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Um...
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I'm making this movie because, uh...
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Which way you want me to look?
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- Right here.
- Okay.
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I'm basically making this movie
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because I have 25 years
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of footage and photos
of me and Cartoon's...
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I guess, uh, journey in life,
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and all the movement that we've...
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Wait, let me see.
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If you ain't got tatted by Cartoon,
you ain't got no tat.
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If you ain't get shot by Estevan,
you got a weak photographer.
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You can't tell the story of Estevan
without telling the story of Cartoon.
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You know Toons, then you know Estev.
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They are LA.
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Premier representatives
of that Los Angeles culture.
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Like, the pioneers.
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Not just pioneers,
I mean, I think they're historians.
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Storytellers, they're the image-makers.
The chroniclers.
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When you say LA tattoo artists,
you can't not mention Mister Cartoon.
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Nobody does art like Cartoon.
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When you look at a Mister Cartoon tattoo,
you know that's Mister Cartoon.
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Everybody knows Mister Cartoon.
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The hip-hop tattoo artist.
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Man, you got tatted by Toons,
it's, like, a level of respect.
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Cartoon, baby.
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-My boy Cartoon.
-Cartoon.
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The world-famous Cartoon.
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Everything Cartoon did, Estevan was there.
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Estevan brings an authenticity
that is matched by none other.
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Photographing gang members.
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Capturing the whole culture
and everything, man.
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Lowrider culture, tattoo culture,
shots of Skid Row.
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Leaving pieces of history behind.
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- These vatos...
- They showed
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that you can do it the right way
if you do it the right way.
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They take pride in all of that.
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They paved the way
for a lot of people.
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Even if they don't admit it.
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We couldn't have done it
without these two guys.
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It's about courage.
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Just be true to who you are,
and a lot of people are terrified
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of being who they are.
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That's one of the reasons
they're so successful.
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They mean what they say
and they say what they mean.
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This is our thing,
and we wanna bring this out to the world.
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LA's globalized.
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They've joined forces,
and they've been unstoppable ever since.
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Coming from a Chicano,
Mexican family,
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believing in God is standard issue.
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I was formerly raised Catholic.
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I was told at a young age
that I was gifted, I was blessed,
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I have a gift from God.
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And when you tell a kid that every day
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over and over and over,
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they start to believe it.
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So when my mom would ask me
to clean the room,
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make my bed, I'd be like,
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"I've been gifted from God.
I'm not gonna make my bed. Come on."
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For me, work is happiness.
Yeah, I love to work.
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I love doing photography. I love filming.
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You know, when you say "work,"
that means you do something
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and you get paid, so, yeah,
that means my bills can get paid,
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and I can keep moving forward.
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- Daddy!
- I'm not the best dad
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or the best husband,
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but I think I'm a good worker,
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a good photographer,
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and a pretty good friend.
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Nobody could say I'd done them wrong.
If they do, they're a lying motherfucker.
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If you focus,
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you could see shit off of your talent.
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You could travel the world.
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You could go to Europe and shit.
Like, we've been all around the world.
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You can buy a home for your family.
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Art was like I had to scratch an itch.
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I would see shit,
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I would see a movie poster,
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or I would see something
that made me wanna draw,
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and I would get this kind of anxiety
that I had to draw,
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I had to draw every day. To let it go.
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He was young, very young, like... four.
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At that time, he was drawing nostrils,
fingernails, earlobes,
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you know, things that kids drew
with stick figures,
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he was drawing,
doing very intricate things.
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He was my first child, so I just thought
I was the greatest mom
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because he was so good, you know?
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His mom was, "You're the best.
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You're amazing.
You're the best artist in the world.
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You're gonna grow up to be wonderful."
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And then, at some point,
you just believe it.
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When I was a kid, my father met this guy
at the line at the bank.
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He says, "I'm in karate.
I have a business, a karate business."
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My dad comes home and he goes,
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"I got great news.
You're going to martial arts school."
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I go, "I don't wanna do that."
He goes, "Yeah."
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Hey, I'm paying for that...
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...you're gonna go.
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When he first started, he was real shy,
wouldn't talk to anybody.
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But maybe about a year after karate,
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I would say that he was so confident
that he'd walk straight up.
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Going to the karate school introduced me
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to the world of candy paint
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because the grand master of the school
was also a custom car painter,
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so I learned all those things,
you know, the murals, the candy paint,
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respect, the flow of life.
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All these things kind of went in a circle.
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It's crazy.
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I'm Estevan Oriol.
I'm a photographer and director.
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Raised in LA.
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I was born in Santa Monica
at Saint John's Hospital.
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So you got Estevan.
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Like, this tall cholo guy,
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but then most people don't know
he's half Italian.
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My mom and dad were married
up until I was about three.
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And they split up,
and it was me and my mom.
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To me, my mom was great.
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We grew up on welfare,
food stamps and Medi-Cal,
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but she did her best
to make it the best for me.
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Any time you have mixed-race children,
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they grow up a little bit confused though,
"Am I this race or am I this race?"
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And at some point, you just gotta choose.
He chose the Latino side.
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I didn't even know it until years later.
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My dad,
he was kind of like a hippie.
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He didn't give a shit about having
a nice car and all that shit,
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so that pushed me to strive for more.
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That's what gave me my drive.
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So after high school,
I worked at a snack bar,
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I worked on fishing boats,
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supermarkets,
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liquor store delivery.
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I always had, like, one, two, three jobs.
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At the time, in the '80s,
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it was all about where do you fit in
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in hip-hop.
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Are you a breaker? Are you a rapper?
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Are you a locker? Are you a writer?
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And I was like, "I love breakdancing,
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and all that shit," but I couldn't hang.
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But I could draw.
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Cartoon, uh, always had a marker
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or a can of spray paint with him
all the time.
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And wherever we were at, he'd hit up.
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'Cause I was hip-hop.
I had a b-boy side of me.
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It was, like, bombing, 3-Ds, fade.
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You know, before the Cartoon
that he's known for today,
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he was an awesome graffiti writer.
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He was from this crew WCA
that was kind of legendary
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and was really fucking good.
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I go to probably late '80s
with Cartoon.
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He was "Flame" at the time.
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I thought I knew everybody.
I was like, "Who the fuck is this?"
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And he had such a unique style,
and was so different.
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He hit and run. Like, I'd see a wall,
and next day I was like,
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"Where did this come from?
Who did it?" You know.
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I basically
do graffiti everywhere I go.
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It brought me a rush,
like, you can go to jail for this shit.
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He put his name, "Flame,"
on the graffiti piece,
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and, so, he was caught,
you know, for doing that.
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There was something different
about him.
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We had an idea that someday
he was gonna do something,
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that he was gonna go somewhere,
he was gonna be something in life.
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It's like a work of art in there.
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We were all proud of this,
when he came out in the paper.
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I was just searching
for my look, you know?
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What felt good and what felt real to me.
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I went to LA Trade-Tech
to learn Sign Graphics,
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to understand letters.
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Letters have a weight to them.
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When I was in school,
all the kids knew where the prisons were,
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and some of them would get letters
from their family members,
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and I would look at the envelope
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and see these crazy collaged,
pinta-style envelopes
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and I would think to myself,
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"Man, if I could mix that style of artwork
with bombing graffiti style,
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put them together."
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That's where my style was born.
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When I hit 19,
I moved to Hollywood.
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Sunset Boulevard was cracking.
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The Whisky, The Roxy.
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Hip-hop was new.
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Just that scene was fucking off the chain,
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and I was working nightclubs
for extra money.
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And that's where I met all the LA bands.
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Ice-T and the Rhyme Syndicate,
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the Red Hot Chili Peppers,
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Boo-Yaa T.R.I.B.E.,
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Everlast from House of Pain.
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That's how I met Muggs.
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And then he took me down to the block
on Cypress Ave,
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and that's where I met B-Real and Sen.
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So, this right here is SP 1200.
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This is the drum machine that we did
um, all the House of Pain's records.
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♪ Pack it up, pack it inLet me begin ♪
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The sample though--
For "Jump Around," I made it.
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Horn player... came in the studio,
played the horn,
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and I put it in here, then I detuned it.
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When you detune it,
it gives it like a crunch.
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♪ Feelin', funkin'Amps in the trunk ♪
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It spreads it out a little bit.
That's why that sounds unique.
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First time I met Estevan, he was working
the door of a club on 2nd Street
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in, like, Little Tokyo.
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He just would always
show me love and let me in.
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That's the homie Steve-O,
short for Steve Oriol.
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Switched it up to Scan.
Scan was just Scandalous.
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After we started
getting the music together,
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and we realized we were gonna go
on the road, Muggs basically said,
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"Yo, I know exactly who should be
your road manager."
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Who can I get that's fucking responsible
and got they shit together?
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And I was like, "Who?"
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I hit up Scan and then, um...
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He became our tour manager.
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That was it, right there.
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That was the beginning
of us having worldwide escapades.
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In the beginning, people
didn't know that House of Pain was white.
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People were like, "What the fuck?"
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"What are these fucking white boys
walking through here?"
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And then they'd hear the...
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And the whole fucking club
would just go buck wild, berserk,
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and they're just losing
their fucking minds.
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From there, it just took off.
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I was with the band in the music videos,
like "Shamrocks and Shenanigans."
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When I wasn't here in LA,
I was on tour with House of Pain.
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My dad, he was a photographer.
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He thought I lived
kind of a cool lifestyle, so...
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This is my first camera
that my dad gave me.
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This is the one that I talk about
when people say,
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"Oh, how did you start in photography?"
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We would go on these
little really fucked-up promo tours,
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and he was just always taking pictures.
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I figured out
that I was gonna be an artist
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when it was time to get a real job.
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I think airbrushing T-shirts,
when I first did that,
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about 17 years old,
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is when I knew
I could do this for a living.
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And I would paint
portraits of people's cars,
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put it on a T-shirt
and put the name over top.
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I just started working right off the bat.
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Cartoon's Customs was born,
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kind of like preparing me to tattoo.
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Scandalous got the camera.
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Japan. It's how we do it.
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Chicken and soup.
And I'm gonna get the spinach and butter.
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When you're on the road, man,
shit can get a bit stressful.
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You need somebody out there
that knows everybody's personalities
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and everything,
keep everything at ease all the time.
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Every day was a new adventure,
new city, new country, new shows.
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It was the shit, to roll with the homie.
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Hey, Steve-O.
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He wasn't Estevan Oriol, the photographer.
He was the road dog.
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They got the homie.
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Cypress Hill, at the time, had not only...
selling crazy records or platinum records,
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but a well-respected hip-hop group.
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B-Real was one of the dopest emcees
in the world at the time.
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Look at this view, motherfuckers.
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I look fucking good.
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You never have to ask me if I'm ready.
I'm always ready, motherfucker. Fuck you.
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Oh, shit. That was a good hit.
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Muggs had put on Estevan
to work with the House of Pain guys
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and then he came to work with us,
Cypress Hill.
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His first show
with us was at Woodstock 1994.
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B-Real jumps off the stage
into the crowd, now I gotta pull him out,
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but while I'm pulling him out,
I'm taking pictures.
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That shit was fucking crazy.
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♪ But I'm still comin' to get yaThinkin' like a peace smoke ♪
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♪ Comin' on a homicideYou talkin' shit, try to take... ♪
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Estevan, he had many
different roles he played.
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He was tour managing,
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he was our photographer and videographer.
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♪ So what ya gonna do now?Being the hunted one is no fun ♪
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♪ Here I come, son ♪
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Those are all mine.
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♪ Better run moreAnd move a little faster ♪
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♪ Second of thoughtAnd I'm comin' to blast ya with my ♪
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♪ Sawed off shotgun, hand on the pumpLeft hand on a forty ♪
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♪ Puffin' on a blunt ♪
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♪ Pumped my shotgun ♪
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♪ Niggas didn't jump ♪
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- ♪ Lala, la la, la la, la la ♪
- Let's rock 'n' roll.
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♪ Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill ♪
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♪ Look at it ♪
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♪ Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill ♪
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♪ Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill ♪
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♪ Look at it ♪
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That's the way our crew was.
We all worked together very tightly.
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No one ever wore one hat.
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You know, everybody did multiple things
just to get whatever we needed done,
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and Estevan, you know,
he covered a lot of bases,
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and, at the same time,
being our family and friend
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and filling every spot
that needed to be filled.
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What's up, dude?
This is motherfucking Scandalous.
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If you need anything,
I got what you want, baby.
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Motherfuckin', big old skunk.
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Come on!
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Can you hear me? We're right here
in fucked-up Cleveland,
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we just had Mother Nature
trip the fuck out on us.
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Yeah!
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♪ Olé, olé, olé, olé, Cypress, Cypress ♪
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So Estevan came through and a lot
of the great footage that we have now
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from Cypress Hill in those early days,
it was all Estevan Oriol footage.
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♪ Cypress ♪
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♪ Cypress ♪
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♪ Cypress Hill ♪
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♪ Cypress Hill ♪
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♪ Cypress ♪
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♪ Cypress ♪
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♪ Cypress Hill ♪
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♪ Cypress Hill ♪
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I have Steve-O in my head
always saying things like,
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"I'm just right here.
I'm just right here."
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Him, I think, saying to me,
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"Don't worry about it.
I'm doing my job. I'm right here."
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Alright, we're still on our way.
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The most pissed-on
fucking countryside I've seen.
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- What else are we gonna do?
- We need to get there before you do.
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Fucking Ireland.
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- Oh, he's stuck!
- You fucking bollocks!
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What the fuck did he say?
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We have to go backstage,
you know?
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You can't get in that way.
It's too small.
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- We wanna go backstage.
- Yeah, you got a pass?
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Yeah, we-- This is our pass. Cypress Hill.
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- Cypress-- Oh, yeah.
- Yeah.
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We made it, Engolf.
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I'm on tour
with The Beastie Boys,
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No Doubt, The Fugees,
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Limp Bizkit, Erykah Badu,
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and all these other bands,
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and I'm the only one there with a camera.
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You're going from nothing
to seeing thousands of people
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losing their fucking minds to the song
that you guys are bringing, you know?
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So, you're, like, "Fuck, man."
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That's when I started, like, feeling like,
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"Okay, yeah, I need
to take pictures of all this shit."
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This is Southern California, motherfucker.
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I started offering my photos
to the magazines,
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so music magazines
started publishing my photos.
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Yo, kick it off, dog.
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One, two, three. Chickity boom bang.
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Estevan...
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The motherfucker was the man, you know?
He was a man of many hats.
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When I met him,
I was about 14, 15 years old.
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I was in the group The Whooliganz.
I rapped. I was a rapper.
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♪ Book your silly crickPut your hands up ♪
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Me and my man Scotty.
Scotty Caan.
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We had made a record with B-Real,
so they were bringing us out on tour
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to pump up our record
that hadn't come out yet.
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So, I'm 16 years old in that situation,
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with nothing to do,
but be alive for one hour.
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Otherwise, it was, like, hit on girls,
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smoke weed and drink,
and hang out with your idols.
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I don't like to represent an age group.
I'm representing hip-hop.
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You know,
he started fucking with the camera then...
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Alchemist started fucking
with beats then and...
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- Can we say "fuck"?
- Yeah.
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You talk about that time,
you can't not curse.
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It's impossible, you know?
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You gotta remember, in '93,
Soul Assassins,
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Cypress Hill, House of Pain,
they were the top of rap.
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You know, you had Dre and Snoop otherwise,
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but other than that,
this was the biggest shit going on.
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That was Soul Assassins. We were the top.
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I met Estevan Oriol
25 plus years ago.
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It was surreal for a 16-year-old
to go to a concert
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with The Whooliganz opening up
for House of Pain and Cypress Hill
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at the height of their career.
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We were backstage, and they almost
shut the whole concert down
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because some guy named Estevan
punched out the bootleggers.
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They would get your artwork
from the newspaper and make a shirt.
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Like an hour before the show,
a couple-- All the homeboys
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would like, put their hoods on and, like,
go walk through the parking lot
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and you'd just be sittin'
by the, you know, by the trailers,
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-and you just hear, "Wham!"
-Damn!
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And dudes would just get knocked out cold,
like...
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I won't name any names.
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- Name names.
- Muggs, Estevan.
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Motherfucker said something...
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So I punch him in the face.
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Poor guy.
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So, that's when I met Estevan Oriol.
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Him beating up a bootlegger
in San Francisco
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at a Soul Assassins' concert.
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When I met Steve-O, he was tour manager,
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the all-time funny guy...
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slash photographer, slash DJ.
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From their platinum album Temples of Boom,
you guys, here is Cypress Hill!
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♪ All this confusion's stressing meOut in my mind ♪
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There were times I think
where he even may have filled in
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as a member of Cypress Hill in interviews.
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00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:20,701
You can't blame all of us
for these few groups.
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Clearly,
the controversy is going to continue.
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-Thanks a lot for joining us.
-Thanks for having us.
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This is Cypress Hill.
And now, back to New York.
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Then fight!
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I think it all changed, though,
when I did my first album cover.
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There were the 1992 riots.
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It's not a message of protest.
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It's the brutality of a mob.
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The verdict was read,
and the streets went crazy.
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Shit just happened.
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Blacks and Mexicans started looking
at each other, communicating
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like family.
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Boy, they didn't like that.
They didn't like that.
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00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:05,663
I remember that day,
driving on the 110 freeway,
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going to Hollywood
and seeing the sides of the 110
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with fire on each side of it.
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What it did was, it spawned a relationship
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from '92 to now that they can never break.
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But as crazy as that shit was,
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that everything was on fire
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and the injustice against Rodney King,
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and "fuck the police," and this and that,
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I was driving,
and the Kid Frost album cover I had drawn
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was blown up on a billboard
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for Virgin Records.
416
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:39,697
Now I'm in the music game,
and I don't even play the guitar.
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00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,746
Behind me is
where me and Cartoon first met.
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On that particular night,
they rented out the top floor
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for The Penthouse Players
record release party.
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Me and my friend Donnie Charles,
we went there together.
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Right when we walked in,
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he saw Cartoon, and he goes, "Hey..."
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"Come over here, uh,
I want you to meet my other homie.
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00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:02,553
He's Mexican too."
425
00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:04,221
"Both of you guys are in the music game.
426
00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:06,724
He did The Penthouse Players' album cover.
427
00:21:06,807 --> 00:21:09,810
You guys just kick it right here,
and I'm gonna go roll around."
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00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:13,606
"E" impacted my life
because I found someone
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00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:15,733
that was on the same mission I was,
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00:21:15,816 --> 00:21:17,985
artistically, friendship-wise.
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00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:20,571
I remember him telling me,
"Mommy," says,
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"I met a guy that thinks
along the same lines I do."
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00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,077
Probably my first seeing Cartoon
was, like, early '94.
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If I remember correctly,
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00:21:28,871 --> 00:21:31,874
it was at Muggs' crib
up in the Hollywood Hills.
436
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:36,754
- They were in a '64 Impala.
- It is a buddy comedy.
437
00:21:36,837 --> 00:21:39,799
Abbott and Costello.
These two motherfuckers was non-stop.
438
00:21:39,882 --> 00:21:41,217
They knew how to hustle.
439
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,135
At the beginning,
it was rough for us.
440
00:21:43,219 --> 00:21:46,806
And the more we hung out,
the more we just started building on ideas
441
00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:50,142
of things that we could do
to make money that weren't illegal.
442
00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:52,311
The check dance.
Let's see the-- Let's see the--
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The stripper check.
444
00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:59,026
Back in those days, you know,
there was no Estevan without Cartoon.
445
00:22:01,237 --> 00:22:04,657
Cartoon's role in Soul Assassins,
he's like the... the visuals.
446
00:22:04,782 --> 00:22:07,535
We saw the talent in him.
We believed in him.
447
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:16,043
Get in there.
Get in there, fucker.
448
00:22:16,126 --> 00:22:17,086
For real?
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Turn the camera off!
450
00:22:25,761 --> 00:22:28,138
- Where we at?
- We're in a ferry right now.
451
00:22:28,222 --> 00:22:30,224
Fucking eight in the morning and shit.
452
00:22:30,307 --> 00:22:31,851
I'm so tired.
453
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:35,271
All that tour life, man,
I think that's what kind of molded us
454
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:38,232
to be able to have
different relationships, you know?
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00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:39,942
Just living that life, man.
456
00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,569
- You're high, man.
- Wow!
457
00:22:41,652 --> 00:22:43,320
What do you think about that?
It looks crazy.
458
00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:45,197
I'll take a little piece and taste it.
459
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:48,325
When Cartoon first started coming around,
he started doing all of our shit.
460
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,578
He was mad talented.
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00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,080
I would do the stage design.
462
00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:54,498
Check, check.
463
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Artwork that I had drawn
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00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:59,503
would get blown up
into this big giant blow-up doll
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of a king sitting on a throne,
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00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,632
the most gangster shit I could think of.
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00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:06,677
I hadn't even started tattooing.
I didn't even have a tattoo yet.
468
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,012
It wasn't until later I started
469
00:23:08,095 --> 00:23:10,556
hangin' around
professional tattoo shops that...
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00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:13,100
...the smell of the green soap,
471
00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:15,394
the energy of the shop kind of drew me in.
472
00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:18,147
My life would go another direction.
473
00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:31,827
This is NFC,
stands for "No Fat Chicks."
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00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:36,749
A long, long time ago,
I made a tattoo machine...
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00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:39,627
for my partner Cartoon.
476
00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:42,171
And this is what he started
tattooing me with.
477
00:23:43,213 --> 00:23:45,883
Even though I was good
at drawing on paper,
478
00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:50,596
and I could do graffiti, airbrush,
skin was a completely different world.
479
00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:54,683
His transition
from drawing to the tattoo game
480
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,685
had everybody shook.
481
00:23:56,852 --> 00:23:59,063
I don't remember exactly
how he transitioned,
482
00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:01,941
but I remember, like, his first tattoos.
It was, like, "Oh, it's over."
483
00:24:02,024 --> 00:24:04,568
Cartoon came in
and changed the game.
484
00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:07,404
From spraying on a metal
to "Give me this fucking gun,"
485
00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:09,531
he just, like, took to skin
486
00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:11,700
like it was just second nature.
487
00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:18,123
In the early days,
he'd bring me all my customers.
488
00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:20,459
I'd just see all these people
and all these bands,
489
00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:22,878
and I'd see their tattoos and I was like,
490
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,714
"Fuck, man, that tattoo looks like shit."
491
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:27,841
Just see them at a concert and be like,
492
00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,177
"Oh, you like tattoos?
That's a nice tattoo.
493
00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:32,888
You ever got tattooed by Cartoon?
He did this on me."
494
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:34,807
And I showed them mine,
and they were fresh.
495
00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:35,933
Most of the guys were like,
496
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:37,810
"Oh, that's badass, you know.
Who did that?"
497
00:24:37,893 --> 00:24:40,813
"My boy Cartoon. He brought his shit.
You can get tattooed with him."
498
00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:42,982
That's how I got all my clients, you know?
499
00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:44,316
My big ones.
500
00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:52,992
There is so much going on with those guys.
501
00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:58,622
They're super ambitious,
super creative.
502
00:24:58,747 --> 00:25:01,250
You just want this same style,
but just a little more symmetrical.
503
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:02,209
Like this.
504
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:03,794
Super fun to be around.
505
00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:05,587
Super assholes at times.
506
00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:09,591
Hey, Paul,
we're ready to get Jewish, get right.
507
00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,927
I know Toons went
on the Anger Management Tour
508
00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:12,886
over to Europe.
509
00:25:13,429 --> 00:25:14,513
Everybody hung out.
510
00:25:14,722 --> 00:25:16,223
Anger Management Tour.
511
00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:18,100
-This was the tour.
-Damn.
512
00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,977
We're doing
these European festivals
513
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,229
and you get access to all these bands.
514
00:25:22,312 --> 00:25:23,647
I mean, all-access pass.
515
00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:27,526
Whookid is accused
of trying to bribe a prostitute
516
00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:29,570
with a mixtape and two tickets.
517
00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:35,576
Order in court! Order in court!
518
00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:38,662
Did you or did you not pay for pussy?
519
00:25:38,746 --> 00:25:40,247
I paid for entertainment.
520
00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,673
He's a pro at that, man.
521
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,474
It was crazy, he was tattooing
on tour over there in Europe.
522
00:25:58,766 --> 00:25:59,850
Amsterdam.
523
00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:02,603
I came over here to Europe
to come with Cypress Hill.
524
00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:07,066
Actually,
it's a Cartoon tour featuring 50 Cent.
525
00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,776
He makes me want a tattoo and shit.
526
00:26:08,859 --> 00:26:11,987
- Eminem.
- Cartoon, homie. Y'all can't afford it.
527
00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:14,573
- Xzibit.
- Fucking ecstasy, man!
528
00:26:14,656 --> 00:26:15,741
Cypress Hill.
529
00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:19,203
It ain't easy, but somebody gotta do it.
Why the hell not you, right?
530
00:26:19,286 --> 00:26:21,497
Basically, my tattoo customers
are getting together
531
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,373
and throwing some type of little concert.
532
00:26:23,457 --> 00:26:25,667
That was pretty cool
'cause he was doing it sometimes
533
00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:26,627
right backstage.
534
00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:33,050
-You're coming with us tomorrow, right?
-We're coming at 3:00 p.m. 2:00 p--
535
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:34,093
No, 1:00 p.m.
536
00:26:34,676 --> 00:26:37,346
I was Proof before it, but this really--
537
00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:41,266
Wow! I'm Proof now, for real, for real,
you know what I'm saying?
538
00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:43,060
Motherfuckers are bored,
539
00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:45,521
so when you have a tattoo machine
going in the back...
540
00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:46,855
What do you got on that shoulder?
541
00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:50,317
...and you're in Germany somewhere,
you're gonna be there all day.
542
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,777
He's got another victim.
543
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:55,823
He shoulda did a class photo
with all his ink victims on this tour.
544
00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:00,911
He did Bizarre from D12.
He did his belly, man.
545
00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:03,122
I remember, I was there
just watching him do this.
546
00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:04,623
He had a lot of real estate.
547
00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:08,544
He had lot of real estate right there.
It was crazy.
548
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:09,920
If you're a rapper
549
00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:14,633
and you ain't got a tattoo by Cartoon,
then you ain't living.
550
00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:21,473
I was just that guy in the industry
551
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:23,725
and people were coming to see me
because of my work.
552
00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,894
I surrounded myself by talent.
553
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:47,374
25 years old,
this is holding its weight.
554
00:27:47,457 --> 00:27:49,960
DL, all day strong.
Know what I'm talkin' bout?
555
00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:53,630
Hola.
556
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:07,186
Is there anywhere
to go get something to eat?
557
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:08,687
Terminal two.
558
00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:10,355
- Huh?
- Terminal two.
559
00:28:10,439 --> 00:28:12,191
- How do you get there?
- You go--
560
00:28:13,609 --> 00:28:14,943
Where did she say to turn?
561
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:16,195
The green ramp.
562
00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:21,366
New York City. No one's here.
563
00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:23,535
- You need that?
- No.
564
00:28:23,619 --> 00:28:25,204
Let's go.
565
00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:31,668
Before you know it,
everybody was calling Cartoon.
566
00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:33,754
He was top name, flying him in.
567
00:28:33,837 --> 00:28:36,632
Well, at that point in time,
everybody started getting tatted up.
568
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,008
Hey, let's order a pizza pie.
569
00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:39,509
Gang Starr, you know what I'm saying?
570
00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:42,512
That means that's me
and my motherfucking man Preemo, okay?
571
00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:43,764
-DJ Premier.
-Yeah.
572
00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:48,310
Only real shit gets done
on me anyway, so the realest shit,
573
00:28:48,393 --> 00:28:49,603
Mister Cartoon.
574
00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:50,854
This hot, though, this hot.
575
00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:52,481
He's created a masterpiece.
576
00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:57,402
Busted.
577
00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:02,241
I'm gonna leave my whole little
cigarette binge right here in New York,
578
00:29:02,324 --> 00:29:03,242
where I found it.
579
00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:04,910
I thought you found it in Tokyo.
580
00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:05,869
Yeah, but...
581
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,330
I can't leave it there
cause I'm over here.
582
00:29:10,374 --> 00:29:11,792
That nigga Cartoon be doin'.
583
00:29:16,546 --> 00:29:20,092
You see, this is how we do it.
584
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:22,177
And-- And what you have with Estevan...
585
00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:25,222
If I tell you to shut the fuck up,
will you shut the fuck up?
586
00:29:25,305 --> 00:29:27,474
Insane drug addict, alcoholic.
587
00:29:27,557 --> 00:29:28,809
He was partying his ass off.
588
00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:32,271
I might've experimented
with every kind of drug you could try.
589
00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:34,815
PCP, blow, mushrooms,
590
00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:36,900
acid, ecstasy,
591
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:38,026
MDMA.
592
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,612
I'd wake up
with the craziest cramps in my legs.
593
00:29:40,696 --> 00:29:42,614
And... it was just too much.
594
00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:44,616
We looked at each other and we were like,
595
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:46,702
"We need to go to the next level, man."
596
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:50,205
And to go to the next level,
"E" had to leave...
597
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,791
the substances behind.
598
00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:54,084
And he got sober
599
00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:57,671
and sponsored
countless amount of people for years.
600
00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:00,757
Once he got sober,
I just seen domination kick in.
601
00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:02,843
And they grew that empire,
602
00:30:02,926 --> 00:30:04,720
Soul Assassins Studios.
603
00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:06,805
Before you know it...
604
00:30:11,435 --> 00:30:13,729
I mean, should I tell you--
I can tell you the whole story now.
605
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,277
♪ Now here's a little somethingThat needs to be heard ♪
606
00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:23,447
My first time going to S.A. Studios,
607
00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:24,906
lowriders,
608
00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:27,200
rims,
609
00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:28,952
the art on the wall.
610
00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:31,246
I was like a kid in a candy store.
611
00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:35,125
It was like a Chicano...
612
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:37,210
like a camp, like a club.
613
00:30:37,294 --> 00:30:39,296
These dudes are like cholo Da Vincis.
614
00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:42,424
I never would've found them
if I hadn't become successful.
615
00:30:42,507 --> 00:30:44,885
Yeah. Yeah. Check, check.
616
00:30:45,469 --> 00:30:48,430
Yo. I remember walking in,
though, and being like,
617
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:50,557
"Damn, you guys made it."
618
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,144
'Cause it was, like, fucking incredible.
619
00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,437
You're in downtown,
620
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,773
and you're in the thick of it,
Skid Row is right there,
621
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,025
and that spot was super jammin'.
I loved that.
622
00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:02,444
It seemed like it should be
like a tour museum.
623
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:04,237
Like, people need to see that shit.
624
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:08,325
When we first moved down here,
this was an extension of Skid Row.
625
00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:12,496
This is where the homeless used to live.
The people on drugs or mentally ill.
626
00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:15,082
That's what this area was like before.
627
00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:18,585
Can you see it? All right.
The Art Department were those two windows.
628
00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:20,504
And we had like a little showroom here.
629
00:31:20,837 --> 00:31:24,841
We had all of our cars
laid out behind these windows.
630
00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:26,802
Inside that double doors right there
631
00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:30,222
was Cartoon's Skid Row Tattoo.
632
00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:32,349
S.A. Studios. That was a great time.
633
00:31:32,432 --> 00:31:33,600
It was like a hideout.
634
00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:36,395
You guys gave us the tour.
Like, showed us a bunch of shit.
635
00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:38,814
It was kind of like a wild playground.
636
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:41,274
Come on! Let's go! Busted! Yeah!
637
00:31:41,358 --> 00:31:42,401
Shalom.
638
00:31:42,484 --> 00:31:44,611
Yeah, I got a good tattoo
for you guys right here.
639
00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:46,905
Oh!
640
00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,032
The Jew unit in effect,
you know what I'm saying?
641
00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:53,328
We have these two guys
with shaved heads covered in tattoos,
642
00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,872
and then you go to their office,
and they have their own Nikes,
643
00:31:55,956 --> 00:31:57,249
they have their own Vans.
644
00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:59,668
And Estevan's sittin' there,
and his room's a mess,
645
00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:02,087
and he has like a little gun on the table.
646
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:05,924
Motorcycles.
It was the illest, illest studio ever.
647
00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:08,260
It was nothing like I'd ever seen before.
648
00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:09,886
I'm green with envy.
649
00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:13,265
When I walked out and I saw Too $hort,
and then I saw Darlene,
650
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,225
Ice-T's old wife, right?
651
00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:16,643
Well, I saw 50 there.
652
00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:17,769
I saw Dre, Snoop.
653
00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:20,021
You know, every day
was somebody else coming through.
654
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:21,940
I saw her walking in, and I'm like,
655
00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:24,693
"Oh, this must be the spot."
You know what I'm saying? Like...
656
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:26,778
I saw Eminem over there.
657
00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:27,904
He tatted me there.
658
00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:29,614
I think one day
I saw Kim Kardashian there.
659
00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:32,075
Went and done a photo shoot with her
or whatever.
660
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:33,326
You guys still got that place?
661
00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:36,705
The building itself
seemed slightly dangerous.
662
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:37,873
Oh, there comes shitbox.
663
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,834
I'm sure it's really dangerous,
but since you planted
664
00:32:40,917 --> 00:32:42,377
your spot there it became--
665
00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:44,504
It was like a safe house or something.
666
00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:46,923
The homeless people around it,
they took care of it.
667
00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:49,468
You know, that's why no one
ever really messed with that building.
668
00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:52,888
Pull your ass over.
Face the wall.
669
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:55,765
And I wanna see your ID and your bike.
670
00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:57,434
There's my ID,
671
00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:58,894
there's my nutsack,
672
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,312
and fuck you, my ass.
673
00:33:01,438 --> 00:33:04,483
It seems like we were able
to exist in multiple worlds.
674
00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:05,692
You know what I'm saying?
675
00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:08,195
For lunch, we'd be in downtown
676
00:33:08,278 --> 00:33:11,323
and bullshitting
with some crazy homeless guy in his tent.
677
00:33:11,406 --> 00:33:13,742
Estevan would jump out
and take a picture of him.
678
00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:18,413
And then we'd jump on the 10 freeway
and be at a five-star hotel.
679
00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:20,415
It was just normal,
you know what I'm saying?
680
00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,168
I'm Pepper, you know?
681
00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:26,129
I'm Skid Row's
most highest-ranked right now.
682
00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:27,839
I'm the mayor of Skid Row.
683
00:33:27,923 --> 00:33:30,217
The homeless pretty much answer to me.
684
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,677
Factory place was dead.
685
00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:35,388
When Joker, Cartoon, everyone come here.
686
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,433
They brought the factory to life, okay?
687
00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,560
And then I came into the scene.
688
00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:43,480
- How old you turn?
- Forty-one.
689
00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:45,023
Okay, I'm 50.
690
00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:47,776
Soon to be 51 in a couple of months.
691
00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,780
I'm an ex-convict,
ex-drug dealer, ex-drug user.
692
00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,490
I gutted his ass.
693
00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:55,867
We got in an argument, so I gutted him.
694
00:33:56,076 --> 00:33:58,286
This family never gave up on me.
695
00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:02,749
They never gave up on me when I was
all filthy, drugged out and shit.
696
00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:04,793
When I was thrown in and out
of County Jail,
697
00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:06,670
they accepted me with open arms
when I come out.
698
00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:09,256
I've been dealing
with homeless people
699
00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:10,549
all my life, you know.
700
00:34:10,632 --> 00:34:12,175
They don't wanna follow rules.
701
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,135
I work when I wanna work.
702
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:16,972
Sleep when I wanna sleep.
703
00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:20,016
Sleep where I wanna sleep.
704
00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,895
They have a problem
with authority.
705
00:34:23,979 --> 00:34:27,315
And whoever don't like it,
fuck them in their ass and suck my dick.
706
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:30,277
For the fourth time today.
This is harassment.
707
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,404
Fourth time being stopped for no reason.
708
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:36,241
- See you tomorrow, Pepper!
- All right.
709
00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:39,244
We could fall off
and lose all our shit.
710
00:34:39,327 --> 00:34:40,620
Pepper's world.
711
00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:43,290
So, any of us
could be walking the streets, you know?
712
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:44,833
Drugs will take you down there.
713
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:49,212
But that's the way life goes.
Life is about change.
714
00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,381
And change is what it's about.
715
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:54,926
Look,
if y'all gonna keep telling me
716
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:57,304
which way to move,
we can't do no interview. Damn!
717
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,723
Look, are you good, cameraman? All right.
718
00:34:59,806 --> 00:35:03,143
Listen, I'm Big Lepke,
Westside Rebels, gangster locos.
719
00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:04,978
Yeah, I'm an ex-gang member.
720
00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:07,272
We up on Skid Row. We keep it real.
721
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:09,774
Today we ain't trippin'.
Ain't no heroin in the veins.
722
00:35:09,858 --> 00:35:11,151
Ain't no rock in the mouth.
723
00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:13,069
Skid Row was my home.
724
00:35:13,153 --> 00:35:15,071
Some people call it "hell."
I call it "home."
725
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,281
The city I roam.
726
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,743
So, right here Lepke
would get the boxes
727
00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:21,286
from when we'd throw them out,
728
00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:23,121
and he'd make
like a little bed right here.
729
00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:25,749
I remember one time
we were coming to have a meeting here
730
00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:28,168
and Lepke, he'd been shooting heroin.
731
00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:31,755
We were like,
"Great, fucking Lepke's passed out.
732
00:35:31,838 --> 00:35:35,050
The clients are coming,
and we're gonna have this big meeting,
733
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,802
and there's our, you know,
dopefiend friend
734
00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:40,513
passed out from shooting too much heroin.
735
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:44,559
You know, he didn't OD, so we didn't
have to stick an ice cube up his ass.
736
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:48,229
But he was knocked out,
so we had to spray him with some water...
737
00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:51,733
so he could come to.
738
00:35:52,442 --> 00:35:53,485
Hey.
739
00:35:53,902 --> 00:35:55,945
Come back.
740
00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:57,656
Get him later.
741
00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:58,948
I'm over here, kickin' it.
742
00:35:59,032 --> 00:36:01,034
- Don't threaten me, man.
- Hey, motherfucker.
743
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:03,745
No, no, we told him, "You gotta go.
We're gonna have a meeting."
744
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:05,664
Oh, suck a dick.
745
00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:09,167
Yeah, he squirted some water in my nose,
and it was a cool wake-up call.
746
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:10,710
I always think about stuff like that.
747
00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:12,379
You're gonna get kicked.
748
00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:15,965
So, downtown has always been
a Soul Assassins' headquarters.
749
00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:20,970
It was kind of like a home base.
Kind of reminds me of Grand Theft Auto.
750
00:36:21,054 --> 00:36:22,222
Estevan was upstairs,
751
00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:23,765
Cartoon was tattooing.
752
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:26,142
There was eyes on it.
It was protected, man, yeah.
753
00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:28,853
There's like a shield around it
or something.
754
00:36:28,937 --> 00:36:32,315
But you take pictures, you do cars,
all that stuff in that space.
755
00:36:32,399 --> 00:36:34,275
You tattoo there.
756
00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:37,904
There's only one guy
that I let do my tattoos,
757
00:36:37,987 --> 00:36:39,364
and my kids' tattoos.
758
00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:41,574
The great Cartoon.
759
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,585
How does the car look?
760
00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,546
Great.
761
00:36:54,629 --> 00:36:56,756
Tattoos used to be a stigma.
762
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,799
I mean, a bad one.
763
00:36:58,007 --> 00:36:59,259
When I got out of the pen,
764
00:36:59,342 --> 00:37:02,595
the first girl I saw with a tattoo, I--
I thought she was a hooker.
765
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:04,514
Before him, tattooing hip-hop guys,
766
00:37:04,597 --> 00:37:07,434
I don't think there was
a prominent position in hip-hop
767
00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:09,144
where guys were getting tatted like that.
768
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,479
Nobody was--
Like, in hip-hop, was about that.
769
00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:12,564
I mean--
770
00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:16,651
Fuck, I mean, I feel like Cartoon
gave Eminem one of his first tattoos,
771
00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:19,237
Didn't he? He gave Snoop
one of his first tattoos.
772
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,198
Look at this, man.
I really look like my old boy Nate Dogg.
773
00:37:22,782 --> 00:37:24,576
It looks like my lovely wife.
774
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,202
He captured that, man.
775
00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:28,788
I mean, I don't even have
a Cartoon tattoo, believe it or not.
776
00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:30,790
That's, you know what I mean,
I'd love one.
777
00:37:30,874 --> 00:37:34,127
But, you know, I'm not paying 50 Gs.
I'm just not doing it.
778
00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:37,422
This guy is the best in the world,
but he costs an arm and a leg.
779
00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:39,424
He'll tattoo your arm
and he'll take it with you.
780
00:37:40,425 --> 00:37:41,926
Hey, man, it's worth it.
781
00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:44,929
- Talk about your new tattoo.
- Cartoon is the greatest tattoo artist
782
00:37:45,013 --> 00:37:46,556
to ever live.
783
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:51,227
This should be enough for this,
because, my man--
784
00:37:51,311 --> 00:37:54,355
He's the greatest, the quickest, uh...
785
00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,484
- With the biggest truck.
- With the biggest truck.
786
00:37:58,193 --> 00:37:59,736
It's getting expensive, man.
787
00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:01,946
With the biggest truck...
788
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,032
in the world, probably.
789
00:38:04,324 --> 00:38:06,993
I mean, his clientele, you know,
it's like, you know, Travis,
790
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,578
and Eminem, Redman,
791
00:38:08,661 --> 00:38:09,996
Method Man, you know,
792
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,372
Justin Timberlake,
793
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:12,999
Beyoncé from Destiny's Child...
794
00:38:13,166 --> 00:38:14,209
Don't show me.
795
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,504
It's appointment only
796
00:38:17,587 --> 00:38:20,673
and not every deek off the street
can just come in and get something.
797
00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:22,884
I knew If I was gonna get
my fucking head done,
798
00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,136
for what I wanted and stuff,
and the style,
799
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:26,763
I knew it was gonna be Cartoon, you know.
800
00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:44,864
That was an experience.
801
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,367
I would hear his name in songs.
The Game,
802
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:50,119
there's a couple of rap songs
where he drops Cartoon's name.
803
00:38:50,203 --> 00:38:52,831
♪ I'm to hip-hopWhat Cartoon is to Mexicans ♪
804
00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:56,125
You know, I'm a hip-hop fan,
and, so, I would see Cartoon
805
00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:57,544
pop up in music videos.
806
00:39:02,841 --> 00:39:04,717
♪ From the reign of the tecI break 'em off ♪
807
00:39:04,801 --> 00:39:07,428
♪ I even got a tattooWith your name across the chest ♪
808
00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,555
In the waiting room,
809
00:39:08,638 --> 00:39:10,348
I remember looking
at the pictures on the wall,
810
00:39:10,431 --> 00:39:12,141
pictures Estevan probably took.
811
00:39:12,225 --> 00:39:15,186
Cartoon was tatting up all those,
50 Cent, Eminem and Dr. Dre.
812
00:39:15,436 --> 00:39:17,272
If Xzibit was getting tattooed,
813
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:20,692
Estevan was photographing him,
and you'd see that photo everywhere.
814
00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:26,030
I knew pretty early on
that he had done the Xs on Xzibit,
815
00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:27,448
that he did 50 Cent's back,
816
00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:29,826
You know, 50 got that shit
on his back, man.
817
00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:31,202
That shit is crazy.
818
00:39:31,286 --> 00:39:33,079
♪ One, two, three, let's go! ♪
819
00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:35,915
♪ Lil' mama, show me how you move it ♪
820
00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:38,167
♪ Go ahead, put your back into it ♪
821
00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:42,463
More people were coming down,
more people were willing to come downtown.
822
00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:46,634
I mean, back then, people used to complain
about having to drive to downtown.
823
00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:48,887
"Oh, all the way downtown?"
824
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:51,556
They wouldn't go east of La Brea.
825
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,099
50 Cent, my boy Cartoon.
826
00:39:53,182 --> 00:39:54,893
We out here in LA, boy.
827
00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:57,228
Cartoon
was tattooing 50 Cent in there,
828
00:39:57,312 --> 00:39:59,856
and he said he had to go have a meeting.
829
00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:03,234
He was going to sign
with Jimmy Iovine at Interscope.
830
00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:04,193
Huh? Huh?
831
00:40:04,277 --> 00:40:06,321
So he had to leave
for an hour or two.
832
00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:10,658
So me and Cartoon left
in his brand-new white Escalade
833
00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:12,952
on, like, 22-inch rims.
834
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,832
About six police officers
followed us down that street.
835
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:19,667
They pulled us both out of the car.
836
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:22,545
They threw me on the ground,
put the handcuffs behind my back,
837
00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:25,798
put his shotgun
in the back of my head right here,
838
00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:27,008
and he was shaking.
839
00:40:27,091 --> 00:40:28,343
What happened was...
840
00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,428
Some motorcycle cop
was put in the hospital
841
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:34,599
by a young gentleman with a shaved head
looking a lot like me,
842
00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:36,935
driving a truck like this.
843
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:39,812
We have customers here
from out of town.
844
00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:42,315
And they go, "Hey,
you guys gotta go," then 50 Cent said...
845
00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:45,818
I ain't did it. Cartoon ain't did it.
Leave us the fuck alone.
846
00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:48,154
If you go on a talk show,
you have a big story to tell.
847
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,322
I get my tattoo done...
848
00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:53,076
-That tattoo artist got-
-Yeah, on my back. And they're harassing.
849
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,118
We ain't going nowhere.
850
00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:55,536
He's a friend of mine from Virginia,
851
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,664
but he's going to see this shit
and that's gonna be it.
852
00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,707
♪ To flip doughTo get more for sho' ♪
853
00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:01,501
♪ Get my drink onThen get on the dance floor ♪
854
00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:04,963
Did you ever get anybody, like, right
at this point, "Wait, I wanna change it"?
855
00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:08,049
All you need now is, uh,
Mister Cartoon's signature.
856
00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:10,677
What's up, y'all? It's Nas.
857
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,054
Chillin' up here with my man Cartoon.
858
00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:14,722
Hey, yo, this is Meth right here.
859
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:18,351
I just got a tattoo done
by the world-famous Cartoon.
860
00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:19,936
-Cartoon.
-Cartoon, baby.
861
00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:22,689
What?
862
00:41:30,571 --> 00:41:32,615
Cartoon is...
863
00:41:32,699 --> 00:41:33,574
just an OG.
864
00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:35,284
He's one of the illest.
865
00:41:35,368 --> 00:41:38,371
Cartoon really made
black and gray popular again.
866
00:41:38,454 --> 00:41:42,250
I'd sit down with Cartoon,
and we really wouldn't even have a plan.
867
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,293
I would trust him to just go freehand.
868
00:41:45,712 --> 00:41:48,798
I had an appointment with Cartoon.
We all came to my spot in Corona.
869
00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,675
We had just met,
but it felt, like, you know,
870
00:41:50,758 --> 00:41:52,719
we had all been homies for a long time.
871
00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,137
We got the kids with us,
872
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,097
we're taking the whole families,
Fourth of July.
873
00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,599
The first tattoo
Cartoon did on me was
874
00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:00,059
praying hands on the side of my head.
875
00:42:00,143 --> 00:42:02,145
It said, "Barker," like my family name.
876
00:42:03,271 --> 00:42:05,231
It was like therapy or something,
you know.
877
00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:07,984
Just sitting with Toons, you don't even
realize you're getting tattooed.
878
00:42:09,694 --> 00:42:11,320
I think the next tattoos he did
879
00:42:11,404 --> 00:42:13,865
was he started filling in
my ghetto blaster.
880
00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:16,075
He also did this Marilyn piece
881
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,494
right on my Adam's apple,
that one's a hard one.
882
00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,830
Look at that shit.
883
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,249
My son was born,
and we were recording the new record,
884
00:42:23,332 --> 00:42:24,792
and I'd decided that I wanted to get
885
00:42:24,876 --> 00:42:26,836
my wife and son's name tattooed,
and Travis said...
886
00:42:26,919 --> 00:42:28,629
"Then you gotta go to Cartoon,
he's the best."
887
00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:32,550
And we were literally set up
on a road case in the living room
888
00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:34,177
with all my bass equipment in it.
889
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,471
And I was nervous
about getting my first tattoos.
890
00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:38,431
I remember just as he was
about to start, he said,
891
00:42:38,514 --> 00:42:39,891
"Hey, man, I wanna give you props."
892
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:41,976
Being the first-class guy
you are, you picked
893
00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:44,145
one of the more painful spots
to get tattooed.
894
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,940
And he started tattooing "Jack."
895
00:42:48,024 --> 00:42:49,817
And about halfway through "Jack,"
896
00:42:49,901 --> 00:42:52,070
I didn't know that the wife
was gonna happen at all.
897
00:42:52,153 --> 00:42:53,821
These are still the only
tattoos that I have.
898
00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,032
I don't know, being tattooed by Cartoon
899
00:42:56,115 --> 00:42:57,992
kind of feels like you're
in an exclusive club?
900
00:42:58,076 --> 00:43:00,203
Anybody who has Cartoon tats,
901
00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:02,622
of any significance,
he's like... your brothers.
902
00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:04,207
Now I'm brothers with 50 Cent,
903
00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:06,250
Eminem, Beyoncé, and everybody else.
904
00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:09,879
Cartoon is instrumental
in bringing his tattoo style
905
00:43:09,962 --> 00:43:13,174
into the mainstream
for a really simple reason.
906
00:43:13,508 --> 00:43:15,676
He's tattooing celebrities,
907
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,386
he's tattooing athletes.
908
00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:18,930
Those people are photographed.
909
00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:21,516
You see those tattoos.
Those people are everywhere.
910
00:43:22,058 --> 00:43:25,228
I was lucky enough to go
to my first World Series and win it.
911
00:43:25,353 --> 00:43:27,688
I wanted that to stay with me
for the rest of my life.
912
00:43:27,814 --> 00:43:29,357
So I wanted Toons.
913
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,736
Being a tattoo artist,
our heroes were working out their kitchen
914
00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:35,738
or their garage at their mom's house.
915
00:43:36,364 --> 00:43:41,994
They hadn't been to really
a red-carpet level at that point.
916
00:43:42,078 --> 00:43:44,413
There was some tattooers
that was higher than others
917
00:43:44,539 --> 00:43:45,665
that we looked up to...
918
00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:50,628
but it wasn't set up that that was
the jewelry of an NBA player.
919
00:43:50,711 --> 00:43:53,381
- Kobe!
- Attacking. All the way!
920
00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:55,633
Kobe did it!
921
00:43:55,716 --> 00:43:58,427
Tattoos are a big thing in NBA.
922
00:43:58,511 --> 00:44:01,305
I mean, not just in NBA,
but just in sports culture in general.
923
00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:02,640
You know, I always said--
924
00:44:02,723 --> 00:44:04,600
'Cause I had guys on the team
that had tattoos,
925
00:44:04,684 --> 00:44:07,645
but they didn't go to Mister Cartoon,
and it becomes pretty apparent
926
00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:09,939
because I can't read
what the fuck's on their arm anyway.
927
00:44:10,022 --> 00:44:13,317
A lot of it is not
how good of a tattooer you are.
928
00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:14,610
It's your timing
929
00:44:15,236 --> 00:44:17,280
and who you surround yourself by.
930
00:44:17,363 --> 00:44:19,824
You could be
the dopest motherfucker in the world,
931
00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:23,119
but if no one sees your shit 'cause you're
in some small town somewhere,
932
00:44:23,536 --> 00:44:24,996
that's not Hollywood.
933
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:29,125
We're right here in the mix of the shit.
934
00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:36,924
I was in China.
We were staying at a hotel.
935
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:38,217
I went down to the weight room.
936
00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:40,428
There was a young woman
working behind the desk, right?
937
00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:41,721
They have a policy.
938
00:44:41,804 --> 00:44:44,724
If you have tattoos on your arms,
you have to wear long sleeves.
939
00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,184
I'm like, "What?"
940
00:44:46,267 --> 00:44:48,686
She says, "I'm sorry,
you have to put on long sleeves."
941
00:44:48,769 --> 00:44:49,937
And she goes,
942
00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:52,148
"But that's Mister Cartoon, right?
He did the artwork."
943
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:54,275
I'm like, "Dude, how did you know
that's Mister Cartoon
944
00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:55,735
but you know, I can't--?" You know.
945
00:44:55,818 --> 00:44:58,029
But she knew that was
Mister Cartoon's artwork.
946
00:44:58,112 --> 00:45:01,574
This is a young woman in Beijing.
It's so far removed from LA.
947
00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:02,867
That's big.
948
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,244
Waiting on Paul Rosenberg...
949
00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:07,830
manager of the stars,
950
00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:09,582
Eminem.
951
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:12,877
Paul, being the person he is,
952
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,713
recognized Estevan
and his photography skills,
953
00:45:15,796 --> 00:45:18,674
and Cartoon
with his art skills and packaging.
954
00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:20,009
I certainly figured out
955
00:45:20,134 --> 00:45:22,720
ways to maximize having access to them.
956
00:45:22,803 --> 00:45:25,264
You know, everything,
from working with Eminem...
957
00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:26,807
You see Big Lepke?
958
00:45:26,974 --> 00:45:29,018
...and designing the Shady Records' logo.
959
00:45:32,772 --> 00:45:35,775
When I was doing
the portrait of Eminem's daughter,
960
00:45:35,858 --> 00:45:38,027
I knew it was big, but I didn't know how.
961
00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:39,237
You know what I'm saying?
962
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,490
You know,
I wasn't looking at the major impact
963
00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:43,908
that it would have later.
964
00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:46,160
I was just doing what was in front of me.
965
00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:50,206
♪ Or even worse, they can teach hate ♪
966
00:45:50,289 --> 00:45:51,499
♪ It's like these kids ♪
967
00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:53,292
Eminem video shoot.
968
00:45:54,502 --> 00:45:56,921
Waiting on doing some tattoos
on the homie.
969
00:45:57,922 --> 00:46:01,592
They came to Detroit,
and he said, "We should do a mushroom."
970
00:46:01,676 --> 00:46:04,095
He said-- He was like,
"I can do a big-ass mushroom."
971
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,223
He did all-- my whole sleeves.
972
00:46:07,306 --> 00:46:10,351
I don't know, I got them removed
since then. I'm kidding.
973
00:46:10,434 --> 00:46:12,937
I wanna get something like this over here,
974
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:14,981
but just-- I wanna make sure
that it's the right shit
975
00:46:15,064 --> 00:46:16,649
'cause tattoos are for life.
976
00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:19,610
You know,
We could bust something out like your--
977
00:46:20,486 --> 00:46:21,946
Your daughter's portrait.
978
00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:25,199
Right here, I would probably
put something around this
979
00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:26,742
to beefen it up a little bit.
980
00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:27,702
Right.
981
00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:31,872
And maybe put another ribbon
and kind of tie it into the other side.
982
00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:34,292
It's so crazy.
983
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:40,798
One of the things was Hailie.
I wanted to put her on my arm.
984
00:46:42,466 --> 00:46:44,302
You should just outline...
985
00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,846
My favorite rappers
were getting tattooed.
986
00:46:46,929 --> 00:46:48,514
Like, that shit trips you out.
987
00:46:48,597 --> 00:46:50,433
Let me put some bullet holes.
988
00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,731
I remember being in the bathroom
989
00:46:56,814 --> 00:47:01,110
and I was tripping out
that I was the only person there
990
00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,404
documenting Cartoon tattooing
991
00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:06,240
the biggest artist in the world
at that time.
992
00:47:14,415 --> 00:47:17,001
- ♪ That's why ♪
- ♪ They call me Slim Shady ♪
993
00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:22,423
I remember, man,
I'm getting those shots
994
00:47:22,506 --> 00:47:26,093
of the greatest of all times
in our lifetime,
995
00:47:26,177 --> 00:47:29,722
like the number one celebrity, artist,
996
00:47:29,805 --> 00:47:31,349
anything in the world.
997
00:47:31,807 --> 00:47:33,225
And I was there documenting it,
998
00:47:33,309 --> 00:47:34,727
I wished, I remember, like,
999
00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:37,480
kind of like smiling in the mirror,
like I was happy.
1000
00:47:38,147 --> 00:47:40,066
I got a question I wanna ask you.
1001
00:47:41,025 --> 00:47:43,778
How many people are sick...
1002
00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:49,158
of motherfuckers talking shit about me?
1003
00:47:53,037 --> 00:47:54,872
And it was a cool feeling,
you know?
1004
00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:58,042
It made me, like, think of all the times
when there was, like,
1005
00:47:58,125 --> 00:48:00,753
a picture of Elvis Presley
getting his hair cut
1006
00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:03,005
and it's just him and the barber.
1007
00:48:03,089 --> 00:48:06,801
Damn, that photographer
had some crazy-ass access, you know?
1008
00:48:06,967 --> 00:48:08,552
Oh, yeah, get one of those too.
1009
00:48:08,636 --> 00:48:10,137
You have to put that shit on your back.
1010
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:15,935
Cartoon. Big Cartoon.
1011
00:48:16,018 --> 00:48:17,311
Call him Big Cartoon now.
1012
00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:18,646
Guy's good, man.
1013
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:19,855
He's pretty decent.
1014
00:48:21,524 --> 00:48:25,194
Estevan's eye for seeing
what angle to shoot something...
1015
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:29,365
how to bring someone's best look
out of them.
1016
00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:33,953
A lot of other photographers,
that's what they don't understand.
1017
00:48:34,829 --> 00:48:36,705
They don't know
how to make someone look good.
1018
00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:40,918
George Lopez!
1019
00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:45,756
When I got my star
in the Walk of Fame, Estevan came over
1020
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,591
and took
this fucking amazing picture of me
1021
00:48:47,675 --> 00:48:49,009
surrounded by the fans,
1022
00:48:49,093 --> 00:48:51,303
and thousands of people,
maybe a couple thousand people.
1023
00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:53,389
And to get that,
1024
00:48:53,472 --> 00:48:55,766
of me and my suit, of me with the flag,
1025
00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:57,768
of me surrounded by, you know,
1026
00:48:57,852 --> 00:49:01,355
other Latinos right there
on Hollywood Boulevard was-- It was great.
1027
00:49:06,569 --> 00:49:09,113
Same thing, that's why
he gets a lot of jobs in hip-hop.
1028
00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:12,241
'Cause he knows hip-hop.
1029
00:49:14,034 --> 00:49:15,327
Grew up in that shit.
1030
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:18,789
So it's better for someone from the inside
1031
00:49:19,331 --> 00:49:21,500
to shoot the outside, you know?
1032
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:28,299
On my Ego Trippin' cover, me and Estevan,
1033
00:49:28,382 --> 00:49:30,885
we went back to my old high school,
Poly High School,
1034
00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:34,346
got an old B210
like I used to have in high school,
1035
00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:35,890
had on my Letterman jacket,
1036
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:37,892
and it just felt like
I was in high school.
1037
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:38,976
That shit was hard.
1038
00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:42,104
But only he could capture what I wanted.
1039
00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:44,982
This is an era
when Dogg didn't have money.
1040
00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:46,567
He understood that.
1041
00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:50,237
Shoot Snoop Doggy Dogg.
Snoop Doggy fizzle fizzle.
1042
00:49:56,744 --> 00:50:00,789
If Estevan did your album cover,
Cartoon was doing the artwork.
1043
00:50:01,624 --> 00:50:04,043
Some people try to do
everything by themselves.
1044
00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:06,837
We just did different ends of the table.
1045
00:50:06,921 --> 00:50:09,548
He covered photography
1046
00:50:09,632 --> 00:50:12,593
while I would do the logo,
I would draw the concept.
1047
00:50:28,192 --> 00:50:32,238
I've seen this, when they're snapping
400 pictures to get some shit,
1048
00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:34,031
and I've seen this guy walk out...
1049
00:50:35,824 --> 00:50:36,659
Bam.
1050
00:50:36,742 --> 00:50:38,202
Stand against that wall. Click.
1051
00:50:38,285 --> 00:50:40,162
And then you see it,
it could be an album cover
1052
00:50:40,246 --> 00:50:41,956
or, like, the cover of a magazine.
1053
00:50:50,339 --> 00:50:53,384
You feel like you're being directed,
like you're in the hands of the director.
1054
00:50:53,467 --> 00:50:55,928
I love it when a director
knows exactly what he wants
1055
00:50:56,011 --> 00:50:58,097
and he says, "Look, this is what I want."
1056
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:02,268
Okay, cool. You got hired to direct me,
I got hired to act.
1057
00:51:04,103 --> 00:51:07,982
I was around lowriders and gangsters,
and I was around hip-hop.
1058
00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:09,900
With both of those comes girls.
1059
00:51:10,985 --> 00:51:12,236
LA culture.
1060
00:51:12,778 --> 00:51:15,406
Like, I get Estevan's book. Wow.
1061
00:51:22,621 --> 00:51:26,250
I always thought my dad's work
was very inspiring.
1062
00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:31,005
For girls, like, he just captures beauty,
like, so perfectly.
1063
00:51:35,217 --> 00:51:37,136
A lot of the art too
comes from jail,
1064
00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:39,388
where guys are sitting in a cell
1065
00:51:39,471 --> 00:51:41,682
and fantasizing about their girl.
1066
00:51:42,224 --> 00:51:43,517
I always looked at it
1067
00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:46,437
as really uplifting women.
1068
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,189
They may not have any clothes on,
or they'd be topless.
1069
00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:52,776
I think as an artist,
I always looked at the beauty of it,
1070
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,237
but knowing who to shoot,
1071
00:51:55,946 --> 00:51:58,282
where to shoot, when to shoot,
1072
00:51:58,365 --> 00:52:00,659
you look at that, you're like,
"That shit's real."
1073
00:52:01,368 --> 00:52:02,995
If I wasn't shooting LA culture,
1074
00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:05,831
I was going on tourwith bands like Blink-182,
1075
00:52:05,914 --> 00:52:07,875
only I wasn't a road manager anymore.
1076
00:52:08,709 --> 00:52:12,171
Right about the time we went
on that tour to Iraq and Europe,
1077
00:52:12,254 --> 00:52:14,506
touring was, like, more fun
when you brought friends.
1078
00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:17,468
Having Estevan out there was so fun.
1079
00:52:17,551 --> 00:52:20,179
It is freezing like a motherfucker
in Paris.
1080
00:52:20,262 --> 00:52:23,349
The tour
that Estevan came with us in Europe
1081
00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:26,393
was a very difficult time
1082
00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:27,811
in Blink's history.
1083
00:52:27,895 --> 00:52:29,271
We were arguing...
1084
00:52:30,564 --> 00:52:31,565
the entire tour.
1085
00:52:31,649 --> 00:52:33,859
Leave me fucking be! I'm fucking tired!
1086
00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:43,077
- How was that?
- It was the shit.
1087
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,912
- That was fun, right?
- Hell, yeah.
1088
00:52:46,288 --> 00:52:50,376
The last show that we played
before the band broke up the first time,
1089
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,670
we finished the last note,
and I thought to myself,
1090
00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:56,006
"This is probably gonna be the last show.
This feels like the end of something."
1091
00:52:56,090 --> 00:52:58,175
And Estevan came on stage and said,
1092
00:52:58,258 --> 00:53:00,135
"Hey, I wanna get
a shot of the three of you guys."
1093
00:53:00,219 --> 00:53:01,970
And it's actually
on our Greatest Hits album
1094
00:53:02,054 --> 00:53:03,222
that came out after that.
1095
00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:07,518
It goes back to Estevan's ethos
1096
00:53:07,601 --> 00:53:09,645
of putting himself in these situations
1097
00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:13,357
where he is able to document things
that are happening with other people.
1098
00:53:25,035 --> 00:53:28,497
The United States and our allies
have prevailed.
1099
00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:32,876
Estevan came with us
when we went overseas
1100
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,629
to the Middle East
to meet and perform for the troops.
1101
00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:40,134
When we got to Iraq, everyone
was kind of shook about going there
1102
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,510
'cause the war had just started.
1103
00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:43,387
I don't have any idea what to expect.
1104
00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:45,055
I'm just going in, having this adventure.
1105
00:53:45,139 --> 00:53:46,348
It's really cool.
1106
00:53:46,432 --> 00:53:47,975
It was scary,
1107
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,977
it was hot, it was dusty.
1108
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,396
It was like five or six days
1109
00:53:52,479 --> 00:53:54,732
of being transported
to an entirely different world.
1110
00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:55,983
It's like a movie.
1111
00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:57,818
We were on a nuclear submarine
1112
00:53:57,901 --> 00:54:01,238
literally crawling in the torpedo tubes.
1113
00:54:02,865 --> 00:54:06,535
So that whole trip was fireworks.
It was scary as fuck.
1114
00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:08,412
It was definitely
an eye-opening experience.
1115
00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:09,788
Travis, what's your job, Travis?
1116
00:54:09,872 --> 00:54:11,915
-I play the drums.
-Drummer, all right. How are you?
1117
00:54:11,999 --> 00:54:13,667
Don't hit the torpedo buttons.
1118
00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:15,794
You fire torpedoes? You shot one?
1119
00:54:15,878 --> 00:54:17,337
- I shot one.
- Cool.
1120
00:54:17,629 --> 00:54:21,508
We were in a marine forward base
on the border of Iraq.
1121
00:54:21,592 --> 00:54:24,094
We got Blink-182 in the house!
1122
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,474
- Don't turn the key on.
- I won't.
1123
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:30,225
I guess things were getting heated,
1124
00:54:30,768 --> 00:54:32,269
so we took a COD plane
1125
00:54:32,352 --> 00:54:33,729
that boomeranged us
1126
00:54:33,812 --> 00:54:35,981
off of the aircraft carrier.
1127
00:54:36,064 --> 00:54:38,442
But it was insane.
I was really glad that he was there
1128
00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:39,735
to get those photos.
1129
00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:50,662
As a lot of photographers
were breaking into digital photography,
1130
00:54:50,746 --> 00:54:53,207
Estevan stuck to film
1131
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,292
and the development process.
1132
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:57,503
Because it's grainy
and it looks like film,
1133
00:54:57,586 --> 00:54:59,963
it's a document of one specific moment.
1134
00:55:00,047 --> 00:55:02,716
Before you know it, you know,
Estevan was doing more directing.
1135
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,927
Started to do mad videos for everybody.
1136
00:55:05,010 --> 00:55:07,387
♪ Hold you down ♪
1137
00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:12,059
Estevan did
the first D12 video we ever shot.
1138
00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:15,646
It was supposed to be
a gritty, grimy-looking video,
1139
00:55:15,729 --> 00:55:18,232
and Estevan captured that perfectly.
1140
00:55:20,442 --> 00:55:22,945
I know we shot the outside of the house,
the Dresden house,
1141
00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:25,989
but I'm pretty sure we shot
the inside of it too.
1142
00:55:26,073 --> 00:55:27,574
I'm like, "Yeah, that's the bathroom."
1143
00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:33,747
It wasn't really a lot of fun
dressing up...
1144
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,083
like Richard Simmons.
1145
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,585
But, hey, man, at that point in time,
1146
00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:40,462
I was doing whatever it took.
1147
00:55:40,546 --> 00:55:42,631
He directed a couple of Cypress videos.
1148
00:55:42,714 --> 00:55:44,716
♪ Hello, my name is Dr. Greenthumb ♪
1149
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,052
♪ Hello, my name is Dr. Greenthumb ♪
1150
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:48,262
♪ I'd like to tell you... ♪
1151
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:51,598
You know, we had the same ideas,
we grew up in the same part of the planet,
1152
00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:54,059
so it wasn't hard for him to know
what we were gonna like
1153
00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:55,644
and what we wanted to see in our videos.
1154
00:55:55,727 --> 00:55:58,063
♪ Hello, my name is Dr. Greenthumb ♪
1155
00:55:58,146 --> 00:56:00,774
And then, when we went down
to Mexico City, in DF,
1156
00:56:01,275 --> 00:56:03,819
we had thousands and thousands
of kids following us
1157
00:56:03,902 --> 00:56:04,945
on the street that day,
1158
00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:06,154
and in the midst of it all,
1159
00:56:06,238 --> 00:56:08,740
Estevan was on point
the whole time with the camera, you know.
1160
00:56:08,824 --> 00:56:11,118
♪ Here is something you can't understand ♪
1161
00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:13,161
He understood
what made a good story
1162
00:56:13,245 --> 00:56:15,455
and he understood what was authentic.
1163
00:56:19,585 --> 00:56:20,544
I like that.
1164
00:56:20,627 --> 00:56:22,671
I'll tell you when,
just keep the light on him
1165
00:56:22,754 --> 00:56:24,214
so when I sweep back around--
1166
00:56:24,423 --> 00:56:26,133
With this video, it was an idea
1167
00:56:26,216 --> 00:56:29,136
that was thought out by the director,Estevan Oriol.
1168
00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:31,889
He directed this video
that really shook everything up.
1169
00:56:31,972 --> 00:56:33,932
It was really like, "What in the world?"
1170
00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:35,684
Like it's the real deal.
1171
00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:39,229
Having him come in
and direct a video for us
1172
00:56:39,313 --> 00:56:41,690
just, I don't know,
brought a really element of cool
1173
00:56:41,773 --> 00:56:43,442
that I think was really ahead of its time.
1174
00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:47,613
That shit was, like, really amazing.
Just the way he-- His style.
1175
00:56:48,363 --> 00:56:51,992
The "Down" video was fun.
It was the first time I ever met Trigz.
1176
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:56,288
It was I think the first time
we ever brought Mark and Tom to the hood.
1177
00:56:56,371 --> 00:56:58,373
I think they were tripping a little bit.
1178
00:56:58,916 --> 00:57:02,002
He put me in the Blink-182 video.
1179
00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:02,961
As a cop.
1180
00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:04,922
What I loved was the authenticity.
1181
00:57:05,005 --> 00:57:07,925
Here was an example of the culture
1182
00:57:08,008 --> 00:57:09,801
needing another voice.
1183
00:57:09,885 --> 00:57:11,637
Here I was this cop after this guy,
1184
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,597
he's on the run,
and there was a helicopter.
1185
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,641
You know, shot in the LA Basin and...
1186
00:57:15,724 --> 00:57:17,517
There were people in the video
1187
00:57:17,601 --> 00:57:19,561
that looked like for real LA.
1188
00:57:21,021 --> 00:57:24,066
But that was fun, man,
that video came out so cool and it had...
1189
00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:27,027
just a different energy
than anything we ever did and...
1190
00:57:27,527 --> 00:57:29,863
Estevan just really killed the visual.
1191
00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:46,338
You ready?
Let's set up the shot.
1192
00:57:46,421 --> 00:57:48,006
Are you gonna sit on the chair?
1193
00:57:48,131 --> 00:57:49,800
- Can I direct?
- Yes, sir.
1194
00:57:49,883 --> 00:57:51,510
Don't follow me.
You're gonna be on the shot.
1195
00:57:51,593 --> 00:57:54,262
- Tell me what you're gonna do.
- I'm gonna make a documentary
1196
00:57:54,346 --> 00:57:55,806
and talk about the Sixth Street Bridge.
1197
00:57:55,889 --> 00:57:57,349
- Ready?
- Yes.
1198
00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:59,476
Okay, so, we're sitting right here
1199
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:02,729
at what was formerly known
as the Sixth Street Bridge.
1200
00:58:02,938 --> 00:58:04,982
So you see these pieces right here?
1201
00:58:05,899 --> 00:58:08,860
There was two arches.
They were part of the bridge.
1202
00:58:08,944 --> 00:58:10,028
That's them now.
1203
00:58:10,988 --> 00:58:13,365
I have 20 years of photos
1204
00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:15,158
of this street
1205
00:58:15,242 --> 00:58:17,661
and where this bridge was,
and that bridge.
1206
00:58:17,744 --> 00:58:19,037
And they're gonna redo it.
1207
00:58:19,121 --> 00:58:21,248
They're gonna have a poodle park here,
1208
00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:23,542
a cappuccino bar, a juice bar.
1209
00:58:23,625 --> 00:58:25,377
This whole area is changing.
1210
00:58:29,381 --> 00:58:32,843
This was the access way
to the LA River.
1211
00:58:33,176 --> 00:58:35,512
And this was like our playground,
our stomping ground.
1212
00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:39,016
I had a lot of good photo shoots here,
a lot of good times.
1213
00:58:39,224 --> 00:58:40,225
Get it out of the street.
1214
00:58:40,308 --> 00:58:44,021
I was shooting a lot of women,
gangsters, and lowriders,
1215
00:58:44,104 --> 00:58:46,064
'cause, you know,
that's what I was around.
1216
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:50,902
♪ Aye, baby, aye, baby ♪
1217
00:58:50,986 --> 00:58:54,197
♪ Aye, baby, get some bubblegumIn this motherfucker or somethin'... ♪
1218
00:58:54,281 --> 00:58:56,783
I don't know what it is
about California, man.
1219
00:58:57,325 --> 00:59:01,413
Don't let the palm trees
and the white picket fences fool you.
1220
00:59:01,496 --> 00:59:03,498
There's wrought iron on the windows
1221
00:59:03,582 --> 00:59:06,043
and the murder rate
is through the roof, you know.
1222
00:59:07,461 --> 00:59:09,421
Perrito,
don't worry about nothing. I got this.
1223
00:59:09,504 --> 00:59:10,589
Are we keeping score?
1224
00:59:13,425 --> 00:59:14,384
Hey, man.
1225
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,929
Pass already, dog.
1226
00:59:18,847 --> 00:59:21,892
I was shooting this girl
that was a gang member.
1227
00:59:21,975 --> 00:59:23,268
She just threw up LA.
1228
00:59:23,351 --> 00:59:24,311
LA, baby.
1229
00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:27,481
And I went in and just took
two frames of the LA.
1230
00:59:27,564 --> 00:59:29,941
♪ I got bitches in the living roomGettin' it on... ♪
1231
00:59:30,025 --> 00:59:32,110
He caught it first.
A lot of the photographers
1232
00:59:32,194 --> 00:59:36,573
didn't know some of that type
of finger lingo, if you will, you know,
1233
00:59:36,656 --> 00:59:38,408
when you throw up the West Coast
1234
00:59:38,492 --> 00:59:40,911
or you throw up LA,
whatever clique you're from.
1235
00:59:40,994 --> 00:59:43,205
A lot of people
didn't wanna use that photo.
1236
00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:45,040
They said it was too gang-related.
1237
00:59:45,123 --> 00:59:46,541
At that time,
1238
00:59:46,625 --> 00:59:49,211
if the wrong person saw you doing that,
1239
00:59:49,294 --> 00:59:52,089
you'd get beat up,
or shot at or fucking stabbed.
1240
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:53,590
Throwing up the L and the A like that,
1241
00:59:53,673 --> 00:59:55,509
that was something that we did
back in the day.
1242
00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:58,428
And that was
the first representation of it.
1243
00:59:58,512 --> 01:00:01,014
Now it's a global thing
where kids in other countries
1244
01:00:01,098 --> 01:00:03,391
send me pictures of them
throwing up that sign.
1245
01:00:03,475 --> 01:00:05,143
That's pretty cool, man.
You know what I mean?
1246
01:00:05,227 --> 01:00:06,645
His LA hands photo?
1247
01:00:06,728 --> 01:00:07,687
That's Estevan.
1248
01:00:07,771 --> 01:00:10,273
That shit's been copied so much.
1249
01:00:10,690 --> 01:00:12,651
So many times. Ripped off.
1250
01:00:12,734 --> 01:00:14,277
Many have tried to bite it.
1251
01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:16,863
I see the LA hands,
and I know it's a bootleg.
1252
01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:18,949
Starbucks is ripping him off. Gosh!
1253
01:00:19,032 --> 01:00:20,200
The H&M thing?
1254
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:22,786
To steal from artists like that,
their images.
1255
01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:24,037
They have it on T-shirts.
1256
01:00:24,287 --> 01:00:26,915
The LA symbol's notorious.
1257
01:00:26,998 --> 01:00:29,668
Everybody, you know,
and their mom, was doing it.
1258
01:00:29,751 --> 01:00:31,920
- The Mayor's throwing it up.
- Boom!
1259
01:00:32,003 --> 01:00:35,590
People gonna copy it, people gonna try it,
but we all know where it came from.
1260
01:00:35,674 --> 01:00:39,469
I advise everybody to dig into the roots
of anything they do
1261
01:00:39,553 --> 01:00:42,931
and see where it came from
and pay homage to the person before them.
1262
01:00:43,014 --> 01:00:45,767
It was iconic.
It's an iconic picture.
1263
01:00:49,104 --> 01:00:52,899
One of the things
that is there with Chicano art
1264
01:00:52,983 --> 01:00:54,192
is violence,
1265
01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:55,986
is poverty,
1266
01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:57,821
is addiction,
1267
01:00:58,405 --> 01:00:59,823
alcoholism.
1268
01:01:05,412 --> 01:01:08,248
When I met Estevan, I was
struggling through a lot of relapses.
1269
01:01:08,331 --> 01:01:12,169
We were in a motel, and I called Estevan.
I go, "Hey, I'm on a good one, man.
1270
01:01:12,252 --> 01:01:14,504
You wanna film some footage?
So why don't you come on through,
1271
01:01:14,588 --> 01:01:16,840
because we got it going on
real good right here."
1272
01:01:16,923 --> 01:01:19,676
I had every drug in my system,
'cause I don't discriminate.
1273
01:01:19,759 --> 01:01:21,469
I just went on a binge.
1274
01:01:21,553 --> 01:01:23,972
A simple binge.
Everybody does it once in a while.
1275
01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:27,225
You know, some people binge on donuts.
Some people binge on heroin.
1276
01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:30,478
This is some new shit I came across.
1277
01:01:31,605 --> 01:01:33,481
These are five-dollar bolsas.
1278
01:01:33,732 --> 01:01:35,150
I love it. There's no excuse.
1279
01:01:35,233 --> 01:01:37,861
I love to get high on this.
I love the feeling I get from it.
1280
01:01:39,863 --> 01:01:42,616
If you don't cook it right,
it fucks your stomach good.
1281
01:01:48,371 --> 01:01:50,498
This is the picture they took
of the heroin
1282
01:01:50,582 --> 01:01:53,627
that wasn't getting me high no more
with the syringe, the crack pipe,
1283
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:55,962
and I don't know
why I had the nail clipper there.
1284
01:01:56,046 --> 01:01:57,255
God only knows, right?
1285
01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:03,303
Estevan could take me into the lab
1286
01:02:03,386 --> 01:02:05,513
and pull out all these pictures
and I'll go,
1287
01:02:05,597 --> 01:02:08,475
"What the fuck? Are you serious, bro?"
1288
01:02:12,437 --> 01:02:15,023
I looked like
an Ethiopian research monkey.
1289
01:02:17,692 --> 01:02:19,486
I don't even know why I'm alive today.
1290
01:02:19,569 --> 01:02:22,030
For some good reason,
the good Lord didn't drop me
1291
01:02:22,113 --> 01:02:23,406
and put me on my back.
1292
01:02:23,490 --> 01:02:25,700
Sometimes, I sell real shit. Sometimes--
1293
01:02:26,493 --> 01:02:29,037
And I was in a bad stage right here.
1294
01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:31,498
And those are balloons of heroin
in my mouth.
1295
01:02:31,623 --> 01:02:33,667
I sell fake shit. All this is fake.
1296
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:34,626
This is all fake.
1297
01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:36,753
Either way, this is getting sold,
all right?
1298
01:02:36,836 --> 01:02:39,089
Because, see,
you can't buy drugs on the street.
1299
01:02:39,172 --> 01:02:41,341
That's illegal.
You can't sell them. It's illegal.
1300
01:02:41,424 --> 01:02:43,635
There's no drugs in here.
So it's a bungle case.
1301
01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:46,096
So the proof is in the pudding,
ladies and gentlemen.
1302
01:02:46,554 --> 01:02:48,390
If you wanna know
the real street culture
1303
01:02:48,473 --> 01:02:51,059
and that street life,
open one of Estevan's books.
1304
01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:54,271
And this is where it leads to.
Everything leads to this picture.
1305
01:02:54,813 --> 01:02:56,648
This is 2003,
1306
01:02:56,731 --> 01:02:58,984
July 9th or 8th, I believe.
1307
01:02:59,067 --> 01:03:02,404
I got shot
in front of the Econo Lodge hotel.
1308
01:03:02,487 --> 01:03:05,490
From where you're at, from where
the camera's at, they shot me six times.
1309
01:03:05,573 --> 01:03:06,866
I took five bullets there.
1310
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:08,910
And they came and told me
I didn't have insurance,
1311
01:03:08,994 --> 01:03:12,080
so five days after that, I walked out,
caught walking pneumonia, almost died,
1312
01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:15,125
and then went back and had to stay
another additional 30 days.
1313
01:03:15,333 --> 01:03:18,295
See? Karma hits, 'cause I was supposed
to be doing Estevan a favor
1314
01:03:18,378 --> 01:03:19,337
and moving somebody.
1315
01:03:19,421 --> 01:03:20,672
See how that works?
1316
01:03:20,964 --> 01:03:23,550
The '90s were very, very violent.
1317
01:03:23,633 --> 01:03:26,136
You saw the peak of gang violence.
1318
01:03:26,386 --> 01:03:30,098
You saw people that were there
that seen enemies they didn't like,
1319
01:03:30,181 --> 01:03:31,975
they just took off on them right there.
1320
01:03:32,058 --> 01:03:34,561
You could hear the bullets going by.
1321
01:03:36,021 --> 01:03:38,481
They were trying to stop here, homie.
They were coming too fast.
1322
01:03:38,565 --> 01:03:41,901
So they stopped right here.
And they went just like, "Hey, homie."
1323
01:03:42,944 --> 01:03:44,070
Man!
1324
01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:45,530
I hit the floor quick, eh.
1325
01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:47,115
Why were they shooting at you?
1326
01:03:47,198 --> 01:03:48,908
See, this is a black neighborhood, right?
1327
01:03:48,992 --> 01:03:51,703
I guess they're going at it
with a Hispanic gang over there.
1328
01:03:52,245 --> 01:03:53,705
You know what I mean? Look at me, dog.
1329
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:57,292
- Look right here, homie.
- Yeah.
1330
01:03:58,460 --> 01:03:59,711
♪ Word up, son, word ♪
1331
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,758
♪ Yeah ♪
1332
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,302
♪ To all the killersAnd the hundred-dollar billers ♪
1333
01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:09,554
♪ Yo, I got the phone thingKnow I'm sayin' ♪
1334
01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:12,849
♪ For real niggasWho ain't got no feelings, feelings... ♪
1335
01:04:13,099 --> 01:04:14,225
You like that.
1336
01:04:14,768 --> 01:04:17,020
♪ Just watch my backI got the front, yo ♪
1337
01:04:17,103 --> 01:04:18,438
♪ Check it out now ♪
1338
01:04:18,521 --> 01:04:19,689
Right there, West Los.
1339
01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:20,940
School of hard knocks.
1340
01:04:21,024 --> 01:04:22,233
Sometimes hard rocks.
1341
01:04:22,317 --> 01:04:24,110
Hard knocks and cooked rocks.
1342
01:04:24,194 --> 01:04:26,154
From stealin' and dealin'
to rollin' and chillin'.
1343
01:04:26,237 --> 01:04:28,323
Smack. Oh, ready.
1344
01:04:28,948 --> 01:04:30,408
♪ Queensbridge murderers ♪
1345
01:04:30,492 --> 01:04:32,786
♪ The Mobb comes equipped for warfareBeware ♪
1346
01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:34,329
♪ Of my crime family who got... ♪
1347
01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:36,831
My eagle right here,
'cause I'm Mexican-American.
1348
01:04:36,915 --> 01:04:39,250
I'm American-made, Mexican descent.
1349
01:04:39,334 --> 01:04:40,919
♪ Your brain with your nose bone ♪
1350
01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:43,546
♪ You all alone in these streets, cousinEvery man... ♪
1351
01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:46,508
They call me Speedy,
one of my fans gave me the name.
1352
01:04:46,841 --> 01:04:48,718
In there,
the tattoo shop is your cell.
1353
01:04:48,802 --> 01:04:51,471
Just a couple of cases of soups
and coffee, man, from prison.
1354
01:04:51,554 --> 01:04:54,432
That's what they charge you in there
to do this type of thing.
1355
01:04:54,516 --> 01:04:57,602
Nowadays I guess that's just
a way to look cool, but...
1356
01:04:57,685 --> 01:04:59,020
All these tattoos right here?
1357
01:04:59,104 --> 01:05:00,480
They were basically earned,
1358
01:05:00,563 --> 01:05:02,941
they were basically put on me
for a reason.
1359
01:05:03,441 --> 01:05:05,819
All my tattoos
were done in prison, single needle.
1360
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:07,237
Never got tattooed in a shop.
1361
01:05:08,029 --> 01:05:11,199
They were kind of like the old black
and gray feel to the ink.
1362
01:05:11,282 --> 01:05:13,159
♪ Don't make meHave to call your name out... ♪
1363
01:05:13,243 --> 01:05:16,079
Some tattoos that some people have,
they put them on
1364
01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:19,207
because maybe they were in a lifestyle
where a life was lost.
1365
01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:21,167
Not to say that they took the life,
1366
01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,420
because we're not gonna say that
'cause we're on camera.
1367
01:05:24,003 --> 01:05:27,048
When I sleeve somebody,
they can't go into regular society,
1368
01:05:27,132 --> 01:05:30,260
but little by little,
those people will be business owners.
1369
01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,721
You know, over the next 10, 20 years,
those people that are getting sleeves
1370
01:05:33,805 --> 01:05:36,474
will be business owners
and shit will change up for them.
1371
01:05:37,225 --> 01:05:40,854
That's okay. It's a trend now.
We got the soccer moms putting tattoos on.
1372
01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:43,064
They're doing shit
that we were looked down on.
1373
01:05:43,148 --> 01:05:45,692
We were putting these tattoos
'cause we were outcasts,
1374
01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:48,153
because society rejected us.
1375
01:05:48,236 --> 01:05:51,114
Now they're putting them on
because now society accepts it?
1376
01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:53,783
So now I might just start
taking them all off.
1377
01:05:56,703 --> 01:05:59,205
We're interested
in the darkest shit in life.
1378
01:05:59,414 --> 01:06:01,374
Ghetto bird in the sky...
1379
01:06:02,417 --> 01:06:04,919
homeless shit and drug addicts.
1380
01:06:05,295 --> 01:06:08,631
Watching and observing those cultures,
you know what I mean?
1381
01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,885
What happened to your hand?
You got arthritis?
1382
01:06:11,968 --> 01:06:14,387
No, I-- My ex-boyfriend broke it.
1383
01:06:14,471 --> 01:06:15,472
Oh, okay.
1384
01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:18,391
Okay, look, if you go out this way,
and go on the side,
1385
01:06:18,475 --> 01:06:21,436
go straight all the way down,
there's a little alley right there.
1386
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:22,896
I'll go check it out.
1387
01:06:23,021 --> 01:06:24,647
- Take it easy.
- Bye, thank you.
1388
01:06:25,815 --> 01:06:28,568
When you're in the streets
in LA, in the bad neighborhoods,
1389
01:06:28,651 --> 01:06:30,320
it's like your blood is flowing,
1390
01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:32,739
the adrenaline is there.
1391
01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:37,327
When you know that it's an active area
and some shit might happen,
1392
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:40,997
it's kind of like, okay, cool, you know,
you gotta be on point, you know.
1393
01:06:41,206 --> 01:06:43,166
Open the eyes on the back of your head,
1394
01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:46,377
'cause if you're just walking around
all "ladi da, da,"
1395
01:06:46,461 --> 01:06:48,379
you know, like an idiot,
you could lose that way.
1396
01:06:48,463 --> 01:06:50,798
They're just looking
for someone to fuck with, so...
1397
01:06:50,882 --> 01:06:52,550
Right here, you know what I'm saying?
1398
01:06:52,967 --> 01:06:54,469
Just gotta make sure you're strapped.
1399
01:06:55,261 --> 01:06:57,514
A lot of people we've known have died.
1400
01:06:58,598 --> 01:07:00,433
Can't even think of how that would be
1401
01:07:00,517 --> 01:07:01,976
if Cartoon passed away.
1402
01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:10,193
We've had to make out wills before,
1403
01:07:10,276 --> 01:07:13,029
and it was, like,
the will went to, like, each other.
1404
01:07:13,321 --> 01:07:15,281
We would look out for each other's family.
1405
01:07:16,616 --> 01:07:19,536
Let's see what we have here
in this little box.
1406
01:07:20,662 --> 01:07:23,957
This is my friend Mono. He passed away.
1407
01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:28,211
He's the guy that introduced me
and my wife to each other.
1408
01:07:28,294 --> 01:07:29,170
Oh, yeah?
1409
01:07:29,254 --> 01:07:31,256
And he introduced Cartoon to his wife.
1410
01:07:32,632 --> 01:07:35,760
Right here, this is one
of my favorite pictures of all times.
1411
01:07:35,843 --> 01:07:37,220
His name was Chato.
1412
01:07:37,303 --> 01:07:38,930
Rest in peace. He died.
1413
01:07:39,347 --> 01:07:40,723
Trigz got shot.
1414
01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:44,644
He got murdered
'cause he got into a fight with somebody.
1415
01:07:44,727 --> 01:07:46,312
Rest in peace.
1416
01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:49,482
This was another guy that was shot.
His name was Nene.
1417
01:07:50,817 --> 01:07:53,361
I think he got shot 33 times.
1418
01:07:53,444 --> 01:07:55,738
- What happened to him?
- He died.
1419
01:07:56,990 --> 01:07:59,075
You know, I think they're living
the life they wanted to
1420
01:07:59,158 --> 01:08:01,452
and they died doing what they loved doing.
1421
01:08:01,536 --> 01:08:05,039
Those guys were gangsters
and they died doing some gangster shit.
1422
01:08:05,123 --> 01:08:07,750
So you think they kind
of dig being a gangster.
1423
01:08:07,834 --> 01:08:08,793
They'd rather do that--
1424
01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:11,254
Yeah, they loved it, or else
they wouldn't have been a gangster.
1425
01:08:12,672 --> 01:08:15,800
♪ I spend my time in the hood ♪
1426
01:08:15,883 --> 01:08:19,804
♪ That old Florencia district ♪
1427
01:08:20,847 --> 01:08:23,600
♪ I don't play games ♪
1428
01:08:23,683 --> 01:08:25,685
♪ And if you ask for it ♪
1429
01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:29,230
♪ I carry an AK-47 ♪
1430
01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:32,942
♪ I was shot five times ♪
1431
01:08:33,067 --> 01:08:36,696
♪ And almost lost my life ♪
1432
01:08:37,697 --> 01:08:40,199
♪ At the gates of hell ♪
1433
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,370
♪ A smiling Devil awaits ♪
1434
01:08:44,996 --> 01:08:48,166
♪ These are facts of life ♪
1435
01:08:48,708 --> 01:08:53,421
♪ Consequences of this life ♪
1436
01:08:54,255 --> 01:08:59,594
♪ Because everythingMust be paid for in this world ♪
1437
01:09:00,345 --> 01:09:05,350
♪ I spend my time smokingWith my homies in the hood ♪
1438
01:09:05,516 --> 01:09:08,561
♪ I come from that gangster clique ♪
1439
01:09:08,645 --> 01:09:11,230
♪ Don't you dare betray us ♪
1440
01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,858
♪ I am a man of respect ♪
1441
01:09:13,941 --> 01:09:16,444
♪ And my word is worth a lot ♪
1442
01:09:16,527 --> 01:09:19,155
♪ Around Converse and Miramonte ♪
1443
01:09:19,238 --> 01:09:21,866
♪ I patrol through the night ♪
1444
01:09:32,919 --> 01:09:36,756
♪ Oh, darling ♪
1445
01:09:39,217 --> 01:09:43,846
♪ I'm so blue and lonely ♪
1446
01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:51,354
♪ Want your love here only ♪
1447
01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:56,275
♪ Please... ♪
1448
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,778
That violence, that poverty,
1449
01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,321
that madness,
1450
01:10:00,697 --> 01:10:02,573
spawned a beautiful art form
1451
01:10:02,657 --> 01:10:04,367
of music, and tattoos,
1452
01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:06,369
and wall murals,
1453
01:10:06,452 --> 01:10:08,955
pinstripe, and gold leaf.
1454
01:10:09,038 --> 01:10:12,417
Those guys sitting in cells
that will never get out
1455
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,378
helped shape an art form,
1456
01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:18,172
this rose out of a crack in the concrete.
1457
01:10:18,756 --> 01:10:21,843
Now you have a new wave of Chicano artists
1458
01:10:21,926 --> 01:10:24,262
that can focus on Chicano pride.
1459
01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:27,807
To be Chicano
means identifying with your roots.
1460
01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,684
The number one thing
is family.
1461
01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:30,685
It's all about family.
1462
01:10:32,645 --> 01:10:35,398
♪ I want to hold you ♪
1463
01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:37,984
♪ Squeeze you... ♪
1464
01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:40,945
You don't really hear
about the heart of a Chicano,
1465
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,364
but you can see it in a lowrider.
1466
01:10:43,448 --> 01:10:44,991
The way we build our cars,
1467
01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:48,119
they're old Benny's thrown away
that we pick up and we shine.
1468
01:10:48,661 --> 01:10:51,330
It's almost like watching
a Chicano's heart
1469
01:10:51,414 --> 01:10:53,541
being poured out onto paint
1470
01:10:53,666 --> 01:10:56,878
and coating a vehicle with love, you know?
1471
01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:01,424
Those people that threw them away
wish they had them back
1472
01:11:01,507 --> 01:11:04,427
after they see them all fixed up
and clean and shined up.
1473
01:11:04,886 --> 01:11:07,263
You don't own a lowrider.
You are a lowrider.
1474
01:11:07,388 --> 01:11:10,183
Promoting a great culture in America.
1475
01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:13,144
There are people
that are incredibly wealthy
1476
01:11:13,227 --> 01:11:16,147
that actually know the culture
1477
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,691
and are admirers of the culture.
1478
01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:21,068
The culture grew to places
1479
01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:22,445
like Japan, Europe,
1480
01:11:22,528 --> 01:11:23,780
South America.
1481
01:11:23,863 --> 01:11:26,449
They introduced
the whole rest of the world basically
1482
01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:28,326
to the East LA esthetic.
1483
01:11:34,665 --> 01:11:37,752
You go to Japan
and you see some of the Japanese kids
1484
01:11:37,835 --> 01:11:39,587
dressing like cholos.
1485
01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:41,172
To the T.
1486
01:11:41,255 --> 01:11:43,049
You would think, they could put on glasses
1487
01:11:43,132 --> 01:11:46,469
and have the whole thing
and they could look all "Chicanoed-out"
1488
01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:48,471
until they started to speak.
1489
01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,223
Sheeba city ghetto family.
1490
01:11:52,225 --> 01:11:54,477
Asian culture has become obsessed
1491
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,896
with East LA and lowriding.
1492
01:11:56,979 --> 01:12:00,358
There's a big lowrider scene
that's gone around the world.
1493
01:12:01,859 --> 01:12:06,531
Because of what Cartoon
and Estevan did with Chicano culture
1494
01:12:06,614 --> 01:12:11,202
and made it so pervasive
and popular in Japanese subculture,
1495
01:12:11,285 --> 01:12:15,206
it made it even extra cool
back here in the States.
1496
01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:19,126
And I think a lot of it comes
from how pioneering these two gentlemen
1497
01:12:19,210 --> 01:12:20,670
have been to the culture.
1498
01:12:21,212 --> 01:12:26,259
We listen to oldies,
we listen to Motown-style, classic soul.
1499
01:12:32,431 --> 01:12:36,352
Due to the weather on the West Coast,
we wear T-shirts all year long.
1500
01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:38,479
We invented the white tee,
1501
01:12:38,563 --> 01:12:39,897
khakis and Dickies,
1502
01:12:39,981 --> 01:12:41,107
that whole look.
1503
01:12:42,066 --> 01:12:44,360
The West Coast grew up
wearing Cortez shoes.
1504
01:12:45,069 --> 01:12:47,238
This is the staple for the West Coast.
1505
01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:49,991
In the '80s, though,
it was like a gang-banging shoe.
1506
01:12:50,074 --> 01:12:52,702
Like, you wearing that shoe,
people asked you, "Where are you from?"
1507
01:12:54,787 --> 01:12:57,582
I had meditated why it was relevant,
1508
01:12:57,665 --> 01:12:59,458
and why it had to be done.
1509
01:12:59,542 --> 01:13:01,377
My own Nike, period.
1510
01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:03,462
And once I got them in,
1511
01:13:03,546 --> 01:13:04,922
it was time to drop,
1512
01:13:05,006 --> 01:13:06,257
"I have to do a Cortez,"
1513
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:08,384
paying homage to that era,
1514
01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:10,344
to the NWA era.
1515
01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:12,263
When that happened,
1516
01:13:12,346 --> 01:13:15,224
I was like, "Man, this is fucking amazing.
1517
01:13:15,308 --> 01:13:18,561
I'm gonna design the shoe
I grew up wearing."
1518
01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:21,856
It'd be like McDonald's calling you,
and be like,
1519
01:13:21,939 --> 01:13:24,191
"You're gonna do
your own signature Big Mac.
1520
01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:25,109
Get ready."
1521
01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:27,153
Nike is doing a Mister Cartoon shoe?
1522
01:13:27,236 --> 01:13:28,654
They're giving you a shoe?
1523
01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:30,114
And letting you design it?
1524
01:13:30,197 --> 01:13:31,282
It's-- It's crazy.
1525
01:13:31,365 --> 01:13:34,076
There's not a lot of artists out here
to have their own Nike shoe.
1526
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,330
I walk into a business meeting
with confidence.
1527
01:13:37,413 --> 01:13:40,499
I walk in like, "I'm-- The boss is here."
1528
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,336
And you convince the client
1529
01:13:43,836 --> 01:13:45,171
that you know what's poppin'.
1530
01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:47,590
This is inspiring to me.
1531
01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:51,135
I can apply that same philosophy
to what I'm doing.
1532
01:13:51,218 --> 01:13:52,637
My homie did it, I can do it.
1533
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:53,846
Oh, wow.
1534
01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:57,642
Whoa, Mister Cartoon is completely
crossing over to a different level,
1535
01:13:57,725 --> 01:13:58,559
you know?
1536
01:13:58,643 --> 01:14:01,520
I did the LA edition,
which was putting the "LA"
1537
01:14:01,604 --> 01:14:03,773
and having the Nike check go through it.
1538
01:14:04,023 --> 01:14:06,609
The next one I did was the Aztec.
1539
01:14:06,692 --> 01:14:10,112
This was crazy
because here I'm doing an Aztec
1540
01:14:10,196 --> 01:14:11,238
on a Cortez.
1541
01:14:11,322 --> 01:14:16,243
So you have the Spaniards
coming to New Spain, which was Mexico,
1542
01:14:16,327 --> 01:14:17,995
to bring disease,
1543
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:21,624
great war between the Spaniards
and the Aztecs
1544
01:14:21,707 --> 01:14:24,585
to create Mexican people.
1545
01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:27,797
So, I had that on a shoe,
which is a little heavy,
1546
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,799
you know what I'm saying?
For a shoe design.
1547
01:14:30,174 --> 01:14:34,095
And then on the Aztec warrior,
I put a brush mustache,
1548
01:14:34,178 --> 01:14:37,181
which is representative of the homies now.
1549
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:39,892
When it finally went through,
1550
01:14:40,142 --> 01:14:41,602
I was blown away.
1551
01:14:41,686 --> 01:14:45,398
I'm surprised every time
one of these huge deals goes through.
1552
01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:47,233
So, to balance that,
1553
01:14:47,316 --> 01:14:49,610
it was important that I did outreach.
1554
01:14:50,236 --> 01:14:53,489
Talking to youngsters, explaining to them,
1555
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:56,033
"Look, I went to LA Unified School,
1556
01:14:56,117 --> 01:14:57,493
and I designed my own shoe.
1557
01:14:57,576 --> 01:14:59,203
What would your shoe look like?"
1558
01:14:59,286 --> 01:15:01,872
And I would ask these kids,
and they'd get all shy.
1559
01:15:01,956 --> 01:15:04,750
It's beautiful to see
that Cartoon can set an example
1560
01:15:04,834 --> 01:15:05,918
for these young kids,
1561
01:15:06,127 --> 01:15:08,212
giving kids hope in art.
1562
01:15:08,295 --> 01:15:11,632
My goal was to motivate them
and get them to think,
1563
01:15:11,716 --> 01:15:15,136
"Man, if this knucklehead can do it,
man, I can design my own shoe."
1564
01:15:20,975 --> 01:15:22,059
What?
1565
01:15:22,143 --> 01:15:24,562
Motherfucking premiere of Machete.
1566
01:15:24,645 --> 01:15:27,231
Yeah, that was sweet, with the lowriders.
1567
01:15:27,732 --> 01:15:30,109
Seeing these big Hollywood events.
1568
01:15:30,192 --> 01:15:32,236
In the back on my mind, I was like,
1569
01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,280
"We can get a team together and do it."
1570
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:35,322
We had the budgets.
1571
01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:37,241
And we were able to have some power
1572
01:15:37,825 --> 01:15:40,578
to do some of those events,
and it came out dope.
1573
01:15:40,661 --> 01:15:41,954
And it was beautiful, man.
1574
01:15:42,038 --> 01:15:45,124
People in the street,
happy that somebody's representing.
1575
01:15:45,207 --> 01:15:47,293
This is a historical moment right here.
1576
01:15:48,836 --> 01:15:50,546
We're taking our culture
1577
01:15:50,629 --> 01:15:51,839
and trying to lift it up.
1578
01:15:51,922 --> 01:15:55,092
It would be hard
to be downtown that day
1579
01:15:55,176 --> 01:15:56,594
and not feel our presence.
1580
01:15:56,677 --> 01:15:58,512
We here.
1581
01:15:58,721 --> 01:16:01,057
Damn, man,
we're bringing Chicano art
1582
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:03,059
into places that it's never been before.
1583
01:16:04,435 --> 01:16:07,730
Shout-out to S.A. Studios.
Grand Theft Auto, good looking.
1584
01:16:07,813 --> 01:16:12,401
GTA is the iconic video game that ended up
becoming because of the Estev and Toon.
1585
01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:14,278
I played Cesar Vialpando.
1586
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:17,823
We did
all the tattoos, graffiti,
1587
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,366
murals,
1588
01:16:19,450 --> 01:16:20,493
liquor store,
1589
01:16:20,576 --> 01:16:23,370
and the Virgen de Guadalupe
would be on the side.
1590
01:16:23,454 --> 01:16:25,122
Estevan would take them around
1591
01:16:25,206 --> 01:16:26,499
to all the sick shit
1592
01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:28,375
and fucking recreate that.
1593
01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,337
You've been on a trajectory
1594
01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:33,339
from the bottom-bottom,
1595
01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:35,216
and I guess prison, possibly.
1596
01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:38,094
You got out of that, survived that,
1597
01:16:38,177 --> 01:16:42,515
and you're on this uphill trajectory
of perfecting this art form.
1598
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:45,851
It was a great time.
Record businesses were still going.
1599
01:16:45,935 --> 01:16:47,812
And magazines were popping
1600
01:16:47,895 --> 01:16:52,650
and commercials were getting
anywhere from 100,000 into the millions.
1601
01:16:52,733 --> 01:16:54,443
Then the digital age came.
1602
01:16:54,527 --> 01:16:56,695
It's over, and the Internet has allowed
1603
01:16:56,779 --> 01:16:59,031
global communication
with a lot of people...
1604
01:16:59,115 --> 01:17:01,575
Twenty million people
get their music this way.
1605
01:17:01,659 --> 01:17:04,161
-They worst offender is Napster.
-Metallica filed a...
1606
01:17:04,245 --> 01:17:08,124
At that point, S.A. Studios,
it was kind of like a barber shop.
1607
01:17:08,207 --> 01:17:11,043
People came by afterward and bullshitted.
1608
01:17:11,127 --> 01:17:16,465
That's what S.A. Studios felt like.
A bunch of big-ass kids having fun.
1609
01:17:16,549 --> 01:17:17,758
"What's up, homie?
1610
01:17:17,842 --> 01:17:20,219
What you doing, man?
What you've been up to?"
1611
01:17:20,302 --> 01:17:22,346
It'd be like showing up
at a doctor's office.
1612
01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:23,931
You're like, "What's up, fool?
1613
01:17:24,014 --> 01:17:26,642
Yay, man. Wow, you're doing
some surgery. What's up?"
1614
01:17:26,725 --> 01:17:28,561
Working on the ice-cream truck.
1615
01:17:28,644 --> 01:17:30,479
I'm gonna stay here
until five, six in the morning.
1616
01:17:30,563 --> 01:17:31,981
I'll probably just go crash upstairs.
1617
01:17:32,064 --> 01:17:34,358
A little bit overwhelming for me.
1618
01:17:34,441 --> 01:17:37,403
I don't need a lot of people around
to do what I do.
1619
01:17:37,862 --> 01:17:39,029
They're changing.
1620
01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:42,074
Life's about change.
1621
01:17:43,367 --> 01:17:44,910
After a rare week of gains--
1622
01:17:44,994 --> 01:17:46,996
Worst one-day losses since 911.
1623
01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:48,539
The stock market fell hard--
1624
01:17:48,622 --> 01:17:49,915
533,000--
1625
01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:51,917
Two point six million people--
1626
01:17:52,001 --> 01:17:54,712
In 2008 there was the depression.
1627
01:17:54,795 --> 01:17:57,298
The country just fell apart.
1628
01:17:57,381 --> 01:17:59,842
Spinning the economy
in a vicious cycle,
1629
01:17:59,925 --> 01:18:01,218
people losing their jobs,
1630
01:18:01,302 --> 01:18:03,637
then falling behind on their mortgages.
1631
01:18:03,721 --> 01:18:06,557
Magazines shut down,
record labels shut down.
1632
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,684
President Obama facing increasing pressure
1633
01:18:08,767 --> 01:18:10,102
for a new stimulus package.
1634
01:18:10,186 --> 01:18:11,770
All the budgets went away.
1635
01:18:11,854 --> 01:18:14,231
Eleven point three trillion dollars.
1636
01:18:14,315 --> 01:18:16,150
...to stabilize the housing market,
1637
01:18:16,233 --> 01:18:18,861
and help responsible home-owners
stay in their homes.
1638
01:18:18,986 --> 01:18:23,282
That cut at least 75% of my work
that was coming in.
1639
01:18:23,866 --> 01:18:26,202
S.A. Studios was a certain time.
1640
01:18:26,285 --> 01:18:29,205
Everything evolves,
and everything is a moment in time.
1641
01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:34,251
That whole place of downtown LA
got over-gentrified in my opinion.
1642
01:18:34,627 --> 01:18:36,378
It became uncool.
1643
01:18:36,462 --> 01:18:38,464
It became very corporate.
1644
01:18:38,881 --> 01:18:41,425
If everything always
stays the same, how special is it?
1645
01:18:41,508 --> 01:18:42,468
It's about moments.
1646
01:18:42,551 --> 01:18:45,638
Five years, ten years.
However long that moment was.
1647
01:18:46,430 --> 01:18:48,307
The vibe. Something happened.
1648
01:18:48,807 --> 01:18:52,436
You have one guy
who's in the profession of tattoos,
1649
01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:54,772
which has gone from, like, this fringe,
1650
01:18:54,855 --> 01:18:58,108
and now I don't know one fucking person
who doesn't have a tattoo.
1651
01:18:58,192 --> 01:18:59,902
And then on this side of the spectrum,
1652
01:18:59,985 --> 01:19:02,571
you have photography, which was
like this, and now it's, like, nothing.
1653
01:19:02,696 --> 01:19:04,990
Both things are symbiotic
and feeding off each other.
1654
01:19:05,074 --> 01:19:08,160
But one of those things
brings in a ton of cash,
1655
01:19:08,244 --> 01:19:10,579
and the other one,
the cash is disappearing.
1656
01:19:10,663 --> 01:19:13,165
The tension that must bring
between brothers...
1657
01:19:13,249 --> 01:19:14,166
Eventually...
1658
01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:15,668
it was gone.
1659
01:19:20,339 --> 01:19:22,132
The last time I'll ever be here.
1660
01:19:23,008 --> 01:19:24,468
We were here for 13 years.
1661
01:19:24,551 --> 01:19:28,973
We used to call our little thing here
"Skid Row's finest"
1662
01:19:29,056 --> 01:19:32,059
because we were surrounded
by the people of Skid Row.
1663
01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:34,436
And that's it. It's a wrap.
1664
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:35,771
S.A. Studios.
1665
01:19:35,896 --> 01:19:37,356
We're out of downtown.
1666
01:19:38,148 --> 01:19:39,024
Gone.
1667
01:19:40,276 --> 01:19:43,237
That was probably one
of the most challenging times in my life.
1668
01:19:43,862 --> 01:19:44,947
And...
1669
01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:48,742
I made it, 'cause I'm a fighter.
1670
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:51,161
That was it.
1671
01:19:52,037 --> 01:19:52,997
You got it?
1672
01:20:35,622 --> 01:20:37,958
♪ Microphone checkerSwinging sword lecture ♪
1673
01:20:38,042 --> 01:20:40,210
♪ Closing down the sectorSupreme neck protector ♪
1674
01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:42,588
♪ Better warn 'em kidMr. Method boiling pot ♪
1675
01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:44,506
♪ About to blow his lidFrom the pressure ♪
1676
01:20:44,590 --> 01:20:46,091
♪ Too hot for TV for sheezy ♪
1677
01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:47,885
♪ Too many wanna be hard be easy ♪
1678
01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:50,095
♪ It's all in togetherGoing all out together ♪
1679
01:20:50,179 --> 01:20:51,638
♪ It don't take much to please me ♪
1680
01:20:51,722 --> 01:20:53,474
-Congratulations.
-Thank you.
1681
01:20:53,557 --> 01:20:56,435
♪ We don't condone bitingSee them selling crossbones ♪
1682
01:20:56,518 --> 01:20:58,854
♪ Protecting what am writingDon't clash with the Titan ♪
1683
01:20:58,937 --> 01:21:00,147
♪ Who blast with a license... ♪
1684
01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:03,525
To me,
LA's the blood pumping through my veins.
1685
01:21:03,609 --> 01:21:04,777
I love everything about it.
1686
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:06,028
♪ Put your lights out ♪
1687
01:21:06,111 --> 01:21:08,530
♪ Get the shit to the crackingGot you feelin' with your... out ♪
1688
01:21:08,614 --> 01:21:11,241
I mean, look at it.
How fucking cool is that shit?
1689
01:21:11,325 --> 01:21:14,536
♪ Where I used to battle crewsBack when Antoinette had that attitude ♪
1690
01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:16,663
♪ Cover me, I'm going inWalls closing in ♪
1691
01:21:16,747 --> 01:21:18,040
♪ Got us busting off these... ♪
1692
01:21:18,123 --> 01:21:19,750
♪ My... got issues again ♪
1693
01:21:19,833 --> 01:21:21,627
♪ Same song, armed with the mega bomb ♪
1694
01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:23,379
♪ Blow you out the frameAnd then I'm gone ♪
1695
01:21:24,922 --> 01:21:27,633
♪ Look up in the skyIt's a bird, it's a plane ♪
1696
01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,968
♪ It's the funk Doctor SpockGet on a train ♪
1697
01:21:30,052 --> 01:21:31,095
♪ How high? ♪
1698
01:21:31,178 --> 01:21:33,389
♪ So high that I can kiss the sky ♪
1699
01:21:33,472 --> 01:21:35,808
♪ So sick than you can suck my... ♪
1700
01:21:40,646 --> 01:21:43,315
♪ I was gone too, but we roamCellular phones ♪
1701
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:44,858
♪ Doc-Meth back in the flesh... ♪
1702
01:21:45,234 --> 01:21:47,861
This is where I come
and get all my film done right here.
1703
01:21:48,445 --> 01:21:50,906
♪ Suckers break like Turbo and Ozone... ♪
1704
01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:52,408
Oh, wow.
1705
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:54,576
Wow, I got some good ones.
1706
01:21:56,286 --> 01:21:58,122
♪ Three nines in the glove with Masu... ♪
1707
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:07,756
So, after 13 years, we've now relocated,
1708
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,259
and I'm gonna show you
the new S.A. Studios.
1709
01:22:10,801 --> 01:22:13,846
Well, my part of it.
Cartoon has a different part.
1710
01:22:15,347 --> 01:22:17,599
So... here we are.
1711
01:22:18,976 --> 01:22:20,477
S.A. Studios.
1712
01:22:25,315 --> 01:22:27,067
You can barely fit in here.
1713
01:22:28,026 --> 01:22:29,987
These are the new S.A. Studios.
1714
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,202
These are all bills
that haven't been paid.
1715
01:22:37,703 --> 01:22:39,079
You know, just so everybody knows
1716
01:22:39,163 --> 01:22:42,374
what it's like to be
a world-famous photographer.
1717
01:22:57,181 --> 01:22:59,141
Where am I today?
I'm in a good place.
1718
01:22:59,725 --> 01:23:00,893
I'm an optimist.
1719
01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:03,854
I'm always gonna look
at what's the solution,
1720
01:23:04,188 --> 01:23:06,190
what do I got to be grateful for,
1721
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:07,941
how can I make this pop.
1722
01:23:09,610 --> 01:23:12,779
I haven't stopped one day
since S.A. Studios.
1723
01:23:13,113 --> 01:23:15,032
I have a private studio right here.
1724
01:23:15,115 --> 01:23:17,576
I own this property. Can't kick me out.
1725
01:23:18,118 --> 01:23:19,870
And it's all dialed into my needs,
1726
01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:21,663
I airbrush the cars in here.
1727
01:23:21,997 --> 01:23:24,666
I've been here for five years now and...
1728
01:23:25,042 --> 01:23:25,918
I love it.
1729
01:23:31,798 --> 01:23:34,009
Attention! Attention!
1730
01:23:35,302 --> 01:23:37,346
There's our lovely Sixth Street Bridge.
1731
01:23:38,055 --> 01:23:39,306
No more.
1732
01:23:39,598 --> 01:23:41,725
So crazy to see all this shit.
1733
01:23:41,808 --> 01:23:44,102
Fucking changing so fast.
1734
01:23:45,437 --> 01:23:47,731
This is a mural by my friend Risky.
1735
01:23:47,814 --> 01:23:49,233
Everybody knows Risk.
1736
01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:51,777
This was a parking lot before.
1737
01:23:54,071 --> 01:23:55,739
Some metal rinky-dink buildings,
1738
01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:57,115
and now it's like...
1739
01:23:57,991 --> 01:24:00,786
the biggest fucking most...
1740
01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:04,831
apartments, fuck it,
whatever you could get in there.
1741
01:24:05,499 --> 01:24:09,628
I don't feel like a victim.
I feel like I'm on top of everything.
1742
01:24:09,711 --> 01:24:11,338
I'm on top of social media,
1743
01:24:11,421 --> 01:24:14,299
I know how to use Photoshop,
I know how to use a computer.
1744
01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:15,926
I taught myself all that.
1745
01:24:16,343 --> 01:24:19,846
The guys that didn't do that,
they probably feel overwhelmed.
1746
01:24:24,226 --> 01:24:27,229
And then I was trying to keep up
with the Joneses, and, you know,
1747
01:24:27,312 --> 01:24:28,272
trying to post--
1748
01:24:28,355 --> 01:24:29,523
I tried all that shit.
1749
01:24:29,606 --> 01:24:31,316
I tried to post hot girls,
1750
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,402
big celebrities, gangster stuff.
1751
01:24:33,485 --> 01:24:34,861
I tried to post everything
1752
01:24:34,945 --> 01:24:37,531
at certain times a day
on certain days and I'm like,
1753
01:24:37,614 --> 01:24:39,825
"How the fuck does this guy
have a million followers
1754
01:24:39,908 --> 01:24:43,078
and I got 115,000 or whatever?" You know?
1755
01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:46,123
Every time I'd think
I was doing some big shit, good shit,
1756
01:24:46,206 --> 01:24:48,667
and I go, "Oh,
I'm gonna show Instagram right now.
1757
01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:50,002
Fuck everybody."
1758
01:24:50,377 --> 01:24:52,796
You know. "All my haters
are gonna come out on this one."
1759
01:24:52,879 --> 01:24:55,716
I would post something and it'd be like,
"wah, wah, wah."
1760
01:24:55,799 --> 01:24:56,967
And I was like, "Man."
1761
01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:59,803
I got more likes just from taking
a picture of my dog
1762
01:24:59,886 --> 01:25:01,847
with my iPhone or something, you know.
1763
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:04,850
All the algorithms and the analytics
and all that, and I was like,
1764
01:25:04,933 --> 01:25:08,186
"Man, this shit is,
like, so time-consuming
1765
01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:09,479
and overwhelming."
1766
01:25:09,563 --> 01:25:12,274
It's tiring to try
and keep up with the Joneses, so...
1767
01:25:12,357 --> 01:25:15,485
Sometimes I just say,
"Fuck it, who am I doing all this shit--?"
1768
01:25:15,569 --> 01:25:17,779
And I go and, you know, do work
1769
01:25:17,863 --> 01:25:19,656
that I need to be doing, to...
1770
01:25:20,699 --> 01:25:22,618
To keep the-- keep the...
1771
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,286
the checks coming in,
1772
01:25:24,369 --> 01:25:26,455
to keep up with the bills
that are coming in.
1773
01:25:26,538 --> 01:25:29,291
♪ Money's growingLike grass with the mass appeal ♪
1774
01:25:29,374 --> 01:25:31,793
♪ Money, money, money... ♪
1775
01:25:31,877 --> 01:25:34,421
People on the other side
of the world looking at our shit,
1776
01:25:34,504 --> 01:25:37,424
we don't realize a lot of times
'cause it's in front of us.
1777
01:25:38,925 --> 01:25:39,843
We're from Berlin.
1778
01:25:39,926 --> 01:25:41,553
We're driving lowriders.
1779
01:25:41,637 --> 01:25:43,805
We wear that clothing stuff and...
1780
01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:45,015
listen to the music.
1781
01:25:45,098 --> 01:25:46,058
Latino life.
1782
01:25:47,351 --> 01:25:50,937
I think that this art form
embraces everybody.
1783
01:25:51,021 --> 01:25:53,398
People are affected,
and we don't know about it.
1784
01:25:53,482 --> 01:25:55,692
Inside I always looked like a cholo.
1785
01:25:56,526 --> 01:26:00,113
I'm a trans man and I'm tattooed.
I love tattoos.
1786
01:26:00,197 --> 01:26:01,782
- Yeah? Good?
- Danke schön.
1787
01:26:03,617 --> 01:26:05,952
♪ And with my unique skills, nahYou can't compare... ♪
1788
01:26:06,036 --> 01:26:07,871
All good, bro bro!
1789
01:26:07,954 --> 01:26:11,041
Oh, I've been arrested
over 20 times for graffiti.
1790
01:26:11,124 --> 01:26:13,794
And I've been chased with things
and attacked by dogs
1791
01:26:13,877 --> 01:26:14,920
and my leg--
1792
01:26:15,003 --> 01:26:17,005
ripped my leg open over jumping fences.
1793
01:26:17,089 --> 01:26:18,298
But I love it.
1794
01:26:18,382 --> 01:26:20,217
Watching Estevan's photos
1795
01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:21,635
and Cartoon's tattoos
1796
01:26:21,718 --> 01:26:24,721
put me into an understanding
about a lot of things out here.
1797
01:26:24,805 --> 01:26:26,848
- Oh!
- That was perfect timing.
1798
01:26:26,932 --> 01:26:30,143
Between Estevan and Cartoon,
they have really brought
1799
01:26:30,227 --> 01:26:32,813
the culture of downtown Los Angeles
1800
01:26:32,896 --> 01:26:36,608
to a place of respect and high art.
1801
01:26:41,446 --> 01:26:44,700
For this show, we wanted
to be true to the spirit of the artform.
1802
01:26:44,783 --> 01:26:46,535
Vandalism, ambition,
1803
01:26:46,785 --> 01:26:49,413
rebellion, being out in the streets.
1804
01:26:50,038 --> 01:26:51,707
Beyond The Streets show
that's out now,
1805
01:26:51,790 --> 01:26:54,042
you have Banksy, Basquiat,
1806
01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:56,086
Murakami, Shepard Fairey.
1807
01:26:56,169 --> 01:26:58,714
And then you also have Cartoon's church,
1808
01:26:58,797 --> 01:27:02,426
and you have
the iconic Estevan LA hand sign.
1809
01:27:03,260 --> 01:27:08,014
People might dismiss graffiti
as only being vandalism.
1810
01:27:08,098 --> 01:27:10,267
And I'm not saying
that it isn't vandalism.
1811
01:27:10,350 --> 01:27:11,518
It is vandalism.
1812
01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:13,520
This is vandal art.
1813
01:27:13,603 --> 01:27:15,397
Carving your name in a toilet
1814
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,482
and shit. That's how people look at it.
1815
01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:19,901
We're not even supposed
to be there in the first place
1816
01:27:19,985 --> 01:27:21,653
or have our cars in there,
1817
01:27:21,737 --> 01:27:22,779
photography.
1818
01:27:22,863 --> 01:27:25,157
♪ The building, Trinity AveTen years... ♪
1819
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:26,575
To come from nothing...
1820
01:27:26,658 --> 01:27:28,994
They ain't got no degrees.
They learned this from the streets.
1821
01:27:29,077 --> 01:27:30,328
♪ Why you think... ♪
1822
01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:32,956
Are they responsible
for bringing that style
1823
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:36,376
and that culture to the forefront
of the movement? Definitely.
1824
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,879
♪ I did it all, I put the pieces... ♪
1825
01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:42,299
Hip-hop culture owes so much
to Toons and Estevan.
1826
01:27:42,382 --> 01:27:44,718
Them being so prominent in the culture
1827
01:27:44,801 --> 01:27:46,970
helped shape that wave
1828
01:27:47,053 --> 01:27:51,433
that even the generation after us,
coming up...
1829
01:27:51,975 --> 01:27:54,394
Where do Cartoon and Estevan lie
1830
01:27:54,478 --> 01:27:56,772
in the greater scheme of art itself?
1831
01:27:56,855 --> 01:27:57,856
I think pretty high.
1832
01:27:58,815 --> 01:28:01,109
They're out there.
They're approachable.
1833
01:28:01,193 --> 01:28:03,987
They're shooting for magazines.
They're friends with people on Skid Row.
1834
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:05,697
You've done a lot for me, brother.
1835
01:28:05,781 --> 01:28:07,491
They're friends with graffiti writers.
1836
01:28:07,574 --> 01:28:09,826
I'll show you what I think
about H&M, you know?
1837
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:11,828
They're friends with musicians,
celebrities.
1838
01:28:11,912 --> 01:28:15,373
♪ In the gutter one, ghetto running 'emTroublesome, extra double dumb... ♪
1839
01:28:16,082 --> 01:28:17,292
They're still doing it.
1840
01:28:17,375 --> 01:28:20,212
They're doing it better
than they ever have, and that's pride.
1841
01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:22,422
That's heart. That's Chicano.
1842
01:28:23,173 --> 01:28:25,425
With all the racism, xenophobia
1843
01:28:25,509 --> 01:28:27,594
that's going on right now in the US,
1844
01:28:27,677 --> 01:28:30,722
for Chicano art to just be pushed
as hard as possible,
1845
01:28:30,806 --> 01:28:35,185
whether it's a direct a political message
or just as a style, is a great thing.
1846
01:28:35,268 --> 01:28:37,062
These ICE agents and these raids
1847
01:28:37,145 --> 01:28:38,271
and the racism,
1848
01:28:38,355 --> 01:28:40,732
it's only gonna speak to our cultures.
1849
01:28:40,816 --> 01:28:43,401
The culture has to be
a little louder than the hate.
1850
01:28:43,485 --> 01:28:45,904
♪ Cause they say I rhymeThey say I look like a gremlin... ♪
1851
01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:48,865
We're gonna keep moving forward,
keep creating
1852
01:28:48,949 --> 01:28:51,618
and stay true to this culture.
1853
01:28:51,701 --> 01:28:54,830
Thank you for coming!
Thank you for coming.
1854
01:28:59,292 --> 01:29:00,669
Ah!
1855
01:29:05,382 --> 01:29:06,216
♪ Slam ♪
1856
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,594
♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
1857
01:29:11,930 --> 01:29:13,723
♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
1858
01:29:13,807 --> 01:29:15,350
♪ It's my city ♪
1859
01:29:16,518 --> 01:29:18,228
♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
1860
01:29:21,064 --> 01:29:22,983
♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
1861
01:29:23,066 --> 01:29:25,485
♪ It's my city ♪
1862
01:29:25,569 --> 01:29:27,445
♪ Wake up in the morning and I thank God ♪
1863
01:29:27,529 --> 01:29:30,282
♪ Pray for enemies and hatersThat's the meaning of a gang star ♪
1864
01:29:30,365 --> 01:29:32,450
♪ I'm into everythingHustle I get that money ♪
1865
01:29:32,534 --> 01:29:34,953
♪ I know I'm gonna make itI chase it, I come and run it down ♪
1866
01:29:35,036 --> 01:29:37,330
♪ We out here chilled, it's SundayWe got the pretty women ♪
1867
01:29:37,414 --> 01:29:39,791
♪ Barbecues popping, no stoppin'We're drinking beer with lemon ♪
1868
01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:41,793
♪ Los Angeles, babyWe own the South side ♪
1869
01:29:41,877 --> 01:29:44,504
♪ Cruising down PacificThe sickest, that's how the South ride ♪
1870
01:29:44,588 --> 01:29:46,339
♪ Lowriders and OG's with tattoos ♪
1871
01:29:46,423 --> 01:29:48,925
♪ Bouncing down the boulevardWatching as they pass you ♪
1872
01:29:49,009 --> 01:29:51,094
♪ Hella smoke from this Charlie BrownIt's in the sky ♪
1873
01:29:51,177 --> 01:29:53,597
♪ Tacos de carnitas with salsita
Boy, I'm feeling fly ♪
1874
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,724
♪ Mexicano by natureI'm living out a zone ♪
1875
01:29:55,807 --> 01:29:58,184
♪ I just think with that aloneReally that I'm not alone ♪
1876
01:29:58,268 --> 01:30:00,645
♪ My city, my dreams, my lifestyle ♪
1877
01:30:00,729 --> 01:30:03,064
♪ I love LA and this is my style ♪
1878
01:30:03,148 --> 01:30:07,152
♪ I love cruisin' through my city ♪
1879
01:30:07,861 --> 01:30:11,323
♪ I love LA ♪
1880
01:30:12,365 --> 01:30:16,995
♪ We'll be chillin'On a South Side Sunday ♪
1881
01:30:17,078 --> 01:30:20,373
♪ It's my favorite kind of day ♪
1882
01:30:21,082 --> 01:30:25,503
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ Out here chillin' with the homies ♪
1883
01:30:25,587 --> 01:30:30,258
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ Barbecues and family ♪
1884
01:30:30,342 --> 01:30:34,304
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ Ain't no place I'd rather be ♪
1885
01:30:34,387 --> 01:30:37,682
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ I love LA ♪
1886
01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:39,434
♪ Dude, man, I love LA ♪
1887
01:30:39,517 --> 01:30:41,811
♪ Another sunny day in CaliforniaThis is Los Angeles ♪
1888
01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:44,189
♪ Beast BaldacciNot to worry, let me handle this ♪
1889
01:30:44,272 --> 01:30:46,441
♪ Palm treesIt's the home of a real life ♪
1890
01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,944
♪ Battlefield, a war zoneBut this is where I feel right ♪
1891
01:30:49,027 --> 01:30:50,987
♪ No hatin', we just livin'Like we're supposed to ♪
1892
01:30:51,071 --> 01:30:53,573
♪ Stand for who you are, yepIt's what we've been exposed to ♪
1893
01:30:53,657 --> 01:30:55,784
♪ I love my city, my peopleI love my family ♪
1894
01:30:55,867 --> 01:30:58,036
♪ I love my haters, my rivalsAnd people mad at me ♪
1895
01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:00,497
♪ I'm on the grindI can't stop, I'm all lit ♪
1896
01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,791
♪ And every second I thank PopsThis all him ♪
1897
01:31:02,874 --> 01:31:05,251
♪ Mini-bikes in the street goingThe feedback ♪
1898
01:31:05,335 --> 01:31:07,462
♪ Prostitutes and the weed sacksBelieve that ♪
1899
01:31:07,545 --> 01:31:09,714
♪ Broken lights so it's dark outThe kids playin' ♪
1900
01:31:09,798 --> 01:31:12,050
♪ Yellow tape on the next blockI'm just sayin' ♪
1901
01:31:12,133 --> 01:31:14,427
♪ It ain't never gonna changeBoy, I love my city ♪
1902
01:31:14,511 --> 01:31:16,513
♪ LA to my day come and rep it with me ♪
1903
01:31:16,596 --> 01:31:19,849
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ I love cruisin' through my city ♪
1904
01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:21,184
♪ Cruisin' through my city, boy ♪
1905
01:31:21,267 --> 01:31:24,396
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ I love LA ♪
1906
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,523
-♪ Man, how I love LA ♪
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
1907
01:31:26,606 --> 01:31:29,985
♪ We'll be chillin'On a South Side Sunday ♪
1908
01:31:30,068 --> 01:31:33,905
-♪ Just chillin' on a South Side Sunday ♪
-♪ It's my favorite kind of day ♪
1909
01:31:33,989 --> 01:31:35,490
-♪ Yeah ♪
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
1910
01:31:35,573 --> 01:31:39,452
♪ Out here chillin' with the homies ♪
1911
01:31:39,536 --> 01:31:43,999
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ Barbecues and family ♪
1912
01:31:44,082 --> 01:31:47,168
-♪ Rainbow, rainbow ♪
-♪ Ain't no place I'd rather be ♪
1913
01:31:47,252 --> 01:31:51,756
-♪ Ain't no place I'd rather be ♪
-♪ I love LA ♪
1914
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,258
♪ Uh-huh, I love LA, yeah ♪
1915
01:31:53,341 --> 01:31:55,593
♪ Family is everythingTattoos represent mine ♪
1916
01:31:55,677 --> 01:31:58,054
♪ Everything ahead of meI hope you try and test mine ♪
1917
01:31:58,138 --> 01:32:00,306
♪ Southern championCalifornia weed smoke ♪
1918
01:32:00,390 --> 01:32:02,726
♪ The real moonrock on the topWhen the beast toke ♪
1919
01:32:02,809 --> 01:32:04,894
♪ Los Angeles, shout-out to my hometown ♪
1920
01:32:04,978 --> 01:32:07,313
♪ Fabuloso Geez, HP, how it goes down ♪
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♪ Chikoe, BlazerThe Speedy's Estevan Oriol ♪
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♪ Free my brothers that's put awayNow let them go ♪
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♪ I love LA ♪
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