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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,506 --> 00:00:03,800 ["Hip-Hop" by Dead Prez playing] -♪ Uh, uh ♪ -♪ One, two, one, two ♪ 2 00:00:04,676 --> 00:00:06,178 -♪ Uh ♪ -♪ One, two, one, two ♪ 3 00:00:06,261 --> 00:00:08,263 ♪ Uh, uh ♪ 4 00:00:11,206 --> 00:00:13,708 ♪ One thing 'bout music When it hit you feel no pain ♪ 5 00:00:13,792 --> 00:00:16,836 ♪ White folks says it controls your brain I know better than that, that's game ♪ 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,963 ♪ And we ready for that Two soldiers head of the pack ♪ 7 00:00:19,047 --> 00:00:21,549 ♪ Matter of fact who got the gat? And where my army at? ♪ 8 00:00:21,633 --> 00:00:24,969 -♪ Rather attack and not react ♪ -♪ It's bigger than hip-hop ♪ 9 00:00:25,053 --> 00:00:28,723 ♪ Hip-hop, hip-hop, hip ♪ 10 00:00:28,807 --> 00:00:31,226 ♪ It's bigger than hip-hop ♪ 11 00:00:31,309 --> 00:00:34,062 ♪ Hip-hop, hip-hop ♪ 12 00:00:34,145 --> 00:00:36,981 [record scratch, sirens wailing] 13 00:00:43,613 --> 00:00:44,614 [car whooshes by] 14 00:00:47,242 --> 00:00:50,578 [Shad K.] If you took a snapshot of New York hip-hop in the late '80s, 15 00:00:50,662 --> 00:00:52,038 it would look like this. 16 00:00:52,497 --> 00:00:53,414 Lyrical, 17 00:00:53,957 --> 00:00:56,334 political, and Afrocentric. 18 00:00:57,001 --> 00:00:58,670 But this era would be short-lived. 19 00:01:02,882 --> 00:01:05,009 [Shad] As hip-hop entered the early 90's, 20 00:01:05,093 --> 00:01:07,303 hardcore West Coast rap was running the game, 21 00:01:07,387 --> 00:01:10,473 capturing the nation’s attention and dominating the charts. 22 00:01:11,182 --> 00:01:13,351 For the first time ever, New York City, 23 00:01:13,434 --> 00:01:16,396 the birthplace of hip-hop was in a rut. 24 00:01:20,108 --> 00:01:22,360 [Cheo Coker] The Chronic blows up and all of a sudden, 25 00:01:22,443 --> 00:01:24,904 once Snoop hit, once those records hit, 26 00:01:24,988 --> 00:01:28,199 I mean, it was like, "Commercially, this is passing us by." 27 00:01:28,283 --> 00:01:30,493 Like, "This West Coast sound is taking over everything. 28 00:01:30,577 --> 00:01:33,746 We can’t even get East Coast hip-hop records played on the radio." 29 00:01:34,622 --> 00:01:36,791 [Bonz Malone] We were still struggling to match up 30 00:01:36,875 --> 00:01:38,585 to the music on the West Coast, 31 00:01:38,668 --> 00:01:39,961 so for New York, 32 00:01:40,044 --> 00:01:43,298 it’s the producers that set the tone for the '90s. 33 00:01:44,632 --> 00:01:48,261 [Busta Rhymes] We're some competitive motherfuckers-- Just New York, period. 34 00:01:48,344 --> 00:01:50,597 Everybody wants to be better than the next motherfucker. 35 00:01:50,722 --> 00:01:53,725 So, at the time, it forced you 36 00:01:54,225 --> 00:01:55,894 to become your best self. 37 00:01:57,478 --> 00:02:00,148 [Shad] In the early '90s, behind the scenes 38 00:02:00,230 --> 00:02:02,942 a generation of New York producers were in stealth combat 39 00:02:03,026 --> 00:02:06,154 to become the best beatsmiths in the five Burroughs. 40 00:02:06,613 --> 00:02:09,657 For the producers, the tools of war lay where hip-hop started: 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,409 in the records. 42 00:02:12,493 --> 00:02:16,080 But with the sampling police on them, and a drive to push their sound, 43 00:02:16,164 --> 00:02:18,082 they needed to dig deep into the crates. 44 00:02:18,291 --> 00:02:22,045 And they’d find all the vinyl they'd need to kick off an East Coast rap renaissance 45 00:02:22,128 --> 00:02:24,130 in a dusty old building near Times Square. 46 00:02:24,964 --> 00:02:26,174 The Roosevelt Hotel. 47 00:02:28,509 --> 00:02:30,553 [drum roll] 48 00:02:31,095 --> 00:02:34,515 [Evil Dee] The convention was dope. It would always happen on a Sunday. 49 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:38,144 Q-Tip would show up at my house 5:00 a.m. 50 00:02:38,436 --> 00:02:39,938 and drive straight to the hotel 51 00:02:40,021 --> 00:02:42,190 so we could look over the records before everybody. 52 00:02:42,273 --> 00:02:44,442 And it was like, a handful of people there. 53 00:02:44,525 --> 00:02:45,902 Kid Capri was always there early. 54 00:02:47,153 --> 00:02:48,780 [Kid Capri] Being that it was in the hotel, 55 00:02:48,863 --> 00:02:51,407 I said, "Why don’t I get me a room in the hotel, 56 00:02:51,491 --> 00:02:54,369 come downstairs and get down there at six in the morning." 57 00:02:54,994 --> 00:02:58,122 [Kid Capri] Come in when they’re setting up and that’s when I’ll start. 58 00:03:01,084 --> 00:03:04,003 I’m walking out of there while everybody’s in line coming in. 59 00:03:04,087 --> 00:03:04,963 [ding] 60 00:03:05,046 --> 00:03:06,965 I did this four years straight. 61 00:03:08,466 --> 00:03:10,134 [Jeff “Chairman” Mao] Before the Roosevelt, 62 00:03:10,218 --> 00:03:11,511 there were certainly flea markets 63 00:03:11,594 --> 00:03:13,763 and stores that you would go to dig for records, 64 00:03:13,846 --> 00:03:15,723 but not with the same focus. 65 00:03:15,807 --> 00:03:19,477 Not with the same targeted audience of producers and DJs 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,145 and people in the hip-hop community. 67 00:03:21,729 --> 00:03:24,482 It was amazing walking into that room 68 00:03:25,024 --> 00:03:26,567 and seeing the people who were there. 69 00:03:28,611 --> 00:03:32,407 [Pharoahe Monch] The Large Professor, Buckwild, Q-Tip, 70 00:03:33,074 --> 00:03:34,909 Lord Finesse, Diamond D, 71 00:03:35,326 --> 00:03:36,327 Prince Be, 72 00:03:36,494 --> 00:03:38,579 and so many producers that you’re just like, 73 00:03:38,663 --> 00:03:41,791 "Am I looking at the records or am I looking at the artist?" 74 00:03:42,375 --> 00:03:44,961 It was dope, man. And we looked forward to it. 75 00:03:45,044 --> 00:03:47,964 Not only just for the opportunity to find records 76 00:03:48,047 --> 00:03:51,718 but definitely the camaraderie. 77 00:03:53,469 --> 00:03:56,014 [Shad] What was the vibe like with all those producers there? 78 00:03:56,097 --> 00:03:59,809 -Was it competitive or was it love? -We had mutual respect for each other. 79 00:03:59,892 --> 00:04:03,104 We also had our battle angle with each other. 80 00:04:03,688 --> 00:04:07,649 I had to get the better joints than Q-Tip and than Pete Rock. 81 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:10,737 We all were like that. It was just our hip-hop competition. 82 00:04:10,820 --> 00:04:13,823 I spent a lot of money at the convention. 83 00:04:18,661 --> 00:04:21,247 [Pete Rock] My first time going in there was pretty hectic. 84 00:04:21,331 --> 00:04:23,791 You got cats, you know, looking over your shoulder. 85 00:04:23,875 --> 00:04:27,128 You got people just looking at what you got. 86 00:04:27,378 --> 00:04:29,339 -When it’s time to compete... -[Shad chuckles] 87 00:04:29,422 --> 00:04:32,842 -...you know, it’s an all-out war. -[Shad laughs] 88 00:04:34,802 --> 00:04:37,430 [Q-Tip] You be digging through the bins and they’d be like: "What’s up, man?" 89 00:04:37,513 --> 00:04:39,349 "What's up!" Trying to see what you get. 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,977 Pete Rock would get bullshit records 91 00:04:43,061 --> 00:04:46,606 and be like: “Nah. I sampled off of this.” And be lying and shit like that. 92 00:04:46,814 --> 00:04:48,399 Sorry, Pete, I had to blow up the spot, 93 00:04:48,483 --> 00:04:49,817 but that shit is funny, nigga. 94 00:04:49,901 --> 00:04:51,486 [both laugh] 95 00:04:52,403 --> 00:04:55,740 [Large Professor] You would see a guy looking over in the next guys bin, 96 00:04:55,823 --> 00:04:57,367 or you saw a little elbows. 97 00:04:57,450 --> 00:04:58,910 -It was a lot of politics. -Getting angles. 98 00:04:58,993 --> 00:05:00,620 Yeah, man. It was angles. 99 00:05:00,703 --> 00:05:02,663 It was politics. Yo, you wouldn’t believe. 100 00:05:04,499 --> 00:05:07,126 [Large Professor] The level of records always mattered. 101 00:05:07,210 --> 00:05:08,711 I mean to the average person, 102 00:05:08,795 --> 00:05:10,880 it’s like, "Oh, records..." and all that, 103 00:05:10,963 --> 00:05:15,176 but to us it’s… something big, for real. 104 00:05:15,927 --> 00:05:18,471 [Pharoahe Monch] It was secretive and competitive... 105 00:05:18,888 --> 00:05:20,640 and it was expensive as fuck too. 106 00:05:20,723 --> 00:05:21,891 [Shad laughs] 107 00:05:21,974 --> 00:05:26,104 But you knew that you could possibly find that next record 108 00:05:26,771 --> 00:05:28,398 that could change your career. 109 00:05:30,775 --> 00:05:33,569 [Lord Finesse] That’s what made that era so unique. 110 00:05:33,986 --> 00:05:37,031 The key was to come up with the most obscure loop 111 00:05:37,115 --> 00:05:41,702 and I think the more you become enlightened, 112 00:05:41,786 --> 00:05:43,579 the more you start digging even more. 113 00:05:43,663 --> 00:05:47,375 You want other artists you’ve never heard of. 114 00:05:48,835 --> 00:05:51,546 [Pete Rock] As you dig, you learn about musicians. 115 00:05:52,088 --> 00:05:53,798 We’re always curious about credits 116 00:05:53,881 --> 00:05:55,716 like, "Who’s playing on this album?" 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,927 Then you start looking for certain instruments 118 00:05:58,010 --> 00:05:58,970 like sounds you want. 119 00:05:59,429 --> 00:06:02,306 You know, anything that had excitement. 120 00:06:02,890 --> 00:06:06,310 What were very hunted albums at The Roosevelt? 121 00:06:06,394 --> 00:06:08,563 -I can’t tell you. -[Shad laughs] 122 00:06:08,646 --> 00:06:11,149 I can’t tell you that. 123 00:06:11,649 --> 00:06:14,402 Listen, there’s something on everything. You understand? 124 00:06:14,485 --> 00:06:15,778 It depends on how you hear it 125 00:06:16,404 --> 00:06:18,072 and how you're laying it down with the beat, 126 00:06:18,156 --> 00:06:19,073 you know what I mean? 127 00:06:19,157 --> 00:06:21,409 [jazz trumpet playing] 128 00:06:22,452 --> 00:06:24,996 [Shad] The art of finding the perfect record to sample 129 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:27,457 has a name in hip-hop: "digging." 130 00:06:29,333 --> 00:06:30,960 But digging was only part of the job. 131 00:06:31,878 --> 00:06:33,838 The real skill was turning obscure gems 132 00:06:34,255 --> 00:06:35,923 into head nodding beats. 133 00:06:38,551 --> 00:06:40,595 To do that, you needed a sampler. 134 00:06:40,678 --> 00:06:43,681 And in the early '90s, there was one sampler of choice. 135 00:06:44,682 --> 00:06:46,309 The SP 1200. 136 00:06:46,392 --> 00:06:47,518 ♪ Yeah, so lovely ♪ 137 00:06:47,602 --> 00:06:50,855 ["They Reminisce Over You" by C.L. Smooth and Pete Rock] 138 00:06:56,903 --> 00:06:59,197 [Large Professor] This is definitely a hip-hop staple, man. 139 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:01,657 You brought some records you got from The Roosevelt. 140 00:07:01,741 --> 00:07:04,368 Oh, yeah. Some highly coveted records. 141 00:07:05,786 --> 00:07:07,079 It’s a Gwen McCrae joint. 142 00:07:07,371 --> 00:07:09,332 It’s a record I’ve loved for years. 143 00:07:11,167 --> 00:07:12,335 [music playing] 144 00:07:12,418 --> 00:07:13,794 [click, key shifts up] 145 00:07:15,004 --> 00:07:15,838 [scratch] 146 00:07:16,130 --> 00:07:17,924 [key shifts down] 147 00:07:18,007 --> 00:07:21,969 [warbling, clicks] 148 00:07:22,053 --> 00:07:23,387 You isolate the sound 149 00:07:23,471 --> 00:07:25,264 and now you've taken that one sound 150 00:07:25,348 --> 00:07:26,641 and you can expand it, 151 00:07:26,724 --> 00:07:28,100 coming up with your own thing. 152 00:07:28,184 --> 00:07:31,270 [pitch alternates] 153 00:07:31,354 --> 00:07:32,480 [Shad] Different pitches? 154 00:07:32,563 --> 00:07:33,439 Yeah. 155 00:07:35,024 --> 00:07:36,442 [Large Professor] Throw the drums with it… 156 00:07:36,526 --> 00:07:37,610 Hell, yeah. 157 00:07:41,948 --> 00:07:43,491 [Shad] It just makes you wanna rap! 158 00:07:43,574 --> 00:07:45,284 -[laughs] -[Large Professor] Exactly. 159 00:07:47,745 --> 00:07:48,704 We got it. 160 00:07:48,788 --> 00:07:50,581 [Large Professor] See, that’s the thing about the SP, 161 00:07:50,665 --> 00:07:54,877 is that it has that real hip-hop kind of funky, smoky sound 162 00:07:55,086 --> 00:07:56,087 to the drums especially. 163 00:07:56,170 --> 00:07:58,172 [drumbeats] 164 00:07:59,632 --> 00:08:01,133 Thunderous. 165 00:08:01,217 --> 00:08:02,176 Yeah, no doubt. 166 00:08:02,301 --> 00:08:05,513 You know, the circuitry in there makes it sound scuffed like that, man. 167 00:08:05,596 --> 00:08:06,847 That real New York sound. 168 00:08:06,931 --> 00:08:07,932 -Yeah. -Yeah. 169 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:13,729 [Q-Tip] Large Professor actually showed me all the guts of the SP 1200. 170 00:08:14,105 --> 00:08:16,232 He would show me how to buzz through it. 171 00:08:16,315 --> 00:08:18,818 And I was like, "Wow, I didn’t know none of this shit." 172 00:08:18,901 --> 00:08:21,654 I came from a tradition of making pause tapes. 173 00:08:22,238 --> 00:08:24,699 If you heard of a piece, you'd have to record it, 174 00:08:24,949 --> 00:08:27,577 rewind it, get that piece back, record it. 175 00:08:27,743 --> 00:08:30,371 Rewind it, get that piece back, record it, rewind, get that... 176 00:08:30,454 --> 00:08:31,705 Like, for hours and hours. 177 00:08:32,164 --> 00:08:33,623 So, the SP 1200... 178 00:08:33,708 --> 00:08:36,043 once I saw that shit, I was like, "Fuck all that." 179 00:08:36,377 --> 00:08:37,545 [both laugh] 180 00:08:37,628 --> 00:08:40,131 ["They Reminisce Over You" by C.L. Smooth and Pete Rock] 181 00:08:46,178 --> 00:08:47,930 ♪ Yeah, so lovely ♪ 182 00:08:48,014 --> 00:08:50,683 [Pete Rock ] Back in the 90’s, I was married to the SP 1200, 183 00:08:50,766 --> 00:08:52,226 you know what I’m saying? 184 00:08:52,685 --> 00:08:54,770 You've got to get every element to the beat 185 00:08:54,979 --> 00:08:56,272 in 10.2 seconds. 186 00:08:56,397 --> 00:09:00,234 So, what I did was put the record on 45, 187 00:09:00,318 --> 00:09:01,736 and played it faster. 188 00:09:02,570 --> 00:09:04,530 Then slowed it down in here. 189 00:09:05,281 --> 00:09:06,782 Boom, that's it. 190 00:09:06,866 --> 00:09:08,200 I don’t care what’s new out. 191 00:09:08,534 --> 00:09:12,163 There’s no better machine in the music industry. 192 00:09:12,246 --> 00:09:14,790 ["They Reminisce Over You" by C.L. Smooth and Pete Rock] 193 00:09:17,877 --> 00:09:19,629 [DJ Premier] Large Professor taught me things 194 00:09:19,712 --> 00:09:21,547 that got me to another level. 195 00:09:21,631 --> 00:09:23,633 The way he would truncate beats, he was like... 196 00:09:23,758 --> 00:09:26,260 and he was doing it almost like doing a magic trick, 197 00:09:26,344 --> 00:09:27,845 and I would just stare at him like, 198 00:09:27,928 --> 00:09:29,263 "Damn, how do you do that?" 199 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,599 He taught me how to take it to that level. 200 00:09:32,475 --> 00:09:36,437 The SP 1200 had the littlest bit of sampling time, 201 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,524 but I like the limitation so that you’re forced to be creative 202 00:09:40,608 --> 00:09:41,901 with that little bit of time 203 00:09:41,984 --> 00:09:43,527 and still make a ill-ass beat. 204 00:09:44,987 --> 00:09:47,990 [Lord Finesse] It’s not just sampling loops in big chunks, 205 00:09:48,074 --> 00:09:50,618 it’s taking a note, maybe two notes. 206 00:09:50,701 --> 00:09:53,663 You add strings. You add horn hits. 207 00:09:53,954 --> 00:09:57,958 You add little nuances that people don't even pay attention to. 208 00:09:59,877 --> 00:10:02,380 [Busta Rhymes] At the time, Large Professor 209 00:10:02,463 --> 00:10:04,924 was starting to really kill shit as a producer. 210 00:10:05,007 --> 00:10:08,094 You know, Pete Rock was starting to really kill shit as a producer. 211 00:10:09,261 --> 00:10:12,348 Preme-o was really starting to kill shit as a producer. 212 00:10:13,849 --> 00:10:16,310 The climate shift that these dudes created through the music, 213 00:10:16,394 --> 00:10:17,478 it was incredible. 214 00:10:17,937 --> 00:10:19,438 And then they were all friends? 215 00:10:20,189 --> 00:10:21,023 [laughs] 216 00:10:21,107 --> 00:10:23,526 You really had the Avengers and the X-Men 217 00:10:24,193 --> 00:10:26,278 in real life, as producer crews. 218 00:10:26,362 --> 00:10:28,239 So that was just mind blowing to me. 219 00:10:28,322 --> 00:10:29,907 I thought that they had super powers. 220 00:10:30,658 --> 00:10:33,744 [siren wails, horns honk] 221 00:10:34,328 --> 00:10:36,664 [dog woofs, bus squeals and hisses] 222 00:10:36,747 --> 00:10:39,291 [Shad] With the soundscape of East Coast hip-hop being elevated 223 00:10:39,375 --> 00:10:41,585 by this elite group of producers, 224 00:10:41,669 --> 00:10:45,339 they now needed a new generation of street-hardened MCs to match it. 225 00:10:48,008 --> 00:10:49,844 And one MC would stand above them all. 226 00:10:51,387 --> 00:10:53,681 A raspy voiced teen from Queensbridge 227 00:10:53,764 --> 00:10:56,392 would define this era and captivate New York. 228 00:10:56,475 --> 00:10:59,937 ♪ Yeah Straight out the fuckin dungeons of rap ♪ 229 00:11:00,521 --> 00:11:02,356 ♪ Where fake niggaz don't make it back ♪ 230 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,650 ["N.Y. State of Mind" by Nas playing] 231 00:11:05,234 --> 00:11:07,069 Let me formally introduce my boy. 232 00:11:10,281 --> 00:11:13,242 Queensbridge in the motherfucking house! 233 00:11:13,325 --> 00:11:15,661 [Large Professor] Roll that tape. 234 00:11:15,745 --> 00:11:17,830 -[Nas] Queensbridge! -Turn that shit up. 235 00:11:17,913 --> 00:11:22,585 -♪ Hey, yo it’s like that y’all ♪ -♪ That y’all ♪ 236 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:25,588 [Shad] I want to ask you about Nas and how you started working with Nas. 237 00:11:25,671 --> 00:11:28,257 [Large Professor] Got together through common acquaintances. 238 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:30,718 It was like, "Yo, you got to hear this kid Nas, man. 239 00:11:30,801 --> 00:11:31,635 Nas." 240 00:11:31,719 --> 00:11:33,637 -[Shad] In the streets? -[Large Professor] Yeah, in the streets. 241 00:11:33,721 --> 00:11:34,805 NAS had a name ringing. 242 00:11:35,264 --> 00:11:37,850 And we just linked up one day and I liked his style, 243 00:11:37,933 --> 00:11:39,810 that he was out of the ordinary. 244 00:11:39,894 --> 00:11:42,646 He wouldn’t say the predictable. 245 00:11:43,147 --> 00:11:44,774 ♪ My troops roll up with a strange force ♪ 246 00:11:44,857 --> 00:11:47,359 ♪ I was trapped in a cage And let out by the main source ♪ 247 00:11:47,985 --> 00:11:49,695 ♪ Swimming in women like a lifeguard ♪ 248 00:11:49,779 --> 00:11:51,906 ♪ Put on a bulletproof, nigga I strike hard ♪ 249 00:11:51,989 --> 00:11:54,325 ♪ Kidnap the president's wife Without a plan ♪ 250 00:11:54,408 --> 00:11:56,452 ♪ And hanging niggas Like the Ku Klux Klan ♪ 251 00:11:56,827 --> 00:11:59,079 [Bobbito] Nas had the Live At The Barbeque verse. 252 00:11:59,163 --> 00:12:02,333 That was it. He wasn’t signed. He didn’t have a single. 253 00:12:02,416 --> 00:12:04,168 He didn’t have a deal. He just had one verse, 254 00:12:04,251 --> 00:12:06,879 and we were revering him like he was... 255 00:12:07,296 --> 00:12:10,466 the "La Di Da", you know, Rakim of the '90s. 256 00:12:10,549 --> 00:12:12,968 -Wow, just off of one verse. -Off of one verse. 257 00:12:13,052 --> 00:12:15,054 ♪ Street’s disciple, my raps are trifle ♪ 258 00:12:15,429 --> 00:12:17,515 ♪ I shoot slugs from my brain Just like a rifle ♪ 259 00:12:17,598 --> 00:12:20,059 ♪ Stampede the stage I leave the microphone split ♪ 260 00:12:20,184 --> 00:12:22,436 ♪ Play Mr Tuffy While I'm on some pretty tone shit ♪ 261 00:12:22,561 --> 00:12:24,522 ♪ Verbal assassin, my architect pleases ♪ 262 00:12:24,605 --> 00:12:27,107 ♪ When I was twelve, I went to hell for snuffing Jesus ♪ 263 00:12:27,691 --> 00:12:30,110 [Bobbito] That sort of gravely depth 264 00:12:30,194 --> 00:12:32,988 that his voice had even at that age, 265 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,282 it’s like one of those voices that would be like: 266 00:12:35,574 --> 00:12:36,909 "Come here, motherfucker." 267 00:12:36,992 --> 00:12:38,494 [both laugh] 268 00:12:38,577 --> 00:12:40,079 You’re like, "Oh, shit!" 269 00:12:40,162 --> 00:12:42,164 ♪ Science is dropped, my raps are toxic ♪ 270 00:12:42,248 --> 00:12:44,250 ♪ My voicebox locks and excels Like a rocket ♪ 271 00:12:44,458 --> 00:12:47,002 -♪ It's like that y'all ♪ -♪ That y'all! ♪ 272 00:12:47,419 --> 00:12:52,383 I was like, "Wow. Dude is ill, ill, ill." 273 00:12:52,466 --> 00:12:55,219 He was that energy and that voice 274 00:12:55,594 --> 00:12:58,347 that was just real hip-hop. 275 00:12:58,430 --> 00:12:59,473 When everybody's saying, 276 00:12:59,557 --> 00:13:01,934 "Keep it real," or "real hip-hop," 277 00:13:02,476 --> 00:13:06,146 you know, Nas is really the archetype of that whole premise. 278 00:13:06,689 --> 00:13:09,692 [Faith Newman] I heard about Nas the same way almost everybody did. 279 00:13:09,775 --> 00:13:12,653 I heard him on the Main Source album on Live At The Barbeque. 280 00:13:13,237 --> 00:13:15,656 I said to myself: "Who is this kid? 281 00:13:15,948 --> 00:13:17,533 Seriously, who is this kid 282 00:13:17,616 --> 00:13:19,618 who's making lyrics like 283 00:13:20,286 --> 00:13:22,830 'When I was 12, I went to hell for snuffing Jesus'? 284 00:13:22,913 --> 00:13:24,164 That’s the kid I want to meet." 285 00:13:24,957 --> 00:13:26,625 I went to Large Professor. 286 00:13:26,709 --> 00:13:29,920 And I said you have to get me with this kid Nasty Nas. 287 00:13:30,504 --> 00:13:32,965 I was just on a mission to sign him. 288 00:13:33,924 --> 00:13:35,342 ♪ Nasty Nas in your area ♪ 289 00:13:36,302 --> 00:13:37,970 ♪ About to cause mass hysteria ♪ 290 00:13:40,306 --> 00:13:42,808 [Shad] After amping New York streets with just one verse, 291 00:13:42,975 --> 00:13:45,311 Nas’ signing set up the most anticipated debut 292 00:13:45,394 --> 00:13:46,812 in hip-hop history, 293 00:13:47,062 --> 00:13:49,815 the cryptically titled Illmatic. 294 00:13:49,899 --> 00:13:52,902 ["Halftime" by Nas playing] 295 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:56,155 [Faith Newman] Originally, I thought 296 00:13:56,238 --> 00:13:58,657 that it would be a project for Large Professor to do, 297 00:13:58,741 --> 00:14:00,451 because that’s how projects got done then. 298 00:14:00,534 --> 00:14:02,453 One producer would do the whole thing. 299 00:14:02,536 --> 00:14:05,748 But Nas just had a wish list of people that he wanted to work with 300 00:14:05,956 --> 00:14:07,416 and they all wanted to work with him. 301 00:14:07,499 --> 00:14:09,543 -[reporter] Who’s working on the album? -Q-Tip, 302 00:14:10,294 --> 00:14:12,087 Pete Rock, Large Professor, 303 00:14:12,421 --> 00:14:14,340 my man L.E.S. from The Bridge, 304 00:14:15,507 --> 00:14:18,427 and my man DJ Premier, you know what I mean, 305 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:21,013 just collaborated to help a brother out. 306 00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:27,144 [Bobbito] Look, he had the most iconic producers of the entire decade. 307 00:14:27,478 --> 00:14:29,939 It’s like Larry Byrd, LeBron, 308 00:14:30,272 --> 00:14:32,316 Bill Russell and Tiny Archibald. 309 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:35,235 "Y'all just gotta run with my squad, all right?" "Yo, cool." 310 00:14:35,319 --> 00:14:38,572 So, to me, there’s nothing that compares in any era of hip-hop. 311 00:14:39,239 --> 00:14:42,076 That’s considered, you know, one of the great all-star casts 312 00:14:42,159 --> 00:14:44,620 of producers to be involved with one record. 313 00:14:44,828 --> 00:14:46,455 -That was monumental. -Absolutely. 314 00:14:46,538 --> 00:14:50,000 What was the vibe like with all the different producers together? 315 00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:52,836 [Large Professor] People always say, "Yo, was there a rivalry?" 316 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,796 It wasn’t. 317 00:14:53,963 --> 00:14:57,132 Beat-wise, you know, we was all just rooting for each other. 318 00:14:57,675 --> 00:15:00,594 I would see Prem and Nas coming back from the studio 319 00:15:00,678 --> 00:15:03,430 and I would say, "Yo, let me hear what it is." 320 00:15:03,847 --> 00:15:06,100 And he would let us hear and be like: "Ah, that’s crazy. 321 00:15:06,183 --> 00:15:07,059 That's gonna get 'em." 322 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:10,604 [DJ Premier] When I started working on "N.Y. State of Mind," 323 00:15:10,688 --> 00:15:13,899 -I had the drums and the... -[Shad] Okay. 324 00:15:14,984 --> 00:15:15,943 [DJ Premier] That’s all I had. 325 00:15:16,318 --> 00:15:18,570 But I was like, "That’s how it’s got to start." 326 00:15:18,654 --> 00:15:20,406 It’s got to start like it’s a lift off. 327 00:15:20,739 --> 00:15:22,491 Nas said, "Let’s just play records." 328 00:15:22,783 --> 00:15:24,159 So we just listened to records, 329 00:15:25,369 --> 00:15:27,371 And we was just smoking and drinking 330 00:15:27,454 --> 00:15:29,039 and thumbing around with the turntable. 331 00:15:30,290 --> 00:15:33,377 Once I hit that Joe Chambers piano part break down. 332 00:15:39,008 --> 00:15:40,884 We both looked up like, 333 00:15:40,968 --> 00:15:43,220 "Ooh, bring it back." 334 00:15:44,888 --> 00:15:48,225 ♪ Rappers I monkey flip 'em With the funky rhythm I be kicking ♪ 335 00:15:48,308 --> 00:15:50,728 ♪ Musician Inflicting composition of pain ♪ 336 00:15:50,811 --> 00:15:52,855 ♪ I'm like Scarface sniffing cocaine ♪ 337 00:15:52,938 --> 00:15:55,816 ♪ Holding an M-16 See with the pen I'm extreme ♪ 338 00:15:55,899 --> 00:15:58,193 ♪ Now, bullet holes left in my peepholes ♪ 339 00:15:58,277 --> 00:15:59,987 ♪ I'm suited up in street clothes ♪ 340 00:16:00,070 --> 00:16:01,864 ♪ Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes ♪ 341 00:16:02,781 --> 00:16:05,659 [Faith Newman] His motivation was to tell his stories. 342 00:16:05,909 --> 00:16:08,037 That’s what Illmatic is about. 343 00:16:08,287 --> 00:16:10,664 This young kid looking out his window. 344 00:16:11,290 --> 00:16:14,168 It’s like Shakespeare... but from Queensbridge. 345 00:16:15,085 --> 00:16:18,255 ♪ Nothing’s equivalent To New York State of Mind ♪ 346 00:16:19,173 --> 00:16:21,467 [Shad] Do you remember hearing Illmatic for the first time? 347 00:16:22,051 --> 00:16:23,010 I was like, "Fuck, man! 348 00:16:23,093 --> 00:16:25,220 How did he get to work with all those fucking dudes?" 349 00:16:25,304 --> 00:16:29,016 I think every MC in New York felt that way. 350 00:16:29,725 --> 00:16:31,560 But then when you heard the project 351 00:16:31,935 --> 00:16:35,439 you understood the specialness of this kid. 352 00:16:35,647 --> 00:16:37,024 For a first album, 353 00:16:37,357 --> 00:16:40,194 it seemed like very "elder statesman" 354 00:16:40,277 --> 00:16:41,779 at such a young age. 355 00:16:42,154 --> 00:16:44,573 And I think that’s what shocked the shit out of people. 356 00:16:44,782 --> 00:16:47,242 The fact that he was from Queens was even more like: 357 00:16:47,326 --> 00:16:49,828 “Yeah, motherfucker! 358 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:52,831 We’re running New York right now. We got this!” 359 00:16:52,915 --> 00:16:55,708 ♪ What's up kid? I know shit is rough doing your bid ♪ 360 00:16:55,918 --> 00:16:58,169 ♪ When the cops came You should've slid to my crib ♪ 361 00:16:58,253 --> 00:17:00,839 ♪ Fuck it black No time for looking back, it's done ♪ 362 00:17:01,090 --> 00:17:03,425 ♪ Plus congratulations You know you got a son ♪ 363 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:05,177 [Miss Info] Illmatic was so powerful. 364 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:08,429 Because it was as if you were dropped 365 00:17:08,514 --> 00:17:12,350 into the middle of a place you could never go yourself 366 00:17:12,434 --> 00:17:14,436 and you could just see things, but through 367 00:17:14,852 --> 00:17:17,481 the most clear, sharp lens. 368 00:17:17,773 --> 00:17:18,607 [Shad] Hmm. 369 00:17:18,690 --> 00:17:21,693 That’s how I felt the very first time I listened to the album. 370 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:25,072 Like, I put the album into a Walkman. 371 00:17:25,155 --> 00:17:27,741 I stood on a subway platform and 372 00:17:28,242 --> 00:17:30,160 missed probably 20 trains. 373 00:17:30,244 --> 00:17:33,080 ["One Love" by Nas and Q-Tip playing] 374 00:17:33,622 --> 00:17:36,125 I don't really remember getting home that day. 375 00:17:36,959 --> 00:17:40,295 ♪ So stay civilized, time flies Though incarcerated your mind (dies) ♪ 376 00:17:40,379 --> 00:17:43,549 ♪ I hate it when your moms cries It kinda wants to make me murder ♪ 377 00:17:43,632 --> 00:17:47,636 ♪ For real-a I've even got a mask And gloves to bust slugs for one love ♪ 378 00:17:47,719 --> 00:17:49,638 [Q-Tip] Illmatic is... 379 00:17:50,013 --> 00:17:52,933 right there with What’s Going On, 380 00:17:54,017 --> 00:17:55,060 Marvin Gaye. 381 00:17:55,644 --> 00:17:57,104 Like it’s that good. 382 00:17:57,771 --> 00:17:59,982 Like, it really is. It’s a masterpiece. 383 00:18:00,149 --> 00:18:02,943 I don’t really throw that word around and shit, 384 00:18:03,026 --> 00:18:05,237 but it’s a masterpiece. Yeah. 385 00:18:06,155 --> 00:18:07,906 ♪ One love, one love ♪ 386 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:09,324 ♪ One love ♪ 387 00:18:10,367 --> 00:18:13,662 ♪ One love, one love, one love ♪ 388 00:18:14,163 --> 00:18:17,958 [Shad] For a lot of hip-hop heads, Nas’ Illmatic remains the perfect album. 389 00:18:18,458 --> 00:18:21,587 One genius MC backed by the game's top producers. 390 00:18:22,546 --> 00:18:24,756 [seagull squawks, boat horn blares] 391 00:18:26,008 --> 00:18:28,302 [Shad] But in New York’s long forgotten borough of Staten Island, 392 00:18:28,844 --> 00:18:30,262 they flipped the formula. 393 00:18:34,683 --> 00:18:38,729 One genius producer backed by an army of lyrical assassins. 394 00:18:44,276 --> 00:18:47,029 [Shad] I want to start with Staten Island, growing up. 395 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:49,615 Um, what it was like coming from Staten Island? 396 00:18:49,698 --> 00:18:51,325 It was like the Forgotten Borough. 397 00:18:52,367 --> 00:18:54,536 You know, you got to take a ferry that, literally, 398 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:57,122 you’re going to be on the boat for 30 minutes. 399 00:18:57,623 --> 00:18:59,166 And we always felt like 400 00:18:59,499 --> 00:19:00,918 nobody cared about Staten Island. 401 00:19:01,001 --> 00:19:02,711 So we already had that mentality like, 402 00:19:02,794 --> 00:19:04,630 "You don’t give a fuck about my borough." 403 00:19:05,297 --> 00:19:10,385 We had that complex of not being respected in New York City. 404 00:19:11,428 --> 00:19:13,722 You know, the majority of us all grew up together. 405 00:19:13,805 --> 00:19:15,557 I grew up with RZA. 406 00:19:15,641 --> 00:19:17,601 We used to go to school together as kids. 407 00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:22,147 Genius, RZA and Dirty, they’re cousins. 408 00:19:22,898 --> 00:19:24,858 So, it was already there like that. 409 00:19:25,651 --> 00:19:27,819 Genius was like, he was the illest rapper 410 00:19:27,903 --> 00:19:29,446 and Dirt used to beatbox too. 411 00:19:29,529 --> 00:19:31,198 [beatboxing] 412 00:19:31,281 --> 00:19:34,451 ♪ Check it out. When i begin a rap, a hip-hop tune ♪ 413 00:19:34,534 --> 00:19:37,412 ♪ The crowd reacts immediately If not soon ♪ 414 00:19:37,496 --> 00:19:39,414 ♪ I’m black and proud, I move the crowd ♪ 415 00:19:39,498 --> 00:19:43,001 ♪ I rage from hell Yo, my lyrics solo rock the bell ♪ 416 00:19:43,794 --> 00:19:46,797 [Ghostface Killah] RZA was already making tapes up in Park Hill. 417 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,299 The Hill had the best MCs. 418 00:19:49,675 --> 00:19:53,136 That’s Method Man, Raekwon, they had U-God. 419 00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:54,304 They had Inspectah Deck. 420 00:19:54,388 --> 00:19:56,014 [Shad] So, you’re all aware of each other. 421 00:19:56,098 --> 00:19:57,641 [Ghostface Killah] We battled each other. 422 00:19:57,724 --> 00:19:59,851 Everybody did that at one time before. 423 00:20:01,019 --> 00:20:03,480 [Method Man] The first dude that I wrote my first rhyme with 424 00:20:03,563 --> 00:20:05,315 was Raekwon Da Chef… 425 00:20:06,191 --> 00:20:08,402 That day when Rae was like, "Yo, you smoke?" 426 00:20:08,485 --> 00:20:09,820 And I lied and said, "Yeah." 427 00:20:10,112 --> 00:20:11,154 [laughs] 428 00:20:11,238 --> 00:20:14,366 [Method Man laughs] And we went up in the staircase. 429 00:20:16,910 --> 00:20:19,579 It would be a session where it could start with two dudes. 430 00:20:19,871 --> 00:20:21,832 They start "cooking", meaning rhyming. 431 00:20:21,915 --> 00:20:23,083 And next thing you know 432 00:20:23,166 --> 00:20:25,502 those three guys would turn into like six, seven dudes... 433 00:20:26,169 --> 00:20:28,088 and these dudes blew my mind 434 00:20:28,171 --> 00:20:30,799 and after being in there with these dudes for a few weeks 435 00:20:30,882 --> 00:20:32,467 and listening to this shit, 436 00:20:33,427 --> 00:20:35,095 I wrote my first rhyme with Rae, 437 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:36,763 and that was it. 438 00:20:37,597 --> 00:20:40,058 I always wrote rhymes to impress these dudes 439 00:20:40,142 --> 00:20:41,184 in that staircase area, 440 00:20:41,268 --> 00:20:42,978 and I still write like that. 441 00:20:43,228 --> 00:20:44,730 I just want to impress my dudes. 442 00:20:44,813 --> 00:20:46,523 Fuck everybody else. 443 00:20:47,733 --> 00:20:49,026 [Raekwon] RZA had the idea. 444 00:20:49,109 --> 00:20:51,653 He was like, "Yo, I’m trying to do a record." 445 00:20:51,945 --> 00:20:53,822 I’m only calling specific dudes. 446 00:20:54,156 --> 00:20:57,534 RZA seen the special powers in each one of us 447 00:20:57,617 --> 00:20:59,661 to say, "Yo, you’re all fucking different." 448 00:20:59,745 --> 00:21:01,038 and I remember him just saying, 449 00:21:01,121 --> 00:21:02,664 "Yo, I’m going to book the studio, 450 00:21:02,789 --> 00:21:05,709 and we need 100 dollars from each individual 451 00:21:05,792 --> 00:21:08,003 to pay for the studio time." [laughs] 452 00:21:08,086 --> 00:21:09,629 So, we were like, "Damn, yo. 453 00:21:09,713 --> 00:21:11,465 Where the fuck can we get 100 dollars? 454 00:21:11,548 --> 00:21:13,717 What the fuck? I've got to put 100 dollars up? 455 00:21:13,967 --> 00:21:15,218 I was at my wits end. 456 00:21:15,302 --> 00:21:17,346 No place to go, selling drugs... 457 00:21:17,637 --> 00:21:19,473 That shit was getting to the point 458 00:21:19,556 --> 00:21:21,600 where motherfuckers was dying every fucking week. 459 00:21:22,392 --> 00:21:26,229 So, I’m on my way to the tree spot. RZA stopped me. 460 00:21:27,189 --> 00:21:28,899 And I remember him saying something about, 461 00:21:28,982 --> 00:21:30,692 "You know, fuck that street shit. 462 00:21:31,109 --> 00:21:32,778 Give me this much of your time..." 463 00:21:32,861 --> 00:21:34,946 I think it was a year, or some shit like that. 464 00:21:35,530 --> 00:21:37,699 "And if this shit don’t work out, 465 00:21:37,783 --> 00:21:39,868 you can go back to doing what you was doing." 466 00:21:40,535 --> 00:21:41,495 I was fucking sold. 467 00:21:41,995 --> 00:21:44,373 [Method Man] Next thing I know, dudes was in the studio. 468 00:21:44,456 --> 00:21:45,499 Rae, you ready? 469 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:49,044 Yo Deck, tell Rae to get his phones on and let’s do this. 470 00:21:49,461 --> 00:21:51,338 -[Rae] Yo. -Can you hear it now? 471 00:21:51,546 --> 00:21:52,756 I can hear it but turn it up. 472 00:21:53,632 --> 00:21:55,801 [Ghostface Killah] I was just glad to be n the team. 473 00:21:55,884 --> 00:21:57,886 The energy at that time and looking at my brothers, 474 00:21:57,969 --> 00:22:01,556 and knowing that "Damn, I’m surrounded by a team of superheroes right here." 475 00:22:01,973 --> 00:22:04,101 We come in like, "We’re gonna crush these motherfuckers." 476 00:22:04,184 --> 00:22:05,977 The Wu is the way. 477 00:22:06,061 --> 00:22:08,230 The Tang, that's the slang in there. 478 00:22:09,147 --> 00:22:10,649 It’s the sword style. 479 00:22:10,732 --> 00:22:11,942 They said it's sharp 480 00:22:12,317 --> 00:22:14,111 We'll make it to the next war. 481 00:22:14,194 --> 00:22:16,446 We're going to rock the fucking rap industry. 482 00:22:16,613 --> 00:22:18,740 We're going to fuck everybody up. 483 00:22:18,824 --> 00:22:20,325 So, just watch your step, kid, 484 00:22:20,409 --> 00:22:22,035 and protect your fucking neck. 485 00:22:23,203 --> 00:22:25,497 ♪ I smoke on the mic Like smokin' Joe Frazier ♪ 486 00:22:25,705 --> 00:22:28,083 ♪ The Hell-Raiser, Raisin' hell with the flavor ♪ 487 00:22:28,166 --> 00:22:30,335 ♪ Terrorize the jam Like troops in Pakistan ♪ 488 00:22:30,502 --> 00:22:33,046 ♪ Swingin' through your town Like your neighborhood Spider-Man ♪ 489 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:35,424 [Raekwon] On the record, Protect Ya Neck, 490 00:22:35,507 --> 00:22:37,551 the main thing was to make sure 491 00:22:37,634 --> 00:22:40,137 that we represent fucking Staten Island. 492 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:42,347 We was getting fed up with the fact 493 00:22:42,431 --> 00:22:44,808 of hearing Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx... 494 00:22:44,975 --> 00:22:49,146 They've got to know Staten Island is real live man. 495 00:22:49,396 --> 00:22:52,524 The borough's got to be fucking heard one way or another. 496 00:22:52,607 --> 00:22:54,901 ♪ Hit you with sixteen shots And more I got ♪ 497 00:22:54,985 --> 00:22:57,028 ♪ Going to war with the melting pot hot ♪ 498 00:22:57,154 --> 00:22:59,322 ♪It's the method man, for sure Mr. Meth ♪ 499 00:22:59,406 --> 00:23:01,408 ♪ Moving on your left, ah! ♪ 500 00:23:01,491 --> 00:23:04,744 ♪ And set it off, get it off, Let it off like a gat ♪ 501 00:23:04,828 --> 00:23:06,496 ♪I wanna break through, cock me back ♪ 502 00:23:07,205 --> 00:23:09,166 [Bonz Malone] RZA came to see me at Island, 503 00:23:09,249 --> 00:23:12,794 and was telling us: “Yeah, we got this group. It’s called Wu-Tang. 504 00:23:12,878 --> 00:23:16,006 We’re from Shaolin, Staten Island. We call it Shaolin,” 505 00:23:16,089 --> 00:23:19,301 and he played Protect Ya Neck and I’m like, 506 00:23:19,384 --> 00:23:22,554 "Nine dudes? [laughs] You've got to be crazy." 507 00:23:22,804 --> 00:23:24,222 Man, I laughed so hard. 508 00:23:24,306 --> 00:23:27,225 I took the tape out, I said, "Take this, man. 509 00:23:27,309 --> 00:23:29,311 Nobody’s going to understand this shit." 510 00:23:29,561 --> 00:23:32,647 [laughing] Yo... 511 00:23:32,731 --> 00:23:34,649 Yo... what a mistake that was. 512 00:23:37,777 --> 00:23:39,529 [Bobbito] December 1992... 513 00:23:39,613 --> 00:23:41,364 I’m up in the studio by myself, 514 00:23:41,448 --> 00:23:45,327 the premier hip-hop radio program of the world at the time. 515 00:23:45,911 --> 00:23:47,746 Five people knock on the studio door. 516 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:51,291 I’m thinking like: “How the F did they get into the studio?” 517 00:23:51,374 --> 00:23:53,043 The front door to the building was locked 518 00:23:53,126 --> 00:23:54,878 and the front door to the studio was locked. 519 00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:58,089 So that means they had to have gotten through two locked doors. 520 00:23:58,173 --> 00:24:00,383 They’re like, “Yo, Money, play this.” Trying to strong arm me. 521 00:24:00,467 --> 00:24:02,761 “Yo, yo, Bobbito. Play it right now, son.” 522 00:24:02,844 --> 00:24:05,931 I’m like… “Y'all gotta chill. 523 00:24:06,306 --> 00:24:08,391 I’m about to get kicked off the air for even having you all here. 524 00:24:08,475 --> 00:24:11,311 You all got to be out.” So, I play the record. 525 00:24:13,355 --> 00:24:14,481 Woo-ha! 526 00:24:14,564 --> 00:24:16,233 You know... Karate in the beginning. 527 00:24:16,316 --> 00:24:18,235 I’m like, "What the, what is a Wu-Tang?" 528 00:24:18,318 --> 00:24:19,611 What the fuck is a Wu-Tang? 529 00:24:20,862 --> 00:24:21,821 But it was cool because 530 00:24:21,905 --> 00:24:25,408 that record was as raw as you could ever think. 531 00:24:25,492 --> 00:24:26,993 And it was a hit. 532 00:24:27,285 --> 00:24:29,621 It wasn’t just a hit, It was a smash. 533 00:24:29,704 --> 00:24:31,748 ♪ Feelin' mad hostile, Ran the apostle ♪ 534 00:24:31,831 --> 00:24:34,334 ♪ Flowin' like Christ When I speaks the gospel ♪ 535 00:24:34,417 --> 00:24:36,795 ♪ Stroll with the holy roll Then attack the globe ♪ 536 00:24:36,878 --> 00:24:38,797 ♪ With the Buckus Style the Ruckus ♪ 537 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,217 [Mimi Valdes] Protect Ya Neck was like, a moment that like... 538 00:24:42,634 --> 00:24:44,261 time stopped in New York. 539 00:24:44,844 --> 00:24:46,888 You could not explain that record. 540 00:24:46,972 --> 00:24:48,223 You just have to hear it, 541 00:24:48,306 --> 00:24:51,017 and you're just like, "Wow, this is... different." 542 00:24:51,226 --> 00:24:55,063 [Mister Cee] It was just so grimy and just so raw. 543 00:24:55,188 --> 00:24:57,399 There’s no chorus. There’s no hook. 544 00:24:57,482 --> 00:24:58,650 There’s no, there’s just... 545 00:24:59,067 --> 00:25:00,277 "First things first man…" 546 00:25:00,402 --> 00:25:02,821 ♪ With the worst I'll be stickin' pins in your head ♪ 547 00:25:02,904 --> 00:25:04,739 ♪Like a fuckin’ nurse, I'll attack ♪ 548 00:25:04,823 --> 00:25:06,825 ♪ Any nigga who's slack in his mack ♪ 549 00:25:06,992 --> 00:25:08,994 ♪ Come fully packed With a fat rugged stack ♪ 550 00:25:09,077 --> 00:25:11,830 [Angie Martinez] I just remember being like, "There’s so many of them. 551 00:25:12,455 --> 00:25:13,540 What is this?" 552 00:25:14,583 --> 00:25:17,627 They just sounded like something new and exciting 553 00:25:17,711 --> 00:25:19,713 and hard and dark. 554 00:25:19,963 --> 00:25:22,424 ♪ To my crew with the sue ♪ 555 00:25:22,841 --> 00:25:24,634 [Steve Rifkind] I never felt energy in my life 556 00:25:24,718 --> 00:25:26,636 off a cassette that was dubbed, 557 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,597 you know, like three or four different times. 558 00:25:29,055 --> 00:25:31,016 And I remember just listening to it 559 00:25:31,099 --> 00:25:32,601 over and over and over again. 560 00:25:32,684 --> 00:25:35,520 If anybody is a true hip-hop fan, 561 00:25:35,812 --> 00:25:38,356 it’s going to feel this energy like there’s no tomorrow. 562 00:25:38,773 --> 00:25:40,609 [Jeff “Chairman” Mao] They just sounded hungry. 563 00:25:40,692 --> 00:25:42,485 And sonically, it’s unlike anything else. 564 00:25:42,569 --> 00:25:45,071 RZA’s producing records where the loop is off. 565 00:25:45,155 --> 00:25:46,990 It was kind of like all of these things 566 00:25:47,073 --> 00:25:49,284 that had mystique to them coming together. 567 00:25:49,367 --> 00:25:50,452 I know the sound. 568 00:25:50,535 --> 00:25:53,622 Sound travels at 1120 feet per second. 569 00:25:53,997 --> 00:25:57,709 I matched the sound. For my beats is foul. 570 00:25:58,001 --> 00:25:59,169 [man laughs] 571 00:25:59,252 --> 00:26:02,505 [mixed samples playing] 572 00:26:13,892 --> 00:26:15,769 [Shad] RZA’s production on that album, 573 00:26:15,852 --> 00:26:18,605 what was different about what he was bringing at that time? 574 00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:20,940 [Raekwon] He already had a certain sound. 575 00:26:21,024 --> 00:26:24,486 It was slow and dreary 576 00:26:24,569 --> 00:26:26,196 and he was able to do what he do 577 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,740 to make it sound new and fresh. 578 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,410 And all he needed was some guys to understand that sound 579 00:26:32,494 --> 00:26:35,080 and we all were able to relate. 580 00:26:38,416 --> 00:26:41,336 ♪ I grew up on the crime side, The New York Times side ♪ 581 00:26:41,419 --> 00:26:43,088 ♪ Stayin' alive was no jive ♪ 582 00:26:43,171 --> 00:26:46,007 ♪ Had secondhands, Mom's bounced on old man ♪ 583 00:26:46,091 --> 00:26:48,134 ♪ So then we moved to Shaolin ♪ 584 00:26:48,218 --> 00:26:50,720 ♪ A young youth Yo rockin' the gold tooth ♪ 585 00:26:50,804 --> 00:26:51,638 ♪ Yo goose ♪ 586 00:26:51,721 --> 00:26:54,099 ♪ Only way I be gettin' The g off was drug loot ♪ 587 00:26:54,182 --> 00:26:56,017 ♪ And let's start it like this, son ♪ 588 00:26:56,101 --> 00:26:58,019 ♪ Rollin' with this one and that one ♪ 589 00:26:58,103 --> 00:26:59,562 ♪ Pullin' out gats for fun ♪ 590 00:26:59,646 --> 00:27:02,649 ♪ But it was just a dream For the teen who was a fiend ♪ 591 00:27:02,732 --> 00:27:04,943 ♪ Started smokin' woolas at 16 ♪ 592 00:27:05,527 --> 00:27:09,322 [DJ Premier] 36 Chambers. Such and incredible record, man. 593 00:27:09,406 --> 00:27:12,867 RZA created a new era of sound for New York. 594 00:27:13,284 --> 00:27:16,830 Things would be out of key and just not the norm. 595 00:27:16,913 --> 00:27:19,624 Just dirt. Nothing’s clean. 596 00:27:20,917 --> 00:27:23,336 [Sophia Chang] He created this sound that said, 597 00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:24,796 This is my New York City." 598 00:27:24,879 --> 00:27:26,798 and I’m going to lift up the hood, 599 00:27:26,881 --> 00:27:29,884 and you get to see how your car really runs, 600 00:27:29,968 --> 00:27:32,554 and that shit is dirty and it’s smelly, 601 00:27:32,637 --> 00:27:34,639 and it’s hot and it’s dangerous. 602 00:27:35,306 --> 00:27:37,475 ♪ Cash rules everything around me ♪ 603 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,437 ♪ C.R.E.A.M., get the money Dollar dollar bill, y'all ♪ 604 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,148 ♪ It's been twenty-two long hard years I'm still strugglin' ♪ 605 00:27:43,231 --> 00:27:46,109 ♪ Survival got me buggin' But I'm alive on arrival ♪ 606 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,445 [Kid Capri] What made them so special 607 00:27:48,528 --> 00:27:50,572 was these different MCs with these different styles, 608 00:27:50,655 --> 00:27:52,657 that could rhyme on any type of beat and make it hot. 609 00:27:52,741 --> 00:27:54,242 And they were all skillful. 610 00:27:54,325 --> 00:27:56,703 All of them had their own individual style. 611 00:27:56,786 --> 00:27:58,705 You had Method’s flamboyant ass. 612 00:27:58,788 --> 00:28:01,040 Then you had Ol’ Dirty with his crazy lookin’ self. 613 00:28:01,666 --> 00:28:03,460 Everybody had an identity. 614 00:28:03,793 --> 00:28:07,255 That's why they were all able to do their own separate deals the way they did. 615 00:28:08,548 --> 00:28:10,800 [Bonz Malone] They signed as a group to Loud, 616 00:28:11,843 --> 00:28:15,722 and then they got individual deals at other labels. 617 00:28:16,222 --> 00:28:18,308 Man, that’s some cartel shit. 618 00:28:18,391 --> 00:28:20,602 You ain’t ever going to see that again. Never. 619 00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:23,813 ♪ Cash rules everything around me C.R.E.A.M. get the money ♪ 620 00:28:24,272 --> 00:28:26,816 [Ghostface Killah] There’s never gonna be nothing like what we did. 621 00:28:27,525 --> 00:28:30,028 Ain’t another nine-man team coming in. 622 00:28:31,154 --> 00:28:33,198 Ain’t nobody in rap like this W right here. 623 00:28:33,281 --> 00:28:35,825 Dirt always said "Yo, Wu-Tang is for the children. 624 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:37,243 It’s for the babies. 625 00:28:37,327 --> 00:28:39,913 This is for the human families of the planet Earth right here." 626 00:28:39,996 --> 00:28:42,582 ♪ Dollar, dollar bill y'all ♪ 627 00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:44,793 ♪ Yeah ♪ 628 00:28:47,295 --> 00:28:48,880 [car whooshes by] 629 00:28:52,217 --> 00:28:55,470 [Shad] The Wu and Nas were part of a larger wave of hardcore hip-hop 630 00:28:55,553 --> 00:28:57,263 that would dominate '90s New York. 631 00:28:58,807 --> 00:29:01,518 Alongside legendary crews like the Boot Camp Clik, 632 00:29:01,726 --> 00:29:05,814 Mobb Deep, Gang Starr Foundation and DITC, 633 00:29:05,897 --> 00:29:08,942 they formed the pantheon of New York’s so-called Boom Bap era. 634 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:12,278 But as lauded as these acts were, 635 00:29:12,612 --> 00:29:15,365 their popularity was mostly an East Coast phenomenon. 636 00:29:15,698 --> 00:29:18,785 New York needed something else to grab the nation’s attention. 637 00:29:19,953 --> 00:29:22,288 They needed something "big." 638 00:29:25,083 --> 00:29:28,086 ["Gimme the Loot" by The Notorious B.I.G. playing] 639 00:29:35,301 --> 00:29:37,387 [Shad] I want to start with when you first met B.I.G. 640 00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:39,305 -at like six or seven years old. -[Lil Cease] Yeah. 641 00:29:39,389 --> 00:29:41,599 -[Shad] What do you remember? -We grew up on the same block. 642 00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:43,852 I just remember him giving me money all the time, 643 00:29:43,935 --> 00:29:46,771 every time I used to walk to school and I had to walk past Fulton Street, 644 00:29:46,855 --> 00:29:48,857 he would be out there hustling, doing what he do. 645 00:29:48,940 --> 00:29:52,151 And he would just always, he’s always just took a liking to me 646 00:29:52,235 --> 00:29:54,612 Always like: “Yo, what’s up? What’s going on? You good?” 647 00:29:54,946 --> 00:29:57,115 He’d give me two or three dollars to buy some candy. 648 00:29:57,782 --> 00:30:00,869 Once I got old enough to go sit out on Fulton Street, 11, 12 years old, 649 00:30:00,952 --> 00:30:02,912 that's when I got more close to him, you know? 650 00:30:02,996 --> 00:30:04,455 We’d just sit outside, 651 00:30:04,539 --> 00:30:07,458 smoke weed, drink and we always had a box with us, a radio 652 00:30:07,542 --> 00:30:09,460 and we was always playing just albums. 653 00:30:09,878 --> 00:30:11,421 [Shad] Do you remember the first time you heard him rap? 654 00:30:11,504 --> 00:30:13,256 Yeah, we was at this club. 655 00:30:13,339 --> 00:30:16,009 We had this little spot called The Paul Robeson Theater out here. 656 00:30:16,593 --> 00:30:19,470 One day B.I.G. actually got on the mic and did a freestyle there. 657 00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:21,681 And like, you know, he did this one line 658 00:30:21,931 --> 00:30:24,767 where he said, “You think about battling me from where, 659 00:30:25,018 --> 00:30:26,728 Attica?" That's a jail out here. 660 00:30:26,811 --> 00:30:29,522 The whole crowd went crazy and jumping around. 661 00:30:29,606 --> 00:30:31,566 It was nuts. That's when I was like, "Okay... 662 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,152 B.I.G. is going to be something serious." Know what I mean? 663 00:30:34,235 --> 00:30:36,487 ♪ Yes, it's me, the B.I.G. ♪ 664 00:30:36,571 --> 00:30:38,948 ♪ Competition ripper ever since 13 ♪ 665 00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:41,242 ♪ Used to steal clothes I was considered a thief ♪ 666 00:30:41,326 --> 00:30:43,870 ♪ Until I started hustlin' On Fulton Street ♪ 667 00:30:43,953 --> 00:30:46,205 ♪ Makin' loot Knockin' boots on the regular ♪ 668 00:30:46,289 --> 00:30:48,583 ♪ Pass the microphone I'm the perfect competitor ♪ 669 00:30:48,666 --> 00:30:50,960 ♪ Jewels and all that My clothes is all that ♪ 670 00:30:51,044 --> 00:30:53,630 ♪ Chumps steppin' to me, That's where they took a fall at ♪ 671 00:30:55,506 --> 00:30:59,344 [Lil' Kim] The first time I met Biggie, it was on Fulton Street. 672 00:30:59,427 --> 00:31:00,595 I was coming home from work, 673 00:31:00,678 --> 00:31:04,057 I had on, you know, heels. 674 00:31:04,515 --> 00:31:06,684 I had on like a leather motorcycle jacket. 675 00:31:06,768 --> 00:31:08,728 He was like, “I’m fucking with you, shorty”. 676 00:31:08,978 --> 00:31:10,772 I was like, “Okay... 677 00:31:11,105 --> 00:31:13,024 Let’s roll Big Papa.” 678 00:31:13,107 --> 00:31:16,110 When I first heard Biggie rhyme, 679 00:31:16,194 --> 00:31:19,530 immediately I felt the energy coming from his whole body. 680 00:31:20,198 --> 00:31:22,075 It captivates you. 681 00:31:22,158 --> 00:31:24,410 ♪ And I love ya Cause you're a sweet bitch ♪ 682 00:31:24,535 --> 00:31:26,746 ♪ A crazy crab That might make my dick itch ♪ 683 00:31:26,871 --> 00:31:29,666 ♪ I flow looser than Luther Words ya get used ta ♪ 684 00:31:29,749 --> 00:31:31,459 ♪ B.I.G. is a born trooper ♪ 685 00:31:31,542 --> 00:31:34,420 ♪ Like ice cream I scoop ya My music you wanna get loose ta ♪ 686 00:31:34,504 --> 00:31:36,339 ♪ Stay pimp, and I'm not a booster ♪ 687 00:31:36,422 --> 00:31:38,675 ♪ So what'cha got to say? This mackin' word is bond ♪ 688 00:31:38,758 --> 00:31:41,344 ♪ There's no other assumption I got it going on ♪ 689 00:31:42,178 --> 00:31:44,847 [50 Grand] First time I met Big, I was on Bedford and Quincy. 690 00:31:44,931 --> 00:31:46,224 That’s where I hustled at. 691 00:31:46,307 --> 00:31:48,851 I met him when he came on my end of town. 692 00:31:49,102 --> 00:31:52,355 First thing he said was, "Yo, I know you know a lot of people. 693 00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:54,107 I want you to be my DJ." 694 00:31:54,190 --> 00:31:57,193 When I heard him spit, that was crazy. 695 00:31:58,027 --> 00:32:00,029 So, I took him to the basement. 696 00:32:00,321 --> 00:32:02,031 I had my equipment down there. 697 00:32:02,115 --> 00:32:03,992 -[Shad] Mm-hmm. -No fancy shit. 698 00:32:04,701 --> 00:32:07,954 We had the basement surrounded by Old English bottles. 699 00:32:09,497 --> 00:32:11,916 We cut four demos that same day. 700 00:32:12,792 --> 00:32:15,003 He had the beat. He had the hooks... 701 00:32:15,336 --> 00:32:16,295 and all that. 702 00:32:16,379 --> 00:32:19,757 -It was like it was all written. -Yes, he knew what he wanted. 703 00:32:19,841 --> 00:32:21,509 Went outside, let my friends hear it. 704 00:32:21,592 --> 00:32:23,302 Everybody bobbing their head to it. 705 00:32:23,386 --> 00:32:24,887 So I said: “I got something." 706 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:28,641 Me and Mister Cee, we go way back from high school. 707 00:32:28,808 --> 00:32:30,727 He was Big Daddy Kane’s DJ. 708 00:32:30,935 --> 00:32:31,978 I hunted Cee down. 709 00:32:32,061 --> 00:32:34,188 I said, "I got something you need to hear." 710 00:32:34,522 --> 00:32:36,524 50 Grand wanted me to hear this demo. 711 00:32:36,607 --> 00:32:39,027 Yo, I got this guy named B.I.G. from Fulton Street. 712 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:41,988 I said, "Yo, I’m going on tour with Kane. I can’t listen to it right now. 713 00:32:42,071 --> 00:32:44,866 When I come back, I’ll listen to the tape." 714 00:32:45,491 --> 00:32:47,618 The night that I came back from tour, 715 00:32:48,202 --> 00:32:50,163 50 Grand was in front of my house waiting for me. 716 00:32:51,330 --> 00:32:52,498 So, I listened to the tape. 717 00:32:52,582 --> 00:32:55,001 For me, it was like hearing Big Daddy Kane all over again. 718 00:32:55,084 --> 00:32:57,879 The cadence, the rhyme pattern, how Biggies was rapping. 719 00:32:58,004 --> 00:33:00,798 ♪ Microphone murder Mass mayhem maker ♪ 720 00:33:00,882 --> 00:33:03,009 ♪ B.I.G. is on the mic Called the undertaker ♪ 721 00:33:03,092 --> 00:33:05,470 ♪ Make an appointment. Schedule an interview ♪ 722 00:33:05,553 --> 00:33:07,680 ♪ Because you know What B.I.G. man’s about to do? 723 00:33:07,764 --> 00:33:10,141 ♪ 50 Gran' on the technic At the right peak ♪ 724 00:33:10,224 --> 00:33:12,226 ♪ Brothers wanna hear The words big man speak! ♪ 725 00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:14,854 ♪ The microphone I rip it The burner got the clip in ♪ 726 00:33:14,937 --> 00:33:16,981 -♪ Slammin MCs like Scottie Pippen ♪ -♪ Paper! ♪ 727 00:33:17,065 --> 00:33:19,108 ♪ Flippin on old gold Cold as the rhymes you stole ♪ 728 00:33:19,317 --> 00:33:21,736 I submitted that demo to Matty C 729 00:33:21,819 --> 00:33:24,655 who was running the Unsigned Hype 730 00:33:24,739 --> 00:33:26,282 with The Source magazine at the time. 731 00:33:26,532 --> 00:33:28,326 Matty listened to it and fell in love with it, 732 00:33:28,409 --> 00:33:30,870 and featured Biggie and 50 Grand in Source Magazine. 733 00:33:32,497 --> 00:33:35,083 Once he gave me the tape, I mean, I loved it. 734 00:33:35,249 --> 00:33:39,212 It gave me a similar chill, of course, 735 00:33:39,295 --> 00:33:40,671 that Big Daddy Kane did. 736 00:33:40,755 --> 00:33:42,590 It was even a bigger voice to me, you know, 737 00:33:42,673 --> 00:33:45,968 like KRS sized voice... 738 00:33:46,385 --> 00:33:48,096 Big Daddy Kane flow, 739 00:33:48,346 --> 00:33:50,890 and still, like, just this presence 740 00:33:51,224 --> 00:33:54,268 that... I mean I just kept playing it over and over. 741 00:33:56,479 --> 00:33:58,480 [Shad] B.I.G.’s shout out in The Source Magazine 742 00:33:58,564 --> 00:34:00,357 would catch the attention of hard hustling, 743 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,776 up and coming A&R. 744 00:34:01,859 --> 00:34:04,237 who was looking for the East Coast savior. 745 00:34:06,489 --> 00:34:09,199 Can you take me back to what motivated you to sign Biggie? 746 00:34:09,283 --> 00:34:13,703 This is coming off of really desperation, you know? 747 00:34:13,788 --> 00:34:14,997 I'd just had a child. 748 00:34:15,456 --> 00:34:17,333 I just got fired from Uptown 749 00:34:17,416 --> 00:34:19,252 and I wanted to start my own label. 750 00:34:19,335 --> 00:34:21,337 Things were very, very uncertain. 751 00:34:22,087 --> 00:34:24,090 I wanted to try to do something 752 00:34:24,172 --> 00:34:27,969 that was a reflection of our times, our culture and our community. 753 00:34:28,386 --> 00:34:32,515 Dre and them were doing their thing. The Chronic was the bar that was set, 754 00:34:32,598 --> 00:34:34,058 but we’re the mecca of hip-hop. 755 00:34:34,558 --> 00:34:36,393 I wanted to tell the Brooklyn story. 756 00:34:36,477 --> 00:34:37,687 To tell the New York story. 757 00:34:39,147 --> 00:34:41,482 [Cheo Coker] Puff tells him, "I've got your check right here. 758 00:34:41,565 --> 00:34:42,900 Come sign. Let’s do this." 759 00:34:42,984 --> 00:34:44,652 B.I.G. told me the story where 760 00:34:44,735 --> 00:34:47,738 he tells the guys in the house where they’ve been dealing drugs 761 00:34:48,072 --> 00:34:49,782 that, "All right, I’m, I’m out." 762 00:34:49,866 --> 00:34:51,450 He leaves that night, 763 00:34:51,617 --> 00:34:55,079 and the next morning, that whole house got raided by the cops. 764 00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:58,040 He said that after that, he was 100% committed to hip-hop 765 00:34:58,124 --> 00:34:59,500 and he left the street life behind. 766 00:35:02,170 --> 00:35:06,257 [Puff Daddy I knew that I had an artist that was really, really special, 767 00:35:06,632 --> 00:35:09,760 but he had this desperation combined with the hustle, 768 00:35:09,844 --> 00:35:14,098 combined with the brilliant words and artistry 769 00:35:14,182 --> 00:35:15,766 and the truth from the streets. 770 00:35:16,392 --> 00:35:18,019 And it was hard and direct. 771 00:35:18,603 --> 00:35:21,439 ♪ My man inf left a tec And a nine at my crib ♪ 772 00:35:21,689 --> 00:35:23,774 ♪ Turned himself in, he had to do a bid ♪ 773 00:35:23,858 --> 00:35:26,235 ♪ A one-to-three He be home the end of '93 ♪ 774 00:35:26,319 --> 00:35:28,613 ♪I'm ready to get this paper, G You with me? ♪ 775 00:35:28,696 --> 00:35:31,532 ♪ Motherfucking right My pocket's looking kind of tight ♪ 776 00:35:31,616 --> 00:35:33,326 [Lil' Kim] B.I.G. was a genius in the studio. 777 00:35:33,409 --> 00:35:35,786 I mean, I used to just love to watch him work. 778 00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:38,581 He was so vivid and colorful when he wrote his music. 779 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:42,043 Puffy would make B.I.G. rewrite verses. 780 00:35:42,126 --> 00:35:43,294 BIG would be like: “Oh, okay, 781 00:35:43,377 --> 00:35:46,422 Oh, that wasn’t hard enough for you? Oh, okay." [chuckles] 782 00:35:46,505 --> 00:35:48,216 Then he would give Puffy something so hard, 783 00:35:48,299 --> 00:35:52,011 Puffy would be like: “Dawg. We can’t say that.” 784 00:35:52,094 --> 00:35:53,679 [both laugh] 785 00:35:53,763 --> 00:35:56,015 ♪ And when I rock her and drop her I'm taking her door knockers ♪ 786 00:35:56,098 --> 00:35:58,559 ♪ And if she's resistant "Baka! Baka! Baka!" ♪ 787 00:35:58,643 --> 00:35:59,769 [Mister Cee] "Gimme The Loot" 788 00:35:59,852 --> 00:36:03,272 represented you know, what New York in the '90s was really about. 789 00:36:04,148 --> 00:36:06,984 Cats was on the corner, really waiting for you to come home 790 00:36:07,068 --> 00:36:08,319 to see if they wanted to get you. 791 00:36:08,402 --> 00:36:09,904 If you were looking right, you would get got. 792 00:36:09,987 --> 00:36:11,405 It’s real, you know? 793 00:36:11,489 --> 00:36:15,034 They was robbing babies' mothers for the "Number One Mom" pendant. [laughs] 794 00:36:15,117 --> 00:36:17,536 -♪ Gimme the loot, gimme the loot ♪ -♪ I'm a bad, bad ♪ 795 00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:20,122 -♪ Gimme the loot, gimme the loot ♪ -♪ I'm a bad, bad ♪ 796 00:36:20,206 --> 00:36:21,749 ♪ Gimme the loot, gimme the loot ♪ 797 00:36:23,125 --> 00:36:25,920 [Andre Harrell] It was raw. It was in your face. It was dangerous. 798 00:36:26,337 --> 00:36:30,132 B.I.G. came with the answer to the severe streets of LA, 799 00:36:30,258 --> 00:36:31,968 but New York style, Brooklyn style. 800 00:36:33,010 --> 00:36:36,180 The way Puff groomed B.I.G. was take a freestyle artist 801 00:36:36,514 --> 00:36:39,016 and to tell that artist, "You've got to write hooks." 802 00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:41,602 And then he didn’t just have B.I.G. street. 803 00:36:42,019 --> 00:36:44,021 Puff started using good R&B samples 804 00:36:44,105 --> 00:36:45,690 and made B.I.G. more commercial. 805 00:36:45,773 --> 00:36:49,235 ♪ It was all a dream I used to read Word Up Magazine ♪ 806 00:36:49,318 --> 00:36:51,737 ♪ Salt'n'Pepa and Heavy D Up in the limousine ♪ 807 00:36:51,821 --> 00:36:53,572 ♪ Hangin' pictures on my wall ♪ 808 00:36:53,864 --> 00:36:56,617 ♪ Every Saturday rap attack Mr. Magic, Marley Marl ♪ 809 00:36:56,701 --> 00:36:58,744 ♪ I let my tape rock 'til my tape pop ♪ 810 00:36:58,828 --> 00:37:01,706 ♪ Smokin' weed and bamboo, Sippin' on private stock ♪ 811 00:37:01,789 --> 00:37:04,834 ♪ Way back, when I had The red and black Lumberjack ♪ 812 00:37:04,917 --> 00:37:05,918 ♪ With the hat to match ♪ 813 00:37:06,002 --> 00:37:08,254 [Lord Finesse] That’s where the transition began. 814 00:37:08,963 --> 00:37:11,257 Biggie did it in a way where you wasn’t mad. 815 00:37:11,966 --> 00:37:14,302 You know, we hardcore hip-hop, 816 00:37:14,385 --> 00:37:16,470 "Yo, what the fuck with this commercial shit?" 817 00:37:16,554 --> 00:37:18,973 But he could do it and you would not be mad. 818 00:37:19,056 --> 00:37:20,766 You’d be like, "That shit is hot." 819 00:37:21,350 --> 00:37:26,105 ♪ 'Cause you're the only one I'll give you good and plenty ♪ 820 00:37:26,188 --> 00:37:28,357 ♪ Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis ♪ 821 00:37:28,441 --> 00:37:31,068 ♪ When I was dead broke Man, I couldn't picture this ♪ 822 00:37:31,152 --> 00:37:33,529 ♪ 50 inch screen Money green leather sofa ♪ 823 00:37:33,612 --> 00:37:35,948 ♪ Got two rides, A limousine with a chauffeur ♪ 824 00:37:36,032 --> 00:37:38,409 ♪ Phone bill about two G's flat ♪ 825 00:37:38,492 --> 00:37:40,578 ♪ No need to worry My accountant handles that ♪ 826 00:37:41,037 --> 00:37:42,997 ♪ And my whole crew is loungin' ♪ 827 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,083 ♪ Celebratin' every day No more public housin' ♪ 828 00:37:46,542 --> 00:37:49,503 [Lil' Cease] B.I.G. just really shifted the energy. 829 00:37:49,587 --> 00:37:51,047 You still have people doing their thing. 830 00:37:51,130 --> 00:37:53,132 Nas was killing with Illmatic, you know what I mean? 831 00:37:53,215 --> 00:37:56,469 We had Wu. We had artists that was really putting work in 832 00:37:56,552 --> 00:37:58,721 but no rapper had the guys and the girls. 833 00:37:58,804 --> 00:38:02,016 Either you were just straight Street, or you were just straight R&B, 834 00:38:02,099 --> 00:38:03,392 or you were just straight Soul. 835 00:38:03,476 --> 00:38:05,436 BIG was both and both loved him. 836 00:38:07,605 --> 00:38:10,941 ♪ First thing first I, Poppa, freaks all the honeys ♪ 837 00:38:11,025 --> 00:38:13,944 ♪ Dummies, playboy bunnies Those wanting money ♪ 838 00:38:14,028 --> 00:38:15,988 ♪ Those the ones I like 'Cause they don’t get Nathan ♪ 839 00:38:16,072 --> 00:38:19,241 ♪ But penetration Unless it smells like sanitation ♪ 840 00:38:19,325 --> 00:38:21,285 ♪ Garbage, I turn like doorknobs ♪ 841 00:38:21,369 --> 00:38:23,996 ♪ Heart throb never Black and ugly as ever ♪ 842 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,373 ♪ However, I stay... ♪ 843 00:38:25,456 --> 00:38:27,875 [Kid Capri] You got this big dude that ain’t super attractive, 844 00:38:27,958 --> 00:38:29,960 talking that fly shit out of his mouth. 845 00:38:30,544 --> 00:38:33,214 With Biggie, it was, "I’m big, black, ugly and fat." 846 00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:34,423 [laughs] 847 00:38:34,507 --> 00:38:37,551 But he was sexy to the women. Loved him. 848 00:38:37,635 --> 00:38:40,096 ♪ From the back I get deeper and deeper ♪ 849 00:38:40,179 --> 00:38:43,557 ♪ Help you reach the climax That your man can’t make ♪ 850 00:38:43,641 --> 00:38:45,434 ♪ Call him Tell him you’ll be home real late ♪ 851 00:38:45,518 --> 00:38:49,105 -♪ Now sing the break ♪ -♪ Baby, here I am ♪ 852 00:38:49,188 --> 00:38:51,607 ♪I got the good love, girl You didn’t know? ♪ 853 00:38:51,774 --> 00:38:54,360 ♪ All I need is one... ♪ 854 00:38:54,443 --> 00:38:56,695 [Shad] What was it like in Brooklyn when those records came out? 855 00:38:56,779 --> 00:38:58,823 We was... People was like, "What?" 856 00:38:58,906 --> 00:39:00,991 Dude, they never imagined him rapping 857 00:39:01,075 --> 00:39:04,286 over R&B songs, but was gangster. 858 00:39:04,703 --> 00:39:06,705 He would say something, I mean gangster. 859 00:39:08,416 --> 00:39:10,418 Once you put everything together, 860 00:39:10,793 --> 00:39:12,002 the look, the voice... 861 00:39:12,086 --> 00:39:13,504 It made perfect sense. 862 00:39:13,587 --> 00:39:16,799 And it went well together. It was, it was so dope. 863 00:39:17,425 --> 00:39:19,427 He made gangster rap look beautiful. 864 00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:21,554 ♪ As I laid down laws Like Allen Carpet ♪ 865 00:39:21,637 --> 00:39:24,473 ♪ Stop it If you think they gonna make profit ♪ 866 00:39:24,557 --> 00:39:27,226 ♪ Don’t see my ones Gon' see my guns, get it? ♪ 867 00:39:27,309 --> 00:39:29,895 ♪ Now tell your friends Poppa hit it Then split it ♪ 868 00:39:29,979 --> 00:39:32,982 ♪ In two as I flow With the junior M.A.F.I.A. ♪ 869 00:39:33,065 --> 00:39:34,942 ♪I don’t know what the hell Is stopping ya ♪ 870 00:39:35,025 --> 00:39:37,945 ♪ I’m clocking ya Versace shades watching ya ♪ 871 00:39:38,028 --> 00:39:40,156 ♪ Once ya grin I’m in, games begins ♪ 872 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,533 ♪ First I talk about how I dress in this ♪ 873 00:39:42,616 --> 00:39:45,369 ♪ Diamond necklaces, stretch Lexuses… ♪ 874 00:39:45,453 --> 00:39:47,663 [Cheo Coker] The importance of Ready to Die 875 00:39:47,746 --> 00:39:49,665 was that Biggie was able to 876 00:39:49,748 --> 00:39:51,792 basically make an East Coast gangster record. 877 00:39:52,168 --> 00:39:54,044 but make it in a way that was uniquely New York, 878 00:39:54,128 --> 00:39:55,254 that was uniquely Brooklyn. 879 00:39:55,337 --> 00:39:57,798 Can everybody here make some noise for B.I.G. 880 00:39:57,882 --> 00:39:59,258 for bringing it back to the East. 881 00:39:59,341 --> 00:40:00,551 [crowd cheering, whooping] 882 00:40:00,634 --> 00:40:02,094 Bringing it back to the East! 883 00:40:03,137 --> 00:40:04,680 This is a nigga from East Coast. 884 00:40:04,763 --> 00:40:07,308 He ain’t from the West Coast. He’s from the East Coast. 885 00:40:07,391 --> 00:40:09,977 Give it up for this nigga right here, straight from Brooklyn. 886 00:40:12,813 --> 00:40:14,315 [Puff Daddy] When Ready to Die dropped, 887 00:40:14,398 --> 00:40:16,609 it was something that really shook hip-hop. 888 00:40:16,692 --> 00:40:18,777 We knew we put out a classic, 889 00:40:18,861 --> 00:40:21,780 and we felt like we had New York on our backs. 890 00:40:22,156 --> 00:40:23,657 When you put on Ready to Die, 891 00:40:23,741 --> 00:40:25,493 you got transported to Brooklyn, 892 00:40:25,576 --> 00:40:27,244 just like when you put on The Chronic, 893 00:40:27,620 --> 00:40:30,206 you got transported into a lowrider in LA. 894 00:40:31,749 --> 00:40:34,084 We were globally big when this album dropped. 895 00:40:35,044 --> 00:40:37,046 Everything started being clear. 896 00:40:38,422 --> 00:40:40,466 The impossible was about to happen. 897 00:40:40,549 --> 00:40:42,760 [outro music playing] 79183

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