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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,513 --> 00:00:13,639 Um... 2 00:00:15,432 --> 00:00:18,435 I'm making this movie because, uh... 3 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:21,146 Which way you want me to look? 4 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:22,523 - Right here. - Okay. 5 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:25,526 I'm basically making this movie 6 00:00:25,609 --> 00:00:29,279 because I have 25 years 7 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:33,534 of footage and photos of me and Cartoon's... 8 00:00:34,576 --> 00:00:36,495 I guess, uh, journey in life, 9 00:00:36,578 --> 00:00:39,790 and all the movement that we've... 10 00:00:41,291 --> 00:00:42,292 Wait, let me see. 11 00:00:44,086 --> 00:00:46,421 If you ain't got tatted by Cartoon, you ain't got no tat. 12 00:00:46,505 --> 00:00:48,966 If you ain't get shot by Estevan, you got a weak photographer. 13 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:55,305 You can't tell the story of Estevan without telling the story of Cartoon. 14 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:56,890 You know Toons, then you know Estev. 15 00:00:56,974 --> 00:00:58,141 They are LA. 16 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:01,895 Premier representatives of that Los Angeles culture. 17 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:03,605 Like, the pioneers. 18 00:01:03,689 --> 00:01:06,233 Not just pioneers, I mean, I think they're historians. 19 00:01:06,316 --> 00:01:09,027 Storytellers, they're the image-makers. The chroniclers. 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,864 When you say LA tattoo artists, you can't not mention Mister Cartoon. 21 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:17,411 Nobody does art like Cartoon. 22 00:01:17,494 --> 00:01:20,872 When you look at a Mister Cartoon tattoo, you know that's Mister Cartoon. 23 00:01:20,956 --> 00:01:22,416 Everybody knows Mister Cartoon. 24 00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:23,959 The hip-hop tattoo artist. 25 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:27,212 Man, you got tatted by Toons, it's, like, a level of respect. 26 00:01:27,296 --> 00:01:28,171 Cartoon, baby. 27 00:01:28,255 --> 00:01:29,881 -My boy Cartoon. -Cartoon. 28 00:01:29,965 --> 00:01:31,758 The world-famous Cartoon. 29 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:34,261 Everything Cartoon did, Estevan was there. 30 00:01:34,344 --> 00:01:38,265 Estevan brings an authenticity that is matched by none other. 31 00:01:38,473 --> 00:01:40,225 Photographing gang members. 32 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:42,811 Capturing the whole culture and everything, man. 33 00:01:42,894 --> 00:01:47,190 Lowrider culture, tattoo culture, shots of Skid Row. 34 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:49,234 Leaving pieces of history behind. 35 00:01:49,318 --> 00:01:50,986 - These vatos... - They showed 36 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:53,780 that you can do it the right way if you do it the right way. 37 00:01:53,864 --> 00:01:55,574 They take pride in all of that. 38 00:01:55,699 --> 00:01:57,492 They paved the way for a lot of people. 39 00:01:57,576 --> 00:01:58,785 Even if they don't admit it. 40 00:01:58,869 --> 00:02:00,787 We couldn't have done it without these two guys. 41 00:02:00,871 --> 00:02:01,788 It's about courage. 42 00:02:01,872 --> 00:02:04,458 Just be true to who you are, and a lot of people are terrified 43 00:02:04,541 --> 00:02:05,542 of being who they are. 44 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:07,419 That's one of the reasons they're so successful. 45 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:10,922 They mean what they say and they say what they mean. 46 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:14,092 This is our thing, and we wanna bring this out to the world. 47 00:02:14,176 --> 00:02:15,260 LA's globalized. 48 00:02:15,385 --> 00:02:18,263 They've joined forces, and they've been unstoppable ever since. 49 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:34,404 Coming from a Chicano, Mexican family, 50 00:02:34,613 --> 00:02:36,990 believing in God is standard issue. 51 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:39,409 I was formerly raised Catholic. 52 00:02:40,202 --> 00:02:44,331 I was told at a young age that I was gifted, I was blessed, 53 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:45,916 I have a gift from God. 54 00:02:46,083 --> 00:02:49,002 And when you tell a kid that every day 55 00:02:49,086 --> 00:02:51,463 over and over and over, 56 00:02:51,546 --> 00:02:52,964 they start to believe it. 57 00:02:53,799 --> 00:02:56,009 So when my mom would ask me to clean the room, 58 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:57,511 make my bed, I'd be like, 59 00:02:57,803 --> 00:03:01,807 "I've been gifted from God. I'm not gonna make my bed. Come on." 60 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:11,858 For me, work is happiness. Yeah, I love to work. 61 00:03:11,942 --> 00:03:14,403 I love doing photography. I love filming. 62 00:03:14,569 --> 00:03:17,698 You know, when you say "work," that means you do something 63 00:03:17,781 --> 00:03:21,076 and you get paid, so, yeah, that means my bills can get paid, 64 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,328 and I can keep moving forward. 65 00:03:23,412 --> 00:03:25,539 - Daddy! - I'm not the best dad 66 00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:26,957 or the best husband, 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,167 but I think I'm a good worker, 68 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:30,836 a good photographer, 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,004 and a pretty good friend. 70 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:37,801 Nobody could say I'd done them wrong. If they do, they're a lying motherfucker. 71 00:03:40,679 --> 00:03:41,930 If you focus, 72 00:03:42,013 --> 00:03:44,266 you could see shit off of your talent. 73 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:45,642 You could travel the world. 74 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:48,854 You could go to Europe and shit. Like, we've been all around the world. 75 00:03:49,646 --> 00:03:51,815 You can buy a home for your family. 76 00:04:01,032 --> 00:04:02,951 Art was like I had to scratch an itch. 77 00:04:03,034 --> 00:04:04,202 I would see shit, 78 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:06,621 I would see a movie poster, 79 00:04:06,705 --> 00:04:10,584 or I would see something that made me wanna draw, 80 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:15,046 and I would get this kind of anxiety that I had to draw, 81 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:17,799 I had to draw every day. To let it go. 82 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:27,267 He was young, very young, like... four. 83 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:33,231 At that time, he was drawing nostrils, fingernails, earlobes, 84 00:04:33,315 --> 00:04:35,942 you know, things that kids drew with stick figures, 85 00:04:36,026 --> 00:04:39,321 he was drawing, doing very intricate things. 86 00:04:39,863 --> 00:04:43,533 He was my first child, so I just thought I was the greatest mom 87 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:45,660 because he was so good, you know? 88 00:04:45,994 --> 00:04:47,954 His mom was, "You're the best. 89 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:50,707 You're amazing. You're the best artist in the world. 90 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:52,501 You're gonna grow up to be wonderful." 91 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:55,212 And then, at some point, you just believe it. 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,134 When I was a kid, my father met this guy at the line at the bank. 93 00:05:01,218 --> 00:05:04,679 He says, "I'm in karate. I have a business, a karate business." 94 00:05:04,763 --> 00:05:05,972 My dad comes home and he goes, 95 00:05:06,056 --> 00:05:08,099 "I got great news. You're going to martial arts school." 96 00:05:08,183 --> 00:05:10,560 I go, "I don't wanna do that." He goes, "Yeah." 97 00:05:10,644 --> 00:05:12,103 Hey, I'm paying for that... 98 00:05:12,687 --> 00:05:13,897 ...you're gonna go. 99 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:18,860 When he first started, he was real shy, wouldn't talk to anybody. 100 00:05:18,985 --> 00:05:21,530 But maybe about a year after karate, 101 00:05:21,613 --> 00:05:25,659 I would say that he was so confident that he'd walk straight up. 102 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:28,787 Going to the karate school introduced me 103 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:30,664 to the world of candy paint 104 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:35,293 because the grand master of the school was also a custom car painter, 105 00:05:35,377 --> 00:05:38,755 so I learned all those things, you know, the murals, the candy paint, 106 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,466 respect, the flow of life. 107 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:43,468 All these things kind of went in a circle. 108 00:05:43,593 --> 00:05:44,469 It's crazy. 109 00:05:48,265 --> 00:05:51,017 I'm Estevan Oriol. I'm a photographer and director. 110 00:05:51,101 --> 00:05:51,977 Raised in LA. 111 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:55,647 I was born in Santa Monica at Saint John's Hospital. 112 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:56,857 So you got Estevan. 113 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:59,568 Like, this tall cholo guy, 114 00:05:59,651 --> 00:06:01,987 but then most people don't know he's half Italian. 115 00:06:02,153 --> 00:06:05,407 My mom and dad were married up until I was about three. 116 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:08,577 And they split up, and it was me and my mom. 117 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:10,287 To me, my mom was great. 118 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:13,582 We grew up on welfare, food stamps and Medi-Cal, 119 00:06:13,665 --> 00:06:17,002 but she did her best to make it the best for me. 120 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:18,920 Any time you have mixed-race children, 121 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:23,091 they grow up a little bit confused though, "Am I this race or am I this race?" 122 00:06:23,174 --> 00:06:26,678 And at some point, you just gotta choose. He chose the Latino side. 123 00:06:26,761 --> 00:06:28,263 I didn't even know it until years later. 124 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:31,141 My dad, he was kind of like a hippie. 125 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:34,394 He didn't give a shit about having a nice car and all that shit, 126 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:37,856 so that pushed me to strive for more. 127 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:39,774 That's what gave me my drive. 128 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:42,277 So after high school, I worked at a snack bar, 129 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,695 I worked on fishing boats, 130 00:06:43,778 --> 00:06:44,946 supermarkets, 131 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:46,907 liquor store delivery. 132 00:06:46,990 --> 00:06:50,827 I always had, like, one, two, three jobs. 133 00:06:55,957 --> 00:06:57,876 At the time, in the '80s, 134 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:00,295 it was all about where do you fit in 135 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:01,504 in hip-hop. 136 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,341 Are you a breaker? Are you a rapper? 137 00:07:04,674 --> 00:07:07,260 Are you a locker? Are you a writer? 138 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:10,430 And I was like, "I love breakdancing, 139 00:07:10,513 --> 00:07:12,849 and all that shit," but I couldn't hang. 140 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:14,517 But I could draw. 141 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:16,770 Cartoon, uh, always had a marker 142 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:19,439 or a can of spray paint with him all the time. 143 00:07:19,731 --> 00:07:22,317 And wherever we were at, he'd hit up. 144 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:25,820 'Cause I was hip-hop. I had a b-boy side of me. 145 00:07:25,904 --> 00:07:30,659 It was, like, bombing, 3-Ds, fade. 146 00:07:31,701 --> 00:07:35,997 You know, before the Cartoon that he's known for today, 147 00:07:36,081 --> 00:07:37,874 he was an awesome graffiti writer. 148 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:42,379 He was from this crew WCA that was kind of legendary 149 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:43,922 and was really fucking good. 150 00:07:44,923 --> 00:07:47,550 I go to probably late '80s with Cartoon. 151 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:49,094 He was "Flame" at the time. 152 00:07:49,386 --> 00:07:51,805 I thought I knew everybody. I was like, "Who the fuck is this?" 153 00:07:51,888 --> 00:07:54,015 And he had such a unique style, and was so different. 154 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:56,851 He hit and run. Like, I'd see a wall, and next day I was like, 155 00:07:56,935 --> 00:07:58,728 "Where did this come from? Who did it?" You know. 156 00:07:59,396 --> 00:08:01,773 I basically do graffiti everywhere I go. 157 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:08,989 It brought me a rush, like, you can go to jail for this shit. 158 00:08:16,538 --> 00:08:19,833 He put his name, "Flame," on the graffiti piece, 159 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:22,377 and, so, he was caught, you know, for doing that. 160 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:26,965 There was something different about him. 161 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:30,385 We had an idea that someday he was gonna do something, 162 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:33,805 that he was gonna go somewhere, he was gonna be something in life. 163 00:08:34,055 --> 00:08:35,682 It's like a work of art in there. 164 00:08:35,765 --> 00:08:38,435 We were all proud of this, when he came out in the paper. 165 00:08:39,561 --> 00:08:41,730 I was just searching for my look, you know? 166 00:08:41,813 --> 00:08:43,606 What felt good and what felt real to me. 167 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:47,068 I went to LA Trade-Tech to learn Sign Graphics, 168 00:08:47,152 --> 00:08:48,486 to understand letters. 169 00:08:49,112 --> 00:08:51,072 Letters have a weight to them. 170 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:55,201 When I was in school, all the kids knew where the prisons were, 171 00:08:55,577 --> 00:08:57,829 and some of them would get letters from their family members, 172 00:08:57,912 --> 00:08:59,372 and I would look at the envelope 173 00:08:59,456 --> 00:09:03,710 and see these crazy collaged, pinta-style envelopes 174 00:09:04,127 --> 00:09:05,837 and I would think to myself, 175 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,634 "Man, if I could mix that style of artwork with bombing graffiti style, 176 00:09:11,801 --> 00:09:12,844 put them together." 177 00:09:13,344 --> 00:09:14,846 That's where my style was born. 178 00:09:23,772 --> 00:09:26,441 When I hit 19, I moved to Hollywood. 179 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,359 Sunset Boulevard was cracking. 180 00:09:28,443 --> 00:09:29,778 The Whisky, The Roxy. 181 00:09:29,861 --> 00:09:31,029 Hip-hop was new. 182 00:09:31,112 --> 00:09:33,406 Just that scene was fucking off the chain, 183 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,201 and I was working nightclubs for extra money. 184 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:38,703 And that's where I met all the LA bands. 185 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:40,997 Ice-T and the Rhyme Syndicate, 186 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:42,540 the Red Hot Chili Peppers, 187 00:09:42,624 --> 00:09:43,708 Boo-Yaa T.R.I.B.E., 188 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:45,293 Everlast from House of Pain. 189 00:09:45,376 --> 00:09:46,419 That's how I met Muggs. 190 00:09:46,503 --> 00:09:49,339 And then he took me down to the block on Cypress Ave, 191 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:51,216 and that's where I met B-Real and Sen. 192 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:00,558 So, this right here is SP 1200. 193 00:10:00,642 --> 00:10:04,437 This is the drum machine that we did um, all the House of Pain's records. 194 00:10:06,648 --> 00:10:08,733 ♪ Pack it up, pack it in Let me begin ♪ 195 00:10:08,858 --> 00:10:11,486 The sample though-- For "Jump Around," I made it. 196 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:14,072 Horn player... came in the studio, played the horn, 197 00:10:14,531 --> 00:10:16,616 and I put it in here, then I detuned it. 198 00:10:16,699 --> 00:10:19,077 When you detune it, it gives it like a crunch. 199 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,829 ♪ Feelin', funkin' Amps in the trunk ♪ 200 00:10:20,912 --> 00:10:23,790 It spreads it out a little bit. That's why that sounds unique. 201 00:10:26,751 --> 00:10:31,256 First time I met Estevan, he was working the door of a club on 2nd Street 202 00:10:31,339 --> 00:10:33,091 in, like, Little Tokyo. 203 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:35,009 He just would always show me love and let me in. 204 00:10:35,093 --> 00:10:37,554 That's the homie Steve-O, short for Steve Oriol. 205 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:40,557 Switched it up to Scan. Scan was just Scandalous. 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,642 After we started getting the music together, 207 00:10:42,725 --> 00:10:45,186 and we realized we were gonna go on the road, Muggs basically said, 208 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:47,564 "Yo, I know exactly who should be your road manager." 209 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:50,358 Who can I get that's fucking responsible and got they shit together? 210 00:10:50,441 --> 00:10:51,359 And I was like, "Who?" 211 00:10:51,442 --> 00:10:52,819 I hit up Scan and then, um... 212 00:10:52,902 --> 00:10:54,320 He became our tour manager. 213 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:55,864 That was it, right there. 214 00:10:55,947 --> 00:10:58,241 That was the beginning of us having worldwide escapades. 215 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:05,623 In the beginning, people didn't know that House of Pain was white. 216 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:07,000 People were like, "What the fuck?" 217 00:11:07,083 --> 00:11:09,252 "What are these fucking white boys walking through here?" 218 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:10,378 And then they'd hear the... 219 00:11:13,089 --> 00:11:16,092 And the whole fucking club would just go buck wild, berserk, 220 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:18,344 and they're just losing their fucking minds. 221 00:11:18,553 --> 00:11:20,180 From there, it just took off. 222 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,809 I was with the band in the music videos, like "Shamrocks and Shenanigans." 223 00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:27,979 When I wasn't here in LA, I was on tour with House of Pain. 224 00:11:28,605 --> 00:11:30,565 My dad, he was a photographer. 225 00:11:30,648 --> 00:11:33,318 He thought I lived kind of a cool lifestyle, so... 226 00:11:33,902 --> 00:11:36,446 This is my first camera that my dad gave me. 227 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:39,616 This is the one that I talk about when people say, 228 00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:42,577 "Oh, how did you start in photography?" 229 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:45,580 We would go on these little really fucked-up promo tours, 230 00:11:45,663 --> 00:11:47,790 and he was just always taking pictures. 231 00:11:57,342 --> 00:11:59,594 I figured out that I was gonna be an artist 232 00:11:59,677 --> 00:12:01,596 when it was time to get a real job. 233 00:12:02,138 --> 00:12:04,933 I think airbrushing T-shirts, when I first did that, 234 00:12:05,016 --> 00:12:06,559 about 17 years old, 235 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:09,187 is when I knew I could do this for a living. 236 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:11,481 And I would paint portraits of people's cars, 237 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:14,692 put it on a T-shirt and put the name over top. 238 00:12:15,235 --> 00:12:17,111 I just started working right off the bat. 239 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:19,405 Cartoon's Customs was born, 240 00:12:19,489 --> 00:12:21,741 kind of like preparing me to tattoo. 241 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,121 Scandalous got the camera. 242 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:29,916 Japan. It's how we do it. 243 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,676 Chicken and soup. And I'm gonna get the spinach and butter. 244 00:12:41,469 --> 00:12:43,638 When you're on the road, man, shit can get a bit stressful. 245 00:12:43,721 --> 00:12:46,182 You need somebody out there that knows everybody's personalities 246 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,851 and everything, keep everything at ease all the time. 247 00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:52,814 Every day was a new adventure, new city, new country, new shows. 248 00:12:53,356 --> 00:12:54,857 It was the shit, to roll with the homie. 249 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:55,775 Hey, Steve-O. 250 00:12:55,858 --> 00:12:59,153 He wasn't Estevan Oriol, the photographer. He was the road dog. 251 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:03,491 They got the homie. 252 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:07,745 Cypress Hill, at the time, had not only... selling crazy records or platinum records, 253 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,580 but a well-respected hip-hop group. 254 00:13:09,664 --> 00:13:12,750 B-Real was one of the dopest emcees in the world at the time. 255 00:13:13,001 --> 00:13:15,336 Look at this view, motherfuckers. 256 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:18,131 I look fucking good. 257 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:22,844 You never have to ask me if I'm ready. I'm always ready, motherfucker. Fuck you. 258 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:29,976 Oh, shit. That was a good hit. 259 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:33,771 Muggs had put on Estevan to work with the House of Pain guys 260 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,441 and then he came to work with us, Cypress Hill. 261 00:13:36,941 --> 00:13:39,444 His first show with us was at Woodstock 1994. 262 00:13:42,155 --> 00:13:45,867 B-Real jumps off the stage into the crowd, now I gotta pull him out, 263 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:48,244 but while I'm pulling him out, I'm taking pictures. 264 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:49,579 That shit was fucking crazy. 265 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:52,790 ♪ But I'm still comin' to get ya Thinkin' like a peace smoke ♪ 266 00:13:52,874 --> 00:13:56,085 ♪ Comin' on a homicide You talkin' shit, try to take... ♪ 267 00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:58,212 Estevan, he had many different roles he played. 268 00:13:58,296 --> 00:13:59,505 He was tour managing, 269 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:02,258 he was our photographer and videographer. 270 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:08,598 ♪ So what ya gonna do now? Being the hunted one is no fun ♪ 271 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:09,599 ♪ Here I come, son ♪ 272 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:10,516 Those are all mine. 273 00:14:11,225 --> 00:14:13,686 ♪ Better run more And move a little faster ♪ 274 00:14:13,770 --> 00:14:16,731 ♪ Second of thought And I'm comin' to blast ya with my ♪ 275 00:14:16,814 --> 00:14:20,151 ♪ Sawed off shotgun, hand on the pump Left hand on a forty ♪ 276 00:14:20,234 --> 00:14:21,319 ♪ Puffin' on a blunt ♪ 277 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:22,570 ♪ Pumped my shotgun ♪ 278 00:14:22,653 --> 00:14:23,780 ♪ Niggas didn't jump ♪ 279 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:26,783 - ♪ Lala, la la, la la, la la ♪ - Let's rock 'n' roll. 280 00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:28,659 ♪ Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill ♪ 281 00:14:28,743 --> 00:14:29,786 ♪ Look at it ♪ 282 00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:31,454 ♪ Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill ♪ 283 00:14:32,455 --> 00:14:33,956 ♪ Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill ♪ 284 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:34,957 ♪ Look at it ♪ 285 00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:38,378 That's the way our crew was. We all worked together very tightly. 286 00:14:38,628 --> 00:14:40,296 No one ever wore one hat. 287 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:45,134 You know, everybody did multiple things just to get whatever we needed done, 288 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,929 and Estevan, you know, he covered a lot of bases, 289 00:14:48,012 --> 00:14:50,264 and, at the same time, being our family and friend 290 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:53,684 and filling every spot that needed to be filled. 291 00:14:53,768 --> 00:14:55,728 What's up, dude? This is motherfucking Scandalous. 292 00:14:55,812 --> 00:14:57,647 If you need anything, I got what you want, baby. 293 00:14:58,773 --> 00:15:01,067 Motherfuckin', big old skunk. 294 00:15:04,070 --> 00:15:05,071 Come on! 295 00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:07,824 Can you hear me? We're right here in fucked-up Cleveland, 296 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,034 we just had Mother Nature trip the fuck out on us. 297 00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:11,035 Yeah! 298 00:15:11,994 --> 00:15:17,417 ♪ Olé, olé, olé, olé, Cypress, Cypress ♪ 299 00:15:17,542 --> 00:15:20,336 So Estevan came through and a lot of the great footage that we have now 300 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:23,297 from Cypress Hill in those early days, it was all Estevan Oriol footage. 301 00:15:23,381 --> 00:15:24,507 ♪ Cypress ♪ 302 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:25,591 ♪ Cypress ♪ 303 00:15:25,675 --> 00:15:26,634 ♪ Cypress Hill ♪ 304 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,177 ♪ Cypress Hill ♪ 305 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,429 ♪ Cypress ♪ 306 00:15:29,512 --> 00:15:30,847 ♪ Cypress ♪ 307 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:31,973 ♪ Cypress Hill ♪ 308 00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:33,224 ♪ Cypress Hill ♪ 309 00:15:33,307 --> 00:15:36,269 I have Steve-O in my head always saying things like, 310 00:15:36,352 --> 00:15:38,646 "I'm just right here. I'm just right here." 311 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:39,939 Him, I think, saying to me, 312 00:15:40,022 --> 00:15:42,108 "Don't worry about it. I'm doing my job. I'm right here." 313 00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:44,694 Alright, we're still on our way. 314 00:15:48,573 --> 00:15:50,741 The most pissed-on fucking countryside I've seen. 315 00:15:50,825 --> 00:15:53,744 - What else are we gonna do? - We need to get there before you do. 316 00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:54,787 Fucking Ireland. 317 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:58,332 - Oh, he's stuck! - You fucking bollocks! 318 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:00,877 What the fuck did he say? 319 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,670 We have to go backstage, you know? 320 00:16:02,753 --> 00:16:04,589 You can't get in that way. It's too small. 321 00:16:04,881 --> 00:16:07,175 - We wanna go backstage. - Yeah, you got a pass? 322 00:16:07,258 --> 00:16:09,844 Yeah, we-- This is our pass. Cypress Hill. 323 00:16:09,927 --> 00:16:11,637 - Cypress-- Oh, yeah. - Yeah. 324 00:16:11,721 --> 00:16:14,390 We made it, Engolf. 325 00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:16,309 I'm on tour with The Beastie Boys, 326 00:16:16,392 --> 00:16:17,560 No Doubt, The Fugees, 327 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,729 Limp Bizkit, Erykah Badu, 328 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:21,397 and all these other bands, 329 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:24,025 and I'm the only one there with a camera. 330 00:16:27,278 --> 00:16:29,655 You're going from nothing to seeing thousands of people 331 00:16:29,739 --> 00:16:33,493 losing their fucking minds to the song that you guys are bringing, you know? 332 00:16:33,576 --> 00:16:35,536 So, you're, like, "Fuck, man." 333 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:37,663 That's when I started, like, feeling like, 334 00:16:37,747 --> 00:16:40,416 "Okay, yeah, I need to take pictures of all this shit." 335 00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:45,463 This is Southern California, motherfucker. 336 00:16:46,047 --> 00:16:49,217 I started offering my photos to the magazines, 337 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:51,886 so music magazines started publishing my photos. 338 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:00,895 Yo, kick it off, dog. 339 00:17:00,978 --> 00:17:02,897 One, two, three. Chickity boom bang. 340 00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:05,608 Estevan... 341 00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:08,694 The motherfucker was the man, you know? He was a man of many hats. 342 00:17:08,903 --> 00:17:11,614 When I met him, I was about 14, 15 years old. 343 00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:14,659 I was in the group The Whooliganz. I rapped. I was a rapper. 344 00:17:14,742 --> 00:17:16,369 ♪ Book your silly crick Put your hands up ♪ 345 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:18,579 Me and my man Scotty. Scotty Caan. 346 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,793 We had made a record with B-Real, so they were bringing us out on tour 347 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:25,836 to pump up our record that hadn't come out yet. 348 00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:29,131 So, I'm 16 years old in that situation, 349 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:32,969 with nothing to do, but be alive for one hour. 350 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,971 Otherwise, it was, like, hit on girls, 351 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:37,306 smoke weed and drink, and hang out with your idols. 352 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:41,227 I don't like to represent an age group. I'm representing hip-hop. 353 00:17:41,686 --> 00:17:43,604 You know, he started fucking with the camera then... 354 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:46,232 Alchemist started fucking with beats then and... 355 00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,775 - Can we say "fuck"? - Yeah. 356 00:17:47,858 --> 00:17:49,569 You talk about that time, you can't not curse. 357 00:17:49,652 --> 00:17:50,861 It's impossible, you know? 358 00:17:50,945 --> 00:17:53,864 You gotta remember, in '93, Soul Assassins, 359 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:56,534 Cypress Hill, House of Pain, they were the top of rap. 360 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:59,203 You know, you had Dre and Snoop otherwise, 361 00:17:59,287 --> 00:18:02,456 but other than that, this was the biggest shit going on. 362 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:04,458 That was Soul Assassins. We were the top. 363 00:18:08,629 --> 00:18:11,507 I met Estevan Oriol 25 plus years ago. 364 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:14,343 It was surreal for a 16-year-old to go to a concert 365 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:16,887 with The Whooliganz opening up for House of Pain and Cypress Hill 366 00:18:16,971 --> 00:18:18,097 at the height of their career. 367 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,600 We were backstage, and they almost shut the whole concert down 368 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:23,352 because some guy named Estevan punched out the bootleggers. 369 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:26,897 They would get your artwork from the newspaper and make a shirt. 370 00:18:26,981 --> 00:18:29,150 Like an hour before the show, a couple-- All the homeboys 371 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:32,069 would like, put their hoods on and, like, go walk through the parking lot 372 00:18:32,153 --> 00:18:34,905 and you'd just be sittin' by the, you know, by the trailers, 373 00:18:34,989 --> 00:18:36,824 -and you just hear, "Wham!" -Damn! 374 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:39,160 And dudes would just get knocked out cold, like... 375 00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:40,369 I won't name any names. 376 00:18:40,453 --> 00:18:43,164 - Name names. - Muggs, Estevan. 377 00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:44,707 Motherfucker said something... 378 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:46,751 So I punch him in the face. 379 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:47,877 Poor guy. 380 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,587 So, that's when I met Estevan Oriol. 381 00:18:49,670 --> 00:18:51,339 Him beating up a bootlegger in San Francisco 382 00:18:51,422 --> 00:18:53,507 at a Soul Assassins' concert. 383 00:18:53,591 --> 00:18:56,177 When I met Steve-O, he was tour manager, 384 00:18:56,886 --> 00:18:58,721 the all-time funny guy... 385 00:19:00,514 --> 00:19:02,975 slash photographer, slash DJ. 386 00:19:03,059 --> 00:19:07,438 From their platinum album Temples of Boom, you guys, here is Cypress Hill! 387 00:19:07,521 --> 00:19:10,858 ♪ All this confusion's stressing me Out in my mind ♪ 388 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,487 There were times I think where he even may have filled in 389 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:17,573 as a member of Cypress Hill in interviews. 390 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:20,701 You can't blame all of us for these few groups. 391 00:19:20,785 --> 00:19:22,745 Clearly, the controversy is going to continue. 392 00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:24,830 -Thanks a lot for joining us. -Thanks for having us. 393 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:27,083 This is Cypress Hill. And now, back to New York. 394 00:19:28,626 --> 00:19:29,543 Then fight! 395 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:36,759 I think it all changed, though, when I did my first album cover. 396 00:19:38,511 --> 00:19:40,054 There were the 1992 riots. 397 00:19:40,137 --> 00:19:41,889 It's not a message of protest. 398 00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:44,266 It's the brutality of a mob. 399 00:19:46,811 --> 00:19:49,605 The verdict was read, and the streets went crazy. 400 00:19:51,941 --> 00:19:53,317 Shit just happened. 401 00:19:53,484 --> 00:19:57,363 Blacks and Mexicans started looking at each other, communicating 402 00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:58,989 like family. 403 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,867 Boy, they didn't like that. They didn't like that. 404 00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:05,663 I remember that day, driving on the 110 freeway, 405 00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:10,084 going to Hollywood and seeing the sides of the 110 406 00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:11,836 with fire on each side of it. 407 00:20:11,961 --> 00:20:14,672 What it did was, it spawned a relationship 408 00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:17,550 from '92 to now that they can never break. 409 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:20,094 But as crazy as that shit was, 410 00:20:20,177 --> 00:20:22,012 that everything was on fire 411 00:20:22,096 --> 00:20:24,890 and the injustice against Rodney King, 412 00:20:24,974 --> 00:20:27,476 and "fuck the police," and this and that, 413 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,021 I was driving, and the Kid Frost album cover I had drawn 414 00:20:31,105 --> 00:20:33,441 was blown up on a billboard 415 00:20:33,524 --> 00:20:34,734 for Virgin Records. 416 00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:39,697 Now I'm in the music game, and I don't even play the guitar. 417 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,746 Behind me is where me and Cartoon first met. 418 00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:49,623 On that particular night, they rented out the top floor 419 00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:52,251 for The Penthouse Players record release party. 420 00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:55,296 Me and my friend Donnie Charles, we went there together. 421 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,797 Right when we walked in, 422 00:20:56,881 --> 00:20:58,758 he saw Cartoon, and he goes, "Hey..." 423 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:01,385 "Come over here, uh, I want you to meet my other homie. 424 00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:02,553 He's Mexican too." 425 00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:04,221 "Both of you guys are in the music game. 426 00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:06,724 He did The Penthouse Players' album cover. 427 00:21:06,807 --> 00:21:09,810 You guys just kick it right here, and I'm gonna go roll around." 428 00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:13,606 "E" impacted my life because I found someone 429 00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:15,733 that was on the same mission I was, 430 00:21:15,816 --> 00:21:17,985 artistically, friendship-wise. 431 00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:20,571 I remember him telling me, "Mommy," says, 432 00:21:20,654 --> 00:21:24,116 "I met a guy that thinks along the same lines I do." 433 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,077 Probably my first seeing Cartoon was, like, early '94. 434 00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:28,788 If I remember correctly, 435 00:21:28,871 --> 00:21:31,874 it was at Muggs' crib up in the Hollywood Hills. 436 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:36,754 - They were in a '64 Impala. - It is a buddy comedy. 437 00:21:36,837 --> 00:21:39,799 Abbott and Costello. These two motherfuckers was non-stop. 438 00:21:39,882 --> 00:21:41,217 They knew how to hustle. 439 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,135 At the beginning, it was rough for us. 440 00:21:43,219 --> 00:21:46,806 And the more we hung out, the more we just started building on ideas 441 00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:50,142 of things that we could do to make money that weren't illegal. 442 00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:52,311 The check dance. Let's see the-- Let's see the-- 443 00:21:52,394 --> 00:21:53,562 The stripper check. 444 00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:59,026 Back in those days, you know, there was no Estevan without Cartoon. 445 00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:04,657 Cartoon's role in Soul Assassins, he's like the... the visuals. 446 00:22:04,782 --> 00:22:07,535 We saw the talent in him. We believed in him. 447 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:16,043 Get in there. Get in there, fucker. 448 00:22:16,126 --> 00:22:17,086 For real? 449 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:21,757 Turn the camera off! 450 00:22:25,761 --> 00:22:28,138 - Where we at? - We're in a ferry right now. 451 00:22:28,222 --> 00:22:30,224 Fucking eight in the morning and shit. 452 00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:31,851 I'm so tired. 453 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:35,271 All that tour life, man, I think that's what kind of molded us 454 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:38,232 to be able to have different relationships, you know? 455 00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:39,942 Just living that life, man. 456 00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,569 - You're high, man. - Wow! 457 00:22:41,652 --> 00:22:43,320 What do you think about that? It looks crazy. 458 00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:45,197 I'll take a little piece and taste it. 459 00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:48,325 When Cartoon first started coming around, he started doing all of our shit. 460 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,578 He was mad talented. 461 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,080 I would do the stage design. 462 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:54,498 Check, check. 463 00:22:54,582 --> 00:22:56,125 Artwork that I had drawn 464 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:59,503 would get blown up into this big giant blow-up doll 465 00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:01,630 of a king sitting on a throne, 466 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,632 the most gangster shit I could think of. 467 00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:06,677 I hadn't even started tattooing. I didn't even have a tattoo yet. 468 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,012 It wasn't until later I started 469 00:23:08,095 --> 00:23:10,556 hangin' around professional tattoo shops that... 470 00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:13,100 ...the smell of the green soap, 471 00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:15,394 the energy of the shop kind of drew me in. 472 00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:18,147 My life would go another direction. 473 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:31,827 This is NFC, stands for "No Fat Chicks." 474 00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:36,749 A long, long time ago, I made a tattoo machine... 475 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:39,627 for my partner Cartoon. 476 00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:42,171 And this is what he started tattooing me with. 477 00:23:43,213 --> 00:23:45,883 Even though I was good at drawing on paper, 478 00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:50,596 and I could do graffiti, airbrush, skin was a completely different world. 479 00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:54,683 His transition from drawing to the tattoo game 480 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,685 had everybody shook. 481 00:23:56,852 --> 00:23:59,063 I don't remember exactly how he transitioned, 482 00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:01,941 but I remember, like, his first tattoos. It was, like, "Oh, it's over." 483 00:24:02,024 --> 00:24:04,568 Cartoon came in and changed the game. 484 00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:07,404 From spraying on a metal to "Give me this fucking gun," 485 00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:09,531 he just, like, took to skin 486 00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:11,700 like it was just second nature. 487 00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:18,123 In the early days, he'd bring me all my customers. 488 00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:20,459 I'd just see all these people and all these bands, 489 00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:22,878 and I'd see their tattoos and I was like, 490 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,714 "Fuck, man, that tattoo looks like shit." 491 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:27,841 Just see them at a concert and be like, 492 00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,177 "Oh, you like tattoos? That's a nice tattoo. 493 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:32,888 You ever got tattooed by Cartoon? He did this on me." 494 00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:34,807 And I showed them mine, and they were fresh. 495 00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:35,933 Most of the guys were like, 496 00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:37,810 "Oh, that's badass, you know. Who did that?" 497 00:24:37,893 --> 00:24:40,813 "My boy Cartoon. He brought his shit. You can get tattooed with him." 498 00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:42,982 That's how I got all my clients, you know? 499 00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:44,316 My big ones. 500 00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:52,992 There is so much going on with those guys. 501 00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:58,622 They're super ambitious, super creative. 502 00:24:58,747 --> 00:25:01,250 You just want this same style, but just a little more symmetrical. 503 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:02,209 Like this. 504 00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:03,794 Super fun to be around. 505 00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:05,587 Super assholes at times. 506 00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:09,591 Hey, Paul, we're ready to get Jewish, get right. 507 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,927 I know Toons went on the Anger Management Tour 508 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:12,886 over to Europe. 509 00:25:13,429 --> 00:25:14,513 Everybody hung out. 510 00:25:14,722 --> 00:25:16,223 Anger Management Tour. 511 00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:18,100 -This was the tour. -Damn. 512 00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,977 We're doing these European festivals 513 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,229 and you get access to all these bands. 514 00:25:22,312 --> 00:25:23,647 I mean, all-access pass. 515 00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:27,526 Whookid is accused of trying to bribe a prostitute 516 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:29,570 with a mixtape and two tickets. 517 00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:35,576 Order in court! Order in court! 518 00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:38,662 Did you or did you not pay for pussy? 519 00:25:38,746 --> 00:25:40,247 I paid for entertainment. 520 00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,673 He's a pro at that, man. 521 00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,474 It was crazy, he was tattooing on tour over there in Europe. 522 00:25:58,766 --> 00:25:59,850 Amsterdam. 523 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:02,603 I came over here to Europe to come with Cypress Hill. 524 00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:07,066 Actually, it's a Cartoon tour featuring 50 Cent. 525 00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,776 He makes me want a tattoo and shit. 526 00:26:08,859 --> 00:26:11,987 - Eminem. - Cartoon, homie. Y'all can't afford it. 527 00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:14,573 - Xzibit. - Fucking ecstasy, man! 528 00:26:14,656 --> 00:26:15,741 Cypress Hill. 529 00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:19,203 It ain't easy, but somebody gotta do it. Why the hell not you, right? 530 00:26:19,286 --> 00:26:21,497 Basically, my tattoo customers are getting together 531 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,373 and throwing some type of little concert. 532 00:26:23,457 --> 00:26:25,667 That was pretty cool 'cause he was doing it sometimes 533 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:26,627 right backstage. 534 00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:33,050 -You're coming with us tomorrow, right? -We're coming at 3:00 p.m. 2:00 p-- 535 00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:34,093 No, 1:00 p.m. 536 00:26:34,676 --> 00:26:37,346 I was Proof before it, but this really-- 537 00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:41,266 Wow! I'm Proof now, for real, for real, you know what I'm saying? 538 00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:43,060 Motherfuckers are bored, 539 00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:45,521 so when you have a tattoo machine going in the back... 540 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:46,855 What do you got on that shoulder? 541 00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:50,317 ...and you're in Germany somewhere, you're gonna be there all day. 542 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,777 He's got another victim. 543 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:55,823 He shoulda did a class photo with all his ink victims on this tour. 544 00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:00,911 He did Bizarre from D12. He did his belly, man. 545 00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:03,122 I remember, I was there just watching him do this. 546 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:04,623 He had a lot of real estate. 547 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:08,544 He had lot of real estate right there. It was crazy. 548 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:09,920 If you're a rapper 549 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:14,633 and you ain't got a tattoo by Cartoon, then you ain't living. 550 00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:21,473 I was just that guy in the industry 551 00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:23,725 and people were coming to see me because of my work. 552 00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,894 I surrounded myself by talent. 553 00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:47,374 25 years old, this is holding its weight. 554 00:27:47,457 --> 00:27:49,960 DL, all day strong. Know what I'm talkin' bout? 555 00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:53,630 Hola. 556 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:07,186 Is there anywhere to go get something to eat? 557 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:08,687 Terminal two. 558 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:10,355 - Huh? - Terminal two. 559 00:28:10,439 --> 00:28:12,191 - How do you get there? - You go-- 560 00:28:13,609 --> 00:28:14,943 Where did she say to turn? 561 00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:16,195 The green ramp. 562 00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:21,366 New York City. No one's here. 563 00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:23,535 - You need that? - No. 564 00:28:23,619 --> 00:28:25,204 Let's go. 565 00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:31,668 Before you know it, everybody was calling Cartoon. 566 00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:33,754 He was top name, flying him in. 567 00:28:33,837 --> 00:28:36,632 Well, at that point in time, everybody started getting tatted up. 568 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,008 Hey, let's order a pizza pie. 569 00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:39,509 Gang Starr, you know what I'm saying? 570 00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:42,512 That means that's me and my motherfucking man Preemo, okay? 571 00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:43,764 -DJ Premier. -Yeah. 572 00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:48,310 Only real shit gets done on me anyway, so the realest shit, 573 00:28:48,393 --> 00:28:49,603 Mister Cartoon. 574 00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:50,854 This hot, though, this hot. 575 00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:52,481 He's created a masterpiece. 576 00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:57,402 Busted. 577 00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:02,241 I'm gonna leave my whole little cigarette binge right here in New York, 578 00:29:02,324 --> 00:29:03,242 where I found it. 579 00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:04,910 I thought you found it in Tokyo. 580 00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:05,869 Yeah, but... 581 00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,330 I can't leave it there cause I'm over here. 582 00:29:10,374 --> 00:29:11,792 That nigga Cartoon be doin'. 583 00:29:16,546 --> 00:29:20,092 You see, this is how we do it. 584 00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:22,177 And-- And what you have with Estevan... 585 00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:25,222 If I tell you to shut the fuck up, will you shut the fuck up? 586 00:29:25,305 --> 00:29:27,474 Insane drug addict, alcoholic. 587 00:29:27,557 --> 00:29:28,809 He was partying his ass off. 588 00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:32,271 I might've experimented with every kind of drug you could try. 589 00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:34,815 PCP, blow, mushrooms, 590 00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:36,900 acid, ecstasy, 591 00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:38,026 MDMA. 592 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,612 I'd wake up with the craziest cramps in my legs. 593 00:29:40,696 --> 00:29:42,614 And... it was just too much. 594 00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:44,616 We looked at each other and we were like, 595 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:46,702 "We need to go to the next level, man." 596 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:50,205 And to go to the next level, "E" had to leave... 597 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,791 the substances behind. 598 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:54,084 And he got sober 599 00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:57,671 and sponsored countless amount of people for years. 600 00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:00,757 Once he got sober, I just seen domination kick in. 601 00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:02,843 And they grew that empire, 602 00:30:02,926 --> 00:30:04,720 Soul Assassins Studios. 603 00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:06,805 Before you know it... 604 00:30:11,435 --> 00:30:13,729 I mean, should I tell you-- I can tell you the whole story now. 605 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,277 ♪ Now here's a little something That needs to be heard ♪ 606 00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:23,447 My first time going to S.A. Studios, 607 00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:24,906 lowriders, 608 00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:27,200 rims, 609 00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:28,952 the art on the wall. 610 00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:31,246 I was like a kid in a candy store. 611 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:35,125 It was like a Chicano... 612 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:37,210 like a camp, like a club. 613 00:30:37,294 --> 00:30:39,296 These dudes are like cholo Da Vincis. 614 00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:42,424 I never would've found them if I hadn't become successful. 615 00:30:42,507 --> 00:30:44,885 Yeah. Yeah. Check, check. 616 00:30:45,469 --> 00:30:48,430 Yo. I remember walking in, though, and being like, 617 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:50,557 "Damn, you guys made it." 618 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,144 'Cause it was, like, fucking incredible. 619 00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,437 You're in downtown, 620 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,773 and you're in the thick of it, Skid Row is right there, 621 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,025 and that spot was super jammin'. I loved that. 622 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:02,444 It seemed like it should be like a tour museum. 623 00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:04,237 Like, people need to see that shit. 624 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:08,325 When we first moved down here, this was an extension of Skid Row. 625 00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:12,496 This is where the homeless used to live. The people on drugs or mentally ill. 626 00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:15,082 That's what this area was like before. 627 00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:18,585 Can you see it? All right. The Art Department were those two windows. 628 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:20,504 And we had like a little showroom here. 629 00:31:20,837 --> 00:31:24,841 We had all of our cars laid out behind these windows. 630 00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:26,802 Inside that double doors right there 631 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:30,222 was Cartoon's Skid Row Tattoo. 632 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:32,349 S.A. Studios. That was a great time. 633 00:31:32,432 --> 00:31:33,600 It was like a hideout. 634 00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:36,395 You guys gave us the tour. Like, showed us a bunch of shit. 635 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:38,814 It was kind of like a wild playground. 636 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:41,274 Come on! Let's go! Busted! Yeah! 637 00:31:41,358 --> 00:31:42,401 Shalom. 638 00:31:42,484 --> 00:31:44,611 Yeah, I got a good tattoo for you guys right here. 639 00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:46,905 Oh! 640 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,032 The Jew unit in effect, you know what I'm saying? 641 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:53,328 We have these two guys with shaved heads covered in tattoos, 642 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,872 and then you go to their office, and they have their own Nikes, 643 00:31:55,956 --> 00:31:57,249 they have their own Vans. 644 00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:59,668 And Estevan's sittin' there, and his room's a mess, 645 00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:02,087 and he has like a little gun on the table. 646 00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:05,924 Motorcycles. It was the illest, illest studio ever. 647 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:08,260 It was nothing like I'd ever seen before. 648 00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:09,886 I'm green with envy. 649 00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:13,265 When I walked out and I saw Too $hort, and then I saw Darlene, 650 00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,225 Ice-T's old wife, right? 651 00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:16,643 Well, I saw 50 there. 652 00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:17,769 I saw Dre, Snoop. 653 00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:20,021 You know, every day was somebody else coming through. 654 00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:21,940 I saw her walking in, and I'm like, 655 00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:24,693 "Oh, this must be the spot." You know what I'm saying? Like... 656 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:26,778 I saw Eminem over there. 657 00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:27,904 He tatted me there. 658 00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:29,614 I think one day I saw Kim Kardashian there. 659 00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:32,075 Went and done a photo shoot with her or whatever. 660 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:33,326 You guys still got that place? 661 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:36,705 The building itself seemed slightly dangerous. 662 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:37,873 Oh, there comes shitbox. 663 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,834 I'm sure it's really dangerous, but since you planted 664 00:32:40,917 --> 00:32:42,377 your spot there it became-- 665 00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:44,504 It was like a safe house or something. 666 00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:46,923 The homeless people around it, they took care of it. 667 00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:49,468 You know, that's why no one ever really messed with that building. 668 00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:52,888 Pull your ass over. Face the wall. 669 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:55,765 And I wanna see your ID and your bike. 670 00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:57,434 There's my ID, 671 00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:58,894 there's my nutsack, 672 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,312 and fuck you, my ass. 673 00:33:01,438 --> 00:33:04,483 It seems like we were able to exist in multiple worlds. 674 00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:05,692 You know what I'm saying? 675 00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:08,195 For lunch, we'd be in downtown 676 00:33:08,278 --> 00:33:11,323 and bullshitting with some crazy homeless guy in his tent. 677 00:33:11,406 --> 00:33:13,742 Estevan would jump out and take a picture of him. 678 00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:18,413 And then we'd jump on the 10 freeway and be at a five-star hotel. 679 00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:20,415 It was just normal, you know what I'm saying? 680 00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,168 I'm Pepper, you know? 681 00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:26,129 I'm Skid Row's most highest-ranked right now. 682 00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:27,839 I'm the mayor of Skid Row. 683 00:33:27,923 --> 00:33:30,217 The homeless pretty much answer to me. 684 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,677 Factory place was dead. 685 00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:35,388 When Joker, Cartoon, everyone come here. 686 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,433 They brought the factory to life, okay? 687 00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,560 And then I came into the scene. 688 00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:43,480 - How old you turn? - Forty-one. 689 00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:45,023 Okay, I'm 50. 690 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:47,776 Soon to be 51 in a couple of months. 691 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,780 I'm an ex-convict, ex-drug dealer, ex-drug user. 692 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,490 I gutted his ass. 693 00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:55,867 We got in an argument, so I gutted him. 694 00:33:56,076 --> 00:33:58,286 This family never gave up on me. 695 00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:02,749 They never gave up on me when I was all filthy, drugged out and shit. 696 00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:04,793 When I was thrown in and out of County Jail, 697 00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:06,670 they accepted me with open arms when I come out. 698 00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:09,256 I've been dealing with homeless people 699 00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:10,549 all my life, you know. 700 00:34:10,632 --> 00:34:12,175 They don't wanna follow rules. 701 00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,135 I work when I wanna work. 702 00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:16,972 Sleep when I wanna sleep. 703 00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:20,016 Sleep where I wanna sleep. 704 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,895 They have a problem with authority. 705 00:34:23,979 --> 00:34:27,315 And whoever don't like it, fuck them in their ass and suck my dick. 706 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:30,277 For the fourth time today. This is harassment. 707 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,404 Fourth time being stopped for no reason. 708 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:36,241 - See you tomorrow, Pepper! - All right. 709 00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:39,244 We could fall off and lose all our shit. 710 00:34:39,327 --> 00:34:40,620 Pepper's world. 711 00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:43,290 So, any of us could be walking the streets, you know? 712 00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:44,833 Drugs will take you down there. 713 00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:49,212 But that's the way life goes. Life is about change. 714 00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,381 And change is what it's about. 715 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:54,926 Look, if y'all gonna keep telling me 716 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:57,304 which way to move, we can't do no interview. Damn! 717 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,723 Look, are you good, cameraman? All right. 718 00:34:59,806 --> 00:35:03,143 Listen, I'm Big Lepke, Westside Rebels, gangster locos. 719 00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:04,978 Yeah, I'm an ex-gang member. 720 00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:07,272 We up on Skid Row. We keep it real. 721 00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:09,774 Today we ain't trippin'. Ain't no heroin in the veins. 722 00:35:09,858 --> 00:35:11,151 Ain't no rock in the mouth. 723 00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:13,069 Skid Row was my home. 724 00:35:13,153 --> 00:35:15,071 Some people call it "hell." I call it "home." 725 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,281 The city I roam. 726 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,743 So, right here Lepke would get the boxes 727 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:21,286 from when we'd throw them out, 728 00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:23,121 and he'd make like a little bed right here. 729 00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:25,749 I remember one time we were coming to have a meeting here 730 00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:28,168 and Lepke, he'd been shooting heroin. 731 00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:31,755 We were like, "Great, fucking Lepke's passed out. 732 00:35:31,838 --> 00:35:35,050 The clients are coming, and we're gonna have this big meeting, 733 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,802 and there's our, you know, dopefiend friend 734 00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:40,513 passed out from shooting too much heroin. 735 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:44,559 You know, he didn't OD, so we didn't have to stick an ice cube up his ass. 736 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:48,229 But he was knocked out, so we had to spray him with some water... 737 00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:51,733 so he could come to. 738 00:35:52,442 --> 00:35:53,485 Hey. 739 00:35:53,902 --> 00:35:55,945 Come back. 740 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:57,656 Get him later. 741 00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:58,948 I'm over here, kickin' it. 742 00:35:59,032 --> 00:36:01,034 - Don't threaten me, man. - Hey, motherfucker. 743 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,745 No, no, we told him, "You gotta go. We're gonna have a meeting." 744 00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:05,664 Oh, suck a dick. 745 00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:09,167 Yeah, he squirted some water in my nose, and it was a cool wake-up call. 746 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:10,710 I always think about stuff like that. 747 00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:12,379 You're gonna get kicked. 748 00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:15,965 So, downtown has always been a Soul Assassins' headquarters. 749 00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:20,970 It was kind of like a home base. Kind of reminds me of Grand Theft Auto. 750 00:36:21,054 --> 00:36:22,222 Estevan was upstairs, 751 00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:23,765 Cartoon was tattooing. 752 00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:26,142 There was eyes on it. It was protected, man, yeah. 753 00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:28,853 There's like a shield around it or something. 754 00:36:28,937 --> 00:36:32,315 But you take pictures, you do cars, all that stuff in that space. 755 00:36:32,399 --> 00:36:34,275 You tattoo there. 756 00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:37,904 There's only one guy that I let do my tattoos, 757 00:36:37,987 --> 00:36:39,364 and my kids' tattoos. 758 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:41,574 The great Cartoon. 759 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,585 How does the car look? 760 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,546 Great. 761 00:36:54,629 --> 00:36:56,756 Tattoos used to be a stigma. 762 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,799 I mean, a bad one. 763 00:36:58,007 --> 00:36:59,259 When I got out of the pen, 764 00:36:59,342 --> 00:37:02,595 the first girl I saw with a tattoo, I-- I thought she was a hooker. 765 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:04,514 Before him, tattooing hip-hop guys, 766 00:37:04,597 --> 00:37:07,434 I don't think there was a prominent position in hip-hop 767 00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:09,144 where guys were getting tatted like that. 768 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,479 Nobody was-- Like, in hip-hop, was about that. 769 00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:12,564 I mean-- 770 00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:16,651 Fuck, I mean, I feel like Cartoon gave Eminem one of his first tattoos, 771 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:19,237 Didn't he? He gave Snoop one of his first tattoos. 772 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,198 Look at this, man. I really look like my old boy Nate Dogg. 773 00:37:22,782 --> 00:37:24,576 It looks like my lovely wife. 774 00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,202 He captured that, man. 775 00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:28,788 I mean, I don't even have a Cartoon tattoo, believe it or not. 776 00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:30,790 That's, you know what I mean, I'd love one. 777 00:37:30,874 --> 00:37:34,127 But, you know, I'm not paying 50 Gs. I'm just not doing it. 778 00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:37,422 This guy is the best in the world, but he costs an arm and a leg. 779 00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:39,424 He'll tattoo your arm and he'll take it with you. 780 00:37:40,425 --> 00:37:41,926 Hey, man, it's worth it. 781 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:44,929 - Talk about your new tattoo. - Cartoon is the greatest tattoo artist 782 00:37:45,013 --> 00:37:46,556 to ever live. 783 00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:51,227 This should be enough for this, because, my man-- 784 00:37:51,311 --> 00:37:54,355 He's the greatest, the quickest, uh... 785 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,484 - With the biggest truck. - With the biggest truck. 786 00:37:58,193 --> 00:37:59,736 It's getting expensive, man. 787 00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:01,946 With the biggest truck... 788 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,032 in the world, probably. 789 00:38:04,324 --> 00:38:06,993 I mean, his clientele, you know, it's like, you know, Travis, 790 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,578 and Eminem, Redman, 791 00:38:08,661 --> 00:38:09,996 Method Man, you know, 792 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,372 Justin Timberlake, 793 00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:12,999 Beyoncé from Destiny's Child... 794 00:38:13,166 --> 00:38:14,209 Don't show me. 795 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,504 It's appointment only 796 00:38:17,587 --> 00:38:20,673 and not every deek off the street can just come in and get something. 797 00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:22,884 I knew If I was gonna get my fucking head done, 798 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,136 for what I wanted and stuff, and the style, 799 00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:26,763 I knew it was gonna be Cartoon, you know. 800 00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:44,864 That was an experience. 801 00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,367 I would hear his name in songs. The Game, 802 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:50,119 there's a couple of rap songs where he drops Cartoon's name. 803 00:38:50,203 --> 00:38:52,831 ♪ I'm to hip-hop What Cartoon is to Mexicans ♪ 804 00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:56,125 You know, I'm a hip-hop fan, and, so, I would see Cartoon 805 00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:57,544 pop up in music videos. 806 00:39:02,841 --> 00:39:04,717 ♪ From the reign of the tec I break 'em off ♪ 807 00:39:04,801 --> 00:39:07,428 ♪ I even got a tattoo With your name across the chest ♪ 808 00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,555 In the waiting room, 809 00:39:08,638 --> 00:39:10,348 I remember looking at the pictures on the wall, 810 00:39:10,431 --> 00:39:12,141 pictures Estevan probably took. 811 00:39:12,225 --> 00:39:15,186 Cartoon was tatting up all those, 50 Cent, Eminem and Dr. Dre. 812 00:39:15,436 --> 00:39:17,272 If Xzibit was getting tattooed, 813 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:20,692 Estevan was photographing him, and you'd see that photo everywhere. 814 00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:26,030 I knew pretty early on that he had done the Xs on Xzibit, 815 00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:27,448 that he did 50 Cent's back, 816 00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:29,826 You know, 50 got that shit on his back, man. 817 00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:31,202 That shit is crazy. 818 00:39:31,286 --> 00:39:33,079 ♪ One, two, three, let's go! ♪ 819 00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:35,915 ♪ Lil' mama, show me how you move it ♪ 820 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:38,167 ♪ Go ahead, put your back into it ♪ 821 00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:42,463 More people were coming down, more people were willing to come downtown. 822 00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:46,634 I mean, back then, people used to complain about having to drive to downtown. 823 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:48,887 "Oh, all the way downtown?" 824 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:51,556 They wouldn't go east of La Brea. 825 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,099 50 Cent, my boy Cartoon. 826 00:39:53,182 --> 00:39:54,893 We out here in LA, boy. 827 00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:57,228 Cartoon was tattooing 50 Cent in there, 828 00:39:57,312 --> 00:39:59,856 and he said he had to go have a meeting. 829 00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:03,234 He was going to sign with Jimmy Iovine at Interscope. 830 00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:04,193 Huh? Huh? 831 00:40:04,277 --> 00:40:06,321 So he had to leave for an hour or two. 832 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:10,658 So me and Cartoon left in his brand-new white Escalade 833 00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:12,952 on, like, 22-inch rims. 834 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,832 About six police officers followed us down that street. 835 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:19,667 They pulled us both out of the car. 836 00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:22,545 They threw me on the ground, put the handcuffs behind my back, 837 00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:25,798 put his shotgun in the back of my head right here, 838 00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:27,008 and he was shaking. 839 00:40:27,091 --> 00:40:28,343 What happened was... 840 00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,428 Some motorcycle cop was put in the hospital 841 00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:34,599 by a young gentleman with a shaved head looking a lot like me, 842 00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:36,935 driving a truck like this. 843 00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:39,812 We have customers here from out of town. 844 00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:42,315 And they go, "Hey, you guys gotta go," then 50 Cent said... 845 00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:45,818 I ain't did it. Cartoon ain't did it. Leave us the fuck alone. 846 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:48,154 If you go on a talk show, you have a big story to tell. 847 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,322 I get my tattoo done... 848 00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:53,076 -That tattoo artist got- -Yeah, on my back. And they're harassing. 849 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,118 We ain't going nowhere. 850 00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:55,536 He's a friend of mine from Virginia, 851 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,664 but he's going to see this shit and that's gonna be it. 852 00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,707 ♪ To flip dough To get more for sho' ♪ 853 00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:01,501 ♪ Get my drink on Then get on the dance floor ♪ 854 00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:04,963 Did you ever get anybody, like, right at this point, "Wait, I wanna change it"? 855 00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:08,049 All you need now is, uh, Mister Cartoon's signature. 856 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:10,677 What's up, y'all? It's Nas. 857 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,054 Chillin' up here with my man Cartoon. 858 00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:14,722 Hey, yo, this is Meth right here. 859 00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:18,351 I just got a tattoo done by the world-famous Cartoon. 860 00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:19,936 -Cartoon. -Cartoon, baby. 861 00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:22,689 What? 862 00:41:30,571 --> 00:41:32,615 Cartoon is... 863 00:41:32,699 --> 00:41:33,574 just an OG. 864 00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:35,284 He's one of the illest. 865 00:41:35,368 --> 00:41:38,371 Cartoon really made black and gray popular again. 866 00:41:38,454 --> 00:41:42,250 I'd sit down with Cartoon, and we really wouldn't even have a plan. 867 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,293 I would trust him to just go freehand. 868 00:41:45,712 --> 00:41:48,798 I had an appointment with Cartoon. We all came to my spot in Corona. 869 00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,675 We had just met, but it felt, like, you know, 870 00:41:50,758 --> 00:41:52,719 we had all been homies for a long time. 871 00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,137 We got the kids with us, 872 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,097 we're taking the whole families, Fourth of July. 873 00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,599 The first tattoo Cartoon did on me was 874 00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:00,059 praying hands on the side of my head. 875 00:42:00,143 --> 00:42:02,145 It said, "Barker," like my family name. 876 00:42:03,271 --> 00:42:05,231 It was like therapy or something, you know. 877 00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:07,984 Just sitting with Toons, you don't even realize you're getting tattooed. 878 00:42:09,694 --> 00:42:11,320 I think the next tattoos he did 879 00:42:11,404 --> 00:42:13,865 was he started filling in my ghetto blaster. 880 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:16,075 He also did this Marilyn piece 881 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,494 right on my Adam's apple, that one's a hard one. 882 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,830 Look at that shit. 883 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,249 My son was born, and we were recording the new record, 884 00:42:23,332 --> 00:42:24,792 and I'd decided that I wanted to get 885 00:42:24,876 --> 00:42:26,836 my wife and son's name tattooed, and Travis said... 886 00:42:26,919 --> 00:42:28,629 "Then you gotta go to Cartoon, he's the best." 887 00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:32,550 And we were literally set up on a road case in the living room 888 00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:34,177 with all my bass equipment in it. 889 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,471 And I was nervous about getting my first tattoos. 890 00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:38,431 I remember just as he was about to start, he said, 891 00:42:38,514 --> 00:42:39,891 "Hey, man, I wanna give you props." 892 00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:41,976 Being the first-class guy you are, you picked 893 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:44,145 one of the more painful spots to get tattooed. 894 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,940 And he started tattooing "Jack." 895 00:42:48,024 --> 00:42:49,817 And about halfway through "Jack," 896 00:42:49,901 --> 00:42:52,070 I didn't know that the wife was gonna happen at all. 897 00:42:52,153 --> 00:42:53,821 These are still the only tattoos that I have. 898 00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,032 I don't know, being tattooed by Cartoon 899 00:42:56,115 --> 00:42:57,992 kind of feels like you're in an exclusive club? 900 00:42:58,076 --> 00:43:00,203 Anybody who has Cartoon tats, 901 00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:02,622 of any significance, he's like... your brothers. 902 00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:04,207 Now I'm brothers with 50 Cent, 903 00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:06,250 Eminem, Beyoncé, and everybody else. 904 00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:09,879 Cartoon is instrumental in bringing his tattoo style 905 00:43:09,962 --> 00:43:13,174 into the mainstream for a really simple reason. 906 00:43:13,508 --> 00:43:15,676 He's tattooing celebrities, 907 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,386 he's tattooing athletes. 908 00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:18,930 Those people are photographed. 909 00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:21,516 You see those tattoos. Those people are everywhere. 910 00:43:22,058 --> 00:43:25,228 I was lucky enough to go to my first World Series and win it. 911 00:43:25,353 --> 00:43:27,688 I wanted that to stay with me for the rest of my life. 912 00:43:27,814 --> 00:43:29,357 So I wanted Toons. 913 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,736 Being a tattoo artist, our heroes were working out their kitchen 914 00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:35,738 or their garage at their mom's house. 915 00:43:36,364 --> 00:43:41,994 They hadn't been to really a red-carpet level at that point. 916 00:43:42,078 --> 00:43:44,413 There was some tattooers that was higher than others 917 00:43:44,539 --> 00:43:45,665 that we looked up to... 918 00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:50,628 but it wasn't set up that that was the jewelry of an NBA player. 919 00:43:50,711 --> 00:43:53,381 - Kobe! - Attacking. All the way! 920 00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:55,633 Kobe did it! 921 00:43:55,716 --> 00:43:58,427 Tattoos are a big thing in NBA. 922 00:43:58,511 --> 00:44:01,305 I mean, not just in NBA, but just in sports culture in general. 923 00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:02,640 You know, I always said-- 924 00:44:02,723 --> 00:44:04,600 'Cause I had guys on the team that had tattoos, 925 00:44:04,684 --> 00:44:07,645 but they didn't go to Mister Cartoon, and it becomes pretty apparent 926 00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:09,939 because I can't read what the fuck's on their arm anyway. 927 00:44:10,022 --> 00:44:13,317 A lot of it is not how good of a tattooer you are. 928 00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:14,610 It's your timing 929 00:44:15,236 --> 00:44:17,280 and who you surround yourself by. 930 00:44:17,363 --> 00:44:19,824 You could be the dopest motherfucker in the world, 931 00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:23,119 but if no one sees your shit 'cause you're in some small town somewhere, 932 00:44:23,536 --> 00:44:24,996 that's not Hollywood. 933 00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:29,125 We're right here in the mix of the shit. 934 00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:36,924 I was in China. We were staying at a hotel. 935 00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:38,217 I went down to the weight room. 936 00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:40,428 There was a young woman working behind the desk, right? 937 00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:41,721 They have a policy. 938 00:44:41,804 --> 00:44:44,724 If you have tattoos on your arms, you have to wear long sleeves. 939 00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,184 I'm like, "What?" 940 00:44:46,267 --> 00:44:48,686 She says, "I'm sorry, you have to put on long sleeves." 941 00:44:48,769 --> 00:44:49,937 And she goes, 942 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:52,148 "But that's Mister Cartoon, right? He did the artwork." 943 00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:54,275 I'm like, "Dude, how did you know that's Mister Cartoon 944 00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:55,735 but you know, I can't--?" You know. 945 00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:58,029 But she knew that was Mister Cartoon's artwork. 946 00:44:58,112 --> 00:45:01,574 This is a young woman in Beijing. It's so far removed from LA. 947 00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:02,867 That's big. 948 00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,244 Waiting on Paul Rosenberg... 949 00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:07,830 manager of the stars, 950 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:09,582 Eminem. 951 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:12,877 Paul, being the person he is, 952 00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,713 recognized Estevan and his photography skills, 953 00:45:15,796 --> 00:45:18,674 and Cartoon with his art skills and packaging. 954 00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:20,009 I certainly figured out 955 00:45:20,134 --> 00:45:22,720 ways to maximize having access to them. 956 00:45:22,803 --> 00:45:25,264 You know, everything, from working with Eminem... 957 00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:26,807 You see Big Lepke? 958 00:45:26,974 --> 00:45:29,018 ...and designing the Shady Records' logo. 959 00:45:32,772 --> 00:45:35,775 When I was doing the portrait of Eminem's daughter, 960 00:45:35,858 --> 00:45:38,027 I knew it was big, but I didn't know how. 961 00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:39,237 You know what I'm saying? 962 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,490 You know, I wasn't looking at the major impact 963 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:43,908 that it would have later. 964 00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:46,160 I was just doing what was in front of me. 965 00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:50,206 ♪ Or even worse, they can teach hate ♪ 966 00:45:50,289 --> 00:45:51,499 ♪ It's like these kids ♪ 967 00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:53,292 Eminem video shoot. 968 00:45:54,502 --> 00:45:56,921 Waiting on doing some tattoos on the homie. 969 00:45:57,922 --> 00:46:01,592 They came to Detroit, and he said, "We should do a mushroom." 970 00:46:01,676 --> 00:46:04,095 He said-- He was like, "I can do a big-ass mushroom." 971 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,223 He did all-- my whole sleeves. 972 00:46:07,306 --> 00:46:10,351 I don't know, I got them removed since then. I'm kidding. 973 00:46:10,434 --> 00:46:12,937 I wanna get something like this over here, 974 00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:14,981 but just-- I wanna make sure that it's the right shit 975 00:46:15,064 --> 00:46:16,649 'cause tattoos are for life. 976 00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:19,610 You know, We could bust something out like your-- 977 00:46:20,486 --> 00:46:21,946 Your daughter's portrait. 978 00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:25,199 Right here, I would probably put something around this 979 00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:26,742 to beefen it up a little bit. 980 00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:27,702 Right. 981 00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:31,872 And maybe put another ribbon and kind of tie it into the other side. 982 00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:34,292 It's so crazy. 983 00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:40,798 One of the things was Hailie. I wanted to put her on my arm. 984 00:46:42,466 --> 00:46:44,302 You should just outline... 985 00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,846 My favorite rappers were getting tattooed. 986 00:46:46,929 --> 00:46:48,514 Like, that shit trips you out. 987 00:46:48,597 --> 00:46:50,433 Let me put some bullet holes. 988 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,731 I remember being in the bathroom 989 00:46:56,814 --> 00:47:01,110 and I was tripping out that I was the only person there 990 00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,404 documenting Cartoon tattooing 991 00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:06,240 the biggest artist in the world at that time. 992 00:47:14,415 --> 00:47:17,001 - ♪ That's why ♪ - ♪ They call me Slim Shady ♪ 993 00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:22,423 I remember, man, I'm getting those shots 994 00:47:22,506 --> 00:47:26,093 of the greatest of all times in our lifetime, 995 00:47:26,177 --> 00:47:29,722 like the number one celebrity, artist, 996 00:47:29,805 --> 00:47:31,349 anything in the world. 997 00:47:31,807 --> 00:47:33,225 And I was there documenting it, 998 00:47:33,309 --> 00:47:34,727 I wished, I remember, like, 999 00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:37,480 kind of like smiling in the mirror, like I was happy. 1000 00:47:38,147 --> 00:47:40,066 I got a question I wanna ask you. 1001 00:47:41,025 --> 00:47:43,778 How many people are sick... 1002 00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:49,158 of motherfuckers talking shit about me? 1003 00:47:53,037 --> 00:47:54,872 And it was a cool feeling, you know? 1004 00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:58,042 It made me, like, think of all the times when there was, like, 1005 00:47:58,125 --> 00:48:00,753 a picture of Elvis Presley getting his hair cut 1006 00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:03,005 and it's just him and the barber. 1007 00:48:03,089 --> 00:48:06,801 Damn, that photographer had some crazy-ass access, you know? 1008 00:48:06,967 --> 00:48:08,552 Oh, yeah, get one of those too. 1009 00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,137 You have to put that shit on your back. 1010 00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:15,935 Cartoon. Big Cartoon. 1011 00:48:16,018 --> 00:48:17,311 Call him Big Cartoon now. 1012 00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:18,646 Guy's good, man. 1013 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:19,855 He's pretty decent. 1014 00:48:21,524 --> 00:48:25,194 Estevan's eye for seeing what angle to shoot something... 1015 00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:29,365 how to bring someone's best look out of them. 1016 00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:33,953 A lot of other photographers, that's what they don't understand. 1017 00:48:34,829 --> 00:48:36,705 They don't know how to make someone look good. 1018 00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:40,918 George Lopez! 1019 00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:45,756 When I got my star in the Walk of Fame, Estevan came over 1020 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,591 and took this fucking amazing picture of me 1021 00:48:47,675 --> 00:48:49,009 surrounded by the fans, 1022 00:48:49,093 --> 00:48:51,303 and thousands of people, maybe a couple thousand people. 1023 00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:53,389 And to get that, 1024 00:48:53,472 --> 00:48:55,766 of me and my suit, of me with the flag, 1025 00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:57,768 of me surrounded by, you know, 1026 00:48:57,852 --> 00:49:01,355 other Latinos right there on Hollywood Boulevard was-- It was great. 1027 00:49:06,569 --> 00:49:09,113 Same thing, that's why he gets a lot of jobs in hip-hop. 1028 00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:12,241 'Cause he knows hip-hop. 1029 00:49:14,034 --> 00:49:15,327 Grew up in that shit. 1030 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:18,789 So it's better for someone from the inside 1031 00:49:19,331 --> 00:49:21,500 to shoot the outside, you know? 1032 00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:28,299 On my Ego Trippin' cover, me and Estevan, 1033 00:49:28,382 --> 00:49:30,885 we went back to my old high school, Poly High School, 1034 00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:34,346 got an old B210 like I used to have in high school, 1035 00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:35,890 had on my Letterman jacket, 1036 00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:37,892 and it just felt like I was in high school. 1037 00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:38,976 That shit was hard. 1038 00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:42,104 But only he could capture what I wanted. 1039 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:44,982 This is an era when Dogg didn't have money. 1040 00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:46,567 He understood that. 1041 00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:50,237 Shoot Snoop Doggy Dogg. Snoop Doggy fizzle fizzle. 1042 00:49:56,744 --> 00:50:00,789 If Estevan did your album cover, Cartoon was doing the artwork. 1043 00:50:01,624 --> 00:50:04,043 Some people try to do everything by themselves. 1044 00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:06,837 We just did different ends of the table. 1045 00:50:06,921 --> 00:50:09,548 He covered photography 1046 00:50:09,632 --> 00:50:12,593 while I would do the logo, I would draw the concept. 1047 00:50:28,192 --> 00:50:32,238 I've seen this, when they're snapping 400 pictures to get some shit, 1048 00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:34,031 and I've seen this guy walk out... 1049 00:50:35,824 --> 00:50:36,659 Bam. 1050 00:50:36,742 --> 00:50:38,202 Stand against that wall. Click. 1051 00:50:38,285 --> 00:50:40,162 And then you see it, it could be an album cover 1052 00:50:40,246 --> 00:50:41,956 or, like, the cover of a magazine. 1053 00:50:50,339 --> 00:50:53,384 You feel like you're being directed, like you're in the hands of the director. 1054 00:50:53,467 --> 00:50:55,928 I love it when a director knows exactly what he wants 1055 00:50:56,011 --> 00:50:58,097 and he says, "Look, this is what I want." 1056 00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:02,268 Okay, cool. You got hired to direct me, I got hired to act. 1057 00:51:04,103 --> 00:51:07,982 I was around lowriders and gangsters, and I was around hip-hop. 1058 00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:09,900 With both of those comes girls. 1059 00:51:10,985 --> 00:51:12,236 LA culture. 1060 00:51:12,778 --> 00:51:15,406 Like, I get Estevan's book. Wow. 1061 00:51:22,621 --> 00:51:26,250 I always thought my dad's work was very inspiring. 1062 00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:31,005 For girls, like, he just captures beauty, like, so perfectly. 1063 00:51:35,217 --> 00:51:37,136 A lot of the art too comes from jail, 1064 00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:39,388 where guys are sitting in a cell 1065 00:51:39,471 --> 00:51:41,682 and fantasizing about their girl. 1066 00:51:42,224 --> 00:51:43,517 I always looked at it 1067 00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:46,437 as really uplifting women. 1068 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,189 They may not have any clothes on, or they'd be topless. 1069 00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:52,776 I think as an artist, I always looked at the beauty of it, 1070 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,237 but knowing who to shoot, 1071 00:51:55,946 --> 00:51:58,282 where to shoot, when to shoot, 1072 00:51:58,365 --> 00:52:00,659 you look at that, you're like, "That shit's real." 1073 00:52:01,368 --> 00:52:02,995 If I wasn't shooting LA culture, 1074 00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:05,831 I was going on tour with bands like Blink-182, 1075 00:52:05,914 --> 00:52:07,875 only I wasn't a road manager anymore. 1076 00:52:08,709 --> 00:52:12,171 Right about the time we went on that tour to Iraq and Europe, 1077 00:52:12,254 --> 00:52:14,506 touring was, like, more fun when you brought friends. 1078 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:17,468 Having Estevan out there was so fun. 1079 00:52:17,551 --> 00:52:20,179 It is freezing like a motherfucker in Paris. 1080 00:52:20,262 --> 00:52:23,349 The tour that Estevan came with us in Europe 1081 00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:26,393 was a very difficult time 1082 00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:27,811 in Blink's history. 1083 00:52:27,895 --> 00:52:29,271 We were arguing... 1084 00:52:30,564 --> 00:52:31,565 the entire tour. 1085 00:52:31,649 --> 00:52:33,859 Leave me fucking be! I'm fucking tired! 1086 00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:43,077 - How was that? - It was the shit. 1087 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,912 - That was fun, right? - Hell, yeah. 1088 00:52:46,288 --> 00:52:50,376 The last show that we played before the band broke up the first time, 1089 00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,670 we finished the last note, and I thought to myself, 1090 00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:56,006 "This is probably gonna be the last show. This feels like the end of something." 1091 00:52:56,090 --> 00:52:58,175 And Estevan came on stage and said, 1092 00:52:58,258 --> 00:53:00,135 "Hey, I wanna get a shot of the three of you guys." 1093 00:53:00,219 --> 00:53:01,970 And it's actually on our Greatest Hits album 1094 00:53:02,054 --> 00:53:03,222 that came out after that. 1095 00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:07,518 It goes back to Estevan's ethos 1096 00:53:07,601 --> 00:53:09,645 of putting himself in these situations 1097 00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:13,357 where he is able to document things that are happening with other people. 1098 00:53:25,035 --> 00:53:28,497 The United States and our allies have prevailed. 1099 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:32,876 Estevan came with us when we went overseas 1100 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,629 to the Middle East to meet and perform for the troops. 1101 00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:40,134 When we got to Iraq, everyone was kind of shook about going there 1102 00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,510 'cause the war had just started. 1103 00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:43,387 I don't have any idea what to expect. 1104 00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:45,055 I'm just going in, having this adventure. 1105 00:53:45,139 --> 00:53:46,348 It's really cool. 1106 00:53:46,432 --> 00:53:47,975 It was scary, 1107 00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,977 it was hot, it was dusty. 1108 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,396 It was like five or six days 1109 00:53:52,479 --> 00:53:54,732 of being transported to an entirely different world. 1110 00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:55,983 It's like a movie. 1111 00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:57,818 We were on a nuclear submarine 1112 00:53:57,901 --> 00:54:01,238 literally crawling in the torpedo tubes. 1113 00:54:02,865 --> 00:54:06,535 So that whole trip was fireworks. It was scary as fuck. 1114 00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:08,412 It was definitely an eye-opening experience. 1115 00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:09,788 Travis, what's your job, Travis? 1116 00:54:09,872 --> 00:54:11,915 -I play the drums. -Drummer, all right. How are you? 1117 00:54:11,999 --> 00:54:13,667 Don't hit the torpedo buttons. 1118 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:15,794 You fire torpedoes? You shot one? 1119 00:54:15,878 --> 00:54:17,337 - I shot one. - Cool. 1120 00:54:17,629 --> 00:54:21,508 We were in a marine forward base on the border of Iraq. 1121 00:54:21,592 --> 00:54:24,094 We got Blink-182 in the house! 1122 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,474 - Don't turn the key on. - I won't. 1123 00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:30,225 I guess things were getting heated, 1124 00:54:30,768 --> 00:54:32,269 so we took a COD plane 1125 00:54:32,352 --> 00:54:33,729 that boomeranged us 1126 00:54:33,812 --> 00:54:35,981 off of the aircraft carrier. 1127 00:54:36,064 --> 00:54:38,442 But it was insane. I was really glad that he was there 1128 00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:39,735 to get those photos. 1129 00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:50,662 As a lot of photographers were breaking into digital photography, 1130 00:54:50,746 --> 00:54:53,207 Estevan stuck to film 1131 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,292 and the development process. 1132 00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:57,503 Because it's grainy and it looks like film, 1133 00:54:57,586 --> 00:54:59,963 it's a document of one specific moment. 1134 00:55:00,047 --> 00:55:02,716 Before you know it, you know, Estevan was doing more directing. 1135 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,927 Started to do mad videos for everybody. 1136 00:55:05,010 --> 00:55:07,387 ♪ Hold you down ♪ 1137 00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:12,059 Estevan did the first D12 video we ever shot. 1138 00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:15,646 It was supposed to be a gritty, grimy-looking video, 1139 00:55:15,729 --> 00:55:18,232 and Estevan captured that perfectly. 1140 00:55:20,442 --> 00:55:22,945 I know we shot the outside of the house, the Dresden house, 1141 00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:25,989 but I'm pretty sure we shot the inside of it too. 1142 00:55:26,073 --> 00:55:27,574 I'm like, "Yeah, that's the bathroom." 1143 00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:33,747 It wasn't really a lot of fun dressing up... 1144 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,083 like Richard Simmons. 1145 00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,585 But, hey, man, at that point in time, 1146 00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:40,462 I was doing whatever it took. 1147 00:55:40,546 --> 00:55:42,631 He directed a couple of Cypress videos. 1148 00:55:42,714 --> 00:55:44,716 ♪ Hello, my name is Dr. Greenthumb ♪ 1149 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,052 ♪ Hello, my name is Dr. Greenthumb ♪ 1150 00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:48,262 ♪ I'd like to tell you... ♪ 1151 00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:51,598 You know, we had the same ideas, we grew up in the same part of the planet, 1152 00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:54,059 so it wasn't hard for him to know what we were gonna like 1153 00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:55,644 and what we wanted to see in our videos. 1154 00:55:55,727 --> 00:55:58,063 ♪ Hello, my name is Dr. Greenthumb ♪ 1155 00:55:58,146 --> 00:56:00,774 And then, when we went down to Mexico City, in DF, 1156 00:56:01,275 --> 00:56:03,819 we had thousands and thousands of kids following us 1157 00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:04,945 on the street that day, 1158 00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:06,154 and in the midst of it all, 1159 00:56:06,238 --> 00:56:08,740 Estevan was on point the whole time with the camera, you know. 1160 00:56:08,824 --> 00:56:11,118 ♪ Here is something you can't understand ♪ 1161 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:13,161 He understood what made a good story 1162 00:56:13,245 --> 00:56:15,455 and he understood what was authentic. 1163 00:56:19,585 --> 00:56:20,544 I like that. 1164 00:56:20,627 --> 00:56:22,671 I'll tell you when, just keep the light on him 1165 00:56:22,754 --> 00:56:24,214 so when I sweep back around-- 1166 00:56:24,423 --> 00:56:26,133 With this video, it was an idea 1167 00:56:26,216 --> 00:56:29,136 that was thought out by the director, Estevan Oriol. 1168 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:31,889 He directed this video that really shook everything up. 1169 00:56:31,972 --> 00:56:33,932 It was really like, "What in the world?" 1170 00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:35,684 Like it's the real deal. 1171 00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:39,229 Having him come in and direct a video for us 1172 00:56:39,313 --> 00:56:41,690 just, I don't know, brought a really element of cool 1173 00:56:41,773 --> 00:56:43,442 that I think was really ahead of its time. 1174 00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:47,613 That shit was, like, really amazing. Just the way he-- His style. 1175 00:56:48,363 --> 00:56:51,992 The "Down" video was fun. It was the first time I ever met Trigz. 1176 00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:56,288 It was I think the first time we ever brought Mark and Tom to the hood. 1177 00:56:56,371 --> 00:56:58,373 I think they were tripping a little bit. 1178 00:56:58,916 --> 00:57:02,002 He put me in the Blink-182 video. 1179 00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:02,961 As a cop. 1180 00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:04,922 What I loved was the authenticity. 1181 00:57:05,005 --> 00:57:07,925 Here was an example of the culture 1182 00:57:08,008 --> 00:57:09,801 needing another voice. 1183 00:57:09,885 --> 00:57:11,637 Here I was this cop after this guy, 1184 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,597 he's on the run, and there was a helicopter. 1185 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,641 You know, shot in the LA Basin and... 1186 00:57:15,724 --> 00:57:17,517 There were people in the video 1187 00:57:17,601 --> 00:57:19,561 that looked like for real LA. 1188 00:57:21,021 --> 00:57:24,066 But that was fun, man, that video came out so cool and it had... 1189 00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:27,027 just a different energy than anything we ever did and... 1190 00:57:27,527 --> 00:57:29,863 Estevan just really killed the visual. 1191 00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:46,338 You ready? Let's set up the shot. 1192 00:57:46,421 --> 00:57:48,006 Are you gonna sit on the chair? 1193 00:57:48,131 --> 00:57:49,800 - Can I direct? - Yes, sir. 1194 00:57:49,883 --> 00:57:51,510 Don't follow me. You're gonna be on the shot. 1195 00:57:51,593 --> 00:57:54,262 - Tell me what you're gonna do. - I'm gonna make a documentary 1196 00:57:54,346 --> 00:57:55,806 and talk about the Sixth Street Bridge. 1197 00:57:55,889 --> 00:57:57,349 - Ready? - Yes. 1198 00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:59,476 Okay, so, we're sitting right here 1199 00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:02,729 at what was formerly known as the Sixth Street Bridge. 1200 00:58:02,938 --> 00:58:04,982 So you see these pieces right here? 1201 00:58:05,899 --> 00:58:08,860 There was two arches. They were part of the bridge. 1202 00:58:08,944 --> 00:58:10,028 That's them now. 1203 00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:13,365 I have 20 years of photos 1204 00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:15,158 of this street 1205 00:58:15,242 --> 00:58:17,661 and where this bridge was, and that bridge. 1206 00:58:17,744 --> 00:58:19,037 And they're gonna redo it. 1207 00:58:19,121 --> 00:58:21,248 They're gonna have a poodle park here, 1208 00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:23,542 a cappuccino bar, a juice bar. 1209 00:58:23,625 --> 00:58:25,377 This whole area is changing. 1210 00:58:29,381 --> 00:58:32,843 This was the access way to the LA River. 1211 00:58:33,176 --> 00:58:35,512 And this was like our playground, our stomping ground. 1212 00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:39,016 I had a lot of good photo shoots here, a lot of good times. 1213 00:58:39,224 --> 00:58:40,225 Get it out of the street. 1214 00:58:40,308 --> 00:58:44,021 I was shooting a lot of women, gangsters, and lowriders, 1215 00:58:44,104 --> 00:58:46,064 'cause, you know, that's what I was around. 1216 00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:50,902 ♪ Aye, baby, aye, baby ♪ 1217 00:58:50,986 --> 00:58:54,197 ♪ Aye, baby, get some bubblegum In this motherfucker or somethin'... ♪ 1218 00:58:54,281 --> 00:58:56,783 I don't know what it is about California, man. 1219 00:58:57,325 --> 00:59:01,413 Don't let the palm trees and the white picket fences fool you. 1220 00:59:01,496 --> 00:59:03,498 There's wrought iron on the windows 1221 00:59:03,582 --> 00:59:06,043 and the murder rate is through the roof, you know. 1222 00:59:07,461 --> 00:59:09,421 Perrito, don't worry about nothing. I got this. 1223 00:59:09,504 --> 00:59:10,589 Are we keeping score? 1224 00:59:13,425 --> 00:59:14,384 Hey, man. 1225 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,929 Pass already, dog. 1226 00:59:18,847 --> 00:59:21,892 I was shooting this girl that was a gang member. 1227 00:59:21,975 --> 00:59:23,268 She just threw up LA. 1228 00:59:23,351 --> 00:59:24,311 LA, baby. 1229 00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:27,481 And I went in and just took two frames of the LA. 1230 00:59:27,564 --> 00:59:29,941 ♪ I got bitches in the living room Gettin' it on... ♪ 1231 00:59:30,025 --> 00:59:32,110 He caught it first. A lot of the photographers 1232 00:59:32,194 --> 00:59:36,573 didn't know some of that type of finger lingo, if you will, you know, 1233 00:59:36,656 --> 00:59:38,408 when you throw up the West Coast 1234 00:59:38,492 --> 00:59:40,911 or you throw up LA, whatever clique you're from. 1235 00:59:40,994 --> 00:59:43,205 A lot of people didn't wanna use that photo. 1236 00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:45,040 They said it was too gang-related. 1237 00:59:45,123 --> 00:59:46,541 At that time, 1238 00:59:46,625 --> 00:59:49,211 if the wrong person saw you doing that, 1239 00:59:49,294 --> 00:59:52,089 you'd get beat up, or shot at or fucking stabbed. 1240 00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:53,590 Throwing up the L and the A like that, 1241 00:59:53,673 --> 00:59:55,509 that was something that we did back in the day. 1242 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:58,428 And that was the first representation of it. 1243 00:59:58,512 --> 01:00:01,014 Now it's a global thing where kids in other countries 1244 01:00:01,098 --> 01:00:03,391 send me pictures of them throwing up that sign. 1245 01:00:03,475 --> 01:00:05,143 That's pretty cool, man. You know what I mean? 1246 01:00:05,227 --> 01:00:06,645 His LA hands photo? 1247 01:00:06,728 --> 01:00:07,687 That's Estevan. 1248 01:00:07,771 --> 01:00:10,273 That shit's been copied so much. 1249 01:00:10,690 --> 01:00:12,651 So many times. Ripped off. 1250 01:00:12,734 --> 01:00:14,277 Many have tried to bite it. 1251 01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:16,863 I see the LA hands, and I know it's a bootleg. 1252 01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:18,949 Starbucks is ripping him off. Gosh! 1253 01:00:19,032 --> 01:00:20,200 The H&M thing? 1254 01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:22,786 To steal from artists like that, their images. 1255 01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:24,037 They have it on T-shirts. 1256 01:00:24,287 --> 01:00:26,915 The LA symbol's notorious. 1257 01:00:26,998 --> 01:00:29,668 Everybody, you know, and their mom, was doing it. 1258 01:00:29,751 --> 01:00:31,920 - The Mayor's throwing it up. - Boom! 1259 01:00:32,003 --> 01:00:35,590 People gonna copy it, people gonna try it, but we all know where it came from. 1260 01:00:35,674 --> 01:00:39,469 I advise everybody to dig into the roots of anything they do 1261 01:00:39,553 --> 01:00:42,931 and see where it came from and pay homage to the person before them. 1262 01:00:43,014 --> 01:00:45,767 It was iconic. It's an iconic picture. 1263 01:00:49,104 --> 01:00:52,899 One of the things that is there with Chicano art 1264 01:00:52,983 --> 01:00:54,192 is violence, 1265 01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:55,986 is poverty, 1266 01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:57,821 is addiction, 1267 01:00:58,405 --> 01:00:59,823 alcoholism. 1268 01:01:05,412 --> 01:01:08,248 When I met Estevan, I was struggling through a lot of relapses. 1269 01:01:08,331 --> 01:01:12,169 We were in a motel, and I called Estevan. I go, "Hey, I'm on a good one, man. 1270 01:01:12,252 --> 01:01:14,504 You wanna film some footage? So why don't you come on through, 1271 01:01:14,588 --> 01:01:16,840 because we got it going on real good right here." 1272 01:01:16,923 --> 01:01:19,676 I had every drug in my system, 'cause I don't discriminate. 1273 01:01:19,759 --> 01:01:21,469 I just went on a binge. 1274 01:01:21,553 --> 01:01:23,972 A simple binge. Everybody does it once in a while. 1275 01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:27,225 You know, some people binge on donuts. Some people binge on heroin. 1276 01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:30,478 This is some new shit I came across. 1277 01:01:31,605 --> 01:01:33,481 These are five-dollar bolsas. 1278 01:01:33,732 --> 01:01:35,150 I love it. There's no excuse. 1279 01:01:35,233 --> 01:01:37,861 I love to get high on this. I love the feeling I get from it. 1280 01:01:39,863 --> 01:01:42,616 If you don't cook it right, it fucks your stomach good. 1281 01:01:48,371 --> 01:01:50,498 This is the picture they took of the heroin 1282 01:01:50,582 --> 01:01:53,627 that wasn't getting me high no more with the syringe, the crack pipe, 1283 01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:55,962 and I don't know why I had the nail clipper there. 1284 01:01:56,046 --> 01:01:57,255 God only knows, right? 1285 01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:03,303 Estevan could take me into the lab 1286 01:02:03,386 --> 01:02:05,513 and pull out all these pictures and I'll go, 1287 01:02:05,597 --> 01:02:08,475 "What the fuck? Are you serious, bro?" 1288 01:02:12,437 --> 01:02:15,023 I looked like an Ethiopian research monkey. 1289 01:02:17,692 --> 01:02:19,486 I don't even know why I'm alive today. 1290 01:02:19,569 --> 01:02:22,030 For some good reason, the good Lord didn't drop me 1291 01:02:22,113 --> 01:02:23,406 and put me on my back. 1292 01:02:23,490 --> 01:02:25,700 Sometimes, I sell real shit. Sometimes-- 1293 01:02:26,493 --> 01:02:29,037 And I was in a bad stage right here. 1294 01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:31,498 And those are balloons of heroin in my mouth. 1295 01:02:31,623 --> 01:02:33,667 I sell fake shit. All this is fake. 1296 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:34,626 This is all fake. 1297 01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:36,753 Either way, this is getting sold, all right? 1298 01:02:36,836 --> 01:02:39,089 Because, see, you can't buy drugs on the street. 1299 01:02:39,172 --> 01:02:41,341 That's illegal. You can't sell them. It's illegal. 1300 01:02:41,424 --> 01:02:43,635 There's no drugs in here. So it's a bungle case. 1301 01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:46,096 So the proof is in the pudding, ladies and gentlemen. 1302 01:02:46,554 --> 01:02:48,390 If you wanna know the real street culture 1303 01:02:48,473 --> 01:02:51,059 and that street life, open one of Estevan's books. 1304 01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:54,271 And this is where it leads to. Everything leads to this picture. 1305 01:02:54,813 --> 01:02:56,648 This is 2003, 1306 01:02:56,731 --> 01:02:58,984 July 9th or 8th, I believe. 1307 01:02:59,067 --> 01:03:02,404 I got shot in front of the Econo Lodge hotel. 1308 01:03:02,487 --> 01:03:05,490 From where you're at, from where the camera's at, they shot me six times. 1309 01:03:05,573 --> 01:03:06,866 I took five bullets there. 1310 01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:08,910 And they came and told me I didn't have insurance, 1311 01:03:08,994 --> 01:03:12,080 so five days after that, I walked out, caught walking pneumonia, almost died, 1312 01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:15,125 and then went back and had to stay another additional 30 days. 1313 01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:18,295 See? Karma hits, 'cause I was supposed to be doing Estevan a favor 1314 01:03:18,378 --> 01:03:19,337 and moving somebody. 1315 01:03:19,421 --> 01:03:20,672 See how that works? 1316 01:03:20,964 --> 01:03:23,550 The '90s were very, very violent. 1317 01:03:23,633 --> 01:03:26,136 You saw the peak of gang violence. 1318 01:03:26,386 --> 01:03:30,098 You saw people that were there that seen enemies they didn't like, 1319 01:03:30,181 --> 01:03:31,975 they just took off on them right there. 1320 01:03:32,058 --> 01:03:34,561 You could hear the bullets going by. 1321 01:03:36,021 --> 01:03:38,481 They were trying to stop here, homie. They were coming too fast. 1322 01:03:38,565 --> 01:03:41,901 So they stopped right here. And they went just like, "Hey, homie." 1323 01:03:42,944 --> 01:03:44,070 Man! 1324 01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:45,530 I hit the floor quick, eh. 1325 01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:47,115 Why were they shooting at you? 1326 01:03:47,198 --> 01:03:48,908 See, this is a black neighborhood, right? 1327 01:03:48,992 --> 01:03:51,703 I guess they're going at it with a Hispanic gang over there. 1328 01:03:52,245 --> 01:03:53,705 You know what I mean? Look at me, dog. 1329 01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:57,292 - Look right here, homie. - Yeah. 1330 01:03:58,460 --> 01:03:59,711 ♪ Word up, son, word ♪ 1331 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,758 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1332 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,302 ♪ To all the killers And the hundred-dollar billers ♪ 1333 01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:09,554 ♪ Yo, I got the phone thing Know I'm sayin' ♪ 1334 01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:12,849 ♪ For real niggas Who ain't got no feelings, feelings... ♪ 1335 01:04:13,099 --> 01:04:14,225 You like that. 1336 01:04:14,768 --> 01:04:17,020 ♪ Just watch my back I got the front, yo ♪ 1337 01:04:17,103 --> 01:04:18,438 ♪ Check it out now ♪ 1338 01:04:18,521 --> 01:04:19,689 Right there, West Los. 1339 01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:20,940 School of hard knocks. 1340 01:04:21,024 --> 01:04:22,233 Sometimes hard rocks. 1341 01:04:22,317 --> 01:04:24,110 Hard knocks and cooked rocks. 1342 01:04:24,194 --> 01:04:26,154 From stealin' and dealin' to rollin' and chillin'. 1343 01:04:26,237 --> 01:04:28,323 Smack. Oh, ready. 1344 01:04:28,948 --> 01:04:30,408 ♪ Queensbridge murderers ♪ 1345 01:04:30,492 --> 01:04:32,786 ♪ The Mobb comes equipped for warfare Beware ♪ 1346 01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:34,329 ♪ Of my crime family who got... ♪ 1347 01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:36,831 My eagle right here, 'cause I'm Mexican-American. 1348 01:04:36,915 --> 01:04:39,250 I'm American-made, Mexican descent. 1349 01:04:39,334 --> 01:04:40,919 ♪ Your brain with your nose bone ♪ 1350 01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:43,546 ♪ You all alone in these streets, cousin Every man... ♪ 1351 01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:46,508 They call me Speedy, one of my fans gave me the name. 1352 01:04:46,841 --> 01:04:48,718 In there, the tattoo shop is your cell. 1353 01:04:48,802 --> 01:04:51,471 Just a couple of cases of soups and coffee, man, from prison. 1354 01:04:51,554 --> 01:04:54,432 That's what they charge you in there to do this type of thing. 1355 01:04:54,516 --> 01:04:57,602 Nowadays I guess that's just a way to look cool, but... 1356 01:04:57,685 --> 01:04:59,020 All these tattoos right here? 1357 01:04:59,104 --> 01:05:00,480 They were basically earned, 1358 01:05:00,563 --> 01:05:02,941 they were basically put on me for a reason. 1359 01:05:03,441 --> 01:05:05,819 All my tattoos were done in prison, single needle. 1360 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:07,237 Never got tattooed in a shop. 1361 01:05:08,029 --> 01:05:11,199 They were kind of like the old black and gray feel to the ink. 1362 01:05:11,282 --> 01:05:13,159 ♪ Don't make me Have to call your name out... ♪ 1363 01:05:13,243 --> 01:05:16,079 Some tattoos that some people have, they put them on 1364 01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:19,207 because maybe they were in a lifestyle where a life was lost. 1365 01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:21,167 Not to say that they took the life, 1366 01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,420 because we're not gonna say that 'cause we're on camera. 1367 01:05:24,003 --> 01:05:27,048 When I sleeve somebody, they can't go into regular society, 1368 01:05:27,132 --> 01:05:30,260 but little by little, those people will be business owners. 1369 01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,721 You know, over the next 10, 20 years, those people that are getting sleeves 1370 01:05:33,805 --> 01:05:36,474 will be business owners and shit will change up for them. 1371 01:05:37,225 --> 01:05:40,854 That's okay. It's a trend now. We got the soccer moms putting tattoos on. 1372 01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:43,064 They're doing shit that we were looked down on. 1373 01:05:43,148 --> 01:05:45,692 We were putting these tattoos 'cause we were outcasts, 1374 01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:48,153 because society rejected us. 1375 01:05:48,236 --> 01:05:51,114 Now they're putting them on because now society accepts it? 1376 01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:53,783 So now I might just start taking them all off. 1377 01:05:56,703 --> 01:05:59,205 We're interested in the darkest shit in life. 1378 01:05:59,414 --> 01:06:01,374 Ghetto bird in the sky... 1379 01:06:02,417 --> 01:06:04,919 homeless shit and drug addicts. 1380 01:06:05,295 --> 01:06:08,631 Watching and observing those cultures, you know what I mean? 1381 01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,885 What happened to your hand? You got arthritis? 1382 01:06:11,968 --> 01:06:14,387 No, I-- My ex-boyfriend broke it. 1383 01:06:14,471 --> 01:06:15,472 Oh, okay. 1384 01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:18,391 Okay, look, if you go out this way, and go on the side, 1385 01:06:18,475 --> 01:06:21,436 go straight all the way down, there's a little alley right there. 1386 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:22,896 I'll go check it out. 1387 01:06:23,021 --> 01:06:24,647 - Take it easy. - Bye, thank you. 1388 01:06:25,815 --> 01:06:28,568 When you're in the streets in LA, in the bad neighborhoods, 1389 01:06:28,651 --> 01:06:30,320 it's like your blood is flowing, 1390 01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:32,739 the adrenaline is there. 1391 01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:37,327 When you know that it's an active area and some shit might happen, 1392 01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:40,997 it's kind of like, okay, cool, you know, you gotta be on point, you know. 1393 01:06:41,206 --> 01:06:43,166 Open the eyes on the back of your head, 1394 01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:46,377 'cause if you're just walking around all "ladi da, da," 1395 01:06:46,461 --> 01:06:48,379 you know, like an idiot, you could lose that way. 1396 01:06:48,463 --> 01:06:50,798 They're just looking for someone to fuck with, so... 1397 01:06:50,882 --> 01:06:52,550 Right here, you know what I'm saying? 1398 01:06:52,967 --> 01:06:54,469 Just gotta make sure you're strapped. 1399 01:06:55,261 --> 01:06:57,514 A lot of people we've known have died. 1400 01:06:58,598 --> 01:07:00,433 Can't even think of how that would be 1401 01:07:00,517 --> 01:07:01,976 if Cartoon passed away. 1402 01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:10,193 We've had to make out wills before, 1403 01:07:10,276 --> 01:07:13,029 and it was, like, the will went to, like, each other. 1404 01:07:13,321 --> 01:07:15,281 We would look out for each other's family. 1405 01:07:16,616 --> 01:07:19,536 Let's see what we have here in this little box. 1406 01:07:20,662 --> 01:07:23,957 This is my friend Mono. He passed away. 1407 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:28,211 He's the guy that introduced me and my wife to each other. 1408 01:07:28,294 --> 01:07:29,170 Oh, yeah? 1409 01:07:29,254 --> 01:07:31,256 And he introduced Cartoon to his wife. 1410 01:07:32,632 --> 01:07:35,760 Right here, this is one of my favorite pictures of all times. 1411 01:07:35,843 --> 01:07:37,220 His name was Chato. 1412 01:07:37,303 --> 01:07:38,930 Rest in peace. He died. 1413 01:07:39,347 --> 01:07:40,723 Trigz got shot. 1414 01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:44,644 He got murdered 'cause he got into a fight with somebody. 1415 01:07:44,727 --> 01:07:46,312 Rest in peace. 1416 01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:49,482 This was another guy that was shot. His name was Nene. 1417 01:07:50,817 --> 01:07:53,361 I think he got shot 33 times. 1418 01:07:53,444 --> 01:07:55,738 - What happened to him? - He died. 1419 01:07:56,990 --> 01:07:59,075 You know, I think they're living the life they wanted to 1420 01:07:59,158 --> 01:08:01,452 and they died doing what they loved doing. 1421 01:08:01,536 --> 01:08:05,039 Those guys were gangsters and they died doing some gangster shit. 1422 01:08:05,123 --> 01:08:07,750 So you think they kind of dig being a gangster. 1423 01:08:07,834 --> 01:08:08,793 They'd rather do that-- 1424 01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:11,254 Yeah, they loved it, or else they wouldn't have been a gangster. 1425 01:08:12,672 --> 01:08:15,800 ♪ I spend my time in the hood ♪ 1426 01:08:15,883 --> 01:08:19,804 ♪ That old Florencia district ♪ 1427 01:08:20,847 --> 01:08:23,600 ♪ I don't play games ♪ 1428 01:08:23,683 --> 01:08:25,685 ♪ And if you ask for it ♪ 1429 01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:29,230 ♪ I carry an AK-47 ♪ 1430 01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:32,942 ♪ I was shot five times ♪ 1431 01:08:33,067 --> 01:08:36,696 ♪ And almost lost my life ♪ 1432 01:08:37,697 --> 01:08:40,199 ♪ At the gates of hell ♪ 1433 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,370 ♪ A smiling Devil awaits ♪ 1434 01:08:44,996 --> 01:08:48,166 ♪ These are facts of life ♪ 1435 01:08:48,708 --> 01:08:53,421 ♪ Consequences of this life ♪ 1436 01:08:54,255 --> 01:08:59,594 ♪ Because everything Must be paid for in this world ♪ 1437 01:09:00,345 --> 01:09:05,350 ♪ I spend my time smoking With my homies in the hood ♪ 1438 01:09:05,516 --> 01:09:08,561 ♪ I come from that gangster clique ♪ 1439 01:09:08,645 --> 01:09:11,230 ♪ Don't you dare betray us ♪ 1440 01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,858 ♪ I am a man of respect ♪ 1441 01:09:13,941 --> 01:09:16,444 ♪ And my word is worth a lot ♪ 1442 01:09:16,527 --> 01:09:19,155 ♪ Around Converse and Miramonte ♪ 1443 01:09:19,238 --> 01:09:21,866 ♪ I patrol through the night ♪ 1444 01:09:32,919 --> 01:09:36,756 ♪ Oh, darling ♪ 1445 01:09:39,217 --> 01:09:43,846 ♪ I'm so blue and lonely ♪ 1446 01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:51,354 ♪ Want your love here only ♪ 1447 01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:56,275 ♪ Please... ♪ 1448 01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,778 That violence, that poverty, 1449 01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,321 that madness, 1450 01:10:00,697 --> 01:10:02,573 spawned a beautiful art form 1451 01:10:02,657 --> 01:10:04,367 of music, and tattoos, 1452 01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:06,369 and wall murals, 1453 01:10:06,452 --> 01:10:08,955 pinstripe, and gold leaf. 1454 01:10:09,038 --> 01:10:12,417 Those guys sitting in cells that will never get out 1455 01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,378 helped shape an art form, 1456 01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:18,172 this rose out of a crack in the concrete. 1457 01:10:18,756 --> 01:10:21,843 Now you have a new wave of Chicano artists 1458 01:10:21,926 --> 01:10:24,262 that can focus on Chicano pride. 1459 01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:27,807 To be Chicano means identifying with your roots. 1460 01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,684 The number one thing is family. 1461 01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:30,685 It's all about family. 1462 01:10:32,645 --> 01:10:35,398 ♪ I want to hold you ♪ 1463 01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:37,984 ♪ Squeeze you... ♪ 1464 01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:40,945 You don't really hear about the heart of a Chicano, 1465 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,364 but you can see it in a lowrider. 1466 01:10:43,448 --> 01:10:44,991 The way we build our cars, 1467 01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:48,119 they're old Benny's thrown away that we pick up and we shine. 1468 01:10:48,661 --> 01:10:51,330 It's almost like watching a Chicano's heart 1469 01:10:51,414 --> 01:10:53,541 being poured out onto paint 1470 01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:56,878 and coating a vehicle with love, you know? 1471 01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:01,424 Those people that threw them away wish they had them back 1472 01:11:01,507 --> 01:11:04,427 after they see them all fixed up and clean and shined up. 1473 01:11:04,886 --> 01:11:07,263 You don't own a lowrider. You are a lowrider. 1474 01:11:07,388 --> 01:11:10,183 Promoting a great culture in America. 1475 01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:13,144 There are people that are incredibly wealthy 1476 01:11:13,227 --> 01:11:16,147 that actually know the culture 1477 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,691 and are admirers of the culture. 1478 01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:21,068 The culture grew to places 1479 01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:22,445 like Japan, Europe, 1480 01:11:22,528 --> 01:11:23,780 South America. 1481 01:11:23,863 --> 01:11:26,449 They introduced the whole rest of the world basically 1482 01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:28,326 to the East LA esthetic. 1483 01:11:34,665 --> 01:11:37,752 You go to Japan and you see some of the Japanese kids 1484 01:11:37,835 --> 01:11:39,587 dressing like cholos. 1485 01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:41,172 To the T. 1486 01:11:41,255 --> 01:11:43,049 You would think, they could put on glasses 1487 01:11:43,132 --> 01:11:46,469 and have the whole thing and they could look all "Chicanoed-out" 1488 01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:48,471 until they started to speak. 1489 01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,223 Sheeba city ghetto family. 1490 01:11:52,225 --> 01:11:54,477 Asian culture has become obsessed 1491 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,896 with East LA and lowriding. 1492 01:11:56,979 --> 01:12:00,358 There's a big lowrider scene that's gone around the world. 1493 01:12:01,859 --> 01:12:06,531 Because of what Cartoon and Estevan did with Chicano culture 1494 01:12:06,614 --> 01:12:11,202 and made it so pervasive and popular in Japanese subculture, 1495 01:12:11,285 --> 01:12:15,206 it made it even extra cool back here in the States. 1496 01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:19,126 And I think a lot of it comes from how pioneering these two gentlemen 1497 01:12:19,210 --> 01:12:20,670 have been to the culture. 1498 01:12:21,212 --> 01:12:26,259 We listen to oldies, we listen to Motown-style, classic soul. 1499 01:12:32,431 --> 01:12:36,352 Due to the weather on the West Coast, we wear T-shirts all year long. 1500 01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:38,479 We invented the white tee, 1501 01:12:38,563 --> 01:12:39,897 khakis and Dickies, 1502 01:12:39,981 --> 01:12:41,107 that whole look. 1503 01:12:42,066 --> 01:12:44,360 The West Coast grew up wearing Cortez shoes. 1504 01:12:45,069 --> 01:12:47,238 This is the staple for the West Coast. 1505 01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:49,991 In the '80s, though, it was like a gang-banging shoe. 1506 01:12:50,074 --> 01:12:52,702 Like, you wearing that shoe, people asked you, "Where are you from?" 1507 01:12:54,787 --> 01:12:57,582 I had meditated why it was relevant, 1508 01:12:57,665 --> 01:12:59,458 and why it had to be done. 1509 01:12:59,542 --> 01:13:01,377 My own Nike, period. 1510 01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:03,462 And once I got them in, 1511 01:13:03,546 --> 01:13:04,922 it was time to drop, 1512 01:13:05,006 --> 01:13:06,257 "I have to do a Cortez," 1513 01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:08,384 paying homage to that era, 1514 01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:10,344 to the NWA era. 1515 01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:12,263 When that happened, 1516 01:13:12,346 --> 01:13:15,224 I was like, "Man, this is fucking amazing. 1517 01:13:15,308 --> 01:13:18,561 I'm gonna design the shoe I grew up wearing." 1518 01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:21,856 It'd be like McDonald's calling you, and be like, 1519 01:13:21,939 --> 01:13:24,191 "You're gonna do your own signature Big Mac. 1520 01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:25,109 Get ready." 1521 01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:27,153 Nike is doing a Mister Cartoon shoe? 1522 01:13:27,236 --> 01:13:28,654 They're giving you a shoe? 1523 01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:30,114 And letting you design it? 1524 01:13:30,197 --> 01:13:31,282 It's-- It's crazy. 1525 01:13:31,365 --> 01:13:34,076 There's not a lot of artists out here to have their own Nike shoe. 1526 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,330 I walk into a business meeting with confidence. 1527 01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:40,499 I walk in like, "I'm-- The boss is here." 1528 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,336 And you convince the client 1529 01:13:43,836 --> 01:13:45,171 that you know what's poppin'. 1530 01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:47,590 This is inspiring to me. 1531 01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:51,135 I can apply that same philosophy to what I'm doing. 1532 01:13:51,218 --> 01:13:52,637 My homie did it, I can do it. 1533 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:53,846 Oh, wow. 1534 01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:57,642 Whoa, Mister Cartoon is completely crossing over to a different level, 1535 01:13:57,725 --> 01:13:58,559 you know? 1536 01:13:58,643 --> 01:14:01,520 I did the LA edition, which was putting the "LA" 1537 01:14:01,604 --> 01:14:03,773 and having the Nike check go through it. 1538 01:14:04,023 --> 01:14:06,609 The next one I did was the Aztec. 1539 01:14:06,692 --> 01:14:10,112 This was crazy because here I'm doing an Aztec 1540 01:14:10,196 --> 01:14:11,238 on a Cortez. 1541 01:14:11,322 --> 01:14:16,243 So you have the Spaniards coming to New Spain, which was Mexico, 1542 01:14:16,327 --> 01:14:17,995 to bring disease, 1543 01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:21,624 great war between the Spaniards and the Aztecs 1544 01:14:21,707 --> 01:14:24,585 to create Mexican people. 1545 01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:27,797 So, I had that on a shoe, which is a little heavy, 1546 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,799 you know what I'm saying? For a shoe design. 1547 01:14:30,174 --> 01:14:34,095 And then on the Aztec warrior, I put a brush mustache, 1548 01:14:34,178 --> 01:14:37,181 which is representative of the homies now. 1549 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:39,892 When it finally went through, 1550 01:14:40,142 --> 01:14:41,602 I was blown away. 1551 01:14:41,686 --> 01:14:45,398 I'm surprised every time one of these huge deals goes through. 1552 01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:47,233 So, to balance that, 1553 01:14:47,316 --> 01:14:49,610 it was important that I did outreach. 1554 01:14:50,236 --> 01:14:53,489 Talking to youngsters, explaining to them, 1555 01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:56,033 "Look, I went to LA Unified School, 1556 01:14:56,117 --> 01:14:57,493 and I designed my own shoe. 1557 01:14:57,576 --> 01:14:59,203 What would your shoe look like?" 1558 01:14:59,286 --> 01:15:01,872 And I would ask these kids, and they'd get all shy. 1559 01:15:01,956 --> 01:15:04,750 It's beautiful to see that Cartoon can set an example 1560 01:15:04,834 --> 01:15:05,918 for these young kids, 1561 01:15:06,127 --> 01:15:08,212 giving kids hope in art. 1562 01:15:08,295 --> 01:15:11,632 My goal was to motivate them and get them to think, 1563 01:15:11,716 --> 01:15:15,136 "Man, if this knucklehead can do it, man, I can design my own shoe." 1564 01:15:20,975 --> 01:15:22,059 What? 1565 01:15:22,143 --> 01:15:24,562 Motherfucking premiere of Machete. 1566 01:15:24,645 --> 01:15:27,231 Yeah, that was sweet, with the lowriders. 1567 01:15:27,732 --> 01:15:30,109 Seeing these big Hollywood events. 1568 01:15:30,192 --> 01:15:32,236 In the back on my mind, I was like, 1569 01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,280 "We can get a team together and do it." 1570 01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:35,322 We had the budgets. 1571 01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:37,241 And we were able to have some power 1572 01:15:37,825 --> 01:15:40,578 to do some of those events, and it came out dope. 1573 01:15:40,661 --> 01:15:41,954 And it was beautiful, man. 1574 01:15:42,038 --> 01:15:45,124 People in the street, happy that somebody's representing. 1575 01:15:45,207 --> 01:15:47,293 This is a historical moment right here. 1576 01:15:48,836 --> 01:15:50,546 We're taking our culture 1577 01:15:50,629 --> 01:15:51,839 and trying to lift it up. 1578 01:15:51,922 --> 01:15:55,092 It would be hard to be downtown that day 1579 01:15:55,176 --> 01:15:56,594 and not feel our presence. 1580 01:15:56,677 --> 01:15:58,512 We here. 1581 01:15:58,721 --> 01:16:01,057 Damn, man, we're bringing Chicano art 1582 01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:03,059 into places that it's never been before. 1583 01:16:04,435 --> 01:16:07,730 Shout-out to S.A. Studios. Grand Theft Auto, good looking. 1584 01:16:07,813 --> 01:16:12,401 GTA is the iconic video game that ended up becoming because of the Estev and Toon. 1585 01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:14,278 I played Cesar Vialpando. 1586 01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:17,823 We did all the tattoos, graffiti, 1587 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,366 murals, 1588 01:16:19,450 --> 01:16:20,493 liquor store, 1589 01:16:20,576 --> 01:16:23,370 and the Virgen de Guadalupe would be on the side. 1590 01:16:23,454 --> 01:16:25,122 Estevan would take them around 1591 01:16:25,206 --> 01:16:26,499 to all the sick shit 1592 01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:28,375 and fucking recreate that. 1593 01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,337 You've been on a trajectory 1594 01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:33,339 from the bottom-bottom, 1595 01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:35,216 and I guess prison, possibly. 1596 01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:38,094 You got out of that, survived that, 1597 01:16:38,177 --> 01:16:42,515 and you're on this uphill trajectory of perfecting this art form. 1598 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:45,851 It was a great time. Record businesses were still going. 1599 01:16:45,935 --> 01:16:47,812 And magazines were popping 1600 01:16:47,895 --> 01:16:52,650 and commercials were getting anywhere from 100,000 into the millions. 1601 01:16:52,733 --> 01:16:54,443 Then the digital age came. 1602 01:16:54,527 --> 01:16:56,695 It's over, and the Internet has allowed 1603 01:16:56,779 --> 01:16:59,031 global communication with a lot of people... 1604 01:16:59,115 --> 01:17:01,575 Twenty million people get their music this way. 1605 01:17:01,659 --> 01:17:04,161 -They worst offender is Napster. -Metallica filed a... 1606 01:17:04,245 --> 01:17:08,124 At that point, S.A. Studios, it was kind of like a barber shop. 1607 01:17:08,207 --> 01:17:11,043 People came by afterward and bullshitted. 1608 01:17:11,127 --> 01:17:16,465 That's what S.A. Studios felt like. A bunch of big-ass kids having fun. 1609 01:17:16,549 --> 01:17:17,758 "What's up, homie? 1610 01:17:17,842 --> 01:17:20,219 What you doing, man? What you've been up to?" 1611 01:17:20,302 --> 01:17:22,346 It'd be like showing up at a doctor's office. 1612 01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:23,931 You're like, "What's up, fool? 1613 01:17:24,014 --> 01:17:26,642 Yay, man. Wow, you're doing some surgery. What's up?" 1614 01:17:26,725 --> 01:17:28,561 Working on the ice-cream truck. 1615 01:17:28,644 --> 01:17:30,479 I'm gonna stay here until five, six in the morning. 1616 01:17:30,563 --> 01:17:31,981 I'll probably just go crash upstairs. 1617 01:17:32,064 --> 01:17:34,358 A little bit overwhelming for me. 1618 01:17:34,441 --> 01:17:37,403 I don't need a lot of people around to do what I do. 1619 01:17:37,862 --> 01:17:39,029 They're changing. 1620 01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:42,074 Life's about change. 1621 01:17:43,367 --> 01:17:44,910 After a rare week of gains-- 1622 01:17:44,994 --> 01:17:46,996 Worst one-day losses since 911. 1623 01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:48,539 The stock market fell hard-- 1624 01:17:48,622 --> 01:17:49,915 533,000-- 1625 01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:51,917 Two point six million people-- 1626 01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:54,712 In 2008 there was the depression. 1627 01:17:54,795 --> 01:17:57,298 The country just fell apart. 1628 01:17:57,381 --> 01:17:59,842 Spinning the economy in a vicious cycle, 1629 01:17:59,925 --> 01:18:01,218 people losing their jobs, 1630 01:18:01,302 --> 01:18:03,637 then falling behind on their mortgages. 1631 01:18:03,721 --> 01:18:06,557 Magazines shut down, record labels shut down. 1632 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,684 President Obama facing increasing pressure 1633 01:18:08,767 --> 01:18:10,102 for a new stimulus package. 1634 01:18:10,186 --> 01:18:11,770 All the budgets went away. 1635 01:18:11,854 --> 01:18:14,231 Eleven point three trillion dollars. 1636 01:18:14,315 --> 01:18:16,150 ...to stabilize the housing market, 1637 01:18:16,233 --> 01:18:18,861 and help responsible home-owners stay in their homes. 1638 01:18:18,986 --> 01:18:23,282 That cut at least 75% of my work that was coming in. 1639 01:18:23,866 --> 01:18:26,202 S.A. Studios was a certain time. 1640 01:18:26,285 --> 01:18:29,205 Everything evolves, and everything is a moment in time. 1641 01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:34,251 That whole place of downtown LA got over-gentrified in my opinion. 1642 01:18:34,627 --> 01:18:36,378 It became uncool. 1643 01:18:36,462 --> 01:18:38,464 It became very corporate. 1644 01:18:38,881 --> 01:18:41,425 If everything always stays the same, how special is it? 1645 01:18:41,508 --> 01:18:42,468 It's about moments. 1646 01:18:42,551 --> 01:18:45,638 Five years, ten years. However long that moment was. 1647 01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:48,307 The vibe. Something happened. 1648 01:18:48,807 --> 01:18:52,436 You have one guy who's in the profession of tattoos, 1649 01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:54,772 which has gone from, like, this fringe, 1650 01:18:54,855 --> 01:18:58,108 and now I don't know one fucking person who doesn't have a tattoo. 1651 01:18:58,192 --> 01:18:59,902 And then on this side of the spectrum, 1652 01:18:59,985 --> 01:19:02,571 you have photography, which was like this, and now it's, like, nothing. 1653 01:19:02,696 --> 01:19:04,990 Both things are symbiotic and feeding off each other. 1654 01:19:05,074 --> 01:19:08,160 But one of those things brings in a ton of cash, 1655 01:19:08,244 --> 01:19:10,579 and the other one, the cash is disappearing. 1656 01:19:10,663 --> 01:19:13,165 The tension that must bring between brothers... 1657 01:19:13,249 --> 01:19:14,166 Eventually... 1658 01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:15,668 it was gone. 1659 01:19:20,339 --> 01:19:22,132 The last time I'll ever be here. 1660 01:19:23,008 --> 01:19:24,468 We were here for 13 years. 1661 01:19:24,551 --> 01:19:28,973 We used to call our little thing here "Skid Row's finest" 1662 01:19:29,056 --> 01:19:32,059 because we were surrounded by the people of Skid Row. 1663 01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:34,436 And that's it. It's a wrap. 1664 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:35,771 S.A. Studios. 1665 01:19:35,896 --> 01:19:37,356 We're out of downtown. 1666 01:19:38,148 --> 01:19:39,024 Gone. 1667 01:19:40,276 --> 01:19:43,237 That was probably one of the most challenging times in my life. 1668 01:19:43,862 --> 01:19:44,947 And... 1669 01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:48,742 I made it, 'cause I'm a fighter. 1670 01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:51,161 That was it. 1671 01:19:52,037 --> 01:19:52,997 You got it? 1672 01:20:35,622 --> 01:20:37,958 ♪ Microphone checker Swinging sword lecture ♪ 1673 01:20:38,042 --> 01:20:40,210 ♪ Closing down the sector Supreme neck protector ♪ 1674 01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:42,588 ♪ Better warn 'em kid Mr. Method boiling pot ♪ 1675 01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:44,506 ♪ About to blow his lid From the pressure ♪ 1676 01:20:44,590 --> 01:20:46,091 ♪ Too hot for TV for sheezy ♪ 1677 01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:47,885 ♪ Too many wanna be hard be easy ♪ 1678 01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:50,095 ♪ It's all in together Going all out together ♪ 1679 01:20:50,179 --> 01:20:51,638 ♪ It don't take much to please me ♪ 1680 01:20:51,722 --> 01:20:53,474 -Congratulations. -Thank you. 1681 01:20:53,557 --> 01:20:56,435 ♪ We don't condone biting See them selling crossbones ♪ 1682 01:20:56,518 --> 01:20:58,854 ♪ Protecting what am writing Don't clash with the Titan ♪ 1683 01:20:58,937 --> 01:21:00,147 ♪ Who blast with a license... ♪ 1684 01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:03,525 To me, LA's the blood pumping through my veins. 1685 01:21:03,609 --> 01:21:04,777 I love everything about it. 1686 01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:06,028 ♪ Put your lights out ♪ 1687 01:21:06,111 --> 01:21:08,530 ♪ Get the shit to the cracking Got you feelin' with your... out ♪ 1688 01:21:08,614 --> 01:21:11,241 I mean, look at it. How fucking cool is that shit? 1689 01:21:11,325 --> 01:21:14,536 ♪ Where I used to battle crews Back when Antoinette had that attitude ♪ 1690 01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:16,663 ♪ Cover me, I'm going in Walls closing in ♪ 1691 01:21:16,747 --> 01:21:18,040 ♪ Got us busting off these... ♪ 1692 01:21:18,123 --> 01:21:19,750 ♪ My... got issues again ♪ 1693 01:21:19,833 --> 01:21:21,627 ♪ Same song, armed with the mega bomb ♪ 1694 01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:23,379 ♪ Blow you out the frame And then I'm gone ♪ 1695 01:21:24,922 --> 01:21:27,633 ♪ Look up in the sky It's a bird, it's a plane ♪ 1696 01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,968 ♪ It's the funk Doctor Spock Get on a train ♪ 1697 01:21:30,052 --> 01:21:31,095 ♪ How high? ♪ 1698 01:21:31,178 --> 01:21:33,389 ♪ So high that I can kiss the sky ♪ 1699 01:21:33,472 --> 01:21:35,808 ♪ So sick than you can suck my... ♪ 1700 01:21:40,646 --> 01:21:43,315 ♪ I was gone too, but we roam Cellular phones ♪ 1701 01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:44,858 ♪ Doc-Meth back in the flesh... ♪ 1702 01:21:45,234 --> 01:21:47,861 This is where I come and get all my film done right here. 1703 01:21:48,445 --> 01:21:50,906 ♪ Suckers break like Turbo and Ozone... ♪ 1704 01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:52,408 Oh, wow. 1705 01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:54,576 Wow, I got some good ones. 1706 01:21:56,286 --> 01:21:58,122 ♪ Three nines in the glove with Masu... ♪ 1707 01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:07,756 So, after 13 years, we've now relocated, 1708 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,259 and I'm gonna show you the new S.A. Studios. 1709 01:22:10,801 --> 01:22:13,846 Well, my part of it. Cartoon has a different part. 1710 01:22:15,347 --> 01:22:17,599 So... here we are. 1711 01:22:18,976 --> 01:22:20,477 S.A. Studios. 1712 01:22:25,315 --> 01:22:27,067 You can barely fit in here. 1713 01:22:28,026 --> 01:22:29,987 These are the new S.A. Studios. 1714 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,202 These are all bills that haven't been paid. 1715 01:22:37,703 --> 01:22:39,079 You know, just so everybody knows 1716 01:22:39,163 --> 01:22:42,374 what it's like to be a world-famous photographer. 1717 01:22:57,181 --> 01:22:59,141 Where am I today? I'm in a good place. 1718 01:22:59,725 --> 01:23:00,893 I'm an optimist. 1719 01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:03,854 I'm always gonna look at what's the solution, 1720 01:23:04,188 --> 01:23:06,190 what do I got to be grateful for, 1721 01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:07,941 how can I make this pop. 1722 01:23:09,610 --> 01:23:12,779 I haven't stopped one day since S.A. Studios. 1723 01:23:13,113 --> 01:23:15,032 I have a private studio right here. 1724 01:23:15,115 --> 01:23:17,576 I own this property. Can't kick me out. 1725 01:23:18,118 --> 01:23:19,870 And it's all dialed into my needs, 1726 01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:21,663 I airbrush the cars in here. 1727 01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:24,666 I've been here for five years now and... 1728 01:23:25,042 --> 01:23:25,918 I love it. 1729 01:23:31,798 --> 01:23:34,009 Attention! Attention! 1730 01:23:35,302 --> 01:23:37,346 There's our lovely Sixth Street Bridge. 1731 01:23:38,055 --> 01:23:39,306 No more. 1732 01:23:39,598 --> 01:23:41,725 So crazy to see all this shit. 1733 01:23:41,808 --> 01:23:44,102 Fucking changing so fast. 1734 01:23:45,437 --> 01:23:47,731 This is a mural by my friend Risky. 1735 01:23:47,814 --> 01:23:49,233 Everybody knows Risk. 1736 01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:51,777 This was a parking lot before. 1737 01:23:54,071 --> 01:23:55,739 Some metal rinky-dink buildings, 1738 01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:57,115 and now it's like... 1739 01:23:57,991 --> 01:24:00,786 the biggest fucking most... 1740 01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:04,831 apartments, fuck it, whatever you could get in there. 1741 01:24:05,499 --> 01:24:09,628 I don't feel like a victim. I feel like I'm on top of everything. 1742 01:24:09,711 --> 01:24:11,338 I'm on top of social media, 1743 01:24:11,421 --> 01:24:14,299 I know how to use Photoshop, I know how to use a computer. 1744 01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:15,926 I taught myself all that. 1745 01:24:16,343 --> 01:24:19,846 The guys that didn't do that, they probably feel overwhelmed. 1746 01:24:24,226 --> 01:24:27,229 And then I was trying to keep up with the Joneses, and, you know, 1747 01:24:27,312 --> 01:24:28,272 trying to post-- 1748 01:24:28,355 --> 01:24:29,523 I tried all that shit. 1749 01:24:29,606 --> 01:24:31,316 I tried to post hot girls, 1750 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,402 big celebrities, gangster stuff. 1751 01:24:33,485 --> 01:24:34,861 I tried to post everything 1752 01:24:34,945 --> 01:24:37,531 at certain times a day on certain days and I'm like, 1753 01:24:37,614 --> 01:24:39,825 "How the fuck does this guy have a million followers 1754 01:24:39,908 --> 01:24:43,078 and I got 115,000 or whatever?" You know? 1755 01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:46,123 Every time I'd think I was doing some big shit, good shit, 1756 01:24:46,206 --> 01:24:48,667 and I go, "Oh, I'm gonna show Instagram right now. 1757 01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:50,002 Fuck everybody." 1758 01:24:50,377 --> 01:24:52,796 You know. "All my haters are gonna come out on this one." 1759 01:24:52,879 --> 01:24:55,716 I would post something and it'd be like, "wah, wah, wah." 1760 01:24:55,799 --> 01:24:56,967 And I was like, "Man." 1761 01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:59,803 I got more likes just from taking a picture of my dog 1762 01:24:59,886 --> 01:25:01,847 with my iPhone or something, you know. 1763 01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:04,850 All the algorithms and the analytics and all that, and I was like, 1764 01:25:04,933 --> 01:25:08,186 "Man, this shit is, like, so time-consuming 1765 01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:09,479 and overwhelming." 1766 01:25:09,563 --> 01:25:12,274 It's tiring to try and keep up with the Joneses, so... 1767 01:25:12,357 --> 01:25:15,485 Sometimes I just say, "Fuck it, who am I doing all this shit--?" 1768 01:25:15,569 --> 01:25:17,779 And I go and, you know, do work 1769 01:25:17,863 --> 01:25:19,656 that I need to be doing, to... 1770 01:25:20,699 --> 01:25:22,618 To keep the-- keep the... 1771 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,286 the checks coming in, 1772 01:25:24,369 --> 01:25:26,455 to keep up with the bills that are coming in. 1773 01:25:26,538 --> 01:25:29,291 ♪ Money's growing Like grass with the mass appeal ♪ 1774 01:25:29,374 --> 01:25:31,793 ♪ Money, money, money... ♪ 1775 01:25:31,877 --> 01:25:34,421 People on the other side of the world looking at our shit, 1776 01:25:34,504 --> 01:25:37,424 we don't realize a lot of times 'cause it's in front of us. 1777 01:25:38,925 --> 01:25:39,843 We're from Berlin. 1778 01:25:39,926 --> 01:25:41,553 We're driving lowriders. 1779 01:25:41,637 --> 01:25:43,805 We wear that clothing stuff and... 1780 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:45,015 listen to the music. 1781 01:25:45,098 --> 01:25:46,058 Latino life. 1782 01:25:47,351 --> 01:25:50,937 I think that this art form embraces everybody. 1783 01:25:51,021 --> 01:25:53,398 People are affected, and we don't know about it. 1784 01:25:53,482 --> 01:25:55,692 Inside I always looked like a cholo. 1785 01:25:56,526 --> 01:26:00,113 I'm a trans man and I'm tattooed. I love tattoos. 1786 01:26:00,197 --> 01:26:01,782 - Yeah? Good? - Danke schön. 1787 01:26:03,617 --> 01:26:05,952 ♪ And with my unique skills, nah You can't compare... ♪ 1788 01:26:06,036 --> 01:26:07,871 All good, bro bro! 1789 01:26:07,954 --> 01:26:11,041 Oh, I've been arrested over 20 times for graffiti. 1790 01:26:11,124 --> 01:26:13,794 And I've been chased with things and attacked by dogs 1791 01:26:13,877 --> 01:26:14,920 and my leg-- 1792 01:26:15,003 --> 01:26:17,005 ripped my leg open over jumping fences. 1793 01:26:17,089 --> 01:26:18,298 But I love it. 1794 01:26:18,382 --> 01:26:20,217 Watching Estevan's photos 1795 01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:21,635 and Cartoon's tattoos 1796 01:26:21,718 --> 01:26:24,721 put me into an understanding about a lot of things out here. 1797 01:26:24,805 --> 01:26:26,848 - Oh! - That was perfect timing. 1798 01:26:26,932 --> 01:26:30,143 Between Estevan and Cartoon, they have really brought 1799 01:26:30,227 --> 01:26:32,813 the culture of downtown Los Angeles 1800 01:26:32,896 --> 01:26:36,608 to a place of respect and high art. 1801 01:26:41,446 --> 01:26:44,700 For this show, we wanted to be true to the spirit of the artform. 1802 01:26:44,783 --> 01:26:46,535 Vandalism, ambition, 1803 01:26:46,785 --> 01:26:49,413 rebellion, being out in the streets. 1804 01:26:50,038 --> 01:26:51,707 Beyond The Streets show that's out now, 1805 01:26:51,790 --> 01:26:54,042 you have Banksy, Basquiat, 1806 01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:56,086 Murakami, Shepard Fairey. 1807 01:26:56,169 --> 01:26:58,714 And then you also have Cartoon's church, 1808 01:26:58,797 --> 01:27:02,426 and you have the iconic Estevan LA hand sign. 1809 01:27:03,260 --> 01:27:08,014 People might dismiss graffiti as only being vandalism. 1810 01:27:08,098 --> 01:27:10,267 And I'm not saying that it isn't vandalism. 1811 01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:11,518 It is vandalism. 1812 01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:13,520 This is vandal art. 1813 01:27:13,603 --> 01:27:15,397 Carving your name in a toilet 1814 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,482 and shit. That's how people look at it. 1815 01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:19,901 We're not even supposed to be there in the first place 1816 01:27:19,985 --> 01:27:21,653 or have our cars in there, 1817 01:27:21,737 --> 01:27:22,779 photography. 1818 01:27:22,863 --> 01:27:25,157 ♪ The building, Trinity Ave Ten years... ♪ 1819 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:26,575 To come from nothing... 1820 01:27:26,658 --> 01:27:28,994 They ain't got no degrees. They learned this from the streets. 1821 01:27:29,077 --> 01:27:30,328 ♪ Why you think... ♪ 1822 01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:32,956 Are they responsible for bringing that style 1823 01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:36,376 and that culture to the forefront of the movement? Definitely. 1824 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,879 ♪ I did it all, I put the pieces... ♪ 1825 01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:42,299 Hip-hop culture owes so much to Toons and Estevan. 1826 01:27:42,382 --> 01:27:44,718 Them being so prominent in the culture 1827 01:27:44,801 --> 01:27:46,970 helped shape that wave 1828 01:27:47,053 --> 01:27:51,433 that even the generation after us, coming up... 1829 01:27:51,975 --> 01:27:54,394 Where do Cartoon and Estevan lie 1830 01:27:54,478 --> 01:27:56,772 in the greater scheme of art itself? 1831 01:27:56,855 --> 01:27:57,856 I think pretty high. 1832 01:27:58,815 --> 01:28:01,109 They're out there. They're approachable. 1833 01:28:01,193 --> 01:28:03,987 They're shooting for magazines. They're friends with people on Skid Row. 1834 01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:05,697 You've done a lot for me, brother. 1835 01:28:05,781 --> 01:28:07,491 They're friends with graffiti writers. 1836 01:28:07,574 --> 01:28:09,826 I'll show you what I think about H&M, you know? 1837 01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:11,828 They're friends with musicians, celebrities. 1838 01:28:11,912 --> 01:28:15,373 ♪ In the gutter one, ghetto running 'em Troublesome, extra double dumb... ♪ 1839 01:28:16,082 --> 01:28:17,292 They're still doing it. 1840 01:28:17,375 --> 01:28:20,212 They're doing it better than they ever have, and that's pride. 1841 01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:22,422 That's heart. That's Chicano. 1842 01:28:23,173 --> 01:28:25,425 With all the racism, xenophobia 1843 01:28:25,509 --> 01:28:27,594 that's going on right now in the US, 1844 01:28:27,677 --> 01:28:30,722 for Chicano art to just be pushed as hard as possible, 1845 01:28:30,806 --> 01:28:35,185 whether it's a direct a political message or just as a style, is a great thing. 1846 01:28:35,268 --> 01:28:37,062 These ICE agents and these raids 1847 01:28:37,145 --> 01:28:38,271 and the racism, 1848 01:28:38,355 --> 01:28:40,732 it's only gonna speak to our cultures. 1849 01:28:40,816 --> 01:28:43,401 The culture has to be a little louder than the hate. 1850 01:28:43,485 --> 01:28:45,904 ♪ Cause they say I rhyme They say I look like a gremlin... ♪ 1851 01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:48,865 We're gonna keep moving forward, keep creating 1852 01:28:48,949 --> 01:28:51,618 and stay true to this culture. 1853 01:28:51,701 --> 01:28:54,830 Thank you for coming! Thank you for coming. 1854 01:28:59,292 --> 01:29:00,669 Ah! 1855 01:29:05,382 --> 01:29:06,216 ♪ Slam ♪ 1856 01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,594 ♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ 1857 01:29:11,930 --> 01:29:13,723 ♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ 1858 01:29:13,807 --> 01:29:15,350 ♪ It's my city ♪ 1859 01:29:16,518 --> 01:29:18,228 ♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ 1860 01:29:21,064 --> 01:29:22,983 ♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ 1861 01:29:23,066 --> 01:29:25,485 ♪ It's my city ♪ 1862 01:29:25,569 --> 01:29:27,445 ♪ Wake up in the morning and I thank God ♪ 1863 01:29:27,529 --> 01:29:30,282 ♪ Pray for enemies and haters That's the meaning of a gang star ♪ 1864 01:29:30,365 --> 01:29:32,450 ♪ I'm into everything Hustle I get that money ♪ 1865 01:29:32,534 --> 01:29:34,953 ♪ I know I'm gonna make it I chase it, I come and run it down ♪ 1866 01:29:35,036 --> 01:29:37,330 ♪ We out here chilled, it's Sunday We got the pretty women ♪ 1867 01:29:37,414 --> 01:29:39,791 ♪ Barbecues popping, no stoppin' We're drinking beer with lemon ♪ 1868 01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:41,793 ♪ Los Angeles, baby We own the South side ♪ 1869 01:29:41,877 --> 01:29:44,504 ♪ Cruising down Pacific The sickest, that's how the South ride ♪ 1870 01:29:44,588 --> 01:29:46,339 ♪ Lowriders and OG's with tattoos ♪ 1871 01:29:46,423 --> 01:29:48,925 ♪ Bouncing down the boulevard Watching as they pass you ♪ 1872 01:29:49,009 --> 01:29:51,094 ♪ Hella smoke from this Charlie Brown It's in the sky ♪ 1873 01:29:51,177 --> 01:29:53,597 ♪ Tacos de carnitas with salsita Boy, I'm feeling fly ♪ 1874 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,724 ♪ Mexicano by nature I'm living out a zone ♪ 1875 01:29:55,807 --> 01:29:58,184 ♪ I just think with that alone Really that I'm not alone ♪ 1876 01:29:58,268 --> 01:30:00,645 ♪ My city, my dreams, my lifestyle ♪ 1877 01:30:00,729 --> 01:30:03,064 ♪ I love LA and this is my style ♪ 1878 01:30:03,148 --> 01:30:07,152 ♪ I love cruisin' through my city ♪ 1879 01:30:07,861 --> 01:30:11,323 ♪ I love LA ♪ 1880 01:30:12,365 --> 01:30:16,995 ♪ We'll be chillin' On a South Side Sunday ♪ 1881 01:30:17,078 --> 01:30:20,373 ♪ It's my favorite kind of day ♪ 1882 01:30:21,082 --> 01:30:25,503 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ Out here chillin' with the homies ♪ 1883 01:30:25,587 --> 01:30:30,258 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ Barbecues and family ♪ 1884 01:30:30,342 --> 01:30:34,304 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ Ain't no place I'd rather be ♪ 1885 01:30:34,387 --> 01:30:37,682 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ I love LA ♪ 1886 01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:39,434 ♪ Dude, man, I love LA ♪ 1887 01:30:39,517 --> 01:30:41,811 ♪ Another sunny day in California This is Los Angeles ♪ 1888 01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:44,189 ♪ Beast Baldacci Not to worry, let me handle this ♪ 1889 01:30:44,272 --> 01:30:46,441 ♪ Palm trees It's the home of a real life ♪ 1890 01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,944 ♪ Battlefield, a war zone But this is where I feel right ♪ 1891 01:30:49,027 --> 01:30:50,987 ♪ No hatin', we just livin' Like we're supposed to ♪ 1892 01:30:51,071 --> 01:30:53,573 ♪ Stand for who you are, yep It's what we've been exposed to ♪ 1893 01:30:53,657 --> 01:30:55,784 ♪ I love my city, my people I love my family ♪ 1894 01:30:55,867 --> 01:30:58,036 ♪ I love my haters, my rivals And people mad at me ♪ 1895 01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:00,497 ♪ I'm on the grind I can't stop, I'm all lit ♪ 1896 01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,791 ♪ And every second I thank Pops This all him ♪ 1897 01:31:02,874 --> 01:31:05,251 ♪ Mini-bikes in the street going The feedback ♪ 1898 01:31:05,335 --> 01:31:07,462 ♪ Prostitutes and the weed sacks Believe that ♪ 1899 01:31:07,545 --> 01:31:09,714 ♪ Broken lights so it's dark out The kids playin' ♪ 1900 01:31:09,798 --> 01:31:12,050 ♪ Yellow tape on the next block I'm just sayin' ♪ 1901 01:31:12,133 --> 01:31:14,427 ♪ It ain't never gonna change Boy, I love my city ♪ 1902 01:31:14,511 --> 01:31:16,513 ♪ LA to my day come and rep it with me ♪ 1903 01:31:16,596 --> 01:31:19,849 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ I love cruisin' through my city ♪ 1904 01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:21,184 ♪ Cruisin' through my city, boy ♪ 1905 01:31:21,267 --> 01:31:24,396 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ I love LA ♪ 1906 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,523 -♪ Man, how I love LA ♪ -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ 1907 01:31:26,606 --> 01:31:29,985 ♪ We'll be chillin' On a South Side Sunday ♪ 1908 01:31:30,068 --> 01:31:33,905 -♪ Just chillin' on a South Side Sunday ♪ -♪ It's my favorite kind of day ♪ 1909 01:31:33,989 --> 01:31:35,490 -♪ Yeah ♪ -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ 1910 01:31:35,573 --> 01:31:39,452 ♪ Out here chillin' with the homies ♪ 1911 01:31:39,536 --> 01:31:43,999 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ Barbecues and family ♪ 1912 01:31:44,082 --> 01:31:47,168 -♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪ -♪ Ain't no place I'd rather be ♪ 1913 01:31:47,252 --> 01:31:51,756 -♪ Ain't no place I'd rather be ♪ -♪ I love LA ♪ 1914 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,258 ♪ Uh-huh, I love LA, yeah ♪ 1915 01:31:53,341 --> 01:31:55,593 ♪ Family is everything Tattoos represent mine ♪ 1916 01:31:55,677 --> 01:31:58,054 ♪ Everything ahead of me I hope you try and test mine ♪ 1917 01:31:58,138 --> 01:32:00,306 ♪ Southern champion California weed smoke ♪ 1918 01:32:00,390 --> 01:32:02,726 ♪ The real moonrock on the top When the beast toke ♪ 1919 01:32:02,809 --> 01:32:04,894 ♪ Los Angeles, shout-out to my hometown ♪ 1920 01:32:04,978 --> 01:32:07,313 ♪ Fabuloso Geez, HP, how it goes down ♪ 1921 01:32:07,397 --> 01:32:09,607 ♪ Chikoe, Blazer The Speedy's Estevan Oriol ♪ 1922 01:32:09,691 --> 01:32:11,693 ♪ Free my brothers that's put away Now let them go ♪ 1923 01:32:11,776 --> 01:32:16,281 ♪ I love LA ♪ 157223

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