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I had an idea of what I thought evil was.
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I always thought evil was, like, people
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that committed crimes against children,
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rapists, and things like that.
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People think evil has a face, but it
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doesn't. It comes in all shapes, forms,
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sizes, colors, genders. And
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you you can't tell. It's walking amongst
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us. Be
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mindful ofWho you let into your
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space?Who you let into your life?
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Sometimes there are blatant signs, and
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sometimes people put their mask on
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and masquerade, and you don't know until
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they take it off.
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Karim was masterful at keeping secrets
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and keeping his lies in order.
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What he did to me and other women
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was just reckless and diabolical.
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I did not see him coming. He's not gonna
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understand the carnage he left behind.
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He's a sociopath. He just didn't
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care as long as he got what he wanted.
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And that's evil.
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Me and Kareem met up at a local hospital
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we were working at. We were both security
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officers. I was responsible for training
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him. My first impression of Kareem
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was he was friendly.
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Charming. He He really talked a lot.
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To me, our conversations were harmless. I
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mean, it's two co-workers talking to each
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other about life and about my
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children and them talking about school.
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I've been debating going to nursing
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school, actually. Really?Yeah, I mean, I
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think you should do what you would be
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really good at. At
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the time, I had an ex-boyfriend that was
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stalking me. My ex would sometimes come
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to the hospital. where we worked.
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Me and Kareem were standing outside, and
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my ex drove right up to where we were
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standing. Terita! What are you
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doing here?You won't answer the phone.
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'Cause I don't want to talk to you. And
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Kareem's like, Get away from here. She
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doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Now
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you're trespassing. I think it's best
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you go. This ain't none of your business.
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And he basically told him, You can go
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voluntarily or involuntarily. You can
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either leave now, or you can leave when
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the police show up. Zarita.
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Oh, he left. I didn't feel like I needed
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protecting, but the fact that he went the
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extra mile to do it, I thought it was
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sweet, and I thought it came from a
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genuine place. Thanks. I appreciate it.
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Bro, we got each other's backs.
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Now, in hindsight, I feel like that
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He had an agenda. I think that was part
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of his plan, too, to make me feel safe.
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But he's a wolf in sheep's clothing
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because behind that facade, he had
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ill intentions. He was approaching me
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like predator to prey.
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I didn't know where things were going,
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but we just knew we were attracted to
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each other. It was, like, an intense
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attraction. The
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first time we had sex, he was like, It's
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your choice. We can use a condom or not.
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Your protection?
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No, I didn't bring any. I
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have some. He was more than willing to
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not wear a condom. He just told me it
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didn't matter to him. I mean, I'm fine if
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we don't use one, but if you want to, we
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can. And I told him, No, you need to put
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on a condom. I'd rather be safe. Okay.
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Knowing what I know now, it makes me
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angry. He knew what he
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was doing was wrong. He knew he had HIV
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before he met me.
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Right from the beginning, you were
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willing to expose me to that. Him
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saying a condom or no condom, if
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something did happen, he could say, Oh,
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you made the choice to not use the
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condom. I gave you a choice. You saying
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it's optional. He didn't even make an
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effort to protect me from him. He was
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gambling with my health. He was gambling
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with my life. He didn't care. He
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liked to take risks. I don't think he
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thought about his health or mine.
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He just wanted to have sex with me.
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We started spending more time together,
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and I told him, I don't want anything
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just casual. We should be in a
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relationship. He
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said, I don't use condoms when I'm in
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relationships. So he's like, If we're
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gonna be in a relationship, I don't want
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to use condoms. I said, well, we need
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to get tested, and until we're tested,
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we're gonna use condoms. Kareem agreed to
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go get himself tested, and, um, we
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waited to sleep together again until
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everybody's results were wrecked.
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Hey, you. Guess
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what?The STD tests
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are basic. Chlamydia, gonorrhea,
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trichomoniasis, then you have to ask and
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give them permissionfor the HIV
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test. So I got tested for all that. I got
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my results back. Karim was supposed to go
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get the same test I was getting. When my
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results came back, everything was fine.
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What about yours?Oh, oh.
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Yeah, right.
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I showed him my papers. But
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when he took his test, he only showed me
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the STD papers. He didn't show me a test
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for HIV. What about the HIV
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test?Why is that not on here?
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I asked him, where's the printout for
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your HIV test?And he said, oh, they
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said I didn't need to have a printout.
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They would contact me if anything was
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wrong, which sounded
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familiar to me. I felt like I was pretty
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street smart and I could recognize when
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somebody was trying to BS me. But you
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know, some doctors like, oh, we don't
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call you. Everything's fine. No news is
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good news, which is what I figured
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happened with him. I never got a phone
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call, so I guess it's all good.
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But I wholeheartedly believe that he did
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not get tested for HIV 'cause he knew the
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answer already.
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That was the first of many lies he
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told. That started off like a domino
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effect. He told this one lie, and now he
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has to keep lying. So you want to skip
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dinner and go straight to the bed, or...
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Okay. Settle down. He didn't
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care about my health. He didn't care
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about... My children, he couldn't have,
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'cause he absolutely knew that he could
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pass the virus to someone.
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But I trusted him. I got on birth control
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pills, and we never used condoms again. I
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thought that I was being responsible.
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Every time he slept with me without a
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condom was a chance that he was giving me
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HIV.
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One of my co-workers seemed to have an
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attitude about me and him getting closer.
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I just thought she was, like, a woman
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scorned, or she was jealous.
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Aww. Look at you two. Aren't y'all so
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cute?One
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morning, she came through the door to the
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security office. She said, Hey, Corinne,
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where's your wife?How's she doing?How's
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the missus these days?Why
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don't you just shut up?He
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raised his voice and was like, Why are
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you always messing with us?Why don't you
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just mind your business and stop and stop
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acting like a a bitch?What did you just
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call me?You heard me. It
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alarmed me at that time because I had
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never seen him act that way. I had never
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heard him be disrespectful to a woman.
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I'm thinking this is just one of her
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shenanigans that she's been pulling. But
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I still asked him, like, Why would she
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say that particular thing?
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What is she talking about?
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It's nothing. It's nothing. Didn't sound
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like nothing. He told me that he was with
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his ex-fiancee for five years, and
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we applied for a marriage license, but we
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didn't get married. She called off the
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engagement. Excuse me?
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I wanted to tell you I just didn't know
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how you reacted. I felt like it was
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believable because I've been to his
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house. I didn't see anything
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female. In his house, it looked
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like a bachelorette, and the fact that we
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were together so much, and I felt like if
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he had a wife, she would be calling,
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like, Why are you not coming home and
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stuff?At this point, you really think I'm
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married?I just really felt like
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that coworker was really just messing
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with us, and the explanation he gave to
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me made sense. Come on. We got to
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clock in for work. Now I know that
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he was lying, andThat was
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only one small life. There was much
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bigger ones waiting for me.
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My mother knew I was dating Karim because
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my son told her. So the natural next
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step was to introduce him to my mom.
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She really liked him. They got
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close to a point where they had each
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other's numbers. And then the
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first time I brought up not having met
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his family was Thanksgiving.
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Happy Thanksgiving. I'm out of here. Take
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care of you, too. Thanksgiving came, and
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I was like, you know, what are you doing?
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Can I meet your mom?Can I come over?The
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kids and I don't have plans, so I
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was thinking
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maybe you would like us to join you?
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He said no. I don't think that's a good
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idea. So, you've met my mom, you've met
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my kids. I haven't met anyone from your
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family. You haven't even brought up the
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subject. Why am I bringing it up in your
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night?Why not?
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And his explanation was, They
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still talk to my ex-fiancee. They're
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still attached to her. Even though we
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broke up, she's still in contact with
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them. And my mom has made the statement,
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Don't bring anybody around me unless
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you're engaged. Look, trust me, you don't
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want to meet my mom right now. It won't
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go well. The explanation you gave
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me seemed reasonable just based on the
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time frame we had been together. I mean,
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we hadn't even been together a whole
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year. She had been in his life for five
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years, so I could understand that. I
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don't want to think that you're trying to
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hide me. Come on. You know what it's
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not like that. You got plenty of time to
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meet them. But...
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Christmas 2013, it was another
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opportunity for the families to get
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together. It was the same thing, you
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know, nobody else from the outside. It's
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just family. So at that point, I just
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stopped asking. When I look
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back on it and I know what was really
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behind the scenes, it was masterful.
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I now know Kareem's mother knew that he
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had HIV.
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And I believe Karim didn't want me to
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interact with any of his family so he
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could keep his secrets.
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Karim had an insatiable appetite for sex.
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He wanted it all the time,
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every day, multiple times a day.
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One time, we were in bed, about to go to
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sleep, and we were just talking like we
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always did.
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What?I want to leave my
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mark. He said to me, I
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just want to leave an impression on you.
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I want to leave an impression on your
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life, even if we break up. I want to make
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sure you never forget me. I just melted
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like butter. I felt like I found the
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person that I could be with
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long-term. He
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made me really happy. I really loved him.
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When I think back, those words haunt me
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because he he did leave an impression on
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my life. He'll forever have a place
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in my life that I can't get rid of.
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What did he mean by that comment?
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I went over it over and over in my mind
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what he actually meant by that statement.
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I'm gonna leave an imprint on your life,
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even if we don't work out.
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He did exactly what he said he was gonna
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do. It could have been the first time or
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the tenth time, but if you keep sleeping
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with somebody with HIV, eventually you're
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gonna get it.
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I was sleeping with the enemy. I was
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suspicious of everybody else but him.
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And And the chaos was laying right next
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to me.
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Last time I felt normal was April or
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May 2014.
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The next couple of days after that, I
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thought I had the flu, 'cause I had a
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high fever, body aches, you know,
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congestion. I just felt horrible.
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And that was-- I felt like that for about
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a week and a half. two weeks, maybe
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longer than the flu should last. That's
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when I started going to the doctor.
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Kareem would come with me to the doctor's
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visits. Actually, he invited himself. He
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was like, If you don't mind, I'd like to
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come too, 'cause I I want to know what
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you know. He was acting like he was
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concerned, but I think he was trying
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to keep a watchful eye. Same symptoms, huh
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It took them so long to find out what was
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wrong with me. Even the doctor was
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scratching his head like, I don't i don't
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know what's going on. Well,
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this this doesn't look like the flu.
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Your labs don't don't look good. I don't
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know what's happening. Well, what do you
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think it is?The blood work is
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concerning.
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And the doctor was like, I'm gonna send
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you to a nutritionist.
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And Karim was like, see, I've been
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telling you, you need to get on your
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nutrition and stuff. And he was like,
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doc, I tried to tell her she needs to eat
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healthier. All you need to do is exercise
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and eat right. He was
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playing the role that he thought he
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should. I want you to talk to a
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specialist. In the meantime, I'll run
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some more tests and we'll see what we
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find. In retrospect, I think he was just
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keeping a watchful eye to see exactly
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what was going on with my health or if
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they said anything about HIV or anything.
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He was going to the doctor's appointments
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to see what his next move should be. He
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probably knew he was making me sick. He
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was, like, hoping that I got better. I
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want you to get better. I hope we find
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out soon what's causing this.
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Karim watched me get sick and never said
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a thing.
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I was progressively getting worse. I
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started getting this condition, like
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these blotches on my skin
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and it would just burn.
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Then I started losing my hair, losing
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more weight. I wore a beanie all the
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time. At one point I was so sick I
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couldn't bathe myself. I don't know
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what's wrong with me. I had got down to
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135 and I looked like death. It was
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scary because I didn't know what was
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going on. I went to the
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doctor and he said your labs look really
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bad. I don't like the looks of this.
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These are our signs of HIV.
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That was the first time HIV was ever
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mentioned, but I didn't think that's what
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it was, because we both got tested,
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and it was negative. That's
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impossible. He asked me if he could
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run an HIV test, and I told him, Sure.
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You're wasting your time. Go ahead. I
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still want to make sure. Okay, I don't...
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think that's gonna change anything,
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but... Kareem was with me, and he was
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like, Don't cry. Everything's gonna be
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okay. He sat there with a straight face,
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and, Babe, it's not HIV. It's gotta be
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something else. It can't be that. Why
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would it be HIV?We got tested. And I was
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like, I know. Like, I said, Well, let him
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run the test. I mean, we don't have
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anything to hide.
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He didn't even flinch. I'm sure when they
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figure it out... He'll call us and
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they'll let us know. He didn't look
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worried. He didn't get
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fidgety. He was just sitting there with
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his arm around me, and he said, Babe,
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everything's gonna be okay. We're gonna
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find out what's going on. I was
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near death, and he knew that. And at
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any point in time, he could have said,
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Uh, maybe it's
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this. So can you check for this
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rather than watch me deteriorate?Let'sgo.
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It was cruel for him to watch me suffer.
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He'd rather me get sick and die than
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tell me the truth.
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When I went home after that doctor's
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visit, I was pretty confident that I did
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not have HIV. We went back to
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my house and we started researching
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What type of cancers we thought it might
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be.
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Maybe it's lung cancer or leukemia or
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something. But we were kind of going back
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and forth about the possibilities.
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And then he just started like, I don't
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know what it is. He was like, I hope the
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doctor can find out what's going on.
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Well, we know it's not HIV. He
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always acted like he was concerned and
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his actions matched his words. So I had
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no reason to think he was lying about
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anything. Maybe this one.
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Yeah, maybe.
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Now I know he knew or had an idea
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what was going on. Lymphoma?
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No, no, no, no, no, noHe probably still
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thought that he could get away with it or
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finesse me into believing whatever lie he
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was gonna tell me at that point.
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We're gonna get through it, okay?
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Kareem claimed to love me. Which I
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think is BS because you can't watch
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somebody suffer and claim that you love
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them. I was dying and he
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knew something was very wrong and he
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still said nothing. He watched me
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suffer.
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The next Thursday, I was in the ICU.
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I had been running a fever for three days
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and I kept throwing up. I felt like I
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was dying. So I went to the hospital,
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and they told me everything that was
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wrong with me. What is it?
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The doctors came in, and they said, Mrs.
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Anderson, I know your doctor ran an HIV
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test, and he said, We also ran
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an HIV test, and you-- which I already
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told you that you have HIV.
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And I was like, No. And I'm
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like, Do you have the right patient?Must
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made a mistake. Unfortunately, yes,
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ma'am. We ran several tests. And then
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I found out other illnesses I had in the
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ICU. I had nephritis, which
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is inflammation of the liver. I
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had hepatitis, which is inflammation of
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my kidneys. I had a UTI. I had
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severe anemia. My hair was gone, my
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nails were gone. I had lost 65
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pounds. My blood sugars were out
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of whack. I had pancreatitis.
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and gallstones. Kamaran was responsible
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for everything but my diabetes.
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Everything was our direct chain reaction
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of the HIV. They told me a
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month or less, and I would've been gone.
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I would've died. We should discuss
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treatment options. Not right now. They
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said, Do you have any questions?I was
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like, No, get out of my room. Just get
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out. Then I called Kamaran. I was like,
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You need to get here, and you need to get
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here right now. He said, What's wrong?I'm
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like,Just get up here right now. I'm
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in the ICU. I knew he had it, 'cause he
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was the only one that I slept with, so
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there was no question that he gave it to
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me. Just hurry
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up. I just was anxious for him to get
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there, 'cause I wanted answers. I
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never thought he gave it to me on
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purpose. I thought he cheated on me. But
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it it made me want to kill him, like,
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literally kill him.
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When he walked in, I said, Who did you
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cheat on me with?And he was like,
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What?I said, Kareem, I have HIV. Who did
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you cheat on me with?Who is
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she?What are you talking about?
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What?HIV?I was like, It's not cancer.
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It's HIV. So who did you cheat on me with?
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And he's like, I've never cheated. And
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I was like, Stop lying. Stop lying to
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me. Look, we're past that now. I'm in the
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ICU, and I'm basically dying from
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HIV, so-- and you gave it to me, so where
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did you get it from?What did you do to me?
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You son of a bitch.
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If you cheated on me or you lied about
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your test, he was like, No, I took that
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test. It was negative. So you cheated on
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me. I didn't sleep with anyone.
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I said, This is not making sense. It's
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either one or the other. Which one is it?
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You say you didn't lie about your test,
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so you had to cheat. That was the first
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time that he did not have all theanswers.
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Oh, my God. I don't know what happened.
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He was leaning over like this and stuff,
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trying to conjure up some tears,
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reacting the way he thought he should
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react by, you know, kneeling over and
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making the faces like he was crying, but
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there was, like, one tear.
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Now I think about it as comical that he
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was trying so hard to get those tears
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out. And they weren't there.
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That's why I think he's a sociopath.
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He has no conscience or humanity. I think
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that's all something he--
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emotions he learned to fake.
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I was like, Something about this is not
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right. I don't know what it is, but he's
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lying to me, and I've never thought he
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lied to me. Just get
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out. Get the hell out!
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I don't want to look at you. I was like,
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I don't want to hear any more lies. Just
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get out of my room. Felt like I went into
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a grieving period, and he was just
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making it worse, so I didn't want to talk
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to him. I blocked his number. When he
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would come to my house, I didn't answer
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the door. I just kept telling him I
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didn't want to talk to him. But I
523
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honestly thought that he cheated on me.
524
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:08,084
It never crossed my mind that he would
525
00:25:08,084 --> 00:25:09,204
lie about that test.
526
00:25:20,484 --> 00:25:23,404
I was depressed. I was heartbroken. I
527
00:25:23,404 --> 00:25:24,564
didn't know if I was going to live or
528
00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:27,444
die. And I was just like, this is
529
00:25:27,524 --> 00:25:29,204
a bad dream. Like, this can't be
530
00:25:29,204 --> 00:25:29,684
happening.
531
00:25:32,244 --> 00:25:34,844
How did my life get to this point?A month
532
00:25:34,844 --> 00:25:37,404
ago, I was-- I was fine. I was happy. How
533
00:25:37,404 --> 00:25:39,644
did I get here?I'm going to get AIDS and
534
00:25:39,644 --> 00:25:40,644
die a horrible death.
535
00:25:43,844 --> 00:25:45,844
I blamed myself, like, I should have saw
536
00:25:45,844 --> 00:25:47,564
something. I should have saw some red
537
00:25:47,564 --> 00:25:49,844
flags. Where were they?How did I miss
538
00:25:49,844 --> 00:25:52,644
them?I couldn't fight through this. I
539
00:25:52,644 --> 00:25:54,724
fought through a lot, but this broke me.
540
00:25:58,004 --> 00:26:00,004
It broke me into little pieces.
541
00:26:01,164 --> 00:26:04,084
And so I took an overdose
542
00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,364
of insulin. I
543
00:26:06,644 --> 00:26:08,524
passed out, and the next thing I remember
544
00:26:08,524 --> 00:26:10,564
is my mom was like, Get up, get up.
545
00:26:11,924 --> 00:26:13,364
She said she knocked on the door because
546
00:26:13,364 --> 00:26:15,244
she saw my my car outside, but I didn't
547
00:26:15,244 --> 00:26:16,804
answer, so she used her key to come in,
548
00:26:16,804 --> 00:26:18,804
and she found me on the floor.
549
00:26:20,644 --> 00:26:22,284
So that's how she wound up calling the
550
00:26:22,284 --> 00:26:22,724
ambulance.
551
00:26:28,244 --> 00:26:30,764
Where am I?Back at the
552
00:26:30,804 --> 00:26:33,604
hospital. I was like, Mom, why
553
00:26:33,604 --> 00:26:36,484
did you save me?I was trying to die.
554
00:26:36,484 --> 00:26:38,884
Why did you save me?Why don't you just
555
00:26:38,884 --> 00:26:41,644
leave me there?I don't want to be here
556
00:26:41,644 --> 00:26:44,324
anymore. Don't say that.
557
00:26:45,684 --> 00:26:48,164
My dad told me, God has a purpose for
558
00:26:48,164 --> 00:26:50,364
you. You're here for a reason, and you
559
00:26:50,364 --> 00:26:53,284
have a purpose that you have not
560
00:26:53,284 --> 00:26:55,204
yet found yet, but he's preparing you for
561
00:26:55,204 --> 00:26:58,164
something. And I started thinking. I was
562
00:26:58,164 --> 00:27:00,924
like, What purpose could I possibly have?
563
00:27:00,924 --> 00:27:03,284
I know you don't think you can get
564
00:27:03,284 --> 00:27:04,964
through this, but but you will.
565
00:27:12,564 --> 00:27:14,804
Um, that's me and baby Caden.
566
00:27:15,524 --> 00:27:17,044
He was a day old.
567
00:27:19,364 --> 00:27:21,964
He looked like a little-- a little peanut
568
00:27:21,964 --> 00:27:23,604
wrapped in a blanket, so I started
569
00:27:23,604 --> 00:27:26,524
calling him Peanut. When I first found
570
00:27:26,524 --> 00:27:28,644
out I was pregnant, I didn't know how to
571
00:27:28,644 --> 00:27:31,604
feel about the baby. First person
572
00:27:31,604 --> 00:27:34,364
I called was Kareem, and he said, You
573
00:27:34,364 --> 00:27:35,524
have to get rid of it. I don't want to
574
00:27:35,524 --> 00:27:37,284
have a baby like this. I was like, I
575
00:27:37,284 --> 00:27:40,084
don't want to have HIV like this, but...
576
00:27:41,924 --> 00:27:44,804
Here we are. I I let Kareem
577
00:27:44,804 --> 00:27:46,724
know whether he accepted it or not, I was
578
00:27:46,724 --> 00:27:48,564
gonna go through with the pregnancy
579
00:27:48,564 --> 00:27:51,524
anyway. But the doctor told me
580
00:27:51,524 --> 00:27:54,084
if I kept taking my HIV medication, there
581
00:27:54,084 --> 00:27:56,324
was only a 5% chance that I would pass
582
00:27:56,404 --> 00:27:58,324
HIV to my unborn child.
583
00:28:00,084 --> 00:28:02,084
They tested him right after birth, and it
584
00:28:02,084 --> 00:28:02,764
was negative.
585
00:28:05,364 --> 00:28:07,244
I felt like it was a miracle, and I
586
00:28:07,444 --> 00:28:09,924
didn't know why I wasGiven that
587
00:28:09,924 --> 00:28:12,684
miracle, but I was just thankful. I
588
00:28:12,804 --> 00:28:14,324
had been waiting and waiting and waiting
589
00:28:14,324 --> 00:28:16,324
for somebody to wheel me to go to see
590
00:28:16,444 --> 00:28:19,364
him. This was a happy day for
591
00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,364
me. You know, a lot of sadness. He was
592
00:28:21,604 --> 00:28:24,484
some happiness. It took a lot from
593
00:28:24,484 --> 00:28:27,204
both of us for him to get here. That's
594
00:28:27,204 --> 00:28:29,285
the day I said, you know, no, I'm going
595
00:28:29,285 --> 00:28:31,045
to live. I chose life that day.
596
00:28:32,645 --> 00:28:34,605
I can't do it. I can't kill myself.
597
00:28:44,725 --> 00:28:46,565
I immediately called his mother and told
598
00:28:46,565 --> 00:28:47,285
her everything.
599
00:28:50,645 --> 00:28:52,325
I wanted her to know what was going on.
600
00:28:52,645 --> 00:28:55,605
Hi, my name is Sarita. I'm I'm
601
00:28:55,845 --> 00:28:58,165
sure you have no idea who I am. I told
602
00:28:58,165 --> 00:29:00,725
her my name and I said I've been dating
603
00:29:00,725 --> 00:29:03,365
Karim. And I have HIV.
604
00:29:03,925 --> 00:29:06,565
And she said, What?And she started
605
00:29:06,565 --> 00:29:08,525
crying. And she said, Have you talked to
606
00:29:08,525 --> 00:29:11,445
his wife?He's
607
00:29:11,445 --> 00:29:14,325
married?That was a surprise to me.
608
00:29:16,965 --> 00:29:19,245
After I found out he was married, I went
609
00:29:19,245 --> 00:29:20,725
on social media and found her.
610
00:29:22,725 --> 00:29:24,365
And I sent her a message and told her
611
00:29:24,365 --> 00:29:25,525
everything that was going on.
612
00:29:27,405 --> 00:29:29,365
A week after I started communicating with
613
00:29:29,365 --> 00:29:31,445
Kareem's wife, I found out that she was
614
00:29:31,445 --> 00:29:32,645
HIV positive too.
615
00:29:35,765 --> 00:29:38,325
She told me that he had given it to her,
616
00:29:38,765 --> 00:29:40,725
and he had never taken any medication.
617
00:29:43,925 --> 00:29:46,725
That was like an aha moment. This is my
618
00:29:46,725 --> 00:29:48,645
purpose. This is why I was infected.
619
00:29:50,085 --> 00:29:52,085
The purpose was to stop him from
620
00:29:52,405 --> 00:29:53,525
infecting other women.
621
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:01,685
But it was too late. I
622
00:30:01,685 --> 00:30:03,645
didn't realize how many other women he
623
00:30:03,645 --> 00:30:04,365
had infected.
624
00:30:13,335 --> 00:30:15,455
This is my social media post when I
625
00:30:15,455 --> 00:30:18,295
announced to everyone I was
626
00:30:18,295 --> 00:30:20,455
HIV positive and who gave it to me.
627
00:30:22,055 --> 00:30:24,015
If I die, this this is going to be my
628
00:30:24,015 --> 00:30:26,095
dying declaration. I have to tell people
629
00:30:26,095 --> 00:30:28,925
what happened. After all he's done to
630
00:30:28,925 --> 00:30:31,085
turn my life upside down, I'm here to
631
00:30:31,085 --> 00:30:33,365
testify that evil can look like anything.
632
00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:36,525
Karim is going around like he's OK. He's
633
00:30:36,525 --> 00:30:38,805
an attractive man and very charming. He
634
00:30:38,805 --> 00:30:40,725
is not letting people know his current
635
00:30:40,725 --> 00:30:43,685
situation. I have no reason to lie. I
636
00:30:43,685 --> 00:30:45,845
was faithful. He's the only one I've been
637
00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:48,805
with for two years. I'm saying
638
00:30:48,805 --> 00:30:50,725
all this just to warn people to be
639
00:30:50,725 --> 00:30:53,125
careful who you let in your life. Really
640
00:30:53,125 --> 00:30:55,885
get to know someone before taking risk. I
641
00:30:55,885 --> 00:30:57,565
thought I was in a happy relationship,
642
00:30:57,845 --> 00:30:59,925
and four words turned that all around.
643
00:31:00,325 --> 00:31:02,485
You are HIV positive.
644
00:31:04,885 --> 00:31:07,005
When I wrote this, I went to sleep, and
645
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:09,445
when I woke up, I had a million, like,
646
00:31:09,925 --> 00:31:11,685
notifications from people.
647
00:31:13,125 --> 00:31:14,805
Immediately, my phone went ding, ding,
648
00:31:14,805 --> 00:31:16,525
ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, going off.
649
00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:20,605
I was finding out that he was in these
650
00:31:20,605 --> 00:31:21,365
singles groups.
651
00:31:23,685 --> 00:31:25,405
Some of his friends would say he's in
652
00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:27,525
these dating groups, and, you know,
653
00:31:28,405 --> 00:31:30,765
he's dating someone down the way, and
654
00:31:30,765 --> 00:31:31,765
he's not being honest.
655
00:31:34,165 --> 00:31:35,845
And other women saying, you know, Is this
656
00:31:35,845 --> 00:31:37,965
true?Was I slept with him a couple months
657
00:31:37,965 --> 00:31:38,885
ago or whatever?
658
00:31:40,805 --> 00:31:43,405
I opened up Pandora's box, and I started
659
00:31:43,405 --> 00:31:44,565
to build a timeline.
660
00:31:46,165 --> 00:31:48,965
People were like, Wait, when did you get
661
00:31:48,965 --> 00:31:51,045
diagnosed?Because I was with him,
662
00:31:51,765 --> 00:31:54,325
andA lot of the time, it was before me.
663
00:31:56,005 --> 00:31:57,965
His wife told me she tested positive in
664
00:31:57,965 --> 00:31:58,805
2009.
665
00:32:03,965 --> 00:32:06,725
And then I got an anonymous message from
666
00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:08,965
someone from the county clinic.
667
00:32:18,755 --> 00:32:21,475
They said he had tested positive in 2010,
668
00:32:21,955 --> 00:32:23,875
and he never came back for any medicine.
669
00:32:24,885 --> 00:32:27,645
I immediately blew my top. By the
670
00:32:27,645 --> 00:32:29,885
time I was involved in a relationship
671
00:32:29,885 --> 00:32:31,365
with Kareem, he had already been giving
672
00:32:31,365 --> 00:32:32,965
women HIV for five years.
673
00:32:34,965 --> 00:32:37,325
I didn't want to believe it, but it made
674
00:32:37,325 --> 00:32:40,085
too much sense. This is why he didn't
675
00:32:40,165 --> 00:32:41,445
act surprised.
676
00:32:43,445 --> 00:32:45,765
I was devastated all over again, 'cause
677
00:32:45,765 --> 00:32:48,325
now I'm like, Maybe he
678
00:32:48,325 --> 00:32:50,485
didn't cheat on me, but the alternative
679
00:32:50,485 --> 00:32:53,285
is much worse. It's much worse.
680
00:32:53,285 --> 00:32:54,965
You You tried to kill me.
681
00:32:57,285 --> 00:32:59,445
Kareem knew every time he slept with me
682
00:32:59,445 --> 00:33:01,205
without a condom was a chance that he was
683
00:33:01,205 --> 00:33:02,325
giving me HIV.
684
00:33:05,925 --> 00:33:07,685
I hated his guts.
685
00:33:08,885 --> 00:33:11,605
I wished death on him every day. Every
686
00:33:11,605 --> 00:33:14,405
second of every day, I was thinking, Why
687
00:33:14,405 --> 00:33:17,045
is he still breathing?Why is he still
688
00:33:17,045 --> 00:33:19,525
wacking around?Why is he able to enjoy
689
00:33:19,525 --> 00:33:22,245
himself?Why has anybody killed him?
690
00:33:22,725 --> 00:33:24,205
It made me mad that he was alive.
691
00:33:26,565 --> 00:33:28,005
To the point where it's like, if nobody
692
00:33:28,005 --> 00:33:29,525
else is gonna kill him, I'm gonna do it.
693
00:33:35,205 --> 00:33:37,005
So I would just sit up and think about
694
00:33:37,005 --> 00:33:39,765
ways about forensics and things I've seen
695
00:33:39,765 --> 00:33:42,725
on TV and what is the easiest way
696
00:33:42,725 --> 00:33:44,005
I can get away with it.
697
00:33:51,365 --> 00:33:53,925
But me hating him didn't do
698
00:33:53,925 --> 00:33:55,925
anything to him. It was hurting me,
699
00:33:56,085 --> 00:33:57,925
'cause it was turning me into a person
700
00:33:57,925 --> 00:33:58,805
that I didn't want to be.
701
00:34:01,045 --> 00:34:03,365
So I had a colleague at the hospital we
702
00:34:03,365 --> 00:34:05,605
worked at that was a police officer, and
703
00:34:05,605 --> 00:34:08,045
he told me, It's a crime to intentionally
704
00:34:08,045 --> 00:34:10,405
infect someone with HIV.
705
00:34:13,365 --> 00:34:15,365
When When he gave me that information, it
706
00:34:15,365 --> 00:34:17,845
gave me hope. There's another
707
00:34:17,845 --> 00:34:20,165
outlet than shooting him. There is a way
708
00:34:20,165 --> 00:34:23,125
to get him without getting myself locked
709
00:34:23,245 --> 00:34:23,365
up.
710
00:34:31,045 --> 00:34:32,565
I called the police and told them I
711
00:34:32,565 --> 00:34:34,885
wanted to file a report, and they turned
712
00:34:34,885 --> 00:34:36,845
my case over to the Special Victims Unit.
713
00:34:37,925 --> 00:34:39,845
I gave the police all the information I
714
00:34:39,845 --> 00:34:42,285
had collected. I was on, like, a
715
00:34:42,285 --> 00:34:44,965
crusade to get him. I have
716
00:34:45,365 --> 00:34:48,246
medical records, text messages.
717
00:34:48,966 --> 00:34:50,566
Tell me what you need to put him
718
00:34:51,766 --> 00:34:53,446
away. I was trying to get all the people
719
00:34:53,486 --> 00:34:55,606
I found on board so we could get him
720
00:34:55,606 --> 00:34:58,006
together. I told them I'm not the only
721
00:34:58,006 --> 00:34:59,526
one that he gave it to. There's other
722
00:34:59,526 --> 00:35:02,406
women. I've already found 12. I've been
723
00:35:02,406 --> 00:35:04,726
messaging the other women. The officer
724
00:35:04,726 --> 00:35:06,486
asked, Would they be willing to give me a
725
00:35:06,486 --> 00:35:08,446
statement?Do you think you can get any of
726
00:35:08,446 --> 00:35:10,726
them to come forward?I said everybody
727
00:35:10,726 --> 00:35:13,486
said no. I tried. They They don't
728
00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:15,606
want to talk. Does this mean that you
729
00:35:15,606 --> 00:35:18,166
can't arrest him?Not necessarily.
730
00:35:18,726 --> 00:35:21,566
Right now, it's your word against his. I
731
00:35:21,566 --> 00:35:24,206
often wondered what my purpose was. Why
732
00:35:24,206 --> 00:35:26,966
am I here?I kept asking, Why
733
00:35:26,966 --> 00:35:29,846
me?Why me?Well, my conclusion was that it
734
00:35:29,846 --> 00:35:32,806
had to be me. I had to be broken
735
00:35:32,806 --> 00:35:35,766
to be put back together stronger so I can
736
00:35:36,246 --> 00:35:37,366
bring him to justice.
737
00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:40,566
Nobody else wanted to come forward.
738
00:35:41,046 --> 00:35:43,606
That's why it had to be me. I feel like I
739
00:35:43,606 --> 00:35:46,446
was chosen. Whatever it
740
00:35:46,446 --> 00:35:48,446
takes, he has to be stopped.
741
00:35:53,286 --> 00:35:54,966
I was prepared to be
742
00:35:55,926 --> 00:35:58,646
waiting years, but it was a matter of
743
00:35:58,646 --> 00:36:00,486
months before he was arrested.
744
00:36:07,136 --> 00:36:09,696
This was a good day. This is Garim's
745
00:36:09,696 --> 00:36:10,256
mugshot.
746
00:36:12,686 --> 00:36:15,046
The SP youth detective said we have a
747
00:36:15,046 --> 00:36:16,406
warrant for his arrest and we're going to
748
00:36:16,406 --> 00:36:18,806
be serving it to him in the morning.
749
00:36:19,206 --> 00:36:21,686
So I called Kareem the next morning and I
750
00:36:21,686 --> 00:36:23,286
was like, enjoy your last hours of
751
00:36:23,286 --> 00:36:26,206
freedom. He was like, what
752
00:36:26,206 --> 00:36:27,606
are you talking about now?I was like, the
753
00:36:27,606 --> 00:36:30,566
police are coming for you. And I
754
00:36:30,566 --> 00:36:32,726
wish I could be there. And he was like,
755
00:36:32,726 --> 00:36:35,206
you always talking negative. And I just
756
00:36:35,206 --> 00:36:36,686
hung up on him. That was 8:00. He was
757
00:36:36,686 --> 00:36:37,766
arrested at 9.
758
00:36:40,006 --> 00:36:41,886
I think he was very surprised when he got
759
00:36:41,886 --> 00:36:44,206
arrested. He got arrested at his job
760
00:36:44,246 --> 00:36:46,886
while he was on duty. So that
761
00:36:46,886 --> 00:36:48,966
probably hurt him more than anything for
762
00:36:48,966 --> 00:36:51,926
people to see him being arrested. I
763
00:36:51,926 --> 00:36:54,726
was happy when I saw this. I was
764
00:36:54,726 --> 00:36:56,446
wondering, what is he thinking right now?
765
00:36:56,446 --> 00:36:59,366
And that's what I think of when I
766
00:36:59,366 --> 00:37:01,286
see this, is what is he thinking right
767
00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:04,166
here?There's no smiling or anything
768
00:37:04,166 --> 00:37:07,046
in this picture. That
769
00:37:07,046 --> 00:37:09,926
was his last day as a free man. So that
770
00:37:09,926 --> 00:37:10,726
makes me happy.
771
00:37:12,886 --> 00:37:14,246
Yeah, I like this picture.
772
00:37:39,996 --> 00:37:42,876
The last time I saw Kareem was after he
773
00:37:42,876 --> 00:37:45,116
got sentenced, and I went one time
774
00:37:45,836 --> 00:37:48,646
to the county jail tofinally
775
00:37:48,806 --> 00:37:51,766
get some answers. I
776
00:37:51,766 --> 00:37:54,286
asked him, Why did you do this to me?I
777
00:37:55,286 --> 00:37:58,086
just want to know why. And he
778
00:37:58,086 --> 00:38:00,006
said, Would you have been with me if I
779
00:38:00,006 --> 00:38:02,486
told you?And I said, If
780
00:38:02,886 --> 00:38:05,766
you had no wife, and you had been honest
781
00:38:05,766 --> 00:38:08,166
with me, and you were the person that you
782
00:38:08,446 --> 00:38:11,286
portrayed yourself to be, yes. That
783
00:38:11,286 --> 00:38:13,766
doesn't answer my question. One of my
784
00:38:13,766 --> 00:38:15,606
questions to Kareem was, Why did you try
785
00:38:15,606 --> 00:38:17,926
to kill me?I want to know why you wanted
786
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me dead. Did you intentionally go
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into our relationship knowing that you
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were gonna infect me with HIV and why?
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And he doesn't like that. I never tried
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to kill you. I said,
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Well, I almost died, and you sat there
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and watched. I didn't want you to die.
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No, I didn't. My intention was not to
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kill you. I love you. I was like,
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So... Your intentions were not to kill
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me, but once you saw me getting sick, why
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didn't you say anything?'Cause I didn't
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think I was the one making you sick.
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Nobody else got sick. And I was like,
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this this is a bunch of B.S. Like, I was
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getting madder the more I talked to him.
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He said, Why are you so mad?I didn't
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rape you. He said, You know, you could've
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told me to put on a condom at any time. I
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didn't rape you. I don't know why you get
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so upset anyway. When he said, I didn't
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rape you, I said, Yeah, but you raped my
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life. My world
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is changed. You took my
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choice. You didn't take my body, but you
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took my choice away. I think sometimes he
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did it for fun. It was about power. And
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rape is about power. I got
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to be left.
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I have not seen or spoken to him since
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that day. My son doesn't see him. My son
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doesn't speak to him. There's no
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difference between a rapist and Kareem,
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'cause Kareem doesn't... take
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women's bodies, but he takes their
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choices.
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Karim was definitely a wolf in sheep's
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clothing.
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I was told by the detective that they
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found that his most active year, meaning
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the year that he infected the most women,
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was 2015.
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Who knows how many women he infected or
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how many women died?Or almost
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died and he doesn't care.
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I know of 12 women that he's
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infected. I do believe there's more.
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He's evil. He's diabolical,
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reckless, careless, negligent.
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All those things, all those things rolled
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into one. He has
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no empathy. He can't have any empathy
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'cause he did it over and over. He
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didn't have any cares in the world about
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how it would affect women or their
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families or children or anything like
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that. He didn't take into account any of
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the carnage he would leave behind. He was
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just going to get what he wanted and to
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hell with everybody else.
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But I'm not going to let that define my
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life. I wanted to, like, bust
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up the stigma around HIV
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and what it looks like. It happened
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to me. This is what happened, and I'm
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still here. If you have
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HIV, you can go into an undetectable
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status, which is the goal. It means you
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have so little of the virus in your
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system that it can't be measured by any
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test. And once you're undetectable, you
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can't transfer HIV to anyone.
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So I've been undetectable for years now.
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Through my research, I've found a lot of
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stories like mine and people just.
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Throw those stories to the side 'cause
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they assumed the person was being
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reckless. When it's happening to everyday
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people, hopefully I can inspire
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somebody else to go get tested or
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be more careful in in vetting their
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partner. You can't catch
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everything. You might run across the
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current, but most people
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are not like that.
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