A6. 395 00:21:41,126 --> 00:21:44,786 They're like you cannot use any Cisco trademark without authorization 396 00:21:44,786 --> 00:21:46,446 or else we'll strip all your certifications from you. 397 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:51,276 And I said, oh, so if I keep using CiscoBlog, you're going take all my certifications? 398 00:21:51,406 --> 00:21:52,266 And they're like, yes. 399 00:21:52,396 --> 00:21:55,156 And I was well, there's the end of that. 400 00:21:55,156 --> 00:21:59,226 So, I posted on the website, I said, you know, well, you know, it's been fun. 401 00:21:59,226 --> 00:22:03,726 Thanks, and Cisco is taking the site from me, but you know, thanks. 402 00:22:03,726 --> 00:22:08,546 I didn't say anything derogatory but men, the flurry that I cost and I ended up going 403 00:22:08,546 --> 00:22:11,586 on for Cisco's Facebook page like I can believe you guys are doing it. 404 00:22:11,586 --> 00:22:15,586 And so now, Cisco legal contacted me initially 405 00:22:15,586 --> 00:22:18,986 but then Cisco customer relations contacted me later that, oh what can we do? 406 00:22:18,986 --> 00:22:21,316 And I was like, I don't know. 407 00:22:21,316 --> 00:22:24,176 How about let me keep CiscoBlog.com? 408 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:27,276 And they're like, well we can't do-- I mean, again, let me boil the long story short. 409 00:22:27,276 --> 00:22:30,896 I found out later that I guess there was some other company that was using Cisco 410 00:22:30,896 --> 00:22:37,626 in their name selling illegal or kind of like third like knock off Cisco equipment. 411 00:22:37,796 --> 00:22:40,566 Like, you know, RAM that was not authorized but they had Cisco 412 00:22:40,566 --> 00:22:41,946 in the names so it looks like Cisco. 413 00:22:42,246 --> 00:22:46,556 So they got busted, and they said, "Well, wait a sec, that guy is doing it at CiscoBlog.com. 414 00:22:46,556 --> 00:22:48,356 So, I was kind like shrapnel. 415 00:22:48,506 --> 00:22:51,746 Like CiscoBlog died because of the explosive of shrapnel 416 00:22:51,996 --> 00:22:57,476 on whatever website got nailed originally by Cisco for doing all kinds of fragile and stuff. 417 00:22:57,476 --> 00:23:04,296 But nonetheless, I got a free t-shirt and now my blog is called tekcert, T-E-K-C-E-R-T dot com. 418 00:23:04,296 --> 00:23:07,536 And I do that with another guy named Adam who's just a great guy. 419 00:23:07,536 --> 00:23:11,506 So it's kind of like-- and there it is. 420 00:23:11,506 --> 00:23:12,816 What's next? 421 00:23:12,816 --> 00:23:13,436 I don't know. 422 00:23:13,436 --> 00:23:20,826 I started a company three years ago called SchoolDesk and simply EasyIT that it's kind 423 00:23:20,826 --> 00:23:23,666 of like it does IT outsourcing and things like that. 424 00:23:23,666 --> 00:23:25,446 And so, where do I go? 425 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:26,586 I love training. 426 00:23:26,586 --> 00:23:30,406 I know I'm always going to do it and I just-- 427 00:23:30,846 --> 00:23:35,236 whatever interesting technology is there, that's where I'll go. 428 00:23:36,016 --> 00:23:37,626 But the future is always so fuzzy. 429 00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:41,606 So it's hard for me to even fathom that, but let me go back to a point 430 00:23:41,606 --> 00:23:43,626 that I was going to make just a few minutes ago. 431 00:23:43,746 --> 00:23:46,806 And that is, what can you take away from this? 432 00:23:46,806 --> 00:23:49,216 I've laid my life of technology out before you. 433 00:23:49,616 --> 00:23:50,926 What can you grab from it? 434 00:23:51,376 --> 00:23:55,526 One thing that I've seen is that when you are in a position, 435 00:23:55,696 --> 00:24:00,126 there is no replacing just a genuine joy, enthusiasm, 436 00:24:00,186 --> 00:24:03,976 passion for what you're doing and it's contagious. 437 00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:08,656 And people will realize, wow, you're really here for something more than just a paycheck. 438 00:24:08,656 --> 00:24:12,576 I mean, now, if someone were to go come here and be like, you know, 439 00:24:12,756 --> 00:24:17,526 down to this old Jeremy doing tech support and say, Jeremy would you do this for free? 440 00:24:18,006 --> 00:24:18,926 I would laugh. 441 00:24:18,926 --> 00:24:19,726 I would say no. 442 00:24:19,726 --> 00:24:20,846 What are you thinking? 443 00:24:20,846 --> 00:24:21,646 You're crazy. 444 00:24:21,646 --> 00:24:22,896 Absolutely no. 445 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,126 Why would I do that? 446 00:24:24,266 --> 00:24:26,926 Because back then, it was just the paycheck. 447 00:24:26,926 --> 00:24:30,046 I was going and [inaudible] doing tech support and I don't really care so much. 448 00:24:30,046 --> 00:24:32,626 I just had to show up at this time and left at this time. 449 00:24:33,046 --> 00:24:36,256 But now if somebody ask me, they would say, would you do this for me? 450 00:24:36,256 --> 00:24:39,906 I mean, it's a loaded question but kind of, I do it right now. 451 00:24:39,906 --> 00:24:42,896 I mean, I come home, there's weekends where I'm like, you know what? 452 00:24:43,066 --> 00:24:45,476 I just want to reVLAN my house. 453 00:24:45,476 --> 00:24:49,166 So I want to move my IT room over there because that'd be cool. 454 00:24:49,316 --> 00:24:55,426 You know, it's like this-- I want to setup a new little NAS drive and put all my stuff in there 455 00:24:55,426 --> 00:24:58,766 and replicate that to-- I mean, it's just, it's really interesting. 456 00:24:58,766 --> 00:24:59,746 It's intriguing to me. 457 00:24:59,746 --> 00:25:02,906 And so, when you have that interest and when you're really excited about it, 458 00:25:02,906 --> 00:25:06,206 you'll be in a meeting and, you know, they'll be like, well, you know, 459 00:25:06,206 --> 00:25:10,086 what do you think about that-- I mean even if you're not in a technology related job, you can, 460 00:25:10,266 --> 00:25:13,506 you know, come to the management and you'll be like, hey, I've got some ideas for the website. 461 00:25:13,506 --> 00:25:17,676 I think, you know, da, da, da, da or you know, how you go routing-- 462 00:25:17,676 --> 00:25:19,956 maybe we could setup like a redundant internet connection. 463 00:25:19,956 --> 00:25:20,806 Do you think that'll be good? 464 00:25:20,806 --> 00:25:24,656 I mean, if you're really excited and you're really enthusiastic about it, 465 00:25:24,656 --> 00:25:26,256 and you're-- I mean, they may shoot you down. 466 00:25:26,256 --> 00:25:28,136 They maybe like absolutely not. 467 00:25:28,136 --> 00:25:31,366 That's crazy but they'll at least get the fact that man, 468 00:25:31,366 --> 00:25:33,746 this guy really-- he's really interested in this. 469 00:25:33,746 --> 00:25:34,776 He's really excited about it. 470 00:25:34,776 --> 00:25:39,366 I wonder, you know, he's here for a little bit more and that will carry you a long way. 471 00:25:39,366 --> 00:25:43,296 Now obviously, if it's a genuine, it's like-- well, I was thinking, you know, 472 00:25:43,296 --> 00:25:47,946 trying to get shown up on the radar and things like that, but anyway. 473 00:25:48,186 --> 00:25:49,986 So, second thing. 474 00:25:51,106 --> 00:25:57,846 In my career, I think almost every job I've had has come from some relationship I've had, 475 00:25:57,846 --> 00:26:01,376 you know, maybe the first couple was from a newspaper ad, but after that it was like, 476 00:26:01,376 --> 00:26:04,746 I know a guy who knows a guy, who said, you know, such and such and such. 477 00:26:04,746 --> 00:26:09,596 So, never undervalue relationships and the doors that they can open. 478 00:26:09,596 --> 00:26:12,846 I mean it's not like you're in relationships to open doors, but wow, you know, 479 00:26:12,846 --> 00:26:16,696 as you gain relationships in your career with coworkers, 480 00:26:16,696 --> 00:26:18,116 with management, with things like that. 481 00:26:18,116 --> 00:26:22,726 I mean, a lot of times you will see, you know, a manager leaves and goes to another company, 482 00:26:22,726 --> 00:26:25,206 and he's like "Hey, you know, come over, you know, 483 00:26:25,206 --> 00:26:27,576 this is great, and those doors are now open." 484 00:26:27,576 --> 00:26:29,586 So, huge thing there. 485 00:26:29,586 --> 00:26:34,686 Finally, I have seen a lot of doors open for people through internships. 486 00:26:34,736 --> 00:26:37,856 So where they come to a company and they're like, you know what? 487 00:26:37,896 --> 00:26:42,276 I don't have anything going on right now, but I tell you what, I will absolutely come here, 488 00:26:42,276 --> 00:26:45,806 you know, maybe it's after hours, maybe it's from one to four on Tuesdays, Thursdays, 489 00:26:45,806 --> 00:26:48,616 maybe when it's whenever, and I just want to work for free, you know. 490 00:26:48,616 --> 00:26:50,486 I will recable something. 491 00:26:50,746 --> 00:26:55,176 I'll go install some equipment, you know, I'll do some grant work, whatever. 492 00:26:55,446 --> 00:26:58,096 I just want to gain some experience and gain a reference, 493 00:26:58,096 --> 00:26:59,516 you know, and if you do a really good job. 494 00:26:59,516 --> 00:27:02,466 If you actually show up when you say you're going to show up and doing a great job, I mean, 495 00:27:02,466 --> 00:27:07,426 you walk away, I would say, at least with a name and number to where you go to another place. 496 00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:08,816 And they're like, oh yeah, that guy is awesome. 497 00:27:08,816 --> 00:27:11,066 You'd be crazy, I would say at best. 498 00:27:11,066 --> 00:27:13,676 I've seen so many times where somebody interns at a company. 499 00:27:13,676 --> 00:27:17,556 They're like, hey, I'm just here to volunteer and I'll just help out in the evenings 500 00:27:17,556 --> 00:27:18,756 and weekends, and stuff like that. 501 00:27:19,106 --> 00:27:22,386 And before long, that company is like wow, that person has become 502 00:27:22,386 --> 00:27:24,606 so valuable, like we can't lose them. 503 00:27:24,606 --> 00:27:29,156 We've got to hire them and again doors open that were not previously-- 504 00:27:29,156 --> 00:27:32,526 I've seen people intern on weekends for a year. 505 00:27:32,986 --> 00:27:35,196 They're like, "They would have their normal job day to day." 506 00:27:35,676 --> 00:27:40,016 I'm telling you one guy in particular and he literally volunteered every weekend 507 00:27:40,016 --> 00:27:41,786 for a year just to come in and do whatever. 508 00:27:41,786 --> 00:27:46,366 He would just, you know, recable some stuff, reimage some computers, do that kind of thing. 509 00:27:46,716 --> 00:27:48,596 And everybody got to know him so well. 510 00:27:48,596 --> 00:27:51,776 It was like people would think you work there, and you didn't even work there, 511 00:27:51,776 --> 00:27:54,086 but the company was like, "Well, this is a no-brainer." 512 00:27:54,086 --> 00:27:55,606 We are absolutely hiring this guy. 513 00:27:55,606 --> 00:27:59,416 Now the guy is extremely successfully in the technology field. 514 00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:05,916 So, again, just some weird thoughts I'm having based of on where I've come from. 515 00:28:06,426 --> 00:28:12,126 I hope that you can grab something from this and use it to advance your career especially 516 00:28:12,126 --> 00:28:15,556 if you're just getting your foot in the door in the world of technology. 517 00:28:15,976 --> 00:28:16,356 All right. 518 00:28:16,356 --> 00:28:19,446 Well, I hope this has been informative and I'd like to thank you for viewing. 50039

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