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["Hip-Hop" by Dead Prez playing]
-♪ Uh, uh ♪-♪ One, two, one, two ♪
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-♪ Uh ♪-♪ One, two, one, two ♪
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♪ Uh, uh ♪
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♪ One thing 'bout musicWhen it hit you feel no pain ♪
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♪ White folks says it controls your brainI know better than that, that's game ♪
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♪ And we ready for thatTwo soldiers head of the pack ♪
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♪ Matter of fact who got the gat?And where my army at? ♪
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-♪ Rather attack and not react ♪-♪ It's bigger than hip-hop ♪
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♪ Hip-hop, hip-hop, hip ♪
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♪ It's bigger than hip-hop ♪
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♪ Hip-hop, hip-hop ♪
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[record scratch, sirens wailing]
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[car whooshes by]
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[Shad K.] If you took a snapshotof New York hip-hop in the late '80s,
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it would look like this.
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Lyrical,
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political, and Afrocentric.
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But this era would be short-lived.
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[Shad] As hip-hop entered the early 90's,
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hardcore West Coast rapwas running the game,
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capturing the nation’s attentionand dominating the charts.
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For the first time ever, New York City,
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the birthplace of hip-hop was in a rut.
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[Cheo Coker] The Chronic blows upand all of a sudden,
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once Snoop hit, once those records hit,
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I mean, it was like,
"Commercially, this is passing us by."
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Like, "This West Coast sound
is taking over everything.
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We can’t even get East Coast
hip-hop records played on the radio."
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[Bonz Malone]
We were still struggling to match up
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to the music on the West Coast,
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so for New York,
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it’s the producers that setthe tone for the '90s.
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[Busta Rhymes] We're some competitive
motherfuckers-- Just New York, period.
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Everybody wants to be better
than the next motherfucker.
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So, at the time, it forced you
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to become your best self.
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[Shad] In the early '90s,behind the scenes
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a generation of New York producerswere in stealth combat
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to become the best beatsmithsin the five Burroughs.
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For the producers, the tools of warlay where hip-hop started:
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in the records.
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But with the sampling police on them,and a drive to push their sound,
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they needed to dig deep into the crates.
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And they’d find all the vinyl they'd needto kick off an East Coast rap renaissance
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in a dusty old building near Times Square.
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The Roosevelt Hotel.
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[drum roll]
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[Evil Dee] The convention was dope.It would always happen on a Sunday.
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Q-Tip would show up at my house 5:00 a.m.
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and drive straight to the hotel
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so we could look over the recordsbefore everybody.
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And it was like,a handful of people there.
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Kid Capri was always there early.
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[Kid Capri]
Being that it was in the hotel,
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I said, "Why don’t I get me a room
in the hotel,
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come downstairs and get down there
at six in the morning."
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[Kid Capri] Come in when they’resetting up and that’s when I’ll start.
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I’m walking out of therewhile everybody’s in line coming in.
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[ding]
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I did this four years straight.
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[Jeff “Chairman” Mao]
Before the Roosevelt,
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there were certainly flea markets
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and stores that you would go
to dig for records,
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but not with the same focus.
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Not with the same targeted audience
of producers and DJs
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and people in the hip-hop community.
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It was amazing walking into that room
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and seeing the people who were there.
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[Pharoahe Monch] The Large Professor,Buckwild, Q-Tip,
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Lord Finesse, Diamond D,
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Prince Be,
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and so many producersthat you’re just like,
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"Am I looking at the records
or am I looking at the artist?"
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It was dope, man.
And we looked forward to it.
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Not only just for the opportunity
to find records
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but definitely the camaraderie.
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[Shad] What was the vibe likewith all those producers there?
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-Was it competitive or was it love?
-We had mutual respect for each other.
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We also had our battle angle
with each other.
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I had to get the better jointsthan Q-Tip and than Pete Rock.
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We all were like that.It was just our hip-hop competition.
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I spent a lot of money at the convention.
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[Pete Rock] My first time going in therewas pretty hectic.
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You got cats, you know,
looking over your shoulder.
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You got people just looking
at what you got.
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-When it’s time to compete...
-[Shad chuckles]
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-...you know, it’s an all-out war.
-[Shad laughs]
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[Q-Tip] You be digging through the bins
and they’d be like: "What’s up, man?"
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"What's up!"Â Trying to see what you get.
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Pete Rock would get bullshit records
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and be like: “Nah. I sampled off of this.”
And be lying and shit like that.
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Sorry, Pete, I had to blow up the spot,
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but that shit is funny, nigga.
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[both laugh]
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[Large Professor] You would see a guylooking over in the next guys bin,
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or you saw a little elbows.
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-It was a lot of politics.
-Getting angles.
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Yeah, man. It was angles.
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It was politics. Yo, you wouldn’t believe.
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[Large Professor]
The level of records always mattered.
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I mean to the average person,
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it’s like, "Oh, records..." and all that,
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but to us it’s… something big, for real.
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[Pharoahe Monch]
It was secretive and competitive...
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and it was expensive as fuck too.
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[Shad laughs]
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But you knew that you could
possibly find that next record
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that could change your career.
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[Lord Finesse]
That’s what made that era so unique.
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The key was to come up
with the most obscure loop
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and I think the moreyou become enlightened,
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the more you start digging even more.
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You want other artists
you’ve never heard of.
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[Pete Rock] As you dig,you learn about musicians.
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We’re always curious about credits
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like, "Who’s playing on this album?"
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Then you start lookingfor certain instruments
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like sounds you want.
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You know, anything that had excitement.
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What were very hunted albums
at The Roosevelt?
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-I can’t tell you.
-[Shad laughs]
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I can’t tell you that.
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Listen, there’s something on everything.
You understand?
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It depends on how you hear it
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and how you're
laying it down with the beat,
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you know what I mean?
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[jazz trumpet playing]
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[Shad] The art of findingthe perfect record to sample
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has a name in hip-hop: "digging."
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But digging was only part of the job.
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The real skill was turning obscure gems
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into head nodding beats.
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To do that, you needed a sampler.
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And in the early '90s,there was one sampler of choice.
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The SP 1200.
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♪ Yeah, so lovely ♪
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["They Reminisce Over You"
by C.L. Smooth and Pete Rock]
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[Large Professor]
This is definitely a hip-hop staple, man.
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You brought some records
you got from The Roosevelt.
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Oh, yeah. Some highly coveted records.
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It’s a Gwen McCrae joint.
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It’s a record I’ve loved for years.
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[music playing]
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[click, key shifts up]
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[scratch]
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[key shifts down]
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[warbling, clicks]
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You isolate the sound
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and now you've taken that one sound
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and you can expand it,
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coming up with your own thing.
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[pitch alternates]
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[Shad] Different pitches?
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Yeah.
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[Large Professor] Throw the drums with it…
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Hell, yeah.
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[Shad] It just makes you wanna rap!
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-[laughs]
-[Large Professor] Exactly.
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We got it.
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[Large Professor]
See, that’s the thing about the SP,
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is that it has that real hip-hop
kind of funky, smoky sound
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to the drums especially.
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[drumbeats]
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Thunderous.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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You know, the circuitry in there
makes it sound scuffed like that, man.
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That real New York sound.
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-Yeah.
-Yeah.
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[Q-Tip] Large Professor actually showed meall the guts of the SP 1200.
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He would show me how to buzz through it.
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And I was like, "Wow,
I didn’t know none of this shit."
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I came from a tradition
of making pause tapes.
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If you heard of a piece,you'd have to record it,
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rewind it, get that piece back, record it.
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Rewind it, get that piece back,
record it, rewind, get that...
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Like, for hours and hours.
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So, the SP 1200...
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once I saw that shit,
I was like, "Fuck all that."
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[both laugh]
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["They Reminisce Over You"
by C.L. Smooth and Pete Rock]
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♪Yeah, so lovely ♪
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[Pete Rock ] Back in the 90’s,I was married to the SP 1200,
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you know what I’m saying?
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You've got to getevery element to the beat
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in 10.2 seconds.
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So, what I did was put the record on 45,
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and played it faster.
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Then slowed it down in here.
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Boom, that's it.
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I don’t care what’s new out.
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There’s no better machine
in the music industry.
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["They Reminisce Over You"
by C.L. Smooth and Pete Rock]
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[DJ Premier]
Large Professor taught me things
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that got me to another level.
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The way he would truncate beats,
he was like...
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and he was doing it almost like
doing a magic trick,
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and I would just stare at him like,
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"Damn, how do you do that?"
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He taught me how to take it to that level.
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The SP 1200 hadthe littlest bit of sampling time,
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but I like the limitation
so that you’re forced to be creative
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with that little bit of time
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and still make a ill-ass beat.
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[Lord Finesse] It’s not justsampling loops in big chunks,
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it’s taking a note, maybe two notes.
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You add strings. You add horn hits.
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You add little nuances that people
don't even pay attention to.
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[Busta Rhymes]
At the time, Large Professor
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was starting to really kill shitas a producer.
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You know, Pete Rock was startingto really kill shit as a producer.
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Preme-o was really startingto kill shit as a producer.
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The climate shift that these dudes
created through the music,
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it was incredible.
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And then they were all friends?
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[laughs]
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You really had the Avengers and the X-Men
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in real life, as producer crews.
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So that was just mind blowing to me.
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I thought that they had super powers.
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[siren wails, horns honk]
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[dog woofs, bus squeals and hisses]
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[Shad] With the soundscapeof East Coast hip-hop being elevated
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by this elite group of producers,
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they now needed a new generationof street-hardened MCs to match it.
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And one MC would stand above them all.
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A raspy voiced teen from Queensbridge
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would define this eraand captivate New York.
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♪ YeahStraight out the fuckin dungeons of rap ♪
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♪ Where fake niggaz don't make it back ♪
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["N.Y. State of Mind" by Nas playing]
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Let me formally introduce my boy.
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Queensbridge in the motherfucking house!
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[Large Professor] Roll that tape.
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-[Nas] Queensbridge!
-Turn that shit up.
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-♪ Hey, yo it’s like that y’all ♪-♪ That y’all ♪
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[Shad] I want to ask you about Nasand how you started working with Nas.
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[Large Professor] Got togetherthrough common acquaintances.
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It was like, "Yo, you got to hear
this kid Nas, man.
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Nas."
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-[Shad] In the streets?-[Large Professor] Yeah, in the streets.
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NAS had a name ringing.
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And we just linked up one dayand I liked his style,
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that he was out of the ordinary.
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He wouldn’t say the predictable.
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♪ My troops roll up with a strange force ♪
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♪ I was trapped in a cageAnd let out by the main source ♪
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♪ Swimming in women like a lifeguard ♪
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♪ Put on a bulletproof, niggaI strike hard ♪
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♪ Kidnap the president's wifeWithout a plan ♪
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♪ And hanging niggasLike the Ku Klux Klan ♪
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[Bobbito] Nas hadthe Live At The Barbeque verse.
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That was it. He wasn’t signed.
He didn’t have a single.
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He didn’t have a deal.
He just had one verse,
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and we were revering him like he was...
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the "La Di Da", you know,
Rakim of the '90s.
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-Wow, just off of one verse.
-Off of one verse.
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♪ Street’s disciple, my raps are trifle ♪
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♪ I shoot slugs from my brainJust like a rifle ♪
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♪ Stampede the stageI leave the microphone split ♪
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♪ Play Mr TuffyWhile I'm on some pretty tone shit ♪
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♪ Verbal assassin, my architect pleases ♪
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♪ When I was twelve,I went to hell for snuffing Jesus ♪
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[Bobbito] That sort of gravely depth
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that his voice had even at that age,
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it’s like one of those voices
that would be like:
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"Come here, motherfucker."
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[both laugh]
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You’re like, "Oh, shit!"
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♪ Science is dropped, my raps are toxic ♪
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♪ My voicebox locks and excelsLike a rocket ♪
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-♪ It's like that y'all ♪-♪ That y'all! ♪
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I was like, "Wow. Dude is ill, ill, ill."
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He was that energy and that voice
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that was just real hip-hop.
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When everybody's saying,
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"Keep it real," or "real hip-hop,"
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you know, Nas is really the archetype
of that whole premise.
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[Faith Newman] I heard about Nasthe same way almost everybody did.
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I heard him on the Main Source album
on Live At The Barbeque.
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I said to myself: "Who is this kid?
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Seriously, who is this kid
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who's making lyrics like
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'When I was 12,
I went to hell for snuffing Jesus'?
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That’s the kid I want to meet."
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I went to Large Professor.
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And I said you have to get mewith this kid Nasty Nas.
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I was just on a mission to sign him.
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♪ Nasty Nas in your area ♪
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♪ About to cause mass hysteria ♪
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[Shad] After amping New York streetswith just one verse,
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Nas’ signing set upthe most anticipated debut
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in hip-hop history,
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the cryptically titled Illmatic.
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["Halftime" by Nas playing]
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[Faith Newman] Originally, I thought
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that it would be a project
for Large Professor to do,
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because that’s how projects got done then.
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One producer would do the whole thing.
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But Nas just had a wish list of peoplethat he wanted to work with
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and they all wanted to work with him.
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-[reporter] Who’s working on the album?
-Q-Tip,
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Pete Rock, Large Professor,
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my man L.E.S. from The Bridge,
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and my man DJ Premier,
you know what I mean,
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just collaborated to help a brother out.
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[Bobbito] Look, he had the most iconicproducers of the entire decade.
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It’s like Larry Byrd, LeBron,
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Bill Russell and Tiny Archibald.
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"Y'all just gotta run with my squad,
all right?" "Yo, cool."
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So, to me, there’s nothing that compares
in any era of hip-hop.
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That’s considered, you know,
one of the great all-star casts
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of producers to be involved
with one record.
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-That was monumental.
-Absolutely.
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What was the vibe like with all
the different producers together?
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[Large Professor] People always say,"Yo, was there a rivalry?"
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It wasn’t.
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Beat-wise, you know, we was alljust rooting for each other.
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I would see Prem and Nascoming back from the studio
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and I would say,
"Yo, let me hear what it is."
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And he would let us hear
and be like: "Ah, that’s crazy.
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That's gonna get 'em."
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[DJ Premier] When I started workingon "N.Y. State of Mind,"
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-I had the drums and the...
-[Shad] Okay.
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[DJ Premier] That’s all I had.
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But I was like,
"That’s how it’s got to start."
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It’s got to start like it’s a lift off.
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Nas said, "Let’s just play records."
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So we just listened to records,
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And we was just smoking and drinking
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and thumbing around with the turntable.
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Once I hit that Joe Chamberspiano part break down.
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We both looked up like,
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"Ooh, bring it back."
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♪ Rappers I monkey flip 'emWith the funky rhythm I be kicking ♪
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♪ MusicianInflicting composition of pain ♪
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♪ I'm like Scarface sniffing cocaine ♪
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♪ Holding an M-16See with the pen I'm extreme ♪
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♪ Now, bullet holes left in my peepholes ♪
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♪ I'm suited up in street clothes ♪
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♪ Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes ♪
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[Faith Newman]
His motivation was to tell his stories.
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That’s what Illmatic is about.
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This young kid looking out his window.
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It’s like Shakespeare...
but from Queensbridge.
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♪ Nothing’s equivalentTo New York State of Mind ♪
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[Shad] Do you rememberhearing Illmatic for the first time?
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I was like, "Fuck, man!
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How did he get to work
with all those fucking dudes?"
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I think every MC in New York
felt that way.
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But then when you heard the project
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you understoodthe specialness of this kid.
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For a first album,
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it seemed like very "elder statesman"
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at such a young age.
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And I think that’s what shocked
the shit out of people.
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The fact that he was from Queens
was even more like:
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“Yeah, motherfucker!
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We’re running New York right now.
We got this!”
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♪ What's up kid?I know shit is rough doing your bid ♪
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♪ When the cops cameYou should've slid to my crib ♪
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♪ Fuck it blackNo time for looking back, it's done ♪
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♪ Plus congratulationsYou know you got a son ♪
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[Miss Info] Illmatic was so powerful.
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Because it was as if you were dropped
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into the middle of a placeyou could never go yourself
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and you could just see things, but through
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the most clear, sharp lens.
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[Shad] Hmm.
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That’s how I felt the very first time
I listened to the album.
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Like, I put the album into a Walkman.
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I stood on a subway platform and
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missed probably 20 trains.
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["One Love" by Nas and Q-Tip playing]
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I don't really remember
getting home that day.
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♪ So stay civilized, time fliesThough incarcerated your mind (dies) ♪
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♪ I hate it when your moms criesIt kinda wants to make me murder ♪
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♪ For real-a I've even got a maskAnd gloves to bust slugs for one love ♪
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[Q-Tip] Illmatic is...
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right there with What’s Going On,
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Marvin Gaye.
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Like it’s that good.
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Like, it really is. It’s a masterpiece.
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I don’t really throw
that word around and shit,
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but it’s a masterpiece. Yeah.
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♪ One love, one love ♪
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♪ One love ♪
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♪ One love, one love, one love ♪
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[Shad] For a lot of hip-hop heads,Nas’ Illmatic remains the perfect album.
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One genius MC backedby the game's top producers.
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[seagull squawks, boat horn blares]
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[Shad] But in New York’s longforgotten borough of Staten Island,
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they flipped the formula.
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One genius producerbacked by an army of lyrical assassins.
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[Shad] I want to startwith Staten Island, growing up.
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Um, what it was like
coming from Staten Island?
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It was like the Forgotten Borough.
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You know, you got to takea ferry that, literally,
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you’re going to be on the boatfor 30 minutes.
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And we always felt like
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nobody cared about Staten Island.
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So we already had that mentality like,
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"You don’t give a fuck about my borough."
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We had that complex of not being
respected in New York City.
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You know, the majority of usall grew up together.
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I grew up with RZA.
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We used to go to school together as kids.
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Genius, RZA and Dirty, they’re cousins.
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So, it was already there like that.
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Genius was like, he was the illest rapper
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and Dirt used to beatbox too.
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[beatboxing]
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♪ Check it out.When i begin a rap, a hip-hop tune ♪
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♪The crowd reacts immediatelyIf not soon ♪
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♪ I’m black and proud, I move the crowd ♪
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♪ I rage from hellYo, my lyrics solo rock the bell ♪
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[Ghostface Killah] RZA was alreadymaking tapes up in Park Hill.
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The Hill had the best MCs.
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That’s Method Man,Raekwon, they had U-God.
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They had Inspectah Deck.
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[Shad] So, you’re all aware of each other.
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[Ghostface Killah] We battled each other.
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Everybody did that at one time before.
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[Method Man] The first dudethat I wrote my first rhyme with
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was Raekwon Da Chef…
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That day when Rae
was like, "Yo, you smoke?"
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And I lied and said, "Yeah."
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[laughs]
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[Method Man laughs]
And we went up in the staircase.
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It would be a sessionwhere it could start with two dudes.
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They start "cooking", meaning rhyming.
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And next thing you know
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those three guys would turninto like six, seven dudes...
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and these dudes blew my mind
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and after being in there
with these dudes for a few weeks
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and listening to this shit,
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I wrote my first rhyme with Rae,
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and that was it.
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I always wrote rhymesto impress these dudes
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in that staircase area,
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and I still write like that.
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I just want to impress my dudes.
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Fuck everybody else.
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[Raekwon] RZA had the idea.
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He was like,"Yo, I’m trying to do a record."
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I’m only calling specific dudes.
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RZA seen the special powers
in each one of us
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to say,
"Yo, you’re all fucking different."
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00:20:59,745 --> 00:21:01,038
and I remember him just saying,
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"Yo, I’m going to book the studio,
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and we need 100 dollars
from each individual
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to pay for the studio time." [laughs]
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So, we were like, "Damn, yo.
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Where the fuck can we get 100 dollars?
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00:21:11,548 --> 00:21:13,717
What the fuck?
I've got to put 100 dollars up?
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I was at my wits end.
456
00:21:15,302 --> 00:21:17,346
No place to go, selling drugs...
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That shit was getting to the point
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where motherfuckers was dying
every fucking week.
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So, I’m on my way to the tree spot.
RZA stopped me.
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And I remember him saying something about,
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"You know, fuck that street shit.
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Give me this much of your time..."
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I think it was a year,
or some shit like that.
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"And if this shit don’t work out,
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you can go back
to doing what you was doing."
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I was fucking sold.
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[Method Man] Next thing I know,dudes was in the studio.
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Rae, you ready?
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Yo Deck, tell Rae to get his phones on
and let’s do this.
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-[Rae] Yo.
-Can you hear it now?
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I can hear it but turn it up.
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[Ghostface Killah]
I was just glad to be n the team.
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The energy at that time
and looking at my brothers,
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and knowing that "Damn, I’m surrounded
by a team of superheroes right here."
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We come in like,
"We’re gonna crush these motherfuckers."
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The Wu is the way.
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The Tang, that's the slang in there.
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It’s the sword style.
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They said it's sharp
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We'll make it to the next war.
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We're going to rock
the fucking rap industry.
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We're going to fuck everybody up.
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So, just watch your step, kid,
484
00:22:20,409 --> 00:22:22,035
and protect your fucking neck.
485
00:22:23,203 --> 00:22:25,497
♪ I smoke on the micLike smokin' Joe Frazier ♪
486
00:22:25,705 --> 00:22:28,083
♪ The Hell-Raiser,Raisin' hell with the flavor ♪
487
00:22:28,166 --> 00:22:30,335
♪ Terrorize the jamLike troops in Pakistan ♪
488
00:22:30,502 --> 00:22:33,046
♪ Swingin' through your townLike your neighborhood Spider-Man ♪
489
00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:35,424
[Raekwon] On the record, Protect Ya Neck,
490
00:22:35,507 --> 00:22:37,551
the main thing was to make sure
491
00:22:37,634 --> 00:22:40,137
that we represent fucking Staten Island.
492
00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:42,347
We was getting fed up with the fact
493
00:22:42,431 --> 00:22:44,808
of hearing Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx...
494
00:22:44,975 --> 00:22:49,146
They've got to know Staten Island
is real live man.
495
00:22:49,396 --> 00:22:52,524
The borough's got to be fucking heardone way or another.
496
00:22:52,607 --> 00:22:54,901
♪ Hit you with sixteen shotsAnd more I got ♪
497
00:22:54,985 --> 00:22:57,028
♪ Going to war with the melting pot hot ♪
498
00:22:57,154 --> 00:22:59,322
♪It's the method man, for sure Mr. Meth ♪
499
00:22:59,406 --> 00:23:01,408
♪ Moving on your left, ah! ♪
500
00:23:01,491 --> 00:23:04,744
♪ And set it off, get it off,Let it off like a gat ♪
501
00:23:04,828 --> 00:23:06,496
♪I wanna break through, cock me back ♪
502
00:23:07,205 --> 00:23:09,166
[Bonz Malone]
RZA came to see me at Island,
503
00:23:09,249 --> 00:23:12,794
and was telling us: “Yeah, we gotthis group. It’s called Wu-Tang.
504
00:23:12,878 --> 00:23:16,006
We’re from Shaolin, Staten Island.
We call it Shaolin,”
505
00:23:16,089 --> 00:23:19,301
and he played Protect Ya Neckand I’m like,
506
00:23:19,384 --> 00:23:22,554
"Nine dudes? [laughs]
You've got to be crazy."
507
00:23:22,804 --> 00:23:24,222
Man, I laughed so hard.
508
00:23:24,306 --> 00:23:27,225
I took the tape out,I said, "Take this, man.
509
00:23:27,309 --> 00:23:29,311
Nobody’s going to understand this shit."
510
00:23:29,561 --> 00:23:32,647
[laughing] Yo...
511
00:23:32,731 --> 00:23:34,649
Yo... what a mistake that was.
512
00:23:37,777 --> 00:23:39,529
[Bobbito] December 1992...
513
00:23:39,613 --> 00:23:41,364
I’m up in the studio by myself,
514
00:23:41,448 --> 00:23:45,327
the premier hip-hop radio program
of the world at the time.
515
00:23:45,911 --> 00:23:47,746
Five people knock on the studio door.
516
00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:51,291
I’m thinking like: “How the F
did they get into the studio?”
517
00:23:51,374 --> 00:23:53,043
The front door to the building was locked
518
00:23:53,126 --> 00:23:54,878
and the front door to the studio
was locked.
519
00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:58,089
So that means they had to have
gotten through two locked doors.
520
00:23:58,173 --> 00:24:00,383
They’re like, “Yo, Money, play this.”Trying to strong arm me.
521
00:24:00,467 --> 00:24:02,761
“Yo, yo, Bobbito. Play it right now, son.”
522
00:24:02,844 --> 00:24:05,931
I’m like… “Y'all gotta chill.
523
00:24:06,306 --> 00:24:08,391
I’m about to get kicked off the air
for even having you all here.
524
00:24:08,475 --> 00:24:11,311
You all got to be out.”
So, I play the record.
525
00:24:13,355 --> 00:24:14,481
Woo-ha!
526
00:24:14,564 --> 00:24:16,233
You know... Karate in the beginning.
527
00:24:16,316 --> 00:24:18,235
I’m like, "What the, what is a Wu-Tang?"
528
00:24:18,318 --> 00:24:19,611
What the fuck is a Wu-Tang?
529
00:24:20,862 --> 00:24:21,821
But it was cool because
530
00:24:21,905 --> 00:24:25,408
that record was as rawas you could ever think.
531
00:24:25,492 --> 00:24:26,993
And it was a hit.
532
00:24:27,285 --> 00:24:29,621
It wasn’t just a hit, It was a smash.
533
00:24:29,704 --> 00:24:31,748
♪ Feelin' mad hostile,Ran the apostle ♪
534
00:24:31,831 --> 00:24:34,334
♪ Flowin' like ChristWhen I speaks the gospel ♪
535
00:24:34,417 --> 00:24:36,795
♪ Stroll with the holy rollThen attack the globe ♪
536
00:24:36,878 --> 00:24:38,797
♪ With the BuckusStyle the Ruckus ♪
537
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,217
[Mimi Valdes] Protect Ya Neck was like,a moment that like...
538
00:24:42,634 --> 00:24:44,261
time stopped in New York.
539
00:24:44,844 --> 00:24:46,888
You could not explain that record.
540
00:24:46,972 --> 00:24:48,223
You just have to hear it,
541
00:24:48,306 --> 00:24:51,017
and you're just like,
"Wow, this is... different."
542
00:24:51,226 --> 00:24:55,063
[Mister Cee]
It was just so grimy and just so raw.
543
00:24:55,188 --> 00:24:57,399
There’s no chorus. There’s no hook.
544
00:24:57,482 --> 00:24:58,650
There’s no, there’s just...
545
00:24:59,067 --> 00:25:00,277
"First things first man…"
546
00:25:00,402 --> 00:25:02,821
♪ With the worstI'll be stickin' pins in your head ♪
547
00:25:02,904 --> 00:25:04,739
♪Like a fuckin’ nurse, I'll attack ♪
548
00:25:04,823 --> 00:25:06,825
♪ Any nigga who's slack in his mack ♪
549
00:25:06,992 --> 00:25:08,994
♪ Come fully packedWith a fat rugged stack ♪
550
00:25:09,077 --> 00:25:11,830
[Angie Martinez] I just remember
being like, "There’s so many of them.
551
00:25:12,455 --> 00:25:13,540
What is this?"
552
00:25:14,583 --> 00:25:17,627
They just sounded like something
new and exciting
553
00:25:17,711 --> 00:25:19,713
and hard and dark.
554
00:25:19,963 --> 00:25:22,424
♪ To my crew with the sue ♪
555
00:25:22,841 --> 00:25:24,634
[Steve Rifkind]
I never felt energy in my life
556
00:25:24,718 --> 00:25:26,636
off a cassette that was dubbed,
557
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,597
you know,like three or four different times.
558
00:25:29,055 --> 00:25:31,016
And I remember just listening to it
559
00:25:31,099 --> 00:25:32,601
over and over and over again.
560
00:25:32,684 --> 00:25:35,520
If anybody is a true hip-hop fan,
561
00:25:35,812 --> 00:25:38,356
it’s going to feel this energylike there’s no tomorrow.
562
00:25:38,773 --> 00:25:40,609
[Jeff “Chairman” Mao]They just sounded hungry.
563
00:25:40,692 --> 00:25:42,485
And sonically, it’s unlike anything else.
564
00:25:42,569 --> 00:25:45,071
RZA’s producing records
where the loop is off.
565
00:25:45,155 --> 00:25:46,990
It was kind of like all of these things
566
00:25:47,073 --> 00:25:49,284
that had mystique to them coming together.
567
00:25:49,367 --> 00:25:50,452
I know the sound.
568
00:25:50,535 --> 00:25:53,622
Sound travels at 1120 feet per second.
569
00:25:53,997 --> 00:25:57,709
I matched the sound. For my beats is foul.
570
00:25:58,001 --> 00:25:59,169
[man laughs]
571
00:25:59,252 --> 00:26:02,505
[mixed samples playing]
572
00:26:13,892 --> 00:26:15,769
[Shad] RZA’s production on that album,
573
00:26:15,852 --> 00:26:18,605
what was different aboutwhat he was bringing at that time?
574
00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:20,940
[Raekwon] He already had a certain sound.
575
00:26:21,024 --> 00:26:24,486
It was slow and dreary
576
00:26:24,569 --> 00:26:26,196
and he was able to do what he do
577
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,740
to make it sound new and fresh.
578
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,410
And all he needed was some guys
to understand that sound
579
00:26:32,494 --> 00:26:35,080
and we all were able to relate.
580
00:26:38,416 --> 00:26:41,336
♪ I grew up on the crime side,The New York Times side ♪
581
00:26:41,419 --> 00:26:43,088
♪ Stayin' alive was no jive ♪
582
00:26:43,171 --> 00:26:46,007
♪ Had secondhands,Mom's bounced on old man ♪
583
00:26:46,091 --> 00:26:48,134
♪ So then we moved to Shaolin ♪
584
00:26:48,218 --> 00:26:50,720
♪ A young youthYo rockin' the gold tooth ♪
585
00:26:50,804 --> 00:26:51,638
♪ Yo goose ♪
586
00:26:51,721 --> 00:26:54,099
♪ Only way I be gettin'The g off was drug loot ♪
587
00:26:54,182 --> 00:26:56,017
♪ And let's start it like this, son ♪
588
00:26:56,101 --> 00:26:58,019
♪ Rollin' with this one and that one ♪
589
00:26:58,103 --> 00:26:59,562
♪ Pullin' out gats for fun ♪
590
00:26:59,646 --> 00:27:02,649
♪ But it was just a dreamFor the teen who was a fiend ♪
591
00:27:02,732 --> 00:27:04,943
♪ Started smokin' woolas at 16 ♪
592
00:27:05,527 --> 00:27:09,322
[DJ Premier] 36 Chambers.
Such and incredible record, man.
593
00:27:09,406 --> 00:27:12,867
RZA created a new era of sound
for New York.
594
00:27:13,284 --> 00:27:16,830
Things would be out of key
and just not the norm.
595
00:27:16,913 --> 00:27:19,624
Just dirt. Nothing’s clean.
596
00:27:20,917 --> 00:27:23,336
[Sophia Chang]
He created this sound that said,
597
00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:24,796
This is my New York City."
598
00:27:24,879 --> 00:27:26,798
and I’m going to lift up the hood,
599
00:27:26,881 --> 00:27:29,884
and you get to see
how your car really runs,
600
00:27:29,968 --> 00:27:32,554
and that shit is dirty and it’s smelly,
601
00:27:32,637 --> 00:27:34,639
and it’s hot and it’s dangerous.
602
00:27:35,306 --> 00:27:37,475
♪ Cash rules everything around me ♪
603
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,437
♪ C.R.E.A.M., get the moneyDollar dollar bill, y'all ♪
604
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,148
♪ It's been twenty-two long hard yearsI'm still strugglin' ♪
605
00:27:43,231 --> 00:27:46,109
♪ Survival got me buggin'But I'm alive on arrival ♪
606
00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,445
[Kid Capri] What made them so special
607
00:27:48,528 --> 00:27:50,572
was these different MCswith these different styles,
608
00:27:50,655 --> 00:27:52,657
that could rhyme on any type of beatand make it hot.
609
00:27:52,741 --> 00:27:54,242
And they were all skillful.
610
00:27:54,325 --> 00:27:56,703
All of them had their own
individual style.
611
00:27:56,786 --> 00:27:58,705
You had Method’s flamboyant ass.
612
00:27:58,788 --> 00:28:01,040
Then you had Ol’ Dirty
with his crazy lookin’ self.
613
00:28:01,666 --> 00:28:03,460
Everybody had an identity.
614
00:28:03,793 --> 00:28:07,255
That's why they were all able to do
their own separate deals the way they did.
615
00:28:08,548 --> 00:28:10,800
[Bonz Malone]
They signed as a group to Loud,
616
00:28:11,843 --> 00:28:15,722
and then they gotindividual deals at other labels.
617
00:28:16,222 --> 00:28:18,308
Man, that’s some cartel shit.
618
00:28:18,391 --> 00:28:20,602
You ain’t ever going to see that again.
Never.
619
00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:23,813
♪ Cash rules everything around meC.R.E.A.M. get the money ♪
620
00:28:24,272 --> 00:28:26,816
[Ghostface Killah] There’s nevergonna be nothing like what we did.
621
00:28:27,525 --> 00:28:30,028
Ain’t another nine-man team coming in.
622
00:28:31,154 --> 00:28:33,198
Ain’t nobody in rap
like this W right here.
623
00:28:33,281 --> 00:28:35,825
Dirt always said "Yo,
Wu-Tang is for the children.
624
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:37,243
It’s for the babies.
625
00:28:37,327 --> 00:28:39,913
This is for the human families
of the planet Earth right here."
626
00:28:39,996 --> 00:28:42,582
♪Dollar, dollar bill y'all ♪
627
00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:44,793
♪ Yeah ♪
628
00:28:47,295 --> 00:28:48,880
[car whooshes by]
629
00:28:52,217 --> 00:28:55,470
[Shad] The Wu and Nas were partof a larger wave of hardcore hip-hop
630
00:28:55,553 --> 00:28:57,263
that would dominate '90s New York.
631
00:28:58,807 --> 00:29:01,518
Alongside legendary crewslike the Boot Camp Clik,
632
00:29:01,726 --> 00:29:05,814
Mobb Deep, Gang Starr Foundation and DITC,
633
00:29:05,897 --> 00:29:08,942
they formed the pantheonof New York’s so-called Boom Bap era.
634
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:12,278
But as lauded as these acts were,
635
00:29:12,612 --> 00:29:15,365
their popularity was mostlyan East Coast phenomenon.
636
00:29:15,698 --> 00:29:18,785
New York needed something elseto grab the nation’s attention.
637
00:29:19,953 --> 00:29:22,288
They needed something "big."
638
00:29:25,083 --> 00:29:28,086
["Gimme the Loot"
by The Notorious B.I.G. playing]
639
00:29:35,301 --> 00:29:37,387
[Shad] I want to startwith when you first met B.I.G.
640
00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:39,305
-at like six or seven years old.
-[Lil Cease] Yeah.
641
00:29:39,389 --> 00:29:41,599
-[Shad] What do you remember?
-We grew up on the same block.
642
00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:43,852
I just remember him
giving me money all the time,
643
00:29:43,935 --> 00:29:46,771
every time I used to walk to school
and I had to walk past Fulton Street,
644
00:29:46,855 --> 00:29:48,857
he would be out there hustling,doing what he do.
645
00:29:48,940 --> 00:29:52,151
And he would just always,he’s always just took a liking to me
646
00:29:52,235 --> 00:29:54,612
Always like: “Yo, what’s up?What’s going on? You good?”
647
00:29:54,946 --> 00:29:57,115
He’d give me two or three dollarsto buy some candy.
648
00:29:57,782 --> 00:30:00,869
Once I got old enough to go sit outon Fulton Street, 11, 12 years old,
649
00:30:00,952 --> 00:30:02,912
that's when I got more close to him,
you know?
650
00:30:02,996 --> 00:30:04,455
We’d just sit outside,
651
00:30:04,539 --> 00:30:07,458
smoke weed, drink and we always
had a box with us, a radio
652
00:30:07,542 --> 00:30:09,460
and we was always playing just albums.
653
00:30:09,878 --> 00:30:11,421
[Shad] Do you remember the first time
you heard him rap?
654
00:30:11,504 --> 00:30:13,256
Yeah, we was at this club.
655
00:30:13,339 --> 00:30:16,009
We had this little spot called
The Paul Robeson Theater out here.
656
00:30:16,593 --> 00:30:19,470
One day B.I.G. actually got on the micand did a freestyle there.
657
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:21,681
And like, you know, he did this one line
658
00:30:21,931 --> 00:30:24,767
where he said, “You think about
battling me from where,
659
00:30:25,018 --> 00:30:26,728
Attica?" That's a jail out here.
660
00:30:26,811 --> 00:30:29,522
The whole crowd went crazy
and jumping around.
661
00:30:29,606 --> 00:30:31,566
It was nuts.
That's when I was like, "Okay...
662
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,152
B.I.G. is going to be something serious."
Know what I mean?
663
00:30:34,235 --> 00:30:36,487
♪ Yes, it's me, the B.I.G. ♪
664
00:30:36,571 --> 00:30:38,948
♪ Competition ripper ever since 13 ♪
665
00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:41,242
♪ Used to steal clothesI was considered a thief ♪
666
00:30:41,326 --> 00:30:43,870
♪ Until I started hustlin'On Fulton Street ♪
667
00:30:43,953 --> 00:30:46,205
♪ Makin' lootKnockin' boots on the regular ♪
668
00:30:46,289 --> 00:30:48,583
♪ Pass the microphoneI'm the perfect competitor ♪
669
00:30:48,666 --> 00:30:50,960
♪ Jewels and all thatMy clothes is all that ♪
670
00:30:51,044 --> 00:30:53,630
♪ Chumps steppin' to me,That's where they took a fall at ♪
671
00:30:55,506 --> 00:30:59,344
[Lil' Kim] The first time I met Biggie,it was on Fulton Street.
672
00:30:59,427 --> 00:31:00,595
I was coming home from work,
673
00:31:00,678 --> 00:31:04,057
I had on, you know, heels.
674
00:31:04,515 --> 00:31:06,684
I had on like a leather motorcycle jacket.
675
00:31:06,768 --> 00:31:08,728
He was like,
“I’m fucking with you, shorty”.
676
00:31:08,978 --> 00:31:10,772
I was like, “Okay...
677
00:31:11,105 --> 00:31:13,024
Let’s roll Big Papa.”
678
00:31:13,107 --> 00:31:16,110
When I first heard Biggie rhyme,
679
00:31:16,194 --> 00:31:19,530
immediately I felt the energycoming from his whole body.
680
00:31:20,198 --> 00:31:22,075
It captivates you.
681
00:31:22,158 --> 00:31:24,410
♪ And I love yaCause you're a sweet bitch ♪
682
00:31:24,535 --> 00:31:26,746
♪ A crazy crabThat might make my dick itch ♪
683
00:31:26,871 --> 00:31:29,666
♪ I flow looser than LutherWords ya get used ta ♪
684
00:31:29,749 --> 00:31:31,459
♪ B.I.G. is a born trooper ♪
685
00:31:31,542 --> 00:31:34,420
♪ Like ice cream I scoop yaMy music you wanna get loose ta ♪
686
00:31:34,504 --> 00:31:36,339
♪ Stay pimp, and I'm not a booster ♪
687
00:31:36,422 --> 00:31:38,675
♪ So what'cha got to say?This mackin' word is bond ♪
688
00:31:38,758 --> 00:31:41,344
♪ There's no other assumptionI got it going on ♪
689
00:31:42,178 --> 00:31:44,847
[50 Grand] First time I met Big,I was on Bedford and Quincy.
690
00:31:44,931 --> 00:31:46,224
That’s where I hustled at.
691
00:31:46,307 --> 00:31:48,851
I met him when he came on my end of town.
692
00:31:49,102 --> 00:31:52,355
First thing he said was, "Yo,
I know you know a lot of people.
693
00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:54,107
I want you to be my DJ."
694
00:31:54,190 --> 00:31:57,193
When I heard him spit, that was crazy.
695
00:31:58,027 --> 00:32:00,029
So, I took him to the basement.
696
00:32:00,321 --> 00:32:02,031
I had my equipment down there.
697
00:32:02,115 --> 00:32:03,992
-[Shad] Mm-hmm.-No fancy shit.
698
00:32:04,701 --> 00:32:07,954
We had the basement surroundedby Old English bottles.
699
00:32:09,497 --> 00:32:11,916
We cut four demos that same day.
700
00:32:12,792 --> 00:32:15,003
He had the beat. He had the hooks...
701
00:32:15,336 --> 00:32:16,295
and all that.
702
00:32:16,379 --> 00:32:19,757
-It was like it was all written.
-Yes, he knew what he wanted.
703
00:32:19,841 --> 00:32:21,509
Went outside, let my friends hear it.
704
00:32:21,592 --> 00:32:23,302
Everybody bobbing their head to it.
705
00:32:23,386 --> 00:32:24,887
So I said: “I got something."
706
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:28,641
Me and Mister Cee,we go way back from high school.
707
00:32:28,808 --> 00:32:30,727
He was Big Daddy Kane’s DJ.
708
00:32:30,935 --> 00:32:31,978
I hunted Cee down.
709
00:32:32,061 --> 00:32:34,188
I said, "I got something
you need to hear."
710
00:32:34,522 --> 00:32:36,524
50 Grand wanted me to hear this demo.
711
00:32:36,607 --> 00:32:39,027
Yo, I got this guy named B.I.G.
from Fulton Street.
712
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:41,988
I said, "Yo, I’m going on tour with Kane.
I can’t listen to it right now.
713
00:32:42,071 --> 00:32:44,866
When I come back,
I’ll listen to the tape."
714
00:32:45,491 --> 00:32:47,618
The night that I came back from tour,
715
00:32:48,202 --> 00:32:50,163
50 Grand was in front of my house
waiting for me.
716
00:32:51,330 --> 00:32:52,498
So, I listened to the tape.
717
00:32:52,582 --> 00:32:55,001
For me, it was like hearing
Big Daddy Kane all over again.
718
00:32:55,084 --> 00:32:57,879
The cadence, the rhyme pattern,
how Biggies was rapping.
719
00:32:58,004 --> 00:33:00,798
♪ Microphone murderMass mayhem maker ♪
720
00:33:00,882 --> 00:33:03,009
♪ B.I.G. is on the micCalled the undertaker ♪
721
00:33:03,092 --> 00:33:05,470
♪ Make an appointment.Schedule an interview ♪
722
00:33:05,553 --> 00:33:07,680
♪ Because you knowWhat B.I.G. man’s about to do?
723
00:33:07,764 --> 00:33:10,141
♪ 50 Gran' on the technicAt the right peak ♪
724
00:33:10,224 --> 00:33:12,226
♪ Brothers wanna hearThe words big man speak! ♪
725
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:14,854
♪ The microphone I rip itThe burner got the clip in ♪
726
00:33:14,937 --> 00:33:16,981
-♪ Slammin MCs like Scottie Pippen ♪-♪ Paper! ♪
727
00:33:17,065 --> 00:33:19,108
♪ Flippin on old goldCold as the rhymes you stole ♪
728
00:33:19,317 --> 00:33:21,736
I submitted that demo to Matty C
729
00:33:21,819 --> 00:33:24,655
who was running the Unsigned Hype
730
00:33:24,739 --> 00:33:26,282
with The Source magazine at the time.
731
00:33:26,532 --> 00:33:28,326
Matty listened to itand fell in love with it,
732
00:33:28,409 --> 00:33:30,870
and featured Biggie and 50 Grandin Source Magazine.
733
00:33:32,497 --> 00:33:35,083
Once he gave me the tape,I mean, I loved it.
734
00:33:35,249 --> 00:33:39,212
It gave me a similar chill, of course,
735
00:33:39,295 --> 00:33:40,671
that Big Daddy Kane did.
736
00:33:40,755 --> 00:33:42,590
It was even a bigger voice to me,
you know,
737
00:33:42,673 --> 00:33:45,968
like KRS sized voice...
738
00:33:46,385 --> 00:33:48,096
Big Daddy Kane flow,
739
00:33:48,346 --> 00:33:50,890
and still, like, just this presence
740
00:33:51,224 --> 00:33:54,268
that... I mean I just kept playing it
over and over.
741
00:33:56,479 --> 00:33:58,480
[Shad] B.I.G.’s shout outin The Source Magazine
742
00:33:58,564 --> 00:34:00,357
would catch the attentionof hard hustling,
743
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,776
up and coming A&R.
744
00:34:01,859 --> 00:34:04,237
who was looking for the East Coast savior.
745
00:34:06,489 --> 00:34:09,199
Can you take me back to what
motivated you to sign Biggie?
746
00:34:09,283 --> 00:34:13,703
This is coming off
of really desperation, you know?
747
00:34:13,788 --> 00:34:14,997
I'd just had a child.
748
00:34:15,456 --> 00:34:17,333
I just got fired from Uptown
749
00:34:17,416 --> 00:34:19,252
and I wanted to start my own label.
750
00:34:19,335 --> 00:34:21,337
Things were very, very uncertain.
751
00:34:22,087 --> 00:34:24,090
I wanted to try to do something
752
00:34:24,172 --> 00:34:27,969
that was a reflection of our times,
our culture and our community.
753
00:34:28,386 --> 00:34:32,515
Dre and them were doing their thing.The Chronic was the bar that was set,
754
00:34:32,598 --> 00:34:34,058
but we’re the mecca of hip-hop.
755
00:34:34,558 --> 00:34:36,393
I wanted to tell the Brooklyn story.
756
00:34:36,477 --> 00:34:37,687
To tell the New York story.
757
00:34:39,147 --> 00:34:41,482
[Cheo Coker] Puff tells him,"I've got your check right here.
758
00:34:41,565 --> 00:34:42,900
Come sign. Let’s do this."
759
00:34:42,984 --> 00:34:44,652
B.I.G. told me the story where
760
00:34:44,735 --> 00:34:47,738
he tells the guys in the house
where they’ve been dealing drugs
761
00:34:48,072 --> 00:34:49,782
that, "All right, I’m, I’m out."
762
00:34:49,866 --> 00:34:51,450
He leaves that night,
763
00:34:51,617 --> 00:34:55,079
and the next morning,
that whole house got raided by the cops.
764
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:58,040
He said that after that,
he was 100% committed to hip-hop
765
00:34:58,124 --> 00:34:59,500
and he left the street life behind.
766
00:35:02,170 --> 00:35:06,257
[Puff Daddy I knew that I had an artistthat was really, really special,
767
00:35:06,632 --> 00:35:09,760
but he had this desperationcombined with the hustle,
768
00:35:09,844 --> 00:35:14,098
combined with the brilliant words
and artistry
769
00:35:14,182 --> 00:35:15,766
and the truth from the streets.
770
00:35:16,392 --> 00:35:18,019
And it was hard and direct.
771
00:35:18,603 --> 00:35:21,439
♪ My man inf left a tecAnd a nine at my crib ♪
772
00:35:21,689 --> 00:35:23,774
♪ Turned himself in, he had to do a bid ♪
773
00:35:23,858 --> 00:35:26,235
♪ A one-to-threeHe be home the end of '93 ♪
774
00:35:26,319 --> 00:35:28,613
♪I'm ready to get this paper, GYou with me? ♪
775
00:35:28,696 --> 00:35:31,532
♪ Motherfucking rightMy pocket's looking kind of tight ♪
776
00:35:31,616 --> 00:35:33,326
[Lil' Kim]
B.I.G. was a genius in the studio.
777
00:35:33,409 --> 00:35:35,786
I mean, I used to just love
to watch him work.
778
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:38,581
He was so vivid and colorful
when he wrote his music.
779
00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:42,043
Puffy would make B.I.G. rewrite verses.
780
00:35:42,126 --> 00:35:43,294
BIG would be like: “Oh, okay,
781
00:35:43,377 --> 00:35:46,422
Oh, that wasn’t hard enough for you?
Oh, okay." [chuckles]
782
00:35:46,505 --> 00:35:48,216
Then he would give Puffy
something so hard,
783
00:35:48,299 --> 00:35:52,011
Puffy would be like:
“Dawg. We can’t say that.”
784
00:35:52,094 --> 00:35:53,679
[both laugh]
785
00:35:53,763 --> 00:35:56,015
♪And when I rock her and drop herI'm taking her door knockers ♪
786
00:35:56,098 --> 00:35:58,559
♪ And if she's resistant"Baka! Baka! Baka!" ♪
787
00:35:58,643 --> 00:35:59,769
[Mister Cee] "Gimme The Loot"
788
00:35:59,852 --> 00:36:03,272
represented you know, what New Yorkin the '90s was really about.
789
00:36:04,148 --> 00:36:06,984
Cats was on the corner,really waiting for you to come home
790
00:36:07,068 --> 00:36:08,319
to see if they wanted to get you.
791
00:36:08,402 --> 00:36:09,904
If you were looking right,
you would get got.
792
00:36:09,987 --> 00:36:11,405
It’s real, you know?
793
00:36:11,489 --> 00:36:15,034
They was robbing babies' mothers
for the "Number One Mom" pendant. [laughs]
794
00:36:15,117 --> 00:36:17,536
-♪ Gimme the loot, gimme the loot ♪-♪ I'm a bad, bad ♪
795
00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:20,122
-♪ Gimme the loot, gimme the loot ♪-♪ I'm a bad, bad ♪
796
00:36:20,206 --> 00:36:21,749
♪ Gimme the loot, gimme the loot ♪
797
00:36:23,125 --> 00:36:25,920
[Andre Harrell] It was raw.It was in your face. It was dangerous.
798
00:36:26,337 --> 00:36:30,132
B.I.G. came with the answer
to the severe streets of LA,
799
00:36:30,258 --> 00:36:31,968
but New York style, Brooklyn style.
800
00:36:33,010 --> 00:36:36,180
The way Puff groomed B.I.G.was take a freestyle artist
801
00:36:36,514 --> 00:36:39,016
and to tell that artist,"You've got to write hooks."
802
00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:41,602
And thenhe didn’t just have B.I.G. street.
803
00:36:42,019 --> 00:36:44,021
Puff started using good R&B samples
804
00:36:44,105 --> 00:36:45,690
and made B.I.G. more commercial.
805
00:36:45,773 --> 00:36:49,235
♪ It was all a dreamI used to read Word Up Magazine ♪
806
00:36:49,318 --> 00:36:51,737
♪ Salt'n'Pepa and Heavy DUp in the limousine ♪
807
00:36:51,821 --> 00:36:53,572
♪ Hangin' pictures on my wall ♪
808
00:36:53,864 --> 00:36:56,617
♪ Every Saturday rap attackMr. Magic, Marley Marl ♪
809
00:36:56,701 --> 00:36:58,744
♪ I let my tape rock 'til my tape pop ♪
810
00:36:58,828 --> 00:37:01,706
♪ Smokin' weed and bamboo,Sippin' on private stock ♪
811
00:37:01,789 --> 00:37:04,834
♪ Way back, when I hadThe red and black Lumberjack ♪
812
00:37:04,917 --> 00:37:05,918
♪ With the hat to match ♪
813
00:37:06,002 --> 00:37:08,254
[Lord Finesse]
That’s where the transition began.
814
00:37:08,963 --> 00:37:11,257
Biggie did it in a waywhere you wasn’t mad.
815
00:37:11,966 --> 00:37:14,302
You know, we hardcore hip-hop,
816
00:37:14,385 --> 00:37:16,470
"Yo, what the fuck
with this commercial shit?"
817
00:37:16,554 --> 00:37:18,973
But he could do it
and you would not be mad.
818
00:37:19,056 --> 00:37:20,766
You’d be like, "That shit is hot."
819
00:37:21,350 --> 00:37:26,105
♪ 'Cause you're the only oneI'll give you good and plenty ♪
820
00:37:26,188 --> 00:37:28,357
♪ Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis ♪
821
00:37:28,441 --> 00:37:31,068
♪ When I was dead brokeMan, I couldn't picture this ♪
822
00:37:31,152 --> 00:37:33,529
♪ 50 inch screenMoney green leather sofa ♪
823
00:37:33,612 --> 00:37:35,948
♪ Got two rides,A limousine with a chauffeur ♪
824
00:37:36,032 --> 00:37:38,409
♪ Phone bill about two G's flat ♪
825
00:37:38,492 --> 00:37:40,578
♪ No need to worryMy accountant handles that ♪
826
00:37:41,037 --> 00:37:42,997
♪ And my whole crew is loungin' ♪
827
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,083
♪ Celebratin' every dayNo more public housin' ♪
828
00:37:46,542 --> 00:37:49,503
[Lil' Cease]
B.I.G. just really shifted the energy.
829
00:37:49,587 --> 00:37:51,047
You still have people doing their thing.
830
00:37:51,130 --> 00:37:53,132
Nas was killing with Illmatic,you know what I mean?
831
00:37:53,215 --> 00:37:56,469
We had Wu. We had artists
that was really putting work in
832
00:37:56,552 --> 00:37:58,721
but no rapper had the guys and the girls.
833
00:37:58,804 --> 00:38:02,016
Either you were just straight Street,
or you were just straight R&B,
834
00:38:02,099 --> 00:38:03,392
or you were just straight Soul.
835
00:38:03,476 --> 00:38:05,436
BIG was both and both loved him.
836
00:38:07,605 --> 00:38:10,941
♪ First thing firstI, Poppa, freaks all the honeys ♪
837
00:38:11,025 --> 00:38:13,944
♪ Dummies, playboy bunniesThose wanting money ♪
838
00:38:14,028 --> 00:38:15,988
♪ Those the ones I like'Cause they don’t get Nathan ♪
839
00:38:16,072 --> 00:38:19,241
♪ But penetrationUnless it smells like sanitation ♪
840
00:38:19,325 --> 00:38:21,285
♪ Garbage, I turn like doorknobs ♪
841
00:38:21,369 --> 00:38:23,996
♪ Heart throb neverBlack and ugly as ever ♪
842
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,373
♪ However, I stay... ♪
843
00:38:25,456 --> 00:38:27,875
[Kid Capri] You got this big dudethat ain’t super attractive,
844
00:38:27,958 --> 00:38:29,960
talking that fly shit out of his mouth.
845
00:38:30,544 --> 00:38:33,214
With Biggie, it was,
"I’m big, black, ugly and fat."
846
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:34,423
[laughs]
847
00:38:34,507 --> 00:38:37,551
But he was sexy to the women. Loved him.
848
00:38:37,635 --> 00:38:40,096
♪ From the backI get deeper and deeper ♪
849
00:38:40,179 --> 00:38:43,557
♪ Help you reach the climaxThat your man can’t make ♪
850
00:38:43,641 --> 00:38:45,434
♪ Call himTell him you’ll be home real late ♪
851
00:38:45,518 --> 00:38:49,105
-♪ Now sing the break ♪-♪ Baby, here I am ♪
852
00:38:49,188 --> 00:38:51,607
♪I got the good love, girlYou didn’t know? ♪
853
00:38:51,774 --> 00:38:54,360
♪ All I need is one... ♪
854
00:38:54,443 --> 00:38:56,695
[Shad] What was it like in Brooklyn
when those records came out?
855
00:38:56,779 --> 00:38:58,823
We was... People was like, "What?"
856
00:38:58,906 --> 00:39:00,991
Dude, they never imagined him rapping
857
00:39:01,075 --> 00:39:04,286
over R&B songs, but was gangster.
858
00:39:04,703 --> 00:39:06,705
He would say something, I mean gangster.
859
00:39:08,416 --> 00:39:10,418
Once you put everything together,
860
00:39:10,793 --> 00:39:12,002
the look, the voice...
861
00:39:12,086 --> 00:39:13,504
It made perfect sense.
862
00:39:13,587 --> 00:39:16,799
And it went well together.
It was, it was so dope.
863
00:39:17,425 --> 00:39:19,427
He made gangster rap look beautiful.
864
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:21,554
♪ As I laid down lawsLike Allen Carpet ♪
865
00:39:21,637 --> 00:39:24,473
♪ Stop itIf you think they gonna make profit ♪
866
00:39:24,557 --> 00:39:27,226
♪ Don’t see my onesGon' see my guns, get it? ♪
867
00:39:27,309 --> 00:39:29,895
♪ Now tell your friends Poppa hit itThen split it ♪
868
00:39:29,979 --> 00:39:32,982
♪ In two as I flowWith the junior M.A.F.I.A. ♪
869
00:39:33,065 --> 00:39:34,942
♪I don’t know what the hellIs stopping ya ♪
870
00:39:35,025 --> 00:39:37,945
♪ I’m clocking yaVersace shades watching ya ♪
871
00:39:38,028 --> 00:39:40,156
♪ Once ya grin I’m in, games begins ♪
872
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,533
♪ First I talk about how I dress in this ♪
873
00:39:42,616 --> 00:39:45,369
♪ Diamond necklaces, stretch Lexuses… ♪
874
00:39:45,453 --> 00:39:47,663
[Cheo Coker]
The importance of Ready to Die
875
00:39:47,746 --> 00:39:49,665
was that Biggie was able to
876
00:39:49,748 --> 00:39:51,792
basically make
an East Coast gangster record.
877
00:39:52,168 --> 00:39:54,044
but make it in a way
that was uniquely New York,
878
00:39:54,128 --> 00:39:55,254
that was uniquely Brooklyn.
879
00:39:55,337 --> 00:39:57,798
Can everybody here
make some noise for B.I.G.
880
00:39:57,882 --> 00:39:59,258
for bringing it back to the East.
881
00:39:59,341 --> 00:40:00,551
[crowd cheering, whooping]
882
00:40:00,634 --> 00:40:02,094
Bringing it back to the East!
883
00:40:03,137 --> 00:40:04,680
This is a nigga from East Coast.
884
00:40:04,763 --> 00:40:07,308
He ain’t from the West Coast.
He’s from the East Coast.
885
00:40:07,391 --> 00:40:09,977
Give it up for this nigga right here,
straight from Brooklyn.
886
00:40:12,813 --> 00:40:14,315
[Puff Daddy] When Ready to Die dropped,
887
00:40:14,398 --> 00:40:16,609
it was something
that really shook hip-hop.
888
00:40:16,692 --> 00:40:18,777
We knew we put out a classic,
889
00:40:18,861 --> 00:40:21,780
and we felt likewe had New York on our backs.
890
00:40:22,156 --> 00:40:23,657
When you put on Ready to Die,
891
00:40:23,741 --> 00:40:25,493
you got transported to Brooklyn,
892
00:40:25,576 --> 00:40:27,244
just like when you put on The Chronic,
893
00:40:27,620 --> 00:40:30,206
you got transported into a lowrider in LA.
894
00:40:31,749 --> 00:40:34,084
We were globally bigwhen this album dropped.
895
00:40:35,044 --> 00:40:37,046
Everything started being clear.
896
00:40:38,422 --> 00:40:40,466
The impossible was about to happen.
897
00:40:40,549 --> 00:40:42,760
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