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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,719 --> 00:00:03,800 can a weathered piece of metal change the 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,279 history of a continent 3 00:00:06,279 --> 00:00:10,040 than the klaver wow a 4 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,200 direct hit what does a 3000 year 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,880 old relic reveal about a lost 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,240 civilization the discourse of Festos is 7 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:21,800 one of the greatest mysteries of the Bronze Age 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,000 and what secret holds the most 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,439 kissed face of all time was Linon 10 00:00:27,439 --> 00:00:28,880 so well known that you could almost compare them with 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,160 this kind, as if 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,759 they had lived. 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Fascinating mysterious 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,760 objects long hidden in museums, 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,120 laboratories and 16 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,960 archives. Now we can use the most modern 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,640 technology to reveal their secrets 18 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:55,879 19 00:00:55,879 --> 00:00:56,930 20 00:00:56,930 --> 00:00:58,320 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,960 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,479 23 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:05,319 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,720 hidden and bizarre 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,720 reveal these are the strangest 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,360 things in the 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,479 world in the state museum of the state of 28 00:01:27,479 --> 00:01:30,759 M in Augusta a small piece of metal is 29 00:01:30,759 --> 00:01:34,000 on display that changed the history of history a 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,439 31 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:39,119 32 00:01:39,479 --> 00:01:42,520 find that is unique in all of America new technology now reveals 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,719 every little detail of the coin from 34 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:51,520 Main it measures just under 2 cm in diameter 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,200 is oxidized and worn and yet 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,520 the so-called Main Penny is one of the 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,840 most famous coins in the 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,880 world because it is neither a penny nor 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,320 does it come from 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,079 Main barely visible traces on its 41 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:10,160 surface reveal who made it 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,480 Viking a Viking artifact in 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,040 North America how did it come about there and what 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,840 does it mean that the find contradicts the 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,640 knowledge of history at the time? 46 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,560 US school children 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,720 were taught that Columbus 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,840 discovered America. How does a 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,519 Viking coin get to Main? Is it real 50 00:02:30,519 --> 00:02:32,800 or just a well-made 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,720 fake? New insights now provide 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,959 the 53 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:44,959 answer. The story begins at 54 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:48,120 Nestcake Point In a remote place on 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,760 the coast of 56 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Main in the summer of 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,000 1957, the amateur archaeologist guy 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,040 mgrin and a friend examined 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,360 an 60 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,879 American 61 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:03,879 native. They discovered 62 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:05,959 numerous finds that people 63 00:03:05,959 --> 00:03:09,040 64 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,920 left behind 1us years ago. Among the tools and 65 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:14,879 bone remains there was also a single 66 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:17,720 eaten 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,230 silver coin, but it didn't fit in 68 00:03:22,230 --> 00:03:23,599 [Music] 69 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:26,599 Image The indigenous peoples of North America 70 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:30,519 did not use coins 1000 years ago 71 00:03:30,519 --> 00:03:32,599 so where did it come from 72 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:35,799 Melgrin showed it to a friend who 73 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:37,439 thought it was an English coin from 74 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:39,280 the Middle Ages perhaps it came to 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,239 New England with the first settlers 76 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:44,239 the coin remains for almost two decades in 77 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:47,040 Melin's 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,400 private possession, it was not added to the museum's collection until 1974. 79 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,159 A local newspaper published 81 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:58,760 a short article about the coin and 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,060 suddenly the strange object was on everyone's lips. 83 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:08,280 84 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 The English nismatist Peter 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Siebi read an article about it and 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,079 realized that it was a very 87 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:17,120 Rare Viking coin from the time of 88 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,720 Olaf the Quiet The coin is 89 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,600 an original The matches are 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,120 undeniable Experts date it to 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,240 the year 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,600 1067 which 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,120 is historically significant Finding a British penny in 94 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,639 such a place would not be 95 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:38,960 surprising but a coin from Olaf 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 would be like that quiet wow suddenly 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,280 we have a Viking artifact in 98 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,600 North America somehow this 99 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,639 tiny piece of Viking history must 100 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,600 have crossed the Atlantic and landed in 1000 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,759 year old remains on the coast of 102 00:04:55,759 --> 00:05:01,560 Men a sensation 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,039 US school children were taught that 104 00:05:05,039 --> 00:05:08,440 Columbus discovered America 105 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,919 the idea that Vikings had been around for 106 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:14,080 500 years Having early contact with the 107 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,240 native Americans was a 108 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,639 hugely 109 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:22,520 bold 110 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 claim, but there is further evidence 111 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,240 that can support this thesis. 112 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:31,479 113 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:34,960 For Scandinavians, the idea 114 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,080 that the Vikings were the first Europeans 115 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,000 to reach North America is not new. The 116 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,560 great Icelandic sagas tell of the 117 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,199 legendary explorer le 118 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:49,039 [ Music] 119 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:51,960 Eriksson le Erikson had heard the story 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,000 of a sailor who 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,080 lost his course in fog and wanted to see 122 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,120 a coast with wooded hills west of Greenland. 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,440 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Spurred on by this, ST Erikson set sail with a 125 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,039 well-equipped ship. 126 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,759 According to the sagas, Erikson reached 127 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:12,360 a land that he 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,039 [Music] 129 00:06:14,039 --> 00:06:16,240 wienlandft Historians who read his 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,080 description of this land and its 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 inhabitants came to the conclusion that 132 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,479 the only place that would fit it would 133 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:24,960 have to be somewhere in North America, most 134 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,560 likely in 135 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,199 Newfoundland 136 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:32,759 if there is any truth to these sagas 137 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:34,680 means that the Vikings lived much 138 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,520 earlier in North America landed more than 139 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,880 anyone else from 140 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Europe. This amazing object is 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,240 actually proof of that. In any case, 142 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,280 it is not the first piece of this kind. In 143 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:57,470 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,280 145 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,680 1898, a rune stone was found in 146 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,319 Kensington, 147 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,960 Minnesota. The runes tell of 148 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,599 Scandinavian explorers in 149 00:07:10,599 --> 00:07:13,720 1362 who encountered hostile inhabitants in Vienna 150 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,199 151 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,560 meet that seems to more or 152 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,479 less coincide with the Icelandic sagas 153 00:07:20,479 --> 00:07:23,879 and there are other 154 00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:26,879 finds in Ontario Canada, a 155 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:29,720 Viking sword, an ax and a shield were found. There are also 156 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,800 a number of 157 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,000 stone inscriptions that were interpreted as Viking runes. 158 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,440 159 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,560 North America seems to be full of evidence 160 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,680 for the Viking theory 161 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,800 to 162 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 be oversaturated the problem is none of these 163 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,280 finds were 164 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,680 real the Kensington rune stone turned out to be a 165 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,280 fake the exte and 166 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,319 signs 167 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:00,039 as well 168 00:08:00,039 --> 00:08:02,120 but why are there so many 169 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Viking fakes the rune stone from 170 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,720 Kensington provides a 171 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 clue the name of its supposed 172 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,960 discoverer was OL ohann no coincidence 173 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,840 this one Objects were all discovered by people of 174 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,080 Scandinavian origin and 175 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,919 they fought in the USA against their 176 00:08:18,919 --> 00:08:21,280 bad 177 00:08:21,380 --> 00:08:26,919 178 00:08:26,919 --> 00:08:30,520 image. Scandinavian people were often mocked and laughed at at the time. 179 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,479 180 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,839 These immigrants wanted 181 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:37,760 to prove that it was not the Genoese 182 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,679 Columbus who had discovered the new world, 183 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,640 but rather the Scandinavian Erikson, or so 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,250 they hoped increase their reputation to 185 00:08:45,250 --> 00:08:47,680 [music] 186 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,200 all of this leads to the 187 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,399 discovery of the coin from Main being viewed with skepticism 188 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:53,760 189 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,320 because its finder melgren also had 190 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Swedish roots, 191 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,240 this strange artifact is just 192 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,000 another 193 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,279 fake and at least the 194 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:14,320 origin of the coin from Norway in the 11th 195 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,399 century is undisputed The coin is genuine, it 196 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:19,399 definitely comes from King Olaf the 197 00:09:19,399 --> 00:09:22,560 Quiet but the big question is whether it 198 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:25,240 really has an archaic kont 199 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,120 or, in other words, 200 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,880 buried it himself. 201 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Melgren himself, of Swedish 202 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,440 descent, had both a motif 203 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,000 and the opportunity to place the coin 204 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,279 for someone like that Vertigo, 205 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:45,360 Melgren needs the right coin, which was 206 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,040 not a problem at the end of the 1950s. In 207 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,760 1879, more than 208 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,600 2,000 such coins were found in Norway. 209 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,079 Obtaining one would not have been very 210 00:09:57,079 --> 00:09:58,120 difficult. 211 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,640 Melgren could have 212 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,399 laid out one of these coins. The 213 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:06,279 latest research believes there is an 214 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:10,279 answer to this question 215 00:10:11,079 --> 00:10:13,720 The Swedish nomismatist Sven 216 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,440 gülbeck took on the herculean task of 217 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,640 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,120 219 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,519 tracking down every single coin find by Olaf the quiet gülbeck locates around 2300 220 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:27,720 coins and checks whether any 221 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 of them could have ended up in Mel - 222 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,880 an enormous hard work that lasts more than 10 223 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,600 years After 224 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,279 thorough investigation 225 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:40,519 he came to the conclusion that none of the coins 226 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:42,000 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,200 are missing, in addition, all of these coins 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,959 are in good condition, unlike 229 00:10:47,959 --> 00:10:50,360 the Main 230 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Penny, the Main coin is heavily 231 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,600 oxidized and this is difficult to 232 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,360 counterfeit, it is a process that 233 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,440 takes centuries 234 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 The Main State Museum carries out a 235 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 chemical analysis of the various 236 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:06,839 metal layers and comes to the 237 00:11:06,839 --> 00:11:10,800 conclusion that the object 238 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,880 is genuine. The analysis showed that the coin 239 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,639 was surrounded by water and sat 240 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:19,399 in barely moving water for a long time, which in 241 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:21,560 turn supports the theory that it was for a very 242 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:24,399 long time 243 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:27,000 was buried there is no doubt that the 244 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,000 main penny is real 245 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,079 melgrin did not bury M's coin 246 00:11:33,079 --> 00:11:36,000 but how did it end up 247 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,320 in the hands of the natives Taus years before 248 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,279 1960 D years after mwin 249 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:50,360 found the main penny the 250 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,200 Norwegian archaeologist anestine instort investigated 251 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,959 with Her husband found a site in Omedos in 252 00:11:57,959 --> 00:12:00,320 Newfoundland. Locals described it as an old 253 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Indian settlement, but it turned out to be 254 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,760 something 255 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,440 else. They found remains of 256 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,519 peat buildings, a large hole and a 257 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:18,199 blacksmith shop, and remnants of a 258 00:12:18,199 --> 00:12:19,959 Viking boathouse, which was 259 00:12:19,959 --> 00:12:22,600 definitive proof that the Vikings 260 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,880 were the first Europeans to come to America 261 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,480 The Icelandic sagas are so 262 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,240 the Vikings actually reached America 263 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,240 500 years before Columbus. 264 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,959 The news is a 265 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:43,360 sensation but it does not explain why 266 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,399 the coin was found almost 12 km further south 267 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:47,880 268 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,040 because there is no evidence 269 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,839 that the Vikings came as far south 270 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:57,839 as So the coin came to 271 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:00,839 M 272 00:13:00,970 --> 00:13:05,029 [Music] 273 00:13:07,199 --> 00:13:09,560 renewed professional excavations in NK 274 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,760 point did not produce any further Nordic 275 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,839 artifacts Zage. What was 276 00:13:14,839 --> 00:13:17,519 found, however, were stone tools and stone 277 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:19,839 raw material from Labrador hundreds of 278 00:13:19,839 --> 00:13:22,000 kilometers further 279 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,600 north, so there is evidence that 280 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 trade was carried out at that time D goods 281 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,760 and 282 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,959 The coin may have been 283 00:13:33,959 --> 00:13:36,279 slowly passed from hand to hand further south along with other trade goods, 284 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:38,160 285 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,680 perhaps it 286 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,000 took centuries to bring it south from its 287 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 place of origin in Labrador or even 288 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,199 Newfoundland, 289 00:13:47,199 --> 00:13:49,399 although the coin 290 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:51,680 has no value to the indigenous peoples So 291 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,639 one of its characteristics 292 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:56,279 may explain why and how it 293 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:59,120 was transported south because when 294 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Melgren finds it it has a 295 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:08,360 hole in it and has been perforated which 296 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,199 could be an indication that it 297 00:14:10,199 --> 00:14:12,880 was used for decorative purposes, 298 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,720 perhaps it was worn around the neck or 299 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,759 wrist or served as an 300 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:19,480 ornament for another object, we do 301 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 n't know, the important thing is that it 302 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,720 was not used as a coin but 303 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,880 as a 304 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,800 prestige object, which is why it was 305 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,680 kept. 306 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Locals probably transported the 307 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,120 coin from Newfoundland to Main, 308 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 but 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,320 this remarkable object was made on the 310 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,720 other On the side of the Atlantic, like the 311 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,800 finds in L omedos, the coin proves that 312 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,399 Columbus was not the first European in 313 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:51,720 America. 314 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:57,320 The Vikings beat him by 500 315 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,000 years. 316 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,639 An unusually engraved clay disk 317 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,160 in a museum on Crete has been 318 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,519 puzzling experts for more than 100 years 319 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:11,079 Your text 320 00:15:11,079 --> 00:15:14,240 is highly significant, the 3,000-year-old 321 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,040 message of a lost 322 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,680 civilization, others doubt its 323 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,320 authenticity, we examine it using modern 324 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,560 imaging technology. 325 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,639 The discourse from Festos is about 2 cm 326 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,880 thick, measures 16 cm in diameter and is made 327 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,880 of fired 328 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,600 clay, both sides are covered with 329 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,079 inscriptions made using a technique 330 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:45,480 that was far ahead of its time a 331 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,759 unique 332 00:15:47,759 --> 00:15:50,360 object it is the only known 333 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,079 object of its kind on it there are 242 334 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:56,759 strange symbols heads with 335 00:15:56,759 --> 00:15:59,759 mohawk hair twisted hen birds 336 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,959 fish and many other forms of 337 00:16:02,959 --> 00:16:05,000 discourse from Festos is one of the biggest 338 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,319 mysteries at the moment and we still can't decipher it to 339 00:16:07,319 --> 00:16:09,720 this day, 340 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:13,000 but now after more than 341 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,240 a century, the latest 342 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,519 research results could provide a solution: 343 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:21,639 what do these bizarre 344 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:24,040 symbols mean, what function did the 345 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,519 disc have and is it even 346 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:30,519 real? 347 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,920 the mystery of the Festos disc 348 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,519 begins on the Greek island of 349 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:44,680 Crete. lived here According to legend, one of the 350 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,240 legendary people of Minoa, their ruler 351 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,839 King Minos had 352 00:16:50,839 --> 00:16:52,680 a labyrinth built under his palace 353 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 by holding a fearsome 354 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,480 creature captive, the Minot. 355 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,079 According to legend, the Minotaur was a 356 00:17:03,079 --> 00:17:05,240 terrible hybrid creature half human and 357 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,799 half bull who were offered human sacrifices, 358 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:12,199 the Minotaur and the Minoa 359 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:13,959 have a permanent place in 360 00:17:13,959 --> 00:17:15,720 Greek 361 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,959 mythology. Many people thought the stories 362 00:17:17,959 --> 00:17:21,079 of the Minoa were just an invention, but in 363 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:23,959 1900 the British archaeologist 364 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:27,400 Arthur eV made a groundbreaking move on the north coast of Crete. 365 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,400 366 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,320 He came across the ruins of a 4,000-year- 367 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,760 old Minoan 368 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,360 palace an archaeological 369 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,799 sensation the first proof that the 370 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,600 Mino really 371 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,840 existed this also changed the 372 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,679 understanding of the Mediterranean cultures and 373 00:17:48,679 --> 00:17:50,520 their 374 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,559 abilities the palace of Knossos has 375 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:55,799 amazing parallels to the old 376 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:57,400 legends 377 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,400 when arur eV began excavating in 378 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Knossos he noticed many bull 379 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,960 symbols It became clear to him that 380 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,520 this place has a connection to the 381 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Minoan legends. 382 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,880 This previously little-known ancient 383 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,200 culture was highly developed, as was its time. 384 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,880 It reached its zenith when most 385 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,480 cultures in Europe achieved little more 386 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,360 than wooden houses and 387 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,760 stone circles, the founders of European 388 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,559 civilization, but the Mino were 389 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:36,559 there before them Knossus was probably the 390 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:39,240 first city in Europe the first example 391 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,880 of urban life with a 392 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,400 pioneering role in many 393 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,400 respects but there are even more finds In 394 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,360 1908 the Italian archaeologist 395 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,400 Luigi Pernier uncovered a second Minoan 396 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,320 palace in the south of the island it is called 397 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,840 Festos 398 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,480 one In the evening, Pernier's foreman comes 399 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,760 across a small clay disk in the ruins. 400 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,480 The strange symbols on 401 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,520 its surface are 402 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,159 unlike anything Pernier has ever seen. 403 00:19:11,159 --> 00:19:15,060 The find raises many questions 404 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:18,140 [music] 405 00:19:18,159 --> 00:19:20,720 Normally, such 406 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,400 writing tablets were made from moist clay 407 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,480 when they were still soft 408 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,200 write on it and 409 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,240 let it dry in the sun 410 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:34,080 this discor was different it was 411 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,640 fired in a fire and not sun 412 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,159 dried it is the only oven 413 00:19:41,159 --> 00:19:43,520 fired Minoan clay tablet that has 414 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,360 ever been found but even more 415 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,000 remarkable are the symbols on the 416 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,200 disc most of the writings of this 417 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,880 time were carved in fiefs but the 418 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,240 symbols on the discos are 419 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,960 stamped that the symbols 420 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,559 were applied with a stamp was a 421 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:03,200 unique 422 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,600 discovery. Some archaeologists consider the 423 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,320 discourse to be the oldest written 424 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,240 story and the first evidence of a 425 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,640 type of 426 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,320 printing press in all of antiquity. 427 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,200 There is nothing 428 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,400 comparable when you look at the work 429 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,559 in it, the fact that 430 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:23,120 it was fired all suggests that 431 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,880 it was a special object that was 432 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,159 treated with great care, 433 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:30,159 434 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,520 which could justify such an effort, 435 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,720 the answer 436 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,400 perhaps lies in the cryptic 437 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,720 symbols that have been trying for more than 100 years 438 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,640 People find out what the 439 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,559 symbols 440 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:50,400 mean, is it a language, a type of 441 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,440 symbology or something 442 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,080 else? Researchers in all disciplines 443 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,520 of its cryptanalyst, linguist, 444 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,960 antiquity, scientist, archaeologist 445 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,000 or 446 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,159 historian. Almost everyone who is 447 00:21:03,159 --> 00:21:05,320 familiar with antiquity or sign systems has 448 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,799 tried to decipher the discourse. 449 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,000 There have been many interpretations 450 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400 For example, it could be an ancient game, a 451 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,799 type of bemen, others suspected an 452 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:19,919 astronomical or astrological 453 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:22,600 background, but a theory receives 454 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,480 more attention from experts than any 455 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,159 other. It is probably 456 00:21:28,159 --> 00:21:30,440 a type of language, perhaps a locally 457 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,120 limited one, perhaps also one that was 458 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,200 more widespread. These signs 459 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,200 should be read or presented to an audience, 460 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,120 however, 461 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,400 the experts don't even agree on where to 462 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,440 start reading. 463 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,200 The archaeologists at the time 464 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,200 initially assumed that the characters on 465 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,120 the disk could be read from the inside out 466 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:55,440 in a spiral 467 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,200 pattern, but upon closer inspection they looked at 468 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,279 them Symbols are noticeable that they become 469 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:02,480 increasingly dense the closer they get to the 470 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,480 center of the disc. 471 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,799 Today it is therefore 472 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,760 likely that you have to start reading at the outer edge, 473 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,840 474 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,960 but what do the 475 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,679 characters mean? The 242 stamp impressions on the 476 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:21,600 disc consist of 45 477 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080 different 478 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,720 symbols, most of them Alphabets have 479 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,919 far fewer symbols. 480 00:22:28,919 --> 00:22:32,610 Experts therefore consider an alphabet to be 481 00:22:32,610 --> 00:22:34,039 [music] 482 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:36,760 unlikely. On the other hand, there are too 483 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,640 few symbols and too many 484 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,039 repetitions to assume that pictograms 485 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:42,919 486 00:22:42,919 --> 00:22:45,159 can represent entire words, as with 487 00:22:45,159 --> 00:22:47,360 Egyptian hieroglyphs or the 488 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,279 Babylonian 489 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:51,400 cuneiform. Instead, 490 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,080 experts suspect that the festos symbols are a type 491 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,919 Syllables are in which symbols 492 00:22:56,919 --> 00:23:01,679 represent syllables, such as do re mi 493 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:03,840 syllabic would fit well with the number 494 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,520 of symbols on the disk and 495 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,840 496 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,600 it was also 497 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,120 used in another Minoan text, but even if the experts 498 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,960 agree that it 499 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,240 is a syllabary, we know Still do 500 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,559 n't know what it 501 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:22,080 means as far as the translation is concerned, so 502 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 you would need a kind of rosette stone for it. 503 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,200 The Rosetta Stone is an 504 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,600 inscribed stele that was discovered in Egypt 505 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,279 by Napoleon's soldiers in 1799. 506 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:36,000 Thanks to the trilingual inscription on 507 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,080 the rosette stone, we were able to decipher hieroglyphs for the first time. 508 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,880 It contains 509 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,200 the same text once in hieroglyphics, 510 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,120 once in demotic and once in 511 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,520 ancient Greek script, which made it 512 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,320 a kind of 513 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,960 translation key, but there is 514 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,000 no such 515 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,159 translation aid for Festos' discourse and despite many 516 00:23:57,159 --> 00:23:59,640 attempts, no one has succeeded in translating it to date. After 517 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,559 years of 518 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,240 research, the British linguist Gareth believes 519 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,559 520 00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:08,720 the puzzle to have now been solved at least 521 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,960 in part 522 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,200 ens went looking for a 523 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,400 parallel text a text with a 524 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,360 similar function or similar 525 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,360 typography this is a common method 526 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,480 that one looks for comparable examples 527 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,559 in other places 528 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:31,480 compares the sequence of characters with 529 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,480 symbols on other Minoan 530 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,039 religious 531 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,480 Artifacts he discovers recurring 532 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,039 patterns on the disk that are 533 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:43,559 repeated three times like a kind of ref. They resemble 534 00:24:43,559 --> 00:24:46,159 an old Creetian symbol that 535 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:49,440 means mother goddess. His theory is 536 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,159 that the disk is dedicated to that very mother goddess. 537 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:55,080 This coincides with what 538 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,440 we know so far. The mother goddess has 539 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320 an important one Place in Minoan 540 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,480 society a prayer in their honor 541 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,159 seems 542 00:25:03,159 --> 00:25:05,360 logical we see repetitions 543 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,320 on the disk similar to 544 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,440 prayers and the fact that the 545 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,399 disk was burned testifies that it 546 00:25:11,399 --> 00:25:13,799 was an object of great value a 547 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:16,000 religious origin would 548 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 make sense the problem is However, the fact that 549 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760 no remotely 550 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960 comparable object has 551 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,000 been found yet, the strange symbols, the 552 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,399 use of stamps years before 553 00:25:28,399 --> 00:25:30,880 their actual discovery and the 554 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,760 fact that this is the only fired 555 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,960 tray of the Mino all of this justifies 556 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 the special status of the disc, which 557 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,760 is correspondingly 558 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,200 controversial Artifact among 559 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,440 archaeologists the uniqueness of this 560 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,200 object raises alarm bells, as is often the case in such 561 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,520 cases. 562 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,799 One would actually expect 563 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:58,960 that there are other such objects. 564 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,640 Such stamps were certainly 565 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,159 used more often. Furthermore, clay is a very 566 00:26:03,159 --> 00:26:06,279 long-lasting material, so there should 567 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:09,200 568 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000 be several such discs today Determining the age is 569 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,159 difficult. The age of the disc has never been 570 00:26:15,159 --> 00:26:18,000 directly determined, but it was 571 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,159 572 00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:24,039 found next to a tray from the period 1700 to 1600 BC. 573 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,360 Archaeologists therefore believe that it 574 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,159 is the same age, but the unusual 575 00:26:29,159 --> 00:26:31,360 circumstances of its discovery cause 576 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,880 further 577 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,000 uncertainty found by a 578 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,640 professional archaeologist a 579 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,440 foreman discovered it on the 580 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,440 excavation site of Festos while he 581 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,960 was doing his rounds is the disc so 582 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,760 real or a 583 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,559 fake, one person in particular is 584 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:53,399 suspected of having a motive for it the 585 00:26:53,399 --> 00:26:56,600 excavation manager of Festos Luigi 586 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,320 pernier 587 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,960 the discovery that Arthur Evans in 588 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,880 knossus was 589 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,279 sensational - he had discovered the presumed 590 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:09,919 throne of King Minos. Festos, 591 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:13,000 on the other hand, was a rather modest palace 592 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,279 that, until the disc was found, 593 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,559 did not provide any real sensation for the media 594 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,080 or would have helped the name Luigi perer gain fame. 595 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,480 596 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,960 The discovery of the disc changes all of that 597 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Pernier and Festos are suddenly 598 00:27:33,159 --> 00:27:36,039 known to everyone in the professional world, but there are 599 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:39,720 other suspicions against 600 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,159 Pernier. What is particularly worrying is that 601 00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:44,440 Pernier was also responsible for the collection of antiquities in the 602 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240 National Archaeological Museum of 603 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Florence. 604 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,960 In one of the collections there was a 605 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,919 remarkable Etruscan lead plate, 606 00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:56,519 also known as a disk 607 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,519 vonano is R has a series of 608 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:01,799 engraved symbols arranged in a spiral 609 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:04,159 and overall looks surprisingly similar to the Diskos of 610 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:07,880 Festos 611 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,679 perer has a motive and ways 612 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:13,679 and means to create such a forgery 613 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,200 case 614 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,360 solved it's not that easy 615 00:28:20,410 --> 00:28:22,919 [music] 616 00:28:22,919 --> 00:28:25,559 decades after the discovery of the 617 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,440 Disk turns up another relic In 618 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,279 1934 an ax was found and this 619 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,559 bronze ax actually had almost the 620 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:37,679 same symbols as the one on the 621 00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:41,720 disk it is known as the ax of 622 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,159 arkalocheri in the middle are 623 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:46,919 624 00:28:46,919 --> 00:28:49,480 engraved various unusual symbols some are the symbols on 625 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,159 the discors of Festos surprisingly 626 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:56,000 similar a plant a teform a 627 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,240 y-shaped stick and above all a man 628 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,960 with a 629 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,399 spiky hairstyle that suggests that the 630 00:29:03,399 --> 00:29:05,440 disc is real that the 631 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,360 symbols used on it had 632 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,240 a certain distribution in this region at a certain time 633 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,519 634 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,279 the question is how could pernier 635 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,480 if he had the discors Forged, he had 636 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,919 designed symbols that had 637 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:24,679 not yet been officially described. That could 638 00:29:24,679 --> 00:29:27,480 speak for the authenticity of the disc. On 639 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200 the other hand, he was someone who was 640 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,200 very familiar with critical archeology 641 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,519 and 642 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,519 had perhaps discovered some of the symbols on objects 643 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:37,880 that were never cataloged. Both 644 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,200 are 645 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,240 possible So is the disk a fake 646 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,320 or not? I think it is real. The 647 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,039 fact that the ax was only discovered after the 648 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,880 discourse. The great 649 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,600 similarity of the symbols and also that 650 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,679 they were not known before are 651 00:29:52,679 --> 00:29:56,320 indicators that speak for its authenticity. We 652 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,000 are not 653 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,919 sure about the discourse Festos is one of 654 00:30:02,919 --> 00:30:05,399 those rare mysterious objects 655 00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:06,679 where it is difficult to form a 656 00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:09,960 final judgment. 657 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,799 It often seems to me that 658 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,600 we call things fake just because 659 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,320 we simply don't know what they 660 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,799 661 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,679 were used for. I see no clear 662 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:26,240 evidence of a 663 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,760 fake and I I would like 664 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,240 it to be real. 665 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,120 The controversy about the authenticity of 666 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,159 the disc has been going on for over 100 years 667 00:30:37,159 --> 00:30:39,519 and it doesn't look like it will come to an 668 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,440 end any time soon. 669 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:49,000 [Music] 670 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,799 From Paris there was a death mask 671 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,399 of a drowned girl. It is said that 672 00:30:56,399 --> 00:30:59,440 no face is more common was kissed when 673 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,519 this poet, poets, dancers, all 674 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:04,919 sorts of artists 675 00:31:04,919 --> 00:31:06,559 referred to her and received 676 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,320 suggestions from her, 677 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,639 the natural reality 678 00:31:11,639 --> 00:31:14,960 came from themselves, it is said that she saved 679 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120 more than 2 million 680 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,679 human lives, digital image technology 681 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,880 awakens the mysterious mask 682 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240 683 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,799 Every special life that is immortalized in plaster, 684 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,720 every detail, the serene expression, 685 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,000 the gently closed eyes and 686 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,200 the enigmatic 687 00:31:37,399 --> 00:31:39,880 smile, the mask can be found again and again 688 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600 in exhibitions and 689 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,960 private collections all over the 690 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,600 world but the woman behind it remains 691 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,279 a mystery who is she, how did she die 692 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,159 and why it is so 693 00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:59,159 famous 694 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,039 its macabre story begins in Paris at the 695 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,799 end of the 19th century the 696 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:09,039 city is a paradise for tourists you 697 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,840 can climb the 422 steps of the towers of 698 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,279 notredam 699 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,840 through the galleries of the 700 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,519 luvrelanieren or admire the impressive 701 00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:20,440 triumphal arch 702 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,880 but perhaps the biggest 703 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 attraction is the city's morgue 704 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,679 705 00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:30,360 The bodies couldn't 706 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,440 be identified well, so there 707 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,120 were long queues as 708 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,360 people enjoyed it, 709 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,880 so to speak, or at least thought it was a 710 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,279 thrill to go there and 711 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,000 supposedly help out on the 712 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,080 street. There were real 713 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000 street vendors who sold things 714 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,720 like that that is still the case today 715 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,559 and the corpses were actually 716 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,440 already in a bad condition and 717 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,360 during this exhibition, especially in the 718 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,440 summer, the condition of the 719 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,240 decomposition naturally deteriorated even further, 720 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,960 but that did 721 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,919 n't 722 00:32:58,919 --> 00:33:01,639 stop people, actually this is the place 723 00:33:01,639 --> 00:33:04,000 where the corpses are 724 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,639 supposed to be identified but it has long since become 725 00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:09,440 a morbid pleasure for many. These 726 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,880 are show events 727 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,919 in the middle of 728 00:33:12,919 --> 00:33:15,559 Paris. Admission is free because you 729 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,159 want everyone to come to identify the dead. 730 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:20,720 Naked dead people 731 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,000 lying in front of you. You have to be 732 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960 social Imagine the dynamics of such a situation, 733 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,080 734 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,039 people's horror in this macabre spirit of the times, 735 00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:38,039 one day this face appears at the 736 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,320 end of the 19th century. Details are 737 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,200 not exactly known, so 738 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,880 this incon de la the drowned woman 739 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880 from the SEN was supposed to have been taken out of the river 740 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Nobody knew the woman 741 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,679 and nobody wanted to bury her. 742 00:33:50,679 --> 00:33:53,000 She was then taken to what would today be an 743 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,960 institute for forensic medicine. 744 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,639 Her UT suggests that she is not older 745 00:33:58,639 --> 00:34:01,960 than 16. Her haircut shows that 746 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,919 she is of simple 747 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:06,000 origin, although she 748 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,639 is laid out in public. Nobody knows her 749 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,079 identified but someone takes care of 750 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,359 it, someone found this 751 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:16,879 peaceful facial expression so 752 00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:18,639 interesting that the person decided to 753 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,280 make a death mask out of it, which of course made it possible to 754 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,000 755 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,599 take a mold of the whole thing many, many times. There 756 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,159 757 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,199 were a lot of impressions of it before the invention of photography 758 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,960 It wasn't unusual for people to 759 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,199 take plaster casts in morgues. If 760 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,159 a face falls apart too much, it can no 761 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,239 longer be 762 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,879 identified. But why is 763 00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:45,560 this death mask so 764 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,879 765 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:51,960 famous? Making plaster masks from corpses 766 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,159 may seem inappropriate from today's perspective, 767 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,079 but it wasn't 768 00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:58,280 always 769 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,119 that way 770 00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,680 This practice was 771 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,079 known in ancient Rome 2000 years ago. The Greek historian 772 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,560 Polibios wrote a text in the second century 773 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,520 BC about the 774 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,119 Imagines majorum wax masks that the 775 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,200 Romans created of the dead. 776 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,240 These masks were worn in 777 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,520 funeral processions in order to keep the 778 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,880 memory alive, 779 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,079 not just of the 780 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:31,240 SN to the whole 781 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640 family somehow exciting but also 782 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,760 a bit 783 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,480 scary the young woman is never 784 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480 identified no relatives come forward 785 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,760 but her face becomes 786 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160 immortal it is not the first 787 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,160 death mask to cause a stir 788 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,800 the 789 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,440 others of famous men Oliver 790 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,720 crwell who in the 17th century 791 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,520 British monarchy overthrew Ludwig V 792 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,480 bethofen one of the most important 793 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,119 composers in 794 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,720 music history Sir Isaac Newton the 795 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:14,480 discoverer of gravity outstanding 796 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,520 historical figures 797 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,319 all the most famous death mask of 798 00:36:23,319 --> 00:36:27,200 all is almost 3500 years old and belongs to 799 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,520 the ancient Egyptian Pharaoh does anch 800 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,079 Amun the ancient Egyptians believed that the 801 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,400 bar was a Part of the soul lives on after death 802 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,400 so that the body can be identified in the afterlife 803 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,400 and reunited with the soul, 804 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,880 so it had to 805 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,280 806 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,440 have something visually clearchun death mask is a really 807 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,980 good example of this 808 00:36:56,980 --> 00:37:00,010 [music] 809 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,359 but this young girl is not a 810 00:37:02,359 --> 00:37:04,920 queen, she is not an artist either 811 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,000 and has not made any groundbreaking inventions, 812 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,119 the opposite of this is 813 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,319 completely unknown, why is her 814 00:37:14,319 --> 00:37:17,599 death mask so 815 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,119 famous? perhaps it was simply in the 816 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,640 right place at the right time. During the 817 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,800 Victorian era, 818 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,640 people in Europe were very concerned with death, 819 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,079 symbols of earthly transience 820 00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:34,359 called mementoori The living 821 00:37:34,359 --> 00:37:37,200 remembered their own 822 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,599 mortality. The masks were a completely 823 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,319 normal way of dealing with death. 824 00:37:42,319 --> 00:37:43,560 People had them 825 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,160 826 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,240 hanging in their houses as a matter of course to remember the gift of 827 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,680 life and its brevity, 828 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,839 just as we today keep the photograph 829 00:37:54,839 --> 00:37:57,520 of a deceased person 830 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160 At that time you had the death mask of your 831 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,000 deceased child at home, the 832 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 death mask of the drowned girl 833 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480 found enormous resonance in this culture of death, 834 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,800 it brought it to some fame as lonu 835 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,079 de laass, the unknown person from the SC. At the 836 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:14,280 837 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,119 beginning of the 20th century, 838 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,920 this mask of the linconu de laass was 839 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,880 relative It was widespread, it was 840 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,280 hung on the wall, it was just a 841 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,520 death mask, and people who perceived themselves as 842 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,800 sensitive or interested in art 843 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,319 844 00:38:29,319 --> 00:38:31,560 simply hung it there and enjoyed the fact 845 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,599 that they 846 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,359 could see this face there, thousands of 847 00:38:36,359 --> 00:38:37,960 copies of it Death masks are 848 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,280 made her enigmatic face 849 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,640 inspires the imagination of 850 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,240 writers and poets the 851 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,400 French philosopher Alber kamü 852 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,560 compares her smile with that of the Mona 853 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,359 Lisa linconud de laassen was so well known 854 00:38:52,359 --> 00:38:53,599 that she could almost be compared to a kind of 855 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,760 itgir, as if she 856 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,280 had lived Poets, poets, dancers, 857 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,440 all sorts of 858 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,240 artists referred to her 859 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,599 and 860 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:06,680 received inspiration from her, the natural 861 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,760 reality came from themselves, 862 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,400 but how does a totesgir become one of the 863 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,620 most kissed faces in the 864 00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:20,640 [music] 865 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,400 world? The answer to that is provided by one 866 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,440 Technology that saves lives 867 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,440 868 00:39:28,839 --> 00:39:31,040 When the body of the unknown person 869 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,040 is pulled out, resuscitation is 870 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,440 still in its infancy and its 871 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,000 methods seem rather 872 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,520 bizarre. They tried many different 873 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,480 stimulating techniques to bring people 874 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,800 back to life. 875 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,480 One was 876 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,760 to whip them with stinging leaves to get the 877 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,560 blood out Getting the body moving again 878 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,000 and starting the engine again 879 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,680 In the 18th century, 880 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,560 people began to test whether they 881 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,119 could bring people back to life 882 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,079 if they weren't completely dead. That sounds 883 00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:04,839 crazier than it's about to 884 00:40:04,839 --> 00:40:06,560 sound right now, for example, if 885 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,000 you have a hot one Ashes were brought to people, 886 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,119 they were hung over a horse 887 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:12,040 so that they could be moved, 888 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,160 they were whipped with nettles. 889 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,280 As I said, that sounds 890 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,359 very strange, but actually they were 891 00:40:18,359 --> 00:40:19,839 good methods because these strong 892 00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:21,599 sensory stimuli can really 893 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,520 lead to you again wakes up and is then 894 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,839 not buried as an apparent dead person or as an 895 00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,240 apparent dead person. Another 896 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,680 method is really strange. A 897 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,119 method that sounds a bit strange 898 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,200 but is actually very good 899 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,920 was blowing tobacco into the 900 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920 rectum of a person who one 901 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,839 had suspected might still be there 902 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,200 could live or that they 903 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,880 904 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,359 could be awakened again. They made a strong 905 00:40:46,359 --> 00:40:48,200 tobacco mixture and inserted it into the 906 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,680 other end, hoping that this would 907 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,280 stimulate the organism and 908 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,319 bring the body back to life. 909 00:40:55,319 --> 00:40:58,319 910 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,319 It may not be surprising that none of 911 00:41:01,319 --> 00:41:04,160 these methods lead to success 912 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,520 What does this face have to do with it 913 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680 914 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,960 [music]? It wasn't until 915 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,960 the 1950s that 916 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,680 an Austrian anesthesiologist achieved the 917 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,400 first successful 918 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,119 resuscitation, the modern 919 00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:25,760 resuscitative first aid that we 920 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,760 know Stam by Peter Safar, who had 921 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,440 a death and said to himself, things 922 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,480 can't go on like this He 923 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,319 actually developed the ideas 924 00:41:33,319 --> 00:41:35,040 that we know today: move the head back to clear 925 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,680 the respiratory tract, get the 926 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200 heart going again by 927 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,079 pressing on the chest, mouth-to-mouth 928 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,960 resuscitation and the like, so that's a 929 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,319 relatively new, modern procedure 930 00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:49,880 resuscitative first aid sa comes to 931 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,800 the conclusion that many lives 932 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,240 can be saved if everyone masters this technique, 933 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,560 but for this he needs a 934 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,480 training model that is as realistic as possible, which does 935 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,310 not exist at the time 936 00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:08,440 [music] In 937 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,960 938 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,040 1959, dr Safar looks for a 939 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,040 Norwegian toy manufacturer he knows 940 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,079 asmund lerdal lerdal has a lot of experience 941 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,960 with a new material called PVC and 942 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,599 believes that this could be the solution. 943 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,760 The two develop a doll that imitates the 944 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,559 basic function of the lungs 945 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,240 [music] 946 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,079 in the end Leal has a finished 947 00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,480 doll but no face for it yet but 948 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,200 where the hell is he supposed to 949 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,359 get it there leerdal wants a 950 00:42:42,359 --> 00:42:45,760 passive, non-intimidating 951 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,119 face one day he visits his 952 00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:49,640 in-laws and sees the 953 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000 unknown person from the SC hanging on the wall 954 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,160 and he thinks perfect, that's 955 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,720 956 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,280 perfect and that's how it happens in 957 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,520 many countries with these 958 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,680 training dummies This 959 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,079 face can be seen and has achieved worldwide fame, so to speak. 960 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,000 961 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,680 Finally, the unknown person from 962 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,960 the SC is christened rassi. 963 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680 964 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,599 Around 500 million people around the world 965 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,319 use her as a training dummy and have 966 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,079 since then helped save up to two and a half million 967 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:27,359 lives 968 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:30,359 The unknown woman who died 150 years ago in the 969 00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:33,319 S is probably the most kissed 970 00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:36,119 face in 971 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,640 history, but a mystery surrounds her 972 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,119 to 973 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,839 this day, her famous face is almost too 974 00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:52,240 flawless, too beautiful to be true. With 975 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,640 water corpses you can of course see 976 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,520 typical signs, e.g that the 977 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,960 bacteria migrate into the veins, that a 978 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,880 network of veins breaks through or that the 979 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,319 skin peels off, but of 980 00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:04,200 course you wouldn't see any of this in reality on the 981 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,079 death mask, so the 982 00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,400 reasoning is that you can't see 983 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,520 the signs of death in water on the death mask, 984 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,760 of course Also not 985 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,520 entirely true because you 986 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,280 can't catch them with the mask anyway, so that's 987 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,240 no indication that the 988 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,200 linkconyde laassen was perhaps still 989 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,640 alive when the death mask 990 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,920 991 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,000 was made, but there is still an 992 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,280 inconsistency 993 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,359 when the eyes are closed, 994 00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:31,280 the lens underneath forms a slight 995 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,119 curvature under the songs but some 996 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:36,240 complain that this curvature is not completely 997 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,400 round, it seems as if her 998 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,760 eyes were moving when the plaster cast 999 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,720 was made, so is this really the face of 1000 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,000 a dead woman or does it perhaps belong to 1001 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,160 a lively young woman? 1002 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,680 This question has to be left unanswered 1003 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,960 remain 64699

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