Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:03,634 --> 00:00:05,719
[reporter] A Las Vegas hospital reports
2
00:00:05,802 --> 00:00:09,848
rapper Tupac Shakur has passed awayfrom wounds he suffered
3
00:00:09,932 --> 00:00:12,017
during a drive-by shooting last Saturday.
4
00:00:14,645 --> 00:00:16,230
[Biggie] Pac is a strong dude, yo.
5
00:00:16,813 --> 00:00:19,525
So, when they was like he got shot,
I was just more like, "Again?"
6
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,736
You know?
He's always getting shot, or shot at.
7
00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:24,404
He gonna pull through this one again,
8
00:00:24,571 --> 00:00:27,783
make a few records about it
and it's going to be over, you know?
9
00:00:27,991 --> 00:00:30,410
But when he-- when he died,
I was just like, "Whoa!"
10
00:00:31,453 --> 00:00:33,121
You know, kind of took me by...
11
00:00:33,747 --> 00:00:35,374
Even though
we was going through our drama,
12
00:00:35,457 --> 00:00:38,377
I would never wish death on nobody,
there ain't no coming back from that.
13
00:00:39,419 --> 00:00:40,879
But at the same time, you know...
14
00:00:41,922 --> 00:00:43,423
things gotta move on, you know?
15
00:00:49,137 --> 00:00:51,139
[mellow beats]
16
00:00:58,063 --> 00:01:00,566
[narrator]
Tupac's death in September 1996
17
00:01:00,649 --> 00:01:02,484
sent shock waves throughout hip-hop,
18
00:01:02,568 --> 00:01:05,821
serving as a reality checkof the dangers and limits
19
00:01:05,904 --> 00:01:06,822
of bravado and ego,
20
00:01:07,364 --> 00:01:08,407
and as a reminder
21
00:01:08,490 --> 00:01:11,201
of hip-hop's collective powerand responsibility.
22
00:01:12,452 --> 00:01:16,206
In the months following Pac's death,leaders from both coasts came together,
23
00:01:16,331 --> 00:01:18,750
trying to bring peaceto the fractured community.
24
00:01:19,835 --> 00:01:21,587
But there was another side to this story.
25
00:01:22,546 --> 00:01:23,505
Big's story.
26
00:01:23,589 --> 00:01:24,965
♪ It's on you ♪
27
00:01:27,050 --> 00:01:29,553
Because, throughout the beef,Big had a vision for his future.
28
00:01:30,053 --> 00:01:32,055
He wanted to be more than just a rapper.
29
00:01:32,431 --> 00:01:33,849
Big wanted to be a mogul,
30
00:01:34,474 --> 00:01:35,684
and lucky for him,
31
00:01:35,851 --> 00:01:37,936
his manager was a mogul in the making.
32
00:01:40,647 --> 00:01:44,234
[interviewer]
So I want to startjust after the success of Ready to Die.
33
00:01:44,901 --> 00:01:46,653
Big is-- is blowing up.
34
00:01:46,862 --> 00:01:48,739
What were you thinkingabout the future together?
35
00:01:49,197 --> 00:01:52,409
After the success of Ready to Die,
we didn't want to lose it.
36
00:01:52,492 --> 00:01:56,079
We hit it right at that spot
where we had some turmoil
37
00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:58,624
and we had some pressure.
38
00:01:58,790 --> 00:02:01,627
So we don't want to lose the opportunity,
39
00:02:01,710 --> 00:02:04,795
we didn't want to lose the success
that Bad Boy was having.
40
00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,133
You know this is a whole new era
that we were really going into.
41
00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:10,302
♪ Grab your dick if you love hip-hop ♪
42
00:02:11,136 --> 00:02:13,305
♪ Rub your titties if you love Big Poppa ♪
43
00:02:13,722 --> 00:02:17,351
A lot of people don't understandthe relationship me and Big had.
44
00:02:17,768 --> 00:02:21,980
We were beyond record company headand recording artist.
45
00:02:22,064 --> 00:02:23,607
We were really true friends.
46
00:02:23,815 --> 00:02:25,734
We hit the lottery together.
47
00:02:26,068 --> 00:02:28,195
And we lived it like nobody ever lived it.
48
00:02:28,612 --> 00:02:29,821
The B.I.G.
49
00:02:29,905 --> 00:02:31,740
♪ If robbery's a class, bet I pass it ♪
50
00:02:31,823 --> 00:02:34,826
♪ Shit get drasticI'm burying you bastards ♪
51
00:02:34,951 --> 00:02:37,287
But Big had this concept that he wanted
52
00:02:37,371 --> 00:02:41,124
to be in the power position,the executive producer,
53
00:02:41,583 --> 00:02:44,127
be able to move next door to me.
54
00:02:44,211 --> 00:02:47,673
So he had this dream of, you know,
really starting his own label,
55
00:02:47,756 --> 00:02:50,092
and I was just like, "This guy is bold."
56
00:02:50,175 --> 00:02:52,636
You know what I'm saying?He wants to go do his own label.
57
00:02:52,761 --> 00:02:55,430
He's not even trying to do it
with Bad Boy, and I was like,
58
00:02:56,348 --> 00:02:58,058
"I could really, really dig it."
59
00:02:58,141 --> 00:03:02,270
That made no sense for my business,
but it was just like-- it's my man.
60
00:03:02,771 --> 00:03:05,941
♪ Just the way players playAll day, every day ♪
61
00:03:06,024 --> 00:03:07,734
♪ I don't know what else to say ♪
62
00:03:07,818 --> 00:03:08,735
[Lance] One day...
63
00:03:09,111 --> 00:03:12,364
Big asked meto start a record company with him.
64
00:03:12,447 --> 00:03:15,492
We literally started a record company
65
00:03:15,575 --> 00:03:17,285
out of a one-bedroom apartment.
66
00:03:17,369 --> 00:03:19,538
And, you know, I was sitting down one day,
67
00:03:19,621 --> 00:03:21,665
and we kind of just came up with this idea
68
00:03:21,748 --> 00:03:24,543
about creating our own hip-hop family.
69
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,212
They were called The Junior MAFIA.
70
00:03:27,713 --> 00:03:29,798
♪ Now who smoke more bluntsThan a little bit ♪
71
00:03:29,881 --> 00:03:31,049
♪ What are you, an idiot ♪
72
00:03:31,133 --> 00:03:33,885
♪ Listen to the lyrics I spit like M1'S ♪
73
00:03:33,969 --> 00:03:35,595
♪ Got mad guns up in the cabin ♪
74
00:03:35,679 --> 00:03:38,515
[Lil' Cease] Junior Mafia, we wereyoung kids that he just kind of like
75
00:03:38,682 --> 00:03:40,934
kept a wrap of, like,trying to keep us off the streets.
76
00:03:41,017 --> 00:03:42,894
You know, he had plans for us.
77
00:03:42,978 --> 00:03:45,272
"This is how we gonna do your records.
You need to do this."
78
00:03:45,355 --> 00:03:47,399
"Rhyme like this, do this melody."
79
00:03:47,482 --> 00:03:49,860
"I'm gonna write your rap,
your song will be ready tomorrow."
80
00:03:49,943 --> 00:03:51,445
It was that other side of him.
81
00:03:51,528 --> 00:03:52,988
-Taking care of everybody.
-Yes.
82
00:03:53,071 --> 00:03:55,323
He took care of us
and made us a lifeline,
83
00:03:55,407 --> 00:03:58,034
that-- that still lasts to this time,
because of him.
84
00:03:58,118 --> 00:04:00,662
♪ Go on grit your teethGo on bite your nails ♪
85
00:04:00,746 --> 00:04:02,205
♪ To the cuticles like Murray ♪
86
00:04:02,289 --> 00:04:04,833
[Lance] Junior MAFIAwas really about a concept.
87
00:04:04,916 --> 00:04:08,253
Biggie wanted to give the kidsfrom the neighborhood
88
00:04:08,378 --> 00:04:10,880
an opportunity to be successful.
89
00:04:10,964 --> 00:04:14,134
That's why he has so many members
in the group.
90
00:04:14,259 --> 00:04:16,303
It was nine guys.
91
00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:18,972
♪ NiggasGrab your dick if you love hip-hop ♪
92
00:04:19,055 --> 00:04:22,142
♪ Bitches, rub your tittiesIf you love Big Poppa ♪
93
00:04:22,225 --> 00:04:25,228
♪ Gotcha, open off the wordsI say because ♪
94
00:04:25,312 --> 00:04:27,272
♪ This type of shit it happens everyday ♪
95
00:04:27,355 --> 00:04:31,401
[Puff] His whole vibe was that he wantedto put on his friends and his family
96
00:04:31,485 --> 00:04:35,280
and he had some talented,really charismatic characters around him.
97
00:04:35,363 --> 00:04:37,449
But he had this one gem...
98
00:04:37,949 --> 00:04:39,034
and it was Lil' Kim.
99
00:04:39,117 --> 00:04:43,205
♪ I used to pack Macs in CadillacsNow I pimp Gats in the AC's ♪
100
00:04:43,288 --> 00:04:45,749
♪ Watch my money stackNines in the stores ♪
101
00:04:45,832 --> 00:04:47,209
♪ Glocks in the bags ♪
102
00:04:47,292 --> 00:04:48,376
♪ Maxin' mini-markets ♪
103
00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:50,420
♪ Getting money with the ArabsNo question ♪
104
00:04:50,504 --> 00:04:52,547
Do you remember the first rhyme
you kicked for Biggie?
105
00:04:53,256 --> 00:04:55,342
It was on Fulton Street, right?
106
00:04:55,425 --> 00:04:59,095
I was a baby.You know, 16-17, basically.
107
00:04:59,387 --> 00:05:00,680
I was so embarrassed.
108
00:05:00,764 --> 00:05:02,849
But I used to really like...
109
00:05:02,933 --> 00:05:03,892
Buckshot.
110
00:05:04,392 --> 00:05:06,144
-Buckshot.
-I used to rhyme like him.
111
00:05:06,311 --> 00:05:10,440
I would listen to Black Moon
over and over again.
112
00:05:10,690 --> 00:05:13,902
I don't remember it all, but I remember
I said something to the sense of,
113
00:05:14,027 --> 00:05:17,280
I'm so hot, I'm hotter than the sun,
who dat a come or whatever.
114
00:05:17,364 --> 00:05:19,950
-You hit him with the Buckshot flow.
-Hit him with the Buckshot.
115
00:05:20,534 --> 00:05:22,118
Hit him with the Buckshot flow!
116
00:05:22,327 --> 00:05:24,329
And he was like, “Wait a minute, what?
117
00:05:24,412 --> 00:05:28,375
Like, that big-ass voice
coming out of this little ass girl.â€
118
00:05:28,458 --> 00:05:30,335
He was like... [chuckles]
119
00:05:30,418 --> 00:05:32,504
♪ I used to pack Macs in Cadillacs ♪
120
00:05:32,587 --> 00:05:34,464
♪ Now I pimp Gats in the Ac's ♪
121
00:05:34,923 --> 00:05:38,677
I made my first song,which was "Player's Anthem," at 17.
122
00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,347
I was supposed to be the little girlthat was cute and made the guys look good,
123
00:05:42,514 --> 00:05:45,976
but I liked being vulgar
and explicit sometimes,
124
00:05:46,059 --> 00:05:47,561
because it made me feel free.
125
00:05:47,811 --> 00:05:50,146
Yo, I just want to sayI love y’all motherfuckers.
126
00:05:50,313 --> 00:05:52,440
Y’all motherfuckers be representingin Brooklyn.
127
00:05:52,524 --> 00:05:54,317
That's all it means to me, you know?
128
00:05:54,442 --> 00:05:57,362
Sometimes when I would go super nasty,
Big would be like,
129
00:05:57,445 --> 00:05:58,613
"Dang, girl!
130
00:05:59,114 --> 00:06:01,074
I didn't know if I wanted you
to go that far,
131
00:06:01,157 --> 00:06:02,492
but I like it, keep going.â€
132
00:06:02,993 --> 00:06:05,453
Y’all motherfucking girlsbe representing, right?
133
00:06:05,537 --> 00:06:06,371
With the...
134
00:06:06,454 --> 00:06:08,540
♪ Niggas, better grab a seat ♪
135
00:06:08,665 --> 00:06:10,959
♪ Grab on your dickAs this bitch gets deep ♪
136
00:06:11,251 --> 00:06:13,461
♪ Deeper than the pussyOf a bitch six feet ♪
137
00:06:13,545 --> 00:06:16,047
♪ Stiff dicks feel sweetIn this little petite ♪
138
00:06:16,131 --> 00:06:18,842
♪ Young bitch from the streetGuaranteed to stay down ♪
139
00:06:18,925 --> 00:06:20,302
[Angie] The thing about Kim is,
140
00:06:20,385 --> 00:06:24,180
nobody was attacking itthe way she was in stilettos like that.
141
00:06:24,264 --> 00:06:26,266
She just sounded so raw.
142
00:06:26,349 --> 00:06:28,894
And she said all that shitthat you, as a girl,
143
00:06:28,977 --> 00:06:31,688
you're like-- you were kind of like,
you wanted to say that.
144
00:06:31,771 --> 00:06:34,149
♪ You want to be my main squeeze, nigga ♪
145
00:06:34,524 --> 00:06:36,526
♪ You want to lickBetween my knees, nigga ♪
146
00:06:36,610 --> 00:06:38,278
[James] You see Kim,you sit down on the side,
147
00:06:38,361 --> 00:06:40,655
have a conversation with Lil' Kim,and that's Kimberly.
148
00:06:40,739 --> 00:06:44,117
As soon as she grabs that mic
and hits that stage and starts to...
149
00:06:44,284 --> 00:06:46,995
She's like, catching a spiritor something, you know?
150
00:06:47,203 --> 00:06:49,915
And that's something
that nobody had seen at that time.
151
00:06:50,123 --> 00:06:52,959
I love y’all!Brooklyn in the house, right?
152
00:06:54,044 --> 00:06:56,171
What? I can't hear you!
153
00:06:56,421 --> 00:06:57,464
Lil' Kim...
154
00:06:57,714 --> 00:07:00,967
obviously stood out
from Junior MAFIA, um...
155
00:07:01,217 --> 00:07:04,930
but, in a different way,
she stood out in hip-hop because...
156
00:07:05,013 --> 00:07:07,849
Kim's like sexuality was something
157
00:07:07,933 --> 00:07:10,977
that both men and women weren't ready for,
158
00:07:11,061 --> 00:07:13,146
but then wanted more and more and more.
159
00:07:14,481 --> 00:07:15,482
♪ Lil Caeser ♪
160
00:07:15,565 --> 00:07:17,692
And then Hard Core came along.
161
00:07:17,817 --> 00:07:23,698
It was like building the most deadly
fembot, and it was amazing.
162
00:07:23,782 --> 00:07:26,826
♪ Yo shorty, won't you go get a bagOf the lethal ♪
163
00:07:26,910 --> 00:07:29,537
♪ I'll be undressed in the braAll see-through ♪
164
00:07:29,663 --> 00:07:32,791
When Big first played my album
in front of Puffy,
165
00:07:32,999 --> 00:07:34,542
Biggie played "Crush on You".
166
00:07:34,626 --> 00:07:37,128
♪ The only one thing I wanna doIs freak you ♪
167
00:07:37,212 --> 00:07:38,505
And Puffy was like...
168
00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,718
He just stared at Big.
169
00:07:43,802 --> 00:07:46,346
♪ Keep your stone setsI got my own baguettes ♪
170
00:07:46,471 --> 00:07:48,890
♪ And I'll be doing thingsThat you won't regret ♪
171
00:07:48,974 --> 00:07:50,433
By the end of the record, he said,
172
00:07:50,517 --> 00:07:52,852
"Money, what the fuck is this shit?
173
00:07:53,436 --> 00:07:55,021
This shit is cra--
174
00:07:55,105 --> 00:07:59,150
No, this shit is a platinum album.
This shit is fucking crazy.â€
175
00:07:59,234 --> 00:08:00,527
♪ Yes indeed! ♪
176
00:08:00,610 --> 00:08:02,153
She was the female Biggie.
177
00:08:02,237 --> 00:08:04,239
This is how dope she is.
178
00:08:04,572 --> 00:08:07,367
But she's like, way cockier.
179
00:08:07,617 --> 00:08:09,911
When Kim came on the scene,
180
00:08:10,036 --> 00:08:12,580
she took the sexuality away from guys.
181
00:08:12,664 --> 00:08:14,749
She took the misogyny away.
182
00:08:14,874 --> 00:08:16,793
She put an apple in your mouth.
183
00:08:16,876 --> 00:08:18,920
Tired a rope around you
184
00:08:19,004 --> 00:08:21,464
and just started spanking you.
185
00:08:21,548 --> 00:08:24,175
♪ You know I love the way you feel-aSip my tequil-a ♪
186
00:08:24,259 --> 00:08:26,885
♪ Works from the dealersFull-length chinchilla ♪
187
00:08:26,970 --> 00:08:30,097
People talk a lot about her
to the representation,
188
00:08:30,181 --> 00:08:34,477
what she wore, didn't wear,
and the sort of sexual explicitness
189
00:08:34,561 --> 00:08:36,438
of her lyrics.
190
00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:42,027
But she really had a flow
that just would stop you in your tracks.
191
00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,320
She was an incredible MC.
192
00:08:44,404 --> 00:08:45,947
Kim rides that beat,
193
00:08:46,031 --> 00:08:47,657
that Brooklyn vibe
194
00:08:47,741 --> 00:08:50,243
where you can lag behind a little bit,
195
00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:52,954
catch up and run it
and then get back again.
196
00:08:53,538 --> 00:08:56,875
It’s the swag that's undeniable that comes
197
00:08:57,375 --> 00:08:58,418
with Brooklyn.
198
00:08:58,501 --> 00:09:00,545
♪ I'ma throw shade if I can't get paid ♪
199
00:09:00,628 --> 00:09:02,839
♪ Blow you up to your girlLike the army grenade ♪
200
00:09:02,922 --> 00:09:06,092
♪ You can slide on my iceLike the escapade ♪
201
00:09:06,176 --> 00:09:08,303
♪ And itchy-gitchy-yayaWith the marmalade ♪
202
00:09:08,386 --> 00:09:10,597
[Joan] It was an ongoing narrativeat that point,
203
00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:12,390
that women rappers did not sell.
204
00:09:12,766 --> 00:09:14,309
As beloved as Latifah was,
205
00:09:14,392 --> 00:09:16,269
what people would constantly throwin your face
206
00:09:16,352 --> 00:09:18,396
is that she's never been ableto go platinum.
207
00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,192
But when Kim came outand occupied a lane
208
00:09:22,275 --> 00:09:24,611
that was about sexuality,was about violence,
209
00:09:24,694 --> 00:09:26,196
and was, like, able to go platinum,
210
00:09:26,321 --> 00:09:27,989
it changed the game.
211
00:09:28,531 --> 00:09:30,950
Hi, MTV. I’m finally here.
212
00:09:31,034 --> 00:09:33,912
♪ I gotta let you knowThat I got a crush on you ♪
213
00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:36,247
[Biggie] That's Kim, you know?From day one.
214
00:09:36,331 --> 00:09:38,166
She was always standing out.
215
00:09:38,249 --> 00:09:40,085
-I knew she had some skills.
-[TVinterviewer] Right.
216
00:09:40,168 --> 00:09:43,379
And I knew what I was planning on doing
as far as with the Junior MAFIA project
217
00:09:44,005 --> 00:09:46,216
and she just fit,
she just fit the criteria.
218
00:09:46,674 --> 00:09:48,968
[TV interviewer] All right, a new albumcoming to the forefront?
219
00:09:49,052 --> 00:09:51,179
-March 25th.
-[man] March 2-5.
220
00:09:51,262 --> 00:09:52,430
Yeah, it’s gonna be on.
221
00:09:57,352 --> 00:09:59,854
[narrator] Biggie's success with Lil' Kimand Junior MAFIA
222
00:10:00,063 --> 00:10:02,524
proved he had the acumento match his ambition.
223
00:10:03,149 --> 00:10:04,734
And, after years of turmoil,
224
00:10:04,818 --> 00:10:06,694
and with his sophomore album done,
225
00:10:06,820 --> 00:10:08,822
Biggie was readyto put the beef behind him.
226
00:10:09,447 --> 00:10:11,407
And, only six months after Pac's death,
227
00:10:11,491 --> 00:10:13,743
Big would head out to Californiato promo his record,
228
00:10:13,993 --> 00:10:17,163
and try to bring some peaceto the still fractured hip-hop community.
229
00:10:18,957 --> 00:10:20,542
-[Biggie] Sup?-[radio presenter] How you doing?
230
00:10:20,625 --> 00:10:24,546
Y107, the Bay area’s party station.Notorious BIG is in studio.
231
00:10:24,629 --> 00:10:26,798
We want to thank you right off the batfor coming in.
232
00:10:26,923 --> 00:10:29,259
Let’s take a quick break.Let’s come back and talk music.
233
00:10:29,592 --> 00:10:31,761
What his perspective was,
there's all this
234
00:10:31,970 --> 00:10:34,472
"East versus West
and me versus Tupac.
235
00:10:34,556 --> 00:10:37,058
Let me get out there.
Let me start talking to people.
236
00:10:37,142 --> 00:10:38,768
Let me do radio interviews.
237
00:10:38,852 --> 00:10:41,771
Let them understandthat I surely didn't want Tupac dead.
238
00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:43,189
He was a friend of mine.
239
00:10:43,648 --> 00:10:45,984
We gotta work this shit out.â€
240
00:10:46,985 --> 00:10:49,571
But I don't think that he fully understood
241
00:10:49,821 --> 00:10:53,283
or anyone at that time really understood
how much danger he was in being out here.
242
00:10:55,994 --> 00:10:58,288
[police siren]
243
00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:03,001
[Nashiem] And I told Big the night beforethey left,
244
00:11:03,084 --> 00:11:07,005
we was all in studio togetherand I told him, "Be careful out there."
245
00:11:08,464 --> 00:11:10,675
I think it was six months after Pac died.
246
00:11:10,925 --> 00:11:14,012
That’s damn near a day and nightwhen it comes to beef.
247
00:11:14,387 --> 00:11:16,306
That's just enough time to plan.
248
00:11:16,848 --> 00:11:19,559
It’s fresh.I’m from New York City streets.
249
00:11:19,684 --> 00:11:21,311
You all know, I don't give a fuck
250
00:11:21,394 --> 00:11:23,771
if you got beef
around the corner from your crib.
251
00:11:24,397 --> 00:11:27,275
You don't go around the corner
until that beef is handled.
252
00:11:27,483 --> 00:11:28,318
Mhm.
253
00:11:29,235 --> 00:11:31,571
You understand?
This thing is going to California?
254
00:11:31,779 --> 00:11:35,158
[radio interviewer] You collaborateon anything with West Coast producers--
255
00:11:35,283 --> 00:11:37,577
I haven't, but I will. I mean...
256
00:11:38,161 --> 00:11:40,288
[clears throat]
I’m just getting over, you know,
257
00:11:40,371 --> 00:11:43,333
this whole situation with this East Coast,
West Coast thing, and--
258
00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:46,127
They’re going through their things,
we’re going through ours.
259
00:11:46,211 --> 00:11:47,754
I just came over, you know,
260
00:11:48,129 --> 00:11:49,631
trying to basically squash it.
261
00:11:49,714 --> 00:11:53,051
I mean, I, I hate to say squashing it,
because it was never a beef to me.
262
00:11:53,134 --> 00:11:54,219
-Right.
-You know?
263
00:11:54,302 --> 00:11:57,222
I never felt threatened by it,
so I hate to say "squash it."
264
00:11:57,472 --> 00:11:59,599
-I just want to end this--
-Put it behind us.
265
00:11:59,724 --> 00:12:00,850
Let's put it all behind.
266
00:12:00,934 --> 00:12:03,102
[radio interviewer]
People are going to ask about Tupac.
267
00:12:03,186 --> 00:12:06,147
He said, in one of his songs,he knows you sent somebody
268
00:12:06,231 --> 00:12:07,899
to shoot him that first time.
Is that true?
269
00:12:07,982 --> 00:12:10,401
Why? No, it's false. Why would I do that?
270
00:12:10,693 --> 00:12:12,487
It’s been a pleasure.Let me shake your hand.
271
00:12:12,570 --> 00:12:14,447
-All right, man.
-Thanks very much.
272
00:12:14,572 --> 00:12:15,865
Thanks very much. Appreciate it.
273
00:12:15,990 --> 00:12:18,660
We was doing interviews and we wound up
at the Vibe party and it was
274
00:12:19,244 --> 00:12:21,621
one of the best parties I had been to
in my whole life.
275
00:12:22,372 --> 00:12:25,541
It was like a real star-studded event.Nothing but love.
276
00:12:25,792 --> 00:12:29,337
It was the one night we didn't get nobody
throwing up a west side at us,
277
00:12:29,629 --> 00:12:31,422
or giving us a funny face looking, or--
278
00:12:31,506 --> 00:12:34,092
You know,
it was really just a smooth, smooth night.
279
00:12:34,175 --> 00:12:35,468
Nothing really got crazy
280
00:12:35,551 --> 00:12:37,553
until we walked outside
and got in that car.
281
00:12:37,637 --> 00:12:39,472
That's when everything changed.
282
00:12:40,014 --> 00:12:41,808
Went from the best night to...
283
00:12:42,225 --> 00:12:44,227
the worst night of my life, to this day.
284
00:12:47,605 --> 00:12:49,607
[tense, sparse music]
285
00:12:51,317 --> 00:12:54,988
[reporter] Rapper Notorious BIGhad just gotten into the Chevy Suburban
286
00:12:55,071 --> 00:12:58,491
parked at Fairfax and Wilshirewhen someone drove by and opened fire.
287
00:12:59,742 --> 00:13:01,953
I was at one light
and his car is pulled up
288
00:13:02,036 --> 00:13:03,705
to the other light as it changed,
289
00:13:03,788 --> 00:13:07,709
so the red light hits, I'm at this light,
I keep going up Wilshire Boulevard.
290
00:13:07,792 --> 00:13:09,836
They’re at the corner of Wilshire,
about to turn on,
291
00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:12,088
because we were all gonna goto another party.
292
00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,424
And I went to the party.
293
00:13:14,507 --> 00:13:16,718
And as soon as I get there,
my phone starts ringing.
294
00:13:16,884 --> 00:13:19,512
Like, "Yo, your man."
295
00:13:19,595 --> 00:13:21,848
And I was like, “My man what?â€
“Yo, your man got shot.â€
296
00:13:21,931 --> 00:13:24,809
“Who? My man Big.
No, he didn't get shot. You sound stupid."
297
00:13:26,019 --> 00:13:29,105
Call me back, "Yo, it's true.
He's at the hospital."
298
00:13:29,188 --> 00:13:31,399
And I go to the hospital and he's...
299
00:13:38,906 --> 00:13:41,576
The rapper's driverraced to Cedar Sinai Medical Center
300
00:13:41,659 --> 00:13:44,120
where the 24-year old was pronounced dead.
301
00:13:44,412 --> 00:13:48,041
It didn't take long for rumors to spreadthat this was a revenge killing.
302
00:13:48,666 --> 00:13:51,711
[Lil' Kim] The last time I spoke to Bigwas when he first got to LA.
303
00:13:51,878 --> 00:13:52,754
He was like...
304
00:13:53,629 --> 00:13:55,673
I just want to tell you
how proud I am of you.
305
00:13:56,257 --> 00:13:57,842
He's never said those words to me.
306
00:13:57,925 --> 00:14:01,429
He was like, "I'm proud of you.
I'm really proud of you."
307
00:14:02,055 --> 00:14:04,307
And so, when I got the call,
308
00:14:04,390 --> 00:14:05,892
I was like, “No.
309
00:14:06,893 --> 00:14:08,561
No, they got a mistake.
310
00:14:08,895 --> 00:14:10,897
I just spoke to Big, he’s fine."
311
00:14:11,522 --> 00:14:12,357
You know?
312
00:14:12,565 --> 00:14:14,776
I was like, "I'm going to the hood."
313
00:14:16,444 --> 00:14:18,363
And when I got to the hood,
314
00:14:18,446 --> 00:14:20,406
everybody Ms. Wallace, everybody,
315
00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:23,326
they were all getting ready
to go get on a plane and it just...
316
00:14:24,744 --> 00:14:26,329
it was just like...
317
00:14:27,330 --> 00:14:29,207
it sunk in at that point.
318
00:14:35,004 --> 00:14:36,756
[reporter]
Police were out in force, as the hearse
319
00:14:36,839 --> 00:14:39,008
led a procession of mourners in limousines
320
00:14:39,092 --> 00:14:41,928
through the streetsof Brooklyn's Bed-Stuy section
321
00:14:42,011 --> 00:14:45,181
where he grew up, and where his mother,Voletta Wallace, still lives.
322
00:14:46,849 --> 00:14:48,643
[Lance] I just rememberall the people out here.
323
00:14:49,102 --> 00:14:51,104
I mean there was people out here for days,
324
00:14:51,187 --> 00:14:52,939
I mean blocks blocked off, you know?
325
00:14:53,564 --> 00:14:56,776
People hanging out their windows.
People on top of cars.
326
00:14:58,444 --> 00:15:00,696
That only happens for mayors
and presidents and...
327
00:15:01,072 --> 00:15:02,281
you know, people like that.
328
00:15:02,573 --> 00:15:04,951
-[car horns beeping]
-[wailing]
329
00:15:07,328 --> 00:15:09,997
[Faith Evans] I was in that carwith Miss Wallace, and I saw that moment
330
00:15:10,248 --> 00:15:13,334
when she felt like, "Oh my God.
My son was this huge!"
331
00:15:13,418 --> 00:15:16,629
When you saw those people hanging off
the bridge, and out of all the buildings.
332
00:15:17,213 --> 00:15:19,549
You know, it just felt like, "Okay,
333
00:15:19,632 --> 00:15:23,177
let's just kind of rejoicein the great person that he was
334
00:15:23,261 --> 00:15:25,012
and why we all feelthe way we feel about him."
335
00:15:28,516 --> 00:15:30,518
[chanting]
336
00:15:32,228 --> 00:15:34,564
[crowd shouting]
337
00:15:36,732 --> 00:15:39,819
[Lil' Kim] I remember being at the casket,like, just grabbing his arm,
338
00:15:39,902 --> 00:15:41,487
Mary had to hold me up.
339
00:15:42,029 --> 00:15:44,699
and I was young and I was scared
340
00:15:44,782 --> 00:15:46,784
and I was alone and I was angryand I was...
341
00:15:47,201 --> 00:15:49,203
sad, and I was confused and I was...
342
00:15:49,662 --> 00:15:51,956
"What's going to happen
and what's-- oh my God."
343
00:15:55,835 --> 00:15:56,752
[Puff] When you're...
344
00:15:57,044 --> 00:15:58,838
really striving for your dreams,
345
00:15:58,921 --> 00:16:01,924
you go through a lot of obstacles,
a lot of different dark times.
346
00:16:02,467 --> 00:16:05,553
But this was one that I just--
I just wasn't really prepared for that.
347
00:16:05,636 --> 00:16:07,054
I didn't get into this...
348
00:16:07,388 --> 00:16:09,599
to have to see anybody die.
349
00:16:10,183 --> 00:16:11,642
We was on top of the world,
350
00:16:12,018 --> 00:16:14,145
and then nothing-- nothing mattered.
351
00:16:15,771 --> 00:16:18,149
When you have these two unsolved murders
352
00:16:18,441 --> 00:16:19,775
of Biggie and Tupac,
353
00:16:20,067 --> 00:16:22,445
you're wondering,
what did it all really mean?
354
00:16:22,612 --> 00:16:23,738
And why did it happen
355
00:16:23,905 --> 00:16:26,199
and did it need to happen,
because it didn't need to happen.
356
00:16:26,741 --> 00:16:31,704
Ultimately, I think these two artistswere the victims of circumstances
357
00:16:31,787 --> 00:16:33,581
that they ultimately hadnothing to do with.
358
00:16:33,956 --> 00:16:38,085
That's really the tragedy of--
of what happened.
359
00:16:45,635 --> 00:16:48,888
I remember the first day
back in the studio after the funeral.
360
00:16:49,388 --> 00:16:50,681
Puff comes through,
361
00:16:51,432 --> 00:16:54,143
and I mean,
he's done lost like 20 pounds.
362
00:16:55,102 --> 00:16:57,104
And he comes to me, and is like,
363
00:16:57,396 --> 00:16:58,940
“I'm through. I'm through with it.
364
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,150
I can't do it no more."
365
00:17:01,608 --> 00:17:03,486
So, me and Dash looking at him like,
366
00:17:05,445 --> 00:17:06,280
this ain't Puff.
367
00:17:06,906 --> 00:17:09,867
[Puff] I was ready to quit.I wasn't going to put out more records.
368
00:17:10,076 --> 00:17:11,827
Then I was watching TV one day,
369
00:17:11,953 --> 00:17:15,039
you know, one of those times of despair
that nobody is around,
370
00:17:15,498 --> 00:17:16,958
and you're crying on the floor
371
00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,835
and the self-pity is at an all-time high,
372
00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:21,921
and you're asking God why,
373
00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:23,714
and then I just heard...
374
00:17:24,715 --> 00:17:26,717
"Every Breath You Take" by The Police.
375
00:17:27,301 --> 00:17:29,804
[Intro to "Every Breath You Take",
The Police]
376
00:17:31,264 --> 00:17:32,723
I just took it as a sign,
377
00:17:32,807 --> 00:17:35,518
and sometimes you need-you just need that little bit of light
378
00:17:36,018 --> 00:17:38,396
to be able to express yourself,
379
00:17:38,479 --> 00:17:41,107
and I thought that the best thing
I could do was to not give up.
380
00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:43,943
I was down and I was out,but I wasn't finished.
381
00:17:44,694 --> 00:17:48,239
But all I could do was get up
and start to fight.
382
00:17:48,781 --> 00:17:51,033
That's the way Big would have wanted it.
383
00:17:51,117 --> 00:17:52,535
♪ True loveCheck it ♪
384
00:17:52,618 --> 00:17:54,870
♪ Seems like yesterdayWe used to rock the show ♪
385
00:17:55,121 --> 00:17:57,123
♪ I laced the track, you locked the flow ♪
386
00:17:57,331 --> 00:17:59,417
♪ So far from hanging on the blockFor dough ♪
387
00:17:59,542 --> 00:18:01,252
♪ Notorious, they got to know ♪
388
00:18:01,335 --> 00:18:03,546
♪ That life ain't alwaysWhat it seem to be ♪
389
00:18:03,796 --> 00:18:05,756
♪ Words can't expressWhat you mean to me ♪
390
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,925
♪ Even though you're goneWe still a team ♪
391
00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:10,261
♪ Through your familyI'll fulfill your dream ♪
392
00:18:10,469 --> 00:18:13,848
♪ In the future, can't wait to seeIf you open up the gates for me ♪
393
00:18:13,931 --> 00:18:16,517
From that day, I got up,I was in the studio that night.
394
00:18:16,601 --> 00:18:19,395
That song kind of--
really kind of saved my life.
395
00:18:19,937 --> 00:18:22,523
Before that, I was really kind of nervous
about being an artist.
396
00:18:22,607 --> 00:18:24,734
Big was pushing me
as far as being an artist.
397
00:18:24,817 --> 00:18:25,985
I felt like I...
398
00:18:26,402 --> 00:18:28,154
I'm a really good hype, man.
399
00:18:28,738 --> 00:18:32,366
But I remember
recording "Missing You," and
400
00:18:32,658 --> 00:18:35,328
just knowing
that it was going to change hip-hop.
401
00:18:35,411 --> 00:18:37,747
Because hip-hop wasn't really vulnerable.
402
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:41,042
This was likehip-hop artists dancing in the rain,
403
00:18:41,417 --> 00:18:44,754
walking up the green hills with kidsand wearing a suit.
404
00:18:45,087 --> 00:18:47,965
People may have considered itas not gangsta or not...
405
00:18:48,382 --> 00:18:49,717
keeping it real.
406
00:18:50,217 --> 00:18:51,052
And...
407
00:18:51,802 --> 00:18:54,722
I didn't really care about any of that.
I just wanted to express
408
00:18:55,139 --> 00:18:56,474
the pain.
409
00:18:56,557 --> 00:18:58,684
♪ It's kinda hard with you not around ♪
410
00:18:58,851 --> 00:19:00,853
♪ Know you in heaven, smiling down ♪
411
00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:02,938
♪ Watching us while we pray for you ♪
412
00:19:03,189 --> 00:19:05,107
♪ Every day we pray for you ♪
413
00:19:05,399 --> 00:19:07,276
♪ 'Til the day we meet again ♪
414
00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,695
♪ In my heartIs where I'll keep you, friend ♪
415
00:19:09,862 --> 00:19:12,281
That song humanized us.
416
00:19:13,324 --> 00:19:15,826
We can be at our lowest point,and still...
417
00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:17,244
have hope.
418
00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:20,206
♪ I know you're still living your lifeAfter death ♪
419
00:19:22,917 --> 00:19:26,921
- ♪ Every move I make-I miss you ♪
420
00:19:27,004 --> 00:19:31,425
♪ Every single dayEvery time I pray ♪
421
00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:34,053
♪ I'll be missing you ♪
422
00:19:34,178 --> 00:19:35,680
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
423
00:19:35,763 --> 00:19:37,598
[Faith] I was really not in a place...
424
00:19:38,182 --> 00:19:40,059
where I wanted to record anything.
425
00:19:40,184 --> 00:19:42,436
And I was in mourning myself,
426
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,272
I just lost my husband, my son's father,
427
00:19:45,523 --> 00:19:49,110
and all of these other things
that I was now responsible for.
428
00:19:49,944 --> 00:19:51,278
But "I'll be missing you"...
429
00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:52,613
It was very healing.
430
00:19:52,697 --> 00:19:56,701
♪ On that morning ♪
431
00:19:57,034 --> 00:20:01,330
♪ When this life is over ♪
432
00:20:02,206 --> 00:20:08,129
♪ I know I'll see your face ♪
433
00:20:08,379 --> 00:20:11,382
[Puff] "Missing you" was the first recordthat was number one in every country.
434
00:20:11,549 --> 00:20:14,176
So it wasn't all pain,
435
00:20:14,510 --> 00:20:18,514
but it can never feel as great
as it's supposed to feel,
436
00:20:18,931 --> 00:20:20,224
with Biggie being here.
437
00:20:22,727 --> 00:20:23,602
Yeah.
438
00:20:23,853 --> 00:20:28,524
♪ Every time I prayI'll be missing you ♪
439
00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:31,819
[Rashiem] "Missing you"...
440
00:20:32,069 --> 00:20:34,697
that was the breath of fresh air
441
00:20:35,030 --> 00:20:36,824
that was needed in Hip-Hop.
442
00:20:37,158 --> 00:20:42,204
We seen that we could console
our man's death, and continue
443
00:20:42,913 --> 00:20:45,374
consoling each other through our music.
444
00:20:46,709 --> 00:20:48,544
[mellow beats]
445
00:20:55,301 --> 00:20:58,387
[narrator] "I'll be missing you"will go on to sell eight million copies,
446
00:20:58,637 --> 00:21:00,806
and become the first rap singlein history to debut
447
00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:02,892
at number one on the Billboard chart.
448
00:21:03,476 --> 00:21:05,394
But, with their star artist, Biggie, gone,
449
00:21:05,561 --> 00:21:07,563
Bad Boy's dominance wasn't guaranteed.
450
00:21:08,564 --> 00:21:10,566
Fortunately, Puff had a plan in place.
451
00:21:10,941 --> 00:21:12,985
A visionhe had started two years earlier,
452
00:21:13,068 --> 00:21:15,237
when he assembled a crewof up and coming producers
453
00:21:15,321 --> 00:21:17,323
that he named The Hitmen.
454
00:21:23,329 --> 00:21:26,457
Puff, he wanted to put together
a producing crew.
455
00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:29,585
Why not? In-house producing crew.
A Bad Boy thing.
456
00:21:30,085 --> 00:21:33,422
And we weren't seasoned vets,
we weren't... um...
457
00:21:33,923 --> 00:21:35,132
seasoned at all.
458
00:21:35,341 --> 00:21:37,343
I call us a bunch of misfits,
459
00:21:37,426 --> 00:21:41,222
because he could have gotmuch better talent than us as Hitmen.
460
00:21:41,347 --> 00:21:44,058
But I guess Puff is the genius for that.
461
00:21:44,558 --> 00:21:45,559
[laughing]
462
00:21:45,643 --> 00:21:47,520
One day I see Puff, and he says,
463
00:21:47,603 --> 00:21:49,563
“I got something important
to talk about.â€
464
00:21:49,688 --> 00:21:52,608
So he invites Ron Lawrence, Nashiem,
Stevie J and myself.
465
00:21:52,691 --> 00:21:54,693
Gives us the whole spiel about The Hitmen,
466
00:21:55,194 --> 00:21:56,987
what he wants to do, what his vision is.
467
00:21:57,071 --> 00:21:58,531
He wants to kill the radio,
468
00:21:58,656 --> 00:21:59,865
He wants us to...
469
00:22:00,032 --> 00:22:02,034
each one of us
have our own individual skills.
470
00:22:03,327 --> 00:22:04,787
You got Nashiem Myrick.
471
00:22:04,954 --> 00:22:07,623
Imagine the type of thuggedness
hip-hop you’re hearing.
472
00:22:07,790 --> 00:22:09,917
Then you got Stevie J
who's picking up soup cans,
473
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,002
and spoons and knives,
and making music out of it.
474
00:22:12,086 --> 00:22:15,172
Then you got Ron Lawrence,
who's the more technical out of all of us.
475
00:22:15,506 --> 00:22:18,968
And then you got me
who's like disco, hip-hop, dance,
476
00:22:19,051 --> 00:22:21,554
Puerto Rican, salsa. So, all that...
477
00:22:21,929 --> 00:22:24,682
and all that stuff you're hearing,
I'm bringing all that.
478
00:22:24,807 --> 00:22:28,018
I want to ask you about the Hitman
and how you managed to achieve
479
00:22:28,185 --> 00:22:30,312
a cohesive sound for Bad Boy.
480
00:22:30,396 --> 00:22:32,815
I was always a big fan of Quincy Jones,
481
00:22:32,898 --> 00:22:35,609
not as a producer,but more as an orchestrator.
482
00:22:35,693 --> 00:22:37,444
I never saw him play an instrument,
483
00:22:37,528 --> 00:22:39,989
and that empowered me,because I didn't play any instruments.
484
00:22:40,072 --> 00:22:42,616
I saw him giving direction,
I was good at giving directions,
485
00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,035
and I was like, you know, I could do that.
486
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,872
[electronic beats]
487
00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:54,503
The Hitmen, they believed in meand my leadership,
488
00:22:54,587 --> 00:22:56,589
so you had that cohesive sound.
489
00:22:56,714 --> 00:22:58,132
So it's coming from one brain,
490
00:22:58,215 --> 00:23:00,259
like, our collective brain.
491
00:23:01,093 --> 00:23:04,430
[Ron] The idea of The Hitmenwas to dominate the airwaves.
492
00:23:04,513 --> 00:23:06,765
It was like,every record got to be a Bad Boy record.
493
00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:10,060
Every song you hear has to be us,
494
00:23:10,394 --> 00:23:11,854
and has to be number one.
495
00:23:12,938 --> 00:23:15,566
So, Puffy wasn't giving nobodyany days off.
496
00:23:15,649 --> 00:23:18,485
You all need to be kicking outat least four or five beats a week.
497
00:23:19,778 --> 00:23:22,948
And, there was just so much going onat the time.
498
00:23:23,198 --> 00:23:26,493
That whole Bad Boy/Death Row thing
was a lot of tension for us.
499
00:23:26,577 --> 00:23:29,538
I think the way to get away from thatand to concentrate
500
00:23:29,622 --> 00:23:30,915
would be to go away
501
00:23:31,832 --> 00:23:33,667
and leave all the riff raff behind.
502
00:23:40,341 --> 00:23:43,260
[Deric] Puffy put together the famous tripto Trinidad in '96.
503
00:23:43,427 --> 00:23:46,221
Caribbean sound basin. It was beautiful.
504
00:23:46,305 --> 00:23:47,514
[man] Here he comes.
505
00:23:48,724 --> 00:23:49,600
What's up?
506
00:23:52,603 --> 00:23:55,147
We shipped records out there,
turntables, speakers.
507
00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:56,732
We shipped all our stuff out there.
508
00:23:57,024 --> 00:23:59,026
[Nashiem]
I had never been to Trinidad before that.
509
00:23:59,193 --> 00:24:01,654
Only island I'd been was Long Island.
510
00:24:01,737 --> 00:24:03,364
Right? [chuckling]
511
00:24:04,156 --> 00:24:05,991
Puff had put us into teams.
512
00:24:06,075 --> 00:24:08,202
He said whoever comes upwith the most hits...
513
00:24:08,369 --> 00:24:09,453
I forget the prize.
514
00:24:09,536 --> 00:24:11,872
I'm sure we was playing for something.
515
00:24:11,956 --> 00:24:14,625
Everything was in-house,so we didn't have to go anywhere.
516
00:24:15,042 --> 00:24:17,795
You wake up in the morning,
you're on the drum machine.
517
00:24:17,878 --> 00:24:19,338
And you're doing that all night.
518
00:24:19,421 --> 00:24:21,924
It was just a workforce24 hours around the clock.
519
00:24:22,049 --> 00:24:24,343
Only time we had to leave out
is if we went to the beach.
520
00:24:25,344 --> 00:24:28,764
In Trinidad, I was in the room by myself,
just going through records,
521
00:24:29,014 --> 00:24:31,892
and Barry White is one of my idols.
One of the greatest to ever do it.
522
00:24:31,976 --> 00:24:33,769
And he had that Love Unlimited Orchestra.
523
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:38,941
Mind you, I'm still learning
how to make beats.
524
00:24:39,024 --> 00:24:41,151
I'm the rookie.
So I took the sample,
525
00:24:42,528 --> 00:24:43,654
slowed it down,
526
00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:45,906
and I reversed it.
527
00:24:46,073 --> 00:24:47,992
[mimics a reversed record]
528
00:24:48,075 --> 00:24:49,076
I was like, "I got it."
529
00:24:49,785 --> 00:24:51,787
["Barry's Theme", Barry White]
530
00:24:53,831 --> 00:24:56,250
So, finally,
“Hey, what you doing up there, Puff?
531
00:24:56,542 --> 00:25:00,170
There ain't nothing going on.
Everybody else-- you're getting on me.â€
532
00:25:01,130 --> 00:25:04,049
He don't know I'm Brooklyn style.
He has no idea what's happening up here.
533
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:07,928
You know, what I mean? He has no idea
what he about to fucking hear.
534
00:25:09,138 --> 00:25:10,848
All right, I come downstairs,
535
00:25:11,140 --> 00:25:13,100
chest out.
I got on shorts, it's hot.
536
00:25:13,225 --> 00:25:14,560
You know, Bermuda shit.
537
00:25:14,643 --> 00:25:16,270
[mimes lighting a blunt]
538
00:25:16,812 --> 00:25:20,649
-[beat playing]
-[men whooping]
539
00:25:21,608 --> 00:25:23,902
[joins in reversed theme]
540
00:25:24,611 --> 00:25:26,321
[men whooping]
541
00:25:26,947 --> 00:25:29,116
Skin starts coming off of people's bodies,
542
00:25:29,491 --> 00:25:32,286
snot start coming out people's nose
and they're throwing up.
543
00:25:32,369 --> 00:25:35,706
"What the fuck is that? Oh my God!"
[whooping]
544
00:25:35,789 --> 00:25:37,207
That was a moment for me, like,
545
00:25:37,291 --> 00:25:41,211
"Yeah, let me play y'all this shit.
Press play on that, motherfucker."
546
00:25:41,295 --> 00:25:43,213
You know what I'm saying?
That's how I felt.
547
00:25:43,881 --> 00:25:45,966
♪ Now, what y'all wanna do? ♪
548
00:25:46,216 --> 00:25:49,386
♪ Wanna be ballers?Shot-callers? Brawlers? ♪
549
00:25:49,928 --> 00:25:52,056
♪ Who be dippin' in the BenzWith the spoilers ♪
550
00:25:52,765 --> 00:25:54,850
♪ On the low from the Jake in the Taurus ♪
551
00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,603
♪ Tryin' to get my handsOn some Grants like Horace ♪
552
00:25:57,686 --> 00:25:59,396
♪ Yeah livin' the raw deal ♪
553
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,691
♪ Three course mealsSpaghetti, fettuccine, and veal ♪
554
00:26:02,775 --> 00:26:05,861
[Ron] In Trinidad,Puff was looking for a particular sound.
555
00:26:05,944 --> 00:26:07,863
He was-- he was looking
for something different,
556
00:26:07,946 --> 00:26:11,450
and the way we did it,we were able to give it a certain flavor.
557
00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:12,826
Even though it was commercial,
558
00:26:12,910 --> 00:26:16,163
it was still hard at the same time
and everybody can get to it.
559
00:26:16,246 --> 00:26:18,957
It was unbelievable, the stuff
that we were turning out down there,
560
00:26:19,041 --> 00:26:21,418
because we were stuck on an island
561
00:26:21,502 --> 00:26:23,337
and had nothing else to do
but make music.
562
00:26:24,088 --> 00:26:25,255
♪ You ready, Mase? ♪
563
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:28,425
♪ Party people in the place to be ♪
564
00:26:28,509 --> 00:26:30,135
♪ It's about that time ♪
565
00:26:30,219 --> 00:26:31,303
♪ For us to... ♪
566
00:26:32,930 --> 00:26:34,932
♪ Yo, what you know about goin out? ♪
567
00:26:35,015 --> 00:26:37,726
♪ Head wet, red LexTV's all up in the headrest ♪
568
00:26:37,810 --> 00:26:40,020
♪ Try and live it upRide into bigger truck ♪
569
00:26:40,104 --> 00:26:42,481
♪ Peace all glittered upSticker kid, nigga what? ♪
570
00:26:42,564 --> 00:26:46,151
It was like, every track
we put out murders it.
571
00:26:46,235 --> 00:26:48,862
We have Ma$e, we have Puff album,
572
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:51,490
then you have the Legacy of Big.
573
00:26:51,615 --> 00:26:53,450
We can do no wrong at this time.
574
00:26:53,534 --> 00:26:55,661
♪ Lighting up drugsAlways fighting in the club ♪
575
00:26:55,744 --> 00:26:57,454
♪ I'm the reason they made the drugs ♪
576
00:26:57,538 --> 00:26:59,123
Post Pac and Biggie,
577
00:26:59,248 --> 00:27:03,085
people needed a break, people want
to have fun for a fucking minute.
578
00:27:03,168 --> 00:27:04,670
Just fun music
579
00:27:04,753 --> 00:27:07,422
to escape the fucking ills of the ghetto.
580
00:27:08,215 --> 00:27:10,217
And here come the jiggy era.
581
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:12,803
♪ Bad, bad, bad, bad boy ♪
582
00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:18,892
♪ You make me feel so goodYou know you make me feel so good ♪
583
00:27:19,601 --> 00:27:23,564
[Puff] I just startedto choose real big worldwide samples,
584
00:27:23,647 --> 00:27:27,609
and I figured out
how to keep them black as a motherfucker.
585
00:27:27,693 --> 00:27:31,029
And they would go pop,
but they would still be so fucking black.
586
00:27:31,113 --> 00:27:34,241
We make that cookout music,
we made that get married music,
587
00:27:34,324 --> 00:27:37,411
we make that making baby music.
It was uncharted territory.
588
00:27:37,494 --> 00:27:39,329
♪ Do Mase got the ladies?Yeah, yeah ♪
589
00:27:39,413 --> 00:27:41,748
♪ Do Puff drive Mercedes?Yeah, yeah ♪
590
00:27:41,832 --> 00:27:44,042
♪ Take hits from the 80's?Yeah, yeah ♪
591
00:27:44,126 --> 00:27:46,336
♪ But do it sound so crazy?Yeah, yeah ♪
592
00:27:46,837 --> 00:27:50,174
[DJ Clark Kent] Puff Daddy made itabsolutely perfect to be rich,
593
00:27:50,257 --> 00:27:51,967
and be super-duper fly.
594
00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:55,888
Puff was like, “fuck that - we're goingto buy Bentleys, live in big houses,
595
00:27:55,971 --> 00:27:57,973
we're going to havethe most outrageous videos.
596
00:27:58,056 --> 00:28:00,058
We're just going to be over the top.â€
597
00:28:00,184 --> 00:28:03,353
Motherfuckers wasn't comfortable dancing.
He didn't give a fuck, he danced.
598
00:28:03,437 --> 00:28:05,397
Motherfuckers wasn't comfortable
with shiny suits,
599
00:28:05,522 --> 00:28:08,192
he was like, “Y’all motherfuckers
gonna put shiny suits on.â€
600
00:28:09,318 --> 00:28:11,778
And he made ghetto fabulous,
601
00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:13,238
fabulous!
602
00:28:13,488 --> 00:28:16,074
♪ Now with Sean on the hot trackMelt like it's hot wax ♪
603
00:28:16,158 --> 00:28:18,827
♪ Put it out, all the stores,Bet you could shop that ♪
604
00:28:19,036 --> 00:28:20,579
♪ Leave a nigga with a hot hat ♪
605
00:28:20,662 --> 00:28:22,664
♪ Fronting like Bad Boy ain't got tracks ♪
606
00:28:22,748 --> 00:28:23,790
♪Nigga stop that ♪
607
00:28:23,874 --> 00:28:26,251
♪ There's no guy slickerThan this young fly nigga ♪
608
00:28:26,335 --> 00:28:30,088
[Andre] Puff was a coach, and Puffwas a stylist, and Puff was a curator.
609
00:28:30,714 --> 00:28:33,467
It was so ghetto fabulousand he was so slick,
610
00:28:33,550 --> 00:28:34,927
and so attitude up.
611
00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:37,137
Puff just became the big star of Bad Boy.
612
00:28:37,512 --> 00:28:39,806
All of a sudden,
what Puff and Bad Boy did,
613
00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:43,477
that became the formula
for successful hip-hop.
614
00:28:43,644 --> 00:28:46,563
Like, it wasjust a completely different new
615
00:28:47,064 --> 00:28:49,733
sound, vibe, excitement.
616
00:28:49,816 --> 00:28:52,486
And it took over the clubs in a way that
617
00:28:52,903 --> 00:28:54,696
we had never even witnessed before.
618
00:28:55,113 --> 00:28:56,990
♪ Broken glass everywhere ♪
619
00:28:57,074 --> 00:28:59,660
♪ If it ain't about the money, PuffI just don't care ♪
620
00:29:00,327 --> 00:29:02,537
[Kevin] In '97, Bad Boy had...
621
00:29:02,746 --> 00:29:04,957
a moment in timethat you had to be in awe,
622
00:29:05,207 --> 00:29:08,377
that these guys,they didn't treat themselves like rappers,
623
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:10,212
they treated themselves like rock stars.
624
00:29:10,545 --> 00:29:13,465
And that's what,
you know, allowed them to have
625
00:29:13,924 --> 00:29:15,717
fans of, you know, all colors.
626
00:29:16,301 --> 00:29:19,513
I think it was necessary
for the evolution of hip-hop
627
00:29:19,596 --> 00:29:22,891
and it gave our culture
a breath of fresh air.
628
00:29:22,975 --> 00:29:27,646
He elevated the sonic venture
of hip-hop music in general,
629
00:29:28,105 --> 00:29:30,315
because he was able to do
what he knew best:
630
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,235
make you dance, make you feel good.
631
00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:36,905
And he left you with words:
can’t stop, won’t stop, never give up.
632
00:29:37,739 --> 00:29:39,533
That inspiration, to me,
633
00:29:39,616 --> 00:29:41,994
is probably the most impactful thing
of Sean Combs.
634
00:29:42,286 --> 00:29:44,246
You know, you have to have
a certain, like,
635
00:29:44,329 --> 00:29:47,624
cockiness and a certain swagger,
to believe in yourself.
636
00:29:47,874 --> 00:29:49,543
So, I couldn't do what Quincy Jones did,
637
00:29:49,626 --> 00:29:52,004
I couldn't do what Teddy Riley did
or what Dr. Dre did.
638
00:29:52,087 --> 00:29:55,257
All I could do was what Puff,
Bad Boy and Biggie
639
00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:57,467
could do, and what we was doing
was something special.
640
00:29:57,968 --> 00:30:02,681
To be honest, I wanted to be the flyest,most money-getting
641
00:30:02,764 --> 00:30:05,767
most record-breaking teamin hip-hop history.
642
00:30:05,976 --> 00:30:10,772
♪ Don't push us'Cause we're close to the edge ♪
643
00:30:11,231 --> 00:30:15,193
♪ We're trying not to lose our heads ♪
644
00:30:16,653 --> 00:30:18,530
♪ I get the feeling sometimesThat make me wonder ♪
645
00:30:18,613 --> 00:30:21,158
♪ Why you want to take us underWhy you want to take us under ♪
646
00:30:22,617 --> 00:30:25,203
[narrator] Puff's success would opennew doors for hip-hop,
647
00:30:25,495 --> 00:30:26,872
and help the culture heal.
648
00:30:27,664 --> 00:30:29,166
But from an MC-ing standpoint,
649
00:30:29,583 --> 00:30:31,418
Big's death meantthat the unofficial title
650
00:30:31,501 --> 00:30:32,919
of King of New York was now vacant.
651
00:30:34,588 --> 00:30:36,715
The city needed a new heir to the throne.
652
00:30:37,132 --> 00:30:38,884
And, as the hip-hop gods would have it,
653
00:30:39,051 --> 00:30:41,011
a close friend of Big’s had long ago found
654
00:30:41,094 --> 00:30:44,056
the rightful heir in a neighborhoodnot too far from Big's home.
655
00:30:45,223 --> 00:30:47,309
[slick piano vamp]
656
00:30:52,939 --> 00:30:54,524
[interviewer] When did you meet Jay-Z?
657
00:30:55,233 --> 00:30:56,485
[man] In the Marcy Projects.
658
00:30:56,693 --> 00:30:58,862
He was either 15 or 16.
659
00:30:59,196 --> 00:31:03,367
I was working for a record company,and Jaz-O introduced me to Jay-Z.
660
00:31:03,492 --> 00:31:06,411
If you knew anything about rapin Brooklyn, Jaz-O was, like
661
00:31:07,371 --> 00:31:10,332
the elite of all elite lyricists.
662
00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:13,293
That shit that he's saying is insanity.
663
00:31:13,377 --> 00:31:15,462
♪ I'm teaching and reachingAnd flowing and growing ♪
664
00:31:15,545 --> 00:31:17,297
♪ The rest of the bestRight out of the box ♪
665
00:31:17,381 --> 00:31:19,132
♪ I shoot the funky sweat socks ♪
666
00:31:19,633 --> 00:31:21,635
But he had this guy
that he would tell me about,
667
00:31:21,718 --> 00:31:23,637
"My man Jay. My man Jay. My man Jay."
668
00:31:24,137 --> 00:31:26,139
Jay was making money in the street,
669
00:31:26,431 --> 00:31:28,350
but he wanted to be a rapper.
670
00:31:28,517 --> 00:31:30,519
And we heard him rapping,
I was just like,
671
00:31:30,727 --> 00:31:32,854
“That’s some ill shit.â€
672
00:31:33,522 --> 00:31:35,607
♪ Wreckin in seconds lessThan speeds of light ♪
673
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:37,984
♪ So the miggeda-more that come,The miggeda-merrier, right ♪
674
00:31:38,068 --> 00:31:40,278
♪ Exciting the mic much to the delightOf millions of nubians ♪
675
00:31:40,362 --> 00:31:42,322
♪ And amorites just can't understandThe groove we're in ♪
676
00:31:42,406 --> 00:31:45,033
♪ Cool, it might take a couple of takesFor you to clarify ♪
677
00:31:45,117 --> 00:31:47,494
♪ Don't lie, you coulda never got inOn the first try ♪
678
00:31:47,577 --> 00:31:49,538
♪ Never to worry, I'm not in a hurryTake your time ♪
679
00:31:49,621 --> 00:31:51,748
♪ 'Cause it's my rhymeI siggeda-said so ♪
680
00:31:51,832 --> 00:31:52,958
When I heard him, I was like,
681
00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:55,210
"Jesus Christ,
what the fuck is going on here?"
682
00:31:55,293 --> 00:31:58,880
How could these two dudes
who rhyme together be that good?"
683
00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:02,467
But this guy had something else.
684
00:32:02,551 --> 00:32:04,886
♪ And I'm J-A-Y-Z, y'all know me ♪
685
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:07,848
♪ I wish you co-write, cause you'd pay meAll the rhymes you stole from me ♪
686
00:32:07,931 --> 00:32:09,724
[Big Daddy] I knew Jaz-O from Brooklyn.
687
00:32:09,975 --> 00:32:11,476
He asked me to get down with him,
688
00:32:11,768 --> 00:32:14,396
and we did a little mixtape together.
689
00:32:14,479 --> 00:32:19,651
Jaz said, "Yo, mind
if my man rhyme on the tape with us."
690
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,653
And I'm like, "That's cool."
691
00:32:22,904 --> 00:32:24,239
Afterwards, I'm like,
692
00:32:24,406 --> 00:32:26,700
"I kind of likehis little light skinned homie better.
693
00:32:26,783 --> 00:32:28,201
Let me holler at him."
694
00:32:29,244 --> 00:32:31,538
And that's how me and Jay
ended up connecting.
695
00:32:31,621 --> 00:32:35,000
So then when I went on the next tour,I took Jay-Z.
696
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:40,589
Can you do me a favor?Put your hands together for Jay-Z!
697
00:32:41,047 --> 00:32:42,841
[audience screaming]
698
00:32:43,008 --> 00:32:45,385
♪ Yo check this outHere I am, the man ♪
699
00:32:45,469 --> 00:32:48,054
♪ I zigagedy digagedyThe mic again ♪
700
00:32:48,138 --> 00:32:50,557
[Jay Z rapping, inaudible]
701
00:32:58,523 --> 00:33:00,859
[freestyle continues]
702
00:33:05,197 --> 00:33:07,199
[crowd screaming]
703
00:33:09,367 --> 00:33:12,871
I thought JAY-Z was a dope MC.You know, he was quiet, laid back,
704
00:33:13,163 --> 00:33:16,416
but he was real sarcastic.
He always had something smart to say.
705
00:33:17,792 --> 00:33:20,545
[rapid rhyming]
706
00:33:21,171 --> 00:33:23,173
♪ Wondering, who's that black man ♪
707
00:33:24,132 --> 00:33:27,010
[Fat Joe] I was there the first timeBig Daddy Kane brought him out.
708
00:33:27,093 --> 00:33:29,429
And Jay-Z went up there
and started doing the...
709
00:33:29,513 --> 00:33:31,723
[mimics record scratches]
710
00:33:31,806 --> 00:33:35,685
[freestyle continues]
711
00:33:35,936 --> 00:33:38,438
No way I thought Jay-Z at all
712
00:33:38,563 --> 00:33:41,358
would be Jay-Z now
from that first introduction.
713
00:33:41,983 --> 00:33:43,860
But I remember one time, in Brooklyn,
714
00:33:44,694 --> 00:33:46,613
coming out
of one of them underground joints,
715
00:33:46,696 --> 00:33:48,573
and I seen him battling cats.
716
00:33:48,949 --> 00:33:50,909
Ten, 15 rappers. He was...
717
00:33:52,327 --> 00:33:55,121
He’s going crazy, like,
"Are you fucking crazy?"
718
00:33:55,205 --> 00:33:57,249
He was killing, destroying the crowd,
719
00:33:57,332 --> 00:33:59,000
like a fucking superstar.
720
00:33:59,167 --> 00:34:01,378
♪ Hoppin and poppinThe lyrics you all saw ♪
721
00:34:01,461 --> 00:34:03,004
[freestyle continues]
722
00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:07,175
[DJ Premier] I seen Jay-Zwhen Jay was with Big Daddy Kane.
723
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:10,679
Because Gang Starrs, we would doa lot of shows opening up for Kane.
724
00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:14,306
And it was like,
"Jay-Z is going to be the next hot dude."
725
00:34:14,391 --> 00:34:16,560
So, when Jay wanted to get a deal,
726
00:34:16,643 --> 00:34:18,770
no major label was giving him any shots.
727
00:34:19,062 --> 00:34:20,855
We were just like, what the hell?
728
00:34:21,231 --> 00:34:24,150
We knew what level of the game
he deserved to be in.
729
00:34:26,527 --> 00:34:27,862
[DJ Clark Kent] He was so young,
730
00:34:28,362 --> 00:34:31,366
but the shit he was saying,
you believed him.
731
00:34:31,866 --> 00:34:35,120
You believed him, and you believed in him.
732
00:34:35,661 --> 00:34:39,123
Unfortunately, record labelsdidn't see it at that time.
733
00:34:39,248 --> 00:34:41,251
♪ Jay-Z is outta here ♪
734
00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:44,838
Jay was like,“Okay, I'm going back to the streets.â€
735
00:34:46,255 --> 00:34:48,466
I ain't see him after that for a while.
736
00:34:51,261 --> 00:34:53,263
[car horn honking]
737
00:34:56,808 --> 00:35:00,478
But no one wanted himto have a record deal more than I did.
738
00:35:01,104 --> 00:35:04,399
And I used to go over to Marcy Projects,trying to find Jay.
739
00:35:05,108 --> 00:35:08,820
But, when I did,he was doing way too fine in the street.
740
00:35:09,279 --> 00:35:11,031
Jay was making a lot of money.
741
00:35:11,156 --> 00:35:12,699
He didn't want to rap anymore.
742
00:35:13,992 --> 00:35:17,162
It's hard to tell a kid
who's making money in the street
743
00:35:17,245 --> 00:35:20,040
"You're going to be the best rapper
you've ever seen."
744
00:35:20,624 --> 00:35:22,792
So I had to make him believe.
745
00:35:23,126 --> 00:35:24,961
[rapping inaudible]
746
00:35:25,045 --> 00:35:26,338
♪ Ay yo ♪
747
00:35:26,421 --> 00:35:29,090
[narrator] Jay-Z's talent was obviousto those close to him,
748
00:35:29,591 --> 00:35:32,844
but Jay needed someone to convince himthat there was money in rap.
749
00:35:33,678 --> 00:35:34,929
And he'd find the perfect person
750
00:35:35,013 --> 00:35:38,266
in a fast-talking promoterwith that classic Harlem swagger.
751
00:35:39,017 --> 00:35:41,353
Tell me about hearing Jay
for the first time.
752
00:35:41,436 --> 00:35:43,313
Were you impressed
the first time you heard him?
753
00:35:44,022 --> 00:35:45,690
Clark had played a tape for me.
754
00:35:46,107 --> 00:35:48,902
He was like,
"Yo, Jay’s this dude that could rap.
755
00:35:49,110 --> 00:35:50,945
He did nice, but he’s getting money,
756
00:35:51,071 --> 00:35:53,490
so he’d prefer to go get money
than to do the music.
757
00:35:53,573 --> 00:35:56,034
So, I think a guy like you,
he can relate to."
758
00:35:56,117 --> 00:35:59,329
And I went and met him,
he had Nike Airs on, like I have now.
759
00:36:00,413 --> 00:36:03,583
And dudes from Brooklyn didn’t usuallywear Nike Air, they was called Uptown.
760
00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:06,670
So, I was like kind of impressed
that a Brooklyn cat had on Uptowns.
761
00:36:06,753 --> 00:36:09,255
I was actually blown away by that.
[coughing laughter]
762
00:36:10,590 --> 00:36:13,259
So, we kind of got cool as friends.
763
00:36:13,343 --> 00:36:15,095
And I started managing Jay.
764
00:36:15,345 --> 00:36:18,139
So, I met Dame, ‘cause he was likethis figure in the neighborhood.
765
00:36:18,223 --> 00:36:19,307
He managed Jay.
766
00:36:19,391 --> 00:36:21,643
You know,
Jay was just kind of coming on our radar.
767
00:36:21,726 --> 00:36:24,896
He started, you know, coming out,
doing his freestyles.
768
00:36:24,979 --> 00:36:28,358
And it was kind of a peek
into what he could become,
769
00:36:28,441 --> 00:36:30,360
like the skill set was there.
770
00:36:30,443 --> 00:36:32,362
It just-- Who is this guy?
771
00:36:32,445 --> 00:36:35,281
♪ Knocking sense into thoseThat oppose me ♪
772
00:36:35,573 --> 00:36:37,367
♪ Enticing when slicing through tracks ♪
773
00:36:37,575 --> 00:36:41,287
♪ You screaming Jesus Christ is backAnd God knows, he can rap ♪
774
00:36:41,496 --> 00:36:43,623
♪ Me and Jaz put rhythm on the map ♪
775
00:36:43,707 --> 00:36:46,084
♪ So give him his dabAnd, me, I just take mine ♪
776
00:36:46,167 --> 00:36:48,002
♪ Give me those, gimme this, gimme thatFuck that ♪
777
00:36:48,086 --> 00:36:49,421
[Dame] You know, I knew he was good,
778
00:36:49,504 --> 00:36:51,297
but when I was making demosand shopping him,
779
00:36:51,381 --> 00:36:52,549
people weren't signing us.
780
00:36:52,632 --> 00:36:54,175
Everybody was telling me no.
781
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,344
You know how fucking aggravating it is
782
00:36:56,428 --> 00:36:58,179
arguing with a motherfucker
that has no taste?
783
00:36:59,097 --> 00:37:00,598
And trying to convince him
784
00:37:00,682 --> 00:37:03,059
how important things are,
that they don't even realize exist?
785
00:37:03,184 --> 00:37:05,103
Bottom line is, when we came through,
786
00:37:05,562 --> 00:37:07,856
we had more money
than the people we were talking to,
787
00:37:07,939 --> 00:37:10,358
so it became somewhat
of a demeaning kind of thing.
788
00:37:10,442 --> 00:37:13,027
It was like these nerds
wanted to tell us no.
789
00:37:13,403 --> 00:37:16,531
[sucks air] And I was like, you can't
stop me from putting music up.
790
00:37:16,614 --> 00:37:19,159
We said fuck it,
and so we started Roc-A-Fella.
791
00:37:22,162 --> 00:37:25,457
[Kareem "Biggs" Burke]
Jay and Dame came to me and said,
792
00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:29,544
"Let's put this together," you know.
"We can just do this ourselves," and
793
00:37:29,753 --> 00:37:31,171
we end up forming Roc-A-Fella.
794
00:37:31,671 --> 00:37:33,381
It was like,
we could get in the music business
795
00:37:33,465 --> 00:37:35,425
and we could do
all of these other businesses after
796
00:37:35,508 --> 00:37:36,968
and haves subsidiary companies.
797
00:37:37,051 --> 00:37:39,888
We had this idea in our mind
and we just knew that we would win.
798
00:37:40,013 --> 00:37:40,972
And that's all it was.
799
00:37:41,055 --> 00:37:44,100
Dame being that motivator,
and a visionary that he was,
800
00:37:44,184 --> 00:37:45,977
and then with the talent that Jay had,
801
00:37:46,269 --> 00:37:49,022
and was getting better and better
every song he made,
802
00:37:49,272 --> 00:37:50,648
um... we knew what we had,
803
00:37:50,732 --> 00:37:52,776
even though the world didn't know
at that time.
804
00:37:54,486 --> 00:37:57,697
Every week, Jay was performing.We took over every show.
805
00:37:57,906 --> 00:38:00,033
Jay wasn't even supposed to performat half the places.
806
00:38:00,116 --> 00:38:02,494
He would just go on stage,grab the mic, and perform.
807
00:38:04,037 --> 00:38:05,038
And then afterwards,
808
00:38:05,121 --> 00:38:07,123
we would throw a thousand dollars
into the crowd.
809
00:38:07,582 --> 00:38:09,584
[crowd cheering]
810
00:38:11,044 --> 00:38:14,172
We'd go to another club and do that,
probably three or four times a night.
811
00:38:14,255 --> 00:38:16,090
This was just what we did,
everywhere we went.
812
00:38:16,758 --> 00:38:19,969
So, that’s how we kind of got our nameetched in stone.
813
00:38:20,386 --> 00:38:22,222
[Fat Joe] Roc-A-Fella tookthe different approach
814
00:38:22,305 --> 00:38:23,473
than everybody else.
815
00:38:23,556 --> 00:38:26,226
When they first came in the game,
they had money
816
00:38:26,309 --> 00:38:29,062
and this incredible rapper Jay-Z,
817
00:38:29,187 --> 00:38:31,981
but they were bragging
about selling drugs,
818
00:38:32,065 --> 00:38:36,152
ripping plaques off the wall,
beating up execs.
819
00:38:36,402 --> 00:38:37,570
And I'm like, what the fuck?
820
00:38:37,654 --> 00:38:38,988
I'm trying to be the nice guy.
821
00:38:39,072 --> 00:38:40,865
They're over here walling for the night.
822
00:38:41,741 --> 00:38:44,035
[Dame] What people bought intowhen it came to Roc-A-Fella,
823
00:38:44,118 --> 00:38:46,496
was the fact that we were bosses,that we was getting money.
824
00:38:46,746 --> 00:38:48,790
We were giving you a lifestyle
to buy into.
825
00:38:48,873 --> 00:38:51,501
You wasn’t just hearing it,
you were seeing it, and we held court
826
00:38:51,668 --> 00:38:52,669
that was our marketing.
827
00:38:52,752 --> 00:38:55,129
We had the money to do things
other rappers couldn't.
828
00:38:55,463 --> 00:38:57,632
I had this feature on my show
called Battle of the Beats.
829
00:38:57,715 --> 00:38:59,342
For an upcoming artist,
it was a big deal,
830
00:38:59,425 --> 00:39:02,554
because if you won a few nights in a row,
you were gonna get played
831
00:39:02,637 --> 00:39:04,013
every night until you lost.
832
00:39:04,097 --> 00:39:06,558
I got this record,and it won five nights in a row.
833
00:39:06,724 --> 00:39:08,351
Later, Damon Dash told me that
834
00:39:08,434 --> 00:39:11,104
they paid people to call all night
[laughing]
835
00:39:11,187 --> 00:39:13,022
and flooded the lines for the song.
836
00:39:13,106 --> 00:39:14,816
[Ski Beatz] First time I workedwith Roc-A-Fella
837
00:39:14,899 --> 00:39:16,401
was the song "In My Lifetime."
838
00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,903
They paid me in cash in a book bag.
839
00:39:19,279 --> 00:39:21,990
I just get on the train
with, like, twenty grand in the backpack,
840
00:39:22,115 --> 00:39:23,074
it was crazy.
841
00:39:24,742 --> 00:39:26,327
They did everything big, you know,
842
00:39:26,411 --> 00:39:28,413
they pulled up in the craziest cars.
843
00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:31,207
It was a movement,from the women around to the jewelry.
844
00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:33,710
When you saw them,
you thought Roc-A-Fella.
845
00:39:34,002 --> 00:39:36,337
Right now, I got the Roc-A-Fellas with me.
846
00:39:36,504 --> 00:39:39,132
No doubt, Jay-Z,
yo, you blowing it up, man.
847
00:39:39,215 --> 00:39:41,426
I'm trying to kill it, man.
The album is bananas.
848
00:39:41,509 --> 00:39:43,303
When is the album dropping or...
849
00:39:43,469 --> 00:39:45,054
In April. In April. Not yet.
850
00:39:45,138 --> 00:39:46,389
What's what's the name of it?
851
00:39:46,556 --> 00:39:47,515
Reasonable Doubt.
852
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:49,267
[Jay Z] The trial begins, you know.
853
00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:51,352
Reasonable Doubt, when we was making it,
854
00:39:51,477 --> 00:39:53,897
I remember Jay-Z
pulling me to the side
855
00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:56,482
and saying,
"Yo, I'm about to make you famous."
856
00:39:56,566 --> 00:39:59,569
I was like, "Whatever."
Then, when that record came out,
857
00:40:01,029 --> 00:40:04,157
and I saw how New York received it,
it was over.
858
00:40:04,824 --> 00:40:07,118
♪ While others spit that Wonderama shit ♪
859
00:40:07,201 --> 00:40:09,495
♪ Me and my conglomeratesShall remain anonymous ♪
860
00:40:09,913 --> 00:40:11,247
♪ Caught up in the finest shit ♪
861
00:40:11,372 --> 00:40:13,750
♪ Live out my dreamsUntil my heart gave out ♪
862
00:40:13,833 --> 00:40:16,586
♪ Involved with cream, you know exactlyWhat this shit's about ♪
863
00:40:16,669 --> 00:40:18,880
♪ Fuck y'all mean?Handlin' since a teen ♪
864
00:40:18,963 --> 00:40:21,674
♪ I dish out like the point guardOff your favorite team ♪
865
00:40:21,758 --> 00:40:23,468
♪ Without doubt, my life ain't rosy ♪
866
00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:25,887
[Ski] Jay's voice wasn'tthe regular voice, you know?
867
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:28,806
He wasn't doing what all the otherhip-hop guys was doing at the time.
868
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:31,935
Crazy word play, crazy metaphors,
you know?
869
00:40:32,435 --> 00:40:34,354
Double entendres, all kind of crazy stuff.
870
00:40:35,438 --> 00:40:37,523
♪ Shit I'm involved withGot me pins and needles ♪
871
00:40:37,607 --> 00:40:39,192
♪ And my cerebral bleedsThe wickedest evil ♪
872
00:40:39,275 --> 00:40:40,860
♪ Thoughts that this sportWill feed you ♪
873
00:40:40,944 --> 00:40:42,278
♪ Deep facts in the game ♪
874
00:40:42,362 --> 00:40:44,364
♪ So deep, fiends could catch a freeze ♪
875
00:40:44,447 --> 00:40:46,991
[Dame] Reasonable Doubt, we were gonna tryto make it like a movie.
876
00:40:47,075 --> 00:40:49,077
It was supposed to be a storyabout hustling.
877
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,078
That shit was, like,
878
00:40:50,286 --> 00:40:53,206
as if there was a newscaster
just telling you exactly what was going on
879
00:40:53,289 --> 00:40:55,833
in our life, and what we were feeling.
It was a real perspective.
880
00:40:55,917 --> 00:40:58,753
If you were in the game, you understood
that we were brothers too.
881
00:40:59,379 --> 00:41:02,006
♪ Rappers going brokeTrying to keep up with me ♪
882
00:41:02,090 --> 00:41:04,092
[Kareem] Jay really madethat album for us,
883
00:41:04,425 --> 00:41:06,803
for Roc-A-Fella, to impress us,
884
00:41:06,928 --> 00:41:08,680
because we were all doing the same things.
885
00:41:09,097 --> 00:41:10,932
As long as we were in there going crazy,
886
00:41:11,015 --> 00:41:15,436
nodding our head, telling him
how dope the verses were, he was happy.
887
00:41:15,561 --> 00:41:17,355
They were three business guys.
888
00:41:17,438 --> 00:41:20,316
They came from hustling,and then here was this opportunity
889
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,318
to make some money in a legal way.
890
00:41:22,402 --> 00:41:24,862
Like, how do I take this
to the next level, what do I do?
891
00:41:24,946 --> 00:41:27,532
They’re looking at Bad Boy
and seeing all of that,
892
00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:30,368
like, "Okay, how can --
They making how much money over there?"
893
00:41:30,868 --> 00:41:33,079
[Kareem] Roc-A-Fella wasalways about independence.
894
00:41:33,162 --> 00:41:34,998
We did everything by ourselves.
895
00:41:35,081 --> 00:41:37,083
But, now, we have a gold album,
896
00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:39,961
and we had all this momentum,and we just used that
897
00:41:40,044 --> 00:41:41,295
to close the next deal.
898
00:41:41,587 --> 00:41:45,383
And that’s how, eventually, we end updoing a deal with Def Jam.
899
00:41:47,135 --> 00:41:49,554
[Kev] I was known for getting recordsplayed on the radio.
900
00:41:49,637 --> 00:41:52,306
One day, I was in Baltimore
and it’s Thanksgiving night.
901
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:56,185
Irv called me and said, "Kev,
Dame, Biggs, and Jay gonna come see you."
902
00:41:56,477 --> 00:41:58,354
I said, "Oh, Roc-A-Fella."
He said, "Yeah."
903
00:41:58,438 --> 00:42:02,108
And I remember seeing a bunch of guysin black leather jackets
904
00:42:02,525 --> 00:42:04,819
with the Roc-A-Fella logo. [laughing]
905
00:42:04,944 --> 00:42:07,238
Them boys would always roll like that,you know?
906
00:42:07,405 --> 00:42:09,866
So, my mom cooks food and everything.
907
00:42:09,949 --> 00:42:11,659
I went and got plates for everybody.
908
00:42:11,743 --> 00:42:14,162
So, we ate--
We ate Thanksgiving dinner in the club.
909
00:42:14,245 --> 00:42:18,166
You know what I mean? So, I said,
"Jay, why don’t you rock with us."
910
00:42:18,249 --> 00:42:19,917
And the rest is history.
911
00:42:22,795 --> 00:42:25,757
Anybody who signed with Def Jamat that time, your life changed,
912
00:42:25,923 --> 00:42:27,884
and you made records for the radio
913
00:42:27,967 --> 00:42:29,844
and your approach to making music changed.
914
00:42:29,927 --> 00:42:32,472
More radio playwas going to get you more money.
915
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,225
And Jay is the boss,
so he's going to be like, "Okay, got it."
916
00:42:36,851 --> 00:42:39,479
[interviewer] With Def Jam, what wasthe vision for that second album,
917
00:42:39,562 --> 00:42:40,813
In My Lifetime, Volume 1?
918
00:42:40,897 --> 00:42:41,731
Money.
919
00:42:42,106 --> 00:42:43,691
Just trying to do what Puff was doing.
920
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:45,902
[both laughing]
921
00:42:46,235 --> 00:42:49,155
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we did that Sunshine video,
922
00:42:49,822 --> 00:42:52,408
with them shiny fucking suits,dancing around.
923
00:42:52,533 --> 00:42:53,618
Everybody laughing at us.
924
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:56,913
I hated it. It wasn't us.
925
00:42:57,205 --> 00:42:58,206
It broke my heart.
926
00:42:58,456 --> 00:43:00,458
[loud laughing]
927
00:43:01,501 --> 00:43:03,377
♪ Who be in a Japanese restaurant ♪
928
00:43:03,461 --> 00:43:05,296
♪ Eating sushi, drinking sakiIt's me ♪
929
00:43:05,379 --> 00:43:07,215
♪ And my mommy with the doobie ♪
930
00:43:07,298 --> 00:43:08,341
♪ Smelling like miyaki ♪
931
00:43:08,424 --> 00:43:11,094
♪ Half Philippine thingFor now let's call her Suki ♪
932
00:43:11,177 --> 00:43:13,054
♪ Got me booty banging properly ♪
933
00:43:13,137 --> 00:43:15,431
♪ In Versace pantsCocky boot legged stance ♪
934
00:43:15,515 --> 00:43:17,600
[DJ Clark]
Here's the crazy part about "Sunshine."
935
00:43:17,725 --> 00:43:20,103
If you listen to it, that shit is fire.
936
00:43:20,228 --> 00:43:21,187
It's not whack.
937
00:43:21,312 --> 00:43:25,066
It's just that for the person
that he was at that precise moment,
938
00:43:25,149 --> 00:43:28,736
it just wasn't the right thing,
because it sounded like something
939
00:43:28,986 --> 00:43:30,488
somebody else would have done.
940
00:43:30,655 --> 00:43:31,531
It wasn't us.
941
00:43:31,614 --> 00:43:33,908
I always looked
at Puff and them like Motown,
942
00:43:33,991 --> 00:43:36,327
like they were more R&B,
where we were hip-hop.
943
00:43:36,452 --> 00:43:38,204
You know,
no disrespect or anything like that.
944
00:43:38,287 --> 00:43:39,497
It just two different lanes.
945
00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:42,458
So, that record,
that wasn’t what Roc-A-Fella was about.
946
00:43:43,251 --> 00:43:45,586
But, it evolved us, and as we evolved,
947
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:48,172
I wanted to see more
and I wanted it to mean more
948
00:43:48,256 --> 00:43:49,924
and I wanted Roc-A-Fella to be more.
949
00:43:50,258 --> 00:43:52,426
♪ Just continue to be my sunshine ♪
950
00:43:53,928 --> 00:43:56,097
[Kevin] Jay wasn't afraid to experiment,
951
00:43:56,681 --> 00:44:00,643
but afterwards, he looked at it
and said, "I'm not doing that."
952
00:44:01,227 --> 00:44:04,689
His heart was always coming
from the point of view of being street.
953
00:44:04,772 --> 00:44:07,108
Jay always gonna be in Tims and a hoodie.
954
00:44:07,191 --> 00:44:08,693
That’s just—That’s who he is.
955
00:44:08,776 --> 00:44:11,946
You know, and that shift happened
with Hard Knock Life.
956
00:44:12,446 --> 00:44:14,782
Jay-Z took it back to the streets.
957
00:44:15,491 --> 00:44:17,410
♪ From standing on the corners bopping ♪
958
00:44:17,535 --> 00:44:20,454
♪ To drivin' some of the hottest carsNew York has ever seen ♪
959
00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:23,583
♪ From droppin' some of the hottest versesRap has ever heard ♪
960
00:44:23,708 --> 00:44:26,502
♪ From the dope spot, with the smoke GlockFleeing the murder scene ♪
961
00:44:26,919 --> 00:44:29,755
♪ You know me wellFrom nightmares of a lonely cell ♪
962
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:30,673
♪ My only hell ♪
963
00:44:30,756 --> 00:44:32,592
♪ But since when y'all niggasKnow me to fail ♪
964
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:35,970
♪ It's the hard knock life for us ♪
965
00:44:36,179 --> 00:44:38,848
[Ski] When that song came out,that put him in a whole different light.
966
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,934
You know it’s commercial,
you know it’s mainstream.
967
00:44:42,351 --> 00:44:44,312
But at the same time,
there's something about it.
968
00:44:44,395 --> 00:44:45,938
The beat is so hip-hop.
969
00:44:46,022 --> 00:44:48,024
♪ And sip the Cris' and get pissy-pissy ♪
970
00:44:48,232 --> 00:44:52,069
♪ Flow infinitely like the memoryOf my nigga Biggie, baby! ♪
971
00:44:52,153 --> 00:44:54,197
♪ You know it's hell when I come through ♪
972
00:44:54,447 --> 00:44:57,491
What Jay did, remaining exactly who he is,
973
00:44:57,575 --> 00:44:59,619
that street theme rapper,
974
00:44:59,702 --> 00:45:01,329
he knocked it out the park.
975
00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:04,790
"Hard Knock Life" sold six million albums.
976
00:45:05,583 --> 00:45:07,501
As Jay started to cross over,
977
00:45:07,585 --> 00:45:09,462
the appeal started to cross over as well.
978
00:45:09,545 --> 00:45:11,714
You know, he became a worldwide icon.
979
00:45:12,632 --> 00:45:15,384
So now, when Jay raps about cars,
980
00:45:15,509 --> 00:45:17,762
clothing lines, liquor businesses,
981
00:45:17,845 --> 00:45:20,514
people gravitated toward it,
and then we started to see
982
00:45:20,598 --> 00:45:23,142
brands go from zero to 100.
983
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:26,812
What I saw was people making money off of,
and leveraging our celebrity
984
00:45:26,896 --> 00:45:28,648
and bringing awareness to brands
and selling.
985
00:45:28,731 --> 00:45:30,650
I was like, we might as well
just make the brands
986
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,778
and bring awareness to them ourselves,
and that's what we did.
987
00:45:35,363 --> 00:45:36,656
So we started Rocawear.
988
00:45:37,323 --> 00:45:38,991
Rocawear launched.
989
00:45:39,075 --> 00:45:41,869
Eighteen months later,it was already doing 80 million dollars.
990
00:45:41,953 --> 00:45:45,206
We knew we were building somethingthat was gonna be bigger than ourselves.
991
00:45:45,623 --> 00:45:48,292
And we had to learn how to make moneyfrom the street.
992
00:45:49,252 --> 00:45:51,045
When you hustling, and you on the street,
993
00:45:51,128 --> 00:45:54,340
general principle is
having a product and selling a product
994
00:45:54,423 --> 00:45:56,300
and making a margin, and reinvesting it,
995
00:45:56,384 --> 00:45:58,803
and putting it back in the street.
It's called flipping.
996
00:45:59,387 --> 00:46:01,764
With Roc-A-Fella, like,
that’s what we was doing.
997
00:46:04,433 --> 00:46:07,603
You know, we had control over the music,
we had control over the fashion.
998
00:46:08,437 --> 00:46:10,481
To me, we could do everything betterthan everybody,
999
00:46:10,564 --> 00:46:12,692
because we had
these real authentic experiences
1000
00:46:12,775 --> 00:46:14,277
that people now say are legendary.
1001
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,239
And also, that the originating of cool
comes from the street.
1002
00:46:18,447 --> 00:46:19,407
And we're in the street.
1003
00:46:20,241 --> 00:46:23,160
But... it almost killed us,
you know what I'm saying?
1004
00:46:23,494 --> 00:46:25,037
[both laughing]
1005
00:46:25,871 --> 00:46:28,582
♪ It's the hard knock life for us ♪
1006
00:46:29,917 --> 00:46:31,919
Roc-A-Fella Records forever, y’all.
1007
00:46:32,128 --> 00:46:33,087
Yeah!
1008
00:46:33,796 --> 00:46:34,630
Ah ha!
1009
00:46:34,714 --> 00:46:36,716
[crowd erupting]
1010
00:46:38,092 --> 00:46:39,927
♪ It's a hard knock life ♪
1011
00:46:41,304 --> 00:46:44,974
[narrator] Jay’s success with Roc-A-Fella,and Puff’s success with Bad Boy
1012
00:46:45,057 --> 00:46:48,394
signaled the beginning of a new eraand mentality in hip-hop.
1013
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,939
Not only did they show hip-hopthe true value of their music,
1014
00:46:52,023 --> 00:46:54,859
but they also understandthat hip-hoppers were cultural leaders
1015
00:46:54,942 --> 00:46:57,278
and trendsetters on a global scale.
1016
00:46:58,279 --> 00:47:01,073
Together, Bad Boyand Roc-A-Fella made hip-hop
1017
00:47:01,157 --> 00:47:02,908
about more than selling records.
1018
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,910
They were selling hip-hop culture.
1019
00:47:05,661 --> 00:47:07,663
-Wow!
-[crowd cheering]
91058
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.